Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 773: Getting Rid of Shoulder Pain, CrossFit vs. Orange Theory & Best Body Composition Tracking Tools

Episode Date: May 18, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about addressing pain where the deltoid originates from the acromion process,  whether CrossFit or OrangeTheory is better for leaning out and the best way to measure and track body composition. Putting their Money Where their Mouth Is. Save and give back with Thrive Market! (3:52) Getting on Brand with Mind Pump. More on the Vuori event and the potential partnership with Brew Dr. Kombucha. (11:17) Sal’s Weird Relationship with the Jersey Shore show. (14:00) Human Behavior and Taking Action. Do or do not? (17:15) Westworld is Here! Google's New Voice Bot Sounds, Um, Maybe Too Real. (26:20) Nostalgia Humor. The follow up to The Karate Kid, Cobra Kai on YouTube Red. (28:15) Silly Ego Mentality. As Seattle ‘head tax’ debate rages, Amazon eyes major expansion in nearby city. (32:00) Amazon in it for the Long Game. Thoughts on Apple earning more money last quarter than Amazon ever has. (38:15) #Quah question #1 – Why am I feeling pain where the deltoid originates from the acromion process? (47:10) #Quah question #2 – What is better for leaning out, CrossFit or OrangeTheory? (57:44) #Quah question #3 – What is the best way to measure and track body composition? (1:07:29) Related Links/Products Mentioned: Thrive Market One FREE month’s membership $20 off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Vuori Clothing Brew Dr. Kombucha | Kombucha Made By a Tea Company Climate-Change True Believers Are Least Likely To Change Their Own Behavior, Study Finds Google's New Voice Bot Sounds, Um, Maybe Too Real Cobra Kai – YouTube MiiR | Product to Project™ Seattle Council expected to vote on controversial head tax today Venezuela's Cash Is Now Worth Less Than Currency in 'World of Warcraft' Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has generated during its lifetime Maps Prime Pro Bundle - Mind Pump People Mentioned: Jersey Shore (@JerseyShore)  Twitter Jeff Bezos (@JeffBezos)  Twitter Dr. Justin Brink (@premiere_spine_sport)  Instagram Melissa Wolf (@meliwolff) Instagram Also check out Thrive Market! Thrive Market makes purchasing organic, non-GMO affordable. With prices up to 50% off retail, Thrive Market blows away most conventional, non-organic foods. PLUS, they offer a NO RISK way to get started which includes: 1. One FREE month’s membership 2. $20 Off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) 3. Free shipping on orders of $49 or more How can you go wrong with this offer? To take advantage of this offer go to www.thrivemarket.com/mindpump You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS HIIT, an expertly programmed and phased High Intensity Interval Training program designed to maximize fat burn and improve conditioning. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of MIND, MOTHERFUCKERPOW! Yeah, yeah, yeah. For the first 40 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. We start off by talking about thrive market

and how when you save money money shopping on thrive at thrive market You actually will let you donate some of your savings to help other people save money and be a good person Makes you feel good now. They are the largest online retailer of non-gmo Organic food products that's have skin care products hair spray deodor, and other things that contribute to a healthy lifestyle. We are sponsored by them. If you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash mine pump, we got you hooked up. You're going to get one month free membership, $20 off your first three orders of $49 and more and free shipping. We also talked a little bit more about our Viori event and how we were serving beer, wine,

and brew doctor kombucha. And to our delight and shock, the most popular drink there was the brew doctor kombucha. We had like none left. Everybody loved it. Everybody was drinking that the most. Now brew doctor, we're kind of working with them. They are 100% raw organic, non-GMO glutenfree vegan. Of course, kombucha is a probiotic dish. That's sugar than competitors. That's right. You can find them at Whole Foods,

Trader Joe's, New Seasons, Kroger Sprout. So if you drink kombucha, this is the one that we recommend. We talked about how I opted for Jersey Shore over billions and Westworld. Keto Guido. Shout out. We talk about actions versus behaviors. Google Assistant, that was creepy. We talk about Cobra Kai. Yeah.

Justin's learning some karate moves. I love it. We talk about Seattle's new stupid headtax and how Amazon is going to stop making more jobs there if they don't change that. We tell about how venous whale and money is worth less than World of Warcraft, mine. That was great.

Sad statistic. And how Apple profited more in the first quarter of this year than Amazon has in their entire existence. They have so much cash. Imagine getting your ass kicked that bad out. Good profits. Pretty crazy. Then we get into the questions.

The first question was, this person is feeling pain in their shoulder When doing over-hell overhead dumbbell extensions now we talk about some correctional exercises he could do We also mentioned prime and prime pro which you can find at mine pump media calm the next question was in terms of getting lean What's better crossfit or orange theory? Or neither. See, not only above. That's right. So we talk about which one we think is better

in that part of this episode. And finally, the last question, how do we recommend people should measure their body fat? And what do we think is an ideal healthy body fat percentage for a woman who just wants to be fit, not a competitor. What's that body fat percentage look like? Also, this month, get the Intuitive Nutrition Guide and the Fasting Guide for absolutely free. Free. No money at all. Zero dollars. Free. Free. If you enroll in any maps bundle, now bundles are where we combine two or more maps programs

and discount them at a massive right for example We have something called the super bundle which is a year of exercise programming all planned out in other words You enroll in the super bundle your entire year is set up for you know exactly what to do every single week What exercises reps sets there's videos of us demonstrating how to do the exercises correctly? It's the blueprint success remember all these programs were put together by super smart, experienced and handsome personal trainers. Definitely.

I'm talking about us. Again, enrolling any bundle, get the intuitive guide, and the fasting guide, for free, you can find all of this at mineputmedia.com. Did you guys notice when you check out at Thrive Market that they let you donate a percentage of your save, because I'll show you at the end how much you've saved By shopping from you know with them right then you can donate some of that to charity And my asshole for saying that I didn't even know that yeah, how fucking cool is that I didn't know that how funny

Is it that we have bad ass back we have bad sponsors that we continue such like that. Dude, did you know you could separate all the foods and we'll do this way? They put their money where their mouth is. Like they're really dedicated to helping these causes and stuff like that. You know, they donate that membership. If every time you buy a membership, they'll donate one to a family that is low income.

So they can have organic food. Last time when we were in the jacuzzi and you were with the bed, we were talking with Taylor just about the brands that we're partnering with. And, you know, we were in the jacuzzi, and you were with the bed. We were talking with Taylor just about the brands that we're partnering with. And, you know, we really want to move out of the traditional, same old, same old health and fitness brands that everyone's talking about.

But thrive and organize, I really, the exception to that rule and thrive, a lot of that is just, they really are on brand for us. I mean, they're aside from being health and fitness, but just the cause, the space, they're disrupt from being health and fitness, but just the cause, the space, they're disrupting what they're doing. They're like humanitarian, they're like really considering progress in society, not just like a place for people to buy shit.

Right. Let's do something good in the impact of the world. So, yeah, I love companies that are thinking that big. I think you guys have been able to turn on your family members to. Oh, everybody, yeah. I know, everybody that was a client of mine, anybody that's a family, family, friend, like everybody, it's, the reason why everyone uses it is because it's better. Did the prices are hell, it's better for you

and the prices are competitive with, you're kind of an asshole if you don't use them. You know, if you don't at least try. It's like, I don't want, I don't want to help people. I don't want to save money. So the most resistance that I get from anybody that hasn't tried it yet is just simply going through the process of first trying to, you know, it's like, we get in this rhythm of how we do things all the time.

Like, oh, on Friday nights, I go grocery shopping at Safeway every single Friday night. And so disrupting that and like, meaning, oh, I got to get on my phone or get on my computer to upload it or get on my computer to Upload it or search on thrive and go from there and then what you do at one time Yeah, what you do at one time you realize how easy it is that five minutes it takes it giant It's a big barrier. Is it a crazy though? We are as humans though that's that's true though like it's like it's so found out the forum You know like just having people having to log in was like a huge

barrier. Oh when we tried to go off features of habit you know. Oh yeah I protect you know people in the tech industry know that they know that if they have to give you an extra step even if it's just a click. I'm not their link. They're gonna lose like 40% of their of their customers are engagement. Crazy. Just crazy. But I mean it's got how we're lazy as Americans. I got to push. I'm done. You know what it is? Is your expectations start to quickly change?

There was a comedian that talked about this. Which I think is good and bad, right? I think it's cool. It pushes the market. Well, it shows what's going on, right? It shows that our expectations are changing. But there was a comedian that did this bit about how being on a plane and how the Wi-Fi didn't work and how someone on the plane was like oh this fucking piece of shit plane and he's like yeah you're on a fucking

tube flying through the sky at six out of a hours an hour. It's basically a magic cart in the sky. Yeah and I find myself like that too like we were on the plane when we were coming here and my wife I started getting spotty and I was getting real irritated and I'm like wait a minute like four or five years ago It would have been a fucking miracle to have wife I had an airplane all right, and now I'm getting pissed off that you know I take me five extra seconds to log on I think you know it but that silly I actually paid for it and mine didn't come through on this at all Yeah, well, that's it. Yeah, did that happen you guys? Not the whole time. Distribute happened to me. Were you trying to look at me?

I didn't have my headphones. Okay, that's a trip. I was just typically wearing it. You sit next to an old lady. I was in the middle. That's the best time. I sat bitch on the way over here. That's the best time.

You ever feel this actually happened to me the other day. You're ever on your phone doing something and you know the person next to you is watching. Yeah, that happened with Justin actually. Yeah, we were waiting for dinner. And I'm scrolling through Instagram or whatever answering questions and questions. And I feel like is this guy looking at me?

So I stopped scrolling and I kind of just shook the screen a little bit like me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. I'm back up for it and he starts laughing. He goes, he's coming. Come, me bro. I was totally over your shoulder. Dude, I needed to entertain. And my phone was about to die.

I was just like sitting there. I'm like, I'm gonna see what sounds looking at. That's so funny. It was kind of weird. So I'll do that to my kids, because my son will do that to me, where I'll be like answering question on the forum or something like that. And he'll be sitting next to me.

And he's always, and I get mad at at him because I'm like, you know, that's someone's privacy. Like don't look over some shoulder roll, look and see what they're doing on the front. But he constantly does it. So what I'll do now is I'll find sending a text and I feel like he's watching me. I'll change the text and say some shit to him. Yeah. So like I'll answer a question.

I know you're watching. Like when you guys I'll be like, all right. So tomorrow we'll meet at 9 a.m. Domainical farted and he smells really bad You know what I'm trying to fix is because we were all Business partners first and then they have become I think closer friends that when we go out socially We still default to business mode. And so a couple times I've caught us all right next to each other and

we're all on our phones in a social environment where we're at a restaurant or some of that and I'm like, oh my god, this has to look so bad for somebody else. You got five guys all next to each other. Everybody's got their phone out looking down and it's like, oh my god, we're, and I get it because we are working. So it's kind of, we're on a business trip, we've got all kinds of stuff to do. We're, right now we're fucking, we're not dating. Yeah, I mean, I can, I can answer some forum questions. But I, but I really though, right? I know that's how we are all just, we're just, we're just, all the perception of us. Exactly, but the person, they don't, people don't know, they don't know. They probably think we just, we're just, all the perception of us. Right, exactly, but the person, they don't know, no, they don't know.

But I think we're five friends that are showing up to a restaurant to eat together. You know what it becomes obvious to me? I'm typing it in. You know what happened, when it becomes obvious is when, at the end, Taylor will have a bunch of pictures from the trip,

and I'll look at the pictures, and they're all the girls. Well, like half of them, someone's like, you know, just on their phone, or all of us were on our phone, like, oh shit, man. That's why at dinner, there's a couple times where, just on their phone or all of us were on our phone like, oh shit, man That's why at dinner There's a couple times or you know, I'll say it or even when you guys will say it But I will take our phones back. I know phones. Yeah, yeah, let's just see what happens. It's actually better

Yeah, it's better. It is better. I mean giving us a little bit of a break though. Like I said, we we are This is a this is a business trip for us. I mean there's the sense we've been here There's stuff for us to be working on. I mean, I feel behind right now, there's things that we need to be getting done for when we get back on Monday and we got another event next week. And so, nobody's on there. I don't feel like the five of us

are sitting at the dinner table and people are fucking looking at booties shots on Instagram, like everybody's in their emails. And they're, it's been fucking easy. When we first started. Yeah. We really had to check each other out. Yeah. When we first started, really had to check each other We first started ourselves in the weeds you know

You know you guys joke like that and then just get me in trouble because I'm so fine I'll throw myself on it and bust it Because it sounds so much worse than that God, can you guys cop me a few times? Dude, did I overhear Taylor correctly when I came downstairs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but no, I was gonna say when I came down I overheard him at the event we were giving away free beer free wine and then free was it a butcher doctor? Brew doctor. Brew doctor, sorry. Brew doctor, sorry to everybody.

I said, get your phone down. Keep fucking this up. Brew doctor. You can't even do a commercial ride. No, no, no, but listen, did I overhear him right? That was the most popular drink. Yeah, it was. It's really good.

It was so good. So people would rather drink that than the beer and the wine. Well, Shypum fans, what do you want? Yeah, that's true. Well, if we were giving out weed, I'm sure they would have all taken that instead. Shout out to them, though, for, you know, put sponsoring the event and hooking everybody up.

I mean, everybody had unlimited drinks at this place. So you could be drinking beer, wine, or kombucha. Kombucha was the most popular drink. So shout out to them for supporting us and doing that. I know they're gonna be supporting us out in Tahoe again. And I'm not sure about when we get up to the mirror. I think we have something else going on at mirror, but for, you know, this company's been really cool.

And I know Taylor's been talking back and forth with them. And they're, they definitely see the value in podcasting, they love the brand and what we're doing. Yeah, we're talking about getting another tap, right? At the studio. Yeah, potentially with them. Yeah, it would be amazing. Rue Doctors gotta be the best,

that's gotta be the best one I think I've had so far. Yeah, yeah, definitely. I mean, it's the effect that has on my gut. Here's the thing with kombucha. I don't know if you guys, it has some of the lowest sugar in comparison because some of these things are loaded for sure. That's the, that's part of it. Part and the other part is, I don't know if you guys got it so it has some of the lowest sugar comparison some of these things are loaded full I that's the that's part of it part and the other part is I don't know if you guys have noticed this with you guys are not as sensitive as I am

But when I drink kombucha, although lately glad you admitted that although lately We've been passing the microbion around a little bit. I think that's what's happened very true I don't know you guys do in the middle of the night, so So that's on you guys we do stuff to you Yeah, oh no, it's uh you guys. We do stuff to you. On, no. It's really good on my gut. Some kombucha's tend to bother me.

Like some of them all drink and feel like they didn't really help or whatever. The doctor has to be one of the better ones. You're getting what you said. Yeah, you're forgetting the major. If we had the studio we'd have to. You know what it is, you said, Dr. Kombucha.

I don't know. You know what, because doctor no, it's a book. Because you said, Dr. Kombucha. I don't know. You see, you know what? Because doctor is on the label. So I can see the labels. You know what I'm saying? I can see the label in my head. There's a doctor for its back. So like a doctor pepper.

Yes, yes, that's why the doctor pepper, Dr. Kombucha, Brew doctor, Brew doctor. Brew doctor. Yeah, he's the brew doctor. And like, they're like, sorry, this is the last time where you do advertising with you guys.

Since you can't get our name right and you tend to plug other kombucha's while you're talking about us. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, so you guys, you guys don't watch the Jersey Shore, huh? I only saw the first episode.

I saw the one where Snicky lost her ring or whatever. It was like the only one. I do want to say something though, because it's in my cue and I just haven't been around to it because as far as the list of priorities is, it's not the top five shows I want to say something though because I it's in my like Q and I just haven't been around to because as far as like the list of priorities is It's not the top five shows I want to get you How have you not watched West world? Yeah, have you not watched West world or billions or billions and you're watching Jersey Shore So you deserve to get slapped I have I have a weird relationship with the Jersey Shore show

So when that show first came out I do a little too. I watched it and I thought it was so First off, it's terrible stereotypes of a time people. Oh, yeah, yeah, so I'm kind of like, you know, cuz I grew up a time Is it really terrible? Yeah, well, you know, what's you know, they just being themselves. Dude stereotype Yeah, no, I'm not saying that they're acting that's who they are, but Stereotypes a lot of times are based on some truth, right? There's extreme versions of it. Of course. No, you're right. They obviously casted these people with the intention of showing those extremes.

The one that Vinny, for example, used to crack me up because when Vinny had this overbearing mom who would like cut his meat for him, do everything for him, and that's like a true thing in my culture, like the moms do everything for the sun but anyway so I watched that all the seasons before and my cousins would watch it we'd all laugh about it and joke and whatever and then the show was over and then the reunion came back so it's just you know it's just like an old associate nostalgia old yeah relationship so I'm watching it and Paulie so Vinny lost a bunch of weight got like lean and shit and I guess he's a keto diet so

Paulie calls it the keto grito Every time you eat that way I'm gonna call you that now bro. Oh, I was dying of laughter I can't believe nobody's got in there and McVegan But you're not I know That's the one thing that they did good I think that why that show did take off is all the funny nicknames and the funny sayings I mean the t-shirt time and the cabs are here. Yeah, I mean they did so many little Laundry what's that? G-tackering in these Jim Jim tan laundry

Yeah, Jim tan laundry the one that you can do D.F. K.T.F That's a different thing that was that was crazy Yeah, that did the one thing that cracked me up the most that nobody ever really talked about was that, do you guys ever watch the episode where I don't remember where they were? It happened during the World Cup

and during the World Cup, and I forgot where it was, everybody was blowing into those long skinny plastic horns. Do you guys remember that? At the World Cup and I was like, oh, yeah. And it became a thing like, and people were buying these horns. Well, on the Jersey Shore, I forgot which season it was might have been Miami where they where they had one of these horns and You know how these the big girls back to the hill to the place all the time?

Yeah, yeah, and and they would call like if there was like a group of four or five girls And there was one that was unattractive or whatever they call it the grenade. Yeah So there there was one episode where they were bringing these girls and and I don't know He was Paul. He was on the the the world cup horn Yeah, and they call it the grenade whistle Every time it was an unattractive girl Yeah, grenade whistle and look I wish that caught on more I thought I was so f**king hilarious

Yeah, nobody's gonna be offended by that Oh, it's dude. It was so good But anyway, so I got some articles here. I want to be I've been saving these because they they're a little controversial, but they're pretty cool. We're staying on the country. Here we go. We dropped some episodes on God and the religion back to back. Yeah. We've been pushing politics like we decided. No, this is a this is a they were just daring our fans. Well, no, this is a good one. This is a good one because many times things appear to be a particular way, but they're actually opposite.

For example, I'll give you an example. There was that one study that I brought up a few times where I forgot what town it was or what city that made this ordinance that all restaurants had to list calories next to the options on the menus. And they thought that this would help people lose weight and make better choices.

And then when they did what they did study later on, they found that actually people chose to eat higher calorie options. As a result, which sounds counterintuitive, but then they realized what happens is people look at two options, and they say, oh, here's the healthier option, here's the less healthier option. Just like 100 more calories. Yeah, or three and more calories, and people don't really understand, I'm like, oh, big deal, I'll just go with the one that I really want to eat or whatever. So it's opposite right doesn't help when your treadmill Say like triple what you're really doing

Let's talk about that for a second how over bullshit it estimated are those fucking cardio Remember I remember clients used to get off those things would be like yeah, I burn 800 calories on the treadmill I did 30 minutes on the liptical. Yeah, yeah, I'm like get the fuck out of here You burn it. I was a treadmill. What kind of liptical. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, get the fuck out of here, you per day. You better get out of here, as I try to build. What kind of a liptical are you doing? Yeah, I try. It's a 30 minutes. Uphill spreads. Yeah, you should.

Yeah. So a study done by Cornell and the University of Michigan found that those, there were people who were highly concerned about climate change. So these are people who are like, because they did surveys and stuff, and these are people who are like, OK, I am extremely concerned about climate change This is a big deal to me

We're less likely to engage in recycling and other eco-friendly behaviors than global warming skeptics What? Yes What? How is that even possible? I'm so concerned No, if you break... So at first it sounds like this is this doesn't make any sense But when you think about it, it kind of does make a little bit of sense because the people who

tend to be the more concerned crowd are the ones that advocate for They feel guilty. No, they they they they advocate for government regulation and government, you know policies and changes like they want The government to Make laws and stuff to fix this particular problem versus trying to do something themselves. That's right. That's right. That's right. Versus the global warming skeptics who also generally tend to be the more the individuals who are more pro individual action like you know like I need to if I I got to do my own changes I'm not worried about it. I don't need to force everybody else to do things. I'm gonna do things for myself.

Those are the people that tend to do, do the things that tend to be better for the environment, according to this particular study. Now, this echo similar studies that have been done on people who, on charity. So they've done studies and they found that people who advocate for the most government programs to help the poor also tend to donate the least amount of money to charities and people who don't tend to donate the most

and they control that for income too. So some people say, well, some people have more less money. No, when they control for income, people who are less like pro government force or government providing these things tend to do things more on their own. Yeah, they want dad to do it. Yeah, I think I think that kind of that tends to be true, right? Like if you feel like everybody else is doing something, you tend to do less of it yourself, but if you feel like nobody's gonna do it, I need a dirty. Get my hands dirty a little bit. How crazy is that? That's interesting though. It is interesting. Yeah, it's kind of like human behaviors interesting in that particular respect.

I feel like it's like a guilt thing. I think by you two, just saying it or saying that's important or like making a point to fight for the cause makes you feel better. Yeah. And so that's the only thing that you're really feeling. Like do you care that much about the cause or you just care about acting like you care about the cause?

It's true, it's true. Cause if you look at someone's behavior, it's social cred for it. Yeah, like if you look at someone's behavior, social cred for it. Yeah, like if you look at someone's behaviors and their actions, you can tell pretty quickly if they really do care about something. If somebody really, really cares, then they'll change their own behavior.

Rather than just talking about actions. Yeah, and it's also, it's more empowering when people start to do that, but it's also more responsibility. Like I could complain all day long about climate change and about how I want to, how I think it's important that we protect the environment, but then if I go and change my own lifestyle,

well that requires a little bit of work on my part. And I think a lot of people are much more willing to speak out and far less willing to do the work. I feel the same way about like trying to help people get in shape. Like we had a question. Totally. I asked about like, you know, what do I do about my parents and trying to get them in shape and or I have a spouse or this person who I want to get in shape and it's like, you know, honestly, you could sit there all day long and spin your wheels on all the things that

you can do to make their life easier. So they so they get in shape or by educating them to give them shape, or you can be that change in their life by doing it within yourself, right? And letting them see that. And I think that's way more powerful. It's every, I mean, I remember when I first came in to Katrina's family, I mean, they probably for a year or two

there, you know, they give me a lot of shit, man, they give me a lot of shit for... By the way, well yeah, because I'd bring my food to fucking family events. You're the new boyfriend in town and shit like that, like, what an asshole, you know? But I did my best. Who was my pie?

I did my best not to be like that, to kind of explain why and so like that, and be like, no, no, I mean, it doesn't bother me or Everyone drink to your thing. So I thought, I just right now I have, you know, personal goals that I'm trying to achieve. And it's important that I eat this way. And so, but I think over time, the entire family

watched me transform my body, watched the way Katrina and I live our life. Now the whole family is like always trying to learn more. Every time we're around food on there, they're asking questions now. Like, hey, would this be a better choice or should we do this? Or can we make this dish?

And is that healthy? Or I heard this and I never had to say, oh, you shouldn't do this or oh my God, you're going down this wrong path and you're gonna be overweight and you're gonna get all these diseases and it's gonna be this. I don't have to scare anybody

or make anybody feel certain, why just I focused on myself. It requires a strong character to be able to do that because you're gonna get hit from so many different angles and from so many different people and you're gonna be the one that stands out and you're gonna be the one that's weird at the party or the whatever.

So it requires that somebody is very solid and strong, confident within themselves. And no, I think you're absolutely right. I think constantly preaching to people versus being the example and just worrying about yourself, there's a big difference in effect. Yeah, because the real people that are going to make the change are going to see that, because they have the first one to. You cannot force your parents or anybody else to want to get in shape.

They have to be their own idea. Right. And there's no better way, in my opinion, to be that visual example for them, to want to ask you that. You know, it's a very, it's a, and it's most people will, like if they see, and most people I feel like are battling inside of like,

do I want to make the effort to do this or should I? And they're watching you. If you're the person that's healthy, that, or the healthiest person they know in their life, they're looking to see you fail. They're looking to see you not follow through, eat terrible, do these things. Follow them.

Say you're healthy for about a six month period and then you fall off and you're this and they're like, Oh, he's just like me. You know what I'm saying? That time glad I didn't listen to his bullshit when he was trying to preach to me six months ago, you failed too. You're just like me.

It makes you feel better about yourself. When you, you know, if you have a friend, and you know, they are working really hard, and you're like, come on man, just relax. Like, who cares, enjoy yourself, and your friends are like, no, I'm really focused on this particular goal. It makes you feel better to see that they fall off,

because then you feel better about yourself. If they succeed, all of a sudden, now you have to ask yourself the question, like, well, shit. Yeah, maybe, maybe I was the one that should have done that. And you put it on them. Without really, you know, again, you're not pounding them with it. You're just that example. I used to get clients that would tell me that would come bring their kids with them to the gym. And they'd be like, so, can you tell my son why it's so bad to eat chicken nuggets and drink soda or whatever? Like, can you talk and there's like a 10 year old kid and then I

would go to the parent be like, just don't have it. Like don't do it in the house. Like you don't like, what do you mean? I'm not going to convince your kid. Right. Yeah. They live with you. They're watching what you do. Obviously, right. It's like, it's like being a smoker and trying to talk your kid tell your kid that smoking is bad. Don't smoke. Meanwhile, you're, they're watching what you do, obviously. If it's like being a smoker and trying to talk your kid, tell your kid that smoking is bad, don't smoke meanwhile you're the one that's doing it. It's that whole example thing. So yeah, definitely requires a certain level of responsibility

and it's that individual action. I mean, again, this is all sounds silly, but if everybody just focused on themselves and do what was best for themselves, and then you'd see the massive change that people. Yeah, did you see, I don't know of Justin Sawd, I saw you sent over on the thread yesterday, the Google, was it not Google?

Who was it that, what company is it that is doing the AI? Oh yeah. To answer the calls and set you up. Bro, did you guys watch that? Is it Google? I think it is. Did you watch that? I didn't watch it.

I was reading like a, bro. It's Google Assistant. It's cool. It's very cool. So it's Google Assistant. We were freaking out. Because of how real that is. So what you do is you'll tell your Google Assistant,

hey, book me dinner at 9 p.m. at whatever restaurant. Google Assistant will call the restaurant restaurant and then they played the actual conversations between the people who live person, who's a live person and Google assistant. And you can't fucking tell. You can't tell who's the, who's the, who's not real. And I mean, I mean, it wasn't even a straightforward conversation. I was like, oh, sorry, that, that time is not available. And then the fucking Google assistant replies, oh, well, how about these time? Westworld's happening, bro. Dude, it was creepy. Yeah, it's

cool. Weird. It's cool, though. Weird, right? That's really cool. I think it is. It is, but it's also kind of strange. I mean, just imagine how much you could, I mean, I think for me, a guy like me, that really, really would help out to have this virtual assistant that I can just, every time I think about it, I put it in my counter real quick, like, make sure this happens, make sure this happens, and it's just, all I have to do is put the note in or whatever for them to know to call and set.

Now, I'm wearing it, and I might got you a cover. Oh, David, it's even picks up like the mannerisms, dude, or the, the lingo, like the way that the way that, the pauses and the hum and this it's trippy new books for you near library. No it talks like this like we're talking just normal. You can't fucking tell dude it's so weird. Yeah it's really cool. Maybe like Google assistant can you call my girlfriend and apologize? I saw Justin you were watching. You were watching this morning the karate kid on YouTube. Yeah, oh,

Kobra Kai. Oh, you watch it. Yeah, bro. The first episode. Yeah, you know, I don't have a season. Yeah. Yeah, there's that's why I sent it to you guys. It's so it's so good. It's produced by Google Red just on excuse me YouTube YouTube red. It's only on YouTube red and it's a whole series and it follows up on Johnny and now is it there? So no, well, they haven't really got to, I just watched the first episode. I think Danny's an asshole now. Yeah, he owns like car dealerships and he's just like, yeah, he's a little bit of an asshole and like they kind of take it from Johnny's perspective of like being down and out, you know? And like, he keeps reflecting on getting kicked

in the face. Oh my God, it's so funny. It's like, it's such that like old dry humor, he's watching like Iron Eagle, you know? And so they add all this like old 80s feel to it. So it's actually good, huh? It's good, man. Like it's good writing.

I was like, I thought it might be like super cheesy and terrible, but like it's like cheesy, but like dude, it's like all these. All these platforms are getting their own stuff. Yeah, fucking love it. Is YouTube red worth it? I think, I mean, I, I, I'm not paying for it. This is free. So how did you, what is it, trial? Yeah. Oh shit. I'm gonna do that just to watch Karate. Yeah, I think that they're letting it, You know go as free for a while so people kind of like get introduced to it. Karate kid has to be Easily one of the most impactful movies in my youth. Oh, yeah, man. No me too, man. That was a staple like yeah Like because you remember that you remember how uncomfortable you were like trying to kind of prove yourself like you You know like the whole bully thing,

like getting through that process, like when you're a kid, like I just remember, because like Johnny was such like the, the stereotypical perfect, archetype of a bully guy, you know, but then you watch it now, like as you're older, like the old movie, and you're like totally rooting more for Johnny, like, you're like, you're like, dude, dude, dude, he's such a little bitch.

Like the whole time, crying about, he's, he he's, he couldn't let it go, right? But he goes and fucks with him again. You know, water on him. Yeah, that part. Come on, dude. Yeah. Like you're just, you're just stirring the bees. Yeah. That they were just trying to smoke a joint in the bathroom. Yeah, man. He's trying to have a little party. Yeah. You're the fucking, you can just dump water on him. No, no, you deserve to get your ass kicked. And kicked, sir. And it didn't help for me that people kept telling me when I was a kid that I looked like it. Oh yeah, oh my God.

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No, she's a babe. No, she was but she was like she was like too like bigger than him almost you when you see him together You're like, oh, that's yeah, but yes I'm skinny when I when I was that old all the girls were fucking all the girls were bigger than you Six seven and eighth grade the chicks were bigger dude. Yeah Six, seven than eighth grade, the chicks were bigger, dude. What grade is he in in that movie? She was like, what grade was he in? He was in high school, isn't he? Yeah, I think it was in high school.

Well, just freshmen or software. Yeah, you're like, yeah, just like a, but that's what, I mean, really, that's what, I mean, my, from sixth grade to probably sophomore year, most of the girls were our size or bigger. You know, we most developed before us. Yeah, most boys don't sprout up till about their sophomore junior year in high school and would have brilliantly written movie to stood the test of time I mean watching

him do all those chores and then you know Mr. Miyagi's like actually been learning karate this entire time yeah like he huckleberry fin disaster you know what I would have would have really moved but yeah definitely one of the one of the my favorite movies in my youth so I'm excited to watch I'm saying? What a brilliant move, but yeah, definitely one of the, one of my favorite movies in my youth, so I'm excited to watch it. I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say, I love it, yeah. For sure of it.

Dude, did you see, and did you see, so because I know we're heading up to Seattle coming up here soon, right? We're gonna be doing, is that where the, which one's in Seattle? Meer, that's me, yeah. Okay. Do you know Amazon's headquarters up there?

Yes. Right. So Seattle has to be one of the worst cities for economic policies. It's terrible. It's like the Seattle, San Francisco, all these cities that just are basically trying to destroy themselves with their idiotic economic policies. So what Seattle is doing, because Amazon is in the middle of building or expanding their headquarters to add, like, I don't know how many tens of thousands of employees, and Amazon brings the city of Seattle. I don't know how many millions of dollars

in tax revenue already and jobs, right? So Seattle passed a, I think it's called a head tax. So if you're a company that generates over $20 million in revenue, not in profits, by the way, so there's a problem there already. If you generate over $20 million in revenue, they're going to charge you. And if I'm not mistaken, the amount is something like $47 ahead for people who work there. What? Yeah. So they're about to dramatically increase amount of taxes. I don't, wait, I don't understand the, you know, it's called a head tax. Yeah,, I don't understand the, you know, it's called a head tax.

Yeah, but I don't understand the theory behind that, just to collect more taxes. And so we're going to go out and go out and go out. We're going to go out to the building. To pay for housing for homeless people, is what they'll say, right? It's what they're saying. We're saying it's we need more housing for homeless people.

This is how we're going to generate the revenue. We're going to, we're going to charge a head tax on these companies. So Amazon, and this is what happens. This is what he thinks is going to happen, right? They're later going to charge a head tax on these companies so amazon and this is what happens this is what he thinks it happened there later and move will go for a base somewhere else so amazon would you stay that is on halted halted their construction they're like we're not gonna keep building and now they're trying to go shoot with the city and so then the

city's trying to paint amazon as this evil corporation that doesn't want to help homeless people except except it wasn't that long ago that Amazon actually donated a shit ton of money and actually I think built a massive housing facility on their dime for homeless people. How fucking stupid. I'm just beyond stupid. Good for fucking bezels though for fucking fuck you. You know what I'm saying?

That probably lost him money even to do that. Why don't people. You start contracts like that what I'm saying? That probably lost him money even to do that. Why don't you start, you start contracts like that. And I'm sure that it, they probably already started spending money in that direction. But I would do the same fucking gangster move too, like, fuck you. You know what I'm saying? Like, we put it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Cause imagine how much that's going, how positive, a big, huge company like Amazon coming into it. Oh my God. I mean, I honestly yeah No, I remember when Tesla just came up to Reno or my sister lives Yeah, why they do that cuz California was being a bunch of right dumbasses and so they go up to Reno And now you see the whole town or I mean it brings instantly brings like three or six thousand jobs Like right away to attend this economy's change

Yeah, no shit. It's so silly. It's's ridiculous it's a it's such a stupid mentality one thing I think people need to understand is if you're and of course if you're not lying cheating stealing if you're not you don't have that cronism where you're partnering up with politicians to create barriers so that people can compete with you whatever definitely not the case with Amazon definitely not the case Amazon is a tech company. It's very, very free. They dominate because they're so good, not because they've been given special treatment or because there's all these barriers that they've enacted or put up for their their competition, you know, through laws or legislation. One thing you understand is when a company or an individual

becomes extremely successful in a market economy, when a company generates billions of dollars, that alone is doing a massive service to society. If you, here I'm going to trip people out by saying this and I'll back it up, if you live in a market economy and you're an honest person, one of the best things you could do is get rich as fuck. Literally, because in order for you to get rich as fuck, that means you have to serve a whole bunch of other people's interests. You have to create something that a lot of people want

or do something a lot of people want or give people the service that people find valuable, more valuable than their dollars. So that means you're already doing a massive service. So like, for example, if you look at Amazon, you think, oh, evil corporation, what do you think would happen if we erased Amazon from existence, if they had never existed at all?

How much less money would people have in their pockets for savings? Think of the ways that they've- Less jobs, isn't it? Think of how they revolutionize shipping. Think of how they revolutionize, you know, how they've allowed small businesses to build online presence, in online business. Without Amazon, it was much more difficult to create an online

business. You had to ship your own products, you had to store them, whatever. Now with Amazon, and sure they take a big chunk out of it, but boy, have they made it a lot easier for companies to exist online. And so I think it's just think it's insane that we tend to do this with legislation and laws. We tend to fuck these, or just shoot ourselves in the foot and so stupid. What are they gonna do now, right? If Amazon said fuck you, what are they gonna do now?

You know what the chain of events that happens in some of these societies is then, and what won't happen here, thankfully, but it's happened in other countries. It's first of all say, you gotta pay us this massive tax and the company says we're gonna leave and then they say we're gonna make it illegal free to leave and the company say we'll shut down and then they'll say we're gonna take all your assets then and they'll play this fucking

game and you see this in socialist societies that start to spiral downward like venezuela where you know now venez well enough you guys all this but uh... venezuela money now is worth less than world of warcraft money It's like you can sell you will I feel bad laughing because the poor people that are there but like oh my god That is a fucking funny stat you can sell your world of warcraft money Oh my god

world of warcraft money. For boom. Oh my god dude. I know what that's said. I feel bad for laughing, but I know I feel bad for laughing too. That's a great stat. That's crazy. That's crazy. So speaking of laughing, right, on the same topic, Amazon fucking behemoth of a company,

crushing and destroying everybody, right? And everybody's like, oh, Amazon rules the world. Here's a stat, let's get a fuck it. Trip you out. Let's probably get a piss off, Bezos. Apple made more profit in three months than Amazon has generated during its entire lifetime. Oh, are you serious? Yes, oh my God.

Apple generated a $48.3 billion profit during its fiscal 2017 and made 13.8 billion in net income during the March 2018 quarter. Still off their iPhone. While Amazon's total net income since inception is 9.6 billion. Yeah, but that's how much money Amazon makes. Yeah.

That's crazy. Yeah. Do you know Amazon has more cash than the government? Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. Apple. That's crazy. Yeah, you know Amazon has more cash than the government. You're talking about Amazon Apple Apple sorry. Yeah, it's all well. That's the thing there just like with cash man Yeah, that's the difference though So you have like give a luxury brand like Apple versus a tech bit brand or gig right during this whole gig explosion with Amazon

And so Amazon is like the long play right? That's like when you look at the that's why the book they're taking over other industry The book of four is a really cool read around this because Amazon is not just crushing right now, which they are, but when you compare them to Apple as far as profits, Apple looks bigger and better financially like year over year, but you're, they're also Amazon's spending on the cloud. Yeah, exactly. They're spending a lot of money to own a lot of real estate and have a lot of control of markets that at any point, they're, I mean, that's the way,

I look at, they're looking more about power than they are dollar right now. Which they have, which they'll turn into money. Right. Now explain this to me, because I've heard you guys say this before and I kind of understand it, but I've heard you guys say that Amazon owns the cloud. So what do you mean by that? They own all

they own all the servers of the cloud still has, I mean, you still have to have servers, right? It has to go somewhere. And so they own like the majority of like all these servers somewhere. I don't know if it's in Arizona or like some desert where, so like Google and whatever uses it. Yeah, they pay for the storage, basically, in a sense to go through that. So when you're downloading things from the cloud, it's actually going through, they're providing that service. So in other words, does other tech companies grow and require more and more of this?

And you just can't get to, they're so big at this point that you can't compete with it. It's like, think of somebody trying to come up and like compete with like cell phone towers, right? Like trying to come in and compete with some of the guys that have have the market. They have everything. They already have an monopoly on it. They have a monopoly on the podcast. Yeah. You got all the everybody's jacked in with Comcast already. Like good luck. Like we're trying. I really want somebody compete though. Well, Comcast is different because Comcast,

the only reason why they've achieved that level of domination is because there's laws that make it so hard for anybody else to try to compete, but Amazon, that's a different story. Although I will say this, the thing about technology that's pretty fucking exciting, it only takes one dramatic, massive shift or change in tech and the way we store things for that to be obsolete.

Like if all of a sudden there's a server, let's say a quantum server gets created where you have a server the size of my phone now that can contain as much information as a building full of servers. Amazon becomes that option. Well, that's just it. Amazon is leading the way in that.

There's constantly spending. There's that op-wall. Well, that's just it. Amazon is leading the way in that. There's possibly spending. There's other companies that are trying to come on and have their own private cloud. And even for themselves to host that, to run that, to manage that, cost more money than it would cost them to just get with Amazon. So it's like, unless you're getting in the business of the cloud, which most people aren't,

they just want to use the cloud. It doesn't make sense to even try and compete with Amazon, because it's the same way with shipping with Amazon. They flip the funnel on its own. They eat at the prop. They eat at the prop. The same way they flip the funnel on its head with buying things online.

Now explain that for a second, because people listening need to understand that part, because that was them doing that, just totally disrupted the entire internet. Well, yeah, they've become the go-to, like you see all these companies, They're doing that just totally disrupted the entire internet. They've become the go-to, like you see all these companies, anybody who ships online uses Amazon because they've made it so user-friendly for both the consumer and the producer. It's like a no-brainer. Everything from like you said before, the shipping, they make it so easy

and they make it so fast that nobody can compete with it. And even if another brand tried to come in, it's too late. It's too late. Making houses in their warehouses and everything in the inventory. Do you know how long the US Post Office said it was impossible to do overnight shipping

and to ship things that quickly? They would say that it was impossible. They said it for decades, impossible, impossible, possible, then UPS FedEx and an Amazon came out, private companies, and showed like this is how it. Well, I don't know, I don't know the numbers on this, but I do know that part of the reason why they could do that is, is again, why they're not the most profitable right now is they take a lot of big losses to win the market share. You know, so even when they first did that, I'm sure and I can't, I know I've read it somewhere, I just don't remember the

numbers. Like, you know, when they first started all that stuff, they weren't making a ton of money. They were probably losing in fact, when they were shipping for such a low price, they're probably having to pay employees and storage and all these things. It's the model, man. They just raised the price of prime.

Amazon, Amazon Prime go up in cost, and nobody's gonna fucking stand out. It's just like what they're doing with AI right now. I mean, they're, they're, they're losing money every single month on the amount of money they're spinning on AI, you know, and building these factories that will just be automated. They're not making money off that.

Nobody's paying that they're paying another own pocket to create that. But once it's operational and running, it's game over. That's why, I mean, Apple, they're gonna hit the trillion dollar cash mark first. Apple. Yeah, almost guaranteed it because that's their, their only objective is that. Like, it just seems like they're trying so hard to just get as much cash and squeeze as much as possible. It's either that or we see like Apple get almost there and then Amazon turned the switch on on so many

markets. Like they're trying to move into the space of, I mean, they're getting into like the shipping containers and over, I mean, they're... Well, the drone delivery. Yeah, they're fucking with huge markets right now that if all the shipping container ones, like that is a huge market. And it's so wrapped up in red tape and all this bullshit,

it's such an antiquated way of handling things because there's all these protectionist laws. Between that, between education, between the shit, I mean, so they're getting their hands on all these markets that regardless of they're making a lot of profits right now, but they're proving that it can be done more efficiently. Once they prove that and everybody's on board

to where it's like a no brainer, like why would I not have Amazon? And this, it includes all these things, I get prime shipping, all this stuff. And that's just it, like a no brainer, like why would I not have Amazon? And this includes all these things, I get prime shipping all this. And that's just it, like think about it this way. When you want drastic and dramatic changes or innovations, it requires a lot of capital and risk, right? When you're looking at a system

that's been around for a long time, and you're looking at it and your, let's say you're a company and you're like, okay, we want to make this system that's been around for 50 years or 30 years, we want to make this system that's been around for 50 years or 30 years, we want to make it far more efficient. How do we do that? Because it's been done this way for so long.

We need to spend a lot of money in time figuring that out. We need to invest a shit ton of capital. Well, if you're throwing a fucking head tax on Amazon's headquarters because you're Seattle and you think you're, you know, whatever, you're taking away money that they're going to, that they would invest in these risky type of things. Right. And it's their money to do so, which

here's why I don't like government investing in that kind of stuff. Like you're taking my money and you're fucking risking Amazon. That's their own goddamn money. They're going to take it and risky. And if they succeed, they do it. They fail. They lose their money. When government does it and they fail, they lost my money. You know what I'm saying? So I don't have nobody with me. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

So let them have that money so that they can figure out and reinvest, people don't realize just how much money goes back into reinvesting a business when you're profiting. I mean, look at our company, our business, mind-pump, as we grow, people might look and be like, oh, they must be paying themselves more and more no no our heart can change is how much repair ourselves because there's so much more reinvestment into trying to grow and you know add more people and become more efficient so but crazy to 2017 48

billion dollars in profit they made that is an insane amount if that's apple that is an insane amount of cash the race to a trillion yeah man that is an insane amount if that's apple that is an insane amount of calf the race to a trillion Yeah, man, that is an insane amount. It's kind of exciting if you ask me. No bring on the bird Douglas This quas brought to you by organify For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organified fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge. Try Organified Totally Risk-Free for 60 days by going to organify.com.

That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Our first question is from Mitch W. basketball 15. Why am I feeling pain, whilst doing overhead dumbbell tricep extensions, where the deltoid originates from the acromium process? Process, yeah. I love when people go with detail questions. I think you should explain with that person's doing

and where they feel pain right now. So they're doing an overhead extension, where you have a dumbbell behind it. Really common. Someone will sit like at a 90 degree bench where you're sitting up right in there like a chair, and then they grab a dumbbell and they cup it behind their head and they do overhead extension. And that requires really good shoulder mobility to bring the dumbbell back behind your head. And this is very common actually. It's really common that people struggle with, in fact, I've seen a lot of people injure themselves, going really heavy on tricep extensions behind their head.

And it's not because of their triceps or they don't have enough strength. It's because they don't have the shoulder mobility. Well, they're just not raising their arm and pulling it back in that position, like ever. Yeah, right, right. They just they've lost connection there. Now this this area is where the scapula the top of the shoulder blade attaches to the the top of the shoulder blade attaches to the collarbone. Mm-hmm. So it's called the it's and it's the acromioclavicular joint. It's probably is where he's feeling this pain feeling this pain and this is a common area that people will get

Like the top front of your shoulder. Yeah, so like if you're if you're like if you're like see joint Yeah, so if you're if you're touching your collarbone and you move it all the way out towards your shoulder It's like the end of that of that particular That's why I'm like really bony kids used to make fun of you right there. Really? Yeah, did you cry? I did But that's it that's a common area to separate. In fact, getting a partial separation there or getting like austroathritis or inflammation there is common. They call it bench press shoulder.

Well, you know, I can't remember where I read this, but it only takes 40% of your intensity to pull the shoulder out of its socket. So you- 40% of your strength? pull the shoulder out of its socket. Like so you- 40% of your strength? Yeah, so like if so you can, yeah, so you don't even have to be lifting like a max load, but if it's out of position, and I may not be wording that correctly or saying all right,

but the point of it was it doesn't take very much weight or stress for you to dislocate your shoulder or injure it when it's out of position. It's because it's a multifaceted joint like the hips. It's really easy for us to get hurt if you do not have the right mobility. You see this, it's a problem. You see heavy benches with where their technique is off. You see this problem a lot in that particular part of the shoulder because it stabilizes the shoulder joint in that horizontal

You know playing where you're laying on your on your back It's actually a little easier on that area when you do an incline believe it or not This is this is the real magic behind the maps prime pro was that we take every major joint in the body And we address it and we make sure that it has it has the ability to take that that through full range of motion. And most people, for sure, are going to find several of the joints in their body are not a, they cannot do this. And they need to just, just the rotators, like, like having internal external rotation and right, how many people can actually, yeah, how many people can practice that and that being such a crucial part to this whole process of being able to stabilize, so it

doesn't move off track. So the biggest thing is you start to get, you know, your bone gets a little bit off track, now it starts getting closer and closer to where it becomes that impingement. So that's where we get that pain sensation starts to form. This tends to be a dysfunction in the shoulder blade. So in Prime Pro, we have movements that you can work on specifically for the shoulder blade, which is part of the whole shoulder structure. Because a lot of times we focus on just the shoulder itself, or at least the upper arm part

of the shoulder of the humerus, but that scapula that your shoulder blade plays a massive role in the function of your shoulder joint. And in this particular issue, probably has more to do with this shoulder blade than it does proper attraction and depression. That's it, that's it. So, and that's probably what your problem is. I would say, obviously number one, avoid that exercise for now,

but then focus on bringing the shoulder blades back and down and doing exercises that help stabilize that back and down position. Because what's happening, what might be happening is your shoulder blade is elevating or shrugging and rolling forward a little bit or turning out a little bit or maybe even winging a little bit which will cause problems in that AC joint as you bring your arm over your head. So if you prime properly, you may be able to get in that position without having pain. So one thing that I can recommend that might be, it's easier to explain over

a podcast would be to do some really light rows. We created the maps red row from this. That's what that's for is to teach you to retract like that in like an aced row position, you know, retract and then depress the shoulders. Yeah. So I would say do a light row, pull the shoulder blades back and then down. So it's like you're trying to get your shoulder blades and put them in your back pockets. Focus on that squeeze, hold that squeeze for three seconds, do a few repetitions like that. And then go and do your overhead exercise and place that shoulder in that position and then see if you still feel pain. So since we've been started, since we started MindPone

and this whole fucking phone thing and us sitting down and rounding, and I can see my posture rounding forward, it has become now mandatory that before I do bench press, I have to do rows, I have to do that. Oh really? Because the bothers you more now? Even yeah, or I'll feel that kind of impingement in my shoulder.

And I know right away that it's just on the end. And once I go do two or three sets of some really good rows where I'm concentrating on retracting and depressing, then I go right back into chest instantly leaving. Yeah, I'll do like what we have in Prime Pro, we have these shoulder scap kind of circles where you take it through. Oh, that's the best. Oh, man. It's so great for priming and getting into a proper position, you know, when I go to bench because that was a big problem for me is I would feel that impingement start

to form just because I would get to a certain sticking point where the load would put enough pressure to where I was like, oh shit, okay, you know, I'm not stabilizing properly. It's also a common area of injury for football players because of the when you tackle, yeah, you tackle with your shoulder and you get a lot of these AC joint separations. I had my AC joint my left side. I had it resected. I had about maybe three millimeters resected off the end of it because I had I had separated it's just a partial separation in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and then the doctor said okay well you can stop Jiu-Jitsu for six months and let yourself heal or I can give you a quarter quarter zone shot, so you can keep doing Jiu-Jitsu, and then we'll

see what happens. So I chose the stupid option, and ended up making it much worse, and then I had to get shoulder surgery. Now my right one bothers me a little bit. Can you talk about that, like, how what a bad decision to get taking those shots are? Oh, man. I mean, I understand if there's like really bad acute inflammation, get rid of the pain to me. I hate even saying that.

Well, no, not because everybody who has it and has pain and it gets the shot, it's like, oh, if you only knew it's in so much pain, that you don't want it. No, it's not because I didn't want the pain, it's not, I'm not saying this because you should get rid of the pain, although I am empathetic to that as well. I'm not, that's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is sometimes you need to get rid of inflammation so that you can do the movements that will help that area. But most people don't use them that way. Most people get the shot and they're like, I'm better. Yeah. They go do whatever they want.

I'll do a normal thing. I'll do a normal thing. Everybody. Like I don't know a client one that I had that gets the shots for the pain and that would come to me and be like, yeah, I got the shot, it brought the inflammation down. Now I'm doing my mobility work.

I'm doing the exercises to fix this. They're like, oh, I feel great. And they go right back to doing everything that they've been doing and which got them in that situation. They don't even realize it. And then next thing you know, two months down the road, they're in pain again and they're getting the shot again. And it's just as vicious.

Those shots, if you keep using them, will deteriorate your fucking joint and a very, very bad way because inflammation, there's shitty banding. They're not even a good banding. Inflammation is a signal for your body to repair and to heal. And when you zap it out of there with a, with a cortisone shot, that joint can start to deteriorate. So you start to, you start to see people getting these every single year

and every year things start to get worse and then they have to get a joint replacement. That's always the follow up. So if you do get one of those shots, use it as a way to help you rehab, not as a way to like, oh, it's gone. I feel fine now and I've never had, you know, my pain's gone now so everything must be better.

Here's something that Dr. Brink taught us a while ago that I thought was absolutely brilliant. He says, you know, when you work on an area and you start to correct them, you know, imbalances or work on recruitment patterns and the pain goes away, that doesn't mean that you're done. Because pain is like the last signal.

That's when you're like, oh, you're fucked. That's why it's screaming at you. That's right. You gotta keep working past that because pain is a terrible signal. If you just rely on pain, you're going to be in a bad situation. Like, oh, I stop until I start to hurt myself. And then I feel a little better and I go back and forth. This is also why all of our prime and prime pro tests that we have in there are either past or fail. Yeah. It's not like this isn't a matter of

yeah, just because you don't have pain in that area doesn't mean there's not work to be done for that joint. So it's like okay if you can't do the movement 100% perfectly then there's work to be done there. And how bad it is is how much work you need to be putting into that. Just think of it this way. If you're listening right now think of it this way. Imagine if you were able to just get into any exercise and feel comfortable. And the limiting factor just simply be that maybe your strength, but has nothing to do with mobility, feeling awkward, has nothing to do with like, I don't know if I can move it.

Imagine if you could just kind of just manipulate your body the way you want within reason, within good control. That's what we're talking about. When you train these types of movements, when you do things like Prime Prime Pro, or FRC, or you focus on mobility, it gives you that ability to be able to jump into a movement and be able to move in an optimal way. Otherwise, you're gonna be stuck in this whole like,

you know, where I'm in this situation now, because I didn't do this for the, you know, 90% of my training career, where I have to fucking prime and do everything so much before I train, and that's just where I'm at now But as I continue to do it, I notice it gets better and better like I have to prime less than today than I did last month You know what I'm saying because I've been doing it now more consistently. All right Next question is from Andrew Beth. What is better for leaning out crossfit or orange theory? If I had to pick those.

If we consider that both sides have good coaches, because it's always going to go down the coach, right? A shitty CrossFit coach is not going to be as effective as an excellent Orange Theory coach and vice versa. So if both coaches are really, really good, then I have to say pretty clearly that crossfit. And because Crossfit utilizes far more effective movement. It's not, it's, well, they wait train. This is a, yeah, this is another top of the shit pile or tallest midget situation, though, you know, this is like, yeah, not the worst case scenario. Yeah, this Yeah, this is not the ideal situation that I would want.

And if you look to me and say, I want to get shredded, I want to lean out, should I do CrossFit, should I do Orange Theory? Like, if that's like how you're already thinking, I would already say we're already heading down the wrong path. Like, I think there's so many other things that need to be addressed that don't even require you to do this circuit training.

Well, already it's the wrong mentality. It is. You're trying to lean out by using circuit training? Yeah, it's exactly. It's not. You would run methods. Unless you're in a good place, like if you're in a good place, you've got good my own mechanic.

Yeah, that's a very good point. Same way we recommend hit, you know what I mean? Yeah. Maps hit, like we even say in there, like you need to have some experience, you need to know what you're doing. You're not. This is definitely not for a beginner to just lose weight. Right.

If we are taking a person, which by the way, would probably fit in the 5% tile, that has got great body mechanics, that has got their nutrition lined up. They've got six weeks to go, and they have either or orn's theory or crossfit, which one's going to get me the most shredded crossfit? Well, and it's a very clear and cut because

ornestheria completely eliminated all the Olympic lifts, which I think is smart because they know a majority of the people are dangerous. Do they even use barbells or? No, it's only dumbbells. Yeah, so they don't even do squats, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's not even close.

Crossfit would trump it as far as, because you're gonna, you can build way more muscle doing CrossFit than you ever will doing Orange Theory. Therefore, it's by far gonna benefit you as far as the speed of getting leaned out. The problem with that theory is that the reason why Orange Theory is so successful is because they got rid of all those Olympic movements.

It requires less skill. Because it doesn't require as much skill and most people can't perform the correctly and they're getting heard in all these other reasons. So I think neither one of them are a great option. And I think that, I mean, it's even, okay, when I'm training someone to get ready for a show, including myself, cardio is the last thing. So burning tons of calories manually is the last thing that I go to.

I am manipulating your programming and your nutrition to get you to shred as fast as possible without even touching. Let's add a bunch more of exercise and movement because I know that that's the least substantial thing. I know I could teach somebody to resist eating something or to make smarter workout choices than I can to add more movement and more time.

And they're just looking at it, just look at it as a calorie burn. That's what it tends to happen. Yes. I need to burn this many calories today. You know, here's the, here's the, you're not moving the whole rest of the day, you know, too.

Like I get into a little bit of a debate with this because I prefer to just have people like super active. You know, too. Like I get into a little bit of a debate with this because I prefer to just have people like super active. You know, if you want to go in that direction, like just having an active day long, like you're active versus like super intense, like one window of like an hour. When I teach, as far as effectiveness, when I teach a competitor, you know, again, I've, you know, I've helped Melissa out even though I don't see her already more Like I used to when she's competing, but she's getting ready for another show. And now she'll just, every once a week, she'll send me over like, Hey, this is what I'm doing.

Coach, what's going on with, and no cardio right now. It's all neat based. And she's five weeks out from a show getting lean and shredded right now. And the only thing I would say, I go, okay, take your steps now up to 18 to 20,000 a day. That's all I want you to do. Just move throughout the day, walking, still not doing, and then 18 to 20,000 a day. That's all I want you to do. Just move throughout the day, walking, still not doing anything. And then when we do introduce cardio, it'll look like this.

All right, for the next week, I want you three times, three to five times after your workout, give me 12 to 15 minutes of just hit cardio. Just right afterwards, 12 to 15 minutes. But you're talking about like an elite athlete that's competing. And she's like five weeks off from the show. Right, and five weeks off from the show, you're the about like an elite athlete that's competing. And she's like five weeks off from right. And five weeks off from a show. You're the average person. None of that advice is even I'm not all I'm focusing is neat.

From a pure neat and lifting. From a purely calorie burning perspective. Okay, if you're living in that paradigm of I need to burn this many calories. Okay, forget anything else. Just from a purely how many calories I burn perspective. Doesn't fucking matter what you do. It really doesn't. If all you care about is I need to burn 600 calories

right now, then it doesn't matter. So you might as well do some housework or some other shit that's gonna go dig. Yeah, and you're back yard. Yeah, that's gonna benefit you that versus running in place, doing burpees or taking a class. Now that being said, there are other things that matter. While burning calories, can I build muscle,

can I improve upon my mobility, can I improve upon my strength, can I speed up my metabolism through that process? And the answer is you potentially could, in which case you wanna do that. You definitely wanna do that. You don't wanna just burn calories because you don't need a fucking class to do that.

You could literally stand and run in place and count the calories that you burn. And boom, voila, you've accomplished your ridiculous objective, which isn't gonna really help you that much. Just burning calories is a lot of work and a little bit of return. It's you're trying to dig a ditch with a spoon.

Like you can do it. You spin your wheel. Yeah, you can go dig a fucking pool with your spoon. Go, go try it, but you're gonna be there for months and it's gonna be super inefficient. Is this such a hard conversation to have the client too, especially when they come to you with a question like this, because I'm sure whoever this is,

there's probably something in mind that she's got a Vegas trip in four or six weeks on the hustle right now. Right, it's like now, it's like, holy shit, we plan this last year I do I got the girl the girls and I are going to be going to Vegas next month. It's pool parties here We come and oh shit. I'm not in the shape that I thought I was gonna be in this time of the year It's like okay now I got to get after it now and I'm gonna ask mine pump what is the fastest way for us to get get me in shape

There it's like well fuck man. Okay. Well, yeah, you could just start starving the body like crazy, training these high intensity classes. And in the next four to six weeks, you probably will make the most change that you can in your physique by doing that. The problem is that as soon as you go party and have a good time and you come back, like you're going to be up shit creek, you know, back to square one. Yeah. You're going to be stuck in that hamster wheel. Oh, yeah. Each time you try to do that, again, it's going to be be even harder but really hard to tell someone that because I'll tell someone that and then like I don't care I don't care. I don't call I care about is this yes So tell me bro. I get messages

Every year from family members. Yeah, every year. Yeah, every to the point where I got so mad What I think might have been even my brother where he'll'll send, and this always happens, like, oh dude, what if I, what's the best way to eat to lose like the most weight in three weeks? Yeah. I've been like, do you listen? Okay, I've written you programs. Yeah. I've written you meal plans.

I've talked about nutrition. I've told you how the body works. This is the 15th time you've asked me the stupid question. You want to know how you lose the most weight in three weeks? Here's what you do. Don't eat. You want to lose weight in a faster, cut your leg off. Your fucking scale will go down like, I get so mad with people like, keep asking me the same fucking question. I'm like, you know what's going to happen next year? You're just going to come back and tell me, ask me again, what's the fastest way? Can you give me some more time? How about you tell me, Hey, Sal, what's the best way I can get in shape for next year?

Then we'll sit down and talk, but you always get to come to me fucking three weeks before you're event. I was like, ah, okay, I don't know, cut your car, you need super low calories, you'll have a lot of cardio. Well, I love the extreme analogy because it's really true. I mean, that's what you're doing.

Like, if you're asking me, I've only got four to six weeks to work with you and I want to lose the most amount of body fat as possible, well, quite frankly eat for the next six weeks. I mean that will do it and and it's like and people Oh, that's crazy. I'm not gonna do that. Well, well, you're asking me crazy That's the answer to your stupid question Yeah, that is the answer to your stupid question and if you if you think that's crazy Then be just a little less crazy maybe eat every three days from now Like that's really what you're where you're going with the question like that,

where it's, I dumb mentality, so it deserves a dumb response. It is, and so if, again, if I'm trying to help this person, and so first we try to help by explaining that, so hopefully you get the point, but from this point to whatever it is that you have, because I'm sure this person has a date in mind whether it be Vegas or a wedding or something

that's coming up really soon, and that's why the question came out. You want each week you want to create more movement and you more movement which will create a caloric deficit somehow and you don't want to go extreme because if you go really extreme right out the gates then you're going to see diminishing returns over the second, third, fourth, and fifth week. So you want to do just enough restriction, calorie wise, or create just enough extra movement that you have a nice little 500 to a round. Get rid of all your furniture.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, so you don't sit down. Get rid of all your furniture, right? Yeah. You can't sit down. You can't fucking relax. And nutrition's going to play the biggest role.

Right. So, you know, CrossFit Orange Theory, you know, resistance training, running, aerobic, whatever, your food intake's gonna play the biggest role with us. But if you had to pick, if you're forced between the two and they both have really, really good coaches, CrossFit wins, you have good mechanics. Yep, yep.

Next question is from Ray Lehman. How do you recommend measuring and tracking body composition? What do you think is an ideal healthy body fat percentage for a woman who does not intend to compete but wants to be fit? So I get this question a lot and that's why I picked it. What's the good body fat percentage? Well, first of all, it's testing. Well, it's testing wise.

Yeah, it's true. Is there anything better than the hydrostatic? Well, let's address that first. Okay. So here's a thing with that. All of them. Well, first of all, it's testing-wise. Yeah, that's true. Is there anything better than the hydrostatic? Well, let's address that first. So here's a thing with that, all of them. It turns into this thing where we, again, like, camps. You know, what is, like, oh, you know, this skin fold is this is the bod pod.

Yeah, then it's like all these different ways of measuring. And to be honest, even the worst one is within about a percent or two of accuracy, even like your shittiest of scales. So probably the worst thing out there is probably some my own electric impedance. Probably some Walmart fucking stand on the scale thing that's fucking cheap, right? But if you've got skin fold, you've got bod pod, you've got the hydroside. All those are within like 0.2% of each other, right?

So what I tell clients is whatever is most convenient for you, whether you've got a bod pod nearby, you can go get a hydrostatic way, you can get skin full done, even if you have one of those bio-peed-ins ones that like at Nutra Shop or that, even those are fine. You're really using it as a tool, a feedback tool for you.

It is not the fucking end. It is not the answer, it's not what should be like, oh, I'm here, so that means I'm doing this right now. It's like, it's just like the scale to me It's just like the what your scale says up or down. It is not the end all it does not mean necessarily that good or bad is happening Just starting point. Yeah, it is it's a starting point It's it gives you a little bit more feedback that okay. I'm at this percent body fat. Doesn't matter what it reads

Doesn't even matter if it's that accurate. It's that okay okay, I use this tool. I woke up at this time. I did, you're going to be consistent with it, whatever tool you use, right? I want to do it first thing in the morning. I don't want to be, I don't want to eat, I don't want to drink, and you want to do it right away. And then from there, I now I'm going to apply my theory, which is if I do these exercises and I eat this way, I should hopefully lose body fat and or build muscle. And then I come back and I check in two to four weeks.

And I use that and what it says to tell me how close I am to being right. And at the end of the day, I'm never gonna be 100% perfect. But I hopefully, after those two to four weeks, I can look back and see that, hey, looks like I've lost some body fat, looks like I've built a little bit of muscle and or if it's off a little bit, I didn't lose that much body fat,

and I didn't move the, in the right way. Now I have a tool that's giving me feedback that I can go, okay, it looks like I was cutting too many calories, I was cutting so hard that I was equally losing fat and muscle that fast, because I was restricting too much, so I'm going to bump my calories a little bit, right? So that's how I'm using the body fat percentage.

Yeah. It's not the accuracy of the body fat test isn't as important as the consistency of the body fat test. So what I mean by that is body fat tests all vary in terms of their accuracy. So like, you know, underwater weighing is the most accurate in terms of their accuracy. So like, you know, underwater wing is the most accurate in terms of measuring the closest to what your actual body fat percentage is. So that's going to be the most accurate. But what you really want, what you should really care about is how consistent are the readings. And what I mean by that is, for example, bioelectric

impedance, where you put your hands on the handles in it, sends a electric wave or whatever through your body, and then that will calculate how much body fat you have. The problem with that one is it's not super consistent. Like I could test my body fat right now, then I could go hydrate the shit out of myself with water and carbs, test it again, and my body fat will have changed. So it's inconsistent, and so that's what you don't want.

You don't want it consistency. What you want is something that's going to give you the same reading, you know, now, and it will, you know, 10 minutes from now, even if my body position is different or whatever. Yeah, you have to standardize it. That's it. You have to have a process word. I'm not eating and I do it first thing in the morning. You know, I have it scheduled. It's the same exact routine ritual that you duplicate the next time you go to test. Otherwise, all

those variables will skew your results. Right. So you want it to be consistent so that you can measure it on a weekly basis and see what the trend is. Because if it's an inconsistent method of body fat testing, well then it's tough because if it's off by a percent, you don't know if you gained better a lot of fat. It's the same way that I use my Fitbit right now. Like, you could, someone could say, oh, the Apple Watch is more accurate to the stride, it's 0.2% closer to the average.

Yeah, as long as it's consistent, nobody cares. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter to me, which tool is 0.25% more accurate than the other one? Like, that doesn't fucking matter to me. I'm using it as feedback from me. If I'm using the same tool all the time It's consistent. That's all I care That's my point let's get fuel points there. What the fuck does that

Way go Nike. Yeah, what do you know? Back you dry hell is fuel point? It just went away, too It just died I completely outshed And just totally useless. Yeah, all you want is the tool to be consistent the tools consistent That's fine and then you use that as you as the feedback. Now, as far as like what body fat percentage you want to aim for, well, if you're a woman, you definitely don't want to be above 30% body fat. Is it a competitor asset? Question one didn't say it, you just know. No, just a normal person. And if you're a man, you definitely don't want to be above 20% body fat.

Now, why, why those numbers? Why 20 for a man and why 34 a woman? Well two things. First off, women naturally have a higher percentage of their body weight, B body fat. So a man that's at 10% body fat, for a woman to have that equivalent rate of leanness, she's probably going to be around 15%, or 16% or something like that. So women are always going to measure higher. But why did I come up with 20 and 30%? There is some literature that suggests that when a man goes above 20 percent body fat, for example, that the negative health associations that come with body fat

start to dramatically increase. So in other words, he could be fit, he could be very healthy. But the mere fact that his body fat now is above 20% and climbing, that will now start to give him negative health effects. And for a woman, that number is 30%. So because there is, you can have a man who's 10%, and you can have another man that's 17%, and both of them can be extremely healthy,

even though one has a lot more body fat. Right, right. You know, they could have healthy diets, they could have good activity, you know, everything is good. So, you know, as far as that diets, they could have good activity, you know, everything is good So you know as far as that concern it doesn't make a you know a huge difference But when it comes to Above 20% for a man now you start to see negative health effects and for a woman above 30%

You start to see those negative health effects now as far as what women are typically seeking because the question is where should I be? Right most women I've trained are happy in the low 20s. Most women are very happy at 20%, and most women are extremely happy in the high teens for body fat. So I would say probably 18 to 23% is probably a range where most of my clients have been like, most of my female personal trainers that worked for me, like a good fit personal trainer was 16 to 18% body fat for a female.

Yeah, a fit personal trainer. Yeah, fit personal trainer is walking around around 16, 18% for a female and for a guy is probably walking around 10 to 12%. So that's kind of what the, if you're looking at a personal trainer is like this. And for a guy, I know there's obviously a bunch of trainers out there look terrible, but that gives you a giving example of, you know, what a fit person trainer.

And then for a guy, it's probably like, I know for most men a six pack appears right around 10%. So, you know, give or take a percent depending on how developed your abs are. I know my abs didn't show up at about until I got about 8%. But then when I started to build my abs, now they show it show it you know 10 or 11% so there's that range there but for yeah and that's and that's gonna you know that's something too like when we get another reason why don't get caught up in the percentages man you know a lot of competitors that I can be with don't even pay attention to why would you cares nobody cares what your body percentage is when you're on certain people nobody cares a real life either yeah they

right yeah go how you look no that's it that's it was it was was, I was one of the few bodybuilders that actually used like the dunk tank and things like that. And again, I was using it as a tool. Like I used it because yeah, feedback. I was constantly manipulating things in my program, manipulating things in my diet and going like, okay, I think if I restrict this much, I should just carve off body fat if I do this correctly. And then I would get the tool, use the feedback and go like, oh good, I was right on point. Or oh shit, that was too much. I cut too correctly. And then I would get the tool, use the feedback and go like, oh good, I was right on point. Or oh shit, that was too much. I cut too hard, I need to add more calories.

Or I didn't cut hard enough, right? So I think learning to use it like that and I ain't getting caught up in a percentage or a number because I've seen many bodies at the same percentage look completely different. And some people have fatty organs. Some people have their organs are a lot, because they're diet, there's like skinny fat people,

and you've seen this a lot, right? Or you have somebody who doesn't look like their fat, but they test really, really high, because their organs are really fat. It's much the time. Well, they've got that visceral body fat. You see this in men. You'll see this in women sometimes too,

where sometimes you have a female client who's just obviously doesn't lead a healthy lifestyle, maybe high cortisol, food intolerances, and she'll store body fat more like a man. You'll see more of this midsection body fat and she'll get her legs will get skinny, everything else will get skinny in her midsection, in which case, you know, changing the lifestyle to make it more healthy. And that's simply just eating less calories and burning more calories. But I would say for for a guy, a guy, 12 to 15% is probably

where most men would be happy. The average guy, I'm for a woman, I'd say anywhere between 19 to 23% or something like that is probably, and some women like to be, even in the mid 20s, especially if you're a woman that likes to be more voluptuous and curvy. You can be 25% body fat, and if you're healthy and you're fit and you have good the way you store body fat

Represent that yeah, yeah, go ahead go to the right area. Yeah, man Hey, look a lot of people believe it or not Don't realize that we all have our own Independent social media pages say why that's right each of us have different information on each of these pages You can go on justice page or or Adam's page or my page. See what we're up to, see what we're talking about if we're posting any studies, any fitness stuff, funny stuff, whatever. You can find us all on Instagram.

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