Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 776: Importance of Performing a Full Squat, Avoiding Food Intolerances, Recovering from Divorce & MORE

Episode Date: May 23, 2018

Organifi Quah! iTunes Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about if it is necessary to squat ass to grass if you are not planning on powerlifting, the likelihood of developing a food intolerance with frequently consumed foods, what they would do to reprogram the fitness, health & wellness industry and best practices to assist someone in processing moving past divorce. Erectile Dysfunction Meds Prescribed Online, Delivered. Mind Pump new sponsor, Roman! (4:16) Wait, are Chuck Liddell and Tito Ortiz really going to fight again?! The guys talk mixed martial arts, aging professional athletes and MORE. (11:33) Mind Pump Weekend Update: Sal’s daughter first communion and putting differences aside seeing his ex-wife. (29:30) MIIR Event recap (36:00) UPDATE: Against Amazon's Wishes, Seattle Passes 'Head Tax' on Big Businesses. (41:46) How Much Did the Royal Wedding Cost? You'll Gasp at the Hefty Price Tag. (47:45) #Quah question #1 – Is it necessary to squat ass to grass if you are not planning on powerlifting? (57:39) #Quah question #2 – What is the likelihood of developing food intolerances with frequently consumed foods? (1:07:27) #Quah question #3 - What would you do to reprogram fitness, health & wellness industry? (1:19:25) #Quah question #4 – Thoughts and best practices to assist someone in processing moving past divorce? 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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, obite, ob with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this pumped up and engorged episode of Mind! POP! For the first 54 minutes of this episode, we do our normal conversation, introductory conversation. We start off by talking about erectile dysfunction. Hey, boners, no existing. And our new sponsor, Roman.

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The geriatric MMA champion, just like a decade ago or right now. It's coming up. Right now. We talk about my daughter's communion. That was fun. We talked about the dosis and mere events. Awesome. Yeah, good, good time.

We talk about recovering from alcohol with activated charcoal and organified turmeric. Yes, we are also sponsored by Organify. If you go to OrganifyShop.com, enter the code MindPump, you'll get a massive discount. We also gave an update on the Seattle head tax. They're trying to tax themselves into oblivion. And the Royal Weddings, $45 million price tag. Sal was super excited about this.

Who paid it for that? He videotaped it. Tax pairs did. Then we get to the questions. The first question was, this person's trainer is saying that they don't really need to squat all the way down unless they want a power lift.

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Now the question is, what's the likelihood that they'll have a similar reaction to another food that they frequently. Now wasn't this at one of the guys I saw, I remember tagging you guys, there's a guy that was going through answering all the mind pump questions. He was. He answered this. And I feel like you picked this question intentionally just to make sure our audience knows what's up. Yeah, what's up, buddy? I feel like you did that on purpose and out

knowledge me. Right. I think it's important that if there's not a mind pump in somebody's name and they're answering questions on a mind pump page, be careful. Well, it works for me. Proceed. Proceed. Right, right, proceed with gosh. The next question was if we could completely change the fitness, health and wellness industry, like we could control it and change it, what would that look like to each of us?

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What do you guys think about our new our new sponsor company we're working with Roman. I'm actually I'm excited to sign up and try everything out. But are you really excited? Yeah, we'll find out how excited I'm going to be. Taylor has been working on it for some time. He showed me everything and I kind of duped through their stuff.

I'm like, okay, I'm interested in this, especially with what I'm going through right now. Here's why I like this company. So what Roman is, Roman provides erectile dysfunction, medications like generic viagra, generic sialless and others. But the reason why I like them is they eliminate a lot of the middle man or the rigor moral that you had to do before where you'd have to go to a doctor, you have to do the whole process.

This is all done. I mean, as long as you've seen a doctor over the last five years, you just do it all online. You know how much the visit is online? Everything online. Dude, everything's online. So you're just going to screen. 15 dollars. It's a 15 dollar doctor visit,

which you get refunded if you don't qualify for prescription. Well, that's interesting. Yeah, so you have nothing to lose. You go on there, you do the, you set up the appointment or whatever, it's an appointment with a doctor online, cost 15 bucks, and then if you're approved, I think it's like super fast shipping, right, Doug's like next day or something like that,

or a couple of days, I don't know. Well, it's cool about this was I was talking to Taylor, Taylor's been talking to them for some time, and when he first started talking to them, they wanted to do something, I would told him, I'm not yet right now, and the reason why is because I wanted to do everything I can possibly naturally, I wanted to be consistent that way for a while.

Are you gonna try getting on? Yeah, well, I wanna get a prescription, so I have it for the times when I absolutely feel like, okay, here's a deal, like, I can tell already, like I'm not a hundred percent back to myself, right? And I know we have our test that we're gonna take and we'll find out exactly so people that are wondering exactly where my levels are we'll get to that eventually

But I can tell I can feel where my libido is at and I have I seem to have like if it's a really good week like maybe when we're not traveling and flying I'm getting I got four workets at workouts in the week like my diets dialed in like I feel pretty good You know, I feel pretty normal, but I've also noticed it just in the last few weeks that you know when we were traveling late nights Diet's not as dialed missing workouts. I can already I can feel the libido like dip So it would be nice for me to have like on hand like a prescription that when I come home And I haven't seen my girl for like seven days and she absolutely wants to make sure that she gets some I want to I want to be able to say, okay, if I need to tap into this, I can come and tap into it.

Ideally, I'm always going to go whole foods and do all the things that I need to do first. But I mean, let's be real. There's times when we fly in at 10 o'clock at night and go into the gym and organizing the diet already that fast. Like, no, it'd be nice if I had this as an option for me. So I was like, okay. This is one of those things you know, it's an indication something's off, right?

Yeah. So that's, I mean, that's definitely something. This is like a, not the answer for everything, but this is something like Adam's saying in certain scenarios, if this is an issue, you know, the cell phone puts it in the bedroom. Here's what's important. So, erectile dysfunction can indicate

that you might have something wrong with your health, like, you know, like you have high blood pressure or poor cardiovascular health. Also, many times, many times, it's an indication of anxiety and stress. And here's what happens with a lot of these cases. Is that a guy will have erectile dysfunction for whatever reason. Let's say he's stressed. Let's say he just got out of a long relationship. He's getting in a new one.

Let's say it's a new girl or work is stressful or whatever. He can't perform. Now that performance anxiety starts to feed into more performance anxiety. So what they found is many times men will take erectile dysfunction medications so that they can build up their confidence and feel okay and then they go off of them. No, that's a hundred percent. I could see myself.

Let me tell you, and this is Taylor and I went back and forth discussing this because I was like, you know, the only way I would be okay with something like this is if it's something that I would, I've been exploring myself. It's been something that I'm like, I can tell that when that happens, and then what it leads to too is my girl is like bummed.

And then when she's bummed, then we have this long, big old deep talk, and it's me explaining like, listen, honey. Which makes it worse. Right, again, exactly. Then it makes it worse, it takes it out of the mood too. So that's even harder for that to happen. You know, no pun intended.

And then you're going into the next session or whatever, and you're like, oh my God, what if, you know, what if this happens again? I'm stressed out, and then of course that contributes to the whole problem. So it's one of those things where, you know, it can, in the way these medications work, as they inhibit and enzyme that, breaks down nitric oxide. So, because these drugs, like Viagra, for example, was created to combat high blood pressure,

because it lowers blood pressure through vasodilation, through opening the blood vessels and increasing blood flow. And of course they notice the side effect of more erections and the brilliant makers of Niagara were like, instead of trying to lower people's blood pressure, let's do this, it's way more, it's not a thing else is happening here. Yeah, it's not a super good blood pressure medication,

but it gives people erections. And it's not what you're, no, I've talked like again, I've been talking to Taylor for quite some time about all this stuff and sharing this with him, but I haven't had a chance to talk too much with you about this. Like, what is your take on something like this?

Like, obviously, I don't think it's something that would be ideal to be taking it all the time. I mean, what, I think it depends on the, what are the detriment? It depends on the situation. So the medications are, and of course,

for as long as they've been around, they seem to be relatively safe. Now there are, you know, I'm not a doctor. So I want to make that clear, but there are some potential dangers if you have, you can have like all of a sudden real low blood pressure, which can cause fainting, whatever if you have poor cardiovascular health,

probably not a good idea to take the medication. So it is prescription, you do want to make sure you get cleared before you take any of these things, but what you can do that all virtually here. Yeah, that's just cool about this. As long as you've seen a doctor in person over the last five years,

and you've been cleared of any major health stuff, then the online visit is fine. If you haven't seen a doctor in five years, then I think they'll require to go see a doctor. But you know, most people have seen a doctor over the last five years. But here's the other thing too. Sex is a very important part of health.

So if you're in a relationship or you're in a situation where erectile dysfunction is degrading your quality of life, then it may be worth it to do something like, look, it's no different, it's actually much safer, but it's kind of similar to other medications. Like, let's say you're very depressed and you know, you're just in a hole and you feel like you can't get out of that hole.

Well, an antidepressant may give you enough energy, may make you feel good enough to get yourself out, to do the things that'll make you feel better. So with a rectal dysfunction, medications like this may give you the confidence to then no longer have anxiety for this particular issue or problem or whatever, and then later on you can, you don't necessarily need to take it. So that's the, that's the, that's the thing. It is definitely a health situation. I know people joke about it or whatever.

Get out of a hole and get into a hole. Yeah. Thanks. Well, I'm going to love that one. Thank you. I know people joke about it or whatever you'd out of a hole and get into a hole Switching gears really quick here. Did you guys see what's going on with Chuck LaDelle and fucking Tito Ortiz? Oh my god. Are they gonna fight? Bro, you guys haven't been makes me so sad tell me you have not been paying attention to this. Are you serious? You told us about it. Yeah, you mentioned it. I have followed up on it. So, uh, no, I have been, I've been diving through it like crazy because I'm just blown away. Chocolate Hills 49, bro. 49. I mean, let's be honest, though, 49, you

probably kicked the shit out of most people. Of course, but you don't have no business go to professional fight. But for a fighter, that's so weathered so at first I was like this is really weird So I had I went digging so I went digging through all kinds of stuff I've been like all in this shit for like the last weekend, right? So here's the here's all the rumors so before before Check the deal, try to find your friend. Look at his cloak. Check the deal, check the deal. Check the deal, check the deal.

Check the deal's trainer said this, fighting Tito Ortiz again is like, bang in a fat chick, you don't wanna keep doing it. Oh my God. That's an epic quote right there. It's just shit talk, yeah. They're gonna raise money, dude. They're gonna raise money doing that. So, okay, so here's what's going on, right?

So, I found out that Chuck had worked out this deal with Dana White and the original owners of UFC when they sold in 2016. So part of this deal, they made this sweet deal. Chuck was like one of the first big names for UFC. And so Dana White had made this kind of like, you know, backdoor deal with him like, Hey, we're going to forever take care of you for for being like the face of the UFC early on. So he's been on cruise control for, I mean, he's been retired for 10 years and they've been paying him. So he's been still making royalties. I don't know exactly how much or what that, but enough to pay for his mansion and his Ferrari and whatever the toys and things that he does. And so he's been living off these royalties. Well, when they sold in 2016, they said,

sorry dude, there's nothing, there's no contract deal. This or that, we're not honoring any of this shit they've been paying for a long time. So rumor has it the last two years, Chuck's been struggling financially. And again, this is rumors I'm just spreading. I don't know any facts or anything like that, but this is what everything that I've been diving through and what I've read and what I've heard

on other podcasts that are talking about this. And so that's part of the motivation behind why he's going to do it. Now the irony in all this is Oscar De La Hoya, it's Golden Boy productions that they're speaking to. Now the other room to put the fight together. To put the fight together because Vegas and UFC and they don't want nothing to do with it. They're like,

Bellator and all that. No, no, no, no one wants anything to do with this. They're just, no, thanks, no thanks. And so I was listening to Chell Sonnen talk about this and he was talking shit about how dumb Chuck Lattell and Tito Ortiz are because they think or he thinks that

this is all a boy by Golden Boy to kind of give a little dig back to MMA forgetting into their business. Because Dana White's get jumps into to the boxing world and puts on the the biggest fuck and fight ever with Mayweather and McGregor. And so this is Golden Boy being like, stay out of my business, I'll stay out of yours. And so he's kind of fucking with them by having these talks. And the reason why Chell Sonnet thinks it's all bullshit,

because these guys are out promoting a fight that doesn't even really legitimately exist yet. There's no one that is signed with them production wise. They don't have a location. And he's like, so what you're seeing right now is such bullshit because you would never promote a fight like this. You would never promote a fight until it's on.

Things are locked in. So yeah, till you have an event, till you can sell tickets because right now there's lots of hype. Everyone's gonna be talking about it. There's shit, there's all kinds of people speculating how stupid it is, how awesome it would be or I would still watch it.

So this is when you would want ticket sales and a date already locked in and they don't even have that. So what he thinks is that Oscar De La Hoya is manipulating these two idiots and getting them to talk on all their social media platforms to. Well, you know, Tito's not the dumbest business guy. Tito's actually, here's the thing with fighters, by the way, fighters. Typically, I've been throughout history, I've been terrible business people, terrible, like the stereotype of the old retired heavyweight champion boxer who's now broke and running a bar, I mean, there's a lot of truth to that.

And you see this a lot with professional athletes who they make all this money, but they don't know how to manage it, what to do with it. And so you ask yourself, like Mike Tyson, do you need to go bankrupt at some point? Like, would you do with all those hundreds of millions of dollars? Right. Too much. I feel terrible for these guys, because first off, from what I've read,

Chuck LaDelle isn't his old self. Not just because he's old, but because he got banged around a lot. Both of them have. Yeah. And fighters don't age very well. You know, when you get blasted in the head like that, you know, over and over again for years or a decade because I know Chuck LaDelle fought for a long time. He didn't just fight in the UFC, fought before the UFC.

He's been getting blasted for a while. Yeah, just in training, just taking all those shots. Yeah, dude. That shit adds up. Yeah, you guys know the term punch trunk, right? It's the CTE, that's what it is. But, you know, and they start slurring and it just doesn't look good. I don't think, and I think one of the reasons

why these organizations don't wanna take them on is because they don't wanna bring to light how sad, how terrible it is. Well, it just looks bad. I mean, it's like, it shines a light on like, how little they do for their fighters as far as having them set up for retirement, having a plan, networking, and getting them connected to the right people

for investments and things like that. They're just behind all the other major sports. You look at the NFL, I think it's a week longer, a two week course when you get into the NFL. Yeah. These guys go through to like warn them and like listen, there's gonna be women that are gonna try and sleep with you. Oh, they do all that.

Oh yeah, they have classes in there. They've had to, I mean, through all the pushback that's happened for, I mean, because the, I can't remember the statistics that I read on this, but it's crazy the amount of professional athletes like in the NFL, NBA, and sports like this, that end up going broke. Many of them are 20 years.

I mean, I know how much I wowed out as a 25 year old, 23 year old that was making okay my money. They would compare my money, compare to what these guys are making like I wasn't making anything. But for me, it was a lot of money that I was used to. And I remember how much I wowed. I couldn't imagine if I was making it. Dude, it's not lot of money that I was used to. And I remember how much I, wow, I couldn't imagine if I was making it.

Dude, it's not. And we're talking about MMA. Like that's the least paid sport, you know, in terms of like what they do. Yeah, how popular they are. Like they get paid dog shit. And dangerous. And extremely dangerous.

Like what people don't realize is you're this young kid, you go from broke to top of the world, you're making all this money. People are throwing themselves at you. Women are top of the world. You're making all this money. People are throwing themselves at you. Women are all over the place. Drugs are being given to you. Like you can, everybody thinks you're the coolest person in the world.

And it's a very short window. It's not a long window. How long do you think you have at that, in that particular, you know, space or whatever? Five years, eight years. And so then you go from king to nothing, very, very quickly. And what you're left with is maybe brain damage.

You have money, don't know how to manage it. Nobody really cares about you anymore. You're kind of has been, if you're a warrior, here's the thing too, if you identify with being a warrior, at some point you're no longer a warrior anymore, you got to kind of deal with that. So I feel for these people. I know.

I feel for that. Can you imagine that climb in that descent? Very, very different. Well, I think that's what happens to some of these guys is, you know, they're now approaching their mid 40s or whatever. And it's like, who am I? You know, if I'm not this fighter who fights everybody and punks, you know, and go and talk shit and gets into the ring and makes his $100,000 of dollars, like who am I? And they still fight within them, right? They want to prove, no, I can still fuck people up.

It's a tough one. Now, I mean, the other side of it too is of course, and this is something that is, it's kind of a male thing is we tend to respect the old warriors quite a bit, the old, there's always that level of respect. You guys ever meet an old pro wrestler, and I say old, I say in their 50s and 60s,

you ever meet one of them? They're all broken. I forgot where I was, it was a pro wrestler, he was like 60, I mean, he had a cane, could barely move, but every guy in that room was just like, he's the man, he basically sacrificed himself for this thing, you know, for the sport and he demonstrated. So there's that side of the go-

Like two billion, yeah. But I feel bad, like, you know, and I heard Chuck isn't, isn't, isn't totally with it. I forgot who I was listening to. I watched him do a full interview. Is he okay? Well, he's, he's the same Chuck that he's always been.

Oh, so he doesn't seem different. Yeah, he didn't seem different. I mean, but he's never seemed like the sharpest tool in the shed in the first place. He doesn't come off that way. So like when you was, he just did, he did an interview with, like what's that guy's name?

He announced it like this. So I watched a full hour interview for him, talking about this fight. I watched a full one on Tito. I watched Chell Sonnen talk about it and multiple podcasts of his, read some articles on it, I watched a full one on Tito. I watched Chell Sonnen talk about it and multiple podcasts to his, read some articles on it, watch Dana White comment on it.

So I've consumed a bunch of information regarding like this whole thing, because I was really fascinated by, are these fucking guys going to really get together and fight at the, you know, 40 something, 49 years old? I think that's just, and Chuck's been out for 10 years. Now Tito's only been out for a year. Tito fought a year and a half ago. They're a witty fight. I don't know. He was fighting in Bellator Yeah, well as gonna say Chale was like still trying to make it work for a while too

So it's interesting that he you know give him shit for it. So you know what I after diving into this I've actually started listening to some of Chale so we gotta get him on the show. I love how I talk We were we were we were We were in conversation with him about a year and a half ago. I remember that. They were small and I just haven't reached, I just, it fell to the side. I love him.

Yeah, I'm gonna reach out again to him because I really, I really like his commentary, dude. He's, he's fucking funny. He's hilarious. He's actually really intelligent. He is. He's hilarious and he's very smart. Yeah, he's really smart.

Yeah. I was listening to him like break down the business side and how people are so stupid to even think that this is anything serious. And like the way he laid it out, I was like, oh, fuck, I didn't even know that. I didn't know this that he brought up too, was that Oscar De LaHoyas already made a run

at trying to do something in the USC before it was failed. Really? He was behind a fliction when a fliction started, when they were trying to win not the shirts, but when a fliction started their own and the made. Do you remember that little short window when they were trying to pull from the USC? Yes. And it fell flat on its face that he was behind all that. And so that's kind of the deal is like the whole idea is that Oscar is kind of

poking back at Dana over all this and Dana's probably like, I don't give a shit. You've already tried to get into our space and I've already proven that I can get into your space and throw the biggest fight of the fucking year, you know what I'm saying? So I wish there was a league, there was an organization for just grappling,

but you know, in a way where they made some rules to make it a little bit more exciting, I think that would be really cool. And I think it would be a cool thing for... I did try and that with Madam Morris. Yeah, you know, here's the thing with Jiu Jitsu. It'll never work. It's Jitsu. It'll never work. It's so technical.

It'll never work because even the like it's right now, and I know you probably get annoyed by this. And I do too, because I appreciate the whole fight game and all of MMA, but you have to have an appreciation for what happens on the ground to enjoy that part of the game. Because when you're in the arena, dudes will boo when people are down on the ground, doing jizzos.

Well, in America, in Japan, in Brazil, because they have a long pedigree of ground. Right, right, I can see that. Or submission fighting. Here's the thing, if you want to make a grappling tournament popular in America, you have to create rules that prevent jumping into the guard, scooting on your butt, laying on your back for a long time.

And you have to be able to score high points for big throws, because the most exciting part of grappling in for Americans is a fucking throw, like a big ass throw. So given like big points for that, hit the ground, you know, they stay on the ground for so long, if it looks like they're stalling, stand them up and go for the throw again. And if you jump guard, you're out. Isn't that what's his face that's connected to on it? Try to do by creating his own like Eddie Bravo. Yeah, Eddie Bravo. See, but here's a problem like Jiu Jitsu purists don't like that

because I know this. Look, I get this because I did Jiu Jitsu for a long time. A Jiu Jitsu purist is like, look, just let the fight go whoever wins wins and there's no time limit and it's just pure submission. And I get that. I get that. I enjoy that type of fighting myself. I just don't, it's just no spectators want to watch it. The throws are what's exciting. So you have to ask yourself, you have to ask yourself as someone who's indigestion or

you, do you care about the sport progressing and growing and being bigger and actually making money doing this? Or do you just love the game and you love to play? I want the way I look at it is this. If you're a wrestler, okay, let's say you're, because America doesn't have a huge tradition of submission fighting. We had catch wrestling back in the day, but it wasn't like this huge national thing. You know, Judo is kind of popular, but not massive.

Yeah, I was gonna say, he's like, Judo has the closest to that, right? Cause you get a lot of the hip toss. Yeah, but it's not. Yeah, it's judo judo and jujitsu came from and Brazilian jiu-jitsu came from the same source. Yeah. judo's just got its own rules to that made it kind of tournament style or whatever. But there's not a large like a culture and tradition behind that in America. The closest we have is American collegiate wrestling or Greco-Roman wrestling.

Yeah. But if you're a let's say you're a wrestler, let's say you're a collegiate wrestler and you're all American one of the best in the world, after that you're done. After college, like where do you go? Olympics and then you're done. So I would love to see a league where wrestlers, grapplers, jujitsu guys, judo guys, they could enter. And it's submission win, high points for a throw. You can't jump guard, you can't scoot on your butt,

you only stay on the ground for a certain period of time and then the ref has to pop you up. Just to make it exciting, and I know it's not pure grappling, I know the Gigi2 people listening right now are like, oh yeah. But let me tell you, if you create a big league that's making a lot of money, it'll grow all those other sports.

You know what I mean? It'll grow the sports of grappling, it's not a bad thing. That's how you make it exciting. Otherwise, because even I watch that you know it reminds me all those other sports. You know what I mean? It'll grow the sports of grappling. It's not a bad thing. And that's how you make it exciting. Otherwise, because even I watch that you know it reminds me that's like when we dabbled in the whole catabell sport for a minute, because we were like, this is really cool and we thought it was cool for a minute.

But it's just not a very spectator friendly sport. No, it's very, the people who are in it love it, just like you're jitsu. And so it's always gonna have that strong base. But for the average person, the average person walking in and watching a competition, they're like, what's going on? You know, I don't know what's happening.

They understand, we have a pedigree of boxing in America. So people understand, jabs and straights and knocks someone out, and they get that. Well, you don't even, well, you can't, but you don't even need to be a fan of the sport to really understand what's happening in a boxing match.

So I'm saying like, one guy's hitting the other guy. It's very obvious. Yeah, when he is or is not and it's basic. But we'll even put up with technical boxing more than we would with technical wrestling. You know what I'm saying? Like if boxes are boxing technically, Americans understand that or appreciate that more than that.

I don't know. I don't know if I fully agree with that. I mean, look how many people hate Mayweather because he's one of arguably the greatest technical fighter ever to fight. Yeah, but you lost a lot of favor when MMA came out because it was so fucking boring after a while after like Linux, Lewis, and everybody else are coming out and like, you know, just technical boxing was taken over. Yeah, but he's still still there's a people understand it more.

There's a much bigger audience for it. Like, technical grappling. Let me tell you something, people would be like the fuck's going on right now. Yeah, they're in Jitsu and we know I did. And especially when you're in at the fight, like, because I've sat all over at a UFC fight, so I've sat really close far away and like, mid and it's a really shitty thing to watch live. It really is.

Like, I mean, sure, the energy in the place is cool, but when you talk about some of my least favorite sports to watch live, well, MMA is for sure. You need somebody like a Joe Rogan or something like that's breaking down step by step. Oh, he's setting them up for you. Yes, that camera angle that is just right

so I can see where he's grabbing them and holding them or what he's setting up. If you're in the audience, I don't care if you're fucking on the cage. You're still looking through a cage and you're on one side of it. If they're on the other side on the ground, you have no idea what's going on on their side.

So what's dope about watching that on TV is they have camera angles from everywhere. So at all times, I can see 360 around this athlete that all the little details. So it makes me enjoy the fight, man, it's live. It's like, you know what you guys would like? You know what's a good sport to watch is combat, Sombo, combat, Sombo similar to MMA,

but they score a lot of points for throws. And they wear a G, but they also have the gloves on. So you can still punch and kick, but once you grab, you're not allowed to punch anymore and kick, and then you throw. I love the kickboxing tournaments. I don't know why that hasn't taken off here in the States, but they've tried K1 a little bit, they've introduced it, but I think K1 is awesome.

It's the culture, dude. We don't have a large, long pedigree of that kind of stuff. Well, now that we have UFC, which arguably is the best of all the worlds, right? You can be a K1 guy, you can be a Sombok guy, and you can enter in the UFC, and it be, so that's just the mix of different variables, you know, that makes it even more exciting. That's what they had to, they had to put new rules

in to make MMA popular in America, because MMA existed in Brazil and Japan for a long fucking time. It's called Valetudo in Brazil. Those two brutal, I'm curious. There were no gloves. It was too bad. Yeah, they had to make rules.

I watched it as a kid when it was all underground. When no one knew what it was. It was, you had to get the cassettes. You guys are three hundred pound guy versus, you know, hundred. So great. Did you guys ever watch Gracie, Gracie in action? The old Gracie in action? Yeah, I remember those.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, those were good. It was so fun watching it because he would. He would take on guys that would have 50 pounds on him, dude. And he would just, he would tie him up like they were jokin' up. It used to be awesome. Yeah, it's the level of watch that.

Yeah, that was great, man. Anyway, so this weekend, what'd you guys do? We didn't really talk too much yesterday about what, because we got back for a really covering, yeah, from being up in Seattle and going on our trip and everything. I had my daughter's communion on that side. That's right, yeah.

So that's like a foreshadowing, like completely of her wedding day. Well, well, yeah, first off, let me tell you man, I get emotional. I kind of shouldn't see my little girl in a white dress, you know, walking over there and just being all sweet and whatever, it just, I just, it destroyed me. I was, but here's the thing though.

Here's the thing about the whole event that I want to tell you guys about. This was the first, the first family party that we've done where my ex-wife's family was there, her whole family, aunts, uncles, and cousins, and my family was all there. Oh wow. aunts, uncles, and cousins, right?

So both sides of the family got together first time since the divorce, where everybody got together. That is crazy. So we threw it at a restaurant in San Jose, Dopeo Zero, really good Italian restaurant and I think it's Cupertino.

And we had everybody there and my ex-wife had her boyfriend. I had Jessica there. So her family hadn't met Jessica, my family hadn't met her boyfriend, and it was fucking great. Yeah, everybody was cool. You know, I tell you, I'm gonna write a book on divorce at some point,

I swear to God, not because I'm gonna tell people how to do it, but because it's, No, that's, I mean that's, it's pretty like substantial thing that happened. Well, my aunt came up to me during the party and she's been divorced now for 20 years. It's probably some good books on divorce. Yeah, so she's been divorced for about 20 years

and she's like, I'm so amazed at how you guys are able to do this together. She goes, me and my ex still barely talk to each other and can't stand each other and don't work together. I couldn't imagine doing something like this. The fact that you guys can do this for your kids and me and my ex were I grabbed a drink together. I was drinking with her boyfriend. She was hanging out with Jessica. We were the families we're talking. Everybody was hugging, having a great time. And the best part is my kids get to see all that.

My kids get to, they know mom and dad aren't together, but they also know that everybody's still together. Right, there's no animosity. How awesome is it when he becomes friends with you and he calls and like vents to you all the time? I can't, you're like, I remember that. Yeah, actually. Just do this bro, we're gonna have time.

I'm gonna do this bro Set him up Yeah Bro I got no advice for you advice for you dude. You're fucked. You're fucked. I figured my way out of that. No dude, so her boyfriend comes up to me and he's a nice guy. He's a really nice guy.

I'm not going to say anything bad about the guy. He wants to make conversation with me and he probably feels awkward, obviously. He comes up to me and he wants to talk about working out. We're talking about exercises. He goes, I've been starting this new fitness program. It's really, really good. And he goes, He's made by shreds.

No, no, no. He goes, I've been following this fitness program. He goes, it's Mike Matthews. Do you have you heard of Mike Matthews? Are you serious? What are you serious? I swear on my life. Come on.

Oh, wow. I'm like, Mike, like, yeah, it's a good friend of mine. He's like, he is. He's like, yeah, dude, like, yeah, it's a good workout program. Like, you know, he can do maps if you want. I'll hook you up or whatever. So he's like, yeah, dude, like, yeah, he has a good workout program. Like, you know, you can do maps if you want. I'll hook you up or whatever. So he's like, yeah, I'm interested.

Bro, if I put him on maps and he starts working out, get built and tell him, my ex, that's gonna be so funny, bro. I'm following your ex's program. How funny is that that he's doing Mike Matthews stuff? He is, yeah, which is a good program. Shout out to our boy for sure. Yeah, so. But it was, it was, it. But it was really cool, man.

Everybody had a good time and the kids had a great time and fuck, man, I feel so diverse as one of the, it's definitely the darkest time of my life by far, by absolutely far. I'm not over it, still very difficult to deal with sometimes. But the way that we've been able to put all that stuff, because here's what happens when you get divorced from someone,

it's because you don't want to fucking be with them. Obviously, you don't like them. You just don't. You don't want to be around them. And that is a hard thing for your ego to deal with when you then also have to work with them because you have kids with them. They're basically in your life forever.

My ex-wife and me are always gonna be connected because we have two children together. So no matter what our differences were, no matter how bad it was or whatever, this is someone that I have to make the decision. I'm gonna have to, I wanna make this relationship as good as possible because, you know, we have to work together.

You have to put a lot of shit aside to do that and require some serious maturity from both people. And so, I mean, I wanna commend her because she's also been able to do that. It requires some serious maturity from both people. And so, I mean, I want to commend her because she's also been able to do the same thing. I mean, you know, imagine seeing your ex with another girl, another woman who's, you know, like Jessica, just because she's a stunning young lady. That would invoke some serious, you know, insecurities and anybody. And me seeing her with another person, even though I don't want to be with her, you see the other guy and you think, you might think to yourself, you try to compare whatever

and, you know, and you remember all the anim't want to be with her, you see the other guy and you might think to yourself, you try to compare it or whatever, and remember all the animosity and resentment on that shit. You just got to put that aside and just remember what's your line at them intended outcome or desired outcome? Yeah, desired outcome. So it worked out, that's really cool. We hung out in Seattle, we stayed in extra, we'll stayed the rest of the day and flew in back at like 9 p.m. at night I think it's good. You guys doing anything? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Well I really wanted to be home but I could tell that Katrina and Taylor wanted to stay and so that kind of trumped my feelings in what I mean by that. I felt it was a good idea for me to do something for them after everything that they had done to put it. Because they're responsible for a lot of that event. Oh, the orchestrated whole thing. Yeah, the whole tour thing is really Taylor's baby and with the assistance of Katrina and help from her too. So, you know, I was like, I saw the weather was going to be good. And so we, when there was a flight going out really late, and I was just, we'll hang around here and we'll go, go shopping and eat and kind of spend the day with them. So I had a really

good day with them. We walked the whole city all over the place and shopped for a little while. We ate at three different restaurants and, you know, just kind of hung out and kind of reflected on the whole event. It was a great event. It was. It was, man. It really was. I was really, I was happy with every single one of them too. And, you know, it was, again, thinking about Taylor. I mean, I know he was so stressed going into each one on like how it was. He could tell, man. Yeah, he was really stressing on how it was going to turn out. And he put a lot of pressure on himself. And I think he fucking hit it out the park. He did a good job. Yeah, I thought it was the relationships that we've now built with the companies like Viori and

Mir and Dosis. I couldn't be happier. I mean, God, we all got a chance. We had been courting these these companies for quite some time now, but to hang out with all the CEOs and then to rule people right for us to bond on that level. All people I would hang out with. Yeah. If I didn't work with them. Yeah. No, I'm already texting back and forth with both Jeremy and Brian via, you know, like there definitely are people.

Yep. Guys that we would hang out with outside of business, that I that really excites me about the companies and going for it. It is really cool to me. You know, my pump listeners in person. It's just, it's incredible to meet them because you know, you can put a face to, you know, the people listening to what you're doing.

It puts a different responsibility on me personally when I meet them and they tell me, when you said this, this helped me out or this made an impact here or whatever, it puts a different responsibility, a different kind of, it's very extremely humbling. It's extremely humbling to be, to be putting that position.

My favorite part though was after the event, when we all went to the bar afterwards with all the other listeners and had some drinks and stuff. And I brought you guys a nice double shot of Jack. How'd you like to tell? The night changed after that. I saw Adam's face when I had it of the shot. So I was thinking about getting a shot for everybody.

So I'm like, this will be fun. And nobody expects me to do that, right? So I'm like, I'm gonna get the fucking, I'm gonna get this thing going. So I told Katrina, I'm like, you think Adam will drink this if I get him a shot. And she's like, he won't say no if you say it for everybody.

So like, ha ha ha ha ha ha. She's like, go get it and say it for everybody. He'll like, I think eight-course lights, dude. Eight-course lights would fuck me up right now. You know what I'm saying? That's a lot. So, I was already tossed when we went out, and then I think we got the Moscow meals

while we went out. So, that's a lot for me, you know, to be drinking that much. And then you come out with a double shot, and I was like, oh, dude, you're just gonna put me over. Now, I tell you what. You felt okay, though. Now I tell you what? You felt okay though.

I'll tell you what. Cause I took care of you dude. Yes dude. I'm not gonna like the charcoal probiotic, ashwagandha, fucking concoction that you've got is on right now is, and Katrina's like, you know, you better stop with that shit because you keep drinking lately.

I haven't seen you drink this much in our life. Do charcoas like you've been together. It lets you drink like you're 20. I I woke up. That's not good. Yeah, I woke up and I tired, but no head. Yes, that's exactly I woke up And I was just tired. I was tired. I could have laid in bed probably for the To the good part of the late morning, but I did not and after I ate and had some water I actually felt great. We watched we walked the whole city shopped all days You did the organify probiotics, right? Yeah, yeah, that's a thing man You do the the probiotic so that here's the protocol the protocols you go one or two capsules of activated charcoal

As you start drinking and then if you keep drinking throughout the night You'll throw in one or two you know throughout the night in between so if you have like a few drinks take another one or whatever But then at the end of the night in between. So if you have like a few drinks, take another one or whatever. But then at the end of the night, before you go to bed, take your probiotics so you can balance out your microbiome and prevent yourself. Because part of the, I think a big part of the reason why drinking makes you feel so shitty

is it fucks up your stomach. Yeah. You know what I mean? Well for me, I know that's what it is. Like I've never, like I'll, remember when I told you when you introduced me to a Moscow Amulet, that's the only thing that's even got me two drinks since then because it's what it is. Like I've never, like, I remember when I told you, when you introduced me to a Moscow Mule, that's the only thing that's even got me two drinks

since then because it's like, the ginger. Yeah, the ginger at least makes my stomach feel okay. Otherwise, if I just sit there and drink beers, oh, dude, my stomach just feels tore up after a couple, man, I don't feel good at all, but ever since you introduced the charcoal and the probiotic recipe, dude, I'm like,

dude, this weekend I was just trying to reset and calm and get some sleep and catch up. And so I was making myself some ginger tea and just taking some of the turmeric that our granite file has and I just opened up the capsules and poly. And I don't know if that's a thing or not, but it totally helped lower my inflammation, everything.

Yeah, so turmeric, the good thing about the organifai one is they put a little biopirin in it, which is black pepper extract, which helps your body utilize it, assimilate it, and the other thing that you might want to try is add a fat to it, because it's curcumin's fat soluble, so it'll help your body absorb it better. That's a good, but yeah, ginger and turmeric are

really good. Yeah, I do that with some lemon. Oh, yeah, that's a good comment. Oh, it's such a good anti-inflammatory. I'm telling you and turmeric are really good. Yeah, do that. And with some lemon. Oh, yeah, it's a good comment. Oh, it's such a good anti-inflammatory. I'm telling you right now, it's a game changer from, I'm doing four to eight capsules of the turmeric every single day, and I feel just great increases in mobility and energy.

Inflammation fucks up your mind. People don't realize how runaway inflammation, because I can get that runaway inflammation, because I can get that runaway inflammation, because I always have got issues. Exactly. It's crazy. Yeah, you can't think straight at whatever. I had that the next day, I was getting on the plane,

and I was just, man, I was just in a different place, you know, just trying to think. Like a zombie, like getting on the plane, I remember, I was like trying to figure out where we're going. It was brutal. It left me in Justin alone with, yeah, dude, speaking of Seattle, so I need to make a correction. We're like trying to figure out where we're going. It was brutal. It left me ingesting alone with it. Yeah. Dude, speaking of Seattle, so I need to make a correction.

In a previous episode, I said that the Seattle head tax that they were trying to implement on Amazon, the reason why Amazon stopped building, which by the way, we saw the prank. We had a discussion with somebody about it. Yes, and I looked it up. So we saw the prank. What's your mic?

Hasn't it called you out on it? No, no, no. I'm sorry, I forgot your name, dude. He's like, if 40-year-old dude, fucking great guy, he's the guy that said, and he, he remember he asked the question, he said he's a recovering fat ass. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, I love that. That does so good. He forgot your name, brother, but fucking loved you. He had a great conversation with that guy. But anyway, he corrected me. So I said it was something like $47 ahead. No, they were proposing $275 head tax.

Who? On employees. $275. What does that look like? Why calculate that out? Dude, that's tens of millions of dollars. It's insane. How much that will cost. But check this out. So I did some more research. The second highest head tax in the country is 50. So Seattle by far is is fucking people more than than other cities are. And the person spearheading this by the way, can't remember her name, it's a lady, she's in the Seattle government. She's a new socialist, that's actually what she calls herself. Can't believe we elect people that say that,

whatever, Seattle, what the fuck are you thinking? But anyway, and she was saying, quote, I wish we should be able to charge three times as much, that we should do. But anyway, they should obviously people who don't understand economics. Oh my God. Because they have more money. Is that why? That's so logical. It's so, they're so insane. So check out here, here's some statistics for you. Seattle over the last five years has increased their budget by 32% already. So over, over 32% more money coming in, but they, of they need more because this is what happens when you give money to government.

Here's the thing with government that really that people need to understand. They are the most. It is the most inefficient way to do anything ever because the people doing whatever don't pair don't don't bear the cost of fucking up. So there isn't that feedback with the market. They're working with other people's money, and there's always cronism involved. There's always people getting money to, like for example, if they're gonna build a new freeway,

it'll cost 10 times as much than if you do a private company through a market system because there's probably somebody who voted for them or whatever is gonna help them out. So they're gonna give them a shit ton of money to do a job. It's just extremely inefficient. So they're going to give them a shit ton of money to do a job that it's extremely inefficient. So here's an example. There's a charity in Seattle that helps the homeless people.

And one of the reasons why they said they're raising this or creating this head tax is to create shelters for homeless people. So there is a charity in Seattle that does this called Mary's Place and they spend about eight million dollars a year to Have 700 shelter beds for homeless people Seattle government is raising 50 million dollars and out of those 50 million dollars. They're gonna provide about 300 Beds so do the math eight Eight? Yes. No. These are real numbers. It does add up when you realize how massively inefficient and wasteful government is.

No, I know. It's like way too much money. $50 million for roughly 300 or so beds versus Mary's place, which is a charity, $8 million for 700 shelter beds, just to show you the difference. Here's another example. Here's another example. A shelter beds, they got to let me know. Handcrafted Chattam and Bulls. No, fucking, do you think that money,

the fuck are they doing over there? Do you think that money goes to sleep number? You know, fucking a thousand. You think that money goes, you know, completely goes to help homeless people? No, there's a lot of people getting their cut and it's just inefficient. A charity has to figure out how to spend their money

Right because if they don't charity goes out of business right government just fucking here's what happens Here's what happens let's say they raised $50 million. Let's say they passed this head tax and Amazon bites the bullet and psych Fuck it. We'll stay here and we'll pay you guys and then let's say the you know that they run their program They're like we only have 300 beds. There's way more homeless people They ask for more money now if a charity does it and they fuck up that they run their program, they're like, oh, we only have 300 beds. There's way more homeless people. They ask for more money. Now, if a charity does it and they fuck up, they tend to not get money

because people look and say, you guys suck, you're not doing a good job. This is the big difference. Here's another good example. I looked this up alongside this just to illustrate how inefficient government is. Remember the Obamacare Affordable Care Act website that crashed like a billion times and still sucks at.

How much was it like 300 million or something? So far it's cost estimated between two to five billion dollars. The hot dude that hurts my soul. Website for a website to administer, you know, to do the healthcare, you know, dealing with whatever. So far it's cost because it's a lot. You know, like, give him that money. Bro, how what do you think? We live in Silicon Valley. I bet you I

could get a few engineers together to create a national website to do something like this. For yeah, $100 million. No, probably last 15 million, 10 million. Yeah. Can you believe that shit? One million. I've never met anybody who builds a website. You can do for like 50 grand. I swear never met anybody who builds a website for more than nothing. You can do it for like, 50 grand, dude. I swear to God. Can you believe that shit? That's how inefficient and ridiculous and insane.

That's a shit that makes me really angry, dude. That's one of the main reasons why you don't give them your, you're like, this is why you don't want your government to do shit for you. If it's something that's important, then you'll pay for it yourself, then people will pay for it. If it's not important, people pay for it. Let us determine that.

That's it. That's the bottom line. You know, charities do a pretty damn good job when there's not a lot of red tape and freaking barriers to helping people. I've told you about all the laws and cities that prevent regular people like us from feeding homeless people.

Like if us, if we wanted to, let's say we got a deal with Pizza Hut and they remind pump fans, we're like, hey, we want to help the homeless people. And they said, no problem. We'll donate you 500 pizzas. And we went out and we just started, you know, putting this together. We would get ticketed and we'd have to throw the pizza away. Yeah. Because there's laws against that. Right. It's, it's, it's absolutely insane. Stupidity. Along those lines, I'm going to read you guys some statistics for, uh, you guys, have you guys, did you guys watch the Royal Red Wedding?

I didn't watch it. No, I didn't. You had to be a boycott that shit. Or clock the morning or so much, that didn't it. Stupid, it's so dumb. So the wedding, so the wedding, So the wedding, It's the story.

33 million dollars, $8 million on security, $50,000 for the cake, $90,000 for the trumpets, and $300,000. This is all paid by taxpayers, right? Covered mostly by taxpayers. Ouch.

That's a fucking wet. What a waste of fucking steep did. So I did an Instagram story on this, right? And I posted that because I think it's insane. And there's a couple English people who took offense to it, right? And they messaged me. Of course.

And they're like, the royal family brings in more money than it cost taxpayers and blah, blah, blah. And I said, you're missing the point, dude. You don't have a choice. They're taking your money by force. And then paying for a wedding. You know what this illustrates? I want to make a minute pay for my wedding.

What the hell? You know what this illustrates? To me is that there's like this weird innate desire that humans have to be ruled over or to worship people. You know, we do all, this is what I, this is the one problem that I have with your argument with free market is that, and this is the argument I believe,

the only argument against it in my opinion is that it won't work because people want to be led. People want to be told what to do. People want to be, they don't want to think for themselves, a big majority. Now those that are listening right now and say they disagree, well yeah, there's exceptions to the rule,

but a large majority of the population are okay with being lemmings. They're okay, which is fun. That is what's... It's a lot bigger than we would think. Yeah. I still think people want that, but I think that it'll be voluntary and not forced. Like, okay, here's a deal.

Here's the bottom line. Is it really forced though, if they're like again, that you the people that defended this? Oh, that's called cognitive dissonance is what it is. But maybe they do, look, here's a deal. Maybe you wanna pay for a royal wedding, in which case, go pay, go donate maybe they do look here's a deal. Maybe you want to pay for a royal wedding in which case go pay Go donate, you know, that's there's not a there's nothing wrong look here's a deal people who say they love paying taxes and that they want to and they need to and it's

No, people want to see any of them paying over taxes. I don't think it's that. I think people don't want to think about any of it I don't want to say oh there's a royal wedding. I want to go give to it no more than they want to eat just not have to deal with it It's just that if some of my money goes there, some of my money goes there and I have roads to drive on, I have a cool... Everything's taken care of. Yeah, they don't want to think about it, even if it's inefficient, even if it's robbing them in a sense, they're okay with it. I think we're okay with things that we're born into and that we don't take for granted.

So, let me give you an example. Let's say we were born into a society where shoes and clothes were always provided to us by the government. Okay, let's say somebody a long time ago, let's say a hundred years ago, the government said, hey, clothing is essential. It's a human right to be able to have clothing to protect yourself from the elements. And I could make that argument, right?

I can make that argument and make it sound good, although that's not what a right is because it requires someone else's labor and someone else's product, which you don't have a right to someone else's stuff. But I could make that argument and people maybe would buy into it. And let's say you were born into a society

where you never had to buy shoes or clothes, they were always provided to you and you had them all the time. Now if I said to somebody, hey, it's way, this is super inefficient, it's costing a lot of money, your clothes suck because we know what clothes would look like and feel like if the government provided them. They suck, they're expensive, they don't work, less people have clothes than if we had a free market system. People would argue it. And they'd say, no, we need, if we don't have government doing have clothes than if we had a free market system. People would argue it and they'd say, no,

we need, if we don't have government doing it for us, then we would have no clothes. That would be survive. How would we survive? And that's the problem. Look at food. Food is a, food is essential for life. We need to have food to survive.

The argument- The argument regulated though. Well, it's regulated, but it's still way more free than the government providing all the food. You see what I'm saying? Same thing with clothes. Today in wealthy societies, like we have more clothes than we know what to do with, we throw more clothes away.

You could actually probably buy a t-shirt somewhere for under $5. I bet you could find a t-shirt somewhere for 99 cents because markets are extremely efficient. It's how you allocate resources better than anything that we've ever discovered in human history. So the argument that things wouldn't happen

because government didn't do them, mainly comes from the fact that government's always done certain things. So we take a good look. I don't even know if the argument is that it wouldn't happen. It's more that it may be less efficient because of not enough people would step up to what we need to do.

There would still be the survival of the fittest. There would still be the people that appreciate the free market and say, you know what, I don't need government to tell me where my money goes. I'm fucking sufficient enough to figure out how to provide for me and my family and those people would survive. And then you would still have a large population, part of the population that would be fucking aimlessly walking around because they literally don't get it and they really don't want to put the effort in because they're fucking lazy.

And a lot of people say that, but you know what's interesting is that the science and statistics actually are counter that. So people who donate the most and do the most for other people tend to be the ones that are the free market supporters and who make, so when people make a lot of money, they give a lot more. When government doesn't take a make a lot of money, they give a lot more. When government doesn't take a lot of it, people tend to give a lot more. Charities do a lot. When government steps something and does more, charities tend to, it's competition, really.

You're competing. If I'm paying 50% of my paycheck to taxes, I'm going to give less to charities and charities start to tend to disappear. Charities do a better job, typically, because they're closer to the people that they're serving and there's that feedback, right? If a charity does a bad job, they get... Well, what's interesting now is that we are so connected that I could see a free market society actually working

because of how connected we are, right? In the past, though, I don't know. I would argue that it may be really challenging to do that because there would be some point. Do you know how many... I think we're out, you know, I would argue that it may be really challenging to do that because there would be. So, I think we're out, you know, as far as the leader is concerned, you know, how like government provides this sort of safety net, this blanket, a lot of people like tend to lean on, whereas, you know, if it were more free market, there's going to be leaders that exist,

you know, certain companies or certain directions, they're're gonna pull people in based off of their message. I think so. I think so. And I, you know, and I, here, look, in Seattle, for example, there are people right now who are trying hard, they're going through government, they're lobbying government, they have to go through all these, all these challenges to try and get these things approved to build dorm room style housing for homeless people, private individuals. People who are like, I will fund it, I will pay for it. And the city's saying, no, we're not gonna let you do that. There's people who are trying to do that right now.

There was that one guy that we saw who built a bunch of self-molecule homes. Yeah. For homeless people, and the city collected them all and demolished them. Yeah, so ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? So it's crazy.

First of all, I mean, again, an entity tries to keep itself around through its own survival and government is like that. And if you work for the government and you're in this, in the homeless organization or whatever part of your local government, you're gonna try and make sure that your job is needed and you don't want anybody doing a better job than you.

It's just the bottom line, it's the nature of the beast. But it's extremely inefficient, it just doesn't fucking work well. And Seattle's making a great example of how idiotic it can absolutely be. I mean, look at California. I'm looking at the cost of housing in California is insane, especially in certain areas like the Bay Area.

It's just so expensive. Part of it's the demand. A lot of people make a lot of money here, and a lot of people come and try and live here, because there's a lot of work. But another big part of it is, do you know how hard it is to develop housing here? Because of the regulations and laws.

They keep the supply low, and it ramps up the cost of making these houses, and I'm sure this people making money on the other end of this fucked up situation. Was it you that I was, who was talking about how they're going to freeze the building in the Bay Area? Not freeze it, but the regulations are so are gonna be pretty fucking nasty till about 2025.

So it's an artificial shortage of housing, you know? And it's just, anyway, just stuff like that pisses me off. And here's the other thing, the other end of it. There's a moral issue here with taxes. Like, again, if I go up to someone and I ask them to give me money for something, and they give it to me, there's nothing wrong with that. It's all voluntary exchange.

They give me their money, they believe in what they're doing, whatever, and they trust me. But if I go up to someone and say, give me your money and they say, no, it doesn't matter what the reason is for me to want that money. I could say, hey, I want your money so I can go help homeless people. Or I want your money so I could up to someone and say, give me your money and they say, no, it doesn't matter what the reason is for me to want that money. I could say, hey, I want your money so I can go help homeless people. Or I want your money so I could go to war. Or I want your money so I can fix up this road.

If that person says no, and then I tell them, well, you either give me your money, or I'm going to throw you in a cage. I'm going to point a gun at you, and you better get. Now I'm stealing from them. And this is what, this is my problem with taxes, and especially when it pays for shit like a fucking wedding. You know what I'm saying? So if the royal family's really making more money

than they're spending in tax money, which I don't believe, because those statistics come from the UK government themselves, but let's say that's the case. Fine, get no more money from taxes and they should be able to fucking earn their own money. And let's see what happens. I bet you they go, I bet you what they would end up doing.

They turn into, they try and make money like celebrities do is what they would end up doing. And would people pay them? Maybe, but it wouldn't be like this. This is crazy. Think about all, think about that. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic super foods to help give your health a performance the added edge. Try Organify, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com.

That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from JGFITME. My trainer says that if I'm not intending on powerlifting, it doesn't matter that my squat is not asked to grass. How can I convince him it should be at least what we're aiming for? I've heard people make that argument before. Like there's no need to squat so low

unless your goal is to compete in a competition that requires you to. I get the sentiment, I get why they would say that. Or if you ever plan on sitting down. This is never again. Maybe that. No, here's the question that I would pose back to your trainer. If I gain the mobility and stability and control

to squat all the way down, and I do start to squat all the way down, will I develop more muscle and more strength as a result? And the answer, if they're a smart trainer and they know what they're talking about, is yes. The answer is yes. If you train with the greater, and studies have been done on this, if you train with the greater range of motion,

and I have to preface this, you have to have good mechanics, good control and stability. So going all the way down, when your stability and your balance and your strength only going all the way down, when your stability and your balance and your strength only allows you to go down with good form to parallel, going down all the way then is a bad thing. Now you're gonna hurt yourself.

But if you can do so with good control and good stability, then do so. And if you can't, the goal should be to be able to increase your range of motion. That should be your goal. Listen, at the end of the day too, you don't necessarily need your trainer to do this with you. I mean, this is why we created maps prime and prime pro

was so that people could use this as a tool that they can complement your trainer. Your trainer can still take you through your routine. You don't need your trainer to tell you, hey, take your astagrass, like you can squat down astagrass when you, hey, take your ass to grass. Like you can squat down, ask to grass when you start to improve upon your mobility. And so really, and that most of that work is done at home. You don't need to do it.

You don't need to go to the gym to do that. You don't need a trainer to take you through that. You've got a video tutorial on the Prime and Prime Pro that you can watch, and then you can do those movements. And instead of getting in a debate with a trainer that probably feels watch and then you can do those movements. And you know, instead of getting in a debate with a trainer that, you know, probably feels insecure about teaching you how to go astagrass just because they can't because I was that trainer.

I mean, I'll tell you, I'll be the first to admit that, you know, I wasn't teaching clients to drop down astagrass. We were taught the, we were taught not to. Yeah, we were taught to stop at 90 degrees. And the reason why certifications teach trainers to teach their clients to stop at 90 degrees. And the reason why certifications teach trainers to teach their clients to stop at 90 degrees is for safety reasons. Because 90% of the population that is above the age of 30

is gonna have all kinds of dysfunction in their squat when they drop down below 90 degrees. That's because most people don't sit any lower than a toilet seat or a chair or a car. So they don't even squat down to do it. They just flop, you know, flop down. Do you want to limit your abilities? Like, it's just interesting to me that people are,

they still feel that way as far as, you know, like going lower in your squat and, you know, that being a detriment, like, literally, your body is able to do a lot of ranges of motion that, you know, it's just that you're not expressing it ever. And so there has to be emphasis on learning that and slowly getting to the point of controlling your body to get to that level.

But Adam makes a good point. It's not something you necessarily have to do with a trainer at the gym. It's a simple as creating that ritual and what that looks like. You have to know specifically how to do that incrementally, but it's going to take a lot of patterning, a lot of time, and it's not a sexy thing to work on. Definitely, something awesome you can work at home. That way, later on, I mean, who doesn't want the ability to get lower and pick things up and, you know, like when you lose that kind of mobility and you lose that kind of function,

you lose it. It's gone. Yeah, think about it this way. So the types of adaptation, the way your body improves on exercise based on exercise is quite specific. It's the, what do they call it, the rule of specificity, right? So if I squat down to 90 degrees only, most, not all, but most of the benefits that I'll get, most of the strength that I'll get, most of the mobility, most of the all that whatever is, is limited to the range of motion that I train with them.

So, and I don't need to argue that. I think most trainers know that and understand that. So if I always squat to parallel, I'll get really good at squatting to parallel. And if I move outside of parallel, there's not a whole lot of carryover. There's a little bit of carryover, but not a whole lot. So that means that when I go below parallel,

shit starts to break down. This is why you can take someone who can squat 400 pounds down to parallel and they won't be able to squat all the way down with 300 pounds, like a 100-up pound difference. They won't be able to squat all the way down. In fact, they might not even be able to do so with 250, depending on the individual.

And as they get older, it gets worse. Now, keep this in mind. Here's another phrase that we've all heard before, right? If you don't use it, you lose it. What that means is what you don't train, your body gets rid of. It gets rid of range of emotion that it doesn't think are necessary

or doesn't think are valuable because it's a waste of resources. It's a waste of resources for your body to maintain strength and stability in movement and ranges of motion that you never use. Your body's always trying to be efficient because your body is the result of thousands of years of evolution where food was scarce and it didn't make sense to waste calories maintaining things that you never use.

Same thing with your brain. Like your brain prunes itself to become more efficient based on how you use your brain and the types of things you think about. So my point is this, if you only train to 90 degrees, outside of 90 degrees, not only will not get the benefit of training, not get the benefit of training, but it also may get worse over time. So now as you get older and you're only squatting to parallel, you're getting worse and worse function

outside of that range of motion that you always train. And so you actually start to get, like as you age, you start to lose mobility. And you start to lose it in the areas that you might need at the most. So not a smart idea. And if you can't train in those range of motion, ranges of motion, if your mobility doesn't allow you to,

and if you don't have good control, that's okay. But the goal should be to be able to. Now, I want to get the back of the trainer here just in case that is a smart trainer is there, there is the possibility that, you know, your trainer is stopping you at 90 degrees because he or she sees the breakdown in your form when you go beyond that. And so that doesn't, that, that means you probably have a pretty good trainer too. That's keeping it like it would be worse if he was allowing you to go ask the grass. Forcing you.

Right. Or just allowing you. If you're sitting there saying like, Hey, I listen to Mind Plum, and they encourage full range of motion, ask the grass to have a squatting, and you're having this conversation with him. And he's saying, no, when you go below 90, your form breaks down. And so he's keeping you at 90 degrees. I think that's a better, that's a better, that's a better choice that he's doing that or she's doing that than allowing you to dictate you going all the way down when they're

looking at your mechanics and they see that it's off. Now that being said, if you're coming to him and him or her and saying, should we not work on that range of motion or shouldn't I work towards that? Yes, if you're coming to him and him or her and saying, should we not work on that range of motion or should I work towards that? Yes, you're right. You should work towards that. That should be implemented into your programming, whether he or she is taking you through that or prescribing movements for you to do on it. Now, I look at it this way. Obviously, you have enough money to afford a personal trainer.

Not a lot of people have that luxury. So, I know you're spending somewhere between $50 to $150 an hour just to see them. I mean, instead of buying 20, 30, 50 sessions, by one last session with them and invest in prime or prime pro or the bundle, and now you have all the tools that you need to get yourself to squat down as low as possible. And it doesn't even require your trainer. And or you then can take that to them and show them like, hey, can we implement these into my routine?

And or you, this becomes your, which would be ideal in my opinion. If you have a five o'clock appointment with your trainer, you get to the gym at 430 and you put in the necessary work to continue to work on your mobility so that when you go into your session with your trainer Your body is primed hence the word prime and prime pros is where it's from it's primed and ready to squat with your trainer Yeah, absolutely and you know, it's funny. I was watching a video on Instagram of I don't remember the guy's name It was a pro bodybuilder doing barbell squats and it's all it's almost always painful to watch you ever watch pro bodybuilders do barbell squats. And it's almost always painful to watch. You ever watch pro bodybuilders do barbell squats?

Terrible mechanics is they never, now they've got lots of muscle, lots of strong muscles that don't work well in unison for some of these movements because they never train them. And so you watch these squats and I'm looking at them and they're squatting with four plates, which is a lot of weight, but not necessarily for a 270 pound shredded, you know,

righted out bodybuilder and you're watching the forum. I'm like, oh my God, that looks horrible. You can train muscles and develop muscles and have terrible, you know, terrible control over movement. You wanna have both, but besides all that, let's say your goal is just to look better. You just wanna look better. Again, does a fuller range

of motion with good control contribute to better, faster results than a shorter range of motion? Yes, it does. And so even if your goal is aesthetic, you should train yourself to be able to get larger, longer ranges of motion with control. It will only benefit you, regardless of what your goals are. Next question is from Snack Attack Blog. Are you just him? Yeah, I like snacks. I am very active and eat keto and paleo with a bit of dairy and ate myself into an egg intolerance about six months ago by eating them too frequently. After

six months off, I just tried eggs again and it wasn't pretty. So I'm assuming I just can't have them anymore. What is the likelihood that I'll have a similar reaction again to another food that I eat frequently like coconut oil or ghee or was I just predisposed to an egg allergy? You know, it's so it's funny, this question was up on our page, and there's some guy that was answering everybody's questions, you guys see this guy? Yeah.

Yeah, who is? He was trying to answer all the questions. You didn't see that Justin? He went through and I was like, I was actually was gonna DM him and be like, hey man, thanks. Bro, making our job easier. He had a few of them that were a little off though.

So I was like, okay, you can't be coming in like you're a mind pump person and answering questions if you're not legitimately doing the work and in learning, bro. So he was saying he tried to say that eating a food frequently doesn't create an intolerance, which is partially correct. It's not that you're eating the food a lot

that's causing the intolerance. It's that you're an inflamed situation and you're overconsuming. So it could potentially could be anything, right? It's right, it can be. So what it's that you're in inflamed situation and you're over consuming so it potentially could be anything. Right. It's right. It can be. So what happens is when you have an inflamed gut and it can be mild inflammation so it

could take a long time or it could be a really bad inflammation in which case you could develop a food intolerance very quickly, when you have this intolerance, food, particles, proteins, get through the gut where they're not supposed to. Because the gut is this semi-permeable membrane between that separates you from the outside world. Now, we don't think of it that way because it's inside our body, but it's literally a tube, if you think about a tube that connects your mouth to your butthole that goes through your body, that is not inside your body.

In order to get inside your body, you have to travel through the membrane and get absorbed within the body. So it's like, it's like your skin, like your skin separates you from the outside world to a certain extent, so does your gut. And the gut is very intelligent, and it decides when to allow things in and when not to allow things in

and what is toxic and what isn't toxic and all that stuff. What happens when it's a flame though, just like if you had inflamed skin, the cells get separated and things get through when they're not supposed to. And when that happens, the body starts to identify these things as invaders. And when your body thinks something is invading it,

it mounts an immune response. And then when it amounts an immune response, the immune system has a memory. This is why you, this is why when you get chicken pox, once you don't get it again typically, because your immune system remembers, it's actually quite brilliant, right? It's an incredible feat of evolution or design, whichever camp you're in, but the, the immune system remembers so that you get the chicken pox virus again, immune system sees it right away, kills it, and you don't get infected. So this is what it's doing to the foods that you eat when you're inflamed and what you eat the most of tends to create the strongest immune response.

So you're eating lots of eggs, you're inflamed. Now your immune system thinks egg protein is a foreign invader. So now when you eat it, you get diarrhea or constipation or skin issues or you just feel shitty because an immune response creates a systemic inflammation which then just doesn't feel good and it can result in a lot of different types of symptoms. So it's really the combination of the two. That's the problem. Now there are foods that you tend to create intolerances to a little easier. Egg tends to be one of them. Egg whites in particular contain antibodies.

They're actually there to protect the yolk. And when you cook them, you destroy a lot of them, but some of them are still in there. And so it's just for whatever reason eggs and dairy and gluten and nuts tend to be more Immunologic or whatever where your body has a higher likelihood of recognizing those or thinking that those are are foreign invaders But can you get another food intolerance? Absolutely if you if you don't solve this this inflammation that you have and you eat a lot of you know I had a client once who we did, you know, they came to me, so years ago,

it was like maybe, I don't know, seven years ago. And we couldn't figure out the cause of her, she had, what's the psoriasis and what's the other skin one? Exima. Exima, she had some exima on her elbows and the creases of her elbows and stuff. And we couldn't really figure it out. We cut out all these foods and it got a little better, but it didn't go completely away.

We did some testing where they test for IgG antibodies and she did several of them. We realized we found out that she had an intolerance to bananas. It sounded like such a food that nobody should have a problem with know, nobody should have a problem with, but she eats banana, she's eating banana almost every single day. And so she just developed an intolerance to bananas. Once we removed them, the eczema went away. And so you can do that with almost any food that you eat a lot in the context of a lot of inflammation. This is why I think like dairy intolerances

in the fitness community are fucking high. I don't know anybody, I know very few people who are, you think this is all the way protein. Yeah, dude. I don't know very many, like we've, I don't know, are we freaking have put it on a pedestal for so long, you know. And just consume the shit ton of it.

And on top of it, and on top of it, consuming it, post workout when you're already more inflamed. And then it's pre-digested, so you absorb it faster, which makes it easier to go through and, you know, your body and get recognized as a, because I don't, I mean, honestly, think of all the people you know in their mid-30s who've been training for a long time,

that like our cool would dairy. I can have a lot. No, not a whole lot. Not a whole lot. Maybe even you do just a little bit. No way would dairy. I can have a lot. Not a whole lot. A whole lot. Maybe even you do. No, man. I'm good with dairy, I'm just saying. We're friends.

I mean, have you guys identified? You have a love hate relationship. No, that's all love. Well, dude, you don't even eat gluten anymore. No, no, I don't. And that was the one that I was able to kind of like identify, you know, after doing this elimination process. And I think anybody should go through that process

just to learn more about their own body and how they respond. If it is things you've been eating constantly and I joke about the dairy thing, but I definitely eliminated it for a while, reintroduced it and was expecting, yeah, that I was gonna have some fucked up reaction be depressed, but yeah, because I do eat it a lot, you know,

but you got that Northern European genes. You guys tend to do better. Somehow I do okay with it, still, but yeah, gluten was a problem, and so that's just one of those, it just makes me feel better, but I'm careful with it too, because I know Dr. Russo talks a lot about like,

you know, the psychological aspects of it, like, you know, I don't I'm careful with it too, because I know Dr. Rusiel talks a lot about like the psychological aspects of it. Like, I don't wanna demonize it too much to where I can't ever reintroduce it and not be flexible ever again. Knowing that, oh, I'm consuming it, just the thought process that goes on with that identifies it as this is gonna be a problem. Maybe I'm actually producing that problem.

I feel like I can handle a certain amount of it and then I go over like because of my ice cream abuse for so long. Like I could not if I were to say. Ice cream abuse. Yeah. Like AA meeting well, let's be honest. I mean ice cream comes on later. If I bitch, I was stupid fucking Rocky Road. I mean, I was eating a pint of fucking dinner jerry's for at least two or three years there. And before that, I just picture you sitting on the couch slapping, slapping the bones,

watching my favorite Netflix show or whatever, dude, just before Netflix. But yeah, you know, I definitely, so now I can no longer eat anywhere near that amount or I pay for it. And trust me, I've definitely tested it a few times in birthday parties. Like, oh, that kick and ice cream sounds so good. But what I've noticed, I can do. I can totally have cheese.

I can have a glass of milk. I can do dairy in small amounts. I can't afford a 1,500 calorie bomb of dairy in me or it tears me up. So as long as I have, do it in moderation, it's totally fine. I do notice I have some sort of a reaction when I go overboard.

So Justin, what do you notice now when you eat gluten is it right away? It is almost like immediate. It's crazy. Yeah, it's frustrating. Cause I mean, I still have moments where I wanna live and just do things like I would do with, like so for instance, my kids,

I took them to go see Infinity Wars. And before that, they actually have food within the movie theater, but I was like, gross, terrible food there or whatever. If I'm gonna eat terrible food, I might as well go next door, which is this pizza place. And I was like, well, do they have any gluten free? Because I was like, fuck it.

They some have like this dough now that doesn't have gluten. And so I looked, they didn't have it. And I was like, you know, whatever, I'm something to be okay. Like, I'm just gonna like mentally be in a space where I'm like, I'll just eat it. And like have good time with them goes. And so I ate it. And almost within like five minutes or whatever,

I just like, like my stomach was turning over, like acid was already coming up, and it was just like, I hadn't had those same feelings for like months. Cause you got rid of it. Yeah, so and it was just frustrating, but at the same time was very good to know, you know, like that,

I still have that kind of a reaction. And now the association is so much like pinpointed that like when I, when things used to happen like that I still have that kind of a reaction and now the association is so much like pin pointed that Like when I when things used to happen like that I speak. Oh, sure. I need some thumbs You know nice would like not even think how crazy is that you can live for so long Because I did the same thing with you know some of my issues like you can live so long and just think like Oh, this is just how I am and And not realize that there's one specific thing you're doing that's causing the problem. Like, not even realizing, like my poor girlfriend, right?

She, very healthy, we leave it very healthy lifestyle. But every once in a while, she would get like acne, right? And she would get like cystic acne parts of her face and what hurt and she'd get so frustrated and so angry. And we're trying to figure out what it was. Like she eats a healthy diet. It's always the shit you don't want to let go. That's true.

I know, it's never true. That's why you know, people that listen, they're like, oh, I'm fine. It's like, yeah, it's because you're fucking mindlessly eating certain things that you don't want to let go. And there's, I think that there's things that you subconsciously pretend like it can't be that.

It can't be that. Well, I like everything. Everything's my body. It so well, you think. Jessica is like, she worships chocolate. Like chocolate is like her favorite thing in the world. She'll say that, like she hasn't, she says it's a spiritual thing for her, she loves it. And I would, man, I can't, it's not like

just the way this cheese over there is. I remember telling her too, I remember specifically telling her at one point, like, you think maybe the chocolate is, no, no, no, I've been eating chocolate for years, it can't be the chocolate. I'm like, are you sure? No, I can't do.

Now, chocolate, it's a being, you know what I mean? It's a food, it can cause intolerances or whatever. So she did this and it was for Lent, because my kids, you know, we're like, oh, we're gonna do this that for Lent. So she's like, okay, I'll do it with you. I'm gonna give up, you know, something. And I think it might have been one of the kids who's like, what about chocolate? She thought about it and she's like, I length. So she's like, okay, I'll do it with you. I'm gonna give up something. And I think it might have been one of the kids.

It's like, what about chocolate? And she thought about it. And she's like, I don't know. She said, okay, I'll do that. So she gave up chocolate. And her skin totally cleared up. And we were talking about this. And I'm like, do you think maybe the chocolate was giving you

an acne? She's like, oh, please God, I hope not. Like, I hope that's it. And it started, she started to realize that it might be that. Well, guess what? 100% is the chocolate. She's tested it several times. now where she'll eat some chocolate. Boom, she'll break out, she's like, fuck,

so now she doesn't eat chocolate like she used to, but it's crazy how you'll have all these things and it's almost like you'll either will, either subconsciously or whatever, like you said, you just take thumbs every day. You don't even think twice about it. You just do it. Next question is. You just do it. Yeah. Next question is from Pass that Versace.

Yeah. And that's Adam. Yeah. Pass it over here. If you could reprogram the fitness health and wellness industry, what would that look like for each of you? Reprogram it. You know, make like change it.

Change the whole industry. Well, we're trying. And that was it. Aren't we trying to do that right change it, change the whole industry. Well, we're trying. Oh, yeah. We aren't we trying to do that right now. Here's the thing though, like if I were to reprogram it, you know, back 15 years ago, it would not, it would blow up in our face and we wouldn't have a business today, right? It's because of how fucked up it is that it allows us to move into the space and create it.

Thank you. No, it is. It really is. So I think you have to be careful when I, I be careful when I say like how would I reprogram this? I mean, I hope that we're and I don't think we're the only ones, but I do think that mine pump is an example of a major force that's trying to Move the industry in the right direction and you know, we spoke at a Mastermind group Vince Del Montes, not that long ago. And one of the things that we were talking about was,

you know, times are changing right now with how people make money in this space. And it used to be this old model of, you know, you, because you could post fake shit on Instagram and get all these followers and then you sell them supplements. And, you know, more and more people are calling bullshit on this. And so. And more and more people are calling bullshit on this. And so, and more and more people are realizing a lot of these,

insta-still celebrities are insecure and bullshitting. So, I think that we are moving in an era of being honest and sharing insecurities and things like that. And I think when you look at the most well-known people in the space, most of us have had or have some of the biggest insecurities. It's what drove us to look so good. And so I think that more people coming out and being honest about that and sharing that because there's a lot of these fitness celebrities that people idolize

and they think their lives are so perfect and if they really understood how dysfunctional most of them are and how fucked up they all are, that they may not want what they have. But right now we still kind of in that area where half the people are still following these people thinking that they have this amazing life that they want because they post the flashy cars and they show the cool trips and the

flying and they look badass on all their pictures so they think they carry themselves at 7% body fat year-round and but I think that's changing. No, I think I think you're right on the honesty front of us to reprogram it because it's not that I condemn people for wanting to go extreme. You know, like I don't, I was into sports. You know, I don't really like express that fact alone that that like sports to me is a fucking, like it's a proving ground. It's a challenge. It's will over adversity. It's like so many things to me and it's not fucking healthy to always be in that space.

No, not at all. It's another extreme. Yeah, but that's, this is the whole optimizing, adapting kind of sequence, right? So just being honest that I'm not being super healthy from my body right now, long term. I'm not selling it that way. Right. Or I'm looking a certain way right now

because I know it's super attractive. And people like that, I look like, like, like, cosmetically, you know, like, on another level than everybody else. Like, I look that way right now, and I know that, like, my health is probably deteriorating on the inside. I think that's an excellent point right there, Justin, is that I think there's nothing wrong

with being a bodybuilder. I think there's nothing wrong with competing. I think there's nothing wrong with being hardcore into sports and training that way, as long as if you're somebody who's out there and you're marketing yourself or you're selling programs or you're selling this, like who you are, what you, which is being transparent with it. It's like, listen, I can be a competitor and I don't have kids, I don't have a wife, I don't have other responsibilities in my life, so I can be a hundred percent selfish

and then about myself and the way I want to look, but not portraying it as I'm living this healthy lifestyle, because again, not only are we talking about health as far as nutrition, training, stress, but also the other part. How about relationships and not being completely narcissistic and having a social awareness along with a self-awareness? There's other parts of health. I think that that doesn't get addressed

when we look at these people that do these incredible feats performance-wise, like Justin's saying, and then also aesthetically, right? Like we see the bodybuilder side of the business. So, and then we can lump crossfit into that too. You know, you have these crossfit athletes that train at these extreme levels that are insane, that people are looking up to and aspiring to be like.

And it's like, well, if you only knew how out of whack a lot of these fucking people really are with all the other aspects of their life, you may not idolize them the same way. And I think there's nothing wrong again, with building a business and being a transparent with that. I think you could come out. I mean, I believe that I tried to do that.

I think that's what gained me a lot of traction when I was first competing was saying to people that, listen, I'm going to do this knowing damn well. You were very honest. Yeah, knowing damn well, it is not the answer or I'm not admitting or saying that this is a healthy way for people to live. I'm showing those that may be interested in this space or in sport, like this is the way to do it. This is the healthiest way that I can do it,

but knowing that it's not ideal. Here's the scary or non-comferting truth, the truth that nobody wants to understand. In free societies, markets are reflections of us. That's 100%. I'm gonna read a quote right now from one of my favorite economists of all time, Thomas Sowell, he was a student of Milton Friedman's,

and this quote, he's talking about politicians, but it applies to all markets, including the health, fitness fitness and wellness industry. He says, the fact that so many successful politicians are such shameless liars is not only a reflection on them. It is also a reflection on us. When the people want the impossible, only liars can satisfy. Now what do people want in fitness and health?

They want to be in shape yesterday. They want to be fit yesterday. They want it to be easy as fuck. They don't want to deal with the growth and the challenge and the change in behaviors. They don't want to deal with the responsibility that is that they are their lifestyle and their behaviors.

So the reason why they look the way they do and they feel the way they do, nobody wants to deal with that. We want to blame everybody. So part of what we do here at MindPump is we try to shine a light on the industry to apply social pressures on them so that they can claim some responsibility and change as well.

However, that will not work at all, at all, if the consumer doesn't demand it as well. And what we're literally trying to do, literally, this is 100% we're trying to do. We're trying to sell the consumer on why they need to put pressure on the industry. We're trying to explain to them, this is what you really want. Now make sure this is what you look for. If you're going to follow people, follow people who provide good information, if you're going to buy a product, make sure it comes from

Organizations that are responsible Organizations that actually care about things that should be cared about if you are going to work out make sure you Buy programs that are program well that train you properly. Don't promise false things because you're the one that drives this whole thing So when I look at the fitness industry and I'm disgusted by it like I am most of time, I realize that I'm part of the problem. I bought all that shit for decades. I bought all the products. I paid for the magazines.

I followed the people that, you know, that lied or whatever. So the reality is if I could reprogram the industry, I don't like to think that way because I'm not a king, I'm not gonna control that. They're a response to the market, dude. 100%. We are response. The market wants to quick fix the market, wants to be so bad to my point earlier today.

They're giving you, they are giving us, they want to be lemmings, dude. That's right, they're giving us exactly what we want. Now, what do we see now with the market? We're now seeing companies like Thrive Market, for example, who is donating some, you know, X amount of free memberships to low income families every time they get a membership. You know, we're working with companies like Mirr,

who are, you know, donating X amount of dollars to charities. Now, why do these companies start to do this and why is that part of their progress? They're success. There's a market's demand, you know. The market wants it now. Now, people are starting to say, hey, not only do you need to make good products, but you also need to make good products that take care, companies that take care of their employees and that are responsible in terms of the environment, in terms of your impact in the world. That's it. And that's just the reflection. And I think the

fitness industry is starting, like most industries industries is moving in that direction where you know You know before and after that's photoshopped you know might sell some shit today But five years from now it might not and might do the opposite someone might look at that and go Oh, that's fake. I'm not gonna buy that shit from I'm gonna gonna buy ship from this company because they're bullshitting me or whatever. So at the end of the day, we have so much more power. Like if everybody went to their Instagram right now and just stopped following all the fake fitness people,

you would see such a fast shift. Those same fitness people would trust me with half a million followers. They would change their marketing ploy very quickly. Once they lost a shitload of followers, next post you would see would be how real authentic No, whatever. Yeah exactly So it's true

It's super true. We're the ones driving and the and I still it's still like this the consumer demands fast They demand easy. They don't want to take responsibility and they don't want to make any real changes responsibility and they don't want to make any real changes, but it's starting to change and we hope to be a part of that change or at least report on that change, at least report on it with our megaphone. Next question is from CSG USA. Thoughts on divorce and best practices to assist someone in processing the entire experience and moving past it. Well, you guys know my theory on marriage. It should be a fucking three-year lease or whatever.

It should be a three-year lease. I'm like, five, ten-year, yeah. You think they should have to get remarried? Yes. And you know what I mean? It should not be like a crazy bat bat of a night. I don't want it to be a huge process. I just think that for all the tax benefits to say that you're still married and that you would have to submit a form in that requires both your

signatures very simple. And I'm open to three five or seven. I think it has to be seven or less because everybody knows the seven-year-age happens to everybody. So I think the three or five-year mark is important that every three to five years you have to just look at your partner and say, hey, you still fucking love me. I still fucking love you. You know, let's do. Do you need that new car smell? Or do you just want wax and detail?

Right. Let's do this for another skin of wax and detail. Three or five years and let's keep going on. And I think divorce rates would be different. I don't think we think they'd be lower or higher. I think they'd be through the room. I be, you know, because this wouldn't be a divorce. If you understand me, we off not to renew. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, it'd be through the roof. I'd be, you know, because this wouldn't be a divorce would be a divorce. I'd be understanding.

We off not to renew. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, there would be no divorce rate. More people would break up. It would be like this. But there would be less divorce rates. It would be like this. The only divorces you would see are the people that make

absolutely, which they're still, I'm sure there's a percentage of these marriages that happen within the first year or two. There's lots of, what do they call it? It's a shock. Anolments. And what's the other one called where you, you can break it off

in a year or two. So you would still see these, the drunken Vegas marriages, you know, divorce rates still there. But I think there's a lot of people that stay in things for a lot longer because it's just convenient because it's like, oh my God,

to file the pay for it, to do this, to do that. Like to split the, I hate you, but it's easier just to be with you. It's not a feel about Comcast. What's up? Fuck that. You do the process of going through assets, dividing all that stuff up, organizing the property if you have one, the kids, all that stuff.

And I think that's not even including the emotional stuff. And I think that should be a sliding scale. So every three years when you're lease or your renewal comes up, if your wife or your partner has made it that long, they should be entitled to a percentage of each other's income or whatever that. And that increases this time goes on.

So if you've been trucking with me for 20 years, I still believe. I still believe, exactly. I believe that you've built up enough equity to deserve half my shit. So I'm not against that part of it. I just think that people should have to, I think marriages should revisit those conversations.

I meet a lot of people that are still married and they just don't really love their partner. They just, it's now become a roommate. You know, so, and like, I've never wanted that, you know, like I want, no, it should be a constant conversation anyway. It's like, if you're, it almost, for some people, that might actually be great because it forces the conversation to happen, right?

Don't you think a lot of people, like, I mean, I think that I, I think Katrina and I have incredible communication and by no means does that mean we have a perfect relationship. We have lots of ups and downs and hard conversations, discussions and tears and all that shit, but we are not afraid to have that conversation, which I think is really important that people do and I think this would force

those conversations for people to have because hey, your renewal just came in the mail. That's it. Our mayor's renewing it. Oh, should I get to the gym. Yeah, you know. Right, I just think we have a lot more, a lot happier. So it's like automatic divorce, unless you're new. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, it's, so culturally for me and my family, divorce was like one of the worst things you could possibly do. That's how I grew up. I grew up thinking of it in that way. There was only one divorce in my family as My entire family as I was growing up It's a very For me that was part of why it was so difficult the other part of it was that you know I had two kids the guilt of

Doing that to my kids because I thought my god if I get divorced is gonna destroy my children This can be such a difficult thing and then I met a friend of mine, Marco, who was one of my clients. Marco had five kids. And him and his ex-wife would celebrate certain holidays together with the kids. They would all go to games together. He was constantly in contact with her.

And by no means that they like, necessarily like each other, they tolerated each other, they were okay with each other, but they really worked together as a family because they were still partners in raising their kids. And it blew me the fuck away. I used to talk about them, talk about this to them all the time. And I learned from them, I could see what he did. And he was such an involved father.

And the kids flourished. I would meet his kids and they were what he did. And he was such an involved father. And the kids flourished. I would meet his kids and they were just wonderful children. Everybody was so awesome. And then when they started dating other people, everybody was invited to these family. They actually took a trip, trip off this, right? They took a vacation where he brought his new wife, she brought her new husband and all the kids,

and they all went together. I really think that should be- I really really believe and I know some things is probably things is crazy, but I really think that should be a good goal of a divorce. 100% like I think if you've been divorced or you've gone through that, I think a very healthy goal to have is I hope that one day in the near future that I can take my partner and or if I don't have a partner, but I can be okay with being in a space with. Especially if you have kids. Right, because of that, that's because.

Especially because who gives a shit if you don't have kids? If you don't have a kid, what the fuck are you doing when I'm vacation? What are you doing? I was like, unless they're that fucking cool, you know what I'm saying? I think maybe Katrina and I have talked about this. Like if we were to go separate ways,

we'd probably be still really good friends, you know what I'm saying? Maybe we would still hang out with each other. Well, you know, when you, when you hate someone and you're angry or whatever, that's, that's, that feeling destroys you. It doesn't, it doesn't do anything to them. It heals you. It's, to, to put yourself in that situation. It does. And, and the cost of a divorce, the, the, some people will go through a divorce for five years of legal bullshit back and forth. And at the end of it, you know, the person was like, well, I won.

I got what I wanted. Oh, but how much did you spend on those lawyer fees and reality? You actually lost a shit ton of money and not to mention the stress and the bullshit. And this is just because people have a tough time like being mature. People can't, but especially when you have kids like, you know, when I got to work, look, if I didn't have my kids, would I ever really talk to my ex anymore? Probably not. I mean, I really don't care. It's not that big of a deal. I mean, I know we have a long history, but I probably wouldn't talk to her that much. But we do have children. We do. We're partners in this. Like, we're always going to be their parents.

And so the goal is like, we don't want to be together anymore. And we have significant others now, but the goal is to together anymore, and we have significant others now, but the goal is to be as good of parents as we possibly can be and work together. And so we still have our roles. Like for example, my daughter's communion, my ex planned it. She, that's what she does very well. She organized and planned it. And so my contribution was to pay more of the cost of it.

And I don't mind doing that. And we work together as a team to put this together. And I think that's such an important thing. And when you look at the statistics on how divorces affect children, and this is what scared me, this is why I was married a good seven years longer than I probably should have, is because you look at those statistics and you see like, oh wow,

children in divorced households, the rate of drug abuse, the rate of depression, the rate of whatever, it's so much worse. But then I realize it's not necessarily the divorce, that's the problem, it's how the parents handle it afterwards. Because if you get divorced and you handle it well, I can tell you right now I'm a better father, 100%. I know my kids have a better situation now than when I was married.

And I think that's very possible. It is. It requires you, the two of you to care about that. You have to put all your shit aside. Right. Here's a thing. There's about you. You guys know this.

There's been times during the divorce and after where I haven't had some, I've had some pretty bad things to say about my ex. And I'm sure she's had some bad things to say about me. Do you think I would ever? Yeah, you never would utter a negative word about her to my kids? Of course not. You know, that's common though.

You say no. That's parents do that shit. Married people do that all the time. Let alone divorce people. Now, when you're talking to your kid about their mom or their dad and how shitty they are, you're also talking to half that kid. Because a child, a child's, what children are predisposition to do or what they have a tendency to do

is they have a tendency to own things. So when something goes wrong, it's easier for them to say it's my fault than it is for them to say I don't know what happened. And so when you're talking to a kid and you're telling them how shitty their mom is or their dad is, I mean, they're gonna identify with some of that

because that's their parents. Partially them. And they're gonna feel terrible. And worst case scenario, excuse me, best case scenario, which is still bad, you may cause that, you may fuel a resentment in that child for that parent that may take decades or never.

Yeah, but let me tell you this, though, what ends up happening most of the time is the other way around. They end up having resentment for the parent That is it because one day they get fucking smart and they get I lived in a home like this, right? You know, I lived in a home that you know my mom Well, I mean we had the my stepfather who was thrown out of the house every six months and we hated him He was evil. He was bad. He was all that he was abusive. He's all these things and then she changed her mind And then he would be back in.

And now we loved him again. Oh, we love him. It's dad and oh shit. Now six months later, he's out. We hate him. And so we had this back and forth and she was always, she didn't have a lot of friends. She was trying to get you guys on her side or so. Right.

And she didn't have a lot of friends. And so much of her venting was to us kids. And so, and I see how it's affected all of us. You know, all of us have different relationships with our stepfather and her because of it. And I think because I'm the oldest and I kind of saw most of it and I grew through it, you know, there's a, there's resentment that I have towards her that I'm, I'm angry that she put us through all that and then on top of that pitted us against my stepfather, who by no means is excused from all his behaviors, but is also just a part of all

those behaviors because she has her own part. And yet you for many years made me feel like he was, it's his fault that we were going through this like like as an adult and a grown ass man who can reflect now, I'm like, no, fuck no, you put us through that. You know what I'm saying? You're just as much responsible for this as he is responsible for this. And the fact that you made me feel like it's all his fault growing up makes me even more angry at you. And so I think a lot of parents don't think about that.

No, they think that, or they don't think. I know people who are divorced, who literally when it's time to drop the kids off at the other parents house, they stop the car in front of the house, open the door, the kids walk out, and then they go in the house. Nobody says hi to each other, nobody, whatever. And they're still doing dual custody.

And it's like, what a strange position to be put in as a kid. Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're being dropped off into a whole other world, and those two people, you never see them communicate, or you never see them. Like, it almost, for children, that'll almost like, it makes them feel like they have to choose or pick, which, like, now I'll almost like it makes them feel like they have to choose or pick,

you know, which side. Now, I do know, I do understand that it takes two people. So you could be all about working together and all that stuff, and the other person could be a complete piece of shit and asshole. In which case I say this, just be honest with your kids and show empathy. But don't, and what I mean by honest is like, hey, why is his dad ever show up or why is he always missing his appointments from the thing? He said, well, it looks like he has some challenges

and he's not showing up and doesn't look like this maybe as priority. Just be honest, don't show anger or whatever. Let the child develop their own feelings around it because you throw your own stuff on top of it. They may either rebel against you or it may feel something completely different. But just be totally honest. I have a friend who's like that

where her husband, or her ex-husband, excuse me, he's super absent. You know, he's not a completely absent father. He shows up here and there, but he's one of those like shows up at birthdays and shows up every once a while type of thing and then sometimes he won't show up at all when he's supposed to do things. And she just badmoused the fuck out of him to the kids.

And I tell her, I'm like, you know, I know you have your feelings about him, they have to have their own feelings. So just be honest, just say something like, well, it looks like he didn't show up because he forgot. And then just leave it at that and let the kids decide for themselves, but don't sit there

and hammer them with how shitty he is of a person they are, or whatever. And also, you can still respect yourself. If you, if you're the primary caregiver and this other person is not a good person to be around your kids, I understand that. Or if they're okay with the kids and not around you, you need to respect yourself. I get all that stuff. But I really think if people just took ownership on this and just, I think we'd have less

problems that are associated with divorce because even with all as well as we work together, even with our families knowing each other and everybody being organized to create a good, a better situation for my kids and all that stuff, and all the wonderful people I'm surrounded with, it's still fucking hard. It's still extremely challenging. I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. So it's still gonna be tough, and I just feel like people make it so much harder for everybody by throwing in their ego and their anger and all that of the stuff. You agree.

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