Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 703: How to Deal with Muscle Cramps, Training to Failures Affect on Muscle Growth, Cross Training vs Specialization & MORE

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of my poem, are we going high? Yes, I don't have that ability. So in this episode, you can't, huh? No, no, no, no, no. Just try a little high. Hi! this episode. Come on man, you're always hot. You can't, huh? No.

Starting point is 00:00:26 No, no, no, no, no. Just try a little, why do you do that? I'm hot. Wow, that was... Why, I'm hot. Welcome to Mind Pump! In this extremely uncomfortable episode of Mind Pump, Adam, Justin and I, this is before we went through puberty apparently, we do our intro conversation for the first 29 minutes.

Starting point is 00:00:45 We talk about the new Salon Justin show. Yeah. Day-buelling, our first day-bue. Feel free to fast forward the first two minutes. Yes. We talk about death. We talk about Adam's clothing matching ability. It's borderline genius.

Starting point is 00:01:01 It's very interesting. We talk about the Jew of light and how it's affecting Adam's testicles and his psoriasis. By the way, we are sponsored by Juve. Actually, we're not. We have an affiliate code with them. We hook you up. We hook you up. Anyway, so if you go to Juve.jowvv.com forward slash mind pump, you'll get a discount on near infrared. They should pay us for as much as I talk about. What I'm saying, man. We also talk about why the nose and the ears keep growing as you age kind of turn into a gnome. Then we talk about health IQ.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 and get a discount. And then we also mentioned the brand spakingNew MindPump t-shirts. These designs are great, Justin. Thank you. I think you did a very, very good job. Keep coming, and ladies, don't worry, I'm coming for you. That's creepy. That was creepy.

Starting point is 00:02:17 Then we get... Let me say, I'm coming up with some designs for you. It's coming. I'm not... Yeah. I'm not clarifying that. All over the place. Then we get into the questions. Yeah. The first question was, what is the benefit of stopping two reps before failure?

Starting point is 00:02:32 So we always mention on the show where we have many times. It's probably more beneficial for most people to not train to failure all the time. Or at least we recommend you stop one or two reps short of failure. Why do we say that? Is it because we want to be different? Well, Rebels, or it's because of their science, actually supporting it. The next question was, why is it that when this particular individual is sick, they crave kind of shitty food like white toast and crackers. The thought of healthy foods or vegetables makes them nauseous.

Starting point is 00:03:00 What's going on here? Why is it that when they're sick, they want processed food. I get it. Sixteen and pregnant doesn't mean every time The next question was why are some of the exercise in prime pro? Why do they make you cramp like when you get into these positions to gain new ranges of motion? Muscle cramping is quite common. It's painful. Is it or you just being a pussy? Find out in this episode to be there.

Starting point is 00:03:25 And the final question was, is it beneficial for performance-based individuals to cross-train in different sports? Or should they just focus on their one sport? The answer to this is it depends, find out why it depends in this episode. Also, we just talked about Prime Pro in this episode. We talk about correctional exercise and mobility.

Starting point is 00:03:47 If you're really good with your routine, you've got a great routine, you've been working out for a while, or you want to correct muscle imbalances, or you want to improve your range of motion when you train. Or you're just really smart. We recommend you get the Maps Prime bundle. Now, the Prime bundle includes Maps Prime, which teaches you how to set up your warm up properly what we like to call your priming sessions both these programs go with

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Starting point is 00:04:42 It's extremely beneficial. If you're a personal trainer, these programs are absolutely invaluable. Now you can get them separately, you can buy a MAPS Prime or Prime Pro separately, or you can get them in the bundle where they're discounted over 20% off, which is what we recommend. For more information, go to mindpumpmedia.com.

Starting point is 00:04:59 Remember how we said we wanted to start a new podcast called The Salon Justin Show? Yeah. This is our chance. Finally. We need a theme show. Yeah, this is our chance. Finally. We need a theme song. Yeah, we do need a theme song. The Salon Justin show. How would it start?

Starting point is 00:05:11 The Salon Justin show. It's coming at you every day. We're fucking crazy. We say some shit that doesn't make sense. And then Sal put some science at the end study show that was pretty good I don't know. I like that. I was very very on on the spot You're like you're brilliant at making up random songs. No, I just make shit up. That's what I'm saying Yeah, it's it's a it's a level of brilliance that

Starting point is 00:05:41 First you have to find kind of like a driving beat like Yeah, if the lyrics are always hard for you the audience brilliance that first you have to find kind of like a driving beat like tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt tt t Brilliant songs you do. No, not really. Or the one that the explicit. The ones that we can never error. They're terrible. We do those only for the road trips. Yeah, they're really bad. Yeah. They're so bad they can't even be aired on Mind Pump. Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:06:15 I like the mystery of that though. Yeah. Let's keep that in the family. I hope nobody ever fights out the songs that you write and sing them the car or whatever. It's like exercising a lot of the darkness. Yeah. Dude, it's bad.

Starting point is 00:06:29 It is bad. It's really bad. Some of your humor, you've been postulating. Oh, on my Insta story? Yeah, I guess it's not the best. It's dark. No, that's not that dark, dude.

Starting point is 00:06:38 I can get that dark. No, I know you can go. You know who's super dark? Uh, doctors. Yeah. So I, you know, I've trained can go. You know who's super dark? Uh, uh, doctors. Yeah. So I, you know, I've trained a lot of them. You think that's like a, like a coping mechanism for all this trauma and stress and shit that I got through?

Starting point is 00:06:52 I think you have to be dark when you're, when you're, when you see people die and they're sick and all that stuff. Yeah, right? They're humor is terrible. Yeah. Like, uh, disturbingly terrible. I would imagine that would be the case too, it's like corners like corners and you know like people that deal with dead people all time They probably fuck with them while they're dead. Yeah, you know, I mean

Starting point is 00:07:15 Anyway, uh, so I would like to introduce our guest in the show to the Salon Justin show today Salon Justin show Hard times in the Salon Justin show today. Salon Justin show. You have a hard time for this. Fire. It's place. What's going on? What's going on over there? Today's special guest.

Starting point is 00:07:29 That was it. That was on the content. There we have it. And thanks for showing up, Adam. It was good. I walk into a morgue talk. I got the fucking guys to go, dude. How you guys get there?

Starting point is 00:07:39 Bro, I don't know. Can I just say something? Sal, how it works out. So Adam makes a lot of claims about his fashion sense. Like, oh, I'm so stylish. I'm so, and I always make fun of him and I laugh. Oh, here it comes. But, I'm not going to, this is true now.

Starting point is 00:07:51 I'm not going to joke around anymore. Because I like to tease people, right? But let's be honest now. He's got on. OK, because he has, he's got a cast on his foot, basically, because he's got busted ankle. But he has a, what color socks first? He's got a red, he's got a red socks that matches his hat perfectly.

Starting point is 00:08:07 And then on the other foot, because the other foot's not hurt, so the other foot has a shoe on it. He's only wearing one shoe nowadays, by the way. Yeah. His old one shoe. His shoe, look at the color of the swipe on his Nike, and then look at his shirt. Okay.

Starting point is 00:08:21 It's all, he's like opposite match. It's perfect. It's all perfect. Now you like opposite match. It's perfect. It's it's all perfect. Now you either plan that or it was oh I yeah no I I take the time when I put when I put a pair of socks or it was intelligent design you know no I take the time to do that stuff and then I'll be honest there's times when I don't take the time to do that stuff but I think it makes a difference man it's a one of even thought to match the sock with something, and then the shoe was something else.

Starting point is 00:08:45 Well, being completely transparent, the socks is what dictated what went on my head, because I put the socks on first. So my, do you start bottom, how does this work? Do you start bottomed up? I have a very new routine now that, in fact, I was just talking to Taylor about this, that ever since the Juve Light has been a part of my life at home,

Starting point is 00:09:01 you know, it's, I've noticed, like I told you guys, I've noticed the most benefits from the juve, almost anything that I'm doing right now, not as much hormonally as much as skin. So, the skin's effective. Yes, my psoriasis, and you can even tell, so my psoriasis on my shins are some of the worst areas on my body, and the way I sit, so what I do is,

Starting point is 00:09:22 the juve light, if you can imagine, this is the edge of my bed, and the ju I sit, so what I do is the jive light, if you can imagine, this is the edge of my bed. And the jive light, I have rolled against my wall and I just roll it right in front of my bed. So I sit at the edge of my bed when I first wake up in the morning and then before I go to bed. So I'm trying to use it twice a day

Starting point is 00:09:36 because I've seen so much benefit from the little bit that I was consistently using. So I get ready to wake up naked, I sleep naked and then I just turn the light on right away. And I kind of sit in front of it and kind of wake up and check my email real quick and kind of start the day like that. And then I shower, come back to the light, I just turn the light on, leave the light on

Starting point is 00:09:54 in the room. So my whole room's ready. Do you feel like an entree kind of waiting in the diner? You know what I mean? Like you're just hanging out, just waiting to get served. You know what I mean? Delicious. just hanging out, just waiting to get served. You know what I mean? Delicious. It does feel so crispy, right? It does feel a little...

Starting point is 00:10:10 That light really travels, right? So Katrina pulled up the other night, and I was used, she's like, oh my God, she goes, the red light from our room lights up all the rest of the house. So she could see the window. It's like the devil is coming out in your house. And the neighbors are like, what the fuck?

Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, no, she says that. The red demon's back. She says that looks really crazy. So anyway, so my routine now, and so I try and leave because I want the benefits to for the testosterone. So I'm trying to keep my balls close to it and keep my balls uncovered. So typically I would put underwear on first,

Starting point is 00:10:40 but I don't anymore. Good, because I want it to usually get at some point. So I've just for the audience, so you're sitting on the edge of the bench, knees bent. Yes. Okay. Now, typically the shaft might cover some of the balls.

Starting point is 00:10:55 Do you have to move it out of the way? Like is the goal to get ball exposure? Or is it just total? Are you doing like underbelly shaft? So, I'm not 100% sure on the science of if it's better to get most of my ball sack or most of my shaft, I'm assuming it's most of my ball sack would probably be the most beneficial. So, I push them to the side so that they can get the most... So the boys get the most light, you know?

Starting point is 00:11:23 Smart. the most. So the boys get the most light, you know? And smart. Yeah, so, but I, you know, to be honest about the testosterone piece, I know Ben Greenfield is big on this. I haven't, I haven't, but that's such a hard one, right? Testosterone is a very hard one to like, pinpoint. You have to like, measure your blood. Yeah, it's really hard, although I think. The skin is so visible. Right, exactly.

Starting point is 00:11:43 Skin's visible, so I could definitely see a difference when I'm when I'm consistently using vitamin D and what I'm not I can miss your shin let me see let me see how much better it is oh shit look at that it has way down well and it's really it's like one maybe one third or one fourth of the size yeah and it's it's actually really it's really it's right now wow that. That's dramatic dude. Yeah That's a big fucking differential. Yeah, yeah, and it's a combination of a few things like you know my diet ever since we did our fast Yeah, so right before our fast it was really bad So and I was kind of all over the bar. I was eating shit

Starting point is 00:12:15 Was eating whatever I wanted to holidays still coming off of you look healthier and After the fast the diet's been pretty tight And then the vitamin I've been consistent again with my vitamin D. You know, I was really consistent for a while then I fell off and then I realized that it was starting to get worse again. It's funny how sometimes when we're doing things,

Starting point is 00:12:34 I was just having this conversation with Taylor and I were talking about skin and vitamin D and all this stuff. And he's like, you know, I've been taking it, but I don't really notice the difference. I'm like, you know what? I thought the same thing too, until I stopped taking it. And then I saw the flare up happen. Sometimes like it's such a subtle thing.

Starting point is 00:12:46 You look at yourself so much, you're trying to, and we're all searching for like this big benefit, right? You think you're going to do something like that and hopefully it cures it, it gets rid of it. Like the likelihood of that's very, I think very, very slim that it's going to, someone's going to start taking vitamin D and also in psoriasis goes away. But it does suppress it a lot. And when it suppresses it, that keeps me from itching and picking at it, which that actually makes it worse. So, I have seen lots of benefits from the juvenile for the skin thing.

Starting point is 00:13:13 I've been putting my head on there too, hoping hope's praying to all the hair. Oh, your hair, the hair guys. Oh, yeah. Like I had pleased, let it be like one of those infomercials where I, you know, you know what, so it might take while it might take time for that right because the whole the cycle of the hair or the follicle or whatever

Starting point is 00:13:29 but are you taking pictures to see if you can tell the difference. I'm not taking pictures but I fucking look you better believe I check. It's just checking yesterday my head doll tilted down with the fucking double mirrors looking like okay it actually it feels like it's thicker I can feel it right when I shampoo there's times like when I was on testosterone, when I'm taking juice, and I can really feel it thin. Like, it feels like, it's crazy. I'll run my fingers through my hair, and I'm like, oh, man, it's like,

Starting point is 00:13:56 and then as soon as I'm off, I can feel my hair already thicken back up. So I can see a significant difference from that, but I feel like I'm kinda like this one sticking point where it's not really getting better, you know? It's not really getting worse, but it's not really getting better. So I'll notice periods of time when I start

Starting point is 00:14:14 to lose a little bit of hair, and of course it freaks me out, right? Luckily I'm still okay, but it's way thinner than it used to be, for sure. I'm still not, like no one, I don't think anyone will look at my head and say, oh, you're losing your hair, but if you knew what I looked like before,

Starting point is 00:14:27 I was a mop, bro. When I was, for most of my life, up until, I'd say my late 20s, like, my hair was, I, if I didn't wash my hair in the morning and then put like a shit ton of product in it, it was a, it was like a big old I had a frog. Metatrainian afro.

Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah, I had a big frog. It was, it was like a big old I had a frog. Mediterranean afro. Yeah, I had a big frog. It was, it was unmanageable and now I've embraced the hair loss that I have had because it's not, it wasn't so much that it makes me look like I'm losing my hair but it was enough to make it to give me dad hair. Yeah. And I really like dad hair.

Starting point is 00:14:59 Dad hair. Dude, dad hair is, I remember when I was a kid, my dad used to, I used to ask him, like, how do you comb, because his hair was always like perfectly, I mean, how do you comb your hair? And he's like, I don't, I just put my finger on. That's just way up.

Starting point is 00:15:12 50 years of training at the same direction. That's what that is. He's just 50 years of training, he man, and it just knows how to get in line. Bro, I can literally mess up my hair, and then just a couple swipes in my fingers, and it's perfect. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:15:24 That's what that really know what I mean? That's what that really is though, right? That's a testament of combing your hair a certain way for so many years that you start to train the hair to grow. And that's what I have a theory. So I think that the hair, that's like vines. That falls out first is the ones

Starting point is 00:15:38 that are the rebellious, unruly ones. That's what they do. That's what they fall out. And I mean, because they're like, I'm out of here. And the ones that are like. Like they just move south. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:47 Oh, dude. Yeah. Cause that increases. You know how terrible. So we were up in Napa this past weekend and we're driving. And Jessica's talking to me and we're having a good conversation. And she stops and she gets closer to me and she's like, is that hair in your ears?

Starting point is 00:16:03 Yes. Yes. Of course. Yeah, I'm starting to be too. Oh, freaking out. Dude, she? Yes, yes. Yeah, of course. He pointed that out to me too. Aw, freaking out. Dude, she starts trying to pull the hair out of my ears out. Why the fuck do I have hair in my ears? Why? I know what's the evolutionary purpose of that.

Starting point is 00:16:15 I noticed that a few years ago, so I got one of them little tools. So those are just game changer, bro. Look at that. I got sneak attack mechanism. I got one in my truck and I got one in my bathroom. I keep it on me, because there's be times I'll be driving. I'll look at the river mirror and I'll just see,

Starting point is 00:16:27 like the sun just hits my ear, just right. And this little fucking one little hair. I didn't know where. The one strike. I'll pull the fuck over right there, get my little tool out of a ripish. Oh bitch, that hurts. No, it knows hair's hurt.

Starting point is 00:16:39 I wanna know why though. Why do we, what's the evolutionary purpose of hair in the years? Well, ours is just an accident of nature. It's weird to me to have all tentacles. I actually would expect you to know this answer. Why do our ears and our nose keep growing too as we get older? Oh, cartilage. So bone will stop, but cartilage will continue.

Starting point is 00:16:55 And the tip of your nose is cartilage and your ears are cartilage. And cartilage doesn't, doesn't stop growing like bone does. So bone will have like, you have growth plates and once it reaches a certain length, they'll stop. Does that mean for all areas in our body where we have cartilage? So like I'm gonna these bulky looking knees too when I get older? That's a good question.

Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm not sure about that, but I do know that cartilage, the reason why that knows and years grows because cartilage tends to continue growing. So I don't know. I think that's true because I think cartilage in the rest of your body, like your joints kind of replaces itself if you're healthy and stuff.

Starting point is 00:17:30 So it's like a repairs differently. But I'm not sure about it. That's a good question. I don't know. But it does keep growing, right? Because you ever look at pictures of like, like people who are over a hundred. Yeah, they have these huge ears.

Starting point is 00:17:40 It's massive, huge ears. Massive ears. Oh, it says, okay, so let's see here see here the long term exposure of hair follicles to hormones such as testosterone will disrupt and Lengthen the growing period except for your head though you fuck that's crazy like you're your nose ear in eyebrows We'll just get crazy long But your head like all the areas that looks bad if you have long hair. Dude, yeah, you see all the man. Yeah, I was gonna say the crazy like owl you know brow. Yeah, that thing is I've seen some gnarly so I've made a promise myself to take care of that shit as I get all that

Starting point is 00:18:16 I bros just everything like just man scoping all the way around Dude just nose ears eyebrows like and I don't got to go to the extreme where I'm, you know, getting them tweezed every fucking week or something like that, but, you know, to be aware enough, when it starts to get a lot of control, like, okay, it doesn't take me that much time ago, to somewhere, get it professionally done. I'm taking care of you're good for at least a month or two. Yeah. Because sometimes I could just like see him, you know, like, roll down through your vision. And just like, it's fucked up. Yeah, no, yeah. I feel bad for my. And you're just like, whew. It's fucked up. Yeah, no.

Starting point is 00:18:45 Yeah, I feel bad for my wife. She's always like, ah, do something about that. Well, you know, I mean, to be fair, the kind of things that men have to do to like take care of themselves, it pales in comparison to like women. Ah, I see.

Starting point is 00:18:59 How many women do you see over the age of 35? It's unfair. Okay, over the age of 35, who have like gray hair, rare. It's rare until they get really old and they stop giving a shit. Do you know, I mean, this was mind blowing to me. Most, I don't know why I was mind blowing, it's obvious.

Starting point is 00:19:14 Most women get gray hair like eyes do after we get a certain age, except they all color, all women color the hair. They totally like it. All the time, all the time. Which, you know, I don't know, what do you guys think about gray hair on women? Do you think it's unattractive? Like if a 35 year old woman has got like, grazed, do you think that they should color it or what do you

Starting point is 00:19:32 think? I don't know, man. I guess I haven't seen it that much. I like it. I got to client that I was just talking to. She's 51 and she has it. She claims that her whole head would be completely silver if she didn't color it. But right now I see like she needs, she's telling me that she was just telling me she's due to go back in. And I'm looking at, I think it looks like she's blonde or she dies at blonde I guess. And she has these streaks of gray in. And I think when it's kind of streaky like that, both men and women, I think it's kind of a cool look.

Starting point is 00:19:59 And I do think, I do think that some, some at least men, and I'm trying to think of a woman in my head because I know There's some famous actors that I can picture like a full head of like gray hair and they look storm from X-Men Sorry There's a rogue. She had that one like in the front some people some people it looks well with their complexion They pull it off and it looks good. I mean shit to obviously there's that we went through this trend Or we're still going through this trend of men and women dying, young women and women dying there. So that's true.

Starting point is 00:20:27 Yeah. Which you know, the older generations, look at them like, what the fuck are you doing? I am. So we've been avoiding that color. There was this woman that worked out at one of the gyms that I managed years ago. And she was, I think she was in her 60s.

Starting point is 00:20:40 She was very fit. She had long gray hair, but it was long as well. It short so she can like it like young girl hair in terms of the length but it was all gray she was very fit and she was like Probably the first woman I ever found truly sexy at that age and I was at the time I was 20 maybe 22 23 years old And maybe 20 even younger maybe even 21 and this older woman 67 years old fit with All gray hair and all the guys in the gym were just like dang. She's hot and so from that day forward I think I found gray. I told Jessica I said if your hair ever starts to turn gray like don't like don't color

Starting point is 00:21:19 Leave it. I'm just getting old and dying. Did you guys talk about health IQ before exactly? Huh? I better do my health IQ commercial. Listen, if you're fit, so this is... Here's a commercial, if the... We worked this out before. If these two are... Yeah, yeah. If you fall within the parameters,

Starting point is 00:21:35 I'm about to tell you then this applies here, okay? So if you're somebody that's concerned about being healthy and fit, and you're gonna die at some point, you should go to health like you. You should fit in that demographic. And get life insurance. They specialize in life insurance for fit and healthy people who at some point will die.

Starting point is 00:21:52 So yeah, basically that's everybody, right? And Doug actually compared this to like other, so it's not like just just these, because you know, there's some of these, these companies that I think use things like this as a gimmick, but then you start comparing them to other, other companies that they just, they blow them away because they're better deals. Well, they specialize in fit and healthy people. And the way health insurance works, or the way insurance works in general, as insurance companies have to, the way, the reason why you have prices for insurance is because, or the reason why there are particular prices is they look at all

Starting point is 00:22:26 their risks and the and because insurance companies compete they're all trying to look at risks and try to figure out how they can make a profit and then what constitutes that profit is how they compete. So like one insurance company will figure the risks based on the people who buy their insurance and they'll say okay if we charge an average of $50 a month, we know we'll make a 5% profit. And then the next competitor says, okay, if we figure out these risks, we're willing to make a 3% profit

Starting point is 00:22:55 because we know we're gonna get more customers because we're cheaper and this is how they compete. It only makes sense to really bank on healthy people, right? So, what I'd be interested to see is someone who would take this test that's not healthy and see how if it actually would make that big of a difference for them, or it still would be good. Think about it.

Starting point is 00:23:12 Think about it. Think about all the medication, the... No, I mean, for example, if somebody's a smoker, watch your rates go through the ceiling. Yeah. Well, I mean, so obviously in general they would, I'm curious to, let's say a smoker or really out of shape person did the health IQ, would they get still a better rate than

Starting point is 00:23:30 if they were to just go to some random insurance company? I think, I don't know what the answer is, but I would assume, and this is total speculation, that because health IQ specializes in fit and healthy people, they may not have the best rates for you if you're super unhealthy. That's what I would speculate, but I don't know. Because they're banking on a large populace of customers who are fit and healthy. Here's some interesting things to fix. So if you're really out of shape and you smoke cigarettes, I'd love for you to take this

Starting point is 00:23:54 and give it a feedback. Exactly. Just purely out of curiosity. Yeah. It may not benefit you, but it will benefit you. I can give you the answer, though. You're going to pay a lot more money if you're unhealthy. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:03 Guaranteed, because you're going to go through an exam. Yeah, but Doug, I want to know if it's this... When you compare this stuff, you compared it to some of the top other insurance companies out there, and it was, what'd you say, five to 15% lower, right? I compared with two other companies I work with, and I did super preferred rates,

Starting point is 00:24:20 and they were actually, I think, 12 to 15, or something, or something percent, right? Less, which is excellent. And here's the thing, rates and they were actually, I think, 12 to 15 or something. Some might. Less, which is excellent. And here's the thing, you know, these insurance companies have these mortality tables. So they basically figured out, we love deaths. When people are going to die. So that's how they know how they can make a profit.

Starting point is 00:24:40 So there's other factors that come into play too, which has to do with the profitability of the company or the mortality experience of the company. So for example, if a company pays out a lot of claims or if they have high expenses, then they can't have this low of rates. So what health I could you can do as an agency, they can go out to all these different companies and they can get the lowest rate. So the company that maybe has the best mortality experience, the company that has the lowest expenses, now they can offer lower price insurance. My goal is to fuck all my insurance companies.

Starting point is 00:25:12 What? Oh, I'm sorry. I tell you how you fuck the life insurance company. Stay low. No, that, no, that isn't, yeah, that's true. It's not us, true. You die, now they have to pay.

Starting point is 00:25:21 They have to pay. Yeah. Did you put me in Justin? I don't want to advertise that. Yeah, I don't want to fuck them. Did you, well, that's a good point. Did you put me in Justin? I don't want to advertise that. Yeah, I don't want to fuck them. Well, here's a thing. That was a brain farting half an hour. I don't stick it.

Starting point is 00:25:29 I think I've, I can go through my head and it's all my other insurance that I pay for. You don't get me your home insurance, your car insurance, all that stuff. You don't ever cash out any of that shit. You get fucked on all that stuff. So, you know what, here's a good example. Oh, by the way, by the way, since I did make that fuck up

Starting point is 00:25:44 and we're talking about other insurance There's a company now which I would love to look into I forgot the name of my screenshot of them. So I'll look them up That they do it your insurance is literally like it's every month. It's adjusted based off of how much you drove and Obviously if you got tickets or didn't get it so it's always moving. Yeah, and so it tracks your mileage. That's brilliant. Yeah, in that vehicle, and then it adjusted every month according to

Starting point is 00:26:11 what you're doing. I saw a company that had that. It was like a little box that you put in your car. What they're trying to do is they're trying to speed all your stuff is getting monitored, right? Yeah, because you have to, that's brilliant. So like I'll give you guys an example. Car insurance, car insurance is more expensive for men than it is for women.

Starting point is 00:26:28 And it's not because of sexism, although if we wanted to, you know, be assholes, we could say that. The truth is, men getting more fatal accidents, more likely to get tickets and all that other stuff. But if it, if it, if it, if a car insurance company wanted to offer cheaper prices, something they could do is they could say, we will only cover women. Now, because they're the pool of people that they're pulling from are women and women tend to generally be safer drivers, they can offer cheaper rates to these women

Starting point is 00:26:58 versus when they do co-ed, they have to, you know, the prices they give to women kind of have to pay for the more of the men and their competing in that sense. So, health IQ is trying to get a bunch of healthy people and as a result of their pool of people being mostly fit and healthy, they can charge lower prices. Is that still true that women technically, I know that was an old stat that they technically are, they're less of a liability because they're, you know they're men are that were more reckless. I thought that was debunked. Oh no, well if you get...

Starting point is 00:27:30 I thought Asian people were worse than everybody else. No, no, that's actually... That's a little bit of a stereotype. Yeah, so this little bit. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. Female life insurance costs are less than male. Yeah, because women are expected to live longer.

Starting point is 00:27:43 You know what's funny? That's not like your poop theory. Yeah, this is some sexism we don't talk about. We got to pay more for that shit. Come on, man. Come on, dude. Yeah, you know why we died earlier by the way? Because we want to. I did my time about 65 or over this shit. Stop nagging me. Work work myself to death Just trying to hit all the holy shit. Let's see how offensive we can get Adam. This feels like I'm married with children episode Adam made just some racist racist comments. I made some gender cut some sexist comments. How far can we go today? Today's touching them third rail into day The button

Starting point is 00:28:21 What do we got Doug? Oh, you know what? What do we got Doug? We got Doug out there. Oh, you know what? I gave, I did the Gold Juice last night, and I had my kids try a little bit, and they went to sleep so nice. God, you're pushing supplements on your kids, right?

Starting point is 00:28:34 Two American and the Ration. It had them try a little bit of that, and a little whiskey. Right, so. Oh, wow. So I can't say for sure if it was the Gold Juice or the whiskey. You didn't tease it out sure if it was the gold juice or the whiskey. You didn't tease it out.

Starting point is 00:28:46 But it was one of the two that did it. No, all joking aside, I did have them taste it. Been in drink a lot of it. Are you the type of person? I loved it. Are you the type of person that would even consider mixing that with alcohol? I remember early on, early trainer days.

Starting point is 00:28:59 A long time ago, I might have done that. Yeah, yeah, I remember early trainer days. That was kind of good with vodka. Right, it was like when you would still drink on the weekends and then you'd be a trainer all during the week and healthy right? And so you and you would make mixers. You got like a protein shake with Caluah.

Starting point is 00:29:12 Yes, yes. Like, oh, this is a great idea. I did stuff like that. Did you never do that? I did. Okay, yes. There's a branch chain in Minowacet. V8 with some fucking vodka in there.

Starting point is 00:29:22 There's this one. I used to drink this brand. I'm very, very healthy. Chain Amino Acid supplement called Extend. I don't know if you guys have ever heard asked it. V8 with some fucking vodka. There's this one. I used to drink this, Bradie Mary, Shane Amino acid supplement called Extend. I don't know if you guys have ever heard of it. It's, I know it extends it. It's a little pill for the kids.

Starting point is 00:29:32 No, not Extend, it's not Bonerpill's at the truck stop. It's, it's Amino acid supplement and it's totally artificial, but it tastes really good, but it's probably bad for you. And I'd make mixed drinks with it, and it would color the drink like green or red and

Starting point is 00:29:47 taste like watermelon or fucking, you know, apple or whatever. And I'm like, hey, no sugar, it's really good for you. And then, you know, we get diarrhea. But we don't know why. We didn't know why we got that. Hey, did you guys get the shirts? The new shirts that just came in, Justin just a... I didn't get one.

Starting point is 00:30:02 You guys never get me shirt. Justin, you just released the stay authentic one right so we have to stay authentic one and then what was the other one that we just had you had all three colorways too I saw red yeah so we launched it this time with all three colors last time I kind of split it off with the black and white for the podcasting hard t-shirts so yeah so we just we just launched the stay authentic, which have kind of the Mad Mic on there, and it's got our nice branded logo.

Starting point is 00:30:31 Look to it, and you can get it in red, black, and gray. So... Somebody told me that on the website, it says 2017, but the shirt's actually say 2018. Okay, so it's a wrong image on the website, but yeah, we fixed that before we printed them So it says 2018. Yeah, I've seen the actual shirt the shirt got the right Current They were being made into that How long does it take before something that is just old?

Starting point is 00:31:01 Becomes cool, you know, I mean is there a of time that, like here's why I'm asking that. Remember how I told you guys, that I got picked up for that distillery tour in that 1985 limo? It was cool because it was 1985. If it was 1995, it would have just been whole. I feel like it takes a solid, a solid, yeah, I would say a solid 20 to 30 years,

Starting point is 00:31:22 20 minimum probably 30 years, because when you look at fashion, right? A lot of the stuff that we see right now, the trends that are like super popular, I remember that as a young kid. So a lot of those were like, or similar, like they're just like extensions of it. Like it's like, well, we didn't exactly have skinny jeans,

Starting point is 00:31:38 but we had fitted taper jeans that we used to tight roll. So you get kind of the same look, right? So even though we didn't have technically, quote unquote skinny jeans, we had genes that were pretty much a stone wash really big. Do you think everything like makes a resurrection again? Or there's like some fashions that like are real popular. You're like, how the fuck did we ever like, there's definitely this. I think I saw I saw a special. Yeah, like when the Kravak going to come back, they've done they've done same sea hammer pants coming back. They've done some things where they've done a Specials I've seen where they they talk about and they talk about styles that like have came back or that were great or that

Starting point is 00:32:13 It died off and like don't ever come back again like there's definitely trends that That's stay gone for good. Yeah, you know right now. I feel like the generation now is taking two or three generations and kind of fucking throw it all together Because they're trying to outdo each other with the eclectic ideas Yeah, because there's definitely some things I see from the 80s and there's some things I see from the 90s Right, so I see some some of the jean the stone wash the tape ring this reminds me of like the 80s And then there's the this the kick of the neon bright colors and stuff again neon bright colored sunglasses They went on that kick a little bit. That was all 90s stuff, 90s, it was cool to wear all these

Starting point is 00:32:48 vibrant bright neon colors all the time. Yeah, the gotcha shirts, oh shit. I'm waiting for the Pacific car. I'm waiting for the big jeans, Jinko. The big old, yeah, the big old. They were so dumb. No, like, yeah, that doesn't,

Starting point is 00:33:02 I mean, if people bring those back, they're just being assholes. I do believe that the tapered the do the tapered skinny gene thing will will die off and we will see Baggy again or at least loose fit come back again because that's a the one thing that's been nice about me More comfortable, you know falling into depression low tossed austro and all the misery I'm going through right now Is that my legs have shrunk to nothing and so I fit in these nice little skinny jeans now. So I actually, I can wear some of these clothes that are in style right now, but when I'm in shape, dude, I actually have legs on me in a frame on me. Are you doing like hip extension stuff because your glutes look all right?

Starting point is 00:33:37 They don't look like they're all right. We were, what? That's just good genetics. Okay. Yeah, because they don't look like they've attribute it all. Me and Doug were talking about over there. It does always talk about my ass. Keeping them glutes. It's just good genetics. Yeah, because they don't look like they've attribute it all. Me and Doug were talking about earlier than me. Yeah, this is just always talking about my ass. Keepin' them glutes.

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Starting point is 00:34:19 The English Landis! Quique-quique! First question is from BW Lawson. 1973. What is the real benefit of stopping two reps short before failure? Good question. It is. So first let's define failure.

Starting point is 00:34:37 When you're lifting weights, failure is when you cannot perform another good, clean repetition. So that's number one. I have to define that because I think sometimes people think failure means you just can't move the bar anymore. You can't even lift it off. Yeah. And I don't think people realize how important this point is too because as soon as the form breaks down, just because you get the wrap up, doesn't necessarily mean that's a

Starting point is 00:35:03 good idea. And I think some people, and this is a confusion of reading studies of going to failure and the extra benefits you might get for building more muscle, the extra benefits you might get from pushing yourself to failure, I think is negated by the poor patterning that you're going to create by forcing a wrap out. So it's really, there's really a fine line, in my opinion, on this people training to failure all the time. It is a tool, it can be used,

Starting point is 00:35:27 but for the, I think it's abused and overused. And more often than not, you should be training like this where it's too rough. Yeah, more often than not, it just feels counterproductive, right? Then I'm trying to actually heal as opposed to, you know, full, like, fully recover and then, you know, move forward, whereas, like, if I stop myself with just enough, kind of left in the tank, then, you know, me to be

Starting point is 00:35:53 able to keep building and building on top of that and consistently training, like, I move forward, man. It's just, it's momentum that moves forward versus, okay, push, pull, push, pull. That kind of a mentality where now I have to kind of force myself into recovery. This was, when I think of all the game changer, like singular techniques that I changed through my resistance training career

Starting point is 00:36:21 and my personal training career, stopping a couple reps before failure is up there. It's probably, it might be number one or number two. It was that big of a difference. I agree with that, but I think there's a reason why that is too. I think it's because we fell in that, I mean, when you go back and you even watch

Starting point is 00:36:39 like the old Arnold videos, so that these guys are, come on, three more, three more you pussy, you know what I'm saying? And so that's been in grain den art in the culture of bodybuilding and lifting. And so, you know, as a young teenage boy who was reading these magazines and watching,

Starting point is 00:36:55 you know, Arnold and shit, like you're going like, this is how I got a train. I got a train this way and that's how you get big. And that was so. No, I mean, when I first did this, so I'll tell you what led up to this. I was reading Kubrick's book, Dinosaur Training, and he was talking about how he would do how, you know, these strong men and athletes and back in the day would do all these, you know, lifts and they do them frequently.

Starting point is 00:37:20 And I remember thinking, like, how the hell can you recover from doing these lifts so frequently? Like, how is that even possible? How does that even work? And then I started thinking about all of the, you know, strong muscular men in my family who don't even lift weights and just from being physical at work. And I would think to myself like, well, none of them are doing any of that shit to failure. Like, you know, my dad who was a stone worker for, you know, decades since he was nine years old,

Starting point is 00:37:44 he's not going to failure at work. He does it all the time. By this point, it's not super strenuous in that particular sense, but this guy had my dad's hands are made out of, they're like concrete in his forearms, and muscular, and his shoulders were strong. And I started thinking like, well, is it really necessary to go to failure?

Starting point is 00:38:00 And so I started stopping my repetitions short of failure. And the other thing too is observing Olympic lifters. Olympic lifters don't go to failure except for maybe the day of competition competing. They never go to failure. So what I started doing in my training is I didn't change anything else at this point. All I did was I stopped two reps short of failure. And literally the following week I was stronger. It was like boom right away. I, I was stronger. It was like boom, right away. I was a big game. It was, I got stronger right away. Then I started recommending it to my friends

Starting point is 00:38:29 who lifted weights and I would tell them, hey, don't change your routine. Just try this. Don't go to failure. Stop like one or two reps short of it. And every single one of them contacted me afterwards and was like, dude, I'm like building more muscle and I'm stronger right away.

Starting point is 00:38:43 Now the science supports this 100%. They've actually studied this and tested this. And most studies will show that when you compare groups of individuals, all things being equal, going to failure not only is not necessary or not more beneficial, but in many cases, is less beneficial where the person doesn't advance as quickly. Now there's a lot of theories as to why.

Starting point is 00:39:07 What's going on? Is it because of the additional muscle damage? Probably not. I don't think it's necessarily the additional muscle damage. I think it's the hammering of the central nervous system that is the problem because when you're reaching down deep to take your body to momentary muscular failure You are calling upon your CNS to really give you every single bit of juice that it has and Once the CNS gets really fatigued it takes much longer to recover than muscle

Starting point is 00:39:39 We know this muscles recover pretty quickly in comparison to the central nervous system the rest of your sets tend to get hampered quite a bit, so you've got to reduce your volume and your frequency, which are both important factors, and then you just don't get as good of results. Now, does this mean you should never go to failure? I don't think so. I think every once in a while, it's okay. Yeah, and then like I almost used it as a coach even and for myself once I started applying this as more of a quarterly sort of gauge. So as far as the effectiveness of my training and how I've been able to build up to a new

Starting point is 00:40:19 standard and something that I've stretched the limitations that I currently had, whether that was physically or whether that was mentally. Sometimes you have a stuck sort of mentality when it comes to load or when it comes to your actual abilities to where I do feel it's important to stretch your abilities, to press them, to challenge yourself. But then going through that failure, testing, we took days off for recovery and just coming back to now approaching, starting the whole process all over again. Yeah. It goes back to what I've said on the show a bunch of times, which is it's always for the people that don't need to do it, are doing it too much.

Starting point is 00:41:09 The people that are doing it too much would benefit the most by not doing it. If you're somebody who's listening to this right now, because there's lots of different people that I would give different advice to when speaking to something like this. If I have a client or I have a person who rarely ever trains a failure or is scared to train to failure because they don't wanna fail and they don't know that they're afraid to drop the weight on themselves

Starting point is 00:41:32 and they rarely ever even push to failure and they train like that, getting them to go to failure actually will probably show lots of benefits for their body and as far as building muscles concerned. Now, we speak like the way it affected us because like I was saying earlier that, you know, I was impacted by the magazines and by what I was seeing like Arnold training. And so in my head, I thought like, this is how I literally totally sucked into the ego of it in the culture. So I mean set one, dude, set one,

Starting point is 00:42:01 I'm pressing up every set every set every set was to failure And I always wanted a spotter and I trained the way now as I got older wiser and learned a lot more I remember I remember like the light bulb going off when I started to go to reps short of failure Just like you saw I started to see these huge strength gains, like really quick. I was like, whoa, this is nuts. I'm not pushing as hard in the gym, but yet it, or it felt like I wasn't pushing as hard in the gym, but yet I was seeing gains really quick. And so I think that rule is because of the fact that I was so extreme on the other, the other side of this.

Starting point is 00:42:38 Now, what I saw in the competitive world that I think is really funny, and I think this hurts a lot of the bodybuilders, bikini athletes that I had saw, my peers, is because these guys and girls, they go to failure on almost every exercise. And many of them don't understand order of operation as far as what exercises they do first. So you've got these guys, and I would die laughing. I'm like, you start off on the peck deck machine,

Starting point is 00:43:03 doing flies, and you go to failure. And it's like, then you go over to go do like some dumbbell presses or do some bench press and like, you're already, your CNS is fried. You've already fatigued the muscle. And so you're lifting probably 60, 70% of your max of what you could do if that. And you're not really getting the best bang

Starting point is 00:43:21 for your butt for the best exercise you've possible. So if I was going to, if I'm going to failure now, I'm going to do it on my last set of my compound lift, whatever the big whatever the big lift is that I that I think I'm going to get the biggest bang for my buck. I at the very last set and the very last set or very last exercise. So last exercise and last set of that muscle group that I might be working on and and the compound lift. I'm going to maybe push the failure.

Starting point is 00:43:46 Yeah, well, you have to understand, when you're training your body to build muscle, it's really this delicate dance between sending a signal and a stimulus for muscle growth versus my body's ability to recover and repair. And you have to balance those two out. They're both intricately connected. If you had this limitless recovery ability, this ability to just recover and repair both your central nervous system and your muscle very easily, then just more intensity would always be better. You could always just throw more and more at your body because you're recovering. You don't have to worry about recovery.

Starting point is 00:44:25 Well, talk about what the signal you're sending when you're doing that is durability. Like if you do go to failure all the time, like I'm not saying that you're not gonna be bad acid lifting weights and CrossFit's a great example of that. Like it doesn't mean that you're not gonna become bad acid lifting weights in there, but if we're chasing change in our body,

Starting point is 00:44:41 then it's not the ideal path. I would even argue, you might not make you badass. I think if you keep pushing that, you're gonna start to get negative effects as you overcome your body's ability to adapt and recover. And so you have to understand that. So does going to failure cause a larger or louder muscle building signal or stimulus

Starting point is 00:45:03 than not going to failure? Technically it does. Technically, yes, if we're to measure all of the things that we know how to measure, that show that the muscle damage and signaling. Oh, no doubt it. If you took two groups of people that have never, like no one's lifted, or say everyone's lifted exactly the same amount of years into their bell, and you took two groups and you said, you never trained a failure. This group always trained a failure. We watched it for six weeks. The

Starting point is 00:45:27 ones that in six weeks are going to show that went to failure are going to show more progress. Well, what they'll show is, and what I mean is when you can measure things like muscle damage, markers of damage and protein synthesis and all that, failure sends a louder signal, but it overcomes your ability to recover too much to make up for it. You might get a little bit more benefit from doing those extra two reps, but because it overcomes your ability to recover so much, not only is it not worth it, but for most people

Starting point is 00:45:55 it's detrimental. This is why we can make a blanket statement for most people and say, you're probably better off stopping about two reps short of failure. For most people, if you do that most of the time, you'll get way better results than if you push yourself to failure with your workouts. And we can say that confidently because of both our experience and because of literature. Well, and I think that all of us as trainers, the last variable that I tend to manipulate is intensity. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:23 I mean, I'm going to play with exercise, diet, movement. I'm gonna mess with a lot of different variables. Last one I'm fucking with is intensity. Yeah, I mean, you just kind of feel the difference between when you're forcing your body and when you're actually working with your body. And this is like another clear example that to me when I feel like,

Starting point is 00:46:41 you know, if I'm pressing too hard towards failure and I have to recover harder, I'm really like forcing it. And it never, like you just don't have the same type of energy and drive when you're really forcing your body. Yeah, I'll tell you what, I could take a big, a total decondition beginner, and I could train them every single day if I appropriately modify their intensity and the duration of the workout and all that stuff. I could also take a complete beginner who's never worked out and with one set, with one set I could fuck them up really, really bad.

Starting point is 00:47:18 That's what intensity can do. Intensity has that much power over your body's ability recover, whereas at frequency and volume, you can manipulate those. Both also have an impact, but it's intensity you've got to be most careful for, because one set too hard, even somebody, I'll tell you what, even if you're super experienced, I bet I could take someone who's super experienced, and I could take them through, I can invent a set and take them through where we're doing super crazy to failure, strip set, negatives, partials, you know, and now isometrics at the end,

Starting point is 00:47:51 and I'll fuck you up, I'll go beyond your body's ability to recover. That's the power of intensity. The problem is the culture's got to change. The culture has to change because it's still, we still have this mentality of, okay, if I, if the sore I am, the better the workout is, people still believe that.

Starting point is 00:48:08 You know, I'll be the first to admit that I was somebody who was like this where I measured my workouts, the success of my workouts, how I fucking felt the next day, and not how good I felt, or how much energy I had, or how much mobility, or how, but how sore I was, and the more sore I was, oh yeah, I got a good workout.

Starting point is 00:48:26 It was a good workout, I got a good, where I have such a different outlook on it now. Now when I feel that sore, I'm like, fuck, I did way more than I needed to. That's exactly what goes through my head. If I am sore, like really sore, like sort of the touch, poke my chest and I'm like, oh, that to me goes like, what an idiot.

Starting point is 00:48:42 I did way more than I needed to do to elicit some sort of change in my body And that is the goal I think when you start to switch your mentality that okay, it's no longer this How sore can I get and that's the measure of? Not about the month what's the most I could do it's about what's the least I could do right? That's it It's that's a very so the so the so the so the so the sore feeling should not be a pat yourself on the back You did such a great workout the other day. It should be like, shit, I didn't have to do that much

Starting point is 00:49:07 to get the change that I was looking for. Which is a crazy hard mental discipline to establish. Right, it's an art. Especially for, yeah, well, when you're indoctrinated in this mentality of like kill every workout and you know, crush, crush everything you do to really train with discipline and be smart about it.

Starting point is 00:49:26 It's challenging. Well, and I want to point out too that when we talk on Mind Pump, a lot of what we talk about comes from our experience of training thousands of normal average people. Okay. So I'm not speaking to the men's physique or the bodybuilder guy who's been training for 15 years. We can cover with artificial Right, right totally different like I trained like a madman when I was competing I trained nowhere near at the volume

Starting point is 00:49:52 Right now as what I was when I was competing. It was a whole nother level and Breaking a lot of the rules that we talk about right now, but the bottom line is Most of you are not that person and even if you want to be that person, there's a lot of scaling that needs to happen between where you're at now and there. And you want to leave as many tools in your tool belt as you can and intensity is a great tool, but it's one of the most abused tools. And that's the one that you want to save, man. It's the one you want to have in your back pocket because you know you can always ramp

Starting point is 00:50:21 up the intensity. Like, I want to dial in the nutrition. I want to dial in my steps, I wanna dial in my program design, I wanna dial all that in, and then when I wanna bump to the next level, I'll add some intensity in there. Next question is from Harriet Edwards for 10.

Starting point is 00:50:37 Why is it that when I'm sick, I crave shitty foods like white toast and crackers. The thought of healthy foods or vegetables makes me nauseous and is the last thing my body wants. Everyone I know is the same. Yep, me too. I don't know about you guys. When you're sick, don't you just feel like you want to eat

Starting point is 00:50:53 carbs and fats? Yeah, like Doritos or... Fried, fried fries, French fry, fried food and carbohydrates, sugar and fats. So I'm gonna speculate on why this is. And I have actually thought about this myself when I was sick, because this is kind of, this is common. I think a lot of people experience this.

Starting point is 00:51:12 So first off, there's a little clue in the way that this person asked the question, which is, they said that they crave these types of foods. So we need to, we have to differentiate between crave and hunger. Cravings are very different. So if you think you're hungry, if you're truly hungry, pretty much any food that's going to be in front of you, you're going to want to eat. When you're craving something, it's more like, you know, when your friend says, oh my God, I'm starving and you say, oh, cool, do you want to go eat over here and they go, nah, I'm not really in the mood for that. What

Starting point is 00:51:44 about this? Nah, not in the mood for that. But you know, it sounds good tacos or something like that. That's not hunger. That's a craving and it's very very different. It's not necessarily what your body wants. From a hunger perspective, it's what your total being may want based off of your emotion, the environment you're in, your mood, like all these different things. And cravings are influenced by all of those types of things. I use the example of the movie theater in popcorn a lot because it's an easy one for people to understand that you'll crave popcorn most likely when you're in a movie theater

Starting point is 00:52:16 because you've been conditioned to do so. Now why is it that when you're sick, you don't want to eat healthy foods. Well, healthy foods are, and we're going to, let's define that for a second. I'm going to assume that this person's talking about foods that are whole and natural in their state. So, you know, if I'm going to eat like a piece of fish or vegetables or just minimally processed foods, that's what I think they're referring to. Why would those types of foods, sorry, those types of foods are the foods we evolved with, and those are the types of foods

Starting point is 00:52:51 that our bodies are gonna be most accurate with in terms of our signaling. So if I'm gonna eat whole natural foods, my body's natural systems of satiety are more likely to kick in when I'm eating those foods in more accurate ways than if I'm eating foods that are not whole and natural. When you're sick, your body may be telling you, it's a good idea to not eat. That's just the bottom line.

Starting point is 00:53:16 The reason why you're not craving or want to eat, quote, unquote, healthy foods is because your body probably just doesn't want to eat. And studies will show that the old adage, you know, what do they say, starved fever, fetal cold, or I'm not quite sure which one is the reverse. But in one of those cases, and I believe it's viral infections,

Starting point is 00:53:33 and you're gonna have to double check and look it up yourself, I believe it's viral infections, but animal studies show that when animals have a viral infection and they fast, they're like, they heal faster. When they have a bacterial infection, they tend, they're like, they heal faster. When they have a bacterial infection, they tend to, in the eat, they tend to,

Starting point is 00:53:49 I'm sorry, it's the reverse. When they starve a bacterial infection, I believe they heal faster. And when they feed a virus, they tend to do better. So it could be that your body is just telling you to not eat and you might want to listen to it. And the reason why you end up craving shitty foods or processed foods is because those foods were designed

Starting point is 00:54:10 and engineered to overcome or hijack your body's natural systems. So you're more likely to want to eat those foods because they're hyper palatable. You know, these foods hit on all these different senses. You're body. I also think there's a behavioral piece that goes in emotional, right? Yes. When you're you don't feel good and you're laying around watching TV and stuff like that.

Starting point is 00:54:32 And I mean, I know from my own habits and patterns that it's like a comfort thing. Yeah. When I'm watching when I'm lazy or don't feel good and watching TV, you know, a cheeseburger and french fries or that type of food is more appealing to me. And it's not because that's what of food is more appealing to me. And it's not because that's what my body is trying to tell me it wants or need. That's just behavioral addiction that I've done this for so many years that what I'm lazy or doing these things, I eat that, just like the popcorn analogy gave. When I go to the gym, I'm working out and I feel healthy.

Starting point is 00:54:58 I tend to gravitate towards healthier foods because I feel good about my, I feel good on taking care of my body. And I want to continue this episode. So I tend to quote unquote crave the healthier type food. So I believe there's some, there's a lot of behavioral stuff or psychological things that are going on with you too when we want these things because it's not that it's the white crackers I think are very beneficial.

Starting point is 00:55:21 And so that's why you want them. I think there's some behavioral addiction that you're battling also in addition to what Sal was talking about. So I think it's a, it's a, it's a, Oh, here it is. So it was a study on mice and it found, so they did it with mice, they gave them Listeria.

Starting point is 00:55:35 And when they gave them Listeria, the mice stopped eating, which is common. You know, if you got a food poisoning or whatever, you don't want to eat anymore, and they made a full recovery. But when they had mice that were infected with mono and they were forced fed, they, oh, excuse me, the same bacteria, Listeria, and they forced fed them,

Starting point is 00:55:54 they died. So they found that, you know, forcing yourself to eat in the particular situations with animals might not be a good thing. And sometimes it's a good idea. Well, Sal, doesn't a cold effect to our palate because you've got this mucus build up and you've got all this stuff going on in your mouth

Starting point is 00:56:09 and your throat, like doesn't it even affect our, I would think that it would affect our palate too and so maybe foods that are more bland and don't have that are less desirable and so you want something that's, I mean, it could be, right? It's all speculation, but this is the best, this animal study is the best study that we have to show

Starting point is 00:56:26 because it's not ethical to test this on humans, right? You can't, I don't think they'd be able to get funding or approval to take a group of people who are sick with the virus and bacteria and either starve them or force feed them to see what would happen, but they did do it in animals and viral infections when the animals were fed with viral infections, they survived better, and when they were fasted

Starting point is 00:56:50 with a bacterial infection, they survived better. So the whole, you know, feed a cold star of a fever, I think it is somewhat accurate in this particular sense. So I really think it's your body just talking to you, and these highly processed palatable foods, they override your body's systems all the time, including when you're sick. I know, a good example is this, how many times have you eaten a big meal and you're stuffed and they bring out a sugary dessert and all of a sudden, like magically, I can eat more. You can physically feel that you're stuffed, like physically, like my stomach hurts, it's too full. Just the novelty of it will change.

Starting point is 00:57:28 It's your entire like feeling for that. You've overcome what they call palate fatigue. And I think when you're sick, depending on your type of illness that you have, your body's telling you, you know, probably better off not eating at this moment. And in this particular case, that's, you know, in the animal study,

Starting point is 00:57:44 that seems to be the case. But the emotional component, like you were talking about Adam, I fully agree with because I know that there are comfort foods that I have that maybe my mom gave me or whatever that grew up with when I was sick and just making me feel emotionally better. Oh, the only time I ever want a big Mac in French fries is when I'm sick. And it's because I know that exact meal. That exactly. That exactly. The only, no it is 100% for my that and I want seven up.

Starting point is 00:58:10 I never drink seven up and I never have McDonald's. Oh my grandmother. For so many. Yeah, like there's salty crackers and seven up was the thing. You know, you know, we're that peanut butter. Yeah, that's some reason. Peanut butter.

Starting point is 00:58:21 Yeah, peanut butter, salty crackers and like seven up. It's like, oh, so cure everything. Yeah, seven up was like the cure for all stomach ailments. There's a reason behind it. It has something to do with the caribbean. This is the caribbean. The carbonation. No, there's some benefits.

Starting point is 00:58:34 There's something, I know there's something to that and the Salting Crackers. And I think the Salting Crackers have something to do with sodium and I think the carbonation has something to do with this seven up. Now, I know ginger ale has been recommended for people with nausea and stuff like that, but that's if it's made with real ginger. Yeah, because ginger has anti-nage.

Starting point is 00:58:53 Yeah, I'm 100% I'm speculator right now, but I'm almost certain that I've read that somewhere, almost certain, right? Well, I, I, I, what's it, what do you call that when you say so? When you're almost certain? Maybe she's got it wrong, and was supposed to give me ginger ale. No, he's, he's pretending like you're certain.

Starting point is 00:59:04 It's like an oxymor. Yeah, just pretend like you're sure. My dad used to say that. I'm almost positive. I'm like, what the fuck does almost possibly mean? It's an oxymor on his head. Yeah. No, you're not actually.

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Starting point is 00:59:28 Yeah. Dyson is pretty hot. Getting crazy. There's a the Dyson penis pump. That's a good one. This should make that really get it to suction. Next question is from spam rice and eggs. Spam rice and eggs.

Starting point is 00:59:44 Great combo. Why exactly do some of the exercises in Prime Pro make us cramp? Oh, good question. This is a great question because when doctors happen, when Dr. Brink was taking us through how to apply these movements, we were cramping like crazy and he told us

Starting point is 01:00:03 to push through the ramp and drive through it Which is the exact opposite of what you want to do when you want to cramp? So I actually because of brink and because of that whole process for us. I actually teach prime pro differently to people when that own the program and that I've helped out with that and I actually tell them when you do any of these moves Seek the cramp. Push, keep pushing the range of motion until you find that, because you'll almost find it in almost every move. That's like you're threshold.

Starting point is 01:00:32 Right. And I think what I mean, I think it incorrect me if I'm wrong, if what's happening is that you have all, you're kind of waking up muscles that have just not been activated, and it's the spasming of, and firing of that. It just hasn't been used to being worked. And it hasn't solidified that connection yet. Right. And so I think I feel like the cramping sensation we feel is the spasming of the muscle trying to get activated and get connected. I think it's the CNS trying to find its way because think of it this way.

Starting point is 01:01:00 When you work a muscle, when a muscle is contracting in a particular range of motion, that you have control over, what a muscle is contracting in a particular range of motion, that you have control over, what that means is the central nervous system knows how to fire that muscle effectively and efficiently through that known range of motion. Now, when you move outside of that range of motion, whether it's in a extended stretch position or in a, you know, what's more common in these particular positions, in a hyper-contracted position, or in a new range, just a new range of motion that you're not used to, your central nervous system has to find its way to connect to that particular range of motion. And when you're calling upon the CNS and you're like,

Starting point is 01:01:37 trying really hard and you're pushing really hard and you're trying to get that CNS to fire, the CNS is getting the signal from you that says, fire, it's trying to figure out what to do, so it just fires. Well, and you get this cramped. Yeah, you're really trying to override these governing systems that are in place too.

Starting point is 01:01:54 So you've just found where you've established like, okay, this is where we normally go. And if you're now going beyond, you know, this comfort zone that you've you're now going beyond, you know, this this comfort zone that you've established within your daily routines and so like your body almost has this like reaction to that so it's like it's it it almost freaks the system out on some level So it's giving you that signal like caution caution caution caution, but you have to kind of own that and control and and ease your way through The ironic part though, and that's why I don't know if it's so much to that as it is the CNS trying to get the muscle to fire, to take it through full range of motion,

Starting point is 01:02:32 and that's why we get the cramping, spasming type feeling, because if I took you through that stretch, what I did, and you didn't do it actively, it wouldn't fire on cramp. It wouldn't cramp up because you're not required. You're not asking this demand of take it passively versus now. Yeah. And to connect intrinsically. Right. What I find really interesting is that there's obviously different types of cramps that

Starting point is 01:02:53 we get because we've all had the muscle spasm with a cramp out of nowhere where you're not even trying to activate it, right? Also, your calf locks up out of nowhere. Yeah. And that sometimes could be a lack of a nutrient in your monochrome. Right, there can be exactly. So there can be that imbalance going on for that, but this is different.

Starting point is 01:03:09 This is not from that. This is you trying to, you know what this reminds me of, do you guys remember when you first started lifting weights or maybe after a layoff, like you haven't worked out in a while and you go to lift a weight, but you're like shaky.

Starting point is 01:03:23 Yeah, you get that, that kind of shaking is feeling, that unstable feeling. That's because the CNS, you know, regressed its ability to control your muscle. And then after a few sets, or even after a few workouts, now you're pressing and you're moving the weight

Starting point is 01:03:39 and it's smooth again. So, you know, those of you listening, I'm sure you've experienced that before, where you're trying to do an exercise and you just feel shaky within the movement and that's because you're not connected to that range of motion. This is exactly what's happening with these movements in prime pro and this is a good sign. I don't mean it's a good sign in the sense that that, you know, it's showing you that your body's got great mobility. I mean, it's a good sign in the sense that you are,

Starting point is 01:04:05 you're training your body to work in new ranges of motion and that cramping is a signal to tell you, hey man, you're in a different range of motion, this is a new connection that we're starting to build. That's how you know prime pro is so fucking badass is when you get in these positions and if you apply them properly, you're gonna get some cramping but over time

Starting point is 01:04:23 and it's actually quite short like, I'll do, you know, I'll practice a Prime Pro repaturning movement, and within a few times practicing it, I've got more range of motion, and the cramping doesn't happen till later and later on. I mean, it happens that fast. Yeah, well, and I, it does happen really fast, and I would venture to even tell people, the challenge people that if you go through Prime Pro and you never cramp, you're not pushing your range of motion. You're not, you're probably not getting the max benefits from that because you should be. No matter how already flexible you are,

Starting point is 01:04:54 you're, everybody should be challenging their in range of motion through this through Prime Pro. And everything should start cramping. And if it's not, you're, you're just kind of taking it to the, which is what I think. You're just working where you can work. not, you're just kind of taking it to the, which is what I think. You're just working where you can work. Yeah, you're not seeing the real benefits from it. If you push through the cramp, like what Sal's talking about,

Starting point is 01:05:12 I think you'll notice a difference within a week or two. Fast, yeah, really quick. Really fast. It's actually, I know we call Prime Pro our correctional program, which kind of gives it the illusion that it's only for people who have pain or aches and pains. I'll tell you something right now. You do, if you have no pains

Starting point is 01:05:30 and you feel like you're good in the gym or whatever and you do prime pro and you apply it to, you know, parts of your body, whether it's your hips or your feet or your hands or whatever and just do them right, you know, do them like we explain in the videos, you will notice a significant improvement in your performance just because your CNS is now able to connect better. Yeah, just think about how much more effective all of your lists would be if every joint was

Starting point is 01:05:52 super stable. And you could just fire them well on command. It's one of those things that we don't sell it a lot as a performance type of a program, but honestly, it's one of the best and most effective things you can do as far as from a performance perspective as well. Absolutely. Yeah, you get more connected to those longer, you know, larger ranges of motion. It just gives you a greater ability to stimulate muscle growth and to train and better and to navigate. You can navigate in that space,

Starting point is 01:06:25 whereas you're uncomfortable for, so think about that. Like if you end up in a position where you're uncomfortable with it, right? And now you have to get out of that position and drive forces through that position. Well, you know, that's like injury and that's like more like more issues that will arise because you're just unfamiliar with that feeling

Starting point is 01:06:49 Next question is from Salinas 174 Is it beneficial for performance-based individuals to cross-training in different sports or focus on their one sport for maximizing performance? Who had who got the questions today? Yeah, what do you sell? I got all these good questions. It's not me. Sometimes people are asking them. Well, sometimes you do all the fucking hippie shit

Starting point is 01:07:11 that just drives the crazy. This is a real hell. This is, these are good questions right now. These are fire and this one is, I give credit to the people asking the questions. Right, you know, this is a, maybe if you pick some questions and we wouldn't just be,

Starting point is 01:07:23 I mean, the questions all the time't just be right on the table. Questions all the time. I was just complimenting you. I think they're great questions right now. So this is cool because it depends. I think, no, I think you're a kid, right? So they've talked about this. I don't know who we interviewed that we got into this discussion.

Starting point is 01:07:41 You guys remember getting into this discussion on the show? You know what, yes. I do. It was, was it Andy? Dr. It was a sports psychologist. Oh, it was a sports psychologist guy.

Starting point is 01:07:50 Yeah. What's his name? Who was it? Remake, there you go. There you go. It was him, what we talked about. Yeah, because he was talking about that with parents too and how like they were so myopic.

Starting point is 01:07:59 Right. Like one sport, like we're going to dominate this one sport because this is like the new standard whereas like it really affected the overall performance of the athlete. Right. Which you would think, you would think, you know, that that would be ideal, right? Yeah. Is to specialize.

Starting point is 01:08:15 Yeah. Specialize in that. But when you're going to those those early years, you're going to get way more benefit by cross, crossing over. Now fast forward that to somebody who's 30 or 40, you're, you're, you're old, and you're probably gonna benefit way more by honing in on one sport, or becoming a master at that, but there's,

Starting point is 01:08:33 as a, as a young child, there's so many, there's so many things going on neurologically with proprioception and they're just their own body awareness and strength and stability that they're still putting together, that having this wide range or spectrum of sports that you that you play in are going to benefit you, you know, swimming and volleyball and basketball and football and wrestling and judo, they all have these individual benefits that will carry over building this great foundation.

Starting point is 01:08:59 Now, once you have that as a young kid moving into being a young adult, now becoming more specialized would be more beneficial. I couldn't have said that better myself. I mean, when you're young, you're looking at developing general athletic ability, more than, or at least that is just as important as developing specific athletic ability. As you get older, you start to take away from your performance in your chosen sport.

Starting point is 01:09:25 Like if you're a baseball player and you're really good at baseball and that's your chosen sport, but then you go and devote a bunch of time to playing basketball or powerlifting. I'll use that as a better example because it's more extreme. They're both going to take away from each other. Whereas when you're a kid, not so much. Now, if your goal is to just maximize overall performance and health, then cross training is ideal,

Starting point is 01:09:51 because it's going to encourage different movement patterns, it's going to discourage what happens when you specialize in a sport, which is muscle imbalances and recruitment pattern issues where I've trained, and I'll use kids as an example. I've trained kids who played baseball for, I trade this one guy who was a high school baseball player. He was a senior and he was throwing almost 90 miles an hour

Starting point is 01:10:19 as a senior, okay? But when he came to me and left weights, because we started lifting weights, because he was getting all these injuries, as a senior, okay? But when he came to me and lift weights, because we started lifting weights because he was getting all these injuries, his right arm was so much stronger than his left arm. It was silly. He actually had a twist in his spine

Starting point is 01:10:34 because he never balanced his body out. And so now he develops such horrible recruitment patterns as a result. Oh, it was terrible. We would do rows. And I could cut him in half. It was like two different people, like this scapular retracts and this one doesn't want to even connect.

Starting point is 01:10:49 It was really, really, really weird. And you can start to do that if you specialize just in one sport for too long, especially as a kid. But as you get older, I think, maybe there's a shelf life to that. That's a good point though, that if you're what your goal, your main goal is like if you just want to be good It's you want to just be very athletic. Yeah, then there's lots of benefits to all over the place But if you want to be great at that sport, nothing's gonna benefit you more than being practicing your sport doing it over and over and over

Starting point is 01:11:16 You know they did They there's there was a burial site or something that they excavated in the UK in England, I believe. And it was an ancient Roman burial site and they pulled the bones out and they could tell that some of the people that were buried were discus throwers or they've pulled up bones and said, oh, these are longbowmen. Yeah. And the longbow, so a longbow, you know, in medieval times was a deadly, deadly military weapon.

Starting point is 01:11:51 It was a massive bow that required, I think the estimates were 140 or 170 pounds of pulling strength before one of them. That's a big deal. And the 60 pound bower is a big bow. It was, I don't know, maybe Doug can look look at up maybe that look up the force required to pull along board medieval longbow something ridiculous but they were devastating because of their distance so your military could literally just

Starting point is 01:12:14 hammer another army far away and they couldn't touch you uh... until they got to some distance and you would just estimate them with these longbow men and these men were trained specifically to be able to operate these longbows as they were since they were kids. Now when they pull the bones out, the spines would be twisted and the right arms, like their forearms and shoulders were much thicker than their left. They must have looked so strange walking around.

Starting point is 01:12:42 Like you must be able to look at them and be like, oh, that's a long moment, because their bodies literally contorted and twisted and adapted to be able to pull on these things. So did you guys see Joe Rogan's new toy? No, yeah, the one where he's like the bow, yeah, bro. The techno, techno bra. Oh, it was at least 81 pounds, sorry, I was way over it.

Starting point is 01:13:04 Which is still high. That's crazy. Yeah, 60 pound bows are pretty fucking tough bow to pull back. Dude, he's got a, a, you know, like though, you guys have seen those digital golf games where you hit the golf ball and the screen. I didn't see this. So it's hunting. Yeah. You got real deer and elk. It's awesome. Oh, it looks so fun. Dude, I'm not even a bow hunting guy now on that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we're gonna have to get like super fun.

Starting point is 01:13:26 Yeah, so it says there that it was 81 to maybe 130 pounds of force to be able to pull that thing. So, but yeah, you know, if you're looking for overall athletic performance, you're gonna wanna cross train. And here's the thing about kids and about, you know, especially when they get into junior high in high school, I think a lot of parents kind of get this false, like notion that their kid is going to be a superstar. Very false. And so they fuck them

Starting point is 01:13:55 up by, you know, creating all these imbalances and doing all the specialized training. When in reality, your kid's good, but he's not going to be the best and you're probably better off, you know, cross training, I'm so that they're he's not gonna be the best, and you're probably better off cross training him so that they're healthy. So then having new problems, like I use the example of the picture, but I don't know, have you guys ever trained somebody who pitched, you know, their life?

Starting point is 01:14:15 That fucks them up, you know, messes them up. So, well, especially that's for, because that one's really, so one-sided. Yeah, a picture, a picture, you're not only only one side, but you're also calling upon it like reps and reps. I'll tell you what if you're if you're a really good athletic trainer You can I don't know about you guys can do this. I'm pretty sure I can typically Tell what sport. Oh, yeah, somebody plays a lot by easily their posture or how they move like fighters boxers forward shoulder they've all got that really bad forward

Starting point is 01:14:50 shoulder and that's because when your box and you know tend to struggle a little bit because when you're boxing that's how you cover yourself up yeah they hold themselves in that position all the time and they've got that you know kind of forward shoulders you swimmers all the time they've got that interesting you know kind of forward shoulder similar but flat you know type of ribcage you see it in you know lots of different sports you can kind of forward shoulder similar, but flat, you know, type of rib cage. You see it in, you know, lots of different sports, you can kind of start to pick apart what sport they play because of how their body's developed based on that sport.

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