Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 713: High Carb Diet Benefits, Factors that Affect the Ability to Lose Weight, HIIT Focused Personal Training & MORE

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. So in this episode of Mind Pump, we talk about my church experience. Were they trying to expel the demons out of me? Yeah. Were they successful? As he's sweating like a whore.

Starting point is 00:00:26 Hashtag team Jesus. We talk about the Winter Olympics, Sean White. What a badass. Crush and everything. The best. And there was another French, I think, figure dancer in the, in the, oh, somebody got that blue.

Starting point is 00:00:39 They, little boobie, they will not do so well on health IQ. Oh, because of the dangerous, that's right, how their sports are dangerous. We are sponsored by Health IQ. It is life insurance for fit people. Go to healthiq.com.com. slash mine pump, take their fitness quiz

Starting point is 00:00:56 to see what your prices are. Then we talk about Russia's troll factory. What? Yeah, they're pumping out trolls like crazy. We talk about wiki leaks Flatulence and how it led it led to a flight being grounded literally somebody farted so bad I think I must have just been ripin' them a plastic a plane had to make an emergency landing Then we talk about our L.A. porn house

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Starting point is 00:02:03 The first question was, this particular individual's roommate is having trouble with sleep. Should you just suffocate it with your pillow? That's what we suggest. The next question, what are the health benefits of a high carb diet? Sounds crazy, but it might actually be good for you sometimes. The next question was, does it take longer

Starting point is 00:02:26 for someone to lose weight if they've been overweight for a long period of time versus somebody who just gained weight in the last couple years to lose weight? Like, is there a difference in their bodies and what is the difference, and also is there a difference psychologically, and what is that difference, and how do you tackle that issue? And the final question, this particular trainer works in a gym and their manager, see if he can tell where Sal gets triggered here, right? Their manager recommends that they do 40 minute long

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Starting point is 00:04:21 You guys even asked me what happened? What I did yesterday What did you do brother? I what happened What I did yesterday? You do brother, you know what I did yesterday. No, I don't You do, bro. I told you you told me you didn't terrible memory tell me I do have a terrible memory Where did I go yesterday you made a big old deal about it? I made a big old deal. Yeah Sainting shame on me you didn't burn up and flame shame on me. I did feel I can't believe I didn't bring that up I except that's the thing that you sweat. I know I had so I told the boys I said man I got this I Know I wrote down something I wanted to for sure bring up the minute we got in the room together

Starting point is 00:04:57 And it totally slipped my mind and that is exactly what I wanted to know it was fun. How dare we not we've been having all this talk And I had no idea, but you fuckers are getting messages from people. Yes. We're like, oh, they're so excited. To get me to convert me or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are they doing?

Starting point is 00:05:14 They're just telling you, like, bring this person on the show. Well, after that, you know, hashtag team Jesus thing that we did or said, I did feel like heat while I was in there. I did feel, I did feel things start to heat up. No, I went, so it's my kids Catholic school. It's at a church there. So Jessica wanted to go, so we went,

Starting point is 00:05:36 because it is interesting. It is interesting. She's never been a part of any of these things. So it's fascinating to even go with someone who's never been to, or at least minimally been to church. Tough one to go to for your first one. Catholic?

Starting point is 00:05:49 Yeah. Well, it depends on how you're looking at it. Now, we're going into it, not necessarily looking to worship God or become Catholics or Christians. That's not really the goal. We're going in there just to go in there, see the energy. That's spy, but just to, just to, a I mean because Catholic Church is very and I know I went as a kid, right? Very ritualistic. There's so many different rituals and things you got to do. It's there's a lot of this is why I'm saying It's a tough one to do there. They're there but it can make it easy because it well

Starting point is 00:06:18 I don't know if you're into looking for those if you're someone who's on borderline like you know atheist I think going in there and going to a Catholic church would be a far more challenging. Because you're gonna see the things that make you that you think are very dogmatic or. It depends how you view them. So if I'm going in there like, yeah, this is all, yeah, then yeah,

Starting point is 00:06:36 that's what used to happen. But now that I'm going in and I'm trying to look deeper into the ritual of things like, why do people all put their hands like this at a certain point? Why do people reply this way? Why do just like that time when Paul Check did his thing over the food where it kind of looked like

Starting point is 00:06:53 he prayed and rather than thinking like that stupid, I examined it and realized that if we were all mindful before we ate, whether you pray or not, you're more likely to be healthy, I went in there and I'm looking at things differently and so is she and so is really fascinating. But you know, I forget about Catholic church. Like for sure, the Catholic church is superior

Starting point is 00:07:13 to other churches in one aspect. For sure, I can make this claim. The neat, so much neat. Oh, down, up, down. Stan Neal said that about Catholic church. Stan said Neal. Back for, you, stand, stand, sit, kneel. Back for, you know what's a great discussion to listen to? And I went down the rabbit hole.

Starting point is 00:07:29 I think it was Jordan Peterson originally, and then I started getting it, listening to a lot of Sam Harris stuff. And Sam Harris did an interview with like the number one or the largest church congregation, the pastor of that, right, that church, or the pope, or he wasn't the pope, excuse me. He didn't read the pope.

Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, I know he, it was, but this guy was like well, well known and one of the biggest churches, and you know, those that don't know, Sam Harris is like a profound, like atheist, right? He's super, yeah, and very, very intelligent. Super intelligent, yeah. And yeah, so great debater. But a great, they had a great conversation.

Starting point is 00:08:03 So I tell everybody, like that's's like loves that type of stuff, like in hearing it from two different perspectives and guys articulating it very well and having a very healthy discussion. I like that stuff. I think it's funny that it's taboo that we can't talk about those things. No, that's why I think, yeah,

Starting point is 00:08:21 revisiting this kind of stuff is, that's really like the motive It's like let's why can't we talk about certain things like you can't like avoid all these massive subjects like Let's just like dive into it see what comes out fear of speaking is one of the most dangerous things So what was it like dude? So tell me yeah We went in that we went early we went at 8 a.m So it was a bunch of old like a lot of old people the priest comes out and other priest isn't you know comes around and and he knows who's new Even though it's a big church, so he comes and everybody he comes out to us and he's like oh, thank you

Starting point is 00:08:52 You know, I know it's your first time coming welcome, and so we're like okay Thank you and then other people will kind of like eyeballing us a little bit because we're new and it was cool It was interesting, you know, you're just paying attention. I'm paying attention. I'm gonna get from my peace be with you Did you get? Yeah, there's a lot of You know, peace be with you and also with you. You know, and all that and you know, you're saying the Lord. Tell me about the message. What was the message that they gave that day? We it was lent because lent started. So, you know, you know, how the story goes. Jesus went into the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights and was tempted by Jesus went into the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights and was tempted by Satan and came out of it

Starting point is 00:09:26 and wasn't, didn't succumb to temptation. And so, Lent is supposed to be, you're supposed to give up something for that. So they talked about sacrifice. But it's fascinating because I have a completely different understanding of sacrifice now. Oh, absolutely. Now that's actually being a guy whose pro fasting

Starting point is 00:09:44 every month now. Well, now that I don't be a guy who's pro fasting every month now. Well, now that I don't you, when you think about that and then you hear things like that, don't you find that fascinating? Well, so here's the thing. I've always believed in it, just didn't understand it. In other words, I've always believed in hard work. I've always believed in, you know, not doing what's expedient because you're going to, it's going to benefit you later on.

Starting point is 00:10:02 You know, I've always been that way. I've always been responsible, right? That's what we used to say. I've always been responsible. That's what we used to say. You're responsible. But now I understand, even deeper, and Jordan Peterson talks about that story of Jesus going into the, because he talks about the Bible, not because, not from a Christian standpoint, but rather what do these stories actually mean.

Starting point is 00:10:20 The way he breaks it down is how, really it's about, we all have that good and bad enough, right? The line between good and evil runs in everybody's heart, this is the statement, right? And that we're all capable of doing evil and we're all capable of doing good. And what makes this human is knowing that we can make that choice. And many times what's bad or evil is what's

Starting point is 00:10:41 expedient easy, it's immediate, it's pleasure. And what's good is hard, but it leads to something better later on. And so he talks about that story, how Jesus went out there and was basically, you know, a lot of the stuff he says, right, like man cannot live on bread alone. In other words, what does that mean?

Starting point is 00:10:57 Because that's something that, you know, when Satan comes to Jesus and tells him, why don't you just turn these rocks into bread and eat them? And he says that's that line, which is a very, you know, very famous apparently or widely used thing that Jesus says. Yeah, and what it basically means is food means nothing to you if you have a corrupt soul. And what that made me think about is in my in terms of what we do and in modern life because very rarely are we without food, right?

Starting point is 00:11:25 But the way I applied to us is like, you know, money is worth nothing if you have corrupted yourself and you haven't been true to yourself and you haven't, and I think of it that way. Like, if I lie, cheat, steal, and become the shitty person in order to get rich and get all this money,

Starting point is 00:11:41 I will be miserable. I will be, it will be, not only will I not be worth it, it will be miserable. I will be, it will be, not only will it not be worth an empty existence. It'll be, that's how it, that's what it took for you to get there. It's right. And you see examples of that all time with celebrities and people who seem to have everything and yet they die of drug overdose or they come and suicide, you know, that's the evidence of that, just that incredible wisdom. So whether you're religious or not, it's very, very true.

Starting point is 00:12:03 So that's what they talked about. And for Lent, we Again, not because I'm, you know, I hate having to preface. It's really as a matter of I'm Catholic or not. I'm not, but We did all give something up for 40 days because I do believe it's a it's a good practice to do that. So my kids gave something up I gave something up and Jessica gave something up for Lamp. So I gave up, my phone now stays plugged in in the kitchen. You can't go with me anywhere else in the house. So I no longer am on my phone. Now when you need to work, I go to it. So I wanna talk about when you went in there,

Starting point is 00:12:36 did you feel that you had to have a conversation with yourself about, okay, I'm gonna go in with an open mind or did you catch yourself having tendencies of like seeing something and like feeling like you in with an open mind or did you catch yourself having tendencies of like seeing something and like feeling like you had an eye roll or what did you? No, none of that. I used to.

Starting point is 00:12:51 When I used to go to church because I was, you know, because it was a holiday, I was Easter, I was a baptism or a wedding. I'd sit there and just be like, ah, you know, I hate it. Like, look at these sheep and they're all hypocrites and this is all bullshit ritual. And this is what I said, you know, think I had no respect for it whatsoever.

Starting point is 00:13:07 In fact, I thought it was, I thought there was more bad than good that came from it, which is a common belief a lot of people have because it had so much power for so long. It doesn't have as much power nowadays, but it had, you know, the 20th century was the century of governments killing everybody. But before that, it was religion. And I viewed it that way, but really understanding now that it's lasted this long because it is powerful. And it has done a lot of good for a lot of people. I know people personally who it's done good for.

Starting point is 00:13:38 And I do see how culturally it's extremely important. And scientists will tell you that the concept of an afterlife, the concept of a God, probably happens simultaneously with the concept of a future and a past. So in other words, it was a breaking point for human consciousness. So it's just a part of, it has been a part of recorded history for as long as we can go back.

Starting point is 00:14:03 So I realized just how important and powerful it is, and like anything that's important and powerful, people with bad intentions could get their hands on it and can turn it into something bad. Power corrupts. And people with who are good can use it for good. So I went in there with that all. So that was my experience.

Starting point is 00:14:20 And will we be going back? Probably, I think I'm gonna go back again. We are I am reading and watching and learning more in Death about I'm starting with Christianity and then I'll start learning about the other religions because When I'm starting to realize and it's it's funny that I'm realizing it now because it's obvious when you think about it But if you want to learn about human it now because it's obvious when you think about it. But if you want to learn about human culture and existence and behavior, especially from the past till now, there's almost nothing better than studying texts that have been used by humans for thousands of years. And even

Starting point is 00:14:59 before that, they were borrowed upon texts that were very similar. So I'm going to try learning about all these things because I think you can learn so much about people, you know, like Buddhism and, you know, Islam and all, you know, Judaism, all these different religions, that's very fascinating. So, we'll see, we'll see what happens. What a just think.

Starting point is 00:15:16 Or you guys do you guys guess the same space? By the same space. Yeah, we're both really into learning about all this stuff right now. So, I don't know how long it'll last or what that'll turn into. I don't think I'll become a evangelical Christian, but I never say never.

Starting point is 00:15:31 Who knows what I might see something. You imagine that? Guys, you know what happened yesterday? Sounds good to come in. I would have changed the podcast direction completely. Yeah. Yeah, anyway. So I did that. And then, oh, the other thing I'm not gonna worry. Just kidding. Here the podcast direction completely. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway.

Starting point is 00:15:45 So I did that. And then, oh, the other thing I worked. Not gonna work. Just kidding. Here's the other thing I want to tell you guys. So I come home and Jessica surprised me with an entire Encyclopedia Britannica set from the, from 1951. It's such a dork.

Starting point is 00:16:00 It's such a dork. Hold on a second. Hold on a second. Is it the same one you used like No, no the one I had was from 80 the one I used to read was 1986 so this was 1951 and Am I gonna read these probably not maybe I'll look into them because I want to see how much information's changed But they're so decorative like we have them about we have them in a book shows cool having those I had a set

Starting point is 00:16:24 Yeah, then I just like the way they look I'm probably not gonna look in them right we have them about they have them in a book shows and cool having those I had a set yeah Then I just like the way they look. I'm probably not even looking them right we have the internet But they look so cool. Yeah, and she's like nostalgia bro. I told her I'm like these are collectors I'm like what I thought they were worth a lot of money. She got the whole set for 40 bucks She's like on Craigslist you could buy so you added also Justin. Mm-hmm. So did you have world book and child craft? So that's what when this guy always talks about reading Encyclopedias when he's little. That's what he's talking about. I'm like, oh shit, I didn't know that's what you were talking about all these time. What do you think of that too?

Starting point is 00:16:50 Well, I just thought you meant you opened up the Encyclopedia and you started reading it. Where the childcraft style of it was different. It was written in like stories to kids. Well, that's what I did when I was little and then as I got older. Yeah, when I was like 1314. Yeah, when I was 1314, I was reading Encyclopedia Britannica with a really thin paper. Yeah, when I was like 1314. Yeah, when I was 1314, I was reading at Cyclopedia Britannica with a really thin paper. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:17:08 I was really into it because yeah, you get all the definitions and you get like pictures and everything else that kind of helped to describe the whole thing. So that really, it helps me learn if I have visual alongside it. No, the first ones I read were my mom bought me. What do you think has been replaced now?

Starting point is 00:17:22 Like what do you guys do for your kids? Like because that was something that was stapled in our house. It's YouTube now. Yeah, it's YouTube now. So, so what I started reading was Snoopies in Cyclopedia, which was a small one when I was a little kid, and then I went to what you're talking about

Starting point is 00:17:35 where it's more for kids. Yeah. And then I started reading in Cyclopedia Britannica and I read page to page, I would go or cover to cover. I would go through and if I saw a subject I was interested in, I would read about it. But no, my kids will get on YouTube sometimes and they'll go on the TED Talks. They have TED for kids and they'll just, I mean, literally sit there for two or or three hours watching these 15 to 30 minute videos on do all the time. I'm so interested in the future of TED Talks.

Starting point is 00:18:06 Like I just feel like they're building this library of freaking amazing fucking information that people are. Oh, dude, it's kidding. I mean, almost every time I search something now, it's one of the top three. Well, I just like that they get to the meat of it. And it's not a whole lot of fluff.

Starting point is 00:18:24 You know, like they're condensed to the short amount of time. like that they get to the meat of it. And it's not a whole lot of fluff. They're condensed to this short amount of time, so they really have to prepare ahead of time about what information they're gonna convey. And it's great, man, because as a consumer, it's like, okay, you get a great understanding of short amount of time. Dude, it's funny because we had that a few episodes ago

Starting point is 00:18:41 where we talked about school voucher system, and there's a couple teachers in our forum and they were like a little upset, like, no, it's terrible. And, you know, I know the school system and you know, we were debating back and forth. It was a good discussion, actually, really appreciated it.

Starting point is 00:18:52 If you're listening right now, I really appreciate it. If you disagree and we have a good discussion, I like that. But a point that I made, which I think is for sure, is it, I don't think, I think the way we do education now, publicly funded, whatever, doesn't even fucking matter. You can try doing whatever you want.

Starting point is 00:19:11 The way information is being shared now, it's all gonna be all accessible. 20 years from now, it ain't gonna look like that at all. How can you not see, well, I could see if you're in it, how you don't see that. I could see if you can control it. You can't control it now. Like, right now, right now, if I wanted to,

Starting point is 00:19:30 literally I could access lectures from Harvard, Stanford, wherever I could watch shows or stuff on surgery, anatomy, on medicine. If I really had the motivation and the passion for it, I could learn everything, a private university student would learn. I could learn how to replace your transmission and your van, you know, like yourself, just by watching, it's crazy. I have everything. And as the cost of school keeps going up and gets crazy on crazier, this is just going to out compete it because it's free

Starting point is 00:20:05 And it's right there. And you see we just talked about What's his face Warren Buffett's company and and who was it? Was it Apple or Google or part of to start their university? It's already happening. It's it's an effort It's going that direction. I thought we were just kind of exploring the idea of the voucher where I was Yeah, that's what it was, but even that like like, at that point, that wouldn't even matter. No, because it was so cheap and so free. That it's not even, that all flipping on, it's had no matter what.

Starting point is 00:20:30 So you guys ready for some, for the daily pump? Oh, let's get in the daily pump! Daily pump! All right, Justin, did you say you had some news first or you want me to go first? Yeah, because I got some, I do have some. Basically, what I found was this guy in India, he had, came up with this brilliant idea, this farmer,

Starting point is 00:20:52 to put a massive poster of a porn star in his field to keep his crops safe. Why? Why am I trying to, yeah, like, so back up backup hold on Okay, so there's mysticism in India right there's like They they have a lot of superstitions and things like you don't want to go in your nude photo like that Well, it's more like negative eyes like it so he thought that like by bringing like this porn star like this put it bring a lot of positive

Starting point is 00:21:22 You know energy to his crops and so apparently it's worked in his yeah the crops the cucumbers are massive yeah got it you know the hell long been holding that joke I know I sent you up so I'm waiting for you with a that is all I'm not funny that one is life things I don't know like everybody's walking by and it's it's this girl is porn star with a bikini, like a red bikini on and everything.

Starting point is 00:21:48 It's just like, you know, people just walk by and like look at it all funny. I feel like he lied to his wife. This is in India. Yeah, this is India. In India? He lied to his wife totally. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:21:59 His wife's like, you know, it's like why are you always taking off? She's like, you're the night out and then do it. Yeah, she feels. She's like, good deep, you're jerking off all the time. No, it's like why are you always taking off? She's like the night out into the field. She's like good deep You're jerking off all the time. No, it's for the freaking listen. I'm warding off the demons. Okay. Yeah It's for the rock crops keep making the roti bread. I'll be right back. I have to go for a sprowler growing He's I have to go for life. Oh shit. There's a picture right there. There you go. That's awesome

Starting point is 00:22:21 Well, hey, I can't I can't't, I can't, you can't. I can't. Exactly. Like the logic behind it. I sound. Vellate vegetation growing. Uh, moment. Oh, that's great. Yeah. I thought that was amazing news. So are you guys watching the Olympics at all? No. I watched the All Star game that was on last night. I don't know. My son, oh, this is great. My son is so

Starting point is 00:22:40 snowboarding now because of the Olympics. Really? Oh, Sean White. Yeah, he wants to be Sean White. So, Sean White, and again, is he destroying it? He got a gold, yeah. Is he like one of the greatest Olympians of all time or is it just for that? He's up there. He's got to be up there with gold medals

Starting point is 00:22:54 because I mean, shit, he got into it when he was like, he was at 17, maybe. Because I know what's his name is, Michael Phelps won more gold medals than anybody. He's ridiculous, dude. Right? But I wonder where Sean White is gonna break. Cause I know Sean White has destroyed,

Starting point is 00:23:07 he might be up there actually. Yeah. I mean, Sean White's been getting him for a hot minute, dude. No, interesting. If he doesn't get one, it's like, what? Now he started his little skateboarder, remember? He was right out, he was right around the Tony Hawk generation and he's been, he's been, and then he transitioned

Starting point is 00:23:22 into Snowboarding afterwards. I wonder, you know what, this makes me think now, when you're doing those kind of extreme, Doug, do those extreme events, when you're doing your life insurance, because we're sponsored by Health IQ, made me think of this, life insurance is more expensive. Oh, bro, if you were a pro snowboarder or a pro like skateboarder, 100%, you, Oh, I had somebody DM me.

Starting point is 00:23:45 Remember the cigarette thing I said the other day? So someone DM me and actually ran what it was. Like if you were someone who was smoking and what it was double the amount of money. Of course, right? Yeah, you participate in high risk activity. They may rate your policy or increase your rates. Wow, I have a lot of ethics.

Starting point is 00:24:03 But I know snowboarding is typically not one of the questions. You know, it's like, do you hang glide? Do you pair your feet? So the specific ones. There, yeah, there's specific ones. So technically, on the application, if you're a professional snowboarder, you could answer no to the high-risk question. Well, you know, typically, well, health IQ, they've got to go to the show.

Starting point is 00:24:21 Look at that. Sean White, you can get health IQ. They're for fit people, life insurance for fit people. So the Olympics, let's get back to that. Right. So French ice dancer, Gabriella Papadakis. She sounds like she sounds like she's Greek. Papadakis. Yeah. Papadakis. That's Greek. That's not for any way. She's French. And she had a nightmare wardrobe malfunction during her routine, like on live TV, while she's dancing with her partner,

Starting point is 00:24:47 her dance figure skating outfit or whatever, the class broke and she was booby out. Oh, Janet Jackson, but it's live TV, because it's live, right? And she had to finish the dance, so she's still doing this. What a champion. Yeah, cold nipple and everything, because it's live, right? And she had to finish the dance. So she's still doing this. What a champion.

Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah, cold nipple and everything, because it's on the ice. So, so probably everybody stood up in roaring applause. I'm really mad at see this event because I've been interesting. I wonder how she did. Interesting. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:25:19 God, you know, talk about the focus you have to have when you're at that level. Yeah. You know what I mean? Every four years, I always feel bad because when they do, one of those like crazy, huge triple axle things and then they eat shit and then they got to get up and do the entire, especially if they do early and they have to finish their entire routine.

Starting point is 00:25:36 You're just like, what would you do? What would you do if you're not going to get any more? So here's the thing, this is a little sexism, right? Let's talk about this for a second. Totally, would they have done the same thing if the guys did came out I mean I got a commercial Like boob boob comes out they're like Sponsored by you clanks. I don't know if you're allowed to compare boob to dick though

Starting point is 00:25:58 I think you can only you can only make the boob vagina Yeah, yeah, yeah, like boob vagina I mean vagina penis connection, which you can't make the- Which one's worse? Yeah. Which one's worse? Vagina, wardrobe malfunction or dick wardrobe malfunction? Dick, because there's something hanging out. That's right.

Starting point is 00:26:14 Especially if you flop it. The vagina is pretty. Especially if you're exactly on the ice and you're spinning. You're spinning. Ah! It's all stretching out. You're doing your triple axel and you get the whoosh. Yeah. You're hitting your partner. Helicopter get the mousse. You're hitting your partner.

Starting point is 00:26:25 Helicopter. Anyway, so that happened there would be bad. So there's something to watch the limpa. When are we gonna support the fun? You're selling it. I don't know how to say it. Wait a minute, it's a boring. Do you know, do you...

Starting point is 00:26:36 Do the skeleton, have you guys seen the skeleton? No, what's that? It's like the, it's like... It's like, the lusion, like the bob sled, but it's like, it's a run man. You basically have this tiny ass little sled that you land. It's like, it's like, Lusion, like the Bob sled, but it's like, it's a run man. You basically have this tiny ass little sled that you lay on. And you, and you, not only, you don't lay backwards,

Starting point is 00:26:50 you're like, face first. It looks like a fucking neck injury. And you go, hell of a fast. I, I literally, like, if you make one wrong decision, you're dead. You're dead. Why do they call it the skeleton? I probably some have to do that.

Starting point is 00:27:03 Oh my God. What are the, okay, I would love to look and see how many people that are in the Olympics that actually go on to do big things or how many of them end up broke and no one ever heard who they were. Well, so like, what are the numbers on that? I feel like it's, there's not a lot.

Starting point is 00:27:18 If you win a gold, right, yeah. If you win gold in a popular event, then your odds of doing really, like if you're gold medalist, and you're like, look like a model. Yeah, well, yeah. There's some of those. But if you're gold in like,

Starting point is 00:27:29 so too, if you're gold in a sport that's also professional, very good, because you got a lot of commercial appeal, if you're gold in a popular sport, like figure skating. So if you're gold medalist in figure skating, that's a popular sport. Yeah, well, for Winter Olympics,

Starting point is 00:27:42 it's one of the most popular. Oh, I mean, oh, so you can, I'm thinking popular in general, like around your well, so what's popular about it is when you're a figure skater gold medalist, you tend to be one of the athletes that is that everybody, you know, that's displayed for the winter Olympics. And then you do these tours, you see these like, you know, limpians on the ice or whatever, and you do lots of interviews. And because people really like that, Like if you're first, you know, gold medalist in, you know, I don't know, what's an obscure winter sport?

Starting point is 00:28:09 Curling. Curling, well, you'll make money in Canada if you're a gold medalist. I think that's the second most popular sport in Canada. If I'm not mistaken. Is it really? Yeah, curling is really popular. Just threw that out of nowhere.

Starting point is 00:28:19 Yeah, I know. That's right. I thought that was a great curve off of you. But you know what's the one where they ski, they shoot, and they, uh, that's like a cross country ski, the ski shooting. Yes.

Starting point is 00:28:30 I saw my, I got the gold medal in ski shooting. I, so I think if it's not a popular sport, like, if you're a gold medalist and like, I don't know, tech wonder or something, you know, in the summer Olympics, you're not gonna be on national TV or anything like that. But even then, like, okay, so what? National TV that gives you all this exposure and you go on tour and so you sell out some

Starting point is 00:28:49 tickets and so you make a million dollars your next year, but then what? You can become one of the most sought after coaches. You could become an estimate. I think that's the move. You can get a... You can get sponsored. You can get sponsored by their own gym or whatever. Yeah, you can get sponsored by supplement companies or...

Starting point is 00:29:03 You know what? Do you even have an idea with them? No, but I was at like half of them. But think of some of them. Think of some of the highest paid ones, like Michael Phelps made a shit ton of money. Well, okay, that's a very cute, yeah. Mary Lou Retten made a shit ton of money, remember her?

Starting point is 00:29:16 She was on the cover of Weedies and all that stuff. Yeah. She wasn't the one that cut off the subway, right? For the marathon race. Remember that one? No. You remember that happened? Do you remember that was like the subway, right? For the marathon race? Remember that one? No. You remember that happened? Do you remember that was like in the...

Starting point is 00:29:26 Flock when was that? I want to say that was in the 80s or was it, no, it might have been before the 80s even. That's one of those old ESPN classics where the marathon runner that set the world record, like they found out like years later. Oh, it took the subway? Yeah, she took the subway.

Starting point is 00:29:42 Oh my. You didn't know that's too late. No, it's hilarious. Oh yeah, I gotta look it up now. I'm sure one of our four she took this away. Oh my. You didn't know that's stupid. No, it's hilarious. Oh yeah, I gotta look it up now. I'm sure one of our four members will know that's into sports. I've heard of people doing that. Yeah, they hide and then they just like

Starting point is 00:29:54 get through the crowd. Hot ton, they'll hop on the, if you could be a gold medalist in any event in the Olympics, what would it be? Like winner or summer? Doesn't matter. Any event, like what would you want to be gold medal in? Basketball there.

Starting point is 00:30:07 Basketball there. I don't want to be that one. Well, now this doesn't mean you're going to be in the NBA and all that. So forget all that. Just imagine you just get a medal. I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll

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Starting point is 00:30:30 That is not what I was saying You laughed before I was said it cuz you do exactly that's gonna say Let me get a hold up. I know you broke. Let me put it this way I bet the look at what instrument did you think about playing when you were a kid? The only reason why you picked that. The chicks dig. Yeah, this is the coolest one. She's gonna do it with a dumb idea, right? Bill Clinton got some.

Starting point is 00:30:53 You got to think I thought it was such a good idea to back there when you were kids. How many things did you think were such a good idea? That was the dumbest thing I ever did. Just always playing careless whisper. All of the plays. I remember you want to talk about bad ideas. It's the dumbest thing I have to do. Just always playing careless whisper. All over the place. Pre-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do- to open the door for your girl, but you see if she unlocks the door for you. Or not. And I tried doing that, but I forgot my car, you know, by this point, cars are automatic, so all the locks open, so I walked around. I was like, oh yeah, that was stupid.

Starting point is 00:31:32 It didn't work out. That's what I did, that was done. More news, so you guys heard about all the news about the investigation into Russia, meddling in our election. Remember that? You guys hear about that? That's never died.

Starting point is 00:31:46 Well, they were trying to say there was collusion between Trump and the Russians and the... Right, right, right. And which is so... Big conspiracy. Fucking stupid because, like, Russia, right? Old Russia, it's our Cold War enemies, and so it just sounds so scary.

Starting point is 00:32:01 Well, what they found actually was they did find that Russia tried to fuck with the election, but it wasn't in support of anybody. They don't give a fuck who wins. They had a bunch of trolls. They had 13 of them who got indicted. 13 trolls who got indicted for posting articles and stuff on social media, trying to make Americans lose their trust or whatever in the process, the electoral process, which hate to break this to you, it's already going away. We don't need Russia to, whatever.

Starting point is 00:32:36 How funny is that though? So there's a troll factory apparently in Russia, and that's what they do, they hire and say, Peter, they hire these kids, booming business. And they pay them a lot of money and their goal is to go on social media and stir up some shit. Wow.

Starting point is 00:32:49 But you know what though? Is this surprising? No. It's not surprising. You don't think we do the same shit? Of course we do the same thing. I guarantee you we have a whole room of kids doing that shit for every other country.

Starting point is 00:32:59 Is Julian the slonge still over there? And Julian? Yeah, Julian? Julian, Julian. He's, no, he's where is he? I forgot where he's at. No, he's not in Russia anymore. Okay.

Starting point is 00:33:08 Yeah, no. I just, I remember that they had that. They were trying to tie him into the whole, you know, with the WikiLeaks and everything else going on with the Electrons. No, no, no, actually what's funny about that, so WikiLeaks, which is crazy, right? They, they, they, they leak out some crazy hacked information. They are nonpartisan. I mean they were doing stuff with Bush They were revealing a shit ton of stuff with Bush and then Obama and then they were doing it with the Democratic National Convention How Hillary's campaign undermined Bernie Sanders and all this other stuff and all those email leaks right?

Starting point is 00:33:41 Didn't some guy get waxed? Well nobody knows how that happened. We don't even speculate. Yeah, sorry. Anyway, so I'm scared, dude, of these people. So, okay. So what they, what they, what they were trying to say is somebody was like, why aren't you releasing stuff on Trump and he tweeted out, this is Juliana Saj,

Starting point is 00:33:59 tweeted out, I would, if I could find anything on him, trust me, I've tried, there's nothing. What? Crazy, right? So he's like, I can't find anything on Trump that we can leak or whatever. So believe that or not. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:34:14 Either he's telling the truth, or he's helping him. I don't trust anybody. I know. He's got dirt on him. Fuck it, you're all over with me. Crazy. All right, one more piece of news for the phone. Damn, you always come with a butt. What are you reading right now? I just, I just got dirt on it. Fuck it's all over the wheel. Crazy. All right, one more piece of news for you.

Starting point is 00:34:25 Damn, you always come with a butt. What are you reading right now? I just don't forget, shit, I'll check this out. Now, this is an important piece of news. This might take a long time to discuss. So this happened recently, a flight from Dubai to Amsterdam, this is recent, had to make an emergency landing in Vienna after a fight broke out. So a big fight on the plane, right? Everybody's getting pissed off and thrown fists because one of the passengers would not stop farting.

Starting point is 00:34:55 Apparently, apparently, February 11th, two men sitting next to a very flatulent man. He got really pissed off. Apparently this guy just was farting terribly. Wow. That's a pretty long flight, right? Dubai to Amsterdam? Like the whole time. I might, yeah, I might whoop someone's ass. Yeah, it is.

Starting point is 00:35:17 And they were like, tell us. What's your limit? Five. They kept telling us. He just sounds like a motorbike. You know, the whole time is burr. Apparently they were telling them, like, stop fucking fart like a motorbike, you know, the whole time is burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp. Apparently they were telling him, like, stop fucking farting

Starting point is 00:35:27 and the dude just like, you know, he didn't care. And so they got in a fight, dude, on the plane. Because you imagine everybody on the plane that was rooting for the guy. I'm getting pissed too. The food rooting for the guy was punching him, right? For sure. Well, I mean, here's the thing, like,

Starting point is 00:35:41 you get your ass kicked for farting. It's sucking back in. Is that embarrassing or is that cool? Like, if someone's like, do you, why, why'd you get jumped? You're like in is that embarrassing or is that cool like someone's like, dude? Why'd you get jumped you black? I was farting well you know it dropping bomb. You know if it got that serious that it was probably where It's probably sick right well No, I would guess that it was some guy probably said something and then it's some some other guy who's going to be have a chip on a shoulder

Starting point is 00:36:00 And be like oh now I'm an intentionally keep farting and then he probably made it Yeah, yeah, he probably made a mission to fart as much as he could. Probably, you know what I'm saying? Because that's how he used the blankets. Dude, but like, how can you keep farting? Like, he must have had that technique where he could suck it in, you know what I mean? And then like blast the back out. There's a technique.

Starting point is 00:36:18 There is, dude. Swarting up price. I haven't thrown my brother in the bus, but he had a master, dude. He can fart whenever he can suck it in. and it makes almost as much noise as it does. Hold on a second. Yeah, I know people can do this. He can draw in air to his butt hole. And this was the most funny thing.

Starting point is 00:36:35 He would kill me if he heard this, but he would use those powers. And we had like a little trumpet that was on the table, you know, in the living room, and it was just for decoration, and he would grab it every now and then suck it, and he'd blast it out, we would die laughing, right? And then this neighbor, in the trumpet, he'd fart in the trumpet and make noise.

Starting point is 00:36:59 Did you know how much like, when do you have to have the key at the velocity? Yeah, you know what I mean? That's telling me. It was very talented. It could go somewhere with you. The worst thing is one of my neighbors, like at the time the kid came over and just said, oh look, and grabs it, starts like blowing on it.

Starting point is 00:37:16 And we were dying, you know, because I'm like, you don't know where that's been. You got her piece. Yeah, you got the stink lid. Yeah. That's crazy. So you can actually suck in air. God, if I have that, you could find that on YouTube.

Starting point is 00:37:26 I'm sure somebody could do it. Can I just say something? As a grown man hearing that, I'm like, that's cool. Yeah. As a kid, I would have been so jealous. Like how awesome, do you think that would have been if you could have farted on demand as a young boy? So I feel like that's this case right here.

Starting point is 00:37:42 I feel like that's it. Somebody who has those powers powers has somebody who has it And I've known people that have that same skill set to not to that level. They can blow Trump it blow to Trump It's another level. I was like I'm still impressed to this day. That's impressive I actually I kind of want to see it to be honest with you. I'm not gonna lie Well, it's like film it in the corner. Killing police for our audience. Can we please give them a random phone call sometime

Starting point is 00:38:11 and ask and put them on live air and just spend it? Don't tell them. Yeah, don't tell them. Just call them up. Hey, bro, I'm just talking to the guys. They really want to see you fart in a trumpet. Can you do that? I'll challenge them.

Starting point is 00:38:20 I'm like, they'll do it. I'm like, you can't do it for them. We should offer them some money. I don't know. We should. I'd pay for that. I'd pay YouTube channel. I'd pay for that. Yeah, I'd pay for that. I'd pay for that.

Starting point is 00:38:26 We got people trying to work for us. But don't you bit of embarrassment, but you know, you get paid. Don't you think, don't you think that's what happened here though? It's probably some asshole like that who has this ability. Literally. Yeah. Some asshole has this ability. I think that's all it's all assholes.

Starting point is 00:38:40 Well, I mean, to be honest, okay, I remember when I used to eat, you know, like a bodybuilder, because I thought that was the right way to eat. Oh, how gassy. Well, it wasn't just gassy. Like, my farts were, oh, they clear the room. They were terrible. They were like so bad that I'm pretty sure I played the role.

Starting point is 00:38:58 Where were we with Craig when Craig fell? Oh my god. Oh, I threw my boy in the bus. Oh, we were at the suite. We were so bad. We're the good it cleared the sweet out He tried to warn us like he did he's okay I'm not approaching today. Doesn't we're watching the the WWE. Yeah, that's what that was Yeah, I forgot crager came with this Yeah, you know, we're clear the whole box. Yeah, your farts are not supposed to smell that

Starting point is 00:39:26 I thought that was normal. We knew it was protein related to yeah, cuz you know, you just don't get them otherwise yours are getting better. Yeah Come on man, there's some I mean you got some some yes, I'm room to go It's not as bad. I'm talking's not a bad yeah I don't have any he's turning into the phantom shitter bro oh that's me yeah we're a I had to, bro. We didn't have a plunger. What do you want from me? I did come back in the room with this. So we had, so, oh, did we tell our audience what happened?

Starting point is 00:40:12 We did, didn't we? Oh, no, that we got the weird porn house. Yeah, no. We didn't share. Oh, wait, and say any of that stuff. I can't believe we didn't even mention that. Well, so tell your story first, or maybe we'll tell the house story. Well, yeah, you got to tell the house story.

Starting point is 00:40:22 So we get, we get to to LA, we have an Airbnb and it was a last minute house because it was what all star weekend. And they're like, well, normally you don't rent it out for people to sleep here because it's used just for filming. So we're like, huh? So we get there and it's weird. Like there's like cables coming out of the wall.

Starting point is 00:40:38 Master bedroom had a bed in the room. Remember this was like a $5 million house. $5 million house, yeah. The bed had no sheets or anything on it. Upstairs was locked, but the lights were on, so something was up there. And there was weed on the counter, like ground up weed on the counter.

Starting point is 00:40:52 I like a little bit. There's like a decent amount of weed. I feel like it was a porn that they filmed there. And that we had to leave afterwards. So then we got a hotel room, and then this is when this happened. Yeah, so then we got three hotel rooms, right? So we're all bunk bumped up on each one.

Starting point is 00:41:06 So Justin and I are together. And I don't remember where did we go that day, Justin? Oh, that's when we went different ways, right? Yeah. We went different ways. And I come back in the room like in the night. Oh, I crushed it. And the toilet is just painted, bro.

Starting point is 00:41:19 Yeah. Just lost your painted. And you've just seen the size of it you've been you it all made Just did what the fuck happened to the bathroom right he goes oh dude. He said I had a big scare It wouldn't go down That's what he said well yeah, you know it looks like you had to break it up dude used to go Yeah, I've had some of this yet to put your hand in there This is fleshy a couple times

Starting point is 00:41:52 You get to add a little use the co-hanger trip I told you to sell about so yeah Sometimes you know like if I'm flying I'm traveling you know, I'm holding on to it And then it all comes out at once Doug you know what I'm so hot for me because you guys usually room together and then I usually room with Doug and Yes, because we are in the same Arctic Gold or a little baby no Doug never poops while we're somewhere he gets back up So I'm the one that dominates the toilet in there. So I apologize

Starting point is 00:42:22 You always dominate the toilet. Where did we go this time you shit everywhere can we talk about Doug shit Nick Christina? Cycus So this is the other part Casino more epic so we get okay, so Christina is the run interview number six right where and we roll up to If we've already been here before so sound. I've already been to our place, we get there and she's got a, just a small apartment. Yeah, studio. So, we're sitting in the, in the, you know, living room, dining room type area, podcasting and dugs there too. And when we first got, came in the door, sal made a joke because she was, she listens to all the episodes, I'm sure she's gonna hear this too. This is gonna be great. So, she's gonna know.

Starting point is 00:43:06 So, Sal made a joke about wanting to use her bathroom real quick, like, you know, because she made the comment about shitting right away. Like she goes, make sure you go to the bathroom before you get here to have a deal. So then, Sal goes, oh, I gotta take a shit real quick and she's like, nah, in the, it was a joke, right? She's like, nah.

Starting point is 00:43:20 So, when we sit down, that was like when we first walk in. We sit down, we're podcasting. Well, Doug disappears like for 20, 30 minutes into the podcast, no. So while we sit down, that was like when we first walk in, we sit down and we're podcasting, well, Doug disappears like for 20, 30 minutes into the podcast, dude. And I actually, we really didn't even notice anything because we were going in the podcast. And we leave and Doug's like, I don't know, I fucking just shit.

Starting point is 00:43:37 He's like, I plucked the toilet in there. He's like, yeah, stick a big shit in there. He plucked the toilet and he's in there working it out. Sorry, Christina. But he, he plunged it out. He plugged the toilet. He's in there working it. Sorry Christina Fixed it. I fixed it he plunged it out. Yeah, he he plunged it out. Well he plugged it we've all been there He plunged it out. He had to pull it out because I wouldn't go down And he but he's stuffed it down the shower a drain so everything's okay now true Okay, that Christina don't worry. He pushed it down the drain. You're fine. Oh Died though, and she would Doug said that. Oh, that's hilarious

Starting point is 00:44:06 Because we're joking. It's the worst place the poop is a girls house. Everybody knows that. Yeah, you can't I don't like pooping at girls That's that's just terrible. I try and I try and time all my poops at my own house. Yeah, that's it's like I don't like doing We're gone. Well hotel rooms are okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we stand I dropped to do so red Culture cast, didn't you? No, you sure? No, I promise I'll just drop that's a that's a that's our mission Our mission is to just that's how we mark our territory. Yeah, you know, well I'm sorry about our space. I'm very careful

Starting point is 00:44:40 We've had some bad experiences in the past where we did when Justin I went used to go down on the pizza right we haven't done that a lot I'm actually very proud of being eaten very proud of our traveling I'm a closer diet and we have we've gotten to the point where we we we either fast right or we lots of vegetables and proteins yeah no it's we've been we've been really solid when we travel and you know it's been I can tell a big difference to like my stomach feels a million times better. And you're less tired when you get back.

Starting point is 00:45:07 Right, and I do notice the interviews we tend to do better too. So that's the main thing that performance wise, yeah, that's why I'm on board. Thank you. We're gonna perform well. You gotta be in good health. So I think if we do the Brussels sprouts pretty

Starting point is 00:45:21 religiously, eggs and bacon and then green juice, those three things is what we serve. Organified green juice has become a travel staple. Well, it's nice to have with you. Well, they make the ones too. That's what I'm so glad they serve. The single served, yeah, I keep one at my house and then I keep a handful of those, you know, single served taro ones.

Starting point is 00:45:40 Those fit my bag perfectly. It's, you know what, I've been using it long enough now. The green juice, if I I'm gonna eat a meal without vegetables or that's kinda iffy, if I throw in the green juice, it does make a difference on my digestion. It really does, so they did a good job with that. So good job, guys.

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Starting point is 00:46:31 I'm trying to help out my roommate with his overall health and wellness. He needs work on his sleep schedule and he advice. I feel like when you say his name, it's like Jack. Kay. Okay. Okay. Let's see here. Jack and Kay. You know what's funny? I... It's not funny. Okay. Let's see here.

Starting point is 00:46:45 Jack, okay. You know what's funny? I, it's not funny. We've talked about this before. It's crazy how important sleep is to overall performance, strength, fat loss, health. It's crazy to me because I didn't realize it until more recently. Like, when I was, and this doesn't mean that you don't need to focus on this in your 20s. What I'm realizing now is I did what I did in my 20s in spite of the fact

Starting point is 00:47:14 that I didn't do this stuff. And I can only imagine had I focused on sleep, how fucking awesome I would have been. Because it, because now that I'm more aware and I just pay attention more, as a man, it was like a badge of honor not to sleep so dumb. It was so it really was. I mean, that was I remember talking shit to each other if you had to go to bed or sleep in your day. I mean, it forever was like that. I didn't really feel the difference until I got into my 30s. Well, I that's one thing. I wonder if we did be feeling like, no, I agree with you, right? You're just at your, at that age, and everyone knows it, right?

Starting point is 00:47:48 Plus you're drinking speed stacks all day. Yes. On top of it, you know? Because I remember, you know, I'd do close-outs. So when we'd run clubs, we'd have these close-outs and the month close-outs which are big. And I would usually get in average on a close-out, 6am, so I'd get there real early, sometimes earlier.

Starting point is 00:48:06 And then I'd stay till the books, till we had to keep the books open, or at least, excuse me, till we were forced to close them, which later on became 10pm, but early on in my career, they'd let us keep the books open till midnight. So I'd be there from 6am to 10pm, at least sometimes till midnight. And then the next day is a day of work,

Starting point is 00:48:24 and I'd go to work the next day. And I remember that I would always notice a drop in performance the next day, like I'm kind of like a zombie. But I used to push myself a lot like that when I was a young kid, and I did okay in spite of it, but I can't even imagine how good I would have performed on everything had I focused on sleep.

Starting point is 00:48:43 Sleep is up there with food and water in terms of importance of health, literally total health. So I'm talking about risk of cancer, heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer's, and if you're just focused on aesthetic goals, fat loss and muscle building, will poor sleep affect your ability to build muscle and adapt?

Starting point is 00:49:02 Massively, incredibly so. It's very, very important, but there's two parts of sleep that we need to, there's two parts that we need to understand about sleep. One is sleep quantity and then the other sleep quality. And they're both very important. I think sometimes people think sleep quantity is the only thing that's important. You know what I mean? So when I talk to people about their sleep and I ask them how do you sleep,

Starting point is 00:49:26 they'll say, oh, it's fine. I get about eight hours at night, but then when I start digging deeper, like, oh, I wake up two or three times a night and I can't go back to sleep. I think people's sleep patterns look a lot like a lot of people's eating patterns with the binge and purge. I think a lot of people burn the candle at both ends

Starting point is 00:49:44 and then they sleep really hard one day, they sleep all the way in on the Saturday and I would argue that that's probably one of the worst things that we could do and I think that because they get that rest, they think they're doing okay just like the whole binging and purging of eating, you go over, eat like crazy,

Starting point is 00:50:00 then you starve your body, some of that and I think, I mean, I'm speculating that it's probably as bad I would assume it is. You're right. Yeah. So there's actually some studies on this to show how it's called sleep debt,

Starting point is 00:50:13 where you lose sleep. Like let's say you like, you know, you cram real hard for three days in a row, something like I'll sleep in Saturday. Right. And so what you're trying to do is you're trying to make up for it and they call it sleep debt. Studies show that one day of sleeping a lot does a little bit, but not much.

Starting point is 00:50:31 It's very little to help you in terms of your health and your cognitive ability or at least to bring back the decline that you get from lack of sleep. The way they say you should make up for sleep is not to do one crazy long sleep session unless you can't wake up and so whatever. What they say is to add an extra hour of sleep every night instead. So if I went two or three nights, five hours a night, and I'm just grinding, then the next four or five nights,

Starting point is 00:51:01 I add an hour of quality sleep. What's nobody's doing that? Nobody's doing that. We've not. We've not. Yeah, and even as a kid too. I mean, it's like, you kind of go through the process of, like, I want to stamp all night and, you know,

Starting point is 00:51:15 I'll be able to make up for it or, you know, I can train real hard and then, you know, I'll just all recover and, like, that's just the mentality whereas, like, you know, there's a way to make all this effortless, like this health, this performance and whatever drives you as far as your fitness goal is concerned. Like sleep's one of those things. If you incorporate a quality sleep,

Starting point is 00:51:38 it's just gonna make things a lot more effortless. And you find that having to add all these stimulants and add all this excess stuff to keep the energy levels up. It's like, you know what sucks is I remember being told this when I was younger. I just doesn't resonate yet. No, you know, you know, what it would have sold it to me? What? If I had somebody sell me on the muscle building fat loss effects of it, I agree. That would have made me do it. Yeah, you're right. But the part of like, oh, you need it

Starting point is 00:52:07 because good for you, what a fuck off, I'm good, I'm crushing, I can wake up early, no problem. But if someone sold me on the fat loss and muscle building effects, I might have done it. And I don't know if we knew the effect than necessarily how much of an impact it had back then. I remember reading, like, get good sleep, you need a lot of food.

Starting point is 00:52:23 But I feel like it's one of those things we've kind of always, that we've got a lot of room. It's something like your mom would tell you. Yeah, that's why you brush it off, right? Yeah, that's why. So, and it's tough, because this person's asking for like his roommate,

Starting point is 00:52:35 like, how do you help me out with my roommate overall health wellness, he needs to work on a sleep. Well, so, so I, I need to help a homey out. It is telling me to sleep more, yeah. So I helped Jessica with this, because she had terrible sleep patterns

Starting point is 00:52:46 when we first started dating. She was one of those go, go, go, coffee in the morning, don't need much sleep and she'd wake up in the middle of the night or she'd wake up hell early. And so one thing that we did that really helped was we created a sleep routine. We reduced caffeine during the day and all that other stuff,

Starting point is 00:53:03 but we did a sleep routine. So about one to two hours before bed, we shut the lights off and either use candle light or go by really, really dim light. So it's now dark in the house. And what we try... Try each other smoke signals. Yeah, no. What we try and do now is we try to mimic the sun.

Starting point is 00:53:20 So if the sun sets and it's supposed to be dark outside, then we make it dark in the house. And at first it's weird, but then you get used to it. It's not a big deal. We have enough light to see what we need to do. Turn off all electronics, and then we'll have one or two cups of Camelmil tea, which is really relaxing. You imagine being a teenage boy walking over to your house

Starting point is 00:53:37 like when we were kids and seeing that, and be like, what the fuck is going on here? Oh, dude. They're sacrificing another animal. What's up, bro? You can't afford to keep your lights on. Turn your lights on, man. Well, you know what's funny is that I first, I didn't know that I didn't think this would make a difference. It makes a big difference. Huge because then when we go on these trips

Starting point is 00:53:54 and stuff and we don't do that and I try to go to sleep right after, bright-ass lights and you know, it's hard. Did you ever like convert to the blue blocker thing? Yep. My kids were. Really? So at night, when the kids are watching, if the kids are watching, because I'll let them watch a little bit of TV or something more before bed,

Starting point is 00:54:13 I'll have them put on the blue blockers at least an hour or two before bed. Oh, that sucks. You fuck up their whole cartoon experience. No, why? Because it changes the colors. No, the ones I bought you, they don't do that. Oh, they don't? No, I got these really expensive ones that don't change. How is that possible?

Starting point is 00:54:27 If it's a blue blocker and you're watching TV, wouldn't it block the blue science? Adam. Adam. No, they're they're clear. I've tried watching before and I'm like this fucking sucks. Don't worry. I feel like I just went back 15 years on television. Yeah. I got my 17 year like 70s. Yeah, I did like the TVs all like fuzzy now. Because I got my sympathy here, like 70s. Yeah, I did like the TV's all like fuzzy now, cause I got these glasses on. Your team's so not my death. You know what I learned? This is something that has been really tough for me

Starting point is 00:54:54 because I was never like somebody who got good sleep. I was definitely the person who wore it like it was a badge of honor to not sleep. And I do recognize it's not as simple as just going to bed for me. I have to prep myself before I go to bed to have a successful night of sleep. If I think I'm just going to work and do whatever and watch TV all the way till it's time for me that I gotta go to sleep or it's getting close to midnight or whatever, I always have a hard time sleeping. But if I do this to, and I've put this together now

Starting point is 00:55:28 from playing around with all this and all the talk that we've done with the blue blocking and all that shit, the biggest thing for me is turning off all those bright lights in your house when the sun goes down, like turning that all off and it's crazy how big of a difference. It makes a huge difference. It makes a huge difference.

Starting point is 00:55:44 And then another bad habit of mine is the phone and the computer screen you know close to my face you know right before I go to bed so if I shut it off at seven it's that's plenty of time for me to completely wind down and then it's really easy for me to transition and go to bed. Did you do now that you've been doing that because you had really bad sleep before, like how, if you were to rate your sleep before versus now, how big of a difference? Oh, it's a huge difference.

Starting point is 00:56:12 And I can tell by the way I get up, I mean, I get up, I don't have to use an alarm most of the time. If I had to be up really early, like when we fly out somewhere at the get up at 4.30, like that's a little abnormal, but. What about caffeine? Have you limited your caffeine in the evening? I'm never, I'm never any caffeine at night. Okay, at night. Oh yeah, no, I don't I can't do

Starting point is 00:56:28 caffeine. You see the last you've gone four o'clock. Yeah, four o'clock is I have that I'm not gonna go down to a science right? If I go beyond that I'm screwed. Yeah if I go anytime even like four sometimes we'll fuck up my sleep a little bit like it's so I don't even like to flirt with that. Come around noon or one I'm pretty much done. Say it was not good for sleep drinking alcohol. Oh, it's, so I don't even like to flirt with that. Come around noon or one, I'm pretty much done. I'll tell you what's not good for sleep drinking alcohol. Oh, it's the worst. You have the worst sleep when you drink alcohol. I'm horrible with that.

Starting point is 00:56:51 But some people think because it does wind you down and it passes out. Yeah, it's like, that's the, it takes the amount of like a drink of wine or whatever, you know, like to kind of cool everything. It does not contribute to sleep. That's sleep quality right there. Like it'll knock you out.

Starting point is 00:57:06 So this is how I use brain FM is, brain FM is my hack when I don't follow my steps like I'm supposed to. Like so in a perfect world, I come home, you know, we light a fire, suns down, lights are off, we're pretty much by fire and maybe watching the big screen for a little bit. Then, you know, seven o'clock rolls around and Katrina and I are like listening to an

Starting point is 00:57:29 audio book. Like that's that night right there. I'll have the most lovely sleep ever if I if I follow those steps. Now, real life, sometimes that that shit doesn't happen and I'm busy or forget to turn the lights off or I don't even get home until late. I've been going still. This is when I really try and use brain FM because people ask me all the time about that. I say, I use it a lot because that unfortunately happens to me a lot where I'm not perfect. I'm always striving though to do this all naturally. I want to try and do that. Let the lights all come down.

Starting point is 00:58:01 Stop staring at a screen at 7 o eight beyond seven eight o'clock, do something that's more like either me reading or listening to a book, that winds me down really well. Otherwise, if I can't get to that, I don't do all those steps. It's kind of like the same way I supplement with green juice with vegetables. It's like always the goal. I would never tell someone to go take green juice every single day. Instead of having vegetables.

Starting point is 00:58:22 Right. Instead of having vegetables, it's like my goal always is to not have to use it but I love to supplement with that wall the same thing is with brain FM I use this as a tool of like when I I know the steps I need to do to have a perfect night sleep and then I know what happens when I don't and then that's when I use that hack next question is from and her beth do you think there are any health benefits to high carb diets so yeah? So yeah, yeah, I Not necessarily because it's high carb more so because it's low

Starting point is 00:58:52 other things So typically if you have a high carb because if you have a high carb high fat high protein diet Well, then you just have a high calorie use that So so this is in context. So when someone says high carb It's in context to or comparison to the other macronutrients. I definitely think so when I go on my vegan days, where sometimes my vegan days are mostly low calorie vegetables, but there's

Starting point is 00:59:16 been times where I'll do quinoa or buckweed or a little bit of carbohydrates with my vegetables. So in context, those days are high carb for me because I don't eat very much protein at all, except for what comes from my veggies. And the fat is a little bit of olive oil here and there. Is there a benefit to that? You better believe it.

Starting point is 00:59:36 I mean, when you fast, one of the reasons why when you fast, you get all these health benefits is because you have low protein and low carbohydrates. So low protein also has its benefits in terms of reducing inflammation in terms of reducing cancer risk, reducing some of the aging effects that food has on the body, tends to come from a lot of protein. And I think it mimics it more mimics

Starting point is 01:00:05 How our bodies kind of evolved eating because we've talked about this on the show for sure humans won't we know through all most of human evolution For sure we weren't like oh got my proteins and fats got to have my carbs got to have my my veggies and then they have this Balanced meal or whatever but meals were not balanced That's a recent thing where we think we need to have you know so many of each macro Right the most meals were probably I killed this animal So guess what we're eating for the next year is all protein and all fat. Yeah, and oh look We we found some some vegetables and stuff. Guess we're reading for the next you know a couple days Well, I definitely like high carb for, you know, athletic purposes if you deplete first, right? So if you go through the process of being, you know, glycogen depleted

Starting point is 01:00:50 and then you come back, you reintroduce. So it's a timing thing as far as now that I'm going to have like this type of a fuel to give me immediate source. So when I do any kind of really strenuous, like, you know, fastitch type exercises and power, you know, that's a great fuel source to run off of. So, I think high carb diets have got a really bad rap in the last few years. And I think part of that is less about the, it's high carb and really how much our lifestyle has changed as humans. I think that part of why keto and paleo are such the crave right now is because people

Starting point is 01:01:25 are so sedentary. Yeah, we're so sedentary. We don't move anymore. I mean, you know what would suck is a low carb diet back in like 1901, fucking bailing hay all day long. Fuck yeah, you know I'm saying. You're a farmer. Just fuck ketones.

Starting point is 01:01:39 I wouldn't want to be running on ketones back then. I would want some quick sugars. No thanks. Yeah, so I think that I think these high carb diets have gotten people trying demonize carbs. And even though we're very pro, ketogenic, we're pro, paleo, I mean, I'm pro everything. It's like food, it's just- As long as it makes sense, you know, for your lifestyle. And just like with any other diet, I would tell this same person too that I do, I'm pro

Starting point is 01:02:03 high carb diet, but I wouldn't run that all the time, you know? No, and there's some, I mean, there's situate, vegan diets tend to be high in carbohydrates, and for some people, vegan diets are extremely healthy. And when you look at the world's blue zones, this is where people live, a disproportionate amount of people live to 100 or older compared to the rest of the world. Some of them do have carbohydrate heavy diets. Again, it's all in proportion to the other macronutrients. Now, this doesn't mean high sugar or high processed foods because carbohydrates come in many different forms.

Starting point is 01:02:39 I, you know, you have the whole grains, which for some people are great. Other people, they have intolerances to some of them. So then you can go rice and buckwheat and quinoa, starches like potato, certain types of corn. Those things can definitely have for some people health benefits. And they feed different bacteria in the gut. That's another thing too. There's also benefits to running a high carb diet too if you're somebody who knows

Starting point is 01:03:04 they intermittently introduce things like wine or cake or things in their diet. If you don't ever eat something like that and you follow keto genic diet and then you do those things, I think that I feel like it's far more detrimental to your body as far as what you feel like afterwards. I think it gives you more metabolic flexibility when you do that with cycling high carbs and everyone's.

Starting point is 01:03:26 Yeah, one of the problems too is when people in the past, high carb diets were usually relegated to, endurance athletes. So like runner cyclists, they're the ones that were pushing carbs, and people who did that, some many times had negative effects. But if you look at the food that they were eating to get the carbs, it was a lot of pasta, a lot of bread, a lot of these kinds of grains. Sarchee, yeah. Yeah, and it wasn't the processed. Yeah, the less processed, more natural types of carbohydrates, which again, this is a lot of this is anecdote, but a lot of people do better on those versus the you know the Postas and the breads and those kinds of grains so Doug what's the next question? Hey guys Doug here Let's see so this is from

Starting point is 01:04:18 Let's see Scott finding wellness in your experience. Does it take longer for someone who has been overweight their entire life to lose weight than someone who has only been overweight for a few years or so? Sal, take it away. Yeah, you can do that. All right, Doug, I'll do it. All right, all right, all right.

Starting point is 01:04:41 Yeah, it is harder for a charter. Much harder for a charter. Much harder, there's a few reasons why. Let's just focus on the behavioral component. Let's not look, don't even worry about the physical component. Oh, because that's part of it. That's a great point. But the behavioral component, is it harder

Starting point is 01:04:55 to change your behavior if your behavior has been something that you've been practicing for two years versus something you've been practicing your whole life. Well, there's your answer right there. If you've been overweight your entire life, the odds are you've probably not had a very active life and definitely probably have not been eating very well. You've overeaten quite a bit and your food choices are probably not that great. And you will probably raise that way. A lot of kids were when I was a kid and in today too.

Starting point is 01:05:30 Although I feel like today, kids or parents are a little bit more aware than they were when I was a kid, but when I was a kid, you're talkin' about the 80s. This was the heyday of processed food. Like the 80s had and explosion, because TV dinners got introduced in the 50s. I mean hot pockets were yeah, then the 60s kind of but still mom was still cooking at home homes, you know, home cooked meal 70s. It

Starting point is 01:05:54 started getting more popular than the 80s happened. And what happened in the 80s would you had an explosion in the divorce rate, which really started to take off in the 60s, but really the 80s when it hit like monumental level So you had a lot of you know single parent households or kids that were latched key where they would come home from school You know moms were working now, you know in the 80s when it became regular moms were working dads were working kids come home I got to come home warm up some bagel bites. Yeah, convenience became a priority much more than in the past. In the past, a parent was home, usually mom, and she would prepare food for you.

Starting point is 01:06:32 It was home cooked. Well, when nobody's home, both people work, I know this. I was like this with my, when I was married, like it's tough. It's a tough gig. And on top of it, you want to cook dinner, which takes an hour and then you got to clean everything You know easy it is to just be like you know what? Let's just buy some food or let's just pull this out of the freezer you guys want a pizza

Starting point is 01:06:53 You want some cereal you want you know, whatever it's super easy So when I was a kid this is when processed foods fucking exploded like literally went crazy this food's fucking exploded. Like literally went crazy. You know, my household, luckily my parents are a bit old school. I ate a home cooked dinner most of the time. However, I also had a shit ton of process food in my house all the time. So lunch was usually something processed

Starting point is 01:07:20 because my mom didn't make us all lunch all the time. Sometimes she did, but it was always just dinner. And breakfast was always a sugary cereal or a toaster strutal or a pop tart or some other bullshit. And when I would go to school, my lunches, which were a sandwich with some kind of a process snack, didn't even compare to my friend's lunches. My friend's lunches, they'd have like some kind of a soda or, did even compare to my friends' lunches. My friends' lunches, they'd have like a, some kind of a soda or fruit, fake drink.

Starting point is 01:07:49 They'd have some kind of a package, something of a fruit. Squirt, they would have squirt. That was a real common one. And it was just, I was just like, just syrup. It was, I was so jealous too when I saw this. I've ever loved.

Starting point is 01:08:01 So it was really fucking bad. So you've got all these kids who grew up this way. So now that you're growing up eating this, your palate is fucking thrown off. Right. Because you're so used to engineered foods that when you eat whole foods or natural foods, it tastes like shit, it tastes bland.

Starting point is 01:08:15 That can change though, and that will change if you put the time in it. Is it, but how hard is it to change when it is? That's your wiring since you were a kid. It is, but I mean, I'll, you're here to test them again. Oh, fucking hell, was that kid for sure? I mean, we had candy forever.

Starting point is 01:08:28 And it was all the way through high school for sure and into my, even my 20. So this was something that it was later in life that I break out of this. It wasn't until like I started seeing the autoimmune issues popping up where I started to try and like, okay, what the fuck's going on with me? And I'm sure this didn't help the cause of me,

Starting point is 01:08:43 you know, consuming as much garbage and sugar as I was always consuming. But the question was more like, what would the question of me was, in the end of years, parents taking me along for someone who has been overweight? You know, here's the thing that I want to talk about what I see with this client that's really common that I think is really important to address is a lot of times when you have a long way to go like this and you've decided you're going to make this change, you're super motivated and you kind of you kind of throw the whole kitchen sink at it. And I think in my experience, the most common thing that I've had to do is to coach people

Starting point is 01:09:19 through this process of not overdoing it too fast too soon because what happens when you've got a hundred pounds or more to lose, you start, you want, you want the pounds that up so fast. Like you're looking at the hundred pounds and you're going like, I don't want to get five pounds this week and seven pounds next week and show. You've got 30 pounds. Yeah, right. And shows like the biggest loser just play right into this. And I absolutely hate that because if you're gonna keep it off forever, you really wanna go nice and slow and gradual.

Starting point is 01:09:47 And I think it's important that if you're gonna set yourself up for long-term success, you don't wanna see tons of pounds coming off you week over week. No, and that's hard to tell somebody. We need to, well, let's break it down, right? So you've been overrate for most of your life, and now you wanna lose weight. So why is it important to go slow? Well, there's a couple of reasons why now. Psychologically speaking,

Starting point is 01:10:12 you want to challenge yourself because challenge is what gives meaning to things. So if you could just snap your fingers and lose all that weight, you'll quickly find that you're, if you were to compare yourself to a version of yourself that lost that weight through changing behaviors, eating right, through exercises, much more to gain from the hard way because challenge gives things meaning it means more there's more to learn. So you do want to challenge yourself. So what Adam's saying isn't go slow like don't challenge yourself. Right, right. Challenge yourself. However, you want to challenge yourself with something that is realistic. So something you know that will be a challenge, but you also know I can probably do that.

Starting point is 01:10:54 Don't challenge yourself with stuff that you realistically think I'm probably going to fail at because if you're stringing the fails in front of you together, you've lost your hope. You don't want to do it anymore. Like, fuck it. I'm not winning this sucks. You know, I've already totally destroyed my new diet or whatever.

Starting point is 01:11:12 It's not going to work. So starting very slow is super important. And sometimes, and this was Adam brought this up a long time ago. I thought it was absolutely brilliant. Sometimes the best thing to do is to not take anything away, but rather to add rather than to take things away add things Right add healthier stuff. So instead of so maybe the first goal maybe the first goal isn't to You know cut out sugar or something like that. Maybe the first goal is I am going to eat

Starting point is 01:11:36 One large serving of vegetables every day and do that first Because that can be challenging, but it's realistic. I think it's more realistic than cutting something out for most people Start with that and then and then take it from there now physically speaking is it harder to lose weight if you've had it on your whole life Besides the psychological. Yes, there's evidence to suggest that You add fat cells to your body Of only a few times in your life one is you know when you're a baby Another time is when you go through puberty and then another time is in the third trimester, when you're a baby, another time is when you go through puberty, and then another time is in the third trimester pregnancy if you're a woman.

Starting point is 01:12:08 So if you're gaining a lot of body fat as a kid, you know, you could very well just be adding more fat cells to your body, which then makes it more difficult to lose later on. So, but this is not to say that there isn't hope, you know, I don't want to crap anybody out. Like, there's a lot of hope. You just have to change your behaviors and that takes a long time, so be patient with yourself.

Starting point is 01:12:29 Yeah, I think it can be daunting, especially if it's like you've been overweight your entire life. And you just don't know what it looks like to live a different type of lifestyle. And so, you know, to, and this is all waiting on like, how they're coming in and what kind of mentality

Starting point is 01:12:48 they have going towards this change. Are they really open to changing their lifestyle or are they just wanting to lose weight? And it's a totally different process. So, I think that, you know, it's definitely gonna depend on the person and their intent throughout the process because somebody too that it already, you know,

Starting point is 01:13:07 been in shape and then got way out of shape may look at coming back into shape as like almost impossible because they knew, you know, the process to them was even more scary. You'll get used to it, right? If you've been a fat your whole life, you get used to it. You know, if you happen over a course of a couple years, you might be more motivated because you're like,

Starting point is 01:13:26 oh, I remember what it was like. This is somebody too that I would love to see inside of our form because of the support that's there and how many people that has actually gone through this themselves. So if, you know, Scott, I don't know where you're at financially if you can afford to get in the form. If you can't, then you reach out to me

Starting point is 01:13:42 and I'll let you in the form for free because this is the type of person that I think it's important. That's very nice. I know. The way you start this journey is extremely crucial. You need a community. Yeah. And I think the forum has got tons of people, man, that would love to share their process and the steps they took. So make sure you reach out. and the steps they took. So make sure you reach out. Next question is from Jeff Sherman 22. Working at a new open box gym as a personal trainer.

Starting point is 01:14:11 Our one-on-one sessions are 40 minutes long and we can only train in a circuit style, hit program. My manager believes this will generate more clients down the line because of the fast paced movement. I don't think that's the right choice. Just wanted to get your advice on circuit-only style training. So go with your intuition. So Jeff, so here's what I want you to do.

Starting point is 01:14:35 If your boss doesn't listen to mind pump, send him this episode because I'm going to give a message right now to your manager. You're an idiot. Okay, you're not a good manager and no, that's not going to work. Now, if you're creating a circuit gym and that's what you guys do, like it said, it's like an orange theory or something like that, that's fine. But if this is one-on-one training, then what the fuck are you doing? Like all the value one-on-one training is being able to individualize a training program. Right. I was just taking a class at that

Starting point is 01:15:03 point. You are going to burn people out and you're training, not only just to clients, you're going to burn your trainers out. If you're limit your trainers of this much, you know, to what they can do in this particular, you're going to have a tough time. Okay, well, take a deep breath because now, obviously Jeff has triggered all of us because obviously a soft spot for all of us that have managed managers for a long time and we'll probably choke a manager episode now. Let's think about this that this is probably somebody who's been promoted very young and I mean, I was 22 years old when I was managing a team that everybody was older than I was and I probably

Starting point is 01:15:39 a very surface understanding of fitness. Right. Exactly. And maybe this manager doesn't know that, okay? So this is the Jeff, you need to understand that, maybe you're more educated, maybe you listen to mind, pump on a regular basis, so the information that you've received over the last two years is probably more than what this manager potentially has. And so having a little bit of compassion

Starting point is 01:16:03 and understanding that. Now, a great book that I recommend to people that are in situations like this was John C. Maxwell's 360 leader. And that's just about what it's like leading and managing in middle management. So what's it like for someone like you who has people above you and below you, and especially when you feel like you're smarter than they are, and how do you navigate around that? because at the end of the day, even though Sal is passionate and wants to tell you're boss to fuck off, you can't say that. Or else you probably won't have a job.

Starting point is 01:16:33 Probably won't have a job. So I think that, man, this is a really tough one if he's enforcing it because if you truly feel that you're not doing a good service to your clients and you need to move on, this might be your... You might want to look at another jam. Yeah, you may want to look, especially if this is coming from leadership, right? Because obviously, their concern is to just burn as much calories and potentially lose somebody quick weight so they can show quick results and hopefully reassign more people or bus more people in and out. It's trying to be all like time efficient.

Starting point is 01:17:08 Yeah, looking at it from like a numbers management, you know, business, you kind of of a mindset. It doesn't work with training people. But you'll see we just released a hit program right now and in the hit program comes with a warning that tells people they should not follow this longer than six weeks. There's a time and a place for it. Yeah, imagine doing this all the time. No, that's the thing.

Starting point is 01:17:30 Yeah, he's telling everybody's doing it all the time. I mean, I could see it being a successful business model if that was the business model. If it wasn't, if it was a, because this is a big box gym, which is a little different, but like orange theory, there's a style, there's how they follow things and I could see that, you know, people coming in for that specific type of class, but I don't know, man, like, yeah, but that's a class. This is one-on-one, like you had mentioned earlier. One-on-one is that's all the value of one-on-one is the individualism is the identifying, you know, problematic movements and fixing it. And basically adding strength to the entire body

Starting point is 01:18:09 in a measured way. Is he, I mean, so here's the thing too, is if he's just suggesting it and he thinks that that's what you should do and he's coaching that, he just, he doesn't know, and like Sal said, he's an idiot, he doesn't know any better. But if he's not, and he's not enforcing it,

Starting point is 01:18:24 he's just, do you. Do your fucking thing. You don he's not, and he's not forcing it, just do you. Do your fucking thing. You don't need to, don't waste your time trying to tell your, because that would be naive of you to think that you're going to make your boss feel dumb and try and educate him. That's not gonna go over a very long time. I would probably just do it the way I would do it anyways.

Starting point is 01:18:38 And then if you said something, it turns into like a meeting thing, but cool, bring your boss. Exactly, that's a great,. And then we'll talk. Right, I would continue to do what I think is best for my clients and then if he was that dumb, like Justin said. It's a tough situation to be in because

Starting point is 01:18:53 as a trainer, most fitness people have a passion for the clients, especially one-on-one. Like when you train someone one-on-one, you develop a bond with them, they trust you, and you wanna help them. I've seen many times where trainers are in this predicament where they're boss or whatever's telling them to sell them particular product, products, or supplements, or tell them to do a particular thing, and then the trainer themselves know that that's not right for the client. That's a tough predicament to be in, but at the end

Starting point is 01:19:22 of the day, I'm going to recommend that you be true to yourself. It might hurt you in the short term. In other words, you might lose your job or whatever. But I don't, it's hard to live with yourself when you're doing things. Your clients will respect you and that's what matters. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So check this out YouTube, Mind Pump TV, new videos posted all the time. Also 30 days of coaching, we still got that going on. It's at MindPumpMedia.com, it's totally free. Lots of incredible information there. Get your friends signed up.

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