Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 701: Dangers of Personal Care Products, Healthiest & Unhealthiest Sports for Your Body, Tips for Starting a Podcast & MORE

Episode Date: February 7, 2018

Organifi Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the importance of all natural products for your body such as deodorant, face wash, toothpaste, etc, what we might be doing now that we think is right that we might discover is wrong later, advice for someone who wants to start podcasting and the healthiest and unhealthiest sport for your body. Super Bowl breakdown. The guys talk about being on top vs. being the underdog. (4:53) Weekend Recap (15:45) Justin and his wife visit Seattle Sal and his girlfriend celebrate their birthdays in Napa Adam and his girl take trip to Carmel What is more important, mental or physical health? The guys give personal examples and give their opinions. (28:18) Quah question #1 – In your opinion, what is the importance of all natural products for your body such as deodorant, face wash, toothpaste, etc.? 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If you want to pump your body and expand. Yeah, that's like basketball, right? Yeah, it's totally. Then we talk about rooting for underdogs and those who have stayed on top. Why is it that we always want the underdog to win? Why is everybody hating on Tom Brady? What's going on here? That's weak.

Then we talk about Justin's Seattle trip, my Napa trip, and then Adams, where'd you go, Adam? I went up to Bernartis up in Carmel Valley. And Adams Bernartis trip. We really didn't talk about my Bernartis trip. We didn't talk that much. We talked about it all actually. Yeah.

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Then we get into the questions. The first question was, in our opinion, how important are all natural skin care and cosmetic type products, like deodorant, face wash and toothpaste. This particular individual is a struggling college student. Save money, have some stinky pits. Want to know if it makes sense to save money and get the other stuff or buy the more natural stuff, we talk about that.

We're good drummer. Stay away from Petrule oil. Exactly, exactly. The next question was, as a human race, we tend to think we have all the answers and then, you know, 10 years later, we find out, oh shit, it gives us cancer or something else crazy. All right, what do we think about stuff today? Like, let's speculate. What do we think that we're doing now that in the future, we're going to look back on and

be like, you were wrong. Hmm. The next question was, do we have any advice for people who want to start podcasting? It's funny because I can think of three people now who have a podcast who originally were listeners of Mind Pump who said that our show inspired them to start their own podcast. Oh, three? There's three that I can think of.

Oh, I know, at least seven or eight of them. And a couple of them are actually pretty successful. So we give some podcasting advice. If you're thinking about building your own brand, building your own business, or you just wanna get your voice out, we talk a little bit about that in this episode. And the last question,

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Chicken, chicken, chicken. Whoa. Oh, he's got the chicken now. Oh boy. Oh boy. He's got the chicken now. Did you, I know you're allergic to sports, but do you watch the Super Bowl

or do you not even watch the Super Bowl? I caught a glimpse of it because it broke out in high This weekend, well this weekend I was in Napa and St. Helina with Jessica and we were celebrating our birthdays and doing that whole thing and we went to a bar Not a bar like a restaurant, but they had a bar so I could see see the Super Bowl was on. And when I looked at the Super Bowl, it was, there was eight minutes left in the fourth quarter. Phil Adelfield was it, I wanna say 32 and New England was 33.

I think they were only ahead by a point. But I guess apparently, Philly won. Yeah, Philly won. It was incredible. So they were behind by one and then they won, huh? I don't know if that's the way the scoring went or not if that's correct. It was like, there was like really close. Yeah, the whole game was close. The whole game was was never, I don't think anyone ever was ahead by a touchdown.

It was always, oh, actually, I take that back. There was a 10 point lead that Philly had at one point. Is there for aible, right? Yeah, they never won us. Yeah, yeah, it's a big, there's a big goal. I heard they celebrated by destroying their city again. I think it was the 60s they won or the last time they won. No, I don't think they've ever won.

I don't think they ever have. I thought they didn't like the 60s. No, there's a, there's the, remember there's the, the Philadelphia Eagle story that, what's this face play? Oh yeah, Markey Mark. Yeah, Markey Mark played that guy or what, face play? Yeah, Marky Mark. Yeah, Marky Mark played that guy or what, but they haven't won a Super Bowl.

Wow, yeah, that's well congrats. But what a, it was just an incredible game. I'm so, I'm not even a Patriots fan or an Eagles fan, but I do, I do like, there's a lot of my friends that are rooting against Tom Brady and I know a lot of people wanted to see him lose because they hate the Patriots, Whatever. I'm the opposite. When I see something like, I'm so impressed by him and the Patriots as a team and as a whole and as an organization that I enjoy

watching history happen. Like I want to be able to say that I was alive and I watched Joe Montana, Steve Young, Peyton Manning, and now Tom Brady, who in my opinion is the greatest of all time, and I don't think it's even debatable, but obviously there's still people out there like my uncle. So, do the picture, that's, what's interesting, people hate on greatness. You know, and it's like, I've always been the opposite.

You know, like if you recognize greatness and you can see somebody in their abilities far surpassed everybody else's it's for a reason. I don't know if it's so much that people hate on greatness as much as people like to see an underdog do well. You know what I mean? Because no, there's no. I think it's I think it's a lot of life too.

I think that's true too. So I don't think you're wrong there, but I'm with Justin that I think that look at it like how people even look at people look at Not not even sports related just success like I Meet somebody I meet somebody. Let's use we'll use Bradley Martin as an example because I think he's Built his name and success a different way than then mine pump has I think a lot of people want to judge judge him that do it differently right and I've just never been that way. I'm fascinated by someone like that.

I see someone like that. And somebody else may watch their videos and go like, oh, he's doing stupid stuff or who cares. And oh, he's not small. Like they're gonna pick him apart. It's all small stuff, though. Like if he was a real dick and like, you know, he was like, he cheated like crazy.

Which I know there's people that'll say that he's done a lot of cheating in this and that. But, you know, he was like, he cheated like crazy, which I know there's people that will say that he's done a lot of cheating and this and that. But, you know, for me, it's like, it's way, way more challenging to always be on top. Right. It's so much harder. The underdog thing is cool, you know, but being on top and staying on top is way far from hard. It's what the warriors are dealing with right now. So if you watch the warriors play sports right now or play games, you know, they, they

are arguably one of the best dynasties ever right now. Or they're paving the way of being one of the greatest dynasties ever right now. And I've watched every game this season. And it's crazy because every team, like they just lost the other day to it, like an average team Utah, Utah's a terrible team. And it's crazy because every team, like they just lost the other day to a, like an average team Utah, Utah's a terrible team. But everybody brings their best game night in night because you're playing the fucking, your pain, but it gets way more motivated.

Right. Cause their team is going to go down in history and you're, you're, at this time where you're at in your career on this other team, you, nobody knows who you are. Nobody knows about that team. No one cares about Utah. No one talks about them right now because there's nothing special going on over there. But yet, if you can be the team that beats the Warriors because they seem to be so unbeatable by everybody, it's such a big deal.

So staying on top is a mother fucker. There's a patriot to the same way. There's a couple psychological situations that happen with that. Like if you're the winner, the champion, I should say, if you consistently win, you've got a little bit of an advantage in the sense that you have this aura of invincibility or this, you know, I believe. Yeah, I can, and you feel that, and your opponents may even feel that. They may, they may even be intimidated by that, but on the flip side, if you're the kind of person that's driven by, you know, beating the best, it may backfire.

The thing I think about underdogs is when you're watching a sport or a competition, I don't care what it is, I don't care if it's a physical sport or it's business or any other thing that's competition, you as a spectator, you as an observer, you tend to identify with the underdog more than the champion because most people consider themselves an underdog, most people consider themselves the best at everything. You know what I'm saying? Like when you see someone struggle from the bottom, you're like, you know what that guy's just like me?

And they can project themselves. And Americans in particular, I mean... I wonder if it says something about us though, like how you do view that, like, because I agree with that also, but I also, I like with Justin, where I view an athlete like that, and I'm more, I'm impressed.

I'm not even a Patriots fan, but yeah, I like appreciate watching greatness, instead of being threatened by it, and like rooting for them to lose. I'm like, I'm rooting for them to keep going. I'm like, fuck me. Well, I'll give you an example. Let's say you're watching fight because, and I'm using a fight as an example,

because it's so clear. There's only two people, right, boxing or whatever MMA. And there's a guy that's just undefeated. You want to see, or you'll love the person more. If you see the champion struggle to remain the champion. Like if he goes through wars, but then still wins, then you're like, fuck, he's a, you know, the champion versus he just blows everybody away. And it's really easy.

Still going to get lots of respect and all that, but just from an identification, you know, standpoint, you want to see that, that kind of challenge. A good example of that is when Muhammad Ali fought Chuckppner, which is a, that's a, that's a, you find the story on him yet? Did you watch it? I never watched it on the thing. Oh my god. I knew a lot about it because it was so.

Oh, you need to watch it. I'm such a rocky fan, you know, so I've read about the story and I've seen the fight, the actual fight, you can watch the video of it, where Muhammad Ali won't be the greatest fighters of all time. See, the Brooklyn brawler, right? No, the Bronx, the Bronx. The Bronx, the Brunkton bleeder. Oh, that's brawler, right? No, the Bronx. The Bronx, the Bronx.

The Brunkton bleeder. Oh, that's it. Yeah, yeah. So he's the guy that was an exhibition fight, and he fights, you know, Muhammad Ali is the best fighter of all time, arguably, fight some regular dude, some regular Joe Shmo, and everybody expects him to just beat the crap out of this guy. And the guy goes the whole distance while Muhammad Ali pounds on them and the crowd switch they start because at first they were laughing like oh Muhammad Ali against this guy

but then the crowd the crowd switched and started rooting for him and that was the story that motivated so I think I think more of that story to you if I remember correctly I could be wrong here but I could I think that the promoters the way he even got that fight was, they were, I think it was either Rocky Maseano or another, there was a white guy that they wanted to fight Muhammad Ali. He was like the next best white guy available. But he was not even even in the, should have been the next competitor, even have a shot at fighting Muhammad Ali.

So he was already a crazy long shot. They just wanted to play the whole black and white card. And so that was the whole idea of letting him even fight that fight. And then he had a nowhere, puts together like this amazing fight and almost win. No, we like to see people who are like us. So, you know, every day people succeed.

But once people succeed and stay there, we want to keep them down. Yeah, and then people like, Oh, you're not like us. It's like a bunch of pranas. So weird, you're not like us anymore. I mean, it's so weak to me. Yeah.

See, I am, I'm so, it's that story, right? But you know what, I don't think that's everyone. I think there's people like, I don't, I don't care for that as much. I love to see greatness. I love to see somebody who continues to persevere through yet everybody trying to knock you down. Cause like, just said, I agree like staying on top is way harder than the, you know, everybody trying to knock you down. Cause like just said, I agree like staying on top is way harder than the, you know, everybody's got them for you.

Right, right. It's way way tougher to do that. Pressure just, you know, just increases substantially with every single bout, you know, and it's, I don't know. I'd, so I want to see how far they can stretch. Right. You know, like our abilities is human being. That's how I look at it too.

You know, like I want to see how great we can get Pro like individually and as a team Tom Brady is 41. How can you not want to see that guy win? Nobody's ever done the shit He's done. Well, that's the see that's part of it. How do you not want to see him? That's true and that's part of it because he has this this symbolic weakness of age now Now, I remember watching Randy Cotor. I love Randy Cotor. First off, the dude is just a hard worker. But the reason why he's the root for him is because he was this old guy

beaten up on these younger dudes. He's supposed to lose, but he keeps winning. So it's more like, it makes you more excited to watch this guy kind of persevere against those kind of odds or whatever. Oh, for sure. And I'm just as much of a fan of him also. I just think it's so amazing to see.

It is pretty fascinating. Yeah, at that level. Yeah, the amount of work that you have to go in just to maintain that body at that age. 41, bro. Getting hit in the NFL. That fucking next level, she makes me feel like such a pussy. I know.

I tore my Achilles all by myself. All by myself. Nobody around me do play playing a pickup game. I can't read anymore. I got glasses. Where did you guys watch it? Are we at the home? I actually only caught the last like the third quarter into the fourth because I was flying

in still from Seattle. So I listened to a lot of it. Like there was people that had it on their phone, on their iPad, and you know, and we're streaming it. And so I was like over the shoulder looking their phone, on their iPad, and we're streaming it. And so I was like over the shoulder looking, you know, trying to get in. And I was like, fuck, of course, it's like a great game, you know, like super epic game for a football game. And that's just the irony of it.

But yeah, I did catch the last bit of it. And it was pretty fucking gripping. Now you were in Seattle, you had a night because we all did trips this weekend. Yeah, man. Which you guys do. We, because we all did trips this weekend. Yeah, man. What did you guys do? We just caught up. We did exactly what the plan was. I mean, the weather was sort of challenging, but it's kind of expected going into Seattle. It's not going to be like sunshine, especially in 70 degrees.

Yeah. So it's like, we were prepared. We brought clothes for that. So it was totally cool. And we got a place off of East Lake where we could walk and get coffee every morning and check out some of the nature. And we went out a few nights to different places. I met up with my cousin, Livzerr.

And I don't know if I told you, but so she used to live with me for like five years when I was a kid and really exposed me to a lot of really cool underground music. When I was supposed to be at church, she'd take me to misfits concerts. She's my cool family member that would take me to cool stuff. So I expected that from her. I put a lot of pressure on her.

Listen, this is your town. You take me out, show me a good time. And so Saturday night we hung out with her and did some fun shit. We went in all these different bars and then she took us to some place that was like, like I guess it's a thing to have. Like I felt like such an old, old, you know,

like you have like the kid section we were supposed to go to this concert that was like all ages and it was a bunch of teeny-boppers and like we said, a lot of you said teeny-boppers. They're a bunch of teeny-boppers, dude. You know, they were watching, I used that term too. Yeah, the Toasters, which is like a Skophunk band, old school band, but there was only like two tickets left, there was like four of us, we were like, I fuck that.

So we ended up going to like her friend had some, rented some room and there's this old building that's devoted to karaoke. And so like you go in there, you bring your own booze and you just hang out with your friends, like 10 friends, 15 friends, and they have like a projector and like in this soundproof room,

everybody's just like beltin belting out whatever the fuck, you know, they just put on for karaoke and it sounds like totally lame, but it was like so much fun. And we were just rocking out and jumping in. So you said karaoke? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Courtney was just gonna go, my God.

It was just you and you and your wife, right? Yeah, that's good, man. Yeah, we just caught out, had a great time just, you know, sort of being adults again and like having real conversations and just getting away from everything. How long does it take you when you go on a trip? How's this gonna last that same question? You were, yeah, cause we get bored.

No. Oh, well. That didn't happen. You know, where you like, like, first I'm sure, first you're just, you're trying to decompress. You're just talking about the kids and stuff. Like, how long does it take before you guys are just you and her? You know what I mean? Yeah, that took a while.

I mean, the plane flight helped. So we, I mean, we were just started to kind of talk and stuff. Like she does, like, she hates flying. And so she has this like really anxious, nervous energy, like taking off. So she like grips the fuck out of my arm and almost gives me bruises. She's so wound up. And so I got her some booze.

And then she finally relaxed a little bit. And then yeah, and then we started to try and talk a bit. We fell asleep, passed out. And then yeah, you finally start to kind of get past work and kid conversation, and then we're like, oh yeah, you're a human being, I used to date you, you know, like we used to have this sort of chemistry. And it's like, you just need new experiences to start kind of resurrecting that, you know, that energy. And so it took us so. So it was so important.

So where we were finally like driving this piece of shit, rental car, and laughing about it, because it sounded like it was gonna blow up. Like, it sounded like I was stuck in one gear, and I'm like driving on the freeway, and we thought we were gonna die, because it was just struggling at 40 miles an hour. It's like, yeah!

And then I got to 16 16 and the whole thing started shaking and I swear I got that was gonna blow up. Where'd you rent your car for like, bucks, bucks, rent a car? It's called pay less. I was like, honey, where the fuck did you, like, where did you get this from? What deal was this?

This is obviously, I've never even heard of this company. This like Mazda, whatever car was just like a pure piece of shit, like like oh my god Like I thought the wheels are gonna follow now when you get when you guys both travel is to do the wives or the girls Take care of the the traveling everything like Flight and we'll just yeah normally like I don't know I kind of help we're with that on a lot of levels But like this was all her because she was doing it for my birthday as part of a thing that we're getting away.

So she kind of planned the whole thing. And so yeah, if it was up to me, I was like, I only do enterprise. You know, I'm doing stuff that I know. You know, pay the extra $50. I'll pay the extra. I'm not gonna, we were like it like seriously. I was scared.

You had doing like hosting. He's going to car service. Yeah, yeah, I was totally underground. There's like one person and you know Yeah, we have a car. It's like one car. It's like he takes the key for off his own keychain Yeah, it was super sketchy Super sketchy and I I booked I scheduled everything that we did because we went to Napa We did one of those resorts and got like spa treatment. Man, what a great spa treatment.

So this place that we stayed at the Maritage, they have a spa that's used to be, what is it when it's underground and sellers? Like that's where they would make them. Yeah, kind of like that, right? So it's underground in these caves. And this room that we had had a jacuzzi, they would make wine. Wine sellers. Yeah, I kinda like that, right? So it's underground in these caves, and this room that we had had a jacuzzi,

the artwork was spectacular, and it looked like a Roman. This is in your room, or is this in the massage area? This is in the massage area. Okay, I aspire, yeah. It's spa, and it was a tub, and so they let you go in the tub together and hang out, and there's bubbles,

and champagne, and chocolate, and whatever, and then we got a massage together, had a great dinner, what wine tasting the next day. Oh, here's what I did, that was fucking awesome. You guys have done wine tasting before, right? That's a lot of fun. There's a distillery in Napa now that does like a tour. It's the only distillery in Napa

because it was laws against them. And so now they're gonna be opening up more, but there's only one currently. And it's the Napa Valley distillery, I think it's called. So this dude comes, so I booked it all, I had booked it all ahead of time. So we get to the resort, check in our room, and then, you know, me and Jessica got a little bit of wine

at the resort, and then this limo comes and picks us up, and it's this like 1985, like old-school limo, blue with blue interior, but it was pristine. So it's kind of funny. So it's old limo. Wait a minute, I don't know what the style would be. Bartender, steampunk, he's got leather vest and he's got, you know, interesting facial hair and he, you know, hello, good day or whatever. And he picks us up in this really old, but nice and clean.

Now was this part of the, the distillery in place? That's distillery. Okay, so this wasn't like you ordered a lump of a lump of a lump. No, so it was a tour. And so what they do is they pick you up in this limo, we get in and it's so funny. I'm like clicking my seatbelt and looking at the inside of the limo I'm like this looks like my grandfather's car, you know, it's like and it was like high tech for its day

You know, so I'm kind of checking out a cell phone. It's that brick Yeah, so he drives us to distillery and he's going through and explaining the distill the distillation process Which was fascinating. He's explaining the science. He's like the most knowledgeable person about spirits that I've ever met my entire life. Then they take us upstairs, and they're having us taste all these different liquors. And he's telling us about the regulations and rules and laws that exist in alcohol

that prevent you from naming alcohols a particular name unless they're made a particular way, or they're from a specific region, which I did not know. So he's like, this is a vodka, but we can't call it a vodka because of this, it was ridiculous. I had no idea there were so many laws

to protect makers of alcohol. So instead of naming it a vodka, they'd name it something else, or this is a gin, but instead of naming it a gin, we had to name it something else or it was really cool. So that's interesting. Yeah, so and then there's this technique when you drink hard liquors that I did not understand.

So breathing, yes. Yeah, I know that. Fucking didn't know that. My buddy when we were in high school taught me that, we used to do it in high school forever and you don't even taste the hard liquor going down. So when you drink hard liquor, first of all, I gotta just probably back to it all.

So first of all, he says, you're not supposed to leave it on your palate, like wine, like you sip it and swallow it. And then he says, the burn that you feel is when oxygen combines with something that's coming off of the alcohol that burns. So he said, what you do is you breathe in, hold your breath, swallow,

and then breathe out your mouth right after you swallow, and you'll breathe out that, you'll breathing out CO2 so that prevents that reaction from happening, so you don't get the burn, but then you still taste the liquor. I like the burn. So I fucking,

it's fucking, no man, it's not aftershave. So I, no, worms, yeah. Dude, I, for the first time in my life enjoyed the flavor Ever I've never enjoyed the flavor of liquor So I actually bought some so it was a great time and the next day we did wine tasting all that stuff But we had a good time, but I did come back with a bottle of Their brand of gin or whatever which is really fucking good gin, huh? I really enjoyed it

Yeah, interesting. Is that like an old man drink? Who drinks gin? Yeah, yeah, gin's kind of an old man drink. I mean, if you get a gin and tonic, obviously, but like a, or like a martinis, you know, there's, that's kind of an old man's status when you start getting into a martinis. So I'm not gonna look like a dork.

No, you're good. Gin's good. Gin's cool. Yeah. Cause the ordering watermelon mojitos at the bars. Now that's something else. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm trying. If your dream, that reminds me of a member scrubs, he'd always order those apple tiniies. Yeah. Right. If you're, if your dream comes in a braille, bro, that's cool. That's that's that's that's why I found something now.

That's what we actually, we actually were this place that we stayed. Um, we sat down at the bar. We went to dinner like an hour, half hour, 45 minutes before our reservation, something like that. And we're like, oh, let's just go sit in the bar. We never go sit at the bar and just have a drink. I'm not a big drinker. Katrina loves a drink.

And this place is a really fancy place. So the bartender back there, very educated, been a bartender for, think 15 years or more with that. And all kinds of fancy drinks. I saw, I took a picture. I don't know if you guys saw the picture, but I couldn't even tell you the name of the two drinks that we made. The stuff that I mean, he was using like this real blueberries that were like smashed up inside the drink that he was, he was shaking up and that would create like this nice pulp over it So the drink I had was like a blueberry and I'm sure there's someone on our forum that knows the stuff So I'll get the forum will be all over this

But he it was like an old-fashioned meets like this blueberry drink And he could he asked me if I had ever had a Nagoni a Nurgoni, Nurg, Nagoni ever heard of that? Negroni, Negroni. Yeah, I think that's what it's called. So that wasn't the name of the drink, but he asked me if I ever had that because there was some similarities to that drink to what he would make because he made his custom one. But we went to, yeah, I got it, Nagoni. Is that what it is?

Yeah. So what do you say? Oh, go ahead. No. Okay, there you go. Yeah, so that was not the drink, but he asked me when he was making the drink, he's all you ever had a Nagoni, and I was like, no, but he asked me when he was making the drink. He's all you ever had in a groanie. And I was like, no, but he's like, this is kind of like that.

But we're going to put our own little twist on it. So he created this with a blueberry, blueberry twist to it. It was really fucking good. It was good. We had a couple of them. It never reminds me just because like when we went out to pregame before it went out, there was, we found this in near Pike's place, there was a place that devoted just to Moscow Mules.

It was like all, the entire place was about whatever the ginger beer that they were selling there. And so they had a lot of different variations of that. But it was just like on tap. I was like, Moscow Mules on tap. Oh, dear, this is amazing. And it was really good. I thought you guys had appreciated it.

Yeah, I think I went there. So yeah, I was having some interesting thoughts while I was gone. And so I was thinking about, because I noticed when we're on vacation, when we're well rested, when we're feeling healthy, when we're taking care of ourselves,

Jessica and I just, we sync up so well. Like everything seems to match. If I'm deficient in one area, she seems to be stronger in that area and vice versa. Our libidos tend to match, whether they're both higher, both lower. It's not one or the other. There's lots of things start to sync up

and I was really thinking about this and just realizing that when couples really take care of themselves, it's so much more likely that they're going to be able to get along and kind of work together because everything that you do, you got to go through this kind of filter of your body. If your health is off, if it's thrown off because you're not eating right, you're not getting good sleep, if you're stressed, all these other factors are on top of you, it's very hard for you to, like you're not talking necessarily to the person

anymore, you're talking to all this other shit that's coming out, and that's why you get so many, that's why sometimes it's so hard to connect with people, you know what I mean? And health is a big, I think if couples were just physically healthy, I bet it would cut a lot of their problems out just from that. I don't think it would eliminate problems, but their ability

to deal with problems would be so much easier. Health and financial stability tend to be, in my opinion, to the biggest things that cause major stress in people's life, being unhealthy or financially unstable, at least in my experience, the relationships that I've been unhealthy or financially unstable, at least in my experience, the relationships that I've been around and seen and been in myself. Those two things are the biggest factors of, I feel like the synergy of the relationship. Like if both people are healthy, both people are pretty much financially stable,

there tends not to be a lot of stress on the relationship, throwing one of those factors, or in some cases what happens to a lot of people, both factors where there is instability health-wise and instability financially, and you've just got to, and then expecting a relationship to thrive and grow and be healthy in that, it's pretty fucking tough. It's hard, but if you think about it,

let's extend it even further. If your health is bad, and it's pretty hard to disagree that that won't affect your partner, your relationship with your partner. Like if you're both unhealthy, it's going to be harder to have a good cohesive, strong relationship. Now extend that even further. If your health is poor, your relationships with your kids, with your kids may be more difficult,

your relationships now with people around you may be more difficult, your relationships with your coworkers, your relationships now with people around you may be more difficult, your relationships with your coworkers, your business. I mean, really, if you're in this body and you're moving around in this body, and that's your vehicle or whatever, if you don't take care of it, it's like driving a car with dirty windows, you can't see what's in front of you, it's this filter, and it makes everything much more difficult. So in this way, it sounds so like religious, right? But health and fitness are so important for everything, not just for your physical health and fitness.

You know what I'm saying? Because I know when I have poor sleep and I'm not feeling good, I'm just way less reasonable. I'm just way less reasonable and I can identify it. I can identify it while I'm sick and after I'm sick, but after my health is better. But staying in that poor health state, the longer you stain it, the harder it is to recognize that that's the reason why shit isn't working for you. Yeah, I mean, it is very evident because we just went through a spell of, like, have had the flu and then my two boys had the flu.

And so, like, we just, like, I just started to get over it. And then we took this trip together and, like, somehow, Courtney made it out without getting sick. But, yeah, like, seeing the energy shift, like, immediately, and, like, yeah, I know that I can be hard to deal with if I'm going through that on top of trying to manage everything that we have to manage constantly. And so yeah, it's man.

When you're health and you're well rested and it makes such a massive difference on just the conversations you have and the energy demeanor you have in your household, it's crucial. What do you think is bigger? Do you think health or do you think that financial stability for people? What do you think causes more stress in a relationship?

That's another big one. Yeah, they're both huge. I feel like, I feel like they're connected, right? Because one can lead to the other. If you have poor financial health, that can cause lots of stress, which can motivate poor eating, which could prevent you from being active and taking care of your body.

And then vice versa, if your health is poor physically, the obvious, it's more expensive. So you're gonna cost you more money. But then the not so obvious, the decisions that you tend to make when you're not feeling optimal, when you're feeling unhealthy or irritable or negative, you may make worse decisions

financially. You may buy shit as a way to temporarily make yourself feel better. And so it's one of those, and the reason why this was just something I was thinking about is, I've been thinking a lot about this whole, how sometimes people think it's so selfish to take care of yourself. They'll say, no, no, you get all these other things to take care of, don't spend time on taking care of yourself.

The irony of it is, when you do take care of yourself and a real and the true essence, not just spoil yourself or whatever, but really take care of yourself, that you're gonna be better able to take care of other things and the things around you. 100% 100%. You know, so it's almost like because that's the easiest thing that's in your control,

because if you think of all the things in your life that you can influence, how you take care of yourself is the easiest or at least the thing you have the most control over. Maybe not the easiest, because it's not easy sometimes, but it's simple in the sense that that is directly in my control. You're not in my control directly, but I'm directly in my control. And so it makes sense to tackle that first. You know what I mean? So if you look at your life and all the shit around you, you look at your spouse and you're like, oh my God, we have a terrible relationship or you look at your business or, oh my God, I'm doing horrible and we're in business. Like if you just take care of yourself,

clean your own room, that's gonna have a lot of effect on everything else. And it's pretty crazy. I was just, you know, I was thinking about that because it's like here we are, we go on this trip, we're rested, relaxed, you know, we're healthy. And it's like, man, we're so in sync, you know, with everything.

And I feel like we can handle so many obstacles when we both feel good. Versus when we feel bad, I feel like the smallest obstacles just they're so hard to take care of when you feel like shit. Sorry. I agree. This quaz brought to you by Organify.

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face wash, toothpaste, etc. As a struggling college student, I constantly switch between wanting to make sure I do well by my body and wanting to save money. Now this is a cool question because I feel like, this is a lot of the thought process that I went through in the previous, I think 10 years or so of like, you know, oh, I know this would be more ideal for my body to take this in or do this. But then you go into some of these places

that are all natural, organic, and the prices are just outrageous. And then I ask myself, like, you know, there's so many other parts of my life that I need to clean up and get better before I spend triple the amount on my shampoo or my soap or whatever, but things are sort of a change. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, it's turning. And I mean, we've seen that with Thrive Market in this is one of the things I've actually got in conversation about this specifically because I brought the Dr. Broner's like toothpaste and like the soaps and all this kind of stuff. And I never would have really considered, you know, like trying to get these types of products because of that fact that it was like, it's super expansive. What's the point?

You know, it's like not really affecting me that much. But once I started to kind of like go in that direction and having something that's a little more affordable now, you can opt into this and get deals on good natural products. It's a no-brainer to me. It's just one less thing that my body has to be exposed to. So there's a couple of things that come up for me when I hear stuff like this. The first is when I hear people say it's too expensive and I want to save money. And I'm not judging your priorities, okay? I just, you have to be honest about your priorities because I hear people say this. And then the same college student, you know, Friday night goes out and has seven beers.

Yeah. And they've got their iPhone with all of them. Do you know those happy hours? Yeah, they're paying their phone bill and they're, you know, they're spending money on gas and driving super far and doing all these different things. And, you know, so it's, you got to question that. Like, okay, is it really a money issue?

Is it just that you, you don't value it as much as you pretend to? Well, that's really the cost. It's the cost benefit ratio. So I get it, even as a college student, like, and we're joking about the seven drinks Friday night or going somewhere, but she may value those things in her life and those experiences at that time in her life more than she does saving or, you know, spending five to twenty more dollars on her health products. So I could, I could. So I could understand that to a point, like there's still the cost benefit ratio

that you have to kind of go through your head. So I get where you're going with that, but I also understand where she could potentially be weighing this out. The truth is though, that like with companies like Thrive Market, they got rid of those marches. Yeah, the prices are almost same. They're competitive, yeah, they're absolutely competitive. Compet markets. Yeah, the prices are almost the same. They're competitive.

They're absolutely competitive, competitive to the point where they're actually better than some regular products that you would buy at Safeway. So if you're not using Thrive Market, that in itself is enough reason just for that. Because even if you don't shop all of your groceries through Thrive, a handful of products like the ones you're naming, face loss toothpaste.

That's the best things I think. Right, right, right, you can pay for their products through them and spend the same or less than what you would at Safeway for products that have got a bunch of shenanigans. The problem with these cosmetic products or toothpaste and deodorants and that kind of stuff is we don't quite know how big of an impact they're having on us because there's so much stuff that we use. To me, they're variable. Yeah, so we could test like one, like just the odorant, but then when you combine that

with everything else that you're doing, and then who knows what's going on. There are chemicals in them that do seem to have estrogenic effects on people. We can speculate and say, hey, look, men's testosterone levels have dropped considerably over the last 30 years, sperm counts have dropped, considerably over the last 30 years. Girls are going through puberty earlier than they have over the last 30 years. I mean, all these different things are happening.

We know it's gotta be environmental, but how much of it is diet, how much of it is cosmetic products, how much of it is in activity, and is it, it's obviously a perfect cocktail of all those things at once. If you were to eliminate some of these toxins, it's like your whole body is as a whole would benefit.

Here's the way I look at it. When it comes to food, so let's say you like chocolate and you know chocolate isn't ideal for you, but you also enjoy eating it and it's something you really enjoy you know partaking in. So once you know every couple weeks you have some chocolate that's a you know that's kind of a measured approach but here's a problem with like you know deodorant toothpaste and hairspray and stuff like that you use them every day so deodorant, I'm gonna be using every day,

probably since I'm 13 or 14, until maybe the day I die, or until I stop giving a fuck, I'm gonna be wearing, I'm sure one point, at some point when you get older, like I don't care anymore, but, you know, you wear that shit every single day, day in a day out.

So, you have to add that in too, you have to factor it in too. So, although the deodorant may not have as big of a dramatic effect, day day and a day out. So you have to add that in too, you have to factor it in too. So although the deodorant may not have as big of a dramatic effect as to say a piece of chocolate will, you're using it every single day, day and and day out. And if it contains something like a aluminum over the course of, you know, 10 years, 15 years, what can that build up in the system? Some people say yes, some studies will say yes. So I mean, and the skin is like an organ like anything else, it's permeable, it does absorb things.

So, for me personally, this is pretty important to me. I use these things every single day, it's a priority. And it's not like that big of a difference for me if I brush my teeth with a natural toothpaste versus the other one. Diodorants, I've heard some people say the natural ones aren't as effective, but I've found some that are really good, that work really well. You're probably not gonna find a really good natural antiperspirant, in which case, though,

the argument can be made, why are you trying to stop your armpits from sweating? In the first place, that might not be a smart thing anyway. So, and there's other things that go into that. So, I think they're pretty important, especially because you use them on a daily basis. Use Thrive Market, these are things you buy anyway. Go on Thrive Market, I know we have a promo with them

that will pretty much nullify the cost of the membership anyway. You'll be able to get these products for the same price, you'll get them at their non-natural counterparts at the store, and then you should be okay. And then again, as far as saving money is concerned, the other point that I was making is priorities, like if you are spending money on going out to get a bunch of drinks,

and you're wondering about buying, you know, these cosmetic products, you could also just not drink as much. You do save money, but alcohol is gonna affect your health way worse. So that's gonna be better for your health. And invest in your health. Yeah, because-

That's the point I was gonna make. Well, that's kind of how I feel. I feel like if you're, you know, when there's certain things that I'm doing and I'm very aware of that I don't belong in my diet or they're not serving my body that are bigger rocks, I tend to address them first before I go out and spend any extra money or even just any extra effort into getting something about that. So I would, you know, if you're, if you're already looking into doing things that are healthier for body, you got to really look at just the rest of your day.

The best thing you can do if you're a college student, I can pretty much guarantee you, is focus on good sleep because I guarantee that's probably one of the worst things that college students have is sleep. Get good sleep, that'll affect your health way more than anything else. And it's free. Next question is from loony moment. Individually and as a human race, we always think that we currently have our shit figured out. Then years, decades, or centuries later, we realize many things we used to do or think were just plain stupid.

Any speculation of what you might be doing now that might be wrong later, both individually and collectively as a species. This is a very funny and interesting question for us to try to speculate on. First of all, I think the things that have been around for centuries are that we continue to do. I think those things like massage therapy, for example. They've kind of proven themselves in there.

Right, I think that's been around forever. I'm a huge fan of incorporating that into your health, wellness, lifestyle, whatever you want to call it. I think it's something that you should regularly do if you can afford to do it. I'm trying to think of things that may not make that big of a deal. I mean, the float tank that's been around for quite a long time,

and that's something that we've incorporated recently, that we could find out later on that that was a waste of time, really. I don't know. It's tough to say what we're doing right now. It's funny because when we think of evolution, we think of biology, the biological evolution, right? So humans evolved the particular way to have particular features

because it's beneficial for our survival and nobody will debate that. But you bring up an ancient technique for health or an ancient ritual or something that's in religion that's been around for thousands of years that they say is good for your health. And scientists or modern humans will question it and say how silly it is,

not realizing that that is a form of evolution. If something lasts for thousands of years throughout cultures and religions, and I'll give you an example in just a second, if something has existed that long across cultures, for thousands of years or even millennia, then it probably has got benefit.

There's a reason why it lasted so long. There's a reason why cultures continue to do certain things. And one example is fasting, okay. So and I love using fasting because 15, 20 years ago, if I talked about the health benefits of fasting, in any health circle, any health circle that was modern. So the doctor, dieticians, personal trainers, fitness, whatever. Anywhere, 20 years ago, if I said fasting is very good for you, I would be laughed at. They would laugh at me, they would sit your stupid, that's baloney. And yet fasting exists in every major religion.

So in religions were, you know, for all intents and purposes, that was a ways of living, and they existed the way they did, because they worked, that's why they lasted so long, they existed in every ancient culture in some form, philosophers wrote about them, and yet we were so easy to write it off.

So I think those things tend to stand the test of time. What we have today with modern applications is we don't have the test of time. So we end up figuring modern applications is we don't have the test of time. So we end up figuring out shit that we think is awesome is bad. Pretty fucking quickly. So like antibiotics and the way we used to just willing to just prescribe them vitamins. Yeah, now we're figuring out oh fuck we fucked up. Not a created super viruses. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From doing all that. Super bacteria. about others? Okay, so, yeah, no, I was also thinking in terms of, like, I guess I'm very optimistic in this regard,

but thinking about, like, Western medicine practices and how I feel like a lot of our over prescribing, like, you're sort of alluding to, but, like, you know, even for blood pressure and for things that, you know, we can manage within our own preventative health practices. I feel at some point because of all the data and all the initiatives, you know, this information that's out there that there's going to be a lot more, you know, like clinics and things

devoted around preventative practice versus it's gonna be scoffed at if you're just taking a pill for it, you're being lazy about treating yourself. So I got something for you guys, that so right now we're all going like biology direction, right, in human evolution. What about things that we're doing right now and we're using tech-wise

that I think we're gonna look at in Lafatt in the years? I think this whole staring at our cell phone and computer or tablet all day long is going to, we're going to evolve beyond that and think what the fuck were we thinking for a gap there. We were all glued to this electronically tool. It is silly. That started to fuck our posture up. That started to fucking create bad habits and routines, destroy relationships. I think that because there's so much positive stuff that we talk about with tech and the evolution of that, that we are having seen the backlash of what's happening. I think books like the Irresistible, which everyone's heard me talk about a million times,

I think things like that are starting to surface and come out and we're going to see more of that. And I think the future me will look back at the me right now and go like, what the fuck are you doing? What are they going to replace that with? Glue, I think it'll be gone. Hands-free. Yeah, so I think just my own speculation is that with this augmented reality that they're

working on, I think that you're going to interact with your environment more than you're going to have a device. So like walls, you'll be able to, at whatever point, you'll be able to kind of like use it as a screen, you know, and just be able to see things and interact with it and like with your hands or, you know, a surface, there'll be more surfaces devoted to technology as opposed to like, I have to have this thing constantly, like I'm a slave to this phone and looking down in my posture and all this shit's affected.

Well, the question is that, well, that's just becoming more plugged in, right? So I think, yeah, I just don't think it's gonna stop. I speculated on a podcast just when we were up in on it that I really think they're working in the future have this division of people. Like, you're gonna have the plugged in and you're working in the future have this division of people Like you're gonna have the plugged in and you're gonna have the unplugged I really believe that on right cuz I think there's there's some people that aren't afraid of that that just think that

That's the future is we're getting closer to the player one type of mentality or that we're going to be all like Saragits where we're plugged in and doing this augmented in virtual reality and that's gonna be the future and there's gonna be businesses Built around that then I think there's gonna be the future, and there's gonna be businesses built around that, then I think there's gonna be the counter, or the revolt to that, right, the rebellion to that, which will be the people that are like, listen, we've survived for thousands of years to now, without all this stuff.

It's unnecessary. It's unnecessary. It's unnecessary, and arguably unhealthy, not only for our bodies, our minds, and possibly our relationships. So I think there's going to be a lot of, I mean, if you try and take yourself, right, to touch and look at yourself and think of like some of these days where, you know, I do, I catch myself rounded over, staring at my phone for hours at a time.

And I know that I've got to be pretty close to the norm of people that use these tools. And I see it getting accelerating at a very fast rate. It was only a few years back where it was rare to see somebody holding a phone. Everybody now. Yeah, everywhere. Everywhere, everybody. So I think they're gonna view, I think we'll look at tech.

So what's happened with tech reminds me of anytime we have a new innovation, we overdo it, and then we start to realize that we need to temper it. So scared scaling down because here's the thing about humans humans have We're different than animals in the sense that we we Understand that we need to control ourselves in particular way So like if you just put endless supplies of food in front of wild animals, many of them will kill themselves by continuing to eat humans. We started to do that with processed foods, easy access to foods. Here you go, everybody, here's all this processed, easy food, and we're just like, cool. We just started, now we're starting to look back and go, oh shit, we need to temper ourselves,

we need to look at our food and start to pay attention to what we eat because this is something that we need to control. I think tech is the same way. I think same thing with antibiotics or anything else that we just talked about. We've got all this tech in front of us. We're just, you know, gorging ourselves with technology. And I think in the future, we're going to be like, oh no, you need to structure your time that you use it. You need to structure time that you're off of it. And it needs to be a part of your lifestyle just like now a days versus 200 years ago, you need to structure your diet. You know, 200 years ago was basically eat what you

had because that was it. You might not get anything. Well, there's a strong and I 100% agree there's going to be a split in a division with those two camps because there's still going to be a very strong camp that wants to innovate by all means necessary. Absolutely. And like amoral, whatever, you know, directions they go with it, it's gonna keep moving in that direction. And this is gonna be one of those things

where it's gonna challenge humanity. So that's where I think, that's the big thing that I think's gonna happen. And hopefully we get to this point. So the 20th century saw the largest reduction in world poverty that humanity ever seen ever. Like more, we saw more advancements in terms of reducing the world poverty in the 20th century

and then we saw in the previous millennia of human civilization. From 1990 to 2010 alone, we cut one billion people were lifted out of poverty, just in that period of time. And we're seeing a, and this is largely due to the freeing up of world markets. You had the fall of the Soviet Union.

You had opening up of markets. You had communist countries like China, adopt lots of free market policies. So now distribution is better. Innovations better. More people are fed, more people have opportunity to create wealth. And so we're seeing this huge reduction in poverty.

And for all intents and purposes, we maybe even in our lifetime, we'll see a point where poverty will be rare in the world. And it might happen in our lifetime, literally. And the next, if we live old enough, we may see that happen, by the time we're 70 or 80, where... Really, you think that poverty, we're gonna see that?

It's happened that fast. We took a, remember, a billion people from 1990 to 2010 went from world poverty out. That's crazy. So the world health, I think it was... Can't you also argue during that same time we saw our population grow more than it's ever grown to? It should have made it even harder, right?

We still had more people to feed. Again, for all intents and purposes, we should have had more people in poverty. We actually had less. And we had country like China, traumatic reductions in poverty. Of course, the US was already kicking assay at all these emerging markets. My point is, what I think may happen in the future, and I hope I'm alive to see this, I hope I live long enough to see this, but maybe it'll happen next generation or so,

where we will see people are gonna get what they want, where money isn't really a big issue, people kind of have what they want, and then people are gonna realize that that's not the answer. I think that'll be a huge paradigm. Oh my God, you're just stirring. I think, well look, you've got wealthy countries where poverty, relative poverty kind of doesn't exist

that much in countries like Western societies where people don't really starve. Of course we have poverty, but it's not a major horrible thing. Most people have what they need, have food, have shelter, all those different things. And yet we have mental illness going through the roof. We have people are not as happy. And we know this in studies.

We know that once people have, and there was a number, they actually came up with, I think it was over $75,000 a year in America. Once you make more than that, you really don't see any increase in happiness. We have studies on lottery winners. We talked about this on the recent episode where people will win the lottery and for a year they'll be happier and then after that they'll write back down to their baseline. I think we're going to see a world where because the whole world is starting to lift itself out of this state where people start to get what they want, they're going to, we're going

to realize this isn't everything. Like, I thought this was everything and now that, you know, I have food, I realize that we have all these other problems. We're not fulfilled. We don't have any purpose. We don't feel good. And I feel like that will be a huge paradigm, shattering moment.

We're starting to see it here in America, right? You're starting to see it now with people where, people are buying more and more shit. And we're like, this isn't helping. It's an interesting theory, because, I mean, I do subscribe to the, you know, Tom Billu statement of that, anything that can be free will be free in the future. And I think we see that in our space already like just as far as information and knowledge. I mean, in the past, the goal

was to hold on to all that and then sell it and monetize it where now it's like providing, you know, these people are providing so much information for free. Yeah, you know, and then when you think of 3D printers and where that's going, what that potentially can lead to, like, if you have the ability to print whatever the fuck you want, if you own one of those, then what's the need of going, saving all your money and working so hard to go and, you know, buy this expensive toy that you can now 3D print whenever you want, you know, so 3D print your own medications, you know, you'll have self-driving cars. I mean, of course, we're talking way in the future,

but the cost of... Holding a car will be so much more expensive. You guys see the... You guys see the taxis that they're trying to do. The company is called, let me give you the name of the company that's doing this right now. I thought this was really... Are they doing self-driving taxis?

Where are they located? So it's a flying taxi. What? Yes, and it's already got 100 million in funding. So it's a flying taxi. What? Yes. And it's already got a hundred million in funding. So it's a five-seat electric taxi that's it's kind of like a cross between a drone and a small plane and There's Boeing, Uber, and Google are all heavily in this space right now as far as the race to getting this this thing done It's back to the future. This company is called Joby Aviation. It's a flying taxi.

So Joby Aviation is the name of the company that's doing this. There you go. There you go. There's a lot of regulation. They're gonna have an hurdle. They're gonna have to get through. How crazy is could that be?

That's gonna be so good. Yeah, because I mean, they're gonna have to have flight patterns all established. Like, he zones like all that kind of stuff, because they can get like, I mean, something that's that small that you can man and like think about like how maneuverable like landscapes get. Well, dude, itself driving anything is going to complete.

People don't realize how big of a disruptor. That's the Jetsons, bro. It's like the closest thing to Jetsons. We didn't, we, the Jets, like how did it really close, dude. But it'll be such a huge disruptor because societies are designed around the car. You have a garage, which is a shit ton of space in your home devoted to parking. You have roads which take up a lot of space. Parking spaces, time wasted in traffic.

The productivity you lose from driving, you know, the car accidents, the death, the cost, that that cost. Imagine if you could, imagine if we no longer even want or need cars and you're, you're space in your house now, is another room and then your driveway becomes a landing pad for your fucking, your tax share. So why would you put it this way? So they've done some estimates and who knows what those actually cost, but I've actually read articles, what they say, that they estimate that driving to work and going where you want to go, I've seen, I've seen something like $2,000 a year. Right. And they're already able to pay for that. You could do like a service where you

pay $2,000 a year and you'd have access to do the math. Yeah. Do the math. $2,000 a year versus only a car paying insurance and buying gas. You can't tell me that most people aren't going to be like, fuck that, I'm doing that. Now think of kids taking them places, think of the productivity, think of when you're in your car, think of the inside of the car. The inside of a car is designed around the driver. But when you're no longer the driver, well, now it's in office. Let's get in the car, guys. Let's continue our work or whatever. Traffic, I mean, it's going office. Let's get in the car, guys. It's, oh, let's continue our work or whatever

traffic. I mean, it's going to revolutionize and change everything. So, I mean, that's just one of the, that's just one of the inventions that I think there will be a point like, like, I'll give you like a, like a pie in the sky. Crazy. Oh, that's something that I think we're doing right now that we're going to laugh at in the future. I think driving is going to be something that we're laughed at. Oh, yeah. I think that's going to, people are are gonna look at that like, how dangerous, I can't believe you did that. How dangerous, how stupid, you could have been learning for that hour while you were driving or accomplishing work. It's so not productive. Then you have the people that go by a corveyor

just to be an asshole. Yeah, but they'll have to drive on my side. But the chances aren't my blow up. But they can't drive on a road. It'll be like when you want a horse. Like I can't ride my horse on the road anymore, it's illegal. I have to go to a place where it's dedicated to a road. It'll be like when you want a horse. Like I can't ride my horse on the road anymore. It's illegal. I have to go to a place where it's dedicated to horses.

So you'll have your own blender. I believe it. It'll be like tracks. Yeah, you have to go to a track to go. Drive your old Camaro and whip it around the track. Yeah, it's, it's, it's an interesting. Hopefully my shield will be with it. But money, come on.

But let me paint, let me paint the future. Let's say, let's say artificial intelligence is invented. Let's say machines do all of our hard work for us. We're paint the future. Let's say artificial intelligence is invented. Let's say machines do all of our hard work for us. We're in the future. Machines do almost everything for us. Now we all just think. We all just get to do kind of what we want. We're free.

There's lots of money because everything's so efficient and labor is done by machines by us. For us, that'll be a paradigm destroying moment for us. Like we're gonna be like, okay, why am I still depressed? What does that look like? Yeah, why am I still sad? Why am I still- The question might be, is will it drive more depression, dude?

I think. Yeah, like less purpose. Right. You don't, purpose comes from, think about it this way. We know this because we're in fitness. Imagine if people could snap their fingers and just make themselves fit and healthy. Would it mean nearly the same amount?

Yeah, away. Is if they had to work for it in the process and everything. Everything. It's everything. That's why I think, and I mean, humanity in itself, we're always looking for the challenge. And that's why I think that it does make sense.

That it's just so stupid that we wanna go like, colonize Mars, like why? You know? Like, why do we wanna do that? Because purpose. we need purpose. We need purpose. We need something that drives us that's like super hard that it feels like it's impossible,

but we can tackle this. What do you guys think about like supplementation too? I think like maybe in the future supplements will be like so perfect for you. Generous. Well, no, just even to like be able to assess you, like there was ability to be able to track like all the things that I eat on a regular basis, which we already have stuff to track these types of things that go back and say,

on a very regular basis, Adam, you lack in vitamin this, vitamin that. It would be daily. Right, and it's just this daily supplement that's made for me. You wake up in the morning, you poop pee, give a little drop of blood, and it's like, you're here supplement for today. Right? blood and it's like, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do I will say, Organifies one of the only supplements I travel with consistently. The green juice is fucking great, man. That's the only thing I actually take. I'm the regular. Do you guys do the same thing?

No, we had it this weekend. We were in Bernartis and we were living out of the hotel. Every meal for me, this trip was in the hotel room. So we didn't, other than that, go out to the restaurant. So I never even left the premises there. And whenever I do that, I don't get enough of my green. So it's like a staple thing that we take everywhere we go.

So did you guys, so did you guys eat healthy or what? Some what. I mean, I had the first night that I was there. I had the filet and Brussels sprouts. But the Brussels sprouts were fried. Again, fried Brussels sprouts. This is twice now.

Brussels sprouts is in style. It is. It's a thing now. I feel like it is too. It's fun to ever see it. For all you kids that are like 20 years old and younger listening right now, let me tell you something about brussel sprouts.

Yeah, my idea. You have no idea the fucking crazy turnaround. The crazy turnaround brussel sprouts, whoever's in charge of the marketing for brussel sprouts is brilliant because of the killing it right now. When we were kids, if you were going to talk about a gross food, the food that you would use to exemplify that was Brussels sprouts. All right, here's a prediction.

Lime of beans. Lime of beans are going to resurrect that shit somehow. I mean, if they can do this with Brussels sprouts, do you think about it? How did they do that? That was the gross. That was the gross. That was fucking good. I got craved at all.

These were amazing, man. The food there. That was the good. So fucking good. I got craved all the days were amazing, man. They had the food there was just off the charts. So I didn't I pretty good. The breakfast one morning. I had a frittata. So in spinach, it had spinach, kale, eggs and I had a burger. I had a burger one day. So I did, I did

crush a burger. The place that ate that was farmstead in St. Helena. They had a burger that was I've neverIDat was farmstead in St. Helena. They had a burger that was, I've never had AIDa burger like this. I had to open it up and you saw it. I saw it in the egg in the avocado. It was fucking egg in there. I'm baking an avocado.

It was just, my god, it was so, oh, here's another thing too. I had some this morning too, by the way. Have you guys ever had, now I can't remember, death wish coffee? Yeah. I haven't had it. I've seen it. I haven't had it, I've seen it. I haven't had it, is it strong? Fuck yeah, it is, bro. So I drank my normal amount.

Oh, you bet you're asked, sir. So this morning I had half the amount that I normally have because I learned my lesson. The morning we went to Napa, I know in the bot, it says it's really strong, they name it death wish. So I'm like, okay, but that's probably marketing. I mean, how much stronger can they make a natural coffee bean?

So I had my normal amount and I was fucking, I was beyond stimulated. It was like too little too much. I almost had an anxiety attack driving in that. I was in the car of that. Sure, a breath. Yeah, I'm a little bit. I'm like, why do I feel like I'm running?

I'm driving somewhere right now. That shit, have you had it yet? I have it, it's at my house. It's my go-to when I'm at a chimera. Oh, yeah, it's my go-to. It's not my favorite tasting. And there's other coffees that I like that I'm not. I actually like the taste.

Yeah, it's all right, it's good. It's not, it's not, I mean, I don't think chimera is the best tasting coffee either. Like I drink chimera because the way I feel from it, it just, I definitely have noticed a significant difference with that coffee than I have with any other coffee with the crash. Like it's inevitable almost every other coffee

that I, even the ones I really enjoy the taste, that there's this kind of dip afterwards. Seattle. Amazing coffee. Oh, that's like, just like coffee. Yeah, I had a really good nitro coffee at this one place, but what I tried one day, because it was all cold and dreary, what not.

I saw I went for a hot coffee and like a latte and I hadn't had a latte in a long time. And they had one special one that was just like, it had cinnamon and like some orange zest with it. And I've never had something with like an orange kind of aftertaste. It was fucking amazing. I had it like the next two days in a row. And it was just like the aftertaste of it was amazing.

I couldn't even describe it. Yeah. Love it. Good stuff. Next question is from Doc Sass. What advice would you give to someone who wants to start podcasting or what do you wish you knew before starting your own? Don't do it.

No. It's so resaturated now. No, no. Run for the hell. Everybody's doing it now. And we're very pro that I think it's funny. We have peers of ours that, you know, I feel like they grumble when they hear, oh, you know, so many people are now podcasting there. You know, and some people want to be, yeah, like I'm the opposite.

Like the more people that get into podcasting, the better it is for all of us because it's just making more awareness. Because they're trying to get more people into. Right. I think it's a stand like, honestly,'s just making giving more awareness. They're trying to get more people into right I think it's a stand like honestly look at it as a website You know like if you don't have your own voice out there like in an audio form Then you're gonna be way late to the game. It's gonna think about it It's interesting to see what we see happening right now with business and advertising and and this kind of where we're with a future

Where we're heading like I mean I really believe that I mean Television ads are on their way out. I don't know if you guys saw to the Super Bowl It was also tied to YouTube. They're big you guys see that Netflix Did you see every advertising did you see every platform had their commercial so you had Hulu had their movie? Netflix had theirs Amazon Prime and you they all had their own movie premiere. I love it. Yeah, so you see what's going on right now with all these businesses are all becoming very competitive

in this space, and TV is gonna die, man. So I think podcasting, especially if you subscribe to GaryVee, you know, would tell you that voice is the future and that that's how we're gonna do because we're not gonna have wanna look or we'll just be able to just be able to hear it. You know, wherever we're at,

so you could multitask and do something else. It's grown so much over the last few years. It's absolutely insane. Radio will be gone, no one's gonna wanna listen to radio because you'll have all your music through streaming. It's amazing to me that radio still exists right now with Pandora and with Spotify and- What the fuck?

As soon as cars, you know, as soon as cars make the full, full switch, that's it. Which most of them are almost there, right? Most of them are starting to look like an iPad or what that's so. Yeah, man, if you want to get into podcast, I will tell you some things that I wish I knew. I guess it doesn't matter if I wish I knew. Cause probably if I did know this, it might have stopped us

from doing it and then maybe we would never be there cause Sal talks about this a lot. Like there's a part of our, you know, blind faith that we had in ourselves going into this that probably. We were unconsciously incompetent. Right. Right.

We did not know how challenging it could potentially be. And there is there's a lot of pieces. There's a lot of moving parts. It's hard. It's hard to break through, I think, you know, I'll tell you what's definitely hard to break through. Here's some advice. I'll give you right away. Make it sound good. And what I mean by that is not just the content of your show because everybody thinks content is important. And it is, very important. But if your sound is shit and there isn't a nice produced intro or something that sounds professional in the beginning

and at the end, you're gonna get drowned out very quickly because there's so many people now entering into the podcast space now that a real easy way to separate them, when you have all this content in front of you, an easy way to separate through as a consumer, you can't listen to all of them, is the professionalism. This one sounds good, it sounds clean,

it's produced, this is one that, these are the ones I'm gonna pay attention to. It used to not be like that. The irony of that is it's pretty fucking obvious when you think about it, because that's the same as Why it would be important for high definition or 1080p? Watching it video or a movie like you wouldn't go watch him

It could be one of the best movies of the year But if someone shot it in 480 or shot it in like poor resolution It would kill it it would kill the moon and so when you're talking about audio You're there is no visual involved with podcasting. So the listening quality, I think it trumps almost at almost trumps content. Because you could probably have an automatic shot off. As soon as it sounds shitty, people turn it off. And it's a differentiating factor. If your show sounds better, and the quality is better, that is going to be an advantage. And so you got to think about all these things, these differentiating factors, like what's

the flavor of your show? What is different about your show than everything else you've heard? And you have to figure that out going in. I think that's the way to approach it as opposed to just kind of rolling with it and then figuring it out. Obviously, that was somewhat of our approach, but we really did have a clear focus of what we're not hearing out there and what we really wanted people to hear. So there was a clear objective.

Well, I also think, too, a lot of people that start podcasting do it to complement a business that they already have. And we didn't really, we built the business around the podcast and the podcast had a Mission and the main mission is to was to add value to people's lives right through what we thought was missing in health and fitness So I think having some sort of a direction of how are you going to add value to other people's lives and whatever your Spaces or whatever it is that you have to communicate, you need to be providing a certain value. It could be entertainment, it could be comedy, it could be some like that.

That's a lot of people need that. There's a huge. Right. Whatever it is, you need to be able to add value to someone's life, to get them to continue to subscribe and come back and listen more. And then from there, you can probably get creative and find a way to monetize that and make money from that. And if you do get into it, thinking that advertising money is where you're going to make

most of your money, you're more than likely going to fail heading in that direction. That's not to say that people don't make a lot of money in advertising, but being completely transparent about this business and I'm looking at our stats right now, it wasn't until just three months ago, did mine pump start making enough money in advertising that it even helped make it a different, that it made any sort of a difference. Yeah, the little bit of advertising money that we were getting the previous three years isn't enough for any one of us individually to even come close to surviving off of. So, it's barely even getting to a point that it makes a difference to the business.

So if we would have got into it thinking that, hey, let's build this big podcast and then eventually we'll have lots of advertising. We would have, we wouldn't have lasted. No, it'd be. There's no way. Yeah, sound is not that hard. Just get a quiet room.

You can use blankets on the walls to deaden the sound. The good news is equipment's cheap nowadays. Like the equipment that you need to record a good podcast now may run you Maybe a thousand dollars at the most You know 10 years ago that was you know 10 20 thousand dollars for the same kind of equipment. So equipment is inexpensive Relatively inexpensive and make sure you have a dedicated space to record and then then here's the other thing too, is when you're listening to a podcast, what keeps you engaged is if the person is conversing,

if it's a flow, if it's not this structured talk. I remember when you, think about when you had a class, and there was a teacher that was conversing with the class, and having a good time and passion. You were very engaged. Now think of those times of the teachers were had a slide up and were like, did it, did it, did it, did it, did it.

I mean, it totally was disengaging. You don't wanna listen to it and you just didn't wanna pay attention. So whatever you're saying on your, I think a lot of people when they start a podcast, they think I have to deliver so much information. But really it's more important that you communicate a little bit

in information well versus communicating a lot of information poorly. If I can communicate one point, but do it in such a way to where you understand what I'm saying, you feel what I'm saying, and I impacted you, that is way more successful than if I just give you 15 great pieces of information, but none of them connected with you. None of them impacted you.

I didn't communicate so. This is a lot of what we saw wrong in ours, or what we saw is we could come into our space. And, you know, when we first started all of us looking at podcasts, like we were all kind of interested, we all had our own little podcasts that we listened to that had nothing to do with fitness. But when we looked at the fitness space, which all of us would consider ourselves experts in that field right? We've all got tens of thousands of hours under our belt of training clients and managing gyms and being in this industry

When we looked at the fitness space in podcasting We we weren't That impressed there wasn't somebody that just stood out and that's not to knock on any of our friends that are great that impressed. There wasn't somebody that just stood out. And that's not to knock on any of our friends that are great podcasters within the fitness space. There was just nobody that I listened to that I went, man, I would listen to these guys or girls every single day because they're providing what I want to hear and what I personally wanted to hear. And I think that's all of us agreed. It's like, you know, I wanted to be entertained and listen

and enjoy a podcast, but then at the same time too, learn a little bit and get something from it. There just wasn't a lot of that. There was a lot of one or the other. We felt like there was a lot of purely entertainment type of podcasts, and there was pure education. There wasn't kind of this natural blend of great conversation where you can learn a little bit along the way, but then at the same time too,

enjoy great dialogue. In our space, there just isn't a lot of that. There really isn't. There's not a lot of people that I would even consider our competition. Now, I think it's beginning to become competitive and I see a lot of people starting to model their style of podcasting around that. But in our space, I thought there was a lot of room. Now, I don't know what this person does for a living and what kind of podcast you're looking at. But I definitely would evaluate the space that I'm entering and what I see lacking.

And then I would want to mold my content and my show around whatever that is. Versus what I see a lot now is people know that oh God, podcasting is the next medium. Oh, I hear all this. Now I see a lot of businesses that hire some random host and then they have a podcast that compliments the business and it's like Yeah, then it turns into like a commercial every episode and nobody fucking wants to tune into that

That's why they don't they're not very successful podcast Because not that many people want to just just hear a fucking commercial every episode and I you know to It here's a here's a slight knock on what I see with the Onits podcast. You know, when we went over there and we spoke on their Facebook, every fucking question was a supplement question. And what that tells me is that much of what gets communicated on there is all about their supplements. Or else you wouldn't be driving only those kind of,

like literally we must have had 500 something people engage on that live Facebook thing that we did. And 95% of the questions were all surrounded around supplements. Now that to me is an example of when you have a podcast that supports your business where most talk is around that. Now Aubrey has his own podcast where he goes all over the place and provides lots of really cool guests on the show and he talks about a lot of the things I think besides just the on its supplements, but I think that's one of the. And I think Kyle's taken in that direction away from not away, but making it its own show, you know what I mean?

And I've listened to some of his episodes and he's doing that, but yeah, in the past, I think it was just a lot of commercial. It was just a commercial. Yeah, it was just a commercial to advertise their product, which I think a lot of businesses do that, but I don't think it's that. It won't grow massive that way. Right.

Next question is from Lauren Bergman, healthiest and unhealthiest sport for your body. Well, let's start with the unhealthiest. Well, I think we all agree that all of them in one way, another in extreme forms. Yeah, yeah. Well, I think all of them can be argued healthy and unhealthy, right? That's what I'm saying.

There's healthy, every sport has its benefits and every sport is going to have its drawbacks. So the unhealthiest, the easiest one for me to pick would be boxing. I'd say probably the unhealth, I mean, if you're actually boxing, not if you're MMA, right? Not if you're just, you know, hitting the bag and hitting the mitts, but if you're actually boxing in the ring, that's got to be one of the least healthy sports because of just punched in the head. Here head. The whole time. And, you know, the term punch drunk is a term to describe what a boxer who's older than, say, 30,

some of the ways they move and talk. And it's an old term. And we know now that it's brain trauma. Boxers don't typically have good life spans. They typically don't have good mental health after they finish boxing. You know, even some of the guys that we grew up with, like, you've had a Holyfield, like, you hear him talking, it's like,

fuck man, you can tell that he's not, you know, the sharpest. Very few of them seem to have kept themselves pretty well. George Foreman seems pretty fucking sharp still. I don't know, I haven't seen him recently, but I know when he was selling the George Foreman grill, it's like, yeah, everything looks good there, but I'd say boxing's got to be for me the most unhealthy. I'm gonna agree with you because right now I can't think of anything off the top of my head that probably has, you know, there's probably sports that have higher interest.

Yeah, I was going to say like higher risk sports, like extreme sports. If you lump those in, like, basically a lot of the base jumping. Yeah, base jumping is one of the guys to say or yeah, like the, yeah, because you die. But yeah, the other one just like, a lot of the motorcycle freestyle stuff or you flip, you know, X-game stuff, where, I mean, I don't know any one of those guys that hasn't had multiple fractures and you know, like, that's a humongous injury.

That's a good argument, Justin. You know, because boxing probably has the most long-term detriment to your body, like because of the repeated blows, but you don't see a boxer every week going down with like a broken, I think most pro skateboarders and motorcyclist X-game cross-guys will tell you they've had like 30 broken. It's just one slip up in your whole body. I think Travis Prostana one time talked about this. I think he has a, you get at 150 surgeries or something like that. I mean, that's, so we have to, if you can add it all up, it looks pretty grim.

So we have to look at it this way. We have, because you're right, because if we start doing that, that's gonna be a difficult one. But if we look at it like, those are accidents. So when you hurt yourself in skateboarding and motorcycle riding, you're kind of making an accident. You're in an accident. You don't do the trick.

It's something that fails. In boxing, you can kind of make that argument, but you can also make the argument that that's part of the sport. You're going to punch people in the head and you're going to get punched in the head. It's not like you fell. You didn't do a trick. It's like, this is what we do. This is part of my sport.

Or you could approach it like me. Right. Whether or not get hit in the face quite a bit. If you took the success of the sport like that, if you were completely successful as a boxer and you were always successful as a motor cross guy and you didn't ever miss, then of course boxing is. Football would be another one. I mean, football, you are going to for sure hit.

There's going to be collisions. There's no way around, and that's got to be one of the top ones What was it? What did they say? What's the average length of time? It co-pulp 55 years old? Well, that's their age. That's the average lifespan. Yeah, but once the average length that someone is a pro football player Isn't it something like four years? Yeah, a couple years. It's like super short, right? I thought it was three last time. I think it's super short like to the end. Super short, like you just don't last that long. Playing football. So, healthiest, I'm gonna go with swimming. You're swimming.

I feel like that's gotta be close, right? Because you could freestyle swimming. Forever rise, freestyle swimming. It's just the way it incorporates the rider on resistance. Right, it gives you some resistance. It gives you some endurance and style. And I feel like it's probably the most balanced too as far as giving

giving you imbalance like a freestyle swimmer is probably not going to create a lot of muscular imbalances as a lot of other athletes right so I think if you mix up your strokes I have a client I used to have a client that I trained for I trained for about seven years old guy 71 now still works out by the way. The fittest fucking 71 year old you'll ever meet in your entire life. And what he's done for the last, I wanna say 40 years, okay?

So he's done this for 40 years and he is dogmatic about this. He's a single man never been married and he's just very, he's got his routine. He's very disciplined. Every single night for 40 years, he swims for between 60 to 120 minutes straight. So non-stop, and what he does is,

and this is how he hasn't developed imbalances, is he cycles through all the strokes. So he'll go like freestyle, backstroke, he'll do butterfly, he'll do breaststroke, and he cycles through them. So he's always moving in all these different directions. For 40 years, he's been doing it. So I think if you swam like that, that's gotta be... What you think almost every, if you're a swimmer,

and you swim, you do most all the... Yeah, you do most all the strokes. So that would be my bet at the... If I had to say the healthiest sports that's out there, I would say. I was going to say golf, but yeah, you're just so like one sided with the whole like experience, like you're definitely going to create imbalances and that's the challenge. You're going to have most of sports as they, you're going to, I mean, to be good at a sport, it requires you to do something repetitively over and over. Most things that in sports that you do shooting a ball,

hitting a ball, throwing a ball, mechanically is not advantageous for the body long term, but I think that swimming in my opinion is probably the most balanced movement that you may be rock climbing if you're not like super extreme with it. You know, just because of the way that you're incorporating your entire body. Well, then there are a lot of 80 year olds plus the plus the risk factor that comes with rock climbing. Yeah, I would make it lose to swimming. But I just don't see a lot of 80 year old. I see a lot of 80

year old swim swim every day, right? And very fit. Don't see a lot of. I'll tell you a sport that is actually great. If you do it right, you can do forever's Brazilian jiu jitsu. I't say a lot of, I'll tell you a sport that is actually great if you do it right. You can do forever is Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. As I say Jitsu was one of the ones I was thinking about up there like because you're going to be still hard on your joint. Well, if you do it right, it's great because you're on the ground. So it's not like Judo where you're fucking throwing each other or wrestling where you're doing all these crazy explosive takedowns. You're on the ground. If you fight smooth and use technique, it can be something you do until, I mean, I know, Helio Gracie did your Jitsu all the way up until the day he died, almost.

Regularly. And of course, he changed his style and stuff, but that's what's good about Jitsu is that you can do that. But I'll say this right now, the healthiest thing, if I had to pick one thing to do for the rest of my life, it's a very easy pick for me. That's resistance training. Nothing comes close because resistance training is as Bruce

Bruce Lee would say like water. I can modify it. How are the fuck I want right? I could make the way heavier lighter. I could do mobility. I could focus on this exercise that exercise Oh, I hurt my knee now. I'm gonna do this particular resistance training or I did this I could you can modify that for anything and it's the one form of that if you had to pick just one and Mainly the reason why I think it's so awesome. There's two reasons one It's the form the single form of exercise that directly counters the things that happen to you as you age So as you age hormones change bones get weak you lose mobility you lose strength metabolism slows down All those are directly combated with resistance strength,

like reversed with resistance strength. The other reason why I think resistance strength is the best form of exercise for longevity is because there is no form to it. And what I mean by that is there is no, like if you do yoga, I can't just get up and do random bunch of stretches and say it's yoga. A person who's training yoga would look at me and be like, that's not yoga. I can't just make a bit and do random bunch of stretches and say it's yoga. A person who's training yoga would look at me and be like, that's not yoga.

I can't just make up a bunch of shit and say I'm playing football or golf or swimming. People would say, we're not really doing the technique that classifies it as the thing you want to name it. Resistance training, there's a bunch of exercises, but it's limitless to how you can put them together, modify them. So because it's so formless, it's so individual, you can individualize it so much. I think we- Nothing comes close.

I think we're all agree that, but it's not a sport, though. Yeah. If lifting weights was considered a sport, who do you guys think is the most- this is going to be a tough one? The best all around athlete, like all around. Like a person? like who I think. Yeah, like agility, strength, stamina. Like if you had to like, if you had everything,

who do you think would be? I would love to see LeBron James. LeBron, oh god, you're naming a person. I was naming, I was naming like a sport that would do it, but you think a lot, LeBron. Yeah, just the off of pure specimen of like what, right, that's what he looks like. That's me too.

Yeah, good. And you could say, I just feel like I could put him in all kinds of different directions as far as sports are concerned. Right, I think of all the crazy stuff. You do well. Like yeah, I bet you he could throw a fucking fastball. I bet you could hit the ball probably decent, right? If he has some sort of high hand-eye coordination,

but even not that's a skill that he could develop, he could jump out of the building. So he probably made it, he could probably make it, he probably make an amazing tight end in the NFL. And he's big enough to be able to probably have, I mean, the guy's freaking, I think like Olympic weightlifting, he'd be a disadvantage because of his height and everything, but he's super strong. So I mean, you have at least like a good deadlift. Yeah, you probably left. I was watching, we had lunch at this bar while I was up in Napa and I was watching on the TV

They actually had collegiate wrestling on I hadn't seen it in a long time love watching it And there were these two guys wrestling one guy was from I think he was so high Oh anyway, these dudes were definitely like 220 pound dudes They were big freaking dudes and they were grappling in the flexibility and dexterity and stamina. They think these fucking big mooses and they were most like you see their hands and their necks, but the dexterity and flexibility I was watching these guys like they try and take each other down to grab a leg that her hip would internally rotate to a point where first sure would tear my knee off a hundred percent like if my leg is turning that way my knee is torn. These are big fucking

dudes and they're so flexible the dude's leg is turning that way, my knee is torn. These are big fucking dudes and they're so flexible. The dude's leg is bending over here, but he's still maintaining his balance and he's gripping over. Then they get real low underneath the other guy and the stamina involved. I was like, damn, these guys are kind of have everything. Stamina strength, flexibility, mobility, like ridiculous.

You know, wrestlers have got to be up there. They've got to be up there with that. That's a good point. But I can't think of an athlete. I don't know sports like you guys do. Yeah, I was looking at I was thinking more of a special athlete. Yeah, an actual athlete that I could see crossing. The way I was trying to answer that question was, what athlete do I know that I think

could cross over the most important than anything? Right. And even if it's not anything, right? Because obviously LeBron would suck at something. I mean, he's suck at swimming, right? But even then, even then I can see him hitting the fuck kind of a tennis ball. So he just, to me, he's an example of just this genetic freak of a, I can guarantee if he gets in the pool, he'd be able to swim out swim a majority of people.

I guarantee that he's strong. Oh, he's, I think six. Well, look at his stats, though. He's a six, eight, six, nine. He's, yeah, he's like six, six, eight or six, nine, and he's like two, fifty plus. You know, basketball player, and he's so different today than they did 30 years ago. Oh, 6.9. He's like 6.8 or 6.9 and he's like 250 plus. You know, basketball players, and he's so different today than they did 30 years ago. Oh, God, bro.

But he's so symmetrical, dude. Yeah. And lean muscle-wise and like explosive, mobile, you know, like his movement, he can't really fluid. What's his weight, too? So it's hard to argue somebody that has a better like, astro-

250, 6.8. You you know back in the bra 30 40 years ago To move the way that he moves. That's why I'm so I remember I remember the different giant I know I'm a terrible example because I'm nothing like this specimen But I remember when I sprouted my My junior year in high school, I shot up like six inches. I was before that was a point card. So I was like five, one to five, three.

And then also, I was like six foot tall, right? And man, I just, I was a different person now. I literally was like, and I, for being somebody who played sports, communicate, yeah, person who played sports his entire life, I had to like, to move this new, linky body around, it just just was I lost. I was never the same fast, quick agile kid that I was my freshman year and before it

completely changed me completely. And it was a weird, I mean, I stopped playing soccer because of it. I was a better soccer player than I was anything else. And then when I got Lanky, I became a better basketball player than I was a soccer player. And it was a really weird transition for me. I can't imagine being six foot eight, 250 pounds. And then I know what my body felt like when I was 240, I couldn't get, I couldn't get 50 yards without that.

That's just a giant human being. Right. Like a human being that large that can move that fast, jump that high. I mean, it's just, bro, his wingspan is seven feet. It's, it's unreal. He's got a, his wingspan is seven feet. It's unreal. He's got a seven foot wingspan. Right. Imagine him boxing you. You imagine boxing him. Like he's going to fuck up a lot of people, though. Bro, he could, he could sit across the room and slap you better without getting that right. Like, I think he, he would definitely be able

to play a lot of sports and dominate. You know, it's basketball players to me are very, very fascinating because unless you've been to a game up close and see them like you brought it up Sally other day, how often do you see a show? How often do you see a seven footer? I challenge people to say, how often do you see someone over six five? That's the entire NBA by the way, right? How often do you see somebody over six five and two hundred pounds? You just never, you just, you just never see that. I remember in jujitsu, we had this guy who came and signed up for classes and he was six, maybe six four, but he was 300 and something like 30 pounds, just a big human being and he was a Canadian

pro football player. So he wasn't even NFL, he had played and he wasn't like a starter and he's like, he just played in the Canadian pro football for a little while, right? So he's obviously a good athlete and here he is, he's a starter or anything. He just played in the Canadian pro football for a little while, right? So he's obviously a good athlete. And here he is, he's 330 pounds or whatever, and never done Jiu-Jitsu before.

And this fucking dude would do cartwheels and do jump flips. And I remember watching this guy, and it really hit me at this moment like, there's a different breed of humans on earth. Oh, for sure. That is a big person who, if you wanted to catch me, normally when you see a big person like that,

you think yourself like, yeah, if you wanted to get me, he could've sent you too big. I'm way faster. No, no, no. He could catch me super easy, like a bear. Like he could catch me, meet me if you wanted to. It was really interesting to watch him move in Jiu-Jitsu, a nice to, so at this point, I had been training

for a few years, and when I'd go against him, I would beat him beat him barely but it was all technique and I'm not a weak dude I'm strong but he was this just this but he met and very athletic was such a huge role he wasn't even in a fell player you know have you guys have you guys seen pull up uh Saint Brown boys Saint ST period Brown boys there's if you guys see these three boys, oh wait, you guys see these three boys. So these three boys, one, I believe, is a senior in high school. The other two are going to, one goes to USC and the other one goes to, fuck, Notre Dame, I think, yeah, Notre Dame.

And all three of them are, you know, 4.0 GPAs, all of them D1, D1 schools, star players for all their football teams. The high school kids just took them to a national championship. The two football players are like star wide receivers for Notre Dame and USC. And then the father literally talked about when he chose his wife, he chose his wife for breeding purposes. Oh my God. He talks about it in this interview.

I saw it the other day was it was great and and so and they also speak three languages So the mom handled all the academic. She's this brilliant German woman right there. Yeah, that's three of them right there She's this brilliant German woman and so she handled all the academics with the boys He handled all the sports and they turn these kids into these fucking brilliant phenoms dude. Damn. They're like, they had like a serious plan going into that. That's a future of select and reading. And you actually listened to their interview and talked to them and it was, what was fascinating

because I know right now somebody hearing this is going like, I bet they have all these problems and I bet actually not, they seem very normal as far as the way the kids are, now that's still married and. Right, parents still married. They speak very normal as far as the way the kids are now. That's still married. Right, parents still marry. They speak very highly of dad. They said that the way that, because they think it's very odd that all three of them end up being white receivers for football.

They're like, well, did your dad tell you to be this white? And they're like, no, he asked us what our dreams were and what we wanted. We all said we wanted to play in the NFL. So he says, I will do everything in my mission as your father to help you get there. And so he was like, every day practicing, every day they were with us.

Because you never hear that story. You always hear the one where they're like breaking them. Right. And they're like, Adam, every single day to be the best. And you know, that's, that's the resent that comes after that. Hey, man, it's genetics. It's like when you have those musical family, the Jackson 5. Right.

They were all super talented in music or whatever. Yeah. But you always hear like crazy stories like that and then the father was abusive and he was like, you know, and that's what drove them to sing these songs that all this abuse that they abuse to have. Right. Where it's so far like, okay, corsets early in their lives are only, you know, and we don't know. That's great. It's great to count. You have to have that formula. Right. And it was why I was really into the interview. It was a really good interview. It was a real sports with Brian Gumball.

And they did this whole interview with the parents. They did the interview with the kids. And you listen to it and you think, fuck man, this is really cool because I think, to Justin's point that people do, they always they assume that, oh, if these parents are just like trophy kids that what's his face did, that one documentary, that's like these parents that, they always they assume that, oh, if, you know, these parents are just like, like, trophy kids that, what's his face did that one documentary, right?

That's like, these parents that they're, they're, they're, they're, uh, imposing their insecurities and what they wanted for their lives on their kid, which ends up resentment all this later, where it doesn't sound like that these kids are like, this is really what I want to do. And whatever it takes to get to the NFL and my dad's been teaching me and leading me the way. And I mean, it's a pretty cool story. That's awesome. If you guys have never heard of them, the St. Browns, St. Brown brothers.

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