Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 736: How to Improve Strength to Weight Ratio, Knowing When to Increase Calories, Nerve Damage & MORE

Episode Date: March 28, 2018

Organifi Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to improve strength to weight ratio, signs that your body would benefit from increasing calories, their experience with nerve damage and how to pull potential clients off the floor at a big box gym and sell them personal training. Sal buys “fake” poop and the fun ensues. (5:28) Proud parent alert! Sal’s daughter the comedian! (9:25) Marketing genius. Kings fans caught on video eating mayo at game. (12:55) Adam’s infantile “sensitive” palate. What are some of the weirdest foods the guys have eaten? (16:00) Legislate morality? 'Sex Robot' Brothels Gaining Popularity in Europe. (19:42) It’s so fun to do with your significant other. Mind Pump hacks: Get your Green Chef box! (36:00) Quah question #1 - How to improve strength to weight ratio? (39:55) Quah question #2 – What are signs that your body would benefit from increasing calories? (47:52) Quah question #3 – Any experience with nerve damage? (56:50) Quah question #4 - How do you pull potential clients off the floor at a big box gym and sell them personal training? (1:03:49) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Kings fans appeared to eat spoonful’s of mayonnaise straight from the jar Organifi **Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off** Inside Germany's first sex doll-only brothel where plastic prostitutes are rented out 12 times a day for £71-an-hour Westworld Green Chef MAPS Anywhere Cut calories by 15% to stay young, study says Metabolic Slowing and Reduced Oxidative Damage with Sustained Caloric Restriction Support the Rate of Living and Oxidative Damage Theories of Aging Ep 732-Max Lugavere- Genius Foods - Mind Pump The inflammation theory of disease People Mentioned: Robert Oberst (@robertoberst)  Instagram Mike Salemi (@mike.salemi)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Holly Baxter (HB Nutrition) (@hollytbaxter)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more How can you go wrong with this offer? To take advantage of this offer go to www.thrivemarket.com/mindpump You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS HIIT, an expertly programmed and phased High Intensity Interval Training program designed to maximize fat burn and improve conditioning. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

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It's right there. So the first question was, how do you improve your strength, strength to weight ratio? I know. I sound like Elmer Fudd for a second, Westcally Webbit. So, strength to weight ratio. That means basically how strong you are versus how much you weigh. A better strength to weight ratio means you're lighter and stronger, so you can move better. What's the best way to improve that? We give the answers in this episode. The next question was, what are the signs that your body may give you that tell you, hey, it's time to eat more food.

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Yeah. Once you're cavemen. Did you have to bring the poop in here? The fake poop. Yeah. You're such a dork. You know why bro? You know why?

Most of the way is uncomfortable. Why? Because I'm the shit. You're the shit. Dad joke number one. Did you ever get count? Is that something that was laying around or did you literally get all of the way?

I actually ordered fake food. I was sitting there talking to my kids and I was remembering, I don't remember what we were talking, oh, we were talking about like, like they always tell me my kids favorite thing to do, which by the way, if you're a parent and your kids do this to you, I don't know, maybe this will happen

at this happens to you too Justin. It's like the most heartwarming thing, but my kids are always like, what eating dinner and they're always like, but Pa, tell us a story about when you were a kid or tell us a story about when you were in school. And I just, it warms me up so much because my dad used to tell so many stories

when we were having dinner. I remember I would hear him tell the same stories over and over again, but I liked hearing them still. I knew it was gonna happen, but I get excited and my dad's very animated. So I'm telling them stories about funny shit that we would do with our kids, and when we were rascals and all this other stuff,

and I was trying to tie it in with some kind of a, and now you know, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The more you know. Yeah, like the old G.I. Joe, yeah. Yeah, whatever. So anyway, I was doing that, and I remember thinking, like, God, one of the funniest things

that I had when I was a kid was, well, there's two things I had. I had stink bombs. Yeah. I'm definitely not gonna give those to my kids. But they'll figure that one out. Dude, they sell a fart spray, by the way. I used to make them in chemistry.

They sell a fart spray. They sell a fart spray. I'm so close to buying it. A fart spray? Yes. Ooh, that's brilliant. Dude, you can just spray it. Spray it like on somebody.

Exactly. That's horrible. Exactly, so, but I ordered a dick move. I went on Amazon and I found fake poop. And so I ordered it. I thought it was so great. And then I walked into my house. And so I got tissue paper.

So I held the tissue, so I had the tissue, and I put it on the tissue paper. And I walked in and the kids were all there, and I'm like, oh, look what I found outside. I was like, ooh, that's through it. I threw it out. Everybody freaked out. Start laughing.

And now my kids are like, so my kids today, or no yesterday actually, I brought it to work yesterday. They're like, take it to work and play a prank on your friends and then film it for us. Oh yeah. I forgot to film it. Oh man. So what I want to do before I leave, maybe Adam,

with you, is I want you to pretend like you get tripped. Okay. Because the kids will get a drink. They're recreated, really sell it. Yeah. Well, Sal was trying to get Taylor and he puts it up on a chair, on a box, on an avocated. I don't think that's good of full-take.

Yeah, he box in like, not necessarily believable. What do you guys, this dog's jumped up on my chair and then gone to box and then shit on an app kid? I like the idea yesterday when you had it outside, like it was a bum just took a dump right next to the door. Yeah, that's believable. Yeah, I could actually have it.

I love it. Look at that thing. It looks so real. Yeah. Anyway, no, I love that too. It's not really. I love it. Look at that thing. It looks so real. Yeah. Anyway. No, I love that too. It's not really at dinner time necessarily. I tell the stories.

I'll usually tell it before bed. They always hijack when I'm reading them an actual story. They just won't have it anymore. They don't want me to actually read. Courtney shall read and get through the books with them and everything. They literally stop me mid-tracks and like make it funnier, daddy. I'm using different voice.

Like they're like really demanding. You know, it's like, oh shit, I gotta sharpen my screen. Now have you told them stories about yourself yet? Like when, oh, when I was a kid or when I was in high school, I know your kids are young. Okay. Yeah.

Because I don't know about you, man, but when my dad will tell me stories about, you know, the time he, you know, gotten to fight with the dude or the time he, you know, was able to lift this big thing or whatever. I was like listening to my superhero. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, they're just like captivated.

Every word. My kids love it, you know what I mean? It just so, it feels so good. But anyway, speaking of jokes, so, I'm so proud of my kids. So proud of my kids because they're way more confident than I was at their age, for sure, 100%. So my daughter's in second grade,

and they have a talent show in her whole school. And my daughter's like, I'm gonna be in the talent show. Now, this is in front of the whole school. And she's in second grade. So I don't think there's that many second graders who are gonna be the ones going up on stage. So she wants to do this talent show. Now I'm like trying hard to not transmit

my anxiousness and nervousness to her, you know what I mean? So she tells us and I'm like, are you sure you wanna do it? And I think to myself, be careful, don't question too much. I'm questioning her because I'm nervous. So I'm like, are you sure you want to do it? And I think to myself, be careful, don't question too much. I'm questioning her because I'm nervous. So I'm like, are you sure you want to do it? She's like, yeah, I want to do it. So I'm like, okay, I'm like, do you feel nervous?

And she's like, yeah, but I still want to do it. So I'm like, oh, fuck, this is cool. So at first what she wanted to do is she wanted to do a dance, like dance act. But then she like, wouldn't practice it with her mom and she didn't like to do it. And I'm like, and so I took her aside. And I said, do you, are you sure you really want to do this talent show? And she said, yes, I said, because you're not practicing, you know, if you're

really nervous and it's scaring you, you can tell me if you don't want to do it. And she's like, well, I am nervous. And I said, is it just that you don't want to dance? And she's like kind of, I said, why don't you do something else? So we started talking and so she's going to do a comedy act. She's going to do a stand-up act where she goes up and she tells jokes to the school. Tell her first joke again. So yesterday was a rehearsal. And the rehearsal was in front of not the whole school, but all the kids that are gonna be doing the town show

performing. Now I went to watch her and I'm fucking nervous. Were you standing up close or kind of on the side? I'm on the side in the back and your nails. Yeah, like nervous. And I'm nervous kind of for her, but also because you can't help but place yourself in their shoes.

Oh yeah. And in second grade, there's not an amelie, you couldn't have paid me, you couldn't have done anything that would have forced me to go on stage by myself to do anything in front of a bunch of kids, you know, it would just, it would have mortified me. Yeah.

So she's up there, I'm super nervous. And she just, she told the joke, she enunciated very well, a couple of people laughed, she comes down, and I'm just like so proud of her. So then afterwards, we're leaving it on the way home. I'm like, so, I'm like, you did so good, like I recorded just like so proud her. So then afterwards we're leaving it on the way home. I'm like, so I'm like, you did so good. Like I recorded it and I showed her. And I said, and she goes, I have another idea.

And I said, well, what do you want to do? She goes, I know what I want to wear when I go up there. So I mean, think of this. I'm like, I don't know what you want to wear. And she's like, I want to wear a banana suit. No way. Yeah, dude, no way. Yes, that's brilliant.

Don't we have the banana suit? Yeah, but she's not gonna Huge, yeah, is it huge? Yeah, it's for an adult, bro It's not one side for a little kid one size fits all is not even better Should even see what I won't even look like a banana look like a banana peel Yeah, no, dude. She wants to wear a banana suit and I'm just like and especially because she's my she's my girl Yeah, and I think sometimes girl. I know boys for sure encouraged to be funny and goofy But girls sometimes are I think embarrassed to do that because they might feel like they're not being cute or whatever and When you try to be funny you get you fail a lot. That's just part of being funny

Yeah, you have to practice right dude the fact she wants to wear fucking banana Switting it out there like that. Yes. So great man. It makes my heart warm. And that sells it even more too. And she just like intuitively like thought of that. That's great man. Dude, you get talking about funny and prank shit. I gotta share this.

You guys just reminded me of something now. Doug you gotta look to stuff so the boys can see this. So Google sacramino kings and mayonnaise. Oh yeah. This is fucking, this is so great. So as Doug's looking it up, let me tell you a little bit about the Sacramento Kings this year. So I believe that their viewership is down.

The team is just kind of struggling. They traded one of their star players this year, Demarkas Cousins. And I think like the team's been kind of taking a tank and so it's like attendance and shit So check this out. So this is this pops up on TV just like this is two days ago And it's these two girls one of them's wearing a sacramenes they're at the Kings game and they're look at their doing They're eating a jar of mayonnaise with a spoon Yeah, why it's fucking brilliant. Wait, wait, do they work for the kings? So I explained the brilliance. So the brilliance is, if Doug can get it up there. So if the brilliance behind it is, it looks fucking disgusting.

Now, the rumor is that it's just pudding. And that you see them going back and forth, and they're just eating spoonfuls. Just going to tell it's just, you can't help, but when you're watching it live, so I saw it on sports center, seeing it all over now. So we're not, I predicted this trend. We talked about mayonnaise earlier, remember?

This is the thing now. I got that. Yeah, somebody gave me shit about it from England saying like, oh, yeah, we eat mayonnaise and fries all the time. So we'll go. What's brilliant about this is that this is for sure put on by the marketing team. Cause they, they play, look at this, girls pointing at it. And then they just start spooning out mayo back and forth.

Just spoonfuls of course, somebody's, of course they're going to share that nasty. Yeah. So this thing is gone. It was actually made. Oh, it's gone viral. Everybody's talking about it. It's popped up on sports. And this is ES Yeah, so this thing has gone. It was actually made. Oh, it's gone viral. Everybody's talking about it. It's popped up on sports. So this is ESPN that's showing it right now.

So it is gone everywhere. And it's such a brilliant, brilliant, smart. It's brilliant, right? It's so subtle. The girl's wearing a King's hat. You know, it's at the Sacramento King's gang game. So imagine how much publicity that this thing just got.

It just shows you how much thought has to go into viral videos or things that like certain ideas, they have to be so carefully constructed now. I love, when I see you bet this starts to, how much do I want to bet this is gonna start a trend? It already is. People are gonna try eating mayonnaise. It's already tried, look at our forum.

What made me remember this was, did you know that there's a threat on our forum right now where everyone's talking about mayonnaise and people eating it straightener. Because of what we thought. This buzz is what caused that. The person on the forum knows it or not, but like this is going, being going all over the place. And so I'm sure they, somebody from our forum saw something related to this that prompted

them to probably bring up or share something else related to it. But I just love when I see stuff like that in marketing that I think is just fucking brilliant. That was very smart. Brilliant, brilliant. I mean, they literally have millions of eyes on them in the last two days when they were struggling with people probably watching them.

What's the man-a-z eating? What's the grossest thing that you guys will eat that you think people will be like, oh, does do you guys have anything like that? I mean, I'll eat a whole cube of butter. Oh, damn, you took mine. Will you really? Yeah, me too. Like, straight E to that? I mean, I'll eat a whole cube of butter. Oh, damn you took mine. Will you really? Yeah, me too.

Like straight E to Q? I'll, I'll, no problem. I'll bite right into a block of butter, no problem. When I was a kid, I used to get in trouble for that. A whole block of cheese. Yeah, no problem. Of course. But I used to get in trouble for that.

So my mom would go in the, in the fridge, open the fridge, and there'd be like a bite chunk out of the, the, the, the beer of'd be like a bite chunk out of the, the beer of butter, and she'd know it was me, I was a little kid, and I'd get in big old trouble for it. But I still, like, ghee, you know, ghee, all the tablespoon of ghee by itself. Love it.

Love ghee, some carmaline. I don't know if I have any weird eating habits like that. Trying to think of what I would do. You have a very infantile palate, so I don't know. I don't mean that it looks like that. Trying to think of what I would. You have a very infantile palate, so I don't know. I don't mean that. And listen to this. You know, you like sweet. I've never been insulted like that.

I never had. I said, I don't know. I take that. I was like, I was like, but it's just going to fire back. It's something really mean. I thought like, is that really that much of an insult? No, it's, you know, I mean,

you eat his pre-chewed food. You throw a curve on me right there. No, you like sweet like tasty things and everything's gross to you and everything's gross to you. Well, you know what I mean? I, my dad had sardines when he was a kid or when I was a kid and so I never liked the smell of them and just the texture's gross and slimy to me.

So that never appealed to me. And then anchovies, same thing I felt about them, but there's not a lot of foods that I'm disgusted in or I don't like. It's true, you like shellfish. Oh yeah, oh yeah, I'll eat a lot of shellfish. Do you like like liver, like chicken liver, beef liver?

I don't prefer it. I would eat it if it's coach rye prepared, right? You know, I wouldn't just eat it, eat it like plain. But you are, you do have a like sensitive palate, again, read the right word, right? Where you're like, you know what? This was actually the one of the litmus tests for organifier when we had them,

is we had to like the ingredients and, you know, I'm probably, okay, yeah, so I'm probably the most snobby about our part. Maybe that's right, right? Yeah, I'm probably the most snobby at a five-time, yeah. Yeah, the pallet of a child. That's like, you can only hand her Gerber.

I was like, I don't know how to take this. I was looking down at you. Baby cares with my monocle. You know, I remember when we started, I mean, we just got, we always get stuff sent to us, right? And so we don't always share it. If we don't care for it very much,

or it's not a product we pick up. But yeah, organophile was one of the, I remember when they first sent over stuff for us to try. You know, that to me is the first thing, because here's the thing, like, and I support Sal when he talks about, like it's gotta be, he's the type of person who will, if it tastes like shit, if it's good for me,

I'll stomach and put it down. But I'm not the average person at all. And I recognize we're running a business here, so that is something that you're not the norm. And so for me, it's like, when I taste something, it's got to taste good. And then if it's, if it's really healthy for us to, like, that's a win. Like, okay, cool. And that was like, organify. Organify was definitely one of those brands where the gold juice, you won't even shut up about that. I mean, that, and that legit taste, dude, it's tastes so good. Yes. All of the corny

and I drink that like on a regular. If I'm being honest, what product I use the least of theirs is probably the protein powder, the green, the red and the orange juice I use on a very, and then the probiotic. Those things I use on a pretty regular basis. I mean, the gold juice, red, green, and gold. Would I say orange? Orange.

Yeah, it's got to come. It's got to come. It's more of an orange color to me. I know they call it their gold juice, but it's a little orange color to me. It's a, it's got to kind of, it's got to, it's got to, it's more of an orange color to me. I know they call it their gold juice, but it's a little, it's an orange color. It's a golden orangeish. But yeah, so I'm, I guess we can call me the flavor snub. The flavor snub. That sounds like another podcast.

We can start. We can start. That does. Yeah. Anyway, so, dude, I have, I have a little bit of more things we've predicted that are actually happening. Oh, do you? Yeah, so bring it.

I know that we've talked a bit about this whole, what's gonna happen with robots and banging them and all that kind of stuff, right? And so there's actually like brothels that are popping up all over the place. In Europe, that are popping up all over the place in Europe that are getting a lot of backlash because you know inevitably there's rape fantasies, there's all these types of things that are already starting to happen with these bang dolls.

What? This is real dolls. Of course. Real the real dolls and yeah, and some of the robots. I will say right here right now one of the biggest controversies coming our way is gonna be pedophilia with the sex dolls or robots. That was another thing they brought up. Yep, that's already happening. Guarantee you, that's gonna be a major, major controversy in debate because the argument's gonna be,

well, it's not hurting anybody. And the other argument's gonna be like, that's terrible and disgusting. And then who cares what people do in there? It's gonna go, well, it's not hurting anybody. And the other argument's gonna be like, that's terrible and disgusting. And then, who cares what people do? And they're, it's gonna go back and forth. I learned to, like, I saw that in the news. And I was like, I don't know if it was in France or Germany, but it was definitely,

they're already trying to figure out how to, you know, put laws in place for these types of things that are already happening. And if it is, like a moral concern or not, like they're trying to figure it out. You know, I think it's not that hard to regulate this even though I know we're not pro-regulated, but I think as a sex toy company, you shouldn't be making children sex toys. That would be really fucking inappropriate. So I think for on their on their end, but as far as, you know, as long

as the the doll is like a 20-year-old of looking, I don't see anything wrong with that. And I think that's the only, I think that's the way that you restricted is you hold the standard to the companies that are making it. It's like, well, here's the way I look at it. As far as laws are concerned, if you're not hurting another human

or stealing from another human, live human or whatever, then I don't think there should be laws against it. Now, that doesn't mean that I think it's okay or cool or whatever. I definitely think that people should and they do have the right to boycott and put social pressure. So if there's a brothel that's doing these types of things and nobody's getting hurt, should we pass a law law? No because it's immoral to take people and Fine or jail them for doing nothing to nobody but themselves. So that it's you can't solve that problem I already have doing something like that though. I would wonder like so if you're desired outcome

If you're if you're protesting these these brothels, right? So if that's if you're you're saying okay, listen it We shouldn't put any sort of regulation on it But we obviously should it occur in curries or allow people to stand out pick it or do whatever. Which is, it's, it's, I mean, that's, that's all non-violent. Right. But the irony in that is what the people that see them, that see wrong with that and that are out there picketing it. It's going to give it more publicity and more, more people are going to know about it, which in turn will probably just drive more people getting involved in it.

So we are entering into a time where, you know, what do they call it, moral relativism, where more and more, we are gonna be testing our moral fabric and the way we're gonna test it is, hey, if it doesn't hurt anybody, then who cares? And what's the big deal? And, you know, we're gonna have it is, hey, if it doesn't hurt anybody, then who cares? And what's the big deal? And, you know, we're gonna have to ask these tough questions. I don't think you should legislate morality.

It doesn't work, it never has worked. Causes more problems. And to be honest with you, I don't want to- Separation and church and state. Yeah, that's so important. I don't want to put in charge, I never want to put anybody in charge who decides what they can legislate

in terms of morality, because we know where that goes, right? But I think socially Like, you know, it's unacceptable socially be open put some pressure like if I see somebody doing some shit that I think is Not cool or immoral Again, don't get mad at me for saying so again though will the pressure and the protesting Will it only backfire? I mean let if This is something that a lot of people wouldn't even know about it if Justin didn't say something or mention it now people You for sure there's a percentage of people now go research and look at it now

There's a percentage of those people that will probably actually do it right remember so you know if there's this small group of people that I'm perpetuating the, if there's this small group of people that are perpetuating the problem. Is that your saying? Well, that's, you know, my point is just to play devil's advocate with Sal, because Sal is saying, like, well, you know, we don't regulate it. Let's just allow it to happen. But then I believe that people should be allowed to protest it. And whatever, because that's free, freedom of speech. But what I'm saying is, like, well, the people that are protesting it, if they're desired outcome is to get it shut down and Regulated and not to happen Pro-testing is actually probably not the best route of doing that because all it's really gonna do right you're bringing up

It's relevance and right. It's how I mean I more eyes to it It's how I feel about violence in it We put it all this stuff on the news all time and we talk about all this violence and racism things like that Well the more we talk about on the news it's not helping the yeah, it's the same with terror People like to talk about this bullshit awareness thing, like, oh, it's better for us because we're making more people aware of it. Are it really?

Well, sometimes it's better, but you know, you're right. It doesn't guarantee something's going to stop. Like, for example, if you have a company that says, you know, we don't want to serve our, we don't want to make a wedding cake for a gay wedding. And my argument is, well, it's their business, they should be able to be assholes if they want to. There shouldn't be a law that says,

you can't be an asshole. If you want to be an asshole, be an asshole. However, I definitely think people should protest, boycott, and bring it to life. But that will lose a lot of business, they will. But we'll also have also have to do that. That's their right to do that. Well, we'll also happen.

He's gonna get all the other people, anti-gay people who will go over and just try to support them, right? And try to give them money. The way I look at it is this. It's a war of ideas. A war of ideas doesn't involve violence unless somebody you're defending yourself

and defending your property, shouldn't involve violence. If you believe in your ideas enough, then they should win. But here's the real moral argument. Here's the real thing that we need to worry about. Because at the end of the day, all you can really worry about is yourself. All you can really change is yourself. If you know what's that saying, you want to be the change you want in the world, right? All you can do is worry about yourself. So if I speak out about someone, it's not necessarily only because I want that business shut down, because if I just wanted it

to be shut down, I could go lobby the government, and I'm sure if I got enough people, we could get the government to do pretty much anything we want, whatever, to infringe on liberties and all that stuff. Really, the reason why I'm speaking out is my own, because it's my own moral imperative. I feel it's wrong, and if I don't speak out, or if I don't do anything against it,

then, and I know what's happening, it's there, I feel like I'm actually part of it. And this is true throughout all of history, you know? Yeah, but that's where I would argue the other side. Like you not saying anything is probably more powerful in that sense. I don't know. I mean, that's self-serving for you,

because you have a problem with it morally, and so you want to stand up and you want to say something. But if you think about your real desired outcome is less people to do it, I think that, and especially if you're also pro that you can't, that won't stop them. You're just hoping that you're going to hurt their business, but in reality, you're actually giving their business

more attention. More damage has been done worldwide. More terrible things have happened worldwide, not because people didn't say anything, but because people, not because people said something, but because people didn't say anything. Way more death destruction, discrimination, horrible, horrible acts.

If you look at all these terrible acts, then I'm sure there was one or two drivers, but really the main problem is all these fucking people didn't say something. And so I don't think that the problem is people speaking out. I think the problem is, and yes, are there people that speak out just to hear their own voice

and if you like their important, of course, social media is full of it. But people who really care and really do something, for the most part, I think that's a better way to be, and it brings things out to light, and opens up the debate. Let's have this actual real discussion rather than ignoring stuff that's not happening.

Yeah, but again, if we have this debate and lots and lots of people start going like, oh my God, yeah, I totally disagree with that. Shame, and we shame this company like crazy. Would that get your desired outcome? What do you have to understand? What is that? Is it just a vote, voice your opinion?

Because you don't see it's morally like, what are you serving there? Are you really serving the cause? Because what's going to end up happening is more people know about it. If, let's say the three of us didn't know each other and we saw this cause, we're all anti it. This now makes me go, oh my God, I speak out

and we all go to our Instagram. We all do an image post. We write a long post about how morally wrong this is. I can't believe that. Now, between the three of us, we've now introduced it to, 80,000 more people that may have not seen it. Sure. Maybe is that a good thing?

Maybe. I think more often than not though, I would put my money on the fact that, if in fact, you is that a good thing? Maybe I think more often than not though I would put my money on the fact that if in fact you do make a good case and you do make a good argument and you do have the maybe right idea I think more often than not you will succeed more often than not. And history has proven that history has proven that over and over in time and time again. I think sometimes people think that they're going to get something to change and in fact, it backfires, but I think for the most part, maybe it's like, look, actually sticks.

That's right. I don't know, I think using history as an example is not a good example. That's the best example we have. But be sure, but I don't think it's a good one for this. I think that we're heading into a time that is completely different. We didn't have the ability to post something on social.

Do you think it will be socially acceptable, honestly, for people to go have sex with dolls that look like children? At some point, do you think that will be morally acceptable? No, I think it's so morally unacceptable. My argument is that you potentially put that regulation on the company that they're not allowed to do that. You're not allowed to make a doll that's under the age of 18.

That should be a law. If our laws are already in place that an adult can't sex a minor or a sex company. You can't. Yeah, well, that's the question. That's the question. What happens if they break the law? So then they would they either be shut down or they get fined like. Right.

So what you're advocating for and this is why it's as important as a great discussion. It's a very important discussion. Well, you're advocating for is violence and force against someone that committed no violence and no force. So if they make some, they make a doll, they're not hurting anybody. It's a, it's a, it's a, I'm not arguing necessarily that I would say that they're violence or force is because I don't, I don't see a fine or saying that you can't do that. I'm arguing that it would be that they get violence or force is because I don't I don't see a fine or saying that you can't do that. I'm arguing that it would be more effective than the way you think it's going to be. I mean, as much as I'm a free market free speech guy and I'm right on along with you

with a lot of libertarian views, this is an area that is going to be really challenging for these libertarian type views because now you're fucking with something that we've never messed with before and there is no history to debate this over. It could. It could be, but here's the thing. How many moral things or immoral things happen today that you think are should be stopped. How many of those would you put laws on? Well, like, why don't we have law saying because they used to be on the books. It is. It was illegal for you to commit adultery.

It is, you know, it was a, it's illegal in many, most places for prostitution. It's illegal in most places to take certain drugs or do certain things. That's the problem. It's like the free speech. Free speech is absolute. You can't have these kinds of exceptions because that is a slippery slope.

And let me ask you this, who determines this morality? Do you really trust bureaucrats to determine what's more and what not? And what if somebody goes in power, like that's never, it's a tough space. But I mean, it's very different. Talking about it, it's like I have opinions, you know, I have a fabric that I,

and a code that I operate under. And so if I have a problem with it, it's gonna, like I can't not say something. You know, if somebody's gonna ask me about I'm gonna say something, is it gonna be desired outcome? It's a good point, I don't know. You know, like it's, it turns into sort of like

a spinning your wheels kind of a thing. I already know the argument's gonna happen, I guarantee it. I can tell you right now what will happen is they'll show some study that shows that, hey, if we let people do this with these types of dolls it'll decrystallize. Yes, and they're going to come out with all these different arguments and whatever and

trying to get a law for against it. It's going to be interesting. It'll be very interesting, but socially speaking I think it's so socially unacceptable. Thank God. Thank goodness I think it's so socially unacceptable, thank God, thank goodness. That, I mean, it's so socially unacceptable that among the worst of society, the criminals and the rapists and the murderers, you go to jail and you mess with a kid, you're dead, like you're ruined, you're fucked. You know, even within that realm. Within that realm of people who do some terrible, terrible, terrible shit,

that's like, they won't touch that. Well, do you believe that we should be able to, like so we have the technology to, I mean, all the way to make the most destructive guns out there, do you think we should be allowed to purchase guns that could destroy a city? That people shouldn't have a gun? How's that different?

Yeah, that's a company who's producing weapons. Right now we allow you only to use certain types of weapons. Why don't we just let everybody have to do that?'s a very very very good question now and that's been argued so much in the supreme court you know the constitution says that the people should be a well-armed malicious so the arguments been made well people should have the ability to have the same arms as the military but then of course on the other side of that, we know that's not true. Yeah, on the other side of that is like insanity.

Now, is that an equal argument? Maybe on a moral one, but on a pragmatic one? I doubt it, I think it's different, but it's very similar. It can be, but also very different. Like if you owned a nuke and you messed up, you know, you killed everybody, how would you store it? How would you dispose of it? How would you maintain it? I mean, yes, we can have that moral conversation. Yeah, but you can't take one argument that you were just using for the doll thing and you can't now change it just because it's guns. I mean, you got to stay with that same theory that it should be completely legal and fine for an arms dealer that to be able to make whatever weapons they want

and sell to the public. And it should be, and we should be allowed to pick it in and say no, it's not okay and hope that we stop it. Well, I don't see that. Like I said, I think at the end of the day, the only laws that are, even, look, here's a deal,

and the future, the only laws that are gonna exist are gonna be the ones that protect your body and your property, mainly because I don't even know how we would even regulate that in the future anyway. How are you going to regulate the dolls? That's okay. Again, this is why this is so interesting is that's why I don't like you using history as an example to try and prove your point is we are moving in a time that the new rules are going to, the playing field is fucking different bro no matter how you spin it.

And this is what we're doing. We can 3D print everything. Right, no, it actually still applies because, again, is legislating something like that in the future. Good luck, even if you could, good luck with that. And should you legislate something that is causing, is not hurting you, buddy. It's gonna be a very interesting controversial argument. I have no idea where it's gonna go.

I'm pretty sure if I had to bet money that they're gonna pass laws banning it, 100%. I'm pretty sure there's gonna be laws that say you can't make these kind of dolls. But, I don't know, man. Yeah, I don't know where I stand on. I mean, I'm just, I'm playing Devils Advocate with you right now because I've already thought

about this discussion and it's... Oh, dude, it's a very challenging... It's gonna get crazy. Oh, man. Yeah. It's a very challenging one as far as like, what do I think is the right thing for us to get it's gonna get crazy Bro, it's gonna get crazy to where you know people are gonna I Hunter I guarantee you there's gonna be robots that you're gonna go into a game or like a big building and you go hunt the robot and kill it or I and you go hunt the robot and kill it. Or, right. Are you kidding me? Just like Westworld. Dude, yes.

It's terrible. That's why I love that show. I love that show. Isn't that starting up? There's a new season coming. It's I think like next week it starts up. Ugh. Can't wait for that show.

I love that show. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting, man. It's gonna be really interesting in the future. See what happens. Yes, yes, we're all in the world. Like the conundrum. Right, here we come. Hey, I saw you got your green chef blocks yesterday.

Yes, I had another one, dude, I love, you know, I like most about it. Besides the food's really good, good quality, you know, mostly organic, all that stuff. It's just so fun to do with your significant other. That's what you said last time. It takes about, so the one we made the other night took us 40 minutes.

So you have all the ingredients prepped for you. It was sausage and vegetables and they include seasoning, which there are a few things in there that they don't tell you like the exact measurements and I think probably to protect their recipes because the recipes are really fun. Well then you can be kind of creative to your own palate. Yeah, so everything's out there for you. So we're just preparing it and we had a little bit of wine. I don't know if I like you sharing this. You know, you shared this on the podcast already and you know, fucking Katrina, she served me last time.

I didn't actually have to cook it with her. So, but she definitely listened to the podcast and was giving me shit like, dude, what the fuck? Because you weren't involved. Yeah, I think it was a bomb. I'm upstairs. Your voice thrown you into the bus.

Right, I'm watching basketball. Up comes my green chef, you know, Katrina serves it to me and so that she goes, you know, it'd be nice if you cooked in the kitchen with me like, like, Sal's girl does. And on the side, let me tell you something, you'll have great sex.

I promise, you'll have great. I don't know, this might be one of those tips like you gave with reading with your shoes. Oh, this is another hack, dude. It's what you know what it is, it's when you're making something with someone and it doesn't have to be cooking, like you could like build something together,

because I've done a couple things like that with Jessica. You're just making something together, it you feel, I don't know, it's a fucking, it's really fun. Anyway, so what I'm gonna do with my next green chef box is I'm gonna do with my kids, because all the ingredients are cut and everything, so they can, you know, they can learn how to cook. Yeah, dude, how funny you think I would be with the kids,

right? No, that's a smart idea. Well, that'd how funny you think that would be with the kids, right? No, not to smart idea. That'd be a blast. Right, right. So I had a few people that tried it, but they're like, oh man, so expensive. And that always makes me laugh when people are like, it's so expensive. It's like, well, yeah, no shit. Like it's everything in it.

It's healthy or can't. And they do all the work for you. Like, you know, we're in our count for all that stuff. Yeah, are we, yeah, are we comparing this to fucking lunchables? Is that what you're like? Yeah, no shit, it's more expensive. It costs less than going out to dinner for sure. That costs more.

And if we talk, we're gonna get like a $3 talk. Right, everybody should know by now, like when we, I'll tell you right now, when we do decide products or companies that we go for quality. Yes, price is not trying to be cheap. Sorry, not sorry. Yeah, like yeah, that's where we can actually stand behind it and actually put our stamp on.

Right. And when you actually look at it, when you break it down, like a lot of people don't realize it's not at all. It's like the, I remember the first time I got that about thrive too. I'm like, are you kidding me? Like when you do the math on it, it's cheaper than everywhere else. It's not as expensive. If you eat out, it's because we've been conditioned

to be, to, for cheap, for food. Oh, like we've been conditioned the worst idea. One time a day, which I would argue most people do, most people eat out one. At least four days a week, right? And at least, right, eat out that much. It's cheaper than that.

Yeah, so now do that. It's healthy. You cook it with like oils and everything under your control, you know, because you go out and eat. It's like, you don't even really know how to prepare it. So this is a great alternative to that. And if you're, look, if you're a guy,

I'm telling you right now, I promise you, this is a fucking hack. If there's a girl you're going out with or you just met, invite her over. I'm trying to get you laid. Invite her over for a green chef night. You got the box, you open it up and you just cook together

and you don't look like an asshole because you don't know what you're doing because it's all right there for you. Right, right, man. Cool little picture and everything comes with it. This quads brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition,

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at the time. A year has passed and I'm about 5 to 7 kilograms heavier and it can still manage only 4 despite all my lifts increasing. Do I need to change or adapt my training to improve this? So this is maps anywhere. Yeah, you probably got heavier. That's probably why your lifts got, yeah, see, it is. I am about five. So your strength to weight ratio didn't change because you got heavier. So one of the easiest ways to, and I know I experienced this back in the day when I would do the bulk and cut like when I would go, I'd get my body weight up to like 220 and then I'd drop it down and get down to 190. And of course, when I was down to 190, I always be able to do way more pullups.

And it's because my weight went down. So strength to weight ratio refers to your ability to maneuver or handle your own body weight. This favors smaller people with a smaller stature. So people who tend to be shorter or leaner tend to have more strength to weight ratio just because they have less weight to move. Which makes it kind of a conflicting goal

if you're also trying to gain. That's right. Those are kind of conflicting goals or adaptations that you're focusing on. So if you really cared about strength weight ratio and that was like your primary goal, I would say you follow a program like maps anywhere and you lean out.

You lean out and you follow a body weight type of a program, you're gonna see incredible strength the weight ratio happen. Yeah, you'd focus more on tension moves and like really focusing on your central nervous system and like how to increase strength in that direction versus like loaded situations. Right. And you're definitely not trying to gain weight. So if you're gaining weight, which even if it's all good weight, it doesn't matter. Your goal isn't really to gain weight.

Your goal is to increase your strength to weight ratio, which it would be advantageous to reduce your body fat or lean out while you're training a lot of body weight type of movements. Otherwise, where you see your, where you see you out with the numbers that you put. I would be very proud of that. Right, yeah, that's because that's 10 to, that's about 10 to 15 pounds or 16 pounds. If I gained 16 pounds and I was able to do the same amount of pull ups, I would be very happy. Right, I take that same person, like literally, let's say this person said, okay, now follow maps anywhere and lean out, lose 10 to 15 pounds. I guarantee their reps on their pull ups would be the same.

At least three more or something like that. Oh, insane. I would think it would go up even more than that. I mean, because you're, you've, that's a lot of weight, five to seven kilograms. You're talking about a 15 pound plus difference that this person's are of 12 to 15 pound you're matching what you did previously. And you're more than matching. They started at four and now they're up to 10 pull ups. They've more to double.

No, no, no, no, no. The goal is 10. Yeah. They can still do it more. They said he's got to 10 hour. Yeah. The goal, so he stayed the same. So four and four.

Okay. Okay. So he's still, I mean, he's definitely gotten strong. So here's a good example. We had Robert Obers down and we were hanging out with him. He's the world strongest man competitor, massive human being, six foot eight, three hundred and 75 pounds, stupid strong. He dwarfs the song. Ridiculous strong.

Like, you know, my best squat ever in my entire life was close to five hundred pounds. He's squatted over nine hundred pounds. So just way stronger at every lift, but I bet you in pullups I could compete with them. I might even be able to beat them. Now am I stronger than Robert Obers? No, I'm just way lighter.

You know what I mean? He's 375, I weigh 186 pounds. So my strength-to-weight ratio on that particular lift may be better. Does that make me a stronger individual? No, not really. Strength rate ratio is cool though for certain things. If you're obstacle course racing, you want that.

You want a really good strength to weight ratio. Are you in a weight class, do you compete in a weight class like wrestling or boxing or something like that? Yeah, then strength to weight ratio makes a big difference because now you're in a weight class and you're way stronger at your weight than your competitors. Is a strength to weight ratio important when you play a sport like football where they don't give a shit how much away?

Not nearly as much. In fact, having a better strength to weight ratio might not be a good thing when you're a lineman where you just wanna be fucking strong and heavy. A sport that would matter would be like wrestling that would matter way more. Yeah, because of the weight classes, right? Absolutely. So now, here's a good tip.

If you are trying to increase your reps on something, here's a very, very easy tip. Do a little bit of that movement every day. So what I mean by that is this particular person can only do four reps in the pull-up. I'm assuming it's four reps max. Like that's the most they could do. So it's four reps in the pull-up. I'm assuming it's four reps max. Like that's the most I could do. So it's four reps the failure. So here's what I recommend. Several times a day, go do one or two pull-ups

on a pull-up bar. That's it. Don't do anything hard. Just go do one pull-up practice. It come down. Do that like three, four times a day. Just hone in on that signal. Yep, do it every single day.

And then after a few weeks weeks match that same intensity. So, so what I mean by that is if you could do four max, you know what the intensity feels like to do one. So just practice one. When that intensity just do one, all of a sudden feels easier, like, well, that feels a lot easier. Increase it to two. And then when that becomes easy, like it was for you originally when you did one, now increase it to three. And little by little, you'll get to the point where you're doing four pull-ups several times a day and it's no longer to failure, it's four easy pull-ups. And this is a technique I've used many times

on many, many lifts. I've gotten my deadlift to improve doing this. I've gotten my bench press to improve doing this. I've gotten stronger in whatever lift I decided I wanted to do. I would take a really kind of lightweight that I could kind of feel, but that was easy. I'd set it aside and of course I work in a gym. So that made it a lot easier. You know who else has really good strength, the weight ratio. Rock climbers.

Huge. Huge. Yeah. It's just the amount of fre- it's the frequency, right? It's constantly contracting and it's just like all your entire body is involved. Dude, and your grip is ridiculous. I think Mike Selimmy is one of the strongest strength away game. Oh, yeah, he's a great game. Same. I don't like off the top of my head. I don't know. Strength away?

Yes. Strength away because he's like what? 150 something. 160 maybe. Yeah, 160 he weighs with that guy's fucking squatted like four, 500 pounds easily. Oh, he's a strong, stronger than all of us. Right. And he's like half our size way.

We ask him. I mean, yeah, and the technique, like he's mastered because of the practice. Yes. Right. And so that's such a humongous factor, even in you look at any Olympian, it's like the reason why they're the best

is because they do it so frequently. Yeah, there's something to be said about having a good strength await ratio as it applies to everyday life. Is it good to just have a lot of strength? Yeah, there's some benefit to that, but strength-to-weight ratio, when you go about your day, you're just every day stuff. Oh, for overall health, it's way more...

Do you guys notice a difference when you have that? It was really good. I mean, it's incredible. The way I move the way I do things is like, holy shit, man, I feel so good because I'm really strong for my body weight. And then there's been other times when I was way stronger, but I was also way heavier. And then you just feel like you're a big mountain dude.

I remember this vividly when I was training for football. And like you said, weight was kind of like one of those things, they want you to get heavier because they feel like, well, your performance is gonna go up because people you're facing a lot of times are a lot bigger than you and they're more powerful because they're like throwing their mass at you. So I did. I went and I, over the summer, bulked up and again, you know, like 20 pounds, came back, movement sucked, you know, responsiveness sucked. And I was actually, you know, flat on my heels to where, like, they would beat me off of the first step. So, to me, it was a disadvantage. So, the next season, the cut back down,

got into a better strength-to-weight ratio and did way better, like phenomenally better. Yeah, no body weight training is great for this. I mean, Adam already mentioned Maps anywhere. Maps anywhere is designed without any equipment at all and it's probably one of the best, it's definitely the best program we have for improving straight to racial, racial, I would say.

Next up is Clubinator. What are signs that your body would benefit from increasing calories? Oh, that's a really good question. It is. You know what's this, so this, there was an article I was gonna bring up earlier, and this is a great segue into it,

and it's perfect for this. So, I just read an article I was going to bring up earlier. This is a great segue into it. It's perfect for this. So I just read an article, more science coming out showing that reducing caloric intake. So they took a bunch of people and they reduced the corollic intake by 15%. And they tracked them for two years, so for a while. And they all showed signs of reduced or slower aging. All the things that we can measure at least

in terms of aging. Oh wow, that's interesting. Now we've known this in animals for a long time. We know if we take a mouse, we take mice, and we feed some 20% less calories that they'll actually increase significantly longer, like 30% longer. And this is true for most animals,

and it looks like it's true for humans as well. So here's what's interesting about this, right? On the one hand, there's that that we know if you can get by with eating less and your body can adapt that probably good for longevity. But then here's the flip side of that. In the context of modern lifestyle, you probably will want a metabolism that's burning faster or hotter because the reality is you're so exposed to food all the time. Well, this goes to, this is where the explosion of IIFYM

has happened in our generation is this, it allows this flexibility of if you eating other types of foods because that's where you're going with this, right? Is that, you know, you live in this modern era, let's be realistic, like it would not be advantageous to having a low, you know, calorie maintenance, and then occasionally having a fucking whole pizza every now and then, or crushes.

Now the benefits are gone. You get now more detriment from the fact that you have a slow metabolism, than you would benefit because, and we're talking, we're talking, we're, you know, when I'm talking about this, I'm talking within healthy parameters. There are situations where metabolism gets really slow, like, you know, like if you starve yourself or anorexic or if you over-train over work yourself, you get hormone imbalances and all that stuff, that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the healthy range. You know, if you can get your metabolism to slow down

within the healthy range, longevity wise, that's better. But in the context of modern life, unless you're like super regimen in about it, and that's just how you live, it's probably better to have a faster metabolism. Otherwise, you gain body fat and then you get all the... I think there's a sweet spot for everybody, and I think we're all uniquely different, right?

Like I've been on both ends of the spectrum right now in just the last two years. So right now being injured, not moving around. Like I'm only eating once, maybe twice a day right now, which we all know that's crazy for me. I'm the one who argued always eating five, six times a day because I needed to hit that chloric intake. Now the motherfucker of this is, I'm back into training,

am I, now I'm starting to put on a little bit of muscle. I just... You have appetite starting to go up? It's a little bit, you know. I'm starting to eat a little bit more, but I'm also having a hard time losing body fat. Like, a normal body fat kind of melts off me. Now I have a lot of things going on with me hormonally and stuff like that that I'm sure play a factor in this, but man, I'm consuming very, very little in comparison.

Now I know when I was doing shows consistently and training like that and eating five, six times a day and having my caloric intake four, five thousand calories. Man, when I made an adjustment on my diet or did something where I just reduced, oh, my body would just respond. And so it's less responsive to these changes that I do by adding movement or exercise or reducing

like maybe some foods that are not ideal in my diet. My body isn't responding as fast because I don't have this kind of roaring metabolism that I've had in the past. So, I definitely think there's drawbacks to both sides of that, right? So I think, and then also having it so high to where I become dependent on four or five thousand calories,

it would also make it really tough for me to hang on to all that muscle mass because I have to be eating that much. So I do believe that everybody has kind of a very natural kind of homeostasis that you find and stressing yourself too much, too high all the time and either too low or too high is not ideal. I think the other side of this too is

a lot of people do the reverse dieting thing because they wanna eat more food, not because necessarily they need to... You know, they have metabolic damage. Yeah, they have metabolic damage. So like our friend Lane, he just did a post where I guess his girlfriend Holly is, I guess the post that she finally agreed to reverse diet.

And he's talking about how, with the amount of muscle she has, the amount of activity she does, she should be able to consume about 1800 and 1900 calories without gaining weight. Minimum. But instead, she's consuming about 15 or 16 hundred. That's all holy eats.

That's what it says. Holy shit. And he says he thinks, you know, he wants to reverse diet her to get her calorie intake up. And I read that and I said, okay, I can see why? Because then she could eat more of this than that. But was she unhealthy at the 15, 1600? If you had to pick purely on health,

just purely for health and longevity, not lifestyle or anything else, would it be healthier for your body to be adapted and function and perform at lower calories than at higher calories? Let's say everything, if everything was equal, would it be healthier to be able to consume less calories and more calories?

The answer is probably yes, probably yes, just from all the current research that we have. But again, with the context of modern life, it's having that cushion allows you to go on vacation. I'm more flexibility. Enjoy yourself, do certain things. And so unless you are like this nutrition monk, and I don't want to be too jokedful about it

because I can kind of be like that sometimes, and it's not like I'm trying to be super strict, it's just the way I tend to be. If that's how you want to be, then that's okay. But the question, we shouldn't go. I usually just flux it off of the activity levels and like where I'm currently out and my training as far as like what my body like intuitively sort of, I mean, you tend to crave, you want to decipher between cravings and what your body actually needs of course

because you can get tricked by that, you know, for sure, like your body's telling me, oh, you know, I think it's time for me to start ramping up my calories, you know, like really is, are you putting the work in for that? And you don't understand the angle you guys are going as far as reverse dieting and somebody in that sort of space. But just for an increase of calories, just to keep it kind of on a simple thought process with that, it was really like, where am I at as far

as my output and my work? Well, yeah, the other side to this question is, you know, okay, we're talking deeper like metabolic damage and increasing your calorie maintenance. Well, how about somebody who's just on a cut, right? You're on your first week of cutting and you've been, you know, pushing calories lower, lower, lower, like some signs for me personally, like, I'm, you're watching me right now, and if you watched my, I've been posting my workouts, and at the top of the first couple of days, I was letting people know where my weight is. Now, I'll do that again, so people see, but I actually do not, for me, this

is my body type, this what happens, like when I start to exercise and eat better, I tend to lean out faster. Well, I don't wanna see my scale weight change really much right now. I know that I'm exercising now. I'm lifting weights. I wasn't doing that just a month and a half ago. And so I know my body's gonna start to change. So I don't wanna see a scale drop.

So that's a sign for me that I wanna increase my caloric and take it falsed and I drop three or four pounds back to back days, I know that, oh, I went too low on my calories, I don't need to go that low to elicit change in my body. So that's a sign I look for. I also pay attention to when I'm lifting. This is back when I was cutting for shows a lot. When I be cutting for a show, if I've done two or three workouts and I can just for shows a lot, when I'd be cutting for a show, if I've done two or three workouts and I can just, I can feel fatigued. I'm, my strength is decreasing rapidly because I just do not have the gas and the gas tank

that's normally assigned for me that I'm probably stressing or pushing the body too far with how low my calories are. And so then I will bump my calories a little bit. But learning to pay attention to those signals versus what Justin's saying, I think it's so important because I think a lot of people are like, oh, my stomach is growling, I'm really hungry. Like, this must mean I need to eat. No, those aren't the signs.

I look more towards my performance to give me feedback and then I look at any sort of dramatic swings plus or minus. So I know I use the minus, but I'm also watching because could happen, I rarely do this this but I could over gauge over consuming and I see a big spike on the scale And you don't want to see either one yeah I would say if you start to feel weaker like really weak and tired if you start to notice hair loss if your nails Start to weaken if you start to feel excessively cold or sensitive to temperature changes, then

that might mean that you need to increase your calories a little bit. Next up is where the blazes. Opinions are experienced with nerve damage and more specifically spinal nerve damage. The pain, numbness, as a result, and potential healing and fitness in spite of it. So to some extent, you know, the current accepted medical stance is that nerve damage is irreversible for at a certain point, right? A real point for nerve damage. Yeah, at a certain point, it can't, it doesn't regenerate and then that's it. Now, what I've experienced with clients in this realm is this.

If it's not that permanent kind of nerve damage, and I've had plenty of clients come to me and say, you know, I feel numbness in my left arm, or my fingertips, or my toes, or I hurt my back, and I feel tingling, or it's, you know, easy one is like sciatic a nerve, where I, you know, someone will feel just tremendous pain down their leg or up their back and they can't even move sometimes taking days off of work. There's a multi-pronged

approach. One is the obvious one I think at least is obvious is changing and correcting recruitment patterns of the muscles so that there is no more nerve impingement or impingement in whatever area they're feeling. So for sciatica, for example, a real common one would be, I would look at their hip function. They probably had an issue firing their hips. They probably had some internal, external rotating issues at the femur. In other words, their legs don't rotate very well. And they probably have tightness in the muscles that kind of cover the sciatic nerve like the periformis.

And so what I would do with that person is I would train them to change their recruitment patterns so they move better. And then I do like deep tissue massage or something or foam rolling on the tight muscles so that we could slowly open up the area where the nervous was not so impinged. Now, once you do that, it takes still takes a little while because it's like when you hit your elbow or if you ever press on your funny bone, you got that tingling.

When you take your elbow off whatever you're pressing, it still takes a couple minutes for that feeling to come back. So it could take some time. And the second thing I do is I address inflammation. Like big time. You know, I've had, I don't know about you guys, but I've had a lot of clients who,

just because they changed their diet, would reduce pain, chronic pain, nerve pain, and their shoulder and numbness, things like that, for sure. Just from changing life. Yeah, for a lot of my clients that have changed and adjusted their diet like that, and then like the inflammation is just disappeared. Oh, it's crazy.

There's studies now that are showing that some of this is that diet can make a difference with this. I'll tell you what, we just had Max Lugavir on, and he talked about a study in 2017 examining the diet's impact on depression, and they found that it was actually you know, dietetic intervention could make a big difference with inflammation or with depression. And that's because of inflammation's role in depression and the physical you know, sense where your brain is depressed and then that makes you feel depressed and I think that inflammation was a cause of it.

And the change in the diet and the fix that, well inflammation affects your nerves as well and reducing your systemic inflammation through avoiding heavily processed foods, avoiding foods you may have intolerances to,, you know, maybe some intermittent fasting, or maybe some prolonged fasting, because that is very anti-inflammatory, anecdotally speaking. Do those, do that, and then see what happens. It makes a huge difference.

So, very similar to you, I've experienced a lot of clients who think they have nerve damage, but don't really have nerve damage. Because they have numbness going on or tingly or something like that, there are someone's, oh, something wrong with your nerves possibly.

And so a lot of times it's that and it's not like real nerve damage. Like you said, if you've got real nerve damage, nothing I could be the greatest trainer in the world. I'm not kind of potentially thinking of. I know what you're gonna do. But what I've done whenever I have clients

that complain of that, which I know've done whenever I have clients that complain of that, which I know even if they do have nerve damage, this isn't going to hurt them, is I address the nearest joint. So I go like wherever they think they have this tingling, numbness, nerve issues going on, I look towards the nearest joint and then that's where I'm going to put a lot of focus on learning and teaching them how to mobilize that. So and this is a lot of how Prime Pro

is built and designed to use. So if you're a personal trainer, and you're always wondering, like, you know, you or you have this too, because this was a common thing for me. I don't know how common it was for you guys. Like, clients get this a lot. So for me, it was the two things.

It was one is assess their diet and then get out any sort of like inflammatory type of foods that they're eating and try and eat a lot of pro inflammatory foods. And then addressing where whatever joints are nearest to where this they think they have nerve damage and helping mobilize that. And so with prime pro, we go through, you know, nine different major joints in the body and show you how to mobilize that. So and I think just them getting connected better to that area, it's amazing what ends up happening between that and the diet.

I've found relief. I've found the same, you know, as far as what people think is, you know, more of a problem than it really, you know, more detrimental than it really is where, when they understand how their joints really supposed to track, like especially with the shoulder or the knees, like a lot of times, you know, they're just out of that groove where it functions at its best.

And so, you know, the nerve can be affected by that if it's, you know, being impinged at all in the process of, you know, movement. So just teaching them and understanding like where, where it is optimal to be and posturally and then mobilize that and get them to communicate and feel their way through that process. It really helps. I can't stress this enough.

Diet makes a huge difference. Jessica had neck pain for a while and we identified the foods that cause it and it's anything that tie and sugar. When she eats a lot of sugar for two, three days in a row, she starts to get inflammation in her neck and she starts to hurt. Now she may have, and I think she does, in fact, I remember her telling me, she has an actual issue with her neck. I think she was doing the silks one time fell and so she might have a disc that's slipped or a little bit of, but that pain is not there

unless she eats in a way that's inflammatory. It gets aggravated with the inflammatory. She doesn't feel it otherwise. You know, and the same thing with me. I noticed when I start T-Bad, I start to feel stiff and it's usually in the areas that, you know, it's always typically the same areas for me as well. So diet makes a big difference, don't overlook that. There it is. Next question is from Eli Hargis 30. How to pull potential

clients off the floor to big box gym and sell them personal training best ways to work the phone to sell training? I was like, that's two different questions there. Yeah. He hacked the claw there. You got two for the price of one. Well, played sir. Yeah. So I used to teach something here. So I don't know anybody else that used to do this with their trainers is I used to teach my new trainers and this was after Justin.

So Justin didn't get this training. So he was already good before this. Yeah, I didn't need it. Okay. What I later on ended up doing, because a lot of times I would hire a trainer and this was a major challenge for them. Always, this is like the hardest thing, right?

Yeah, absolutely. It's already hard enough for trainers to adopt sales and learning the whole sales process and work on art of communication. That's already a challenging thing for a lot of trainers. Trainers, and then you ask them to go on the floor and rip them off the floor. And that's really, really tough to do

to approach somebody and try and rip them off the floor and hopes to sell them. So I would step them back and start with just like learning to approach and communicate with people the right way. And I would talk them back and start with learning to approach and communicate with people the right way. I would talk more about that. What did that first conversation that you ever approached somebody on the floor looks

like? Get out of your mind that you're trying to sell them personal training or close them because that doesn't come yet. You got to build that relationship first. Now that can be challenging and it could take some time. What I would do is I would send someone, and I used to literally hold my trainer's hands like this. So I would pick a couple of people

who I thought were potential leads for them. I've seen them working out a bunch that kind of look like they're the same weight. Their body's not changing very much. They're always doing cardio or something. And I feel like this person, or I've seen them reading a machine, not knowing what they're supposed to do.

And I would point out some, I said, go over there and talk to the lady that's on the third treadmill over the right. And just go say hi, introduce yourself as a trainer, find out a couple of things about her, and her name, and her family, maybe her age, or what she's doing here, what she does for work, just basic normal conversation stuff.

And I would send them to do that, and then it would come back and report to me. It's okay, cool, great, this is what we're gonna do now. So I want you to have this little binder and have a little binder for their merge journal and we'd write that person's name their age whatever information They're gathered and it's like something about them to remind us so maybe either either you know tall lady looks like this or wears this type of sneakers Whatever something so they can kind of remember who that person is and then we move on from that person and we go talk to somebody else Now when I've done this with somebody, with my new hires, who I used to spend the first two weeks

every single day with them, we'd start to have 50, 60 people on this list, and they would know all these little tidbits about them. Then I'd say, okay, now listen, every time you see one of these people, you've got this binder over here as a reference if you need it, but go up to them and say something something and make sure to point something out in the conversation that you have from the first time so they know that you listened to you were actively listening.

And then I would tell them to do that. And so then they walk up to that same lady who they'd see probably three or four days later and they'd say, oh, Susan, how are you doing? Oh, by the way, how's the job going? You know, how's the project that you were working on last week? I know you're saying you were really stressed with and everything like that, that you get it done in time. And I'll tell you what, you'll blow their fucking mind

that you remembered something as simple as that. And already that will start to bring down any walls they potentially could have. Now, I feel like I can tell, and I think most people that have this conversation, when people are more receptive and open to have a conversation with you, once you get that feeling of them being open and receptive,

now you can go in and say like, hey, I notice that you're always over here and you do this and you do that. What are your goals? What are you trying to do? And then you could start to ask them about what they're trying to do. And then when they open up and they share with you,

what their goals are, say, hey, I don't know if you have time, but next week at this day or with that, I do these free assessments for people. It's totally free. And what we can do is we can go over your body fat measurements, all that stuff like that. And we can talk a little bit more detail about your program and exactly what you're doing. And if there's anything that I can do to help you out, and then boom, you walk away, you do that with somebody.

Now I think as you sharpen this skill, you can learn to do that on the very first time ever walking up. And that's when you get really good as you can go walk to somebody and I could say watch, I'm going to go pull that person off the floor and I can sell them training right now. I didn't do that overnight. That was it was a practice of communication and talking to these people. But I think there's also a very systematic and trackable way to do this. And so keep keep notes. It's a very simple thing that you can do that you don't need to share with anybody else as far as like other Members on the floor, but it's a way for you to stay organized and and remember these little key points You become that trainer who walks around and talks to people on the floor all the time and builds relationships with people Watch how many people you're ripping off the floor. All those things, be enthusiastic,

be passionate, be friendly, boom. I'm done. I gotta go. I gotta teach that. See you, Justin. Have a good time, brother. Yeah. So, you know, my experience with this is, I mean, what Adam's,

I'm gonna echo a lot of what Adam said, but I wanna add a little bit. It was easier, it's easier for me. It was easier for me to train and teach trainers what to say once they had that assessment or appointment or once that person is engaging with them. That was a lot easier to teach them or at least to train them on. The hardest part of it is just walking up

and starting the conversation. That was always the most difficult Thing to get a trainer to do. It's like once they talk to you That's if that's that becomes easy at least it be people become more comfortable And then I can train you what you should say, you know, how you can present yourself how you can schedule an assessment All that stuff. It's the it's that first part is that what do I say to someone who's working out? What do I and so I used to tell this to my people all the time. You have to, first of all, you have a lot of fear and that's why it's so hard for you.

Just go up and talk to people. Now that sounds like stupid. Oh, you know, that's so dumb. So I'll give you some more, you know, some better advice. And you just heard a bunch of really good advice from Adam that was, you know, planned out and structured. But at the end of the day, just go talk to people because the more you do it, the easier it's gonna get.

You have to go out and I'll tell you something right now and the funny thing is, knowing what I know now after having my own private facility, I mean, how valuable is it that you work in a gym with a bunch of leads? Oh gosh, that's for sure. People don't even realize this. If you're a trainer and you're in a big box gym and you've got all these people working around you, you're in a gold mine, you're in a total gold mine because you could be a trainer in a private facility

and never see another person working out without a trainer or never get a walk in or any of that stuff. So you have a bunch of potential leads. First off, stop trying to sell shit right away or at least stop training, or never get a walk in or any of that stuff. So you have a bunch of potential leads. First off, stop trying to sell shit right away, or at least stop training, sell training right away. You should always be selling, but that doesn't mean you should be selling training. So your goal should be to, at first,

just talk to people, just go up and talk to people, don't worry about being awkward or whatever, just go and introduce yourself, whatever, what do you guys do in today? What's your workout look like? Oh, that looks like a great action. Doesn't matter. Just talk to people, get comfortable with that.

Then the second goal is, can I get that person to want to schedule an assessment or a consult or a free workout with me? That's really the goal when you're working the floor. Your goal is not to sell training. Now, can you sell training off the floor? Yes, I used to do it all the time, but those opportunities tend to present themselves,

but they only present themselves if I start the conversation. I could probably, honest to God, at my entire career working in fitness, I bet you it's probably less than 50 times did a sale just fall into my lap. You know what I mean? Where someone just comes up,

hey, I want to buy training. It's like, I remember when that would happen, every once in a great while, and it was like, you know, the sky opened up, and the angels were singing. It was like, that's super rare. I usually had to initiate some kind of a conversation. So practice, practice, practice.

Just go up to people, talk to them, give a shit, what you talk to them about, compliment their shoes, ask them what they think of the music, hey, what are you listening to, what are you working on right now? Just practice talking to people, and then when you get comfortable doing that,

where you feel like you could just walk the floor and just say hi to people and talk to people, then practice booking your console, and then from there, that's where you sell the train. Now, the second piece of advice is this, it is way harder to pull appointments off the floor than it is to pull them off the front desk. The front desk is easy compared to the floor,

way easier, because the initial conversations already started. They're walking in the gym, you're about to, they're about to check in, right? Scan their card. Hopefully you're the one that scans their card. So maybe talk to your manager, talk to the front desk, ask them if it's okay if you help at the front desk and scan people in, typically it won't be a problem. I'm sure they'll probably be happy that you do that.

And then when you scan their card, it's as easy as beep. Hey, John, what are you working on today, John? I'm going to do a little, you know, I'm going to do a little full body. Hey, you want me to take, I'm going to take you through, let me take you through an ab workout. I'm kind of working the floor right now, helping people out. You want me to take you through a core workout? Some people will say no. Some people will be like, oh yeah, fuck yeah, take me through an ab workout. Awesome. Boom, there's your consult right there.

Before you go out to the, before you take them out to the floor to take them on a workout, you tell them, okay, go change in the locker room, I'll meet you out here when they come out. Follow me, I'm gonna ask you some questions before I take you through a workout, so I know what exercises to put you through.

Now you ask them what their goals are, you get their name, you get their phone number, you find out all their information, whatever. Then you take them out on the workout floor, you take them through. Now you ask them what their goals are, you get their name, you get their phone number, you find out all their information, whatever, then you take them out on the workout floor, you take them through that workout. While you're taking them through that workout, you point out the benefits of what you're doing, you get them to agree with it. So do you see how when I do crunches this way, how you can really feel your abs working? Oh yeah, I can really feel that. You see how that'll make you get facial results? Absolutely. And you do that for a 20 minute workout, 30 minute workout, you ask them how much that time they have,

you make sure you respect their time. And then you say, hey, look, there's only about 10 minutes left. I know you said you need to leave by six. Here follow me, there's some more stuff I want to talk to you about. Take them back to your desk, talk to them about personal training, or ask them if they'd like to come back for another free workout and then schedule your assessment. But so the front desk is just, it's money in terms of being and then schedule your assessment. But so the front desk is just,

it's money in terms of being able to schedule. You only think the front desk is money, huh? I think so. The front desk was like, for me, I mean, here's the thing, like, I used to make announcements too. So I used to love doing this. I'd get a new trainer who I talked to him about working the front and doing this and that.

And of course, everybody's shy and has a difficult time. And then I tell them, and I have fun with it. and I'd say, I tell you what, if I get 10 new assessments in the next 30 minutes, then you have to go work the floor and talk to at least 20 people in the next hour. Is that a deal? And many times they'd be like, yeah, I'd like to see you try and get 10 assessments. No problem. I go up to the front desk, I get on the intercom, attention, members and guests.

We have free assessments and training sessions available at the front desk, I get on the intercom, attention, members and guests, we have free assessments and training sessions available at the front desk, I only have 10 available, first come first serve, I'd hang up and I'd wait and people come inside up and I'd book appointments left the right and it's like, it's not as hard as you think it is, the hard part is just making that first step and then being okay with people saying no,

like you're gonna get a bunch of nose. You know, how many times would you ever train or come back with, oh, I talked to two people, but they didn't want to be bothered. So they're afraid to talk to everybody. I think a lot of that is just because trainers put, you know, when you're first starting off, you put a lot of pressure on yourself to go over there and say the right thing.

It's like the pickup line thing. It's like, what do I say? Like, dude, we just talked about, someone asked about how picking up somebody on the gym. Picking up a girl in the gym is no different than picking up a client. You know what do I say? Like, dude, we just talked about, someone asked about how picking up somebody on the gym. Picking up a girl in the gym is no different than picking up a client. You know what I'm saying? It's like the same rules apply.

It's like, don't go over there and say some stupid line or say some cheesy ass like trainer line just to get them to buy. Like, just go talk to people. Now, I love to, I use the front desk very, very similar to south. So I think those tactics were, I had as much, if not more success, though, from just ripping from the floor.

And I would like, I would scan somebody in, I would see who they were, their name, I thought that, say hi to them, make, you know, oh, have a great workout, then off, let them do their thing. And I would watch them when they work out and kind of pay attention to what they're doing. I can really look at somebody's patterns. Like, what do they go warm up?

Do they get on a treadmill? Do they do stretching stuff? Do they go gravitate right to the machines? Do they go to the same comfortable machines that everybody always does? Do they, are they doing their form right? Do they have, I'll watch this stuff. I love to people watch anyways,

and you're in a gym anyways, like a big fish bowl. And so I would sit there and watch a member go, their first half of their workout and just try and piece together What are they trying to do? You know, what are they trying to accomplish? Then from there I go, okay, well, I see that she's obviously doing all these ab machine exercises and she's Bust in her tail on card if she's probably trying to loosen way she probably wants abs and everything that so I know in the back of my head That so then I'm just gonna go start conversation once I get her talking conversation I might in conversation just nicely slide in there,

like, oh, yes, what are you doing? Goal-wise that when she says it, like, oh, yeah, man, it's crazy. You know, a lot of people, they do a lot of the machine app exercises to get abs. It's one of the worst ways to do that. You know, and then I'll just keep talking. But I dropped something that I know that she fucking did.

And was probably trying to do that, which would instantly, I know for sure, if I just do it naturally in conversation, not like I'm talking about her, I'm talking about people in general. A lot of people, when they work out, and they want to see their abs, they tend to do like a bunch of machine exercises.

There's so many better things that you can do in order to see your abs. And then I'll just keep going in conversation. And then I know that I've peaked her interest because I know she was just doing those things, and it's kind of like a takeaway close. It's kind of like, okay, well yeah, good to see you, and then I'll walk away.

And if she didn't ask, and then my challenge myself, like I need to keep throwing my fishing line out there until she bites on something and asks me a question. My desire to come, my goal is to go over, meet this person, talk to him, and get them to ask me a question. Once I get you to ask me a question, now I can come up, turn around and offer a free hour with me.

Now they've invited it. Yeah. And so your goal is not to get over there and to push something on them. Your goal is to get them to ask you something that you have an answer to. And so I would use information that I've gathered by watching them work out to put things out there, knowing that she's probably gonna go Well, what exercises are better for your abs in it? You mean the machines? I shouldn't be doing the machines like oh Well, yeah, no, there's a lot of things that are very important before you just start going ahead and using the admission

In fact, you know what Susan next Friday I have these hours or the boss lets me do a free Assessments on our members and help them out with things. You know, would you like to do that? And see if she says no. Right, right, right. The second part of the question was best ways to work the phone to sell training. Good luck selling training over the phone. That's going to be very difficult to do.

Try to schedule free consults, free assessments, or free personal training sessions over the phone. That's really the only way to go. Selling training over the phone, I've definitely done it, but it's so difficult to sell anything over the phone, especially personal training because, unless that person's worked with you and seen you and already had an assessment with you, people don't typically wanna buy or hire a trainer,

they haven't met yet. If somebody, I used to get these calls, this would go through me for sure as the fitness manager. All these calls, if someone's inquiring about training, I would never sell training on the phone. Ever. If someone asked me for personal training on the phone, I'd say, you know, sir, or a man that's impossible for me to tell you exactly what you need. And so what I'd like to do with you is I'd like to invite you down for free, spend some time with me. Let me fully assess you, let's go over your goals. I need to know how you've been eating in the past,

the way you've exercised is, I need to see the way you move. Once I see all that, then I can better tell you exactly what kind of program is best for you. So again, take away clothes, don't try and sell training on the phone, no matter what, I don't care how good of a trainer you are. If you haven't seen that person, you really don't fully note that person needs. Even if they're calling saying, I just want to buy some training, how much of the price is, I'm still going to tell you, like, well, listen, it depends on what you need.

And what I'd love to do is spend some time with you and give you a free hour of mind. And together, we can figure out exactly what you need. And I'll give you a program that's perfect for you. Isn't that crazy? Works very well actually we got a message from I don't remember the guy's name I can't find it from a I think he's a fitness manager from a gold gem and he says that his whole staff. Oh what a cool what a great that was an email if you can find it dude I do have it. I have it right here. It was an email that was sent to Ann. And she's instructed to send over reviews and things like that when people say

some really nice things. And so the guy's name was Peter. I won't say his last name, because he doesn't want people knowing. But he's a gold gym either owner or fitness manager. He says, just wanted to let you guys know that all of my trainers at Golds are listening to at least two of your episodes a week.

I listen and read everything you pump out. And we discuss what they've learned and how they implement it in every Friday, as well as talking about what worked and didn't work from the previous week. You guys are an invaluable resource for me and my trainers. We're about to double our best month ever and we're just half past halfway through the month. Isn't that great? It gives me

goosebumps. You're pushing their knowledge base, their sales skills and people skills. They're thinking critically about training, focusing on client retention and taking a thoughtful approach to work out design and implementation. They pull me every pull me aside every day to let me know something new they've learned. You've created subscribers for life. Dude, that's so rad and tell you what Peter, I don't know where you're at. I would love to find out where you're at because if wherever in your city or in your town, it's a 714 area code, Doug. I don't know if you know where that's at. That's what his number is on here.

If you're, if we're ever in your area, I would love to come by, say hi, do maybe a talk with all of your trainers. Oh, I would love it. On our dime for sure. And hi, Southern kill. Oh shit. Well, we go down to the LA area all the time.

So I tell you what, Peter, stay in touch with one of us boys. It's good. This is our, I mean, that's like our total wheelhouse, right? So when I hear that we're impacting, you know, our industry, at least the industry, the way that we used to be in it, feels good. It feels really good, man. Super awesome to be here.

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