Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 714: Full Body vs. Split, Work Out Motivation, Owning a Gym & MORE

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mampun, this one's sponsored by OG Kush. No, it's not. So for the first, I don't know, 30 minutes or so, we do our normal introductory conversation, current events talk.

Starting point is 00:00:29 Yeah, it was at normals, extraordinary. We talk about the Google heart disease, predictive algorithm. Magic. They actually have a device or something that can predict heart disease with something like 70% accuracy just by looking into your eyes. Looking to my eyes.

Starting point is 00:00:47 We also talk about the woman who can smell Parkinson's disease. She can actually sniff Parkinson's on someone and no, it's not when the symptoms are present, Adam. That would be obvious. We also talk about dogs that can smell cancer. That's actually a true thing. I think it's a bladder It's like it, huh? What do you think it smells like? I have no idea like cancer. Okay, then we talk about Barney For those of you that are not old like we are Barney was this purple dinosaur It was super super annoying. Well the guy that was inside the Barney costume

Starting point is 00:01:24 Now psychic he know he's a tantric sex super, super annoying. Well, the guy that was inside the Barney costume, now a psychic. He, no, he's a tantric of sex guru. Yeah, he's better. Tantric, sex guru, and he did say something about how being Barney helped him with that. Gross. Yeah. We talk about time travelers and psychics.

Starting point is 00:01:41 That's where the psychics came in. Time travelers and psychics. So Barney's not a time traveler in a psychic, right? No, but that's still what it made sense. I also mentioned Four-sigmatic chaga and it's apparent Boner-boosting effects. Whoa in fact, it's happening. I bet you they didn't even know that as I'm speaking We are sponsored by four-sigmatic if you go to four We are sponsored by four Sigma, if you go to four Sigma, F-O-U-R, S-I-G-M-A-T-I-C, dot-com-force-min pump, and enter the code, Minepump, you get a discount.

Starting point is 00:02:11 And then we did a Thrive Market unboxing. Now don't forget Thrive Market is the place online to buy non-GMO organic products, including skin products, hair products, and lots of other things. Two-day shipping. And this company is incredibly low in its prices. In fact, you can buy these products at many times lower costs than their conventional counterparts, which is kind of cool. They also have a drop-down menu now where you can pick keto or paleo or whatever.

Starting point is 00:02:42 Doug went keto in this unboxing, find out what we got from Thrive Market. We are sponsored by them, so it's ThriveMarket.com. Forth slash Mind Pump, you will get one month free membership, $20 off your first three orders of $49 a more and completely free shipping. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, how was someone supposed to know whether or not a full body routine is better for them

Starting point is 00:03:04 or a body part split is better for them? It's better for me. We give out the secrets in this episode. That's totally pretty. I did good until then. Then somebody asks us, do we have any advice for someone who wants to start their career as a trainer and then eventually... We give off for advice here.

Starting point is 00:03:21 ...wants to open a gym. We just... Listen, she is all over this. Dream sh, we just, we just, just, just, all over this dream, dream shattering. Hey, somehow in a fast forward this one. Yeah, we suggest you play the lottery. The person that asked this.

Starting point is 00:03:31 Yeah, better chances there. Yeah, pretty much. The next question was, what is our opinion on somebody being motivated to work out just so they can, in their words, get girls, that's kind of creepy sounding. Is extrinsic, it's extrinsic, I can say, motivation as good as intrinsic motivation.

Starting point is 00:03:50 It's intrinsic. You don't have to talk about it. You're motivated by something outside of your body versus being motivated by something in your body, Adam. In it? He gets very motivated. That's intrinsic. The final question.

Starting point is 00:04:02 If you're hungry and you have no other options, so this is one of those either or questions that probably never exist in real life, but let's say this is reality and you only have two options. Eat, process, crappy food, or don't eat any food. Which one's better? Which one is better?

Starting point is 00:04:22 Twinkies though. Find out in this episode. Also, I've been getting a lot of messages lately from people who are, you know, they're curious. They're like, this, no joke. Just a lot of the messages are saying this. I just started listening to my impump, huge fan. I'm very serious about my fitness.

Starting point is 00:04:40 I want to either lose weight, gain weight, whatever. You know, they always tell me their goals. Which program do you think I should do? Now typically what I do with these people is I ask them what their goals are and I get trying to get deeper, but ultimately my answer is usually the same. It's either I usually give them two options. One maps program that fits their needs. So let's say that they have pain and they want correctional exercise.

Starting point is 00:05:02 Well then I may recommend Maps Prime or Prime Pro, or if somebody's like an athlete or functional exercise practitioner, or they really like that kind of training, then I'll say Maps Performance, or if they're a bodybuilder, a bikini competitor, or they like to train that way, then I'll say Maps Esthetic, or Maps Antibolic for people who just want to build strength and muscle or just kind of getting started out. But the other option I give people is always the same and that's the super bundle. The super bundle includes all of those programs, plus it includes maps anywhere.

Starting point is 00:05:31 And the super bundle is a year of exercise programming. So if you look at your body and you look at how your body responds and reacts to exercise, it responds and reacts to signals that you send it through, stresses through working out. The body quickly adapts to these signals and stops progressing, and that's why you change your adaptation signal. When you have the super bundle,

Starting point is 00:05:51 it's all planned out for you. So what that means is you can start in maps and a ballac, which is 12 weeks. Each, the 12 weeks is broken up into three phases. You do that, you're done with that. Boom, now you move to another maps, maybe you moved to maps for formats. Now you're doing maps for formats. This is gonna highlight everything that you may not have that. Boom, now you moved to another maps, maybe you moved to maps for formats. Now you're doing maps for formats.

Starting point is 00:06:05 This is gonna highlight everything that you may not have been doing, which is beautiful. Everything, now you're doing maps for formats. That's four phases, that's four, that's 14 weeks long. Then you're like, you know what, I wanna work on my aesthetics, boom, maps aesthetic.

Starting point is 00:06:19 You know what, I wanna do some body weight at home type training, boom, maps anywhere. I mean, you go down the list, your body's progressing the entire time. It's one year of exercise programming. And the best part is here's how we set up our programs. With a lot of other fitness advice, you have to pay monthly every month if you want that. Not with us. You pay once, you get access to these programs for life. For more information, or if you're just serious and you want to do this, go to pump media dot com did you hear about uh

Starting point is 00:06:45 google's new algorithm so google has this new algorithm that can uh look at the the blood vessels in your eyes and tell um what person no no if you if you're uh if the potential of having heart disease and it's so blood testing right now is like 72% accurate to this and this test hits at 70% it's just imaging blood testing right now is like 72% accurate to this. And this test hits at 70%. It's just imaging the eyes. Yes, that's all it's doing. You're like looking into your computer screen,

Starting point is 00:07:11 they can figure this out. It's all looking to my eyes. Yeah. You can have a heart attack. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, sorry. I'm already fine, I've done. Oh, AI algorithm predicts heart disease by looking at your eyes.

Starting point is 00:07:23 Hmm, well, what specifically in the eyes are they looking for? I don't think they tell you. Well, that sounds like magic. Proids, it was. It did this his day. They ran it on like, they did like a 3000, 3000 study group, right?

Starting point is 00:07:40 And 70% of them were spot on accurate, right? Well, the blood testing hits it like 72%. So that's currently right now, that's how we would test for heart disease would be through blood testing. And blood testing is still not 100% accurate, it's 72% accurate. This would hit at 70%.

Starting point is 00:07:57 That's a big fucking deal. It's not invasive. Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's not invasive. You could do it probably from your home. I mean, that's a big fucking deal. If it's not, that sounds crazy. Actually, if it's AI, I could see this being an app.

Starting point is 00:08:08 Yeah. Right. Well, imagine it reminds me of the conversation I had with this guy who created the monitor to, you know, check and see like your aerobic threshold, right? Based off of, you know, the height of your chest and like the patterns, and the patterns when you breathe. So actually they could accurately predict when you would finish in a marathon to the very minute. Oh, that's crazy.

Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, because of all the aggregated data that they got from that and how this repeated, this pattern repeated amongst everybody. Well, I can see that. You could tell by someone's VO2 max and like, okay, based off of how long this person would be running on average, they'd probably fall around this time. But this was even more accurate than the VO2 tests

Starting point is 00:08:53 and all these other metrics they've used before. There's a lot of things that are unseen that we don't realize will help you predict what's about to happen. We just don't know because we don't know that they exist. Yeah, we haven't been monitoring them. We just don't know because we don't know that they exist. We haven't been monitoring them. We just don't know. Like using those numbers and watching them.

Starting point is 00:09:09 There's this woman, a British lady, who can smell Parkinson's. What? What? Yeah, like, no joke. So she can, let me see how she can be looking up. She can smell it. I want, like, what is that, like, she's accurate,

Starting point is 00:09:23 like all the time, like, what's the, and why just Parkinson's? She's smell it. Um, I want like, what is that like she's accurate like all the time? Like what's the, and why just Parkinson's? She's extremely accurate. Um, yeah, she's extremely. Yeah, comment to have like the shakes with Parkinson's. You're not very talented. If you walk up to people and smell them in their hands or shaking. No, no. So that's that's later on.

Starting point is 00:09:37 I don't, I don't, I think she can smell the Parkinson's before you get the symptoms of it. So I don't think she's walking up to like Michael J. Fox and she's like, Oh, yeah, I definitely bitch. Oh, yeah. So perfectly. Oh, yeah, it looks like he got so wrong. Excuse me, excuse me for interrupting here, but you smell like, you know what? Yeah, I have a diagnosis for you.

Starting point is 00:10:01 Oh, that's weird. I could smell obesity. I just want to get to someone weird. It could smell obesity. Just like it. So, weird smell like far. So, oh, Doug found her. Yes. So, what they're doing is they're studying her to see how they can develop a test based off of what she's detecting with her nose. What? Yes. That is insane. Is she the only person that's like this? This is the only person they've ever felt there's dogs that can smell drugs, I know that won't Yeah, I'm like I'm experiencing

Starting point is 00:10:30 Airport, yeah, no, they don't I don't you know the dogs at the airport aren't there to smell drugs bombs That's right. Yeah, they don't give shit about drugs trust me. I get it. I've gone flying without a many time I get it. I've gone flying without a many times. Oh, yeah. Every time there's a dog, I like, I separate myself from Adam. Oh, okay. I like, I have it a plan in my head like, oh, what's that? It's his.

Starting point is 00:10:51 He's on his own. He would sell me out, dude. I just keep walking much to arrest you. I'll get all the blame. Gotta go. No, so, yeah, so there's dogs that can smell cancer. You ever wonder why the dogs are there? Sometimes and then sometimes they're not there?

Starting point is 00:11:06 Just because they probably don't have enough money to have them there all the time. Well, so it's random. Oh, I bet it's random. You never know, I bet it's random. I bet it's real random. Why do you, well, I don't get why you say that. Why do you think?

Starting point is 00:11:18 Because I find it strange. I find it strange, like a conspiracy. I'm dying, I'm not saying that either, but I'm just saying, I'm just asking you if you know why the dog is there on random, random fucking days and not other days. The least thing of it is I like to say, oh, I know that they're not. You know what I mean, like weak.

Starting point is 00:11:34 Yeah. I know what they're doing. Yeah, I know what those dogs are doing with their not around. With the luminonty. They're playing cards. They're playing poker. I've seen the picture.

Starting point is 00:11:43 That's right. No, it's it's pretty crazy But they can smell these things in people so they're actually training dogs to smell cancer That's crazy, man. Yeah, I mean it's I know that I don't know what had a smile I've heard stories of dogs that they can definitely sense death and so they'll go to their owner or whoever And like you're gonna die. Yeah,, but they'll go curl up to them. Like, it's happened at like, what do you call those like,

Starting point is 00:12:10 where people are like on their way out, hospice, thank you. Anybody who's happened to much time. Anybody who's had pets for a long time, especially dogs knows this. Like when you get sick, my dogs know, you could tell they know. You could tell the way they cuddle up to you, they're way gentler, they're, what are they doing? You have sex? Huh? What are they doing? That's when it gets awkward? Yeah

Starting point is 00:12:29 I've always wondered I never had like you close the door, but then they're like Then they like wine and scratch and it ruins the mood anyway cuz I so I gotta let him watch I grew up They have to learn Daddy time listen. There's a it's called doggy style. They invented it. So we learned from that. I've had dogs my whole life, but they never lived in the house because we're old school of times, right?

Starting point is 00:12:54 Dog lives in the backyard in the dog house. So I never knew, I never experienced that. And I was wondering that. So I figured right now it would be a good time to ask. So it depends. It depends. So they in the room with you? Yeah, the ours are always in the room.

Starting point is 00:13:04 So they're, what? Why are you smashing? Always? Yeah, the ours are always in the room. So they're, yeah. What? Why are you smashing? Always. Yeah, 100%. They live in our room. So when we go to bed, like, so if Katrina and I are like, what? Are they not doing anything?

Starting point is 00:13:12 Well, sometimes. So. You're a little like cold nose. First of all, the worst part of not having English bulldogs and having sex in the same room is they fart a lot. And they fart a lot at night. That's not going to kill you. So there's nothing, there's nothing having sex in the same room is they fart a lot and they fart a lot at night That's that's not gonna kill you. So there's nothing There's nothing like being in the the heat of passion there and fucking you smell a bulldog part

Starting point is 00:13:33 Yeah, that'll kill it for somebody's lying. Yeah I was like, oh, stop. Oh my God. I was like, what? And no one has bothered me as much as it bothers her. That's fucked up, man. Yeah, but then sometimes it just depends, if it's like a random day sex, right? So they have more energy in them.

Starting point is 00:13:56 And then they think you're playing. They think you're rough housing and playing. And so they're jumping? Yeah, yeah. So they're trying to jump up with a bed and growling sometimes. And they think that they're playing, because it's a middle of the day, but if it's nighttime It's pretty getting a wrestling again. Yeah, night night time. They know what's up, you know I feel weird with the dog in the room. It is weird at first, but then you know

Starting point is 00:14:16 What you get used to my boys will snore right through it man. Yeah, yeah, those snore We need to be a booster game, buddy North. We need to be a booster game, buddy. Help it. They know it. They know the time. Nobody, nothing can sleep in the same room. I'm having sex. I'll tell that right now. You dead personal lives from there. I'm not sure, but I thought I heard Jessica say something about your neighbors not even liking you guys. Oh, that much. You make that comment. She did. I caught it. It was under her breath. Like you said something about the neighbors. And then I heard her go, oh yeah, they probably don't like this. You know, 50 shades in there. What do you know?

Starting point is 00:14:48 Oh, no, no, no. Oh my god. Oh, it's just making out lots of making out heavy making out. Heavy making out. I see. Hey, did you hear about the kid tech stuff that's going on right now too? So there's a tech. Yeah, so there's a, that's what I mean, because I'm not good with adult tech.

Starting point is 00:15:02 There's a huge rise right now in these companies to police all these platforms. What do you mean police? So this is like, like YouTube, like not having a real kid friendly stuff. That's the mom or the police is not the right word. These are private companies that are offering these services up.

Starting point is 00:15:20 So we need them dude. YouTube's fucked up. Oh yeah. That's exactly why it's creepers's exactly why it's doing so well. It's because a YouTube is having a hard time with policing of themselves or controlling it. And so what we're having is these other companies that are coming up as a second party

Starting point is 00:15:36 that will filter it out. So I think how it works. You know how big the consumer market is on YouTube that is kids? Yeah, that's what this, oh yeah. They're, this company, and they're being underserved and tech is definitely, I mean, what kid isn't like on tech these days? Well, hold on, this is brilliant actually because you have Nickelodeon which exploded when

Starting point is 00:15:56 we were kids. It was the first network for kids, remember that? Just for kids, yeah. Remember that and what crazy? All the shows are all directing this. You gotta know 100% exactly what they're they're building Yeah, yeah, they're YouTube for kids. They've already got a hundred million dollar evaluation, dude I mean there it's that's market I can't believe it's taking this long speaking speaking of Nickelodeon last night

Starting point is 00:16:14 I showed my son a classic do you guys you guys watch Nickelodeon when you're a kid? I love it. Yeah, that that slime Do you guys remember the show double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double, double It's an old skit show with kids acting out skits, and there's this one guy. And one of the common skits is they're at school in the cafeteria, and the cooks always putting something gross in their food. And then there's one guy where he's like, he's like, one of the kids will be like,

Starting point is 00:16:57 in front of a pole, and he's like a military guy, and he's gonna say, ready, aim fire, but the kid always tricks him to getting in front of the guns and saying, fire. And you remember that? I mean, kind of. Yeah, like a little bit. Was it like the edgy rebellious? It was for that time.

Starting point is 00:17:11 So when I put it on for my kid, I told my son, I'm like, oh, this was so inappropriate. And he watched, he's like, yeah, yeah. No, it's, I'm gonna pull it up. Now he's watching Rick and Morty. I feel like I remember. I'm gonna play the intro for you. And then we'll see if you guys...

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Starting point is 00:17:50 Wait, here was it. They're old. It was 90 or something, right? No, I think they were 80 right there. I think they were reruns when we watched them because I think they were filmed in like the 70s. Oh, shit. Okay.

Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, it goes back there. So it was old when we were kids. So it looks like it. At times, Justin, did you had something that was old when we were kids. So it looks like it times Justin Did you you had something that you wanted? I did so Speaking of reminiscing so here's a good transition. Oh that transition Hey there you had some you're gonna ring out there. Hey, yeah, so uh remember Barney. I mean who doesn't like I love you Of course, we all hated him So, uh, remember Barney? I mean, who doesn't like that? I love you. We do, of course. We all hated him.

Starting point is 00:18:26 Yeah. We actually had like parties, we talked about, you know, we killed. Anyways. So apparently the actor that played Barney, how old is he now? He's got to be, I mean, maybe, he's like, I feel like he's purple with a black guy. And, um, he, so here you go. So here's, here's the title for you of this, right? Former Barney, the dinosaur actor.

Starting point is 00:18:49 Now works as a controversial Tantric Sex Guru. What? What? Yes! Shut your face. What? So the hilarious part is all his clients, female. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:19:03 How do you become a Tantric Sex Guru? Exactly. How do you go to work for that? Yeah, I don't know, but to be just apparently people are opting in put how Google how to become a tantric sex guru Yeah, if there's a certification course. Yeah, so he's 52 years old. It'd be silly that we didn't take it And if there is no certification course, it'd be silly. We didn't start one. Yes. What guess what's in my title? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah him hand jobs. He was saying that like his acting skills like as Barney like helped prep him for this somehow and I'm like that's the creepiest thing. Like, I love. I love. He's all like, yeah. What is? What is? Now, I don't know anything about tantric sex. I thought I was just to say is okay based off of me totally guessing. But is it where you're supposed to prolong

Starting point is 00:20:07 the arousal period and not orgasm? Yeah. You said that very confidently, Adam. Well, because I know that much. I don't know much about you. Oh, okay. You get to like the threshold of the orgasm and then you pull back, right?

Starting point is 00:20:19 Is it? No, that's actually how you trained yourself to last longer. That's an old technique. But what is Tantric, this is a course right here. Yeah, this is Tantric Yoga. Tantric Yoga. I guess if, was this what Mike Bletsit

Starting point is 00:20:33 was talking about at one time? Maybe, you know, a lot of times I don't know what he's saying. So Tantric, I feel like if you put that in front of anything, you're gonna get more people wanting to do it. Oh yeah, you're gonna get $350. Do you know what I'm saying? Like if it's like, you know, hey come join my hit workout.

Starting point is 00:20:53 But it's Tantric. Yeah, oh today we're doing Tantric hit. Like everybody's, yeah. Oh wow. Yeah, it's should I bring a robe or what? I wanna know how you become a guru though. I think it's just self-proplanned. Because you can hold it the longest maybe?

Starting point is 00:21:08 Well that would be, I don't think so. I thought maybe he's got like super skills. I mean in our world, if you're a guru and so on like that, you have to put in, because what you're a master at what, 5,000 hours? Yeah, he's a key person. So a guru in about 10,000, 10,000 orgasms?

Starting point is 00:21:24 At least, is that what that would be? That would be, if you're doing the math. So a lot, three, six, six, six orgasms at least right that would be so doing the math So a lot three six. I don't know so trick so carry the one check this out. I have I know somebody who knows somebody This is how I protect their identity. Okay, who they means is me You guys yeah, I'm about to talk about somebody. Let's just call them mad. Um You guys know I'm about to talk about somebody does somebody. Let's just call them mad. Um Anyway, no, so I know somebody who knows somebody who so this this guy couple married nice people, but very Hippie-ish if you will so that's not full hippie, but ish Um no very so so they're way they're way issue It would be issue, you'd be very hippie.

Starting point is 00:22:05 Very hippie, right? So they're all the way on that side. So the guy, while they were married, nice people, the guy decided, I'm just gonna be celibate now. What? Yeah, like I'm just not gonna, like eh. Yeah, I'm not gonna have sex anymore. What?

Starting point is 00:22:21 Yeah, so he, because he felt like this was his, I don't know what it's path or whatever, like I'm going to do this to something about religious purposes. No, is that a religious thing? Something about him, I don't know, something like he believed in, like I'm going to not have sex anymore. So his wife is like, okay, so they just don't have sex. That's it. That's the end of it. That's the end of story. Put it in a closet. How old are they? In Barrier. They're like, well now they're probably in their late 30s. Oh, that's either that young. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:48 So they just decide. Cause I can get that if you're, I mean, how many, how many relationships kind of already do that already when you start getting into the late 40s and 50s? I mean, not much. Not healthy ones. Not healthy ones. Well, yeah, I was gonna say, you know how many clients I trained

Starting point is 00:23:01 where they were only having sex once a month. That's when you get that. Yeah, the separate bed thing. Yeah, dude, that's a real, that's a real fucking deal. I know people don't listen to only like 20 something or 30 something, you're going like, yeah, right? But it's more common than you think. Well, so they do a lot of fucking people.

Starting point is 00:23:15 Well, they're healthy people too. You know, and so here's the thing about the guy. He says after a while, he's sort of having wet dreams because your body has to, oh, that has to admit. That's awesome. Yeah, what? Now, they've the limit. That's the left foot. That's awesome. That's what, that had, that had been awesome

Starting point is 00:23:27 to have an adult wet dream. So did you have to get out of it in a wet dream? Did you guys ever get wet dreams? Yeah, man. I never really got it. Me neither. No, I didn't get in a wet dream. Do you know why you didn't get a lot?

Starting point is 00:23:36 Cause I imagine you were jerking off all times. I didn't get a lot. Because I didn't know how. Justin, Justin was like, we had a long time to figure out the technique. You did that. And a girl actually teach me. I told you guys this.

Starting point is 00:23:45 Did you? No, she taught me how to do it. One second, knowing Justin. Wait, wait, you probably heard of a selfie. Could you specify who that girl was? She was my girlfriend. Okay, what's your mom or anything? Oh my god, I do.

Starting point is 00:23:57 I'm so wrong with you. What's your mom? Adam is way too high. I know. That's not something something silver guy would say Man you're close to your mom You just put the image in my head like how dare you that's the most that's just so wrong I'm sorry I've never heard of my life. It's wrong. No, but you know, knowing Justin. We'll move on. Knowing Justin as well as we do, as I do now. For sure he didn't know what the fuck he was doing.

Starting point is 00:24:29 No, I did it. I had no idea. Oh, aggressive. So, so, so, make it a mess, you know,

Starting point is 00:24:36 using glue. Oh, it's not working. It's not working, man. So, Justin will do things sometimes. Yeah. And so we were in, when we were in LA, this is a great story. We're fucking So we were in L.A. This is a great story.

Starting point is 00:24:46 We're in L.A. And we podcasted hard in L.A. We went hard. We did a lot of work. We lived up to the shirt. We're about to go on a trip now. That's going to be like that. But anyway, Justin and Drew were all eating sushi

Starting point is 00:25:00 and they're like, oh, let's do a socky bomb. Does anybody else want to do a socky bomb? It was like, nah, we're cool. And by the way, Drew is like, oh, let's do a socky bomb. Does anybody else want to do a socky bomb? It was like, nah, we're cool. And by the way, Drew is like, you know, he's like 21 years old, right? He's like a kid, right? So they're sitting there, they got the socky bombs and they're like, they start to drink it.

Starting point is 00:25:15 Well, I don't know what came over Justin, but he's like, I'm gonna fucking balance this thing like I'm in a race. It just, it just, it's just brought it all back. He's just turned the whole cup upside down for no reason Just spilled it on a side to just like oh like if he was in a college He turned a cup upside down like it was a beer bomb Like it's like as if his mouth was all the way over the time

Starting point is 00:25:35 It's just weird like he was right next to me. He was drinking at the same time You know it's like no You know like put it all down and so that's it's competitiveness coming on and that's why said when he did it. I'm like that was that was he there's no one that's more I mean, he's the most Justin person I know and if you don't know what I'm talking about No, I definitely do my own thing when you get to know Justin you know what a Justin thing is to do like when he like when he eats food Yeah, like everybody is gross out when I do farmer blows and yeah, what's a farmer blow? Oh Yeah, like everybody gets gross out when I do farmer blows and yeah, what's a farmer blow? Oh You do that a lot. I'm nursing you do that. Thank God. It's not what I thought I wasn't you do that She hates when I do that. I thought it was something else. I was like, please God let it be

Starting point is 00:26:15 Everyone gets gross that when I blow a farmer. Yeah, so weird. I've never been able to do that What did the what he called a farmer? I didn't know it had it had a name for it. You tried it. Yeah, of course. I tried it after you fail like three times. I don't do no more. What do you what end up? It just yeah, it's just I don't care. It hankered chief on me.

Starting point is 00:26:34 You know, I think I think every I think every guy that's ever seen somebody do that at one point goes, fucking I do that. And then you try to do it and he's you get all over yourself. Yeah, they get it all over your shirt fucking. I got that technique down. You gotta have enough power.

Starting point is 00:26:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's all horsepower. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's 100% horse. You know what Justin, you bring up an interesting point. Yeah. I wonder if that'll ever come back. Hankerchiefs.

Starting point is 00:26:56 Hankerchiefs. Hankerchiefs. Yeah. Chiff. And pocket watches. Well, pocket watcher is like the steam punk thing. Yeah, but Hankerchiefs. That had its thing.

Starting point is 00:27:05 You know, why I think hatred is from that style? Because you blow your nose and then you save it. Yeah, I know that's gross. Yeah, you fold it and then like put it back in your pocket. Does it, does it back pocket? Does it dry and then it's good? Yeah, it dries and you don't use that side. Then you wash it.

Starting point is 00:27:18 Is that how it works? Oh, man. What, what, what do you do? Hey, your chiff. What do you mean? What do you do different? Do you know how people use them? They blow their nose and they pull it.

Starting point is 00:27:27 They pull it, they put it in pocket. You use it again or not and then you wash it. You know, won't you? Right, right. You didn't know that? Well, I did, but that's, now that I'm talking about it, it's kind of gross. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:37 My grandpa's all over the place. He has to kind of live with your own boogers, you know, like, in your pocket. Yeah, my grandfather had a handkerchief. You know what I mean? We did a lot of gross things back in the day before we could pull through to your thumb throw things You know what else is crazy what this guy Like he self-proclaimed the transitions are fire

Starting point is 00:27:54 Could you please smoke some more? Wasn't that wasn't that a good one? Just say it is a self-proclaimed time travel next day day, please, I'm gonna make a transition right? All right, this is the transition. This sounds interesting. You know what Eri's from? I'll give you a guess. Where? 3,300.

Starting point is 00:28:12 Oh wow. So he says he came from the year 3,000. He came from the year 3,000. Oh, fucking break it now. Was this guy got for us? He's like catastrophic future. Apparently, like there's one mother computer that basically is gonna to kill everybody.

Starting point is 00:28:27 Except for him. Except for him. Yeah. Well, he's coming. He's traveling back to warn us that the robots are going to take over. Yeah. Do you know how I know time travel will never happen? Why is that? Because we've never had refugees from the future. You know what I'm saying? Like, nobody's ever done that. that like nobody's ever come back. I'm like, all right everybody You fucked up right here Stop this experiment, you know what I mean? So that's why I feel like time travel has never Has never been invented. I always love listening to the details of these people that like you know They have all these claims and stuff like he said he was in the arm

Starting point is 00:29:01 We got drafted in the army and they were like all gold uniforms and Like he said, he was in the army, got drafted in the army and they were like all gold uniforms and like, what kind of acid or, you know, what was he on where he just like instructed all this, like, all the ideas and all this details. Have you ever got to talk to like a fortune teller or a medium or anyone like that before? No, I've always wanted to. I know. Because I like, we should do that. You have that.

Starting point is 00:29:20 Oh, that would be great. Yeah, I did. We should do that. Talk about it. You ready for some weird shit? I'll tell you some of the stuff. I know probably I always raise everybody. Everybody knows it's been to one Oh, no mine's really fucking weird. Yeah, so I did this back when I had my personal training studio and I asked a bunch of questions and we were talking and so I'm super

Starting point is 00:29:43 skeptical of this kind of stuff to the point where someone had bought me a gift certificate to talk to this lady, because they loved her. And when I called the lady up, she's like, oh, when would you like to come in? I said, actually, can I do this over the phone? What do you guys think I chose over the phone? Oh, yeah, she can't read in your body language. Yeah, because I'm thinking like these are experts

Starting point is 00:30:02 at reading body language and moving in there. But she can use Google thought you checking so I'm like This is back when I had my backfire No, no, no, this is back when I had my wellness studio. Come on man. There was no information on me at all the inner dude There was nothing there was nothing on Anyway, let me tell my story When she look upon Google you, you know what I mean? She might be like a hacker. You know, she can tell me some facts about real shit, but that's different.

Starting point is 00:30:32 So anyway, I did it over the phone so she couldn't read my body language. I was very quiet over the phone. I wasn't like, oh my god, or this and that. But when she was freaking me out, I covered the phone and I'd be like, holy shit. So she was telling me some weird stuff. So first she tells me about my relationship. Well, by the time I married, you know, at this time I married.

Starting point is 00:30:48 And she said stuff like, well, because as they're like, we're having a lot of trouble. Like what do you see there? Like what's going on? I actually know I didn't say we're having a lot of trouble. I said, what do you see in my future for my family? That's what I said. She says, well, you and your wife,

Starting point is 00:31:03 you know, you really care about your kids and that'll help you. And I'm like, what do you mean by that? That'll help us, she says, well, you know, you're probably not gonna be together. And I said, really? And so we went into that a little bit, which is kind of weird.

Starting point is 00:31:19 Then she went into a few other things that were very strange, but here's the weird thing. She said something to me that resonated, but I had no idea why it resonated. So while we're talking on the phone, she's paused as she's talking and she gets real excited. Now she says it's because she gets this information from, I don't know where, right?

Starting point is 00:31:36 So I'm like, oh, that's a nice act. But whatever, who knows, right? So she starts speaking to us. She gets this, she starts like screaming on the phone, getting excited and she goes, you, she goes, this is where I'm life. I have the notes because I know you cock suckers are gonna fucking think I'm like, I have the notes. I believe you're so aggressive. She says,

Starting point is 00:31:53 Sal, she goes, you're Oprah. This is on the minute, I'm like, what? She's like, you're just, you're gonna be just like Oprah. I'm like, what do you mean, you know, and it was resonating when she was saying this, she's like, you're gonna be just like Oprah. I'm like, what do you mean? And it was resonating when she was saying this, she's like, you're gonna be talking to people. This is what you're gonna do. You're gonna influence people, this and that and the other.

Starting point is 00:32:10 And I- And did they call you Oprah? Swarrow my life. Wow. And it was very weird, but I had no, I had no- Did you tell you where he just did? Yeah, well, I'm like, well, I wanna be a little man.

Starting point is 00:32:19 It's all that charisma coming through the phone, man. I barely said any words. How weird is that? And I have the notes and I saved them because I thought it was so strange. And now we have now of course, here's the thing about these types of things. They could be interpreted.

Starting point is 00:32:32 They could be interpreted just tonight. Dr. Oz, I'm Dr. Phil. Dr. Phil. Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil. So you know, you know what's, so here's the thing about this. We'll think doctor. Let's say she said I was, I'm gonna be like Oprah,

Starting point is 00:32:47 and then I end up liking poetry and wanting to help charities. And I'm like, oh my God, that's what she meant. So my point is, sometimes people will say these things, and if they feel right to you, you can almost justify or connect them to whatever. You know what I'm saying? Because it could be a lot of things

Starting point is 00:33:04 that I could do that would be like, it's like horse coaps, dude. it's like the way you read them like everyone's horse ropes like although mine is accurate No, not my horse power My pro-move please revisit justice theory I really like the Google like that she actually might have some Google skills I feel like I mean I think you have some Google powers some Google skills to get. I feel like, I mean, I feel like you have some Google powers you're not using, you know? What do you mean? I mean, like you can summon like things.

Starting point is 00:33:29 Information really quickly. I mean, you should use that. Yeah, she used that as a project. I do every day. Anyway. I'm telling you. Have you guys, so you guys have neither one of you have ever been to a psychic?

Starting point is 00:33:39 No. No, no, no. Nothing. But I know people that have, and everybody that has told me crazy stories. I know. I'm my sister-in and everybody that has told me crazy stories. I know. I'm my sister-in-law, who's the most skeptical.

Starting point is 00:33:48 I've actually never had somebody. I've never had somebody who's gone and seen one have been like, oh, that's a bunch of bullshit. Almost everybody's embarrassed. No one's gonna tell you the way to $100. Well, no, I would think that I've probably had somebody who actually went with that intention of, let's go try this out and been skeptical about it, you know, but.

Starting point is 00:34:07 Here's why I'm skeptical. I'm trying to think of somebody who's said. Here's why I'm skeptical because, first of all, we've never seen a news headline that said, psychic wins the lottery, never. Every time I've met a psychic, they're always like, what's your name? Tell me about yourself, like, why?

Starting point is 00:34:23 You know, and maybe it's not, maybe it doesn't work that way, right? Maybe you can't summon it that way. Right, right. But I do feel like, the way the way you should feel. Right now you should feel software though. You know what I mean? Like that's the direction.

Starting point is 00:34:33 My mind goes these days just because like now, if it's accurate, it's like, you could get so much information from Facebook alone on somebody to kind of piece it all together and like see who they're interacting with and like you could do that like fairly quickly Yeah, if I don't know how I don't know that there's I'm sure there's a difference between all of them right like a fortune teller versus a medium like I think Omedium believes that they are Communicating to the other side they're communicating to another dimension

Starting point is 00:34:59 And whether be your future self or relative to you or like that. Like that's their way of sharing. Now isn't, cause I know you guys are all, you know, team Jesus and stuff. Isn't that supposed to be bad? Aren't you supposed to not talk to people like that? Using the devil's powers. I mean, yeah, it wouldn't be ideal. It'd be being tempted, going somewhere like that

Starting point is 00:35:18 where you could be tempted. So you wanna go to a fortune teller, but you massive pussies will not do a Ouija board with me. That's different. The first thing, you know. Why is that different? It's just different. It's just like, what are you trying to say? Listen to you guys fumble.

Starting point is 00:35:31 It doesn't work. You know, like I've been in risk. No, because of this game. I'm all mad at you. At least when we were kids, bro. I'll buy it. I'll do it. What movie was that with a Ouija board?

Starting point is 00:35:39 Don't bring that kind of energy in here. What energy. What's wrong with you? What energy, bring it crystal. You believe in energy. Huh? It's a fucking energy game. You buy energy bring a crystal you believe in energy, huh? It's a fucking energy game you buy. It's I think it has bro makes it why you stuck on it, dude Hasbro scared about the same bill of be giving kids gummy bears are fucking are giving weegee boards out

Starting point is 00:35:55 I think it has bro doesn't sell gummy bears. Yeah, they do no has brothers a toy company. Yeah has bro does gummy bears too Oh Yeah, it has bro does gummy bears too. Oh Very close It's very like chronicles has bro. That sounds like a that sounds like a do that this waits from the past I want to bring a widgey board because I want to I think I Hold on a second no second you sorcery there's one group of people that have never let us wrong, okay? So I'd like to ask the audience if you think she's a widgey board and film it. No way. Just DM Adam. Yeah, so he knows your serious

Starting point is 00:36:47 Bring my I only got you know, by the way I made the mistake I think on the one of the last podcast to tell people that I answer all my DMs and then I got I got fucked for that one Why'd you lie? Yeah, I this. No, no, no. How you lie? Now I have a hard time. So if I said that, you just, and then now you reached out to me,

Starting point is 00:37:11 you and a bunch of other people, so it's taking me a while to get all the way. There's a little bit of a buzz going on right now. I feel like there's a lot more activity around the show. It seems like it. I mean, we went to, we just went to LA and went crazy. And now we're about to go to Tampa, which by the way, can we just tell the audience

Starting point is 00:37:26 how fuck up our travels? Oh, it's all over the place. We're gonna leave at like 9.45 pm. Yeah, from San Francisco. And arrive there at 6am. Yes. And then hop on another plane from Miami to Tampa. This is not, this is a terrible idea.

Starting point is 00:37:42 Yes. It's gonna be whatever. Pot challenging. But we podcast hard. Yeah, it's the thing, you know, here's a deal. Like we podcast harder than you're podcast. For you, for the fans. We could podcast harder than you're podcast. That's the new, the new tagline.

Starting point is 00:37:54 My heart is your podcast. You know what I mean? I like that. I like that. Speaking of hard, you know, chaga might be a libido booster. What did you hear that? Well, no, I've been taking the, the, the four-signatic chaga might be a libido booster. What did you hear that? Well, no, I've been taking the four-sigmatic chaga consistently. And I'm getting them chaga boners.

Starting point is 00:38:11 And yeah, I don't know, you know, I didn't know if that's something that it does. You know, here's the thing about the four-sigmatic supplements. There's a lot of supplements that I've tried all of them, okay, by the way. Very few will you notice actual effects from? The four sigmatic ones I do when I take them, I can tell something's happening. Now, I do cycle them because I do believe that your body does develop a tolerance

Starting point is 00:38:36 to anything that has an effect on you. Like, anything you take that you feel, theoretically, your body will try to adapt to it by reducing the effect. So I cycle, so I was doing the lion's mane, right? That's what I was doing a lot of, which was just a great, neutropic. I combine lion's mane, caffeine, and if I really want to go crazy, throw some ketones and some CBD in there, and then I'm brilliant, or just lying to me, but it's the selling point right there. So that's what I was doing for a little while. Now I'm on to Chaga, and I love the immediate

Starting point is 00:39:13 relaxing effects of Chaga. It's not sleepy though, it's kind of like this calm feeling, so I'm not so irritated at all at all times, so I have it, and I feel like I'm gonna get me on that one. But now I've been taking Chaga now consistently for, I feel like I've been pretty calm lately. Seven you are. You're a lot more comfortable. I feel like I'm teasing you. We have a chill. We actually haven't had a major, you know, disagreement. Remember, we used to have them out on the show all the time.

Starting point is 00:39:32 No, we had a few episodes. Way back in the days. No way, yes. It was like a handful. Well, yeah, you're right. There's probably about a hand. But anyway, Chaga, good stuff for boners. And you're right, you know, but we did.

Starting point is 00:39:43 There was a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. We had a lot of fun. If you episode way back way back in the days, no way. Yes, it was like a handful. Yeah, well, yeah, you're right. Okay, there's probably about a hand. But anyway, Chaga, good stuff for boners. And you're right, you know, but we did. There was a couple episodes where we were a little bit back and forth. Yeah, and then the form got all. Yeah, everybody gets all.

Starting point is 00:39:57 Yeah, really, really worried. Okay, gang wars right away. Bloods and crypts all sense separately. It's like, whoa, dude, chill out. We should do that. We should come up with a topic that we actually really disagree on and then debate it on the podcast.

Starting point is 00:40:11 Well, a lot of times too that there's shoes. When I'm, yeah. But that's a stupid debate. You know what I mean? See, it's you, maybe not to Adam. Well, I mean, it's his expertise. I don't care. Oh, I wouldn't say I'm an expert at all.

Starting point is 00:40:25 I think compared to me, compared to me, you're a genius with shoes. I don't even know what I'm wearing right now. You know what I mean? What are these converse? I think they're converse. Isn't it funny how there are certain things though that people are really passionate about

Starting point is 00:40:36 and then other people just don't give two shits about and there are certain things in your life that you're extremely passionate about? I find that really fascinating. How we're so unique and different like that. Well, yeah, like I got excited about my old encyclopedia set that you guys made a fun of. It looks so cool up there.

Starting point is 00:40:49 Right, great. I was, can I tell you something? That's why people don't think I'm confrontational because I just, like the topics that we're arguing, I don't care. Yeah, I'm still waiting. You're still waiting on the one that I care about. I don't care about fitness.

Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah, I care about fitness. But we don't argue about that. It's always some other weird thing. Well, why don't you say something that you think is controversial? And then me and I will try to be fit. I know, I don't think you have to. You don't have too many things that we do.

Starting point is 00:41:12 You know what it is? The big, what it is is that we're really convincing. And so Justin's just waiting to see who he sides with. Yeah, I wait to form an opinion for the last part. He does. After we're done, he's always actually. I think it's a pretty, it's an all-take size. It's a pretty size after the argument., he's always actually. I think it's always pretty exciting. And I'll take sides.

Starting point is 00:41:25 It's a pretty exciting after the argument. It's pretty even split, I think. We're winning Justin over. You guys are always working on this. I've noticed I go in the line, like, no, he's going to go in my line, dude. You guys are like betting back before something like what I'm going to do. I can try to fucking manipulate me. I started that because I know how you are.

Starting point is 00:41:44 You always, because you got in line with Adam, so like, oh, you're just going to follow Adam. I started that because I know how you are You always because you got in line with Adam so like or just gonna follow Adam and I Know that so fine. It's my psychology so hard I was like I don't want to fucking have preferential shit over here I'm my own man and I'll it all started when you referred to Sal is the best closer. I knew it That was it I started three years ago. I'm wondering what happened. It's Sal pigeonholed you into answering that and I thought you mother fuckers. You know what happened?

Starting point is 00:42:09 Like if I had gone the other direction, Sal, it like you would have just been jabbing at me like forever. It's you know what? Well, I knew Adam could take it. And you would have had to have, you would have had to live with yourself for being dishonest.

Starting point is 00:42:20 You're such an honest person. You're integrity, you're integrity's top line. I love how you spin everything. Dude, you're so good at it. You're integrity. You're integrity's top line. I love how you spin everything, dude. You're so good at it. You know, the guy can't lie. It's what it is. It's what it is. That's right, I'm like.

Starting point is 00:42:32 Adam will never like live that day. Abraham Lee. Because like he hired you, right? Justin, so you were like his dude. Yeah, well that's the thing. So you're in with Adam so he's already this like, he heard you say that. He was like, as hard as like,

Starting point is 00:42:43 he's like, no. No, no. Not by Justin. Can, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, personally enjoyed it. I thought it was a great conversation. It's this conversation right now is reminding me of that. And so I'm like, man, our form was... That was it was a little crazier, but yeah. Two old friends. It was two old friends. So here I'll break it down for everybody. So they know that way,

Starting point is 00:43:15 when you don't listen to it, you'll be even more angry. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that used to so I both of them worked for me and then one of them worked with Adam and then the other one became good friends with Adam So me and Adam are really good friends with these two guys. They also happen to be two of the best Absolute best sales people and humans and humans great people, but also great sales guys super charismatic But also off the wall and when when we all get together none of it We didn't all four hang out together ever. Yeah, so that's the first time we were all together. And if you guys, like listening right now,

Starting point is 00:43:50 you hear me and Adam go off sometimes, and we don't wanna shut up. Now throw two more versions of those people in the room, and you have me, Adam, Larry, and Jason, who are good friends, and it just went off, and then we started telling stories, and it got super inappropriate. That's where I started it, fine. Super inappropriate, super terrible.

Starting point is 00:44:08 Well, I think why, so we have a lot of four members that have listened to the old episodes, where we used to tell a lot of Jim stories. We haven't told you. Yeah, we, for a shit, I mean, I wanna say the first 100 something episodes, it seemed like every week we were doing Jim stories, where we shared old stories that people love.

Starting point is 00:44:23 We haven't done something like that. Well, this episode was, that episode was like that. It was just, you know, one, all of our experiences working together and some shit that, I forgot some of the stuff, man, Larry and Jay both brought up some things that I had, oh man, I've forgotten all about that. Oh boy, it got really crazy. But anyway, good friends of ours, excellent salespeople, totally different, by the way. These two guys are totally different in their sales approach. Yeah, but they're both very effective. So we had a little pissing contest between the four of us, who's the best communicator or whatever.

Starting point is 00:44:53 It's pretty funny. But I did convince everybody to say Jason, so I think I won that. Just kidding. Bring on the bird, Doug. Or we got thrive on boxing. Yeah, we got a box here. Oh, let's see what you got here. So last week we had a keto box. Like, that box looks the bird Doug. Oh, we got thrive on box. Yeah, we got a box here. Oh Let's see what you got here. So last week we had a keto box like this box looks light Doug Yeah, smaller than the other ones

Starting point is 00:45:11 This this is smaller one. We just have three items only in it Oh, so I ordered off the keto menu at thrive market Mm-hmm, and I kind of went the dessert sweet angle. Oh shit So let's open it. Open up the box. Is it gonna melt? Well it melt? Yeah, it could melt if you left it out in the car.

Starting point is 00:45:30 Oh okay. Throw that over here Doug. Yeah so the first thing is the original fat fudge. Oh I love this stuff. Oh just right there. It has grass-fed butter to eat cow. It's got a coffee in it. And you can either take it you know,

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Starting point is 00:46:27 But I was, it would be bludged. We're off the chain, sorry. Yeah, no worries. We've got mint cream coconut butter cups from eating evolved. Oh my god. Is there dairy in those darks? I wanna try them.

Starting point is 00:46:38 Let's see here, I just see if I can get the ingredients here. There is no dairy. Oh, oh man's all coconut. And then the final thing we have here is Coco nut protein bars by exo. So you know what that means? If they're from exo. They're are they on it? No, that's the ones in kisses. No, they contain cricket. Oh! These are cricket bars. That's the...

Starting point is 00:47:10 Okay, that's what that means. You guys try that one, I'll take it. The bug bars? I like cricket protein. Yeah, so that's... You guys throw all over the chips, man. You know what? You know what's brilliant about the cricket products?

Starting point is 00:47:21 What? Like, they'll never get a return because you find an insect in them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, like you find it. There's a cricket in my chin. And they'll be like, no, we added protein. That's what it is to bump it up. You'll find a third dad joke with the day there.

Starting point is 00:47:34 But also what he did on the tear. When we were driving to lunch, what did he say? Oh, no, search for an account? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I said, don't rent a car from there. It's painful because it's fun. You know, if my kids would love that joke. Yeah from there. It's painful because it's you know if my kids would love that joke You sure they would yeah, all right, so now bring on the the bird please

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Starting point is 00:48:29 That's the answer. However, if you are 85% of it, if you're going to lean on the fact that, if you total buys, probably going to do you better. Yeah, this is just a general estimation. And you know, it's funny. I read a few articles on this one. I was first putting out the maps program because I wanted to see how many people have talked

Starting point is 00:48:47 about comparing the two programs, at least in modern coaches. And I can't remember where the article was, but I found an article and there were I think eight strengthen conditioning coaches, very well-known ones. And every single one of them agreed that the vast majority of people will build the most muscle strength and get the best performance out of a full body routine. In my estimation, probably eight or nine out of every ten people that I've ever trained do better on a full body program. And those are the people who are more seriously interested in building muscle. If I include all my average clients, it's more like 95% where full body works best.

Starting point is 00:49:27 So for most people, it's just more effective. And one of the main reasons why is that a body part split simply doesn't send a muscle building signal frequently enough to the muscles. So if I hit chest on one day and back on another day and shoulders on another day, it's gonna take me seven days if I hit chest on one day and back on another day and shoulders on another day, it's gonna take me seven days before I hit that same body part again and resistance training is quite,

Starting point is 00:49:54 there is a general effect, but there is obviously a very localized effect. In the words, if I just train my biceps, my biceps will grow and I won't get any growth in my calves. So you have to hit the body parts more frequently for most people than once every seven days. Well, I also feel it's split. It's way easier to over-intensify your workout sessions to where it leads you like where you're just repairing damage, you know, the rest of the days in between and it goes back to that old way of thinking that like getting really super sore

Starting point is 00:50:25 is a good thing as opposed to then adapting versus repair damage. So you know, total body workouts, it just, it just, if you know that tomorrow I have to do another one, you know, you're already have that reserve to, you know, overextend yourself, overexert yourself. So why does it have to be like an either or though, you know, you're already have that reserve to, you know, overextend yourself, overexert yourself. So why does it have to be like an either or though, you know, like a point, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't feel like it and this needs to be an either or I think that understanding the, the benefits of the full body, the major benefits you're

Starting point is 00:50:57 getting is what Sal saying is the frequency that you're going to get. So, but maybe you really like the body parts split because it works with your schedule and you enjoy that and it's easier If you just to focus on a couple body parts at a time I mean you could do like a push pull type of split where you're still gonna hit every muscle group two to three times in a week And that could be extremely if someone can have a lot of success because that's the real issue, right? It's not that it's full body right. It's that you're hitting the muscles More frequently than once a week, which body parts splits

Starting point is 00:51:26 are typically each body part once a week. So could you do a split that takes advantage of more frequency? Absolutely. In fact, if we were to program a split, that's what it would do. We would make sure we took care of frequency because frequency is extremely important.

Starting point is 00:51:41 Because we know that when you lift weights, if I hit my chest, we know that the muscle protein synthesis rates goes up right afterwards and spikes at like 48 to 72 hours, but then it drops very quickly. So if it's three days after I hit my chest, but I still have four days more until I hit my chest, that muscle building signal now is dropping, and not only does it drop, it drops quickly,

Starting point is 00:52:04 and then it goes down below baseline because your body is always adapting. It's either trying to, so muscles are building or they're shrinking. They don't really maintain, if you want. It happens on a microscopic level. So sometimes it builds, sometimes it shrinks, and so you end up staying around the same,

Starting point is 00:52:19 but that's kind of how it works. So if you hit your body parts once a week, the odds are it's just not frequent enough. Now, the big question is this, because I guarantee these people listening right now are like, well, then why do bodybuilders work out like, why is the body parts split the most common training system or program then for bodybuilders? Like, what is it about the split and bodybuilding then if it's not the best for building muscle?

Starting point is 00:52:48 Well, the people that represent bodybuilding that we hear from are typically the better bodybuilders. So we don't hear from people who train like a bodybuilder but never step on stage and don't really look that good. Right, I would venture to argue that most of those bodybuilders have pretty damn good genetics that they could almost do whatever they want and they're going to still build. I wouldn't be surprised if their muscle building signal spiked and stayed elevated for two or

Starting point is 00:53:14 three times longer than the average person. I met a lot of pros and got a chance to kind of see like how some of these guys train and stuff. And there's a lot of them that use mainly gear to change their size up or down. They would just add certain anabolic to get bigger. It wasn't done in their program. Their routine stays the same, like all the time. And it's crazy. And it's all based off intensity, maybe during prep time,

Starting point is 00:53:42 they pick it up and they go harder or what about that? Or just add sets of reps, but there's no real rhyme or reason. And their bodies are, their bodies aren't really changing much whatsoever. I think there's a lot of room for, for body parts splits to evolve even in the, the bodybuilding community. I think it's, well, the old school, even the ones that, and the ones that don't that see great results really understand programming. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:54:04 The bodybuilders that I met that were pros that you, and the ones that don't, that see great results, really understand programming. The good, the bodybuilders that I met, that were pros that you would see, I could see their body change show after show, because you could test tell that they have this, for them, you had other guys, that kind of looked the same all the time. Every show, their fizziques weren't progressing. And I knew they were taking more and more drugs,

Starting point is 00:54:20 so technically, if they're taking more drugs, and they're, and the one variable they changed, right? That was added more to us. That was it, it was that, that are more drugs and they're the one variable they changed right that was added That was it was just it was that that are more intensity and more cardio I mean those were the variables that they manipulated nobody really dives into the programming so I'm just and of course This is a total overgenonization that sound I are both saying but I would venture to say that a lot of those guys Would even benefit it from to them just in frequency both then what the frequency. Both, and what would you think about too, if you've always done split to change it up

Starting point is 00:54:48 and just do a total body focus, our vice versa. Right? If you always did total body workouts, doing a split to give you a different stimulus as well. It's just a frequency thing, because I did experiment not too long ago with hitting a body part one so weak and sure enough you just you know I like the pump I got like the volume but I do that's you know that's the big thing that everyone hangs on to it's the pump

Starting point is 00:55:14 yeah that especially in the bodybuilding community it's all about the pump like everybody is chasing the pump like you keep focusing on that one body part that you can just that's what they yeah that's what they that you can just and he's the max. No doubt you get the best pumps on his plant. That's what they talk about, but I mean, that's just one factor in building muscle. It's not the only factor. And when you're so adapted to getting pumped all the time, I would fit you to say that the benefits that you got

Starting point is 00:55:37 from it are a lot different than when you got the first pump a year ago, you know. And there's techniques you can use to get a better pump anyway. You don't have to do a shit ton of volume to squeeze techniques you can use to get a better pump. Anyway, you don't have to do a shit ton of volume to, you know, squeeze blood into a muscle and get a get a better pump. I remember when I first switched over to because I didn't go from a straight split to full body. I went from a typical bro split one body part a day to a split where I paired up

Starting point is 00:56:00 certain body parts and hit each body part twice a week. Then from there, I went to full body. And each time I did that, because I remember when I first switched over, it was like, let's see, it was, it was years ago, I was getting ready to go to Italy to visit family. And I wanted to get really fit because my whole family there knows I'm in fitness. So I want to look really lean. So I started watching my nutrition and I, and I wanted to experiment with training more frequently By the way, old-time bodybuilders always trained more frequently even as late as the 70s

Starting point is 00:56:30 You know in 80s Arnold Schwarzenegger Hit a split but he hit his body parts three times a week So if you look at his old routines it was three times a week It was a double split routine is what he did where he had two body parts in the morning and two at night or something like that A one at night and he still did a lot of frequency. So it's relatively recent where we did this whole one body part of a day type of thing. But I switched over to this, and I'll never forget I got more muscular and leaner than I'd ever gotten before.

Starting point is 00:56:58 Now, one thing that I recognized when I switched was I, that's when I learned about going to failure. That's when I learned that I needed to maybe not go to failure as often because I couldn't because I was hitting it so frequently. And that's eventually later on what led me to understanding that not going to failure more often than not would benefit me. But I, and then I remember switching to the full body. And man, when I switched to full body routine, it was that weak I got stronger, like that weak.

Starting point is 00:57:26 I literally went two, three workouts, I'm lifting and boom, all of a sudden stronger, all of a sudden feeling better. And if you've been working out and lifting weights for a long time, and you feel something. You know, yeah, it's a big deal. I know, I know within, I could do a workout, and I'll know, oh wow, there's something to that, right away.

Starting point is 00:57:43 And that's how it was for full body forming. And I never look back since. And everybody I've ever recommend do this that I know personally, like my cousin Gabriel, my cousin Alex, I've had my cousin Giuseppe do it, my brother, my cousin Gabriel is a good example. Good genetics, builds decent amount of muscle. And the reality is, is people just aren't doing

Starting point is 00:58:03 enough frequency. If they were, if they were, you were hitting six pounds. Right. If you were running a split where you're hitting every muscle three times a week, then you're, but I, in my experience, most people that set themselves, they set a plan out to do that, but then they end up having a day off or something happens to where they can't hit every single week like that and the volume drops down. So what's that?

Starting point is 00:58:23 If you could just get the frequency up, I think that running a split could be just as beneficial too. So I don't think it's either or. Next question is from Tristan A. Branch. Do you guys have any advice for someone who wants to start their career as a trainer with the ultimate goal of opening a gym? There's only one business that has a fail rate that's worse than opening a restaurant

Starting point is 00:58:44 and that's opening a gym. Is that true? I don't know. I feel like it is. Oh, boy, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. So, I'll feel like it is. I feel like it is.

Starting point is 00:58:55 Yeah. I have a feeling I go with it. It's a new spiritual side of me. I tell you. That's what the unfortunate teller told you. Yeah, I know. My experience with this is, I've owned a gym, I've ran gyms, I know what the numbers look like, I know the business pretty well.

Starting point is 00:59:12 I would consider myself a veteran of the gym business. And let me tell you, when a large company, first of all, like 24 fitness, 24 fitness with all of their money and marketing and resources 25 million a year would give themselves two years before a gym would start to break even. That's a club with fucking marketing power and brand name behind it. In fact, 24-Fitness was not fond of doing a ground up gym. They didn't like doing building gyms from scratch. They, what their strategy was, which was an effective one,

Starting point is 00:59:49 was to take over a gym that already had a base because it's so hard to make sure I'm up all that business. It's hard both ways, but it's extremely hard when you start from scratch. You know what I mean, open a gym. Profitability-wise, like do the math. Like you open up a 25,000 score foot facility. You're gonna pay, I don't know,

Starting point is 01:00:08 what part of the country you'll be in, but anywhere between how many trainers do you guys know personally? I mean, I can probably count close, I want to say close to like 10 maybe. Oh shit, I'm way like 50. Oh, yeah, at least that one. That went to their own gym.

Starting point is 01:00:22 Yeah, that went to go do their own gym and it's, yeah, you know, you say over 10, I don't know. Yeah, I'm probably around 10, but you know more because you manage training the whole world. Yeah, man, there's a lot. And how many of them have been successful? And I can count on one hand, the ones that are successful.

Starting point is 01:00:41 Now, when you say successful, do you mean doors to open? Or profitable are just making it what? I happen yes I and I don't know any that are making it really happen I mean the ones that I know that are successful they're doing what they love they pay their bills and they they have by no means like Yeah, they're not ballin at a control. None of them are living in you know multi-million dollar how no one's killing it right? That's you don't I don't, I don't know anybody personally. And they're always there, right?

Starting point is 01:01:07 Always there. Yeah, so I think, I know a lot of the failed. But here would I, but the ones that do, we crush this person's dream. No, no, no, yeah, I know. I think, no, I think we just, it's more about being more honest with yourself. And it's because some people, if you are this person,

Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm not this person. I'm not that, like I have bigger ambitions for myself, right? But some people would rather be like that way. Have your own gym, only really responsible for yourself for a couple of trainers. Be the gym all day. Yeah, be the gym all day. It's like the old bar owner. Exactly. It's like that. Like if you're not driven by money very much or you don't have certain financial goals where you want to be and you're realistic with that, I think it's and you're realistic with that. I think it's a fucking awesome thing to potentially have and do.

Starting point is 01:01:48 But I know I made a promise to myself that we would never open up or I would never open up a gym like the one we have here until I had built a business that doesn't need to survive off of those doors being open, right? So we don't even use this facility for any sort of revenue. We don't make any revenue off of it whatsoever, and that's how I wanted it when I think all of you are the same way too. It would cost this more money to even try.

Starting point is 01:02:12 Do you think maybe even like going the franchise route would be a better strategy if you were to accumulate, you know, enough capital yourself and then invest in something you thought was gonna take off versus starting your own from scratch. I looked into it and the success rate with franchises is always higher. It just is because it's a pretty good thing.

Starting point is 01:02:31 And I know more guys that have been successful doing this one on time. I know some guys that did the, what was the automated gyms? I almost did that. Like that, but it's not that one. Yeah, so one of the, you know, did a couple of those. What was the time fitness?

Starting point is 01:02:44 Yeah, a lot. Yeah, so one of the, you know, did a couple of those. Uh, I'm fitness. Yeah, I'm a lot of those are popular. Yeah, anytime fitness, um, orange theories, of course, there's, yeah, that's not saying 15 of those fuckers. That's, that's what I'm saying. Like you, if you, you know, with the franchise, they give you a plan. They have, it's all systems are set up. It's organized. And then you have the brand, you know, name kind of pushing people in.

Starting point is 01:03:04 But then you're stuck with, you don't, you don't have a flexibility. It's like you want, you can't pay, you know, you have the brand name kind of pushing people in. But then you're stuck with, you don't, you don't have the flexibility, it's like you want, you can't pay, you know, you have to pay a fee every month. Well, if you think about it, it's the same. You know, owning your own business, it's starting from scratch, you have even less flexibility.

Starting point is 01:03:16 And then, and the reality is, like if you, you have to get to gym two, three, and four before you start gym, because each one, a small box gym, is not gonna make you more than about 70 grand to 150 grand a year tops right so and if you have more that's if you're good right that's if you're really good that's you're very successful if you're hitting those numbers right then so it's going to take gyms two and three before you start getting into the quarter to a half

Starting point is 01:03:39 a million dollars and the success rate from somebody taking one to two, it is- Here's the way I look at it. Fucking a motherfucker. Here's the way I look at it. The cost, the money you have to invest to get one open is substantial. That's number one. Now, I know CrossFit's back in the day. You could open one up for like 20 grand in a warehouse,

Starting point is 01:03:59 but those days are over. It's a lot more difficult nowadays. So even if you open a box, I could CrossFit Box, you're probably gonna spend close to six figures just getting it open or more right 100 or more thousand dollars Just to get the doors open now you want to try a big box gym You want to try and do a 20,000 square foot or 25,000 square foot gym on your own? You're going to spend a million dollars getting it open getting equipment Running it you're going to need money to pay yourself and your staff while you're running it.

Starting point is 01:04:26 And then the cost, the way the gym industry works, it's such a low cost high volume business where you've got 35,000 square foot facilities that are equipped to the gills. So I mean, cool, it's a cozy shower, steam room, basketball court that are charging 20 bucks a month. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:04:46 And you got to compete with that. And that means you got to get thousands and thousands and thousands of members to pay you 20 bucks a month so that you can meet your now, where 50,000 dollars a month. Here's where I see it smart. Like, okay, so we just went down and we just visited with Bradley Martin.

Starting point is 01:05:03 Like, this guy has got a, you know, two million following on Instagram. I'm sure at least a few hundred thousand of those are from LA. So this guy opens a gym in LA and it's a badass gym and he probably spends probably a mill, probably plus just building it all out. And you know, he's going to have enough traffic from his Instagram to at least pay the bills. But I guarantee you, we went down there and I saw the traffic in there that he's not even murdering out of there. I mean, there's, I know what a full gym looks like and I can tell

Starting point is 01:05:31 if it's how much it's cranking out just by the traffic at prime time hours. It's a tough situation. We were there during prime hours, you would be able to tell. It's a tough situation because on the one hand, like if you're really, if you're first of all, if you're a trainer and you want to open a gym, you're probably really serious about working out, right? So you want to have a gym that really is

Starting point is 01:05:48 catered like fitness people, but here's a problem with fitness people, they're the worst customers because fitness people really don't care about much, but whether or not you have equipment and they're going to use the hell out of your gym. Three C's. And the gym industry's already identified this.

Starting point is 01:06:01 They know this. They cost convenience and cleanliness. And they've seen this. They've seen that fitness people aren't money makers, so fuck them. What we want is the people who are gonna pay us and not show up type of deal. It's a tough business.

Starting point is 01:06:15 My advice to you is if you're in, if you're becoming a trainer and you wanna stay in the fitness industry, either start evolving to the virtual world. Virtual or become a good private trainer, which is a little, which is easier than opening a gym and being successful, but not easy, still hard. Or go work for a large fitness corporate organization

Starting point is 01:06:35 and move your way up the ladder there, and you can do pretty well. Oh, I think that's the most sound advices to really go through the process. If you have never done it before and like you do Want to own a gym or like that's like you have to start from from somebody that's a well or oiled machine That can actually model like the systems for you otherwise you have no idea what the timing is with the how to deal with volume that comes in all of a sudden and Staffing imagine someone opening a gym who'd never Managed a successful gym for at least a few years.

Starting point is 01:07:07 Well, that's a nightmare. Yeah, it is, it's a monster. Who was it? Oh, it's Kaleepa, we're talking about it. He has like 30 something, right? 30 something gym. That's the same. That's the same, of CrossFit boxes.

Starting point is 01:07:16 Right, to make a couple of mill. It's like, I mean, I think he had 35 or something like that. A lot of management. Yeah, and some overseas. Yeah. That's so much work to make that. You can make that a lot of different ways in the fitness industry. I mean, a lot easier than that.

Starting point is 01:07:31 We're podcasting now. There's new forms, there's new mediums out there that you could actually explore and actually reach more people, more volume of people, get your message out and capture that and monetize it. So, I think there's just a lot more opportunities we didn't have before going through that process where, you know, the ultimate goal was the gym. I always try and ask myself, you know, 10 years from now, do I believe too a lot of people, will they still be working out in gyms or will it be cool to go outside more or will we

Starting point is 01:08:01 have some cool virtual reality inside your house that's so badass, like, you know, so Jim's, I feel like I'm gonna get even more elaborate, right? Especially when I'll tell you when, you wanna know when that'll explode, when self-driving cars become a big thing, right? Because everybody has a garage and you don't need a parker car in a garage.

Starting point is 01:08:17 What are you gonna do with it? Convert it to a gym. That's a gym, man. Right, yeah. That's a perfect place to put. Yeah, I don't know. So that's, if I'm a trainer coming up in the business right now, I'm thinking a lot of things like that besides just...

Starting point is 01:08:28 There is a side to me that's like, if I didn't have kids and I was thinking about it. It's the owning bar thing. That's the perfect analogy. I sleep in the gym. I totally, if you want to just do it for that reason, go for it. Right, because you're here and all of us talk all this shit

Starting point is 01:08:41 right now, but then don't be surprised if you see us in three to five years have a gym, right? And it's just, but it's all for fun. It would not be, we would not go into it like to make money. It would be going into it because like the bar, I wanna see our friends and work out and it'd be a cool place, all for mind pump people to come by.

Starting point is 01:08:57 That's why we would do it. Next question is from Michael Salsal. What is your opinion on getting girls as a motivation to work out and build a nice physique? Can a terrific motivation be as good as intrinsic motivation? So you know, it's a good question because I know a lot of guys are really girls. Start working out for this particular reason. Is it going to motivate you to exercise?

Starting point is 01:09:24 It will. Is that the right kind of motivation or long lasting motivation? No. I mean, what do you do once you get the girls then? Keep working out to keep them. Why are you so, why is this such a big deal to you? What do you feel? Maybe you don't feel good about yourself.

Starting point is 01:09:40 How about exercising, not worrying about about getting girls feeling the confidence you get I think getting the girls is just a byproduct I think it always comes back down to because I'm sure I when I was this when I was 17 19 years old I probably thought that that was my motivation, but it was really more about myself It was really my own insecure. Yeah, because I mean I remember being a That's what girls are before the tracks before I ever worked out I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that.

Starting point is 01:10:07 I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that.

Starting point is 01:10:15 I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that.

Starting point is 01:10:23 I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I don't know how to get into that. I was a skinny boy in comparison. Now that was what I felt being a late teen early 20s was looking at other men that were 18, 19, 20 and I just was very small. I was small, skinny and I didn't feel. So I think, sure, the macho thing would be talking about getting girls, but I think in reality, I was probably really comparing myself to other men,

Starting point is 01:10:45 and that's really what drove the insecurity to live. Unless you're like, like really unhealthy, there's more effective ways of attracting girls' attention, I think, than working out. Except for the fact that, it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. Yeah, no, it doesn't hurt.

Starting point is 01:11:00 It doesn't hurt, and working out does one thing, and this is the reason why I think sometimes we want to go out. And they get girls, it's because the builds are confident. I was just gonna say that. I was just gonna say that, because you'd be surprised, like half of it is not just a physique.

Starting point is 01:11:14 It's that when everyone gets confident, yeah, when you get super ripped with that, you walk with your chest up, your head up. Exactly, your posture is good. You can learn to do all those things. I levels good. Yeah, that's tough. First, they pick up on that.

Starting point is 01:11:24 The guy at the bar who's super jacked with a tight t-shirt, but is kind of weird and not charismatic, doesn't do very well with the girls. Just doesn't. In fact, I've heard girls make fun of that guy many, many, many times. So it's the confidence that really does it. And working out will do that.

Starting point is 01:11:40 It can do that, right? It can also do the opposite though. It will give you this big inflated ego, make you act like an asshole or feel like an asshole. But here's the thing, when it comes to your motivation for working out, at the end of the day, if it's extrinsic, you're always gonna be focused on something outside of you.

Starting point is 01:11:59 I think at some point that can end. I think you can be extreme. I think you can if you are looking at like aesthetic, right? Looking at a fear of physique, like, and if you looked at it like a piece of art, like you're trying to build or sculpt something, there is definitely a part of me that felt this, that I never felt it before until I competed,

Starting point is 01:12:22 which, and I never had this. I never looked in the mirror and went like, oh, I'm not, my chest isn't there. It wasn't until, I, which, and I never had this. I never looked in the mirror and went like, oh, my chest isn't there. It wasn't until, I'm like, definitely. Like, I feel like that's what some boy would do. If he's like, all sad about not having a chest, right? So it would sound something like that. Like, you know, so I don't know.

Starting point is 01:12:38 Well, then again, maybe not maybe. I've definitely went through my time of being insecure about my calves. I went through that for a while Didn't you say you were looking at the calf implants? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So did you actually talk to somebody about that? Yeah, I did. I was yeah, $3,500 per calf No total back then. Oh, yeah, that was like total back then But it was like really new then too. So I was a little scared man. I was scared to good thing

Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah, I'm so glad you didn't do that dude, right? I wouldn't be able to hang out with you I was scared to do that. I'm so glad you didn't do that, dude. I wouldn't be able to hang out with you. It'd probably be like shifted a little bit. Well, I mean, again, that just shows you how insecure I was about, but I think when I competed, I'm 30 years old at this time, right, when I'm competing. So I have a total different outlook on my physique. And I think I had a very healthy relationship with it too.

Starting point is 01:13:22 Like, when I was building, I was not, when I would look at my physique in the mirror, I would really be like, this is me applying all the science that I understand and know from all these years, that I never have truly done to this level, and I could visually see it. This is fucking cool. And I got off on that.

Starting point is 01:13:39 I thought that was, and I had a very, very objective, like way of looking at it, where I, when I looked at my physique, it wasn't feeling inadequate or insecure. I was like, oh shit, wow, when I actually increased my volume, did this, did that. I could actually see my shoulders now are popping out more, right?

Starting point is 01:13:57 So I don't think there's anything. That's been a student of it, you know? Yeah, right. So I think that was healthy. I don't feel like that. I wasn't attached to that. I could let go of that. No, I mean, just that was healthy. I don't feel like that wasn't attached to that. I could let go of that. No, I mean, just the way that, I don't know,

Starting point is 01:14:07 look, I don't know what this person is, who's asking the question. But I'm just saying that that's an example of where it could be okay and healthy I could see, right? Yeah. I tell you what, if you can be totally douchey, first of all, working out, working out, working out is good for you.

Starting point is 01:14:19 You move better, you're stronger, it helps boost your confidence. So do it because of those things. If it's about getting girls work on your social skills, that will yield you way better results. If goal-learn had to talk to girls, goal-learn how to improve your charisma, get ready your fear, there's an art to it or whatever. It's all deprecating. Yeah, it's all that works. That's my move. I thought you said self-deficating. Yeah, it's all, it works well. What? Oh yeah. It's my move.

Starting point is 01:14:45 I thought you said self-deprecating. Yeah. Definitely not. Not that. That doesn't work. That's a move. That one actually. It's a repellent.

Starting point is 01:14:53 Next question is from Ringo the Flamingo. You are hungry. That's a great name, man. If you are hungry and have no other options except process crappy food, what's better? Not eating any food at all or eating processed crappy food. Not eating at all. Yeah, for easy. So easy. You know what's funny? You know why that's a good question though. It is a good question because I would have asked that question five years ago. Exactly. Five years ago, I would have ate and that what I fuck man. So I totally understand it is a good question.

Starting point is 01:15:25 I'm like, I need protein. Snicker bar has protein. There would be days where I was on my, you know, air quote unquote diet right now. And I'm driving home and I'm under my protein intake for the day and I'm like, I'm so tired, but I need to go home and just go to bed and I'm like, fuck, it's better I drive through McDonald's

Starting point is 01:15:40 and get McDonald's than to not eat at all. Like my thought process was, I needed to make sure I hit my macro targets every day, and that was more important than consuming the shitty food that I need. So I understand this question 100%. And so yeah, no, I wish I understood it with the way I understand it now.

Starting point is 01:15:59 You would be way better off just not eating. And then that even goes for somebody who is trying to build muscle. Like if you're trying to build muscle, still doesn't matter. Like still, it would be more beneficial for you to pass on that. But obviously if you started to string lots of days, a bunch of days together, that's when calories really start to count. Right.

Starting point is 01:16:20 Like, oh, I have an eating in 10 days. But if we're talking about a one off. Yeah, should I eat this crappy processed food or not? I'm like, okay, you're starving, you should eat it. But no, for the most part avoid it. It's funny because we'll go on these long, these four day trips or three day trips where we're podcasting, and we're doing a lot of traveling.

Starting point is 01:16:36 I mean, when we were in LA, Adam and I were doing two or three podcasts a day, but in between the podcasts, we were stuck in LA traffic for between one to two and a half hours. So it took us two and a half hours at one point to get from one podcast to another. And this entire time, we don't eat because what are your options? Like, we're on the road, we're about, you know, our options are terrible. So unless we stop at a grocery store and really make an effort, but we didn't necessarily have the time to do that,

Starting point is 01:17:04 we just, and it's funny, because we'll bring Taylor with us and Drew with us, and they're always like, man, you guys never fucking eat man, I'm so hungry. And it's, you know, it's because, unless we're gonna eat something good, it's really not worth the effort to get those kind of foods,

Starting point is 01:17:19 because then you're just gonna feel terrible, it's not gonna affect your body in a positive way. And we've talked about numerous times on this podcast, the benefits of intermittent fasting. And so these are great opportunities to do that. And I wish I knew this when I was training people years ago, because when I would have clients, one of the challenges clients would have would be,

Starting point is 01:17:39 you know, hey, when I'm in meetings all day, what do I eat, or what do I eat when I'm traveling? And then I would try to give them like a plan of like carry these in your purse or, you know, like, like some kind of like shitty snack that we're trying to substitute it with. I'd be like, take beef jerky and nuts with you and then eat that. And they're like, well, I'm at a meeting. They have food. I'm going to eat beef jerky and nuts.

Starting point is 01:17:57 Yeah. Now I tell them, doesn't make sense. Yeah, now I tell them that's a great day to fast. Like if you're not going to be home till four, do that day where you don't eat until four fast, until then, then eat something that's good for you and it's going to benefit you way more. Fasting, Adam talked about building muscle and fasting, and I know people are like, fastings the opposite of what you should do to build muscle. Not necessarily. I don't think you should fast regularly if you're trying to build muscle. And that's what I meant by that, right? That's where I was saying,

Starting point is 01:18:25 like if you did this on a regular basis, obviously it would not be a good idea if it's not pro muscle by fasting every other day. That would not be a smart move, but intermittently I 100% you're better off. No, I think it makes you more sensitive to proteins and carbohydrates and fats. I think it primes your body for better health and faster results.

Starting point is 01:18:48 It increases insulin sensitivity, which is also important for building muscle. If you have poor response to insulin, you're not going to shuttle glycogen and amino acids into muscle like you normally would. So I even recommend to people trying to mass build or whatever that. Once a week or maybe even once every other week They do kind of a longer fast where their first meal is until 3 p.m. or 4 p.m. or sometimes longer depending on on the individual and so far people have been trying it and they've been coming back to me I mean being like I'm building more lean body mass. I didn't get as fat doing it this way when I'm bulking

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