Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 723: How to Deadlift Correctly, the Best Way to Train Grip Strength, Central Nervous System Priming for Better Workouts & MORE

Episode Date: March 9, 2018

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about if seniors with decent health be doing foundational lifts like deadlifts, barbell squats, bench, overhead press, how to deadlift as a beginner, what they mean when they say "prime the Central Nervous System," and the best way to grip train. Not all supplements are created equal. The guys follow up with Organifi’s response to the recent study out regarding supplements. (3:08) Professional traveler. How should you dress at the airport? The guys share their thoughts. (7:35) No one likes to feel like they are being forced. Sal gets a little personal regarding dealing with an ex and being triggered. (11:30) This might be the last car I buy. Self-driving cars the way of the future? The personal car buying model old news? The guys get into deep discussion. (22:00) Your state of mind is your positive feedback loop. What is the best starting point towards connecting to your body? Sal cites a recent article and how this is the future of health/wellness. (38:00) Quah question #1 – Should seniors with decent health be doing foundational lifts like deadlifts, barbell squats, bench, overhead press? Or focus more on functional exercises? (52:09) Quah question #2 - How to deadlift for beginners? (1:02:15) Quah question #3 - What exactly do you mean when you say "priming the Central Nervous System?” (1:09:35) Quah question #4 – What is the best way to grip train? (1:20:00) Links/Products Mentioned: Arsenic, Lead Found in Popular Protein Supplements Organifi **Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off.** BELOW THE BELT with Brendan Schaub – YouTube Toyota will invest billions in new self-driving car company Nervous system puts the brakes on inflammation Can Breathing Like Wim Hof Make Us Superhuman? Health IQ - **To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at** MAPS Prime Pro Bundle - Mind Pump Ep 628-The Human Garage: Tuning Up the Body ... - Mind Pump Media MAPS Anabolic - Mind Pump Media COUNTRY STRONG?? Increase YOUR Work Capacity (2 EXERCISES) | MIND PUMP People Mentioned: Brendan Schaub (@brendanschaub)  Instagram Elon Musk (@elonmusk)  Instagram Wim Hof (@iceman_hof)  Instagram Human Garage (@humangaragela)  Instagram Arnold (@Schwarzenegger)  Twitter You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Prime Pro, which shows you how to self assess and correct muscle recruitment patterns that cause pain and impede performance and gains. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Yo man, in this episode of Mind, Pump, for the first 45 minutes, Adam Justin and myself have fun conversation and we talk about some current events. We start off by talking about organify and the tainted supplements. Don't confuse that with the episode. They're adding heavy metal, not the cool kind.

Yeah, and they're not other people are. Well, yeah. Don't confuse that with. No, no, no, not organify. Don't confuse that with the taint. We talk about Adam's outfit. He is looking fresh and fly. I'm bringing fly for a white guy.

Taking it back to 96. 96, baby. We talk about the challenges of divorce. Make some break in my balls. We talk about the race for self-driving cars. And then we talk about the central nervous system and its role in inflammation. We mentioned health IQ in all of that.

Now health IQ is one of our sponsors they do have life insurance. You can go to healthicu.com-slash-minepump, take a test to see what kind of rates you qualify for. We also talk about organify, of course. There was this huge study that came out that tested protein powders and found many of them were tainted with heavy metals, or GANIFI, not one of them.

Again, they are one of our sponsors. You can go to organifyshop.com, enter the code, mind pump, get a discount. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, should seniors with decent health be doing lifts like dead lifts, barbell squats, bench presses, and overhead presses. Or should they focus on more functional exercises? Big go. Kid it, granny. Exactly.

Next question was, how to deadlift for beginners? Sounds like a manual, but we break it down. If you're a beginner, you want to learn how to deadlift properly, this is the episode for you. Some good tips here. The next question was, what exactly do we mean when we talk about priming your central nervous system? This individuals trying to understand how our program maps prime works.

Is it science or is it all hubbub? The final question was, what is the best way to train grip strength for all around activities and lifts? Is there any merit to the various group training devices that are geared towards rock climbers? The tug method. And OCR athletes. Now we do in this episode talk

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causing you to laugh we think you should visit mine put media.com and and roll one of those bundles you get free access to our forum do it now If I wow I like how you do the you do that as a commercial that'd be awesome. I don't know can we can get back to it We'll just make yeah, can you do it on dude? Do you know? Very churchy. I know. I know. I actually took that from, I think it was like a... It's like a...

Oh, Jesus or oh. No, no, it was that one. I should have never opened Pandora's Box. You guys are always like, oh, it's not like a mic. It's like a Michael W. Smith kind of a jam. So just so, because you guys know, I've been exploring religions, right? Okay.

So just so you know, I'm gonna be Satanism is coming up next. I want to go. Be cool with that. Do say son of a... I already like his music. you know, I'm gonna be Satanism is coming up next. I want to be cool with that. Do ses anres. I already like his music. I figure it might be an easy one to it. It is a lot cooler. I'll be honest. Yeah. Yeah. You know how happy I am that that that organifier responded to us so quickly and I know you are you were talking about the testing. You're stressing out about that hard. Yeah. That they're called that their supplements are, dude, I appreciate them even more now.

Yeah, man, because every time I see a report come back, like the one from, was a clean label project, every time I see one of those reports come back from different organization, different third party organizations, there's several of them now I've seen where they test supplements and it's like, you know, nine out of 10 supplements

don't have what they say they have or eight out of 10 protein powders have heavy metals and I'm like, fuck, that's not even a minority that's almost like, oh yeah, the majority. Dude, you know what happens to me is I start anything. I start, if you guys, yeah, but you know what, that's also how they, there's, I mean, how studies are manipulated on both sides, right?

I mean, you got, you got, you got, you, all it takes, okay, first of all, all those things, I mean, even after your response from Organifi, they say that almost every vegan, vegan protein is going to have some sort of trace of it. Yeah, trace of metals in there. So right away, you can come out and say 80, 90% have all the... Well, the study was that most of the powders had well exceeded

the federal limits for, right, but then they take that stat and because they took a collection of, like maybe they picked eight random or ten random and eight of them came up that way. They then turn around and say a stat like that. So different than how we reread studies on building muscle or burning fat as the idea, they take a little bit of information than they expand on it to give you the shock enough. Because everyone I've seen so far is a third party organization that goes out. One was done by the FDA themselves, but there were other ones that were these third party

organizations. And they come back and they're always like most supplements are, or their labels are bogus. Remember the whole protein powder debacle a while ago where they were found to be spiking, you know, nitrogen spiking or amino acid spiking so that you know, your protein powder says 30 grams of protein per serving. Yeah, with amino acids, they spike it up. Yeah, but in reality, it's like 10 with additional like amino acids to make it look. Yeah, but in reality it's like 10. With additional amino acids to make it look like it's more. So it's just really good in there.

Garbage. Like there was that, there was one done on herbal supplements a while ago where they found, like this supplement says it has a chanatia and all it really has is like wheat. Like there was a supplement that was, it was wheat pills. It's like it assholes.

They don't even have an herb in there, you know what I mean? Try this, you know. You guys will be eating trisks. Yeah, it's like, what the fuck, man? But it always, so, and then, let me tell you why this makes me mad. If you guys only knew the volume and amount of stuff we took of supplement, I have taken,

I'm, I know Adam is up there, but no way. I don't wanna think back. You don't even come close to me. I know I don't come close, because you still have that in you. You can see it come out. Especially the fitness expo. Yeah, we go somewhere like there,

we go somewhere like on it. Right away, I'm like, oh, look at this guy. He's still got a little thing with the someone. You're just more scientific about it when you do it. Actually, he's like a beard, honey. I pretend like it's scientific. Yeah, okay, first experiment, come buy it everything. I, since I was 14, so I'm like a beard honey. I pretend like it's scientific. Yeah, okay, first experiment, come buy it everything. I, since I was 14, so I'm like, man, I wonder what,

I gotta go get tested for like heavy metals and shit like that. Oh my God. I mean, I know, you know, well, see what happens. But anyway, I'm happy that Organifi got back to us so quickly and that their testing shows that their stuff is very, very clean. So, and I know that they're on the price of your side of supplements, but you get what you

pay for and you put in your body. Well, that's why because they take the time to look at stuff like that. Yeah, so it makes me happy. Do you, can we take a moment and just recognize Adam's outfit? Yeah, I do. That is, I wore it today for Taylor and he's not even here. I was not even here. Yeah, I wore it for Taylor to this.

It was jumpsuit, right? It literally looks like, and now, you're starting center Adam Schaefer. It's like, he's got like the breakaway pants and everything. I've met this for close to 20 years. That's not what I see Justin. No, you don't see that? No, what I see when I look at him is a,

like, you're dressing like a mobster from the 1970s. You know, you know, they were the jumpsuit. It was Viva. Oh yeah. Well that's how it was popular back then. It was like, it was like in the early 90s and stuff that you're popular. I the jumpsuit. It was Viva. Oh yeah. Well that's how it was popular back then. It was like in the early 90s and stuff. I love jumpsuits. I've, oh, it's one of the most comfortable.

I've kept it because of how comfortable it's inside cheap, right? So I've had it forever. It's the one pair of clothing that you can both sleep in and wear in the daytime. You know what I mean? It's like 24 hour clothing. You know how it is.

Have you guys watched Brennan Shob's new showtime show? No. I watch it. It's the showtime show. I just watched it and he made a show. He said he was talking shit about people that wear sweats in the airport. He's all, when did it become socially acceptable to also know you're fucking pajamas to fucking the airport, right?

And because he gets all, he's dressed up all the time. I'm like, I don't know, dude, I'm listening to him, like, I kind of disagree here. Yeah. Because I've flown already enough times that over to the East Coast, and it's a motherfucker like, I kinda disagree here. Yeah. Cause I've flown already enough times over to the East Coast and it's a motherfucker being some in some tight jeans, dude. It's a tight professional traveler.

You know, you're wearing sweats. Right. And you're bringing the neck pillow. Right. Like an asshole. That's how I feel. This is, it is not about how I look. Like I get on that point, dude.

If I was gonna list the top three, I'm drooling. The top three things about working in fitness, the top three, for sure. One of those, maybe one or two is the fact that I get to where work out close every day. You know how, dude, I worked in the bank. Oh my god. Okay, so I was a premier banker in Bank of America, which is basically you're handling like clients with a lot of money, right? And by the way, I had zero experience with this kind of stuff. I basically, this just shows my, my sales ability, I closed them on hire me for this position.

I hated it, right? Hated working in the bank. And there's a lot of reasons why I hated it. First of all, it's banking, it's fucking boring. And second of all, super quiet. You guys know my voice. You can imagine me in the back of the room, trying to talk to customers and getting shushed

by every other banker in there. And one of the other reasons why I hated it had to wear a suit. Do you know shitty that is? You know, I went through a phase where I actually wish I had a job that I could wear. Did you ever got that? I was in sweats for so long.

I went from a dairy where I might shit on me and rubber boots on me and a full jumper that I'm wearing when I work all day long, right? And then I go to sweats all the day. I'm like, I just wanna be clean and professional. I'm gonna be an adult. I remember for a minute there. Just for a short time.

You'll get over it so fast. Yeah, I'm so uncomfortable. All you have to do is run a couple weddings back-to-back and I was like, okay, I'm already over. Think about this way. How long does it take you to get ready in the morning, right? You're just like, oh, sweats, t-shirt, and I'm in. I'm in clocked it and I'm in my uniform

Like this is what I'm supposed to do like to the point where my dress up clothes because I've been in fitness for so long or jeans So then what do you think about the airport thing? I think he's I'm I'm gonna call Brendan out on him calling you out, bro I think he a little too fancy. Yeah, that's how I feel But there's there's things there's things to be playing suck anyway like you don't want to be you want to be comfortable? That's how I feel there's things there's things to be playing suck anyway like you don't want to be you want to be comfortable That's how I feel yeah, I'm the I can't what he's saying though I do notice that dude if it was up to me I might even you know I might even bring a blanket next time just walk around with a blanket like you know I mean wake up I think how nice everybody will avoid you in the plane. Oh cozy. I mean I guess if we I guess if we were getting off a plane

And we had like a big business meeting that we had to I'd be dressed right right if we had right we have yet To get off a plane and walk into like an important meeting like we get off a plane We don't go to a house. I'm wearing a Suzy if we're in private jet status. You know me. I even know I'm more comfortable Or yeah, I might come in my boxers if it's a private jet we could go through all the normal nice When you do that you own the world but they're all the normal. What am I thinking? I mean, when you do that, you own the world. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I gotta take a peek, you know, open the window real quick, just gonna sprinkle it outside. I'm gonna bless the earth with my pee right now. Boy, can I just say something right now that I'm not gonna go into detail over this, because I don't talk about super personal stuff. Well, I do, but not this kind of stuff.

But can I just say that, do you guys have triggers that like certain things that can get you from calm happy cool to like you want to like you're like a volcano explode pissed off. Oh usually it's it's certain people Because they know you so well. They want to just like they find that button and they push me Yeah, so I have of experience one of the chapters in this book I was reading gets into talking about the myth of triggers. This is kind of cool, right? So I mean, I've always had the same way too. Like there's certain things that that trigger me, but really it is it's a it's it's part of how our

emotions are made and it's a series of events that not only happen like in the past or that could potentially cause you to be upset, but also what's currently happening right at that moment and at that time in your day even. So I've learned to take those situations that which I used to call triggered before as okay what's going on so different with me that I allow this bullshit to bother me. Oh, I'm sorry, everybody.

Let me tell you, that's, no nothing, well nothing can get you as angry as your ex-wife, as your ex-wife, as your ex or your baby mama or whatever. I don't care if you're a woman or a man, everybody knows who's gone through a divorce or whatever. And because I'm in from the future, I know this.

This is a lie. For fuck me. For fuck's sake. For fuck's sake. Man, I was on cloud nine this morning, like on my way to work, like, yeah, fucking gritty. I'm gonna crush, this could be so great. One phone call. And I'm like, looking on my way to work, like yeah, fucking great, you're gonna crush, it's gonna be so great, one phone call. And I'm like, looking at, I'm like,

can I drive my car off the bridge right now? Like this would be a great idea. Well, without giving away what you're going through, I know something about you though that you have already admitted that you hate even dealing with that shit anyways. So that's what I look into, I go like, okay, this other person, I can't control them, they're this not,

but why did this trigger me so much out of all the things? It's not her. It's that this is an area that I don't like dealing with, and then now you're making it more difficult for me. You bitch. Like that's what's going through your head, and if you really dig deeper,

it's really less about her. And it's always about me. Yeah it's always a person. Right right it's a hundred percent why did that get me so mad. It's just a lot of stupid shit. Why does that want you? If I go deep if I go even deeper I have a tendency to I don't nobody likes to to feel like they're either being forced or they feel like they have to do something or they have to acquiesce to a situation against their wishes. Nobody likes that feeling, right? I can remember when I was in school, there was a situation where I went to a junior high that was just, it wasn't a great junior high.

We had a lot of gangs there, a lot of kids that come in from rough areas. So it was a bad environment. And it was one time where I had a gang of kids who forced me to basically made me back down, if you will. I had to back down from a fight or be a chicken, if you will, from a fight because there were back down from a fight or chicken, you know, be a chicken, if you will, from a fight because there were 10 of them and there were just one of me.

And it bothered me so bad that I had to acquiesce and cower that it bothered me so badly that the next day I found a way to fight the main antagonist, the main dude. And then I got jumped for it, and then I went after someone else. It bothers me that bad. I can't stand it so much.

That's just part of my core. Maybe that's a fixed mindset, and I'm sure I can fix it. But when you have an ex who is the parent, the other parent of your child, and by the way, for all intents and purposes, we have a good relationship. So I don't wanna make them sound like a terrible person.

This is just, and this is not a me problem. This is a, I think this is an existential, like problem that parents who have to co-parent, have to deal with even parent people who are not necessarily divorced, just together. At some point, you're gonna feel like you're being forced by this under other individual. And it's just complicated by the fact that you

maybe are divorced from them. Maybe there's a lot of resentment already there, and that's why the divorce happened, and all that other stuff. So when you feel like you're being forced, for me, there is almost nothing worse. It's like the worst feeling. I don't like being forced.

Like I'm the cool, you know what it is? I know, okay, here it is. Such a great podcasting is a great way to process, isn't it? I am, you guys know me, am I, would you consider me a generous individual? We all are, whenever. Yeah, like if somebody needs something from me, if you ask me, like if you come up to me like,

hey man, look, here's a situation, like I need this help or I need this money or I need whatever. I'm nine out of 10 times. I'm gonna totally wanna help you. I have no problem doing that. Which makes me more angry when I feel like I'm being forced to do things from someone, rather than just asking me.

If I feel like I'm being forced, knowing that I would probably be okay with it if you just asked, that is fire, man. That's like internal, like, God, what is that feeling? You know what I mean? I feel like there's a sun, a burning hot set of my chest. What it is, I mean, you said it a bunch of times, it's me. It's always me.

It's always me and it's always something that I'm perceiving this this way. This is what's allowing me to get angry. And so, because you can never, you can never control everybody else and all the bullshit they do. So, if you find yourself getting, you know, quote unquote triggered, then there's,

there's work to be done there for me. Fluck her, fuck what she's doing. Oh, that's the only thing I can work on. Right, right, I can't force on anybody else. And, you know, at the end of the day, I prefer, of course, to have a good relationship with, you know, my kids' mother. And that's for the most part what it is.

And it's for, of course, the kids. It makes everybody work better. It's better to work together usually, right? Then unless it's a terrible, terrible situation. And I know it's me. I can only work on me. I know this. It's still though.

Oh, yeah. It's trying. Of course. It's a test, dude. It's a test. You want to be forced to grow. I go through it to force the kids. And they're just gonna be more of, you know,

stuff like this, just gonna pop up. I had a client once who, you gave me some wisdom. I don't think he realized how much wisdom he gave me. He was married for eight years to a woman who didn't work. So she was at home, he worked, and they didn't have kids. And he was a very high earning surgeon. So he's earning like a sh** ton of money, probably a half a million dollars a year, very, very well known surgeon, making a lot of money.

And she's at home just doing that stuff, and they have no kids, right? So they get divorced. This guy, after eight years of marriage and her right? So they get divorced. This guy, after eight years of marriage and her never working, they get divorced. He has to pay, I forgot, it was something like 15 grand a month to her in Alamoney for years. Like four years, he had this bill of 15 no kids. They had no kids.

It was Alamoney to her Because she lit because she didn't work or whatever and so now had she worked or got married Then that would hurt that would reduce your Alamoney so while she was paying her 15 grand a month She was with a guy who was she got with this other guy who was super wealthy You understand how common that is and he refused listen This is a best part is the best part She was living with this man who made all this money or dating him or something like that And she been with him for a long time wouldn't get married to him because she knew yeah, and right after the house He was obviously a nice guy because if he wants if he could have tried to go after that cost them more money

Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying He's a nice guy and I don't know where his income was, but he told me I mean I had this conversation with him and he's like listen man, he goes it's just trust me goes I've gone you know up down left right with this he goes I'm just not by the way This is not my situation. This is not why I'm giving you this example It was just reminding me of this and he said to me goes you know like If I fight it it's gonna cost me more So I'm just gonna do it and that's it.

And I just release it because otherwise, he goes, for a year, it fucking stressed me out so bad. And it was a learning lesson for me because I saw this and I'm like, well, I guess there's a lot of logic in that. Sometimes you're forced to do something and it's like, in reality, I guess you could try to fight it, but that would be a worse option.

So you're actually choosing the option that's better. So in reality, it's not forced, right? Well, it's less of fighting and more. It's that's kind of if she's doing it intentionally like that, that's it's unfair. Like if you've been living together with this guy, forget if she could go prove that they've been living together for a certain amount of time.

And I don't know what that's. I don't know if they were living together. She was just dating the guy. Oh, yeah, if she's just dating, well, then he's fucked. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're fucked, you see, nothing around that. Oh, the best part is after he paid his last payment,

she got buried together, guy. She buried the last payment. Yeah, so I can't ready. It's funny you're putting this up because I was having this conversation yesterday with an old client of mine and her boyfriend is been divorced for I think like 10 years or whatever that from his wife.

He gave the house, the $4 million house to her that she lives in, any pay her alimony, and I guess they just found out yesterday that she was, or he's now, excuse me, she's now engaged to get married and you could tell she's like all in this good moon and she's like, oh yeah, no, he's so excited. Like, she's like that all increases income by 25%. And I know this guy's, he's interviewing Elon, or he's a lawyer for Elon Musk. That's a big chunk. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I'm like, damn, you know how crazy that would be

if you're just used to for years, given 25% of your income like that. And when you're making millions of dollars like that, what that could be like, I think that's crazy. Yeah. What's worse when you have tens of millions and someone takes half that and you make five million or when you make 50,000 and someone takes half that

and they make 25,000. What's worse? If you're gonna get all real estate, it's gonna hurt, right? You know, it all hurts, it all hurts. Right? That's true. Well, the way the laws are set up, men usually get the, when it comes to that kind of stuff,

we'll get the short end of the stick. And I know why they designed the laws are set up, men usually get the, when it comes to that kind of stuff, we'll get the short end of the stick. And I know why they designed the laws that way. But yeah, a lot of people get screwed. Although I've seen women get screwed too though. I had a client who she worked, made a lot more money than her husband did, and she had to end up paying him. I'm sure, yeah.

I'm sure it goes a little bit. Speaking of big money and stuff, did you guys see Toyota 1.8 billion dollars they're investing right now into the race, dude? It's everybody is on this race to the self-driving cars. And I mean, I really feel like this is way closer than what I thought it was before. I mean, you're talking about a technology

that's gonna radically transform society. Radically, so the appels working on that under the wraps, I guarantee you. You know, they all are. They talk about the articles, they have a specific part for it. that's going to radically transform radically society apples working on that under wraps like guarantee no they all are they talk about the article here's they have a specific so what's for literally what's happening right now is you have companies like Toyota Who are actually investing themselves? You know billions of dollars to actually keep it all in house to where they are doing it Then you have other companies that are speaking to companies like Google and Apple and then are like working together because they're going to create the software. They'll be the big powerhouse company.

So, you know, it's interesting because it makes me think, what do you think is the better strategy? Do you think if your Volkswagen, if you're VW, if you're Toyota or you're one of these, these big cars, right? Is it smarter for you to, you know, partner up? Partner up with a tech company. Four hundred percent. Of course. I see. I don't know. I don, partner up with a tech company. 400% of what I see.

I don't know 100% here's why I don't know if I grew with that. No, because they're, you know, them trying to all of a sudden, like, create a, like, technology and the infrastructure for that, like back in front and, um, they've never done that before. I mean, they've done it on like a, like a chip level. If you, if you invest in $1.8 dollars, that means you went out got a team and you Where are you getting them from they're getting BC players at best? Yeah, like

Apple or Crune from those places. No, I don't know about that. I have to agree with Justin I have to agree 100% with Justin imagine if a car manufacturer Today said we are gonna manufacture our tires. We're gonna manufacture our oil We're gonna make manufacture our tires. We're going to manufacture our oil. We're going to make everything ourselves in the house. Look, Toyota will never make a tire as good as a tire company. To create the technology to navigate a car

also requires the infrastructure with maps, with like Google owned that shit. Like, oh, they've mastered it. Yeah, like, you're, that's a, it's a, it's a typical play that companies do that typically, not always. That's why I'm so excited about this. Why I'm so excited about this.

The opposite though. Okay, so I know Apple's so arrogant that they're gonna take, they're gonna create their own car. They've never done a car industry before. They've never been a part of it, but guess what? They went into, you know, like the phone industry and then all of a sudden they created phones. This reminds me of being a kid and watching like Royal Rumble, dude, like everybody's in the ring, dude. went into the phone industry and then all of a sudden they created phones.

This reminds me of being a kid and watching Royal Rumble, dude, everybody's in the ring, dude. And you have all kinds of different strengths and body types. You have no idea who's going to come out. I'm really fascinated by it because then you throw in a company like Uber. I mean, you could argue these guys the way they are covering space and ground right now.

It's like, fuck you. Well, I feel like if anybody, and this is my own personal thought, has an advantage over everybody, it's Tesla. Just because of the fact they've already been incorporating technology within the cloud-based technology where they give constant updates, they have that system in place. They're ready. That's it. I'm with you on that one.

I like Tesla a lot in this. I like them a lot in place. Yeah, they're ready. That's it. I like, I'm with you on that one. I like Tesla a lot in this. I like them a lot in this. Yeah, so what I think when I look at this is, first off, you have what's going to change more dramatically than anything, what's going to be one of the biggest fundamental shifts, is the shift from private car ownership. Oh yeah, no doubt. No doubt. Right, no doubt. So private car ownership will be largely a thing of the past in the relatively near future

because it will be so cost effective to not own a car. I believe the next car I buy will be the last car I buy. Probably, I do. I've already thought about this right now. Like if I have three vehicles that are like either approaching or over 100,000 miles right now and I'm going, it's telling Katrina the day, I was like, you know, we really should get a new car.

We're getting ready to get the house right now. I don't want to do, this is not a smart thing to do right now. Let's just tough it out. We have no payments or anything, right? So, but I'm going like, this might be the last car I buy. You know what I'm saying? I kind of want to buy one last cool car. Because I really think it's going to be stupid

to have one in about 10, 15 years. Well, so think about this. Think about this. Think about the difficulty that a company like Toyota, Ford, Chevy, you know, think of how difficult of a transition it is for these companies that are built on, entirely built on private car ownership. They have to completely change their business model.

That's a massive shift. And I don't think they'll be able to do it and compete with companies that are already poised around not private car ownership like Uber. Like Uber has already designed a round Tesla. That's my point. So I do not, I think the old dogs are fucked. Okay, who's our front three?

I think those are the front runners. Where are the front three? Apple, Uber, and Tesla. Yep, I would say things like lift, Uber, Google, Apple, are in the running. Uber's ahead of lift and not worry about lift. I think I like Uber, I like Apple, I like Tesla, I like Elon Musk.

Let's just think about this first. Can't bet against a guy that fucking... Let's think about what he wants. If he wants it, if he wants it. Since it's so rocking, he's gonna get it done. He's a doer. That's the only reason why I don't know if I'm counting on Tissus because that motherfucker's got so much on his plate that he may, he's trying to conquer something else right now.

Yeah, I'm about to. He's trying to get you wants it. He's like in the, I think I believe he's more in the like the lunar cycle idea, right? Like that's where he's heading. He's heading more that direction. So maybe he does interstellar travel. Right, right. He's like, you guys are fuck around

with how we're gonna get around Earth. Get around Earth. Like fuck Earth. We're not gonna be on Earth. That's old news. That's old news. I'm trying to get to the end of the road. So that's the only reason. The drama to compliment.

That's the only reason why Tesla might not be in my top three. There's definitely not the number one because of that. Too forward thinking. Well, think about it this way. Let's just think about, for example, the design of a car. Let's like a car is designed,

and it has been since day one, to be around the driver, to be centric around the driver who controls the entire car. When there is no driver, what does that look like inside the car? Do they keep the wheel, like just in case is a safety, or do you sit facing, do you sit facing forward, like you always do, or does it become an office?

Yeah, it comes from an office. Well, that's my 100% it comes from an office. That's what I think the future of cars, self-driving cars look like, little work desks. They could be. I mean, some of them may look different. Some of them may be bars. You may have a traveling van that drives around,

picks you up in your friends and friends. Look at this is, we're in the thick of it all with the Silicon Valley, right? And I mean, everybody I know, I don't know anybody that doesn't have, besides maybe ourselves, that don't have, and even has, I think Justin's got it. So no, everybody I know has a 30 to hour plus commute every single morning and every single night going back home, minimum. So that's one to two hours productivity, productivity every single day that people could

be doing, which is why we see texting and driving so bad right now. I know. Everybody does it because everybody's like, holy shit, I'm multitasking. I could be working and streaming. I'm sitting here. Yeah, I'm sitting in traffic, I'm aasel, answer stuff. So think of all the wasted space that we have in society that's due to parking cars.

How much of your home is dedicated to parking your car? How much time is dedicated to trying to find parking? Taking care of your car. Taking care of your car. How many people are killed every year through car accidents and drunk drivers, traffic, which is largely the result of human error will mostly be gone.

So that our commute, if you're not driving and all these cars are synchronizing and measuring off of each other, might turn into a 20 minute drive. Does that now mean that, for example, one of the reasons why Silicon Valley is so expensive is people are trying to get closer to where their work is. Well, if it's self-driving cars and traffic

is kind of a thing of the past and all that stuff, are people gonna spread out even further? Is that gonna cause people to now want to move to, you know, not a big deal to move to. On our half a lot. 100% do, I'll tell you right now, if I mean being someone who's shopping right now, if I were to buy a house with this technology

currently running, I would for sure buy like an hour away. Who cares if it's an hour, I mean, that's just an hour, I get up, now I can have my coffee on the road, I can be working on my answering all my emails before I get here. Oh, it would just first, and I know I could get into a house that's potentially- Learning conference call.

First, sure. Now think about this, freeing up of the elderly, Oh, it was just first and I know I could get into a house that's potentially different. The difference call, like, first year. Now think about this, freeing up of the elderly, the freeing up of children. Think about all the times you have to take your kids here and practice. Yeah, you give them their cell phones, you could track them and you go, okay, take the, I'm called, I called your Uber or whatever,

it's taking you to soccer, like all these things are gonna be, it's gonna change society on, cause cars change society in fundamental ways anyway. Like cars were part of the industrial revolution. Wagon's automobiles was a huge fucking deal. Well, highway, freeways, like change suburbs, how we live, how we built buildings.

Dude, it's gonna be, I don't think people realize just how crazy it's gonna be, but what do you guys think are gonna are the largest obstacles to That type of a transition Wow Regulation yeah, got a percent yeah, yeah, I'm all regulations. Yeah, if we took that off right now It'd be fucking tomorrow. Yeah, be here tomorrow. It really would but and who do and so I think that you're gonna see some law being To keep regulations to fight this new transformation

happening, maybe the big car manufacturers. How do you start it? Do you just start with certain freeways that are only self-driving? You know what I mean? Where it's like, I foresee a problem being like somebody that's driving their own car trying to change lanes and like a self-driving car

is just, you know, like it doesn't really have the same response. 100% they'll have to be dedicated lanes and separate the two, because there will be an overlap in a transition when that happens. You won't go front, we won't go front. I think we see probably a lot of assholes

that don't want to come to that. I think we'll see private roads, private freeways, private highways. I mean, what did the wagon automobile transition look like? People just navigate around each other. I don't see, look, if a car is self, it's autonomous, it has to be a little navigator round up people. I can't picture a wagon in an automobile on the same...

Oh yeah, all the time. It had to have. Right? I just can't picture it right now, can you? Yeah, no, it's just you navigate and see an image of that. Have you seen an image of that? No. You know, eventually, I can pull it up easy. Eventually, what'll happen is it'll be a legal drive

I think to ask Doug Doug was all enough. He was he remembers that No Doug Doug was writing dinosaurs Terradactyl Terradactyl is flying over you're eventually it'll be illegal to drive They'll make it to where like it is now like you can't write a horse on the freeway You know, I mean yeah at some point they're gonna be like okay, it's illegal for you to drive your own So what I wonder then is my, is my Camaro gonna be fucking worth so much money?

Or is it gonna be worth nothing? Yeah, it's either one or the other. No, I think it'll be worth way more. Yeah, it'll be like, it'll be put in a museum. I think it'll be worth way more. You know what's gonna go up in popularity, forwheeling, guaranteed. Because they go up for it.

They go up parks and, yeah, it's stuff dedicated to like off-roading and you know I I could just see that as being like oh I get what you're an adventure like oh I'm driving a car Whoop? What a great point. Yeah, what a great point. I could I could make a business around right and try I mean you're we already have these tracks. We can go race you know drive a Corvette or drive a Ferrari or do that for the day And they remember what driving a Yeah, you're probably right driver Ferrari or do that for the day and they were in. Remember what driving a crazy vehicle was like? You're probably right, that's a good call.

I like that call. And think about it. That's a great way to transition it out too, you know what I'm saying? And also think about the amount of money that you spend on a car and on car insurance and on gas compared to how much you'll spend on these services that'll pick you up. Like the last estimates I read were something like $3,000 a year they estimate it'll cost the person to use one of these cars. $3,000 a year is nothing compared to how much we spend on cars, insurance, gas.

Are you kidding? It's totally nuts. So imagine now that increased that increased wealth that we now have now as a result of that. What that's going to do for society and where people are going to invest that kind of stuff. Like this is going to be a huge explosion for just size. So what do they anticipate? Like Toyota, do they give themselves like a date or a projected? No, see, I'm not reading anything like that.

Like I don't know what's saying, like this is happening. And I think it goes back to regulations, right? I think, but I think when you see companies spending billions of dollars in it, it's here. You know what I'm saying? This isn't a matter of like, oh, it's gonna have, like some people, I felt like two years ago, we were dollars in it. It's here. You know what I'm saying? It's not it. This isn't a matter of like Oh, it's gonna like some people weird I felt like two years ago We were talking about it like as like oh man. I know in the cool sci-fi story Yeah, right, but now it's like it's for sure here

You don't go spend billions of dollars like that if you know that this isn't the future And this is what I think I think everyone's gone back and done the math So it's sourced talking about and I think if you're if you're a multi-billion dollar company like Toyota And you sit down with all your guys go oh I was talking about, and I think if you're a multi-billion dollar company like Toyota and you sit down with all your guys, you go, oh, this is a real reality. And this means, and anybody would be a fool not to just pay $3,000. I mean, that's like, to have a new car and eliminate, I mean, I would pay close to $10,000. Yeah.

I mean, when you add in gas, washing your car, maintenance on the car, car payment, all those all those things. Oh, all those, all those things, like, oh, I would pay, I would pay three times at a mouth shut. Public transportation will be a thing of the past because you're gonna have ride sharing buses and stuff that people can actually pay privately. And it'll be cheap as fuck when it's autonomous.

I wish, see, what I would like to do is figure out a way to invest in the products and things that are gonna explode as a result of that. For example, electric car batteries. Like I bet you those, or electric engines, like if you could figure out how to invest in something like that, because for sure, these autonomous cars or whatever are gonna probably mostly be electric, right?

Because then they'll go to their charging station of whatever company charge and then go out and do their job. Because it's cleaner for the environment. It's some extent. It can be. It's some extent. Again, this is where I speak. It's just efficient and money-wise, I think.

I see companies like a Toyota that would, I think they would all be in house, you know? Like if you're getting the, if you're building the technology to figure out the software piece, you've already got the car piece mastered. You better figure it out. I mean, Tesla's all in-house. They do their own batteries, too, right? Or they contract those out. I think they do make their own batteries.

I think they do, too. I think you would keep it all in-house. So it's probably, it's really goes back to who we think is like the race leaders in this. That's the problem. That's the thing. That's a good point, because Tesla does have an advantage with batteries. They've definitely owned that market Well Toyota does has their own with Prius right? They've done they've done that too

So I mean that's what I'm saying. I don't I don't know if there's gonna be a side company That would make their batteries or if they would I don't know enough about this to really speculate But I would think that you would keep it all in house as much as you possibly can that's why I don't know if I agree with you on the Contracting out just because I but I do get where you're coming from as far as the software these guys are professionals at creating that they would be best for that But I do see that this being an ongoing Constantly having to upgrade constantly having to write more code constantly having to evolving you better and it be a and I think I would instead of Always having to try you know fucking, fucking Google, a million dollar, check every month, it's like, let's invest the one point.

That's cost-effective. Right, let's invest the one point a billion. We may not be the leader, we may not be first, we may have to learn from them, we may have to reverse engineer all of their stuff, but at least we'll control it financially in our house and we won't be dependent. It's like the Intel Pentium processor on the inside,

you know, but you have like, exactly, exactly, I mean, Google, you're going to go over Apple. Exactly. I mean, Google, you give Google Apple whoever these people that are right or whatever companies are doing the software if these coming, these car companies, they got a lot of power, bro. That's a lot of power you're giving them

just because you want to be first or you think you want to have the best software. I don't know, I might have more of an Apple approach with let's just get it out there and then somebody else will try and do it and then we'll one up them again real quick because we've got the manpower. I think the big the first ones to really make this happen are also taking a massive risk because One just one Accident I don't want accident just one will cause the regulation will will be a

Any you know the funny thing is people are scared so easily right? So they oh my god self-driving car explodes in fire And everybody's gonna freak out out it's like well statistically speaking that's so who's really less than the yeah who's really been splashing and tiptoeing into it is uber and Tesla Tesla that's it those are the two yep yep yep so that's why I think they have an advantage it'll be very interesting I like them so I got a cool article I've been I just quickly will go over with you guys that I thought was interesting so I I read this in medical express as a website. The title of the article is nervous system puts the brakes on inflammation. So there's cells in the nervous system that put the brakes on immune responses

to infections in the gut and lungs and that prevent excessive inflammation. Now this is interesting. This is very interesting. This is showing that the CNS system, the central nervous system communicates directly with the immune system. Well, we know, okay, well, when you say that, we know that stress could cause the gut to be inflamed. So if you have a high stress life, you're more likely to probably have leaky gut or some sort of...

Well, this is showing that the immune system can actually also suppress it, suppress and block it. So, I mean, it's so funny, you know what I mean? This whole like mind, body, spirit, meditate, and be spiritual and sound it so hokey. Like 10 years ago, holy shit, they were right. Like how right they were. How naive of us to think they weren't considering,

we've only been on this earth for 37 years. We've in and this shit's been going on for thousands of years, you know, say thousands of years. Well, you see like, you know, like how they're just so intuitive, like they're just so in tune with their own body and the systems and like listening to the communication process. Like they can do amazing what seems like superhuman things. And it's just like, they're just on that level Dude, it's your state of mind makes such a big impact in how your body reacts and responds to both your food

to your activity to your life and Then of course, and this is the easy connection your state of mind also of course from you know Causes you to make certain decisions and stuff. So it's just, it really is a positive feedback loop. Now, positive feedback loop for the listeners who aren't familiar, you ever have a microphone that you're speaking into and they're speakers, and then you get the microphone close to the speaker and it makes that loud noise. What's happening is the microphone is picking up very small sounds from the speaker,

which is then getting amplified, which is then getting picked up again. And it's amplifying it like crazy. This is what happens with our connection from our mind and our emotions to our body. So, you know, if I have a little bit of inflammation in my gut and that causes me to stress out, that stress then causes more inflammation in the gut, gut which then causes and it can go the reverse I can be

Ancious or stressed or I'm not dealing with something so I'm suppressing something which causes this emotional Feeling which then causes inflammation with this causes me to feel worse and it just does this positive feedback That's a really good. Yeah, that was awesome This this actually makes me think a lot of Wim Hof and like why like his practices were so successful. And when they tested him and how he was able to then, you know, I don't remember what specific bacteria was that like they tested with. I think it was E. coli or something like that

where they injected like, oh, and he fought it. Yeah, and he fought it. And he basically didn't get any of the effects, you know, crazy. He was able to. I said, we can't just shit right there. Yeah, just by calming, you know, crazy. I said, we'll just hit right there. Yeah, just by calming, you know, here's the thing, like, think about it this way. If we went, if we took humans from a thousand or two thousand years ago and brought them today, they would probably be in absolute awe and wonder with the average human's ability

to organize, schedule, navigate, technology, articulate with their fingers on new technology, being able to read, symbols, and convey messages. And they'd be like, oh my God, you guys are ninjas. You guys are brilliant. You guys are geniuses. No, the truth is we've just been practicing since we were children.

The thing that we haven't practiced at all, at all in Western societies, is this mindfulness practice. So that's why when we look at people like Wim Hof, they're like Superman or like gods. The reality is they just practice. They practice. That's it. He's communicating with his autonomic system.

That's it. He's figured it out. Totally possible if you make this a regular, it's funny now that I coach, when I coach people now, this is becoming more and more and more a part of their coaching where I'm having them stop before you leave. Before you leave, and stop. Yeah, do you know, you know,

and the difference is I can sell it now, cause I understand it really well. So now people actually comply, whereas in the past they'd be like, hey, like it's an important thing. Yeah, have a mindfulness practice. What the fuck is that mean? I don't wanna do that.

What do you mean, I get plenty of sleep or whatever. Right. It makes a tremendous difference in your physical body and how it actually operates. And so I read this article this morning and I was thinking about this and I was thinking about, God, how do I, like I'm communicating it right now and I know people listening are like,

wow, that makes a lot of sense. Like, where do I start? What does that look like? And I've also talked about in the past how, you know, when we talked about things I can do with a meeting, like taking care of yourself, like someone you care about, and that tends to resonate with people.

And I thought to myself, like the best starting point for all of this is really that. The best starting point really is understanding that and understanding this, like how you feel about yourself, how you take care of yourself, how you allow yourself to be in the emotional state you allow yourself to be in or that you are in, is in direct relation or directly connected to how you love yourself or the empathy you

have for yourself or how you view yourself. And I'll explain even further. If you were in the care of, let's imagine you had a prison, and you had a prisoner in there, and they were just a person you hated. You just fucking hated them. You did not like them at all. They were bad people.

You would treat them as such. Now imagine if you had to care for somebody, but you loved them, you cared for. Maybe it was at your own child. The way you behave towards them, the way you treated them would be as such. Now, if you view yourself in that same way, as somebody that you hate because I have no discipline,

I'm too stressed out, I'm not doing enough for these things that I could be doing, I made this bad decision. Of course, you're gonna treat yourself terribly, and of course, you're gonna have a state of mind that, because you have to deal with yourself. There's one person in the world you can't escape. And that's yourself. So if I hate Justin, if I hate Adam,

I can just make a choice and be like, well, I'm outta here. I'm not gonna fucking work with you guys. I live with me. The only escape. Yeah, the only potential possible escape would be obviously suicide, which is not an option, obviously.

So if I have to live with this person, I have to learn to love myself like somebody I care about and that's the root or the foundation of where the salt comes from. If you can do that and it really begins with this, it's like, I look at the decisions I made in the past and I start to realize like, okay, I made some bad decisions or I wasn't disciplined or I did things to myself that weren't the greatest. I can see that I made those mistakes. I can see that I also try to do better. So I forgive myself and right now I'm making the choice to try to stop doing that to the

best of my ability. Now I can start to love myself because now I'm a person deserving of empathy because I've made that decision. I've admitted that in the past I wasn't so good to myself. I've also forgiven myself and had empathy towards myself. That doesn't mean I'm gonna be perfect moving forward. It's just acknowledging that now moving forward, I'm gonna be someone that's going to try to live in a way

where I'm caring for somebody that I actually care about. Once you start right there, that's where I think the mindfulness practice can start to come from. Because now I'm like, okay, now I can sit here, I can try to be calm, I can try to breathe, I can try to care. You need to try to be perspective instead of making it into work. Exactly.

Exactly. And then that of course feeds the physical, and then the physical now feeds the mental. Because what happens is that positive feedback works in the opposite too. If you start to create this mental space and emotional state that brings things down to a healthy level, that makes you start to feel better emotionally. That will reflect itself in your physical self. So now, I'm feeling less physical symptoms of stress, less physical symptoms of anxiety, less physical symptoms of inflammation, which now means I physically feel better, which now feeds back right into this emotional state of well-being.

So now I've created a positive feedback loop in the direction that I want. So understanding that, I think, makes a huge difference. It makes a huge difference. You just kind of grazed over the suicide thing, but that suicide and depression, that it's the lack of self-love. And it's the lack of being able to connect to yourself like that is where that all stems. You know, this kind of a dark question,

but I wanted to ask Doug, Doug, what is, do you know like with the insurance and stuff like that, like where, if, like suicide, is that normally in the, or even depression, or the day asked questions like that? Typically, it will be medical questions in regards to depression. So if you have a history of going to a doctor for depression

or if you're on some type of anodiprescent, they'll ask those questions. And yeah, absolutely, those will be factored in. Yeah, because if you have health and if you have life insurance like health IQ and you were to take your own life, would that help? Yeah, that would,

and the thing to give you a year to wait, right? I think it's a two year waiting period, typically. What do you mean it's a two year waiting period? So if you buy a policy, and in the first two years you take your life, nobody gets anything. Oh, okay, so if I had it, if I've had it for 10 years of my life,

and then I took it, then I'd be, yeah, that's a different story. Not that I'm encouraging anyone to do that. Whoever your benefactor is, that's a thing. So what they're trying to prevent, well, it's very dark, but it's a reality. Well, yeah, it's a reality and it was on my mind this weekend.

That's why I was just thinking about that. And so I didn't even think like, and I know that we're sponsored by. So, I mean, yes, so health IQ, one of the reasons why they can charge so little for life insurance is because they're working with a pool of healthy individuals. So all those factors are much lower,

including things like suicide and depression, which are, it's strongly correlated to poor physical health or not exercising. So if you exercise and you eat right, the odds that you'll suffer from depression are much lower and in some studies show that exercise and diet are as effective as antidepressant drugs and in the long term, more effective.

And I think the reason why they may show that they're more effective in the long term, because of course I'm gonna side with exercise and eating, right, but I think the reason why they may be better is because of the growth, the self and personal growth that come along with the prolonged consistency with exercise and diet. So what insurance companies do is they pool all their people together.

And although you pay based on your risk factor, you also pay a little bit based on the other risk factors because they have to pay out other people. So what Health IQ did is they took a pool of all healthy people. So now they can charge less to you because you're healthy, but even less because you're low. All the other customers are low risk. So if you're a fit individual, healthy individual, and you still want life insurance, what I think is smart, then you want to go to a company that only tries to work with other healthy individuals. That's how that's why when Doug did it, it was like cheaper than all the other ones compared him to.

Yeah, and actually, Health IQ is an agency. So what they're doing is they're going out and looking at me. They're procuring me. Yeah, they're basically looking at all these different companies and they say, okay, I got somebody who's a preferred risk class as person's extremely healthy,

who can give me the best rates. And that's exactly what they're doing. So obviously the payout is different based on, like if someone took their life two years versus 10 years later, the payout's obviously... Yeah, the payout will be the same. For example, if you have a term life policy and it's a million dollar policy,

then the payout's a million dollars. The thing is, they think, well, if you're suicidal, you're not gonna wait two years, right? Right, right. So the idea is to make people wait and... I wonder if they actually have stats on that, right? That's why it's two years. Right, right, right, there's probably a... They have come up with that number. make people wait and I wonder if they actually have stats on that right? Like that's why it's two years right right.

There's a there's probably a like they have come up with that number. There's a lot of money in no factor that in. Yes. Well a lot of money knowing for sure or else anyone who's almost suicidal that has family or has to like that and thinks like, oh, I want to make sure everyone's taken care of before I go like that would be a strategy right? Like for people because at that point, you know, it's it's well, I guess you don't really care about anybody else too because your self love isn't there too. You're probably so deep in your depression.

I don't know if you're forward thinking that. I don't, I wouldn't even, well, who are we talking to? We were talking to someone and they were saying how they were talking with a friend and that the argument was, well, heaven is a place here, like on earth, and they were trying to make that argument, and they were having a debate where the other person's like, no, heaven's not here and that's not possible. And then, you know, I brought this thought to myself and I said, well, for something to exist, the opposite has to also exist. In other words, light doesn't exist without dark. You know, hot doesn't exist without cold because you don't have the contrast. Like if there was no cold, then hot wouldn't be hot. It would just be, okay. So if somebody can experience a heaven,

then on vice, the opposite to that could be true with somebody like experiencing hell. Well, my point with that was, if people think that heaven on earth or heaven, in that, in the, whatever the sense that you think heaven is, in here on earth, if they think that that's not possible, then I ask them this question, do you think being in total hell is possible on earth?

Nobody will deny that. Everybody will be like, oh, that's totally possible. Well, if that's, now, if that's possible, which I think, I mean, people who commit suicide probably lived in a hell, right? If that's possible, then so is living in a heaven. I just think it's more common to be in a hell than to be in a heaven.

That's all. I don't think it's impossible. So it actually gives me, it makes me feel good. Knowing that, oh shit, the opposite is just as, it's possible as well. Right, right. You know? Team fireproof. Right.

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Should seniors with decent health be doing foundational lifts like dead lifts, barbell, squats, bench overhead press, or focus more on functional exercise, or a mix of both? You know what I like about this? Those are functional exercises. Thank you. This highlights one of the biggest misunderstandings in exercise right now or fitness right now, which is that nothing could be more functional. Those are the most functional exercises.

Then I squat and I deadlift and arguably an overhead press. I mean that is as functional of a movement and if you cannot do that, then I think, I mean, that shouldn't be balancing on one way. That's the prerequisites for almost everything else, right? So if you can't do that exactly, you shouldn't be doing some cool mobility thing that someone you see somebody do on video,

because you already know mechanically, they're gonna be broken on that if they can't do a squat properly. And so learning how to look at your clients, mechanics in a squat or a deadlift, even if they're 90 years old, and look where they're not moving properly and then address that.

Now this is exactly why too, like we created programs like Maps Prime Pro is this really is, I think a program where I would as a trainer, training clients, I probably would refer to Prime Pro more than any other program that we've released, in my opinion, I don't know about you guys, but I mean, I don't know how many times

I had somebody with some sort of chronic pain somewhere, and because of that, it's caused dysfunction in their movement, and I was always, that's how I learned. I mean, I would see a client like that, and then I have to go dig deeper, like why is that happening, and what must I do? And must happen in the go to like initial thought for most trainers like what can I substitute this with now you know and they never really come back to the barbell training and so it becomes a thing that they just avoid versus like well what can we work on how can we build

ourselves back to where our joints are supported and stable so we can actually go through these types of you guys ever do this? Like so I used to, like it was like a, like a, advanced stage, like really advanced stage client that is just really hard time squatting. The whole workout would be revolved around trying to get them to be able to squat. Of course, yeah.

Like that's the workout. That's the goal. You bring it into... It's not like biceps and then some triceps. No, the goal is to be able to do a squat. That's it, one of the most fundamental movements. And then I'm doing all the things to complement that.

Especially the squat, getting up and down from sitting in your chair, like as you progress in age, it's such an important thing. Here's what's functional, strength. Strength is the foundation for all physical pursuits. And especially as you get older, if you look at all of the the physical ailments that that happened to

seniors or individuals in advanced age they all can get rooted back to lack of strength lack of muscle all of them so yeah bone bone density loss well That's that's a lack of strength. You're losing your balance. That's a loss of a loss of strength, lack of strength. The breaking of bone and then being, you know, bed ridden for a while, which then results in terrible outcomes, that's because you lack strength, you know, lack the strength to heal or you lack the strength to prevent yourself from hurting yourself in the first place. Then you look at all the more minor things, like your lack of individual ability, like, you know, as you get older, like, I can't reach that thing over my head anymore, or I can't

close my trunk, or I can't walk up the stairs. Like, that's all a strength issue, and senior citizens who maintain strength have far better outcomes than those that don't maintain strength. And the quality of life is way improved when they maintain strength. Dude, I got a client who I trained for about seven years and now he trains with Jessica, so he's still working out. But he's, God, how old is, he's gotta be Jim now

as I think 70. Is that the swimmer guy? Maybe 75. I think he's about to you know Jim was he actually was is that your swimmer guy you tell me he helped us film maps and a ball like only first film that he actually came and volunteered and would hold like like test the sound and stuff like that's pretty cool but I think he's like 70 I want to say 75 or maybe even 78 now but this guy swims for an hour straight every day and he's been doing it for 40 years.

So for 40 years, this is the most consistent mother fucker you've ever met in your life. Consistently, every night he'll swim for an hour lap straight like nonstop. Nice. He uses a steam in sauna every single day. Lifts weights at least three to four days a week, pretty consistently with a good level of intensity. So here you have this man who's on the upper end of 70, and I believe he's getting, yeah, I think he's like 78.

The guy never hurts himself. His balance is incredible. Can do pull-ups, can do all these different things. Got his testosterone levels checked. Tested at almost 700. Oh, it's embarrassing. Okay. Almost at 700.

Almost at 700. That's dang smart for Adam and you know He just got the flu like he just got the flu recently now the flu that's been going around Has been a pretty bad was been horrible in this year It's actually killed more people than than normal. It's been a pretty nasty one, right? So this guy gets the flu He's in the age category of people that are fucked if they get the flu like people in their you know late 70s They get the this kind of a flu.

Like, okay, everybody buckle up because this might end up bad. It might turn into some, the dude was sick for three days. Three days, he had a fever for one. In two days of rest, he's like, yeah, I just didn't swim and I call him on the phone to check on him because Jessica's like, oh, Jim didn't come into, he couldn't make his workout because he's sick.

It's a lot of mean. Yeah, it's a lot of mean. And he's old, and he's older, so I'm like, oh, shit,'t come into, you know, he couldn't make his workout because he's sick, which is, it's a lot of me. Yeah, it's a lot of me. And he's old, you know, and he's older, so I'm like, oh, shit, let me call him up. He's like, hey, what's up, buddy? I'm like, oh, fuck. You're not a bad guy.

Yeah, he's like, well, I think I might take an extra day off, but yeah, I was pretty crummy on Thursday, and this was like three days later, and now he's okay. And I'm like, you know, it makes such a tremendous difference. And the exercises that make the biggest difference on strength are the deadlift, the barbell squat, overhead presses, rows, bench press, these functional foundational movements,

they build the most muscle and they give you the most strength. And you also have to think about what makes your physical performance functional in the first place. Well, it needs to translate into everyday life. What does everyday modern life look like? Well, you gotta be able to walk, you'll be able to pick things up,

walk upstairs, balance a little bit, twist to grab something. And so you don't need to be super crazy, acrobatic circus-like with your exercises to make you functional. Those are really only functional for people who do those types of activities. So if your lifestyle involves lots of crazy balancing and all these other things, well,

yeah, you might want to do more of that because that's going to make you more functional. If you're a baseball player, there's going to be more specific movements to make you more functional as a baseball player. But if you're the average person, like nothing's more functional in this squatting. You can't, you can't, you can't get around it. That being said, I think it's important when we we say that, it doesn't mean, okay, you have this 80 year old who can't squat, their form is breaking down,

and then you hear on my pump that we keep saying they need to squat, and so you just keep, it looks low to the mouth. No, yeah, it doesn't mean you load them up, it doesn't mean you force them to squat. It means you've gotta learn, and this is again, back to mechanics. My plug here is that this is why we created

Prime and Prime Pro, was Prime has the assessment, that you can, it has a squat assessment on there, it has a hinge assessment in there, it has a rotational assessment in there, and then where they break down, it helps guide you through what you should be, what type of movements you should do to help fix that dysfunction. Now, that's what you should be putting a lot of energy on that, and then you go over a new squat, then you go put some more energy in that, then you go black and you squat. Then you put, and you pay attention to how it starts to improve their mechanics and you help them make that connection of, this is why you're not able to squat, or this is why you're low back bothers you,

this is why your knees bother you when you actually squat. It's not the squat. The exercise, yeah, it's your body. Your body is broken mechanically and notice how much better you felt after we did these prime movements, and then I took you to the squat room. You may never body breaks intention and you know where you lose communication. These are all important things and keep in mind If you have somebody in advance, they you may never get them to be able to do a full barbell squat

Like you may never get to that point. I had clients like that to Right, I had a first client. Yeah, who are in their late in their 80s who were deconditioned Yeah, just we trained for three years. Yeah, we trained three years. Never got, were never able to do a barbell squat, but we continued to work towards the goal of being able to do that, which meant tremendous improvement. I tell you something right now.

Let me ask you guys a question. How much does it cost for a correctional exercise certification from like a reputable company like 700 to a thousand plus dollars easily right? Yeah, it's up to the top. If you're a trainer and you don't own prime and prime pro you are missing out. In fact, I would say it will save you a shit ton of money

over a correctional exercise certification and you're gonna get a lot of applicable movements and stuff that you can give to your client. That I know I went through these sorts. They don't necessarily give you these kinds of things. Of course, it's all the information, the three of us, plus doctor, brink collectively have distilled in the most practical way that we could deliver it. That's the idea.

With assessments involved. The idea was, okay, let's take all this education information experience between the four of us. And how do we distill that for the average person that they can actually be able to take that and apply it to their own body or If you're a trainer, how do you take that information apply to a client? I have a question for Doug because I know Doug is more privy on the whole tax thing If you're a trainer. Yes, you could write that off wasn't say if you're a trainer you can write off certifications, right? Absolutely. Now what if you ever a trainer and you buy Absolutely. Now what if you ever train or and you buy

Material you buy like maps programs to help you with your clients guarantee him anything you're using for your business You can use as a write-off very fun. Go on a CPA I will say you know as a disclaimer. I'm not a CPA so ask your But I will say yes you can yeah, cuz I feel like if you buy especially correctional programs for I've been doing it for years If I would even buy other people's programs and write that off. Because it's still, it's getting. It's getting. Yeah, exactly. It's educational purposes towards your business.

I mean, yeah, you can definitely. Well, there you go. Next up is Michael Hargood. How to deadlift for beginners? I feel like there's a theme today. Yeah. Yeah. Such a simple, like, yeah, this is like an old school topic.

Such a simple topic, but it's important because I don't think we have addressed this in a long time. No, I don't think we have. No, so here's how I used to progress people to be able to do a deadlift. Now a deadlift was easier for me, typically, to teach than a full squat.

I just feel like it's, they're both hard to teach, but I found that a deadlift, I could progress people to a decent type of a deadlift faster than a squat because I feel like there was less involved. Oh really? I don't know, man, I just feel great. I actually had a harder time like communicating for, you know, my career in the beginning,

like hip-hinging and getting people to really understand how to do that properly and not squat their way down. That was something I had to really figure out how to articulate that better and how to translate that to the client. That was a challenge, man. Starting from scratch, there's a lot of factors involved in the deadlift that are nuanced. One thing I used to do was I would start people

with a very high deadlift. So if I had a rack, what I would do is I take a barbell, or I'd start with a stick. So if I had clients who were just weak, right? Or they didn't have, if I wasn't comfortable, even with a really, really high deadlift with them bending over and picking something up, I would just use a broomstick.

And what I would do is I set it on a rack so that it's literally many times above their knees. So they're not even, they're not even close to doing a full deadlift. They're starting at their knees, just teaching them how to pivot at the hips while maintaining stability in their core. So their low back is in that natural

arch position, not over arched and not obviously in a rounded position. Nice tall chest, grab the stick, brace your core, pause, wait for my cue and slowly drive through the floor with your legs and stand up nice and tall. And I would cue and cue and cue. And once I felt comfortable with that, I didn't add weight, I would lower the bar down a little bit, and then we would practice from there. Until we got to a point where they were deadlifting low enough, to then what I would do is I wouldn't add weight to the bar,

I would go and transition to a sumo deadlift with a kettlebell or something. Because it's just an easier position. Yeah, I would actually start with the stick kind of similar, but I'd start with the stick actually up their spine. And that's what I would do. Yeah, and then I would get them to understand how to brace and actually pull back.

And then I would use the wall to see, I would have them keep their knees neutral and then have them pull their hips back so they could try to get their glutes to the wall that even understand what hip hinging. So I would feel like a technique to help that. Yours is closer to mine. So I break it all the way down first to a prone floor bridge first.

So they can have the assistance of gravity. They're laying on the floor. They have feedback and they can understand that keeping the back rigid while also hinging at the hips. Just getting that communication first and then from there, I'll pick them up. I'll do something similar where you're saying, Justin is I'll put the stick on the three points on their back so they know how to keep that rigid. And then I'll take a really light band around their waist and I'll just do like a stick or a barbell and deadlift. And I want, so the band is pulling their hips back. Yeah, I've seen people do that.

Right. And so, and then, I'll, I'll take a little assistance to pull it. Yes, exactly. So I'll cue by kind of hitting them right in the hips and say, you know, hip slide back. It teaches that process. Keep these three points.

Yeah. And the bands assisting the pulling back so it feels more natural. That's great. It's a good one. And so, that, we should do a YouTube on that. We should do a YouTube on that. I'm a good one. Do a, I, cause I don't think I've taught. How did a good one. And so that YouTube on that, we should do a YouTube on my day.

I'm a good one. Do it. Because I don't think I've taught. How did Deadlift for beginners? That was a great, yeah. No, because I could visually see that. And I've seen people actually coach that. And I think it's very helpful.

Because like that whole process in the beginning, I think that people see and they perceive, you know, somebody actually performing the exercise, but they don't really know what they look like as they're performing it. Mechanically, I think that's why, I mean, they're both close, right? Squad and deadlifting is for sure,

I mean, we could say here in argue all day, which one's harder, but they're both are just very, very challenging. Deadlifting, I think deadlifting to me because it's mostly all posterior chain, you know, I'm saying it's very, very little anterior driven squads get a little bit more anterior, so I feel like people are a little more comfortable.

Plus, you're being the muscles of the back, you're not. Right, right. You're being the muscles behind you. Yeah, we're so disconnected back there that I feel like it's just so foreign to people. Which came more naturally to you guys when you first are working out? Squats or deadlifts? Well, deadlifts came naturally. Squats, me too.

Yeah, really. Yeah, deadlifts took a lot of work. The first time I picked up a bar, I think I was in a little deadlift three and a half. So you want to know why that was? What I unpacking that, why? Why did I have an easier time with dead lifts than squatting when I was first learning? Because both of them are arguably very challenging

is the position of my hips. Because I already have an excessive anterior punk tilt, so it kind of helped me keep that rigid back when I would slide the hips back. And actually, when I slide back into a deadlift, and because I already have the hips in that excessive kind of Lord dose is going, it kind of sets me back into this pervary position.

I think that's why I was really good at pulling right out the gates. Well, I think with sports in particular, like I know being in certain positions, I was always up on my toes and ready to react left to right, you know, that position that you're supposed to be somewhat squatted and responsive. So either I'm playing baseball, I'm playing basketball, I'm playing football, like I was always up on the four foot. And so, you know, everything's the anterior

driven. So I would just drop right in. And yeah, like really activated my post to your chain with something I had to work at. Yeah, deadlift for me were the first time I ever deadlifted, I was probably 16. So I started working out of 14, 16. It was the first time I deadlifted and there were power lifters that showed me how to pull. And I pulled three plates. It was very natural.

I just got into it and just lifted it up and it's always been a very natural movement for me. Squats, not so much. Yeah, I know very natural movement for me squats. Not so much. Yeah, I know I'm with you on that. I've... I've... I've... I've...

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I'm saying like, I was just broken mechanically for my squats. It just I think it has a lot to do with your posture already. It does, it does. And there was a point where I got, it was good at front squats, but back squats were always more difficult for me, which is fucking weird, right? It's always the other way around. Front squats are so hard. Yeah, particularly. Well, they're hard because it's hard

You to balance up there, but it's actually I mean, I think we've all found this right? I mean, I teach a goblet squad or a front squat sometimes when someone's really struggling with a barbell back squat because it forces you up Right like if you're a if you're a heavy chest falling forward all the time So but this would be a a really listening to everybody's tips because everybody's tips are fucking solid. You know, those are all money tips. And I think we've all probably tried or played around with a lot of them.

That'll be a good video. Yep. Next up, Miss Fit and Nerdy. Miss Fit and Nerdy. Yeah. She's in our forms. Yeah, yeah. What exactly do you mean when you talk about

priming your central nervous system? Trying to understand exactly how maps prime works. So I'm going to tell you a little story about peep charlatans in the mall that connects to this. So some magnet. Oh, dude. So I years ago, do you guys remember when it was all popular in baseball for people who wore those stupid copper rings?

Yes, it was like this makes you pitch faster whatever. So there was one of those kiosks in the mall where this guy was selling these magnetic bracelets and necklaces and apparently they improved your performance. And so he stops me and he's like, Hey man, you should of course, I'm in fitness and stuff. So I'm like, Oh, it's gonna be great. And he's like, Hey man, check this out. This is like, increases your performance. This is like what the guys in the, you know, MLB'm in fitness and stuff. So I'm like, oh, that's gonna be great. And he's like, hey man, check this out. This is like, increases your performance.

This is like what the guys in the, you know, MLB are wearing. This and that. And I'm like, oh, really? I'm like, how does it work? And he tries to give me this bullshit pitch about the, what it's made out of is this, this specially processed metal that, you know, whatever, you know, lines up with the, the sun and the quasars

and whatever. So I'm like, okay. So he goes, no, no, check this out. Check out this test. It's really cool. So he says, stand on one foot, balance, and put one arm out. So I stand on one foot and I extend one arm. And then he pushes on my arm and I kind of tip over.

And he says, okay, now put this, and then he puts the brace that on me real quick. And then he says, now stand on one leg and do that again. So then I stand on it again and he tries to push my arm down and I have much better balance. So at the time, I was, I don't remember who I was with, and they were, I forgot I was on one of my cousins and they're like, Oh shit, that's crazy. Like, how does that fucking work, dude?

And I'm like, yeah, and I'm like, well, let me ask you a question. If I had you balance, walk across a balance beam and do one practice run and then try it again, which one do you think would be better? And he's like, uh, the, well, the second one. I'm like, well, why do you think you got better the second time? Oh, well, I don't, I'm like, cause your central nervous system is adapting.

You're calling upon it to fire muscles and work in a particular way to give you better balance, which is why I can literally improve someone's balance immediately. Now that doesn't mean it's gonna be permanent, but for sure, practice your balance and within five minutes you're gonna balance better than the first time You know what that reminds me of is the what were the name of those guys from LA that when we down They stick their finger in my mouth. Oh the human garage. Yes. That wasn't his finger

That was like one of those things where he kept going we kept going back to the table And then he would do something hurt me and then we get up and walk look how much better you're walking It's like you know that reminds me it's like when someone's like oh man My shoulder really hurts then you punch him in the face and you're like this is your shoulder still feeling your shoulder still hurt Like no, no, no, no, so your central nervous system is adapting and that's why same reason why if you stretch You can gain you know several inches in range of motion. Immediately. Immediately.

I could take someone, I could test their hamstring out, and then I could stretch them for 30 minutes, and they'll be way more flexible instantly. Now again, it doesn't mean it's permanent, but what I'm doing is I'm changing it, adding tension. I mean, you're just heightening, like you're getting the central nervous system more responsive. It's communicating at a louder frequency. So for misfit and nerdy, the central nervous system is what controls your muscles. It's the operating system.

It is what determines how much your muscles are allowed to extend and stretch, how hard they can contract, how much they can relax, and how all of the muscles can communicate with the relax and how all of the muscles communicate with the, how all of the muscles that should say fire and what pattern they fire and how hard they fire. And there's a lot more that goes into it's much more complex than that, but that's kind of a general easy to understand.

Right down. You're a central and your speaker and amplifier analogy, I think is one of the best analogies to explain the CNS. I think that's, yeah, so the CNS is the amplifier and the muscles are speakers. So the amp is what puts out the power and causes the sound to come out of the speaker. So what you're doing before you work out

can encourage more optimal central nervous system operating or firing. So if I'm going to do a bench press and I prime my personal body, by the way, how you prime your body is quite individual because what one person may need, another person, it might be the opposite of what the other person needs. So when I prime my body based on my own recruitment patterns, my own, you know, structural deviations or recruitment pattern issues or whatever, when I do that to myself and I do it right, now my body's going to fire more optimally when I do these big, you know, important exercises like squats, deadlifts, overhead presses

or whatever. And because I'm firing better, my results are going to be better, both because I'm able to activate more muscle fibers and also because I'm encouraging good recruitment patterns the entire time. So I'm reducing my risk of injury and better form just equals better results all the way around. Another way to look at it is like you guys ever had your arm fall asleep when you when you wake up and your arms completely dead and it's mostly because you've had a stranger. Right, so imagine if you were to wake up and you feel we've all probably had this happen. I think everybody's had their arm fall asleep before, right?

So if you wake up and you have a baseball, right, right, right next to your bed and you wake up and your arm fall asleep and you grab the baseball and the goal is to throw it, throw it as accurately as possible. And you did it with no time in between. You get up from a sleepy arm and you have everyone knows what that would look like. I can even use your arm for a few seconds until your body, until that CNS starts to get reconnected back over there. Now, think of you, you can set up and you sit there and you articulate your fingers and you get them moving. So at that, give it about 30 seconds to a minute,

two minutes, and then you grab the body, throw it, which one's going to be way more accurate, right? Think of the same way as your body, is it's kind of, when we're not firing muscles properly, in a sense it kind of goes to sleep. And by you priming it properly, you're getting those muscles, you're articulating those muscles, you're getting them to fire right, and then thinking how much better you're gonna have

your workout. Well, I think too, yeah, like everybody kind of knows when they, like bench press for instance, like I've gone through a process back in the day where I would take at least three or four sets before I knew, okay, I'm ready, and I'm warm to now start adding a substantial amount of load. That's a form of priming.

It's a form of priming, but it's not as specific. There's a way to make that process even more specific. It's a rudimentary way of priming right? Right. So say I just needed to retract my shoulders and depress them more, to stabilize my shoulder joint and that lift. Well, I could prime that specifically so much more effectively going into now bench pressing where that's going to be something, okay, wow, I'm ready. You know, I'm responsive. That's right.

I think that only works to when you're somebody who really understands mechanics well, because what you're doing when you're doing that first sets one, two, and three is each set, you're getting better and better into your form and you're in the groove of it. Right, you're getting in the groove and you know what the right groove feels like. Where if you're the average Jaina Joe, and you don't know what the fifth is. Yeah, you don't keep priming be done improperly? Absolutely. You can prime your body in a way that makes it less.

This is where injury happens. How many times has somebody done a bench press that they've done a hundred times before, but this time they fucked their shoulder up? Well, that's because their body wasn't primed properly. Here's the difference between prim and primed pro, by the way, prim is what we're talking about. Primed pro is correctional exercise

to help treat injury or other problems. It's addressing each individual joint. Yeah, this is primal exercise to help treat in addressing each individual. Yeah, this is prime is literally teaching how to prime your workouts. How big of a difference does this make? A massive fucking difference. A, I remember as a personal trainer putting this together and training my clients in this particular way where I see them, I'd prime them.

Boom, we do a squat or a deadlift or whatever. Form was good, everything was firing better and the progress was just so much better as a result of the expeditions process. This is why when I wrote Maps and Obolic, which I think I created five years ago, maybe long ago. Yeah, six years ago.

When I created Maps and Obolic, phase one of Maps and Obolic starts with one or two sets of box squats before you go into heavy barbell squats because I knew that Generally speaking that's gonna prime more people better to do a box squat first and then did you regular squat so they can teach their hips or get their hips to prime and fire better now It's not very individualized Taking it a million steps further maps prime. We were able to put in a million steps further, maps prime, we were able to put in, like, you know, a compass test that individualizes

priming for each individual person, which was a big challenge. I'm gonna be honest with you. Yeah. Like teaching how to prime for lifts is so dependent on the individual that we thought it would be impossible to write a program. It was our hardest program we did.

For sure. To date, for sure. For sure, 100% took the most to get that program out. No, I think that not only is, is priming huge and learning how to do it for you personally, but that get, that compounds as you get older. Like the, the, the, because I think it's a young, if you're listening and you're like 17 to 25 and you're, you're going like, I got no injuries, my workouts are good. Like, I just want to know the news per, pre workout or give me the newest fucking program

you design. Like, that's all they want to hear. It's like, but you don't realize how important this is now because your body's not talking to you yet, it's not forcing you to make it a priority, it will eventually. And if you can start to put in a practice now early on, you'll have to put less time into it, right? Instead of having a prime, like if I have a 80 year old client who's never taken care of their posture, their mechanics from the whole hour could end up being kind of like priming it

and trying just to get them to walk properly or just get them to be able to squat down probably. The whole fucking session is a prime. And so that's an example of how it compounds. Now if you're someone who's 25, it might be, there's a couple moves that you do that really makes a difference that makes you bench better or squat better That you implement now because it gets you into better alignment that you start doing and you make a habit before you train every time

And it will never become a problem It'll be something that you actually stay stay on top of but eventually if you don't address this Because none of us are in this Perfect form right we're not in this like to squat or deadlift all day long We're constantly twisting moving moving, rounding, sitting, slouching. We're creating all these bad recruitment patterns and then we're going in the gym and then we're expecting ourselves to all sudden, we go into a perfect form. Like, no, it's not going to happen that way. So that's priming is extremely important.

Next question is from Mike Narducci. What is the best way to train grip strength for all around activities or lifts? Is there any merit to the various grip training devices geared toward rock climbers and OCR athletes? That's another person that likes to do activities like you. Yeah, it's so many activities. That's so funny. Nobody knows where you're talking about.

Yeah. It's Mike and Narducci. It's one of my people. So before we get into, well, first off with grip strength, it wasn't that long ago where a man's strength was measured by his grip. For a long time, it was all about your grip. And we all know the old adage, a firm handshake.

Oh, yeah, that handshake was always the, you know, you get the old guy that's killing you. And if you're like, dude, really? And this is, there's some, that's the same thing. They're crushing me. There's some truth is to why men were measured by their grip strength or why that was such an important thing.

Your grip, your hands or what connect you, literally what connect you to the world. So regardless of how strong your back and your chest and your shoulders and your legs are, if you can't hold on to things, it'll always be your limiting factor. You're done, you're fucked. So strong hands are extremely functional for life

indefinitely for many, many types of sports. On that point alone, sorry to interrupt you, but I think it's so important to point out is that that's why I think the feet are too. The feet in the hands, arguably, and I think that something I didn't think about as a early trainer, so that's why I wanted to stop you and make that point. My thought process is totally different now. Now I would look at those things, like, man, which hands are the first point of contact.

Right, hands, we use them so much so we don't see it as much, right? Because everybody has decently strong hands. Well, at least they're not like crazily dysfunctional. Like everybody's feet are. Yeah, like everybody's feet are, right? But those two areas are that important. So, so hand strength and grip strength is extremely important. Also, we know that humans are primates, so we did,

although our hands evolved to be able to articulate our joints and to manipulate small things and to throw things really well. We also have ancestors that were climbing and swinging in trees, which means the potential for tremendous grip strength is actually quite high and it should not be your limiting factor. It shouldn't be what limits you from doing heavy lifts and heavy pulls. In fact, your grip should be able to keep up with your body If you allow it to train if you train it with your body Well in fact that's usually that's my own personal measure of like when to progress is I have to make sure my grip can

You know Keep up with that weight. You know otherwise. I feel like I haven't earned that weight yet. That's right So here's the thing with strength. There's the strength that's concentric. So that's the ability to shorten a muscle. So that would be like squeezing something. Like my hands are literally going from open to closed. Then there's the isometric strength,

which is just holding a contracted position. And then there's the eccentric strength, which is the ability to go from close to slowly opening with weight. We don't need to worry about that. Let's focus on the other two first. The ability to close your hand, and then the ability to hold a closed hand, both of which

are important to train, both of them which communicate with each other. And there's definitely carry over. But both are quite unique in the sense that you could have somebody who's extremely strong at squeezing and closing definitely carry over, but both are quite unique in the sense that you could have somebody who's extremely strong at squeezing and closing their hand, but might not have the isometric strength of holding a grip like somebody who, let's say, is maybe a jujitsu fighter or a rock climber, for example, because it's a very unique type of strength.

Now, arguably the type of grip strength that's more important is the ability to hold, to hold a grip. Because I think functionally speaking, if you think of all the things you use your hands with, there's definitely moments where you need to actually move and squeeze your hand, like if you're operating heavy scissors or pliers and stuff like that, like I get that. But more often than not, it's just being able to hold on to something without letting go. That's important. So you do wanna train both of those things, and you do wanna treat it if grip strength is a priority

like a separate body part. So if I'm doing my workout, and let's say I'm doing a full body workout, or even if I'm doing biceps or whatever, make sure you dedicate some time to working on your grip, but start slow because if you haven't worked directly on your grip, it's really easy to overdo. Oh yeah, really easy.

And it sucks because when you overdo working on your hands, you get that, what is that, tennis elbow? You know, where you get it at the points of your elbow? That's right up there, it's tools. I would do rice buckets and farmer walks. That was gonna say, farmer walks all day. Yeah, farmer walks and then rice buckets. Rice buckets I like because it would sell them

at a great point on it is that you kind of get everything there. And so that'll kind of help keep it. So how do you use a rice bucket? So you just like a, you know, like a, well five gallons overkill, but you don't need a whole five going. You get like a big, one of those big bags of rice from Costco poured in a nice bag that's deep enough

to where your hands can sink all in and you just you move your hands around for time. So you put them in the sand. Yeah, you put them in. Yeah, you put your sand to it. Yeah, sand would work. Yeah, sand or rice, and you're moving them around. You're opening, you're closing, you're stretching the fingers out, you're just constantly doing that and you do it for time. And if you like you said, you've never done it before, you know, don't start with five minutes of it. You won't even be able to make that. But, you know, get in there, exercise it for a while. Then when you start, it starts to really burn, probably rest for a few, few, few seconds or a minute, go back ahead again, do a couple rounds of that,

progress that way that'll be, that'll keep. Dude, if you're an OCR racer, your grip is so important. I, every, so far everyone I've seen, I can, like, that's the limiting factor on all of them, right? Yeah. Is there an ability to hold on to those people can, yeah, they can endure and they can go through that process, but yeah, the grip strength is, that's usually where you see people just like, oh, it's a kill.

Don't forget, there's a genetic component too. I mean, when you look at someone like Ben Greenfield, he was meant to have. Maybe, or that motherfucker's been climbing shit forever, dude. Well, yeah, no, but I think he's long and lanky, too. Physically changed, yeah, his hands and dude. I'll tell you what, how many people, how many men do you know that have work construction of their whole life, right?

Yeah, quite a few. Do all of them not have like ridiculous hands? Oh, ridiculous grips. Every single one of my dad's hands are like bricks. He's been working with his hands since he was nine years old. Until this day when I grab, and he doesn't lift weights or he's retired now, when I grab his hand, I know that if you wanted to,

he could break one of my fingers because his hands have just thickened and strengthened as a result of all these different, you know, of working with his hands for so long. So here's one of my favorite movements, this super, super easy one. You take a piece of paper, it used to be a newspaper, but you could. So here's one of my favorite movements. It's a super, super easy one. You take a piece of paper, it used to be a newspaper, but you'd like to try and find one of those nowadays,

but get a big piece of paper and crumple it from the corner with one hand and slowly bring the paper in and try to crumple the whole thing into a big ball and squeeze it and then get another one. So you're starting from the corner. It is an old school strong man. I've never done that. It's an old school strong man exercise where you start from the corner and you squeeze,

squeeze, squeeze until you get the entire piece of paper. It's funny. You guys remember the old rope in, yeah, I remember that. That was like the only version of grip training I did back in the day. But I remember that was like Arnold or somebody was doing that and so I would do that. Another one I used to do is, I used to use my, my Jiu-Jitsu key for this, but you can use two towels, is you take two towels and you hang them over a pull-up bar and then grab the towels and then hang or do pull-ups like that. And it's a very different stress on your grip

to hold those things. So you can either hold them by wrapping them by, by grabbing them like almost like a tube. So hold them by grabbing them like a tube so you grab the whole towel like a tube or you can grab them if you're a Jiu-Jitsu judo got like a ghee where they roll it where they go inside your fingers a little bit and then do pull up and do you cheat anything on any levels can help gain strength in that direction. Something I've been told many, many times by the way from friends of mine that were women and girls and stuff is that that they find hands and in forums very attractive. Like that's a thing apparently.

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