Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 708: Finding Time for Health & Fitness, How to Include Barre, Yoga & Pilates into Your Fitness Routine, Choosing Between Health & Aesthetics & MORE

Episode Date: February 16, 2018

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to focus on health and fitness when pressed for time, if Barre/Yoga/Pilates would be the equivalent of a mobility or trigger session, if they would rather be extremely out of shape aesthetically and really healthy or really good looking and always getting sick, poor energy, etc for the rest of their life and if they think the nutrition/wellness/active world, suffers from a lack of independent thinking. Evolution of music and groundbreaking artists…Find out the guys favorites and get deep into a discussion of how music has changed. (4:41) Did Sal push the Carnivore Diet a little too far? Listen to the alarming details. (23:23) Current Events with Mind Pump: Trump replacing food stamps with food boxes to cut spending?? The guys weigh in and ruffle some feathers. (26:04) Sal drops what he will use to heal his gut (49:15) Quah question #1 - How to focus on health and fitness when pressed for time and sedentary? (50:32) Quah question #2 – Would you say Barre/Yoga/Pilates would be the equivalent of a mobility or trigger session? How often would you add them to your training days? (1:01:42) Quah question #3 - Would you rather be extremely out of shape aesthetically and really healthy or really good looking and always getting sick, poor energy, etc. for the rest of their life? (1:10:54) Quah question #4 - Do you think the nutrition/wellness/active world, suffers from a lack of independent thinking? (1:19:22) Links/Products Mentioned: Mihirangimusic – YouTube Hit Makers: How to Succeed in an Age of Distraction - Derek Thompson Trump wants to replace food stamps with ‘Blue Apron-type program’ More US Cities Are Cracking Down on Feeding the Homeless Organifi (Official MP Sponsor) Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off MAPS HIIT Training - Mind Pump Media Coupon code – “HIITLAUNCH” at checkout for $20 off and FREE t-shirt! Deal good until Sunday February 18th MAPS PRIME - Mind Pump Media People Mentioned: Led Zeppelin Madonna (@Madonna)  Twitter Jimi Hendrix Nirvana Michael Jordan LeBron James (@KingJames)  Twitter Tom Brady (@tombrady)  Instagram You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. So today, right, you know, we start off and we get into questions and Sal wants... He gets to the third rail question that we answered today. And he dishes off the answer right away to John looking around just like, I had started on this. I'm like, where do we go with this?

Thanks for that. Well, awkward ball you just threw. So in this episode of Mind Pump for the first 44 minutes, we do our intro, current events, conversation. First off, we talk about Led Zeppelin, the greatest rock band of all time at him. And band that have changed. This is the game. We talk about my carnivore diet after back.

Oops. Carnivore explosion. It was a greasy blowout. We talk about Trump's food box and the welfare third rail. That's what Adam was referring to. We offended some people. Maybe we answer some questions. Find out, we'll see how that goes.

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this individual is a medical student, six hours of lectures every single day, studies for four to five hours every night. They're obviously sedentary because of this workload and they know it's bad for the health, health, excuse me. What can they do? What can they do for activity? What can they do to improve their health? We give some really good solid tips in this episode. The next question was, this individual wants to know if bar classes, yoga classes, Pilates classes, can replace mobility or trigger sessions. If you have maps, performance, or maps, and a ballac,

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but always getting sick with poor energy, etc. for the rest of our lives? If we had to trade one for the rest of our lives. If we had to trade one for the other, which one would we pick and is that even a question you can possibly ask? Yeah. Can that even help the, do I not look good? Exactly.

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Yeah. Which one's your favorite? Is that one your number one? No. I like the immigrant song. Oh yeah. Yeah. Such a good one. What about you Adam? Do you have a favorite Zeppelin song? I'm not a big Zepplin fan need to be honest. Whoa That being said like I like I like Led Zeppelin, but I did that out dog. We don't want anybody to tell that no

No, I mean it felt it. It's just a big grief if I'm if I'm being honest there they're after our time So it's not a band that for our time. Yeah, but what I say as I say after sorry before our time, so it's not a ban. Before our time. Yeah, but what I say after sorry. Before our time, it's not a ban that I grew up on. So I didn't grow up on listening to them. It's more of my dad's generation. Now I got into classic rock. I absolutely listened. I owned the Led Zeppelin CDs for sure,

but I wasn't listening to Led Zeppelin on A-Track. And I wasn't listening to Led Zeppelin on cassette. So I can't claim to be like a huge fan. I listened to Zeppelin in high school all the time. Yeah. So I listened to more first introduction to Metallica and AC DC. I listened to more than anything. Well, AC DC goes back quite a bit. Right. They're also, they also played stuff. That was and they also still close. They also still tour. I mean, I've seen AC DC twice. You know what I'm saying? So there are, there are a band that I've seen. I've seen,

and I, I like AC DC and I like Metallica better than I like Led Zeppelin. And a lot of people, I mean, those are both great bands. Don't get me wrong. And a lot of people that put them on kind of equal status. But you can't, it's just different. Zeppelin is just such a pioneer.

They're so iconic. Bro, if you listen to just all Led Zeppelin songs, you'll be listening for hours and you'll continuously listen to music that is massive. That is just, you know what I mean? Like the Beatles, I feel it after him. I feel like Led Zepp, like rage against the machine is our generation's Led Zeppelin.

That's how I feel. When you think of the level of intelligence behind the writing of what they are putting out, how groundbreaking and different the music they were putting out, I think that... I mean, my personal opinion, you know, I love rage against machine, but they'll rage never reached the level of... I mean Zeppelin changed the culture, period. You know what I mean? Like they changed. Like if you looked up top 10 most,

or top 10 rock and roll bands of all time, or rock bands, or well yeah, Jimmy Page is one of the greatest guitar, guitarists of all time. And it's just, what I think is like they had a different train of thought when they started writing the music, it didn't sound like anything else that was out there. That's the thing, it's hard to hear it afterward, because you know what I started doing when I was in.

So when I was in high school. If you used playing the mandolin. Pro. What? When I was in high school, I started listening to, because I never really connected to the music of our generation, except for like raging against the machine and, you know, Metallica, a couple of things.

Most of the popular music that was on the radio, I didn't connect to, like I'd play, and I'd be like, this is all. Well, we grew up in the generation of pop that didn't exist before us. Like pop didn't really exist before, dude. Pop wasn't like it was. The pop TV changed everything.

Yeah, MTV in the early 80s completely changed music and how we listen to music. Do you know how many artists wouldn't even have become famous if it wasn't for MTV? Like, like, I'm gonna piss off some people are guarantee it, but in this individual's extremely talented, don't get me wrong, but there's no way in hell, Madonna would have done anything,

even remotely as successful as she did if it wasn't for MTV. Because- Oh, wow, you are gonna piss it, because I don't know, that's a tough one right there. She's got, who was first? Was it her or Cindy Lopper? Because Cindy Lopper's another one,

like these are, she was, yeah. These are artists that, when MTV came out. But Madonna did first, bro, was pretty, I don't know. Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, no. That's a, no doubt. Well, it's because of the visual though. She had like all of that together to where like when she tour and stuff, it was like

all the girls were dressing like her. Yeah, no doubt, no doubt. I'm not arguing that it was not a fashion thing. Accelerated because of MTV for sure. I mean, I know that I'm not arguing that it was not a fact. Accelerated because of MTV for sure because she is, she brought on that, that first like visual, you know, like no one cared, no one cared what, let Zeppelin did on stage. Well, no one's talking about that. You got to, you know, a lot of about success, you have to have talent but then timing, right?

So think about it this way. Would Joe Rogan be as big as he is if he did, if this was the 50s and he could only get on radio, probably not? It was podcasting that he was perfect for. Yeah. Madonna. His censorship back then was everything. That's right.

Madonna and a lot of these artists got big because they existed in an era where, you know, MTV made the visual as important as the audio. Before that, the visual wasn't nearly as important at all. Not at all. Like the Ramones. Let me put it this way. The Ramones have gotten famous in the MTV era.

No way. It's like three ugly fucking dudes. Like, they have no appeal in that sense, but their music was kind of different. They're so it's very, very different. But when I listen to old classic, when I listen to classic rock or old music, older music, I like to try to place myself in that era, like listening to it for the first time.

For example, Jimmy Hendrix. Jimmy Hendrix, if you listen to Hendrix today, if I show a kid today, they're gonna be like, wow, this is really good music. But it's even more than that, because when Hendrix was doing you listen to Hendrix today, if I show a kid today, they're gonna be like, wow, this is really good music. But it's even more than that, because when Hendrix was doing shit with the guitar that he was doing, nobody done that before. Could you imagine hearing that shit for the first time?

Yeah, but you also sound like an old barnacle who always references old classical stuff. Like we evolve in everything. We've always talked about how fitness is evolved and the evolution of all these things and how we compound things that we've learned from before and so you know when you guys get so Barnacle yeah So you guys the kids history well, and I think it's gonna be history and don't get me wrong

I think that there's a lot to get from and I like classic rock to you But I also listen to a lot of music today like I think there's a lot to take from that too. And I think what happens to a lot of people is they get older because you don't have the same passion for music as you have when you're a kid. When you're a kid, at least I don't know what you guys, but I was heavy in the music. I watched MTV every single day. I was downloading, I knew what every band that I liked that I listened to,

I knew when their next album released and what it was going to be like and the teaser that got released, the release before. And I'd be the first one to next album released and what it was gonna be like and the teaser that got released before and I'd be the first one to listen to it and critique it with my buddies. Like, I just don't have that same type of time that I applied to music today, but there's a lot of great music that still is made today. And I think that when we always reference back these

all the way, we look when sound fucking like a bunch of old guys. But no, what I think that don't pay attention to what's going on today. No, I think what happens is the past is always romanticized because you have a different, you've got a broader context, you have hindsight. So 20 years from now, there's gonna be music

that's made today that people can look back and they can see really the impact that it's had. You know what I'm saying? Well, I think, I think too, why we're talking about Led Zeppelin's because that was like a period in time where like music changed, right? So like they did something completely different

to shake up the entire music industry. And there's been moments like that where I was just watching the history of hip hop and you know how like the evolution of like how they started with the turntables and they took beats, like they took one beat from this funk song and then they'd loop it. And so they loop it and then they created this dance party.

And this dance party, they figured out that when it would hit the hardest on that one beat, they could keep that beat going and everybody was stoked. And so then they went from there to then learning how to scratch and then it progressed into this what we hear today and then somebody wrapped on top of it.

But this has happened, so I'm always looking for that next kind of new sound. Yeah. I know EDM sort of made that and then you hear some rap change, but I haven't really heard a lot of evolution in the rock front in a long time. I think they're progressing. I think it's going to come back. I think it'll, because we went electronic.

You know what? You know what rock is doing really big different right now. There's a lot of collaboration between rock and country right now. Oh really? Yes. There's a lot of pushback on that. So if you're like a purist with country music, you fucking hate that new type of music. But if you look at, there's a group or a genre of...

What do they call it? Are they calling it anything? Yeah, there's a name for it. I don't know. Country? That's what it is, right? You have rock stars that are singing country, or country singers that are singing rock, and kind of the mesh of the two of them. Real somewhere to how we saw rock and rap kind of collab. So you see a lot of collabs happening right now and people... We saw a big change when we were kids. I mean, Nirvana was one of those bands. Nirvana was, they busted through and put it out there.

Like, oh shit. Yeah, just change everything. And just the whole job. And again, what we sound like is a bunch of old guys, because we talk about what we know, because we were a part of what you don't realize is, it's a reminds me when I get an argument with friends that don't really understand sports

The same one that I do because I've been watching sports religiously since I was a kid It's like arguing LeBron James and Michael Jordan It's like Michael Jordan revolutionized the game of basketball and even though LeBron James is more of a physical specimen If you put them both on the court LeBron James would gobble up Michael Jordan gobble him up because he's that much better than he is But if it wasn't for Michael LeBron may have never existed because that guy changed it, which is how you could argue Led Zeppelin and think like that. Guys today, but there's people today that are doing unbelievable. Sure, of course, we're not unbelievable.

I'm not just counting that. I just haven't seen like, I'm not in the loop, obviously. Right, that's all I'm trying to say is that we're not in the fucking loop. One thing I have seen though, and I know it hasn't taken off, but I really enjoyed it. They call it kind of like two-step in hardcore, which is like, you know, within the metal genre, there's like been a lot of different directions with that. There's like a real jazz-focused kind of like metal, which is really hard to listen to, but

it's so technical. It's like very impressive to watch. But yeah, this two-step, it's like, it reminds me of, you guys ever listen to rockabilly or any of that. So imagine that, like, combined with a heavier beat and a heavier, like, raw singing on top of it. Like, every time I die, I think was one of the bands I listened to that kind of was starting that direction. But yeah, like, I'm looking more, of it, like every time I die, I think was one of the bands I listened to that kind of was starting that direction, but yeah, like I'm looking more, of course, like I'm more prone to rock, but I'm totally open to like, I think it's funny when people hate on certain things, because I don't know, I just have such a different outlook in life, like not just music, coming sports,

everything, I had this debate the other day with somebody about the whole Tom Brady thing, and hoping they lose, because they cheated and all kinds of shit It's like dude I I love seeing greatness. I love hearing like I love all genres of music too Like I can sit down and listen to something that is not like my typical song that I would play Inside my car or maybe the stuff that I typically gravitate towards because somebody's fucking ridiculously talented right like it could be something So out of my yeah, so out of my genre, but that I'm like, man, that guy or girl is fucking.

Here's the thing, when you think of music or movies or sports of the past, the reason why there's a difference between how they're perceived versus now, I think has less to do with not being plugged into the culture and more to do with, you have time to see what the real impact is. So while Jordan was playing during that period, everybody was like, wow, this is one of the best players of all time, but you fast forward 20 or 30 years.

And now you can see the impact that he had on the game. And then you can really look and appreciate, you know, how, how great of a player was. And that's the same thing with music. When you look back, when Zeppelin was playing in the 70s, people all loved Zeppelin. They were very popular, they were the most popular band at that time. So knowing that, don't you think it's naive of us

to think that's not happening at this very moment? I don't think anybody's thinking that that's not happening now. Yeah, of course, not at all. I just just different. Well, you are when you make statements like the music's crap today. Like when you say things like that, what you've said before, that's just my own personal preference

of liking music. But do I think music today is going to impact music of the future? Of course, it's all part of the process. But that's my own personal preference. You know what I think is fucking rad in what has completely changed the game and it's not a single person or type of music. It's the ability for a person on YouTube to become famous and he like that, that sage, what's her name?

I remember that girl you introduced and you knew that it was like her one man band. Right, she's from like Australia or something, right? And she went viral on YouTube and that's how I found her. I got to watch her live and stand like five feet from her and this girl is fucking oh, dude so unbelievably talented I mean you want to and she's changing the game this wasn't okay. You want to talk about somebody then now There's some people that can do this she in my opinion that she's the most talented person. I've seen in person do this

She's a one a one man band or one woman band and and she's playing like Six different instruments that she puts all in a loop to make one sound, and it's, she just layers it like an onion. It's so dope, it is so sick, and that's something that couldn't be done 15 years ago that we're watching happen right now that's going to change how music's done for this. And there's also this, so YouTube has also done this.

And I was at my daughter's dance, right, this weekend, and they played this song, and all the kids went fucking crazy. And if it wasn't for YouTube, there's no way in hell this piece of shit would ever get half a billion listens or views on YouTube. Let's see if you guys know what this is. I doubt you know what it is Adam,

because you don't have kids. You might have heard it Justin. I know Doug's heard this. Let's see if you recognize this. What? What? Oh my god, yeah. I Feel like I've heard this. Yeah. So this is a fucking video with the guy singing about a pen and a pineapple. Pineapple

Pen. Yes. Yeah. And it's combined views on his videos are half a billion. Every fucking kid knows him. They're like the guacamole lady. Yeah, well, it's ridiculous, but it's a song and everybody from... Everybody from New Jersey from some like China. Korea. Korea. Japan.

Japan. Okay, so he's from Japan. So, okay, first of all, I bet you a majority of that was it, most of the people that viewed it are from Japan first. And now you've got America. Massive, massive in America. It's like the one guy who did the, what's it called the fucking?

Oh, the, what does a, yes, Foxy. What no, no, no, the guy, the guy. That's another one, right? That's another one. That's another one. The first one to really, the first, like you tell him about the black dude with a keyboard Where he's like he's got the really nice black eyes like a gung

Yes, thank you, Doug. Yeah, that was something that went viral over there first and it made its way over here And that it's just so just trying to recreate that to like it's interesting because like it's such a massive So when you read when you read the book hitmakers, they break this fucking down and it's been happening. That's it. No, they don't, but they break down the formula of why that goes viral. And they break it down all the way back to music in the 20s. Now, people maybe didn't understand the science of it back then and they were just kind of figuring it out. But we now, and that's another thing that's different about now than then, is we understand the science of youth formula.

You made a point Justin right now that we understand now. We understand that we could put a beat. We could put this beat and this beat together, and that causes something to happen in people's bodies. Physically. Does something. So when kids hear that, it is doing something. That's the reason why it went viral.

It didn't go viral because it's shitty. It went viral because somebody actually, oh no, it went viral. It went viral. It went viral shitty it went viral because somebody actually oh no, no, it went viral very a very It went viral brilliant formula and then it is and then they recreated people build off of other people's discoveries But it went viral and it is shitty. That's all I meant not because it is clearly again That's what we think but you know obviously a half a billion people disagree with you. Oh I don't know I feel like up at least half of those people are listening to it because it's ridiculous.

But it's interesting, so when I was referencing, like going back and regressing, so you see bands like the white stripes, and you see bands like the black keys, and people like that that have emerged because it's like, we've heard the evolution of where you can go electronically almost. To where let's get back to really raw sound.

Sounds that's not overly produced. Like rocks and sticks. Honestly, people are going in that direction. There will always be a counter. So I think that as time evolves, there's going to be people like ourselves that don't evolve on all the music and get stuck to what we really like and what we recognize and what's comfortable to us

and there's smart people that know that and we'll create that because let's be honest, the probably the best buying generation is the 35 to 45 mix, that's when you make good money, but you haven't evolved your ear to listening because you don't give a shit about that type of stuff anymore. You still like your old stuff, So if I'm a smart band, I might create a sound that reminds you

of your fucking childhood. Yeah. You appreciate. If I was any good, like I would start a band that did like old school rock and bully slash, like rock and roll, like that, that arrow or it was just like,

I don't know, I have this like sentimental, like feeling. I know I saw your picture stuff. I know I saw your picture. I saw your picture when you were in the app. You love not that many people are in you anymore. So it's like, you know, it's not popular. I don't know if it'll ever come out. I love apps just absolutely love music.

I love all music. There's not a lot of music that I don't like. I think it's really, I think everybody, there's a talent, there's a very, very talented person to get something from in almost every genre. And I can, I can sit down and listen. Music's just interesting the way it affects the brain. It really lights up the entire brain.

It's universal across all cultures, and it's been with humans for as long as we have records. And I think now, it's very interesting. I think now we understand that more than we ever have. So you talk about the generation now, compared to our generation who is just kind of rocking to new revolutionary music that we don't know why. The audience now is I just wait till AI can fucking figure out the right combination of notes that gets people excited and all music will be produced by this guarantee we're close I feel like we're close playing the brown

note. Yeah. But they're here about that. No, what is that? Oh, it's his base. I don't know if this is a hypothetical thing But it's called the brown note. It's like you get slow enough in the the Bounce in the base where it's supposedly Some people to shit their pants speaking of which so I fucking pushed it way too hard Yeah, what pushed the fast, pushed what you ate now? No, dude, so I did my fast, and then I'm like, okay, I'm gonna play this carnivore diet thing and see what happens.

So I had no plant products whatsoever yesterday, but I pushed the food in the meat. Oh, dude, I had a pound of ground beef and egg yolks. I had a fucking rib eye the size of my head. I had, you know, drank a bunch of beef, you know, bone broth and did a bunch of stuff and just last night, dude, I don't know what that was, I'm 1 a.m. I've wake up like Adam, you're waking up out of your sleep because you almost shit yourself. Oh, do you ever have any, you wake up, you

like, oh, oh, wait a minute. And I'm like, maybe you ever have to take a shit in the middle of night, that's bad. I feel like that's not a good thing. It's not a good thing. It's not a good thing. You never, you never, the middle of the night, take a shit. Never, anytime that's happened to me, it was like I was doing some bad eatin' dude. Yeah, sure.

There's never a good shit when you're woken up with it. So I wake up and I do one of those like, okay, maybe I can, That reminds me of the story. Maybe I can let out the gas, you know what I'm saying? Maybe I can just let off a little pressure because I don't wanna get up because I'm fucking sleepy. And nope, that was a mistake.

So, whoa. The toilet. Is that like a shart mistake? No, I caught it before that happened. Oh man. I'm pretty fast. And it was, it was all bad. So this morning I'm gonna go very easy and see what happens.

But if it continues on today, I'm going to have to end my carnivore diet experiment. No, not to gross everybody out, but I am wondering like, because my concern of eating like that is super high meat like that and no backup. Is, yeah, the note lack of fiber. So did you, did you feel constipated also too, or did it go out pretty fine? No, no, it's actually the opposite of constipation. That was your experience. I think I had, you know what I think I had,

I actually think I might have pushed the fat intake too high. And that's what might have caused it. Because then for dinner I had this bro, I had this ribeye, that was this big. And then I had like sausage with it. And then I'm drinking this bone broth, that when I put the bone broth in the fridge Because I had in the fridge all time after a fast tube

We think I wasn't obviously I wasn't thinking I was so mad at myself Perfect slide. I was supposed to work out this morning and I was tired because I was shitting for 45 minutes in the middle night So oh my god, this reminds me right out the butt tube Your son that's that's my son calls it like it We're a dinner and he's just like, he's like, down, I'm gonna poop out my but tube. I was fucking found my chair. I was dying. I was like, that's so accurate. How proud of your kid are you? Oh my god. It comes up with shit like that. I'm like, that is so hilarious. Please keep using that. That's a term, you

know. All right, you guys wait for some carnivants. Do it. It's warning. way to turn. All right, you guys ready for some current events? Let's do it. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D- wants to replace food stamps with food boxes. So, what? Yeah, so instead of food stamps, what people are gonna get now in the mail is a box of made in America food that includes non-perishable items. So it'll be like non-perishable milk, peanut butter, orange juice,

probably government cheese or whatever, instead of food stamps. And this is supposed to save $129 billion over the next 10 years. And people are pissed off, right? Because when you have a food stamp, you have more flexibility of what you're going to buy. Oh, and dollar store sales, excuse me, dollar store stocks plummeted after this news because so many people use food stamps at the dollar store.

So, what do you guys think about that? Do you think it's a smart? Because he is gonna save money. He's gonna save money. I know, I love it. He's a third-round dancer. It's a curtain of anger. It's all in the news right now.

So, what do you guys think? Do you guys think that that's a, because I know what my opinion is on this, but he's trying to save money and he's trying to do the whole American made thing, eliminate food stamps, replace it with a box of food at your door. There's arguments on both sides. What do you guys think?

Well, I don't think you get to do that. I don't think you get to bring it up like that and then dish it off. So one of us could get to do that. Oh, yeah, my opinion first. Yeah, that's like, I'll tell you why I think that's- Because you know, that's a loaded compass. I'm not us could get to put it in my opinion first. Yeah, that's like, I'll tell you why I'm doing it. Because you know, that's a loaded, uh,

complex. I'm not a good person to ask about welfare type stuff, dude. It's like whatever we say is going to piss somebody off. Well, I can tell you what my opinion is on the whole thing. Because I know, I think I know what he's trying to do. He's trying to, so he cut taxes. He's trying to cut spending now. He's, he's trying to bring back a lot of money to the budget.

He's trying to cut, which they need to cut spending. That's the bottom line. Although I think that's not the smartest way to cut spending. I, my personal opinion, if you really want to save money, and I know why he wouldn't do this, because it would piss off his base of conservatives, but it would be, which is hypocritical because it would save more money than anything he's saying is The problem with food stamps is when you give people food stamps

You're limiting their options with money to food when they could do with it when you give people a box of food You're limiting it even further If you really want to save money on welfare what you need to do is look at the cost of administering All this welfare services and I'm talking about all of, like count all of it. There's childcare services, there's food stamps services, there's services that, there's just all these different types of services that are under welfare,

cost a lot of money and part of the expense is the bureaucracy that we employ to manage it, distribute it, and to put it all together, which I think is a big fucking waste of money, is the bureaucracy. Like, if we want to give people money, give them money, send them a check, figure out what all that welfare costs. Figure that out, cut the cost of bureaucracy, and give a check to people, and tell them, because it's their responsibility. At the end of the day, the burden of responsibility is on them, and are some people gonna buy alcohol and drugs

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I think that most, and here I'm gonna offend some people for sure, but before I offend everybody, let me back up first and tell people that I've lived off of welfare and food stamps when I was a kid, right? So we've been through that. But, and this, I'm just not, I'm not a fan of how our whole welfare system is set up period.

I think it promotes uh... bad habits i think it promotes people uh... milking the system i think it promotes people manipulating the system and i think a majority not all but a majority of the people that take it that use it take advantage of it and i think that really hurts us as a collective like all people that have to help provide taxes and pay for it. So I'm not a fan of it at all. Now, this is my personal experience because what I've seen around me.

And this isn't just picking on my personal family. I know a lot of people that, you know, here's the attitude they have. And I remember this conversation when I was a teenager with my mother and she was collecting welfare between jobs. And I remember thinking, mom, you are smart enough that you could walk into like a Starbucks and I know that they would give you a job and you could easily work up to be in management within a year. And yeah, it's not great money. And yeah, this and that, but it's better than nothing, right? And her logic behind not going to get a job was that the difference in money that she would make by going to work is so small that it doesn't make sense

for her to go do that. So she would refuse to do that. That's it. Now, that being said, which is, which is logic, right? That's logical. And so let's fast forward to some other things that I learned growing up as I got older. You know, my mom never got out of these bad habits because what happens with most people is it doesn't matter how much money they have, it's the habits that they've created. They don't know how to manage money correctly. So they're making $20,000 in food and food stamps a year versus them all sudden getting a job for $75,000.

You'll be surprised though, that same person will be living paycheck to paycheck because they have poor habits. And I recognize this a lot too when I would provide money for my mom. I'd say, hey mom, here's 500 bucks, I know you need groceries, you need things like that. And then I remember coming back in my mid-twenties, I'd come back to see her in town.

And she was out at the water park with my brothers and sisters and the kids' neighbors, or the neighbor kids. And I'm like, wait a second, just like a month ago, you had to borrow $500 from me and now you're going to the water park with the fucking neighbor kids. Like, yeah, I know that's only a few hundred bucks

and you wanna give your kids and I get it. I get what you want, but you don't have that luxury. You shouldn't do that. Those type of people tend to make those fucking decisions. At least every person I've ever met, that's been that. Now I know there's somebody listening right now that probably goes Hey, that really helped me so you got me from here to my next job and it saved my family my just so I'm sure

There's a percentage of people out there But I also believe those percentage of people probably have somebody like me or someone else in their life that would lend them a Hand to help to get them up and we're better off as humans. I think Using each other like that. So here's the same way, I don't know, kinda I look at charities, like for me, it's always like, okay, I contribute to the charities that are more prone to helping initially, and getting like provisions and, you know, housing

or things like that to promote independence going forward, and presentations of jobs and opportunities. So it all leads to opportunity. So it's like this, it, you know, as far as like welfare is concerned, it's the same thing. Like we wanted to lead into then transitioning. Like so we're not we're not staying there. It's something that position, especially if you're an able bodied person. So here's the deal, I'm not disagreeing with a lot of what you're saying Adam, but here's the reality, the reality is,

we have a large percentage of the population now that has been, that relies on and has been conditioned to be on these programs and systems. And if we just take it away, what will end up happening is major, major civil unrest. I agree. And a lot of the problems.

So what I'm saying is I don't, I think here's the two things we do. You think that this is a step in that direction. So that's what I'm trying to say. So I agree with that. Yeah, well, if that's your point that you're making with this, I agree with that. Because in my opinion, it's got point that you're making with this, I agree with that. In my opinion, it's got to fucking go at one point.

Because in my opinion, it's a fucking crutch. It's a crutch. And think of yourself right up in the band. Forget the fact that maybe nobody in this room has actually collected food stamps themselves other than myself as a child. Like as an adult, you've never done that. I know damn well about myself.

Every day, even though I try, I say say I give it a hundred percent there's more inside of me because I tell you what if I if I lost everything and I was on the street you would see a whole nother version of me that because the survival mode and we all have that animal instinct in us I believe we all have that primal ability of if you were going to fucking die in starve you would figure something out here's and if you if you have if you have something to catch you and we've and we have we've made it so easy for people to do that like I watched my mom you would figure something out. Well, here's, and if you have something to catch you, and we have, we've made it so easy for people to do that. Like, I watched my mom teach it to my sister,

and now I see my sister going down the same path and she teaches it to her, it's fucking easy. Oh, no, it's an epidemic. And people get angry when they hear that, but that is a reality. There are, they are sending it over. No, listen, it's a reality. It does create an incentive to not work. That is a reality. They are, they are- Someone's gonna get it over. I know I would. No, listen, it's a reality.

It does create an incentive to not work. It does create an incentive for people to not become more independent. And it places the burden on other people because the reality of the truth is the only burden that someone has is to take care of themselves. That's the fact. Now, it's ideal in a society that people volunteer to help each other out. That's ideal.

But the reality is that the burden is on the individual to take care of themselves. Now, we do have a system where we have massive amounts of people that are reliant upon the system. Generally, generationally, have been on the system. And you can't just take it away because you would, you would say cutting off your nose

despite your face, it would cause way more problems that it would solve. So my, what I'm saying is number one, let's look at the ultimate goal way down the line. The ultimate goal down the line is an entirely voluntary society. A society where people are not forced to do anything. That means includes not pay taxes, everything's voluntary.

People help themselves and help each other if they want to. And there's plenty of opportunities. But to get there, we have to go from where we're at now to get there. And I think the next step is not what Trump is saying, which is a box of food instead of fucking food stamps, because I think that's a stupid idea. I think cut the bureaucracy,

because then you save money on top of it. You could say to your conservatives because if I was a politician, I'd fucking I would sell this so well. I'd easily say, look, hey, I'd like to see it privatized. I would love to see I don't know. I have no problem giving that money, but I want to know where it's going. Like, let's let's say at the end of the year that I you know that I end up paying You know a total of 20,000 dollars worth of taxes that will go to charitable things like welfare, right? Let's say that I have no problem still paying that same amount But then just give me the option to tell me or it's be able to say I want 10,000 to go here

I want 2,000 to go here 1,000 to go here and let all these different charities compete to come to people like us and Explain like what they're doing the movement They're and let us pick that that would never they would never do that because I know because it's because it's because then it would fuck government People don't understand people don't realize this the amount of money that the government collects To pick to give out quote-unquote to welfare recipients a large percentage of that Go for the government. Oh, yeah, 100%. So it's like they're taking the money, they're keeping a lot of it and then they're administering a little bit

out to people in a very inefficient way. So like I was saying, if I was a politician, I'd sell it to the conservatives by saying, hey, I'm saving X amount of hundreds of billions of dollars by shrinking government, which is what you want, cutting out bureaucracy, and then you liberals over here who love giving people bunch of stuff for free, I'm gonna give them cash.

Now they can spend it however they want and they've got all that freedom, and now we've kind of made both people happy. And then what you do is you slowly eliminate the barriers to enter the market, which there are lots of barriers, by the way. Lots of barriers for people who have low skills, maybe have a prison sentence or two, or who don't have a lot of job experience. There's a lot of barriers,

one of which is a minimum wage. You make a minimum wage $15. Anybody who has no skills or that just makes them unemployed. Oh, it makes it worse. Imagine if we didn't have a minimum wage, and then all of a sudden you didn't have, and I know you couldn't do that overnight. You're right. I agree with you. But imagine that. I think you could eliminate in a moment. I can find a job here that's so basic and simple that we don't really pay. But if I could pay someone $4 or $5 an hour and they didn't have any money or any job, why not? If they agree to it and I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it. I agree to it.

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and then they can use that money to spend themselves, which eliminates bureaucracy, gives people freedom to become independent, and then the choice is up to them. The choice then becomes up to them. And then that's what I like. I don't like, you know, here's this money, but here's all these stipulations.

Like literally just give it, if they're gonna fucking just blow it and get drugs or do whatever, this is their life, you know? But if this is something that like, you know, that's where I think all these regulations that we're kind of putting in place with like, you know, here's this amount. This is all you've got to do.

Bottom line is we're trying to control. We're trying to control something we shouldn't even be trying to control. That's the problem. You gotta treat it as charity. Because here's the thing, the reason why it went that way, Justin is because so many people did do that.

They're abusers. Yeah, so many people, if you just gave money, so many people might just go out and do drugs. So many people might go buy themselves a new pair of shoes instead of getting food on the table for their family. Like so many people might just go out and do drugs. So many people might go buy themselves a new pair of shoes instead of getting food on the table for their family. So many people will make irresponsible decisions like that. So then they put regulation in there

and they put these things, these systems in place where, oh, let's give them a box, let's give them a stamp, they can only use it grocery stores. And reality, we have no business even trying to control that anymore. There's a huge charity. Well, we're talking about this charity. And somehow we just put it on the government's hands

to like, all of a sudden create this system, systematize it for us, and we can just give it direct. And it actually takes the power away from the people to be able to solve these problems themselves because they are problems that people want to solve. But when you give it to government to do, number, again, number one, there's tons of corruption, tons of corruption in these systems.

And a lot of people are like, well, they don't, it's no longer my problem. I pay my taxes, no one. Imagine if you just every year you owe 10% to whatever foundations or what every year, that's your taxes. And the type of conversations that would be having like this where it's just like,

oh, you haven't heard of this company that's doing this. And if I could choose charities and stuff. Right. Taxes. Fuck yeah. And imagine how people would teach other people and like, imagine I had, like, let's say I have where the last five years, there's three or four companies

that are charities out there that are doing things that I believe in that are really gonna change to impact the world for good. And I'm kind of committed to that. And then I meet Justin and Justin's like, oh my God, you haven't heard of this charity. You know what they're doing? Like, man, you should put,

and then I have the option to give even more money towards something else I believe in, or maybe give less to something else I was giving money to, and now that, I really believe in humanity that we could figure this out. And I think as letting the, if we saw people destitute in, you know, hurting, you think that like people that actually have, the haves won't like contribute towards that?

All right. Come on, man. Listen to this. Just so you guys for people listening right now, they're like, oh, no, that's not what it's like. Government's great. Listen that. There are a lot of people a lot of people say government's great because we need it because there has been our wife works for a lot of people say that. Let me give you an example. Okay. There are over 30 cities in America where it's illegal to feed the homeless. If you yourself, if you, if me, Adam and Justin, it's true. If me, Adam and Justin are like, you know what? We feel like we want to help people. We see these homeless people over here under the underpass or whatever. You know what guys? This go by a bunch of pizzas,

it's set up a table and let's just feed them. And people used to do this quite a bit. People used to, I've actually contemplating doing this with my kids so that they can see what it's like to give food to people in themselves. You know what I mean, to actually see the person they're giving it to. There are over 30 cities in America

where they've made that illegal. You can't do that. It has to be something that's licensed by the government or approved by the government. And if you as an individual cannot give, you know, set up tables in America. Here in America? In America. That's crazy.

100%. I did not know that. Yep. Over 30 cities. This is true. You could look it up. Cool. I can't help. Any in California? Not in California. Actually, I believe so. I mean, I could look up and see if I can find any.

Wow. And so what's their thought? Is their thought process? Oh, law in California. Chico, Costa Mesa, Hayward, Los Angeles, Malibu, Ocean Beach, Pasadena, Sacramento, San Diego, San Francisco. What? Santa Monica.

Yep. Absolutely. They make it illegal to distribute. Now, what is the logic behind that? Is there a thought process to top process to I don't know There'd be less bum so let's not I don't know but I can guess that it's let me guess I don't know what it is so so this is me speculating but I because I know government Enough to know how full a shit they can be that they probably say something like we need to check the food to see if it's safe

It needs to follow certain nutrient requirements. It's not labeled. Bullshit arguments for the safety of people who are fucking hungry. Here's my police in Apple. Yeah. No, the serious. Here's the thing. They don't want to be out competed for helping people to be the one that help people

understand because then you take their power right. They control it right now. to be out competed for helping people to be the one that help people understand, because then you take their power out of it. They control it right now. So anyway, ridiculous, but no, I think what Trump is doing, I know what he's trying to do, he's trying to appeal to his base by saying, these boxes contain foods that are non-perishable and all made in America.

So now he's like, you know, to the whole. That's being on that. Yeah, the whole nationalism, yeah thing. And I'm saving money. And there's that. And then the liberals would be like, oh my God, that's terrible. What if people don't like the food? And then they're going to come back and be like, well, you know, beggars can't be choosers and go back and forth and hilarious that they're at the time. But I think it's a

terrible, I think he's doing a terrible, there's going to be uproar. Yeah, it's stupid. I really think he's not, this is not a smart way to cut costs of welfare. I don't think it's a terrible I think he's doing a terrible. There's going to be uproar. Yeah, it's stupid I really think he's not this is not a smart Way to cut costs of welfare. I don't think it's going to benefit too many people I think what I what I would say is I think would be you know much more intelligent I couldn't imagine being the president right now with how how much fucked up shit that we have like It would feel like you're almost always robbing Peter to pay Paul and everything that you do. It's crazy. The other thing that everybody is divided on with him is the building the wall thing, right? Like building the wall up and keeping them

out in. But then you could argue, wouldn't it be smarter to let them in and just help make it easier for them to become a citizen? Now we collect tax money from them. Wouldn't that be regulated? Right. Wouldn't that be a better strategy? But then you have to worry about, okay, wait a second. If we have this, if we're California's already a welfare state, and then also we let these people even easier to become a citizen, then that much easier to get on welfare. So now that gets driven up because you've opened up the gates to come in. So what a fucking challenge that is.

I mean, that's, I mean, how do you handle that? How do you deal with that dichotomy, right? So you have to approach it very intelligently and know what your angles are. It's politics, so I can't stand it. That's why I would love it. I can't, this guy can't stand it. That is deep in there, but you don't know.

I hate politicians. I hate politicians, yeah. I can't stand politicians. And Trump's not what you mean. Yeah, yeah, and Trump's not really a classic politician, you know, but he does know how to play politics better than politician so far. He seems to be winning at that game. I just, I hate the whole bullshit game.

I mean, I wish we could be straight. The only thing that excited me even about having Trump was, I wanted to have somebody who I felt like, like, because I feel like our company, our company, I feel like our, our, the United States needs like economic help more than anything else. So somebody who like understands business better than the person.

We've been trying to be world police for like forever. Right. And I feel like we've been going through a lot of politicians that are more into playing the politician game than actually getting shit done or changing things that need to be changed. Where I do feel like Trump is shaking a lot of shit up. I know he's pissing a lot of people off and I don't know if I agree with a lot of things.

But then I also don't know what he's trying to accomplish. What you're talking about right now, Sal, because maybe his ultimate vision is the head in a direction that we're talking about, but he knows also that you can't just all of sudden cut that overnight because people will shit themselves. This is the transition that drives you. Here's what would happen if he said I'm cutting a bunch of bureaucracy, welfare bureaucracy, and giving people the check. Like I said, what they'll do is they'll come back and they'll strike and say he's cutting

10,000 jobs. We're all losing our jobs because Trump doesn't like poor people. That's how they would spin it. That's why I hate the fucking game so much. It's so yeah because oh I lost I used to work for the government for 10 years and I was helping up You know poor people and then trump cut my job and now I'm unemployed and you know Then they'll spin that around and say that he's cutting jobs and right, which is not listen to government jobs not a job It's not I'm sorry. It's just not No, hold on a second.

It is 100%. It does not create wealth. It is 100% taken from taxes and paid for. Some of them I can see being necessary maybe, but it's not a wealth creator versus you go work for a company that's on the private market. It is fully supported by people's voluntary money, and that means that it's created value and wealth for people.

If you cut all the government jobs, I think a lot of them would still exist. Like I think people would still want police and fire, and I think they would still want education. I think they'd make more money. Probably. I think teachers and police, and I think a lot of those people would make more money.

I was done that way. A lot of it people would make more money I saw I saw I saw a post somebody made the other day where they were like how dare you know this CEO or something make this much money and teachers only make this much or you know or this rapper make this much and this Teacher make this much. This is not good. We need to change this. And I replied to it's a friend of mine who, I don't know why we're still friends, because I always hammer on them. And I replied and I'm like, you know, I said, the teacher makes a certain amount because that's a reflection of what the market

is willing to pay, that teacher for that job. And there's a rapper that, you know, that the market is willing to pay a certain amount. And I said, the reason why people don't like that is it's a reflection of us. It's a reflection of ourselves. Like when we look at, right, that we care more about the music is getting to pay a certain amount. And I said, the reason why people don't like that is it's a reflection of us. It's a reflection of ourselves. Like when we look at that, we care more about the music you see.

That's it. If we want, look at bottom line, is you want teachers to make more money? Pay more money. That's it. You want people that you want things to be paid, to be worth more, then go spend more on them, but we don't.

And so it's a reflection of us, and we don't like how ugly we are sometimes. That goes back to that entitlement thing. That's it. That's it. So do you have any more, any more? I don't think we need to talk. I think we're good. how ugly we are sometimes. That's the entitlement thing. That's it. That's it. Do you have any more? I don't think we need to throw it.

I think we need to throw it. I had something I'll say for tomorrow. I mean gasoline on the fire. I think what I'm gonna, just kind of lighten it up again. What I think I'm gonna do to see if it helps my stomach is I think I'm gonna have some of the gold juice because that seems to have positive effects on my gut every time I use it. What do you think it is inside of it that's doing that? Tumoric.

The Tumoric. Yeah, I think it's a Tumoric because Tumoric has got really good beneficial effects on gut health and inflammation in the gut. And I take Tumoric for more GANIFI also because they do sell just straight Tumoric and it's a really good quality one, but then that gold juice has got a lot of turmeric in it, but then, yeah, there's other things in it that are anti-inflammatory, so I'm gonna start taking that.

And it tastes good. And it's really good. Yeah, that's what it's probably the tastiest. Kind of silly, how good it is. No, yeah. Bird. We call single-handedly, Kimerikwa! Today's Quas being brought to you by Kimerikoffee.

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I am a first year medical student, have six hours of lecture every weekday and study four to five hours every night. I find myself living a very sedentary lifestyle and know this could be bad for my long-term health. What do you suggest I do? This is a really good question because it hits home for me right now. Yeah, it's exercise can take in activity and diet can take on different, different purposes

and roles in your life. Sometimes you know you may be working out and eating because you're really pushing performance and you're really maximizing how strong you are, how fast you are, and you're just you're killing it in the gym. Other times they may be tools to help you do the other things that may be a priority for you. Now, in this case, you know, you're a medical student first year. Now, that is a ridiculous workload. I've worked with doctors. I've worked with medical students. I know how much work is involved. I know how much studying is involved, how hard it is. It's just even get a normal, you know, seven or eight hours of sleep, let alone finding time to work out. Yeah, it can get really crazy. And so I think it would be unrealistic to think that you're going to work out for hardcore

performance or aesthetic goals while you're doing this. But because your priority is to be an effective student to get good grades and get far so that you can graduate and do well, you need to use exercise and nutrition as tools to help promote and facilitate that. Because lack of activity and poor health, you got to ask yourself this, which of these two options, which one is going to make me a better and more effective student and learn and be able to retain information, being poor health in totally seditary or better health with some activity.

The easy answer is some activity with better health. You don't have to be crazy with your workouts, but maybe in between studying, you do 10 to 15 minutes of trigger sessions or push-ups or stretching or mobility and Maybe when you eat you consciously make a choice to eat foods that you know are better for you because The you know 30 minutes a day or 25 minutes a day that you devote to doing these things Isn't going to take away from your studying time It's going to add to because now you know, I don't know about you guys But one my health is good my sleep is good take away from your studying time. It's gonna add to, because now, I don't know about you guys,

but my health is good, my sleep is good. I can read and write and absorb information way faster. Like I can read a paper and absorb it. It's like lasting energy. It's just as opposed to like quick bursts, like you try and get caffeine or like processed foods to comfort you through this process. And it gives you like an initial jolt of energy,

but then you crash even harder when that goes through. So yeah, definitely any sort of activity, this is where it's like throughout your day, you just have to figure out a couple different moves that you can go to constantly in between. And this is one of those things that you're just gonna kind of look at it

as charging you up to keep you going. And so I would tend to do more mobility moves throughout the day. Like Sal said, trigger session. So we're getting some blood pumping in there and getting your muscle some activity. So that way, it also helps you to think more sharply, more clearly.

And that's gonna be super important going through that process as a student. I have two bits of advice and I think what the boys gave is phenomenal advice also. Maybe one of us will hit on something that you can actually apply to your life. I think that I have a lot of clients that have been in this situation. I've personally been in a situation where I just don't have that lot of clients that have been in this situation. I personally have been in a situation where I just don't have that kind of time. Things that I've seen that I've been very successful with is finding ways that I can get them to multitask

and still do something that's active. For example, I don't know if everything that you're consuming as far as what you're learning is all having to sit down and read a textbook or if some of that is audio. By being able to listen to something and learn and then walk at the same time, because normally what happens is someone like this,

they literally are only moving like a thousand to 3,000 steps total in an entire day, which is less than you walking consistently for just a half hour. So that's crazy. So if you can take that person and you could literally triple their activity just by getting them to go for a walk

for about an hour to 90 minutes every single day, even if that means you break it up in three 30 minute breaks, or you can walk in multitask and answer phone calls or call people and do stuff or listen audio while you're also walking. I think that will be the biggest bang for your buck because people are blown away by how much that will make a difference.

I'm watching right now, so I'm probably inching up over probably 14% body fat. So I'm in some of the worst shape I've been in the last four years and it's just because I can't move. I've reduced all the way down to one to two meals a day and all it takes is me to be off the diet a little bit Have some some sweets or go to a fucking, you know, baby shower and drink some alcohol and I look I'm like adding a percent a body fat every time that happens and it's just because I'm fucking sedentary

I haven't had a day where I've moved over two thousand steps because I've been in a boot for the last six weeks So I'm watching the the body fat just compile on me and it can get very overwhelming and depressing when that's happening to you. And where it's really depressing for me right now is I'm in a situation where I can't go walk. Like I wish I could at least just go move and walk because that would help me so much more. So that's my first piece of advice is if you can find a way to walk, you know, 60 to 90 minutes every single day, whether you break it up in small, little increments and breaks between your studying all day and all night, or if you can multitask and be able to work on some things or learn while you're also walking,

I think that would be a game changer. The other thing is we just released Maps Hit. Maps Hit is a 15, a 20 and a 25 minute workout that you get as an option in there. And hit is designed to burn the most amount of calories in the shortest amount of time. So if you're looking to get a good calorie burn while you're going through this process,

this is a good alternative for you. Although we recommend that people don't follow a hit program for longer than about six weeks, it is an alternative or something that you can incorporate. So maybe you don't do the hit all the time, but every once in a while you incorporate a hit and then other days you walk. So maybe when you can get your 90 minute walk in for the day, you do it, but the days when you're for sure crunched for time and you only have 15 or 20 minutes, you implement hit.

So that's my piece of advice that I think would work or help out someone in this situation. Yeah, I just think when you, you know, again, cause I've worked with so many people in this situation, it's especially in medicine, they tend to be extremely driven, they tend to be extremely goal oriented. Like we're not talking about lazy individuals. These are their highly intelligent cream of the crop,

bust of their ass, they got there for a reason. And so I've had so much success with having them look at their exercise as another tool to make them more effective at what they're trying to do. And once I'm able to communicate that effectively, then they all all of a sudden are able to make the time because now they view it as a performance enhancer. Yeah, because that's what they are They're very Performance driven like if they knew that it's hard to get that person jumpstarted though because they're so overwhelmed Like that because it's hard for them to see that what you get very constructive it. That's all coming at them from different angles Yeah, no you gave very constructive advice because in the next conversation I'd have with them would be like okay Fuck I want to do it now, what do I do?

And then that's when I would have that conversation of listen to your maybe your lecture while you walk or every for every 30 minutes of, or 45 minutes of studying, do five to 10 minutes of movement, mobility or stretching so that every two, three hours, it's like 20 minutes of movement. And study in the sun, go out and read the book outside.

Like that'll be great for you too. I'm telling you, so when I was doing trigger sessions, regularly, when I would do them three times a day, one side effect I found from a trigger session, which takes about eight minutes, is it was more effective than a cup of coffee. Like sometimes I'd be sitting there and I'd be like, oh my God, I'm so lazy,

I don't wanna do an eight minute trigger session, but this was during the period of time where I'm testing the product out or the program out as before we launched, before I even finished putting maps and a ballock together as a program you could buy online. And I'd be like, oh, I'm really tired, I don't wanna do this, but I was testing the program,

so I made myself get up. And I remember every single time afterwards, I was like, well, I feel way get up. And I remember every single time afterwards, I was like, well, I feel way more energized. And I remember realizing like, this is a good tool that I can use when I'm trying to write or work, which I still do use to this day. Till this day, if I am in a meeting and I find myself losing focus, I'll stand up

and I'll sit in the back and I'll stretch or I'll move. Or if we're all creating a program together and we're all sitting around, sometimes I'll stand up and I'll stretch or I'll move. Or if we're all creating a program together and we're all sitting around, sometimes I'll stand up and I'll stretch or I'll do some movement. And it's not because I'm bored, it's because it literally helps me focus. It's a really powerful performance enhancement tool.

Explain what's happening to us too, because when we are sedentary where we've been sitting for hours, it's crazy how much you become in this sympathetic state where your heart rate starts to go really, really, very sympathetic. Yeah, excuse me, parasympathetic, where your heart rate starts to slow down big time.

You wanna go to sleep? Yeah, and you go from somebody who probably averages like 70 beats all the way down to like 50 something because you're so slow, then you're just getting up and doing literally like you're saying a little three minute to eight minute trigger session. That accelerates that and then it still takes another probably hour before you get back to where you just were.

So you're gonna get all the added benefits of the calorie expenditure and your heart rate being elevated for that even that short little duration for the next hour or two. So learning to interject those little 8, 10, 15 minutes. Here's another thing too that I've learned. So I don't have a whole lot of formal education. I went to basically

high school and a little bit tiny bit of college. Most of it's all learning on my own. And people have asked me, how do you study and retain some of the information that you read? I could never really learn how to study, but I started to figure out what I do. And one of the things that I do that's very effective that I'm now able to verbalize and really only put this together relatively recently is, if I read something and I read something very impactful, I'll stop reading it, I'll do something else where I'm stretching or moving or even if I'm not, even if I'm just sitting there and I'll talk about it, even if I'm talking about to myself.

So something you can do is if you're studying and you're reading something and you're like I need to get up and move, stop what you're reading while you're stretching or doing a mobility, start reciting what you read and start talking about what you read while you're doing the mobility and watch what happens to your retention. For me personally, it's like the most effective note taking I've ever done in my entire life. It's very, very effective at retaining information. Next question is from Eat Pretty Food. Would you say bar yoga Pilates would be the equivalent of a mobility or trigger session?

How many times a week would you throw those types of classes in addition to training days? No, they're not equivalent. So mobility and trigger sessions are targeted for particular goals and adaptations. Bar, yoga, and Pilates are, for example, if I did it, if I walked into a yoga class, and I didn't know it was yoga class, I could tell you it was a yoga class, I could tell you it was a Pilates class,

I could tell you it was a bar class. There's a specific way of doing the movements, and there's a specific, there's specific techniques and a specific structure. It's just structure. that you have to follow in order for it to fall under that umbrella or brand. So when you're doing bar, you're doing bar. When you're doing yoga, you're doing yoga,

when you're doing pilates, you're doing pilates. Now, are you getting some benefits from them? Sure. From burning calories. Can you potentially be increasing mobility? Yes, but it's very specific to those classes so it is not equivalent. Now mobility and trigger sessions should be individualized to you, which makes them superior

in many, many different ways. If I just put together a general mobility class, and I named it, you know, salmobility or whatever, then that would be more like yoga or Pilates, where you come in and you take my class or even if it was Sal's trigger, same thing. But they're excites that you picked that you're dictating what they do that day where triggering and mobility, the way we've designed all the maps programs

is that this is the customizable part. This is the part where you should have prime or prime pro, you should do a test on you, you should see your balance, in balances, you should see your weaknesses, the things that could potentially be causing aches and pains in your body, you should know what those are, you should get to the root cause,

and then your mobility and your trigger sessions should be structured around that, and you just can't do that in any class. No, no, no, and how I look at structured classes like that, you're getting better at the skills to perform movements that they just, you know, have as like standards within their practice and in their class. So it's like, yeah, I can do that move, but you know, what is that doing for my body in

terms of like, you know, if I'm compensating my way to get to this specific move? You know what I think of it's like? It's like diets. It's just like diets. And it's the same thing that we teach people like when you follow Akito genic diet or the paleo diet or the vegan diet It's not the fucking diet that made you feel so good so that I know there's people are listening that are like I take bar And I feel amazing. It's not a fucking bar that made you feel that way there was something in that in that class

That you needed that your body was being neglected and it just happened to graze over it so you feel great the better answers Let's figure that out Let's unpack that. Let's figure out what is it in those classes that does make you feel better and let's start to incorporate that into your lifestyle or your training Regimen the same thing is with dieting people attached themselves to these fucking I hate this what I hate about fitness They get it. They want to put everybody in a box. Oh, I'm Pilates. Oh, I'm young. Oh, bar. Oh, this is better than this It's like no, there's something to take from all of them. There are some good, but they are very generic. And so if you go to one of these classes and you see benefit, don't say it's because of bar or yoga or Pilates, figure out what it is about that specific exercise was right. What is it down? What is it?

And because there's a lot of people that yoga would be terrible for them. Well, and this is it. Or, you know what I mean? And that's, and I know you hear us saying, mobility and trigger sessions are superior, but it's not because mobility and trigger sessions are a class, it's because you can individualize them or you should individualize them to your body. So anything that is,

individualized to your body is gonna be superior to something that is designed around a structure for a class or for the masses. So, well, if you're doing mobility correctly, you're gonna address each individual joints function specifically. Okay? And now, like, so we're talking about broad strokes versus like very small, like specific strokes. And so, So mobility we're going to be able to see, does my neck move the way it should? My shoulders are they supported in range of motion in all these different directions? Are my knees, my hips, my ankles, I'm specifically directing my focus on whatever the discrepancy is.

I'm trying to unpack that and figure that out versus like, I'm just trying to go through this to get a certain feeling after I'm done and everybody's trying to promote specific moves that everybody's doing in the class. This is why everybody I talk to, man. I plead, okay, if you're a listener of Mind Plum, or you have one of our programs or none of our programs,

if you do not have prime, you have to have prime. By the fucking program, there's a 30-day money back guarantee, because that, what we did in there, in my opinion, is the most important piece to everything else that we've done. Because in there comes the assessment, and if there's anything that's going to help you get closer to figuring out what your body specifically needs and building an individual program on even maps, even maps, what like maps read maps, green maps, black, there is definitely a generic piece to it. We just took, we aggregated all the information that we had from the thousands of clients we've trained over the last 15, 20 years and we agreed that this is going to give the biggest bang for the buck for majority of all people. Does that mean that everybody's going to have,

no, it still is not individualized. The closest you can get to individualizing that is by taking like the compass test inside a prime and seeing what's going on with your body and then learning how to address and integrate it into one of the programs. Now, to be clear, does this mean that we think taking these classes is bad?

No, not at all. They have their own benefit. Obviously, you're being active. Classes have a benefit that individual training doesn't have, which is the, it's like community. Yep, you're connecting with other people, which I gotta share though, what you think is the average person, okay, in your experience that goes and takes those classes. The average person takes those classes are drawn to those classes. Why are they drawn to those classes?

Well, I think there's a factor of motivation. I think doing it on your own is statistically speaking, much more difficult to stay consistent. Most people are scared. Right. When you take a class, they tell you what to do, you've got other people around you, and there's benefits to working out what other people does benefits the enjoyment of it. There's benefits to the connections that you make. And those classes, if done properly,

can definitely benefit your health, especially in comparison to being sedentary. But you cannot compare them to individualized type, mobility or trigger sessions or workouts because there is nothing general that will ever be as good for you as something that be as good for you as something that is designed specifically for you. Now, the second part of the question was, how many times a week would you throw those types

of classes in addition to training days? Well, if you're working out two or three days a week individualized, like in the gym, and you want to throw yoga or pilates or bar on top of it, and you're relatively fit, I mean, another two days a week of doing those classes should be absolutely fine. But be careful and manage your intensity. So if you're doing heavy, hard workouts in the gym on your own three days a week,

then you may wanna take a lower intensity yoga class through the times, rather than doing these power yoga classes where you're pushing it even harder on your days off or doing like a spin class, which is another. I think that's an excellent point. I think it's also important to know too, then, like, I am very pro and I've told clients that I think need like a very low intensity type yoga because I'm looking at the meditative benefits for that person. So I could totally see somebody incorporating that once or twice a week in their routine

because they got a high stress job. They're already kicking their ass inside the gym on the routine that I have them doing. So going and doing yoga for me, I don't want it to be intense. I want it to actually be a time they can actually kind of decompress, get into some good stretches, meditate a little bit, get in some good head space. So I see huge benefits to that. But if you're going there for the, the sad part is most of these, these group type classes, they market themselves differently. You know, they market themselves that, you know, elongating your muscles or, you know,

lean in tone and they use terms like this to make people and you see they have images of these women that have their lean and sexy, but they're not muscular and bulky, you know, and so people are drawn to that and then they feel comfortable because it's in a class setting. If you are drawn for those reasons, it's the wrong reasons. Now, if you're going to yoga because it is your time to yourself, and it works for you like that,

and if you didn't have it scheduled, I respect that. Like, I think there's a lot of value to that. But bar and pilates is pretty fucking intense, dude. Oh, dude. Yoga is too. Try, I mean, try, I've taken some pretty tough yoga, even even the Yin ones where you're on the floor and you're just stretching especially if you're tight And if you're a type A person so this maybe not for everybody but for me

Sitting in a quiet room with quiet music sitting in a stretch and like be just being there with my thoughts Was very difficult at times because I just wanted to get up and like be just being there with my thoughts was very difficult at times because I just wanted to get up and like throw something you know what I mean. So and I see lots of benefit of them, but individualized always going to be better than class setting always. Next is from you Weber 18. Would you rather be extremely out of shape aesthetically and really healthy or really good looking and always getting sick poor poor energy, et cetera,

for the rest of your life. Isn't that, you know, it's funny about this question. Oh my God. What's funny about this question is subconsciously people make that decision. They do, and I guarantee you, it's a young person asking this because, yeah. Because this should never even be a question.

Now, would it suck to be, to look terrible, but be really, really healthy? Yeah, there'd be a part of it that sucks because you're like, man, I'm really healthy and yet I look like, I look terrible, but be really, really healthy? Yeah, there'd be a part of it that sucks, because you're like, man, I'm really healthy, and yeah, I look like I'm not, but... That wouldn't be... If anybody's ever had poor health, let me tell you. Yeah, but you get to back up a little bit,

because what you just said, I know you don't agree with that. If you were really healthy, you would look good. This is a hypothetical question, right? Right, you're right. Right, right, let's be honest, if you were really healthy, you would look pretty damn good. Now, I think the better question is like, you know, because I could never be really healthy

and look like what I looked like on stage. So if I was attached to, or if I was still driven by my insecurities that got me into the gym, which is wanting to be this big bulky guy and be muscular, then I could see myself sacrificing my health for a look, 100%. And I think if you do make that decision, I think there's deeper things that are going on

than actually. You know what, that's true because really the question is, would you rather be healthy and look good or look good and be unhealthy? Because there is no healthy and look bad. That kind of doesn't really exist. Now you may not be healthy and look bad. That kind of doesn't really exist. Now you may not look, you not, it may not be healthy and be like, you know, Baywatch model or a bodybuilder, but you're not going to look terrible. You're still going to look pretty good. But you're right. I mean,

people make this trade all the time and I'll tell you what, for anybody who's ever experienced real poor health, you would trade anything for, you would trade all your money for that. Look at all the wealthy people that spend their, half their fortune aren't trying to get their health back. Your health is not worth anything. Your poor health changes how you think and how you view the world. I mean, look, Adam, right now you can't move, right? Your ankles hurt, you can't move.

And you don't even have necessarily poor health, but you've been forced to reduce your activity, how challenging is that on everything? Oh no, it's, I'm battling depression right now. I'm literally, it's that challenging for me because it's debilitating for me. I cannot, I can't overcome it physically. So I have to put in this mental discipline of sure in the past, I could eat these types of foods and still keep myself in incredible shape

I don't even have that option anymore. That's really depressing. That's really tough And it makes me really appreciate just the ability to walk because I've already had countless days since the last six weeks Where I'm like fuck man, it's a beautiful day. I wish I could just go walk my voice I wish I could just go out for a nice hour walk and I know that that would help me so much in so many ways I would get sunshine. I would burn extra calories, I would feel better, and I can't even do that. I would kill to do just to have that back, which I can't wait to just be able to go on

for an hour walk or a hike. You don't realize that until it's taken away from you. Once it's taken away from you, that it gives a hold, so that's the positive side, right? So here I'm saying, battling depression, the way I stay positive is like, I always learn something more about myself and it gives me new perspective on things when you can't.

Like, why just wouldn't a thought, not being able to walk around. I wouldn't have thought that, being forced to sit down. Now I'm just more appreciative for that. I bet you, when I get back into the swing of things, those simple walks and things like that, I'll have a different perspective as I'm walking around.

Totally, I mean, I had my own health issues. I've talked about many times, about 10 years ago maybe. And when that happened to me now, I have a total different appreciation for good health. Or just for, and what I mean by good health is like, yes, there's optimal health, but there's also health where you don't have major health issues.

Like that's a terrible way to live and it's not worth anything. And people who are willing to trade, it's their health for aesthetics, have no, the only reason why they're willing to make that trade is because they don't know what they're trading. They have no fucking idea. They really don't like you know You talk to somebody who has lung cancer after smoking cigarettes for for years and you ask them

Was it worth it and I guarantee you? Probably all of them would be like no man that totally wasn't worth it You talk to somebody who has had you know heart surgery or you know as limited camp play with their grandkids or whatever You know was it worth that life of poor health? I'll never forget this. I'm pretty sure I mentioned these people before, but I'll do it again. I had this lady come in once who hired me

as a personal trainer. She comes in and she's pretty obese. She had about 80 pounds to lose. So she comes in, she wanted an orientation. I sit it down and I start talking to her about her goals. Like you're supposed to do when you're a trainer. And she tells me how her and her husband got married young. I think they were like 19 years old

and they started a trucking business. And their goal was to retire before the age of 50. So they were like, we're gonna bust our ass work as hard as we can, sacrifice everything so that we can make enough money to retire and travel the world. And they did, they retired at the age of, I think it was like 47, like really young,

like they made all this money with this trucking company, busted their asses, retired, had this money, fucking do dies of a heart attack, like months afterwards. And so now here she is with me sitting down, retired on her own, poor health of her own. Now she had some old, her own health problems, like diabetes and a couple of other things.

She's on all the sub-medication. And I'm talking to her about it, and we had this real long, deep conversation. And she goes, you know what? She goes, if I could go back in time, I'd tell myself, none of it was worth it at all. Like I wish I could work until I'm 75, but be healthy rather than doing what we did.

And it's just people don't know what they're trading when they do these things. And unfortunately, in fitness, on the extreme levels, with the body building, with the anabolic hormones, with the fat burners, with the crazy diets, with the girls that starve the fuck out of themselves. Yeah, the messages that that's the healthy standard. And what they don't realize is, number one,

it's all false anyway. So while you're pushing all that shit, and you are trying to accomplish this aesthetic ideal by by hammering your body and harming yourself. Number one, you never achieve whatever happiness you think you're gonna get. I have yet to meet a person who does all these crazy drugs and stuff for their body who's a truly happy person. I haven't found one. They're all there's a lot of issues and problems going on there. Well, maybe they get to that goal and they're on stage and like on top of the world,

but now how do they maintain that? It's not really, if you don't have like other stuff in your life going on, it's you're chasing something that you'll never get. It's flea. Even if you get the look that you want. But then the worst part about that is when your health starts to rebel on you,

which it will at some point, if you push it hard enough, you continue that path long enough, very few people can get away with it. Me and Adam were talking about this yesterday. We were talking about, there's a particular individual that we know who's been taking, you know, Annabalus, high doses since he was in high school, just for a long, ass time. And me and him were talking about, we're like, you know, it's weird that it's true, very few people, there are some people that can get away with the shit for longer than others because I couldn't get away with certain things

for so long, before I got to 30, my body said, fuck you, and I had to make a choice. And I know people who get to 40 who keep doing this. And but at some point your body's gonna give you the finger and then you're gonna realize what you were really trading. It's like you're signing a deal with the devil almost where you ever watch the movies with a guy signs the thing and doesn't realize what he's actually getting. You know there was a movie I watched a long time where this guy, like he missed, he missed

hitting a ball to win the game of high school and his wish was go back in time and hit that and make a home run and it changes his life and then he's a millionaire and he's got this hot model and then he totally like cheats on it. Well, he just misses his old life and his kids and all this other stuff. And you know, you don't know what you're trading. This is not a trade you ever want to make. And the good news is, if you chase health,

you're going to get a good deal of aesthetics. That's the good news. So go for that. Next question is from Joe Pushner. Do you think our world, in particular, the nutrition wellness active world, suffers from a lack of independent thinking? I think it's getting better.

You know, one of the good things about being in fitness professionally for 20 years and longer as a fan of fitness is I can see from a long perspective the changes that are happening because if I look at it right now, if I just get into it the last couple of years, I would say, yeah, it's totally lack of independent thinking, everybody's parroting everybody. But if I compare it to 15 years ago, it's definitely got a lot better. And you know, the dilemma is that as professionals in the field, you have to be able to sell yourself.

You have to be able to sell your brand, you have to be able to sell your ideas. And I feel like it becomes this competitive environment to sway you in a direction of thinking that's very specific to whatever brand or ideals that's very specific to whatever brand or ideals that's portrayed. And so it sort of tug of wars, the consumer all over the place. And this is a really hard kind of thing that we're trying to overcome and create sort of

bridges across the board of like, okay, well, where's the truth within this direction? Where's the truth within this direction? Where's the truth in that direction? And it always starts with, well, not always, but most of the time, a lot of these trains of thoughts and camps emerge because of truth. And there's some value there that everybody can kind of extract and then it just becomes like, well, we have to be different. So we have to pull you in this direction.

Ignore all that other stuff. 15 years ago, if you asked 100 people in fitness, what is a good diet for health, fat loss, muscle building, whatever? The answer you would have gotten is eat four to six meals a day, eat relatively low fat. Chicken breast is really good, asparagus. It would be very general and it would have been everybody would have said

the same shit. No salt. You know, today, if you ask 100 people, you're gonna get a lot of different answers and you're gonna get some crossover answers and the same is true with training. Like, 15, 20 years ago, dudes that lifted like a body builder didn't do anything else.

Now you still see that today, but I'm starting to see a little bit more, carry over to the other thing. So it's moving in a good direction, but it's still boxes. You still see a lot of boxes. I don't know if this will ever change. I think that we lack independent thinking

across the board on all industries. I don't think this is just nutrition wellness. I think, and I don't think it's all bad either, right? So I think part of evolution is that we take from something else that somebody did before us and then we build upon it, right? I mean, that's how we've evolved to where we are today.

And if everybody was independent thinkers, would we ever be able to progress that way? Everybody would be pulling in different directions. So I don't think the lack of independent thinking is that bad of a thing. I mean, I'll be the first to admit that when I first got onto Instagram, I was modeling what I saw people having success with in my space.

It wasn't my voice. It wasn't game-changing. It wasn't independent thinking. But it was me trying to learn how this all worked. And I remember kind of piecing that together. And then I feel like here we are three years later. And I finally have kind of found my voice. And I feel like a lot of what my impump says and talks about may seem like it's very independent thinking, but it's a collaboration of many intelligent people that we've read or spoke to over the course of the last 15, 20 years. Now, we also live in a world today

that copycat is really fast and easy. Like, it's different than what it was 20 years ago. Now, man, you could search somebody across the world that's doing something very similar to you. See what they're doing and copy paste and be doing the same thing. So, you know, we do lack that creativity sometimes. And I do believe we see more of that. But I also think that also opens the doors for people like us because there's so many of these people just copycatting each other. Guys like us go like, oh my god, so many of these people are copying the wrong things. So there's an opportunity for guys like us to come forward and be like, whoa, let us

tell you that it's not just like this, that there's actually more to this. And if these people that were telling you all this information actually trained and helped thousands of people, they would probably be able to tell you the same thing, but they're not because they're just parodying somebody else's bullshit that got past him. So I don't think it's such a bad thing. I think we as people, I think we have to learn to seek out more and new information. I think we need to understand that you always have to keep growing. I think you're either growing or dying, and so if you're not learning new information, you're not seeking more new stuff, I think then you are already starting the process of dying.

But I think some of the best things that you can learn when you train people for a long period of time, for me, this is quite clear. Probably the best lesson that I learned from training and working with people in fitness for, you know, 20 years was just how shocking the variance could be from individual to individual. Like how different people could be

when it came to how they responded to exercise, how they responded to nutrition, and how they respond, and how I had to communicate to them as a trainer like it was It was always it was so shocking that when I first became a trainer. I Denied it like people would tell me things like I don't know so I feel way better When they like this and I'd be like no, you don't you don't know what you're talking about that's not you know That's not good like I know that if you eat veganism,

you're gonna lack these nutrients. So that's not the way to eat. And I know that this is supposed to be healthy for you. And you don't know what you feel. And little by little, I started listening to people and started to kind of break down what they're talking about. And it's, and of course, the science is all supporting it now that there are general things you can say.

You know, there's general things I can say in terms of nutrition and exercising activity, but when you get the individual in front of you, there's a big, I'll tell you what, look, here's a thing, like when you're looking at a chart of people, most people are somewhere in the middle, but then it kind of spreads out, and the further it spreads out from the middle,

the bigger the variances. You know, I had a client who, you know, he came to me, he was an anesthesiologist, very intelligent guy. Actually, one of the most intelligent guys, he's probably listening to right now, give a shout out to Mike. He's one of the most intelligent guys ever trained. And he wanted to build muscle, wanted to get stronger,

and he was a vegetarian. And me and him had this conversation about being a vegetarian. And I said him had this conversation about being a vegetarian. And I said, you know, it'll probably be easier for you to build muscle if you had more meat, this and that and the other. And he says, and I said, tell me your story, like, why are you vegetarian? And he says, oh, he goes, well, I went on this charity trip where I was donating my services. And I remember where exactly it was, and he would do this every year.

And they were in a region where the food, the culture of the region was, where they fed them vegetarian. But it also involved lots of activity. They had to hike miles to get to these villages to perform these procedures to help people. So he was eating a vegan kind of diet while he was doing all this crazy activity and travel.

And he's like, the crazy thing is I was able, and he's, and I wasn't in shape when I did it. And he goes, I had way more stamina, way more strength, and I just felt better. And then I came back to the US, and I started eating meat again, and I felt terrible. And he goes, and I've since done it several times. And I've clearly made that distinction for myself that I feel better. Now he, of course, being an intelligent guy, presenting it to me in that way, knowing that he's

actually tested things and tried them out or whatever. I'm not gonna argue with that. And he told me that and I said, well, shit, obviously, it's working better for you and you're able to get stronger and be more fit as a result of it. So that's when I hear the independent thinking thing, what I'm thinking isn't necessarily a bunch of people creating their own whatever. What I see in fitness that's that I that I'm talking about is I see more people

breaking out of the mold a little bit like I see I'm starting to see people use kettlebells who aren't kettlebell specialists, or I start to see. Well, because we're getting stronger. We're building on previous. We're building on previous. Yeah, we're building on previous knowledge. I mean, I know that I'm intelligent

because I know that I know nothing. And I think that I put that together really early on in my career because there was always an exception to the rule. There was never this solid truth to everything. There was always, every time I thought for sure about something, it never failed me. I met a client that blew the fucking shatter in my paradigm.

And once you had that done enough times, you find like now when anybody tries to tell me anything, I'm like, okay, maybe, you know, maybe, maybe part of that works when you present it that way and it worked for those people that you talk about, but I bet I can find somebody who doesn't. so yeah, and I think too like that's why you don't maybe you don't see it quite As often because it's really fucking hard to sell. It's really hard to sell the idea that like you know They're this may work beautifully for this type of a person or you know coming in

Versus you know somebody else and you individually, it really is up to you to experience it and figure that out. And so like us as coaches and people in the industry, we have to come in with our past experiences, what has work, what hasn't worked, present it, allow the individual to experience it, and then take notes internally, and apply it, what's applicable to use the individual? So it's like, what do you call that? Well, a lot of it, the consumer's lazy, dude. The consumer's the thing, the consumer.

That's the thing, the consumer. And it laid out for them. Katrina was just asking me that at night. She's like, It takes work, dude. She was asking me that at night, she's all, how do you decide who you're going to help? Like at this point, so many people are asking for your help and

information from you, like, how do you know who to give help to and who not to, you know, and I say, I always put it back on that person. I can always tell if they're willing to, they care enough they want to learn. Like they care enough to text me or DM me, like, that's not enough proof to me that this person is really genuinely cares. They're just searching for the easy answer. And I'm not going to give them the easy answer. I never answer it answers straight forward.

Like anybody who knows me who's asked me a question, I never go this or that. I always go, well, it could be this. It could be that. It could be this. Depends. Yeah, you need to probably figure this out and work on this and do this and track that and do that. And I put a bunch of shit back on them.

And if that person takes the time and effort to go put in all that hard work, then I know they care. Most people don't. Right. Most people don't. That's the honest to God truth. Most fucking people do not want they are just looking for some generic answer. And I just refuse to do that. I refuse to give you. You can't. How can you give an answer? You don't know. You don't know. Right. How can if somebody's telling me, Sal, with my diet, I couldn't have I didn't have integrity. I just want to sell things.

Right. You know, if I wanted to just sell things, I'd say, Oh, with my diet. I couldn't have, I didn't have integrity. I just want to sell things. You know, if I wanted to just sell things, I'd say, oh, that's because you need our maps, I agree with you. And you're not doing it right. Oh, you need to use that. You just need this, you know, saying, sell you all of our shit. But that's just not how I work.

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