Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 734: How to Cool Down After Training, the Low Sex Drive Epidemic, Central Nervous System Fatigue & MORE

Episode Date: March 24, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about whether or not young men are losing their sex drive, what it means to fatigue the Central Nervous System, what constitutes a quality cool down for resistance training and how a sedentary lifestyle has become the new smoking. In new territory I haven’t experienced in a while. Sal explains his exhaustion going back into high rep ranges, stepping out of comfort zones and the guys discuss communicating transparency posting their workouts. (4:15) Makes them feel better about themselves. First experiences with bullying and the right time to stand up for yourself. (21:55) Comedy should not be censored. Should someone go to jail for freedom of speech? The guys share their opinions on latest viral video, the power of perception and letting things out in the open. (33:32) Quality material. Adam gets some new Vuori gear and the importance of the fit on the body. (52:37) Breakthrough study…Weight training helps maintain muscle mass in overweight adults. Why this highlights how the medical establishment is so behind with the times and the benefits of seeking out quality information yourself. (54:49) Quah question #1 – Do you think young men are losing their sex drive? (1:02:29) Quah question #2 – Could you explain what it means to fatigue the Central Nervous System? (1:12:01) Quah question #3 - What constitutes a quality cool down for resistance training? (1:20:52) Quah question #4 – Thoughts on how a sedentary lifestyle has become the new smoking? 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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, M twist, dude. We got into the fitness and we talked about our personal shit going on. We had a good time. We talked about high rep training, or at least my adventures in high rep training. We talked a lot about snatch grip deadlifts, heavy deadlifts and the benefits of training outside of your comfort zone. Actually Adam shares a story of a couple of years ago,

how he added a couple inches to his back through heavy training. We talked about standing up for yourself and turning the other cheek. Don't get bullied. We talked about the Nazi saluting pug and freedom of speech. This is a real thing. This is actually all over the place. It's actually happening. We throw him in jail. Yeah. We talked about how our environment, experience, and media shapes our perception of people and the world. It's important you examine that often so that you don't have preconceived notions that

are not accurate. We talked about Adam's new Viori shirt. It's very nice. It's what it looks like in fly today. Very slick. It's a nice salmon color. Matching my cherry blossoms. We are sponsored by Viori.

If you go to Viori clothingism, if you go to VioriClothing.com-myandpump, you get 25% off. Again, that's Viori spelled V-U-O-R-I clothing.com-for-slash-myandpump. And then I uncover the Harvard study that was just published that blew everyone's mind mind blowing study crazy crazy study would never have put those two together sky is still so glad they invest money in studies like this then we get into the questions the first question was is it true that young men today are losing their sex drive. This particular individual and her roommate have noticed

that dudes just don't wanna have sex like they used to. It tragically, tragically sex- And she's a little frustrated. Trying to get some. Don't DM her, please. Yeah, yeah. You could find her at tender under the bed. No, no.

Next question was, can we explain what it means to fatigue the central nervous system and our some exercises more likely to cause that type of fatigue? Little controversy there, great conversation. The next question was, we talk a lot about priming and mobility warm-ups, but we don't really talk a whole lot about what you do after the workout. Is it as important to have a good cool down as it is to have a good priming warm up. Yeah, chill out, man.

And finally, what are our thoughts on how the sedentary lifestyle is now becoming the new smoking? It's probably better that you smoke cigarettes, be honest. Believe it or not, say, wow. Believe it or not, my bump is sponsored by Marble. Yeah, exactly. We're rich, you imagine. They have to pay us a lot of money.

I want to be camel Joe. Yeah. Believe it or not, if you sit down for six hours or more a day, that's equivalent to smoking a packet cigarette according to a 2014 study of over 120,000 people. We talk about that in this episode. Also, this month, still going on, get free access to our private forum. It's our crown jewels, what we have, that we value the most. There's lots of smart,

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we have you build your butt bundle, or if you want everything planned out for you and you're super serious about your fitness, you can get the maps super bundle, which is one year of exercise programming all planned out for you. All of this can be found at mindpumpmedia.com. I'm sore man. Fucking sore muscles. Sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss or sphincter. I've been, takes things, thanks, thanks, Jason. No muscle, that is a muscle, isn't it?

It is a muscle. It is a muscle. No, that was not expressing the muscle. No, that's that, you know, there's several sphincter muscles in your body. Yeah. Sphincters are basically muscles that they contract, they close up a hole, like that, then you push it.

Just in case you didn't know. Right. No, I'm sore because I'm in territory that I usually don't go into, Justin. You know exactly what I'm talking about. Oh yeah. It's that high rep territory. Yeah.

It's horrific. It's terrible. Some people enjoy it though. I mean, they're all eye-to-eye. They're all eye-to-eye. I use, he's that's exactly what it is. So I love that way of training for such a long time. You guys were the ones that really pushed me

out of my comfort zone to, I never trained in the one to five rep range. We tried to convert you really hard. Ever, yeah, and I did. And I was full. They all have benefit. And now I hate the high rep because you guys, it's all your fault.

I'm like, man, I wish I could get back you always and like you were high high rap like 1520 bro I was so low rep range for me would fall in the Single sets of eight to 10 reps which I rarely low rap that was low reps And then I would normally build up to 15 and then I would build up to a lot of super setting where I do a heavy 10 reps And then I do a 15 light rep and I would super set all the extras. Yeah, so I was high volume. No, no, I mean, I know the benefit. I know the benefits of it.

I just don't like it because it's exhausting. Yeah. And you got to go ahead and light. It's a shock. It's a shell shock. You get a different shakiness. You know what I mean? So I did high rep, snatch grip, dead lifts.

Well that's exhausting. When's the last time you do a snatch grip dead lift? I've just doing it actually two days ago. We're involved. We're involved in inspiring those as of late. Yeah, I know. So what do you get from, what do you feel from them when you do them?

Oh, my upper back to them. Yeah, my, and my lats, I actually, when I go really wide like that, it really, I can feel my lats already really engaged. Just trying to stabilize that. Yeah, when I'm conventional in my EVE like a normal standard grip, I really have to think about bending the bar

to activate the lats where when I go really wide, naturally the lats are already kind of stretched out so I feel them already engaged and then my upper back when I do. Now, are you doing a hook grip when you're out there? Or are you doing a regular grip? Just a standard grip. Because I noticed my grip too.

It works my grip totally different. Oh, it's challenging. Very different because when I grip something, I have a lot of strength with the last, with my last three fingers or whatever. No, but you're losing that on a wide grip. On a wide grip, it's your ring finger and your thumb. So I'm totally, it's totally different for me.

Yeah, it's pretty cool. But I'm going light as fuck. Like I'm doing sets of 20 reps and I'm doing like. 135. Yep, yep, yep. Which is, I mean, for deadlifts for me, that's how you might as well give me nothing. But no, it wasn't.

20 reps of that shit. And I'm like, oh yeah. See, that's interesting. I've been going more getting back into power movements. And so, explosive power. Yeah, like cleans and push presses and, you know, yeah, stuff like that. So just getting that like explosivity back in the mix.

And that's been a shell shock for me. But then again, it's been a little bit of my comforts. I haven't been there in a long time though. So I did get pretty sore, man. Like, I'm sore. I was doing a lot of Jane Fonda stuff, you know, like, sing my root tea. I'm writing my root, so I'm trying to like track and I know... You're putting it in your story.

Yeah, I'm trying to put it in my story so people can kind of follow along when I'm doing it. Yeah, those jazz exercises work out, it's fucking hard. And I'm not gonna lie, I'm writing them so I feel like I should fudge these numbers, because this is such a pussy ass workout. But I don't, I keep it real so people know, so fuck you, you know what I'm saying? If you're looking at it, you're like, that's a, no, we can't. No, you know what, it's funny because I remember that, I remember posting on Instagram, if you're going light or whatever, you don't want to, you're almost like naturally you want

to be like, well, I've gone heavier before. What did I use the numbers I've used before? Right. But then, you know, as far as, you know, part of me is like, well, I wanna also communicate this to people because I want them to do it the right way. No, I'm not saying. 100% and I think that's where the transparency with that is so important because I personally believe

that most people inflate a lot of their numbers, their sets, their reps, and why I don't like it is because it feeds this problem that we already have of people over training and beast mode. It's like super hero scene. Yeah. So now I'm like, you know what? I know as much as that my ego tells me I want to say, oh, well, I normally can deadlift

this, but I'm doing this like, no, this is, I'm doing two sets of this. I'm only doing 135 pounds. It's really, but I mean, I tell you what, like my body's already changing in four workouts. I mean, if it's four workouts and my body is starting to change now, I think it's also important to that people know that the change is really slow. It's just answering a question on one of our DMs. And, you know, someone's like, hey, they're telling me their core can take, what their fit bit is telling them the burning, they're telling me where their calories are at,

and then they're telling me that they're not seeing a lot of change. And I said, well, what do you mean by you're not seeing a lot of change? Well, my weight hasn't changed that much. I said, well, if you're in a good solid 900 to 1000 calorie restriction every day, and you're now following maps and strength training right now,

you shouldn't see a huge change on the scale. In fact, if you saw a major change in the scale, I would tell you you're probably doing something wrong because you shouldn't be like drastically losing weight. Your body now is getting a new signal sent to it to adapt and change and grow and build muscle. So you're probably building a little bit of muscle and you're probably also losing a little bit of body fat,

which in turn is showing you on the scale, little to no change. So I think a lot of people don't, that doesn't register. People only realize the difference between, and you can find this online, you can actually find this, they've done pictures like this where you'll see a man who's six foot tall,

200 pounds with muscle, and then you'll see a six foot tall man, 200 pounds with no muscle, and how different they look. And they'll have one with the female, right? This woman's 140 pounds, this woman's 140 pounds. Both way the same, different body composition, you look way different, way different. The other thing you wanna keep in mind,

and I always forget to communicate this because I feel like I've said it so many times that I take for granted, I think, oh people know this. Well, they don't. Fat is volumous. It takes up a lot of space. So if you have 10 pounds of body fat,

it takes up a lot more space than 10 pounds of muscle. So even if you, let's just say, you know, for whatever reason you worked at, you've got the most excellent programming, your diets excellent, you've got great genetics. And you gain 10 pounds of muscle while simultaneously losing 10 pounds of body fat. Those are big numbers, okay, but let's just say that happened.

The scale would look exactly the same. Your closed size would go down by probably two or something like that, you know? You know, it's a huge difference in your size because muscle is so much more dense. And at the end of the day, the scale, it's a piece of information that you can use, but it's only one piece of information.

You can't use it by itself. It doesn't tell you much. All it tells you is your total mass. But look, here's a deal. Cut your leg off. Oh, I've lost 20 pounds, right? Your total mass has gone down, but is that the kind of weight you want to lose?

I like to use that example as well. But it makes it, yeah. But as far as the training is concerned with the reps, like I was talking about earlier, one thing that I love about doing this is whenever I go outside of my comfort zone, and I see how poorly I perform, I know, because I've experienced this so many times now.

I know that there's a huge curve of upward curve of progress coming. You know what I'm saying? Like if I always train low reps and I add one rep to my lift or I add five pounds, like that's a cool gain. Like well, I got stronger, I gained five pounds, but because I've been pushing that for so long, that's about the extent of the gain I'm going to make. When I switch to high reps and I do 20 reps with the snatch grip of dead lifts, you know, with 135 pounds because I'm getting used to the reps or whatever, I know for a fact next week I'm probably going to be able to add 30 to 40 pounds and do the same reps, I know

that. And with the same feeling of intensity, and I know the following week I'll probably gonna be able to add 30 to 40 pounds and do the same reps. I know that. And with the same feeling of intensity, and I know the following week, I'll probably be able to add another 20 or 30 pounds. That's just myself, by the way. But Matt, think about that. The gains that you make because of that upward curve of adaptation that happens.

So it's so effective to train in all these different areas. Lasty encouraging part, because it is more uncomfortable, you know, because it's such a shock doing something that drastically different than what you're comfortable with. And then your body adapts. Your body adapts that you have to lean on that fact. Well, I'll tell you about the shift and mentality that you have to have in order to apply that,

because that's really tough to do. I mean, you get attached to the weight you lift. Right, most people, we get in the groove of working out. If you're just now getting started on your health and fitness journey or you've been out the loop for a long time and now you're remotivating and going back in, there's nothing, when you first start, there's nothing worse than that feeling when you first start. But to be honest, this is when the greatest change is happening. When your body is really changing as that beginning process of this new adaptation of this new signal that you're sending it,

that you hadn't been sending it to for months or potentially years before that. And yet, then all of a sudden we get some momentum, weeks go by, maybe a month or two goes by, you've lost some good weight. Now your workouts are getting fun. Your workouts are easy. You know what I'm saying?

Or like, you get, it's easy for you to get in the groove and in reality, like we should have already probably moved on to another phase or a new adaptation and focus, but because nobody wants to seek that right after you just got good at, you know, whatever rep range or whatever mode out. And that's why the, like our maps programs, for example,

the reason why we put phases and the phases are, and usually three weeks long, sometimes longer, four, or five weeks, the reason why we length, we set them up for that length of period of time is because that first week is really learning that new range. You're kind of getting into it, you're getting that new range, you're feeling it. You're not trying to push your body too hard.

I mean, it's a new range. Look, if I pushed my body with the same kind of hardcore intensity that I can do with low reps when I go to 15 to 20 reps, what's gonna happen is my form's gonna go to shit and I'm going to not feel very good. I'm gonna overdo it because it's a new range. So that first week, that first week is me like practicing and getting used to the range. So although the workout's hard, I know I have to pull back a little bit to get used to it. Now the second week, I start to push myself a little bit and by the

third week now I can push myself really hard, and that entire time, I'm getting this really fast upswing of adaptation. I remember, I remember, it was probably about two, two and a half years ago, right? You know, Adam was, at that time, you're still competing as a pro-physic competitor, and then you started going, messing around with the low repetitions

and heavy weight, and I remember you going heavy on your deadlifts, and your dead started going, messing around with the low repetitions and heavy weight. And I remember you going heavy on your deadlifts and your deadlift weight, you added like 150 pounds in a short per time. Oh, more than that, it was crazy. I was almost adding 25 to 50 pounds every week. Every time I revisited, it blew me away. It's because you never,

I mean, not that you never, but you had it in a long time. Well, I really never had put, I never, even when I deadlifted in the past, I was high rep deadlifting, eight to 12 reps, always. I never compromised, like, I was so about my mechanics and the, you know, isolating certain muscles

and being a bodybuilder type of way I've trained for a very long time, that even when I incorporated deadlifts, it was never, I never put that CNS focus of like, okay, I'm going to go after really trying to adapt that way versus, you know, always being so perfectly mechanically. Let's see how much I, if I call upon my body to rip up 400, 500 pounds, can't it do it in driving that? And man, I remember each week going, like surprising myself, like, the amount of muscle you gain in your back

was pretty comical. And especially at that level, you've been training for so long, it's cool to see that you can make it switch like that, which is really, it's actually a very simple, you know, straightforward change. But then I remember, remember, you took the picture of your back before and after it,

and it was only like months, it wasn't like you did it, and nothing changed other than before and after it? Right, yeah. And it was only like months. It wasn't like you didn't, and nothing changed other than that. And it was like boom, it looked like all the five pounds of muscle you gained was all there, which probably was. Well, it would trip me out. And this, I remember we talked about this a couple of years ago.

This is fucking true story, no exaggeration. I've always, my back was always kind of a stronger part. I've always been able to do rep out pull ups, I've always been able to lap pull down good, T-Bar row good, been over row good. I've always been able to do rep out pull-ups, I've always been able to pull down good, T-Bar row good, been over row good. I've always been able to do all these things. I've always had a pretty strong back. And when I would do a seated cable row

at the gym, I'm at a good amount of weight. There's about 180, 200 pounds or so. I think the thing maxes out at like 300. So that's a good amount of weight that I would be moving for rowing. And I used to have to even strap up to hold onto that and do that kind of way. When I got, when I started to become really focused

on deadlift and this is when I was kind of chasing you and seeing, okay, let's see if I actually applied myself to build strength in my deadlift. Can I catch up or get even close to Sal? And I remember like applying that. I totally just stopped seated row. Like it just was no longer an important lift. It was not my focus of adaptation.

I wanted to get good at deadlifting. And so everything that I did was to compliment that. And I remember being, I don't know, it was at least six, eight months before I actually came back and grabbed the seated row. And I remember thinking in my head, like, well, I haven't done this in a really long time, probably start a little bit lighter and see my back strength as that, because I know I haven't

done the exact row. Sure, I'm dead living, sure, I'm doing other things like that, but I know I hadn't rode, so I wasn't expecting to sit there and be able to even do close to what my max has been for. And I remember grabbing it and starting it like at 150 and I was like, whoa, this is really alive. It was like, okay, I wore my mother and then I was like, let's push like 180. I was like, fuck, 180 is really live. It's like, okay, I wore them up, and then I was like, let's push like 180, and I was like, fuck, 180's really easy.

And I mean, everything from my grip to how the weight moved, and I moved 300 pounds like it was nothing, and I was like, holy fuck, this is, it took me 20 years of my, or 15 plus years of my life of exercise and training through seated rows, lap pull downs, downbell rows, all the basic exercises that everyone does, but not doing deadlifting

to get my back to be as strong and looked the way I did, what I progressed it in those six months of put a heavy deadlifting, trumped, everything I had done 15 years before that. It was just like my mind would pull. It's crazy, and now the problem with that then is then you're like, oh shit, I did all this progress in such a short period of time,

and then you wanna get stuck in that modality. Which I did. And then you end up hurting yourself or whatever, which, and that's the thing, like, overuse injuries, I think a large percentage of these overuse injuries that we tend to get is because we're stuck in the same zone all the time. And that's when I, I know my joints,

I start to feel stuff in my joints when I stay in the same yeah, training phase for too long. That's when I start to feel it. I start to feel it in my connective I stay in the same training phase for too long. That's when I start to feel it. I start to feel it in my connective tissue and the muscle attachments. Oh, and my elbow, my shoulder joint. I totally feel that. Just creep up on me. Almost like it's predictable.

You can just feel it coming on and you know the signs, but you're still just stuck on that because you've been pressing through these PRs or whatever it is that's driving you forward. It's crazy. It's like however self-aware you think you are, we've been doing this for decades, right? However self-aware I think I am, I have a podcast, I talk about all the time, I still get stuck. I still get stuck in whatever I like doing.

And this is why I think it's important even to have a program, whether you follow someone else's program or even you write it out yourself, because I know myself, if I literally put it, if I put it down and I say three weeks in this phase and then it's over, here's my focal point. Yeah, if I don't do that shit, it's like three weeks turns into six weeks, three months later.

Yeah, I haven't done anything over five reps. Oh, and even too, like following through on your programming. Like that's why I enjoy right now tracking again is just holding myself accountable. If I'm sitting there riding the exercises down, I feel like I have to do it. Like, I needed, I know, I know, see, I have the smarts to know this is what my body needs.

Like, it needs this rep range, it needs this exercise. And then if I ride it down, like, even if I don't feel like doing it, where is it if I just go by feel, you know, when you have those moments sometimes, when you're like, I don't feel like doing snatch grip deadless today. So I'll just go over and do some seated rows because that sounds good. It's like you won't follow through on it. So there is something to be said about actually documenting and writing down

or like you're saying, like following a structured program. I always notice a significant difference in my results when I'm actually it's no different than tracking food and what we talk about with that. You know, of course the goal is to intuitively train and intuitively eat, but at the end of the day, even guys that consider themselves professionals and experts in this in the industry, I still catch myself doing these things

and having bad habits and following into these patterns that I enjoy or I like. It's funny because the nutrition side is easier for me than the training side. In the sense that I'm more likely to get stuck with training than I do with nutrition. It's pretty funny in that regard to be able to be aware enough to be like,

why the fuck do I get stuck in the same? But yeah, man, I'm feeling good for me. And of course, anytime I switch, I start to build muscle every single time. It's like, and then I fall in love with it. So I don't think I'll get stuck in the high reps. I'm pretty safe there. Pretty sure I'll switch out of it in a couple of weeks.

That won't be the problem. So anyway, dude, so my kids, they both play sports or whatever my son's doing volleyball. Had a nice conversation with him after his last game. So now he's in seventh grade, and his volleyball team has seventh and eighth graders. So now he's, you know, him and his friends or whatever, the younger guys, and there's the older guys.

And some of these eighth graders are fucking massive, by the way. And so I was asking my son, I'm like, who's under team? He's like, oh, you know, last same kids last year, but then there's some new kids. I'm like, well, what new kids? He's like, oh, they're eighth graders and he kind of made this face. So I'm like, what, you know, what's going on? What's up with these with these guys? And he goes, well, they're kind of, you know, they're kind of mean or whatever.

I'm like, what? So I think this is like the first experience. Luckily, my, my kids haven't had any big experiences with bullying. But this is kind of the first one. So I'm asking about this kid who's a little bit mean. And before we got into it, I said, you know, son, I said, I want to talk to you about this before we do. I said, you know, one thing I want you to understand is that when a kid is like that and they're, you know, picking on kids smaller than them, because that's usually what happens.

Rarely or rarely, if not ever, will you see a kid bully somebody who stands up for themselves or bully someone who's you know who's bigger than they are and they usually don't do that because they're typically it's not they're scared themselves. Yeah they're typically cowards and I said and and he goes what do you mean they're cowards it's so well they pro many times I said not always but many times it's a situation at home where they feel powerless they feel weak and so when they go to school and they see that small kid, they feel like they can, you know, overpower them.

Overpower them and it makes them feel better about themselves. And so he's like, well, that makes sense then. So he's telling me the story of how they were handing out shirts for the volleyball. And one of the kids on my son's team is this really, really small kid. Like, hasn't even touched puberty yet, which sometimes happens. You'll see this sometimes a boy's. I remember I, really small kid. Like, hasn't even touched puberty yet, which sometimes happens.

You'll see this sometimes, boys. I remember I had a friend in junior high, people called him P week, because he was so small. By the time he was a junior in high school, he was like 5, 10, or 5, 11. Like, he grew really quick. So there's this really small kid. And when they were handing the shirts out, I guess this eighth grader's like, oh, I guess you're going to be wearing a triple X small and sort of laughing whatever he's making these jokes.

And I said, did anybody, did he stand up for himself? And he says, well, he didn't say anything. I said, nobody really said anything, said, but I almost said something. So I told my son, I said, listen, I said, if you feel, if something inside, you feel like you need to say something, then go ahead and say it.

So unless you feel like you're in danger, stand up for yourself and stand up for other people. Otherwise, what'll happen is these people will be emboldened and they'll just continue doing what they're doing. And suddenly he says, oh, that makes sense because then the other day, we were playing basketball and the same kid with another kid walked onto the court. And it's like, all right, guys, off the court, it's our court now. And they're like, no, what are you talking about? We're here first, like whatever. And so they kind of got this argument. They stood their ground. Then they started sharing the court.

And every time the seventh grader's basketball went near the eighth grader guy, he'd take the ball and throw it like down the court or whatever. Oh, so, so fucking high school shit. Like a piece of, you know, and you know, and you know, it's funny, my internal feeling when I hear this.

I was just gonna ask you, does your primal dad think of him or your son? It brings you right back to the end. It's when you're a kid. It you right back to the end of your kid. Well, it combines two things that are my biggest like irritation or things that will set me off. One is anytime I see anybody treat anybody that way, like tyrannical or whatever,

it's a trigger. It fucking fires me up. And then it combines it with my dad instinct, which is even more like, like I'm like, in my mind,, which is even more like, like, like I'm like, in my mind, I'm fantasizing about like, you know, after school, finding this kid by himself and just scaring the fuck out

of him, you know what I mean? You know, just like, I'll kill you and I'll murder him. Try him in up in this like, black van. Don't tell anybody, you know. My stepdad did that. Did I share that story with you guys? Throw him in there the bag over. When I was in fourth grade, I was jumped by two

up older kids. We had fourth grade? Yeah, fourth grade. So it was, I was jumped by two older kids. We had a fourth grade. Yeah, fourth grade. So it was, we had a K through eight school. And these kids were two grades ahead of me. So they were six grade and I was fourth grade. And I mean, it wasn't like a major jumping, like a gang jumping.

Like they cornered me in the bathroom. They started slamming my head against the mirror and they tried to, they tried to stuff my head in the toilet and they were just, they were fucking with me. You know what I'm saying? And they're older. And so I was, Oh yeah, bro, I was, I was scared.

I was intimidated. Of course. And they were two, two of the biggest kids. One of the kids was rumored to be in a gang and stuff like that in school. So it was definitely a very intimidating situation for me to be under. And I remember coming home in fourth grade,

I remember crying to my dad and my mom like, oh, you know what, what had happened? But nothing happened to the school, like school didn't find out, so the kids didn't get in trouble. It was all happened in the bathroom, and I got away, you know, so it was all right. Fuck, my stepdad was so pissed, dude.

He rolled up the next day at school, and like, it picked me up, like, they never picked me up from school. I was walked or took the bus, and like, he was there. He's like, where are these kids at? I was like, oh, I don't know, down, I don't know this, and then, and he's like, who's getting mad at me, like, putting I was like, oh, I don't know, down, I don't know this,

and then he's like, who's getting mad at me? Like putting pressure on me, like, I wanna know where these kids are at. And I'm like, well, they're probably walking home from school already, dad, and they live over this way, gets in the car, errr, takes off, and it's sure, as shit, I see them, like, by themselves, the two of them, walking up this hill.

And my dad is like full throttle flying at these kids. And I'm thinking, like, at that that time in your head as a kid, you're just like you're half scared, you're half embarrassed, you're like, go dad, like all at the same time. And I'm thinking back now, I'm like, my dad rolled up on a couple of six crates. You're like, hell of a hard, you know what I'm saying?

Like, skids in front of the kids in the car. Rrrrr, you know, gets out, slams the door, walks over and gets in like, both their faces and like starts laying into them, tells them, look, obviously you can see that you're a little bit bigger than my son, but you can see how much bigger I am than you. You know, and he gives them this whole spiel that he's gonna break them in half.

They ever touch me again. But I remember thinking now as an adult, I look back like, there's probably a better way to handle that. You know? When that instinct kicks in, man. That instinct kicks in, it's like, you just wanna, like, you just wanna. It's hard to suppress it. Yeah. instinct kicks in, man, that instinct kicks in. It's like you just want to, like you just want to

hard to suppress it. Yeah. So anyway, what this kid did is he threw the basketball down the, down the core and my son's friend, another kid who's about the same size of my son. So they're both, you know, the smaller side, but not, not tiny, but still these guys are way bigger. And I saw this kid, by the way, it's eighth grade is my height.

So it's a big kid. So he threw the basketball, this other kid got in his face, this little guy, it's like what the hell is wrong with you? And then he pushed this fucking massive eighth grade or pushed this kid that's half a size down on the ground. So then the kid gets up and tries to do like a flying kick at him.

And the flying kick. Yeah, and they just, he's probably just angry, like he's no excuse, he's like, ah, you know. And then the yard duty or whatever sees it and you know, he gets in trouble or whatever the little guy got in trouble because she didn't see the whole thing. So I told my son I said, how do you think he handled that, you know, and she goes, and he goes, well, I mean, I think he handled it right. I said, I think you're right. I said, you know, again, if you feel like you're in danger, stand up for yourself when

something happens. Like, don't show them that you can be walked on. You're going to be scared. You're going to be intimidated. But stand up to them. And, you know, otherwise they're going to continue to do this. And you need to let them know that that's not okay. You know, it's interesting when I think about this kind of stuff because I go through the

same thing with my kids and like how to express, like how to communicate that to them and like what to do in those situations because all you get from teachers and society is to sort of like go get help or go, you know, turn to their cheek. I'm like no, like address it. Face to face, you know, man up with take the lump, whatever it is, you have to show that you're willing to face it.

And it's such an important thing. I just think back to all those, I had a lot of those moments myself where I was getting fucked with. And I think it was worse back then. I feel like it was at least. It was hardcore. And there was times where I felt like I didn't

stand up for myself. And I was so pissed when I didn't, you know, and like, I was thinking about that, like, did I ever even tell my parents? Never. No, I never did. Never told my parents any of the stuff that happened to me as a kid thinking about it.

And that freaked me out now because I thought, that thought crossed my mind and I'm like, oh my God, I bit my sons, like, hasn't told me anything yet, you know? And I started trying I'm like, oh my God, I bit my sons, like, hasn't told me anything yet. You know, I started trying to get like, conversation started, you know, with that kind of, that's what's so powerful. What Sal was talking about right now, the fact that you have these conversations.

Oh, dude, I was so like, I feel so blessed. That, cause that's great, you can talk to you about that. I didn't talk to my parents about any of that ever. And I got jumped several times in junior high by gang bangers or whatever. I got a knife pulled on me once and I didn't say anything to my parents at all. I never opened that communication

but didn't feel like I could, I guess. And I had good parents and everything but I just never felt like a good, so the fact that he even tells me, I feel really good because it shows that he values my opinion, he also trusts me, enough to tell me. I want that to, you know, to continue.

Well, think of how much of that lesson bleeds over into adult life, man. Like how many times are you gonna be in these awkward situations where people are bullying you, just in a different way. Bullying still happens all the way through adulthood. It's just that I did. Oh my God, let me tell you something.

The worst travesties of all of humanity didn't happen because of one person doing all these terrible things. It's because everybody else did nothing. That's all the shit happened. Hitler didn't do what he did on his own. It was because everybody else around, no, he took a stand.

Didn't do anything. And you know, you mentioned something, you briefly said turn the other cheek. It's funny I was watching this, you briefly said turn turn the other cheek. It's funny I was watching this, that same guy was talking about Bishop Aaron, he was talking about what that actually means. Whenever I heard that, I was always, it didn't really resonate with me because it felt like turn the other cheek, like you're being a, like a pacifist. Like a pacifist or you're running, like you should defend yourself. And he made an excellent point. And when that, when that saying came out during that time,

if you think about it, it was to turn the, let me think, it was to turn the right cheek, right? Turn to your right cheek or give him your right cheek. In those days, people didn't use their left hand because it was considered filthy, dirty. So what's actually happening is somebody's giving you a backhand with their hand on the left side of your face, which is how you treat like a slave

or someone you have contempt for, or someone who's just, you're like, you're just discussing me and slapping them on the face. And what that saying is, is to stand your ground, stand your ground and turn your face and be like, do that again. And in history, we have so many examples of people and people think like, how effective is that? It's the most effective thing we've ever seen in all of human history. If you look at the great

movements that were done by people who didn't have supposed power like Gandhi or like Martin Luther King, Jr. It was the, I'm not gonna run, I'm not gonna be a coward, I'm not gonna fight you back with violence, but I'm gonna stand here and I'm not gonna bend my character and that just reflects back to you what you are. And boy, does that cost you power? It shows you your own evil. It shows you your own evil.

And the power that comes from that, so it's like, that's what I'm trying to explain to my son, like, stand your ground and don't let people push you around. You will feel scared. You will be nervous. You will be intimidated. That's totally normal. Cause I also don't wanna make him think,

cause I know this was for me. Like, I felt like, if I'm scared, I'm not a man. I'm not manly. I shouldn't be scared. Well, of course you can be fucking scared. Everybody's scared. Yeah, man, you can be scared. You have three kids or three surrounding you.

That's shit's terrifying. Shit, it's terrifying as a adult. If I had three people around me, threatening me or whatever. So of course, you can be scared. You got three kids are surrounding you. That's shit's terrifying. Shit is terrifying as an adult. I had three people around me, you know, threatening me or whatever. So of course you're gonna feel that, but anyway, so you guys want to hear some interesting news? Yeah, what do you got? I got some so I don't know if you guys have seen this. This has been going viral. So there's this comedian in Scotland Who now his story as he was trying to irritate his girlfriend, whatever.

Nonetheless, he made these videos with a pug and he taught the pug to give the Nazi symbol. Every time he said, Hale Hitler, the pug would do it and he's a comedian and people would laugh and thought it was funny. And it's just this little pug. And so he would say these horrible things to the pug, like, you know, real fast, I guess the Jews, which is a terrible thing to say. And then the pug would react or wake up and he'd say, hey, I'll hit there or whatever. And then he would give them the Nazi salute.

Well, for whatever reason, they went viral. A lot of people thought it was, you know, look, and comedy is one of these things that, you know, I don't think comedy should ever be censored. I think some comedy is extremely dark, and that's exactly why many times it's funny, is because it's dark, and it catches you off guard. And comedians are, if you've ever been around comedians, streamly dark people. Yeah, if you've ever been around comedians, the jokes they make with each other are so inappropriate and terrible, but it's because they're comedians, it's their art, right?

So he makes these videos, they go viral, some people think it's funny, of course a lot of people are offended, that a pug is, you know, doing the Hitler sign or whatever. That's the joke. And this guy's not a Hitler, he's not a Nazi or anything like that, but that's what he says, right? But I did not know this, in the UK, you can get prosecuted for saying stuff like that. So although I personally think stupid joke, and probably not, you know, whatever, it's import taste, but you know who are you to, like, it's, it's comedy.

He could go to jail for it. Yeah, it's crazy. He could go to jail for it for speech. Well, isn't it, I mean, it's a unique concept, you know, like this freedom of speech, like isn't Canada doesn't really necessarily have that same, the same like, uh, no, yeah, lots of people do it. No, no, the US is by far the most, uh, I guess, free speech. Yeah, we, we, we value it as a principle, you know, and people can understand, you know,

and look, is it going to be hard to get people to agree that teaching a pug to do the Nazi salute is a bad thing or to say anything around Naziism or, or you know, all that that stuff, is it's not going to be hard to convince people that that that sucks. You know, nobody wants to hear that, right? Or is it going to be hard to convince anybody that the KKK shouldn't be able to, you know, do a, a, a, a, a march outside or whatever, a, you know, a, a sanctioned march or whatever. Right. Like nobody likes that, right? That's, that's not hard to convince people.

But people need to understand why, why free speech exists and why it needs to be like universal. The reason why free speech exists is, is, particularly to protect unpopular speech. Now, what's unpopular speech? Well, there's stuff that, you know, like saying racist stuff and stuff like that, like that's very unpopular and it should be unpopular and I get that. But there's also times in history

when speaking out against the government was unpopular or speaking out against the establishment was unpopular or a corporation is doing something that's terrible and you're the one to speak out, and that's unpopular, because they have a lot of money and they have a lot of lawyers and whatever. So we need to be very careful with

persecuting anybody for just saying words. However disgusting and horrible they are, we have to be super consistent and say, look, we can boycott this guy. What is the point of trying to censor that in the first place? Like, think about that. Like, what are we trying to accomplish by censoring that? Think about that.

Yeah, it's really just a blanket to people's feelings. It's an impossible task. Exactly. And this is why it's important. This is crazy that's just happening the day. So I'm reading this book where emotions come from, right? And super fascinating read. And day before yesterday, Katrina and I are walking

and we're walking in our neighborhood and we were just kind of quietly walking in and we weren't really talking very much and I was like, oh, that was strange. And she goes, what? And I said, well, I just caught myself profiling and in my own neighborhood. Like I saw in the corner of my eye, somebody? And I said, well, I just caught myself profiling. And in my own neighborhood, like I saw in the corner of my eye,

somebody parked, pulled up, we were kind of walking together with the boys and someone got out of it like a kind of a shady looking car. It was all beat up, never seen it before. And then guys across the street were kind of saying hi to them, they were all beanieed out, dark sunglasses on and stuff. And instantly what was firing through my brain

is like, you know, I have my girl next to me and my dog and stuff like that and I'm kind of like watching them in my corner and I'm thinking about what's happening in my brain, like I'm starting to like automatically become on the defense. Automatically I'm already judging these people in a, without judging them, I don't say anything. This is what's personally happening in my brain.

But the point is that we can't control this. No, your brain does that naturally. Right, it's, our brain is designed we can't control this. No, your brain does that naturally. Right. It's our brain is designed to be predictive. Everybody. And so if you have somebody, I don't care what race, creed, or color you come from, that let's say for example, it's somebody

who hates godly Christian people. But, and the reason why they do is because, you know, they've met 15 people and out of the 15 people, 14 of them have rubbed them the wrong way, whether it be too pushy on them or hypocritical, or whatever, that brain, I don't care who the fuck you are, okay, that brain is now patterned in a certain way of thinking

because it's been trained that way based off of there. And you can't just unplug that. All you can do is be aware of it. Yeah, exactly, or try to. Exactly, and I think that. All you can do is be aware of it. Yeah, exactly. Or try to. Exactly. And I think that we all should strive to be better. I think that's, but this idea of we're going to eliminate racist people or judgmental

people, like no, that's how our brain works. Our brain is designed to put together all of its past, the past things that it's happened to it. And then with that information and what it's seeing currently right now of its past, the past things that it's happened to it, and then with that information, and what it's seeing currently right now with its eyes, process what we think is going to happen. Well, here's how you get rid of it. The way you get rid of it is by letting it be out in the open. Right. And you have discussions. So here's what happens when you make stuff like this illegal. Okay, when you say, no, you can't say that, we're going to throw you in jail. First of all,

you strengthen it. You, you actually fucking strengthen it You make it stronger because now they have something to push back against you. This weird polar shift now They have a campsite world. Yes, it should be and then it becomes this weird argument that didn't even need to be an argument It's like oh, this is ridiculous. This is a ridiculous idea. Somebody joked about it end of story That's it. It becomes a thing and you know So that's one of them. You have something to push back against. You also cause a situation where I have to fucking defend the guy, which is stupid.

Like I have to defend his right to say some stupid shit. Like I don't like to say that. I don't want to have to defend the guy, but whatever, you know, you should be able to say whatever he wants, so long as he's not physically hurting anybody. But the other thing too is don't you want to know who feels that way in the world? You know what I'm saying? I'd rather allow them to express that so I know.

Do you think making it illegal to say something racist, erases racism? Or maybe it just fucking hides it and people act differently as a result? Why don't we just let it out in the open, let society react in voluntary ways like boycott, boycott the guys fucking YouTube channel, send him a bunch of angry emails, give him a bunch of thumbs down. Don't buy any of his products.

Don't buy any of his products. He'll fucking learn real quick that he made a bad decision. He'll be like whoops. But to throw him in a cage or jail or to steal his property by finding him or whatever, that's insane. And also, who are we giving the power to do that? That's the other thing you want to consider. Who is the authority that can dictate

what is proper speech and what is improper speech? It's the same authority that has the guns. And I mean, the legal guns or the legal ability to use the guns to kill, jail or legislate. Those are the exact people you don't want to give that power to. Definitely not. I don't want to give anybody who has the power to throw me in jail or has the power to really control me in forceful ways. I don't ever want to give them the power to dictate what I can or can't say or what I can or can't read or what I can or can't, how I can or can't express myself. Because who knows what's going to happen?

Right now you have a bunch of liberals who are really fucking scared that Donald Trump is a president. They're really scared. They're calling him. Hitler of the comment. And that's fine. I get that. You don't like him.

He scares you because his views are different than yours. I get that. But you wouldn't have to fear the guy if he didn't have this fucking stupid power that we've been giving presidents for the past, you know, six decades where he could actually do something. Like of course that's scary. Like don't you wish we were in a position where you can just look at the present and be like, wow that guy's an idiot but that's okay because he didn't have the power to really do much, you know, with that.

No, they have a lot of power now because we've been giving it to them because every time your friend or the guy you think is cool as an office, all of a sudden of much, you know, with that. No, they have a lot of power now because we've been giving it to them because every time your friend or the guy you think is cool as an office, all of a sudden, of course, you know, if you like the guy, you're gonna be like, yeah, you could, yeah, I trust you. Yeah, you go ahead and make some laws, telling people what they can and can't say, like, you know, yeah, definitely banned the word communism.

I don't like communism. Like I'm fucking anti-communism, right? Would everyone abandon it and make it in a legal political party in America? No. Because that same power could be used against me at some point, depending on who's in office. And I don't want to embolden someone by creating

that kind of outward force. I want open dialogue, discussion, and I want to let the sunshine, and air it out. Like let it expose it to the sun, let's have this discussion, and then I'll beat that, I'll beat that idea. It's funny, because I read another study where they were comparing people's viewpoints and stuff.

And what they found was, if a individual conservative a liberal understood the, okay, so what, let me back up, so they did a test, and they took a bunch of conservatives and a bunch of liberals, and they gave them this this test and so let's say you're a liberal You know your political views are liberal I give you this test and the test is you have to predict How a conservative would answer the following questions or what a conservative believes on these particular

Interesting study then they would do the same for conservatives and what they found was the more accurate the person was at predicting what the other side would do, the less likely they were to demonize the other side, and the more likely they were to engage in conversation. In other words, the more you allow yourself to have conversation, see the other side, and try to understand where the coming from, even though you may disagree, the less likely you are to view them as evil demon killer, horrible person. Now, why is that important?

Well, I'll tell you why that's important. Because when the person you disagree with, you view them as an evil literal Hitler, well, then it becomes justifiable to punch them, shoot them, kill them, throw them in jail. And that is a situation we never want to be in. You become what you hate. Well, and you don't know everybody's circumstances.

Like let's take my walking the dogs and like, what if, you know, or people don't, what you don't know was the last, you know, two months, there's been a series of all these car break-ins and mysterious cars that have been parking our neighborhood. I was jumped by two guys that looked just like those guys across the country. You don't know that.

And so I choose to, when they try to say hi to me, I ignore them and I rush into my house, but then I'm racist or I'm profiling or well, I guess my brain is doing that, but do you really blame me? Or is that really, am I really a bad person? Because that's something that my brain registers as danger. This is danger you've seen this before.

It would be almost dumber for me to ignore that and go like, oh wait, I'm not being fair. You know what I'm saying? So I think understanding that perspective is so important on all areas. And that applies to racism and political views and everything else that people have. They have, it makes us feel emotional

about all these ideas that we're so, we feel so strongly connected to is a series of events that we, that have happened in our life or just recently. Or just media or just perception. Yeah, that's all. That's not right. All you, your, your brain is processing all this information. And remember, we're, we're downloading like 80, 90% subconsciously that we don't even

recognize. And realize that one of the best things you can do, I talked about this yesterday, I was being interviewed by another podcast and this topic came up. One of the things you can do to help yourself have a more accurate perception of things because many times your perception,

well, all your perceptions always based on the available information that you're exposing yourself to. So if the available information I'm exposing myself to is creating a distorted perception, then my behavior is going to reflect that. And if you want to be free of that, what you need to do is look at more objective data and expose yourself more to that, so it becomes more accurate.

So an example, jaws. Remember the movie Jaws? Okay, so for the young listeners, Jaws was a movie about a shark that killed a bunch of people in the ocean. It was like this a movie about a shark that killed a bunch of people in the ocean. It was like this horror movie with a shark, okay? When Jaws came out, there was this huge nationwide like fear of shark attacks. And because of that, the newspapers started publishing

every time there was a shark attack. And so public perception was that, oh my God, shark attacks are on the rise to the point where some beaches actually would have fishermen. No swimming, no swimming down. Or they'd have fishermen go out to go kill sharks. Now if you look at the data from that period of time

and I believe jaws was like in the late 70s and the N.A.s right? Shark attacks are extremely consistent, like decade in, dick it out. Like they haven't spiked, they haven't gotten out, they haven't gotten out. It was the same, but the perception changed as a result. Here's another one.

If you take a bunch of random strangers right now and ask them, is it safer today for kids to go outside and do things on their own and play outside and go for walks and stuff like that by themselves? Today, is it safer or more dangerous than it was in the 1970s or the 1980s? The answer, most people will say, well no, it was safer back then. Like when I was a kid, I used to play outside and I used to have, you know, do whatever I wanted.

It was super safe. Everybody knew each other in the neighborhood. I'm sure we've all heard this before. Today, nobody knows each other. It's way more dangerous. I don't let my kids play or whatever. Statistically speaking, if you look at the objective data, that's false.

It's actually very false, it's far safer today for children. It's again, it's a perception thing because you know, Megan's law is there. Right. And now, dude, the fear and the panic of like, you know, having your kid walk home and strangers being out there, it's heightened. It's all internalized.

I'm guilty of that totally, because I used to walk home every day and for miles by myself running into hobos and fucking rattlesnakes. And I survived. That's fine. No, I mean, we get those social media, you know, people will share an article, you know, kid was kidnapped in Indiana and this happened.

So next thing you know, so because your brain is just, it's, it's perceiving based on its available information. So I, what I implore everybody to do is to go look up actual data so that now you have more information that hopefully will give you a more accurate perception on what's going on where you know like you see a police you know police brutality on TV next thing you know people are thinking oh my god cops are out right around beating people and does that happen yes is it rare it is it's actually quite rare in fact you know police to the encounters are down imagine I, my heart breaks for police officers.

My heart breaks for them because I think that, and I'm sure I'm gonna piss somebody off right now. I don't give a fuck. I just think about. Oh, it's still harder to be a cop right now. Oh man, I could not imagine your job is to be predictive, right? Your job is to like, in a sense profile.

You've got to like be ready for situations like that. That's part of your safety in doing that. They'll call it your instincts. Right. But then to put in place all these things that we have put in place recently, man, it's like how that would be just a mine fuck for me every day at work. Like, oh, I want to make sure I do this all the protocol. Right. Check yourself. Right. But my gut is telling me this is not a safe situation. I probably should do this. But if I do that, I'm going to be held to these standards and this could potentially happen if they end up not being guilty or this and it's like, oh, I wouldn't, oh, I would just want to pull my hair a little bit of hair I've left. Being a police officer

is going to be one of the toughest jobs. Imagine just being on guard, you know what I mean, or being in a situation. A situation status stress. And then what that, I know, I know how I react to my kids when I'm in a heightened state of stress I overreact on shit totally totally so that's got to be a very very difficult situation And you see the worst in humanity a lot of times. Oh Terran Paul seen the worst shit ever and so it just changes your perspective That's what I'm saying. How could you try and tell that right tell that brain who every day is driving into you know domestic violence and Drug wars and gang wars and you're seeing that every day every day every day every day is driving into domestic violence and drug wars and gang wars, and you're seeing that every day, every day, every day,

every day, every day, shot. And then you're being told to not think that way, to not allow your brain to start to think ahead five steps. Now you're home and everything's fine. Oh, dude, yeah, it's something I go through a lot with my wife because she's very, very conscious and aware of the worst possible thing that could happen to kids. You know?

Oh, because she's a nurse. Yeah, because she's a nurse that, you know, pediatric nurse, and so it's like, you know, we've seen, like, she's seen cases, case after case of like mistreatment of kids, kids falling out of windows, you know, this is like horrible, horrible shit. And so it's like, I have to like her out of that that that brain is she comes home

and like like a lot of times I don't do a good job all the time, but sometimes like like let's talk through it and like get it out, you know, so that way it's it's like, okay, you know, this isn't this isn't a normal thing. Mm-hmm. No, I mean, you would be surprised at how much you can change yourself by looking at objective data and having conversations with people that you disagree with. Of course, you have to find people willing to have a conversation with you, but you'd be surprised at how much better your perspective becomes, or how much more at peace it becomes.

Otherwise, you have this kind of angry, scared perspective that tends to develop in humans, because it's safe, right, to be either fight or flight, and we want to get stuck in that space. And it's not a good space to be in. You know what I mean? So there's a good, there's a website I recommend everybody go to it's called humanprogress.org. I hope that's the right one. Maybe Doug can see this the right one. Humanprogress.org highlights some of the incredible advancements that we've made in the 20th and 21st century real hard data showing how violence worldwide has gone down, how poverty has been reduced tremendously decades before the United Nations target of reducing poverty,

how people have access to different, it's pretty, it's a great website with objective data. Any time you're reading the news, you're on social media looking at the news, and you feel like there's no hope. Go to humanprogress.org and like, check that shit out and you start to feel, you start to feel a little bit better. And be like, okay, my perspective was a little bit good.

That's really cool. It was a little bit off. So anyway, is that of your shirt too? Yeah, do you think? How many shirts did you get, bro? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you keep in that a secret right now? Are they just sending you shit?

I got all the shorts. Yeah. There's benefits to talking to all the contacts. Have you worked out in their gear yet or just worn it? No, no, I've, so I've worked, what I love about it, and it's, I'm just gonna ask, how does it feel when you sweat and all that? It feels great, you know, it's there,

they're similar, you know, to a, and I'm sure they don't appreciate me comparing them to Lou Lemmon because I know they pride themselves on being better and stuff and they're a competitor. But it reminds me of that quality or better of material that I feel like one I could work out and sweat in it if I want, but then I also feel like I can go out and I could dress it up a little bit. So I mean, I love the brand, dude. I'm really stoked.

I actually just did a big order day before yesterday. I'm waiting on my stuff to come in from Viori. It's all have the full get up. So I've got a couple t-shirts now and a pair of pants and a pair of shorts, but I just ordered a bunch of gear. It's like the most high quality exercise clothes I've ever had. I've gotten compliments on that sweater you always wear.

Yeah, that zip up hoodie. I've gotten compliments out in the streets. Well, it's like fitted, you know, from, I don't know what it is, but like, is that why I'm getting complimented? Yeah, bro. Yeah. I just, I just feel like, you know,

sometimes the stitching and the way that it actually, like kind of molds to athletic type men is, like there's not a lot of companies that sort of organize They're closed to kind of fit in that direction. I think they've done a really good job Yeah, I agree. I know exactly what you're saying. It's like they especially for an athletic man They fit you better When you're athletic you have a little bit wider shoulder a little bit more muscle Smaller ways you know parachute type clothes like it with shirts or so you get like an Excel.

It's like, okay, cool. You got my chest and my arms, but now I have a fucking huge like wind sale for a stomach. Thanks a lot. You know, like, yeah, you fucked up. Yeah, I'm not buying your shit again. No, no, no, their cuts are dope, dude. They did and I've washed that hoodie a few times already

and it doesn't, I mean, it handles the wash. And sometimes you wash up the material so nice. Yeah, so good. So one more real quick piece of news. Break through study. Okay. Try to maintain your excitement. Yeah, just bustin' through.

You're both about to learn some crazy shit. It just blows, everybody's by, did it here right now. This was a Harvard Medical School study. some crazy shit. It's just blows, it should blow everybody's mind into here right now. This was a Harvard Medical School study. Just published March 2018, you ready for this? Here's the title, the headline. I don't know how, who would have guessed this? Weight training, weight training, helps maintain muscle mass

and overweight adults. Stop it. Wait, they stopped right there. They did it adults. Stop it. Wait, Teddy, they just stop right there. They do. They did it. How much do we, I was gonna say, who pays for these studies? I can't, chocolate tea.

I can't even bleed. Why would anybody, ah, yeah, why are they doing this? Hey, look, if you touch water, you'll get wet. New study. Professor obvious. No, doctor obvious. Yeah, dude. Did he do the study? It's so stupid, but you know what, you'll get wet. New study. Professor obvious. No, Dr. obvious. Dude.

He did this study. It's so stupid, but you know what though? You haven't paid on him, man. But you know what though? I'm not trying to, you know, obviously I'm making fun of him because they just published some obvious bullshit. But, and this is what this highlights a couple things. Highlights why the medical establishment is

and will always be until they completely change their approach behind when it comes to health, just are. You want to get the best health information, you've got to listen to like really smart podcasts, listen to us, listen to people on the cutting edge, functional medicine doctors who are reaching out and doing different things. That's where you're gonna get the real good cutting edge information.

The rest of medicine takes them like, it feels like it takes them like 10 years sometimes. Well, not only that, it's really hard for just a normal consumer because I was never somebody who would like, I'm not like you, where I like, I'll just go on PubMed and start reading. You're like open PubMed up and just read for the day. I just don't do that.

So a lot of times it's really tough to decipher how many of these studies are biased or not even really that valid I would I would argue that more than half the studies that we see surface are either You know promoted by a business that has a desired outcome going into the study or the study is almost Doesn't matter because it's like a small test group and it's like I could have control But yeah, so it's like and you have to have some's like, I could have died control. Bad controls. Yeah, so it's like, and you have to have some experience to sort of decipher between like what sounds like bullshit

and what doesn't like even to begin with. Like if you're a consumer, like you put a lot of trust out there into like, whatever media source you're, you're pulling from to kind of vet that for you. Well, sometimes it's important to like listen to anecdote. I know I know I'm just, you know, said a bad word, but sometimes like, like if they just,

if they just did a poll of, you know, we pulled the thousand trainers and a thousand trainers, unanimously agreed that weight training maintains muscle mass and overweight adults. Like, that's what would happen. You could have done that 10 years ago. You could have done that 20 years ago, and the trainers would have known that.

I'm saying, but here's the good news with it. The good news is when places like Harvard and Stanford and when it starts to go mainstream, what's gonna happen is what we talked about. And I think I might have been the one to specifically say that I think in the future, maybe 10 or 20 years from now, maybe 10 years, that the recommendation for fitness will no longer be 30 minutes of cardiovascular activity.

It will be resistance training. Oh, I think you're so right about that, that I think it's gonna happen before 10 years. I think that's around the corner, man. I think that's, because they're gonna, it's gonna be like cardio, some benefit, not even close to what resistance training can do,

especially for aging adults. So I think doctors are gonna tell people, hey, listen, I need you to exercise, but here's what you need to do. You need to lift weight. It's interesting, because I feel like the standard has been more focused on high performance athletes as being sort of the model of healthy pursuits, right? I feel like even in the study realm, we've always studied high performance athletes,

and so I feel like a lot of the ideas come from that objective, so we're trying to test their cardiovascular output and their threshold and this and that, whereas if we start really just looking into what benefits us long-term in our health and what that even looks like, it looks so different. Oh, no, that's such a great point, just because one of the things that drives me crazy

is that we all get into these debates over semantics, dude. Like, oh, should I eat it the 30 minute window after I get done with my workout? Or is it better to put this exercise before that exercise? And like we get into all these little finite details that don't even matter that much. Meanwhile, this person's been struggling psychologically,

they're not sleeping, they've got stress, they've got all these other big rocks in their bag that they're not even realizing. There's a way better place to focus, but that's not how we market the people. No, and so here's my other prediction. When resistance training becomes the advert, the thing that doctors recommend for exercise.

I foresee personal trainers and fitness trainers becoming a part of, could be good, could be bad, of the medical system to where, you know, they say you need to lift weights. However, resistance training, let's be honest, way more complicated than cardio. You can just tell someone to go for a walk, that's easy. Yeah.

Lifting weights is a lot of moving parts. That's that too, yeah. I foresee there being more partnerships where a forward thinking, you know, organization like Kaiser, which in many ways I think they've been pretty forward thinking, is we'll be able to hire trainers on or affiliate with them and say, okay,

go work with this person who can teach you at lift weights or maybe they'll have programs that they'll sell themselves. Who knows? That might already be happening actually, some of these. Well, it's interesting. Actually, one of my first, my first jobs as kind of a personal train, actually it was shadowing a personal trainer when I was in Chicago was this really forward thinking hospital that had on site, they had a gym and it was very much of a, like

a very high-end gym, but you know physical therapists, you had everybody in-house, all under one roof, treating people and running their programming. That's great. It was like, I saw that really early, so I know the thought is there, it's just not popular yet. Remember our boys with training site?

You know our boys, I don't know, I'm trying to connect everybody. Yeah, which is kind of the software. Yeah, same concept where your doctor, your PT and your personal trainer and Cairo and whatever are all kind of communicating together on one platform. I definitely think that's the future.

I think integrating everybody like that. And I think an Uber type of system would work amazing too, like that too. I mean, if you're a bad trainer, you're only gonna be a bad trainer after a couple of clients because real soon here you're gonna have two stars and nobody's gonna wanna do business and work with you and if you're an exceptional trainer and you get great ratings and rankings like that, you're gonna probably be able to charge more and have the interest.

Yeah, no, it's gonna be really good. And by the way, when I mentioned studies and stuff like that, if you ever wanna read them yourself, you can go to our show notes page. We actually put a lot of things in the show notes, some pretty cool links and stuff, sometimes giveaways, but definitely the studies that we mention and the show notes are on MindPumpMedia.com. Just go to the podcast tab and you can do this for all the episodes. There's a lot of great information in the show notes. Go check it out. This Quas brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give

your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code mind pump for 20% off at checkout First question is from VSO lifestyle. Do you guys think that young men are losing their sex drive? My roommates and I have all agreed that the guys we have seen over the last year or so have really low sex drives Maybe it's due to their age early 20ss, they're graduating from school, starting new jobs, et cetera. But it's been kind of frustrating from our perspective. As we all agree, sex is very important in a relationship,

especially at this age. This is a woman saying this, girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah. God, she's gonna get so many DMs. I can't help you with that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, you're looking for one of these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes, what have I got? You know, you're looking for more. Yeah, you're looking for more.

You know, you're coming to the disc. You're dropping the ball. Yeah, you know what? Here's a thing, her speculation may actually be accurate. Millennials are having less sex than previous generations. Okay. You've said that. That's a statistic that you can look up.

Testosterone levels have been declining now for decades, so it's not a new thing, but they have been declining. And, and, real statistics now, erectile dysfunction numbers are spiking in one age group of men. And it's in an age group that has never been associated with erectile dysfunction. And that's men in their 20s. That's never, that's, that was so rare for a man who's 20 you know three years old unheard of right but today and it's not a lot still not a lot but it's just a

spike from where it used to be where all of a sudden young men now are having erectile dysfunction. Here's what I think here's the reason why I think this is going on. Do I think it's a lower testosterone perhaps although individual variances can be quite dramatic so so someone can have higher testosterone. So that might play a role in it. I think personally, the proliferation and ease of accessibility to pornography is causing a lot of these problems. And I'm not saying that because I'm that antinder. Yeah, I'm not, we should go there too. I'm not being some pious moral authority about this either. Like pornography is great. I'm definitely a fan of it, I get it.

He's like, I'm a subscriber to porn. Go ahead and save, bro. I'm a gold member. Gold starb every now and then. I get the special deals. No, but here's the thing, you can see the actual studies, the actual studies that have been done on this. What happens, first and foremost, is men's brains in particular are wired for novelty.

Novelties one of many factors, but it's one factor that causes us to become aroused. Now, evolutionarily speaking, there's probably some benefit to this, right? You know, if you get aroused by a new person, you're more likely to impregnate more people or whatever, it's probably leftover animal instincts. That being said, men have never been exposed to tremendous novelty. If we just weren't, there's a limiting factor there, and that is society and women.

Women are a huge limiting factor, and historically speaking, across all major cultures, women were the controllers of that. It was the women that said, no, no, no, and it was the men that wanted more and more and we were kind of controlled. And we just didn't have tons of variety anyway. The only people that had tremendous amounts of variety and novelty were kings or celebrities, rock stars,

like super rare situations. novelty were kings or celebrities, rock stars, like super rare situations, like it's never common for a dude to just have, as many women as he wants, all different women whenever he wants. It's super, super rare, it just doesn't happen. But what we have now with pornography is this crazy accessibility to this extreme visual novelty, and men are also, it's like we went to 31 flavors and we just ate all the ice cream.

Dude, all the time. It's like having it all in front of you. Well, you made the point just about tender. And I would agree with that too. I think, and I remember, I think I brought this up to you guys. This might have been an off-air conversation that a good buddy of mine was talking about because he's still in the single dating life and he uses tender and all these other apps. And he goes, you know, there's less motivation to do it.

It's so easy. It's so easy to find another person of the opposite sex to have sex with every night that you potentially want to, that it's less appealing. So going back to Sal's novelty theory, I 100% think that, and then you add in Instagram. I mean, even though it's not porin hub, you the amount, if you, if you're following a ton of these bikini models and hot chicks that are doing ash shots all day long, like you're just getting flooded with all of this information

that your brain is downloading all day long and you're getting stimulated through that, you're getting stimulated through porin hub. You also know that anytime I absolutely needed, I can get on tender and go hook up with somebody. And so I think that's naturally driving the hunt down for the value. So what's happened with sex is, and this has happened over decades, by the way, this is in a new problem. It's just, it's culminating and it's getting worse, is that sex has lost a lot of its, of its original value, I should say. Sex now more than ever,

and this started sometime in probably the, during the sexual revolution of the 60s, sex is now becoming more about physical pleasure and novelty and fun, and less about connection and, you know, procreating and all the other things that have always been connected to that family. Right.

It's always been connected to sex. But now it's all of a sudden this novelty thing that we do all the time. And that's just, and that's pornography is a part of that. Now, pornography itself isn't evil or bad, but if you're, what, in this, by the way, they've done studies on this, what happens to the brain, the male brain, when he's constantly exposing himself to different forms of visual stimulation is you desensitize your brain or desensitize your body to visual stimulation. Now, anybody who's ever looked at a lot of porn can tell you, if you look at a lot of

porn, the porn that you watch starts to get more and more fetishized and more and more extreme as you continue to look at it because the original porn you looked at no longer stimulated your brain. Look, I know this as a man, when I was, had no access to pornography, if I just saw a boob. Not even a side boob, right?

Yes. It was like, whoa. Side boob sundae. Then when you're exposed to that shit all the time, that doesn't do it for me Yes. You know, it was like, whoa, side boob Sunday. Then when you're exposed to that shit all the time, that doesn't do it for me. It was. It was a hashtag for a minute. Yeah. Was it really? What was the thing? Side boob Sunday? No, I mean, you've been following it. Yeah, I've been following it. I was like, ooh. So, and what happens is the brains become to sensitize. So now, when

they're with a normal human girl, It's like it doesn't work. Can't get it up. In fact, in fact, this is actually an alarming trend. I've actually read quite a bit into this because I have a boy, I have a son. And he's entering into the age where his testosterone levels are starting to kick up. He's going to start really noticing the opposite sex and all that stuff. And he has access to technology and all stuff So I've done a lot of research in this and there's a lot of young men who are saying they prefer

pornography to having sex with a girl because it's easier and it's not oh Bro, and it's comfortable because it's with yourself. You know get rejected. Yeah, you don't feel shy She's not gonna think you have a little dick. There's all kinds of pros for a young teenage boy who's growing up Like that's a very insecure time for you as a man like am I am I normal? Am I not like that's all the things that are going through your head Oh, this is much safer. I don't need to go out and meet girls I'll just watch them on this screen and that gets me excited enough to and then we all know what happened As soon as you ejaculate then it's no more big. It's no big deal anymore. You're over it, right? Yeah, no

I mean, I think it's a combination of all these things. I think that's what we're saying. If you want to raise your sex drive and you're a man, you have the physical stuff you can do, right? Lift heavy weights, that helps build the testosterone, eat a good diet, adequate fats. That's something you didn't talk about right there too. I mean, you've talked about this before, is how about just guys are more feminine, metro sexual now too. It's a, Metro-sexual now too.

It's a, and not lifting weights as much. And there are more, you have this more flat. Activities definitely drop. Yeah, definitely drop. Just all together, all those things matter, right? And activity does raise testosterone levels. So, you know, lift heavy weights, get good sleep, eat adequate fat.

So those are all the physical things you could do, but here's the emotional stuff that you could do that will increase your sex drive. Don't watch porn. Now I'm not saying this because it makes you a moral, better person. I'm saying this because when you don't watch porn, give yourself a month of doing that and then watch what happens when you notice a girl walk down the street or when you go hang out with your girlfriend or whatever. All of a sudden it becomes very stimulating because just like when you avoid sugar, it's no different. If you eat, all you ever eat is processed sugar

all the time, it starts to lose its flavor, it starts to lose its taste, and then you go eat an apple and it tastes super bland. If you avoid sugar for a long time, watch what happens to the taste of actual fruit. It becomes sweeter, your receptor's open. Same with ass. It's the same exact thing.

So avoid pornography and aim for a deeper connection than something that's just fleeting. And then watch what happens to your sex drive when you talk to a girl and you say to yourself, I'm gonna get to know her a little bit instead of just try to have sex with her. And look, if you just wanna have sex too, there's nothing wrong with that.

But what I'm saying is, try to have a different connection. Don't look at pornography. and watch your primal instinct start to kick in, and it feels good. It feels good to be that way. It feels good to not be that way, where you're not stimulated by a human, that's right next to you, a flesh and blood person. Next question is from Ari Perkins.

Could you explain what it means to fatigue the central nervous system? Are some exercises more likely to fatigue the CNS than others? This is kind of a cool question because I feel like it's similar to the posts that are good buddy Dr. Andy Galpin put up, not that long ago about how this talk about the central nervous system affecting our workouts and kind of making it sound like it was overrated. And I commented below, and I haven't heard back from Mandy, I get sent them a message and they were bringing this question up because I would love, because I think he's a brilliant

guy, I think he articulates himself really well, I don't think he's dogmatic at all, so I think this would be an incredible discussion, but I disagree with him. He's doing well, he's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well.

He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. He's doing well, he's doing well. and not think that all the other 10 systems aren't affecting that one. I think, and I think if I had him sitting right in front of me, I would say that to him and he would agree. I think I would say, I know you're trying to take this out and separate it and say that, hey, just training super, super hard,

doesn't necessarily affect our CNS to where you can't come back and do another hard workout again. And I would argue to say that, okay, well, frying yourself or pushing yourself that hard definitely has carry over into the other systems, and now they're lagging because of that, and then that actually indirectly can affect the workout the next day. So, I would love to have a healthy debate and discussion with him over this, but without him, I think you would agree, Sal, right?

Yeah, well, so central nervous system, you know, you have, central nervous systems like your brain, your spinal cord, and then you have the peripheral, which is the things that activate your muscles with the muscles themselves. And they can all fatigue differently, right? You can one or the other. Now, here's a difference, or here's my point, it really doesn't matter. If I go to the gym and I'm tired, or I feel burnt out,

and my central nervous system, if you were to test it in a lab and say, no, your central nervous system's not fatigued, it seems to be firing just fine. Does it matter? Does it really matter? I don't think it makes a difference. So when we say things like, don't hammer your central nervous system or your CNS is getting fatigued or whatever, we're referring to something specific, but really more generally, and what the takeaway really is, is that how you feel makes a big fucking difference. And sometimes muscle soreness isn't necessarily telling you the whole story. Like, I worked out my muscle soar,

now they feel recovered, they're not soar anymore. Does that mean I'm fully recovered? No, you could still be fatigue, you could still be in a state where it's not optimal that you push yourself super hard. I think your own subjective opinion of how you feel still trumps all these other things.

I think that Galpin would challenge you and say that it does matter. I think it does matter. It does separate the systems. It would be good for you to actually challenge the body because we're either adapting or optimizing, right? That's what you would say. He would say that it's good to put your body in these states where it's not optimal that you are kind of stressed out a little bit that your body is fatigued a little bit and then you get into this workout and you know to push through that is going to force the

body to adapt and you're going to see these benefits from it. So I think there's this fine line of where we agree and disagree on a topic like this, because there are some benefits potentially to those, some of those days where you may not feel like it, you may feel kind of fried and then pushing through that and then other times. I think where you have to really. A lot of great lines with it, right? Right.

So, I think that's where his post might have come from, more like people that are divisively like, you know, well, if I did this, if I did might have come from, more like people that are divisively like, well, if I did this, if I did just legs and I fried them and then that, and I'm correlating that to my entire central nervous system, then I can't train hard my upper body. Or, you know, like there's like sort of like, somebody that's dividing a line between like,

what muscle groups that I worked, you know, and then going into that, is that I carry over into other muscle groups that I worked, you know, and then going into that, is there carry over into other muscle groups? And, you know, like, so what you guys are saying, like, makes a lot of sense as far as, like, you know, the overall, like, how you feel does play a huge factor into the workout, but is that in, is the intent of the workout for me to overcome, you know, those feelings, or is it a work with my body at that point. So here, let me give you an example of what I'm trying to talk about. So a long time ago, maybe over, I want to say about 10 years ago, I first heard the term adrenal fatigue, you know, being

uttered by, you know, functional medicine practitioners or wellness people. And they would say things like, oh, you have adrenal fatigue, and here's the symptoms, someone would, they would rattle off all the symptoms that they had, they were tired, cold, climbing hands, they needed lots of caffeine to stay awake, they didn't recover well from exercises.

I mean, I could go down the list of all, common food, lots of food intolerances, whatever. So I could go down the list of things that were adrenal fatigue. Now what happened is scientists and doctors laughed and said, you're an idiot because the adrenals don't get fatigued. Here's the studies that show the adrenals are producing the same levels of hormones as they were before.

And okay, great, that's nice. We use the wrong name. It still doesn't explain why there's this combination of symptoms that is seen consistently in a certain number of people, and that the treatments that we're giving them is fucking working and helping them out. So that doesn't explain that, and so we got the name wrong. I get it. That was just them speculating, okay, the adrenals get fatigued.

A more accurate term for that would be HPA axis dysfunction, hypothalamus, pituitary, anadrenal axis dysfunction where they communicate with each other and hormones maybe off of the way the body responds to them. It's much more complex and that's a better name for it. The same thing for leaky gut syndrome, people laughed at it. Well, the gut's not leaky, what are you talking about?

Now they renamed it intestinal hyperpermeability. Now they say, okay, that's fine. So central nervous system fatigue. Is the CNS itself getting fatigue? Well, studies. Well, studies will show that the CNS recovers very quickly and doesn't have that kind of fatigue fine.

But that's still doesn't, that's not really the point. The point is when I train clients and they come to me and their muscles aren't sore anymore, but I can tell that there's some fatigue going on or they're not feeling great, I'm gonna adjust the intensity of the workout and change it and their body's gonna respond even better. Versus, oh, your central nervous system's fine.

CNS fatigue is a myth largely. Let's fucking hammer you anyway, type of deal. So when we communicate that to people, that's kind of what we're trying to say. Well, and it depends on who we're communicating to too. So I'm communicating this topic different to whoever's sitting in front of me. If I have, you know, the super overweight guy

who never works out, never pushes himself, never moves, like getting that guy to get out of his comfort zone and push him and stretch him and get him to adapt and change is something important. Now if I'm sitting here talking to a competitor or somebody who considers himself a serious athlete or somebody who works out a lot, my concern is the opposite. My concern is like this person is probably forcing their body to adapt all the time. They're not ever spending time optimizing and there's some benefits to you actually focusing

a little bit on optimizing and letting yourself recover a little bit and not Consul being in this stress state all the time, so right right? I mean, there's other things that may be happening that are causing what we have Experienced and seen when we've trained people and why this information is actually the way we communicate it is accurate in its application And by the way, we're not the ones to invent it the when the iron curtain came up in the Soviet Union dissolved, we got all these incredible, they invested so much money in studying their weightlifting athletes that we see now that the way they trained really was less about hammering

the muscles and more about training the, whatever you want to call it, but we call it the central nervous system, how effective it was. So the applications are still appropriate, but it may be something else. It may be neurochemical, maybe neurotransmitters that are changing, up regulating, down-regulating, that can have effect on how you feel.

Nonetheless, training your body to fire more efficiently and effectively is definitely somehow a function or connected to the function of the central nervous system in some way, not quite sure what it is, maybe not the CNS itself as a mechanism, but it may be other things that are connected to it or communicate to it that are causing the problem. Nonetheless, the advice is the same. Train your body if you don't pay attention to how you feel subjectively outside of just your muscle, soreness, and damage like stuff like that, you're going to be for a lot of pitfalls with your training. Rood awakening at some point.

That's right. Next question is from Greg Kelland PT. You guys talk a lot about priming and mobility warmups. What is your idea of a quality cool down for resistance training? I like to do for me personally. I like to do at the end of my workout is similar to what I do at the beginning of the workout with one main difference. The end of the workout is typically where I will incorporate static stretching and or foam rolling.

So it's at the end of the workout. Now the reason why I do it at the end of the workout is because static stretching at the beginning of the workout can cause weakness in the muscles. It can cause the CNS to tell the muscle to be a little weaker, can maybe improve, actually increase risk of injury, at least to think it decreased it, but actually increases it. And it can give me more range of motion

without strength within that range of motion. But at the end of my workout, when my muscles are warmed up, they've been worked out, everything's fired the way it should. I like to do my, what's that certification class that was here recently? FRC. FRC stuff. I like to do my mobility work.

I like to get into deep stretches, and then relax in those stretches, so it's more of a static stretch. And then after I relax for a second, activate those muscles, my goal at the end of my workout is to increase range of motion in the areas that really need... Isn't that increasing in the muscles? It's changing, I was going to interject, but like how foam rolling just as the example, like where I used to do that before, every time. Like, that was like, you know, the go go to, to really open me up and get me ready and kind of prime me into the workout where, you know, we've sort of honed in

on a more effective way to do that through mobility and through these different practices, but very similar to what you're describing, but I do focus a lot more on the tension elements after my workout. It's like you're solidifying this signal. Right. So whatever it was that I know,

I can, I wanna be able to improve that one component of my mechanics, or whether that's within my squad, deadlift, you know, over a press, you know, whatever very specific gross motor movement I'm focused on that I know that like you're doing certain poses, you know, where I'm fully retracted, I'm squeezing, I'm tensing my muscles up to form into place and recognize that.

So yeah, I holding it, you know, for a longer amount of time than I would in the beginning of my workout is really the focus of that. Yeah, you want to think of the beginning of your workout. Priming is you're trying to set the stage for the right signals to be set, or at least the signals that you want, or the direction of the signals that you want to be sent. That's what priming is all about. At the end of the workout, the goal is to solidify what you just did. So it's similar, but it's still different.

And it's those static stretches at the end that I tend to enjoy. The other thing I like to do at the end of workout that it's now stapled for me is I take a cold shower, always. Always do that at the end of my workout. Now I know that's not necessarily good for maybe the sending the muscle building signal, maybe blending a little bit, but I tend to push myself a little beyond anyway. And so I appreciate the reduction in inflammation that I get from it, but I also appreciate the, it's like a cup of coffee. I don't know how else to say it. Like take a cold shower and watch how energized you are

for the next hour or two. It just works so well because I work on the morning before I come here, cold showers, like a hundred percent apart of my workout. I tend to, this varies a lot for me. It really varies off of what I'm currently focusing on now. I've had most of my success with picking one or two areas that I really want to drill home and improve on my mechanics

and not overwhelming myself with all the shit that I need to do because there's a ton. There's a ton of shit that I need to do, because there's a ton. There's a ton of areas that I need improvement on always. And I feel like if I try and do this full cool down routine that is like fortifying my body's position for all these different movements or where I need to be to be a neutral spine. Like I feel like I don't address it enough

to see this change. And so what I've done is I'll take a couple movements that I really want to solidify and I'll prime before with these types of movements and then I'll do something else, maybe along the lines, like what Justin's saying as far as more of an isolation exercise. So I'll give you an example of my current focus

so people can understand how I'm applying this theory. So right now I just mentioned on the show a couple of shows ago that I can feel myself rounding forward now because I haven't been training for a while so I have this forward head and this forward shoulders and so I have the clubs, so I'm working on shoulder mobility, I'm doing all my wall stuff. And then at the end of my workout after I've worked out pretty hard and I've got my little sweat going on, I want to cool down. I actually like to just lay on the floor and the floor I'm using as feedback.

So I know what the position my hips, my shoulders and my head need to be in to be in this like nice, neutral spinal alignment, right? And I know where I'm excessively arching in my low back, I can feel where my head wants to be forward. And laying on the ground, I get this nice little feedback of all these points. And I'll just kind of lay there and I'll start to rotate my hips,

I'll press my low back flat, I'll tuck my chin and you make sure that my head is nice and level. My ears are neutral with my shoulders. And I'll just kind of get these holds. And it's a little core workout for me. I can feel my core working just to keep all those points of contact and I'll do a hold for like 15 to 30 seconds and then I'll release, breathe a little bit, go back.

It's a really nice way for me to cool down right now and it's just really addressing this, you know, upper cross syndrome that I have going on right now. And so I'm just really trying to drill that home. Now, using that as an example, that was completely different just last year. Last year, a lot of my energy and focus was around my hip and my ankle mobility. And so what I would do after a workout is,

I'd sit in these deep squats, this baby position, and I would kind of just get comfortable down in there, and then I would create tension by letting my knees roll forward over my toes, and then trying to lift my toe like a combat stretch, but in kind of this deep squat position. And so I would just really, and all I'm really trying to do is pick an area or one or two things that I really want to feel

and improve it. Now why I choose this way of doing things is that, I feel like if that's all I'm thinking about, then when I'm at home I'm doing it and then when before my workout, after my workout, it really allows me to measure the change of it by applying something towards it. Then I can go back and say, whoa,

when I really am in good posture, and I really focus on my upper cross, and it really makes a difference in all of my workout, in my low back pain, or how I feel throughout the day, this is a staple. This is something I can't let go of in my routine, and then it stays solidified forever, and then I kind of move on to the next piece.

Right. Yeah, I mean, think about it this way, working out in general, not always, but working out in general is typically this sympathetic state, right? It's this elevated state of energy. Like when I'm lifting weights, that's, you know, it's, I'm releasing cortisol. I'm high energy.

The music's a little louder. I'm pushing myself. So it's a really hard workout. When you're done, that's when the recovery starts. That's when the adaptation starts. So what you do at the end should help facilitate that. And that's why I think one of the reasons why I like the static stretching or maybe why I like to sit in that squad or whatever,

is at the end of the workout, and that's why they call it, I mean, look at the name, cool down, warm up, cool down. It's like you're trying to get your self and more of a sympathetic state in the beginning. And at the end, you're trying to go parasympathetic. And so I like to do the deep stretches, relax a little bit, get my body to kind of chill out a little bit. And so that might be your best approach is after your workout, give yourself five to 10 minutes to, you know, you finished your intense workout, you had a great workout. Now I'm trying to get everything to kind of calm down, a little bit.

Eating is part of that. I can see why there's, people, a lot of people like to eat right after the workout because that also induces that parasympathetic state, that rest and digest, although that may not be great for everybody, if you're healthy, it's fine. But yeah, it's that, for me at least,

the way I visualize it, I'm trying to induce this more parasympathetic state, getting me to relax a little bit and start that kind of regenerative process. Next up is Michael Salsal. Thoughts on how a sedentary lifestyle is now the new smoking. Yeah, yep, yep.

Because smoking is dropped in popularity over the last couple of decades. A lot of people used to smoke. A lot of people didn't realize this. Oh, dude, when I was in Chicago and I was working as a waiter and a bartender, there was still sections just for smoking. And the smoke would come, like, it would just billow out and fill the entire restaurant. And I just couldn't believe it, you know, because from California, they were like one of the first to kind of institute a lot of these laws where you couldn't smoke anymore.

It became socially unacceptable here too. Right. And so I had a hard time with that, man. It was just like, I would get pissed, you know, going to work because you smell like it and like you're breathing this air that was just toxic and it would fuck me up. Now that being said, I don't know if the sedentary lifestyle

will ever get to that point where it's socially unacceptable. I think it's really interesting to speculate on that. That's a good point. Like I don't know if it'll ever get to a point where... Well smoking had the whole like, you gotta smell someone else smoking thing going forth that made it so bad. Right, right.

Like when you're... Yeah exactly. Occupied your space. Exactly. So that's why I don't know if it's, I don't know if it's fair. And I know like we like to compare everything to smoking, right? The new scrolling on Instagram is the new smoking. And like we like to try and compare everything to that

because we've demonized it so much. So, but in that aspect, I don't know if we're going to, you know, I don't think you're going to walk into like a restaurant and you see this like really overweight person like sucking down a milkshake and be like, I can't believe you're doing that in here. You know, shame, yeah, shaming them or something like that. I don't know if I see that, but no, I feel like we're moving the opposite direction. I accept people. Right, I do think that it's a fair analogy or comparison when you think about like how detrimental it could potentially be. If you're right, in fact, I would argue that

the sedentary lifestyle could be worse than smoking, that being so sedentary and the way we're going right now with how little we move around, that that I think you could actually be somebody who's healthy, exercising, moving, dieting correctly and smoking your whole life. And you may actually be somebody who's healthy, exercising, moving, dieting correctly, and smoking your whole life, and you may arguably be in a better position than the person who doesn't smoke their entire life, but chooses to not move more than four, five thousand steps a day,

doesn't exercise and eats whatever the fuck they want. I would argue that that person is in more danger than the person who's smoking every single day. Well, yeah, and think about accountability amongst your peers. Like, you know, there's no, there's no like talking to people. Like, hey, man, I think, I don't know if you should have that ice cream. You know what I mean? Like, that's a conversation doesn't really come up anymore.

Like, you know, somebody's smoking, it's like, hey, man, like we got a talk, right? Yeah. What the hell are you doing? You know, like nobody's there like judging, hey man, we got a talk. Right? What the hell are you doing? Nobody's there judging people at the state of their progressing their tendency towards obesity. It's a weird, it's a cultural thing. It's becoming, we're making clothes specifically to fit into this new model, this new size that

we're all becoming. So I just looked up some statistics while you guys were talking there. And first off, in 1965, over 40% of American adults smoked. That's how big it was back then. Today it's closer to like 16%. So huge reduction in smoking. But of course, during the same period of time,

a huge increase in beating sanitary. in countries like in European countries where people move more or more active and have healthier diets but smoke more, like you go to Italy for example, way more people smoke there. Yeah. And yet they have lower rates of heart disease and stuff than the US. US has one of the, you know, has some of the worst health records in the world and we also smoke the least. So there's a lot of factors there,

you're dying and how much you move. I think Adam, you make a pretty good point, it could be much worse. So I looked up some statistics and if you sit for more than six hours a day, it is as bad as smoking a pack of cigarettes every day. Statistics are thinking, what?

What? Yeah, that is a crazy business. And let's be honest, who the fuck doesn't sit six hours a day? Yeah, our jobs, I mean, that's exactly what we wanted to do. Damn, where did you get that, right? Yeah, that's the infographic that I just found, and it was based on a 14 year study

of 123,000 US men and women women and they found that the risk of, you know, lung cancer, the risk of, you know, all cause mortality or death in crucial. Yeah. Well, that's, that's, sit on that for a second. That's fucking mind. No, I'm telling you a big deal. Yeah, right.

That is fucking mind blowing right there. And I'll tell you right now that do you guys know anybody who doesn't sit for six hours a day? It's very rare to meet somebody who has a job where they're not sedentary. And even if you're not sedentary your job, like I was a trainer, right? So I'm not very sedentary there.

I still sit for probably six hours a day between driving for an hour both ways, somewhere, sitting on my couch watching TV. That's fucking insane. Yeah, that's what the statistics say. If you sit more than four hours a day, even if that shit is ballooned and not all the way accurate, just that it's even close is crazy. No, no, listen to this one.

If you sit more than four hours a day, you increase your risk of death by any cause by 50%. 50. Yeah, that's a big number, 50. That's a big number man. That's a really big number. I mean, here's a deal like, God, our bodies are evolved to move. You know what I mean? We're not moving at all.

It's radically different from what we evolved in. It's crazy that our bodies evolved to move and yet technology is evolving to force the office. Well, we also evolved to seek out efficient movement and efficiency because for most of human civilization, if you were efficient with your energy, you could serve more of it and you have more of it when you needed it to hunt or whatever. So it was smart. It was smart to sit when you could or to figure out smart ways of doing less work to get more, right?

Like if I'm a caveman or whatever, and there's a creek, I mean, I could go out there and try and catch fish by hand or I could figure out a new way to catch as many fish as possible while I was sitting over there trying to do some other stuff. So I set up a net or whatever.

So it, I mean, it makes sense. But we're now in a point where we make everything so easy and we're so driven to be lazy that we do nothing physical, literally nothing. Like the modern lifestyle today, unless you go to the gym or unless you have a very physical job, which is becoming more and more rare, let's be honest, less and less jobs are actually physically demanding, most of them are not. What is your activity?

Think about that. If you're the average American, you have a desk job like most Americans do nowadays and you don't go to the gym for years, your activity literally looks like wake up, walk downstairs, eat breakfast, sit down, watch the little TV, walk to my car, get in my car, so I'm sitting, drive, I don't know, an hour to work because there's traffic. Get out of my car, sit down at my desk

until it's lunchtime, stand up, walk somewhere, eat, or maybe eat at my desk, come back to my desk, sit down, work, out time to go home, get up, walk to my car, drive home, or drive to pick up the kids or whatever, drive home, eat dinner, sit down, watch TV, go to bed. That is the average daily person's level of activity, which is so drastically different from how our bodies evolved.

So drastically different. And a lot of, I remember clients feeling this way too. This is why I was, God, I loved when tools like Fitbit and Body Bug and all those started to come out because it really gave me a tool to then help my clients open their eyes that, no, you're not as active as you think you are. Because we, the way our brains work is we process like, you know, being busy as being active. You know what I'm saying?

Because I'm mentally busy and because I'm going here, I'm going there, I'm talking to someone on the phone, I'm doing this, I'm doing that, picking the kids up from soccer practice, dropping them off over here, heading over to work here, got a meeting there, doing all this. It's like, oh no, I move, bro, I move.

You know, but then when you start to measure it and you go, and I'm looking down right now at my Fitbit, you know, and here we are halfway through the day already, and I'm at 2,000 steps. That's nothing. And I'm going to plan to work out in about an hour or so when you're off here. I'll only in my workout, I'll get like another 2,000 steps or so in a full one hour workout. So I could ease and then go from there, I could easily go home, and my pattern would be after a great workout, go home, if it's a relaxed, not move day for me, I could wait till Katrina gets home,

maybe walk the dogs, that's another probably 800 or 1000, so easily a workout day, a day that I worked out, a day that I walked my dogs, could still be in this four to six thousand range of steps, which is still considered a sedentary lifestyle. I know. It's crazy. I know.

That's crazy. We have to design, you know we have to do, because you can fix a lot of it, or at least get some benefit out of scheduled exercise like you're talking about, but it doesn't solve the whole problem. So here's another statistic. It's based on that same study, that 14 year study, even for the most frequent

exercises, there was still a significant increase in chance of early death that was correlated with just sitting for six or more hours a day. So even people who worked out all the time, and I think it's highlighting what you're saying. Like, if you go to the gym for an hour, that's still one hour out of your entire day. What we need to do is we need to literally organize our homes and stuff around not sitting. You know what I'm saying? It needs to not just be scheduled exercise,

but rather I have a stand up desk when I'm working. I wanna think about how ineffective it is to go hammer your body so all you wanna do is lay down after the work point. That's such a great point. That's such a pervasive mentality even fitness people have. Oh, well, I just I destroyed myself in what like 30 to a minute or 30 minutes to an hour. Yeah, they've done studies on that too. Someone will work out really, really hard. They make up for it by being less active, doing other things. This is a body's tired of whatever your body's telling me to sit down.

So, yeah, I don't know, man, it's crazy. It's an interesting problem that we're encountering. And it's all, I don't think people realize just how bad this could turn for us. You know, the medical costs of the results of our inactivity and poor diet, I mean, if it doesn't stop growing at the rate it's going, it will probably bankrupt us. There won't be a way to pay for it all.

You know how expensive is it to take care of someone towards the end of their life? It's incredible, it's ridiculous. And then diseases that are chronic, that are definitely connected to being inactive and having a poor diet, are exploding. So it's gonna be an interesting problem. I wonder, I don't know how are we gonna end it?

I definitely believe we're heading that way. I just hope it's like many other things that I've seen in my short 36 years on this earth is that we tend to push these boundaries with things like that until it's like the state of emergency. Like you talk about like, you know, what pollution was, 15, 20 years ago. We do stuff that is not good, dangerous for our bodies

until it's like, oh shit, at an alarming rate, or where it's like, oh my God, we had the pump of breaks where we're fucked. And so I do wanna believe in humanity that we'll figure it out. I just hope that we don't get to a point where it's so bad that a lot, a lot of people are going to suffer. Unfortunately, I think it's more like Chris Cresser's kind of point of like where we're going to be in a,

you know, we're going to be bankrupt because of all the, you know, the healthcare crisis. Like everybody's going to be like going to the hospital because of like all these conditions and it's like, okay, now we got to tackle this. Yeah, we're forced to. But to your point earlier, Justin, about this acceptance of being unhealthy, beating sedative, obesity and that kind of stuff, I definitely don't think it's appropriate or proper to ridicule someone or make them feel like shit or whatever.

Right, and I definitely wanna advocate that. No, that's not my mentality. But, what would happen when it becomes so taboo that everybody doesn't say anything or it becomes so short. You can't talk about it. Or it becomes socially not only acceptable because you know guys know what happens with the pendulum,

right? Swings one way and it goes the other way. To the point where it can start to become cool, you know what I mean? We're like, I don't care, you know, I look how big I am. This is awesome. You're skinny. You're starting to hear that a little bit in music and stuff. And so when that starts to happen, I wonder if that's gonna... I wonder if that was a little bit of a check-in balance that we might need, you know, to be there a little bit. So it doesn't become so. Because social pressures are powerful.

Let's be honest. If you become really overweight, and part of your motivation to maybe fix that a little bit, it might be the best motivation or the one you wanna end up with. But part of your motivation may be like, you know, I don't look as good out in public. And so, and it's an interesting thing to ponder.

I'm not saying it's, I have the answer with this, or one way or another, it's just an interesting thing to ponder and how, what, what influence that's going to have on, I guess, on the direction we're going. I don't know. Crazy. Good. Another reminder, go to MindPumpMedia.com, go to the podcast tab, check out our show notes. You'll like what you find there. Thank you for listening to MindPump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Superbumble at Mind Pump

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