Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 763: How to Deal with the Influence of Junk Food Eaters in Your Life, How Strength Impacts Your Metabolism, Training While Pregnant & MORE

Episode Date: May 4, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about tips on staying on track with your diet w...hen your partner buys snacks and treats for you and always wants to eat out, what todo about changing recruitment patterns when pregnant, increasing strength's relationship with a sped up metabolism and getting men to understand the importance of fixing imbalances before lifting heavy. Mind Pump West Coast Tour Update! (3:53) Achilles tendon recovery update from Adam. (7:40) Sports talk with Mind Pump and the electric atmosphere of attending a live game! (10:07) The Magic Pill documentary review from Mind Pump and their biggest takeaways. (27:31) Breaking the chain. The mindset of catering to our kid’s wants/needs and their relationship with food/technology. 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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind, Pomp. RECK you! For the first 56 minutes, we have our introductory conversation. We talk about our upcoming Viori event. Finally, we're going on tour.
Starting point is 00:00:26 This isn't you think for us. We've never done anything like this before. We're going out there. What are we doing at them? We're shaking babies in kissing hands. That's right. That's about the right order. We give a little update for your babies. On Adam's Achilles tendon.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Not around Adam. And wash your hands. We actually do a nice long stint of sports talk. Wow. It was so it was so enjoyable that did happen. Yeah, I talked maybe my favorite my pub episode Yeah, pigs are flying outside right now. Then we talked about a documentary that we all just recently watched called called the magic pill You can see it on Netflix. It's a pretty powerful documentary about how food can cure many of our chronic ailments. Now we do mention Thrive Market. They are the largest producer,
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Starting point is 00:01:40 So go check it out. We also talk about tricks that we use to get our kids to make better choices. Yeah, we trick. Yeah, lots of Tom full of regal on here. That's an old term. Oh, yeah. Then we get into the question. Like, scream, scream. Like, you got me for the other day. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. That's the one. to stay on track with your diet when your partner is eating terribly. Like, what are the things you can do besides breaking up with them? Which is an option. That's, that's the number one trick. That is.
Starting point is 00:02:12 And tip. The next question was, this person's 24 weeks pregnant is lifting weights and is concerned about recruitment patterns changing as her belly and body grow and change. So what do we recommend during pregnancy and post pregnancy to deal with these different recruitment patterns? The next question was, if this person's strength keeps increasing while they're following a good program like MAP's and Abolic, does that mean the metabolism is speeding up?
Starting point is 00:02:42 In other words, if you're getting stronger, is that a sign that your metabolic system is amping up or heating up so you're burning more calories? And finally, this individual's been a personal trainer for about seven months, so they're a new trainer, and they keep having male clients that just want to lift heavy weight right out the gates. They don't want to do the correctional stuff, they don't want to work on proper men aren't usually like that.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Yeah, exactly, movement patterns. How do you deal with this if you're a trainer? How do you do, especially if you're female, they don't want to work on. That's weird. Proper. Men aren't usually like that. Yeah, exactly. Movement patterns. How do you deal with this if you're a trainer? How do you do, especially if you're a female and you have male clients who just want to impress you with the 20 pound dumbbells that they can curl? Also, this month you can get our fasting guide and our intuitive nutrition guide for free. For free.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You can get taste that, okay. Yeah, yeah. You can get them for free if you enroll in any bundle. Now we know summer's coming up, so a lot of people are interested in getting the leaner. A big, big part of that is your nutrition. Well, if you enroll in any bundle, now bundles are where you take multiple maps for programs,
Starting point is 00:03:39 put them together, discount them like 30% off. You'll get those two guides for free. This month only, you can find all of this at minepumpmedia.com. When's the our first event of the tour that we're doing? Is that the, is that an Ansonitas? Yeah, that's a week, right? Yeah, I think we're nine days away or so, Man, it's right. Next, there's it. So May 10th, it's the Viori event in insinit. You guys know I used to manage the 25th, and it's there for one month.
Starting point is 00:04:11 No. You know that? So when I left 24 the first time, because I worked there twice, when I left the first time, I had my gym in Palm Springs or whatever, and then when I came back, I was supposed to work in Southern California
Starting point is 00:04:26 for a VP there that I liked a lot. And he was gonna give me a big club, but they weren't available. So he gave me an Sanitis for a month in the interim and it ended up coming back up to San Jose. But it was the smallest club I'd ever run. It was a tiny little fun gym though, nice town. Was it one of their like little single A boxes?
Starting point is 00:04:46 It's like, you ever been to the Saratoga 24? The one at Lincolks? Is that the express one? Oh yeah, I've been there. It's not express, they've been around for a while. So they didn't build it that way, it was just a small club. I don't remember that one. Yeah, so the one in Anceneous, I ran that for exactly one month.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And but what a great little town. It's like a nice little beach town. Isn't our boy Josh Trent from around that area? He's a Sandiego. Yeah, Sandiego. I actually think he's, well, Anceneous. Yeah, it's not far from each other, right? They're only like 20, 30 minutes, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:05:17 Yeah. You guys are love. You guys don't love it down there. Sweet. So we're going down the 10th and then that's the live Q and A. Are there still sign-ups for it Doug Yeah, there are if you go on to our website at www.mimepumpmedia.com forward slash
Starting point is 00:05:33 Tour you can sign up and it's very important to put the www at the beginning otherwise it won't work Can they work what if they click the link directly from the show notes will take him straight? Yes, that's another way to do it. Okay, so show notes will have it. Yeah, it's cool. I'm excited, man. This is also I know at the Viori event. At the Viori event, they will have the 25% off of all Viori for whether they're to Oh, so everybody gets hooked up on a fat discount there, which you know 25% off the stuff. I got sick gear there. So you're gonna have to be cool.
Starting point is 00:06:06 You got to be cool. And then, Mir, I'm not gonna tell you what we do, which is the end of the tour. And this is the beginning. I'm gonna slightly hype this up a little bit because this is the plan, is that if all goes well, and we have an incredible turnout on these, like it's looking like it's gonna be already,
Starting point is 00:06:22 because I think we're already half or three quarters full on most of them. How many people are supposed to attend this one here if you're, how many? I think the max we can fit in these places are about a hundred. Okay, so it's more, it's more, depending on which location,
Starting point is 00:06:34 and I know Taylor is managing all that with the companies, and so, you know, it's gonna, everybody who wants to come has to submit, and then from there, we'll take an order of how they came in, how many total we can, we'll get back to everybody. But what I was getting at was if this becomes something that we start doing where we had the different states and we tour and hit a couple of locations of brand partnerships,
Starting point is 00:06:59 is that the end of these tours will have something cool that people can get that will be limited and unique at just that one event. Is it the nude photos of Doug? No, this is something that's for us. This will be something really cool, too. It won't be like some bullshit like that. It won't be like one of our sponsors fucking packets. No, only the coolest of cool kids will get them.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Yeah, yeah. It's going to be one of those kind of things. That's the idea. It's gonna be something that is unique and cool. You won't be able to buy it. You won't be able to get anything. You'll only be able to get it at the live event. Oh, good deal. Yeah, I'm excited for this, man.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It's gonna be a good time. Question, you have an arm band or something on your ankle. Is that a set company? Which one? This one. And I keep giving them love on the show. And that's for, they're getting lucky right now. That's not my bad.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I wasn't even playing. They're definitely not paying it. I don't know if it was an East Coast West Coast thing or something like the rappers back in the day or something weird like that. It's one of these. Infrared. Yeah, infrared sleeves and stuff. Man, I tell you what, when we went to Paleo, back to back days where I was pushing over 20,000 steps.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Up till since the injury, I haven't done more than 12. I worked up, and 8 to 10 was a lot, and 10 to 12 have been solely, is that what we were hitting about 20? Because you had your thing on the trucker. Yeah, we were talking about. I wanted to sell that. Yeah, we had, both there was two days back to end. So I've just been in a lot of pain in the last two days
Starting point is 00:08:26 It fucking hurts man, and you know, it's I and I can tell so there's still damage, you know It's not fully healed for sure and it's been one of the hardest injuries. I've had to deal with so I had to kind of back it off a little bit Katrina was doing work on it. I've yeah tendons take a while to heal much longer the muscles. Oh, man It's much longer, but you know a lot of heal. Much longer than muscles. Oh, man, it's much longer. But, you know, the good news is, or the bright side is, as tough as it's been, it's been a fast recovery in comparison to how most people react to,
Starting point is 00:08:56 or how the bodies react to this kind of, I mean, a partial tear of Achilles people are out for a long time. Yeah, I know, everybody that's told me that's like had it bad, they told me like, man, I don't, I didn't feel normal till a year later. Exactly. So, you know, and I can totally get that. I mean, it doesn't look like I'm going to be playing ball or jumping or anything crazy
Starting point is 00:09:14 anytime soon. Cause like I said, the pains are, I mean, I did some training while we were, you guys, I think we're napping or somewhere else in the pool, which was really nice. Cause I don't have access to like a four foot pool like that anywhere nearby. So that was really nice. That's when you were running across the pool, which was really nice because I don't have access to a four foot pool like that anywhere nearby, so that was really nice. That's when you were running across the pool. Yeah, yeah, so I was doing it. Not on the water in the water.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Sounds like you're just good. Like a ninja. Yeah, man. Yeah, so I was doing some work in the pool. He can walk on water. That felt really good to do that. But you're able to squat, are you, can you deadlift yet? Yeah, yeah, no, I haven't pushed the deadlift
Starting point is 00:09:44 as far as strengthwise. I think you're hard, everything. yeah. No, I, oh wow. I haven't pushed the deadlift as far as strengthwise. I think you're harder, I think. Yeah, the squat, I can, the squat, I've been, I've been squatting decent and it feels good to, to get back. That's the biggest thing for me. I just feel good that I can walk normal. When it gets really bad, I limp.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like last night we were at the Warriors game and, you know, oh, how was that, by the way? Oh, epic, bro. Did they win? Dude, we won't, okay, so check this out. So, Stefan Curry has been out for, God, I think six, eight weeks now. And we won the first series against San Antonio in five games without him. That's our star player, right? And it was so dope. Part of why I wanted to go
Starting point is 00:10:20 to this game. It was kind of a last minute decision with Katrina is, you know, we've agreed that we're going to go to every round of the playoffs for both the warriors and the sharks. And so last night, we're just like, let's go. Let's go to this game because this is the first game, Stefan Curry's coming back of home. And so I was he fire. Well, I missed it. So let's see how this goes down. So we get there. And you don't know going into the game like you say he's cleared, he's gonna play, is he gonna start or is he gonna come off the bench and you don't know until game time comes around and they announce the starting lineup and he doesn't start.
Starting point is 00:10:53 So they're not gonna start them just to let him give them a little bit of extra power. Little extra rest. Yeah, ease them in and about midway through the first and it was a close game. It was, I think when he came in, we were actually down by two and he comes in. And when he goes to the scores table to check in,
Starting point is 00:11:09 the entire arena fucking stands up, dude. Standing, standing, oh, just to welcome him in. Oh, shit. And everyone's standing, clapping. He checks in. We're still standing and clapping, getting ready to sit down. First play he has touches the ball, fucking drains a three.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Oh, he's so, a three place he rupted he's such a bro he rupted then he came down the very next play ran the offense like impeccable backdoor pass for a layup the place was I mean you just wanted to rip your shirt off and throw it on the record was that kind of energy inside oh dude it was that kind of energy inside there Steve Kerr afterwards was being interviewed he said that's the loudest he's ever heard oracle since he's been there. And it was so dope to be there in that environment at that intimate of a level too.
Starting point is 00:11:53 So we were, I was about. What was the score at the end? The final score we, we ended up winning by I think was five or six was the, the final. We were so close game. Yeah, was, oh, the whole game was close until about the towards the end of the fourth. Durant had 15 in the fourth quarter really pulled away. We were up by about 13 at one point. And then when it, so when I had two minutes left, I started, I tried to sneak away like the last two minutes. So again, in front of traffic. And if it's not a close, if it's, if we have enough of a spread that I know we're going to win. So I left.
Starting point is 00:12:21 So I didn't watch the last two minutes. I listened to the last two minutes in the car. I wouldn't mind, you know, like I said, I'm not huge into most sports, but I would definitely not mind going to a game like that. You know what I mean? So you can get to the audience, you know what I mean? The crowd and I understand, I know basketball, I know football, I can watch, I know what's going on.
Starting point is 00:12:40 So I could, I would like to do a lot of times, that's what wins people into becoming. Yeah, I know. I was a, I've told you guys, I don't even ever share this on air before, but I was like, I as a kid, I was being an athlete playing sports. Like we were, you know, football, baseball, basketball, soccer, those are all kinds of sports that I played and was around. And we weren't, we lived in, you know, the Valley, hot area.
Starting point is 00:13:01 And so with that, no one had hockey rinks or anything. So we hated hockey. And I, and what I, why I say I hated hockey was, I was so much in the Valley, Hot Area, and so with that, no one had hockey rinks or anything like that. So we hated hockey. And why I say I hated hockey was, I was so much into sports. I watch sports center every single night. I watched all the news. I knew what was going on in all sports. And when hockey would come on,
Starting point is 00:13:14 we'd all, my buddies would be like, ah, hockey's on. Yeah, yeah, it's all the real highlights going on. Right, and we used to joke when hockey season's going on, they actually get a couple of the highlights in the top 10 sports center, and what a ways to talk. We never show the fighting.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Right. We just used to talk so much shit about hockey and a lot of that was just naive. I wasn't around it and play it. And so, you know, I thought it was a lame game. And my buddy back in, I want to say 2004 or so, 2003,ish, while I'm living in the Bay Area. I've been here for a few years. He calls me up and he's like, hey, I got tickets to the sharks. And I'm like, hockey? I'm fucking it. And I don't even know what part of the season it is for hockey. That's how disconnected I am to hockey. I don't give a shit, right? He's like, yeah, man, they're in
Starting point is 00:14:00 playoffs right now. It's a playoff game. And I'm like, I don't know, dude, I got shit going on. I got to work tomorrow early morning. He's a playoff game. I'm like, I don't know, dude, I got shit going on. I got to work tomorrow early morning. He's like, come on, I got center ice, about 10 rows back. Probably with the best seats you can get in hockey, because I've sat everywhere. And ice is cool to do that on the ice and on the glass as an experience, but it's not the best view.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I think best view, center ice or behind the goalie in about 10 rows back. So we're sitting, that's my first experience is I come into this playoff game. And man, as soon as they came out on the ice to start it the place was and remember I'm an athlete I'm a sports guy I've been to tons of sports events I'd never felt something as electric as being in the shark tank for a playoff Yeah, hockey is and I had nothing else instantly goose bumps all over my body and I was like holy shit
Starting point is 00:14:43 This atmosphere is right and then when you're watching the game live, see TV is following the puck and a sport like hockey, much like football, much like soccer, a lot of these sports that have a big widespread outfield. The camera misses a lot of the good part. So much more drama going on. People getting hit, you know, like taking people out, like plays like forming in the background, like like you see like how they're, you know, they're the kind of moving and swooping into position like you don't see any of that shit on TV. So I instantly fell in love with a sport of hockey. It was later in my life when I was in my mid-20s and I would arguably say now that it's up there if not my favorite. It's top three favorite sports
Starting point is 00:15:24 to watch now, especially if I'm watching live, because live hockey hockey is epic. And so it was basketball. If you get to sit down, yeah, basketball kind of sucks if you're really far away, just because you feel so away from the game, but you know what? I'm a little like, I'll be honest, dude, football in person. So worse, it does. So worse.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I have to seem impact. I don't like it. It's a worse. Really? Yeah, because the best seats in football can't get a good eye of everything. The best seats in football are 50 yard line right the very front row. Like it doesn't get better. I said a few
Starting point is 00:15:53 times. It is exciting, but it's just it's still when you put apples to apples against like, you know, hockey or basketball, you don't get immersed into the action like you're too far away. Yeah, some far away. You some ways you know I There's 50 yards. There's 50 yards away from the guy who's sitting in the best seats of the house 50 yards
Starting point is 00:16:10 Best seats of house from an actual player. That's a long way to it like basketball hockey matters if you get a glass seats The hockey the dude could hit the glass in your face see there. Fuck you cheek just yeah Touch him practically basketball if you're close to the course side, the fucking player could fall in your lap. Same thing for soccer, same thing. There's a baseball, even baseball ball could hit you, or the guy could dive into your lap, catching the ball. So you're in the sport football,
Starting point is 00:16:35 you're so disconnected from it. And with so many players on the field at once, there's a lot of, in football, there's more players on the field at once, all in the same area than anywhere else. So it's really easy to miss a lot of stuff happening. I mean, I don't know how many times I've been into a live football event Think I'm following the play because it was a fake or something like that and you're just kind of like Well, I'll go dude. I'll go if we go to one of those games. I'd love to go to guys
Starting point is 00:16:58 I'll be honest about my critique. You know, I mean if I like it or not You'd love it, too. I probably will I feel like I feel like I will if I'm there, you know what I mean? If I like it or not. Oh, you'd love it, dude. I probably will. I feel like I will if I'm there, you know what I mean? Well, I think we're all equally, even though we're not all equally the same into sports and end the same things like that. We're all cerebral guys. And that's the part where I think that you would always really dig about this is the more you dive into sports.
Starting point is 00:17:21 I think it's one of the greatest expressions of training and dieting and getting your bodies prepared to perform at the highest, most optimal level. And then you add that with some of the most brilliant minds that actually take, it's like, it's war. That's what I was gonna say. Modern day war. Yeah, so I say, for me, it's when I watch sports,
Starting point is 00:17:42 that's literally what I see is I, organized war with rules and no killing. Yes. And so then I find it fascinating, especially, football for me is the most fascinating, only because it's so much closer to modern warfare than other sports because you have players that look so different from each other. Like a cornerback looks so different from a lineman. Looks so different from a safety and a quarterback and a running back.
Starting point is 00:18:09 And it's like you have your tanks, you have your planes, you have your seat, you're, you're, you're, you know, your, your ships. And they're all different shapes and sizes because of their different roles. So when you watch the game, it's, for me, it's pretty cool because it's so strategic. It's down to the, the size of the players. Well, as you become a deeper and deeper fan, I won't bore our audience. It doesn't give a shit about sports and stuff,
Starting point is 00:18:30 but no, let's do. We never talk about it. But as you get deeper into the sport, and all of them are unique to themselves, whether it be baseball, football, basketball, hockey, whatever we're talking about, that the average person who shows up and watches a game that's just like a,
Starting point is 00:18:44 what we call like a weekend warrior type of a fan is just watching the sport for the score like that's that's nowhere near as as entertaining to me as really understanding the strategy of the game and seeing it happen that the average person doesn't see you know there. For example like a game like hockey that moves so fast there's constantly rotations happening. So those guys guys that are coming on and off the ice, on and off the ice, the whole entire game. But every move that the coach plays as far as putting a team out there,
Starting point is 00:19:13 there's a deeper strategy to that. And there's certain guys on the team that are designed to go after and hurt players on the team or protect guys on our team. It's just how we organize ourselves. And I find it fascinating. It's very clear. It's very black and white.
Starting point is 00:19:28 But businesses like this too, you know, you have a big business. You have your players that are really good at sales. You have your players that are really good at math. And the people are really good at marketing. And you just put your people in their positions and then run the play. Mark Cuban's book is great because he uses,
Starting point is 00:19:44 and I love Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban's book is great because he uses, and I love Mark Cuban, and I think you're right. I think that there are so many parallels to business and sports. It's all, what it is, it's not even business and sports. It's just what humans do. Like it's what we do when we organize. You're better off when you get people who are good
Starting point is 00:20:00 at specific things doing particular, playing particular roles, and then everybody works together when you combine these roles and then that's when you get, that's when you succeed. It's the team that, and your business, whatever, but it's the team that where the players are in the best positions for themselves
Starting point is 00:20:16 and everybody just executes. And so that will always trump a superstar, you know, or whatever. If you have people in the wrong positions, you can have the best people in the world, but if you have the best sales people in the world, and you have them doing your engineering, and you have the best engineers in the world,
Starting point is 00:20:32 and they're doing your sales, you're fucked. You're not gonna succeed. So check this out. This is something that happened to me at being a die hard basketball fan. I went through about a 10 year stint where I stopped watching basketball. And part of the reason why I did, and I what there's going to be some fans who are not going to
Starting point is 00:20:48 like this, I hate this shit, but I called it the Kobe era, and it turned me off for the sport. Because what had happened is basketball became larger than life, and part of that through shoes, and television, and advertising, and things like that. And it became you started to see it turn from a, you know, great team sport into these unbelievable individuals that could do things that nobody else on the court could do. And Kobe Bryant and the Michael Jorens and these guys are examples of that. And we really lost this great, like playing sports. It was like, who had the best player in the league? Should we analyze?
Starting point is 00:21:27 Right. And so I just, I fell out of faith. I stopped watching it. I didn't like it at all. And the spurs about 15, 15 years ago or so, really started to model their franchise differently. And it was more, it was, the team was bigger than the person in the individual. And they started to build that around players
Starting point is 00:21:45 that had the same acting. And then the culture started from the top all the way down. And something about them that like a lot of average people probably don't know about that is that the spurs have been in the playoffs for 19 years straight consistently, regardless of how talented. Now I've had great players in their team,
Starting point is 00:22:00 but the most important piece was how they played. Now the warriors have modeled their franchise after that in the last 10, you know what I'm probably eight years or so, I'd say, is when we remember winning. Oh, yeah. And now you're watching it in like after all these years of putting all these systems into place, of being team ball, and being about the team and not individuals, and we're just fucking everybody up. And it's one of my favorite things to see,
Starting point is 00:22:26 is to see like when we collectively come together on something how much more powerful we are than we are individuals. Just goes to show you when people organize themselves, what they can accomplish in sports is just a very clear black and white representation of that. It's very easy to see in comparison to society
Starting point is 00:22:42 or whatever, but it's when people voluntarily work together and do what they're good at, and everybody does the role. It's very easy to see in comparison to society or whatever, but it's when people voluntarily work together and do what they're good at, and everybody does the role. It's pretty awesome. It's fascinating to see how much the ego plays a role in that and how challenging that is for people. You know, it's tough. And I don't know what drove that.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I don't know what drove us to, I mean, obviously we evolved and got here by working with each other and helping each other. And then we evolved so much that it got to a point where people started to think that, oh, I can handle this and do this all on my own. I don't know where that stem from or whatever. Well, the irony is we all, I mean, especially in market-based societies, it is people working together.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Might not look like it, but the reality is, you know, if you're listening to this podcast on your phone, there's like countless millions of people that, you know, work together that culminated in the technology of that particular phone and putting that phone in your hand. And that's direct and indirect, you know, every piece of that phone from the glass to the, to the technology that makes it run is the culmination of people working together voluntarily and to serve their best interests, their them best interests. Have you seen Brad Pitt's movie, Money Ball?
Starting point is 00:23:48 No, I was looking at the book. Okay, so let me talk about this because you had mentioned that and that was like a standout thing for me that turned me off of baseball. I'm a huge ace fan. Okay, so we're talking about how basketball kind of turned into idolizing these champions.
Starting point is 00:24:04 And like the champion, my champion is is Michael Jordan and you know, and you're sort of like lifting up these these individual players is like the carrier of the team versus this mentality where money ball is, you know, let's just turn this all into a numbers. And let's let's let's now bring in people that are role players that statistically we can predict, you know, the outcome of this game. And, you know, based off of numbers, we're going to win X amount of games, you know, if people just, you know, succumb to their roles and they just put out the amount of effort we want them to put out and do what they want them to do.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And, you know, as a fan, that is fucking killed that team for me. Killed it. Because there's no loyalty. You start putting effort into, you know, players on the team and knowing them and getting their backstory and finding out how they came through, you know, minor leagues and now they're in the pros and now you're on your team. This is your team that they're on, right? And you're out there cheering for them and guess what, they just got traded.
Starting point is 00:25:09 And now another one comes in, replaces it. And then, you know, meanwhile there's this shifting, there's this moving, they do it like way before you think they would trade somebody just to be able to get the right pick. It's a balancing act because, oh my God, if you're owning this,
Starting point is 00:25:25 one of these teams, there's a balancing act. On one hand, you wanna win games cause nothing's gonna sell merchandising and fill seats like a winning team. But at the same time, if you make the fans unhappy with how you're doing it, it's a balancing act. It's a very unique perspective to hear you say that
Starting point is 00:25:41 because I'm actually, I think Billy Bean will go down in history and be we've spoken about for hundreds of years going forward and he's a pioneer that he revolutionized the game now now almost every team has modeled modeled that or at least taken from that that look at we don't have to go out and get a big name if we actually do our homework and like find these these gyms that fit into our system and our piece and are now really successful. The money ball piece of it of, you know, run managing, because the A's are the most profitable team in the league.
Starting point is 00:26:11 That's, you know, not the game. So in the working, not the Red Sox. When you saw the Red Sox, it actually worked. Right. They won a championship. So then it's working. Right. Yeah, they're doing it for as yet.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Right, right. And maybe that's because the A's run it more so just for a business and they're. They're too aggressive, I think, with it. Yeah, and maybe And maybe that's because the A's run it more so just for a business. And they're too aggressive, I think, with it. Yeah, and maybe the Red Sox gave you more of a balance of that. And you see teams now, I think, having a little bit more balance, but he definitely changed how they draft players. They changed that you trade players and what you do with them.
Starting point is 00:26:38 So I fucking love that movie. I think Billy Bean was just fucking. I watch it. I watch it. Yeah, you should watch it. I think it Bean was just, I have watched it. I have watched it. It was brilliant. Yeah, you should watch it. I think it's a great movie no matter what. This is the longest I think we've ever talked about.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I know it's your point. I keep apologizing because I know that you don't like to talk about it. Oh, I don't care. I can talk about it. But I mean, if you talk specifics, I'm not going to know what you're talking about. Yeah, well, that's what's tough.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And that's where I'd love to go deep. You know what I'm saying? I love to go deep in the game and stuff like that, but it's yeah, I'd do in this Well, you know, we start light. I mean we got him into Jesus not that long ago Next to sports, yeah, we're gonna change you bro Everybody thinks that thousand fluency us is having the other way around We're slowly fireproofing it. Yeah, that's gonna fireproof me. Oh, you watch sports? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 Anyway, so not to not changing gears because I don't want to talk about sports anymore, but I do want to talk about. Yeah, right. But I do want to talk about what we just watched, the documentary. Yeah, we do. Well, we had Magic Pill.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Yeah, so many people that were reaching out asking us to watch this documentary, which by the way, I want to start by saying that it's a little slow So I think if you are looking for a documentary to buckle up and like gripping yeah, it's not I think it's done okay I think it echoes a lot of our message that we've been saying for a long time It's just it's so I mean essentially just a quick rundown. I mean, it's it's showing how diet alone can solve a lot of our health problems.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And they highlight a few people and situations in the documentary. There was a woman, an older woman who was on like several different prescription medications. And they had another woman who's, you know, asthmatic. And then they were showing aboriginal tribes who were doing a 10 week retreat where they were going to eat a more traditional aboriginal diet. They showed a family with a daughter who was autistic and they were going to change her
Starting point is 00:28:35 diet. And it was just, I mean, I get emotional watching it because I imagine how many people are suffering and the fix is really just changing their lifestyle. I mean, so many people, that's the fix. And you know, one of the arguments, one of the things that they said in the documentary, the family with the autistic girl and the dad's like,
Starting point is 00:28:59 yeah, I don't know how we were gonna do this because it's so much more expensive to eat this way. And what they did is they went largely ketogenic, they eliminated processed foods, and they were seeing tremendous improvements in their daughter's health, and the dad was like, well, it's kind of expensive, so we're buying a whole cow,
Starting point is 00:29:14 and he's talking about a strategies. And then, but before that, they were showing how much they were paying on her medications. And she was on this anti-seizure drug that was a thousand dollars of bottle. And this is not unheard of, by the way, if you have chronic illness, you know how expensive medications can be, even if you have insurance. And so their insurance covered, you know, 70% of the cost. So he was
Starting point is 00:29:36 $3,000 a month on these pills. And then he's talking about how expensive it is to eat healthy. And my thought process is like, it's probably not. It's probably not more expensive. I don't think he put it apples to apples and like kind of really spreadsheet it out because like there's no way. Like if all those medications, you know, you stack them up in the price point,
Starting point is 00:29:58 there's no way you can see that. You can see how like just going organic and buying like good whole foods, you know, that's not I'm gonna compare. That's my point. It can see how like just going organic and buying like good whole foods, you know, that's not I'm going to compare. That's my point. It can be though. I mean, we're also comparing to people that are all on fucking thousands of dollars of medication and then obviously they're saving tons of money. But to the average consumer, I've seen, I mean, I think Max did a really good post like I'll fucked up in
Starting point is 00:30:18 a backer with our society is when you like a salad costs $13. But then you can get like four cheeseburgers from McDonald's for under $3 or whatever. But this is also why we partnered with a company like Thrive Market. I mean, that was what turned all of us on with this company was to be able to provide high quality source food like this instantly to your house
Starting point is 00:30:39 for and make it cheaper. And make it cheaper. And this is why again, like I love attaching ourselves to a company that one has got an incredible message, doing great things as far as how they give back. And then you know that this is the future, man. This is where we are heading in this direction where you were watching the shift happen.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And more people demanded the price point gets down. Right, I mean, and look, here's the bottom line. Like we're relatively healthy people in this room. And, you know, most people in their 20s and 30s, although it's getting worse for them too now, but for the, you're not going to spend a ton of money on medical stuff, but you keep living a life where you don't eat in a way that serves your body, and it will be more fucking expensive, 100%. You look at the average cost that somebody spends
Starting point is 00:31:26 the last five to 10 years of their life or how much people end up spending on medications when they hit the ages of 50 and 60. And yeah, it's actually cheaper. It's actually much cheaper and less expensive to eat healthy and besides, let's say it wasn't. Or can you really quantify the quality of life loss that you have because you're eating, you know, terribly?
Starting point is 00:31:50 I mean, it's, it's, it's insane to me. Now, as I'm watching this documentary and the documentary is very pro, Ketie Jank style diet, and they have lots of scientists on their researchers talking about why, you know, this is, this is probably how humans ate a lot of the times, you know, this is this is probably how humans ate a lot of the times, you know, naturally and how people tend to feel better when they eat this way, especially if they're already sick, which I think in the case of in the context of already being sick, you may feel better eating this way because your body's really lost its ability to
Starting point is 00:32:21 utilize carbohydrates effect, you utilize carbohydrates efficiently or effectively. So like if you have dementia, if you have chronic autoimmune type disorders, and lots of people benefit from eating a higher, much higher fat, much lower carbohydrate type diet. So you're seeing a lot of that stuff in this documentary, where they're kind of pushing that and promoting that. But my belief is that a lot of the benefits that people see when they eat that way isn't necessarily because of the macronutrient profile that I think that's part of it.
Starting point is 00:32:52 I think it's because it just cut out all those processed foods. So it's more like what they're not eating, unless of what they are eating. But now that being said, I was looking at this, I know the studies on carbohydrate intake, and I know if you want to be strong and explosive and you want to build muscle, you're probably better off eating some carbohydrates.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And then I was thinking in the context of human evolution. And for most of human history, for most of it, the vast majority, like 97% of it, carbohydrates were harder to come by. Right, right. They just don't grow naturally. Like if you're a hunter gather, you're not gonna run, you're not gonna encounter a lot of carbohydrates.
Starting point is 00:33:36 If you try to eat and cover your caloric needs, nobody's ever been excited about like foraging to like, you know, keep things going. You're not gonna have enough calories, not. It's just not gonna be good. And this is pre-agricultural revolution before humans understood that they could actually grow food and you know, plant things in particular ways.
Starting point is 00:33:54 So if you're a hunter gatherer, you may encounter fruit every once in a while or hunting every once in a while or maybe a tuber here or there, but you're not gonna eat very many carbs because there's not a lot around you. Now, think of the context of that in terms of what skills or what physical attributes
Starting point is 00:34:14 did humans need a lot of more than any other during most of human civilization. Endurance, stamina. Yep, stamina. More than anything else. Like hunter-gatherers, it's pretty well established that we probably in modern hunter-gatherers Indurance stamina. Yep, stamina more than anything else like hunter gatherers It's pretty well established that we probably in modern hunter gatherers do this do this now so we can still observe them but the way we hunted animals was we tracked them until they wore out until they wore out and then we you know
Starting point is 00:34:38 Humans can throw with greater accuracy than any other animal. So we probably Out we just wore them down and then fucking through our spears at them and killed them. So strength and power and explosiveness and lots of muscle evolutionarily speaking wasn't that big of an advantage. I mean, we were definitely strong and muscular, especially compared to the average, you know, out of shape, you know, American, for example, but, you know, for stamina is subsisting on lots of fats and low carbohydrates. Is that a good strategy? Yeah, actually your your body even if you're lean stores tens of thousands of calories worth of ketones in the form of stored body fat, even if you're lean you'll have something like 30 40,000 Calories stored on your body that you can use if you're if you're in a situation where you're not eating and you need to track an animal down. Well, carbohydrates are lucky if you can store about 6,000 calories
Starting point is 00:35:33 worth. So that'll run out very quickly. So in that context, because as I'm watching, I'm like, well, you know, but if you want to build muscle, if you want to be explosive this and that, and yeah, they'll do that. But, you know what? Humans are much more, I mean, we're kind of designed or evolved to really have more stamina than anything, and that comes from eating a diet that's more fat and way less carbohydrates. And again, like what the documentary highlights is how beneficial that is for people's health. And again, it just, you know, how many people do you guys think if we go to the doctor, if they just changed their lifestyle,
Starting point is 00:36:11 if they could just avoid all the... I think that's the biggest takeaway from that video. It's just showing that how powerful food is and how our entire society still hasn't got that concept yet. So for any listener of this show, it's probably not very groundbreaking information, but what I like about it is it's more something
Starting point is 00:36:37 that it touches a lot of those topics and it's presenting it in a way that now I can sort of relay this to maybe a family member or somebody that's like, you know, not really ready to deep dive yet. I like the, I think the good one or the big one for me was or something that I hear a lot from parents is, oh my kid won't eat that. Oh yes. That's a big point. That was a powerful scene. That's probably as a trainer for 15 years. I don't think I've heard that more than anything else, which is just my kid won't eat it, refuses to eat it, won't eat this.
Starting point is 00:37:13 And so I remember watching that and going like, you know, okay, this is cool that they're going here because I think this is very common. What this, this was the autistic kid and, you know, you're not dealing with regular kids. Right, that makes it even harder, right? It's not like, you know, it's one thing to have a normal kid who refuses to eat food, but imagine having an autistic kid that when you push a plate of chicken or something
Starting point is 00:37:34 or two, she throws it against the wall or screams in cries or, you know, they should video of her putting herself in the corner and throwing these crazy tantrums. And I can't imagine how hard that would be for a parent going through that and going like, I just want the fucking kid to shut up. Here's your goldfish. Here's your fried chicken nuggets or whatever it is. And so I get that. So I thought that
Starting point is 00:37:55 to me, that was the most powerful part of the documentary was watching them progress through that and seeing the way she was reacting after they broke beyond the 10. And how the kid was craving the food after it took two weeks. The breakthrough. Yeah, two weeks later, the kid she was reacting after they broke beyond the 10th. It took two weeks. How the kid was craving this food after the breakthrough. Yeah, two weeks later, the kid was eating the food that was put in front of her. She was eating foods that were healthy and craving them and thriving as a result.
Starting point is 00:38:16 And here's my message to parents. Well, first off, you can't expect your kids to do something that you're not. Okay, so that's number one. So if you're eating a shitty diet and then you're putting healthy food expect your kids to do something that you're not. Okay, so that's number one. So if you're eating a shitty diet and then you're putting healthy food to your kids, well good luck with that. That's a defeat, you're not gonna win that.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's like trying to tell your kids not to smoke cigarettes, but you smoke all day long. Like it doesn't work. But here's number two, stop being a fucking pussy. Okay, like be a parent. Like, you know, like I think parents are so afraid of their kids, of their kids not liking them or being upset that they just, you know,
Starting point is 00:38:49 they just, they put, tuck their tail between their legs and give their kids whatever they want. And it's like, it's fucking, listen, get a cry closet in your house. Yeah, your kid isn't gonna starve. Like, are they gonna be a few days where they don't be allowed? That's the point though. That's the point people need to understand.
Starting point is 00:39:04 They can go a couple of days. If they're gonna throw a tyrant, you know, a little hussy fit about it, guess what? Like they're gonna get hungry at some point. Yeah, they will. You know, they're gonna subside. They're gonna try it because they're so hungry. You know, it's like, they can fight you all they want.
Starting point is 00:39:19 But at the end of the day, their body's gonna wanna feed. Yes, and here's what I see, okay? Cause I think some parents see it and they think, oh my kids just being a brat. They're throwing a tantrum, and they just wanna eat their crackers or whatever and they don't wanna eat what I'm putting in front of them.
Starting point is 00:39:34 And they're acting crazy and they're acting like brats and they're acting, you know, like disrespectful. Here's what I see. Would it, you know what it looks like to me? Withdrawal. Oh, absolutely. You take away alcohol from an alcoholic, or you take away heroin from a heroin addict,
Starting point is 00:39:48 you're gonna see the same type of behavior. And that's what's happening. It's not that your kids are brats, your kids are literally going through withdrawal. They become dependent. They become dependent on these process sugary foods, for sure. And they get, and they cry, and they don't like it. It's a hard process for them is no denying that dude
Starting point is 00:40:05 I've seen it's just Last night my my my my son's volleyball team had a like a party at the end of the season So you know everybody was together and they're right, you know They're having pizza and whatever and I brought my daughter and at the end of it they give a cake to the coach and it's a big ass cake. And the lady who's serving the cake is giving the cake out to the kids and then my daughter's up next in line.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And she looks at my daughter. She's like, do you like a lot of frosting or a little bit of frosting? I'm looking at the cake. I'm like, the whole thing's covered in frosting. Okay, but thanks for asking my daughter a stupid question. We all know what the answer is gonna be. So, and I'm surrounded by parents, right right so I'm very careful about how I come across
Starting point is 00:40:48 to other people and also to my daughter in front of her friends in front of other people because it could backfire right if I come across. You know, it'd be that dad. I don't want to be the tyrant. Yeah right and I don't want a dad that nobody wants to go to his house because I don't want to be a tyrant to my daughter either I don't want her to have a bad you know relationship with food because dad's looking over my shoulder. So I'm just observing. So I'm watching this and of course my daughter's like,
Starting point is 00:41:09 I like a lot of frosting. And she gives, and you guys can't see this on the podcast. Unfortunately, but this is how big of a piece. So I gave my daughter, he's showing about a softball in a half-salt. And it's like thick. And they give that to my daughter. And I'm looking at this mom, like, that's four pieces
Starting point is 00:41:26 for an adult. You just gave my eight year old daughter a massive piece of very, very highly palatable, addictive food, like, okay, so let's watch and see what happens. Now luckily my kids don't eat a lot of sugar. So I feel like, okay, maybe palate fatigue will kick in, make her feel nauseous. And sure enough, it did. She got through about a third of it and she left it and I'm like,
Starting point is 00:41:47 oh, you don't want to eat anymore? She was like, no, I think I'm done. And then of course, she was acting kind of funny later on. And I could tell what was going on. And so I tried to connect that. And I said, I mean, do you feel kind of nauseous a little bit? She's like, yes, it might be because you ate too much of that cake, too much sugar does this that and the other. And then I left alone. But people parents just, they don't either, they don't know. They're scared. Do you know how important that piece though is right there? What you just said was, you know, being aware, first of all, that you don't want to be the dad that knocks the cake out of
Starting point is 00:42:16 her hand or says, you can't have that. But helping her make the connections of her not feeling good, whether it be she's cranky, whether she's irritable, or her stomach isn't feeling good, or she has headaches, or she can. Whatever that is, as a parent, is giving them that little bit of freedom to where the kid can make that choice, so you're empowering her by doing that. But then also helping her connect the dots on potentially how that makes her feel and then educating her along the way. And then I know some people listening right now don't have the level of education you do, but I also don't think that you get into
Starting point is 00:42:46 really deep science with her. I think you can keep it very simple for her to say. I just explain it in a way that she can understand. Talk to her like she's a baby. So I make sure that I do talk to her like she's a little or then she is, but you would be surprised at how much more kids understand than you think, you know what I mean? It's so funny you brought this up,
Starting point is 00:43:04 because you know, little league they treated and stuff too and this is still like a battle, you know, that I have, but I wasn't there. We were in Austin and my kids had a game and Courtney was there for the game and she was telling me about this story. She saw that they had these huge rice crispy treats with chocolate, everything else in them and all this stuff with a pre-sunds. And that's what they got for a snack.
Starting point is 00:43:32 This is right before dinner again. And so she just saw that and saw it. And she just, my wife has no filter at all. That's probably why I married her. She just was like, oh come on, like we're gonna give these kids, all these sugar ripe after they did all this like awesome exercise and we're gonna go try and feed them
Starting point is 00:43:55 like a healthy dinner after this. Who's idea was this like ranting about it? And the lady was right behind her and was like, oh, I just thought, you know, they'd like it. And this is that. And I was like, oh, I just thought, you know, they'd like it. And this is that. And I was like, oh, I don't like it. Like, oh, like, she's just like whatever. Like, she's a care I would have been like, oh God,
Starting point is 00:44:12 like, you know, yes, this is like over the weekend. So, but that's the mindset though. The mindset is that we're catering into like, what these kids, like, it's like, it's that association of like celebration or whatever the fuck, it's like, it's that association of celebration or whatever the fuck we attach to birthdays, parties, this and that, like we give them shit. And it's like nobody's put that together.
Starting point is 00:44:34 It's like why can't we give them something else? I'm fully convinced, fully convinced that, you know, forget dieting, forget following this, following that diet and doing, watching your cow. I'm fully convinced that the average person just eliminated processed food. That's it. If you just cut out highly processed foods,
Starting point is 00:44:51 you would notice a significant improvement in health. You would lose some body fat and you'd feel a lot better. Now you're gonna be ripped or you're gonna be shredded and you're probably not because at that point you need to then also monitor things like calories and stuff like that. But most people, if they just did that alone, would notice significant changes in the way they looked and felt.
Starting point is 00:45:10 And there's for two reasons. One of the main reasons is, and I've said this so many times, but I don't care, I'm going to keep saying it, is processed foods are designed specifically to make you overeat. Now, it's not some conspiracy theory. This isn't some like evil, you know, scientist in a laboratory. He's like, how can I make people, well, it's kind of it's it's it's let's be honest, it kind of is actually they're just they're just trying to sell more and you're and they know when they make something they know when they make something taste ridiculously good people eat more. And so there's no of course you're gonna overeat when you eat these processed foods and then the other thing is what these foods are comprised of? Well it's
Starting point is 00:45:49 stuff that doesn't make your body operate well and so if you just eliminate that alone, you know watch what happens, watch what happens to your kids. I noticed a significant change in my kids when they spend too much time at their grandparents house and you know God bless their grandparents because they've got wonderful loving grandparents but it is of oh and they tell you it's an uphill battle because I'll go they'll be at my you know my parents house or my in-laws house and I'll go over to my ex-in-laws house and I'll go there and and I'll see what they're giving them to eat and you know my you know my kid will be sitting on the on the on the couch and they'll be watching cartoons or whatever. And they'll just have a large bag of some kind of process snack.
Starting point is 00:46:31 That's not even portioned out. So here's the bag, until you want to stop eating. And so not only are you distracted from watching something, but now you're eating this, you know, and I'm like, oh man, how do I, and you try to talk to, I don't know how you are with your parents, but I talk to them about it. And it's like, they feel like they're being ridiculed.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I'm the grandfather on the grandmother. That's my job to spoil. I'm like, no, it's not your job to fucking ruin. This is some old, yeah, this is some old, I don't know where that came from, but it is shared by pretty much everybody, like in that generation. And I don't know like, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:04 if it was coming back from, you know the war or something, or the scarcity mindset was still there from previous depression era people that passed that on, but we gotta fucking break the chain. And it is one of those things that it fires me up sometimes because I feel like powerless because they do such a good job
Starting point is 00:47:28 with taking them loving them and doing activities with them and being active and then they'll go to McDonald's and treat it with some apple pie. It's tough, dude. Our culture is... It kills me. Our culture, it kills me. Our culture has been celebrating food for a long time. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:47:49 We've been celebrating it for a really long time. I think it's a very tough thing. And we're right in the middle of it, right? So I think the generation coming up, I think we'll be till, I saw it on our turn of the bathroom just earlier, that I think that, you know, you guys, this kid's generation when they have kids, they'll get it because there'll be enough information studies that, Right now we are in the, you know, 70s of smoking cigarettes.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It does look a lot like the cigarette. Yeah, it is. It reminds me a lot about that. And they're still people that fucking smoke daily. I don't think there will ever be people that won't be drinking poison and eating shit for it. It looks like a deliberate, you know, like, right, right? That's what it looks like a deliberate, you know, like, ah, fuck health. Right, right, right. That's what it looks like. Yeah, it looks like to everybody. Right, so I think that when it starts to get that stigma
Starting point is 00:48:32 and I think we're watching that, I think that the pendulum is starting to swing back, but we're still way on the other side. I mean, we're nowhere near getting back to like centered. I think we're still on the very extreme side and I think we'll eventually come back to it. Well, so here's something cool. And I don't know if you started to,
Starting point is 00:48:50 Justin, I don't know if you started to, like, give your kids time blocks for electronics like we had talked about or whatever. So here's something interesting that I'm gonna start doing. So a couple of things that I've noticed, now my kids, both kids have four hours total of electronic time for the week, during the week total. Yeah, that's not a lot, bro.
Starting point is 00:49:07 I know, that's not a lot of all. Now, that doesn't include, that doesn't include four hours total for a week or a whole week. That is not a lot of time. I could play, I used to play video games for two, three hours straight. I know, what's it?
Starting point is 00:49:17 I know, that's where it is. That's where, that's where we're starting. And then we're gonna see what it looks like. But, so far, here's what I've noticed, so far. And by the way, that doesn't include when you need to use electronics for schoolwork. So if you have to go on your computer to write, whatever, of course, I'm not gonna cut into that,
Starting point is 00:49:31 but four hours total, that includes TV, and internet, and video game, you're saying. Yeah, that's crazy. So here's what I've noticed. I've got a lot to contribute to. Here's what I've noticed. Since doing this, first off, my kids are way more personable.
Starting point is 00:49:47 They play together better. They're more creative. They're more hardworking. So when they're doing their chores or whatever, they're on it. And here's the other thing that I've noticed. That I didn't even think about. One of the greatest things you can teach your kids
Starting point is 00:50:04 is how to sacrifice for something that they want, how to save money or save whatever for something that they want in the future. That's a great skill to have. In fact, scientists will tell you that a child who does that very well tends to grow up to be a successful adult. Your ability to not always grab what's expedient
Starting point is 00:50:24 into study hard and it's going to be tough for later on, you know, benefits and all that stuff. Like, that's a good skill. And that's something you want to teach in your kids. I love watching what my kids are doing now with their time because the four hours is up to them. I don't say that they can do it all in one day if they want, but that's it, right? So I'm watching how they're doing it. Now, my daughter is different than my son. And what my daughter will do is she'll be like, okay, she'll be like, Papa, I'm going how they're doing it. Now my daughter is different than my son. And what my daughter will do is she'll be like, okay, she'll be like,
Starting point is 00:50:47 Papa, I'm gonna use 15 minutes of my time. So make sure you know whatever. And so she used 15 minutes here, 15 minutes there, 20 minutes there, and she's just monitoring her total and keeping track of it. My son will go zero time, all the way until he gets to the weekend. That's what I would do.
Starting point is 00:51:03 When he can sit down. That's what I would do. Look out with my friends. He's a lot like his dad. That's what I weekend. That's what I would do. When he can sit down. I would do. I'm like out with my friends. He's a lot like his dad. That's what I do. That's how I party too. If I like won't drink and I'll go out and go nuts. So he's doing the same.
Starting point is 00:51:12 So that's what he do. He'll save it all. And then Saturday he'll just like for three hours in a row, he'll play video games with his friends. And that's how he enjoys it. And that's fine. But it's teaching them that skill and watching observing is really, really cool. But here's the thing I'm going to try
Starting point is 00:51:26 now with processed foods and stuff like that. So I don't treat processed foods like they're total poison. And I'm not the super crazy tyrant. I'm always trying to play that balancing act because my kids still have to live in this world, right? And so I don't want to create that kind of relationship with food where they rebel. They go off to college or they're like, oh, my dad was so oppressive with food. Now I'm just gonna eat whatever I want to have a deal because you can do that or create a
Starting point is 00:51:52 eating disorder or something like, right? So I don't want to do any of that stuff. So every once in a while, special events like I'll buy them these types of things. I want them to know that it's okay. Every once in a while it's not this evil thing, but it's probably better if we don't have it most of the time. Like the movies. Like when we go to the movies, I always get my kids a small popcorn, just something we do. But what I'm going to start doing now, because I've noticed how they're so good with managing their electronic time, is when we go to
Starting point is 00:52:15 the movies, I'll say, okay, kids, you know, I'm going to get you your popcorn or I'm going to give you an extra 30 minutes of electronic time if you don't get the popcorn. And I'm going to let them start to play with that trade. And now that's up to me, of course, how much time I'll give them for whatever. That's just an example. But I want to see, I want them to start to prioritize things that they want more than the other and just learn that skill. And so I'm something I thought about this more.
Starting point is 00:52:40 That's interesting. I like that. Yeah, we've implemented a whole new idea as well, which is somewhat based off of that sort of a reward thing, but also like you earn it. So we have a board that I've actually taken. So my kids have done certain chores and they can earn a certain amount of money for whatever they're doing and I've already kind of established some kind of like an economy with that, you know
Starting point is 00:53:09 Like okay this equates to this and like just on a real small level of like you know real tough tasks You know like you mean like the trash is a dollar. Yeah, I do dishes after it's seven dollars And if you mow the lawn that's ten dollars exactly. Okay, cool exactly So they understand that already that each one carries a little more weight and we have too been monitoring a lot of their electronic time as well. But so what I've done that's been a little bit more powerful
Starting point is 00:53:37 is actually taking that the cash of that money and then put it in like the different slots for the different activities. So they actually see it as they walk upstairs, they see the cash and then they just get self motivated to work towards that cash. And then that cash can pay for like, like you said, like a more electronic time or like like Legos
Starting point is 00:54:02 or whatever. So those are skills, those are so valuable because a lot of kids don't have those skills because whatever they want to get right in front of them. And so then in the real world, you know, if you'd have, what a brilliant idea. Very smart. Yeah, so they have to, they would have to now purchase
Starting point is 00:54:17 their time. They purchase just like any other economy that were part of it, right? Such a great lesson because this is an adult if you did want to muck out on the issues. You'd have to buy it. You know what I'm saying? You had to buy it and you'd have to sacrifice working
Starting point is 00:54:30 and making more money for that time. And you'd have to find a balancer else you'd be broke because you can't just spend money all the time and not work for that. So what a great fucking way to teach that lesson. When your kids start to identify with that or understand that, you start to see it in other behaviors. Like, you know, one thing that I always,
Starting point is 00:54:47 since birth with my kids that I try to, to, you know, to instill in them is the value of hard work and how, and over talent over anything. Like I rarely ever tell my kids, you're super smart, you're super talented, whatever, not because I don't think that they are, or I don't think they have any talents, but because I want them to value the hard work
Starting point is 00:55:08 that went into it instead of the natural ability. So like my son's super good at math. Like he's, and you know, he scores really, really high in academics. I don't sit down and tell him, hey, you're brilliant. In fact, what I tend to do is I sit down with him and I say, look, a lot of these things come easy to you. So you're going to need to figure out how to challenge yourself
Starting point is 00:55:28 and push yourself because you're going to do better than a lot of other kids just in it's easy. And so what the crazy thing is, last night, again, because of the electronic thing, right? It's like seven o'clock or seven, thirty at night, and the kids are up for another couple hours or whatever and we're sitting around. And my son's like, hey, can we watch a movie together?
Starting point is 00:55:44 Because it doesn't count on the time if we all do it as a family. So I'm like, no, I'm probably gonna go to bed early tonight and I need you some work, so sorry, I'm not gonna be able to watch TV with you. But you can go if you wanna read or whatever, it's up to you. So he looks at me and he goes,
Starting point is 00:55:57 you know what I'm gonna do? He goes, I'm gonna go upstairs and do, they have this weekly homework that they're supposed to do and studying. He's like, I'm gonna go up and do that and I'm like, what? He's voluntarily choosing to do that. So I go upstairs after about 30 minutes or so
Starting point is 00:56:12 and he's doing it still. And I'm like, why are you, why'd you choose to do this instead of reading your books and stuff like that? And he goes, well, he goes, I have the time. He goes, I think I'm gonna do this because I like getting good grades and this is something I want to work towards. After about the 20 minutes, I think I'll start reading.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I didn't say anything else. I just left. But to see it in action, to see that your kid starts to make those decisions and what you're doing is working. Because sometimes I'll tell you man, it's hard as a parent dude because nobody wants, you don't want your kids to hate you. And let me tell you something right now, as a divorced father. That's even more pressure.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Way harder. Because especially if mom is on the other side, feeding them crap, letting them play video games whenever they want. Or, or, and the good news is, for the most part, we work together really well, me and my ex, but really here's what it comes down to. You know, we got divorced.
Starting point is 00:57:00 There's a lot of guilt that goes through your mind as a parent when you do that, because it's tough for the kids. It's very tough. No matter how great you make it, it's going to be hard. You get to change homes, you get to, you know, mom, dad's not living at home anymore. It's a lot of different things. All I want to do is make my kids like me.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I just want to make life nice for them. So you know how hard it is to like tell my kids you can't do something or to kind of, you know, be a parent. It's very, very hard. It's a very difficult thing to do. But then when you see the behaviors, you know, be a parent. It's very, very hard, very difficult thing to do, but then when you see the behaviors, you know, it's like, okay, man, and you know, and your kids thrive on it.
Starting point is 00:57:30 It's not, here's the thing, like, they call it spoiling your kids for a reason. Your, it's like spoiling fruit or spoiling food. You're making your kid bad. Like, they're not gonna be a great, they're not gonna be as fruitful in an adult, as fulfilled as an adult, as it can be, if you are afraid of laying down the law sometimes,
Starting point is 00:57:51 you gotta do that sometimes, and food is one of those things, and parents are fucking run ragged by their kids. You know what times I had parents tell me, oh my, oh, you know, I wanna feed my kids, you know, vegetables, but they just won't eat it, and all they wanna eat is chicken nuggets and pasta So that's all we give them otherwise they won't eat. It's like actually I'd like to test that theory
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Starting point is 00:58:46 Our first question is from Beth Leanne. Tips on staying on track with your diet when your partner buys snacks and treats for you and always wants to eat out. You know what? So this is just you and your partner. Um, well, I hate to tell you this, but you are responsible for yourself. Right. And that's pretty much it. You know? Well, you just have to evaluate how important that is. And this is, in my opinion, part of, as you get older and you date,
Starting point is 00:59:18 lots of different people, a lot of that isn't like you figuring out the person that you want. It's more about you figuring out what's important to you and your value system. And, you know, something that I didn't piece together, even being a trainer, like I was a trainer, but it wasn't necessary that I had a girl that was a trainer or in the health and fitness space or hardcore into working out and dieting. So I did it a lot of really awesome chicks that were pretty and took decent care of themselves but also didn't value eating really good or making sacrificed to be healthy.
Starting point is 00:59:57 They just didn't care about that stuff as much and it kind of wore on me a little bit but it wasn't like a game, I'm done with this girl because she likes to eat too much pasta, but it wasn't like a game, like, oh, I'm gonna be done with this girl because she likes to eat too much pasta, like it wasn't like that. But what I realized after every relationship, when I'd be single again,
Starting point is 01:00:13 is one of the things I love to do is to take care of myself and train and eat correctly and do that. And I started to piece it together after it took a while of relationships before I realized like, I want a partner that this is important because it's so important to me,
Starting point is 01:00:27 because I'm not fully loving myself when I'm not taking care of myself, like as far as food choices and things like that. And so, and I'll be the first to admit that I need help. I was raised in a home that I was able to eat all those things. So I battle with my own desires and wanted to say, oh, fuck it, just go eat whatever. And I know better.
Starting point is 01:00:45 So I also want a partner who has similar goals in that area because I know that I'm not going to be perfect all the time. And if I have somebody who's constantly pulling me towards the snacks, the candies, the eating out all the time, I know that I'll probably eventually give into that more than I like to. And then I end up resenting myself because I don't like the way I look and feel.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And so really this is about you and your values. Now that may not be you. You may not feel like you need a partner who cares about health the same way you do and you have the discipline to do what you need to do regardless what they do. Kind of what Sal was saying like this is on you. So it's either on you to make the right choices or it's on you to figure out if this is something that's important that you find in your partner.
Starting point is 01:01:31 So a lot of reflection. Well, and you just really have to communicate that it's important with your partner. And I think that a lot of times, you know, you're on separate paths and it doesn't really get discussed a lot. I'm really trying to do this and I want you to come on board
Starting point is 01:01:51 but there's no real conversation that's like, this is really important to me and these are things that I value. I value and I want you to support me in this and really just lay it down and be like, this is something that I'm trying to do. I would really like you to support me in this. You know, if you don't have that conversation,
Starting point is 01:02:09 they're not gonna understand that. You know, and this becomes a problem. It becomes a problem when two people meet and they start dating, and then one of them starts to figure out eating healthy and starts to take care of themselves. And so that's when it really becomes a problem because rare, I think it's more rare to see somebody who's really into health and wellness, date someone who's not right out the gates. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:34 That's not true. Typically, I do it a lot. It's more rare. It's not as common. You know what I'm saying? I think it depends on where you're at in your life. Like, I don't know who this person is in their profile. And if they're before 30 years old, it's way common. I think that's less common as a 35, 38, 39 year old
Starting point is 01:02:50 man to go find a woman that's like, if we were all single now, right? Was if we were all single and on the dating market, right? And swipe and left, then we literally would not all day pick somebody who's not in that because we know ourselves because we know how important it is. So we wouldn't even gravitate towards a person that didn't have similar values. Now when you're in your 20s, and everybody looks decent, even when they eat shitty food,
Starting point is 01:03:13 you know what I'm saying? Or have bad choices or bad habits. I mean, I did a lot of like modeled like chicks that like ate literally jack-in-a-box and carrots. Like that's what they had. And they looked awesome. I mean, awesome enough to make magazines and do things like that. But that's what they had. And they looked awesome. I mean, awesome enough to make magazines and do things like that.
Starting point is 01:03:25 But that's what I mean. It's not really a problem until one person realizes it's super important to them. It's basically my point. And I mean, you're right, if someone's in their 20s and they're really kind of eating right, and it's more rare to find someone in their 20s who's really into health and wellness.
Starting point is 01:03:41 More, it's more common to find someone in their 20s who eats a particular way to look a particular way. Like I get that, like in my 20s,'s really into health and wellness. More, it's more common to find someone of their 20s who eats a particular way to look a particular way. Like I get that, like in my 20s look, here's a deal. I ate a particular way, but it wasn't for health and wellness. It was because I wanted to look buffed. I really didn't care about the other stuff. And so my choices weren't necessarily driven by health.
Starting point is 01:03:59 So that's, I think when it becomes a problem, when it becomes a big problem is when you have a partner that you have a child with. Now there's a big problem, because now how do we feed the kids? Your values system is different. Yeah, how do we feed the kid now? Because it's one thing for you
Starting point is 01:04:13 to feed yourself a particular way, and you don't want to take care of yourself, and maybe I've accepted that in whatever, but when it comes to a child that's also my kid, now this may be an issue, because I think they need you to particular weight For their health and you don't think it's that important and I feel like you're harming the kid that that's when it can become a problem But at the end of the day here's a deal
Starting point is 01:04:36 Who is it more of a bigger who's a more of a pain in the ass? The person who doesn't eat healthy and just buys lots of snacks with so the person who eats healthy, and we'll eat all those snacks. The reality is, you're probably a big or a pain in the ass of the other person, and that's okay. My point is, don't give in. If they buy a bunch of food and want to eat out, and you're like, no, I don't want to eat there because it's not really that healthy. Maybe they'll get the, maybe if they really want to be with you, they'll be like, okay, fine, we'll eat out somewhere that I know you'll want to eat. A lot of people, a lot of my friends and family think I'm a pain in the ass because of that.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I can't tell you any times, people will throw a party and then they'll be like, well what's salghen, because I know I'm not gonna eat the Domino's pizza and the cupcakes. And so many times I'll tell them, well don't worry, I won't eat anything, I'm fine. And then they feel guilty and they're like, well we'll make some, you know, something else for you
Starting point is 01:05:22 or whatever, in middle of water. Yeah, just kinda, you know, oh dude. There or whatever. In mineral water. Yeah, just kind of, you know, oh, dude, there's a stupid you go. I think demeaning you. It's so funny. We, you know, Jessica and I went to her friends, kids, birthday party. And there wasn't anything there that I really could eat or wanted to eat, right? So people were coming up to be like, Hey, how come you're not eating any food and whatever? And I could tell they're taking it personal. And so it's hard to explain to them why
Starting point is 01:05:48 without them taking it personal. So I'm just telling them, and usually would I'll say to people, if I want a lie just to get out of it or whatever, as I'll say, oh, I have an intolerance to that food or I have a bad stomach right now. People usually leave me alone when I say something like that. Nobody will feed you if you tell me I've died.
Starting point is 01:06:02 I'm a person, yeah, trust me. It's coming out tough. Yeah, if I had that. But yeah, it's you tell me I've died. I trust my, it's coming out top. But yeah, it's, you know, here's a thing like, you got to decide how important it is to you that your partner, especially if it's a, you know, it's tough when you have a partner and you can see, and witness their poor health. So besides the aesthetics, like yeah, if they're getting overweight and you're pretty fit, I mean, you're not attracted to any more to them anymore.
Starting point is 01:06:27 Like, I get that, but when you notice that they're like more lazy or their moods are shifting a lot, and you know, like, oh man, it's because you're not eating really healthy. You know, you gotta decide how important it is to you because if this is a very important thing to you, like if you're a Christian
Starting point is 01:06:43 and it's super important, your religion's really important to you, it might be hard for you to date an atheist or a Satan worshipper. You know, so. So if you're really, really healthy. It's like cupcakes or broccoli. It's Satan.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Since nutrition is like religion. It's well, I mean, it's a thing. I give it super important to you and they're the opposite of that. You might not last very long. You might wanna talk to them about it. But otherwise, just worry about yourself, just do your thing and either they'll come along
Starting point is 01:07:10 and follow you or you'll start to get sick of them and maybe it won't work out. Next question is from Naturally Brittany. I'm 24 weeks pregnant and I've been lifting weights the entire pregnancy with plans to continue through to the end. My question is, should I be concerned about my recruitment patterns changing as my belly and body is drastically changing?
Starting point is 01:07:32 If so, what would you recommend? Do recruitment patterns change as your baby grows and your belly grows? Absolutely, of course it is. It's supposed to. So recruitment patterns are, you know, and I'm going to just give you a real general explanation. This is how your muscles fire, which ones fire harder, the, you know, which ones fire first, which ones stay fired, which ones relax. And that's what gives you your movement. Well, when your baby's growing, your abs and your bleeks and your transverse abdominis, they stretch out.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Stretched way out. And your hip flexors actually start to support you a lot more and that's normal. And there's nothing wrong with changing recruitment patterns. The reason why they change is they're changing in a way to make you better at what you do a lot of. So if you write a bike a lot, if you run a lot, if you sit a lot, if you're pregnant, your recruitment patterns will change to make you more efficient at that particular, you know, whatever it is you're doing a lot of.
Starting point is 01:08:30 The problem or the challenge becomes after you have the baby because now you have an old recruitment pattern that benefited you while you were pregnant and you had a, you know, big belly and now your belly goes down and you're not pregnant anymore, but you've got this old pattern. So what you need to do is you need to train the pattern to be now more beneficial towards your body the way it is now.
Starting point is 01:08:54 And one of the most effective exercises you can do for post pregnancy for that is the vacuum. Vacuum poses. What a great exercise. The other one too is, and we have videos of this, maybe we'll put them in the show notes. There's a video for vacuum. We also have a video for all tests as well.
Starting point is 01:09:13 Yeah, wall test, and then also, you know, the hip flexor deactivator crunches that I showed on that video that one time, to get people to activate, you know, their core. Which seems, it seems very hard. I know my wife went through this whole process too, was inactive at all. It couldn't really even feel anything
Starting point is 01:09:33 for a long time in her abs. And it turned off. Yeah, it gets frustrating, but it literally takes super consistent reps and just day after day of really focusing and trying to localize that area to activate again. And then sure enough, you know, once you get it to respond, you know, things start to kind of go back to,
Starting point is 01:09:58 you know, the way they were. What did we ever do with that pregnancy suit and wig that we had? I burned it. Did you guys are gonna make me wear it? We don't have it. We don't have it anymore? Justin.
Starting point is 01:10:10 No, we should still have it up on the loft there. Really? Yeah. We should do that. We need to do that. Pregnancy series. Yeah, we were going to do a whole pregnancy series. We're going to put Justin in a pregnancy suit and give him a wig.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah. Why Justin? He's got the best cakes. I looked like I got some good hips for birth. I don't know. give him a wig. Yeah. Why Justin? He's got the best cakes. I looked like I got some good hips for birth. I don't know. Have you guys have trained a lot of pregnant women? Yeah, all the way up until the day they pop, man.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Yeah, I think it's one of the probably silliest things that I'd hear doctors like tell their patients, right? That they, oh, you shouldn't exercise. Don't do this. Don't do that. I'm like, oh, you shouldn't exercise, don't do this, don't do that. I'm like, oh, you're already telling people that are looking for excuses not to do fucking shit, and then you, it's like, it's so easy.
Starting point is 01:10:52 And it's tough for me to sit by, got family members, get my sister right now, just had a baby and the same thing, like they basically prescribed being in bed to her, you know, saying I'm like, Well, some cultures, they do, they, like, you're on bed rest, like, you can't move, like, it's interesting
Starting point is 01:11:05 It's and then you see the other extreme of that you have like a you know our our girl Grace that's in our forum Posting videos of her Train do pull ups and yeah just savage and look how amazing she looks the bounce back in the turnover It's so amazing to watch You know when you when you keep in maintained fitness levels going in the pregnancy. What is grace she's on what, two or three? She's on three kids I think she has. Maybe, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:29 And your body looks bad, dude. You wouldn't even know that she had a kid just literally like she's on four. And it was like, there was a video she posted in the forum where it was like, I don't know, weeks after. And she was like, working out. And you're like, you can't tell, she just had a baby. I had the contrast between the clients that I would that I trained who would work out before
Starting point is 01:11:48 during an after pregnancy Them versus people who don't do that the difference is dramatic like massive in terms of How they felt during their pregnancy So less back pain less discomfort., more energy, they felt better. And their health post pregnancy, like how they felt afterwards and how quickly they bounce back to feeling really, really good. Balance is out hormones better, it's actually better for the baby,
Starting point is 01:12:20 baby is actually born a little bit leaner. They're now showing that there's some studies that suggest and there's nothing concrete, but I definitely would place my money at that this is the case. That women who exercise before, during and after their baby's IQs are higher. There's actually some studies that suggest that that may actually be the case. It's just better health. I think resistance training is the best form of exercise for pregnant women. I think it's the best form of exercise for a lot of people, but especially for pregnant women, because resistance training is so moldable.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Like, if you're a runner, at some point you've got to stop running if you can't run with weights, man, I can apply weights to... I've had paraplegics coming in about training too. You can modify and mold resistance training for pretty much anybody. So if you're pregnant and you find like, oh, I can't do that exercise anymore, modify it or I can't do that. That's something you can do. Yeah, you'll be able to work out even regardless of how your body's feeling. And then post pregnancy, all the strengthening of the hips,
Starting point is 01:13:28 so the two areas that I would always focus on with pregnant women post pregnancy after they had their child when they were cleared was strengthening the transverse abdominis and the core, just because that was inactive, when the weather were pregnant, and then hips, because you start to notice hip dysfunction sometimes, just because they've had
Starting point is 01:13:48 to push a baby out, and those areas tend to loosen up anyway. And so I will do lots of hip exercises and stuff strengthening. So 90, 90, and connecting to the different positions of 90, 90 would also be good post pregnancy. But I, shit man, I got known for this, especially when I had my studio, my wellness studio, is my clients would have their babies,
Starting point is 01:14:11 and then they bring their babies in, and I would train them with their kids, because those my play, so babies were welcome. And many times I would hold the babies and play with them while the mom would work out, or would use the baby as resistance. So if the mom was doing an overhead press, and the baby was getting a little fussy or whatever,
Starting point is 01:14:26 so we'd have fun, and she'd do overhead presses with the baby and focus on her posture or her form, or she would do variations of crunches with the baby on her chest and do that kind of stuff. And so it was kind of fun and they enjoyed it. And for me, it was good for business because they didn't stop working out, and they continued coming,
Starting point is 01:14:43 and I developed this great relationship with these people. In fact, some of these kids call me Uncle Sal to this day, which is pretty funny because they were in my gym while they were in their mom's womb and afterwards. But yeah, your recruitment patterns do change. The right kind of training post pregnancy will get them right back to where you want them to be. Our next question is from Dbreak 3. If my strength keeps increasing while I'm following Maps and Obolic, does that mean my
Starting point is 01:15:10 metabolism is also speeding up? You're welcome. That's what happens, man. That's what's awesome when you're following a great program. You start to build muscle, metabolism kicks up. I would say... Feet to beast. I would say strength gains are a pretty good sign
Starting point is 01:15:26 that your metabolic rate is increasing. I don't think it's 100% guaranteed, but I don't know, can you guys think of a more clear sign than that? If I have a client who's trying to get leaner and they're losing body fat and they're getting stronger, typically I'm like, oh cool, your metabolism is not necessarily adapting to slow down, right? Because we're in a very, body fat and they're getting stronger. Typically I'm like, oh cool, your metabolism's not
Starting point is 01:15:45 necessarily adapting to slow down, right? Because we're in a very, I always say we're in a nice sweet spot too. I mean, that's where you want to be. You want to be in this place where you can actually see yourself reducing body fat, which is hard, right? To be in a place where you see your waistline coming down and then you actually see strength going up.
Starting point is 01:16:03 That's, you are there. You're in the sweet spot because if you, if you cut too many calories, a really good sign that you're cutting too much calories is you see a decrease in strength pretty rapidly afterwards. Even if you see the weight loss or the fat loss like you want, many times people overdo it and they cut so much or they over-trained
Starting point is 01:16:21 to lose the body fat. And one of the first signals of that is that you start to lose strength. So somebody who is losing body fat, right? And their metabolism speeding up and they see their waistline going down. And you see strength going. I mean, you're in that sweet spot, man. You've honed in on the Holy Grail, right? Yes, strength.
Starting point is 01:16:39 You're driving forward. Strength gains are one of my, is my favorite, easiest signal to read with people. Like if I have somebody who says, you know, I have HP access dysfunction, where the hormones are kind of off, or if I have a guy who's, you know, does he really say that?
Starting point is 01:16:56 HP, well, I'm using the right stone. HP access dysfunction. I never had so many. I get people like that, you know, probably because I talk about it. I'm a fuck yeah. But, you know, whatever, adrenal fatigue, slow metabolism, you know, like, you know, my hormones are off. And when I, when their strength starts to go up,
Starting point is 01:17:14 like I know, like, okay, we're definitely on the right track. Now, you know, it's funny about this whole metabolism speeding up thing, because we talk about it so much, about getting metabolism faster. I also want people to know that just speeding up your metabolism isn't necessarily a good or great thing. It's not necessarily a bad thing either. It's just in the context of modern life, you're probably better off with the metabolism that burns more calories, right? Because you're not
Starting point is 01:17:41 going to be moving as much. Modern life is sedative. You're surrounded by all this food, all the time, hyper-palatable food. Well, you've brought that example a few times with that tribe that, yeah, they basically had a slow, metal, they didn't burn as many calories as like people that were studying them thought because it wasn't advantageous towards them, you know, going on these miles to find food and to hunt
Starting point is 01:18:06 and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, the hodza tribe, the HADZA, I think it is. You can actually look this up, but what they did is they, they threw pretty sophisticated means, tested their metabolic rates, and these are modern hunter-gatherers, and they thought, oh, they're gonna be burning,
Starting point is 01:18:22 you know, three times as many calories as the average person. Right, they're running around everywhere. And it wasn't that much more, it was actually a small amount more, and which makes sense, the body's gonna adapt because you can't just have this crazy rowing metabolism all the time when you're, you know, a hunter gather because then you wouldn't have enough food. It's just a portion.
Starting point is 01:18:42 A little away to it. It's nothing. But yeah, if your strength is going up, that's a great, great sign. It's also a great sign that your hormones are in check. I mean, I don't know, Adam, when you were doing the hormone thing, did you notice, like, I'm sure you noticed, right? A big change in how strength was restored.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Oh, I've been, you know, obviously since I've started this whole process, I get tons of DMs, probably this is probably one of the most popular thing that I talk about in my DMs right now is my metabolism and how I feel on my hormones and my sex drive and all that stuff. And you know, all these things that I'm using, you know, I'm using the Jew, I'm using the infrared, we've got our products that we're using with workana 5.
Starting point is 01:19:18 I've got all these different things. I've got the supplements that you recommended to me that I've used. Like, I'm doing all this stuff right and I've methodically implemented all of them so I can kind of get an idea of how each of them are you know respond. Which one does what? Yeah, which one does what which one's helping me the most and and a lot of them have definitely showed benefits and I and I've I've incorporated all them but it's like you have all these things right the red lights the supplements the herbs the diet all the stuff that I think is really helping. And
Starting point is 01:19:48 then strength training is literally in its league of its own for this. And it's almost been a blessing in disguise that this I've gone through all this to really cement this and even my own brain because it was hard for me to get motivated to train at that when I was going through all this really, really hard. I've never felt this before where I mean, I love fitness. I love working out. And, you know, I never felt so unmotivated to get to the gym and live some weights with my sex drive, my libido's down like crazy, my testosterone level super obviously super low.
Starting point is 01:20:25 So I don't have that oomph to get inside the gym when I do actually get inside the gym. I'm weak, I'm fatigued, I'm tired, it's hard, all these things, right? But what I've recognized, and it was really quick, it was like the first time I did it, like the first like, I remember you lifted weights and then you came in the next day and you're like, fuck. Yeah, I was and so and thank God I felt that because that was really what, you know, made lead to day two and then day three and, you know, so on and so forth where I'm at now. And now I'm a little over a month and a half or so of being consistent with my lifting. And I'm only training about three days a week right now. I haven't ramped up my, I just started to kind of slowly ramp up my volume.
Starting point is 01:21:01 I'm going to transition into one of our maps programs now. I feel like my body's getting ready. It's ready for that to take on that much volume, but it was really not that much, but the impact that it made on my hormones was insane. Like it's right away, I sort of notice my libido, which is the easiest way for me to measure. I'm in a relationship, I can count how many times
Starting point is 01:21:20 I want to have sex. I can pay attention if I even have the desire to masturbate. I can see all these things. So for me, that's a very, very easy thing for me to to chill to tell when I start adding these things in. And when you first gave me those supplements and I was doing the infrared, it gave me a nice little bump. Like I definitely felt that like sex drive kicked up a little bit. I felt a little better energy, a better attitude, tiny bit. When I started training and started getting really consistent with that again.
Starting point is 01:21:46 It's not a compare. It could train, it was just telling me tonight, I mean, she was just like, you feel like I feel like you're back to normal right now. I'm like, I wouldn't say I'm back to normal yet, you know, I'm not there yet, but I feel really good. And I definitely attribute 90% of that to the strength training. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:22:03 Lifting weights, the ultimate aphrodisiac. Next question is from Lil Hammy. I've been a personal trainer for about seven months now and keep coming across male clients that want to start lifting straight away even though it's obvious that they're not ready. As a female, I don't want to emasculate them, but I want them to understand the importance of creating proper movement patterns, fixing imbalances, and that starting from scratch is their best approach.
Starting point is 01:22:32 I explain this to them, but half the time they just tell me they'd rather just have their asses kicked and put on mass right away. What is the best way to explain this to them? This is the eternal struggle. This is tough question, actually. It doesn't just happen to women. to them? That's the eternal struggle. This is tough question actually. It doesn't just happen to women. A female trainer's happens to male trainer. Right, well it's E, we're talking about Ego here.
Starting point is 01:22:50 Well I have some tips. In fact I have something that I'm actually going to do for somebody literally today and I already have this plan. And I've got this female client of mine. Actually she knows her way around the gym and she's been training off and on maps for the last two years. But what I know she hasn't been doing and she's getting up so she's been training off and on maps for the last two years. But what I know she hasn't been doing, and she's getting up in her 30s now, is I know she hasn't been addressing her imbalances.
Starting point is 01:23:12 I know she hasn't been doing good mobility work. I know that she needs that, and I know that I can give that to her. So far, I've allowed her just to kind of follow our programs and get in better shape and by aesthetics, right? We haven't addressed her other issues because I haven't trained her privately. Well, she's coming in to see me today, she's a friend of mine, and the plan today.
Starting point is 01:23:30 And I know, and this is my experience talking now. Like, old me would try and make them do the mobility moves and force them into that, and then hear them afterwards. Like, well, I really just wanted to get a workout. I didn't even get a sweat in. And all we did was stuff on the floor, and this and that, and then they don't ever come back again because they want to get there.
Starting point is 01:23:48 And they go hire some other trainer, who's just gonna beat them up. And so, you gotta find these ways of like, kind of educating them along the way, giving them a little bit about what they want, but then also educating them at the same time. One of the ways that I'll do this with her today is I'm gonna allow her to get into her squat right away.
Starting point is 01:24:03 Like, wet, right, we'll go to the squat rack, do your squats, and I'm gonna let her do a couple sets, and I'm gonna allow her to get into her squat, right away, like, where I will go to the squat rack, do your squats, and I'm gonna let her do a couple sets and I'm gonna video her. And then after I video her doing some squats, I'm then gonna take her away, and then I'm gonna do some work on her that I already know because I've seen her squat, and I'm gonna make her do some combat stretch, work on some 90-90s,
Starting point is 01:24:20 and then I'm gonna do our zone one test with her. That's it, just three, even though I know she could use a bunch more, I'm gonna pick three that I know that are really impactful. I know that she's got limiting range on her ankle mobility. I know her hips need work, and I know for sure she's got a little bit of forward shoulder, like almost every fucking client you'll ever get. So I'll take those three things,
Starting point is 01:24:36 and I'm gonna do three or four rounds of that, and then I'm gonna take her back to the squat, and then I'm gonna have her squat again. And then I'm gonna show her the contra. I'll video it, and then together we'll look at it and I'll show her how important that is that I can do that in one fucking visit with me. I can show you how much better your body moves.
Starting point is 01:24:53 And I already know, because I've done this a bunch of times, that when she gets into that squat and she does it, she'll feel better. The squat will feel better, she'll feel stronger, and then I'll be able to take the video of her, which is great that we have these tools that I didn't have when I first started as a trainer, and I'll be able to show her, look at your movement,
Starting point is 01:25:11 and I'll pause the video, and I'll point out different contact points, like where her feet were probably pronating before, where she's falling forward, where her weight was probably shifting to the front of her toes, and I can point out all these things. And that's all I gotta do. I think if you do things like that,
Starting point is 01:25:25 where you're not telling them they can't get a hard workout, or you can't do these exercises, because you technically, and I used to do this as a trainer, I used to scare people into... Scare them into the clothes. Yeah, scare them into the clothes on all the corrective stuff that they do.
Starting point is 01:25:37 I needed the same guy. Yeah, it was a tactic that I would do to sell them because everybody's dysfunctional, everybody's fucked up somehow, and I have the answers to help you. Regardless, if you just want to lose 30 pounds of fat and look better, I know I can teach you all these other things, and then I would make people do that. I like that even better, because yeah, my go-to would be to take them through the mobility
Starting point is 01:25:57 and all that, and then throw them on the squat, but then to see the contrast and then actually have that visual in their head would be such a more powerful way to break through that ego because the ego, they know how much they can lift in that particular exercise, right? So they don't want that to go away. So for you to be able to kind of point out what's going on with their body and then also like if there's any like, inkling of pain from their joints or you're just sort of prompting them with all these seeds and ideas and of what's going on and then what to feel and like really kind of taking them through it.
Starting point is 01:26:34 It's like winning an argument, right? If you ever earn an argument or debate with somebody and all you do is go back and argue your points back and forth, nothing ever gets done. So when someone says something, even if I don't agree with it, like, I'm going to let them know that, like, I understand what they're saying. And then, then what I'll do is absorb that information,
Starting point is 01:26:54 go with it for a second, and then I'll come back around, and I'll explain my point. So it's kind of like the same thing that you do in a discussion back and forth with somebody, is I'm not gonna tell them, that's wrong, or that's gonna hurt you, or that's bad for you, or you can't do that.
Starting point is 01:27:07 It's like, absolutely, you can do that. In fact, if you didn't have me, you probably go do it on your own, because you're already telling me that's what you wanna do. So I'm gonna give you a little bit about what you want. I'm gonna give you what you want, because that's what you're asking for. But then I'm gonna find another way to come back around
Starting point is 01:27:19 and educate you on why you may wanna listen to me and go this way, because it's almost like, can I now show you another way? Yeah, you know, like show me yours. I'll show you mine. Yeah, you know what I, the scene from a days of thunder, I love it, it reminds me of the struggle that Tom Cruise has with Robert DeVol,
Starting point is 01:27:38 where he's telling him he's trying to get coach him on how to drive the car and he knows because he's a better racer. And he says listen, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna run 50 laps the way you wanna run 50 laps. And. We're gonna run 50 laps the way you want to run 50 laps. And then we're gonna run 50 laps the way I want to run 50 laps. And then he shows them the tires afterwards. Here's you, you went through fucking way more tires.
Starting point is 01:27:53 We were here as me and we shaved two minutes off of our time or whatever it was. So same thing. Here's the other thing too, you want to always keep this in mind. When people hire you to train them, they are, you're the expert. Okay, so, and this is you're the expert. Okay. So, and this is why this is important to understand. And I used to see this more so with female clients, training male clients in the reverse.
Starting point is 01:28:12 And I think again, it's because in like this situation, you know, you've got the guy with the big strong ego, you're the female trainer, and you may feel less confident in what you're saying. So, remember, you're the expert and be confident in what you're saying. So remember, you're the expert and be confident in what you're saying. People, clients actually like it for the most part when a trainer says something like, listen, I know what I'm doing, we're gonna do it my way.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Sometimes, a lot of times people like that because they wanna kinda give up and give the control away and say, okay, you're the trainer, I'll just do what you want. So, speak with authority, speak with confidence, sell what you're trying to sell. In this case, you're trying to sell correctional movement patterns, so know what you're talking about
Starting point is 01:28:54 so you can sell it well. You may want to use some examples like Adam was describing where you show them the difference between doing it one way and doing the other. And then sell and show, look, this is why we're gonna do it this way, because if you move better, you're gonna build more muscle. If you move better, you're gonna get stronger,
Starting point is 01:29:08 eventually, than you will, moving the wrong way. I know what I'm talking about, I'm the trainer. Let's, we're gonna do it my way. And people, a lot of times, will respond well to that kind of confidence. But it's, look, this happens to all trainers. It happens to me all the time, where I'd get, you know, male, female, client doesn't matter,
Starting point is 01:29:26 and they'll come in and be like, I just wanna lose 30 pounds. I just wanna work out and get real sweaty and get real sore. And then I'd sit down and say, look, here's the deal. I can do that for you, but here's what's gonna happen as a result of it. Or we can do it this way in which it'll take a little longer at first, but it'll stay off, you'll feel better,
Starting point is 01:29:43 you'll have more muscle, and you'll have a faster metabolism at the end of it. So are you gonna trust me, or are you gonna do this your own way? In which case I ask you why'd you hire me in the first place? And clients like to hear that kind of confidence. So be very confident in what you're saying, show them that you have some authority, explain what's going on and tell them how you're gonna do it
Starting point is 01:30:04 and how you're gonna train them, sell it well, and usually you'll be okay. And sometimes you won't be, sometimes a client will be like, no, I wanna do it this way, in which case, then you gotta make the decision whether or not you should train them or not. And there's been a couple times, not very many, but a couple times where I've taken a client so well,
Starting point is 01:30:20 in which case I'm not gonna train you. Actually, one client in the times of the whole time I owned my personal training studio was, did only one time did I have somebody where I told them I'd stop training them and they were just fucked. There was no way they were gonna do what I was telling them. But every other time I've had these types of debates
Starting point is 01:30:38 with people and with women it's the opposite. I think sometimes I'll have female clients that don't wanna lift heavier because they're scared of building muscle. But you get the guys who want to put too much weight on the bar I always communicate to people like this too like I speak in like For in general for a lack of a better word right when I'm speaking to them I go you know most people when they train they want to do you know I'm saying moat But I'm really talking to them right so I So I'm talking to clients. I had a client once that. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 01:31:05 So I do that a lot of times versus attacking them on their idea or what they want from you. Because if you do that, they're gonna put a wall up and then I'm gonna be receptive. So when someone tells me, I just wanna get my ass kicked, I go, yeah, yeah, don't worry, we're gonna kick some ass. I promise you, you know what I'm saying? So we're gonna kick some ass for sure.
Starting point is 01:31:19 And then I tell, then I'll come back around and kind of tell them, oh man, a lot of times when I get clients, they wanna come in, they wanna train really hard, and these are the things that happen. And this is why they don't come back around and kind of tell them, oh man, a lot of times when I get clients, they want to come in, they want to train really hard, and these are the things that happen. And this is why you don't want to do that. And this is why this is a better approach. And so you educate like that versus getting it into a debate on them and what they want to do with their wrong, your right.
Starting point is 01:31:36 It's like, no, go ahead and agree with what they're saying. Sure, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then come back around and I speak to them in general, like I said, like where I'm just talking to them as, most people or lots of people that I train like want this and this is why it's not a good idea. And another thing that's very powerful and it's understated is setting the stage.
Starting point is 01:31:55 So what I mean by that is client hires you, you sit down before you're gonna go work out and you say, okay, what are your goals? Let's say he says, my goal is to build a lot of muscles. Excellent, that's one of my specialties goal is to build a lot of muscles. Excellent. You know, that's one of my specialties. Now here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna focus on this first
Starting point is 01:32:10 because if I can get you to have good recruitment patterns, we're gonna get way more out of the exercises and you'll build way more, so break it down and explain them before you go out on the workout floor because this is a tough discussion to have on the workout floor. Like I'm taking you out and the guy saying,
Starting point is 01:32:26 oh, I wanna add more weight and then you're gonna have this discussion. Or ask a simple question, like are you looking just to lose as much weight as we can in the next seven weeks or do you want me to set you up for lifetime fitness, like forever? Like do you wanna be healthy and fit forever
Starting point is 01:32:38 or you just want me real quick to get you in the most shape we can in seven weeks? Because there is some truth to that. Like if I only got a few weeks with somebody and all they care about is as much weak, can we burn as much of this and do that? Like you're right, in a small window, a small study of four weeks,
Starting point is 01:32:52 I mean, absolutely, you could do a lot more than what I would probably do with you for sure. And so if that's all you care about, like well then let's do that. Just let, I just wanna let you know though if you want long term results, it's gonna look more like this and then you explain why. Absolutely. Just, I just want to let you know though, if you want long-term results, it's going to look more like this and then you explain why.
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