Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 738: Training & Diet for Injury Recovery, Healing Cancer & Other Deadly Diseases, Weird Things That Happen in a Gym & MORE

Episode Date: March 30, 2018

Kimera-Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Kimera Koffee (kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about Adam's programming and nutrition for recovery, the weirdest thing they’ve ever seen someone do in a gym, the greatest life lesson they have taken from each other and their thoughts on natural healing. Instantly your life can revolve around the kid. The guys show their sensitive side. (4:11) The perfect storm of cluster fuck in my mouth. Justin shares and explains the cosmetic dental work he got done. (10:48) Spartan Up! Adam shares his experience cheering on his girl at this past weekend’s Spartan Race. (19:40) The comfort and ease of modern life. Sal reflects on his talk, the reasoning behind why obstacle racing is so popular and the need for a challenge in our lives. (29:00) Guys share their personal hacks using Organifi products. (36:47) Elon Musk ghosts Facebook! Tesla CEO Elon Musk tweets why he doesn't like Facebook. (40:52) The guys talk Men’s Wearhouse and old school 80’s commercials. (43:37) Justin shares the story of his first encounter with his neighbor and the bad impression/taste still in his mouth. (47:15) Quah question #1 – How is Adam programming and nutrition for his recovery? (51:43) Quah question #2 – What is the weirdest thing they’ve ever seen someone do in a gym? (1:09:38) Quah question #3 – What is the greatest life lesson they have taken from each other? (1:21:10) Quah question #4 – What are your thoughts on natural healing? (1:33:56) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Vuori Clothing Dr. Tim Rauch Oral health: A window to your overall health Documentary: Inside obstacle course racing phenomenon Organifi **Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off** Tesla CEO Elon Musk tweets why he doesn't like Facebook Men's Wearhouse Founder George Zimmer Reveals 'Lifetime Passion' for Marijuana Ousted Founder of Men's Wearhouse Watches His Old Company Struggle Joovv Sun Lighten **FREE Shipping** Immunity over inability: The spontaneous regression of cancer The placebo effect: illness and interpersonal healing People Mentioned: ♛Rey Mysterio❔ (@reymysterio)  Twitter Matthew Vincent (@ihviiimattvincent)  Instagram Tim Rauch (@timthedentist)  Instagram Joe De Sena (@realJoeDesena) Twitter Elon Musk (@elonmusk)  Instagram Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck)  Instagram Wim Hof (@iceman_hof)  Instagram You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS HIIT, an expertly programmed and phased High Intensity Interval Training program designed to maximize fat burn and improve conditioning. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, M. By the way, we break this all down for you in our show notes. If you go to mind.media.com, go on the podcast tab. Go to the show notes. It shows you like minute by minute or like, you know, whatever, what we're talking about, okay? So here's what we talk about in the first 47 minutes. Adam taps into his nurturing side. Oh, very, very sweet.

We also talk about Justin's new grill. Oh yeah. Oh, he's very sweet. We also talk about Justin's new grill. Oh, yeah. Oh, he's so hot. Rock and a kiss him. We talk about Adam's Spartan weekend and my speech for the athletes at the Spartan race. A rou. That was good times.

We talk about Justin's Organifi Green Juice and Shake because he can't eat that much because his teeth are kind of sore. Organifi is one of our sponsors. By the way, if you go to organifyshop.com, enter the code Mind Pump, you will get a discount. Oh, and we also talk about Adam using organified probiotics whenever he eats five guys burgers.

Helps him out, poop himself. We talk about, Elon Musk deleting his Facebook account. What? Good time to buy Facebook, that should. Take that Zuckerberg down. Right. And then we talk about the time some-

Nerd fight. We got a third fight. Nerd fight. We know by the time some assholes roof ran into Justin's truck. Yeah. Was that- Come on guy, I didn't even see it. You know me.

Jerk. We also mentioned Viori Close. We are sponsored by Viori. If you go to VioriClothing, that's V-U-O-R-I clothing.com, forward slash mind pump. You get a full 25% off your entire order. Fire. Then we get into the questions.

The first question was about Adam's programming and planning and his nutrition for recovery. He has a Achilles tear that is healing from. He had his hormones that were down a little bit and he's doing a full protocol. He's kind of listening to his body, but he goes into detail. Part of that protocol was using the Juve Red Light.

If you go to Juve.jouvv.com, forward slash mind pump, you get a discount. And the other thing he was using was infrared sauna. The best one, of course, is sun lighten. If you go to sunlighten.com, floor slash mine pump, you'll get free shipping. That's like $600. I just plug in these guys. I'm hoping if I plug them enough, they'll give me one for my house.

Exactly. The next question was, what is the weirdest thing we've ever seen someone do in the gym? These stories get crazy. You won't believe that. A lot of weird shit. Crazy stuff. A lot. someone do in the gym, the stories get crazy. You won't believe that. There's been a lot of weird shit. Crazy stuff. A lot.

Next question was, what's the greatest life lesson each of us have learned from each other? I love learning from Justin and Adam and Doug. And I told you, I love learning from you. Thank you. I was fishing for that. Yeah. And finally, the last question.

Since we advocate such a holistic approach towards fitness, what are our thoughts on like natural healing? I guess that means when your body just heals itself or when you will, your body to get better, is that quackery? Is that science? What is our opinion? Find out in this episode.

Also, we're nearing the end of the month. This month's promotion ends when the month is over. So, if you wanna take advantage of our promotion, which is free access to our awesome forum. With you wanna get it in our forum. All you gotta do is enroll in a Maps bundle. You gotta do it now. You gotta do it now before the month is over. Again, free access to our form, if you're in rolling any maps bundle, bundles

are when we combine two or more maps programs together for a particular goal, our most popular one being our super bundle, which is one year of exercise programming, for more information on those bundles and our individual maps fitness programs go to mindpumpmedia.com I came in here and on Friday or Saturday was that you're thinking noise? I came in here on Brain is processing I think it was Friday or Saturday, I don't remember what fucking day it was, but Taylor isn't here recording

So that's what your mic is off. And here? Yeah. He was like talking on the mic. Yeah. Him and his home girl, they've been working on this little project for a while now. I don't ask a lot of, you know, I don't ask Mysterio a lot of questions. Just kind of Mysterio added to get and do his thing.

When you say Mysterio, he sounds like a Mexican wrestler. You know the math. It's why it fits so perfectly, Mysterio, he sounds like a Mexican wrestler. You know what the math is? It's why it fits so perfectly. Mysterio. Speaking of which, I watched Coco this weekend, the cartoon. It's great. It's really good, you watch it? Yeah, I've seen, I watched that when I was in the theaters.

Really? You know what I hate about cartoons nowadays? I get emotional. Oh yeah. They're so powerful. No, it's because I have kids. So now when I see a kid. Well, they make them tragic now. Like, the pics are kind of like, like, playing because I have kids. Yeah. So now when I see a kid. Well, they make them tragic now.

Like, the pics are kind of like, like, getting on the formula. They play it on the kids. Yeah. They're like, oh, everybody die. So now we're gonna like, I never got emotional watching a cartoon ever until I had kids.

First time it happened, finding Nemo. He loses his son, son, like, the cat, and I'm like, watching the dad go after son. It's tragic. My son was only one or two, and I'm like watching the dad go after son tragic My son was only one or two and I'm looking at my boy like what if what if my loss my son Yeah, yeah, and then I'll send him like it makes us all pain Yeah, and then I'm watching Coco and the fucking you know the kid goes to the land of the dead and then they show the dad

Singing to his little girl and a little girl sitting sitting on the edge of the bed And he has to leave his little girl. Yeah, and I'm just like I know that's so they just do that I'm gonna do that. That's this cartoon character had to speak in a baby I went and saw this weekend. I was out of town to go. Yeah, I saw you holding a baby. Yeah, you know you look good You look that's the good holding a business. Does it fit me? Yeah, you look really nice in your arms holding a baby Oh, goodness, and you had a smile on your face. Yeah, a little bit Yeah, if you had a smile on your face, that was good. It is, I was a cool kid. It is a little surreal for me with my best friend.

Like these are my, these go back, we go out to elementary school, right? So these are my two tight, tight friends that have all my friends. They're both, they're both were pregnant. So his, my other buddy's wife is still, she's, I think she's like four or five months deep and then he just had his. So it's his first born. It's a boy, pressed in gorgeous baby. It's, it's, it's, so seeing them have kids because we were always together as, I mean,

we were kids together and we always talked about like not settling down and getting married till way later in life, not like we all, what, that trips me out that were 37 and 36. And just now everyone's starting to have kids, like we made that pack early on in life. Cause I think a lot of it came from, I mean, they were with me during the early years with my dysfunctional family and so like that. So it's obvious where mine came from.

You know, I was like, uh, I'm not fucking settled down again very free. I ain't signed enough for you this shit. Now did it change him him now that he has a I mean soon right he just had the baby, but is it was you different at all or what do you say? You know it he's definitely it's this It's I'm gonna use cute for a lack of a better word But it's it's cute to see it his personality with his boy. He's just trying.

You know what I'm saying? And you can tell he doesn't know what the fuck he's doing, right? And he's done all the classes and he read the books and he's done all that. But I'm sure you guys will test. You don't know until it's there, right? And so watching him kind of like, I was holding the baby and felt him shit. Oh boy, he just shit dude. It's your ego dad. You know, sitting back over to him. Yeah, so watching him like do that for the first time. Now I was the oldest.

So I had and I have two younger siblings. Change diapers. Oh, all that, you know, send me I have a 10 and a 15 year gap between the two of them. So I very much so was used to having babies and carrying babies and changing diapers and doing all that. So it was funny because they were kind of, or Katrina and somebody else were kind of teasing me and like, I don't know what you guys are talking about. This is why part of why I'm not a father's, I've already felt like I've done a lot of this stuff

already, like I could, I can swaddle the baby real quick if you need me to, I can burp him if you need me to. I could wipe his ass if you need to. I just don't want to do any of that shit. That's all, but I remember when my, because my son's my oldest one, he was born and you treat this new born like they're made out of glass. Oh yeah.

So you're like, oh my god, don't move them. Especially leaving the hospital. Yeah, and then, but then the nurse takes your baby and the nurse scoops it up like a football. Yeah, and they're like when they swing the baby around like whoa you're gonna break them Yeah, but then they're like no, no, they're fine. Yeah, they're way the way more resilient Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz I would move them so slowly like Nobody makes yeah Don't don't don't break the baby. Yeah, anyway. Yeah, you look good with the baby, dude. Thank you, man. I could see your heart

Your heart's ready. Oh God. Who knows? No thanks. Who who knows? I don't know if I you see you see to like instantly the life begins to revolve around the kid like my we even we have nothing scheduled on the calendar for all of us Friends to get together because everyone knows it like well fuck Justin's gonna have a kid right now his whole life is changing Yep, you know I'm saying so there is a part of me that's kind of sad too. I'm like, ah fuck you. Just go over there, visit. It's the progression, man. Over there, bring food, visit a little bit, hang out with the baby.

I think we're going to create a relationship with that little boy too. Right, right. Oh yeah, no. I already gave him his first outfit and gift. We came from Uncle Adam for sure. So I'm just getting Viori. Do they have Viori baby gear? They should.

No, I hooked him up with Steve. I'm off right. Justin is a diehard warriors fan like I am. So I got him the full Katie get up with the shirt, the shorts and the shoes that match and everything. So that's what I was. There's no indoctrination. Speaking of Viori, did you see our boy?

So Matt Vincenzoontown, he flew in on Friday. I love that guy. So do I. And he was hitting Justin and I up to hang out. He doesn't like Sal that much. And so he was hitting Justin and I up to hang out this weekend. Like the Sal that much. And so he was hitting Justin and I up to hang out this weekend. Like the cool kids, yeah.

He likes the cool kids. I want to do cool stuff. And so we're not scheduled to see him till tomorrow. And I said, oh, dude, we'll come down and just say what's up or there's a great coffee shop across the street from us and we're recording. You can use a facility. So he showed up today.

And he was rocking the same hoodie as you rock. I mean, it's a different color, but he had the- There's one of the gray and black of Viori. I'm like, oh, look at you. On the Viori swag down on the Viori game. Guy on in his own clothing line. He's still buying from Viori. It's good shit. No, that's gonna say something. Right, right. That's what I say. That's good shit. Look nice on him, too. No, no, it's a sharp fit. Adam, you, uh, Justin, excuse me, you look, um, really handsome. Hey, thanks. Like really handsome. More handsome than before. I would like stop you if you're lying.

I don't mean, but I'm gonna own it. Dude, you got to tell everybody what happened this weekend. Dude, so Friday, I, um, I basically took off after we were, we had like a scheduled recording that that didn't work out, but I went to go actually visit my friend from high school. I connected with this guy. I was at the gym and one of my friends, I was like,

dude, did you know Tim, he's a dentist. Like I had been looking for a dentist to kind of do some work for me because what I need done is super expensive. This was a while back when you first met him, right? Yeah, a while back. And I'd been chopping it up with him and didn't expensive. This was a while back when you first met him, right? Yeah, a while back. And I'd been chopping it up with him and didn't even know he was a dentist.

And I guess he's like one of the best dentists in the Bay Area. And he's all over the place, tuned big commercials. And anyway, he's really putting himself out there. But he's really honed in and mastered his craft on this whole like cosmetic dentistry. And so what I need done, it sucks,

because there's no insurance I have as covers any of this shit. And it's like I really needed done, because my teeth were grinded down to nothing, but gangily. And this is because you grind your teeth when you sleep? Grinded my teeth and then the acid erosion. It was this perfect storm of this cluster fuck

in my mouth, right? So that's a good movie. By the way, that's a good movie. Yeah, anyway, continue. Yeah, it was a good movie. But yeah, so I clusterfuck in my mouth. It was, yeah, I'm Googling right now. It's a fun, yeah, it's a fun movie to watch.

Yeah, so I basically was, I was like, oh shit, you're a dentist, dude, we gotta do something. And so he, we gotta do something. You're gonna I hit your art and I have fucked up. I have things. I have a podcast. You know what I match me in heaven Help me bro. And so I went to his his office and so we worked it out So I was able to go and he did my my upper teeth and It was funny, man. So what does that have no idea what to expect? So you got veneers.

You got veneers. So what's the deal? What do they do first? So what they do is so basically they have to grind down like your existing teeth. Right? Grind it. They grind it down.

With what? Like trills. Oh shit. Yeah, they got a bunch of different types of trills. You're a wake. I was a wake, but I. I was awake, but I- He's a kyte, right? Yeah.

Awesome. And only because I requested it, like I actually asked him ahead of time, like, can I talk about this on the show? Because I was like, dude, you're giving me like nitrous, you know what I mean? And so he's like, yeah, cool. I'll hook you up, whatever. I'll hook you up.

And so you know, you wear this like a piece over your nose and you're breathing this like the whole time. What does it feel like? It felt like, I just felt calm and just chill. And I was just like loving it. But if I didn't have that, it would probably have been super uncomfortable. So what's the grinding, oh, you can feel it.

They're just drilling the whole time. And you see like bits of teeth, like sparks and chill. Sparks flying out of your mouth. Dude, I was like sitting in the chair. I was like sparks and sheeps. Parkes, why not, you're about to. Dude, I was like, see the good of the chair. I was like, if I didn't have all the amenities of modern technology, it would have been like medieval torture. You know, like people just like hovering over you, like making jokes, like, ah, ah, this and that.

Well, teeth, bits of teeth of flying is flying the back of your throat, like it's fucked up. So when they, when they grind them, and they just grind them straight up, or do they have to shape them in a bowl? Well, they're shaping them and basically molding it to where they think just like, yeah, so they just like, attach this piece over it.

Were you able to look at your teeth before they put them on? So you're not like, so he's like, I don't know, one of my friends had it done and he kind of forewarned me, he's like, don't look at your face. Don't look at it like, mid process, right? So I was like, really curious and me is like, don't look at your face. Don't look at it like mid-process, right? So I was like really curious and I was like,

I can't help it, dude. I have to. So he took a break and he went in the other, you know, to visit on one of his other patients and so I got my phone out and I was just like, I look around, I grab my phone and I'm looking at myself through like, you know, the photo and turning on myself and I look around, I grab my phone, and I'm looking at myself through the photo and turning on myself. I look, I was like, oh my God, look, I got a hillbilly.

What? It was like this gangily, like Gus Chiggins looking fucking face, dude, just, like you've been chewing on rocks all day. Exactly, exactly, it was so freaky. Did you take a picture of it? No. Oh, I can't, dude. I couldn't let that live.

Like, somebody would have mined that on Google, and then that would be my face forever. You know, oh, it was terrifying. It was a fucking terrifying look. Oh, man. So now you got the new teeth, does it, like, is it weird eating, and you sound the same? Yeah, no, I was actually worried about that,

and we were joking about it. All of a sudden, I'm gonna get this list, but I the same? Yeah, no, I was actually worried about that. We were joking about it. All of a sudden I'm gonna get this list, but I'm gonna... Oh, shit. Yeah, you're sure you didn't fucked up teeth for a list. I don't know what you was worse, dude, you know what I'm saying? Give me the bad teeth back. Yeah, yeah. So these are actually more, like it's the temporary,

so it doesn't have the spacing between, so it has messed up my, I don't know, saying certain words a little bit, but not quite. Like when I go back and get the permanent done, it'll be just like regular. But when I eat it sensitive, it dude. Oh, really? Yeah, because they were drilling bits of teeth out

the whole time for like two hours. So my face was sore as hell. I would say probably even punched in the mouth all day long, right? Yeah, I was all swollen. My upper lip and everything was like swollen like for the first night and then the second day. I think you imagine if you had swollen lips and you had a lip. Just making duck faces. Yes, you want to give it to me? They were swollen lips and a lip.

Guys, I like the new look. Do you think you did good with my teeth? I look awesome, don't I? Yeah, so, but it's fine. It's fine with it all. Yeah, but it all kind of like the swelling went down all that. Do you feel, do you feel a difference?

Like I remember, because I had, you got to feel more comfortable. I had a fucked up grill and I had a crooked smile forever, you know, because of it. And, you know, it was a trip feeling my facial expressions start to change now that I knew that I had good teeth. So when you know your teeth are good, you start to even talk differently.

And that's, it's crazy, man. Like, even just having like a resting face, you know, where like I used to just like keep my mouth super closed. Like, I'll leave it kind of open because my teeth actually like hang down now. Like they're ground so far down that I like you couldn't even see them. Like it looked like I was all almost all gums. Yeah. Well don't lose the smolder. I like the smolder, you know what I mean? What's the smolder?

I like the serious face of my face. Yeah, I got resting asshole face. Yeah, a lot of people, people, they're a little intimidated. But yeah, so I'm trying to lighten it up. But yeah, I am noticing that a lot, like I'll smile more. I'll be, you know, in a little better spirit just because of, like, it's like you're showing your teeth. It's weird.

Changes your mood. Have you seen family and stuff yet? Yeah. Okay, so they've all seen. Yeah, so they're super stoked. And the thing is, what I love about what Tim did is, like, it looks like my teeth, like I was born with, you know, it's not like I'm getting these Hollywood chompers,

you know, like, it looks totally natural. Yeah. You would never know. If you did know. Except for the things, the things don't look natural. Well, I had to add those. I got inspired by Black Panther. I was a little disappointed in the, no platinum

or no fucking time in there I was like come on dude, you're already putting the real style anymore dude now. It's rainbow bro That's the what's that? Yeah, the rapper you showed me yeah, yeah, I said Nine or what's that count him? Yeah, let's not count him is like the new trend or whatever. Yeah Yeah, so I mean overall I'm super pumped on what he did give your boy a plug dude He sounded he did a great job. Well, yeah, Dr. Tim Rao. So he's over in holster But yeah, he has just just look up his Instagram Tim the dentist and And then you can check out all his work like he has lots of before and afters of like some people that had like way more

And Arleigh looking teeth than me and I was was like, wow, man, he just does, he does masterful work, man. It's funny because healthy teeth are considered such an important thing for attractiveness because in the past, for a long time, if you had bad teeth that many times meant death, like many times it could mean that you didn't survive or you die, like if you had an infection in your mouth and you're, you know,

5,000 years ago, you're fucked. You're probably not going to make it. Or if you lost your teeth, what are you going to eat? You know, you just got to gum everything. Yeah, your friends have to chew your food for you. Like a baby bird. So that's why we consider it so attractive because it's like, that's a, that's a, but I think if I'm not mistaken anthropologists say that that was a major cause of death in ancient times or pre-stork times Not pre-stork, but ancient times where it was it was teeth like if your teeth were able to stay healthy. Yeah, so very interesting Adam I want to ask you about I saw Katrina did Yeah, so I went up there to

Tarou And I went and looked at the obstacles and stuff and then I forgot she was gonna Do it and I saw her pictures on Instagram. So yeah, I wish she healthy because she was had a cold when she wasn't She's still a little sick. You'll see her today. She's actually coming in here in a little bit to sit in the sauna And she's taking the day off of work again. She's had she got the same thing you had. I mean, it's nasty Oh, it's a nasty girl. Yeah, she's normally rebounds really quick. So the fact that she even ran in it, I thought she was crazy, but she did support her brother.

Like she's really been trying to get her whole family, like, you know, together on this. They're all racing in Hawaii at the end of this year. A Spartan? Yes. Oh wow. That's a big one of the big ones. And so this was just a,

what they call a sprint, which is like a shorter one, it's only five miles long. But a couple, I learned a lot of things this time because the other times we've been down there, we kind of like, spectated, we bullshit it, kind of whatever. This time I had to be there like I was racing

because they were racing. So I had to get everything and wait, we were there super early, like six o'clock in the morning. I was there all afternoon and watched a bunch of other people race and then them take off. And then I try to get some photos of them why they were going. I got some really cool photos of Katrina and her and then them take off. And then I try to get some photos of them while they are going. I get some really cool photos of Katrina and her brother

while they are racing. But notice a lot of things, right? So one of the things I notice, it's kind of funny to watch, and I'm gonna just jab right now, but I totally have a lot of respect for the race and everything like that, is the 105 pound, five foot five guy.

Like it's the Spartan race is like made for you. Oh yeah, yeah. Like it is made for you. The more strength to weight ratio, you have the better. And you know, like you walk so think of it this way. So like when you're at, like you go to like a body building convention, all the big buff guys are like the guys,

you know what I'm saying? That are walking around like Jeff Chestall puffed out because they're the shit because you're the big buff guy. Those are the guys I can't do half. Right, right. At the Spartan race, there big buff guy. Those are the guys I can't do half right at this part right now. There's no that you see this little little guy hopping around a little little little little rip dugs you know I'm saying like little dugs like kind of skipping around and like shaking their arms out you know kind of getting ready

like this like you know like to like this is this is my game right here you know you can just see that you know eyeballing like the big dudes and shit so oh you're not gonna do it yeah yeah you yeah, you see, so it definitely, it bodes well to be like a smaller framed lightweight guy that can run in these events. So it's kind of cool to see that that, I don't know, that it's different. That's like nothing else that I can compare to

or I've ever seen as far as like that type of athlete dominating. Yeah. And then I, they had, I didn't realize how many obstacles they have for how short of a run it is. So I've done like muddy, buddy, it's still gnarly. Yes, so they do. So it's only five miles, right? But they 21 obstacles.

That's a lot of obstacles for only five miles. You think, I mean, you don't, you maybe put a one mile stretch at one time and then you're doing an obstacle. And the obstacles for the most part, the ones that I watched out of the 21, I watched about, I don't know, 10 of them. I got to see Katrina and her brother go through them. Some of them are fucking challenging. And it's 30 burpees every time you don't finish. So there's 21 obstacles.

You have potential of doing a fuck ton of burpees, dude. Nobody wants to do that many burpees, right? So there's 600 burpees. Yes. Who the fuck would want to be 600 burpeespees, right? So there's like 600 burpees. Yes. Who the fuck would want to do 600 burpees in a day? Like a whole day and that's how I would never want to do that many burpees. So you definitely are motivated to do every obstacle

and there's some of them that are really, really challenging for people. And when you first start the race, this is really mean too. I got a lot of laugh drive. I'm fucking standing around injured watching everything. So I'm just kind of people watching. And before you start the race, they have this little like four foot wall. You hop over the wall and you get into the race gate.

You know, it's like the race gate where everyone feeds into this race gate about a couple hundred people might most fit in it. And then they take off and they do their whole like their little speech and everything. They go off and they run. Well, there's speech and everything. They go off and they run. Well, there's like this little wall that you got to climb over it. And I was watching a lot of people struggle. You know, the first long and all I can think was, fuck you. Do a lot of burpees ahead of you.

To the name burpees and they video it, dude. So it's like legit. There's judges and they're videoing the burpees. Like you got to do your burpees before you move on for the rest of the race. Watch some guys try and flip a tire. Probably the most challenging obstacle bar none was the tire flip for men.

And I was a little surprised at that, but I guess it makes sense because again, that would be a big guy would probably be there. It is, right? It's a 400 pound tire that you got a tire flip two times, and that's like a deadlift. And the guys that were kicking ass in this race, they weren't, you could tell,

they weren't like major deadmifters, you know what I'm saying? So seeing that it was pretty interesting to watch them like blaze through the first half, and then they get to this portion of the flip the tire, and then watching them get frustrated. Well they must, yeah, they must like balance that out as far as skill, like so they take into account like somebody that's bigger.

Like let's give them something here where they're gonna do well with this versus like always having climbing things to do. Right, now this is what I like about sport. I think they do a good job of that, right? I mean, they had the Atlas Stone carry. So they got a carry, they had a carry and Atlas Stone back and forth and do burpees in between.

I think they do a good job of trying to make them a good move on them. Yeah, then you had to pull drag this sled with two, I think 50 or 100 pounds sandbags in it across the mud and back. There's definitely some stuff that you had to do that required you to be strong to you couldn't just be this wiry marathon runner.

Because I mean, when you look at it five miles and you're like, dude, if you're a really good marathon runner, you know, or even triathlete, right? You're gonna blaze through this pretty quick compared to people, but they definitely do a handful of obstacles where. It's a great environment too. Yeah, you know, well, that's another thing

I really like about. I'm sitting here, you know, making fun of people so I've had that all out of good fun, but everybody is super supportive. Dude, it's a great, very, very supportive. It's a great community of people. Everybody having a lot of fun. There's people out dance.

Man, just blown away by how many people go to these things. I mean, I've watched it and they're only going to get bigger. Dude, this is exploding. In the last three years, this thing has just in our time of having a mind pump. I remember the first one I was introduced to and seeing this one out in the in fucking nowhere, out in the middle of nowhere, just the line of cars coming in to go to these things. And they're but say every 15 minutes, a group of like 100 to 300

people are taking off from like 7 a.m. all the way till noon. So do the math on that. Yeah. It's a it's a reaction. It's they're they're going to keep getting bigger as and more popular as our lives get more more profitable. That's a majority of what I saw. Now mind you, they have it sectioned off, right? So if you're a like a big green fill, if you're a pro, you take off. Right. And if you're if you're competing to actually because top 10 in each class, that that qualifies you for the next big race, right? If you want to get into it. And then you have and if you're competing to actually, because top 10 in each class, that qualifies you for the next big race, right? If you wanna get into it. And then you have like,

we can warriors like Katrina and Lair, where they weren't trying to like, hardcore compete. They're the majority though. You can just see it. You can just see groups of like computer nerds and stuff like that. That's all there is.

That's why it's so big, you know? Like we're crossfit blew up and everything is just like, not that accessible for like everybody, right? Especially to compete and even like make their way into the game's portion of it. Whereas this is like, everybody can compete. Obviously, there's an elite group that, you know, dominates the course that you pay attention to.

But, you know, everybody can give it a shot. And I'm not gonna lie, there's a part of me that after watching it firsthand, and literally like running alongside Katrina and Larry and photo-eum, so that makes me want to just see me go at it. Like, yeah. Cause I'm looking at all the obstacles and I'm like, okay, 20 year old me blazes through this.

No problem. None of these things, they did have a seven foot wall, which a lot of people had a hard time with. Cause it's a seven foot wall full of mud and she's like, that is not easy just to scale over. So there's a couple obstacles I looked at and I'm like, okay, no, no, I might. Now do they help each other over?

So you technically can't, so there's certain things they allow you to kind of help out and other things they want. For example, if you're a dude and you're trying to do the 400 tire flip, your boy can't come over and help deadlift it with you and get it flipped over. That's not okay. Like you gotta do it. If you can't do it and help deadlift it with you and get it flipped over. That's not okay.

Like you got to do it. If you can't do it, then you go do your burpees. But I did see them allowing people to help each other over some of these like seven-foot walls and stuff. Yeah. I think that's encouraged. Yeah. I think they do encourage you to do those types of obstacles.

But then there's like the rings and obviously things like that you can't or dragging your sled. I couldn't come over and help pull the sled for you or carry the atlas ball for you. Like those things they require you to do it on your own. Yeah, maybe we'll get out there at one of these times. Well, you defected, it was broken up by that many obstacles already made it more because I am not, you're just not gonna get me to go do a marathon.

No, no, no, no. It's all endurance based, no thing. I have no desire and even if it's not a full marathon, a half marathon, it doesn't matter. Like I have no desire to go run for five, 10, 15, or 20 miles straight. Just run. And I get the people that love that, no more power to you, but for me, it's just not appealing.

I'm definitely more a strength guy. And so realizing that they have that many obstacles in that short of a race, that was more appealing to me. I'm like, oh, fuck 21 obstacles in five miles. That means I'm probably never running more than a quarter mile. No, this is a doing so. This is a 100% a reaction to just modern, comfortable lifestyle.

This is what I talked about when I was gonna ask you about how that went like, is you spoke? Yeah, I've realized these guys. So they invited me to come do a talk at the athlete dinner. So athlete dinner, the athletes can pay, and then they have special guests or whatever that come. And it's a group of, depending on the size of the show, so I think this is a smaller one

or whatever, so there's like 100, something people in there. And they asked me to talk, and at first I thought to myself, what am I gonna talk about? You know, am I gonna talk about fitness and stuff? That doesn't really seem appropriate. So instead I talked about, you know, the reasoning behind why obstacle course racing in Spartan in particular

is so popular and the reason why people actually do it. And you know, I think it definitely resonated. And you can see that these races in this kind of activity is a complete reaction to the comfort of an ease of modern life. You know, it's funny. Humans we are wired to seek out challenge, or at least to find meaning in life through challenge.

And when challenge is taken away from us and taken away from us and taken away from us, it's almost like we have to create it. And we either create it by making ourselves anxious and stressed over trivial things or depressed over, you know how many people are depressed in modern Western societies, or anxious and stressed out more than ever?

But we have way more than we've ever had before. Collectively, we have way more. More people have a roof over the heads, food is not an issue. Right, bombs have cell phones now. Yeah, obesity is more of an issue than starvation. People have more than one pair of pants to wear, one pair of shoes and one shirt.

People have so many clothes that I know, I know a lot of people have clothes in their clothes and they probably never even worn. And so it's like we need to feel that challenge and so that's kind of what I talked about. And I gave some examples in my talk. And one of the things I talked about was Superman, which I thought was very fascinating.

I think I talked about this before on the show on how the comic book Superman, you know, when Superman was first, you know, when they first came up with the idea of Superman, he was this alien with superpowers, could jump over buildings, run faster than a train, stop bullets, basically just the most awesome, you know, impenetrable.

With no flaw, super hero ever. Yeah, it was super boy scout, made all the right decisions, but then as his powers grew through the years, he became like a god, like he could go back in time if he flew fast enough, he could have planned it. Right, spin around. And nobody bought the comic books.

The comic book sales dropped, and people would buy comics like Batman, because Batman is a guy who could... It's more relatable. Yeah, he's dark, you know, he's got some challenges, his parents got killed, like all this other stuff. And so they had to make Superman more relatable, but in reality, what they're doing is,

it's highlighting that people, we need to feel like we're becoming something. It's not about being anywhere, it's not about being at, you know, like okay, I've accomplished everything now, what? We need to have that challenge. And so I think race is like this, like people who work in offices,

people who have every day, you know, they have their kids, they have their jobs. You know, you need to feel like you're conquering something or at least that you're overcoming a challenge or you're feeling alive through a challenge. So what they do is they go sign up for these races that test them and they get wet and they get muddy and they got to climb walls and they got,

and they feel, and it's controlled, but they feel the danger, because people do get hurt at these things. And then you talk to people afterwards, or even before and after, and they're just exhilarators beaming. Yeah, it's like, they feel like, well that was Katrina's brother.

Katrina's brother is 40 years old. He's in the IT tech world, you know what I'm saying? That's, and he grinds 50 to 70 hours every single week. Right. And, you know, was, his younger, and younger days was an athlete, you know, played sports and stuff like that, an athletic guy, and, you know, as, and I remember talking to him afterwards, man, he was so pumped.

Yeah. You could just, you could hear it. I can totally relate. I mean, I brought this up on the show when I did that, that silly football game, you know, it was the same, it was the same thing. I didn't prepare for it like very much. It just being at the event and knowing that there's like extreme, like danger and there's things that could happen that, you know, I could get hurt or, you know, I'm enduring, like, some pain, like momentarily in the moment, like it forces everything to be so present.

And then after everything's done, it's like, whoa, you get this rush. It's this crazy rush you get from it. But it's hard to describe. But it's not, I mean, can people get addicted to that rush or whatever, sure, but is that a good feeling to encounter a challenge and to persevere? You don't even have to succeed or win

just the fact that you proved yourself that I could do it. Yeah, now think about this think about how parents parents are kids nowadays They we remove all that from our kids. We take we try as hard as we can as parents and I'm guilt I was guilty of this we try so hard to eliminate as many challenges as possible Let's get get all the obstacles out of the way, make it easy as possible, kind of try to pave the smooth road for our kids so they have this easy road to success. But the reality is if you make that life too easy for them, the road that you're paving is not success. The road that you're paving is, you know, this feeling of being either, you know, not teaching them how to overcome. No, you're not doing any of that. So for me, I've been fasting now every month,

and I've been noticing the physical benefits of fasting. But what I'm mostly falling in love with is not the physical benefits of fasting. It's the psychological. Yeah, 100%. It's that I know I'm about to not eat for three days that's still a challenge for me. And when I do it at the end of it,

I always feel like, fuck, I can totally do it. Like I can totally go without food for a few days under that control. Completely. This is why I think it exists in all these cultures and religions. These are challenges that we self-impose on ourselves to give us meaning into, I mean, that's how you forge,

what is it, steal us forge with fire, right? I mean, you gotta have a little bit of that in order to feel like things are worth something. So that's kind of what I talked about, and it resonated, I mean, the beginning, when I was giving the speech, everybody's eating dinner, I think they were like, I just wanna eat, dude, like you're talking, I mean.

That's a big, big, big hole. But I think at the end, people were like, okay, yeah, fuck yeah, that's a big deal. Well, I heard your intro was shitty. I heard Taylor said that Joe gave you a really shitty intro into you coming over. I want to give him crap about that. Oh, it wasn't that, fuck yeah, that's what I heard. I heard your intro was shitty. I heard Taylor said that Joe gave you a really shitty intro into you coming over. I want to give him crap about that. Oh, it wasn't that, it wasn't that.

It was just short. It was just, hey, here's Sal and I entered myself, which I would prefer to do anyway. Oh, really? Yeah. You know what it is? You know what it reminds me of? It's like, you ever seen like,

you ever go to a bar and there's like a comedian or something in the background, but everybody's just kind of hanging out. So it's on the back. So I feel like people are eating and they're not really expecting someone to like talk. I've heard comedians complain, you know, some of these clubs that have like food like that like accessible because it totally distracts you. Yeah, you know, it's just you, it's just initially it's like that like getting everybody like, okay, now I'm talking. Right. But then everybody capturing. Yeah, everybody got where you the first speaker was there people before you?

He just said a little bit and then it was me and that was it. Oh, okay, wow. I was the only one, yeah. Oh, wow. I was the only one talking. So anyway, but yeah, I was, you know, I can see the value in these types of things, because initially as a trainer and as a fitness professional,

when I see these things, I'm kind of like, you know, why, like what's the purpose? Like why are you doing so many better ways to get in shape or whatever, right? But you really do see the value in what it brings people and it's not the physical value. The physical value is a side effect. I think it's the other side.

And you bond with everybody else that's there, you know, going through the same thing. So it's, there's definitely power in it. And it's, you know, it's a great experience for a lot of people. How is the food, what they serve? It was good, it was just regular steak and vegetables and potatoes and stuff like that. Yeah, decent stuff.

Good people, very good people. The Spartan team or staff, always very welcoming, nice people. So I've always had a good experience with them. Dude, I'll tell you what, it has been a bit challenging eating though over the weekend for me, after getting these teeth installed because it's just like soar and. You're doing shakes?

Yes, so exact. So like I'm even just chewing on it, like vegetables and chewing, I was like trying to eat some broccoli. Oh, it was just like these lightning bolts that would hit. So I was like, you know, screw it. I'm just gonna go with my green juice and like do that all weekend, just save my ass. Cause I was like, you know, screw it. I'm just going to go with my green juice and like do that all weekend is save my ass because like I can only literally do.

So I did that and then I did some, I actually did some weight protein too, which I'm not like a huge weight protein, you know, drinker. But I'm like, I gotta get into some calories man. So yeah, I was like, how long? Doing all shakes like all weekend and how long will you be on the butter shake diet? I mean, when are you supposed to start eating? Oh, no, it's, I think it varies, you know, person to person. Like, for me, I kind of tried, I tried to eat a little bit of meat,

like Courtney had made some clua pork as well, and I was like, gumming on that for like 20 minutes, you know, it just wasn't working. So I'm like, I'm going to shakes, man, fuck this. But yeah, I'm just starting to now kind of eat, like softer meats and stuff. So, you know. But yeah, I'm just starting to now kind of eat like softer meats and stuff. So, you know, but yeah, you have to eat it all in like the very back.

So like, you know, these teeth and back I'm like grinding it down. And that's about all I got. You can go ripped. Yeah. You can't eat anymore. Exactly. Yeah.

You were saying how the, the, you're using probiotics. Oh yeah, no, I just wanted to ask you. Did you just remind me? Well, I wanted to ask your opinion on that because I, I don't, again, I don't know if I'm just drawing the conclusion myself or there's, there's something there that, you know,

I started getting in the habit of, because we have, organify everything, right? So we're obviously, we're sponsored by them. So I have my fucking kitchen cupboard, looks like it. So I have all their stuff in there. And if, probably the thing that I use the least is the probiotic. And we had something a couple of weeks back where my stomach was just kind of upset.

I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go take one of those. And I remember a few hours going by and I'm like, oh, shit, I felt a lot better. That's crazy. So I've been kind of training myself if I eat off the diet or eat something I know is not ideal for my body. Now I'm trying to have it with it.

And I've noticed that my stomach's not getting upset when that happens. Same stuff that would normally start to upset me after eating it, I feel really settled from that. Yeah, so the bifidobacterium and the acido, I think the bifidobacterium and the acidoflus think the bifidyl and the acidothalus in there, are known to be able to help with digestion quite a bit. So I've done that too in the past where my gut was off

if I was gonna eat something, then I would eat a probiotic with the food and it would make a huge difference. You could do that with digestive enzymes it'll help a little bit too. It's five guys burger is near our house and it's like one of the go to burger spots. If Katrina and I decide like on a Friday night, let's have a burger or something and so we'll do

that. And the one thing I had to say that is the drawback of having the five guys is that, you know, it never fails afterwards. I'm just like, I just feel like a brick. Yeah, like a brick or rock is in my stomach and just as good as it is going down, I just don't feel great afterwards. But since I've been using that, I feel totally different. So that's been kind of a cool little app. Now, the problem with that, and this is what I fell into, is I, because of that, I started using it.

Yeah, I started using them like, I got the cure. Yeah. But really what it's doing is it's, it's helping, but it's not, like you're still getting some of the negative effects. You're just not getting as many. Right. So I figured that like, I, because I would do that, man, I was like, like you're still getting some of the negative effects, you're just not getting as many. Right. So I figured that, like, because I would do that, man, I was like, all you would ever want now, I'm just probiotic.

Right. And I think that's important. I'm glad you brought that up, because I would never want to give that impression that in somebody in our audience, like, oh shoot, I'm going to buy the prog, now I just fucking eat shitty food all the time and just take it, like, no, I'm not. No, the way I'll do it is if I'm, if I know I'm going to, like if I make the conscious choice, like, okay, you know what, I'm going to go eat this, whatever, I'll do it is if I'm, if I know I'm gonna, like if I make the conscious choice, like, okay, you know what, I'm gonna go eat this whatever, I'll bring my probiotic with me and take that,

then it'll help, but otherwise, it's not like, it's not a ticket to doing whatever you want. Yeah, yeah, I wish it was, but it's not. No, I'm not using it like that. I was pretty certain that's probably not an ideal way, but it's nice to know that that makes a difference because it is something that, you know, Katrina and I will occasionally have when we're craving a burger

And it's so close to home and now I've kind of dude real quick. I got I got asked you guys. Did you guys see what Elon Musk did? About Facebook took himself off Facebook and space and took SpaceX off Facebook and I think Tesla yeah off Facebook Yeah, ho Talking shit, too Bro is this people on Twitter were challenging him to do that he's like oh yeah well take that off facebook shares are i mean they're down they've been up and down but they're they're down right now because of all the stuff and then there's a talk about how they might get investigated there might be some

regulations which i think is just stupid. I know, don't regulate them. That'll only make it worse. Do not inject any government into tech at all. This is like their opportunity to sink their teeth into tech. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. Oh, we have an up big monster down. Dude, here's what they do.

They never, ever let bad news go to waste. If some shit goes down, yes, because when people are scared, they never, ever let bad news go to waste. If some shit goes down, they drag it through the mud. Because when people are scared, they're easy to manipulate. So now people, especially the people who are scared the most right now is the liberal left, right? The political left because the story was that this company went in, mined a bunch of data from Facebook, and then used it to sway voters to vote for Trump. And so now all the, you know, what they're trying to do is they're trying to use that political, you know, story

to tell the left, hey, this is, this is not good. This is not Trump elected. Yeah, and here's the truth. The truth is both sides have been doing that forever. Yeah. Like they spend a lot of fucking money on trying to sway people in psychological warfare and all that kind of stuff. So this is nothing new, but what they're trying to do is use the fear of Trump that the left

has so much, or the hatred or whatever, to encourage them to push forward for regulations in tech, which is a terrible, terrible idea, terrible idea. You let them jump in. The next thing you know, your Facebook will be a machine for propaganda, which it is a little bit through corporations, but it's always safer than having government force behind it, type of deal.

Don't let them in, but yeah, I think it's hilarious, how Elon pulled this, so that's the fine. There's nothing wrong with that. If a private company does- He's got personal shit with Mark Zuckerberg though. I do. They don't like each other. That's the fine, there's nothing wrong with that. If a private company does- He's got personal shit with Mark Zuckerberg though. They don't like you too. That's like a billionaire jab. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I don't like you, you don't like me, I love it. Your company's struggling right now. Let me give you a little kick while you're down. I love it. I love it. He said he still will use Instagram or something, right? Oh yeah, they were talking shit on Twitter, I saw that.

More than? Yeah, yeah, well he was talking shit about him, but he was, you on musk was, but I didn't see anything with Zeta Bergum back on him. But speaking of old news, I have something for you guys that's funny. When was the last time you guys heard a men's warehouse commercial?

I guarantee it. You're gonna like the way you look. You're gonna like the way you look. Right, right, when was the last time you heard one of those commercials? Do you remember? Oh man, the long ago was like the 90s. No, the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the way you're gonna like the reason why I'm bringing this up is I'm in the hotel room this weekend. This is just how my brain works. I don't know if anybody else can relate to this or not.

I think Sal, you're like this. We're laying in the hotel and we're like, it's like, 10 o'clock a night, we're watching TV. And the fucking men's warehouse commercial comes on. And Katrina and I aren't even really watching to you. We're kind of talking, but I can hear it and see it. And of course, the men's warehouse commercial is so familiar to me because I've heard it

five billion times, right? Yeah. But what catches me is, it's not him. Is he done? What? It's not him. No. So this is why I said this is old news.

He was actually fired in 2013. What? Right. Oh, I remember reading about that. I remember reading about that. I kind of vaguely do too, but it didn't sink in for me. And the reason why this why didn't sink in probably for you either.

So of course, this is what I do whenever someone like this happens, just because I'm curious right away, I get to Google and like, you know, the men's warehouse guy, figure out who his name is, then I've researched like, why is he not the commercials, then I find out the whole story. So he, first of all, he started the thing

fucking forever ago. I think it's, I think the company's almost 40 years old. 1970. Right. It's been around for a long time. Yeah. He grew it to over 1100 locations. Wow.

Okay. So, yeah, bro, over 1100 locations, but here's the deal. So what happens? He ended up getting a board. It turns into this huge company, very similar to Mark Mastroff story. Then he's like the chairman of the deal. So what happens, he ended up getting a board, it turns into this huge company, very similar to Mark Mastroff story. Then he's like the chairman of the board, then he's trying to tell them,

they want to do things and they're like, not, you're out, we don't need you anymore. It gets rid of them. But they've got, they've already got 500 hours of his commercial time. So since 2013, running him like a little bit. Right, we've been hearing his voice still for a long time, even though he wasn't the voice of the company anymore

Because he's not a list of pissed them off and that was the first time right that was the first time it was Made the connection for me that oh he's no longer you'll guarantee it, you know, it's not him anymore It's some other dude and it sounded horrible didn't come off. Oh, man. Yeah. Yeah, so I know that's a hell of old news Or somebody who already knew that but it hadn't sunk in for me because I had seen these commercial You have funny. Yeah, the local commercials just stick with you I remember when even when I was in Chicago they have like this guy that he he does like commercials for like a carpet company And it's been like the staple commercial like that's always on but there's always something like that and like you know Like local communities will have like somebody that just like, is like an icon.

I remember him from the mens warehouse or remember the guy from the diamond center. The diamond center guy. With the big ass mustache. Yes, dude. I remember Paul from the diamond center. Yeah, and then I remember Vidal Sassoon. You don't look good.

Yeah, if you don't look good, I don't, we don't look good for that. Those are the three guys. What about the hair club for men guy? Wait, and it's if he was national, he was like syndicate. Yeah, no, but I just those other three guys to do with the diamond setter guys. The diamond center guy killed it.

Fucking winner. He's a champion. He's a champion. Absolutely. A ladies man. She had on the show. Couldn't stand the guy. There's this guy, this roofing guy.

That he's the local. Knox roofing, I think, but yeah, anyway, I had a backspinning. He just got a plug. Yeah, no, I just blasted him. He said he fucked up my roof. I got but yeah anyway I had a backspinning You just gotta plug it. Yeah, no I just blasted it He fucked up my roof. I got a hole in my roof I never showed up and I was trying to fix my neighbors like I tell you about this story about what happened when I first moved into my house. No. Oh my god, dude

So I rented a truck big old rental truck and if you guys have ever been to my house I know Adam has been to my house, but like you have to go down Like this it's like a not a through street and so you drive down this really narrow Road and so like you you wind through all these redwood trees and shit, and so this is one corner Then I'm trying to drive this big ass truck through and it's really close to this this other little extension of a house. And so I'm like turning the corner and I hear a donk and then it gets louder. And so I like try and back up and then I'm hitting it and scraping it even more.

It turns out I hit the like top of the roof. Oh shit. The roof was hanging. Oh you wrote. You first moved in. You never told this story, dude. Yeah, I hate you as a name. I hit was moving you never told this story dude. Yeah, I hate you Is it name I hit the house? And he was in it

Get out he's just like like just raging on me and I was in there with my dad and I'm like whoa I'm so sorry like I had like I don't know Like I was literally just turning the corner like I had no idea your roof was like hanging over the road You know, I had no idea your roof was hanging over the road. There's no sign fall mad at him. What the fuck, bro, your roof hanging over the road? No, I was being very apologetic. Your roof had my truck. Sorry, man.

I had no idea. I was trying to be chill. I'm actually going to be your neighbor. It got really weird. I'm just like, fuck, I got to handle this. Are you guys friends now or no? No, no, we don't talk. It's all your fault.

It was bad impression. Since day one. Yeah, but apparently the guys are totally dick anyway. So, you know, it's fine with me. I like to weed them out quick. So, yeah, so I totally messed this up. It was totally my fault. And so I'm trying to make up for it.

And I'm calling people. I'm calling a plethora of these companies. And I'm like, please help. I mean, dire need of somebody to come fix this thing like ASAP. And, you know, I presented a couple companies. He was like, he rejected two of the people like, I tried to get work on my house because he's like, works for the city. So he's like, super anal about like, you know, their license and all this shit. And I'm like, come on guy. Like, I'm trying to help you on pay for this and get it done. And so he's just giving me a hard time,

little time and he's like, I only want this company and so he gets like the Knox roofing people and so I'm like fine, whatever, let's go with them. So I'm taking work off to make sure that I'm there to explain the situation and that it's actually my neighbor's house, I'm fixing not my house and then you need to show up at this location this time. And so take work off, no show, no show, all day.

I call, I'm like, what the hell? Like, I gave my phone number, everything, nothing. Fine, I'll give you that. I'll give you like a mole again, right? And so, we set up another date. This is like same exact thing. I take work off, I'm like losing money out of this whole thing. Guess what, no show again, no call.

None of that. And I deliberately called the office and was like, you better fucking call me if you guys are gonna have a problem finding the place or whatever. You make sure you call me. I'm taking work off of no show, ghosted me, whatever. Three times? Yeah, so I wrote him a scaling review on fucking Yelp.

And I'm like, dude, you can't like, you can't wear a business like that, like, come on. You had to go with a different company? Yeah, so finally found a guy that was like, he worked on a lot of the local like cabins, like I live in kind of a community and so he does a lot of handiwork and stuff. So I finally got him to help patch and fix it up

and then he fixed it up and then it was like, okay, cool, finally, and then anyways, it was this big, big ordeal, it was super stressful was like, okay, cool, finally. And then anyways, it was this big, big ordeal, it was super stressful. And like, meanwhile, I'm like remodeling my house and you know, I had a newborn, and I'm living with my parents. And when I get off work, I'm coming home,

remodeling my house all by myself. And it was like the most chaotic, stressful, fucking situation at all. He had no idea who he was messing with. Dude, so ever since then, I'm like, you so ever since then I'm like you're dead to me guy Today's quas being brought to you by Kai Maricopi It's the only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner Only coffee that is infused with all natural neutropics for a cleaner, calmer, and more focused buzz without the crash.

Put the chimera link at MindPokeMedia.com and input the discount code MindPokeCheckout for 10% off. It's the motherfucking qual! The eagle has landed! Quikwa. All right, our first question is from Tony Low, yo, yo, yo. Oh, it's our boy. Yo yo!

I'd like to hear Adam discuss how he's programming and planning nutrition for recovery. Oh. Um, as far as the nutrition piece right now, it's actually nothing I'm really too focused on yet. And that's just because I kind of, you're trying to keep your weight the same, right? Yeah, I don't wanna see my weight go up or down.

So I'm kind of subtly adjusting how I'm eating, but not really, like not, this is not how I work. So when I'm getting, especially when I'm like rehabbing, so this is more about like my Achilles and getting that, getting myself healed and mobility and getting strength back. And so just a personal strategy for me when I'm doing something like this,

I don't have a show in time or anything like that. There's kind of like, I start to take things in phases of what are priorities. And so priority right now is the recovery of the Achilles and mobility. Hence, is why every day there's some sort of prime or prime pro that I'm addressing with my posture.

You see me doing the sauna, you see me doing the infrared, you see me doing the ice bath right now, or the banded planner, dorsiflexion and stuff. Yes, exactly. You see me, I was just doing that next to you the other day, Justin, where I wrap a band around my foot and I actually haven't even posted that. I do that too.

So really, you do that more as a trigger session, right? Throughout the day. Yep. I'll just, and you know, something that I'm noticing is just I've got, I definitely have this card. This Achilles is different. It's different than anything else I've dealt with. It's for sure one of the most challenging injuries

I've personally dealt with. I haven't done a lot. Like I'm not like a motor cross-fucking racer. I have 400 different injuries or broken bones, but I've had enough that this is probably going to be the longest that of anything I've ever done. I think in my head because I'm technically six weeks out from the injury, like, oh, cool. I should be recovered right now, but no, I mean, when I was at the Spartan race, like, you know, from seven a.m. till about noon, I'd already put 10,000 steps in. Well, the most steps I've done since this injury three months ago is about 10 to 12,000 steps.

That's a lot. And when I do that, like, and that doing that much in that morning, walking out on dirt, so that, oh, I was so inflamed. Oh, still? Oh, yeah. I was inflamed and swollen and hurt and stuff. So now how do you feel the day after or two days after doing something like that?

Well, that would be today. Yeah. So I'm sore today. So you still feel it? Oh, yeah. No, it's painful. Yeah, no, it's like, like I said, this is like nothing before. Yeah, because I'm wondering, because I know with injuries, what I've experienced is if you

push it a little bit, it heals faster, but that's a hard, it's hard to figure out what that means. Well, and again, you know, uh, this one is different than anything else I've done where you're, you're right. There's a lot of injuries I've had before where getting in there, get the blood flowing, get the oxygen going, get nutrient sent there, start moving around, and it's a little painful through the moving around process, but then once it feels loosened up, it actually feels good. This one's a little different,

and I just think that's because I opted not to do the surgery, I still probably have some, and even when they were under there, talking about my keelies, I still had some damage in there around my ankle from previous injuries. So I think I just gotta have a lot of damage and that is still, there's still some of a healing process there. So that's why this one, and so again,

I'm moving really slow when you look at my workouts. Because it's an injury thing and the feel and how I feel is so much more important than how I would program getting ready for a show or building muscle or trying to increase strength, because I care about my numbers or something. So I really don't write a workout out. I actually go through the workout

and kind of listen to my body as I'm going through, and then I document it for everyone to see. So what you're seeing on my Insta story right now is not Adam and the lab, like, wrote out like the next 12 weeks and I'm like, this is, I'm gonna follow this to a tee. It's more like, how do I feel today? These are certain areas that I wanna touch and address.

And my volume is pretty low. What I am tracking for everybody next month, you'll really see me start to move the screws is I'm tracking my total volume. And so you see me just adding the days up. So someone the other day, DM me and they're like, you know, if you guys are all about maps in three days a week, why are you on day five?

You know, I'm like, that's day five since I've been back asshole, not like five days a week. You know what I'm saying? That's not what I'm saying. That's to say that we would say, got you slipping. Right, and there's programs that we would encourage

five, six days a week also. But that was so anyways, I'm saying that's to say that that we would say cut your slipping right and there's programs that we would encourage five six days a week also But that was so anyways, I'm I'm numbering everything so people can see and then at the end of 30 days I don't know how many workouts that's gonna be it could be 12 could be 10 could be about 15 or so and then my goal is next week Is to build upon that or next month is to build upon that so I'm not putting this pressure of you know I got this I'm writing this program out, or I'm following Maps Red to a T. It's like, no, I'm taking things from Prime and Prime Pro. There's some staple things in Maps Antibolic,

which is our foundational program. So of course, it's gonna be inside my programming right now, but right now it's about recovery for me, man. Are you able to squat heavy or is it limiting that? I mean, I've squatted up to 205. Do you feel like that's still limiting the limit? No, I don't need that limit to my squat. Oh, wow.

Yeah, yeah, no. I'm assuming a deadlift it would limit because of the posterior chain. I'm more scared to go heavy on that. It hasn't. I've been doing, I've incorporated single leg dead lifts in there. I've got single leg toe touch in there. So I'm challenging the ankle.

So I'm definitely doing some barefoot work that I'm doing. I did conventional and I did wide grip deadlifts or snatch grip deadlifts in there. But I haven't, I definitely wouldn't go really, really heavy on because of post-eater chain like yourself. You also took time off period of training. Yeah, you're up for body, everything. Yeah. So you're not just, I mean, you're rehabbing, but you're also just getting back into it.

Right. At that point, I finally just, I think, and I don't know if I mentioned this on the show, and I know we've talked about it that I just, with everything that was going on with my body, hormonally, with the testosterone being off of that for as long as I've been off of that now for the injury going on. I really was like, okay, I'm not going to dwell on my physical mean. I'm not going to dwell on my physique and care about that stuff. Like I'm going to put energy and effort into personal growth. You did a workout fast. Right. Exactly. And I know how fast I can get it back. I guess to take

away from that for some people. I mean, it literally is a workout fast. It's important that we communicate that because people might confuse that with, because it's different than somebody just saying, fuck it, I don't wanna work out. Right, or falling off the wagon. It's very different. You're listening to a person who's been in fitness professionally for 15 years and been active

for most of his life, so it wasn't, and I know this, it wasn't you saying, fuck it, I don't wanna do any more fitness, it wasn't you saying, fuck it, I don't want to do any more fitness, it was you literally saying, I need to fast from fitness because in that state, you know, and maybe correct me if I'm wrong, that is a very difficult state to go through when, you know, whether you like it or not, there was at least some identification with being fit and being able to move and be in practice. Of course, of course, right?

So fasting from that, you know that was more about treating your psyche than anything. It was. And that's kind of how I took the challenge on. So instead of like fighting my body and being angry every time I was at the gym and then I felt and pain. Like detached. Just detached.

I'm gonna let go of that part of me. I'm gonna let go of that. I can always get it back whenever I want to. And so I just kind of embraced this. Like okay, I'm not gonna lift right now, I'm not gonna train, I'm not gonna worry about my physique going to shit, I'm not gonna worry about my arms getting all skinny,

starting to get kind of a belly. Like, I just said, you know what? Like, I'm not gonna worry about that. Now, I also didn't go off the rails and just say, fuck, everything and just eat like shit. That's the difference. That's what I'm saying. Cause I would have been royally fucked.

Like, I put on some serious body fat for me by being mindful. Just, yeah. I mean, I was down to eating once, twice a day at the most. I had to cut my calories in half, because I'm just not moving. I mean, I'm turning it over to now. Like a 10,000-step day is a big deal for me. A 10,000-step day would be a sedentary day for me just three months ago. No, you have to imagine, if you're listening right now, you have to imagine, you know, if we're fitness professionals,

we've been doing this for a long time. There is a level of identification with the physical. Of course, every, first of all, it's everybody. Everybody's got some kind of attachment to their body. If you were to lose a limb or not being able to move for a while, you, it would be very challenging just because you have some attachment to your ability to move. But, you know, multiply at times,

you know, 10 with someone who's in fitness, who now has lost the ability to have a quote unquote good feeling workout because of, you know, hormones are off. And then on top of it, you can't move your lower body at all. So you're now you're limited even more. So removing yourself from that wasn't, and I know this. I was watching you. It wasn't you saying I give up on life. I'm just gonna fucking be lazy

It was literally I'm gonna detach because this is fucking with me and this is how I'm gonna get through this and so it's Important we communicate that because I'm pretty sure those people listening right now who are going through something similar or May goes through something similar and sometimes that's the Now, the side effect of that being, of course, you lose your fitness, you're not able to work out and all that stuff. But life is all about looking at like your options and sacrifice. And at that moment, it was, okay, you know, my body, I'm gonna have to sacrifice it for a second to to strengthen and create more of a healthy psyche. Otherwise, what's the other option? Fuck, man, massive depression or anxiety or whatever.

Right, you know? And I even, there was a little bit at the very beginning that I kind of struggled with that because I thought, okay, well, I can still do all my upper body stuff. So better of me do that than nothing. And I just, I felt my self-reliat challenge. When you look at my physique for me personally,

my, I spent the first 10 years of my workout career focusing on my upper body. So honestly, it's the least thing I need to worry about. It was, the last 10 years of my lifting, I've really started to build my lower half. So if there's anything that is lagging or needs the most attention, it's my, my lower physique, which I can no longer move.

So the kind of, I started like, I started fucking with myself where I just get like, well fuck, what am I, I'm sitting here lifting my upper body, it's my lower physique, which I can no longer move. So the kind of, I started like, I started fucking with myself where I just get like, well, fuck, what am I, I'm sitting here lifting my upper body. It's like, why? Just so I can feel my shirts out. Like, why am I doing it? Why am I so, why do I care so much that I need to keep pressing through right now? I fucking hurt right now. I'm in pain. I don't feel like doing this. It's like, no, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna shift my focus. Instead of hanging on to a certain way that I look or Trialing as trying as hard as I can to try and make it. No, I'm gonna be mindful. I'm gonna cut back on some of the calories

I'm gonna make a little bit better choices. I'm not gonna allow myself to go off the deep end and stuff like that I can't fucking move and I'm gonna put my energy and focus towards other things that aren't hindered by that like I don't need an Achilles to sit down and read a book You know what I'm saying? Like I don't need an Achilles to connect with my sister or my brother and give him a call and talk to them for an hour on the phone. Things that I probably wasn't doing enough of as it was in my life. So I chose to fast from that.

That's a great way to put it so I didn't think of it that way as saying it as fast, but it absolutely was a workout fast for me. And the same way that I reintroduced food into my diet after a long period of fasting. You see me doing with exercise. There is not like this, I'm going to eat this, I'm going to do this or whatever. It's like, okay, I'm going to start really easy. I mean, two sets of exercises, one muscle group I'm touching, you know, I'm saying very

lightweight for me. I'm nowhere near going to fail. It's like I'm just touching these weights. And then I'm kind of assessing how I feel afterwards. Oh shit, like that little bit of actually fucking got me sore. Wow. I'm that decondition right now. So I don't need to be in here training every single day. Now that you've been lifting, have you noticed the changes you've been saying your testosterone? You can feel it more than they have. Yeah, yeah. That's the biggest thing I notice right now. And I,

you know, I've got great things to say about the Juve line. I've got great things to say about the jive light I've got great things to say about the sunlight Saunas I've definitely that those things have helped me in multiple ways that I that I appreciate but nothing has made a bigger difference than than the strength training has for like my My testosterone levels my sex drive like that's just it's crazy, right? It was crazy So think about it this way think about what a gift you've been given, and I know it's been challenging, so I hate to say it that way, and I'm not being insensitive to what you've gone through. But think about the gift you've been given now feeling it firsthand, so recently, just how big of an impact resistance training can make on those good feeling and abolic

hormones, for when we communicate this to people. You know, it's crazy. It's so crazy and it's so funny even myself because, you know, I'm taking all these herbal supplements, I'm doing all these other things to help boost it too. And, you know, it never fails. Like, and we talk about it on the show all the time, but until you feel it like a dramatic difference.

Like that. You know, and I know a lot of like probably mid 20 people that are listening to this, they just, they don't give a fuck and they can't connect to that yet and I understand. But at one point, you'll be 30, at one point, you'll be 40, at one point, you'll be 50. And at one point, you will feel your hormones

if you're a natural person start to decline. And as a man, and of course, I'm going to the extreme version, so you can kind of hear like for me, like, oh shit, like I don't ever want to feel that. Well, I mean, I battled with depression over it. I didn't, I had no motivation to want to come and live. I have no sex drive. And all those fucking things are all compounding.

So you put them all in together and it's just like eliminate one, it's gonna affect everything else. Oh, it's a domino effect And especially if you're if you're used to being like yeah sexual alpha strong dude not that that was your identity But to an extent if you live that way for a while and then that's taken from you like ah well Yeah, I mean I challenge I definitely think that I'm a little bit of an extreme version because of what you just said right there But it made me really connect to all the male clients that I've ever trained in their 40s and 50s

and are struggling to get to the gym and just work out and keep that consistency going. Like for me, the blessing or the silver lining and all this is that, they'll come a time when I'm 50, I know for sure where I'm like busy, maybe we have another company, your business, or things that we have on our plate. And I don't care about my physique as much as I used to. And that was a major motivator for me

through my young adulthood. So I could totally see that they'll come a time where I potentially could be off the wagon or not being consistent for a while. And this will serve as an incredible lesson and reminder for myself as I age that nothing has made me feel better. And it was very, very hard to get this momentum going. I mean, I'm really only on about two weeks and I'm finally feeling, and I feel it different.

Oh, I feel, I know. Your energy is different. Right, I can feel it in my energy. It can feel it in the way I communicate. And I talk to people, my motivation throughout the day. And, I can feel it in my energy, it can feel it in the way I communicate and I talk to people, my motivation throughout the day. And so I can feel, you know, and I know I trailed off for Utoni on like what am I exactly doing,

but the honest to God truth is, I don't fucking know. You know what I'm saying? Like every day I go into it, I'm trying to listen to my body. Now there are certain things that I do know, one thing is that I'm trying not to overdo it. That's a big mistake that I think a lot of people make. I've made it in the past with an injury, so I'm weighing on the lesses more right now.

It doesn't take much to get your body to change. No. That's the thing, the thing that I love most about getting older, this is actually why I embrace getting older, no joke. Like I look forward to turning 40. I look forward to turning 50, because the wisdom that comes with it, and the wisdom really is just experience

and learning from experience. There's definitely older people that aren't wise because they choose not to learn from experience, but if you pay attention, and you go through, you're gonna go through challenges because that's how life is. There's gonna be a bunch of shit that's gonna challenge you. And you learn from it, you're gonna go through challenges because that's how life is. There's gonna be a bunch of shit that's gonna challenge you.

And you learn from it, you become wiser and wiser. To the point now where I know this is, this is what I find very interesting. Now when I'm in a tough situation, when I'm in a very challenging situation, as hard as it is, I know at the end of it, I'm gonna be better. So now when I have a challenging situation,

part of me's like, ah, this is terrible, but there's another part of me that's like, I can't wait to see what the other side is that this is gonna look like, because I know I'm gonna kind of add of it and learn from it. So it's knowing that cycle and that sequence. So that's the thing about it, you know? No, I was going to this and sharing with a buddy

and he's like, man, it's so crazy. Your attitude with this that you're not like, poor me or you're not, you know. Oh, if this was, you know, 19 year old you or what 20 year old you're right. And what I've told him is just along the lines what you're saying right now is what I've had enough of adversity in my life growing up that, you know, what I started to realize after you've done it enough times

is wow, the shittier it is and the more challenging it is, you know, as hard as this is to say and think about, the fucking better it becomes. Like on the other side of that fear and on the other side of this hardship or whatever it is I'm going through, the harder it is, the more rewarding it is on the other side. Something always emerges that you didn't expect

that's even more powerful in something that you didn't expect that's even more, you know, powerful than that you didn't, like, even foresee this. So the shittier it gets, I mean, that's my takeaway with it, and when I try and remind people, and I know it's mentally tough to do that, but, man, if the darker it is, the harder it is, the lighter it becomes, the better it is on the other side when you break through. It's the phoenix. You guys ever see a picture of phoenix? You're here, the story of the phoenix, the bird that gets consumed by flames and then emerges Phoenix? You're here to the story of the Phoenix, the bird that gets consumed by flames and then emerges. I actually sent that to my sister

when she was going through her divorce, and now she's gonna get a Phoenix tattoo, so my parents are mad at me. But anyway. Now you've done it. Yep. Next question is from Tristan Antichal. What's the weirdest thing you've ever seen someone do in a gym?

Oh shit. God, weirdo. Did you guys see someone, did you guys gym. Oh shit. God, weird. I've seen it. Did you guys see someone, did you guys get tagged on this? Someone tagged me, they took a clip, maybe it was a DM we got, of the guy spreading his cheeks and fucking dry in his ass crack. Yeah, that's not gonna hand dry in.

Yes, you can talk about that a long time ago. You know what's funny is I would like to say that's weird, but I see it so off time. No, no, that's not the weirdest. So often. That is literally, but I see it so off time. No, no, that's not the weirdest. So often. That is literally, but like his ass cheeks, dude. Ben, you've never seen that? Yeah, I have.

I mean, I just like, I can't believe that that. I have seen that. Well, I have two that come to mind that are, that are, that are, definitely the ball drying. Yeah, that happens always. That's always, yeah. I mean, literally every single time I go in the locker room, there was a dude drawing

with his jaw, that's weird, but it's so common that it's not that weird for us, right? If I walked in and I saw Guy do that, I just kind of shake my head. I wouldn't even be, but. I'd be like, oh, it's Tuesday. I had a couple things that happened that where I was like, Paul, by these,

I was like, no one's done this. This is weird, right? And the first one that I'll share was this, I don't know, she was probably between three and three and four hundred pound heavy set lady, right? And she had her headphones on and she was in our machine area. And she was just fucking dancing. I mean, like between sets and she was just flailing her arms around and like singing out loud and just, which, that's not that weird. We've been into it.

We've seen that, but this is now caught the attention of all management, right? So we're watching her and she just looks a little too much into the music like she's out of it. She's just not really paying attention to anyone who's near because she's kind of flailing our arms and I see some people kind of duck out of the way. They almost get hit and shit.

I'm like, so we're kind of keeping a close eye on her. And then she starts using all the equipment, just like not how it was supposed to be, like just weird. Like sitting in machines, all backwards and different and upside down, and the final straw for us, where I had to come over and finally tell you can't do that. So remember this girl's fucking three, 400 pounds, right?

There is a chest press machine that is facing the mirror. So you can see yourself chest pressing. And it's only about three feet, four feet away from the mirror. And she props her hands up on the chest press, but she's facing it reverse. And she starts walking her feet up the mirror. So she's using the machine to leverage with her arms. And she's walking, she's back walking her feet up against my mirror.

And I'm thinking like, this kid be fucking good right here. Witness it, ever in a good idea to walk on a mirror. Right, so I go over and I tell her, I said, ma'am, could you please not put your feet up on the mirror? You know, say the first time I ever said that, so that was weird, right? Yeah. But it gets weirder. So I kind of tell her that she was polite and everything, but I could tell she was fucking

on one. She was on something and she was kind of out of it. So I walk away kind of like, leave her alone, but we're keeping a close eye on her. She was on something and she was kind of out of it. So I walk away, kind of like leave her alone, but we're keeping a close eye on her. She's not hurting anybody yet. She's not breaking anything yet. And then she makes her way into the wet area. Now I can't really see her,

so I gotta kind of follow her, there goes see what's going on. And she gets into the fucking jacuzzi, just starts taking off her clothes, just getting fucking naked in the cold. She's gonna make it. Look, dude, she's stripping on Oh, she's by time I see her. She's down to her sports bra on panties. And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you can't,

you can't do that. And she's like, ah, she's just just ignored me. Like she's looking through me. And so I get the other management together. I'm like, I don't know if I could physically take this woman out. Like carry her out of the gym right now. And she's in the jacuzzi right now getting naked. Like, I don't know what the fuck can do So we're like I don't know so we call we call I don't remember who we call first But eventually it leads to the fire fire department coming down because we're pretty sure she's on drugs I think she doesn't look sober and so the fire department rolls up, you know the whole squad comes out and there

There's imagine like four firefighters standing outside the jacuzzi and she's still in it. She won't, she refuses a god of it, you know, and she's just in a sports program. We're gonna give the jaws a life. And panties and the guys are like, ma'am, could you please step out? And every time they tell her to step out and they, they kind of reach, like they're trying to reach for what they, she, she dunked under the water. She dumped so little, she dumped so the water and she like holds her breath for a few seconds and she comes back up. She opens up the guys are like, come on, ma'am, you got to get some of the water again she holds her breath for a few seconds and she comes back up She opens up the guys are like come on man. You gotta come up. She gets home with the water again

She's and so they're kind of playing this game until finally when the guys like dude We got to get this lady out of here like they finally get it that there's something wrong with her So yeah two guys get in the pool Oh, like it's quarter out and then they they layer down they strap her down into a fucking you know Which I'm gonna call it you know yeah gur or whatever, and roll her out of there and stuff. But, uh, yeah, is she on? Did they know? Uh, some sort of method of me, I don't know what, what it was.

It's two times. But we did, I mean, they were, they saw her eye, they saw her eyes or behavior and stuff like that. And I was like, she was like, yeah, yeah, for some sort of method of me, we'll find out when we get there. But I had to figure out how to kick somebody, because when you manage a gym, you call the cops or the fire department, I don't know, twice a month, probably a year.

It's pretty great, I agree. Yeah, all the time, right? But I had a guy, so somebody came to me, I met this at the Sunnyvale Club, so I know they remodeled it, but the way it used to be, I may be it's different now, but when you walk in, there's a front desk to the right,

and then straight ahead, there's a glass, and then there's the pool area. And you can actually go through there, or you can go through the locker room. So I'm at the front desk, and someone in their bathing suit walks through the door through the pool area, and they're like, there's a guy in the sauna, and he's threatening people.

So I'm like, oh, fuck. So I'm like, all right, so I gotta go in there. So I walk over, and I'm walking over to the sauna and you can see through the glass, right? Cause it's got a glass door. And there's this big fucker in there, old biker dude looking, right? He's got tattoos, big old beard,

and he's in there by himself and he's just staring at me through the glass. And as I'm walking towards him, he pulls his shorts down and just starts taking a piss. No joke straight into the glass. Yeah. So I'm like, like full frontal view on you.

He just pulled it down enough to let out, but he's doing it at him. No, no, he sees me. He's almost like, come get me motherfucker. So he just kind of pulls it out and just I'm like and so I look at him like what the he's marking his territory. Yeah, I'm like what the fuck are you doing? So I'm like and so I'm thinking in my head like what do I do? So I let him finish yeah, and then I open the door I'm like you need to leave now and so he comes out and he's like oh kick your ass. I'll fight you So I'm thinking I'm like I

gotta fight a big sweaty biker near the pole on the tile. Like someone's gonna slip and I don't want that. This is gonna go well. So I'm in my head, I'm trying to think. Yeah, I'm trying to think like, do I go call my trainers to come help me? Do I call the cops?

Like, what do I do? There's others members watching. So I have this brilliant plan. So he's like, oh fucking fight you right now said, you think you're tough? I said come on me outside, we'll fucking fight outside. Let's see, he's really tough. He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm like, all right follow me. So I walk out the pool area and then I walk up to the front door that leads the outside and I open the door. I open the door for him and I go after you. So he walks outside, I close it and I lock it, I wave at him and I call the police.

So he walks outside, I close it and I lock it, I wave at him and I call the police. Yeah. He'd be out. See you later. Epic way to hand. He was so angry. Epic way to hand. Oh, he's like standing out there in his bathing suit, all wet and shit. You have your moments of brilliance.

That's one of them, for sure. That was one of my favorites. I had a guy one time that was, this was his Persian cap and older dude probably in his 50s or so. And he's in the jacuzzi. So this is the same jacuzzi that the chick is trying to drown herself in or whatever. And he's in there by himself,

and I get a complaint, right? So that's normally how it happens to the gym. Somebody else, like somebody else in the gym realizes how fucking weird it is, and they come looking for management, right? So I get someone comes and be like, yeah, could you come talk to this guy? He's shaving in the jacuzzi.

I was gonna say, not to be stereotypical, but with their hair involved. Dude, yes. And of course, it's the Persian guy who's got lots of hair. Right. So I come walking in and this dude's got a fucking mock three. And he is just, he is just shaving his face and rinsing it off in the jacuzzi while he's sitting in the jacuzzi. And I'm like, part of me, just watch him for a while

because I just really thought that I gotta see this dude is just thinks this is totally normal. And I'm like, this is his house. What goers said, hey dude, you can't do that. You can't just shave in the pool like that. Where do you think it goes? You know what I love is these people always do this. What was it say I can't do that?

I'm like, oh great, I gotta play this game with you. I gotta go get the contract out that you signed that has a million things in the back like don't make me do that I had a thing with that I didn't know like if we had a dress code or not But I just knew that this dude was making everybody uncomfortable with his decision with this like really small speed Oh, I remember this guy. Yeah, and so he was like I don't know if you just came out of the pool If he's just like was wearing a speedo. You can see the veins. You can see like just shaft and like, I mean, it wasn't like impressive or nothing.

It was just like, you know, like it totally molded like his Twig and Barys and it was like, he would do curls right next to the mirror. And so he's doing curls, as he's doing the curls, what made it uncomfortable was, you know, he had this sort of compensation where he's hit thrust again, right towards the mirror. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And so I was just like, I finally, I had enough. I'm just like, dude, like, I'm sorry, man,

but you got to put some shorts on, like legit shorts. And these girls, these are not gonna work. Yeah, and I'm like, this is just not, like, you can't wear this. And he's just like, whoa, I'm wearing this to work out. Like, this is what I would want to do. I'm like, well, you need to wear shorts. You need something to cover up like the situation right here.

It's like, it's very revealing. Go put some clothes on. You got some mad and he was like trying to fight me about it. I, if someone's listening, if you're listening and you are a, you are a trainer who works in a big box gym, here's something for you to do that I wish I would have done. If you're there and you're starting or you've been there for a while, start to journal this stuff because I have forgotten more than I've ever experienced because, and I

can see here until these stories all day long of people doing some weird, just whacking shit. Like those are just the first two that popped in my mind because I think I've shared those before on here a long, long time ago. But I've seen dudes do weird stuff. I mean, seeing guys. People that are just sweaty, they know they're sweaty so they prevent it if you put towels,

like this border around the treadmill. And I just remember watching this guy run. And literally, it was like showers of sweat, which just, pah, just come off this guy. Is this the guy that puts the towels on the side? Yeah, I know him. He was the old guy. Everybody saw him.

Yeah, he was, I was like, he'd go crazy on the stairmaster whenever. Ew, can you do something else? You know, this is just unsanitary, bro. Come on, guy. Just smells. Yeah, he's a smell real bad. He's a smell real bad. Come on, guy. Just smells. Yeah. You smell real bad.

Oh, I know that guy. Do you guys ever see beast? Yes, beast was always there, like loading the fucking leg press like every way the gym. Yeah, who gives a shit and he's like, ah, peacock in there. They call him beast because he wears a weight belt. This is an old fat guy, by the way.

Where's a weight belt that says beast on the back? You do every machine, the full stack, and he would move it a quarter of an inch. That's it. So whenever he would walk in the gym, because I was notorious for getting... He thought he was a badass too. Yeah.

Whenever he'd walk in the gym, I was notorious for getting on the intercom, and I'd be real low under my voice. Just so my staff could hear, I'd go beast. Real bad. On the intercom, so the music will stop. Beast, beast. Beast is here. Beast is at it again.

Next question is from Thayer2513. What is the greatest life lesson each of you have taken from each other? Wow. That's a powerful statement. The greatest life lesson. I can tell you right away that doing some life. No doubt, I will actually probably even go back

and listen to some because I know that there's a lot that I have probably forgotten, but the advice and the information I think that, and this is why I always try and push you guys in this direction about parenting, both Sal and Justin here. Sal, Sal more here and then I'll give something for Justin that I always try and remind myself. So both of them have their unique, their unique as far as the information they've provided,

as far as parenting and being a father. Sal is really unpacked some, you know, critical conversations, I think that you will have with a son or a daughter at one point in your life that I think are tantamount to how you handle it. I think it's so important how you, you, you, you know, convey certain messages when it comes to nutrition and working hard and, you know, playing sports and bullying and like, there's all these things

that these kids are inundated with at that point in their life. And I feel like so many parents kind of just glaze over it. Like they just, or they don't know, they don't know how to say it or they think they're handling it right. And they don't really realize what they're starting to do to that kid by by saying some of these things like they don't realize they're putting their insecurities and their fucking issues now on this child at five six seven years old. And so there's been a lot of things

that, you know, Sal has shared on this podcast that has made me stop and think like, wow, man, I'm so glad I'm not a parent yet because, you know, that hadn't really crossed my mind and I'm not sure what I would have said in that scenario. But I feel now that I have tools that I didn't have before that I think are extremely valuable and I hope that people that listen to this that take from it and it's why I always push the guys in that direction. Now that's kind of sad like that's been a huge take away from it. There's granted all these guys are fucking brilliant in many ways and so there's lots of life lessons and business lessons and communication lessons that we've probably

all given to each other outside of even what you guys have heard on the podcast. So every day is growth, I think, for all of us in a sense. But that has been a big one with Sal for me that I've taken a lot, not just one or two things. There's been a lot of things where I've went, wow, that's fucking really, really solid information. And then with Justin, something that I still have to remind myself, and he's such a good reminder for this is I pride myself on being somebody

one, you can't put me in a box to tell me I can't do it, it's challenging. I'm going to fucking do it. You know, I put myself in uncomfortable situations, but to think that we've built this built this huge podcast with Justin doing something that he absolutely, if you were to have asked him on his own five years ago, would you like to do this? He'd be like, fuck no, I don't want anything to do with that. I don't want to be on a YouTube channel. I don't want to be on a podcast.

So the fact that he does this day in and day out with us, to me, that is such a great lesson for myself when I think, oh, I'm doing something that made me uncomfortable for a day, you know, or for an hour, you know, or something that I don't really want to do. It's like, dude, my boy comes to work every day and lives a life of something that he probably would have never done. How do you not put him so now I maybe it's different now for him, but for me, that has been a constant lesson and reminder for me that

I've taken from him. So those are the first two that come to mind for both of them. Yeah, I'll go, dude. I think for me, just for you guys, I mean, I picked up quite a bit. I think obviously the communication piece and just like Adam was mentioning me, just being uncomfortable with the whole process of it and really just kind of modeling a lot about how you guys communicate and articulate your points

and you know, throw it out there and being confident behind it. And I think that, you know, just starting with Sal, I think one of the biggest things that I've tried really hard to emulate into sort of shadow is just the delivery and the assertiveness behind some of, you know, is opinions and thought process. Just because I'm sort of the opposite in that I like to really critically analyze and I over-analyze a lot of times what I'm trying to convey. And so a lot of times

we'd go to communicate that and verbalize it. It's just you just get stuck and you get frozen and you start really like living in your head and while everybody else is kind of waiting on the other end of it for you to deliver it and it just becomes awkward and kind of clunky. And so that's always been something that I've kind of noticed I do. And it's nice having, you know, both you guys are really good at this, but, you know, just having that delivery and just the way that I can, I can, every day I can come in and sharpen up my skills just by, you know by being right next to you guys and being approximately next to you. And then as far as Adam is concerned, the same thing as far as communication, but really

more so in how he deals with follow-ups and how he really just does such a masterful job at always keeping contact with people and keeping people close to us and really letting them know that they're important. And that's something that I recognize that really early and that's something that drew me to Adam and to do business with him because there's part of that retention where it's cool that if you're in front of me, we have great rapport. And, you know, I'm good about scheduling it and being forward, but to kind of go back and touch people that I used to communicate with is something that I'm terrible at. And Adam just has that

mind where he'll go back and, you know, make sure that a lot of people, they hear from him and from us as a company in a group. I think those two things are big. Yeah, for me, I think, Justin doesn't complain. Ever. He never complains about anything. It doesn't mean he doesn't like something. He tends to do something about whatever he doesn't like.

Not that I felt like I was a big complainer before, but I definitely feel like I could get stuck in a space and feel maybe negative about something, whereas Justin tends to just act. He moves forward. And so I've never worked with anybody who literally doesn't, who takes that on so easily, or at least so readily as Justin does.

So I really appreciate watching that, especially because when we first started the show, I was going through some very, very difficult times and, you know, Justin's had lots of challenges. Well, he doesn't even talk a lot about his challenges. And it's not, part of it is, yeah, you're not a big shareer of things, but the other part of it is,

you just don't complain about shit. I think you tend to have a different mentality about challenges in life and stuff like that. And so it's really cool to watch because when you're around that, that's a form of confidence. It's very quiet and calm. It's actually probably the most genuine form of confidence because it's not cocky.

It doesn't come out boastful. It's very just action. It's just, you just move. It's really cool to see that. Adam is very, very growth oriented. So growth oriented that he'll put himself in situations that are extremely challenging for him and he just puts himself there and then decides he's going to embark on this journey, whatever that may be, whether it be a journey of mobility or a journey of changing his nutrition or going off the hormones, whatever it may be, he tends to go for it and it sucks and you can see that it sucks for him. So it's not like he's doing it and it's easy,

but it's cool to watch somebody else do that because it makes you feel more, I guess more confident in doing that for yourself. And I'm gonna throw a dug in here. When I first started training dug years ago, I saw a dug, I first met Brianna, maybe that's his daughter, maybe a year after I think I was training him. And I never seen a person as parent as well as dug does.

Like the guy just, he communicates so well on the level of patience that he demonstrates with his kid is just insane. Like I have a, you know, I try to be a good parent too, but I could definitely lose my temper, I can definitely be short. And so I remember early on, watching Doug, parent, his daughter,

in a way that was just super patient, super calm, like intelligent, loving, and I was like, well, this guy's like, I gotta learn to be more like that, cause I tend to lose my temper a little bit too often, and I still watch him, I still watch him as a dad, and I still blown away, like this guy never. Well, I think it's important to note too,

how he took Brianna on too, cause that was one of the things that blew me away. Oh, it's crazy. I just assumed that like, that's like, came from him, right? That just child was his child that he had Treats her if you if you mind it mind me sharing that no, it's not his it's not his daughter He was dating someone who was pregnant and they had the baby and Doug fell in love with the kid and broke up with

The mom so he's not even with her now most men Most people and would be like I'm'm outta here, I'm not gonna, I'm just not my kid, I don't need to take care of the situation. Shit, a lot of dads do that when they are the parent. Or when they've been around their kid for years. Doug fell in love with the kid and is like, man, I love this kid, I'd like to stick around

if that's okay. And because he's a total value ad, and let me tell you, your ex really won out, not that she's a terrible person, I don't know her, but to find someone like you who's willing to step in, I mean, just incredible. So watching Doug parent like that was awesome for me to watch.

And I try to do that. I try, I find myself doing that. I'll see someone do something, and then they become my mentor without even realizing. I just observe and watch. And so that's what's been cool about doing this with you guys. And then of course with the guests that we have, we have guests that come on the show,

that one way or another are pretty remarkable. So when I get to spend two hours with them, like they don't even know it, but I'm like, just, we're taking a step from them. Exactly, I'm like, what can I take from this person and learn? Because if you do that with life, I tell you what, man, it's pretty amazing.

You gotta have a little bit of humility to admit that you can learn from someone else, first of all. So if you think you're awesome, and you know everything, well then forget it's not gonna happen. It's not getting anywhere. No, but if you meet someone and you admit to yourself like that person is a better parent than me in this particular aspect, or that person,

you know, they seem to be calm under pressure. Better than I am in that situation or that person can handle challenges in adversity, you know, more readily than I do, especially in those situations. So when you observe that, then say, okay, cool, how can I learn from this person? And when you do that, it's pretty fucking awesome.

So I would go as far to say that this group of guys is the most confident humble men that I've ever worked with them up. And actually, you could even throw some of our, you know, outside of this, the four of us and our team are some of the most confident yet humble people I've ever been around. It's and it's rare to get that that mix, right? So confident that you know what you can accomplish by yourself, but then humble enough to work as a team with others and let others lead at certain times.

You just really rare, really, really rare to find that. And I've worked with a lot of a lot of people. It's also challenging. I'll tell you something right now. You know, people might think like, oh, cool, I'm gonna work with a bunch of growth-minded, it's not easy. Actually, it's the hardest because it challenges each other.

Because if you don't grow, you're left in the dust. You know what I'm saying? Like, you're the weak link and nobody wants to be the weak link. No, so you're like, fuck, okay, well I guess I better, like, up my game and it's not just about work, it's about everything, right? How you behave, how you, the things you learn learn the things you try to bring to the show or whatever So it's it's it's fun. It's challenging. It's fun. I wouldn't trade it for anything world

That's for sure, right next question is my life is atoms. Oh, okay Is that right Since you guys advocate such a holistic approach towards fitness and diet What are your thoughts on natural healing? So since you guys advocate such a holistic approach towards fitness and diet, what are your thoughts on natural healing? Do you believe in these conspiracies about natural ways cancer or other deadly diseases are healed? So before it, Sal gets all science, he maybe he can, and maybe he can speak to what I'm

going to talk about. I had this, I've had this different view about taking care of the body ever since I got into marijuana. When I first got into growing, I didn't fucking know anything. I don't have a green thumb on it. So what do I do? I go to the local bookstore and I just start reading, you know, trying to figure this all out. And quickly, I was drawn to it because there are so many things that have parallels to the body as far as like the three major macronutrients for the body to grow and strengthen are similar to like what the plant has. And so I became very fascinated with this and started to go deeper and deeper. I became what you would call like a master grower. Like it was really good at what I did for

a short of a time that I was doing it. But one of the things that fascinated me the most that I learned about the plant that made me kind of go back to the body and go like, oh, I wonder if our bodies are a lot like this. And that was, you know, those that are familiar with, you know, growing anything, you know, you worry about things like spider mites over giving too much nutrients, not giving enough nutrients. I think it's mold too. It's very powder mold is very popular. You have all these different things that can be attacked by caterpillars, attack the plant.

All these things can't mites, contact the plant. And obviously if you're growing something and trying to produce something good that tastes good or that whatever produces well or top notch, like it being attacked by pest is not ideal. And so you spray all this stuff on it. We've got chemical sprays to kill this, and chemical sprays this, but if you're trying to grow something organically,

you don't want to use these things, so you have to become creative and figure this out. Well, something that I remember reading and putting together was that your plant will never be attacked by any of these things if it's truly in homeostasis. So if I can maintain the perfect temperature, the perfect humidity, the perfect amount of nutrients, the perfect amount of water for this plant, it will be resilient to all other disease and pests and some natural defenses.

Right. And so I remember that kind of this light bulb going off when I was learning that about the plants and thinking, like, I better bodies are not that much different. I bet if we would learn to just keep it in its optimal place as far as like feeding it nutritionally and taking care of it rest wise and strength and all these other things that build this resilient body.

If I was optimizing all that, I wonder if my body would be attacked by these diseases that we can't figure out. So that's just a wild thought that I personally... It's not wild, that's true. That's 100% true, man. That, look at, your body is invaded by viruses and bacteria every single day.

You have cancer cells present in your body right now. Okay? Everybody does. But your immune system in your body clamped down or those cancer cells present in your body right now. Okay? Everybody does. But your immune system in your body clamped down or those cancer cells kill themselves because your body's working the way it should. Right, you filter yourself out. Your immune system kills bacteria or it kills those,

you know, a healthy body is actually pretty amazing. It's actually a frickin' miracle that we're sitting here talking right now and we're not already dead. So it's pretty amazing. As far as spontaneous healing is concerned, or natural healing, that is a documented fact. There are many cases you could look it up

where, and they call it spontaneous healing because we don't know what the cause is, but people will go in with a cancer. That's like, oh, it looks like your terminal, breast cancer spread everywhere, and for whatever reason it goes away. It just goes away. They call it spontaneous healing

because we don't know what's causing it, but something caused it to happen, and then something caused it to go away. Now, do I think you can will your body to grow back a leg? Probably not, but then again, I don't think there's anybody's ever been able to really harness their bodies, systems willingly ever where they fully have control. Now there are examples

of like monks who they'll go and meditate, make it in the snow for hours, not freeze to death. There's, you know, Wim Hof, who's done ridiculous feats with his body. You can do quite a bit with your body when you, if you know how to work with it and manipulate it. So, what are my thoughts on natural healing? I think personally, I definitely think there's, it's probably, it's the most powerful thing that you can harness, but it's also the most difficult thing

to harness. Yeah, I think that we're just now kind of visiting a lot of ancient practices that, you know, they had a lot of effort in the direction of like your Wim Hof's and people that were trying to tap into the natural process of how to learn how to accept it. I mean, it's been around forever.

We're finally starting to come in. Well, I mean, it incorporated with like Western thinking. So I think that yeah, the word conspiracy, I mean, it all depends on like how they're presenting it, you know, as far as like, oh, if they're just doing coffee animals to cure cancer, you know, that's something else. Related back to the plant again, right?

So I remember dialing in my nutrients, dialing in the room temperature, having everything all perfect, right? So I remember dialing in my nutrients, dialing in the room temperature, having everything all perfect, right? So my plant shouldn't be attacked. And then also, I'd run this cycle through and fuck, I get mull. And then I start diving into like, where was my humidity and what was happening?

I was like, oh shit, you know, it was during the nights, I was allowing it to drop too much. And so I make that one adjustment. And then the very next cycle of plants, same same genetics same everything they've been passed on no problems whatsoever was that miraculous you know was it something's no it was like it was something that my body my plants needed or that I was abusing or overdoing or whatever and that one little adjustment all said made change. That the problem is it's so complicated with humans because it's not just about like with a plant you have these controllables, right, that you can do. With the human, you have all these controllables as well,

but there's one controllable that feels very in control and that's how you think, that's your mental state. You're like what you're thinking. So there's all control factors like perfect diet, perfect activity, sun exposure, sleep, like stress management, happiness with life, like exposure and environmentally. Like those things you can control

and those alone are very difficult. Like how many people are perfect in just their nutrition, right? Those alone are very difficult, but then you throw on top of it your mental state, well, how you're thinking, how you're feeling about things. I mean, entire religions are created around mastering just that and people devote their entire lives to master just that.

And many, if not most, ever achieve it. I think the greatest people of all time are probably the people we read about in history books and religions who do these miraculous things. Perhaps they were able to harness these types of things, but is it easy? Absolutely. Not even close. If you have an infection, go get antibiotics. Don't sit there and think, I'm going to will myself to heal because the difficulty of being able to do that is so high, you're probably not going to fucking succeed. And you're probably going to succumb to your infection. So that's the important thing to know, but I know, I tell you what, look, the placebo effect is accounted for in every

single study because it's fucking real. It works. Why do they have to account for a placebo effect in actual trials with drugs? Because the belief that something is working, actually many times causes a positive effect and causes it to work. That's how powerful your thought process in your mind is. Whether you think you can or can't, you're probably right.

That's it. So here's the thing, like what does this mean? Well, you know the physical, you know the nutritional stuff you need to do, you know about sleep and that kind of stuff, but how much time do you spend on your state of mind? Like that right there is, I think, the big missing piece and a lot of people's arsenal,

especially in fitness. In fitness, we focus so heavily, and this is why I think there's so many eating disorders and so many issues, mental mental issues and people in fitness Because they focus on the fitness side of it But they forget the the mindfulness or the the the they forget the mental aspect or the spiritual aspect or whatever I mean for thousands of years people as a spiritual practice was a part of a person's life and it was a part of a person's health And we've we've thrown that part away

But that's also that's also very important, like taking time aside to focus on that aspect of you can have far-reaching effects on your health. And look, science supports it. People who have those kind of practices tend to live longer and tend to be healthier. So no, I don't deny at all that our bodies have incredible capability to heal,

disease and illness and even injury, but I think we are completely infantile and our understanding of those kinds of things. Well, there's just so many, like you brought up. I mean, I was using the plant as a comparison and I know it's somewhat it's a terrible comparison because the body is so much more complex. Yeah. There's so many more, there's so many more switches, there's so many, so many variables. So that's the part where when you talk about like natural healing, well, I don't think that, you know, and the person's talking about cancer, right? So you have a, let's say we talk about a, or a type of a disease, right?

We have a specific disease that this person, well, this person got healed because they all said started eating orange peels. But does that mean like eating orange peels for everybody all of a sudden is gonna, like no, it's like maybe there was something missing in that person's life or diet, or like you said, their mind that changed their attitude and positive that did that.

So what I don't like is attaching some of these holistic natural ways to fight cancer and that into umbrella under as like, oh, this will help people, all people that have cancer. Well, maybe it may help that person. It's really about figuring out what missing piece are you missing in and trying to address that? Exactly.

Hey, check it out. Go to our podcast app, leave us a review. You could win a t-shirt. Also, leave us a review or get our podcast app. Excuse me. If you go to the app store, you can get the Mind Pump media app and you can search for topics and listen to specific episodes where we cover those specific topics. And of course, like I said earlier, leave us a review. You might get a free t-shirt.

Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy, and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Superbumble at MindPumpMedia.com. The RGB Superbumble includes maps on the ball, maps performance, and maps aesthetic. Nine months of phased, expert exercise programming designed by Sal, Adam and Justin to systematically transform the way your body looks, feels and performs. With detailed workout nutrients in over 200 videos, the RGB Superbundle is like having Sal Adam and Justin as your own personal trainers, but at a fraction of the price. The RGB Superbundle has a 430-day money-back guarantee, and you can get it now plus other valuable

free resources at MindPumpMedia.com. If you enjoy this show, please share the love by leaving us a five-star rating and review on iTunes and by introducing MindPump to your friends and family. We thank you for your support, and until next time, this is MindPump. your support and until next time this is MindPump.