Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 760: Paleo f(x) Wrap-Up with the Mind Pump Crew

Episode Date: April 30, 2018

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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this special edition episode from Austin, Yeah, special of Mind Pump. We just kind of do a recap, right, of Paleo FX? Getting fucking Paleo today. All the awesome people we met the event

What else we talk about our favorite gyms? We've ever worked out at getting into flow state We got Taylor and Doug with us today. We do Taylor and Doug were contributing nobody wanted to interview with us Why we're here in paleo FX? So we had to interview Taylor and Doug. There's no one here. I'm on my Taylor real quick We got the thing. We got an event coming up. Can you tell our audience what's

coast tour? What is this? We got we got we're doing a we're doing a we're doing a scene podcast. What's the cast or what's first? Who's first? For a clothing.

Okay. Okay. Open for people to go. How do you people get? Can anybody go? Is that the private? You have to RCP for the event. So you have to go to www.mimepumpmedia.com forward slash tour. You have to put the W. We're going to put that in the show notes.

Yeah, absolutely. So the show notes will have it. So go to the show notes. Select the city that you want to attend the live event for. So if you're in Southern California, it'll be at the Vory Clothing flagship, which is in Incinitas, a little bit north of San Diego. And then the second event will be in Seattle on the 18th. So the first event, Thursday, May 10th, around 630-ish and the second live event will be in Seattle at the mere flagship on Friday the 18th at 6 o'clock. Is it gonna be like a so obviously we only have room for so many people so if somebody it's limited so first first come first serve the capacity for each day. You say that bro. I was waiting. We were ready. Was that your life on the finish?

Finish all your senses, three. First come first serve. You guys take it too long. Let's get the fuck out, man. Let's do this. Get into the episode already. I'm sorry. They're hungry for it.

You know what I mean? I think we're going to limit it to probably like 100 people at each venue. 100 cool people. 100 cool people. Yes. So thanks Adam. Why is we're like, how are you? I know. If you're a part, if you're fucking nerd, people at each at each venue 100 cool people 100 cool people. Yes. So they had a wise.

I want to let you know, if you're if you're fucking nerd, you don't know how we're going to determine that. I'll figure it out. Don't worry. Okay. I trust you live Q and A at the at the worry at the worry flagship event, we're going to have some gift boxes to give away. There's going to be the the Mind Pump 25% discount code off of all the payroll for the entire evening. And then at the mere event, we're going to do Founder Story interview, open it up to Q&A, and then we have a very special product release at that event. No, I feel like I feel like you're trying to put like a little like a supreme twist. No, Mind Pump here. Absolutely not. What is the, I mean, you're trying to put like a little like a supreme twist. No, my pump here is not. But it what is the, I mean, is this going to be like a reveal all this?

Is this going to be something that like you can only get you can only get it if you attend the event? Okay. Well, that's what I meant by this. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So nobody else gets it.

No, we won't sell it on the website. We won't give it away. It's fucking exclusive. It's fucking cool. Cause that's what I hear. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And's fucking exclusive. It's fucking cool, because that's my hair. Yeah, yeah. One more announcement today, right? Doug, is this the final day for the No BS 6 pack formula?

What do you say? It's the final day. What do you say? It's the last day. Final. There's no more days left after this one. I got really loud there as well. He sounds very loud.

It's just it. Yeah, you're off to it. You guys, it's turned that one down. No more mules for Justin. Stop! It's so much fun. That's just it. Yeah, you're off to it. You guys, it's turned that one down. No more, my year down. No more mules for Justin. Stop. I still got my skin. Look, my ears up.

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Yeah, dude, you're like, you're like, Yoni, bro. I have a picture. Look at this picture. Yeah. Yoni was this synthesizer musician. Bro. That was like kind of popular in the in the 80s and 90s. And like, women in their 40s really liked him.

They thought he was really hot. I'm gonna blow your mind. Yeah, you're being sarcastic right now. He's fucking what you wrote. What do you mean, Yani bro? You know who Yani was? No, no, no, no. Y-A-N-I.

Watch. Let me show you guys something. Just Google it. Let me see. Did you make a picture of it? I did. Long time ago, I never posted it because is that the most sensitive? I'm just considering if he's my friend. It's one way to welcome Taylor to the podcast

Hey, he won't he'd seem reason why he won't post pictures of me sleeping anymore friend. It's one way to welcome Taylor to the clock. Yes. It's a sin. Shit. Hey, he's saying reason why he won't post pictures of me sleeping anymore. Yeah. I've learned my lesson. Yeah. I had to pull it down quick. Man, it's a family time this weekend with us.

Here, and this has been nice, right? We're finally getting to sit down. Should have a little bit. What did you do at great time here so far? What did you think about the response? Oh, here we go. Well, oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. Who's on it? Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh.

It is on! Am I lying? I don't think so. Definitely, honey. All right, absolutely. You didn't show me that. No? No.

That's money right there. No, you look good though. Look at you. No, that's fierce. Yeah, I'm okay with that. It looks fierce. It's because I used a bad pick the first one. It was terrible.

It was awful. I would never post a photo of you like that. Yeah. And I appreciate that. I want to ruin that. You know what I mean? So I have to get it posted. He just did like a mile threat to you.

Do you realize that? I was like, I would never. Because I have a lot. I have a lot of poses. I picked up on it. Very clear. Very clear. What did you guys think of the event this year versus the last?

Well, we almost didn't go, man. I know. We almost didn't head over there. We had what? I think we have seven or eight interviews lined up and a lot of our friends are over there, but it ended up working out to where we had so many interviews that I didn't know if we were going to be able to have time to head over there. And I think everybody felt like, whatever, you know, sure. No, I'm glad we went though. It was a good response there. It seemed, I noticed blue proof wasn over there. And I think everybody felt like, well, whatever, you know. Sure, no, I'm glad we went though. Yeah.

It was a good response there. It seemed, I noticed bulletproof wasn't there. Yeah. Did you guys see that? Am I tripping? No, there was no presence at all. They had a huge, like last year, didn't they have like an entire stage?

No, yes. That whole back section where all the main speakers would speak was sponsored by bulletproof. And then they even had like their own booth with all the vibrating plates. And they went all crazy. Yeah. And nothing, I wonder how much that hurts.

Is that because Bulletproof is doing, are they doing their own, you said? Yeah. Well, who do you think it hurts? Do you think it hurts the, the paleo FX? Or do you think it hurts Bulletproof? It's not her Bulletproof. No, no, no, that's what I mean. No, no, no, no, no.

I mean, I don't think it was paleo. That's what we don't want you here. Well, do you think there was less, I felt like there was just as many companies that were sponsoring things. I mean, I even noticed that the, like some of the signs and stuff like that were sponsored by people like Ben Greenfield was sponsoring the little name tag things that we had. Oh, okay.

They're trying to monetize every piece of it. Yeah, that's what I think. I think that they're hustling and making all kinds of money on it for sure. Yeah, but bulletproof, I was interesting that they weren't there. I thought that, because they were like, they've been a staple there forever, I think. I don't know about forever.

I mean, this goes back to, I mean, Rob Wolf in the me, for ever's a long time, dude. I don't know what Paleo is. Well, Paleo, listen, Paleolithic's a long time. That's a long time for sure. For me, it's around the dinosaur. The first Paleo convention. Rocks. What I thought what I thought was cool was when Sal and I went to L.A. last year, it was it was cool. We went without just

so much better. Well, let me tell you. Let me tell you the difference. When Sal and the other guy didn't make it. I'm so glad you made your name tag that you know how many comments you got on that was so great. I was trying to be all like slide like subtle about everybody's side. But that was what I was saying about going BNNA LA was that you guys didn't get a chance to see the response in LA and that was the first time that we had gone somewhere and seen that kind of response.

And what I mean by that, what I think has been really cool and what I've noticed is and I hate fucking saying fans and things like that because I don't feel like we have fans. I think we have people that we have impacted their lives in a way that they want to let us know. And that shit's really, it's fulfilling on another level that I didn't realize would be because I thought for sure, here we are at a fitness expo in LA when Sal and I went, and we got this line of people that are waiting to talk to us,

I'm thinking I'm gonna get, I'm like, you know, there's part of me, I'm not lying, or it's thinking like I'm gonna get all these macro questions and people are gonna ask me a bunch of fitness stuff, really, right? And it wasn't like that at all, you know, almost everybody that was in line wanted to tell us how much we've helped them or share what's going on in their Relationship and stuff like that.

Dude yesterday was was great. We were at the convention yesterday and we're Seeing all these people were seeing all these people recognize this for having all these great conversations On the way out I turn around because Justin wasn't next to me anymore and there was a off-coordinated corset or any whatever, as a young lady talking to him and she was crying and I'm like, what? So I walk over there and she tells us that, I mean, I guess she had some health issues a long time ago and she felt very alone and mind-pump, she said, was the thing that really helped her through the whole thing. And she was crying and, you know, we all got emotional listening to this. I mean, it was, it was crazy. I've never experienced things like this.

I've never. Yeah, and I know it's funny because it kind of ran into her today and it was, you know, she was a little bit like, oh, I'm sorry. I came, you know, forward with, you know, with that right away. But I was like, it was so real that real that I didn't really know what to do. I just hugged her and was like, it was so contagious. I told you guys a long time ago, somebody's like, right next to me and crying, it affects me. I'm like, good to justify it. That wasn't fucking, that was a cry.

That was a cry. I was crying. I'm just gonna say it. I cried, cried that day. It was good. Good for you. Oh my God, it was like, I'm like, what a pussy, why is he crying?

I'm just kidding. No, it was a powerful story. No, it was a powerful story. No, bro, I don't know. Like I've never heard somebody, like if our words had, you know, got through to them like that, like impacted them in that way.

Like because we're just talking and bullshitting to each other all the time and we just don't see these people that are listening. No, it feels like it's a responsibility. I feel like we have a responsibility to make sure that what we say is helpful and accurate and that we stay true to what the reason why we started the show. That's a scary thought. And I hear that. Well, we can't mean, we're not obviously nobody's perfect. But when you hear something like that, it's like, man, this is this is pretty crazy. Really awesome. Yeah. It was a pretty cool feeling. Yeah, it's definitely my fans get to interact with you guys. I mean that that's To me is something that is neat because you you know you get to hear the podcast and this is what I was talking about

There's a lot of parallels between Music and podcasting right and this is where your fans get a chance to interact with you Can we call them our friends? Your friends. Can we change it? Can we change it? How can we change things? How can we change things? Because I just don't, because I feel weird.

Well, it's not that it feels weird, it's that I'm not interested in having fans. But I like friends. And I like people that I, I like being around people that I like. And it more than likely if you listen to the show that much. Where are you buds? Yeah, I mean, like you're listening, you're hanging out with us for a long time.

There's people for like two years. Adam, give me your phone. I've been hanging out for two years. I'm so intense. I'm so intense. I'm like, man, you know, so then I just say, well, we're not that close of friends. We're friends right now. Right.

Right. That close of friends. Yeah. No, I just, I think fans seems, uh, I know what I mean, I know how he feels. It seems narcissistic to me because again, in my opinion, I don't think there's anything really special about us that we should have fans, but I think that it's cool that we have impacted lives

in a positive way and I dig the fuck out of that, but every one of those people that I've ever met that we've impacted lives, I now consider them a friend. So I would rather think of it like, hang out with your friends or hang out with more friends or whatever, but the fans thing, I now consider them a friend. So I would rather think of it like hang out with your friends or hang out with more friends or whatever. But the fans think, I don't know. I just, and I think it's the culture right now

with everybody trying to be an influencer and be like a popular influencer. Yeah. If you do, influencer. I think influencer. Hi. No, that's not really my desired outcome. It's not to become an influencer.

I think we want to shed light on a lot of things and have some fun. It's an important responsibility too, because what you could say could impact somebody else. And so I don't know, it's very fascinating. It's an interesting position to be in. But I don't know, I tell you, this convention was, here's something I'd like to say about the convention.

I will say this. All these health conventions, whether they're bodybuilding or fitness, we talked about this last time too, bodybuilding or fitness or wellness or paleo or whatever, you have your people there who have really good information and then you also have a lot of the full, bullshitters, it's not that different from the bodybuilding

fitness supplement industry. I mean, I don't think it's as much money, so you don't see them as many of the, you just traded out water jugs and stringers for blue blockers and Jesus handles. Yeah, that's the only fucking difference. But there was some, there was some fans there. There was some, there were some, there were some shoes.

They're terrible. Yeah, what was that? I was just like, it'll make you your're terrible. Yeah, what was that? It'll make you your real yeah, I was like oh these guys look at Taylor and either like hey you guys are the shoe guys You guys should put them on like exactly like we wouldn't put them on dude. It's like disrespectful to our Parachute inside of them. I was like Wow, what a terrible business. Let me make you shorter here What a terrible business. I mean make you shorter here. Put these on. Oh, it's flattening to this, did it?

Yeah. Well, no, there was other things too, like put on this metal thing and it's going to balance out your electrons and do all kinds of weird. Oh, that pad. How about the pad? And a... That one dug and that I'm gotten the... Oh, that was uncomfortable, by the way.

Maybe the highlighted. That was the most intimate moment. Maybe the highlighted. I got highlight of it. That was the most intimate moment. Maybe the highlight of it. I got to straddle Adam. It was a beautiful moment. We don't go to strip clothes, but we do stuff like that. Yeah.

I'm glad that there were so close that Adam had to whisper in his ear. No, literally this close. If Doug had turned this way, I had to turn the other way because we'd like to hit lips and shit if we were to cross it way I had to turn the other way because we like to hit lips and shit If we would across it, so I had to talk to him like this like all right, Doug. We're out of here I wanted to keep you know taking pictures long as I could keep you guys in there like together You know just sweating it out. You know what I thought I was gonna show like making pictures to Adam So he actually gets a bone All of a sudden I grew by two inches. David's moving.

It's like sitting in a group by two inches. I don't like this. What about the vitamin, that vitamin shop component? Oh yeah. That was interesting. Yeah, they were giving out free vitamin B12 and B5 shots, which if you have malabsorption issues, you'll notice if you don't. So I don't get it.

Does this, does this company just, this this company is shot in the butt? Does this company just travel around and they sell shots or I understand how it's out of the out so I think with these places Or they're like like you guys just miss a high five No, I tried I was like the high five of them. I ghosted him So what these play you listen you're in my environment now, buddy. You're a cool kid. You're not cool kid out there. So the, my here, I'm going to talk to the real world.

There we go. I'm not going to talk to anyone. Sorry, go ahead, gentlemen. Talking to the cell. You never stopped. Let's make it all about you guys. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going.

I'm over interested in your story over there. I was just talking to you. I'm going to strike. I don't remember what I was talking about. B12. Yes, yes. You know, these tongue Doug was the only one who was the last one. I was listening.

Thank God we have Doug. That's what I do for your living. I listen. There are these intravenous, where they give intravenous vitamins and nutrients like Elkhana team for fat mobilization or colding for your brain. I don't know how effective they are, so but they gave us free shots, which is pretty, I don't even know if they put them in.

Drop your pants and they send it in. So back to you. That's true. That's your last drink. That's your last drink. That'll be hard. Sure. So this is why we don't put another podcast. I love it. That's your last dream. That's your last dream. That'll be our job. Sure.

So, this is why we don't put another podcast all of a sudden. I love it. What I'm interested in is I don't know more. How does a company like that, what I was asking was, how do they make money if you have to literally inject the shot into people? Like, what do you, I think they have clinics or they can come to events and give them to people in their charge money forms. Well, I guess, are they hustling just events because I can't imagine having a clinic that would that support?

They have them in a house. Oh, okay. Yeah, what do they like that? What do they like in LA? You just go in there and get like IV vitamins and ship. Yeah, so it's the same thing But if you let's say you drink too much than I before you want to I was them to in Vegas, too, okay? Oh, so if you've actually seen them before. Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that No shit now. Did you guys feel anything Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. No shit. Now, did you guys feel anything from your shots? Nah.

I didn't really. I did. Ducks said he did. Yeah, I felt good. My right cheek is still a little weird. But then right before that, and I had that fat coffee. So I'm not sure if that was what was causing me to feel so in it.

That was good. It's probably the caffeine. Yeah, I don't know. You know what I mean? But I mean, I felt good the next day. Give me nice little knot, my butt. Well, I know a lot of like nurse guys and firefighters that after they get drunk, they just say nurse guys.

Yes, nurse, nurse, nurse dudes, is there a lot of nurse guys? I don't know any nurse nurses, girls, women that do this. I know guys that it's like, yes, you're right. I know these guys that do this, where they party, hell of hard, and then they all hook up the next day and they're fucking good to roll. Oh my god, that does sound like a guy thing. Yeah, exactly.

I wanted to clarify that because it's dumb shit. Guys do dumb shit like that. Oh my god, could you imagine? Yeah. I've heard of it a lot. Yeah, it's more common than you think. Like as if you would need it something that would encourage you to go harder. That's like woofle wall street stuff.

Like that really. Or billions. Yeah, billions, exactly. They really do have companies that will do that. They're just coming up. Yeah. So I mean, I don't think it's that bad. I think you would be worried about it

if someone would abuse it because they know that. But it would be nice to have that on hand. I mean, I'd love to have it. Sure. No, there's nothing wrong with it. Yeah, I mean, I could see it becoming, like you said, an obsession or whatever or use it as a bandaid all the time.

And there's a lot of placebo that can happen from some of those. If you don't need an IV, getting in one doesn't gonna do anything for you. Yeah, I mean, it's if you need one, that would, I mean, your wife's a nurse. You can hook you up all the time, you want to. She could be our own personal, you know.

So, hydrate or rehydrate? So you've never tried that, and then kept your crazy night of drinking, and then in the next day, you feel hungover. No, man. But now my wheels are spinning. No you've never tried that in the after a crazy night of drinking and then in the next day you feel hung over. No man, but now my wheels are spinning. Yeah, I want you to try it. I mean, if you get the wife at home that could do, I just want to hear.

She's like a champion too of like doing the IV. I hate I hate it because she's always like, oh, that's such a good vein. You creep me, get away from me. You know, I mean, she's always looking at people's veins. That's a funny nurse thing, dude. I got a bunch of nurses that follow me from back when I was doing all my bodybuilding pictures.

I have all these vascular pictures, like fucking nurses all over the place. Like, oh, I cannot. Kissy emoji, do you know that? Yeah, I get the kissy emoji from all my nurses. Dude, I'm like, how about that? And then like the dudes, right?

dudes like that, like, oh yeah, nice veins, guys, and then the nurses. That's super amazing. What about Paul? Paul Check, man. What a reception he got over there. Oh. That's super amazing. What about Paul? Paul check, man. What a reception he got over there. He's killing him.

He was surrounded by people. I came up and kissed him on his ball there from behind. I wish I would have saw that. Oh, nobody got it on film. No, my favorite part is he's wearing these little tiny runner shorts while he's doing this class. Yeah, they're like, Adam, I mean, Adam commented on a short.

It's like, oh, you wear the long ones today or what? So Paul, he turns around and he hikes them up and gives himself a wedgie. Yeah, like both cheese completely exposed for everybody is amazing. Just great, great glutes by the way. Oh yeah, very impressive. They're very impressive glutes.

Totally took what you did and took it to the next one. Oh yeah, that's why he's so great. I can't wait to interview him. He's all over the place now. He seems to be everywhere. I remember we first sat ahead on the show. Not a lot of people in our space that kind of knew who he was like the hardcore people were Kyle knew who he was Kyle Kingbury was a was a follower. I think took one of his courses. Yeah, but now he's like all over the place

What do you think the funniest moment was of this whole thing? Yeah, Justin on the pole was pretty great That was epic. I don't know what that was in his funny. It was just there. No, I'll tell you the funniest thing that happened Okay, we walk in to paleo. We was just there. No, I'll tell you the funniest thing that happened. Okay, we walk in Topalia we're feeling hyper. I hear Justin. He's like, oh, a hacky sack and he walks over and goes to a booth Somebody's booth and they had these like chairs these big Like bean bag type chairs and you pick it up. He started You know the footies I was nervous because I was like embarrassed. I was like, oh my god This guy I mean, I mean there's their little

Shinomite Lee just playing it like if someone came to grab my shit sort of kicking around Well, it wasn't guys explain like imagine you're there selling these little bean bag things guys picking up Five minutes were gonna fight You were pissed off. What a day. I was so embarrassed. Oh my god. Such a dickly. We're here for five minutes. We're gonna get a fight. Dude, I'm gonna kick your chairs around. You're not gonna do shit. It sounded like a great bit in my head. I'm like, oh, this will be funny.

And yeah, nobody rained them in because we were filming you. The worst part is I was looking back like he was gonna do something. He didn't do it. I didn't know. That's the camera's a dick. That's terrible. That's bad.

It's bad. it's bad. It's a good one. Is there a fifth year? Or fourths are fifth year going? What do? No, no, no, no, fifth time being here, excuse me, being an offender. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's our second time at Pillar. Four, four. This is number four. Yeah, yeah. What a great town. Oh, I'm proud. I think it has to be one of my favorite cities. Everybody's so active, man.

And yeah, I just love the energy here. I don't know what it is, but usually when you go out or just hang out, like there's always some riff raft you know, going around. There's not a whole lot of that riff raft, you know? I'm going to let a riff raft. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, let a scream scream.

Drops there. It's great. Good. We were, you know, it's great. You can walk downtown. You could never have what is what is that six street or rainy street? With all six street, right? You could never have a six street in San Jose, even though we have a six street. We have a six street But our six street does not look like that's history People would knife each other and just weird shit dude. Just for no reason Just weird shit dude just for no reason. We're selling the fuck out of settle there.

Say what was like all these sausages just, I'm just fighting each other. That's what Justin said. Just doing just, when people would guys fight you just picture sausages. I'd be cool if they were naked. That'd be a cool fight. No, I'm thinking about

you. He's at a sausage on the brain since this morning. You're the one that started it. It's not there, but I like all these sausages. He is your fault, dude. Oh, you're talking about it. It's a cool town. It's a really cool dude. The gym. We got to give him a shout out. Big tags. Big tags. Yeah, is that the name of the gym? Yeah, oh man. That's the business bro there So there's in this people who like are really into working out. We'll understand this Gems, you know, you have equipment you have like the lighting and layout and all that stuff and that's all important But then there's also an energy or a vibe culture did a culture and that vibe in there, man

And you know what you know you made you need a you made a point that you have to I think you have to touch on that I think it's important that people do not realize this we've been each of us have been around thousands of gyms right between all of us and You know people are very intimidated by those gyms because there's heavy weight getting claimed and Yeah, dude's taking their shirts off and fucking just metal and Yeah, dude's taking their shirts off and fucking just a metal and But then it's the crazy part is you talk to one of those guys inside that gym about working out or nutritionist like they'll stop their workout I'm gonna tell you something right now 100% super nice you go to your local

Fricking corporate gym you name it, you know crunch 24-hour fitness whatever and if you go in there and you need help Or you're doing something wrong wait and see how long it takes until someone comes out to you. They won't. No one's gonna help you. People are gonna laugh at you or maybe don't do anything or whatever, but you're by yourself essentially.

You go into a place like this that's hardcore. Those people treat it very seriously, but not in a bad way. In the sense that if you're a beginner and you go in there and you're doing an exercise, people will help you out. If you have a question, they'll take their time to help you.

Everybody's super friendly. Everyone's gonna shake your hand. Hey, welcome to the gym. Sharing equipment, whatever you out. If you have a question, they'll take their time to help you. Everybody's super friendly. Everyone's gonna shake your hand. Hey, welcome to the gym. Sharing equipment, whatever. It's a great, great, great environment. But it's also got that like, like you want to work out hard in there. Yeah, there's nothing else to do, but work out.

That's what I love about it. You got rid of all the distractions and all the fluff. It's like, if you're there, like what are you doing? Dude, the old equipment that they had in there was so, did you guys see the leg extension? Yeah. Why is it that the clothes that's old as hell and it's rickety is like more appealing, you know?

I don't, maybe it's because, I don't know. Well, you know, I mean, maybe because we grew up on equipment like that, maybe you can. Probably. See, I think there's something about those, like grit, almost all the machines and the pads for the benches and things like that are the best when they're broken in. I mean, it's hard leather.

And when those things are like 30 years old So that they have cracks in them. It's like shaped to the your low back and your head so it's like literally Yeah, I contour that's what I love when I get into it. It's like it's all it's like a good pair of shoes That have been worn in really good or a pair of jeans. You know some bad asses have been doing some some some That's what I was gonna say. Yeah, you're following in the footsteps of that's what I was gonna say It's almost like the equipment has its own like spirits or history and you're in there and you're looking at it and you're like, fuck, I wonder how many people did,

you know, leg extensions on this freaking 1984. I just think it's funny because it's a typical gym that an average female client that I know I've trained. Would be scared of. Would be scared of. But that would be the best place to work out. Right, where she would actually be more accepted, probably help more and respected.

Yeah, helped helped I mean Taylor You're somebody who already hates the gym that gym life as it is well hold on it's like you've been in a lot of gyms with us How was that environment compared to the others? I mean it was where they're filming and shit but it had a good Jab You're on the mics for five minutes already throwing You're on the mics for five minutes already throwing jabs. Yeah, I was like, ooh, what are you doing? What are you doing? No, it was cool.

No, but I mean, because when we're in there, we're setting up cameras and stuff. They were, the owners were super nice, super nice. And everybody was super hospitable. And it was just, you could feel it. And that's part of the reason I never like, you know, when I would go work out with Mani, he'd always want to go to goals.

I'm like, bro, I can't go there. I can't go there. I can't go there. You don't like to vibe there. No. It's not welcome. It's got that pretentious vibe. I don't need, I already know, I already don't know what I'm doing.

I don't need to like feel worse about it. You know what, though, that's the difference between, because goals is a serious gym too. Typically, not always, we went to another one that was seemed like a 24-finals, very strange. But but goals is typically, if it's a serious, you know, pretty good one. You have a lot of bodybuilders that work out at golds, typically. And the bodybuilding culture is different than powerlifting.

It's different than the strengths athlete culture. Way more nice. Is that a powerlifting gym? No, it's, there's bodybuilders and stuff that work out there too, but it's definitely, I mean, it's got a frickin powerlifting. What is that? The hoist or whatever machine?

It's, it'll be more known for powerlifting. It's definitely, you know, you've got powerlifters and strength athletes in there. But you saw like a little bit of everybody there. You saw like beginners and you saw the really advanced people. Everybody blended in real-nice. And it's student athletes.

Yeah, there was powerlifters, bodybuilders. It was a lot of people. I think it was just that they collectively had like all those different cultures combined in one. But yeah, definitely powerful. Here's the thing, if you're a strength athlete and you walk around like you're a fucking badass, at some point you're gonna get buried by a squat

or some dude's gonna outlift you. So your ego isn't as fucking, bodybuilders can be a little different, you know, about the way they look and it's about the show and all that stuff and it's a different vibe. I don't like them. No.

There's some cool ones too, though. Let's get these periods. We work with one. Wait, one of them got your check every week. It's you know what though? It's true though. It is. I mean, you're talking about a a sport that is based on your looks. Yeah, I mean, it couldn't. It's can't get more narcissistic than that, right? So it's rare that you find someone who's not and it's, and so I, I have empathy because I, I know that I fell into it at a much older, wiser part of my life where I could see, could consume people and I, I watched it consume people.

I can see people getting caught up in it and, and so it does kind of drive it feeds and ego and so I can, I can get it, I understand. And so, and I think a lot of them don't mean to be that way. I think they're so self-indulged that you don't really pay attention to where I feel like the power living community, like if you're somebody who has...

Just a strength world, they can't do a strategy. Well, if you're somebody who's a badass, like a badass in the strength world, right? You've worked for many, many years to get up to that whatever that weight is. Your appreciation for the grind and the struggle and everything like that is a little bit different. It's different. And I think that seeing a new person come in

and like just getting started and not knowing what they're doing, like you want them to like, to break through. And like you want them to know that like, it's a long road, you know, I didn't just start lifting 700 pound deadlifts just yesterday and you know, put it, I think that you get that kind of a vibe from a gym that you know, it reminds me of, it reminds me of like the one I would do, you know, study Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.

You know, there's people definitely with big egos that would want to do Jiu Jitsu because they want to be tough, they want to kick someone's ass, but you're a humble very quickly. Like everybody's humbled in Jiu Jitsu because at some point you get your ass kicked and the way you get your ass kicked is you either give up, which is literally saying, you beat me, or if you have a really bad ego, you get your arm broken and you don't come back or you get put to sleep and you get embarrassed

or something like that. So it's just, your ego gets checked a lot. And instead of like, you know, when people are working out just for appearance, like it's like, you know, I look better than you and we're gonna walk around, we're gonna feel like, empower lifting or strength sports. It's subjective. for appearance, like, it's like, you know, I look better than you, and we're gonna walk around, we're gonna feel like, in powerlifting or strength sports.

It's subjective. Yeah. With that, it's subjective. Strength sports you either lift it or don't. You're either a strong motherfucker or you're not, where it's a lot of people acting like they're a badass. And it doesn't matter what you look like. Right.

At all. In fact, it's all about what you can do. It has nothing to do with what you look like. You can look, in fact, if you looked awesome, you couldn't lift shit, they would be good. And so because of that, I think it fosters different versus a lot. It fosters different personalities,

but that being said, I've definitely met plenty of really good fucking dudes. Yeah, I gotta say that's true. Yeah, no, there's some fucking, I mean, Ben Pekolsky, good buddy of ours. I mean, you got a lot. I mean, and I know you like him. I like Arya.

Yeah, Arya, super cool. Yeah, another super, super cool guy. Yeah, no and I know you like him. I like Arya. Yeah, Arya. Super cool. Yeah, another super super cool guy. Yeah, no, I think we've definitely attached herself to guides guys in that world that are really, really cool. What's your favorite gym ever that you've ever worked out in? If you had to name one. Ever ever? Ever ever that you've ever worked out in?

Ever ever? That Reno one's one of my favorite. That's your, that's one of your favorite gym. No, yeah, that's one of your favorite Jim yeah that's that's one of the first one that's one of the first ones that come to mind with the what's it called the Reno athletic club either that one I really like that was a typical ski gym is legit then the gym is definitely in the top for me yeah definitely the top for me but number one is a tough one because I have a I have an affinity for the old the old 24 fitness on park more which used to be a golds gym only because I worked out

there at a relatively young age. So I have a different attachment to it. So it just kind of brings back and it's got my favorite pullover machine which you don't find. I've had a lot of places and for whatever reason I like that machine. But think to think the other day at the big text one that's got to be one of my that's got to probably number one and Ben's gym I would say is to very close though because I love Ben's gym too Ben's gym if you want to go and you want to put those One two three and I don't know how it order them or it'd be in the mood I'm in right yeah because they they both would they all feed different things like the Reno ones a little more plush with the Grass inside and the hill inside and the Section for powerlifting if you want or a section for machine. I mean, I really like the whole layout of it

It was a basketball court and all that so that's kind of a tough But if you caught me in the middle of prep and I'm like getting after it I have five business to accomplish. Yeah, that I would rather be like someone I want to be someone to big text. Yeah, yeah That's a type of place that I want to be if I'm fucking I want to be someone. I want to be someone to be a big text. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the type of place that I want to be if I'm fucking, I want to be motivated by the environment completely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In fact, in fact, we didn't even say this.

We were hungover as fuck that day. Yeah. When we were filming, and because we had to drink a little bit too much tonight before. And the vibe of the gym made us all, we all decided like, all right, let's just, let's just get it. Yeah, we're going to go this and, you know, have a good workout. So Taylor, you're pretty athletic person. When you go to a gym, what do you attract to in a gym?

Like what pulls you in to work out besides the women? What is, yeah. Honestly, it's like the way it looks. You the aesthetics of the actual gym? 100%. God, that hurts my heart. You're like the kind of the club one vibe or like the, what would you, like I would want to go to Equinox.

Oh, yeah. So you would like to re-know athletic club then. It's a little too much. Yeah, well that one's a lot. That's kind of bodybuilder is too though. Well, no, no, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know how to talk about every myself.

Equinistic, right? Yeah, I like how four of these are. We got nice dorshin. Have you been to court side in Los Gatos? I think I played, I used to play basketball there. Yeah, so it's kind of like a resort kind of is that what you're looking for? No, I like equinox. Okay. I wish there was one like closer. They have one in Palo Alto, but it's kind of like a really really The members just what about you? What was your what's been your favorite gem of all time?

I Think it's between the Reno one Since Adam I remembered that one. I think honestly, the big text one reminded me a lot of when I was in high school because we were. You were saying that. It was like almost identical. It's that it was like, you take maybe like a quarter

section of that gym and then that was like my entire workout, like growing up was like, you know, through high school. And then I would even come back and work out there when I went to college in Chicago. And I had this whole summer, you know, I would train with the high school team and we would just train in that same gym just because it was like, it was just that thing

where everybody just did their work and did their workout and everybody was there and everybody was super motivated. I don't know. There's something about that. You know, when you have like iron and you have old equipment, I love that shit. So I'm gonna have to trump the Reno and go with the big text. Yeah.

It's funny because we all have emotional attachments to these gems because I know I know how you guys are going to answer a fast discussion. When you see metal plates like like 45s or whatever, and there's a little, they're chipped, and there's a little bit of rust on them. Tell me that shit doesn't get you excited. What is that? How weird is that?

And I knew they would answer the same way. Because we saw plates like that over there, and all of us were like, oh, my favorite sound is the sound of multiple 45 jingling. Jingling when you squat, you know? It's got that body, that old school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. That's so crazy that you guys would take,

like, take or gravitate towards that versus, like, just brand new equipment. Or just like the baddest. Right. You know why? A workout is, well, we, we, it's religious, bro. I think it is a spiritual experience.

Yeah, that's cool. Well, you also, you also realize too that the stuff that, the stuff that really works that gives you the biggest bang for the bug is The fucking dumbbells and the barbells and so a great if you got and look at you see my culture You see me squat racks and deadlift platforms were inside that gym Must have been yeah, there must have been eight or nine of each throughout the whole entire gym I mean it was built six cast logs to do the movements

Tires stone cool. Yes, they had Atlas stones. I mean Atlas stones. They had the tires. They had the stones. Cool shit. Yes, they had Atlas stones. I mean, they had Atlas stones. They had a former carry shit. They had a boxing ring. Do they even have a boxing ring if you can do it? Yeah, very cool. But no, it's like I dug it a lot.

Yeah, I don't want to do the TVs. Right, let me see. You see TVs. No TVs going on or nothing like that. Like, yeah, no, the bullshit. If I see, there's days when I'm in the spa mood. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, I want to get all the nights going on in the spa. Portland. Right. See, there's days when I'm in the spa mood. You know what I'm saying? Like, I wanna get, oh, I thought I wanted a Portland.

Right, see, there's days where I'm in that room. I can appreciate all of them. Right, don't get me wrong. But for me, a workout, I've been doing this since I was 14 years old, right? For me, it's almost like a spiritual experience. No joke, like I'm in there and I lose myself more and better in the gym working out

than I do doing anything else. It's so meditative. It's so time stands still. There's nothing like being connected to my body, feeling what it's doing, especially if I'm feeling especially strong or if I have a lot of energy. And it's just, you literally, I literally feel like I'm unstoppable. In fact, I remember, you know, when I was married towards the end of my marriage, when it was very difficult, like if I did a workout, I felt like, oh, I think we could, maybe, you know, we could have a good conversation. I just feel so good. I feel like I can handle anything. Is that, like, flow state for you?

Definitely. I mean, it's not every time I work out, but definitely, I can get into flow state when I'm in a good training session. Oh, I'm 100% sure. And it's my favorite, it's one of my favorite feelings in the world. What are all the areas? I know there's a case, so I feel it on an occasion and workouts are that not all of them. And it has to be you have to really be in a rhythm. It's only for me. It's when everything's dialed in, right? I've been training consistently for a while. My nutrition is on point. Like I know it's like a great time for me to be lifting. I rested really well like perfect. Yeah, and I've already thought about my workout coming in, like, whoo, then I put my favorite playlist on and then I dropped right in.

To me, those moments happen. They don't happen all the time, but I definitely experienced those in weightlifting. I experienced that in snowboarding and I experienced that playing basketball. Those three things at the top of my head are the three main areas that I can connect with, like reading stealing fires, where I was a Superman, like that feeling that they explain in a flow state. And it's nuts when you think about it, like, because the best thing I think in the book describes, it's like the way time goes. It's a trip. It's you don't realize how much time has passed because you're so deep into it. And I think that's one of the best ways to explain this

because people always ask, well, what does that feel like? Like, what exactly is it feel like? It's like, you become free from your own neurotic thought process. Yeah, I think you become so present in the moment that like time stops and sense, dude. That's what I mean. You're literally, it's relieving because you're,

you get relief from your own neurotic thought process. That constant chatter in your mind shuts off and it feels fucking good. It feels great when that happens. Now the gym, the gym for me can do that. Of course, you can't leave out making love. If you make love, like real making love, that's like flow state.

Like there's like shit can explode all around you, right? You're in that. There's been time when I've been- That's shit exploded. Like there's like shit can explode all around you right you're in that there's been time No, that's a great that's a that's a very good again timeless right again. It's one of those things It's like we had sex for an hour. Yeah, you know, I'm saying it's like she's like no 10 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. It felt like an hour ago. Epic. That's true. Maybe it was.

That's the only thing. That's the only thing. Oh, shit. No, there has been times too when I've been with my kids and we'll be doing something. It happened in your sanity when we were hiking or sometimes even sitting on the couch and watching a movie with them and I'll have them both on your side of me And I'll just look at them and then you have this overwhelming sense of like euphoria That's like I almost like a flow state but a little bit different so the experience at them I've also experienced it racing in my car. I used to drive really fast

And I had a lot of tickets. How fast is a jet? Oh my god That's before. I think it is a governor on 80. That's it. He feels sad. Sal at like 80 on the freeway, like the flow's day. Dude. Can you do it? Can someone please get a picture of that?

Do the jet, I do. And then he's like a flow hashtag flow's day. You'll oversticker. No, I was a kid, dude. I tried to have hell of a slow bit more sticker. No, I was a kid, dude, when I was a kid. I tried to have hell of a slow nap, no one else could do that. Yeah, fuck you. That dad's speed is so strong. No, those are good, but it's obviously moments of danger and things that you've practiced

for a really long time, right? So the snowboarding, the wakeboarding, the sports that like I've been hurt doing and you could definitely get really hurt and then you've gotten good at it because you've done it so much. That's when I feel like it happens. Like I don't think it's like just snowboarding in general happens for everybody.

I think somebody might do snowboarding and be over thinking the whole process. They're, oh my god, this is scary, the snow slippery. Oh my god, I don't, my feet, I can't turn them. I don't know how to feel them. You're thinking about all, you're still distracted. It's obviously a thought, it's obviously a state of mind It's a good thing to know it's happened to me learning sometimes sometimes I'll read something and get so into it and get so consumed right

That's a good thing for five six hours late at night And it's that happened when I when I first came up with maps at a ballac, which was that was a very strange I was up till I don't know three four o'clock in the morning Just reading and reading and reading and reading and writing and it was very strange. It's happened to me a couple of times with that. So what about you, Justin? When you hit the floor? As far as flow state goes. Yeah, when I used to play football, it was one of those things like before game day,

you get this like this crazy, just butterfly feeling in your stomach and it's just like, it's the nerves and it's the realization that things could go wrong. Things could always go wrong and there's definitely going to be impact and there's going to be things that could go for me or against me. So I just loved placing myself in a physical state of uncertainty. Something could happen that had dire impact. I had to react. And like when I was in the game and in the moment and reacting and seeing like plays and how they formed and, you know, calling things out to everybody else. And that was when I was like, do sports super.

Does that happen to you last this last time you played when you were? Yes. Wow. I was going to bring that up because even more so, like the most I've ever experienced in my life. Because you're aware of it now. Yeah, that definitely, definitely. But also, like I didn't practice for it.

Like we didn't have any, like I didn't even know I was gonna do it. Like I was like, no, I'm gonna do it. This is sad. Yeah. Like I'm a grown-ass man. Like sad, dad. Yeah, like what am I doing?

Like why? Why? I don't really care. I'm not trying to prove anything. We used to call him a CBK's when I was a grown-ass man. Like sad dad. Yeah, like, what am I doing? Like why? Why? I don't really care. You're not trying to prove anything. We used to call him CBKs when I was a kid. Yeah, yeah, come back kids when they used to give you your guys. Come back kids.

Come back kids. Like you're that guy that's always like, I was the high school kid with the kid that you get the other guy that we used to call. We won the Chibi Chibi. The 19 year old, the 20 year old, the 21 year old, still coming back to our high school games. CBK!

CBK! Yeah. So that's the thing. It was all about this mission for Wally and all these other old kind of, it was like a has been kind of attitude. And I didn't share it with them. I didn't share it with them the entire time.

But I was like, fuck it, my friends are doing it. You know, like they're doing this. They're gonna be out there. Am I gonna sit on the sidelines and watch them? Fuck, my friends are doing it. You know, and like they're doing this, they're gonna be out there, I'm not gonna sit on the sidelines and watch them, fuck that. I'm doing it. You know, so I just decided to do it. It was literally maybe three days before the game where I was just like, okay, I guess I'm gonna practice.

So I went there, I was like, did you guys figure out any place? And they're like, we kind of have like a couple ideas and we went to to pizza after that. Trying to figure it out. Great transition right there. You know, I'm like, okay, what do you got? And we're figuring it out. And then the next day, we practiced again. And then our head coach, who didn't want anything to do with this whole thing, showed up the day before the game game and he was like, you know, gave us this little pep talk and he's like, no, like you don't really think it's a good idea, but,

you know, I believe in you guys love you guys, blah, blah. And then I was just like, oh, wow, it's just so weird and trippy, you know, that. But were you like super like the day before where you like, we're gonna fucking do this? Or did it turn out right when you played? You know what I mean? Was it were you going into this like, okay, whatever. And then I was like, a day's a cool still. Like I didn't hit me.

Like it wasn't real until there's this one. So sports are very ritualistic. You know, and Adam can kind of back me up on this. Why why why? Why are you and tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell tell Yeah, like so there's so there's this whole process. Which, think about that for a second. Unpack why they do that.

It's part of- It's to put you in the fucking thing. Yes, yes, yes. It is getting you like calming the mind down by doing something very ritualistic before you go into a sport that you got to perform, that you could make a mistake, that you could hurt yourself. It's like you turn yourself on.

Like a machine. It was like putting my arm around in a sense. You know, I was like putting my socks the certain way I used to do in high school, tying my shoes, and then I worked my way up. You know, it's like every piece you're like focusing on like, oh, that this, like, and then I put this on and there's like the whole process

and there's like, don't fucking talk to me. Like that thing, I had to like get in my own head space. Like like nobody could talk to me before a game. That's just my thing and like the rest of the team that knew that and it was weird, man. I went back and then we there's a spot like in the Redwoods. So where I went to school, there's this like really cool. It's like a national park like behind us. So there's like a whole trail and everything but we used to come like out of the woods into the field all like crazy. So we're all like, oh, barbaric and shit. It's so or red neck.

How are you? Either way, you want to find it. Either you want to find it. But so we would like, so we went out there and we're just, because we know the other teams already warming up on the field. And we're like, oh, fuck these guys up. Oh my god. Oh, yeah, no, it's like, you know, you say these things, but you really have to like, you know, the other teams are already warming up on the field. And we're like, oh, we're gonna fuck these guys up. Oh my God. Oh yeah, no, it's like, you know, you say these things,

but you really have to like, you know, get in that space. Otherwise, you're gonna get run over. It's like to kill the chicken space. Just to kill the chicken space. Yeah, I got the shark eyes. Did you have, did you have like a, school rivalries that you had like chance or nicknames or things that you gave,

you gave the other school and stuff that was like a hardcore rivalry between you and the high school. Do you remember? Say that. Is it that bad? Is it that on this podcast? We had him in ours, it wasn't that bad.

We used to say, oh, the pirates, so, should I say this? Maybe I'll give you mine first, if it's not as bad or as at worst that. So we go ahead, you first. Our rival school was Sonora high school. And we probably used to get so crazy, we used do I mean people would hide out so there's one highway to get from their school our school it's like an hour and a half from each other and you would know when all the all the all the buses were coming down to school and people kids from

our school would egg the fuck at all the buses as they come into town. You're coming into play us and there's there's this area where there's two hills are and just I mean I'm talking about like fucking to a point where it gets pleat it's starting to get police escorts because wow Yeah, the bus drivers are getting scared because of so many fucking eggs. We're hitting the bus and it's a holster But like eggs, but yeah, we used to we used to burn our logo into their field like so we would get our school And we take gasoline and we pour it on the fucking on the grass. So the next day when you do steal the mascot thing. Oh, oh, this crazy shit. But we used to say Sonora were the were the men and men and so were the women. Oh, and Sonora used to say that where Oakdale were the

men and men in the sheep are nervous. So he's are nervous. So you go to these games, do we go to these big games, right? And always, please everywhere, it's with that, because there's times where the fans would rush the field or the court and the signs, you'd have all the signs and shit like that. It was crazy for when I went to school like that. We were hardcore, because we were a small town. And that was like, that's all you had to do.

You don't say it was like you got off. San Jose has, you don't see that of course now you wouldn't see that Well, we were always underestimated because we're like redneck hillbilly whatever nobody school That's like way in the mountains that like I mean we didn't have a lot of people that went to our school We were a small school But like we for some reason we just pull this ridiculous talent out of, I don't even know where, and everybody had like the most insane work ethic. That's where we just dominated people, because, you know, there would be like times where we would run 100-yard sprints and then the coach would be like, all right, you know, praxis over, and we would stay there until there was no light left just running on, just on

our own. We just decided to do that. Wow. Thinking about how important that was to developing you as who you are today, as far as work ethic and things like that, like how important is that role that that happened in your huge impacts? One of the most important skills you can learn as a kid

is to work hard, sacrifice on work hard. That will take you very, very, very far. Talent, there's so many people with, I'll tell you what there's more people who with no talent who work hard who are very successful Then there are people with a lot of talent who don't work hard who are not successful There's way fewer way fewer people with talent who don't work hard who who are successful way fewer. Oh yeah Hard work is it trumps at all. Oh, no, I believe that hard work There's a saying that goes with that hard work beats talent that talent that doesn't work hard. Or what is it?

How's that close? Yeah, no, I don't know. It was close, right? It was close. Somebody will tell me, we're not talking about you. You're not going to be a little correct, man. Plus, plus work looks forward to DMs next week. But it's also empowering.

It's a growth mindset, you know, because if talent is not a growth mindset, talent is like, you're born with it. Like, you know, you're jeans or whatever. Hard work is something that you control yourself. Yes. And it's, and it's, and it's, it's a, it's a growth mindset. It's literally saying how much do you, how much do you guys think that exists? And how much do you think it's fair? Like do you think that we all, every, do you believe this?

Some people subscribe to this that every human has a talent or a capability to develop and be great at it. And just some people never do that. No, I don't think that. I think statistically you can see that that's not true. But I do think this. Oh, you say that. Why do you?

Oh, oh, because I say some silly that. No, no, no, no, no, no. It's the discreetly it doesn't. Let's wait a minute. Back to sub and fuck it up. It's extremely rare. It's extremely, extremely rare. Yeah, but what you're not factoring in with that is it's rare because there's a lot of conditions

that people grew up a certain way and they've now constructed this thought process in their head and they don't think about it the same way as you or I think about it. And so it looks like they have no talents because they don't develop or work towards it. I think that's a nice thought. Unfortunately, and here's a problem.

And here's a problem. When you romanticize something to make it sound like everybody has an opportunity and it's not being genuine, it actually hurts people because then they believe, well, I work really hard and why did I get in the NBA or I work really hard and why am I not a famous, you know. Well, yeah, but okay, but again, I think what people think is that, and I'm not saying this,

I'm not saying that anybody can work hard enough to develop a talent that they want. I know what you're saying. I think that there's some kind of a good talent. I'm sorry that's your fault that you worked towards in the NBA and you had no business working towards that because you're real talent lied in your ability

to public speak or your ability to change lives or your ability to whatever. You know what I'm saying? I think when you look at evolution in genetics, most people are gonna be more similar than not, and very few people are gonna be on the end. Outliers on both sides. And the ones that are really at the outliers

and we have combinations of talent and hard work, and that's where it's just, that's where crazy ridiculous things happen. Well, this is why I always trip out that you're not a sports fan, because I think there's the best example and expression of that in professional sports. That is the exact, we are now in a place in science

where we understand the human, even though we don't know at all, where we understand a lot about the human body, we understand about what body type should be playing this sport. And we now know if you start early, put the work in early on and work hard your whole life. And when that hits, when talent jeans genes, hits that crazy hard work, we see these expressions of athletes

like the LeBron James type of players that it's just, it's unhuman life. You see it in all aspects though. You don't just see it in sports. So especially in all creative fields, you see any creative field, pick anything out, whether it's writing music or creating technology or whatever, you have a few people that create most of the products. You have a few people that

have most of the patents. There's a few people that have most of the art that sells for millions of dollars or who write most of the award-winning music. So that's what you'd so there's a very small percentage, but I think my point with the with hard work is regardless of where you're at, working hard and sacrificing, will lead to a typically a better life of the process and the growth no matter what. No matter what it'll lead to growth. You'll be able to find that space and it's something that is useful, depending on what you're doing.

But yeah, you're trying to me of music. I totally forgot about music is being one of my biggest influencers to get me into the flow. Why don't you, you have a guitarist to steal. The guitarist. The guitarist. Yeah. No, like I remember playing.

And you totally get into flow. I mean, you're flowing even when there's not a guitar there. I don't need anybody. You know, it's just me, me and Luke, not Lucille's Veronica. You named your guitar Veronica? Yeah, Veronica. Why Veronica? Archie comics, remember that? Oh, is that that one hot. Yeah, oh, I love those my wife hates this

You and fucking Veronica. Yeah I'm just been some time Veronica downstairs. I'll be back, you know But yeah, I mean I I just like there's something about it when I mean I had to teach myself how to play something about it when, I mean, I had to teach myself how to play. I was, I had, I have some classical training in piano and then I just was like, I was bored, you know, I'm like, you can only play so much Mozart and, you know, not try and go to sleep. But I really enjoy classical music. I'm just kind of joking. But yeah, I decided that I wanted to play guitar and I'm like, okay, I just figured it

out. And later on that led into me playing music with some guys when I went to college and was actually in a band. And we were on stage, it was so surreal. Because you come up with something out of your own head and then you're playing it out in front of a crowd of people. And it's just like, oh my god, it was terrifying. The first time I did that was like,

I couldn't, my hand cramped up, like had all this weird like anxiety, like it was so strange. Like, cause the way that we opened up the show too was like, I was out there by myself. No, I pulled it off. Like the first few notes was terrible. I was like,

Kink or Kink. Like I almost lost my pick. Oh god. Oh, it was fucked, but yeah, I pulled it together, but it was like, itink or Kink. Like, I almost lost my pick. Oh, God. Oh, fuck. But yeah, I pulled it together, but it was like, it was the same thing. It was that sports thing. I was like, pull it together, you know, like perform, you know, do this right.

And after that, I was just like, oh my God. I don't know what it is. Everybody, like something about music, when everybody has the same kind of directed energy, they're like throwing that same energy right back at you that you're throwing at them with this loud obnoxious music. Bro, you're making music, you're harmonizing. It was like, I don't know what it is, man. It's like a group, it's the energy's ridiculous.

That's helping, I mean, you're connecting over something, you know, external. That's pretty, that's pretty. So, yeah, I totally love, that's's one of my favorite favorite things and to experiences just a bit to I don't know to to like have people like getting into what you're doing on that level. Did you when because yourself taught guitar when you play with people who are like taught like a fit like you know by an instructor. Do they tell you do it wrong or anything like that?

Does it work like that? Yeah, I have. Yeah. And you know what's cool is I've, I've, I know that about myself, you know, it's just like, it's very relatable to fitness where you're golf, golf is my thing, right? Yeah, I know, golf.

Speaking of golf, that's just so straighting. Listen, if we start talking about golf, Taylor's gonna be talking for an hour. Sorry. It's golf season. Yeah, we'll get to golf, yeah, for sure. We'll get to that next, but yeah, it's the same. Yeah, we'll get to golf. Yeah, for sure. We'll get to that next. But yeah, it's the same.

I actually decided that maybe I should take some lessons. Maybe I should tweak some skills. Just mainly to give me a whole new range that I can work with and figure things out on my own. Because I love when new skills open up new creativity. So I have actually like hired Mike in the 9th string guitarist. Mike, Mike, Genele, I think his last name, sorry, Mike, if I, you know, fuck that up.

But he's dude, I watched his Instagram all the time. He's just he just shreds. He's so good. Yeah. He's fine. Just like, you know, he is. I mean, I know. Yeah. No, he's actually been in the studio a couple times

I've been there when Justin and him are practicing stuff. Oh, that's I thought that was pretty cool So yes, he's teaching me some scales and I'm just working on things slowly, but like I just I'm so stuck that like You know, he he's takes time to teach me some stuff. How cool was top golf the other night, huh? Yeah How is he better a fascinating business idea. A fascinating business idea. It was like pulling teeth to get you to go. Well, it's golf. I didn't know what it was and I was tired.

It's winged up better. Yeah, well, I mean, I'm a drink skip guy. Hey, I beat Adam in the first game. Oh, my God. Dude, I knew I was never going to stand on like, Oh, man. Oh, he killed me in horse.

I gotta stop saying on the athletic guy. If I can't win a fucking game every time with one of those guys. I can't fucking say if I can't beat Sal and Tyler. Taylor, it's weird, right? Every time. I remember, do you remember when you nailed that shot in the studio?

Yes. When Adam beat you the car. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. We have a lot of witnesses. Taylor was there. I forgot.

You owe me a car, dude. It's coming, don't worry. It's coming. I was not forget that. I was halfway down the freaking entire studio, and we had this tiny basketball. Many of you think you have over a door. Blue my mind.

And I had like a little ball on my hand. Thank you. I swish. Oh yeah. Kobe. And if you make that, I'll buy your car. It was a one, it was a one and a 100,000 shot, dude. I would give someone a 100,000 shots again

to try and make that. Yeah, it was cool. It was that cool, epic. The ball and the 100,000 shot dude. I would give someone 100,000 shots again to try and make that. It was that great. The ball and the first, people didn't understand like it was not a basketball that was supposed to fit that. No, barely fit in the hole. It barely fit in the hole. And he must have been like a centimeter.

He must have been 30 yards away from it. And if you guys have ever seen South Row, it's fucking crazy. But it works. It's very much obviously. It's very much like a dark. Oh my god, we went crazy. But you know it's cool about top golf that I thought was cool. So we were all, you know, terrible swings

and none of us are golfers. Several Taylor Taylor's all pretty. Taylor's got a sexy swing. That's for sure. You're welcome to. He takes himself. Yeah, it's very, very. You're getting some female eyes on you. Why are we doing that? You're fuzzy. Because when he swings his ponytail, oh, shit.

Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Oh, shit.

I got a shot of him. Who can resist the whip back here? I got a shot of him in his towel. I love when he gets his jikita banana look going on. I'm saying when he gets the towel right there. Bro, you got to, you got to dry the mains. Do you bring, do you bring conditioner to the trips like this? You have to, right?

Because you got to take guys hair. Yeah, you gotta make it. Does it take you a long time? It makes you, it must take longer to get everything ready and stuff. Hey, did I get out of the shower in five minutes? Did I make that? I didn't believe it, but you did.

Thank you. It was, I would tie timed them. Well, I was, I shouldn't, do you, aren't you supposed to like not wash it for somebody because it's a natural oil, it's better. I think like they say like don't wash it for a couple of days. Yeah, that's what, yeah.

Let the oils build up, it looks shinier. My hair used to be, I used to have long hair. Did you hear that? Yeah, I did. Not this time. It was like down to here. How have you guys seen that, wow.

That like that Stallone picture of him with his jeans, and he has no sure on his own. So I recognize him in that picture that you sent in the group chat. Yeah, he's super beat. What was that? No, which one? I think that's a good look for yourself.

I was happy. I don't look the same at all. Yeah, no. Well, yeah, you're almost 40. I don't get this. I think I see my body weight up to 220 to 230. Just through sheer will, just a hot sheer food. You do this.

Yeah, a beefy hawk. I'm like, why do I have gut issues? I'm so weird. I have no idea. I want to get him back there, dude. I want old beefy hawk. Let's eat the whole pot out, dude. Let's do like a 40, let's do like a throwback, dude.

Oh yeah. If I'm not, I can't handle it anymore. I don't think it will work. I was so, when I hit it that way, you could just tell. I mean, anybody who's lifted to the point where you've been. What's the heaviest you've been? Have you been 240? Oh yeah. Yeah, I've been 240? Oh, yeah, okay

Yeah, I've been 240 naked bone dry first thing in the morning dieting like so I've walked around probably I saw you one time. I don't know if I ever told you this but When we were reconnecting and I was trying to get you to get back to fitness actually you know I lied You were in back in fitness giving into bodybuilding and I saw it star box and you were like the biggest I've ever seen You're just fucking monster. It's dead. Hey guys at point I got embarrassing I got embarrassed because you know, I mean it's like at that point I got once you get to a certain point where it's like yeah, he's taking steroids Stereoids are cool to take until people know you're taking

Yeah, it's so obvious. I remember being a trainer. I'll never forget like training a client. And I'm like, I'm like, I stand right now. I stand with my hands on my hips a lot like when I'm training with a client and I look up and I see myself in the mirror. And I've got fucking basketballs for shoulders. Your upper body was insane.

Oh, it was crazy. And I was like, I'm putting my hands down right away. I was like, oh my god. Everybody knows. Yeah, everybody knows for sure. Like it instantly, like paranoid like that after that. Like, oh, that's okay. I knew at that point, it was like,

how funny is it though that, because I'm like you, like struggle for so long to try and get big. And then when you finally figure out how to do it, it's so much easier. Oh yeah, so much easier. Oh, yeah, so much easier. Well, because again, and I shared this, it's what drove me originally to taking anabogs was,

I really believed, I guarantee there's a motherfucker listening, that's a young boss. Thanks, oh, if I just take steroids, I'm gonna do it. Well, yeah, or think that's what's keeping him from getting to that level. Like if you would have asked me at 23 years old, if I knew what I was doing training-wise and dining-wise, I would feel confidently say yes.

To the point where I'm like, yeah, I'm teaching hundreds of people how to do training. I know what the fuck I'm doing, you know? So I really did not believe that it was a lack of my program design and my nutrition and consistency with the two of those, which it was absolutely those three things. The biggest three things that ever changed was understanding the importance of consistency

within nutrition and programming. So it's not just consistent disease important. That's your first step. You've got to show up on a consistent basis and plug away and plug away to see huge drastic changes in the body, but it's also consistency with nutrition and consistency with your program. Knowing in the right kind of consistency. pro. And knowing in the right kind of consistency. Yeah, like doing the right kind of shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I didn't know that when I first started taking steroids because I thought it was literally that that all these guys on magazines that which they probably were too, but I still thought that that was what that was the difference maker, right? I mean, they probably, most of them probably were on anabolic. So it's not saying that I was wrong about it, but I was wrong about the reason that that was the only reason. Yeah, I thought that was the reasons why they could get into that kind of. Or why you couldn't. Yes. Exactly. And so that was a big like epiphany after I used to get my body weight up to two. I got up to like two thirty eight at one point, but I wasn't

lean. No, I was saying I just keep perfect. I was heavy, but my legs would get so big it was insane. Like my legs were rubbed together, so I had to walk like a duck, like one leg, you know, so I happened to need to. That was when I was like 235 and it was over a summer work. Would have felt better each other when we were a high school. Yeah, yeah, I'd do that if it was insane. We'd be hell of a hell of a pro.

A pro. Hell of a pro. A fucking and drinking like protein shakes. Bro friends. Bro. Bro friends. Bro. We've got to be hell of bro friends.

Dude, you think of a bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro.

Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. Bro. we're on the set. I still like every crotch of any jeans or anything I always just, it's gone. It's your dick.

I mean, I'm gonna say it, but, you know, since you mentioned it, it's a very big subject. Let's get on it. Yeah, yeah. Taylor, did you ever, you ever lift weights on like super consistent basis? You've always done sports, but what about weights? Yeah, I got up to 180. Oh, yeah.

Push you 180. Is that wether without the hair? Oh, that's what that hair looks like. But you maintain yourself pretty fit though because you stay active. No, he's an undercover rip guy. No, it is. It's true. He's what I'm actually going for. He's got the JT fit. You know, that's what I'm going to go on that program. Timberlake.

I remember that. I remember I said that. But did you ever lift consistently? I did. My best friend. That's how I met Adam. He's a personal trainer in like one summer. I just, that was like when business was going real good.

And I just had a lot of free time. We were just hanging out and he was just always working out. So like a byproduct of that. I just started to was like when business was going real good and I just had a lot of free time, we were just hanging out and he was just always working out. So like a byproduct of that, I just started lifting weights. And did you like it? It was, I got into it. I hated lifting weights. I never lifted weights.

And then eventually like I started liking it. And then I was like, I can kind of do this. The time in my life where I really lifted was when I was at the start up. And so like I would just work. And then I was like the only kind of like release, you know. So that was probably like where I was my biggest. Doug, you've been working out, you started a young age, right? Yeah, I think around, well, just after the time.

My brother was a dinosaur, yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. He was the cave men, okay? The cave men. The dinosaurs have already died. The dinosaurs bones. Right after the astral impact. No, my brother is six years older than I am and he was into weights.

And so we had some of those like Sears Robuck cement plates, you know, covered in plastic at our house. And with a bench, one of those narrow benches has the two posts and you put the weights on there, but if you take weights off one end, the thing was split off. Yeah, that's the two both ends at the same time. Yeah, exactly.

So I started probably when I was in, you know, nine years old or something, starting, just playing around with it. Really nine years old. But not consistently. Sure, okay, not consistently. So then, I think around 16 or 17, I started to get into it. I think I told this story before.

Rocky III came out and Stallone was so impressive in that. I mean, to me, that was the ideal physique because he wasn't like super massive, but he was like ripped and super symmetrical and he had wide shoulders. That's the one where he fights mr. T He goes in train. No, no rocky for he's big Rocky's my favorite for the Russian Rocky three. He trains. He goes to Apollo creeds Jim to learn how to how to dance and move the same one that he writes. He fights a whole Cogan That's right. Yeah, so I felt like he got too big for Rocky for for me

I didn't want to be that big by thought Rocky three was the ideal and I thought I could do that It's a whole Kogan too. So I felt like he got too big for Rocky IV for me. I didn't want to be that big, but I thought Rocky III was the ideal. And I thought I could do that, right? If I just started working out. So I subscribed to muscle and fitness. My dad was actually interested in working out as well, not to become a bodybuilder or anything, but just for his health. So he bought my brother and me a membership to this club,

and I started going down there with my buddy. And this is what 1980, like four or five? No, before that, maybe 1980, probably 1982 or so. Okay, now, and this is in Washington. Right, what is the gym like? What is the gym like in 1980, whatever, two or whatever? The one I went to was actually one of these kind of big box type gyms that we got set up with like a 24 or something like that. They had racquetball courts. That was the thing back there. Yeah. That was the jam back there. Yeah 70s and 80s right? Right. So we got a lifetime

membership. Of course the gym no longer exists. They used to do that. You didn't know that? Yeah. Oh yeah. Did you get a record? Did you play rockable? I did. I loved it. I loved it. Yeah, we got to do that. Yeah, did you know they used to do that back in the 70s and 80s?

They used to sell lifetime memberships and these gyms would open up and then they close and then states started making laws against that. So you do know why 24-Fitness charges $49 a year renewal after a prepay? Because of those laws. Because before that, you would pay $1,000 and have a lifetime membership. And then they said, no, you can't do that. You have to keep charging people so they did that instead. I'm crazy.

No, that's really crazy. But I think it's more because now it's not that it gets a charge of more. No, what I mean is they couldn't do lifetime membership. So a prepay became prepay and have a super cheap renewal. Right, right, whatever, right? Which is one of the greatest hustles. I know. So what do they look like back then?

Was it, the, the, I mean, it doesn't look too much different from what they look like now. Well, you didn't have, you didn't have plate loaded equipment. Hammer strength didn't exist back then. No, but I think there's some, maybe not a list. Not a list probably,

probably some not a list there. Definitely some free weights. They had the basketball court. They had the racquet ball. Wow, so you started off in a good track. Oh, so you just had a good gym right away. There's a good gym. So I had a buddy and he and I both were like

serious about this whole thing. So I did, I got my muscle and fitness subscription and I'd take a look at these workouts that these guys were doing. I can't remember who was big back then. Who are the big bodybuilders back then? In the early 1980s, Leigh Haney. Le Lee Haney. That's right. Lee Haney. So I figured, well, you know, what workout am I going to do? I'm going to choose the biggest guy there because obviously he knows

what he's doing. And I'm going to do his workout because it worked. And so I started following his workouts. I work out hard. I mean, I got to the point sometimes where I was bothering him, throw up. I felt like, man, I'm doing the right thing. And like we talked about it before. It's like I was doing four straps, every set. Bench, four straps. You know, you can do one more, just do one more. You know how common that is though?

Oh yeah, that is so common. That is very... Especially when you're a kid and you just want to feel muscle. Yeah, you think it's a thing you got to work for. You try harder. You know what I'm saying? The difference between me and him is he tries a lot harder than me.

Do you guys remember the first supplement you bought? Oh, I was another thing I was into. I was always into supplements. My grandmother used to get prevention magazine. And I don't know if you remember the old prevention magazines. I do. It was just full of supplements.

I do. And they look so cool. Like they would do these amazing things and I was like Eight years old looking at that magazine thinking it was the coolest thing and I wanted to buy those So yeah, so now I start working out wanting to build muscle I think you talked about was it cyber cyber genics cyber genics. I bought it of course I bought all these things I I don't remember all the names of them, but I spent a lot of money

And you know I didn't always have a lot of money But I spent it what I had because I thought that would be the next secret thing To take me to the next level and I was always so disappointed after taking it just like every morning looking at the mirror and going oh Nothing happened. Yeah, I think Celtic was my... Was that your first, first with Celtic? Yeah, yeah. I think I'm pretty sure that was the first thing that we... Well, you and you felt that because it has creating.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you probably blew stuff away. Well, and it was loaded full of sugar. And I was catching it. 75 grams of Depp Strux. Yeah, I was a first scoop and a do- Yeah, a mask- That was the first one.

Was that Celtic, mask cleaner? Mask cleaner was trying to think mask, twin lab had, it might have been twin lab. Yeah, and mask cleaner and I had creatine, like raw creatine. You know what's funny to that in? I put peanut butter on top of it and made a fart concoction. I think it was very cool. My first supplement was a weeder protein powder.

It came in a tube canister. Remember those? The tube canisters before they started making the big jugs. And it was weeder's muscle builder. It was called. And it had a picture, the weeder supplements, yes, him with his arms crossed, you know what? Looking all jacked with his mustache.

And I'd be like, oh, I'm gonna look like that, dude. I seriously thought I was gonna look like that. And I'd make a need of mustache. And what I would do is I'd take a scoop of that, I'd mix it in milk, I'm gonna look like that. I seriously thought I was gonna look like that. And I make a need of mustache. And what I would do is I take a scoop of that, I'd mix it in milk and they drink it, and it was seven grams of protein. It was a seven-gram protein. So you guys all wanted to look like real big at one point.

I wanted that was the goal. Oh, dude, if you could, if I could have looked like a Mr. Olympia, I would have, that would have been amazing. Which I now, I could never, I would never want to, not even close, but back then. Oh, yeah, have been, that would have been amazing. Which I now, I could never, I would never want to, not even close, but back then. Oh yeah, I know, for sure.

I don't know if I ever aspired to be as big as bodybuilder guys. I wouldn't say that, but I definitely, I'll tell you what, mine's more rooted like with the insecurities of being a skinny guy and like just getting into girls. So I remember like being a teenage boy and getting into girls, and the only thing I really got teased about was being skinny and so that affected me psychologically

because it's my way I look. And so I wanted to lift ways just to be bigger. I didn't, that's why I didn't follow bodybuilders, all the stuff that Sal talks about, which is ironic, right? Because I'm the one that actually competed, so everyone always talks to me, like I would love to talk bodybuilders.

I'm talking to me like I give a shit. Yeah, I know. I know I feel bad because they will send me stuff. And it's like, yeah, it's not my jam. You know what I'm saying? I know I can see. Yeah, I never was into it like that. I wanted to be big enough that the chicks thought I looked hot

because I was one of the buff guys. You know, I can take my shirt off and look good. Do you remember the first time? Oh, go ahead. I was just super competitive. And like, I have these workouts where you're in a certain weight class, like category. So like, I would, I found that out real quick that I was stronger than like the weight class that they put me in.

And so I was like, well, that means I have to be in with all these big, huge fat guys. You know, and like, so I ended up working out with the biggest guys and it just became the obsession. Like, I just wanna be stronger than all these guys. And so it was just like, it would compile off of that. I was like, I had to be like, I wanted to be like the strongest guy in the gym, you know, in comparison to these other,

and I found out later, you know, like, mass does matter, you know, in comparison to these other, and I found out later, you know, like, mass does matter, you know, at a certain point. But like, at that level, like, I was, I was like, oh yeah, I was like, addictive, yeah. I remember, I remember the, like, I worked out, so 14, I started lifting weights, it took years before anybody noticed. That lifted weights, because I was a young kid,

I was skinny, and I gained, you know, I gained a little bit of weight, but you kind of do anyway when you go for the specific. Is it a great deal when you're, so I gotta sell our boy out, and now he listens, right, hopefully Drew hears this. So I was so pumped for him in the day, so because I remember,

he's making them gains. Well, I remember, he's right around the same age, and there's a lot of similarities in his personality's mind, and so I totally connected with it when he did it, and I just, I died inside, but not like laughing at him, just like, oh my God, that he reminded me of myself. I would probably would have done some shit like this. And I just, I died inside, but not like laughing at him, just like, oh my God, that reminded me of myself. I would probably would have done some shit like this. And so he walks into the gym and he's been following maps

like to a tee, like he's been sitting. He's anabolic, right? Yeah, bro, he's, he look, how much weight is he put a listen? He's calculating everything and like, yeah, no, he's tracking everything to a tee. And for the listeners, Drew is Taylor's younger brother. He does a lot of our video editing. Yeah, yeah, so everyone's, everyone,

he's told is he 20, 19, 19, 19. And so he's been sending me stuff like crazy and he's getting on the die and he's doing all stuff. And I'm like, I'm actually really impressed with his consistency with it. And he's now starting to see the strength numbers come up. I mean, he's deadlifts in 250 pounds now already. And he's tiny, you know what I'm saying?

He's a little guy, right? And so he's starting to see it like already affect and change his body in the short amount of time he's tiny, you know what I'm saying? He's a little guy, right? And so, you know, he's starting to see it like already affect and change his body in the short amount of time he's doing it. And I remember that when I didn't really care that much about lifting. But then you see, and then you see the way it starts to change your body and you're like,

whoa, this is kind of cool. This is kind of cool. And then the first cute girl goes like, hey, you know, it touches your arm or makes a comment or you look bigger than all the other boys when you take off your shirt and the pool or whatever that first, yeah. So he had that kind of glow about him when he come

off and I still, of course, I say, I just fell on our, so I complimented him right away. I said, hey, dude, you're, you're looking fucking good, man. And he without hesitation ripped his shirt right off. Right off, dude, and gave me the pose. I was like, dude, look it, look it, it was so great. What was happening here? Dude, check this out.

It was so awesome. Yeah, like so good for me. I told you remember that feeling though. It's awesome, dude. Don't you? It took me, it took me, you know, 14, 15, 16 is the first time I can remember when somebody actually noticed, and it was at the the it was in high school

And it was hot outside and so I took off my t-shirt and of course underneath and head on my wife beater I could definitely finish that Which by the way I've been working out and wife beaters since day one. That's the original work 72 nobody is disputing that and it's the same You don't have to convince me He was telling me that really I like pro. I know I was wearing it back I used to wear I used to wear them to the gym all the way Just as like we know that style exists

But I'm in the classroom and I walk in and just my tank top and a girl and two girls came up to me like what? They're like we don't know you were so buffed. It was the first time I'd ever heard that. That's it, bro. Yeah, right away I was like, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Best feeling of her life right there. Forever that it's impacted.

First time ever. I remember when I was doing the morning workouts and everything with the team. And I was a skinny kid too, for a while. And I played basketball in the off season. And so I was playing basketball. And then I was always self- conscious to take my shirt off. You know, and so we had to play shirt skins, you know, and that thing.

And so I just took my shirt off and those shirt skins and some of the cheerleaders came in and they were like, and then they mid track, they just went and sat down on the bench and they all were pointing at me. Oh my god. I was like, what? What's going on? You know? And then after we were told live, bro, you're like, no, I didn't know. I was like, I'm be making fun of me or something down. And then she's like, oh my god. Like, like, look at your arms. Like they're talking about my arms all of a sudden. I was like, oh, yeah. That's what you guys are talking about. Hey, yeah. It was addictive after that. Yeah, once you get it, when you get attention for it, it's all about the funny part is that

we're all connected in a sense, right, with some sort of health and fitness, but I really don't even think that's the biggest thing that connects us. And I'm sure most people think it is because obviously we're a fucking fitness and health podcast first, but I think the where we're the most connected is where are growth, where we are growth wise as far as wanting to grow personally. I think and then the entrepreneurship side. So I think that's what bonds everybody the most and makes it work so well. Because if I think we're just all into health and fitness, you know, even if we're smart guys funny guys all this stuff like that in that space That wouldn't be enough. You just be your average podcast right right? Yeah, everywhere

Give another drink I'm kidding Justin you have been on fire at all I'm not kidding. Justin you have been on fire at all tire Tire trip it's Austin bro. I'm gonna taste one bro When we were when we had the podcast with Mike with Plesso. Yes, and you were just Justin you were fire, bro I don't know I think you were like fucking with ever said I had a little edge I don't know he the way that he kind of came in the room. It kind of set me off. I don't know It was that it was just weird. I don't know. What was that? It was just weird.

I didn't know what to do. Can you say the words? It was like a reaction to that. I just like, oh, yeah, well, I got to do something about this. Yes, we all kind of, I think we all picked up on that. Let's do something with this,

make it entertaining or something. Right. You know, I still, you know, I can't fully cosine him yet, man. I just can't. Like, there's, there's, we meet a lot of people in the space, a lot of cool people, you know?

But like, then there's like the MP family or the people that like I'm texting and talking to that I really have hit with, connected with, we've interviewed and just really liked them. So speaking of people like that, who's a new person, like I feel like in the Mind Pump family is Max Lugavir. Oh, fuck, I love him dude.

And we all felt that way already. And then last night when we're at top golf, oh, what a great face. We all felt that way already. And then last night when we're at top golf, what a great time. What set it off for me, and this is what I love, was he got up, we were, we'd already been at top golf, we're drinking, we're hitting, we're terrible, right? And none of us can separate Taylor golf. So we are toeing terrible in all levels, right?

And we're just making fun of each other and just having a good time in Upwalks Max. And I think I was the one who was just shooting last. And then I was like, come on, get up there. And he fucking had the balls to get up there in front of us. We're all sitting, taking pictures, videoing him and she looked at that. And you could tell that motherfucker had never touched a club in his life before. For sure. 100%. And the fact that he put himself out there like that and then and just had like super cool. Oh, it was right and I love that he does that well, and I saw there was a moment there for a minute where I think he was wondering like are these dudes laughing at me

Are they being fucking dick so they being cool about it? We're just having a good time and I think he when he saw the story and how shitty we all when he saw that we all fun with each other Yeah, right. I think that it he made that connection He's like do that's really cool, but the fact that he would do that from another mother dude It's so funny. No, like it's so many similarities. He gets the cosine for sure Yeah, good good dude max is a very very smart dude very very cool guy very real guy So and so is and so is Rusey. Oh great. Yeah, I always come down here with that guy that dude. Let me tell you, bro I always come down here with that guy. That dude, let me tell you, bro.

He's a small and fagger. He's like an energizer bunny, bro. I love energy, yeah. Yes, he reminds me of me and my friends when we were like 25, dude. You know what it is, he's a doctor, bro. When you find a doctor who's in their 30s, they've been studying and busing their ass for so long

when they finally start to work. He's made it. They're like 20 years old. Yeah, then you throw in the fat memory and talking when we're walking last time like and he's buffing good looking dude And yeah, I'm the doctor. Oh, yeah, I came over What was he was talking about we were all walking? Yes, he's talking about like how he serenades women and stuff like that I'm like, bro. I don't know why you know what the fucking do that like yeah, why even do that?

You're a fucking smart as doctorates's buff like I'm over tools you Yeah, like now you just fight dirty now He's an animal. I'm a doctor, and then we you know who showed up this year, which was great Ben Pukolsky came down So Ben's been so funny right now. So he is so opposite of what he was seven years ago. It's crazy. Dude, he embracing the whole paleo-esque. What was he doing? He had his shoes off and socks off.

He was doing balls, you're doing checks, a course or whatever. Oh, that was so great. There was a primal movement there. Yeah, I'm a groundless stuff. I love him. I love him. Right, right.

Another great guy like that, dude. I'm really, really good people. So Christina here, she's always awesome. She's part of the family. Little fireball. Peace out Christina here. She's always awesome. She's the family. Little fireball. Little fireball. Always talking shit. Yeah.

Every single time. Every single time. Who else do we run into that we like run into? Kyle. Of course Kyle. Barefoot. Yeah. Do you just do this?

Just do this. Just do this. Give it a hug. You know, you don't. You don't. You don't. You know that. Thanks for the cup check, Kyle. I appreciate that.

Oh, that's good stuff. Oh, shit. That was hilarious. That was a dream together. We all love Kyle. We're with him tomorrow. Paul, right? We saw Rob Rob. Oh, yeah, we saw Rob in the bathroom.

So I wrote a Paul. He's taking a piss. We saw some good stories. I literally, so Rob is peeing at the urinal and I know I recognize him because I saw him speaking right earlier the day and he, I'm behind him and I'm waiting for him to turn around and turn around and I'm going to use the urinal

that he's just finishing and I'm like, hey, what's up, dude? And there's this moment where I have my hands up and it's like, wait a second, what do we do here? We can't go as dick. We're the men's bathroom. We shouldn't do a hug right here. That's not right. He just was grabbing his dick. Hey, what's up? How do we handle this? Yeah, we just both gonna do this. Like, let me in. He walked by. Pass on the hand, Jack, right here, buddy. Yeah, Rob's always great to see. So we saw him here, that was awesome. We'll see, we see.

Let's thank Greenfield. Yeah, Ben. Oh, dude, how about the road rash on his face? What happened? He said a car clip, don't be. Yeah, I asked him if it was on film, and he was like, no. But I was just envisioning him, because he's riding one of those lame ass fucking bikes as it is, right there.

Which was the real thing. Oh, it was one of those lame ass fucking bikes as it is right The ones are like ellipticals You have to be a super dork to actually own one I know I insulted somebody. That's not something you're right now. We just signed a partner. Yeah, I put that. Yeah, damn it. I know I'm insulting somebody, but listen, it's kind of dorky. If you want to ride an elliptical, go to the gym, ride an elliptical, if you want to ride a bike,

ride a fucking bike, you know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna have a disagreement with the man in the back. Yeah, it's just too bulky. You know what I'm saying? It takes up half the sidewalk, and hence why he got clipped by a car. So he got hit by a car? Yes, a car car drove by and the mere clipped him and he fucking

Oh down hard down real hard. Yeah, he's half his face Yeah, then he went to a high for he went to it was yeah, and then it went to a hyper bear chamber He said to heal them faster. I thought a cooler story would have been you know I was trying to help him out. We were all trying to help him out I did Justin's like look sake. You got to, you lost that adjusting match. But then he went to me. I was like, look at him. Where we got injured.

It was like, right, you can imagine that. Like right there. Who said the most off the wall thing to somebody today? Who was off the chain? I don't know. You said a few yourself there, but really? And you're always the king of those, dude. I don't know.

I mean, that's enough today. What about what about with the electric pads? And I asked him if it cures treatment resistant erectile dysfunction? Oh, you would say Adam has it. Yeah, that was a good one. That was funny. Who else did we run into? That was that was neat out there. The event was really cool. It was better than what I expected. I mean, we would have probably not come back the second day Had we not thought that The you know, but it's it is it's just as pretentious as the fucking bodybuilding Yeah, you're still I mean how many okay? Where you go? What are some of the things that we saw as far as bullshit? What are the most bullshit things that we saw well?

There was was measuring my fucking EMF your electric something Yeah, yeah, like apparently I was bad, you know like you just they scan your form or whatever like what was that? That was just EMF like what I was a nation or something. Yeah, I don't know about you Been in the comic books that means you're fucking awesome exactly. I was shooting you were shooting off some shit off your Scans so wait to see my spider webs I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

He's a lousy. He's funny on accident. Yes, I was even trying for that one. That was bullshit. There was a lot of, there's always a lot of meat at these things, right? Let it let it let it let it let it let it let it let it let it. A platter of meat.

Powdered bone broth. That was a big thing. Yeah, I'm trying to think what else was kind of, there were some supplements out there, a lot of supplements. I can't, I can't think of anything else that was more bullshit than that. How was that? How was that sauna that you guys zipped into is that legit? Is that I don't know? So that was what blew my mind which I wanted to go back and fact check him or with our sunlight people Because I don't know the sunlight ones just seem a little more legitimate

He had my patents Yeah, we did Yeah, it looks like some ten foot we sipped up in some tin foil and there's like a fucking you know what it was? It's like an elementary school chair in there. They were saying it was like this doesn't look fucking like flexible oven made. Right.

I'm pretty sure you can run down to Home Depot and build that for like $20. Yeah. You know what it looks like? It's like sure. It'll get hot in there. You know what it looks like? Did you guys ever do the jiffy pop?

Did you guys ever do jiffy pop in your tin? Yes, the popcorn that you put in there. Oh yeah, yeah that you put over the stove and it makes the big foil thing. Yeah, that's what it looked like. So he was claiming that that was four times the far, far infrared Raised in any other product on the one and I asked him I said we have sunlight and saunas and what they told me It's the best so now I feel like somebody's stupid right now So I'm on a mission here's this song. Yeah, exactly what I was saying.

I'm getting to the bottom of this right now. I don't know, dude, I feel like yours looks like to be a little bit cheaper, it may not be as good as those over there. I'm just sayin'. Well, that's all, only far infrared too. Right, we have all three. So we have all three, yeah.

Mid-Far and near. Boom, boom, boom. Just dropped it on like that. Mike dropped. Shoes mid-fart and near boom boom. Just dropped it on like that. Mike dropped shoes were bad. I thought those were bad. Those were terrible. I still don't understand the point of them. To be to be more barefoot.

Yeah, I think I'd rather have brands that are fiving or something. Yeah, but these look like their dress shoes. Yeah, they're big dress shoes. I wouldn't wear that. Okay, so I get it now. So that's the bottom. Then their market is business men that have to wear suits every day that are actually paleo-s type people.

Maybe. They still want to go on there. Very niche market. It is very niche market, but it's there. You know what I'm saying? It's definitely there. I think the soy that people are winning that battle. They were trying hard to get us to try

I'm on to oh, I know and I had the live of them. I was like we'll be right back Listen this is groundbreaking. They were attracted to Taylor night. She right back. I'm like we want you know when I wear these shoes I don't want to be shorter how about the guy awesome. I wanted that shirt. That shirt was right. I was totally my flavor Yes, I guess what about when Justin through the spear Balance back even get the first one Dude, so I threw the spear and one as a Spartan spirit that balance back Yeah, they had they had hey and everything set up and I crashed it from this girl and through it And I was just thinking I want it to stick in there really good.

You know, I'm like, everybody's watching. So I just like threw it hard and it bounced and it didn't register right away. Like, oh wow, it's just coming back like hot. You know, I didn't even move or anything. It was just like, go go go. And then, oh my god, I almost stabbed myself in the shin. It was really close.

Really close. That would have been a good video, though, Taylor. Yeah, I tried. And then the next one, I was like myself in the shin. It was really close. Really close. That would have been a good video though, Taylor. I tried. Then the next one I was like, oh, just less power in the end though. We almost got in free to the food and wine festival. You did a good job, bro. I was proud of you, but.

I was actually, you know what? I was surprised. Yeah, they were able to, you know, stay away from your sales skills. Yeah, every once in a while, I got to give an opportunity, but. You didn't do well. Oh, I should have tealed right there.

I wonder what it would look like if I would have tealed that one right there. Nothing. We would have gotten arrested. No, you know, we almost got in. I don't know how you almost still do that while I just jumped. I feel like, I feel like if you were a bad person, you'd be a very successful con artist. That was very good. You were working everybody

that's it those security guard those are $250 ticket supervisor Adam convinced a head of security woman to call us in to try and get us in through the guest entrance yeah but it was this really it was just really it was this really old like patriotic dude who's like no sorry can't break the rules no matter what my day. No terrorists, not in my watch. I'm like, oh shit, this guy means business. You know, I want to go in there though. I mean, this is the thing that tickets are $250.

I feel like fuck. I think there's a lot of free wine. That's why. I think you get a lot of wine tasting. Is it like that? Is that what it, because he said that there, or she said there was like all anything you could think of like drink wise like everything there's just included Yeah, we would have got destroyed. I saw some videos of people there

There's something like they have all kinds of like weird like models They built where you you pour the shot down and like like mint drops. Yeah, we tried we tried to be like that Like so much more fun like that entire place is way more fun I'm sorry. We tried to act cool. We walked up and tried to get in with the girls that felt like yeah, so we're mind-pum media the way Go on I was telling That was I'm not giving up for now. I'm not letting that be like her a little bit It did her it hurt a little bit. I was like that's it. I'm not even gonna get it like oh

It came from paleo. Yeah, dude, I literally know love. It was really bad about that one. So we have a camera, we're in media. There's a camera as a camera. Like send us an email. Like, it's just gonna fuck off. Anyway, wow. Good time. You know what I actually would have liked,

and I know we didn't have the time and stuff, but I would have actually liked to listen to some of the panels I had because what I noticed they did this year, and I don't know if they did this before, I know for sure they did this year, but they actually had people that would not agree on stage. Together. Yeah, together. So I thought that would be kind of cool,

because a lot of times when you see these panels, it's like fucking five people that are all preaching the same message, and it's all nodding their head up there. Like, yes, yes, more sandals. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, or blue lockers. You don't say it is like me. It's like all this head nodding, say this. Yes, yes, yes, yes.. You don't say it is like me. It's like all this head not He said Yes, yes, it's like you get somebody up there that's like counters so we can hear like a good conversation in debate

So somebody could actually learn something and it's not this everybody's preaching that this is the way of doing things So I would have been cool, but there were some that were like that I wish we would have caught because I know what I would have done if we had gone to one of those with the We had where they had two people that were kind of differing and then they had there's a Q&A at the end I would have loved to have asked That would have picked them against each other. That's why I think maybe maybe What we do because I know that we've got a lot of people are starting to ask if we go up there and talk but we'll be better Is if we go to the audience we exactly we video going to

Going there and asking questions to the panel. Yeah, we panel the fuck out of the panel. We panel the panel. Yes. I know you recommend a lot of vitamins, but don't you have a vitamin company? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna get thrown out for the wine. That was close, right? We were gonna crack over the wine and drink the wine bottles. We had to drink it on the way home. Yeah. We were worried about that. Overall though, I think that this is... This was fun. One of my favorite times. Yeah.

It's been a really good time. I really, really appreciate anybody who came up to us. There's a lot of people that came up to us and said, Hi, and if you're listening, really appreciate that, because it reminds us of my custom. Yeah, we really appreciate you guys a lot. So everybody left super motivated, right? It was crazy. We were all tired from all that being all day, but then we soon we just felt this energy. Yeah, it was crazy. Very cool. It was a good time.

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