Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 671: Building Muscle While Training for Endurance, Learning to Love Healthy Food, Sacrificing Health for Business Success & MORE

Episode Date: December 27, 2017

Organifi Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the advice they wo...uld give to those whose palate doesn’t like healthy food options, their 2018 New Years goals, whether you should follow Gary Vee's advice about eating shit for 2 years before you hit success (and sacrificing some health) or if it is better to stick to trying to maintain health and “practice what you preach” for the longer run to success and how you to train cardiovascular endurance if you didn’t want to lose muscle mass. Christmas Recap (5:43) Snatch (14:08) Thrive Market pantry (16:14) Organifi Gold Juice (18:03) Gifts for their significant others (19:50) Adam’s Achilles tear (25:38) The Ex came over for Christmas (31:15) Quah question #1 – Can you provide advice to those whose palate doesn’t like healthy food options? (35:46) Create positive/negative associations with food (good/bad) Quah question #2 – 2018 New Year’s goals for the guys (49:45) Quah question #3 – Should you follow Gary Vee's advice about eating shit for 2 years before you hit success (and sacrificing some health) or if it is better to stick to trying to maintain health and “practice what you preach” for the longer run to success? (1:01:49) Quah question #4 – How you to train cardiovascular endurance, if you don’t want to lose muscle mass? (1:12:43) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Christmas in the United Kingdom Snatch (2000) Thrive Market One FREE month’s membership $20 off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Organifi Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off What Is Cacao Good For Density blankets Could Low Total and Free Testosterone Levels be risk factor for Achilles Tendon Ruptures in Males Brain Potentials Highlight Stronger Implicit Food Memory for Taste than Health and Context Associations Brain Evolution, the Determinants of Food Choice, and the Omnivore's Dilemma Ep 620-Chris Kresser - Mind Pump Media Eating Shit for 24 Months, Doing What You Love & Monetizing Your Strengths | #AskGaryVee 237 (YouTube) Adaptations of skeletal muscle to endurance exercise and their metabolic consequences People Mentioned: Brad Pitt Chris Kresser (@chriskresser)  Twitter Gary Vaynerchuk (@garyvee)  Twitter/Instagram Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more How can you go wrong with this offer? To take advantage of this offer go to www.thrivemarket.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this post Christmas episode... Oh yeah, Pranko! No! ...for the first 30 minutes during our intro, Adam Justin and myself have some interesting conversation. First we talk about Christmas.
Starting point is 00:00:27 What we got for Christmas, what we bought for Christmas, what we got our kids for Christmas, what Adam got for Christmas. It's a good conversation. Then we talk about Justin's climbing wall project. Oh, she is. He actually built a room for his kids for Christmas. I think I'm McDonald's playhouse. Makes me feel like less of a father.
Starting point is 00:00:44 I gotta get him strong, man. We talk a lot about snatch in this episode. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The movie, not the vagina. Yeah. Then we talk about, preferably. We talk about Thrive Market and Dr. Bronner's soap.
Starting point is 00:00:57 I hope I'm pronouncing that right. By the way, we are sponsored by Thrive Market. We have an incredible hookup set up with them. This is what you do. You go to thrivemarket.com forward slash Mind Pump. Who can you up? You will get one month free membership, $20 off your first three orders of $49 or more.
Starting point is 00:01:14 So that's like a $60 credit and free shipping. We also mentioned Organify Kekow and their gold drink. Kekow. We are also sponsored by Organify. If you go to OrganifyShikow and their gold drink. Kikow! We are also sponsored by Organify. If you go to OrganifyShop.com, enter the code MindPump for a tremendous discount. We talk about the density blanket. This is a weighted blanket for anxiety. Never tried one before.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I'm not a density. But it sounds interesting. We talk about Adam's unfortunate Achilles injury saving a baby from traffic. Try it. That lucky baby. Somebody had to do it. We talked about divorced parents working together
Starting point is 00:01:54 for the benefit of their kids. It's way more difficult than it sounds. I'm experiencing it right now. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, we talk about eating healthy and intuitively all the time. What kind of advice can we provide to someone who's palette simply doesn't like healthy foods?
Starting point is 00:02:11 This will motivate Doug to get our... Kicking in the dick. Our food book coming here, right? Our cookbook. Oh, a cookbook, yeah. I feel like everyone's screaming for it, man. I think so, you know. How can we get healthy food to taste better than cheez-its
Starting point is 00:02:23 and lucky charms next question was We all have goals for 2018 What are they how are we gonna accomplish them? Then we talk about Gary Vee. He's the social media Phenom motivational speaker guy. Sal loves to poke at it. We talked about him his methods how cool he is some of the stuff We don't like. Hey GaryVee, come on Mind Pump. Finally, final question.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Navy SEALs, military professionals, these guys are ripped, but they also do tons of endurance. And we talk all the time about how endurance training will make you lose muscle. What the fuck's going on? Are we full of shit? Are we pro-scientists? Yeah, are we pro-scientists?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Or are we, as we believe, the most intelligent people in fitness? Also, this episode, I believe. I think you're right. I believe this episode is dropping today, so here's what you're gonna do, because I know what's gonna happen. What's gonna happen?
Starting point is 00:03:19 Is there a deal right here, listen up. You're gonna have your New Year's party. You're gonna get hammered. You're gonna have a good time. You're gonna wake up the next day. And then you're gonna feel terrible about Year's party, you're gonna get hammered, you're gonna have a good time, you're gonna wake up the next day, and then you're gonna feel terrible about yourself. Because you missed something, you missed something, you missed the boat.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You're gonna miss something, but you're also gonna feel bad because, you know, you partied, you had a good time at Christmas, and you're gonna save yourself. You know what, 2018, I'm gonna get ripped, I'm gonna get healthy, I'm gonna get sexy, I'm gonna look good, I'm gonna do it right, then you're gonna walk into the gym,
Starting point is 00:03:45 and then you're gonna forget that you don't have a fucking plan. You have no idea what you're gonna do. Oh my God, where do I begin? This is what you do. You go to mindpumpmedia.com, you enroll in the Maps Super Bundle. You will literally have all of 2018 planned out for you with the Super Bundle.
Starting point is 00:04:01 You'll have what you need to do every single week. You'll know when you go to the gym, what exercises to do, how many reps, what the tempo looks like. You'll have what you need to do every single week. You'll know when you go to the gym, what exercises to do, how many reps, what the tempo looks like. You'll know what adaptations you're aiming for, whether it be mobility or strength or muscle or symmetry or aesthetics. You will have everything set up and planned out for you, including a correctional component because if you do this right and you train right for the whole year, your body will change the entire time. You will also encounter issues where you need to work on correcting muscle imbalances to prevent injury because what stops most people in the tracks when they get on this
Starting point is 00:04:34 fitness kick is an injury or pain. Now they can't go to the gym. Now they stop and forget it. Now they don't want to go back. Well, the MAP Superbundle also includes MAP Maps Prime, which is our correctional exercise component. Also, if you enroll before 2018, you'll get an offer for half off the forum, and when you get that, you're in our forum for life. That means you never have to enroll again. Now, in 2018, our forum will have an annual fee. So you can avoid the annual fee
Starting point is 00:05:01 by doing this right this second. Again, the place to enroll in the map Super Bowl and it'll take advantage of all of this is mindpumpmedia.com. And it's T-shirt time. T-shirt time. How many reviews this time, Doug? 13. That's a little low.
Starting point is 00:05:16 A lot of people eatin' ham and prime rib and whatever else is going down. Christmas turkey. Yeah, exactly. A bunch of turkeys. But we're giving out four shirts going to Jew bear. 118 Jordan, Coffin Jackie K 12, Sammy, June,
Starting point is 00:05:31 E, all of you are winners and the name I just read to iTunes at mindpunkmedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address and we'll get that right out to you. Winner winner chicken dinner. Pull up your mic and pull up your pants let's get podcasting Justin let's get physical let's get physical everybody let's go yeah listen oh shit man Mary mother fucking Christmas yeah Mary Christmas man Santa it's it's a it's a it's, another one in the books, man.
Starting point is 00:06:06 Right up. God, you realize how many Christmases you've seen? Seen like in our lifetime? Yeah. Yeah, it's happened. It's been a lot, man. It's been a lot, man. It's pretty easy to keep track of them.
Starting point is 00:06:16 It's, what do you mean? It's great. Yeah, I'm like, hmm, yeah. It's been a lot of Christmases, man. How was your Justin? How are the boys really excited with their, their seats? Yeah, you know, like, hmm, yeah. It's been a lot of Christmas, man. How was your Justin? How are the boys really excited with their set of gifts? Yeah, you know, like we did really well
Starting point is 00:06:28 as far as the gifts were concerned. Like I posted, well I posted that, that we kind of just decided to build like a whole jungle gym, dude. Oh yeah. Downstairs. Why are you trying to fucking make all the other dads look bad?
Starting point is 00:06:41 That's a bad idea. I didn't know he'd talk to us. Why is that like so out of the ordinary? That was an idea that I've been trying to do forever. You built, did you see the one on the Facebook where the kid did it up the stairs, all the way up the stairs? Yeah, I didn't go that crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:55 It was like, but that was pretty dope. So it's a whole room pretty, it's rad. Some people are really creative. So it's a whole room dedicated to rock, wall climbing. Yeah, well a corner of it. I mean, we're gonna kind of expand as we go, but like it's like the playroom, cause like, you know what I use it for originally
Starting point is 00:07:11 was mainly just storage and shit. So I'm like, I get rid of all this stuff, you know, like so that way they have a place where they can go and they're super stoked. They're in there like already like improving on like everything. It was crazy to watch. What did you put on the floor to like if they fall? Yeah, I have like these tiles like foam tiles.
Starting point is 00:07:29 So he's like, I put spikes. Yeah. He's like, my kid, I got some crack in the aisle. Fire. I put real lava. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's really cool, bro.
Starting point is 00:07:40 It gets stronger. Yeah. That is so cool, man. Yeah. I want to go in there and hang on shit. Yeah. I'm using it right away or what what totally yeah, and it was funny so great I was actually a little worried cuz we're coming back from Christmas It was actually before Christmas Eve, but like we're walking up the stairs cuz like it's at the bottom of my house And like you can kind of look into that room and he saw some stuff kind of hanging
Starting point is 00:08:03 He's like what's going on down there? And I was like, you try to sit down. You try to set up as a surprise? Yeah. Was it Santa? Yeah, I pulled it off. How did it? How the hell did you do that? Because I had my wife take them to the park.
Starting point is 00:08:17 I had like four hours to get all that like situated. So oh shit, I had been building the rock climbing wall of my dad at his shop and then installed it and then did all the um monkey bars and stuff. Oh so you guys you guys didn't do it on the actual well I guess you wouldn't do that on the drywall that would make no sense. You had to do a plywood. Yeah, you had to do plywood and then and then drilled in the found the studs. Yeah, okay. Yeah, same thing. That was a project, dude. It was a project.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I was like, serious dad project. Dude, now I'm sweating. Cause like, they were around the corner. And my wife's like, I can't keep them out anymore. Like, I have to come home like, oh shit. She's like, let me just clean up some stuff. I'm like, this is, this is, you know, like, I'll try to get it in last second.
Starting point is 00:09:03 So, was it part of their Christmas gift? Uh-huh. Oh, that's great. Was it from Santa or was it from you guys? That one was from from us. So Yeah, that was from us and then dude, it was kind of an interesting ordeal because I It was both good. So that was a great present and all that and then we got him a bunch of other cool stuff but one of the other things was we got him these scooters and like the razor ones, but it was like a nice one. And so like I'm scrambling to get all that together
Starting point is 00:09:36 and like I fucking broke one. Oh, did you try writing it? No, I was just trying to assemble. It's supposed to be like this pop assembly and I like, I open it and just went snap, and I snapped like the fork off of it. Oh, sure. And I felt like, so it was like good,
Starting point is 00:09:52 and then horrible. It actually put that into my shed and like didn't get that this year. I'm waiting for the new one to get like delivered, so that sucks, dude. How do you guys, and not when you have kids, like especially, do you guys do like one big gift and then a bunch of little gifts,
Starting point is 00:10:10 or is it like all medium get, like how do you guys decide like how you get your kids? So I didn't realize that it can be different from family to, because you know, for sure. You do your own thing, you know, every year. And I, I, for whatever reason, I, of course, everybody does it different, but I just didn't think that.
Starting point is 00:10:25 I thought it was the kind of the same. So my girlfriend. There's a standard Santa rule. Yeah, so my, so my girlfriend's, mom is English, she's from England, and my girlfriend lived in England for a while, and I guess the way they do it over there, at least I think, is when kids wake up,
Starting point is 00:10:39 there's a big sack that is filled with tons of gifts, and all the gifts are wrapped from Santa and there's lots of smaller gifts from Santa. So you wake up as a kid, you go downstairs, you open up the sack and it's like five or six or seven of these smaller, nice kind of gifts and wrap them. When I was a kid,
Starting point is 00:10:59 Santa gifts were not wrapped. Oh really? No, and what my mom used to do is take them out of the box and put them, because it looked more real. Oh, you know what's funny? That's actually what my parents did when I was little. There was always like a bike or a desk or there was something that was assembled
Starting point is 00:11:13 and already there, and it was not down. Yeah, maybe I'll be the scooter for a seat. Maybe a boat, maybe a boat on it or something, but never. Yeah, so that's what we do, and then it was only one gift. So when I was a kid I come downstairs, I'd get one big gift from Santa, whereas my girlfriend's family did a bunch of little gifts.
Starting point is 00:11:30 So that's kind of different. Well, we do the little gifts in the stocking too. So you'd like kind of like, you just spill out or whatever. But yeah, well that was all the little gifts with Santa and then that one thing. See, this will probably be the last year that my kids will get a Santa gift
Starting point is 00:11:44 because my daughter now is eight. So she's gonna figure it out. So is that mean you guys save a ton of money since that was the big gift that you guys don't have to do that anymore? Pretty much. You know, it's funny though. So I was thinking, so my son told me,
Starting point is 00:11:55 he's like, man, it goes, I want you to have more kids so I can keep getting a Santa gift and I sure are laughing. And I remember, so when I was a kid, I got a Santa gift till I was like 16 because I'm the oldest of four. So I'm like this teenager, you know, walking down the stairs, I'm like, oh a kid I got a Santa gift to I was like 16 because I'm the oldest of four So I'm like this teenager you know walking down the stairs. I'm like cool. I get Yeah, no, so you're like I'll play along with this bullshit. Yeah I'm not gonna reveal this
Starting point is 00:12:19 And then you guys like do you guys like actually like budget for each kid individually? So it's like fair or do you guys not even worry about that? Yeah, we kind of roughly have a budget, but not really. I mean, it's what they want. You know, sometimes what happens, especially when you have girlboy and they start getting to a certain age, there's this huge discrepancy in who wants things. Like maybe your daughter, the things that she wants,
Starting point is 00:12:41 or just not that expensive, but she really wants some of the new of your son who wants something super like a video, like a gaming console. These days are like four, $500 on the everything. You know, I'm lucky, my kids aren't too jealous of each other with stuff like that. I was like that, like my siblings would get things and I didn't have a problem.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Although I know a lot of kids that have issues, like it has to be the same, it has to be like, she got two things, so I want two things. Right, right. Now I know the kids are like that. That's why I was wondering if you guys had to police that or deal with that at all. A little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Yeah. There's a little bit of like, well, he got, only if it's like, like two guns or something like that where they can play with each other. You know, and like, things like that. Otherwise, yeah, it's just like, here you have this, you have this.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Do the Nerf gun game is like on another level these days So my little class is so much fun with that shit dude. Yeah, my cousin my little or my little nephew was opening up presents and The everyone got in these bad ass. They're like man, they did not have this level. Oh dude fully automatic shoots like 90 feet fucking Yeah, my cousin has one my cousin I'm not sure it is how it looks like the gun from predator like the cat Yeah, yeah, he got the same one do you hold it out your hip yeah, it's like Yeah, dude, it's legit got one of those and then he got like a pump shotgun one To the shoot it shoots one dark. Yeah shoots one. Oh, I want a shotgun that shoots like Yeah, dude they're cool man, that'd be pretty sick pretty sick right so I want to talk to you guys about snatch
Starting point is 00:14:07 snatch the movie Have you guys seen the reason that you guys excited? Where are we going dude? I've never seen that movie before What a yes, so I was me and my girl of you been right well we were hanging out like 1990 you were hanging out and We're like let's watch an older movie that we know people have said we should watch that we've never watched.
Starting point is 00:14:29 So we're, she's like, have you seen this? And I'm like, yeah, I'm like, oh, I don't know, have you seen it? So Snatch, that's actually really fun to do, do something like that. What a great movie. It's a great movie. That's amazing. That's one of those movies that I've actually seen a ton of times. I want to watch it again.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Yeah. For sure. And it's better each time because there's so many little things in that movie. You can't understand them. Right, it starts the life. You spend the first half just trying to listen to what Brad Pitt saying because you can't figure it out.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And you go back and there's like these little subtle jokes everywhere in the movie and you're like, oh, it's even better time to do that. So are there other, any other movies you can recommend that you guys think I should better? You know what you should? So I've never seen the big little mouse game. The next it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Oh, man. I'm gonna slap you in the neck. Another classic. That's like, I mean, my all-time favorite. Coming to my next time you're at my house, we'll go through my DVD collection and you show me. We'll do a white Russian for,
Starting point is 00:15:13 we'll watch it with you and we'll have a white Russian. Have you seen Arlington Road? No. Put that on your list for you in the girl. Okay. Tim Robbins, Arlington Road. Okay. And you feel like like fucking twisted movies
Starting point is 00:15:23 and like kind of like can't figure it out. Tim, you'll watch that movie. Okay. You like that yeah because we were on what was it what were we watching it on was it Netflix or might have been Netflix but we're going oh no no it was on my my direct TV or whatever and they had a section of critically acclaimed film so that's the section we're going through she's never seen not platoon what's the other one apocalypse nowocalypse now. So I'm not sure if I should show her that though. That's a disturbing movie, but it's good though. Yeah, my girl doesn't like those. Have you seen Apocalypse now?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Yeah, it's a classic. It is. The way that they shoot it. That hamburger hill and Platoon, they're all ones you gotta watch like one, but I only see one time, I've seen that I am a real... Like full metal jacket.
Starting point is 00:15:59 They're all full metal jacket, y'all. That one's disturbing. It is, but it's a good movie. Yeah, so I wanna find some more of these critically acclaimed Old films that I've never seen for whatever reason, you know, so we can watch it One of you guys take all the thrive market stuff away. Did you guys take that? Did you guys have the cacao? No, I haven't tried that's why I was wanting to know if you took it away. Oh bro the cacao's legit Yes, the organifi one. Yes. Oh
Starting point is 00:16:22 It's yes the organ if I want yes Yes, I'm a thrive market. No, no, no, no, no, oh you talk about the other one No, we had a box of all of our stuff I want to make like a little pantry or something because we're getting so much thrive market And I see in boxes all over if we can get like a little thing to organize it whether it be should cover is the doctor Broners did you know it's funny if you guys ever looked at like the doctor Broner soap that they saw in thrive market Yeah, have you actually read the label? It's, it's the, it's got, it's like all writing right? It's fucking weird. Yeah. It's like honestly, have you guys read? No, no, I haven't
Starting point is 00:16:54 read it. Let me just read a little excerpt. 12th, God bless the persecuted. They are, they alone are his chosen people. Those that did not suffer from the persecution remained short-sighted small Only those who united work hard to survive ice age persecution Evolved into human beings it goes on and on and on and on This is on the label on a bar a soap. Yes. Yes. Yes You know I was like what the fuck you know what you're talking about right and I love the soap too It's so weird you ever seen the soap the soap, I know you've seen it.
Starting point is 00:17:26 It's like, you'll get the soaps and they sell different sizes and it's like the label is all like writing and then they'll say like, Dr. Broners and it looks old. Do yourself a favor and read the label. I've never read the whole label. It's like I've never read the label either. It's just rantings of like, you know ideas.
Starting point is 00:17:41 You know when that would have come in handy? Pre-smart phone. I remember when you would take a shit and you had nothing in your memory. Yeah, yeah, something to read. Yeah, I think that's what he was going for. You'd read shampoo bottles. It's just like, rants about like the most random stuff
Starting point is 00:17:55 and yeah, like his philosophy and like, yeah, it's interesting. No, so I was talking to you guys about the cow. Cacao. From Organifi. Really good. Did we get the box in? The one we have the yellow, the gold. I haven't had the gold yet, I haven't had anything that.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Finally, I got one of the goals I went in, in snag ones for you guys. So, how is it? It's great. Oh, yeah, it's really good. Gold is, I've been telling you guys about gold, so, waitin' for it. So, the cool thing about cacao,
Starting point is 00:18:20 cacao's got some pretty awesome health properties, but it has something in it that's similar to caffeine I think Theo bromine am I saying it right? I think that's how you bromine. Yeah, I believe so It's similar to caffeine and when you combine it with caffeine You get this kind of additive stimulatory effect. So cacao in your coffee Great mix and of course a taste good, but this, the organophile one is just, it's fucking delicious. I know, everybody's, I've seen a bunch of people on our forum and I'm thung the Instagram, so that posts and all about it.
Starting point is 00:18:53 So it's really good. I was like, how many other people got this before we do? Yeah, it's Theobromine. I did say it right. Yes. I never fuck up. So the, so if I do, we delete it right now. The soap you got, you know, that's from Thrive Market, that's the soap.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Now did you get, was that part of Dubs unwrapping when he sends us gifts? No, I buy it too on my own. Like we load up our house with all that Dr. Broner's for like dish soap, for shower, gel soap. You've never seen this soap? Oh, I have seen it. So like your castille soap and all that.
Starting point is 00:19:24 I have seen that soap. This is soap and all that I have seen that So this is what I this is what we use at home for the most part and I've never read the label. Yeah, yeah Well, who's gonna read that? I know well that you know why cuz I was I was taking a shit and I just like I was like is right there and I started reading it. I was like oh my god like what have I not like read this before So weird you were taking it back a little bit, taking it going back to the old school. Totally. Were you even the label? Did you guys get stuff for the wives and girls?
Starting point is 00:19:49 Like, what do you guys do for Christmas? You guys do something traditional or do you guys do something different every year? Do gifts? Dude, this year I kind of screwed up too, because. No, what'd you do? Well, I bought her something she obviously wanted and then I always do something kind of like so I usually do like two gifts
Starting point is 00:20:06 So there's one that's like somewhat medium and then you know that she's expecting and then I'll do another one Then I just want to kind of throw her off. It's so I bought this this density blanket, which is like it's a cool It's a cool thing like you this is the way anti-exity yet and so You know she's she's been going through a lot. I think it's, it was one of those things that was an obvious choice for me. And so I bought it in, I guess what happened was like, it didn't, it didn't fully go through or something. I didn't get like a tracking number. Oh, that happened to me one year. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:20:40 I was expecting it. Like, stay up. They sent a confirmation. If you don't say yes to it,, you got that you confirm that the order is coming through through your email fast enough, they'll just cancel it. And they just cancel it. That's what I want to Christmas, dude. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 Fucked me, dude. I had some Christians coming from overseas to her and I thought it was going to be shown up any day any day. Yeah. I was still waiting on it. Big gift, dude. I was like, fuck. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I feel like such an asshole. So I'm going to have to make up for that. They explain a density blanket. I've never even heard of that before. It's a weighted, it's a heavy weighted blanket. It's like 15, 20 or 25 pounds. Yeah, I don't know, it's like, I don't know what kind of foam or like beads or whatever they fill it up with.
Starting point is 00:21:18 But. So when you have weight on you, like it will, it can calm you down. It can make you feel like you're being held or whatever. Similar to when you swaddle. When you swaddle. I'm sure that's what that feeling goes back to. It's actually statistically whether they've done studies
Starting point is 00:21:34 to show that it actually works for a lot of people. So they're blowing up. They're selling a shit ton of money. And they're really nice quality. And I don't know, I was recommended to this one one of my clients, because yeah, Courtney's been dealing with a lot of anxiety and stuff, so I was like,
Starting point is 00:21:47 this is a new or a brainer. It's relatively new. I haven't heard of it. Yeah, I haven't heard of it either. Who sells it over here? Where do you get them? It's called Density Blankets, I think. Straight up website by itself,
Starting point is 00:21:58 there's no like, this is then like bed bath and beyond, and go give a check. No, it's off the website. Yeah. How did you first hear about it? It was one of my clients like recommended it. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I read an article of it. I actually read an article on them a while ago and I wanna say psychology today and they talked about how they actually are effective. They actually work. I think the way they discovered it was people started self kind of helping themselves by putting like multiple blankets on.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So they have that weight, but yeah, it's actually supposed to work pretty well. It reminds me of the thunder vest for dogs. Yeah, it does. You know what I mean? It makes it so my dog is just having like a fitted t-shirt on them when we leave and go like somewhere for four or five hours or the day, they do better.
Starting point is 00:22:43 It's hilarious. Yeah. By keeping clothes on them, just having, they feel, they feel, they feel, yeah, they feel safer, more comfortable, whatever it is. But when they're no shirt on, no nothing, and we're gone for a liar, it's like almost guaranteed, they're gonna fuck some shit up.
Starting point is 00:22:55 That's so cute. Yeah, what did you, what about you Adam? What did you guys get? So, could you and I normally, you know, we kind of go back and forth, like some years, like if there's something, like a bunch of stuff that I really want to get her, I'll just get her gifts.
Starting point is 00:23:07 But normally we actually agree that we actually get whatever it is together and it's normally like a trip. So we normally book, so we, we booked a ski in, ski out, Tahoe trip to Squaw Valley in February. And that's where, I don't know if you guys have ever been in a ski and ski out and out, but it's really cool. Uh, where literally I can ski down from the slope, walk right up my steps into my into my little suite that I have there. Oh cool. Yeah, yeah. So we can ride for a couple hours. Super chill. Hang out and then just a cozy tub in our room and just kind of chill and have got and them go back out again. And so that's really really cool. Yeah, it is really cool.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, no, we didn't we don't we do the same thing. We don't get in each other really anything. We just talk about like doing something together. Yeah, I think that's more, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I also don't like the expecting of buying. I feel like it eliminates the magic, right? Well, I feel like Katrina and I for the most part throughout the year, because I get
Starting point is 00:24:04 a lot of stuff throughout the year. I'm definitely the guy who shows up randomly and just a new outfit for her or flowers or so I buy a lot of stuff for her throughout the year just to show her that without expecting it, right? I'm anti-holiday guy, like if it's just Valentine's Day, just because it's part day, just because that's what I mean. It's the expectation of the kind of thing. Yeah, I like to do things like that throughout the year.
Starting point is 00:24:23 And for the most part, you know, her and I both, if there's expectation of the kind of thing. I like to do things like that throughout the year. And for the most part, her and I both, if there's things that we really want, we normally buy, we normally get it for ourselves or each other. And so when Christmas time comes around, there's this pressure of like, I gotta think of something. It's like, well, why should we just try so hard
Starting point is 00:24:35 to think of something to spend money on for you to buy? And let's do something we both have wanted to do for a while. I'm like, hey, you know what? We're, last year I got our snowboard. So this year, I was like, well, let's book a trip where we can go ride and we can do all that. So that's what Courtney did for me, which was cool.
Starting point is 00:24:51 She booked us a trip to Seattle, I think probably around the same time. Yeah, the girls were in the cooots on that. So yeah, it'd be cool. My cousin's up there and like, she know it, like I haven't really hung out in the weekend. Yeah, okay, so you're going somewhere new somewhere you'll Seattle I guess I gotta do something I already started to look because I have always wanted to like go to concerts or like, you know
Starting point is 00:25:11 See some bands and stuff up there and like you know hang out and like see Seattle and and be there for more than like you know a couple hours So it's the first we it's like the first weekend in February. Yeah, something like that I'll tell I'll have Katrina send everything over to you and so you have the dates and all that. Yeah, she just come up where we're going. Go to talk with us. And do what? Well, you know, the snowboard, you can just hang out, you know. Fuck, I might not be snowboarding.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Who knows? Oh, dude. How's your ankle doing there, buddy? Yeah, how's your ankle, man? MRI is tomorrow. Did we tell the story yet on the podcast? No, we haven't. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:25:39 People have seen you hobbling on this. Right. It's a story. Yeah, what happened to your ankle, dude? That's not a big deal. I saved this baby and traffic. Yeah. You know, the car got my foot when I was...
Starting point is 00:25:49 It's adrenaline kicked in. Yeah, it's just a little bit of a car over here. You know what, as much pain as I am right now though, it's worth it. I mean, I feel like that kid will forever be grateful. Probably be the next president. Yeah. No, it's...
Starting point is 00:26:00 I tore my Achilles. I don't know how bad or what level yet. It's definitely bad. It's getting worse by the day And we're already over a week With the injury. I went saw a brink right afterwards and he was like, yeah, it's torn your fucked and I was like, well I know it's still intact though because I you know, I can still move my foot and everything so it's not my business a rupture Right, are you tour playing basketball? Yeah playing. And the shitty part, I really blame you. It's pretty much your fault.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I actually feel bad. You and I do feel bad. You and all your super nerd people that are fans of you on the show that didn't warn me. Like you know what, you fucker send me DMs like crazy. You always tell me what to do that why didn't someone give me a head up that low test austro and there's a correlation with Achilles tears.
Starting point is 00:26:41 Like I wish I would have known. I would have never been playing. It's just one of those things. You're looking out. I mean like all time low, I've been professing this on the show for like the last two months. It's true, it's true that there is a strong correlation between low testosterone and tendon rupture.
Starting point is 00:26:57 And I didn't even, specifically Achilles. I didn't even think of it. Like I didn't think of it. It's something I read once a long time ago so it was stored there. Or a reminder when I did it. And it just when you did it, when I didn't think of it. It's something I read once a long time ago, so it was stored there. Or a reminder when I did it. And it just when you did it, when you sent the text, then it like, you know, jared my memory and I was like,
Starting point is 00:27:11 oh shit. So then I sent you that article, that study, and then you saw it while whatever. Sorry. You know, what a weird injury. Like, you know, I've had ACL, MCL, I've had level three ankle sprains of bajillion times through playing ball.
Starting point is 00:27:27 First time ever injuring my Achilles and it was a really weird thing. Like, and I'm on game two of playing, we won the first game or playing the second game. And I have an a great game. I'm playing good. I'm finally starting to catch my win again. Rebound score.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Right after I scored, my guy starts taking off obviously down the court. I turn, take off to go with him. And all of a sudden I hear this loud pop. And it feels like someone took a baseball bat and just fucking crafted across my calf. And it hard enough to make me fall, you know, so I fall down. And I look back, I'm guarding this big, you know, they had me playing center at this game. So I'm playing guarding this big, huge, Simone guy. And I thought he's like stepped on it. As I was taking off, I thought he stepped on it. Isaac's up walking again. No, but it was not quite that big, but the big, big dude like that, right? So he, I look back and I'm angry. I'm like, what the fuck? Because it hurt right
Starting point is 00:28:21 away instantly hurt and it made me fall. and I look back and he's like, he throws his hands up. He's like, did I was nowhere near you? Nobody was around me. And that's when I, whenever in sports, like you get an injury where no one is around, you know some shit will happen. Yeah, it's normally something bad that happened, right? So I kind of, I grabbed my ankle, my calf and I'm like, oh fuck it hurts.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Did you cry? I didn't cry. Okay, okay. But I went to get up and. It's okay if you did. Yeah, you can cry though. No. It was close to that kind of pain by the time I got home.
Starting point is 00:28:52 It was obviously continue to get worse and worse and worse. When I first got up, I went to put weight on it and it felt like my foot just went through the court. There was nothing stopping my foot from going through the court. It felt really weird. And that was when it just kind of confirmed from me like, oh, this isn't good at all. And then I sat.
Starting point is 00:29:08 It's not a complete tear. No, no, it's not completely, or also would have wrapped up my calf, I would have seen it, right? So I, but sometimes those are the worst, dude. Like when I, when I tore my MCL, I completely explode. I fucking blew it completely. And it actually wasn't that bad. Like I was, after I was injured,
Starting point is 00:29:24 I was in basketball also. And I'm like walking up down the court. I'm like, I think I'm gonna go back in. But I felt weird because like something was missing. And so I was like, okay, I probably shouldn't and then find out that I tore my MCL, MIA CYL. Well, when this happened, there was no like put me back in coach. It was like the pain was like intensifying by the minute.
Starting point is 00:29:42 And I was like, oh God, this is getting worse. So I'm just just winsing how bad it was. Got home, put it up iced it whatever. And then next day I went and saw a brink and then brinked it the little confirmation on me that yeah, dude, you're fucked. Yeah. Well, Godspeed, man. Yeah, no, it'll be, you know, fuck, we'll figure out some content out of this. So, you know, people, I'm sure I'm at the first one to fuck their Achilles or ankles so they can rehab. I'm going to rehab myself. I'm not doing any fucking physical therapy or any bullshit like that. So I'll share my journey as I go through that. I just wish I would have known that about low
Starting point is 00:30:14 testosterone and Achilles because you're I mean, I'm just an asshole asking for it by doing that. I mean, if you're low, I'm the sport of one sport that stresses the Achilles. Right. Right. It's what it definitely is up there with the top sports that probably stressed you kill. He's more than anything else. And then being the lowest in my life of testosterone, just a recipe for disaster. If I would even known that, I wouldn't have been doing that too. So well, now you're now you're forced right? Right, right. So we'll do the whole rehab process. So make sure to try and document, share
Starting point is 00:30:41 that with people with that looks like for me. As of right now, it's a lot of just icing and alvining the yesterday having me and Justin get things for you I hate that Take advantage. We are we will help you don't encourage himself We will help you unless you want something we don't think you should have you know me We'll get a little bell. He's like, so I'll give me that diet coke over there and I come back and it's come butcher I don't want a fucking diet coke, I'm like, Christy buddy. I'm the middle man now.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Dude, I didn't tell you guys, so I'll give you piggyback rides. So for Christmas morning, I forgot to talk about this too, guys. Pretty crazy. So, my, you know, obviously, you know, me and my ex-wife have dual custody of the kids. So every year we alternate, who has the kids for Christmas. So this year was my year and my ex was having a tough time right around, first off she lost her mom years, you know, not that long ago, which is tough on the holidays.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Now she doesn't have the kids, her aunt moved away, so she's got no one kind of around. Oh wow. And dude, my girl invited her. Oh wow and Dude my girl Invited her. Oh shit. How did that go? You know what did she say yes? She did and it went very well. Wow It went she because she was grateful that she could come and watch my be there for my kids when my kids come downstairs That's awesome, bro, because that's them that's the first step of like if this is gonna work and things are
Starting point is 00:32:03 You she's gonna it will everybody's mature It's not Katrina Katrina's family. It's the first step of like, if this is gonna work and things are, she's gonna have to. It will, everybody's mature. It's not Katrina's family, it's the funniest thing ever. Or at least for it was funny for me because my family's the opposite. My family is, once we don't like somebody, we just stop speaking to them, everyone divides from each other, it's awkward as fuck. It's not good for the kids, dude.
Starting point is 00:32:16 So of course not. No, and so she was there and we're all eating breakfast and hanging out in my kids, see everybody's cool and it was an amazing Christmas because of that, to see that, to see that we can all. Now what was I, okay. Now was that weird for you at all though? First time of doing that kind of like having the wife
Starting point is 00:32:33 and the ex-wife and the girlfriend in that, really good room, I mean that's kind of the first time you did something like that where you guys are doing like a real family family. No, because nobody made it that way. You know what I mean? Nobody made it weird. Everybody acted cool.
Starting point is 00:32:48 Everybody was friendly. She brought Mimosas, you know, and my girlfriend made coffee, and we're enjoying our coffee. She ever boyfriend with her or no? No, no. Which I would have liked that even more. No, that would have been even better.
Starting point is 00:33:00 Because I would have loved to see, and her boyfriend doesn't live here. Her boyfriend lives in another state. But I would have come around for the holidays. No, she's actually over there now with the kids. Got it. But I would have loved for the kids to see everybody, because I feel like, and I'm not an expert on this,
Starting point is 00:33:14 but I feel like the biggest challenge when it comes to divorce with kids, I feel like there's two of them. One is that the kids feel like, you know, maybe one of their parents, or both of their parents aren't there for them like they used to be, or they lose a little bit of stability. And it's typically one, right?
Starting point is 00:33:33 Or I guess on average, it tends to be the man, where the dad kind of now all of a sudden becomes a weekend dad, so you don't see them like you used to. So for a kid, they lose that stability, which I'm very involved with my kid, so they don't have that. But then the other part of what I think is when they lose that stability, which I'm very involved with my kids, so they don't have that. But then the other part of what I think is when they see that their parents,
Starting point is 00:33:48 all of a sudden they hated each other before, now they really hate each other, and they've got this divide of these two lives, makes forces them to kind of choose. Yeah, or feel like it a little bit. Because remember your kids are always gonna identify with their parents because they're your parents, even if one of them shit you,
Starting point is 00:34:02 or whatever they're gonna identify with them. And so my kids seeing that all these adults in their life are working together to raise them. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a very good thing. No, I think it's a great thing. And the kids had a great time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:17 You know? I was really, it's probably. It's a win all the way around for them. It's like, you guys all get together and get along and you guys get, that's more gifts for them. That's a fun super win. Well, the respect that I have for my girlfriend went I mean just in the story respected the hell out of her but to be able to invite
Starting point is 00:34:34 You know your boyfriend's ex-wife to your house for your Christmas Well, it was clutch that she did it too. Mm-hmm because it's one thing if you do that And you're kind of like not really sure on like how she feels about it or But the fact that it was her idea and she did it means everything. Yeah, because she wasn't gonna come She wasn't gonna come and she thought it was really it was really nice. It was really cool. Kids enjoyed it. We enjoyed it So cool stuff. That is cool very cool. Doug could you bring on the sensitive bird police? Yeah, the birds been sensitive a lot I know what a wholus. We're gonna fucking come fucking come the new year bro We're rocking this shit up right now. He's gotta get some testosterone It's my fault. Come on bird
Starting point is 00:35:13 Something something crazy bring on the mother fucking quad This quad brought to you by organify For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organified fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance at the added edge. Try Organified, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from A-Bron 89. You talk about eating healthy and intuitively quite often
Starting point is 00:35:52 and how we should avoid processed foods. Can you provide advice to those of us whose palates don't like all the healthy food options you rave about? You know what, you can, so I like this question because people assume that they have a fixed mindset mentality when it comes to the foods that they enjoy. Right, right, right, that like it can't change. Yeah, like people will say, no, I don't like that.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Or I do like that. As if it's a fixed, so it's gonna be that way. Think about all the foods you like as a kid that you don't like as an adult and think of all the foods that you hate it as a fixed, so I was gonna be that way. Think about all the foods you liked as a kid that you don't like as an adult, and think of all the foods that you hated as a kid that you now like. I can pretty much guarantee you, dude, it's completely changed for me.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Dude, I can guarantee you won't find a single child or maybe rare that a kid likes black coffee or that a kid likes olives or blue cheese or spicy food beer, but then as an adult you develop a palette for enjoying these foods. The processed food market or the food manufacturers know how to get you to change associations with foods
Starting point is 00:37:01 so that you did start to develop a palette for them through those associations. So when you watch food commercials, you see you know people having fun if they're eating a particular food or when you go to the movies You have popcorn so you tend to crave popcorn or why do we want birthday cake at birthday parties and kind of know no other time really think about You know birthday cake and those types of things a lot of those are associations We've created and so we actually change our palette. Our palette isn't just affected by taste, it's also affected by texture, color, context, smell, our moods, and our associations with those foods. So you can change your palette quite a bit
Starting point is 00:37:40 through understanding these processes and through manipulating them, and we've all experiences, you know, ourselves. Yeah, I think it's important, though, to note that it's a process. Like, it's not... Yeah, totally. It's not like this, hey, try this,
Starting point is 00:37:53 see if you like it, and, you know, oh, you don't like it, oh, you know, force it down your throat, and then eventually you will like it. It's like, you know, so I remember, like, something that I just, we went to Katrina's family for Christmas, and of course, there's desserts, galore everywhere from cookies and pies, and it's that I know, which is
Starting point is 00:38:11 completely different, just maybe five years ago or a little more than that would not be like this. I gravitate towards the things that are really light and not sweet, or that were actually cooked, Katrina made these cookies without flour, and they're on the healthier side of cookies. I mean, there's, I don't think there's really healthy cookies but a better choice. And I actually enjoy those. Now, if you would ask me that 10 years ago,
Starting point is 00:38:35 I would think they'd taste bland and not sweet enough or whatever because I'm so accustomed to this overload of sugar that we have packed in all of our food. And so it's taken me years to change my palate by eliminating a lot of those foods in my diet. Now when I want things like that, I actually crave some of the healthier stuff. So, but that took years. It took years of, you know, winging myself off of things that I probably shouldn't be consuming on a regular basis,
Starting point is 00:39:01 introducing foods that were healthier choices and playing with the recipes too to find things that kind of, that make me enjoy it a little bit more and a little bit more. Yeah, and I think for me, you know, just changing and reframing a lot of my thought process around foods, like just having more of an open mind and, like, texture used to be a, like, a big flag for me, like if something had a weird texture or whatever, even looked funky, like there was no amy, not shit. And I was like, again, that's me saying that out loud. And in my head, I'm like, no amy, not shit.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And then just over the years, I've just been more like, well, you know, I've been surprised before and you don't give it a shot. And I just over and over repetition wise of me like trying to Check myself on that like trigger in my head like no like You know this this weird feeling like it all starts there like for me So once I started to do that then I'm at a restaurant. I'm eating like a eggplant or I'm eating like you know So some kind of a fish that I would never eat before or like, you know, Brussels sprouts or like just because of the way that, you know, they prepared it,
Starting point is 00:40:09 I was like, wow, I didn't expect that, you know. There's still, this is, by the way, this isn't like a theory, this is a hundred percent science, you're, you create associations with foods, your palate changes. Look, I'll give you an example right now, everybody can relate to. Think of a food that you like, you used to like to eat that got you really, really sick one time. You probably don't like it anymore. Your brain immediately creates an association
Starting point is 00:40:33 when you get really, really sick off of something. Like, I used to love, when I was a kid, I used to love chili with a lot of cheese in it. And one day, I ate chili with cheese in it, and I ate a lot of cheese in it. And one day I ate chili with cheese in it and I ate a lot of it and I got really sick and I threw up. And until that happened, now if I smell chili with a lot of cheese in it, it makes me want to vomit.
Starting point is 00:40:57 That's an association, it's a very strong one, but we can all relate to it. So there's some of your evidence right there. So here's some tips you can do for yourself that will help you make better associations with food. First and foremost, a tool you can use to resensitize yourself to taste or to clean the palate, if you will.
Starting point is 00:41:18 I know that terms use all the time when you, you know, with eating, but this does help. It's fasting. Fasting is a great way to start the process. I would say start with a 24 to 48 hour fast if you're trying to do this fast track way. Zong's your healthy, anyway. As long as you're healthy,
Starting point is 00:41:36 when you go to reintroduce yourself to foods, reintroduce yourself to healthy foods and you'll find that things like fruit and vegetables will actually start to taste better to you So that's one thing you could do the second thing you could do is start to make positive associations with healthy foods and make negative associations with unhealthy foods and the only way you can do that is by becoming aware of the way these foods The only way you can do that is by becoming aware of the way these foods affect you, becoming aware of the reactions you have with these foods. So if I have, let's say I'm really, really enjoy eating bread, but I want to start to kind of eliminate that from my diet, I need to start making negative associations with bread.
Starting point is 00:42:20 So once I eat the bread, I notice I get a little bloated. I start to get fatigued. Just watch what's with greens. Yeah, it doesn't make me feel good. You know, I start to learn more about it. When I eat this bread, I pay attention to those things. Like, man, I feel so bloated. Start making those associations and you'll find that you'll start craving less and less. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:39 With the positive, start creating the positive associations with the good foods. So I'm eating these vegetables, I'm eating these fruits, I'm eating these lean meats or whatever. I notice when I eat this way, I feel really good and remind yourself of how you feel. Remind yourself of your digestion. Why is my digestion so good? Oh, I ate that spinach earlier or ate that broccoli earlier
Starting point is 00:42:58 or I noticed my energy doesn't dip so quickly after I ate that steak in vegetables or whatever it is that you're noticing the positive associations from. And if you continue to remind yourself of these things, little by little, you start to find that you'll want the things that you have created positive associations with and you'll start to not want the things you have negative associations with. This is very, very powerful because most of us are so unaware of these associations when we eat foods,
Starting point is 00:43:25 unless it's a strong association like getting sick, like the one I said earlier, that the only association that we connect to food is taste. So we go through our lives and all we associate with food is how good it tastes, in which case we've only created positive associations with these bad foods. Of course, we feed a cupcake, and all you think about as a taste, all you're thinking about is this great flavor that I get from this cupcake. So I only have this positive association.
Starting point is 00:43:53 And all these foods that are processed are one upping each other. It's like, they're designed to camera that. Yeah, when you look at the most popular ice cream cupcake stores and all this stuff, it's like, so much fucking sugar instead of that they're packing in there. And that reason why people love it,
Starting point is 00:44:09 it's cause it's like a new level. It's like, oh, I was just eating these plain old cookies before, but man, if you haven't had those mothers, those things are fucking next level. And it's just all they're doing is they're pumping more and more sugar in there. And it's just, and that's what we, when we reference it like a drug.
Starting point is 00:44:23 And once you kind of recognize it as that, then you can start to kind of unpack it and then look for ways. And I think Sal, you're right with connecting. Now, it also helps to to know the way someone's eating is how this is a tough question because, you know, I have clients that struggle with not eating vegetables. I have clients that struggle with, and I keep referencing sugar, like that eat tons of sugar. You know, I have clients that just don't get enough healthy fat. So it really depends what, where you're lacking, and then what, you know, a food addictions that you have on how I advise you to eventually move this into eating.
Starting point is 00:44:56 But I think what Sal was saying is a great... And there's a mentality that's around it too. I've been there. Look, I've had a plate of food that I thought I was supposed to eat that was, quote, unquote, healthy, and I sit down in front of this food. And I thought my whole motivation, my whole desire to eat this food is, I know I'm trying to get lean or I'm trying to build muscle.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So I'm not even allowing myself the space to learn how to enjoy these foods. It's all about, oh, I gotta eat my cup of broccoli, you know, cram it down my mouth. And because, and I did it because I have so much discipline, I was, you know, fucking dogged about it. I was dogmatic about it. But at some point, you're gonna end up, you know, falling off the wagon or whatever. And I did.
Starting point is 00:45:39 I would go through periods of eating what I was supposed to through pure discipline and determination. And then I go off of it. Versus looking at these foods that you think are healthy, going into it and giving yourself the space to try to enjoy them. So now I'm eating this food. And instead of saying I have to eat this, I'm saying I'm choosing to eat this because it's good for me. Let me, let me like focus on the taste of it and see what I can get out of this what I could pull out of it
Starting point is 00:46:06 So I did this recently with wine. I Don't I'd never like the taste of wine. Just didn't enjoy it. I didn't know why people enjoyed it and my girlfriend Told me hey, why don't you apply what you do with food to see if you can start to give yourself space because I hadn't realized But I had decided I just didn't like wine like I've've made up my decision, fixed mindset, not gonna like it. And she said, you know, why don't you drink it and apply what you've said with food and trying to provide yourself some space to see if you can enjoy it.
Starting point is 00:46:34 You know, go open-minded. And so I did. And I started sipping on it. And I started breaking down the taste and little at a time, by the way. Because if I had too much, it would have been overwhelming. And I actually believe it or not, started enjoying wine a little at a time, by the way, because if I had too much, it would have been overwhelming. And I actually believe it or not started enjoying wine a little bit. This is, you can do this with food.
Starting point is 00:46:50 It's fucking, it's frip, but it's not this new breakthrough thing that I invented. Like I said, food, advertisers have known this for decades. They just do this for you. You don't even realize it. Every commercial, every time you see a store or you look at the boxes cereal, the way they present it, how the grocery store puts things together,
Starting point is 00:47:09 they're doing that for you. It's all part of the process. If you unpack it and do it for yourself, you may find yourself in a position where, I'll tell you what, I never have to tell somebody to eat healthy if they enjoy the food that they're eating and it's healthy. You're no longer dieting or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:26 You just enjoy doing it. It takes a while to get there though. It does. And I think the first step is just becoming aware. That's why I said, knowing what this person is already addicted to or what they lack, like that helps too. And that's the first step for you.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So before you worry about, you know, oh, how do I find a way to like these foods? It's like, well, first you need to become aware of like, what are you probably over-consuming? Because I'm pretty sure you're like everybody else, which we all have these tendencies of that we lean towards of foods that aren't great choices that you're probably over-consuming,
Starting point is 00:47:58 and then where are you lacking? So I heard about these new, I don't know, anything other than what I was talking about with a friend of mine. So I don't know what the names of these diets are, whatever, but there's just, there are these diets now that are coming out that are focused on the palate. And what I mean by that is they encourage people to eat. They're not allowed to use seasoning. They're not allowed to dress up food. They have to eat very bland. but they're also told that they can eat as much as they want.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Now, we know that if you do that, you're not gonna eat that much, because you start to get palate fatigue. Chris Cresser talked about this on our podcast. Right. I think that's a very smart approach because it could change your palate to the point where you do, then when you go
Starting point is 00:48:42 and you start to season healthy food, now it's like, oh shit, this is so good, just because I put a little basic seasoning on it. You know, kind of interesting stuff to think. Well, I went through that when I was competing because when you're competing at one point, you eventually take out everything and you're eating boiled fucking chicken
Starting point is 00:48:56 and weird shit like that. And it's like, once I came out of that, my palate was reset on another level. I had never experienced in my 36 years of my life like Literally, I'll never forget biting into that first apple after I done that and an apple had never tasted like that before My entire life and Apple's just kind of like whatever, you know, even the best apples that everyone would rave about It's like for me it doesn't really because I was so Over over consuming sugar for so long
Starting point is 00:49:22 It wasn't like pulled all that shit out and then cleared out, cleaned my pallet out. Then I went out, tried an apple, it felt like I was biting into candy, dude. It was crazy. Next up is RC Day. Adam mentioned some of his goals for 2018 on a recent episode. What is the New Year's goals for the rest of the boys? Fuck, mine might be changing. Yeah, well, yours was what basketball? Basketball and stuff. He was part of that, you know, fucking that really, that's a rough one for me too.
Starting point is 00:49:49 That's why this was like a, this injury was a very depressing one because I had already kind of set my 2018 like, these were two things that are important to me, which don't get me wrong. They're still there. Like that That's so the goal is to rehab and be back to my normal self, but it's going to be a fucking process now, where it was like I was already on my way, so that's a little bummer for me. How about you Justin, you have any goals? Yeah, mainly musically driven, so I mean, I kind of started that with getting an amp again in an electric guitar and starting to read music again on the piano.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I'll go over to my parents house every now and then play the piano with my mom. And just like getting in that mindset for me has been really fun and it's something that I've always enjoyed and it's a different, it's a different operating system. You know, like your brain, it's just interesting to me that I start to think differently and I start to see things a little bit differently.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And I don't know, man, I have a problem. If you guys are doing something, I wanna do something a little bit different. So this is one of my things. I wanna get a little more artistic and express that a little bit more in that direction going into next year. And then as far as fitness is concerned,
Starting point is 00:51:06 just really more health-driven fitness goals for me. So I really wanna tackle this. And I've put somewhat of a dent as far as a formula to help really tackle this acid reflux and get this under control, and even watching the what's the grains. Oh, what's with wheat? Or what's with wheat is out of it.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Have you guys avoided it since then? Or you know, you got the holidays probably? Yeah, so like, yeah, we were all on this kick to do that. And then like, we had to like check ourselves, be like, okay, you know, let's be slow. Yeah, let's do this right. And so, but yeah, that, because I mean, there was a little excerpt in there from, I think it was Mark's system he was talking about, like the correlation there, you know, even with acid reflux and greens.
Starting point is 00:51:50 And so, I mean, I just really want to like get myself super healthy because that's affected acid erosion of my teeth. Like, grinding, like my teeth have been fucked up. And I have like a plan for that to fix my teeth. I got a guy that said he's willing to help me with that. So yeah, man, I mean, it's really like longevity based goals for me and for next year and just like really trying to get into my optimal state of health and then like get back into pouring into pressing, you know, my fitness
Starting point is 00:52:23 and moving on that a little harder. Awesome. I didn't think I had a goal, but now that we're talking about it, I guess I do, because I talked to you guys about this through text. I want to say on Christmas or Christmas Eve. This is kind of a mind-pump goal, but I'm making one, this personal one as well, is I'm really going to try it, because now we have a platform, we have a podcast that reaches millions of people, whatever. I really want to reach out more so, and we kind of started doing this at the end of this
Starting point is 00:52:56 year, to non-fitness individuals and people that are in areas that we are passionate about ourselves. And I've already done that. I've already contacted a few people and there are areas of science that I'm very passionate about. There's areas of political commentary and economics that I'm very passionate about, current events. And I'm gonna make it a goal now in 2018
Starting point is 00:53:22 to reach out to people who I think are interesting and fascinating that I think our audience will appreciate. Part of it's for selfish reasons. I myself have, there's people that I've always wanted to meet and talk to and now I can say, hey, I have a podcast, you know, which is all these people you want to come on my show. But I want to reach out to people, have nothing to do with fitness and just have incredible conversations with them and build relationships with them
Starting point is 00:53:50 and just see what happens. I don't know how we're gonna position it, we position it as like bonus episodes or whatever, but I think it would be really cool. Cause I know the three of us have very different interests. And I think it would be really cool to meet and talk to people in different, because there's a lot of fascinating stuff out there.
Starting point is 00:54:08 It doesn't have to get too deep, but there's a lot of fascinating stuff out there. And I've noticed so much growth just from meeting people in our space through the podcast. I can't imagine what that's going to look like when I now feel like I can reach out. Side of fitness. You know, it's awesome about that is not only do you grow but our audience grows as well because now everybody needs to be challenged as far as their thought process and you know, I love that I love that I'd be in that mentality and like bringing entrepreneurs in for me like business-wise and I'm interested in that are doing something completely different than us,
Starting point is 00:54:45 but we could all learn from these people in their experiences. So I'm all for that, man, that'll be awesome. Yeah, because I'm looking, initially, I'm probably gonna try to talk to people that I like, but then I think I'm gonna reach out to people that I don't, that I disagree with. Now, I'm not gonna bring somebody on who's, or at least I hope not, gonna bring someone on some asshole, but I wanna bring people onto that I completely disagree with. Now, I'm not gonna bring somebody on who's, or at least I hope not,
Starting point is 00:55:05 gonna bring someone on some asshole, but I wanna bring people onto that I completely disagree with and have discussions with on the podcast. I think it would be a great challenge for us as hosts and for the audience as well, but I think it'll be a lot of fun. No, you know where I stand on that,
Starting point is 00:55:23 I think I'm excited. I've been wanting us to do that for a while. We're so different. As much as we are similar in fitness, there's so many other topics that each of us are going home and reading and studying or into or geeking out on it. It's like, I think it's slowly introducing some of that
Starting point is 00:55:38 into the show. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a healthy thing. And I eventually, I think one day the show will be more segmented where you know, like on Tuesdays, you get this type of information, Wednesdays, you get kind of this. And I think that's, this is the first step in that direction is starting to involve, evolve and involve guests that aren't completely related to just health and fitness. So I think there's so much, I think there's so much more to having a healthy
Starting point is 00:56:03 life than just working on it and macro. Thank you. You know, there's your mental health and understanding the world that we live in and there's other topics that feed the soul man. And that's, I think, so important for you to be a well-rounded, healthy individual and just talking about the right way to lift weights and eat food all the time.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Like, I'll go fucking insane if that was what our show was. Like that's not the project. Not redundant at all. No, that's not the project that I'm, I mean, I remember how much it was, but it was good. That was good for me to see when we first started like this, you know, be, you know, this bodybuilder guy. Like I was so the bodybuilder guy, the bro on the show and had to be that,
Starting point is 00:56:43 that person when we first started. And it's just, it is what it is, but it reminded me so much of like, no, it's not, I don't identify with that. I don't want to just only talk about that and do that. That's an aspect that's a part of my life. And I'm very proud of it. It was a fun time. And I have a lot to say about it, but I've a lot to say about a bunch of shit, you know what
Starting point is 00:57:02 I'm saying. So it's exciting to see us do that. I'm going to continue to go the direction with the rehab on my foot and still get myself back. Because getting back to what we're saying right here is about being healthy. There's other aspects of life that will contribute to that. Snowboarding and basketball are two things that one, feed my soul and make me very happy. I mean nothing reminds me of being in flow state more than when I'm flying down a mountain Or when I'm playing basketball and I don't need to be at any extreme levels
Starting point is 00:57:35 I mean I was a really good snowboarder and I was really good at basketball But I don't need to be playing at that level. It's still get the the health benefits and so I'm gonna continue to do To pursue that and get in that kind of shape because those, and I also, that's what connects me to my childhood friends who are like family to me. So as we've gotten older and people've gotten married and got their houses in different towns,
Starting point is 00:57:59 we've grown apart from each other. And I recognize what a better human I am when I make sure that I stay connected to those that love me and that have been with me for a very long time. And easily we've all become very disconnected from that. And there's a few things that draw us all together and snowboarding and ball and things like that. It's sports. It sounds silly, but I've made an effort and I will make an effort this year of getting back to like watching basketball and football on a pretty regular basis.
Starting point is 00:58:27 It's play for you, dude. We don't play enough. All of a sudden, exercise became like work. Yeah. You know what I mean? How many kids play? They don't go work out. I mean, lifting weights for me is play, really is.
Starting point is 00:58:42 I really enjoy doing it. Yeah. But if you like doing something else, this goes, this goes for you, if you're listening right now, we talk all the time about ideal workout programs and programming and all this that and the other, but at the end of the day, I didn't get into ship for you. If you hate it and you don't do it, if you enjoy doing something else and you're moving and you're playing, like just do that. Well, I think, you know, I think everybody at one point should go through some sort of a structure to learn,
Starting point is 00:59:06 like to get the understanding of what good biomechanics looks like, what a good program looks like, how you should be eating for yourself and becoming in tune with that. But once you get there, I mean, the ultimate evolution is in tutivating and intuitive training. You understand what is best for your body, how you should be eating, how you should be working out and training, and then you incorporate the things that you love and your passion about. And that goes for both the eating side of it and the exercise part of it. Absolutely. And you know, if we understand that the mind and your emotions and your body, it's all the same, it's all one, then you understand that going to the gym and working out your body, which is good for the body,
Starting point is 00:59:46 but sitting there and fucking hating it with your mind and your emotions, makes that way less better for you. It just does. So I'm in the gym and I'm fucking hating what I'm doing, even though it's good for my body, it's not really good for me versus I go hiking or I go play basketball or I go swimming and it's good for my body. Maybe not as good as structured exercise, but it's still good for my body, but it's also good for my mind and my emotional state. Well now it's really fucking good for me. So keep that in mind.
Starting point is 01:00:19 Like if you go and you work out and you're hating every second of your workout, you are actually not doing something that's really super good for you or as good as of your workout, you are actually not doing something that's really super good for you or as good as it could be for you, because you're doing something, how good could it be for you if you're in it and you're fucking hating it the whole time? You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:00:35 And that doesn't mean it doesn't need to be tough, because there are plenty of things that you do that are challenging that you also enjoy. You know, playing basketball and snowboarding, it ain't easy, I'm sure you're breathing hard, I'm sure you're challenging yourself, but you're loving it the entire time. So it makes a massive, massive difference,
Starting point is 01:00:51 and it's a very important message to communicate to people because we get so stuck in on the exercise sucks, mentality, and I'm grinding in this, that, and the other, where you're missing out on the benefits, you're missing out on the benefits of enjoying what you're doing. And that's a lot, there's a lot of benefit there. Next question is from Mikey V Fitness. Gary V. preaches about eating shit for two years before you hit success.
Starting point is 01:01:15 As a young trainer, do I go full on with this approach and sacrifice some of my health? Or do I stick to trying to maintain healthy and practice what I preach for the longer run to success? You know what I don't like about his message sometimes, which is a common one. I know you're not a big fan of him. Well, here's why I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of the way he communicates. I think he's a very effective communicator.
Starting point is 01:01:38 I think he's a very intelligent guy. You know, where he came from, obviously, it's the son of immigrants. And so I respect the hell out of him. His message is a very common one you see with these motivational speakers. And it's a glamorous one. And what I mean by that is,
Starting point is 01:01:56 if you see someone that is successful and doing very well, and when you talk to them, they tell you about how awesome it is, how easy it's been for them. It's flowed this entire time. And yeah, I work long, but I enjoy what I do and I'm having a lot of fun. You kind of don't like that.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Like I wanna hear about how bad it sucks for you. And the grind that you put it through. And I wanna hear all that shit because that makes it better. It sounds better to me. You know what I'm saying? Like nobody wants to see somebody that's rip, muscular, fit, and wants to hear them talk about how it's easy for them
Starting point is 01:02:29 because they enjoy the process. They want to hear about how shitty it is and how much it sucks. And there's a little bit of, like, our ego's in particular like pain. We like to identify with pain. We like to identify with something that sucks. Now, that doesn't mean that you don't have to,
Starting point is 01:02:44 that there are sacrifices that are made when you're pushing yourself in an extreme level. Like if you're trying to get a, you know, a six year degree in four years, you're gonna have to sacrifice time. You're gonna put a lot more effort and, you know, work into it. But this mentality, this martyrship mentality
Starting point is 01:03:02 where in order for you to be successful at something, you have to fucking hate your life, I don't buy that. I think it happens sometimes, but I don't buy that. I don't think that's necessary. I think it's just a common popular thing to sell. And you see this with a lot of these. Well, I'm going to take the defending Gary V here because there is some truth in my opinion to, you know, when you first start off
Starting point is 01:03:29 having this attitude that I'm gonna eat shit for two years and I'm okay with that. Like I'm okay with knowing that I'm just getting started on this venture or, I mean, just, I mean, I had that mentality when we started this one. Mind you, love what I do, the process has been amazing. It's not, but in my head, I told myself that I'm not gonna see any return. I had that mentality when we started this one mind you love what I do the process has been amazing this net But in my head I told myself that I'm not gonna see any return
Starting point is 01:03:49 I'm gonna be talking I'm gonna be on this Instagram posting things four times a day every single day Hoping to God that it takes off and explodes but knowing damn well It probably won't and I will have to out grind it. I will have to grind for some time before I see any momentum. So there is some truth to me to say that, you know, when you first start a new venture, no matter what that venture is, that you're gonna eat shit. Now, I don't think it needs to be an either or.
Starting point is 01:04:18 I don't think it needs to be this, you know, should I listen to Gary Vee and eat shit for two years, let myself go and just be so grindined and not be healthy and live your brand. Let me tell you, I started off as a trainer and I still live my brand, but I fucking worked seven days a week and eight shit
Starting point is 01:04:35 for a year, but I still worked out too. That was still part of that process of eating shit of I'm getting up early to train or doing what I need to do to stay fit, to represent my brand myself as a trainer shit of, I'm getting up early to train or doing what I need to do to stay fit, to represent my brand myself as a trainer being fit, meanwhile while I'm trying to grow and build this business. So, to me, I think there's, and I think that message, why Gary Vee, I think,
Starting point is 01:04:57 is exploding, is it resonates with so many young, the younger generation coming up, I hate to say millennials, we always pick on them. But it's true, a lot, there's this entitlement thing that we have right now in the last 10, 15 years, where people think that, oh, just because I went to school or did this, that I should also fall into that. And I think that's a lot of his message is like, listen, kid, you're only 25, you're only 26, you're gonna fucking eat shit for a while, you're gonna work hard.
Starting point is 01:05:22 That's all part of the learning and growing curve and process. And so I do believe there's a little truth this. I also agree with Sal that I know some of these guys glorify the grind a little more than what reality is and we don't talk about, like you don't hear him sharing his relationship with his spouse or his kids or his family, like how much that's probably suffered and does everybody in his family with his spouse or his kids or his family, like how much that's probably suffered
Starting point is 01:05:46 and does everybody in his family and his friends immediately, like those people really love him and does he get quality time with those people? Like we don't know that, I don't know that for sure. I could speculate what I think on somebody who's... You know what it is, it's the, okay, so we've all been there and grinded before. We've all grinded very hard, but I've always loved it.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Right. Do you see what I'm saying? I mean, that was the point I was thinking the whole time. It's like, for me, it's always been about, if this is something that I'm super passionate about and I am in love with where this direction is going and what I know, the potential for it is so great, like, I'm willing to do more and put more in. And that just, that just requires more grinding
Starting point is 01:06:32 to get it up and running. And that's just part of the process. I don't look at that as a martyrdom of like, ah, fuck, I have to do it. I enjoy, you know, putting my time in. And then when I don't, when I realize it's just punishment, right? Like, I've been in situations like that, where I will do this, and I'm just basically punishing myself for a couple of years. Yeah, that's the thing. They're like, I gotta get away from this.
Starting point is 01:06:56 This is not a fucking healthy thing for me. Like, even if it does pay off, it's gonna destroy me. And so, being able to kind of discern at the beginning, whether or not this is, you know, the one that you're ultimately passionate about and you see it flourishing as far as like something, you know, you being like excited and being in the healthy mindset, but you know, it's going to take a lot of work versus like, no, I'm just doing this because I have to and it's what I have to fucking do. Yeah, it's like someone saying like,
Starting point is 01:07:25 you know, we use fitness because obviously we talk a lot about fitness. You have to grind and work hard and it's got to be a lot of pain and sweat in order to be fit. So now you've got someone who's working out, they're doing everything wrong, they don't know it, but they think they're doing everything right,
Starting point is 01:07:41 but they're doing everything wrong. But they've identified with the pain and the sweat and the fucking, everything has to suck first part. So they just keep doing the same shit. They just keep going in their sweat and their ass off, working hard, getting very little return, but because they think that that's what it takes, that they've identified with the hard part,
Starting point is 01:07:59 that now they're not able to be objective, they're not able to step out and say, this sucks and I hate it. Well, then they're attracting, then they're just attracting the shit. If you identify with it and I just don't, I think that's a very valid point to make that, you know, there are people that see messages like that
Starting point is 01:08:19 and then they're like seeking out like being miserable and then it turns into this competition, like who's suffering the most, like we see that in competing and stuff like that. And it's like, well, no, there's a smart approach that's not just about suffering. So, I mean, I'm on both sides of this, right? So I think, I think Gary V. loves the grind. I don't think for a second he's doing what he's doing.
Starting point is 01:08:38 He's thinking, this fucking sucks. I hate this. I think he fucking loves it. So he preaches it, but he doesn't realize that he fucking loves it. You know preaches it, but he doesn't realize that he fucking loves it. You know, I've met lots of very, he's got the people who bust their ass and he loves it. He talks about that.
Starting point is 01:08:51 And I think he talks a lot about that, like that he loves what he's doing. He doesn't pose himself as a martyr or that it just is rough and whatever. I think that he knows who he's speaking to. He's speaking to this younger generation that in my opinion needs to hear that shit. I think that the more people that have worked for me
Starting point is 01:09:11 that are in their early 20s need to hear this message that listen dude, you are gonna eat shit for a while. You are gonna grind for a while. It is gonna be tough. You are gonna have to go the extra mile to try and stay fit and be successful at the same time right now. That's the part of the eating shit. It's not each shit and so you're going to sacrifice, you know, being in shape or things
Starting point is 01:09:31 like that. It's like, no, that's part of what eating shit means. Means that you are going to have to work harder than the guy or the girl next to you who's been doing this for 15, 20 years. That gets the easy leads that everybody knows who they are already. There are everyone's given them a leg up because they've proven themselves for to, you've got to prove yourself right now. You've got to prove and not to anybody else but yourself.
Starting point is 01:09:50 You got to prove that you have what it takes to get up early when it's hard to get up or work that extra day when you'd rather be off hanging out with your friends. That's the eating shit for two years. That's the part that there's another side to this too. He's talking about being healthy and fit, you know, fitness will make you more successful At your business, right? So yeah, you're not gonna be like training hardcore and being a competitive athlete But if you have a mentality where you're like, okay, I need to work hard
Starting point is 01:10:18 At my job or my business. Therefore, I'm doing no fitness and I'm eating crappy You're gonna actually that's lazy, dude That's a that's a poor excuse and that only did a poor excuse, but fitness and I'm eating crappy, you're gonna actually... That's lazy, dude. That's a poor excuse. And not only is it a poor excuse, but it's gonna make you less effective. Right, exactly. So, you know, the fact that that's even in this question right now, that's a flag right away, that dude, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I think it's gonna excuse. I've met so many people who were successful in business and then really overweight and unhealthy and they'll tell me, oh, you know what, I've been so focused on my business that I don't have time to be fit and eat right. And I just want to tell them, listen, you do realize that you'd be more effective at business. You got successful in spite of your bad. I know all the motherfuckers are doing it because I do it still. I still catch myself playing that same mental game with myself, justifying why I didn't
Starting point is 01:11:03 make it to Jim, why I didn't eat, why I didn't do these things because I'm so fucking busy. So I know, I know, because I fucking do it too, but it's okay, it's just know that, that you're using that as an out. It's like you're using that as an excuse, like no, how about you be healthy, practice what you preach, train, and fucking eat shit for two years. That's part of this, that's gonna be,
Starting point is 01:11:23 you're gonna be working your ass off for quite some time before you really, you know, re-put yourself. It's funny, man. You never have to tell somebody to work hard when they're doing what they love. Right. And they have passion behind it.
Starting point is 01:11:34 You never, yeah, in fact, somebody's really passionate about something. I've seen for myself in particular, the opposite, where I have to tell myself to take a step back. Right. Because I'm so passionate about this thing that I'm doing. That's all I want to do. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:11:47 No, that's another thing too. If you really feel like, you know, again, the eating shit thing is an analogy, I believe. But if you really feel like the whole process is miserable and it's really tough for you, then it's probably not the right thing for you. You know, it should feel maybe tough because it's a lot you're trying to accomplish. You're making big sacrifices because two years before this, you were hanging out with your buddies on the, I remember this, I remember this transition of,
Starting point is 01:12:10 you know, and there's nothing, there's nothing worse than having to hear your friends and everyone around you be like, oh, you never come out anymore. You never go drinking with us or, you know, you never come play video games for fucking a whole Saturday, like, you don't do that stuff anymore.
Starting point is 01:12:22 And you're like, yeah, my priorities have changed. There's things that are more important to me than getting that. That's not to say that I won't revisit that or I won't find balance with that in my life but right now I'm career driven and so I'm going to eat shit for a while and I'm going to do what it takes to succeed. And so I think you got to have that mentality and you got to recognize if you're actually enjoying the process or not. Next question is from Escatty. I see Navy SEALs, another military professionals that are jacked and able to run or swim, sustain for long distances.
Starting point is 01:12:52 I refuse to believe that, like many broscientists claim, if you train cardio, you always lose all your gains. If you were training cardiovascular endurance and you didn't want to lose muscle mass, how would you do that? Is there a way to use nutrition to stave off or completely eliminate the loss of muscle when training cardio? So this person made a cardinal mistake with their observations that a lot of us make.
Starting point is 01:13:16 Right, right. So this is the equivalent of me... Comparion athlete, dude. Yeah, so if I see a pro... If I didn't know any better, and I went to the NBA, and I watched all these guys play basketball I could Make the false assumption that basketball makes you really fucking tall like geez, man
Starting point is 01:13:33 If you play a lot of basketball we'll get jumping you're gonna get really tall So he's making the false assumption that because he sees these high-level Navy seals and military professionals that are muscular who are doing all this cardio that, you know, wow, it not only does it not make you lose muscle, but if you do a lot of it, you'll build muscle like they will. That's not true at all. What you're seeing are genetically gifted individuals who were able to be muscular in spite of the fact that they're doing tons and tons of endurance type training.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Endurance training will, it does ask the body to become more efficient with its calories, and it also asks the body to become better at what you're asking it to do. And both of those, you do better off with less muscle. You don't need a lot of muscle to have endurance. You just need condition muscle, and you don't need, and having a heavy body weight is actually detrimental to doing endurance type activity. So however muscular you are, you'll be less muscular if you do a heavy focus on endurance. Now you have great genetics, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:44 you may still be muscular. I know guys who have ridiculous endurance who are more muscular than I could be if I just focus on building muscle. They've just got those genes, man, where... Well, there's also, and there's still strategies to put in place to help this situation, right? You're not gonna be, there's not like this one answer
Starting point is 01:15:03 for everybody like, oh, if you do this, then you can be buff and do lots of cardio. Like, no, there's, there's more genetics involved in that. Anything. If you see someone who's like really muscular and they run miles and miles, miles, that a lot of that's genetics. Yeah. A lot of that's true. I know what I look like when I train like that. Yeah. Right. So for the most part, running like crazy and doing a lot of those things, send a signal to the body that it's not very advantageous for it to have a bunch of bulky muscles.
Starting point is 01:15:26 So that's first and foremost, but there are certain things that you can do nutritionally that will put you in a better place than somebody who's just mindlessly running on a treadmill do so. So fill your gas tank up. I mean, if you're going to go try and train cardio to where you build your endurance, I wouldn't be doing it not fed. I wouldn't be doing it not fed. I wouldn't be doing it with low carbohydrates in my system. I would most certainly have definitely fed myself really, really well before I go into
Starting point is 01:15:54 these types of runs. So I want to get the benefits of endurance, but then my body at least has some quick fuel, some glucose that it could tap into real fast and utilized. So I'm not just all of a sudden going, okay, I have nothing, I got to convert over to fat, and then my body adapts to getting rid of my muscle. There's also, the other thing too, is you can send mixed signals.
Starting point is 01:16:13 So if you're doing a lot of endurance training, you're sending the signal to your body to become more efficient, which will reduce your muscle mass. Send another signal that tells your body you also want strength. You need it. Yeah. So lift weights as well.
Starting point is 01:16:27 Now, when you're sending mixed signals, That's to it. Which movements. Right. When you're sending mixed signals, you're not going to get a lot of either one. Right. You're not going to max out at one or the other. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Like, if you want a ton of endurance, I'm going to be honest with you. If you want a ton of endurance, you're going to have to be okay with the fact that you're going to not be as muscular as you are when you're training just for strength. Just be okay with that because you're asking your body to do something and then you don't like what it does when you're asking it to do that thing. That's part of that adaptation. Well, the only time, and I bring up fast Twitch because everybody knows that you look at a sprinter and you just see this raw,, just powerful looking like strong body.
Starting point is 01:17:05 And they do develop it and build like quite an impressive physique. But I mean, think about what they're trying to do. They're trying to place down as much force in as quick a time as possible in a short burst. And then that's, you know, so that's what that's what the physicality of that, like, ends up resulting in this, you know, impressive looking physique. I'm going to focus on whichever thing is more important to me, and then I'll work on the other one. So like, if I, you know, if you, I want to be muscular and I want to have some good endurance, both are goals that you can achieve. Now, like Sal saying, each are going to take away from the
Starting point is 01:17:43 other one. So I'm okay with that. So, what I'm going to do is I'm gonna put all my energy towards one of them at first. So, what are that? So, maybe I want to be more muscular than I care about running the mile under seven minutes. Like, maybe that's what my goal is. Like, I'm like, I want it, but I do want to run the mile under sevens, but not as much as I want to build muscle. Like, I want to be a muscular guy.
Starting point is 01:18:02 If that's the case, I'm gonna build muscle, and I'm going to put some good size on me, then I'm going to transition into starting to incorporate some endurance training in there and I'm going to watch my physique because it's inevitable, it's going to, it's, you're going to be catabolic. If all of a sudden you go from not doing any cardio to also in training cardio for endurance,
Starting point is 01:18:19 you're catabolic and you're going to be catabolic a lot more than what you were before and I'm going to watch my physique and I'm gonna watch my physique, and I'm gonna still stay, just keep weight training, but now I've introduced this endurance training in there, and I'm gonna see kind of where it starts to deteriorate where it's like, okay, that's a far enough. Like I'm leaning.
Starting point is 01:18:34 Where's my threshold? Yeah, right, right, I gotta introduce more strength training. Right, and then I'm gonna try to, now if the opposite is true, I care less about being a really muscular guy, then I'm gonna go after my endurance goals. I'm going to get after that seven minute mile or whatever that my goal may be, you know, and I'm going to work on that first and I'm going to get really good at that. And
Starting point is 01:18:52 then I'm going to start applying things that are going to help me build more muscle and incorporate more of that into my true. Yeah, your body, your body wants to become specialized. If you focus it to be specialized, you'll get a lot of that particular goal that you're looking for. But if you ask your body to be generalized, you'll get a little bit of each of those things. So a good example is think of a vehicle. You are building a vehicle that goes off-road and races on a racetrack. So what is that vehicle going to look like? It's not going to be as good off-road as a dedicated off-road vehicle. And it's not going to be as good on a racetrack. So what is that vehicle gonna look like? It's not gonna be as good off-road as a
Starting point is 01:19:26 dedicated off-road vehicle and it's not gonna be as good on a racetrack as a dedicated racetrack vehicle. It'll do it'll do decent about them. A perfect example is CrossFit. Yes. CrossFit's perfect. There's not one CrossFit athlete that is going to beat an endurance runner. There's not one CrossFit athlete that's going to beat a Olympic lifter. They're not the best. If you're looking at the top 10% of those categories, there's not one that's going to beat in either country. But there's a lot of Crossfitters that can do really well with some power lifters and still do pretty well with some endurance runners. But they'll never be the top of their class in that. And that's what you get. And then the ones that you look at that Cross that CrossFit, that are look amazing aesthetically.
Starting point is 01:20:07 Well, those people have genetically that way. Genetically, that guy or girl probably looked pretty close to like that before they even got involved and it just evolved their physique even more. So I think we have a perfect example by looking at Swiss Army knife of athletes. But then on a shirt. They got the spoon, the screwdriver. Can we make that? CrossFit, the army knife of athletes. But then I'm a shirk. They got the spoon, the screwdriver.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Can we make it? They're a spoon. Crossfit, the Swiss army of fitness. Swiss army knife of fitness. Somebody needs to make that meme. I like that. I like that. Check this out.
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