Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 696: 50 Cent’s Bitcoin Discovery, Addressing Body Dysmorphia, the Challenges of Being a Fit Parent & MORE

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Starting point is 00:00:43 And then we talk about 50 cents. Long hair. Not the half dollar, but the rapper. Y'all. Who found, who found? Yeah. This is hilarious. $8 million in Bitcoin.

Starting point is 00:00:53 In Bitcoin. Hey, look at that. Oh, look what's in my pocket. We talk about citizen scientists who are inventing shit in their garages. Oh boy, that could be scary. Oh, come here. Planet of the Apes is coming.

Starting point is 00:01:04 We talk about the CTE study of pro football players. Justin's fucked. College football players. Damn. And high school football players, I think Justin's safe. He wasn't the kind of person to tackle with his head. No, not at all.

Starting point is 00:01:16 We talk about the new XFL. What? We talk about keto and its brain protective properties. Could probably help with the CTE. Gobble that up. Adam does the absolute worst mention of organified gold juice, but we are sponsored by our...

Starting point is 00:01:31 Not necessarily true. If we were another company, this might be a great strategy to say some shit like this. That's true. So we are sponsored by our GANIFI. So if you go to organifyshop.com and you enter the code MindPump without a space,

Starting point is 00:01:43 you'll get a fat discount. They also sell protein powders, green juices, a lot of different products. We talk about my son's puberty transition. Growing a mush dish. This is a lot of fun. All right. We talk about body odors,

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Starting point is 00:02:51 the best company we know of is Juve, that's J-O-O-V-V, if you go to Juve.com-forward-slash-mind-pump, you'll get a discount off of their products. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, what has been the hardest part of being a fit parent? What kind of shaming do we get for being awesome? Yeah. The next question was, we hear a lot about women dealing with body image issues, and then many disorders it can lead to,

Starting point is 00:03:18 but is that also becoming common among young men? Are young men starting to develop lots of body to smorphy issues? And if it is happening, what do we think is causing this? Or has it always been there? The next question was, how do we feel about popular fitness influencers helping people, even though they may be taking performance

Starting point is 00:03:39 enhancing drugs? What do we think about the steroid fitness professionals on Instagram, which makes up something like 95% of them. The final question was Tom Brady, you know, the second best quarterback in fall history. Judy's already passed that all the way. He's officially the first lady. The lady. He's got a sleepwear. That's a terrible song, Justin. I don't think he likes that. He's got a sleepwear line with bioceramic material That supposedly Tech releases your body's mechanisms to enhance recover or at least then mechanisms is this science or is this magic?

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Starting point is 00:05:56 Water Boy, O4, all of you are winners. Send the name. I just read to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that right out to you Thanks guys Dang you know I hate it when Adam and troops you singing Just try to hear your song. It's so beautiful That was a good song man. We're back. That was a jam back home. It's you know what?

Starting point is 00:06:30 There's just something about being home, dude. Yeah. Yeah, it just feels good feels right. It does feels more righteous A lot more righteous more good or comfortable. It's more goodness or good truth truthiness We are the light. We are the salt. Yeah, I mean, but it's wrong. Whoops. Careful. It's nice from shit over. It's your bum. Sal's, I mean, Doug's army box over here. It is. He's got a bullet army box that he keeps some of his ready for war. What you guys doing? The champ is ready for war. What you do when you guys got home after our trip? You guys crash out to care my two kids with the flu. Oh, yeah, so what's going on, dude? Oh, man Yeah, yeah

Starting point is 00:07:14 I made the most of it like a long time ago I took away the we and decided like hey, we're not gonna leave the house We're at a we party and so they were like totally like passed out and all fried and everything. I'm like playing the wee, but myself. That was your point. You're like, hey kids, you're sick. I'm gonna bring out the wee, me. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah, it's a play. Did you do anything for your birthday or is that all this week coming out? This week and coming up, you're gonna celebrate it. Yeah, this weekend, yeah, I didn't do anything. Oh yeah, what are you guys doing? Happy birthday. Thanks, thanks man.

Starting point is 00:07:44 Yeah, happy birthday. We're going to Seattle. So Courtney and I are anything. Oh yeah, what are you guys doing? Happy birthday. Thanks. Thanks man. Happy birthday. We're going to Seattle. So Courtney and I are going to spend, yeah, just quality time catching up and being adults. What's in Seattle? Just hanging out. Like I have actually family up there, but she just decided to pick a location. We're starting to do this.

Starting point is 00:08:02 Just try pick a location, hang out and use it as an excuse to kind of catch up and reconnect. So that one market, that one market, that famous marketer, by takes a picture in front of, you know what I'm talking about, Seattle. Pike place. Pike place. A lot of fun, dude.

Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah, Jessica and I did a lot of fun shopping there, walking around to the gritties. We're totally gonna get up like museums and stuff, you know what I'm saying? Speaking of museums, I went to a great one yesterday, shopping there, walking around. We're totally gonna get up like museums and stuff. Speaking of museums, I went to a great one. Yesterday, you see, I did the museums of Fine Art. And the one I went to was the Legion, I don't remember the name of it, shit, let me look it up.

Starting point is 00:08:37 Anyway, Legion of Honor. And they had just some paintings from, you know, the 1500s and 1400s. Then they had Egyptian artifacts and stuff that were thousands of years old. How cool. The Egyptian artifacts are like my favorite. It's just fascinating because I'm looking at these.

Starting point is 00:08:57 It's weird. When you're a kid, you don't get it because you see it and you're like, this is stupid. All right, and that's funny how that works. When you're young, it's just like, there's nothing, it's not, this is stupid. Or in that funny how that works. When you're young, it's just like, there's nothing, it's not, this is boring. I went to that museum when I was probably 17 or 18,

Starting point is 00:09:11 some around there, and it just wasn't that cool. It's not the same. So the first time a museum really hit me where I was like really enthralled by it, was when I went to the Louvre Museum in France, which still is the best museum I've ever been to. That's where the Mona Lisa is and lots of stuff. So, we were going through, and I was probably, let's see.

Starting point is 00:09:33 I was like 20, I wanna say 21, so I was still pretty young. And we're walking through, no, maybe a little older, actually, maybe like 24, so we're walking through, and I had done judo as a kid and I'd gotten just started getting back into Brazilian or into Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. And I'm walking through it, it's cool. And I'm kind of appreciating it more than I do

Starting point is 00:09:52 when I was a kid, but I didn't have that impact until we're walking through some of the ancient Roman art. And I see this tablet that's no bigger than, you know, maybe the size of a little bit bigger than like binder paper, right, and it's this old ancient tablet. And I'm looking at it and it's thousands of years old, which is kind of cool, but what was on the tablet was more fascinating.

Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm looking at, and it was a tablet carved of two Greek, Greco-Roman wrestlers, or wrestlers from ancient Greece. So this thing's thousands of years old. And the move that one of the guys was doing on the other guy was a move that I had just learned in Jiu-Jitsu. No, was this a, was this,

Starting point is 00:10:39 like you saw the image of him doing the move or it said the move? No, no, no, it was a picture, it was a sculpture. So it was like a tablet sculpture, ancient, is he doing like a hip toss or something? No, it's kind of like a half Nelson almost. It's hard to explain, but he's got the guy in a really good position and I'm like, holy shit,

Starting point is 00:10:59 they were just teaching that in class a few weeks ago and I'm looking at it and it there's this fucking where the origin probably was, right? Older than that. It's obviously older than that because they were doing it then. They learned it from someone. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:11:13 It's like, it just, it just reinforced to me how knowledge is like that sticks around. It's just, it's effective because it's, and it, because it's lasted. Yeah, the effective stuff stays. Yeah, so that really hit me like holy shit. And then the rest of the museum was just mind blowing because now I'm walking through and I'm looking at all these things that are so old but I wonder how much wisdom that we have today

Starting point is 00:11:35 that came from, and obviously there's a lot. I mean, look at the ancient Greeks and their philosophies were just, I mean, they conceptualized the atom before we even knew there was an atom. What? You know, I mean, they conceptualized the atom before we even knew there was an atom. What? You know, I mean, just crazy, crazy stuff. So it was pretty awesome. Yeah, anyway, so we did the museum of fine arts and then after we walked through it, we sat outside and it was a beautiful day in San Francisco. I was like 68 degrees, so it wasn't super warm, but it wasn't cold. And we sat out in the lawn and we just read for a while

Starting point is 00:12:05 and then we went through the city and got some coffee and had a walk in the marina. Nice town. Nice town, I can dress up. How about you Adam? We went to Oakland. So I was up in, first time I've been Jack London Square. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:19 Beautiful, man. That's great. Yeah, my best friend's wife, it was her birthday and we had brunch set up over at Scott C. Food in Jacqueline in Square and I was only in Oakland. I was like, why the fuck are I still gonna get treated? I'm like, why are we going to Oakland, man? I know it's like the gym of Oakland though. It is. So I didn't know that right? So I was kind of I was already kind of disappointed that we were driving this far for brunch, right? But I was pleasantly surprised when I pulled up. I was like, man, this is really nice. I'll definitely come back here again Where'd you guys eat at Scott seafood? Oh, Scott seafood. It's right on the pier right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

Starting point is 00:12:55 Scott seafoods already give me their downtown San Jose. So I'm familiar with with Scott seafood Well, that must have irritated you more. It's like I know where's a Scott seafood well, that's why I was saying I'm like why are we going all the way to Oakland to go to Scott seafood when there's one right downtown? I'm like, is there some, are we like, is Oakland the central place for all the friends that are coming? I don't think it is, right? So anyways, we went and it was, it was beautiful, amazing food. They do that they did that we did like this brunch where you just pay $50 a person, which it ended up being more like 80. I don't know why, maybe because we got other stuff.

Starting point is 00:13:25 And then you have like bottomless memoses and you have this huge buffet of all kinds of stuff. So yeah, it was really good. It was a beautiful day, nice on the water. I mean, I was tired because any time we get back from our trips, I'm just mentally drained. Well, bro, you also, how did you feel afterwards? No sickness, no nothing.

Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah, nothing, dude. So, trip on that right? I gotta tell the story. I gotta tell a story because it's a fascinating story. So we're hosting the on it academy and you know Kyle Kingsbury in particular showed us a great deal of hospitality. Put us up in a home that they that the on the news they pulled all the stuff. And the house is fully stocked with on it products, supplements, galore. So pretty much anything you want.

Starting point is 00:14:09 Now, you know, I'm a supplement fanatic, if you will. I've been addicted to them. And so I know how to temper myself now, because I've gone down that road. But while we're there, you know, we're just taking things left and right, trying things out. And so, and we put this together later because at first we thought maybe you had the flu or something.

Starting point is 00:14:29 But you took in the morning the primal day pack, which includes alpha brain and a bunch of other things in there. Then you had- Six or seven pills actually. Yeah, then you had more alpha brain at the house. Then you had a pre-workout at the Honored academy, which contained more alpha brain and other stuff in it. Then you had a post workout shake, which had other shit. You OD don't have a brain.

Starting point is 00:14:51 Then we sat down to podcast with Kyle and Kyle's handing out supplements. And I'm literally said to you guys, you guys should be careful what you're taking, because you don't know what you're mixing together. And, you know, but you guys just took, you know, I think he gave you guys like five pills, you took them and then like 30 minutes later. What happened? Yeah, there was a shift and I remember, and you know, here's a good example.

Starting point is 00:15:13 So I know people always ask like this whole, you know, state change thing that I talk about, like I've got DMs all the time, like what do you mean by that? And how do you start practicing this? And this is a good example. So I kind of flashed on style. I snapped at a forum kid and then I also snapped on Katrina all within like a couple hours, which is not like me, you know, like it's not like me to do that. And I remember when you had said

Starting point is 00:15:39 something to me after the podcast and you're like, bro, what's wrong with you? And I was like, oh, I was irritated. I was so tired of talking to psychedelics. And I was, I was, because I remember before the interview, I said, let's not talk about psychedelics while we're on it. Like, can we fucking do one interview? Is there anything we can make about that? Can we do one fucking interview

Starting point is 00:15:54 with a fucking on it person and not talk about fucking Ayahuasca and Sal took us there. So I'm like, I was all irritated at him. But then I thought like, who cares? You know what I'm saying? Like, we haven't navigated through that before. And he made a comment to me afterwards, like dude, what was wrong with you?

Starting point is 00:16:09 You're just out of it? Or I was like, yeah. And I blamed it on being irritated by the psychedelic talk, which is bullshit in a sense. And I didn't put it together until, with God home, I got home. And I, what we were driving home, remember? And I was driving and I looked you guys, I'm like,

Starting point is 00:16:22 man, I have an a really hard time keeping my eyes open. And it's only like seven o'clock, you know, it's not late at all. And so I thought that was really weird. And then I got to the house, and I lay down for a second, and I'm texting Katrina, and she made a comment about something, about some coworker of hers hitting on her, and I totally made like a smart ass comment

Starting point is 00:16:43 to her, just, you know that I don't know where right and I could tell that it really bothered her and it was just me snapping at her which is not my style at all especially over something like that I'm not even close to the jealous type. And then some four member made some pull about me on on the Facebook and I jabbed it here. Thank God he didn't get that much for me because I was actually like careful about I was like yeah I don't want wanna fucking like this kid up.

Starting point is 00:17:06 I'm just gonna say like a little jab, just don't poke the bear type of deal, right? But then I thought like fuck, that was like back to back to back things that really fucked with me, that that's not me to be that way. So I'm laying there kind of evaluating the day and then I just get like nauseous, dude.

Starting point is 00:17:22 And I know where. At a nowhere, just nowhere, I get really nauseous. Every time I look at my phone, it makes it worse. And so I set the phone down, I'm kind of sitting there and I'm like, do I have to puke? And I'm like, that's weird. I haven't been feeling sick at all. And I know Justin's really sick.

Starting point is 00:17:37 So I'm like, fuck, did I get Justin's thing? That's weird on an audit, I know where. And I don't have flu-like symptoms, but also and I feel really nauseous. And I go to the toilet and I projectile vomit, dude. I mean, I've throw my brains up. All the food that we had just ate with Kyle, we had this huge, probably 14-ounce steak

Starting point is 00:17:54 that his wife cooked for us. We had a big old salad. I mean, it all came up. Everything came up, and I did that three times, like, just. Oh, that sucks. Yeah, especially with your ankle, because you can't really. Oh, yeah, so I can't get down on the floor because my, so I'm, so the, it's disgusting. And I don't know how I'm feeling.

Starting point is 00:18:13 Like, but it's splashing up in my face. Yeah. Yeah. Because it's too much of a distance, you know, from the water. You're just firing. Oh, yeah. It's coming out with some thunder. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:22 So I'd have, I had to wash my face afterwards, brush my teeth and I came out and asked you guys, my bro, this was so weird, I just peaked my guts out and I actually feel a lot better right after doing that. You were fine. So, because here's what I noticed. And by the way, Doug followed a similar supplement regime to you that day, because he took a lot of what you did. You guys were going crazy with it.

Starting point is 00:18:43 He had a migraine and it started during the podcast. And I noticed when we were recording, so you guys are the same way. We're all like this now. We've been doing this for so long, right? It's like, you know, almost a thousand hours of podcasting. I can sense when there's a shift in energy. And I can sense when it's, you know,

Starting point is 00:19:04 something someone said, something that's going on, we're really good at reading each other. And I can also sense when it's something else, and it was really weird, it was like, the first 20 to 30 minutes, you know, you were your normal self. And then all of a sudden, it was like, like someone turned the lights off,

Starting point is 00:19:21 and you sat back and you had this look on your face. I can't wait to see the video because there's video of all this. Yeah. So when it goes live for on on it, you'll see the video and I do recall, you know, I looked at you, look like you were having a tough time keeping your eyes open. I was if they're if I remember looking at the cameras at one time, thinking, if we were not on camera, I would totally like kind of close my eyes for a few minutes, why is house

Starting point is 00:19:44 talking because I'm just like getting my eyes are so heavy. I could feel it, I could feel like something's happening. Then I look at Doug and Doug is like rubbing his eyes and have a tough time. And at that moment, and this is why when we turned off the podcast, I said something. At that moment, I'm like, oh fuck, they took too much stuff. Like they're all, it's hitting them because you took like four or five pills

Starting point is 00:20:03 right before the podcast. So about 30 minutes later, when you'll start to feel it right and sure enough I could tell like oh fuck something something's going on It must have been too much and you can you can definitely take too much of anything and have adverse effects And so then we get home and it's funny we get home and it's like after eating dinner at Kyle's house and We were gonna do all this work because we had all this work to do and you know, you and Doug were like, I need to go to bed, which is not like any of us, especially not like you guys,

Starting point is 00:20:30 or Doug especially, Doug's like 7.30. Yeah, it's Doug stays up till two o'clock in the morning of your night. We were all feeling it. And I'm like, fuck, so I go upstairs and I'm doing some work on my phone or whatever and I hear you come out of the room and you're like, sell, sell, like what man, you're like,

Starting point is 00:20:46 I just fucking threw up, dude, what's going on? I'm like, oh shit, then we started to put two and two together, but yeah. Yeah, and you know, that you felt fine the next day, yeah. Totally fine. I felt like the next day, like I had a hangover, right? Like something had, like I did something to my body yesterday

Starting point is 00:20:59 that we like really straight, that same feeling, right? So when you, when you push the alcohol, you push the drugs the day before, yeah, I felt hungover a little bit, not bad, like I ate all normal, my stomach was fine. We all ate the same food. My body just felt like, oh, and I bet I was really sensitive too because we just came off of this fast. I ran like a ketogenic diet, then I've transitioned

Starting point is 00:21:19 into a paleo diet, and I was just starting to kind of reintroduce more carbohydrates, and then while we are on this trip, we were kind of keto, like we were eating a lot of keto type. So I didn't feel like I had much in my system, we were eating low calorie too. So you're just sensitive on top? Yeah, I think I was just...

Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, because we also had coffee throughout the day. We had all those stimulants, we had mixed all kinds of different supplements together. And you probably took two or three times the dose of a couple of them, you know, at the same time, because I can, I know when I do that to myself, it just feels like, it feels like absolute garbage. Which I know people are listening right now and thinking like, what an asshole, what are

Starting point is 00:21:52 you thinking, you know, but you just caught up in the moment of everything that we're doing. Plus it was really cool having, we literally had, it's all in our disposal. Yes, we had every on it supplement you guys have ever seen. It's stocked in this house, everything too, from their toothpaste They're fucking shampoo and soap and everything else they they provide like though. It's kind of cool the whole house is Stocked with that. So you know, you do that to a bunch of fitness Supplement junkies You know say that was like that's what happened it was right now

Starting point is 00:22:20 You just took a bunch of extra kids and candy store like yeah, it's in you know What do you expect you take it to alcoholic and you throw them in a bar for three days and then tell and you can have unlimited drinks If he wants and he starts sipping on some of the drinks next thing you know, we're taking all this shit So my body said I'm funny. Well, I'm not sick So I forgot to mention in San Francisco when we went to the coffee shop I know Starbucks now has Stivia, a lot of places will have Stivia packets or Starbucks well at least in some Starbucks,

Starting point is 00:22:50 but we were in some local coffee shop, so it wasn't a chain one. So I get my espresso and I'm like, shit, I wonder what I hope they have something I can put in here that's not artificial. And I look and there's a Splenda packet and it says Splenda Naturals. Splenda now makes a stevia-based sweetener. It has stevia and

Starting point is 00:23:13 urethriol in it. But now here's a deal. It's highly processed stevia. Probably not nearly as good as the more raw version of it, but I gotta do more research. Nonetheless, what a signal, what a powerful signal that they are, they can see that the market's shifting and they're starting to move in that direction. Cause Splenda is, I mean, that is a massive company. The makers of, you know,

Starting point is 00:23:39 sucralos are huge and now we're seeing them go in that direction. That's kind of cool. It's kind of evidence that, you know. Did the kids send you guys the Gatorade one too? Did you see Gatorade with their organic drinks? Do they really? Get the fuck out, you guys have to see it? No, you gotta Google Gatorade organic.

Starting point is 00:23:57 Just Google that. I am always talking shit about that. It just looks, I know, we talk shit about that. That's why somebody sent it over to us and they're like, you guys have been predicting all this stuff. Look how crazy this is. And then you sent over the new Gatorade bottles with the organic. And I haven't even, I mean, you couldn't see the back

Starting point is 00:24:13 of the label, I didn't do my own research yet. I thought for sure one of you guys had seen it by now. Well, good, I mean, yeah, but I want to see the label because what is Gatorade organic even mean? Was that it? Was that what I looked like? I don't know.

Starting point is 00:24:25 Well, you know what it means? It means it's flavored with organic sugar. You know? That's all. They get rid of a lot of the dyes and all that shit. Yeah, maybe. Here, look, you find it dug. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:35 Yeah. Yeah. News flash. Organic doesn't mean healthy. No, I know. Still sugar water. Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, but this is how this is what the market does, right? So we take something and now it's a buzz term. So we slap it on a label. I've actually seen no joke.

Starting point is 00:24:50 I'm not lying. I've actually seen gluten free on water bottles of water. I have to bottles of water that I think is beyond hilarious or low carb. I've seen low carb waterb water too. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks for satisfying that for me. That free water. I don't know about you guys, but that wheat water, that water made from wheat, that tastes like bread squeezed from the wheat. Yeah, it's beer. You know what, you know water with gluten is called beer?

Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah. Exactly. That's what beer is. Why were on current events? Here's another one for you guys see the news that came out on 50 cent. So he filed for bankruptcy in 2015. Oh, you're wrong.

Starting point is 00:25:28 Mistakenly just found bitcoins on the order. Yeah, so he wanted to, I think in two back in 2000s something. I don't know what it was. One of his albums that he released, he sold and traded in in Bitcoin. So he allowed you. He let people pay with Bitcoin. Yeah, he let people pay with Bitcoin. And so motherfucker got like it has like eight million dollars in Bitcoin. He just found it to. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, just realized the problem

Starting point is 00:25:50 saw had that. Could you hear? Here's something amazing. What you know what this tells me? More than anything. There's, there's two strong pieces of evidence now that this guy is a fucking terrible money man. Two pieces of evidence. One, you go bankrupt when you're a well-known brand and you've made lots of money and it just shows that you're an idiot with money. And two, you have seven million dollars that you just discovered because your accounts are scouring ways to fucking keep you from, you know, losing everything through your bankruptcy. Yeah. Ridiculous. Absolutely. Well, I in his defense, okay, because I don't know enough. Here's a deal. bankruptcy is many times, especially at that level of that much money, many times of strategy. Many times the guys, and they, and it makes for good news to say that 50 cent with

Starting point is 00:26:38 bankrupt, but really what he could have done was bankrupt one of his entities that is was not making a lot of money. And so, and it's a smart strategy. So he's not going to get nailed on it. But yeah, he's got fucking millions of dollars. It's put it's put it. Yeah. It's like Donald Trump. I mean, it was like when they tried to hammer Donald Trump for all of his bankruptcies. But I mean, that's they were all business strategies and maneuvers, right? The guys not fucking bankrupt. So more than likely when you see celebrities like that that go bankrupt, quote unquote, I think that they're still, I think they've been advised to do that.

Starting point is 00:27:14 I don't know about you guys, but I get really, really, really excited when I put on a pair of jeans and I put my hand in the pocket and there's like, oh, fuck, 20 bucks. Super excited. This is the equivalent of that time, but like, what? In millions.

Starting point is 00:27:28 Yeah, I can put your hand in your pocket like $7 million? Holy shit. What's up? That Bitcoin is just there. You know, it's not like a tangible thing unless you're like still in it. So, I mean, that's whoops, I have, what? $7, 8 million in Bitcoin.

Starting point is 00:27:44 That's ridiculous. He must have just started jumping up and down. So crazy. So we got some more news here, some more new news. Do you do it yourself biohackers are now starting to play with things like gene therapy and making like reverse engineering things like epipans and gene therapy for animals.

Starting point is 00:28:10 So there's actually people right now in their garages who some of them, many of them have no formal education. They are figuring out ways or they're trying to research ways to edit gene so that dogs don't have particular inheritable disorders and stuff like that. But these are people that are not funded by anybody,

Starting point is 00:28:31 they're not me. They're doing it on their own. This is a straight alchemy. This is, I mean, how do you guys feel about that? How do you feel about these, you know, these, these citizens' scientists. Unqualified scientists, just experimenting. Well, what qualifies you in regulated?

Starting point is 00:28:46 Think about that. Pfft. Yeah, I'd, it's, I mean, it's the ultimate, like free market way to do it, right? It's kind of weird, right? Because part of me scared, because part of me's like, I don't want a bunch of regular people trying to put crazy shit together and whatever.

Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah. But that's the same, that's kind of the same fear that they create like a biohazard. You know what I mean? Oh, what if they do something really good? Yeah, or what if they do something awesome? Yeah, what if they do something really good? I mean, there's big risks.

Starting point is 00:29:14 And it's not like, and it's not like government agencies have a great necessarily track record of ethics. It's like that. I mean, it's like the debate that we have about like even education versus somebody who's experienced, right? What if these guys, what if some of these people have put in a ton of hours of testing things and actually have a lot of hands-on experience and could potentially produce something that is of value and is amazing or whatever and

Starting point is 00:29:39 they're not. There's nobody else, their hands aren't in it trying to manipulate and change it. So, yeah, I don't know. Yeah. The thing that I could see that argument, I didn't know anything about this. Yeah. So, this is all recent news or what? Yeah, it's like becoming a thing. They're having conventions where these biohackers are talking about how they're trying to,

Starting point is 00:30:00 you know, edit genes, how they're trying to create, you know, their own medicines, how they're using, you know, their knowledge of technology and science to do things that was formally done, because the technology's gotten so advanced now that the hurdles that you used to have to doing this kind of stuff, which one of the main hurdles was money, right? Like, you needed hundreds and hundreds of thousands

Starting point is 00:30:23 dollars to afford to be able to get. So you can get it really soon. Yeah, one of that are just to get the tools necessary to be able to do these things. Well, that amount of money now is down to thousands. It's not hundreds of thousands or millions anymore now. It's down to thousands. And the information's out there. And information's easy to share now. I don't think you could stop it even if you wanted to. Well, this is just another 10 as a massive disruptor, right? So it's like, you know, that seems to be the word, but it's like in this industry,

Starting point is 00:30:50 you never had people have accessed all these things before. Now, there's communities built, I'm sure they're talking with each other and what work, what didn't work. So it's like, it's just gonna keep growing. This is how scientists were, you know, a hundred years ago. Right, I was gonna say, I would think someone like you who's so pro free market would be all for this, you know.

Starting point is 00:31:09 I am, but there's these natural fears I have, right? What if some dude like fucks with the virus and creates the next, you know, whatever. But here's a thing too that worries me a little bit is, not so much that it's the current atmosphere of this worship. I've talked about this several times now, but this worship of science where the ethics are kind of subjective rather than objective. So it's not, it's like, I make my own rules and I'm going to worship science in any advancement is good. And if I can do it, I should do it instead of, you know, should

Starting point is 00:31:44 I do this even though I can? And that's what worries me a little bit. If somebody is working with genes and they say, hey, you know what, why not? My wife is gonna get pregnant, why not? Use what I know, my technology to see if I can make my child less prone to disease. That sounds good, that sounds like a good thing

Starting point is 00:32:04 and not have the ethical or moral compass because it's all subjective now too. And so that may pose some problems, but to be honest with you, I don't think we can troll it. So really, really doesn't make a difference, right? Yeah, it's tough because yeah, you do want people to lead with that, like that question before the intent of what, you know, the experiment is and whether it's even an ethical, valuable direction for them to pursue, but it is almost an

Starting point is 00:32:34 arms race of like, who could do it, who can do it first? They're already, they're experimenting with their bodies, so they're making devices that they'll implant into their arm or into their face or whatever. There was one device I was watching on this video when the sky implanted these devices, and they would react to things when he'd get near them by giving them a buzz or something in his skin. He started creating this other...

Starting point is 00:32:59 He's like haptic feedback. Yeah, and he's created this brain, this, like his brain patterns have changed to the point where he now has an alternate sense now through this device as to where he can feel things around him rather than seeing them. So, I mean, that's kind of cool. And he is, you know, he's experimenting on himself, but I don't know, man, I read a lot of comic books

Starting point is 00:33:18 and I was like, yeah. I remember, that's very, he's trying to be Spider-Man. Yeah, dude. I remember the lizard guy that healed his arm and turned into fucking... Yeah, yeah, there was Spider-Man. Yeah, dude. I remember the lizard guy that healed his arm and turned into fucking... Yeah, there was cautionary tail. It's in the comic books. You turn into a fucking monster.

Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, yeah. Dr. Jack, whoa. We've been talking about this forever. It just takes one thing, you know. It's weird. Makes them weird radioactive monster. Here's another interesting thing that just came out. So, you know, they have that new CTE testing.

Starting point is 00:33:46 So CTE is the chronic trauma. This was the article you were reading on the plane. Yeah, so this is... Glad you brought this up, you see. This is the type of brain damage that you see in athletes or people who've had lots of, not necessarily concussions, but just... Brain trauma. just banging on their head, but it's small enough to where we couldn't,

Starting point is 00:34:10 we couldn't see it with imaging, unless the person died and then we could take the brain out and then look at it closer and then we would notice, oh, here's what's going on. And it made big news, not so long. Did you guys ever watch the Will Smith movie? I did. Okay, excellent. What's the name of it?

Starting point is 00:34:24 Can't leave the name of it right now? Yeah, oh my god Remember all fired it's a yeah, it's I mean in along the lines of CTE right this is a great great great story It's well and they I believe it was this was the doctor who first came forward and started actually trying to do all the research Yeah, because we had those suicides, right? Well, those athletes were killing themselves, but instead of sitting there, they're shooting themselves in their brains, they were shooting themselves in their hearts.

Starting point is 00:34:51 Yeah, Junior Sayah was the one who really kicked it off as far as he shot himself in the chest for that reason and left a note so that they would actually give off tops to the brain. Is it concussion? Yes, that's the name of it. Yeah, concussion. So, but yeah, and so the name of it. Yeah, concussion. So,

Starting point is 00:35:05 but yeah, and so that kind of started this whole controversy. Well, now they have imaging that you can actually see CTE in the brain without having to, you know, take it out and dissect it. And there was a small study that was done. And they tested 111 pro football players or X pro football players out of 111 Pro football players. How many of them do you think had CTE 110 110 110 110 I've never seen that then they studied college players 53 college players out of 53 college players. How many of them do you think had CTE 53 48 48 Then they went to high school. This is the one that scared me the most. High school students, they tested 14 high school football

Starting point is 00:35:48 students and they found that three had CTE, even on that level. Even on that level. So it's not like football, I pro football. So when you hear a stat like that, Justin, what do you think about like with your boys growing up and the possibility that they might want to play football, they watch their dad play football in a fucking throwback game just recently, there's a good chance that when they get old enough, they're really going might want to play football. They watch their dad play football in a fucking throwback game just recently.

Starting point is 00:36:06 There's a good chance that when they get old enough, they're really gonna want to play. There's caution to it, of course. It would have to be like the, I don't know, man, I would go back and forth with it, and I would struggle with it because, I know you're positive from it. I've had so many positives,

Starting point is 00:36:22 the team element and just the actual, you know, brotherhood and all that kind of stuff like beyond the sport of it, I think is so valuable, but you could get that from a lot of different sports. So I could sort of reevaluate whether another sport might be an option or that, but I have seen some advancements, like even when we were at CES,

Starting point is 00:36:43 there was companies that were out there that they had technology they're putting inside the helmet to find out like how many traumas they had in practice like on the helmet itself. So then they would gather all these data points and then they had a team physician that would kind of go over the data points and see, well, this has had, you know, this individual had this many impacts throughout this week. Let's kind of back off.

Starting point is 00:37:12 And, you know, and so it seems to me like they're making some efforts in that direction as far as like, okay, well, we know this is happening now. How do we sort of minimize it? So it's just part of the game You know or the tackle strategy that might change so I don't know the the game might evolve I believe it is if you I mean if you're a fan of the sport like I am and you take the helmets off You watch you watch that's a great idea you watch you watch the direction. It's going right now. They're already evolving I mean And each year the last like three years I've noticed like, and I remember the transition as a fan watching. I didn't like it at first because you're like, oh, come on. That was a great hit, you know, but they're they're protecting these guys now with like the hits as far as anything. If their helmets accidentally collide together like that, if it looks like that, the defender is coming at them

Starting point is 00:38:03 with the helmet at all. It's a flag. A lot of times it's incidental and the guy still gets flied, but they're really trying to train the players in. You don't hit head to head at all anymore. So I believe, and I think they're going to continue to go that way. So I mean, the other option is what's coming out again. Do you hear XFL? XFL. Yes, it's 2020. Mac. What do you mean XFL XFL? Yes, it's 2020. He make man. What do you mean XFL? FXL is XFL is coming. They're making it come back. Yes, 2020.

Starting point is 00:38:28 It's our he's already announced it. It's here. Why is that an option? I'm joking. It's not really an option. If it's another league, XFL was a member. So Vince McMahon owner of the WWE and he came out with the XFL back in 2000 and I want to see which was a cool concept back in the day. I mean I watched a few. Yeah. So they had like girls. They had girls

Starting point is 00:38:52 and bikinis and the jacuzzi and the in zone and they had they let players give themselves nicknames like he hate me and you know it was more it was if you could imagine if the W.W.E. was like pro wrestling football. Yeah, but you actually had some real good athletes that just couldn't, that couldn't quite make the NFL that we're playing on there. And so it, it's right out the gate, the first couple episodes, it had, it broke records as far as rating. So it was like holy shit, this could go somewhere. But it fell off a cliff and then it became, it went from, yeah, it went from being these

Starting point is 00:39:24 crazy ratings to some of the worst ratings of prime time TV ever and that's why it died So the big question everyone's asking is like what's gonna keep it from dying again? And so they have supposedly big plans quote unquote of how they're going to do that Well, I know the numbers NFL numbers are down right? They've been down since the whole I the whole process. I think that's why McMahon is doing this because he sees an opportunity when there's blood on the street. That's when you buy, right? So do you think that his league is gonna be like,

Starting point is 00:39:51 no holds bar where it's like, you know, like you can tackle anyway, you want or whatever? It's gonna be the opposite. So actually one of the things they did say was that it'll be safer than the NFL. So I don't, yeah, so that makes me wonder, like maybe they, maybe they will be no helmets. That's carnage help. They go no helmets, dude. Maybe they're the first one. Maybe maybe he's that smart that he sees the all the controversy around the NFL. They see the rates are down

Starting point is 00:40:16 and maybe he thinks the answer is be the first one to transition to this completely safe sport where we go helmetless and tackle football. I don't know. I'm just speculating right now I mean it was interesting because I I played both rugby and football and You know coming from football and then transitioning into rugby was especially interesting because I didn't lose a lot of the tendencies That I had to tackle people that's your pattern dude. Yeah, so it's like I I would tackle people, like, and I would, I'm coming forward with my chest, my shoulder, and my chin kind of down, and then coming up and driving into the person. And a lot of times I would make connection there to the chin and the head with the person,

Starting point is 00:40:56 and then I had to like, really alter that and like, figure out how to do it in a different way and let them sort of like, come to me a little bit more. I didn't realize that you went from football to rugby. I actually thought it in a different way and let them sort of like come to me a little bit more. I didn't realize that you went from football to rugby. I actually thought it was the other way around. It's a tough transition. Yeah, I did kind of both. So yeah, I just fuck yourself up quite a few times.

Starting point is 00:41:13 Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah, I hit people like just like I would normally would and I almost broke my collarbone just because, you know, you're just driving all of your work. Did people get pissed at you? Because I can imagine guys that have been playing rugby for years all sudden this football asshole comes over and hits me and I'm like,

Starting point is 00:41:28 hey mother fuckers. Hey, Nubik, hey you becker. Yeah, like the whole crowd was like, oh shit. Like they had a kickoff in this guy called it and I just broke free and I was just like laser guided to this guy and like he caught the ball. It looks up, looks at me and like tries to make a little move, but I didn't move at all.

Starting point is 00:41:46 I was just coming vertically and got right under his chest up into his chin, knocked into his face and basically just decleeded him and we went flying and fucked up his nose, nose is bleeding, everything. He took the ball and he threw it at me. He was all pissed off and you know, everybody was like, but yeah, it was totally like barely a legal hit. Let's just say barely. So there's an asshole move. So two things. First off, there's a study that I just read. Someone posted it. I want to say in the forum that shows

Starting point is 00:42:20 that there are potential brain protecting effects from eating a ketogenic diet or taking ketones post trauma. What? Yeah, so of course, we know that ketones are brain protecting. We know this from studies, but they're showing that it may be able to be applied when someone has a concussion or... Oh, it's a positive thing. Yeah, so of course that makes total,

Starting point is 00:42:46 I say you're saying that it has it. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, yeah. Well that just makes sense for information purposes, right? So it's like, after if you get a concussion, it might be a good idea to fast or go into ketogenic, die now. Now this is, it's an CBD.

Starting point is 00:43:02 I said it might, so you got to do your own research. This is based off of one thing that I read. But pretty interesting, the other thing, the other comment I have on this is this, it wasn't that long ago, maybe 60, 70 years ago that boxing was a relatively not super popular, but relatively popular thing that parents would put their boys in when there were kids.

Starting point is 00:43:23 Like if you were a young boy and you know, you could, in some schools even had boxing, where you could learn boxing and do it with self-defense. Yeah, it was just a sport. It was a sport like wrestling or football or baseball. And what it lost popularity because of the stigma of like being punch drunk, of you know, getting your face busted, all these different things. And so slowly parents started taking their kids out and the people that kept going were typically

Starting point is 00:43:50 the lower class minority groups, which is still to this day. If you go in a middle to wealthy class neighborhood, you don't find boxing gyms, but if you go to poor neighborhoods, you'll find boxing gyms until this day. Now again, you see a lot of these boxers coming through, they tend to make up, you know, come from those

Starting point is 00:44:05 those groups, whereas back in the day it was a little bit more mixed. It was still like that, but it was a little bit more mixed. And it's because of that stigma. Football is a culture, in America, it's an American culture. It's definitely a part of this country. Similar to how boxing is, just it's much more ingrained. And it's in schools, right? You play it in high school, you play it in college, there's pop warner. So major money driver for college.

Starting point is 00:44:30 It's a major, this is where you get your, this is like the feeder system, you know what I mean? It's like the top of the funnel, if you will. As more of this information comes out, as they're showing, if they keep showing CTE and high school students, I'll bet my last dollar that you're gonna see parents not let their kids.

Starting point is 00:44:50 There's already a lot of that. It's already starting to happen. Oh yeah, there's a lot of parents there. I wonder if pop honking out of football, yeah, I've talked to coaches even like from out high school and from around the area and numbers are dwindling. Already. And I think it's definitely made an impact,

Starting point is 00:45:07 you know, all this information. For sure it has. This brought the scare, you know, upon so. The question is how much will it, you know, I'm saying like, it's, it's how long will it stay? I mean, something like boxing, we've known for a long time is not healthy and we still, you still have it going on.

Starting point is 00:45:21 But it's, it's way more rare. Like, it doesn't have nearly the organization. But think of it this way. This is what you have to understand is like, and they did just study on people that, I think it was Olympic gold. If you, to win Olympic gold, taking steroids and doing all these things to your body,

Starting point is 00:45:36 if you died, if you died like six months ago. Oh, no, it said, if you knew, what was it off of? If you took something that would guarantee you gold medal, but you also would guarantee that you died like 10 years, which is less than five years. Yeah, it was a very short, short lifespan. They all said, yes, it was like 100% across the board, right? So you've got to believe that because the reward for football is so high that you almost guaranteed to be a millionaire if you make it that these people are willing to take that

Starting point is 00:46:04 risk. And that's what I'm saying. I don't think it'll disappear like boxing again, but I do think that if you're in a situation where you have more options, which middle to upper class people tend to have. Like when you have your young kid and you're poor and you got a little kid with some talent

Starting point is 00:46:21 and he likes playing football, and you look at your options, you're like, well, the public school system here's terrible. This, you know, this may be his way out. I'm gonna put him in pop Warner, I'm gonna let him play. But if you're, you know, middle class or upper class and you're looking at your kid and you're like, no, I'm not gonna let you play football.

Starting point is 00:46:36 I know you want to, but the risks are high. There's, you know, we're seeing all these studies on CT. And so I'm just saying, I think we're gonna, like Justin said, you're already seeing reduced, because it's super organized. Yeah, you're gonna see reduce, but I don't think it's gonna be as big as you think. I'm more interested in what's gonna happen with the UFC right now because of all the stuff that's coming out with that. And how dangerous that sport is and how little they make money. I was blown away by the numbers that Kyle said the other day. I didn't know it was that

Starting point is 00:47:03 bad. Like he said something like boxing is a shame. Seven. Yeah, the fighters make like 70 to 80% of the purse money and the stuff from paid for the insurance like that or whatever it is. I don't remember the stat that he gave, but it was a really high number. And I think it's on the interview we did with him.

Starting point is 00:47:17 But then he said, you have see is like crazy, the amount is such a small percentage of guys that will ever make any money doing that. But they're going to taxing on your body. But they're killing themselves trying to get to that point. So that I'm interested in where that goes. I think football won't die, dude. I think there's enough. There's more middle class to lower class people than they are. The upper class that are going to feel that way. So I don't think they're a majority. I don't know if it'll die, but I think we're seeing them. No, but it's a it's a it's a part of the culture It's a part of the culture and because because I think it's because the NFL is so powerful. Yeah, it will evolve

Starting point is 00:47:54 It won't they won't allow it to die. It is too. It is too big. It is too, but it's literally a part of our culture like it's these Our country. It's the biggest, it's the most, well, is it bigger than baseball? Yeah, it's gotta be. Is it at least popularity wise? I, you know, so, I don't know. So here's the thing with baseball.

Starting point is 00:48:14 Baseball is more profitable because it has a hundred and something. Long season. Yeah, so they can, they can make more. But which, who gets more view, I think the Super Bowl gets more views because there's one game, right? So if you were to come,

Starting point is 00:48:24 yeah, it's again, once again, World Series, yeah, so it's hard, so money wise, it might, I per game, per game, per view, per dollar, you're gonna NFL's gonna win. Yeah, it's these right there. Well, according to Wikipedia, football is the most popular, the most popular sport. Yeah, it's definitely an American tradition.

Starting point is 00:48:44 So, I mean, no other country really plays it like we do. So, we'll see what happens. And we're really starting to make a look at what we've done with the NFL in the last 10 years. Now we start with one game overseas, then it became two. Now there's like multiple games, so we're... You know what it reminds me of? It's growing before it's going the other way.

Starting point is 00:48:59 Yeah, you know what it reminds me of? It's almost like, you're in a situation where... And I hate to say this because I hate to assume this. But you're in a situation where and I hate to say this because I hate to assume this but you're in a situation where you get information you're like man I wish I didn't know that yeah you know I mean I was I liked it better when I didn't know any better I feel like that's gonna start happening with football as these studies come out you can have a lot of people like fuck well then yeah and then you're gonna get to people like say you know me for instance I like you start to think like, oh, you know,

Starting point is 00:49:25 I have CTE and you start blaming things the way you think or like, you know, like it's, it becomes a symptom, right? Yeah. It's my CTE actin' up. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You don't want it, yeah, that's a great point, Jessen. You don't want to get caught in that victim, you know,

Starting point is 00:49:43 mentality where you're, you know, everything's a consequence of some uncontrollable because let's be honest, we could all sit here and list all the shit that has happened to us and all of us will have something. That can affect us. So I think people in that category where they feel like victims, they think they're special. And yes, definitely some of us have harder lives

Starting point is 00:50:03 than others, but you're not special. Everybody's had something terrible or challenging to them. And so you don't want to live your life thinking, oh fuck, everything's a result of this, pour me because that's the outcome of that is not, it's definitely worse than if you go forward and say, no, I can do whatever I want. And nothing will stop me. I thought I read somewhere that the Organifi Gold Juice is supposed to help prevent CTEs. No, not at all.

Starting point is 00:50:29 That would be a great selling point. That's a trick. That's a trick in it by the bucket. That's a terrible product mentioned. It's a temper. You gotta do better than that. I can't. It is intense, it's an exciting.

Starting point is 00:50:41 Did you read your Organifi call this up? You guys could not make claims like that. Yeah, I love that. Have you guys been drinking it, by the way? Yeah, I have, yeah. Me and Courtney all the time, like that. I love it. It's so good. Yeah, it's just a great one to have, like, later at night.

Starting point is 00:50:58 It's anti-inflammatory, isn't it? Yeah, very much. So you could tie it to that. It could be, it could help her. You could totally speculate. You could totally speculate. Yeah, you're right. Completely speculative. You know what the fucking sub of the companies, that's what they do, man. They take something like that. Little bit information, it's anti-inflammatory and CTE could be caused because of your inflammation. Yeah, inflammation. They're for, they're for, they're for, they're for, one equals twenty.

Starting point is 00:51:16 Right, they're for, right? And equals, yes. That's common, dude. Yeah, so you know what else is funny. So, you know, my boy's twelve, right? And Puberty's starting to kick in, so it's fucking hilarious. Oh, so you know what else is funny. So you know my boys 12 right and puberty starting to kick in So it's fucking always his voice changing voice is changing. So he's already got this thing going on And I'm exaggerating a fun. I'm exaggerating, but it's like that and he's getting this little like

Starting point is 00:51:37 Little mustad. Yeah, a little peach, but you know, you don't want to get like you get him as a razor kit yet So you so my ex my ex is, he should start shaving pretty soon. And I'm like, no, it's fucking peach fuzz. I'm gonna shave. So, do you remember that when you were like 12, 13, where you had like this little peach fuzz above your lip and you thought you look cool, but you look at your old pictures,

Starting point is 00:51:57 like I'm like, well, that's like sparse, like hairs on my neck. Yeah, I'm so weird. So he's getting some of those. And then here's the best part. There's a moment when your kids hormones change their skin, biome, microbiome. Oh, they start to smell, dude.

Starting point is 00:52:16 I remember. It's a different smell. Like little kids can smell. Okay, there's a myth there that kids can't smell. Not kids can fucking say, too. But it's a difference now. When they go through puberty, I remember my... I can smell the testosterone.

Starting point is 00:52:27 I remember having this conversation with my parents when my little sister went through that, because she was young, it was early. It was earlier than what they anticipated. I'm like, Mom, I think you need to have Sarah start wearing fucking deodorant. Like, she's smiling. And they have no idea.

Starting point is 00:52:40 Yeah, yeah, right, because you're a kid, you're playing around and so with that, she's that young. She's not thinking about that, but you could tell her body odor started to change and smell like somebody who would have be, oh, and she's just this kid playing around, you don't know any better, so yeah, absolutely, there's a distinct change.

Starting point is 00:52:55 Bro, it's a smell signal, bro. It's a smell signal letting other people, you know, the opposite sex, you let them know. Yeah, like, oh, here we go, I'm starting to go through these changes or whatever kind of How weird is it and that we that we've evolved though that at one point that was probably a smell We desired and we wanted come on bro. Isn't that weird? It's what do you mean? We have one point. We do now think about it Oh, no, no, no, no

Starting point is 00:53:21 Maybe you bro. Maybe you no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You can't tell me, and maybe you don't recognize it as a bad smell, but you can't tell me your girl doesn't have a distinct smell to her, her own skin. And it's not something that smells bad to you, but you may be attracted to it. This is true. Look, I don't have, I'm not gonna argue this because this is, the studies are very clear in this.

Starting point is 00:53:43 Well, they'll have men wear a shirt and then they'll take their shirt off and then they'll have their wives trying to smell it and tell them which one is their husband that I'll be able to tell, where, you know, when you were a kid, I remember this distinctly, when I was a kid and I'd be hooking up with girls,

Starting point is 00:53:56 just smelling their hair, their skin, anything that I could smell, that smelled like it was just such a, it's all those pheromones. Yeah, see now that's funny. I remember that as a teenage boy and I, and now as a man, I don't feel the same way. So as a young boy going through puberty,

Starting point is 00:54:11 experiencing that. You were super charged, bro. Yeah, that, yeah, I agree. I get that time and I remember like smelling my girlfriend, like she would be, didn't just woke up from sleeping and her breath or everything. And most people would think that stinks. I didn't think that, I thought it smelled so good.

Starting point is 00:54:25 I grew up stuff, I'm not gonna miss. Yeah, that's it. I just wanna smell good. Way different now though. This is way different now. I was smelling everything. You wanted me to. So anyway, so I gave my son, so I told my son,

Starting point is 00:54:36 like we're gonna start wearing deodorant. So I got him the crystal one, that you know the one that that Doug got from organifi Yeah, excuse me excuse me from thrive market. Sorry thrive market has these natural You know body Products so like skin products hair products Doug got that one you got that one done Yeah, he got me the crystal deal. Oh, he got it for you for me So what the crystal does is it's salt it's these type of salts that you rub under your arm and then it prevents the

Starting point is 00:55:05 proliferation of the bacteria that tends to cause B.O. So I got them then I'm hoping that'll work with them because we like again, we read this on the plane remember I showed you I was reading a discover magazine over the last 30 years the average amount of sperm in a man's ejaculate is dropped 59% that's huge dude 59% and just 30 years right in 30 years we know testosterone our lifetime is a lot just sucking us dry bro we know testosterone levels are dropping and now and then

Starting point is 00:55:39 and now we see sperm counts are dropping and it's environmental, for sure it's environmental. 100%. All the toxins everywhere. And girls are going through puberty earlier and earlier, which can also be a result of, it could be a result of just being overweight, but it can also be a result of these hormones and foods. Yeah, dude, all the shit. And so all these skin products, the reason why I'm bringing this up is all these skin

Starting point is 00:56:01 products, hair products, deodorants, all these perfumes, clones. They all, unless they're these ones that specifically say they don't have them and they're not in their natural or whatever, they contain chemicals that are known as Xenoestrogens that can act like estrogen in the body. And you know, if you use them once, twice, whatever, it's not going to make a big deal. But if you use them over the course of, you know, five, ten years and you combine it with your hair spray and your hair gel and your perfume and your deodorant and your lotion and you start combining all these different things.

Starting point is 00:56:29 It's causing some weird, it's part of it, right? It's all the environments, really weird shit. So I'm giving them the crystal. I'm hoping you just keep us posted on how it's working. Yeah, it's crazy. It could also be mating pressures. This was something else that I was thinking about the other day where

Starting point is 00:56:45 the signs, the obvious signs of testosterone aren't necessarily as desirable as they used to be. And so maybe women aren't choosing men that way and they're mating late, but it's too soon. 30 years. It can't be that fast. It's got to be environmental. It's got to be. Bring on the beta bird. This quad brought to you by Organify. I don't know. Bring on the beta bird. days by going to organify.com. That's o-r-g-a-n-i-f-i.com and use a coupon code minepump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from sincerely jazz. What has been the hardest part of being a fit parent? You know what's funny about this is it's basically that I have no kids. Basically the

Starting point is 00:57:43 challenges you have. One funny thing. Being a fit person or similar is just amplified because parents tend to judge each other quite a bit. I first noticed this when my kid, my son, who's my oldest, played sports. So we had him play soccer. And at the end of the game, it's the obviously what happens at the end of,

Starting point is 00:58:09 these games when they're kids is a parent is picked to bring the after game snack. And never do parents bring anything that's even remotely healthy. It's almost, they treat it like it's a treat. And it's always garbage, always garbage. And I remember the first time this happened, the parents were given out, like these big old,

Starting point is 00:58:31 like massive cookies, and then this, like, it wasn't even juice, it was like, high-sea something, and gummy candies. So it's like three things. It was a cookie, gummy candies, and this drink. And so I walked over there with my son, and he's super excited. He's gonna get all three of them.

Starting point is 00:58:49 And so I told him, I don't wanna say no, but I told him, I said you have to pick one. Just pick one. And then the parent goes, oh no, there's plenty. He can have all three. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, just one only. And the parent, the mom looked at me, she's like, well, why? And I'm like, oh, it's just, it's just a lot at me and she's like, well, why?

Starting point is 00:59:08 And I'm like, oh, it's just, it's just a lot of, and I'm like, what do I say? Do I be honest? And tell her it's a lot of sugar? Or do I lie and make up some shit so I don't hurt her feelings? And so I chose to be honest. And I said, oh, it's just a lot of sugar. And she's like, oh, it's just, it's just one time. It's not a big deal. I'm like, well, I know that, but you know, it's just, you know, it's too much sugar for a man to try to make up some of the stuff and then we left. And it was, that was the first time I noticed that, that judgment that you get from other parents

Starting point is 00:59:32 because it reflects on them, I think, they feel bad about themselves. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I had the same thing with sports like that, like, you know, and the after thing. Like, I actually had to like change the whole league because they had it structured, so this ice cream company would show up.

Starting point is 00:59:50 Right after every single practice, not just every game. That's so good. Practice, dude. Every fucking practice, and then the kids had a free pass for their first ice cream. Such a great hustle. They didn't even give a shit about practicing.

Starting point is 01:00:03 All they were doing was talking about like, can I get some Gatorade and then I want to go get some ice cream. And I was like, this is toxic. It's the fuck I, like me and my wife were angry. Like we actually wrote them a letter and everything. Like this is a horrible way to set up these kids, you know, nutritionally. And like, it totally distracted us from from having a healthy activity that we're

Starting point is 01:00:26 trying to promote. Anyway, we're those asshole parents, right? We're in everybody's party. But yeah, so we just, we just like, no, so we've got to, we went into a different league and yeah, there was more parents that sort of got it, but yeah, you're just going to run into that a lot. I mean, you're going to run into, because what's normal at somebody's household is it normal in another, and that judgment also comes when you have kids stay over, you know, and

Starting point is 01:00:52 you're feeding them food, or, you know, are your kids stay out of their house, and they're feeding them like, you know, like lucky charms and shit in the morning, you know, garbage. And it's funny that we shame parents for something like this, but if you were to, like, let's say you and Courtney were on the soccer field or were with that, and you started just physically abusing each other in front of fucking everybody, people would look at you like crazy

Starting point is 01:01:17 because of the example that you're giving these kids at a formidable age, right? Or if they found out that you have this verbally abusive home and stuff like that, then you would be shamed for that. But yet, the what we feed our kids, we are setting them up for the future. And we're forming them right now, these are very formative years for them. And the way you feed them could potentially set them up

Starting point is 01:01:37 for the rest of their lives. But nobody wants to fucking talk about that. No, because why do I shame you for wanting to be a healthier or make good choices for your kid or help Help form him to be a make better choices for himself as he gets older in a manhood right now at these early ages when it probably matters The fucking most but then it's it's no logic. There's no logic It went for a parent for most parents at least parents that care about their kids the biggest insecurity that exists is am I being a good parent or am I doing things that are bad for my kids. If someone's doing something and it brings light to something that you did that was different

Starting point is 01:02:20 and you consciously know that this other parent's doing something better than you, it immediately shines a light on the sense of security of yourself where I'm not a good parent and you consciously know that this other parent's doing something better than you, it immediately shines a light on the sense of security of yourself where I'm not a good parent and you don't want to fucking deal with that. Like, you don't want to hear that. I don't, you know, if I see this parent over here, it's playing with their kids and reading them stories all the time and super engaged. My instinct to protect my own ego would be, oh God, they're doing too much stuff over there. That's so ridiculous. You don't need to do a helicopter parent.

Starting point is 01:02:45 Yeah, you know, and it's, it's, this is a big thing. It's way more common to among moms than it is among dads. Moms, I've seen this firsthand, can be terrible with this where they shame each other for doing particular things and it's, it's fucking ridiculous. And it's only just, because it's a reflection on yourself. Like, if I'm, and this is anything, it's not just food. It's vaccines, it's education, it's decisions, any kind of decision you make for your kid. If someone else makes a different decision and has their reasoning for it,

Starting point is 01:03:16 and part of the reasoning is it's better than your decision, you are immediately offended. That's your instinct. Your instinct is to be offended. Like, if I, you know, my kids go to, you know, they go to this particular school, right? If I had a parent come to me and say, oh, my kid went to that school, but, you know, I sent him to another school because that school is really bad and named a bunch of things.

Starting point is 01:03:37 Instinctually, you know, I'm gonna want to kind of be offended a little bit, like what do you mean? That, you know, I'm sending my kids to a bad school. I could sense that. I could see how that would happen You know, I'm sending my kids to a bad school. I could sense that. I could see how that would happen within me, but I'd have to kind of control it. But a lot of people are so fucking unaware. Why are we all naturally like that too?

Starting point is 01:03:52 Anyway, I'm not even a parent and I'll see, you know, so I have to admit that I still have, I have that in me. We're all look at the way someone's raising their kid and I'm like, fuck, man. Why are you not saying anything to your kid right now? He's at these important, this important age right now, and you're just allowing him to stuff candy

Starting point is 01:04:08 after a bit of candy and he's- God forbid you say something and you don't have a kid. And we'll get you destroyed. And I know that, right? Because they don't want a discussion from you, what they're gonna say to you is, you don't know because you don't have kids and a discussion, no talking.

Starting point is 01:04:21 Right, and I lose. As if you can't have a fucking opinion because you don't have kids, and there's a little bit of truth in the sense that when you have kids in a discussion, no talking. Right, and I lose. As if you can't have a fucking opinion because you don't have kids. And there's a little bit of truth in the sense that when you have kids, you can experience the full gamut of, that doesn't mean that someone else can't fucking have an opinion, especially not a fitness professional who, like what you're saying is 100% true.

Starting point is 01:04:37 It's not like you have kids and all of a sudden bad food isn't no longer bad. You don't know what you're talking about, Adam. I have children and the rules of fucking nutrition and physics don't apply anymore. Like this foods are not, they're healthy. It's absolute bullshit. I've felt this so many times.

Starting point is 01:04:51 I feel this when I go to a birthday party and I've had parents and it's funny. I don't let a bother me. You used to bother me and I would actually jab back at people and I did this once at a party. Really bad and really made someone feel terrible. And at the immediate time, I felt good about making them feel bad.

Starting point is 01:05:10 My ego felt really nice that I shut someone down, but then afterwards I feel absolutely terrible. And this is when I go to a birthday party and they'll be serving pizza or something for the kids. And they'll ask me, so you want some, why don't you eat some pizza and cake? Because you know, all the parents are eating along with it. Like, oh, no, I don't really, I ate earlier or,

Starting point is 01:05:28 no, I'm cool, I don't want any. And then they'll be like, oh, come on, man, it's just one. What's the big, you don't have to always be a fitness guy. Or one's not gonna hurt you, you're so lean. Or you look so fit. Or God, don't you miss pizza, it tastes so good. And it used to piss me off when people do that because it would put me on a spotlight

Starting point is 01:05:46 because they usually say it in front of a lot of people. And I also know where it's coming from. It's to make themselves feel better because if the fitness guy eats the pizza now they feel better for eating it. So it's their own thing. So it used to really bother me and I would always, and I would kind of

Starting point is 01:06:01 do a little jab back or whatever. And one day, man, years ago, I had a family member who was just, because I wouldn't drink a beer and was just, you know, making fun of me. Like, oh, cares, man, you could have a beer. Have some fun, man. You never loosen up, man. Why don't you just loosen up?

Starting point is 01:06:18 What's the big deal? And so I walked over to him and I pulled a shirt out of his pants. So I pulled a shirt up and I slapped him in the stomach. He's a, he's a, he's an overweight guy. And I slapped him in his belly. And I'm like, I'm like, you keep enjoying your beers, bro. And he fucking shut up. And it destroyed him.

Starting point is 01:06:34 Like the rest of the party, like he was in the corner real sad and I felt super, super bad. When I did it, I felt good. But afterwards I feel bad. So I don't let it get to me anymore. It's just people are gonna have their own challenges with it and I'm just gonna do what's best for my kids Yeah, I think that's really it's about what you Like what you hold is your standards and like in your house and like what how you operate and if people want to check you on it

Starting point is 01:06:58 Whatever that's fine, but for me. I don't I don't go around like Judging too harshly these other families in the way that they have it all structured. That's your rule system. But my kids, when they're in your environment, still, I want to maintain what I want them as far as health wise to consider. It's just like, hopefully, they respect that. of them coming in, and then I'll respect you and what you're doing with your kids the same. But let me do my thing, and then maybe, in a sense it'll affect people around me.

Starting point is 01:07:34 I feel like what we see happening right now, just in just nutrition peer, we just earlier talked about, the sweeteners and things like that. I really feel like the generation coming around is gonna be different about that. I really feel like the generation coming around like is gonna be different about that. I think it's gonna be more normal. There's more awareness.

Starting point is 01:07:49 Yeah, I think there's gonna be more normal that you go to the soccer game. And right now you guys probably feel alone. Like you're the one or two parents that like think, like, oh my god, I can't believe they're serving an ice cream here. I think real soon here, they're gonna be at least 50% of the parents are gonna feel that way.

Starting point is 01:08:03 So once that starts getting some trash through. No, it will. It's like, I mean, it's not as extreme as cigarettes, but it does. It feels like it's a stigma to me. It's just like, why would they do all this exercise and work to just go unaware? Eat a fucking huge ice cream. Bro, you even get pressure from kids because now think of this. Imagine your kid is 10 and It's your turn to bring the smacks and you bring

Starting point is 01:08:29 Fucking hell you know, yeah, you bring like strawberries and water. You're the dad who brings fucking celery celery Carrot fuck celery and carrots. Well now your fuck sell now all the all the kids like Man blueberries your dad brings crappy snacks Skip sales day dude. It's funny, skip sales day. Dude, it's funny, man. So I'll bring his coconut oil. Jett. Table spoons for everybody. Broccoli.

Starting point is 01:08:50 Hmm. Next question is from Michael Hargood. You often hear a lot about women dealing with body image issues and the many disorders it can lead to. But do you think it's becoming more common for young men to be developing these types of disorders? What would you recommend for an underweight male teen dealing with body dysmorphia? This reminds me of the interview we did with Jason Phillips. So if you haven't gone back and you listen to that interview, make sure you listen to that

Starting point is 01:09:19 interview. And I will tell you that before we interviewed him, I would have told you that maybe it's on the rise, but for sure, this is an issue that women deal with mostly. And he actually argued that and said, I completely disagree that there's as many men that deal with this issue. It's just we don't talk about it. We don't report it. Right.

Starting point is 01:09:42 We don't talk about it. We're afraid to bring it up. And so, and you're seeing to bring it up and so and you're seeing more of it come forward now and I think that's just people being allowing it to happen it's so they do study studies on this and the statistics do show that it is on the rise it's that the amount of men now that have and do you think though that it's on the rise because it's actually on the rise do you think it's on the rise because we were becoming more aware of it?

Starting point is 01:10:06 So to it could be both But I do think a large part of it is because it is on the rise and I'll tell you why When you look at the value that we place the primitive values that we place on each other man and women a woman's hierarchy in terms of her value to potential mates or whatever How healthy she appears her her body, her image, her youth is ranks higher than a man's on that ladder. A man's is typically a status. So, sense of humor, how much money you make, how alpha you are. And body is kind of up there as well. However, you often see more, you know, not so fit, not so good looking,

Starting point is 01:10:48 but very successful businessman, have the pick of the litter, if you will, when it comes to women, and you see less of the reverse. Like you don't see women who aren't necessarily attractive or not very fit, who are also successful who have their as big of a pick as the man would. So it's just valued more with women, women know know this and they've been advertised and marketed to this way much longer than men. But fast forward now, modern times, there's more of a value being placed on how a man looks,

Starting point is 01:11:17 both by women, but more so by men. Men used to not judge other men so much by their physical appearance. It was more by their physical performance, like what they could do, what they could achieve. And it's become more and more popular and how to look a particular way. And it's gotta be social media correlated and like online dating. I mean, both of those factors alone,

Starting point is 01:11:41 I would feel you presenting yourself and having to do that in a very quick fashion. So you're going to want to try and make yourself look the best and the most appealing on top of like, yeah, it might be funny or I might have all these other, you know, monetary sort of, you know, status that I have as value, but at the same time, like, you got to capture the attention. And so like this becomes an obsession for a lot of men. Now I'm sure to present themselves

Starting point is 01:12:10 at this like ultimate. The question is though, are we on a overall rise period? And that's more than anything else. Like is it? Is it? Yeah, I would argue that it's just a rise all the way around that men have always had these issues.

Starting point is 01:12:26 It's just becoming more, we're exposing it more through because of what we see happening in our society right now. And you touch on social media, man. I can't, I'm really interested to see where we are in 10 years due to things like Instagram and Facebook. I mean, I think it's doing a lot more harm than people talk about.

Starting point is 01:12:45 I think that... There's some challenges that we're going to start to see other going to become more clear. We're starting to guess and we see a little bit of it, but it hasn't been around long enough to see the clear challenges. And here's one of the psychological things that happens with social media. The part of your brain that judges where your status is, what the people around you, is actually very primitive. In fact, it can be argued that it's

Starting point is 01:13:11 one of the most primitive parts of the brain, maybe even more primitive than the part of your brain that recognizes, you know, trees or faces even. Because it's this knowing your status or whatever is present in most creatures on Earth. It's a very old thing that we all have in common. One of the signals that we use to judge our status is by what we see around us. If we live in our neighborhoods, let's imagine for a second we don't have social media,

Starting point is 01:13:40 we don't have internet and TV, and we're just walking around our neighborhoods, your point of reference is the people around you. So I'm comparing myself to my neighbors, the people I go to school with, those types of people, the people that I see every single day. And so I may see someone that's kind of fit-looking, but if I have a six-pack, for example, I'm going to stand out around the people I see. I'm not going to run into too many billionaires. In fact, I bet you can walk around your entire life

Starting point is 01:14:06 and never run into a billionaire. That's how rare they are. But if you have social media and the internet and all this stuff showing you all these things all the time, it presents this alternate reality where it's more common than you think. It's like normalcy. Yeah, like you see, like if I go through

Starting point is 01:14:21 Instagram fitness, my brain will start to perceive that there is a lot of really fucking ripped, buffed, super successful dudes. And here's what I tell people that think that, that are sucked into this world of scene and following these people that show these photos that are ripped to your round, which most of them are bullshit or not.

Starting point is 01:14:40 No doubt if you're fit, like that next level fit, you use the gym, right? Just pay attention when you're in the gym next time. Look at the gym, look around, actually look. And that's even biased, right? That's where I'm sitting. That's where I'm sitting. That's my point, right?

Starting point is 01:14:54 It's already extremely biased because all fit people are going to the gym pretty much, right? I mean, for a majority, right? Unless you're doing something else as your way of fitness. But I'm talking like the super shredded that we're posting on Instagram, my credit. And look around your gym and find one of those people. You'll be lucky to find one for sure two or three

Starting point is 01:15:10 and you're in the place where they all would be at. So just shows you how rare it really is. It is, I mean, if I think about it this way, if I'm super into basketball and I'm just always looking at these guys, looking at these guys, looking at these guys, my brain, whether I know consciously or not, my brain, the primitive part of my brain that tells me where my status is in society or my, which, that's a very important thing,

Starting point is 01:15:32 by the way. If you have a very low status, perceived low status in society, that changes your brain chemicals, it changes how you walk, how you talk, how assertive you are, how many risks you take. And when you start to exude that, it actually limits your opportunities as well, because when I exude less confidence, I'm gonna, less people are gonna give me less opportunities. So it's just like positive feedback loop

Starting point is 01:15:56 where it gets worse and worse and worse and worse and worse. So it's very, very important, but if I'm looking all the time on Instagram or social media at all these massive basketball players, I may think to myself like, man, there's some fucking tall dudes like I'm just not that tall, I'm a short guy. Walk around how often have you ever run into a seven foot guy? I think in my entire life, if I exclude going to an NBA game twice, one time in my entire life, I think I saw a guy that was seven foot.

Starting point is 01:16:23 That's how rare it is. So it's unfair to compare yourself to all these people that you see in social media and stuff because it creates this bullshit, you know, like status in your mind. You're like, oh wow, I'm worthless. I don't look anything like the people in the magazines or on the social media. I don't have nearly the success. I'm reading this story about this 25 year old who just became a millionaire who invented something. Like, I'm an idiot, obviously, because I can do that, and I'm already, you know, however old you are, like it's just not fair, and so there's two parts of this. One is consciously remind yourself of that, that's one.

Starting point is 01:17:03 And the other part is to acknowledge that there's an unconscious part that's out of control for you, and that the only way to influence that subconscious or that unconscious part of you is to limit your the amount of time you spend on social media. Like be smart with the time that you spend on it. Don't sit there in waste time, flipping through pictures and just reinforcing that.

Starting point is 01:17:26 One way to do that is to evaluate the people that you're following them and why you're following them. So most people that have an insecurity like this don't even realize it, but they're making it worse because they're following these people that they want to look like. And so unfollow all this. Like if you've got 300 people you follow,

Starting point is 01:17:44 or more, and 80% of them are these people that look the way you want to be. They provide you no other balance. Yeah, and they provide, you know, get rid of that shit. Like, stop following those people. Like, you know, and I'm not saying that you can't follow your favorite fitness person who motivates you. Like, that's fine. If you've got one or two people like that, but do you really need a hundred fitness people that post images of themselves and with their shirt off or in a bikini every single day? Like, are they really providing value

Starting point is 01:18:10 or they are feeding something that's an addictive to you and that's an insecurity of yours? You gotta really ask yourself that because I feel like somebody like this, like myself, who went through body dysmorphia, we've talked about our own insecurities growing up. You know, of course, I'm looking at all the magazines. Like, that's the worst thing that this guy,

Starting point is 01:18:27 a kid like me should do. If I think I'm already super skinny and I feel insecure about that, then I'm reading all these magazines and that aren't really providing very good information for me and it's just a bunch of pictures of guys I really wanna look like. Meanwhile, there are genetic anomalies

Starting point is 01:18:41 and on top of that, they're taking steroids. So, stop feeding your So stop feeding this potential addiction that you have to this look that you want. So get rid of that. That would be my first advice to a teen because more likely if you're a teen, I'm sure you're inundated with all this social media bullshit

Starting point is 01:18:58 and start following people that are providing that. I'd tell you what, if you wanna build, because he said, what do we recommend to an underweight male teen with body just more? I tell you what, if you want to build, because he said, what do we recommend to an underweight male teen with body dysmorphia? I tell you what, if you're into working out, you're into lifting weights. Obviously, we have programs I highly recommend

Starting point is 01:19:12 because we wrote them, we know they're good. But if you love reading about this kind of stuff and you really want, but you also are aware that you don't feel so good about yourself with, you know, like you said, body dysmorphia, buy the old books, go and get the old ones written by like Eugene Sandow and, you know, all these strong men from before steroids because although they are very muscular and they look incredible, they're all much more realistic and the advice you'll get from them is probably

Starting point is 01:19:39 better anyway. Next question is from Mike Fisek. How do you feel about popular fitness influencers helping people reach their fitness goals since they may or may not be taking her from what a nice transition. What a natural transition. Same group of people here.

Starting point is 01:19:57 I have no problem with people helping other people reach their fitness goals as long as the, and of course, they're free to do it. So I wouldn't want to force them to stop anything, but I have no problem for shitty people doing it too. It's a free market, it's your choice. But personally, personally, when I see bad information, when I see, here's what I hate, I really hate this, and we're talking about the body this more.

Starting point is 01:20:22 If you're on gear, don't say that you're not. Maybe you don't say anything at all, but there's a lot of people on there that are like, oh no, I'm all natural and I'm this and I'm that. And it's like, but you're not, like, be honest a little bit. You're just a little bit of water. Yeah, just be honest,

Starting point is 01:20:37 because it's almost like you're trying to make yourself look better by saying that you're not on them. And I know, I'm in the industry, I know many of these people who are we knew one personally who got you know Preached about how naturally was and then we met his freaking steroids supplier And he's like actually no he takes a shit ton of gear right and it's like come on man It's like are you that insecure that you can't fucking admit like you know what you're doing? Absolutely ridiculous. So I don't I it doesn't bother me like it probably used to bother me or like maybe the rants that we've gone on this show because you let's be honest like

Starting point is 01:21:08 because of all the bad fitness information and terrible fitness professionals get or people that call them fit professionals but really all they are just somebody on their IG that looks good and bekeening or looks good fucking inside the gym They've proven that they can get them self-inshape. I mean it's there's an epidemic of this happening within fitness. So, I mean, when you look at a majority of the people putting out information, it's somebody who has put enough discipline and work into getting themselves in phenomenal shape, and now they've considered themselves a fitness professional or they're providing fitness advice, and they're making a lot of money doing it online. Now, that doesn't make me angry.

Starting point is 01:21:44 All it did for me a few years ago when I saw how crazy this was was show that there's an opportunity. I saw an opportunity that, wow, a majority of these people giving, and I say a majority because there are still some people out there that are providing really valuable content that's out there. They're just the minority. And so, it provided an opportunity for MindPump. I mean, if it wasn't for all these shitty people giving advice, we wouldn't have a really good, we wouldn't have a platform or a business right now. We really wouldn't because it's because of all the shitty information out there. And I think that's how somebody should handle it.

Starting point is 01:22:17 Instead of getting angry about it, shaming them, fucking hating on them, like do something about it, provide some really good information for people out there and be that light, you know, and it's just, and know that it's tougher that way because you're not using all the tricks that they're using to get people to follow and pay attention. But I don't really, I don't really hate on it. I don't really have this like, you know, fuck I can't believe they're doing that. Of this, it's like, well, yeah, it's definitely on the consumer. It's on the person that's seeking information from people like us being able to provide more education definitely helps and more people that are out there, kind of addressing this issue just to provide better information is obviously going to be the best way to do it. But the thing is people that get in super awesome shape like that, a lot of times the next thing that follows that

Starting point is 01:23:11 is all these people are watching. And they want to go in that same exact formula that got them there. And so it's like, they're going to hit them up constantly. Oh, what'd you do? What'd you do? It's just human nature to kind of see somebody go through a metamorphosis like that and think

Starting point is 01:23:27 that that's going to directly apply to their lives. So you're free to do whatever you want, but I'm going to call it out. Some of you are slimy. Some of you fitness influencers are slimy. Just to let it take advantage of that. Slimy, lying, you know, fucks, and I can't, and I love calling you out because, you know, you could shine, shine some light on that slime

Starting point is 01:23:49 and it usually will, you know, it'll die. Like, I'll give you a great example, okay? Whenever the Kardashians give fitness information, I wanna rip my hair out of my head because here they are, the worrying, you know, squeams or, you know, waist trainers. Extremely dangerous. Have nothing to do with fitness.

Starting point is 01:24:07 Oh, look what I did to get this wonderful weights. Or look at these exercises they did to get my wonderfully round butt, which in reality they bought. They went to this, they went and got butt implants, but they're lying and telling girls that these are the exercises and this is the workout that I do.

Starting point is 01:24:21 It's just slimy. Yeah. It's just lying and slimy. And I don't like anybody in anywhere that just lies and is slimy. Well, I think that, I think that way makes all of us upset. I think that's an extreme example of the question here because I think there's more people. Well, I mean, then the whole common like,

Starting point is 01:24:36 hey man, I took these pills and got, and lost 25 pounds of body fat, got shredded. Or, hey man, this is the exercise I did that got my legs up to, you know, this big or my arms is big in four weeks. Yeah, yeah, buy, you or, hey man, this is the exercise I did that got my legs up to, you know, this big or my arms is big in four weeks. Yeah, yeah, by, you know, by this, by that. I think this, this is going to die soon too. So when Instagram came out, there was this huge flux like from companies like shreds that came out. A lot of my peers in the NPC, IFBB world, it was really common. Once you, one of you shows,

Starting point is 01:25:05 it got a little bit of a following, a supplement company picked you up, and then now every other post is a picture of you taking your supplements, after your post workout, and then here's my coupon code, swipe up, and all this stuff. You still see it, but I think it's dying.

Starting point is 01:25:21 95% of those people that you see doing that don't make fucking shit. They make hardly any money doing that. So, I think they're even figuring out. I think it was like one of those things monkey-seeing monkey-do. They see all these people doing it. And he's big and he's popular. Oh, this is the route.

Starting point is 01:25:38 I see, you know, so and so, who's, you know, Mr. Olympia and he's got all these followers and he's promoting his supplement company and his t-shirt, all these companies. Like, dude, those guys don't you know, Mr. Olympia, and he's got all these followers, and he's promoting his supplement company and his t-shirt, all these companies, like, dude, those guys don't make shit, dude. They don't make heartily anything. They're most of them are living at home still with mom and dad, and flashing the pants. Right.

Starting point is 01:25:55 And I think people are starting to figure that out. Like, slowly but surely, that's getting exposed, and they're starting to put it together that that's not the route. And I think that we're gonna see. Plus, there seems to be some backlash. Right. Are you starting to see some backlash work?

Starting point is 01:26:07 I used to see these ads and underneath it people would ask questions and get excited. Now I'm seeing people underneath it going, this is bullshit or why would you say that? That doesn't work. I love it. Well, you said this before, so on, it's such a great point that mind pump

Starting point is 01:26:22 could have came out three years ago and been keto pump, know and could have been the name of it and then we attached ourselves to a keto supplement and we probably would have made more money faster than we have right now that route but it's not the long game no no no it's not the long game at all by doing something like that but that's a way to take advantage of the market the market is telling you right now and we called that to way back when that, watch what happens with Keto, watch all the supplements came out. You know, we're not like bunch of geniuses. A lot of other people saw that too, and they were smart when you, from a business standpoint,

Starting point is 01:26:56 they attached themselves to it, they attached to a supplement. They're probably making a fuck ton of money right now. Eventually, that stuff will shift also. And when it does shift, you know, you're gonna see companies like ourselves that have stayed around still because of that, versus people, those same people will probably hop to the next trend.

Starting point is 01:27:12 So this gimmicks, man, you know, like you just gotta be real informed as a consumer, whether or not this is feels and smells like a gimmick. It's probably the case. Next question is from Ev Dunn. Tom Brady has a sleepwear line with biosurremic material that was supposedly release your body's mechanisms to enhance recovery.

Starting point is 01:27:33 Do you give this any clubs? Speaking of wartime gimmicks. I know. Great, great. I mean, we didn't plan these questions as well. I just kind of naturally float into each other. It's nice. I'm glad we're talking about this.

Starting point is 01:27:44 We got the Super Bowl coming up this weekend with Tom Brady a lot of stuff around him Around his diet around his his exercise routine that he's doing and the latest thing is his partnership with under armor and Yes, yes, bio ceramic material that puts off Infrared right now here is an example and this is why I really liked when we interviewed the Juve guys and print, bio ceramic material that puts off infrared. Now, here is an example, and this is why I really like to when we interviewed the Juve guys, and they really put me onto this game, right? Like, I'd heard of infrared before,

Starting point is 01:28:15 and I'd heard that there's some positive benefits behind it, and they talk about that there's a difference between, you know, the positive benefits that you hear, a lot of these companies making money off, and then like the therapeutic dose of infrared and what some of these like high-end infrared, like, jove or infrared sonas are producing. And so, and that's what he put us on to, was like, listen, again, like science always does, some good science comes out, we find out that infrared has these positive business for circulation and for skin and for recovery.

Starting point is 01:28:45 And then so everybody starts jumping on these red lights because it looks like infrared. Well, no, and you are getting some of that. So if you're getting some of that, I can claim those benefits. This is an example of that, right? Yes, it is. So far infrared or infrared is a form of radiation.

Starting point is 01:29:00 And whenever you, most materials will do this, by the way, if you heat them up with your body, they'll reflect it back and some of it will come back as this infrared radiation. Now, there are studies that show that far infrared has some potential benefits. Again, if you look back, if you want, you can go back and listen to our episode where we interview the founders of Juve,

Starting point is 01:29:23 they cite some of these studies. And they are legit when it comes to skin issues, when it comes to, there's some interesting stuff with testosterone, there's some interesting stuff with recovery, but you gotta have a certain dose, okay? So I'm gonna use another analogy, just so this makes sense. We all know that X-rays are can-be-carsinogenic, right?

Starting point is 01:29:41 You don't wanna go get blasted with a bunch of X-rays all in a row because we know that that is not good for your body. So it's like you break your wrist, you go to the doctor, they X-ray. And there's a certain amount of X-rays that have to come through that machine in order to create that X-ray image. Did you guys know that when you peel clear tape,

Starting point is 01:29:58 when you peel open the clear tape or whatever you take off the roll, it actually produces X-rays? No, I didn't. It does. The act of ripping the tape off and the glue creates X-rays. Look this up, this is common science. Is that static electricity feeling that you get when you tear open still like that?

Starting point is 01:30:13 I get that when I knit mine. That's a different, but it does produce X-rays. And I think peeling a banana creates X-rays. Are they going to cause cancer in you or they carcin'? No, the dose is so goddamn small, it doesn't even count. So this material that they're creating on these clothes, they're mixing it with the ceramic material. Supposedly it emits, you know, far infrared radiation

Starting point is 01:30:37 back at your body. Most materials. It smells a lot like good marketing to me. Yep, yep. Oh no, it's brilliant marketing. Because all they have to do is show the science that one little aspect. All they have to do is show the science that one little aspect. All they have to do is say, here's the studies that show that infrared improves these

Starting point is 01:30:50 different things. And then they have to show, here's the study that shows that our clothing creates far infrared. And then that's it. They don't have to say anything else. Everybody else does their own, they deduce that, right? Oh shit, study says it works. This creates it.

Starting point is 01:31:03 Therefore, this is what I'm going to do. It doesn't work that way. Here's another example I could create right now a homeopathic Supplement that contains testosterone a hundred percent. I could sell it would be perfectly legal so homeopathic products contain Microns of an effective ingredient so what they would do is they would take like 1 milligram of testosterone and they would do is they would take like one milligram of testosterone and they would throw it in, let's say,

Starting point is 01:31:28 a swimming pool full of water and then they would extract that and then they'd say, okay, this teaspoon of water has some testosterone. Of course it does. A super, super, super, super small amount because one gram was thrown in this entire swimming pool and that's what homeopathic medicine is. This, but if I can do shit for you,

Starting point is 01:31:47 obviously, it's a mid placebo. Well, I won't do shit for you because not enough. Take it a step further. This is just, again, brilliant marketing by Under Armour. What do you do when you think it, like, I bet you they came up with this product because of the response that everyone's thinking about, oh my God, Tom Brady's 40 years old.

Starting point is 01:32:02 Everyone's talking about what is he doing. What is he gonna be having some kind of crazy recovery? Right, you think that he's been using that shit for the last 10 years? Get the fuck out of here, that product just was, that product was just created last week, dude, or whatever it was, like he hasn't been using that to get him to where he's at right now.

Starting point is 01:32:17 His diet has a much bigger role, and he does have an interesting diet. I don't think it's a special diet. I don't think everybody's gonna do that diet and get the same effects, but I think what he does have an interesting diet. I don't think it's a special diet. I don't think everybody's going to do that diet and get the same effects. But I think what he's identified with his diet is that he's identified foods that he has immune responses to or intolerances to and eliminating those reduced his inflammation, which is true. You do that with anybody. You take out the foods that their body has immune response to. They're going to have less inflammation.

Starting point is 01:32:41 The clothes? No. I don't think so. Unless I see a study that shows that this particular piece of clothing is producing these effects, don't show me a study that shows that it produces a little bit of information. Don't show, yeah, don't show me a study that shows that infrared has all these positive benefits and then show that your shirt has infrared and that's how much infrared.

Starting point is 01:32:59 It's reflective materials, not even producing infrared. No, a lot of clothing will actually do that. So, yeah, sorry, it's gimmicky. But, Under Armor will sell a shit ton because he's a bad ass. He's a phenom. Commercials are awesome. He's the second best quarterback of all.

Starting point is 01:33:15 And when he wins this next... I wish that were true, Sal. Yeah, sorry. When he wins this next Super Bowl, again, for sure. That's what he's saying. Definitely by stock. And I bet you we see this commercial during Super Bowl for sure. So I mean, do you guys think that

Starting point is 01:33:29 there'll be some backlash though? With this particular shirt. No, you don't think so. Not all. No, bro. Okay. Here's why. Do you perform this as a different category? Like, you know, when you go to the sports, like that's the thing. There's all this gimmicky. Well, remember that it's well, so he was do you know that part of this started from that he was wearing a sleeve for remember the copper Yeah, copper He was wearing a sleeve to help speed up recovery on like one of his shoulders I don't remember elbow or something that happened and so it that had that helps promote this right so and now this is the The full body suit going into bed or your pajamas or whatever

Starting point is 01:34:06 that has all of it. And here's the thing though, here's the argument for it, is that it's gonna be more positive than negative. Like, if you think it works. Right, right, if it gives a little bit of positive benefits, it's still better than none. And so if you're somebody who has the money to just kind of throw, and that's how I feel

Starting point is 01:34:27 about a lot of supplements. Yeah, they ain't gonna hurt you. Yeah, like if you got, and that's why it'll do okay because it's not good. It actually made detriment because we do know this. I'll make this bed all day long, is that good sleep is more important than infrared, far infrared rays you're gonna get from your pajamas.

Starting point is 01:34:44 And we know statistically speaking studies will show that sleeping with less clothing on is better than sleeping with more clothing on for sleep quality. So there you go. So if you wanna save some money and fucking get more anabolic and recover, yeah, sleeping your underwear or sleep naked.

Starting point is 01:35:00 Balls free. And that's 100% proven to improve sleep quality. So that's a good way to argue. But under armor, you got some other good stuff, so if you wanna talk to mine pump, give it a go. Hahaha. Anyhow, check keep shooting. Check it out, go to our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV.

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