Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 698: Using Pause Reps to Build More Muscle, How to Break Bad Habits, Why Weights Sometimes Feel Heavier than Usual & MORE

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Starting point is 00:00:38 Celebrity endorsed products or shams. Tom Brady. We talk about the Juve light. This is the far infrared light that Adam is using on his skin at the moment. If you go to Juve. That's j-o-o-v-v.com forward slash mind pump, they'll actually give you a massive discount.

Starting point is 00:00:58 We also talk about the Amazon, Berkshire Hathaway and JP Morgan Healthcare combination so they're coming together. They're trying to create a new healthcare System for Amazon employees very destructive look out Kaiser very exciting. Let's see what happens Look here she comes make a lithic. Oh, that one just yep. Well, here she comes. There she is We'll watch out boss. She'll cheer you out. I you love that yeah, we talk about how Adam Adam He'd even know this happened first one out of all of us that made it to Joe Rogan boom He has mad he didn't even know what I was your daddy and he appeared on the Rogan show We had a little pot going on just so you guys all know I won right there first person to get on Joe Rogan

Starting point is 00:01:41 He won the pot Then we talk about the Organifi Cermet Blend, which is the Green Juice and Gold Juice, and the Christmas Blend, which is the Red Juice and Green Juice. If you mix them up, you get different effects, different flavors. Try it out yourself. If you go to OrganifiShop.com and enter the code

Starting point is 00:01:59 MindPump Without A Space, you'll get a discount. Then I talked about my weight gain or shake recipe that I had this morning. It's like 800 calories of pure creamy awesomeness. Beef cake. Then we talked about sex shops and Christmas gifts. Don't we always. Trust me, you want Adam at your white elephant party.

Starting point is 00:02:20 Oh yeah. Then we get other questions. The first question was, what are the benefits? It's big as a white elephant. What are the benefits of pause wraps? This is when you're taking your repetition through its normal range of motion and then you stop You stop halfway through or at the bottom or at the top or something Are there benefits of that or are you just looking funny in the gym? That's really the question

Starting point is 00:02:39 Oh, I can't do it. Oh, I can the next question was when you're training Oh, I can't do it. Oh, I can. The next question was, when you're training, how come sometimes everything feels super heavy, and on other days you feel like everything's super light? What the hell is going on? Is it recovery, is it nutrition? Is it the full moon that might have an effect on you?

Starting point is 00:02:59 Oh, it could be that. It's the tide. We had the blood moon, right? 200 years? We did. It's that time. Bloody moon. It's that man's station. The next question was, how would you break a bad habit?

Starting point is 00:03:10 You know, Justin goes into a personal experience, how he's the bite his toenails. How did he stop biting? That's pretty flexible. He had to give me that. Or is he still doing it? I'll give you a little clue. He just started biting other people's toenails.

Starting point is 00:03:23 I'm not kidding. And the final question, what are our thoughts on the best personality types for those in the fitness industry? Like what category of personalities of people do the best in fitness? Usually the ones that aren't assholes. Is it extroverts? Is it introverts? Is it? Is it? Is it nymphomaniacs? One of those three. Oh, so Masels make it. We pick one of those three. Also, we mentioned Maps Prime a lot in this episode. Now listen, it's like, listen, why do you not have this? I don't care.

Starting point is 00:03:55 It's offensive. What workout you're doing? Money by guaranteed. I do not care what workout you're doing. I mean, I do care, but you can choose to do whatever you want. You can do whatever workout you want. By not having it, you're seeing fuck you, mind-pull. Prime.

Starting point is 00:04:06 This would actually make CrossFit, okay. That's it. Prime can make any workout you're doing. I don't agree with that statement. Better. So it's like a pre-workout, except it works, and it's less expensive. You get maps, prime.

Starting point is 00:04:20 It teaches you how to prime your body properly for your workout. So it teaches you what to do before your workout based on your own body's movement patterns. Yes, it is totally individualized, 100% to your body. Once you prime your body properly, now you're gonna squeeze out more out of your workout.

Starting point is 00:04:38 So think of it this way. Imagine if your potential is 100. Well, you're probably only getting 70 out of your workout. Maps Prime could help you get that full potential out of your workout. It's just really adding what you do before your workout. So throw your normal warm up away and do some priming and do it the right way. Get that 100. Now, if you have any questions on Maps Prime or any of our other programs and bundles,

Starting point is 00:05:03 because we have quite a bit. Here's what you do, you go to mindpumpmedia.com, click on the program, you have the question on, there'll be a friendly video with a super good looking guy who's gonna explain to you what the program is. Awesome dad here. All about and if you're serious, then enroll. Again, mindpumpmedia.com. Okay, we're gonna play a short game

Starting point is 00:05:24 between Adam and Justin You guys are gonna be competing. Okay, okay soon as this these songs come on. Oh, come on You know, no, this one should be close to fair. It's not even a fair game. Hold on. I'm gonna give you two points already cool We'll play we'll play fucking wow NBA and NFL trivia afterwards. I was gonna idea So you're already two points ahead of Justin. Oh, already? Yeah, I'm gonna give you a bus. Well, come on, dude.

Starting point is 00:05:49 I have a handicap. Yeah, that's affirmative action with this. We're gonna get a fucking reaction. We're gonna get it. I don't want that fucking handout. Let's go. I'm zero zero. Let's go.

Starting point is 00:05:58 All right, here we go. Oh my God. Here we go. Transformers. Very good we go. Transformers. Very good, Justin. Transformers it is. I just guessed. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:11 Oh, did you? Yeah. What? That's obviously, is either Voltron or Transformers. All right, here we go. Ready? What are we doing right now? You have to guess the cartoon.

Starting point is 00:06:19 Oh, next one. Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo. Oh, master's universe. Oh, it's Voltron. That is Voltron. Yeah. Very good. Just this two zero. Hold on. I'll find the next one. We'll do two more in them. Dude, I was watching these all night last night just losing my mind. Here's a hard one. Here's a hard one. This one's tough. You might not know this Wasn't as popular Same same years. Yeah, Samara. Oh

Starting point is 00:06:56 My god mask. Yes, yeah Remember that cartoon was crazy. You mask. Did you ever watch masks? So I didn't remember mask either. And then I'm watching, I found this video, this YouTube video, it's called Ultimate 80s and 90s Retro Cartoon Intro. So I'm watching this and I'm like freaking out

Starting point is 00:07:19 because you're just getting all these weird feelings that you had when you kid. And mask was one that I didn't watch a lot of. So it wasn't something that was part of my memory. Oh, shit. I had all the action figures and everything. Bro, that was a sick cartoon. I'm looking at the intro.

Starting point is 00:07:30 I'm like, did it a good job. You know, cartoon's stuck nowadays. Let's just talk about that for a second. Yeah, me and my kids watch all the old movies. All right, Adam. You ready? Get fast. Get fast.

Starting point is 00:07:41 I might just give you this one. Get fast, okay. He man come on. Yeah, that's too easy. That's all right. I had just give you this one. Get fast. Okay. He man come on I was I was watching like duck tails tail spin gummy bears fucking GI Joe Feel Next man I looked all the X-Men cartoon. I was like the power power ballad of Power-Gym. Did you guys, so there were the prototypical male cartoons when we were kids, right? There was a he-man, she had a gym. Jim came on after that, and you're like,

Starting point is 00:08:13 yes, turn this shit. Really? I like Jim. I mean, there's truly outrageous. She what? I like Jim, I like watching Jim. I had a crush on Jim. I never even seen that one.

Starting point is 00:08:22 She really. What was your first, so this took me down a rabbit hole of looking up old TV shows and shit. And I remembered my first celebrity crush, my very first one, punky Brewster. Yeah, punky, really? So lay a moon fry. So lay a moon fry.

Starting point is 00:08:39 Her parents weren't hippies at all. Do you guys remember punky Brewster? Of course. I do remember. I didn't really have a thing for her though. Oh, I do. Who was your first crush? I more had a thing for that robot chick.

Starting point is 00:08:49 Remember that one that would like a lift thing? Oh, oh shit, hold on, let me think. God, what was the song to that? I don't know. She's small wonder. Small wonder. Small wonder, that's it. Oh, shit.

Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah. Damn. As a young boy, I didn't have a celebrity crush. I was never really the only one on TV, no girl on TV. The high school, I like my eighth grade, ninth grade, I had the Britney Spears crush because of everybody had that. This fucking school dress outfit, it's on that she came out on that was game. Well, yeah, that was the best because like everybody had a plaid skirts after that.

Starting point is 00:09:23 And I was like, thank you. Yes, the tall socks were this influence. She did do something nice for the society. Before that though, I really did, and even today, like, really before that, you didn't have any. I'm just, I don't follow, but you didn't watch TV and there was a girl or something that you were like, no, or a guy, whatever, we're not gonna judge you.

Starting point is 00:09:41 No. I didn't, I mean, of course I watch shows and watching, you know, she's hot of this, but you know, a lot of people, especially when we were younger, I mean, they had posters of people, their crushes and things, you know, in their room, like that was a cool thing. Oh man.

Starting point is 00:09:56 The only one I would think is like, like Kelly from, say by the bell. Say by the bell. Did it in it in it in it? I had, so I actually had posters. I had two of them. Really? Yeah, I did.

Starting point is 00:10:10 I have two of them and I never put them up because I see, I was too known, I'm not punky Bruce, so that's when I was really young. So that's when I was just, I didn't even know it was a crush. I was just like, what's this weird feeling? I have my loins, but there was, there were two posters that I got from,

Starting point is 00:10:24 do you remember the carnival when it would come into town? It would be at a school, the, you know, the gangsta went right with the zipper. Yeah. And they always had that game where you could throw the dart into the balloons and get a poster. I was really good at that game. Everybody was, the balloons were all next to each other.

Starting point is 00:10:37 Like you guaranteed to get a poster. Basically, they're selling you put shit posters for five bucks, so it's five dollars of throw dart. So anyway, I got, I figured that out later on. Wait a minute. Yeah, I can go buy this. So anyway, I remember I got to get posters for five bucks. It was five dollars of throw dart. So anyway, I figured that out later on. Wait a minute. I can go buy this. So anyway, I remember I got two posters because this, and this is my first time

Starting point is 00:10:50 like actually buying something of like a girls that I thought were attractive. So I must have been 12. I was too embarrassed to put them up, but it was two girls. It was Debbie Gibson and Tiffany. Remember Tiffany? Oh wow.

Starting point is 00:11:03 The mall tour. Remember that? 1980, whatever. I don't even know if they're hot. Before there was, there used to be a store and I can't think of the name of it, but it was before Spencer's, but it was like the Spencer's before Spencer's,

Starting point is 00:11:13 the stuff that kind of had like the edgy stuff. And as a kid, I had bought all the posters. Remember when the posters, they used to be on the, you could flip through them. Yeah. And you can see what they were underneath, oh, E16, I went that one.

Starting point is 00:11:25 So I had a lot of posters in my room, but they were all like, new kids in the block. No, no, no, no, no, no. I was all into the models and shit, dude. So they were all like hot shit. Oh, so who was your favorite model? I didn't have it, see, but I was- Justy Brinkley.

Starting point is 00:11:38 I mean, I had Carmen Electra up there, and I had Camille Ireland, Camille Anderson, and I didn't have a lot of like big name girls that I was into. It was like the poster school. And of course it was like some girl scrubbing a Ferrari in her. You know, it's wash you. For sure, I had like six different posters just like the white snake girl. It's like washing the red Ferrari.

Starting point is 00:12:04 It's soap bubbles all over tits Like I remember my parents were pissed when I was with the days. Yeah, innocent days Yeah, well that was like I mean that was I had I had I had I memorized you know, so I had like that I had no I had no posters or girls up because I was embarrassed to put them up But instead I have pictures of fucking bodybuilders up so you can imagine My parents to kind of like wow Yeah, it's just great. I'm worried my boy. I know he likes the reading psychopedias and look Buff men buff greasy guys. Yeah, yeah anyway. Yeah, I remember Kathy Ireland was really she was fucking you

Starting point is 00:12:38 Oh, do you see any proper? Yes, thank you. Yeah, she's she remained hot, you know, even into her, whatever, now, 50, 60s. She was, I'm trying to remember who was like the ultimate hot. Then there was that music video by Chris Isaac. I have. What is that sh-fuck? What's that video?

Starting point is 00:12:57 Yeah. I never feel this way. Yeah, that one, that one. I feel this way. Whatever, that one. Yeah, that one. You feel this way. Whenever the girl's name is. Oh my God, I remember that. No. Yeah, that one.

Starting point is 00:13:11 Oh, no falling. The girl that was in that video made me lose my mind. She was very, very, well. I can't believe you can remember songs like that on. Pro, I, it took me a second. I ran them talent. I probably, this is my only talent. I'm pretty sure. I am talent. You know, I probably this is my only talent. I'm pretty sure

Starting point is 00:13:26 Yes, my wife Why ask her? I don't ask I I'm getting 100% use the image of that video several times. Wow. Yeah, growing up Use that video motivation, huh? motivation Yeah, a lot of motivation Stand up material if I've if I'm ever on a game show and they give me that let they tell me like right down the name Huh? For motivation. A lot of motivation. Some stand up. If I've ever on a game show and they give me,

Starting point is 00:13:48 they tell me, right down the names of people you want to call in case we need you to answer a good question, you're for sure on there, Justin. Okay, I mean, for sure. Oh yeah, for that stuff. Yeah, you're a good friend too, Adam. Very supportive, like you're a fucking, you're my boy. But you would be.

Starting point is 00:14:03 I'm a sports-tripping guy, you gotta get a good reason on that. I give you that the sport, that's true. You could my boy. But you would be- Sports-tripping, I gotta get a quiz on that. I give you that the sport that's true. You'll be probably kills me, I guess. We would do the sports-tripping. Yeah, we never even go that way, because you don't even know where to ask for a quiz. I know. He's, let's play a game.

Starting point is 00:14:13 Let's do music, because I look at him in harmonies. I'm not kidding, but I can't ask you a fucking sports-tripping. I got a question. I was actually, you know what's, which ball is the one that you bounce with your hands? Let's go. Yesterday, with Mike Matthews, we got into some sports. I didn't realize that he was a sports fan.

Starting point is 00:14:31 I thought he was such a nerd like you that he didn't watch any sports, but he still is nerd, but he's not. Yeah, that kind of. He's a little bit cooler. He's got some sports in his mouth. Yeah, it was actually pretty cool to be able to talk to him a little bit about that. We talked about the Tom Brady stuff. You know, God, I was he gonna tell you guys about that?

Starting point is 00:14:48 Somebody brought something up to me. Son of a bitch, it was regarding the shirt. Morb I was training in his shirt. Yeah, it was more around, along those lines, I forgot what the fuck I wanted to tell you guys. I hate that when I have something that I wanna tell you guys, like the night before, I'm like, oh, I gotta remember that.

Starting point is 00:15:00 I gotta remember that. This is just talking about the technology of it and the lack of technology. Yeah, that. We were, I never read. And we were just talking about everything his whole protocol and everything he's doing because it never fails. You know, when somebody, somebody super famous like this gets, you know, puts out their

Starting point is 00:15:17 diet, their routine. Yeah. Wow, he's really good. He's handsome. And he has a supermodel wife. Uh, whatever you're doing, let's go ahead and package that. I always wonder too. So did Under Armour have the idea

Starting point is 00:15:30 that they wanted to create this technology? Or did they have the foresight to say, Tom Brady's 40 years old, he's broken all these records, people are gonna be like, how are you doing it? That's been the buzz on the radio for the last two years. How's Tom Brady having some of the best games of his life at this age? HRV isn't that sexy.

Starting point is 00:15:51 Right, so I always wonder what else did under Armour go, let's create a product that we can attach to them versus let's come up with this revolutionary product and then find somebody to market it. I believe they, I don't think they broke. I don't think they invented some revolutionary product and then tried somebody to market it. I believe they... I don't think they broke. I don't think they invented some revolutionary product and then tried to come up with it. No, I think they actually make a deal with Tom Brady

Starting point is 00:16:11 and think, how can we create a product that aligns with his message? Of course, yeah. He sat in a meeting together and then just like, mind map. A hundred percent think about it. You have an athlete who is defying the odds is very well-liked and you're thinking yourself, what can we create around this and attach to him? Now, you're a clothing company, so the obvious answer is cool clothes.

Starting point is 00:16:35 But there's nothing different about that. And there's nothing about the clothes that you could hint towards better performance. And everybody's talking about his performance. So it makes sense that that's what I would do if I was in this being like what product can we come up with that's clothing, but that also could potentially contribute or we could say contributes to performance and then attach it to you who everybody's blown away with your performance.

Starting point is 00:16:57 It's it's invent closed. It's almost obvious to me because when you think I mean it's no different than the bodybuilding world. I mean this is what they do. They find a bodybuilder who goes pro or wins a show and then they tell them, you know, hey, market this supplement. It's like, motherfucker, never took any of that to get to that point. And all of a sudden, now he's posting it every, every fourth picture is a, is his supplement.

Starting point is 00:17:18 You know, it's funny about that is, I think bodybuilders pro bodybuilders have lost that power. Oh, they have. They've lost a lot of that power because it's oversaturated. Well, not just oversaturated, but everybody, most people now know that they're on a lot of drugs. It's like steroids. Yeah, so nobody now, like if a bodybuilder is like,

Starting point is 00:17:36 oh my god, I did this new thing and this is why I built so much muscle, people don't believe me anymore. It's not like that with pro sports, quite as much. Like with pro sports, people still look at that and don't think necessarily right away, genetics and drugs. They think, oh shit, he's doing something different, something new. And, you know, so they have more power in that sense. Bodybuilders used to have that power. You know, if Arnold or Lee Haney said,

Starting point is 00:17:59 this is the shake that I take. Or Dorian, there's a lot more mystery back then, like how they were getting so guerrilla-sized. It was just this magical process where we were just like, and aw, like, oh my God, this guy's fucking huge. He must be, yeah, of course he's using that protein. And he's getting shredded all of a sudden because he's using Xenadrine. Yeah, it makes a lot of sense. I just think it's funny that you know,

Starting point is 00:18:26 we're gonna attach this product to Tom Brady, who has played probably, you know, 30 years of his life and has never even wore the shirt. But now it'll be on commercials all over the place and everybody will be talking about it. It's really been working for me the last month. Yeah. Yeah.

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Starting point is 00:18:53 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah'm just gonna say growth hormone, and we'll leave it at that. You can't test for that, right? They don't have a test for growth hormone. Do you? I don't think they do. I don't know the NFL, that'd be great question, ask Brandon

Starting point is 00:19:13 to ask him what it is if they're testing for that. I think they can only test for the testosterone and the testosterone derivatives. I don't think they have. I totally think he's where I'm like, I had a dude, growth home will come on like, give the guy something. Oh, I agree. I'm the good and the rest.

Starting point is 00:19:31 Bro, he's ultimately taking it. It's not like this. I think HGH is one of those things that is overrated as far as what people think it does for you. That you think that you're gonna take it and be like, oh, that's not. No, no, no, no. Because you hear people say it all the time,

Starting point is 00:19:44 like, oh, I guarantee he's on this and he's on HGH for sure. Like, yeah, he probably is, but the HGH doesn't make this guy super human. No, of course not. It's like that. But if you've been on it, you know, if he's been on it for four or five years, it's the fountain of youth. Yeah, it should help. That's what what I noticed from it more than anything else. Like, first of all, it took almost six months before I really felt. And the first time I ever did took almost six months before I really felt, and the first time I ever did H.H. was almost, I don't know, six years ago or so. And luckily I had somebody who was telling me they're like, listen, you're going to take this. You're

Starting point is 00:20:13 not going to feel all crazy. So I was ready for it to not, like, feel that way. And he said, it'll take a while before you, you really feel it in your system. And you'll notice like things like energy and sleep and your fingernails and hair growth and skin and stuff like that. That's what I noticed. And the biggest thing that stood out to me was, I consistently woke up just with more energy

Starting point is 00:20:39 than I ever used to. I've talked on the show before that I'm a slow riser and I'm a night guy. I'm not really a morning person. Something about the HCH just gave me the incredible night's sleep and I would wake up just ready to start my day. It made me feel, it reminded me of being kind of 17 again where you felt invincible where you didn't even need a consistent sleep every night.

Starting point is 00:20:59 You would wake up the next morning and feel fresh, you're on a spry. So that's what I noticed that. And then my fingernails, I was having to clip my nails every week because they were just growing at a control. It was crazy how fast they were growing. So I noticed those two things. Yeah, so he figured he's older and the things that will plague someone who's older,

Starting point is 00:21:19 it's like joint pain, mainly, right? Joint pain and stiffness. So in that regard, it's got to help him a lot. I'm assuming. And he's making enough money and, you know, he's got so enough on the line that I wouldn't blame him at all. Well, there's the whole lying factor. Two athletes now, they, with the amount of money they have, the resources that they have, I mean, they just, they're on the most cutting edge of everything. They're all using infrared, they're all using cryotherapy. They're all halo technology. They're, they're using everything. And, and again, you know, what it reminds me of is like when we used to talk about Ben Greenfield is it makes sense

Starting point is 00:21:55 for somebody like that who's taking that's doing all the other stuff. It's not like Tom Brady is wearing a fucking infrared shirt and doing cryo and doing those things like that. But then he's out fucking eating shitty food, party and all night long or whatever. You know what I'm saying? It's like, okay. So he's optimizing almost all aspects of his life. So okay, it makes sense to throw some of these things in there to completely max out where the average consumer who's like looking for that competitive edge, like, oh, you know,

Starting point is 00:22:24 I want to try this out. Like, yeah, and I've gotten a ton of people in boxing me about the juve because I've been doing the juve. And you know, I seem to be seeing some positive benefits. More so with my psoriasis than I am noticing my libido. My libido doesn't seem to be at least it doesn't feel like it's a major spike from it. But I do notice skin and psoriasis, and I actually notice that pretty fast. How long will you be using it for?

Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, it's at my house now, so I've been consistently doing it in the morning and in the night. Well, if you bring it back, just wipe it. Yeah, wipe it. Well, I don't hump it. I don't have to like, six to two at this. I don't know if you're like laying.

Starting point is 00:23:02 I'm pretty sure it says don't hump this. Stay six to 12 inches away. Yeah, I don't know if you're just you're sure it says don't hump this day six to 12 inches away Yeah, I don't know if you're just you're like arresting it on it like better hugs Yeah, I feel like I was when's our infrared sonic it in here. Oh, yeah, I don't know That's your connection. It should be soon. I don't I said we set it up. So it should be here pretty soon Oh, it's like it's supposed to be on its way. I believe so right yep. Oh That'll be very fun. So you want some current events? Some current events news?

Starting point is 00:23:27 Do you want an event? How about... Susan News song. How about Apple? Two, jeep, jeep, jeep, jeep. I don't know. I gotta come up with one for that, dude. You ready for Apple, the rival Kaiser or what?

Starting point is 00:23:37 No, it's Amazon. Or Amazon. It's Amazon. So Amazon, Berkshire, Halfway and JP Morgan. So you have Amazon and two large investment companies are teaming up to create a healthcare company or healthcare type company for Amazon. Boom.

Starting point is 00:23:56 Yes, this is great. Man, where did you hear this? To this competitive healthcare. You know, it's funny what that they would start doing this? Oh, come on, bro, it's obvious. It has to you know Why the market the why is it when you call something long ago? It's so fucking amazing, but then when I call something It's obvious what It was only obvious to me. It's obviously

Starting point is 00:24:18 Obviously They're going in that direction. When I was 13 I wrote a paper on it outside of that direction. Well, 13 I wrote a paper on it. Sustard on those. No, here's, here's why it's obvious from an economic point of view, you have such high market pressures coming from a field of our economy that the prices are so skewed

Starting point is 00:24:36 and so distorted because of the crony capitalism that exists within it that there's gonna be a market response. And what I mean by that is when you have, if all water, all of a sudden was tacked so high, that was super, super, super expensive, you would find the market would try to find a solution because the market pressure to find a solution is so hard. Yeah, but when you start getting into medical

Starting point is 00:24:59 and education and things like that, it's not that fucking obvious because it's not that fucking easy, bro. Oh no, it's not as simple as like, oh look at the market disc is demanding it, so watch it happen. It's like, no, there's a lot of, there's a lot of fucking regulations

Starting point is 00:25:12 that's been in place to take that. Well, that's been in place to take that. It's too legalistic in industries. Yeah, well that's just need change. That's exactly why it's taken this long because why it's taken this much of a distortion in the prices, because it's because it's fucking crazy, man. You get an ambulance ride a class fee over $10,000 or $5,000.

Starting point is 00:25:30 It makes no sense whatsoever. And the reason why it doesn't make sense is because it doesn't make sense. The prices are so distorted in our healthcare precisely because of all the weird ways that government intrudes into the market and creates all these weird demands or these weird, you know, it basically is distorted as fuck.

Starting point is 00:25:49 So because the prices are so high, now you've got companies who are willing to try to navigate this complex, you know, regulatory system that we have for healthcare, and they don't, by the way, the stock market didn't like it. Amazon, when they talked about this, they're stock dropped, because people, yeah, just because it's such a beast attack. Well, dude. It's it's one of the most there's a few markets in the Well, I've probably regulated and that's one of them. Yeah Yeah, they're probably also gonna take a major loss to make it happen to yeah, it's of course what they they do I mean, that's what I love about it. I'm not scared of that. You know, he'll take on the impossible like that and really try Pro basis make a fish and see that.

Starting point is 00:26:25 Those are my two dudes right there. I mean, they're a threesome. It is incredible to see like what he's willing to take on, you know, and disrupt the whole process with that. Yeah, it'll, I mean, there's definitely some laws that need to change, you know, like you could go to a physician's assistant for a lot of the things you go to a doctor for. You could definitely have a pharmacist give you things that you have to go get prescription for.

Starting point is 00:26:50 You know, it's just, it's crazy how expensive we made things. And those are just two silly examples. Then there's all these regulations that make competing insurance companies not able to compete because of the state. I think it's completely silly. I should be able to go, I should be able to go see you and you be my doctor if I want to.

Starting point is 00:27:04 If I'm stupid enough to let you And you know be my doctor. Why not though? I mean, I don't understand why that what it just makes no sense to me You know, yeah, no, it's like I should have that right to be able to say like hey, you know what sounds a really smart Guy and even though he didn't go to med school. I feel confident that he can help diagnose this cold Am I and help point me in the right direction like why can't I go to like a private place? There's this, that's a fundamental, that's a philosophical fundamental moral question is in that really boils down to this is that you own your body and you own your mind. And that's the bottom line.

Starting point is 00:27:37 You should be able to do whatever you want to your body and your mind, including making a voluntary, you know, transaction with somebody who says they're going to treat something that you have. Now, the bad would be from someone lying, right, from, from deceit, but that's different. We're, you know, that's when you're lying, that's the way if you, if you make a contract, the person lies on the contract, the agreement. I feel like 20 years ago that, that would be a problem, but now with the way like how we do Yelp, like it just wouldn't exist.

Starting point is 00:28:07 Like you fuck up one person, that's to be the lie. The medical system already fucks up on enough people and it's regulated. So if it was unregulated and we allowed people to regulate it through reviews and stars, like you know, I was, let's say I was searching something and I had, and there was something specific wrong with my ankle, my Achillesies like I mean keelies right so instead of me having to go through the medical system what if I could search doctors or people that specialize in a keelies tears and then I can read the reviews like oh my god this guy was amazing he helped me do this this or his poor oh my god it made it worth you know I'm not gonna go see that guy. You say or girl like so.

Starting point is 00:28:45 So they have rating websites like that now with doctors and stuff like that. Right. I mean, really if you want to, here's the thing, like if you, if you really want to lower the price of, of healthcare, you, you've got to let it, stay out of it completely and let them compete and let people pay at a pocket. I guarantee you know what's happening right now. And again, this is the market starts to respond in weird ways. There's people who are taking ubers of the hospital instead of an ambulance. Yeah, no, I've heard that.

Starting point is 00:29:10 You know what I'm saying? There's people literally make sense. Well, it's just, like I said, it's, if they got out of the way and if people had to pay at a pocket, if every time I went to the doctor and I just to ask them a question and I knew it cost me $150,

Starting point is 00:29:24 I probably'm not gonna go when I could figure it out myself most of the time, unless it's kind of an emergency, but because insurance covers everything, that's one of the reasons why cost has gone through. There's also no competition, where some states have one or two insurance companies. There's lots of middlemen.

Starting point is 00:29:40 It's just, and then you have these liability insurance is that some doctors have to get like, OB, OB-GYNs in California, I believe, they can be sued up until the baby turns 18. So if they deliver a child, that child can sue them up until they're 18. So now you're an OB-GYN and you're paying a quarter million dollars a year,

Starting point is 00:30:00 or 150,000 dollars a year, just on your insurance to cover yourself. Well, that cost is gonna get passed out to someone else. Yeah, there's just massive inefficiencies all the way across the board, even just housing people in the hospital for too long just because they need the quota.

Starting point is 00:30:17 They need the amount of patients to basically pay for all the bills that they have to pay. And just the business of it in general, it just screams in efficiency. You guys should see what's going on right now. Are you familiar with going on with in-home healthcare right now? Oh yeah, dude, like concierge doctors.

Starting point is 00:30:35 And once that becomes more affordable, that's such a better idea. It's like you place all the tools in the hands of the caregivers around you. And then they take care of them in their home. Why the fuck you got to go to the hospital, you know, it's just because it's a sterile environment. You can create a sterile environment in your house. It's happening right now. There's a huge, I mean, it's totally shaking up the healthcare industry with, especially on the physical therapy side. So my buddy who's a PTA, and he's been doing it for a long time, and he's been talking

Starting point is 00:31:08 about this transition, and he finally has made that transition of, you know, instead of these insurance companies, and insurance companies are loving it too. That was what the big thing was waiting for insurance companies to start covering it. It's like, okay, you could send these people to this medical facility and get treatment there, and it's costing the insurance company like $500 a day. Or you can pay like an in-home care person like 150. You know, and that's way cheaper for the insurance company. And then the P.T.U. is actually helping the patient.

Starting point is 00:31:37 The services are way better. Yeah, it's better, they're happier. And it's in their home. It's like a win all the way around. But yet it was one of those things that took forever to happen. And it's like now that you see it, watching it disrupt is pretty crazy to see happening.

Starting point is 00:31:49 Yeah, and I think if it was more, you know, you had to pay yourself, you had to pay out a pocket, you knew what you were paying for, you knew what you were getting, we could rate it off of that. Because most people have no idea how much your procedures cost. Most people know they're deductible and that's it.

Starting point is 00:32:04 You ask them, you know, hey, you went to the doctor for this, do you know how much you actually paid and they'll say no, they have no idea how much a procedure's cost. Most people know they're deductible and that's it. You ask them, hey, you went to the doctor for this, do you know how much you actually paid? And they'll say, no, they have no idea, which is not a good thing. Well, and then the patients more involved in the process, a big problem is that we just, we go in and we just trust, like open trust for like all the way through the entire process.

Starting point is 00:32:21 Without any education going into, you know, like the people around, like they're just like at the whim of the entire process, without any education going into, you know, like the people around, like they're just like at the whim of whatever the doctor says versus like, let's be a part of this process together. Well, think about this way too, you know, the doctors and the providers and, you know, the nurses and whoever, the ones that do the best job

Starting point is 00:32:38 are the ones that you don't have to see a lot. And they're the ones that will get better rating and that will actually promote them to get you better faster versus how long you're in the hospital or how much, how many drugs you can take and all those other things. So, you know, if I go to a doctor and the doctor says to me, take these pills and you'll be better and I gotta keep taking the pills and whatever and I'm paying out of pocket, it's costing me all this money. Or this doctor says, here's some other options, it's not gonna cost you as much and you're

Starting point is 00:33:02 gonna get better and you're not gonna have to buy. And I follow that, I'm gonna leave a review and be like, look, I spent way less money with this guy. He showed me a way to do this without taking medications, and it's working better. And it would just change everything, because at the current rate that we're going, there is no way we can sustain it. It's just going to bankrupt.

Starting point is 00:33:20 That's it. Completely, there's no way we can maintain this trajectory. It's just too, it's absolutely too crazy and too expensive. It will literally bankrupt us, 100%. I agree. You know, we have the explosion of autoimmune diseases and diabetes and then the medical system isn't doing really much to treat those types of things or at least they're treating the symptoms and which is just costing more and more money and who knows what's going to

Starting point is 00:33:43 happen with that. Hey dude, I'm really disappointed in neither one of you guys even congratulated me about being on Joe Rogan. Yeah, I know. I feel like it's a kind of a big deal and like you got, I beat you guys there and then you guys don't even say anything.

Starting point is 00:33:54 Mind pump Adam, too. Yeah, you're, you're, you're, you're video was up. Your video was up on there. Yeah, you and you and, our girl Stephanie. I'm a, I'm a official. Yeah, Ben Green, Ben Greenfield. My boy out of my boy, I told him,

Starting point is 00:34:07 I said of a text message. Hey, bro, stop telling people we're friends. I don't even like you. That's hilarious. Well, that's solidified. The millions of people. So that's absolutely hilarious. Yeah, that video is kind of crazy in random.

Starting point is 00:34:22 Okay, that's a little mind pump prediction and foresight on our part, right? To when we saw and found out about Eldella, all of us were immediately fascinated with it and thought, man, this is super important that people need to hear about this. And that was one of the first videos we did in studio when we first got here.

Starting point is 00:34:43 And it's just, it was just by chance because Ben Greenfield had just happened to be talking about El Dóa as an incredible technique for relieving pressure on your low back. And Joe was like, El Dóa, what's that? How do you spell it? And they type it in. And our video was the first time.

Starting point is 00:34:59 Yeah, because we have the number one video. I think it was at like 30,000 views. So we popped right up. So that was pretty cool to see that. It was, yeah, no, those, Eldo is fascinating. It's creating traction, the fascia.

Starting point is 00:35:12 Yeah, with fascial lines. So moving your body in positions where the fascia now is creating traction or, or, you know, traction means you're creating space in between the vertebrae or pulling things apart. And I really wish they would explain it that way because every time I ask an Eldoa practitioner, what Eldoa is and how it works, I get this long form answer.

Starting point is 00:35:32 Like 30 minute description of something that at the end of it, I'm like, I have no idea what you're talking about. But if you just say like there's fascia lines and by positioning your body in a certain way, we can create traction through the fascia, now you're done. Well, really what you're, you're, you're,

Starting point is 00:35:46 I sold it for you. You're taking it in your, I'm sure I'm simplifying like crazy very much. Yeah, of course, but that's what, that's what's needed. That's what, yeah, exactly. You need, you need, you need, anybody else is gonna hear it. Easy introduction and then go into depth.

Starting point is 00:35:57 Yeah, that's why I think that video is doing so well is just because that we did kind of simplify it. You know, we try to make it as simple as possible for people to understand where you're right. Like, I talked to some of the Aldoos guys, and I'm like, come on, dude. But that's academia for you. It's pretty much across the board.

Starting point is 00:36:11 Yeah, it's something that we have inside of us that it's more insecurity, right? It's this insecurity of like a field. You want people to know how much you study. It could be, but there's a side to it. And that is that it's not easy. You look, I have it's not just small, it's not just really smart people. It's most people. If you have someone who, you know, sometimes I've had people who started a new business or have

Starting point is 00:36:37 this idea, and they say, cool, tell me what it is. And like, an hour and a half later, I have no idea what you're doing, what you're trying to do. They don't know how to put together a simple elevator pitch because they're in it too much. Well, they want to tell you everything. They want to tell you the whole thing up, down, left, right, and like break it all down and explain it to you, which only leaves you more confused. This is something I used to teach when I would teach people how to sell, is you need to be able to summarize what you're trying to say in a 10 second conversation. Like that and they would call out the elevator.

Starting point is 00:37:08 It's very difficult for some people to do. We had a friend of ours who had a fitness product or program and we went and it was me and you, right? We went and met and I'm not going to say what is, I don't want to put them on blast, but we went and met with him and he was trying to break it down and dude. We were there for there was layers on layers bro We were there for two and a half to three hours and at the end of it I finally with Priso I finally looked at him and I'm like I still don't know What this is I don't know what you're doing you have to explain to me what you're doing because if you can't explain me

Starting point is 00:37:42 Your friend who's super interested in what you're trying to do and is't explain me your friend who's super interested in what you're trying to do and is right and if I'm excited in the same industry and willing to help you and him in your industry if you can't explain to me no way in hell you be able to explain to the average person right so you need to be able to do that otherwise you're fucking is a skill you know the end of the day yeah hey I've been getting a lot of messages on believe or not on the current blend the blend the organify Kermit blend. Hey, you know, the green juice mixed with the yellow So the gold juice we start drinking it is it is like Hey, man, I got more Christmas in the Kermit blend. I got more of the Christmas. Christmas is a really good one

Starting point is 00:38:17 Yeah, that's the red and green. That's the most popular. I've seen but I mean, I'm on the I'm on the gold kick right now It's have you been doing it every day almost Almost every night, it's like my night thing. Is it better? I don't know if I would, I can attribute that yet to that, you know me was so. What about your inflammation, because you have your ankle? Yeah, but it's not really inflamed anymore.

Starting point is 00:38:36 Okay, good. Yeah, I'm beyond inflammation right now. And I'm not really lifting very consistent. I mean, I'm probably hitting a gym twice a week right now, so I'm not battling a lot of Information I'm all and I'm also on low low carb Right now, so I am not really seeing a lot of Information so to attribute the gold you I wouldn't do that yet, but it takes good it takes fucking great

Starting point is 00:38:56 It tastes really good. It's really good. It's the best tasting thing that I think that they made that it's Cal bliss I mean the Cal bliss is pretty old. Oh, that's just a treat. Yeah. That's something that we've done really. And it's my little go-to. I just, I put it in my cocoa whip and whip it up with something. So this morning I made like a little weight gainer shake. It's not really a weight gainer shake, but I wanted something high calorie. And so I took, and I've done this before,

Starting point is 00:39:17 I take coconut milk in the can. Yeah. So like the full fat coconut milk. And then I put that in a blender. So that by itself is 600 something calories. It's meaty. Then I put four egg yolks, because I want the cholesterol on top of it.

Starting point is 00:39:32 Then I put some of the organified protein powder and I did chocolate. And then on top of that, I did cacao bliss to throw in more of a chocolatey flavor. And man, when you blend that up, it's so thick. It's like, it's almost like a batter. And it's really fucking good. I want to try out my client gave me this idea, she, what she's done with it, she said, take the cacao bliss, she takes coconut milk, freezes it in ice cube trays,

Starting point is 00:39:58 and then puts the ice cubes in the shaker cup with the cow bliss and shakes it up. And so you got the coconut ice cubes that kind of melts in there and then she puts dates. So she says dates. She blends it up with dates. Oh, it's very creative. Yeah, I don't know if she said blend. I think she just shakes it up.

Starting point is 00:40:15 What are the dates, dude? Just float around in there? I don't know. I haven't seen it. I don't know. That'd be a weird thing to have in your drink, float around. Yeah, like a lump.

Starting point is 00:40:24 Yeah. Maybe she takes a magic bulleted or something, but I thought that was Interesting I'm gonna try that by the way, you know before the blender Use the name bullet. Do you know what a bullet was? Do you guys remember? Yeah, it was a vibrator There's a little tiny sex toy. Yeah, it still is they still saw they still saw them They marketed it like you know for your long time. I don't ride you know I think I don't think think the sex toy company cared when the blender came out, like it was like conflict of interest.

Starting point is 00:40:49 Like I don't think anyone's gonna be shoving any blinders up there, but you're gonna be a problem. Have you guys ever been in a sex shop? Of course. Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. When's the last thing we've been in a sex shop? Oh my God, probably years ago,

Starting point is 00:41:03 but there's one in Santa Cruz that's called Frenchies. And it's like, it still has that creepiness where everybody's cool and then there's one guy. And he's there way too long and he's just kind of perusing like the massive dildos section and you're just like, bro. He's a calm down man, that guy is into it. I went into one when I was 19, I think, to buy... That's the last time you went in one?

Starting point is 00:41:33 No, no, that's not the last time. That's the last time, fuck you. But when I was like 19, was one of the first times I walked into one and I was gonna get a dirty movie. I was gonna get like some porn or whatever. And I remember walking in and it was so uncomfortable to walk in there because I'm, you know, because everybody knows why you're there.

Starting point is 00:41:50 There's nothing else that's there selling other than sex stuff and porn. So then I'm going through the porn section and part of me wants to take a long time to pick because I'm like this, I'm not gonna come back here for a while. Yeah, I wanna make a good decision. Yeah, I'm gonna make a really good decision,

Starting point is 00:42:03 but then you don't wanna take too long because you feel weird into the guy that's staring at the dildos. So while I'm looking, the girl that works there who also happens to be, I don't know, 24, so I'm 19, she's not that much older than me, and she's still young. She comes over, she's like, do you need some help? And I almost died, dude.

Starting point is 00:42:20 I'm like, I don't know what to say to this girl. She's gonna, because you don't know what kind of help she's talking about. Yeah, exactly. I'll never forget that. So now to this day, if I ever like, I don't know what to say to this girl. Cause you don't know what kind of helps you talk about. Yeah, exactly. I'll never forget that. So now to this day, if I ever walk in, steer me in the right direction. It's always weird to look at the employees in the store.

Starting point is 00:42:32 You know, imagine if you were, you know, you worked in one of those places. You know what I'm saying? And people ask you questions. That's a weird job. Hey, how does this, how does this work? Well, this end goes in here. This one goes in your partner.

Starting point is 00:42:42 I would just assume, I would assume somebody who works there's probably kind of a nymphomaniac. That's what I would guess that. I would think that you really have to be. What if you're not a nymphomaniac? Then all of a sudden you get that stereotype, you know? I bet you they get, I wouldn't have to get hit on. I'm sure.

Starting point is 00:42:57 I'm sure. You think so? Absolutely. They're have way cute. Are you kidding me? Like Justin said, you know my creeps probably walk in that store. There's gotta be a higher rate of creeps that come in there than just, you

Starting point is 00:43:07 know, Jan and Joe. Jan and Joe from Friday night. One of the stores that you're not angry that they don't have a return policy. Like, that's good. Yeah. This did work out. I was just in there a couple months ago. Oh, wow. All you need is a dishwasher. Yeah. I'm notorious for you. You went in there a couple months ago Yeah, yeah, so I go in every year So we go in week. It's a this is kind of like a traditional thing that I do I'm I like being the guy who who puts the sex toy and the white elephant gift for Christmas with the family Oh, yeah, always gets the family through somebody else

Starting point is 00:43:41 This is like a family event. So there's like board games and some of that. And then outcomes is big deal. There's something rattling under the tree. It always gets a great laugh out of the family. And it, uh, this year, when did I get this year? I can't even think of what I got right now. It wasn't the fuzzy handcuffs. That was a year before. This year was, shit, man.

Starting point is 00:43:59 I don't remember what I got. You know, it's funny about that. Is everybody laughs, but then at the end of the party, it's like, where did go? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely, absolutely, that's why it's hilarious to watch because I I try and get something that's funny or that actually somebody might use You know that's good. It's not just something like I don't get like a four-foot-fucking-black deal though That's six, you know six inches wide. You know I'm saying like I don't do that like I get somebody up with that I get something that someone's like oh like a card like one year I did a

Starting point is 00:44:23 They're like a sex card game and like the sex dice and fuzzy hand cut all things that somebody in that family or the household would be like Oh, I would I would use those right there. Yeah, then you watch him pass it around. Yeah. Oh, man There's some crazy ones out there some crazy sex toys out there. Oh, yeah bring on the bar dog. Do it. Yeah, he's by British Today's quads being brought to you by Kai Maricopi It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner Cullmer and more focused buzz without the crash Put the Kai Maricopi at MindPumpMedia.com and input the discount code mindpump a check out for 10% off It's the motherfucking Eglis landed

Starting point is 00:45:12 Quikwa Our first question is from Ricky Rouse 1 the benefits of pause reps. Did we just answer this? No? No, we didn't no, we didn't answer this question. Just a couple of, just like less than 10 quasigo, yeah. I don't think so. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You don't remember? Uh-uh, I don't. Well, we can skip it.

Starting point is 00:45:32 The next question. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no squats or a bench press and you pause the rep within the repetition. So before you can pause it at the bottom of the rep. And it's most challenging part of the rep. That's the idea, right? Or you could pause it at the top of a rep, or you could pause it somewhere in the middle. Now I love utilizing pause reps because it allows you to focus on a range within the rep that you may have particular trouble with. So for me, when I first really saw the benefit of pause rep, so this is years ago, I hadn't

Starting point is 00:46:12 used this technique for most of my lifting career, and then I read the book, Dinosaur Training, which is this, it's a great kind of old school book on strength training. There's some cool stuff in there, and he talks about what he calls bottom position squats, and bottom position squats are when you take a barbell, and you're really hard to do by the way. Super hard, yeah. You load them on a rack at the bottom of where you would be at the bottom squat,

Starting point is 00:46:37 and so you get underneath the bar, you get real tight, and then you lift from the bottom. It's such an eye opener for understanding CNS because it's amazing that when we start from the top and we disallow it. Right, what happens is our body, like, it forces that CNS to activate, right?

Starting point is 00:46:53 You just celebrate with something loaded on your back. Elastic energy potential by everything. Fire is firing because it's like, oh, you know, it's trying to keep you from getting crushed. Starting at the bottom from a dead stop and going up, it's crazy how loose you feel. How much weaker you are.

Starting point is 00:47:08 Yes, you're weak and you're not connected. And what Justin said with the elastic potential is that's the one of the prevailing theories in that. You're, as you're lowering into a rep, muscle fibers attach at different points. And what you can, what they start, what some of them will do is they'll attach and they'll stretch a little bit.

Starting point is 00:47:25 And that elastic potential at the bottom is what gives you more strength. And it's true, look, I tell you, if you start a squat at the bottom, you're not gonna be able to lift half as much. It's not way like. I always recommend some start way like. So I started doing those and I was like shocked

Starting point is 00:47:42 at how weak I was at the starting off that way in squats, I'm like, wow, I'm going to start implementing these because anytime I find something like that, I know that if I get better at it, I'm going to get a huge boost in strength and muscle. And then part of my training for that was to take a regular squat, lower down into the hole where I go down into the squat and then hold it at the bottom for anywhere between three to ten seconds. I would even do a ten second.

Starting point is 00:48:07 I would kill all the momentum. Yeah, I'd stop at the bottom and just stay tight and hold it and I count one thousand one thousand two one thousand three however long I was going to do it and then I'd come back up and what that did for me was it it bumped my squat up more than almost anything else that I had ever done, besides good exercise programming. I'm talking about like little techniques. It was one of the more effective things that I did because it made me so much stronger

Starting point is 00:48:32 at the weakest part of my rep, which is at the bottom. Well, it just goes to show you to where you disengage, like subconsciously, and a lot of people don't realize like when they actually break, where they don't have as much tension in the relying on their joints and everything else to kind of catapult them back, and then re-engage and kind of drive out of the position,

Starting point is 00:48:52 whereas how much more effective it is when you stay tense, and when you keep everything involved, all the way through each point of the lift. And there's a little bit of caution here because I did learn this lesson with the bench press. So then I started applying it to my bench press and my weakest part of the bench press was at the very bottom. And that's common for a lot of people.

Starting point is 00:49:17 It's at the very, very bottom, we tend to be weakest and we tend to be strongest at the very top. So then I started doing like every bench was paused. Every bench I'd hold it at my chest. I wouldn't rest it on my chest, but I'd stay tight and I'd hold it for a count of five and then I'd press up.

Starting point is 00:49:30 And I practiced, practiced, practiced. And it got to the point where I got really strong at the bottom part of my bench, but I lost some of that at the mid-range in top. And the lesson that I learned with this is the strength that you gain from resistance training, a lot of it's very specific It's what you're emphasizing very specific

Starting point is 00:49:48 So if you practice a pause rep always in the same position It's you'll totally get stronger at that position But you need to pay attention because you need to start Posing at different portions of the rep otherwise you're gonna now if I were to bench really heavy I The first four inches off my chest. I'm stronger than I am after that. After that, I start to get stuck, whereas before it was right at the bottom and the same thing can happen with the squat.

Starting point is 00:50:11 But when you focus on these different portions of the rep, it is a new stimulus, it is a different adaptation. It's crazy how much strength is, you know, join angle specific. Like it just, it on all aspects. So it's just like whatever you, whatever you're expressing and the most frequently is what you're gonna end up

Starting point is 00:50:31 being the strongest in. And so you just have to always evaluate that and these gross motor movements are definitely one of those where you wanna take your time because those deficiencies, you know, you won't really recognize it unless you slow down or you apply things like these pause reps. I just like it because it's a great way to teach people better mechanics.

Starting point is 00:50:52 When you force someone to pause and stop because I think one of the most common mistakes that I see lifters doing is their tempo and their momentum. Very few people even, I think you take it one step back even before you do pos reps, how many people do you think even train with a 422 tempo? Like that, and that's like that at 422. 422 and hypertrophy is technically

Starting point is 00:51:15 the most optimal place to build muscle, right? Which we've talked about how important phasing and changing out of that, and if you've been doing that for a long time, then it's not, but if you were to take like a six week study and say, okay, what's most optimal for people to build muscle, it would be a hypertrophy-based repetition range, which is that 10 to 12 rep range, and it would be a tempo that's a 4-2-2, which is four-second deceleration, a two-second isolation pause and hold, and then two seconds on the way up is like the

Starting point is 00:51:41 most ideal. But I rarely, rarely ever see somebody working that tempo. No, you know why? It's a fucking ego killer. It's hard as fuck. It's an ego killer. Hard as fuck.

Starting point is 00:51:51 If you could squat, you know, 10 reps with 3, 15, four, and the regular 10 reps, and you've got decent form, you can pretty much bring that way down to like 250 to do a 4, 2, 2 for the same amount of reps. I mean, it's a dramatic reduction in the amount of weight you're going to lift and nobody likes that, especially not man, right? We don't like lowering weight even if it's

Starting point is 00:52:13 to build more muscle because oh shit, somebody could see that I train a lot like this and I always try and teach it to somebody who's lifting with me or I'm teaching techniques that man, it's we get man, we get in this ego lifting of caring about how much we're pricing up, that that's what we're always chasing. Oh, my bench went up, oh, this went up. And it's like, well, look at your tempo too.

Starting point is 00:52:36 Try taking a hundred pounds off that. Yeah, it is not the only minute. Right, and see if you can, you can decelerate that weight for four seconds and then hold it at the bottom and then come back up. And it's like, if you haven't done that, if you can, you can decelerate that weight for four seconds and then hold it at the bottom and then come back up. And it's like, if you haven't done that, if you haven't done that ever, implementing that into your routine is going to show you huge benefits. It's a mind, it's actually, it's actually mind blowing.

Starting point is 00:52:55 Yes. It's, it's very small. And by the way, if you haven't done this, I don't recommend you all of a sudden apply this to every set of every exercise because it's a new intensity and you're going to fry yourself. Do it like pick a few exercises that are really important. So staple was, squatter bench press those two alone are great for this. And apply it and then watch how you progress and you'll find that within that pause you're going to get much much stronger and start playing with it because it's a really effective. It's actually one of my

Starting point is 00:53:22 favorite techniques. It also doesn't require complicated equipment, it doesn't require chains or bands, it doesn't require changing the exercise even. I could take the same exercise and just pause the repetitions and get some benefit of it. One of the other ways that I learned how to use pause reps was relatively recently when we started Mind Pump, I had, when I had done overhead presses,

Starting point is 00:53:47 I had developed a habit of kind of the pumping rep where you press it up and then drop it right back down. So I never really locked completely out and hold it at the top. And that's the bodybuilding way of doing, you know, a shoulder press, because you're now keeping constant tempo, you wanna get a pump, blah, blah, blah. And when it ended up happening was,

Starting point is 00:54:04 that became the pattern that I became good at and I was bad at locking out and holding the weight above my head. I didn't realize how bad it was until we started working together, Justin started making a big deal about overhead carries where you, like, especially with the kettlebell, where you straighten your arm out above your head,

Starting point is 00:54:21 hold it and then walk or just hold it for time. So I went home and, you know, or I went to the gym and I practiced it. And I was so blown away at how difficult it was. Like here's a way, I can press this weight eight times above my head in that pumping fashion, but if I have to lock it out and hold it, all of a sudden I'm shaking and this is really terrible.

Starting point is 00:54:41 So I started implementing them. I started implementing holds and my shoulders grew and my overall strength grew. And you know, just again, another testament to the range of your reps and how the tempo of your reps make a huge difference in the strength adaptation you're going to get, which then can make a big difference in how much muscle you build in the type of results that you start to get. And you want that. You want strength in all these different ranges of motion because it's gonna make you more stable, more functional.

Starting point is 00:55:11 And when you work out in larger ranges of motion, you're more likely to stimulate more muscle fibers and get better results. Next question is from raising autism. When training, why does everything feel super heavy on some days and other days weight feels good? Is it tied to recovery or to other factors? Could be both.

Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, recovery and could be other factors. Could be, yeah, I see an S for sure would be the first thing you look at, could be nutrition too. I mean, you could be, it could be a lot of things. Fuck, that's a tough one. Yeah, this state of mind, state of mind too. You could literally be feeling really good about to work out, have a stressful email

Starting point is 00:55:50 or conversation with someone or start to feel down about yourself. And that too will start to affect your strength because your thoughts affect your central nervous system and how it fires. Of 100% is not a debate. If you were to think about something very stressful, you would get into a sympathetic state,

Starting point is 00:56:08 which is your central nervous system creating this fight or flight response, which can become fatiguing if you're in that for too long. And the short term can make you stronger. And so that has a big effect on how strong you are. A great example of that is if you give someone caffeine right before they work out and their strength goes up. What the caffeine did is it amped up the CNS. It didn't make you billion of building any more muscle in the short period of time

Starting point is 00:56:34 that the caffeine took its time to give you that effect. But your CNS did respond and it did make you stronger. Then there's the obvious ones, obviously, right. If you didn't get good sleep, if your diet is off and those kinds of things, but when this person is talking about from one day to the next, I'm assuming that they're talking about like that everything was the same.

Starting point is 00:56:53 Like I don't get it. You know, my diet was the same. I had the same sleep, but today I'm really weak or today I feel shaky or I don't feel as whatever, and the new trip, everything else was the same. I just don't get it. Now one thing you can do is you can start to take this in your own hands and start to modify and control it a little bit and this is kind of the science behind priming.

Starting point is 00:57:15 When you prime your body for your lifts, part of what you're doing is you're getting yourself to a position where your muscles fire more efficiently, which is gonna give you more strength. This is 100% true. This is why when you go lift cold, you're not able to push as hard as if you do a warm-up. Even if the warm-up is terrible, a warm-up is usually better than no warm-up at all

Starting point is 00:57:41 because you can get under the bar and fire and feel secure in how you fire. Part of this is your body has these natural protection mechanisms that are in place to prevent you from injuring yourself. So at any given moment, an untrained individual, if they were to exert maximum strength, really is only exerting a percentage of their actual potential. So when someone goes to lift something off the floor and they're a total beginner, and I'm making up some arbitrary numbers,

Starting point is 00:58:12 but I believe I'm close to what they are, they're probably really summoning something like 50% of their actual strength potential, because their bodies got these governors, and the governors say, we're only gonna let you access this much strength because any more than that is Potentially dangerous where you're either going to tear something or hurt something now

Starting point is 00:58:34 trained trainees or people with experience Especially people who train specifically in this like a limpa Gripers or power lif, have the ability to summon something like 70 to 90% of their actual potential because they've trained their body to be able to summon more strength and to be able to let off the governors a little bit because they've proven that they're safe within them. Part of that comes from stability, part of it comes from practice. I think the central nervous system learns over time

Starting point is 00:59:06 that it can exert more power. Now, you can influence this in the very short term. If you do a good priming session before a lift, you are gonna be able to summon more strength by being more stable and by kind of telling the CNS, you know, hey, I think I can, I think we can do this a little more safely. It's interesting because it's one of the most overlooked over the years, ways of training

Starting point is 00:59:29 the body that has the most immediate impact. And you see this now with like FRC, which we're actually hosting a certification here, which is great. What their whole process is is really to address the fact that we haven't trained our CNS to now override that system. You're talking about the governing system. We all have these governing systems in place to protect us, to keep us from overextending ourselves, to get in ranges of motion that are problematic.

Starting point is 01:00:02 Their whole system derives around unlocking that and unlocking your more potential because, you know, in a sense, it's just that you haven't trained your body to get comfortable in certain ranges, in certain positions and to really connect to that process to where you get your muscle to the fire efficiently and you do all that through accessing your nervous system. So, you know, nervous system plays such a critical role and strength that is completely overlooked. And I feel like powerlifting is probably the best example of like the ultimate expression of that. It's crazy to me that more people don't own that program of ours because it's one of the

Starting point is 01:00:41 ones that it doesn't, you don't even have to be following a maps program. You can be following any program you want, and you add maps prime to your routine, and I guarantee that you will see something from that, immediately, like right away, your first, it's not one of those things you gotta wait. Like, oh, good, good, the whole program to see if this program really works.

Starting point is 01:00:58 Like, it's like, does caffeine work? Right, it works. Yeah, it works. Yeah, it works. Guarantees, if you take the test, you figure out kind of where your imbalances are, where your needs are, you apply it to routine.

Starting point is 01:01:09 Just do the pre-primer. Yes, apply it to your routine, it will fucking blow your mind. And if it doesn't, you have fucking 30 days money back guarantee, how does not everybody own prime? Because for us, it was for sure if you would ask any of us what we think is the most revolutionary program That one great. It's that one. It's 100% that one and the reason why it's is because we've placed so much emphasis on

Starting point is 01:01:33 the muscles and on diet and supplementation yeah that we have without CNS Okay, so if you were to list this is no joke if you were to list, this is no joke. If you were to list the things that impacted your performance of your body and muscle growth, number one would be your CNS. That would be the most important. It's literally that big of a deal. I'll give you a simple test you could do right now

Starting point is 01:01:59 while you're listening to this podcast. Here's an easy one. If you have something that measures grip strength great, if you don't, you can kind of tell without needing to measure it. But squeeze something as hard as you can or just grip your left hand as hard as you can. Squeeze it as hard as you can, but relax your entire body. So all your squeezing is your left hand and squeeze it as hard as you can, but do not tense up any other muscles in your body. Then give yourself a minute or two to rest.

Starting point is 01:02:28 Repeat that, but this time tense up the entire body, including your face. Use your whole body. What you'll find is how much grip much more radiating at that. What you'll find if you could measure your grip strength is that you're stronger, significantly stronger in squeezing your grip when the whole body is priming, when your whole body is tensing. Now that's a simple example, and that's not how you prime your workouts necessarily,

Starting point is 01:02:52 but that's just highlighting how, if you understand how the central nervous system works or the world you're not changing the movement, you're still squeezing your hand the same way, the only difference is you're calling upon your entire body of course production. Right, versus just those muscles. It's such an esoteric idea for people.

Starting point is 01:03:07 I don't understand like why. Because we've not talked about it for so long. Yeah, it's not sexy. It's, but it's crazy to me because like everybody can understand that to, to provide movement, like I have to like accomplish this thing right here. How does that process even start? You have to like, you have to neurologically focus and direct your body in that process.

Starting point is 01:03:30 And then I have to ramp that up. If I need more force, I have to really ramp up my nervous system to be able to produce that force output that's gonna accomplish that task. And it's just like, people don't understand that. Right, so if you go to the gym and you know, even if you don't, even if you didn't have good sleep and you didn't have a good diet,

Starting point is 01:03:52 and you're going there and you're like, man, I feel kind of weak or whatever, but I want to perform, I want to get the most out of this workout. And you know, it's a good workout, so you don't think you have to rest or whatever. Then learn how to get your CNS to amplify and turn on in the way that you want it to,

Starting point is 01:04:11 and you will get much more out of your workout. Now, if you go into your workout and you're feeling good and you throw this on top of it, you're gonna feel a lot better. I mean, we've trained clients for so long. I would get a client, it's very simple. I get a client that haven't do a squat, I'd see something's going on. I do a couple of priming movements, we get into clients for so long. I would get a client, it's very simple. I get a client, I haven't do a squat, I'd see something's going on.

Starting point is 01:04:26 I do a couple of priming movements, we get into squat, boom, form changes, everybody feels better. All of a sudden, here's another example. I don't know how many guys have experienced this. Do you remember when those stupid bracelets, the baseball players were wearing, they were in style, there was copper, the copper. Yeah, the magma or something, it was dumb, right?

Starting point is 01:04:43 It was Hocus Pocus bullshit But they were selling knockoffs and stuff in the malls And I'll never forget I went into the mall and there was this dude that was selling these bracelets That's the trick. Yes, and what he what he did was he said, okay, here's the test I want you to stand on one foot and put your arm out, you know, put your arm length your arm straight out to your side Hold it as strong as you can. I'm going to try and knock you over by pushing on your hand. And the first time he does it, you lose your balance and you're like, whoa, okay. Then he says, put this bracelet on.

Starting point is 01:05:12 He puts it on you real quick and he goes, try again. And the second time he does it, it's harder to push you over. Now to the average person, you're just like, holy fuck, the bracelet works. No, no, that is central nervous system adaptation. The first recognition. That's it, the first time was practiced, the second time. It was so foreign to you. How often you stand on one leg, put your arm out, and have some push on you.

Starting point is 01:05:32 That's in your tensing. That's another example is when I have a client who's a beginner, and I would teach them how to do a single leg toe touch, which requires you to balance on one foot, and then reach down and touch your toes, and come back up without touching the floor with your other foot. The first set is the worst. The second and third set, they start to get a lot better until they start to fatigue and then it gets worse again.

Starting point is 01:05:54 But before things start to fatigue, and I love doing this because it's fucking magic. I'll tell the client, this is great for your personal trainers, by the way, that you can just blow your clients away. You can literally tell them, I'm gonna demonstrate to you how central nervous system adaptation works, and why this is gonna be a focus of ours when we train together. It's very important that we understand how the central nervous system works and how to train it properly to get you the results that you're looking for.

Starting point is 01:06:19 Let me give you an example. Have them do a single leg toe touch, have them do one set, it's gonna be real fucking hard, and then tell them the second and third set you're gonna get successively better. And nine out of 10 times that will happen.

Starting point is 01:06:29 They'll get blown away, and now you've got your example of how the CNS adapts. There you go, parlor tricks. Next question is from healthy, happy, and free. How do you break a bad habit? That's a tough one, man. Do you guys have any bad habits you've broken? Yeah, I've broken a lot of that.

Starting point is 01:06:45 I'm looking at the mirror and you see, no. It just really depends on the habits. So one right now currently for me, I just, I haven't had a Coke Zero or a Diet Coke in, I don't know how long now. They come on. 12 hours at least three or four weeks. Yeah, three or four.

Starting point is 01:06:59 That's true, I haven't seen you have one at all. No, of course, yeah, I haven't, I haven't. So, and what led up to that is, you know, and at one point, I have these things with, I've talked about it before, everything from cannabis to diet, coax, to anything that I know is not optimal for my balkaffine. Anything that I know is not optimal for my body, and I start to find myself ramping up. I give myself a little latitude. I'm not fucking a stickler where I freak out like oh my God it's so bad for my body having a diet coke you know every once in a while. It's when I

Starting point is 01:07:34 catch myself starting to have one every day and then when I even start catching myself having two in a day and it's like okay now it's time to stop buying and the first step for me is to stop buying them. So I have them in my house, if they're in my house, it's really hard to not go have one with dinner or with something that I'm eating. So for a habit like that, I don't go cold turkey.

Starting point is 01:07:56 I know people, the other people that think it's easier or have more success that way, I tend to like to just kind of scale it back because then it doesn't feel like I'm really depriving myself. Like I went from having a diet coke every single day and sometimes two in a day to none whatsoever. I go from the guy I was having at every single day

Starting point is 01:08:16 and having it in his home, too. Not having it in my home, but then maybe when we go out and we go to this Mexican restaurant, I decide I want a coke with that or we have a pizza on Friday and so I decide I want a coke with that, or we have a pizza on Friday, and so I decide I want a Coke with that. Did you find yourself when you would have, because I feel like there may be a distinction between a behavior and a habit,

Starting point is 01:08:32 although I'm not quite sure how to make that distinction. I'm trying to, as you're talking, I'm trying to think to myself, if there is, in fact, like, when I think of a habit, I think of something that you're like instinctually just doing. Like, I just do this, I don't even think about it. Was your Coke, was that becoming that way where you just... Yeah, and that's what I mean is like,

Starting point is 01:08:52 when it comes, when it turns into something that is starting to become a habit, right? Like, do you even think about it? Right, I start grabbing it. And the sign for me that it's becoming a habit is when I've gone and grabbed like two in a day. Like, that's kind of the light bulb that goes off for me. That it's like, okay, now this is becoming such a habit is when I've gone and grabbed like two in a day. Like that's kind of the light bulb that goes off for me. That it's like, okay, now this is becoming such a habit

Starting point is 01:09:09 that I just go when I go to get something to drink, it's go to this refrigerator, grab the die coke, and I could see where this is leading. And the same thing goes for caffeine. Like if I catch myself, you know, going for a coffee or a caffeine drink every single time, I feel a little dip in energy or I feel I need a pick me up and that becomes my go to and next thing you know I'm going from one a day every day to two or three in a day that's my my kind of you know light

Starting point is 01:09:34 bulb that goes off and says hey Adam's time to back off of these things and they same thing with cannabis when I'm doing cannabis and it becomes in every single night thing and then it becomes a thing where I've got to smoke a whole joint for me to even get the same effects that I would get from just taking two puffs before. That's kind of my indicator that it's time to back off of that also. So I kind of have these these parameters that I put on myself that help me stay ahead of like it becoming a really bad habit where you know you're doing it for a long period of time. But you know that's I think everybody is gonna be different. I know other people that have some better success

Starting point is 01:10:11 with just cutting cold turkey and going that. But then I feel like I'm depriving myself where this feels like I'm starting to do something for my body, I know that's not ideal. And so I'm gonna mitigate it. I'm gonna limit it a little bit. And so I don't feel like, again, and I might have a diet coke sometime this week. So it's not like I'm saying, I'm done with diet coke, I'm neverated. I'm gonna limit it a little bit, and so I don't feel like, again, and I might have a diet coke sometime this week.

Starting point is 01:10:25 So it's not like I'm saying, I'm done with diet coke. I'm never going back in. It's like, hey, I was starting to, it was starting to become a habit. I don't want it to be a habit. I want it to be something that, hey, every once in a while,

Starting point is 01:10:36 when I'm craving something like that or whatever I hate using that term, but something that I feel like having, I'm gonna have it. And then I don't feel bad about it because I've been doing it like crazy. The feeling of deprivation, this is an interesting one now. I had this conversation a long time ago

Starting point is 01:10:50 and it really blew my mind. I used to train a psychologist and we would talk about the psychology behind the reason why people eat the way they do. Because it's obviously a tough subject when you're a trainer or you're working in fitness. The workouts actually are the easy part. It, the nutrition's always the hard part. It's a religion part.

Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, and we talked about this whole, I feel deprived, and you actually mentioned that a couple times. And she said to me, you deprivation comes from being forced to do something. So if you change the mindset around, because if I stop something, if I'm eating cake every day, which is a silly example, but the same eating cake every day, and then I stop eating the cake, and then I'm like, man, I feel like I'm being deprived. I'm not because it's me that's deciding to not have the cake. If it was someone else that was forcing me and locking me up in a room and saying, no, you can't have any cake, That's what that's where the deprivation feeling comes from. But if it's

Starting point is 01:11:50 a voluntary choice, I'm not depriving myself. And some people think that this is, you know, semantics that doesn't make that big of a difference. No, it makes a fucking huge difference. The words that you use to describe the things that you do and the way you talk to yourself are feedback. You listen to your own words. So if I say to myself, I can't have cake, then it's gonna feel like I'm forced. Like, why can't I have it? Like I can, but someone says I can't,

Starting point is 01:12:18 and now I can't. Versus I don't want to, or I'm choosing not to. Now, some people have a problem with that, because they'll think to themselves and say, well, I do want to. No, you don't want to or I'm choosing not to. Now, some people have a problem with that because they'll think to themselves and say, well, I do want to. No, you don't. The reality is you don't want to because you're choosing not to.

Starting point is 01:12:32 If you want it, then you choose to have it. And so you have to change that mentality where I understand the thing that you're in the driver seat. Yeah, I understand the allure of having that piece of cake and I acknowledge it like, yes, I like the taste. I like, you know, the texture. I like the way it smells. I enjoy it while I'm eating it.

Starting point is 01:12:52 So I know those things and I'm admitting those things to myself. I'm acknowledging those things. I'm honoring those things. But I don't want to have that cake. And I'm choosing not to have that cake, which is true, as much as you, is there's a battle within you to where one side of you understands the benefits, the good things you like about it, there's another side of you that also understands the bad sides of it.

Starting point is 01:13:17 And what you're doing is you're just making a choice and say that to yourself because when you feel empowered by that choice, it doesn't, because when you feel deprived at some point, you're going to give in. That's a shitty feeling to feel. Like, if you're feeling that. Yeah, and I think most bad habits, like, we feel like they happen. You know, like, this is something that's, like, keeps happening to me as opposed to, you know, recognizing that I have control and that I'm consciously making this decision. And for me, it's been the phone. And the phone has been my nemesis

Starting point is 01:13:50 because I keep getting in positions where I'm fixated on the couch, well, chaos is happening all around me. And then I recognize, I'm like, wow, how did I, and then there's 20 minutes that's gone by and I'm just staring at this fucking thing. And so I have had to reframe that. I've had to recognize like, I am consciously going to that place amidst chaos.

Starting point is 01:14:19 Like, I am, that is where I'm turning. As opposed to when I'm coming home. I'm deliberately now Consciously taking my phone jacking it into the charger and then I'm hands free And then if I have to check it I have to check it over where the charger is So if it get up you have to yeah, I have to like there's a lot more steps involved now to get you know back to that kind of place But yeah, it's ice to just justify it with work, justify it with people needing to get ahold of me, whatever the fuck it was,

Starting point is 01:14:52 it was always something that was outside of my handle, whereas that's stupid, that's my own fault. This is what happens with bad habits, by the way, is that, and this is a cycle that you can try to recognize in yourself. I recognize it myself, and it's very tough, because, you know, your ego or whatever you want to call it, doesn't fucking like it when someone else points it out, or when you even identify it in yourself, because what happens is you'll have a bad habit or a habit that you want to change. Is that even called bad? Just something you want to change. And when, like, like, what Justin was saying, like what you were saying about the phone, you will then, rather than admit to yourself that this is a cycle, that this is a habit, that this is something you want to change because that's painful. Change is always difficult, right? Changing a pattern, any pattern is

Starting point is 01:15:44 difficult. Think about it this way. It's like, imagine walking to, you know, your kid and you walk to school every single day, the same path. And then the next day, someone says, no, you gotta take a different way to get to school. It's gonna take a second to get used to that new way. There's a lot of unknowns there.

Starting point is 01:15:57 You know, the unknown is always difficult. You know, a pattern develops into a pattern because it's known, it's predictable. We know what's gonna happen. And we're surrounded by in a world of uncertainty. So it just makes us feel calm. That was your best analogy. You could come with that. What do you mean walking to school?

Starting point is 01:16:11 Yeah. I mean, it could be anything. It could be anything that you do a lot of. So what happens is, you know, when you're in this in this process of identifying what's going on, you have to break that cycle. You have to stop it or interrupt it and realize that what'll happen is you will justify it before you'll try to break it.

Starting point is 01:16:32 So if someone says to me, hey, man, you're on your phone too much, my instinct is gonna be to protect that. Yeah, it's gonna be to protect that safe feeling ritual because it feels safe, right? There's chaos all around you. I'm on my phone and it's predictable. I don't have to deal with, you know, or think about or feel what's going on around me.

Starting point is 01:16:52 So when someone says to me, hey man, you're on your phone, I'm gonna wanna say, yeah, but I work and most of my business, and it's automatically gonna wanna defend it. What you have to consider is you're constantly making, there's constant bargaining going on within yourself. The bargaining is between you now and you in the future. This is what you're bargaining with.

Starting point is 01:17:11 Sometimes what you do now takes from you in the future, and sometimes taking from you now gives you in the future. Here's a good example. If I have a thousand dollars of expendable income, I can spend that thousand dollars on a weekend in, let's say, a weekend at a nice restaurant going out getting drinks and just really extravigant time, which is paying me now because in the moment I'm having a good time, I'm enjoying myself, but it's taking that thousand dollars away from me in the future.

Starting point is 01:17:41 Or I can say to myself, I also want to get that car. I need to get a new car. My car might be breaking down here pretty soon. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to bargain with me now and I'm going to say to myself, you know what, you're not going to enjoy yourself right now, but you're going to trade this for something in the future. And so that's another process you can use

Starting point is 01:18:00 with the bad habit. What am I trading this habit with? I like what you originally said, because I think it's a lot like, you know, we talk about, you know, workout, but not because you don't like yourself, but workout because you love yourself, right? I think the same thing goes for the bad habits. I don't look at it like you said earlier, I can't have this or I'm depriving myself of this. Absolutely, I can. I'm a fucking grown S-man, you do whatever I want, you know, and I will have a soda again, I will do some of these things again,

Starting point is 01:18:27 but I also wanna do that in moderation. I think that I'm not doing the best for my body and I wanna feel healthy and I wanna feel good and I wanna make sure that I'm fueling it properly and I know that when I'm doing some of these bad habits, I'm not optimizing that, I know I'm not, and so that's, for me, it's like getting back to that because I'm not serving not. And so that's for me, it's like getting

Starting point is 01:18:45 back to that because I'm not serving myself. And so it's still a bargain though, right? Because you're bargaining like the taste of the soda now. It's more of a mind. It's just more of a mind shift. It's more of a instead of this being a negative thing. It's more of a positive thing. I'm excited to do that because what I what I'm looking at is, you know, I want to see how much if I notice I feel better. I've noticed my digest and if I'm excited to do that because what I'm looking at is, I wanna see how much, if I notice I feel better. I've noticed my digest and if I'm not doing these nasty burps all of a sudden, I notice that I feel more hydrated.

Starting point is 01:19:11 If I start to notice maybe a difference in energy, I'm looking for the benefits that getting rid of this bad habit is going to, and I'm trying to connect those dots to that, which is gonna make me wanna refrain from this thing again. It's not to say that I still won't indulge or enjoy it again one time, but if I can trying to connect those dots to that, which is gonna make me wanna refrain from this thing again. It's not to say that I still won't indulge or enjoy it again one time, but if I can learn to connect the dots to the positive benefits of eliminating this bad habit,

Starting point is 01:19:33 then I'm more likely to stick with it being out of my life and be motivated to not wanna reintroduce it. You know what's cool about habits? Because, again, when I think of a habit, I think of something that becomes a cycle, this unaware cycle that I just do, do, do, and I'm not necessarily aware I'm doing it. You know what's cool about habits? Because, again, when I think of a habit, I think of something that becomes a cycle, this unaware cycle that I just do, do, do, and I'm not necessarily aware I'm doing it. You know what's cool about this?

Starting point is 01:19:49 Because we're in fitness, I can connect this to a bad recruitment pattern when you're working out. So when you think of, if you're squatting a particular way, and that's how you've always squatted, and it's not the ideal way for your joints, in order to change that recruitment pattern, because that pattern has become your default pattern, and that's what I think I have it. It's almost like your default pattern.

Starting point is 01:20:11 In order to change that default pattern, there's a few things you need to do, and one of them is to replace it with something else and practice the fuck out of it. It's almost like you have to break a cycle with a new cycle, so you can get out of it, and then you can look back and be like, you know, what's going on. So identifying triggers is a big one. If you know you always smoke when you take a break and you go outside, then maybe you take a break and you don't go outside. Not to say you should never go outside, but just to kind of break that cycle.

Starting point is 01:20:39 Or maybe you know that when you're stressed out, you tend to bite your fingernails. So what you do now is you say to yourself, when I'm stressed out, I am going to... Breathe. Yeah, do this other thing. Yeah, whatever it is. Do this other thing, and I'm gonna replace this new, this recruitment pattern, for example,

Starting point is 01:20:58 with a new... Why is biting your nails such a bad thing? I've always wondered that one. Yeah. Why is that a bad thing? I think it's just because it doesn't look good and you're always putting your hands in your mouth. That's a stupid thing.

Starting point is 01:21:08 All both of those stupid reasons. I think it could. I mean, we probably evolved using our teeth to fucking probably keep our fucking fingernails clean most of our lives. Maybe people just see it. I mean, it's a nasty thing. It's only been probably in the last 100 to 200 years

Starting point is 01:21:19 do we get tools to actually do that? So why is it? Why is it picking your fingers and public grids? Right, I'm not justifying that. I just know that's one that people commonly say, like, oh, nail biting is such a bad habit, but is it really? Dude, so that's something that people

Starting point is 01:21:33 just think it's gross. That's all right. That's something that I've always struggled with since I was a young kid. And then I read, what about the cracking of knuckles? That's not it. I read this, I wasn't reading it in a book, I think it was an encyclopedia.

Starting point is 01:21:47 And they were showing, I don't remember the name of the type of warts, but warts inside the mouth. And there was a picture, because if you ever look at like medical things in encyclopedias, they always show you the picture of the worst case scenario. And there was this fucking picture of this dude opening his mouth and his mouth hat was just

Starting point is 01:22:06 covered in clusters of warts and they were talking about how this particular condition, some people need surgery to remove them. And then underneath it, it talked about risk factors and one of them was people who bite their nails. Because they'd pick up the virus on their hands, scared the fuck out of me. And after that, I've always made a shit.

Starting point is 01:22:24 I know right after that I remember reading that I was like oh shit and they became more conscious of not doing that anymore. More mouth! Next question is Taylor Rian. What are your thoughts on the best personality type for those in the fitness industry? Do you have advice on getting into personal training if you have a more reserved personality? Do the necessary people skills just come with time and experience or are there techniques and habits? One could implement in order to be more relatable and approachable for clients.

Starting point is 01:22:55 That's a big question. That's a really good question. If you have extravert qualities about you, if you like to go up to people and talk to them and start up a conversation. It'll be easier. It'll make being a personal trainer exponentially easier. Does that guarantee you're gonna be successful? Nope.

Starting point is 01:23:14 It just makes it easier because part of your job is going to be going and getting new clients when you first start. Now that being said, I've had several trainers in fitness professionals work for me who were not good at that. So that was the part of the job that they weren't good at. But on the flip side, they were so good at training their clients, developing relationships

Starting point is 01:23:37 with their clients, being consistent with their clients, you know, where their clients trusted them to where they didn't have to go out and prospect as much because when they got clients, they kept them for a very, very, very long time. So I think it's just one factor, it makes things easier, but at the end of the day, it's only one of many factors. It's one of the top five. If you were to say the top five factors that make a good personal trainer, it for sure

Starting point is 01:24:03 is top five, but just like you're saying, I've had many, I mean, Justin's an example. This Justin wasn't Mr. fucking, you know, loud outgoing personality and talking to people all over the place. Like he was a quiet, more reserved trainer, but he excelled on the training part, like way beyond most of the average trainers, right?

Starting point is 01:24:21 So I think if you're not gonna have that, then you probably need to separate yourself somewhere else, right? So I think if you're not going to have that, then you probably need to separate yourself somewhere else, right? So if that's somewhere you really lack, then you want to be on your, you better be one of the smarter trainers when it comes to nutrition, one of the smarter trainers when it comes to biomechanics, and you do really good maybe one-on-one privately where you're just talking to that one person. I think that needs to happen. Because then you have, I'm an example of the opposite, right? I was a terrible trainer.

Starting point is 01:24:49 My first probably five years as a personal trainer. And I know that's me being a little hard on myself, but it's being true. I think that I had a lot of personality, clients, people naturally liked me as a person. Therefore, it was easier for me to get clients and train people, but as far as my programming, my level of education and nutrition, it was very minimal back then. And so, what I was good at was I was good at taking a little

Starting point is 01:25:16 bit of information that I had learned. I also knew too that if I was a trainer and they were buying training for me, I probably knew more than them. Like even if it was only a little bit more, I knew a little bit more. And so I stuck to what I knew a little bit more than the people that were hiring me. And I was really good at sharing that information. I was really good at giving you the little bit of information that I've learned at that point

Starting point is 01:25:37 at 20 something years old and providing that to people. But I wasn't an expert by any means. There was lots of other trainers that were way smarter than I was. Now over time, the education and experience, then that all developed. After we've gotten a bunch of certifications and have been training for 10 plus years

Starting point is 01:25:53 and thousands of clients, well now I've formed into being a really good trainer when it comes to nutrition and mechanics and then I'm still that personable person. Yeah, I mean, I think you definitely nailed the fact that that was something that I had to develop. You know, and that was, I can identify with this on some level. I mean, I, I wouldn't consider myself a super introvert,

Starting point is 01:26:15 you know, going into, especially in a one-on-one setting. I think it's more for me, the intimidation was the unknown and getting into a group setting where I had to kind of lead and then communicate to everybody. That was always something that I really struggled with. But this is something that you can develop. And if you're a growth-minded person, you can work on this and you can get better at it. And it's not like these definitions that we put in place of who we are and our identity is not fixed and that is something that you know You you definitely have the power to get outside of that and and and become become something else like Be like own it more as a strength and whether it's whether it's like the ultimate strength that people can identify with,

Starting point is 01:27:05 that's one of the characteristics that stands out about you, maybe not, but at the same time, it's not a weakness anymore. How did you do it? What did you do? How did you work on this part? Well, because I know in the environment that we all worked in, yeah, that was a cluster fuck.

Starting point is 01:27:20 It was a big, busy gym, and that was incompeditive with other trainers. It was competitive, it was very fast paced, it was like sort of sink or swim. And me, like even before that, I had some bit of effort in that direction, like having responsibility being a leader on, you know, position in the football team. I used to be able to just handle myself, handle everything that I did. I would do perfectly by myself, no accountability, people just know I would get it done.

Starting point is 01:27:52 And then it became, now I have to lead other people and instruct. And so that became a challenge for me. And I had to evolve. And I had to, you know, sharpen those skills. And then getting into jobs, I started pursuing more jobs where it was more in a social setting,

Starting point is 01:28:09 like waiting tables, like becoming a bartender, like I had to honestly work on my small talk. And that seems so ridiculous, but it is definitely something that I benefited from, just being able to come up and conjure up a conversation where I felt like, this is such a dumb conversation, but at the same time, I need to ease people

Starting point is 01:28:34 into this environment. And so taking that and then starting to try to really refine that and build that comfortable dialogue with people immediately. It took a lot of fucking reps and also forcing yourself. Yeah, just immersing myself and then going on to the floor and introducing myself as somebody that works there and staff and then just trying to be more relatable and understand the potential, like the members there. Like I wanted to understand where they're coming from,

Starting point is 01:29:07 like get to know them. And I mean, that was hard, man. Like I didn't care. I just cared about what I was doing. And so I had to just get outside of that. So it's literally, it's reps. It's reps, reps, reps. And it's starting to sort of eliminate all these restrictions that you yourself are

Starting point is 01:29:29 putting in front of you. You're telling yourself that you're not good at that. Fuck that. Be better at it. And just completely tackle it with a different mindset. So it's funny for me with this particular type of question. In the gym, I'm extreme extrovert. I'm super talked to everybody, make it happen.

Starting point is 01:29:49 I'll get on the intercom, I'll make it an outstand on the front desk, make it an announcement to the whole gym. No problem, but I'm not actually an extrovert. I'm kind of both and it depends on the environment. Like, it put me in a different environment and I'll have a tough time just going up and just talking to random people. Once I start, it's not a problem, but I'm not super extroverted,

Starting point is 01:30:09 but it's funny, the gym environment I was. As soon as I was in the gym, and as soon as I had on the shirt that showed that I worked at this place, because I felt that sense of authority, like okay, now I work here, and this is what I'm supposed to do, then it was the fear, all it was was the fear was gone.

Starting point is 01:30:27 Now I can talk to anybody and have a great time about it and it was like a complete, like I was a completely different person. Probably one of the reasons why I fell in love with it is because working in gyms brought the best out of me in that regard and that particular regard. That was the absolute best. If only I had those skills at a party,

Starting point is 01:30:47 talking to girls and stuff. And I wasn't super introverted there either, but I wasn't like I was in the gym. Like in the gym, I was a superstar from day one, is because I felt like it was my space, and I could just talk to anybody and have a great time. And I was getting, I had 30 clients before I was certified. They put me in there as a trainer to learn from other trainers

Starting point is 01:31:08 for, I had two weeks, they gave me two weeks until the certification class came up. And so they said, you know what, you could start, and for the next two weeks, you could do these orientations with other trainers. And I got myself 30 clients, and all of them waited for me to get certified, and it was 100% because I was fearless, and I just myself 30 clients and all of them waited for me to get certified and it was 100% because I was fearless and I just talked to people.

Starting point is 01:31:29 One of the hardest things about talking to people in general, but especially in the gym, is that initial part of the conversation, the break, like how do I start the conversation? Once a conversation gets going, it's a lot easier for most people. So here's an easy tip, super, super easy tip. One of the easiest things you could do

Starting point is 01:31:49 is park yourself at the front desk. When people walk in, you scan their card, introduce yourself. It's an easy way to start the conversation. Rather than walking in on somebody, doing a workout who's already kind of in their space, that feels so much more forced and so much more difficult. The second thing that I would recommend is for you to give something away, whether it's free sessions or t-shirts or advice or free guest passes,

Starting point is 01:32:17 make an announcement on the intercom, then people come to you and now you don't have to break that conversation. And the third tip I can give you is this. One of the easiest ways you could break into a conversation is to compliment someone or comment on something that you see either in the gym or that they're wearing. So like when I was out in public, one of my favorite ways to talk to people about personal training or the gym was I would go up to a random stranger and I'd be like, hey, where do you work out at?

Starting point is 01:32:44 And it was, people are kind of like, huh? They take it as a compliment because they assume I think they work out and people will always answer and they'll either say, oh, I work out at this gym or, oh, I don't work out. And then that opens up the conversation and it's way, way easier. I think it's also worth considering that maybe fitness isn't for you. And I know that that that stings for somebody asking a question like this, but I also wouldn't recommend somebody who doesn't like cars to be a mechanic. And

Starting point is 01:33:12 if you're not a people person and really into that, then you really got to have this deep passion for the mechanics and the nutrition piece. Like I just, to me, it's a top five quality in a person that you need to have to be a successful personal trainer. And, you know, if you're not really passionate about people and conversing and doing that, it's not to say you can't be successful, Justin gave great examples of, you know,

Starting point is 01:33:36 but he's very passionate about sports performance and mechanics and training and... And I'm just passionate about helping people. And I think that that's the underlying thing that people read, right? How passionate are you about helping me? Right and I think that so this to me is something that you have to evaluate that like there's no reason to force yourself into an industry that you potentially are not going to love all the aspects of it, especially one of the major aspects which is communicating with others.

Starting point is 01:34:07 There's a lot of things that you can do within fitness that's not personal training too. You don't have to go that route. You could do other other aspects of the business and maybe leaning more towards one of your strengths. So, because I've let go of a lot of trainers too that try to force this issue. Very, very common to get somebody

Starting point is 01:34:23 who's fresh out of school from Kines, and I meet him and they've got the education and they understand things, but then they don't have a really good ability to give that information to the people. They've got all this great stored knowledge in their brain and then asked them to communicate that to a client who probably doesn't give to shits, how smart they are,

Starting point is 01:34:44 and they struggle with it, and they struggle a lot with it. And so if you're somebody who struggles with that, it may not be the career for you. I hate to say it, but there's a lot of things that make up a good personal trainer, but if we were to take the most successful trainers, and we were to go to the end on that,

Starting point is 01:35:01 you know, particular scale and say, okay, who are the top, you know, 15% successful trainers in the US. Every single one of them has an awesome personality. It's just the bottom line. Yeah. Like clients want to work out with people. Right. That's the thing out with.

Starting point is 01:35:15 And it is, there's, and here's a problem with personality is a lot of people think it's a fixed attribute because there's such a strong biological component and of course the way you were raised component. But the reality is, yes, you do have your potential, whatever that is, but it's a skill that can totally be developed, 100%. I mean, Justin talked about bartending and waiting tables, 100% that contributed to his ability to approach people when he finally became a trainer, because he practiced it because it was a skill. You could almost argue that it's something that everybody developed and I just, I was forced to develop it at a very young age. Being somebody who moved in nine different homes, had different schools, I had to make friends.

Starting point is 01:35:59 And as a kid who wants to play and play sports and do things, I wanted to have friends more than I cared about being embarrassed or how, no matter how much, because it wasn't like it was easy for me when I was younger to go walk up to a group of kids that didn't know and start talking or walk up to a girl and ask her out. I guess I remember getting butterflies and being nervous

Starting point is 01:36:17 and saying stupid shit, but real early on, I learned that the repetition thing that you're talking to what you're talking about, I got better at it. Like the first time was tough, but then the second time was a little, it was less tough, and the third time was less tough than that.

Starting point is 01:36:31 And then before long, I started to pick up on it that, you know what, like, this isn't that hard. And you know, what is the worst thing that could happen? They say no, or they don't like me, or what I think, that's the absolute worst. Like, so what? This is, yeah, it gets you over the fear. Right.

Starting point is 01:36:46 That's what the barrier is. And this is why I've worked with a lot, and I've known a lot of really great sales people in my life. I've known, I know the real estate agent who's makes several million dollars a year in commissions off selling homes, one of the top real estate agents

Starting point is 01:37:05 in the country. I've known car salesmen have known salespeople for insurance companies and tech companies who are making tremendous amounts of money, you know, investment bankers who are very good at selling products, you do very, very well. But by far the best salespeople I've ever known in my life, believe it or not, were the top salespeople

Starting point is 01:37:25 that I knew who sold gym memberships. And it wasn't because, you know, that there's some magic, you know, or whatever that attracts the best people, it's because when you're selling a gym membership, you have about a 30 minute to one out, 30 to 60 minute sales cycle. And you'll have anywhere between three to 15 of those

Starting point is 01:37:42 or more in a day, depending on how big your gym is. And so people who sell gym memberships get a shit ton of reps. Like if you're a good salesperson in a really busy gym, you're gonna serve in Teenville. You are going to probably do, I don't know, 300 to 500, maybe even a thousand sales presentations in a month. So it's yes or no, yes or no, yes or no,

Starting point is 01:38:07 close or walk, close or walk. And you're doing so many reps, you get so damn good at selling that. I know several sales people that work for me and sold memberships who were good at selling memberships who then left the fitness industry and now are millionaires in their respected fields because and they all told me the same thing.

Starting point is 01:38:23 I got a buddy who sells insurance, and he's like, he would message me, and he'd be like, dude, he goes, this is fucking easy. He's like, this is way easier than selling memberships, and I'm killing these guys. All these guys are terrible at closing, he's like, I'm so much better than they are, and then I have another friend who did,

Starting point is 01:38:38 you know, home loans or whatever, same thing. He's like, this is so easy. Like I can close people so easy because of those repetitions. So think of that, test yourself out, try it out. Something else you could do is you can enroll in classes that might help you become more comfortable improv classes are excellent for this. In fact, improv classes have been recommended

Starting point is 01:38:59 to sales people for a long time because it gets you comfortable acting out. I'm glad you went that way too because Sales is so directly related to this having a reserved or not so normally if you have a reserved personality You also struggle with sales too. Hmm rarely ever do I meet somebody who's like reserved with like I'm fucking great at sales though So typically you're if you're reserved you because you I mean It's hard enough to ask someone to be your friend or ask a girl on a date, asking somebody for $5,000 to invest in you

Starting point is 01:39:28 is a whole nother monster. They don't even know you. I would way rather ask some girl that I've never met before a walk up tour and say, would you like to go up for dinner on Friday, then to ask somebody who I just spent maybe 30 minutes to an hour with, can I get $5,000? That's a much more challenging situation.

Starting point is 01:39:43 Getting five grand from someone is way harder than asking somebody on a date on Friday that you're gonna pay for the fucking dinner. I bet there's some people who disagree right now. There's some people who are nothing like me. No way man. Sure, but it's all the same. But for sure there's people that disagree with me,

Starting point is 01:39:56 but why is that? That's their own insecurities because they're afraid of no end rejection. Yes. Once you start to go who gives a fuck about no end rejection and you really truly have that attitude, then it's really not that scary at all. And you're really not asking for much.

Starting point is 01:40:07 You're asking to buy someone a dinner on Friday night. You're not asking a lot. It's not that hard. The worst thing that can happen. Your dates are getting hotter and hotter. She says no, but tell him. I'm not one. Asking somebody for thousands of dollars

Starting point is 01:40:19 for personal training potentially, that is tough. And that takes some skill. And it takes some good conversational skills to lead somebody into being able to say, yes to a question like that. And so if you have a reserve personality and you struggle with something like that, you're gonna have an uphill battle

Starting point is 01:40:36 being a personal trainer because really, and I used to hate that people don't talk about this enough in fitness, I would say 80% of your job is sales. It really is. Of course. It's not programming and nutrition calculating and getting smarter when it comes to that stuff. That's a very small percent.

Starting point is 01:40:54 It really is. The biggest percent of it is communication and selling. And even when you're not technically selling as I do the air quotes, you really are. Because you're selling every single session. Yes. As you're on the floor and you're teaching mechanics, you're also, you should be selling too while you're doing that. You're trying to convince people

Starting point is 01:41:10 to completely change their lifestyle so they can get better health. You better fucking sell that shit. You better sell it really good. Well, they're not gonna do it. And there's nothing, it's not tangible, so it's even more challenging, right? We'll show in somebody a $100,000 Mercedes

Starting point is 01:41:24 who's already at the Mercedes dealership who's looking to buy a Mercedes, isn't really as hard of a sales you think it is, try getting someone walking in the gym and then painting the picture of what health and fitness looks like for them. Oh, and by the way, you gotta change your lifestyle every day.

Starting point is 01:41:37 Change how you eat every day. And by the way, you're gonna pay me right now, but you're not gonna get to see it for six months. Yeah, so it's like, could you imagine selling a Mercedes for a hundred grand, and you can't do all the work. You don't get to see it for six months. Yeah, so it's like, could you imagine selling a Mercedes for a hundred grand and say, you gotta do all the work. You don't get to drive it for a year? You can buy this Mercedes, but then you have to build it.

Starting point is 01:41:51 So you gotta get a couple hours a day building it. You gotta learn how to build it. You gotta learn all about the Mercedes. Nothing sexy. You've had to do the parts. Nothing sexy about that. So I mean, I like to keep it real with people that ask good questions like this, because I think it's a very good question.

Starting point is 01:42:04 But in my experience, I've had an opportunity to probably I don't know lead and manage well over a few hundred personal trainers and you know having people skills that you can develop Is a big part of the gym so if you're if you're not comfortable with doing that and maybe you don't like sales You might want to reconsider what exactly you do in fitness and maybe personal training clients may not be the best thing. Hey, you know what, I've been getting, I've been thinking about this for a second, that there's a lot of listeners that maybe don't follow us on our social media outlet of choice, which is Instagram. So if you're not following us, go check us out on Instagram.

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