Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 792: Of Mice & Mind Pump Men

Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this fun and deeply personal episode of Mind Revealing. Revealing, right. Look, we don't really talk about fitness in this episode, but we do talk about health. We start off by talking, I don't remember, how do we start the episode off?

Starting point is 00:00:27 I totally don't remember that. Yeah, about the Kim Jong Un meeting with Trump. We started with that. Justin's rodent bathroom adventure. Oh my God. Yes, find out why mice are extremely attracted to Justin, like the science. I don't like your theory.

Starting point is 00:00:43 There's, no, I don't know if it's a theory. I think it's the truth. I think it's proven. I think it's the science. I don't like your theory. I don't know if it's a theory. I think it's proven. I think it's the truth. Then we get into like being protective or jealous of your partner. Yeah, a lot of this about relationships, jealousy. Yeah, a lot of this about relationships, personal stuff.

Starting point is 00:00:58 So we got kind of deep. It was a fun episode. There was no direction whatsoever, which is great, great conversation. A lot of it was on relationships, which will also benefit your health to talk about. Also I do want to mention this month, all month long, for the entire month, the Maps Anywhere program, which is our, basically our program with no equipment. In other words, it's designed to train you effectively with bands and a stick.

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Starting point is 00:02:03 at mindpump pump media.com You guys see the monumental event Was it yesterday on TV monumental monumental? Whoa, I was this where Dennis Rodman. I saw something going on Of that whole thing crying of that whole thing you think that's the part that you Dennis Rodman no Actually, what are you talking about is not to do with North Korea is what I'm and fucking the the the the chubby faced cherub looking leader of North Korea

Starting point is 00:02:31 right came with name come don't come don't you know you know they every time we talk about him I can't help but get the movie interview out of my head yeah I love that they met dude they actually sat down and talked which which is monumental. Who?

Starting point is 00:02:47 Dennis Rodney. No, Trump and the... Oh, well, you brought this up before. They were planning it, right? They were planning it, got canceled, got risked, get set up again. They actually met and people don't understand like just how much of a hermit country that is.

Starting point is 00:03:02 They're the most shut off isolated country on earth, period, period. Like the people there, when people escape North Korea through China, like there's just one young lady, I can't remember her name, maybe Duncan look it up. I can't remember her name, but she's this young lady escaped North Korea through China. Then she, it took her like a year just to,

Starting point is 00:03:25 just to realize how brainwash she was because she literally thought that the leader the North Korean leader could read her mind the entire time And just talking about life over there and what they're taught like they're taught that the leader is basically a god That Americans eat North Korean children that Like, weird shit, very, very strange shit. And they're so icy. Like, it isn't poop. No, it's not. Yeah, because he works so hard. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:03:54 He works so hard he just absorbs all his food. You get- He looks like he's full. You know somebody's looking at him going, oh, he's chubby. How the fuck did that happen? Yeah. That doesn't make any sense.

Starting point is 00:04:04 Oh, I just never got out of his body. Yeah, but anyway, it's, for's chubby, how the fuck did that happen? Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. Oh, it just never got out of his body. Yeah, but anyway, it's for them to meet that's a fucking insane thing. Do we know anything that happened from it yet or no? Not yet, but the fact that they actually met is that's a massive, massive win. Isn't that interesting? How much coverage all over the place?

Starting point is 00:04:21 Okay, good. Yeah, but the other, a lot of times, it seems to me it's not getting covered. The left is gotta be, see. Yeah, but a lot of times, it seems to me, it's not getting covered. The left has got to be, see I don't follow any of the stuff because I don't care, but the left has got to be presenting it

Starting point is 00:04:30 in a different way. The left has to be presenting it like, he's in kuhuts. Oh, dude. Oh yeah. You know, it makes me laugh. He's, yeah. You know, it makes me,

Starting point is 00:04:38 he's a dictator working at real soon here. He's going to try and... Anytime a president does something that's generally a good thing, the other side always finds it, it tries to make it a bad thing. It doesn't matter if it's right or left. Yeah, this report came out that,

Starting point is 00:04:51 and right now Trump's president, that's why I'm bringing him up, because the same thing happened with Obama. There were definitely things that Obama would do, not a lot, but there were definitely things that you would do that were good, that I used to remember the Republicans with fire him over, and I'd be like, you know, just be pissed off at him.

Starting point is 00:05:04 I'm like, how can you be mad about that? But like another situation was this report comes out that shows that minority unemployment, it's at its lowest rate in a long time. Like people are just unemployment is low period, but especially with minorities. And so Democrats are coming out and they're like, you know, minorities don't care about unemployment. It's because the president is disrespectful or some bullshit like that and everybody's like, what? Everybody cares about that.

Starting point is 00:05:31 I don't know, I don't know, we not care about that. Just clap, it's gonna be like, hey, it's a good thing. That's it. Yeah, I mean, don't get so angry on these things. I'm not saying things out of it, right? Gas prices are going down because of the new policies or whatever. They're gonna increase pollution, you know, they'll say some shit like, yeah, fuck. Yeah, we did.

Starting point is 00:05:47 You know what I'm saying? But this is a, this is, and you know what it is, I think it's because, I think it's because that motherfucker is just, he comes across as kind of crazy. And I'm not talking about North Korea's president either. I'm talking about Trump. No, I know. He comes across as crazy and I think these people are like,

Starting point is 00:06:03 ooh, we better, we'd be interesting to see. We better talk. Yeah, like these other leaders perceive him, you know, because he goes into a lot of those meetings with that same kind of gangster mentality he does with like any business meeting, right? You know what it is, is if you're the president of the United States, you're in a position of major power.

Starting point is 00:06:23 Obviously you've got the most powerful military in the world, but you also have the most powerful economy in the world and like the tariff situation, right? What your students are adding attacks on things. If there's a tariff war, theoretically, like, you know, you more than you'll hurt us. Everybody gets hurt, but, you know, you can make the case, right? You can make the case and be like,

Starting point is 00:06:43 okay, you wanna play this game? Sure, well, your economy will fucking tank way worse than ours will. Mm-hmm. And, you know, you got to kind of play that game a little bit, right? Which it feels like that's what he, that's what he tries to do. But anyway, monumental moment. Who's CEO of Apple? I don't know, Tim Cook.

Starting point is 00:06:57 Tim Cook, right? I think he's a mind pump listener. Why? No. Yeah, I think so. I think he's a fan. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. A couple of people through through through some DMs at me of

Starting point is 00:07:06 What Apple is doing now with the iPhone? For oh easy copying our ideas. No the the time the time the time management of your what you're using your phone for So you can you can put like restrictions on so little it'll shut off like when you're let's say you say I'll only one hour of entertainment on my phone and so it'll shut off like when you're, let's say you say, I only one hour of entertainment on my phone. And so it tracks it and then it'll lock you out of your, like, you're, yeah, yeah. So think about as parental guidance for your kids. Oh, I love that. You give them an iPhone and you're like, you automatically just put in, they got two hours of, you know, surfing on the web or this or whatever that. And yeah,

Starting point is 00:07:44 right. I think it's pretty smart. Now, the funny part is I was wondering with adults, like making them more aware of what they're doing is if it'll be just like with counting calories. Like, it will not matter, it'll probably just be driving up anyways. Override. Yeah, you're right.

Starting point is 00:08:00 You need to make one where your phone explodes or something like that. We're not shocked. Yeah, the punishment is zapping you. Yeah. Yeah, because I mean, you know, electronic phone in your head would be cool, but just zapping you. In the middle of like watching, oh shit. It deducts from your account.

Starting point is 00:08:14 Yeah. Yeah, fuck $100 for the 10 minutes. Man, I think I'll stop right there. Dude, Justin, what was that noise in the bathroom, bro? Dude, that was not your normal poop screaming. No. Your normal poop screaming. I went to do my normal morning routine

Starting point is 00:08:26 and I was basically, I had like one of the most frightening experiences ever. Whoa. What? Yeah. Yeah, so I was just. That's a statement. Especially from Justin, because he's had some

Starting point is 00:08:40 terrifying situations. No, because, listen. I'm there after him, too. You know how you take your pants down, so basically my shorts are almost touching the ground. Yeah. And you're in a very vulnerable state. Yeah, because you want mobility, you want air.

Starting point is 00:08:55 Yeah. You know what I mean? You need to feel that. You need the breeze, you need everything to move. See, I feel like, do women pull their pants all the way down like guys do? I don't know. Because I like to go do some research. Let everything happen. That's an interesting question

Starting point is 00:09:07 We I think they might be a little bit like they pull me like down enough just enough like yeah, that's the knees Yeah, that's what I picture. Yeah, cuz I go I go away and I have buddies that even take their shirt off guys have things hanging between their legs You gotta open your legs really wide to let everything kind of like fall out. Yeah, that's right Has your ever any breathing room not? Not to derail this. Power stands. Not to derail this, but the most disgusting thing that's ever happened in my life in a public bathroom

Starting point is 00:09:30 is my weighing touches the seat ever happened. Oh, I know. Just immediate like, I'm like, where's the antibacterial fucking instant instant. That's right away you can get checked from the doctor like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Doc, I need to get in here. Oh, you need that back too. Why are you out fucking around? Like, no, no, my dick touched Instant instant as right away you get checked from the doctor like Doc I need to get in here. I'm leaning in that back to why are you out fucking around like no no my big touch the fucking To the local bar. Yeah, try to get any sleep try to explain that to your girlfriend

Starting point is 00:09:55 Yeah, my my my my checkup came back and I got a STD motherfucker. Oh must be with time I touched the toilet seat with my It's fucking it's almost as bad as when the water splashes back up and touches you right in the butt. That's fucking terrible. Actually, yeah, that cleans you a little bit. No, bro, it's fucking toilet water. I mean, it's gross.

Starting point is 00:10:15 Touching your butthole. You might as well have sex. Well, you just do it again with the toilet. You do it again after it's with a fresh water. Yeah, you eat exactly. There's nothing fresh about that water. Sure it is. You could drink out of that. I'm thinking you did it. I didn't even nothing fresh about that water. Sure it is. You could drink out of that.

Starting point is 00:10:25 I'm thinking you did it. I didn't even get a test like that with you. No, you could drink out of the tank. I wouldn't. I would recommend it. Adams confused. Not the bowl. You never drink out of the bowl.

Starting point is 00:10:34 It's the tank in the back. I've been doing it wrong this whole time. Adams, like if there's an earthquake, babe, we don't need water. I read somewhere you could drink out of the toilet. Oh, it's disgusting. I'm gonna bring it back. So I'm sitting in this very vulnerable state, right?

Starting point is 00:10:47 And it comes time to wipe and I'm gonna do my thing. And I look on the ground and I see a mouse. And the mouse, and I was like, oh shit, like it just threw me off. It just closed you. Like I just stood up and was reaching back to kind of wipe. And so it got me to really like, this position of you.

Starting point is 00:11:07 It was like, I don't know it. Wipe weird. Yeah. You're like a monkey. That's not a girl wipe. Yeah. Well I can't do, I can't like, that's bad to me. Wait a minute, I was doing sitting down.

Starting point is 00:11:17 That's the front right there. I don't do back. Are you going between the legs or you're around the back? Listen, this is how I was trying to like, I don't know this. Maybe that angle, it doesn't work. I'm gonna do like this. Okay, okay, okay. It's gonna look like you're going between the legs.

Starting point is 00:11:29 Yeah, that's what I saw this. I was like, whoa, bro, that's back to front. You're gonna get ballshipped. Yeah, you've been doing that wrong. I know better. Okay, I'm gonna give myself a yeast infection. But I'm like, anyways. So, I'm going back, and I see it getting like right next

Starting point is 00:11:44 to my feet, and I was was like what a brave mother fucker What the fuck's going on and I was like oh shit and Did you stop it went up my leg? Oh shit? Yes, it climbed up my leg and so I just was like Fuck I must felt like on my head because my feet kind of went out You know because I felt I felt it crawling on my head because my feet kind of went out, you know, because I felt it crawling on my leg. And you have no one, it's gonna go up and turn. K, not, it doesn't stop there, right? So like I had my my my shorts were down. And so

Starting point is 00:12:15 it got caught like in my shorts. And so I'm like fucking stopping. Shut your face, it just happened. Yes. And it was like in my pocket of my shorts, and so I threw my shorts off of a butt naked. There was a fucking guy that was in there, I was like, oh, fucking what is this? And this guy was like, had no idea what I was doing, because I was like, there's a mouse in my shorts, and I'm fucking freaking out. Well, here's this. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:12:42 So he was doing that. That's your penis, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.. What is it? Yeah, yeah. So he wants to be like. That's your penis, sir. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. That came out of me. He's like, you know Mexican food. Bro, as you get him, I was doing the Mexican head dance, dude.

Starting point is 00:12:53 Just trying to fucking stomp. And I basically was like, I backed off. And I'm like, but naked just like looking at my shorts. And then it ran off. What? You could have had a pet. You could have saved him. Wow.

Starting point is 00:13:08 That's a brain. Hold on a second. Put it back on. I'm impressed with the smells because that is a, mice don't usually do that. They're scared. Yeah. But he was trying to be your friend.

Starting point is 00:13:17 He was, he was going for it. You know what I think the smells, you know what I think that was going on here, Doug? He's trying to do your smell. No, I think. He wanted to burrow. Yeah. Oh, God.

Starting point is 00:13:27 Wait, what if it's like those movies where like one of your like friends or something dies and then their soul goes into an animal and they try to communicate? Oh, I guess. It's me, friend. I was like, stop. Get the fuck off me. I was like punt kicking it. No, you know what, dude?

Starting point is 00:13:40 So I'm looking at Doug right now because Doug said that he's a couple times now seen a mouse in the Facility in the supplement in the room where the fucking organica Definitely are invested like I I think I think this motherfucker's been eaten the green juice and shit and just feeling strong You have a mouse eat you're right you're seeing a mouse eat supplements because I've had that happen before It must be the time of years it was this this time last year when we saw one, right? The first time when we had the visitor. Well, so here's a Tom. So here's a story, right?

Starting point is 00:14:12 You caught him and threw the last one out. Okay, you know, 24-hour fitness on Santa Teresa, right? So I was there and they had that, you know, the back room with the supplements or whatever. Right, right. We saw a mouse in there once and we fucking emptied everything, tried to feel, couldn't find where the son of a bitch was

Starting point is 00:14:27 But we would find periodically protein bars and powders and crates team crates team powder get eaten like this little motherfucker was eating supplements Jack Just Jack fast forward Fast forward turns into a rat one of my friend desk people one of my friend desk girls It is back there she starts screaming out of her mind runs out closes the door There's a fucking massive rat in there she says so I go in there and this rat was definitely on some shit Like it wasn't a natural looking rat and I think it was the same one

Starting point is 00:15:01 Yes, it was explained splinter eating the creed tea and all that stuff. That's what I think and we ended up we caught it. We finally caught it. We get some turtles. So, but this one right here, this mouse that the reason why I brought dug up is because Doug set out traps and on two separate occasions now, the whatever the treat is on, what do you put it on the trap,

Starting point is 00:15:19 by the way? Shave coconut from Thrive Market. Shave was plugged. Is that, is today commercial for Thrive? No. I'm not. I'm just giving him a little extra. Oh, that was a really good day to do Thrive.

Starting point is 00:15:29 Okay, so dumbles. So your's rat bait. So twice the bait was gone. Yeah, it's not good rat bait, I think. No, he likes it. I think it's too light, Doug. Yeah, I know we get some heavier stuff. Yeah, you need some heavy pressure.

Starting point is 00:15:44 Yeah. Is this the old school traps, the snap ones? Yes. Okay. The humane ones. What I found, this is the honey we're shooting. I think those are considered humane. I think the ones where they say they trap them

Starting point is 00:15:54 with the glue. The glue is not a thing. Oh yeah, that's horrible. That's a horrible way to go. Why is it, I don't understand, because it's quick. So the snap, it breaks them up. No, I get why that is supposed to be humane. Well, because they have to have to like eat their arms off

Starting point is 00:16:06 and shit because they can't you know get out of it. It's blue. Oh, they get and their mouth gets stuck down on it. Screams all time. Yeah. Yeah. Do I have a terrible. I have a bad experience with one of those. Yeah. I really. Yeah. Dude, you're because I'm not look. I'm not. You know, it's funny is the people who probably do those probably think it's the more humane way. They're like, Oh, I don't want to snap in with a, you know, wire break in his neck.

Starting point is 00:16:27 I'll put him in some glue and I'll throw him away. I don't have a talk with him. More fun. Let him freeze. It's like drowning somebody. It's still waterboarding. Doing much. I had a mouse in my house once years ago,

Starting point is 00:16:39 and that's what I did is I got the glue traps because the exterminator recommended him. Said they're super effective. They work. Bro, you ever hear a mouse scream? Yes. Okay. Middle of the night.

Starting point is 00:16:50 My mother-in-law just freaking hit me up the other day to come over her house because, and it was so like eerie, I come and she's like, could you get the mouse out of my, he was like back in about where pots and pans are and she'd been trying to track them, and you can hear him. Just, yeah. I'm like, oh, God. Oh, really? I don't mind getting a dead one out,

Starting point is 00:17:08 but getting one that's like screaming. This is a little weird. Oh, terrible. No, I had, he got caught in the middle of the night. I hear screaming from this little thing. Oh, shit. Awake up in the middle of the night. Go down.

Starting point is 00:17:18 There he is. So I'm like, now what? I have to kill him. Like, what do I do now? I can't rip him off this glue. And if I set him out, he'll come back. So I'm like, how do I kill him? I had to think of how to kill him like what do I do now? I can't rip him off this glue and if I set him out you'll come back So I'm like how do I kill him? I had to think of how to kill him So my idea was yeah, Hatch it. No my idea relax

Starting point is 00:17:32 Jesus Christ Just no my deal was handle it dude my idea was as I was gonna like squash it like just compress him until he couldn't breathe So I got a shovel I brought him outside and I pushed down on the shovel on top of it. Oh God, dude, like all pressure. Well, I think, I'm thinking, I'm thinking he'll pass out and then die from lack of oxygen. Those motherfuckers, you can't squash them.

Starting point is 00:17:55 I push it down and it, I still alive. I'm like, oh my God, dude, what do I do? So I left him outside overnight, which was bad. I hope we can't get him. Yeah, he comes out the next day. So I left him outside overnight, which was bad. I hope we got cat food. I hope we got cat food. Yeah, he comes out the next day. But, fuck man, that was it. Oh, that was awful.

Starting point is 00:18:12 Because I'm not like super, I love animals, but I'm not like a super animal. I don't love animals. But I don't like killing them, you know what I mean? Especially if I'm not gonna eat it. You know, if I was gonna eat the mouse, maybe it would have been a big deal. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:18:24 No, gross. Not on my top. but what we should do is get a cat Yeah, let's get a studio cat a studio cat. Yeah, I think that's good. Get a little badass cat that lives in this back Actually, it's not a bad idea as you say guys like cats. No, I'm allergic Would it be bet What if I get a hairless one What if we get a hairless one? This is shit. I'm a dog guy, right? So just having a cat roaming around here would be weird.

Starting point is 00:18:50 I mean, you dogs at certain terrier breeds. We're just putting a target on our back if we do that. For what? I don't know, I would make fun of you guys if we had a cat. If we had a cat, you already have a guy with a man button. You know, we gotta be careful. Perfect. You gotta cat too.

Starting point is 00:19:03 Come on. Really? Think of our image. Let's go to hell. Let's go on over at Mind Pup. I. You gotta cat too. Come on. Really? Think of our image. Let's go to you. Let's go to you. Let's go to you. Let's go to you.

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Starting point is 00:19:39 I've seen those the wild yeah, you can buy a Bobcat. Yeah, you can get a but some states will let you even have like a little Like a little tiger dude. You can do that and certain I think, Arizona, I looked this all up back when I was actually considering this. Survelled. You look like you'd be an exotic animal guy. I would, dude. I would have some like that. Okay, look at this cat. This is the one that you could buy.

Starting point is 00:19:52 It's called a Survelle. Survelle, I don't know if I'm saying it right. Look at that thing. It's like a little leopard. Tell me that wouldn't be a bad ass, little animal I have in here. And that's big. That thing's like this tall.

Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah, I could go with that. That's cool, because that's tough. Yeah, that could probably eat a dog. Yeah, yeah It might bite us if you had a cat in here He would have to be like a like a vicious cat Like just like like we're not getting like a little house cat that this probably wouldn't even be like get the mice Oh really? We need we need like a cat like a dude. We got a lot of wires and stuff You know, it's just gonna chew it's Here's the cat that I would get.

Starting point is 00:20:26 You guys are fucking, you guys are all mean and shit. Here's the one I want. Look at this little bastard. Aw, that's cute. You look at it. No, the animals you like are weird. What do you mean no, dude? That's so cute.

Starting point is 00:20:37 He looks like a little smashed face. Yeah, it looks like a little teddy bear, dude. It's a flat face cat. Look up ragdolls. A ragdoll? That's what I used to have a rag doll. I tell you this story on that, I bought this rag doll from New York. So you've owned cats before.

Starting point is 00:20:50 I had one cat one time. This one that died? Yeah. A thousand dollar pussy from New York. Wow. Right? Any only last time. You know if you Google that, you won't get a cat when you do rag doll.

Starting point is 00:21:01 No, if you Google a thousand dollar pussy from New York, you can York I can't want to direct you to some like obscure strip club. Yeah He was a cool cat though. He was a really cool cat, but that's when I found out that I was allergic to him too Yeah, you get sneezes. Oh, probably was out of control out of control. Why did you why'd you kill it? I didn't kill him? Oh my bad No way dude, you said that'd be irresponsible. That's what it's supposed to be. That'd be irresponsible. That's what it's supposed to be. That'd be irresponsible. That'd be irresponsible.

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Starting point is 00:21:46 it ended up like drowning. Shit. I found him like barely breathing and rushed him there and like by the time I rushed him there, he was damn near done and then they told me that they could revive him and try and keep him on oxygen. How long did you have the cat before that happened? Only six months, dude.

Starting point is 00:22:01 Oh shit, were you attached? Yeah, it was just getting attached to him, dude. Like he was, they're they're the breeds really cool so if the ragdoll of cat if you're a cat person it's I think it's a cool cat it you can in the way they're called ragdolls you can grab them like they just they're chill and they follow you around like a dog they're more like I want one of those yeah this what did you look it up look at look at them I did the dogs you know they're cool they do like he would he

Starting point is 00:22:23 would actually come in that so I used to have I'm gonna bring a cat and fuck you guys because for sure you won't kick him out I know you guys you guys are big hearts like big teddy bears. I'll bring a cat in here. You're not gonna say shit I Want to get one of those I think even if we had like a toy even we had like a small dog in here would keep the cute I don't have that like a little like a little French bulldog in here would be cool You just want another dog I do Dogs are a lot of work dude and then we can't go on trips and shit. We make some of the staff take care of it. That's kind of like a good idea. That's a good idea. We'll use the staff if we don't make them take care of you. Exactly.

Starting point is 00:22:55 It's true. Yeah, no, I don't want the responsibility of walking and training and stuff like that. I just want them roaming around. You want a French bulldog? Yeah. I don't think French bulldogs are great. No, we're trading them for. Trade them first and then we train them. I don't think Frenchies are good for for mouse and marrow. Mouse and marrow.

Starting point is 00:23:11 I think mice. I don't think it's mouse ears, right? Terriers. Terriers are good. Yeah, it's like a Yorkie would actually be good. You and your weird dogs that you like. What's the weird dog? You like all the chick dogs?

Starting point is 00:23:22 Uh huh. You like the chick dogs. I like small dogs. Yeah, well, small, French bulldog small. I love French bulldogs. I just don't see a French bulldog being What's the word about your dog? What's the word about your dog? You like all the chick dogs? Huh? You like the chick dogs? I like small dogs. Yeah, well, small, French bulldog small. I love French bulldogs. I just don't see a French bulldog being a good hunter. I don't think we actually need him to hunt.

Starting point is 00:23:32 I think just the dog being present is enough to scare them. That's not true, dude. I don't think it's scared, bro. It's not a leg. You know what I'm saying? This is not a scared batch of mice. You get a call with.

Starting point is 00:23:43 The mouse is gonna call the dog to the man. That's something about you. It's a, it's a, it's a deal with you, man. You know what it is, you know what I just said. It's a scent. No, it is. You know why? What is Justin eat way too much of it?

Starting point is 00:23:53 Cheese. Yes, yes, bro. Your shit is, it puts off a cheese odor, bro. That's the way, that's the way. That was not what I was. Yesterday, I yesterday caught him when we're eating the protein about insane thing to eat. What happened? We all go to Luna all the time, right? I said caught him and we're eating the protein about insane. Whatever.

Starting point is 00:24:05 We all go to Luna all the time, right? I said add cheese. Yeah. Right, which totally normal. But I look over at him. So if you look at my bowl, I kind of put a little bit of cheese in there and mix it in. Just so it gets a little cheese flavor in there.

Starting point is 00:24:15 I look over at Justin and he's eating spoonfuls of cheese. By itself. By itself. Just I look over at this. It's your own portion of the plate. There's no steak or bean on that. That's just a, like a, a like a mix just a spoon of cheese Dude you're a liar. I'm not a liar. Did you have a cheese poop?

Starting point is 00:24:31 Cheese poop. Ah, that's exactly what they've also came bro. I know the mouse is like I've never Yeah, that's the best cheese I've ever smelled in my life And then you know in his mind bro, you already stained the air right when I come in there It's fucking I could always tell you in there. So he's like Yes, that's what his little primal mind is like Okay, do I take this risk? I've never smelled that So she's having It smells like she's having

Starting point is 00:24:59 She's hell he was going for your but hold dude. He was trying to burn out would have been you would have had a what's that guys Who's that one actor that that rumor that he had gerbil stuck in his butt? Yeah, who was it? Richard gear? Yeah Hey, are you about to do a Richard just are you current on billions yet? Yes, but season finale shit Wow, dude. That wasn't the finale. Yes, was it yeah, it's over Really that was it dude season finale right there. You know like that was crazy and like the way that all I don't sound doesn't care Okay, you guys keep on was like Dude like Taylor's rolling that it was insane. Yeah. Yeah, how that all played such a great show

Starting point is 00:25:36 I Westworld I'll tell you what the Westworld the last one. Did you see the non-behind one? Oh my god best episode? I've seen on TV. Oh wow. Oh man, you got me, I'm excited to watch you catch it. We'll do that out there. It was like, it was super like deep and intense and epic. So two totally different shows, but in my opinion right now,

Starting point is 00:25:57 two of the best shows on television right now. If you're not watching billions or Westworld, you're wasting part of your life. Yes, I watched Jersey Shore. Yeah, I did. That's why I did, bro. Yeah, we'll just keep talking. My cousin was talking all about that this weekend.

Starting point is 00:26:13 He's like, dude, it's so good. It is, bro. It's ridiculous. He's like, if you like the original, so the last episode that I just watched, Vinnie's mom. And so Vinnie's mom is my favorite character. She only showed up once or twicenie's mom is my favorite character. She shows up. She's only showed up once or twice But she's my favorite character because she's the stereotype of the overbearing

Starting point is 00:26:32 Southern the time mom like stereo type like cuts his crust softener cuts his food for them She shows up does his laundry. Do you think when they were they were Casting for it. Do you think they like looked for that? Of course. I don't know if they look specifically for that, but they probably saw this. No, that's what I mean. Like exactly. Each character, do you think, like, oh, this is perfect?

Starting point is 00:26:51 There are stereotypes that are true, man. And that's definitely what, like I'm watching her and I'm like, Well, if it's true, is it a stereotype then? Yeah, because it's not true for everybody, right? But there's some generalization. And then his uncle Nino was, What are all the true stereotypes you know about?

Starting point is 00:27:04 About what, just what are all the true stereotypes you know about about what just What are all the true stereotypes you know about I can talk about my culture for sure. Yeah, yeah Racist if we go the other way yeah for sure We do whole episode of the stereotypes. Yeah, what we think about other people other racist Well, you can start with our own first start with our no, you know, Mexicans definitely parked their cars on the grass Do they really? Yeah, they do that. Now what a inability thing to they barbecue in the front?

Starting point is 00:27:31 What are your drinking corona? What's fucking happened? What side of your family's the Mexicans side all the all the so all the women so my grandmother was full And then they all married like white white men. So it's it's it's a lot of it's washed out down to me I'm only like quarter, right? So, but yeah, all the women married it. And it's just cousins and uncles and friends and stuff. So when you go to like family stuff, do you hang out? You can hang out with like your Mexican side. I don't. I don't. We don't. Remember, my family didn't connect that much with. Yeah, when I was a kid, I didn't really hang out with a lot of

Starting point is 00:28:01 my cousins and family members. That's just my own experience growing up around other Hispanic families and stuff and being around it. It was a common theme that you would see. Like, okay, that's just totally normal and okay to park your car on the lawn. Like I get it, that's cool. Yeah, we had a lot of wonderbred mayonnaise, apparently. Did you really? I just get it.

Starting point is 00:28:21 That's actually really good. Yeah, is that a stereotype? I don't know. I like mayonnaise and wonderbiz. Did you roll? I just get it. That's actually really good. Yeah, is that a stereotype? I don't know. I like mayonnaise and wonder what. No, I mean, the stereotype of the overbearing, you know, Italian mom is, I mean, there's a lot of fucking truth to that dude,

Starting point is 00:28:33 especially with their boys. Like, you're like a little prince in the house. Mom does everything for you, wipe your fucking mouth for you, get your clothes out for you, make your bed for you, clean your room, but it's also like, nobody's good enough for you. God forbid you date a girl and, you know, like there's this one comedian,

Starting point is 00:28:51 and he's not very well known, but he's hilarious to me because he's Sicilian and his family's actually from the same town of Sicily that my parents are from. And all of his skits are around, you know, that those stereotypes. So they're hilarious because, you know, I see a lot of truth in them. And he does a lot of these types of skits,

Starting point is 00:29:07 whereas mom, he did one where the title of it is, when you tell your mom, your girlfriend's cooking is as good as hers or as good. Oh, God. And she gets all pissed off and how dare you tell me, whatever, and it's the true. It's the true. It can be true.

Starting point is 00:29:20 So that's kind of common in the Hispanic culture too. It's all the men are like, the men are worshiped in the women, like my sisters and stuff like that. My grandmother totally spoiled me more than the rest of the kids. And my mom's relationship with me, you can see it. And I didn't notice this until I got older.

Starting point is 00:29:37 Like, it almost seems like she's competitive with my girlfriends to the point where, I don't know if I shared this on the show before this just happened like two years ago. And my mom is an amazing cook. And Katrina has literally became an amazing cook since we've been together. Like she wasn't a major cooker when we first met, but she's learned to cook really, really well.

Starting point is 00:30:01 And she cooks amazing now. And so, you know, like, I feel like up until, up until this point where I'm talking about, I can never really talk about Katrina's cooking before until now. And so, I can tell my mom has this like competitive edge. Well, just a couple Thanksgiving's ago, my mom was in town. And it's tradition, my mom always, either for my birthday or Thanksgiving, she makes this like bomb cheesecake, right? Well, Katrina knows that, and so instead of making me the same cheesecake, the same recipe as my mom,

Starting point is 00:30:32 to where it's like competitive, she made me this like Oreo cheesecake, and it was different recipe, everything like that, and it was amazing, it was really, really good, right? And my mom came into town just after that, right? For the holidays, and she'd seen it in there, and I'm like, oh that, right, for the holidays. And she'd seen it in there. I'm like, oh yeah, no Katrina made this Oreo cheesecake.

Starting point is 00:30:50 God, it was so good. And my mom was just like, oh, like, like you like it better than your religious? I was like, well, I don't know if it's a better thing. I just really like it. Oh my God. Especially if you're next to your girlfriend and your mom. Oh no, this gets worse.

Starting point is 00:31:02 No, this gets worse. So my mom, like, that next day, I think it was at work or doing something and I come home and your mom. Oh no, this gets worse. No, this gets worse. So my mom, the next day, I think it was at work or doing something and I come home and my mom had made her cheesecakes. So now I've got like two cheesecakes. I don't even eat fucking cheesecake that much anymore. You're insane.

Starting point is 00:31:14 It's like one slice, I'm good, right? So now I got two full cheesecakes in my refrigerator and my mom's constantly like, have some cheesecake, have some cheesecake, you know what? To serve me all the time, like after I'm like, I'm good, I'm good, but I'm like, okay, I can tell my mom wants me to have some of the cheesecake, like, okay, so I have some of the cheesecake. And Katrina's in the kitchen,

Starting point is 00:31:32 and my mom is serving me in the living room, her cheesecake, and she's like standing over me while she's eating it, and she's like waiting for me to eat in the teller, and she's like, so which one do you like better? Oh, no. And I'm like, Katrina's in the kitchen, and my mom is standing right there. There's no right answer. Oh, you know what I looked at her? I'm like Katrina's in the kitchen and my mom is standing right there.

Starting point is 00:31:45 There's no right answer. Oh, you know what I looked at her? I'm like, really? You really gonna ask me that right now? Are you serious? Like Katrina's standing right there in the kitchen. Like why would you even put me in that position? And my mom just like, do you not like it?

Starting point is 00:31:56 I'm just like, oh my God, dude, I can't believe that she would do that. See, you know what the problem is with me? Is that sabotage? The problem with me is my girlfriend would totally understand this So I love the fact that she's an understanding woman if my mom asked me that in front of my girlfriend I'd be like mom yours is the best and I give her a big kiss and hug and everybody have to be cool with them Jessica the wink and then afterwards a big just be cool Whatever no, it's I mean my mom would time my brother, I'm gonna rat him out,

Starting point is 00:32:25 he's gonna love this. He was probably, here's the thing too, about the stereotype about my culture that can be true. Like, you don't move out until you get married. So, if I was a single 40 year old dude, I'd be living with my parents. Like, that's just, and it's not a thing, like nobody trips over it in our culture.

Starting point is 00:32:43 You just do it. And your mom still does everything for you. So literally she'd be folding my clothes for me, washing my stuff, cooking dinner, doing a lot of stuff for me, right? Which can be if you're not inside the culture, you can definitely come across as a massive mama's boy and understandably.

Starting point is 00:32:59 So my brother was like 20, he was like in his mid 20s, still living at home and we would laugh and I'd be like, dude, why don't you get your own place, you make a lot of money, whatever's like, why, do you mom does everything for me, cook dinner, I got great dinner, I got great dinner, so I'm gonna go send him. Yeah, and I'm like, I can't kind of,

Starting point is 00:33:13 can't blame him, you know? Right. So one of the things that kind of convinced him to leave, he was, he was sitting his room and he was, he had his headphones on, he was watching porn on his computer. And my mom just opened the door to clean his room. He was sitting face-on.

Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, midstroke. Yo dude, he was sitting face-on. Oh, face-on. Facing the computer. So I don't think she got a shot of the horror. I don't think she got a shot of him, because I think his back was to the door. But she could see what's on the computer screen.

Starting point is 00:33:43 So she opened the door and then closed it real quick and he kind of heard the door close and it turned around. And he's like, then afterwards, he's like, I don't know if mom and then afterwards he talked to my mom and he's like, did you come in my room? He's like, oh, I close it real fast. I'm sorry, I mean, it just tripped. He moved out after that.

Starting point is 00:33:59 I've never had someone that the closest thing I had happened to that was when I first moved to San Jose I lived with my grandmother and You know I had set my my when I first moved here the idea was to come finish my kines degree And so I had like converted the room into like this little office And I just got a new laptop. It was all set up to my speakers and so I have it all set up and my my door My bedroom door is open and I'm just going through my emails and I open up an email that my buddy sent.

Starting point is 00:34:29 And this, I remember when this became a thing and it was going around and popped up, I didn't know it when I opened it up and I opened it up and it locks your screen. Oh, and it's really loud. And it's really loud and it's saying, I'm looking at gay porn, I'm looking at gay porn. That's all these dudes like sucking dicks.

Starting point is 00:34:43 Oh my God. And my grandmother just was coming to walk you at the same time. And it's like, and my screen is locked and I'm like trying to get it out of my house. How do you explain that? I know. And to your grandmother doesn't know anything about you. My grandmother's, you know, how to what email is at this time.

Starting point is 00:34:54 You know what I'm saying? Like what's email and like trying to explain that to her. Like, what are you doing? So I'm slamming. Did you have a conversation with her about it? Well, yeah, I mean, I talked to her afterwards. It was a prank that my buddy did. And she got it and everything like that.

Starting point is 00:35:06 But the initial moment when she walks in that happens, I mean, I'm sure I turn bright red and freaked out. You know, and for the first like three minutes, you're just trying to delete out of it and back out of it. Like I'm not thinking I have to like unplug the computer, but it was one of those pranks that it literally locks up your computer. You can't escape out.

Starting point is 00:35:22 You can't just delete it or what that is. Like, locks on the screen for like a minute or two. Dude, I got caught, I got caught, this is what I was married. I got caught by my ex. She walked in, he'd on me, mid, you know, session or whatever. And all she does is she looks at me and she goes, ill and she walked out. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:35:39 Oh my God. I'm like, fuck man. Yeah, I feel dirty. You just killed my boner. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Oh, this party time. You either don't make too much noise and watch, or I don't know. Yeah. I think it depends on the girl, because Katrina would love that. She would, if she was.

Starting point is 00:36:09 It does depend on the girl. Yeah, it depends on the girl. And Katrina walked in and she'd be like, oh shit, party time. Yeah, right. We're starting early tonight, huh? You guys don't do that together, do you ever watch? What, 30 shit together?

Starting point is 00:36:21 Of course. Yeah, no, of course. But you know what, I don't do that a lot. Like I think it's a, it's just something to, to, to, to, you know, different. Yeah. I try and, I try on outing. I try and sprinkle it, sprinkle it in every once in a while as like something different. Because I think if what can happen to you is if you can, you get to the point where you have to do that in order for you to be aroused. I think it could either connect or disconnect you with someone, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:36:46 Right, right, absolutely. That's what I mean. It has to be used kind of like a tool, like something that you sprinkle in there every once in a while, but if you, I mean, I think you can absolutely become addicted to it. I think you can become addicted to it and then become. Speaking of which, do you know what company I contacted

Starting point is 00:36:58 for potential sponsorship? Whoa, I'm really curious what you're going on. Yeah, because I, who? Adam and Eve, it's this company online. We have no affiliation by the way. It's just all online. This is not a commercial, I have zero affiliation, haven't even heard back from them, but they're one of the biggest retailers of sex toys.

Starting point is 00:37:17 And I thought that would be kind of a cool deal to work out because it's part of health and it's kind of our brand a little bit. Yeah, you know it won't work though, because remember I thought I told you guys this, when my sister was working for like the largest like Dildo company in the country. What do you mean by the largest like the largest Dildo or the largest girl? I think both actually.

Starting point is 00:37:37 Yeah, I think they have the record for both, I have to ask her. But when Mind Pump was first taking off, I remember. Yeah, yeah, I had her reach out and talk to the boss and like listen to the show. And she was like, oh, the show's great, but absolutely not. Like companies that are that big, they're trying to make, it's still taboo, right? Pornography and talking about Dildos and that.

Starting point is 00:37:58 Really? Because I feel like like sex with Emily. She does sex toys and stuff all the time. She does come across. Yeah, but if you listen to her when she does them, I bet you it's very professional in the way she talks about it where. Yeah, knowing us.

Starting point is 00:38:09 Yeah, exactly. We'd be throwing them at each other. Well, yeah. And we look at how we do our commercials for our GANIFI. I mean, we find ways to make them really inappropriate. And they're not looking for that. They're looking for, like, I think they're trying to legitimize and make it more professional.

Starting point is 00:38:23 They're not trying to make it a comedy. They don't want comedy when it comes to that. I think I just could not take it. I think I just trying to legitimize and make it more professional. They're not trying to make it a comedy. They don't want comedy when it comes to that. I think I just want to discount. Could you imagine if we were, you guys want to discount? I'm trying to give discount. I bulk orders. I don't think I can take that seriously. I couldn't have a dildo company that we had to do commercials for once a week or once

Starting point is 00:38:41 a month or whatever our cadence was. And it had to be within these professions. I also feel like women probably sell it better because the sex toy market is female dominated, right? Women are the ones that buy most of them, even the ones that are for men, we don't need any apparatuses. Is that true?

Starting point is 00:39:01 I don't know that. Is it true? Bro, I imagine it is. Yeah, I mean, if you go on, if you're just throwing that out there. No, if you go on their website, it's, I mean, the sex toys, the most of them are going to be made for women, because what is there for guys specifically, really? For a woman, I can understand, like a woman,

Starting point is 00:39:14 some women have their first orgasm with a vibrator, because it actually is the first time they've ever been stimulated in that way. You know, guys are, I mean, our sex organs outside of our body, it's typically not an issue, and we get pretty good with our hand or whatever. It just be like those real dolls or whatever, like once. Gross.

Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, right, but that's like all male driven, you know, like that market. Yeah, and that's different, isn't it? I mean, I think it's a little different than like an actual, I don't know. Have either one of you fucked one of them, Dose? No. No. No, it's in the half, Doug. Doug, I don't know. Have either one of you fucked one of them, Dose? No. No.

Starting point is 00:39:45 No. No. Dug. I feel like Dug has like a house full of them. Oh my god. He just got a new place and it's like three bedrooms. Like what do you need three bedrooms for? Dug is.

Starting point is 00:39:56 Wow, that's over again. That's a Suzanne's room and this is over. Jessica's room over here. I'm like who are they? Why is their name the same in my girlfriend, Dug? Yeah. What the fuck? She's a nose ring Like what the fuck hey dude how weird it? Hey, would you get hell?

Starting point is 00:40:13 We're gonna duck house one time. He's got like three rooms for girls and they're all named like Katrina Just good guy core something a bad movie the blonde the pernet You know what I'm a pretty I'm a pretty like open-minded person, plus Doug is extremely valuable to the company, so I'd have to overlook it. Yeah, you know what I mean? I'd wait out for a while. I'd be like listen, we got to be-

Starting point is 00:40:34 I would measure his pernette. I'm gonna keep an eye on you. I would measure his production off of it. Like if he's been a lot more productive with it, I'd be to encourage him. Okay, you know? Maybe you and Katrina Katrina could go out on a date sometimes. We'd have conversations with our girls.

Starting point is 00:40:48 Just a little flirting. That's all I want you to do with them. Just a little flirting. Just like way more productive. He's like, when he's plugged in, just encourage him a little bit. Just a tiny bit. God, that would be creepy as hell. It would be creepy as hell just to walk in someone's house and see one of those.

Starting point is 00:41:02 I know. Have you guys ever had like a best friend or a buddy of yours that's like been into your girl and stuff and had like a weird conversation like they were dealt with that? Totally. No, dude. Oh, I had a play.

Starting point is 00:41:11 I had a good, I have. I've never had a guy tell me. I mean, I've had people tell me like my girlfriends were like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,, your wife is gorgeous. It's like, oh weird like that. Yeah, I was like, ew, like beat it. You know, he's like, I will.

Starting point is 00:41:29 Yeah. Oh my, dude. Oh, man. Ah, you served that one up, dude. Just as like, that's kind of hot. It's like, you know, yeah. No, yeah, that's not really awkward. You know who, and we still haven't released this episode,

Starting point is 00:41:44 Larry Evans, our boy, boy dude was like this and he was he was he was such a dog He was such a and this would just drive me crazy about him is the dude would be even hitting on my girl And I still and I still loved him. Yeah, but he just had this ability to do that Yeah, but I think you think it's kind of innocent, but you know, you're like, no, no, you're really like seeing where it's going. First of all, if you're a confident man, this is a good topic. If you're a very confident man, and you have a good relationship with your friend,

Starting point is 00:42:14 if they do it in front of you, if they do it in front of you, like if there was a hidden camera, or weird text message, he would do it. I'd be different. He would do it in front of me, and not in front of me, just as much.

Starting point is 00:42:23 It was both ways. But because he does it in front of you, it's different though. Right, right. Because you know, that's his personality. But I mean, him and I've been friends for a really long time. So he's been with me through multiple girlfriends that I've dated. And it always be great when they come to tell me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:42:38 Because they come tell me and I remember one time I was dating this girl, Kelly at the club and she was this blonde girl and she just said an amazing butt and he was so infatuated with it and he would always tell me. And we're out drinking and dancing one night. And you know I'm definitely the type of guy when I'm I don't have I don't cling to my girlfriend like you know she could be off dancing with other guys are doing her thing at the same time that I'm in the club and I'm totally fine with that. And so she's off kind of doing her own thing and Larry works his way over to her and stuff and he's like

Starting point is 00:43:10 whisper in her ear and shit, like 15 minutes later, she comes over and she goes, do you know that your friend just made a pass at me? I'm like, which friend? Larry? Oh, yeah, that's totally normal. Yeah, I knew that was gonna happen. She's like, no, no, I mean like, really, really, I mean, I think like really really I think if I would have said oh yeah, I know if you would have said yes I'm sure he would have for sure That's my boy all right No, I mean I think if you're really confident and that's now that's different I don't know about that. I don't know if I actually knew that a friend of mine would do something like that But you know here's the here's the bottom line at the end of the day. I had a day, yeah, go ahead. At the end of the day, your friend has a responsibility

Starting point is 00:43:47 to not do something like that, because that's a line I would never have. Oh, there's guy code. There's a line I would never cross. It's never exist, yeah. Oh, I'm very proud. But there's also responsibility on your girlfriend. He got to check it sometimes, which is awkward,

Starting point is 00:43:59 but yeah, for the most part, if it's super innocent like that, like you just know right away, like based off of your friend's personality, like what's gonna come, like my friend, he was just lazy, you know, like he never got out of his house. And so he would just see me like come back with like, you know, hot girl and then he'd start hitting on her too. You know, like come on, man, like go do your own fishing.

Starting point is 00:44:19 I had a, you know, you fucking lazy. I had an awkward situation where I was in Mexico and with friends, a bunch of friends and my buddies, wife, she'll drink and kind of get a little crazier, whatever. And a couple of times now, she'll say or do something that doesn't feel, it feels a little inappropriate. It's not outwardly inappropriate, but it feels that way. And you can tell everybody around,

Starting point is 00:44:43 is identifying that this is kind of, so we're at the pool, we're all drunk, we're all having a great time, and I'm putting lotion, not lotion sunscreen on my body, and she goes, oh, can I have some of that? So I'm like, sure, so I squirt some on her hand, and she starts rubbing my chest with it in front of everybody. And her husband's right there, and her husband's right there, dude, and he's my buddy, and I don don't know what to do because I feel very awkward. Yeah, she starts me circles around Yeah, it's the same time you're like I kind of like this. No, no, you know what happens He grabbed her hand while she was doing it and pulled it away and looked at her with this look and I was like Wow, this is really cuz I don't know what to do

Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah, then the rest then the rest of the time like we acted like it didn't happen I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure they had a fight later on that they said something last the other night Yeah, because that's kind of you know what I mean because you could tell on my face. I'm like what are you doing? I'm fucking put sunscreen on my chest. I was talking to this about my with my wife about that like what would really like You know set you off with like she said something funny to me. She was like I always pictured like if some girls like feeding you grapes I would lose my shit. I was like feeding you grapes. I can't have all the things.

Starting point is 00:45:49 Yeah, all the things, right? Cause it's so intimate, just like. You could rub up on him, but don't you feel great? Yeah, right. You're great. We were watching someone TV and it was just like, we were feeding him cheese cubes. You guys have to see, I'm not, I am not,

Starting point is 00:46:01 I don't have a jealous bone in my body, dude. I just don't, I don't, here's the reason why is I think of it like this, like no matter what, like if she's tempted or she wants to do something like that, she's gonna fucking do it. And if I get jealous about it and I try and keep her from doing that, I think I only will encourage that behavior. The other day, she's gonna do what she wants to do

Starting point is 00:46:21 no matter what, so I have full, like, but that was learned. I mean, I had to go through a process of that of like control, control, like, of course. And then, you know, as I, as I went through relationship to relationship, yeah, you realize right away, it's like just up and honest, like, I'm, I'm gonna do my thing. You're gonna do your thing. Like, if you don't want to be with me, you just better

Starting point is 00:46:39 tell me, you know, like, and that's just how I've operated. I'm, I'm not really a jealous person, but there's, I can just try to have, you would be a jealous person. I can have moments where, not really jealous, but I can definitely have moments where, like, okay, so Jessica, especially if she puts a dress on, she just, she's just, she walks, she's just walking sex. She's just very sexy.

Starting point is 00:46:58 Walking sex. I mean, I tell her all the time, like you give off a lot of that energy, you know, because the weight is moving, hip a lot of stuff. And so there's been a couple times where she put on this little tiny dress or whatever, and she's going to go somewhere, and then I'll kind of say something and then I'll catch myself. I was saying, you know, but I've already said it, you know, and the way I'll set it, be

Starting point is 00:47:17 like, and part of it is, part of it's, I'm sure part of it's insecurity, but part of it's also I'm very, I can be very protective. And I almost feel like Well, what if someone like you might attract the wrong attention or something? She's very innocent She's so she's like you telling me what I can and can't wear and I'm like well, no and then you know whatever But yeah, I'm not typically see that's interesting because we're different there I'm the one who Katrina get dressed and be like yeah put put something like this, but shorter She's really short shorts you see I'm like

Starting point is 00:47:42 Yeah, put something more at this, but shorter. I think we wear those really short shorts, you understand? I'm like, I'm just serving it at you. I try to make her look slettier on the glasses. You look great in the middle of YouTube. I'm very suffocated. Well, I just, I'm one, I'm confident in our relationship and like, I don't know when I've been in relationships like that where you date girls and you walk in somewhere

Starting point is 00:48:03 and everybody's ooning on and looking in Whistling and hollering and I've been put in enough of those uncomfortable situations to be comfortable with it. You know I'm saying like now if a dude puts his hands on your girls with that, that's inappropriate stuff. And she's not the type of woman to put it out there like that. Like you can dress provocative, but if you act provocative, it's totally different, right? Like it's one thing to look sexy and to have that sex appeal.

Starting point is 00:48:26 It's another thing to be, I fucking another guy while you're looking like that too. And it's like, okay, well, that's inappropriate, but she would never even fuck with those boundaries. No, it's funny, because Jessica knows me so well that the things that will bother her are the things that she knows I like in other people. Like if she saw such as some regular,

Starting point is 00:48:44 you know, hot girl talking to me, probably wouldn't bother. But if she saw some hot girl having a really good conversation with me where I'm enthralled, that may bother. Or she may be like, she's really smart. I don't want you to talk. Because she knows the things that I am attracted to or whatever. Well, that's also a flexure there in securities when it's like that. It's like, oh, I feel like I feel inadequate for this because and if he he's talking to or she's talking to someone and they're like that. It's always like that.

Starting point is 00:49:08 I think it's so good though for the ego to be challenged that way. I think it's such a good thing. Like I like getting put in that position. Like you go talk to like the, I mean, for me it'd be like the Matthew McConaughey guy, right? Cause I was wanting to be the blonde,

Starting point is 00:49:20 the blonde, the bold, the blonde, the bold, the bold, the surfer look guys like talking to my girl like that. But it's, I think it's good for me. It's like, you know, fuck, check my shoe. I checked my shoe. The movie star guy hit on my wife at one time, did, and I was like, oh cool.

Starting point is 00:49:33 You know, that's like validation. It's super compliment, man. Yeah. But at the same time, you know, like, there was a twinge of that, like, oh fuck, you know, that guy was super handsome, you know, and so you get like, you check yourself on that for a second. I mean, you know, you wanna hear what's,

Starting point is 00:49:47 you know, what really happens a lot when we go on trips, I mean, Jessica and I, couples hit on us. That happened, that's happened actually, well you guys put off the hippie swing or vibe. That's, whatever. You do. Which is not, we're not. I mean, I'm not even into that either,

Starting point is 00:50:01 but sometimes I think, I ask Katrina, do you wanna fuck them for some reason? I feel like they're putting that on. I appreciate that. No, I keep it in the family. Yeah, no, we're good. No, that's definitely not our thing whatsoever, but we've gotten hit on a couple different times by couples,

Starting point is 00:50:18 and it's kind of, it's a very strange, weird, I've never experienced that where you have a couple hitting on you, like, what do you say? Are they just being friendly? Maybe they're just being friendly. But we had this couple tell us they wanna hang out. Hey, come back to our room. We'll all get in the hot tub and just gonna,

Starting point is 00:50:32 they're like, nah. Yeah, when you first need someone, that's a little forward. Yeah. It's like the first time we've all got, yeah, come back to my room. And it was like this good looking older couple and their kind of early 40s.

Starting point is 00:50:43 It looks like that. So he's kinda like like they fit that. They do add a ponytail. They, I don't remember. But they kind of fit that mold, right? Where do you like it? Oh, you like it. I think that's a thing where you like on vacation.

Starting point is 00:50:53 You think we give off a swing or a ride? I guess. It's the natural oils and hippie side of you guys. That's what it is. Isn't really, yeah, it's the hippie side because that's part of that culture. I'm starting to wear suits everywhere. That's part of that culture, right?

Starting point is 00:51:04 Is the free love and free everything. And so I think you guys put off a hippie side because that's part of that culture. That's part of that culture right is the free love and free everything and So I think you guys put off a a hippie vibe and you're good looking and fit and you're into your bodies So absolutely if I was a swinger and I was I absolutely I'm trying to fuck you guys 100% like if I'm at it Stop saying you guys Well, that's what swinging would be that's's what swinging would be. I mean, we're in there. We're doing it with both, you guys. I mean, you're in the room, too, right? And the hell that gets down. There's that. There's a dosie dough in. I think we're in another couple of bites you back to their hotel room. There's no, I mean, that's a that's a

Starting point is 00:51:37 four-way, not a like a take turns. Like you go sit outside for a while. My partner knows no. That's a weird. I Yeah, I'm not cool with that. Do you remember the last thing that Jessica did that made you that got you upset or that made you feel insecure? A little bit insecure? Yeah, it was a while ago. She was, what did she do?

Starting point is 00:51:53 She went on a trip to San Diego with her friend and they were gonna get a, they were gonna do like a hostel. They were gonna sleep in a hostel. And but it was like a room with like five beds. So her and her friend and then three other random people were gonna be in there. And it kind of, part of it was the safety issue,

Starting point is 00:52:14 like well, that's kind of, that might not be too safe. And the other part of it was kind of like, some drunk dudes are gonna come home after, you know, late night of parting and you're all gonna be in the same room. So I kind of had an issue with it. And it wasn't a big issue, it was a little bit of the same room. So I kind of had an issue with it. It wasn't a big issue.

Starting point is 00:52:26 It was a little bit of an issue, though. I could tell, I could feel it inside myself. That was feeling a little bit jealous. What happened from it? Nothing. The safety issue was the one that she didn't do the hostile because I made the safety issue point, which after I admitted, like, okay, well, yeah, I'm being a little jealous. But it is kind of a not a safe thing to do. And then it dawned on her and she said, yeah, I guess we'll just get a room

Starting point is 00:52:48 just the two of us. But that was it, it was just a conversation. It wasn't like crazy. What about you, Justin? I think she, Courtney plans a trip every now and then to go to Cabo with like her girlfriends. And I had to check myself a little bit just about, you know, like, basically having her there, just whatever, doing what I had to just be free with. Like, yeah, you do your thing, I'll do my thing. Usually I don't have a problem with it, but I guess I didn't know any of the other girls.

Starting point is 00:53:21 Like she went with this whole new set of girlfriends that she just met. And so it was like a new thing that she got herself a new set of friends. We're living in Scotts Valley now, and meeting new people with moms, groups, and stuff like that. I just was a little bit uncertain as to the vibe of the group and everything. Did you catch yourself or did she have to check you? No, I caught myself. Oh, you caught yourself? I got myself, yeah, because it raised a little bit of the uncertainty, that started to come back to me and it was the safety thing too.

Starting point is 00:53:54 On the end of it being like, well, okay, where are you guys exactly staying? Like, who's, how are you gonna check in? And me, all this kind of shit that you just go through. But yeah, I've learned to like, so now this is becoming like a regular trip for her with these girls and it's great because it always, she always comes back more refreshed and more energetic

Starting point is 00:54:15 and like more about the relationship. You know, it's like we need, it's so healthy to do that. I say this all the time, I think it's so important. It's like, I mean, I know it's cliche to say abstinence makes the heart grow fonder, but there's truth to that. And when you, when you,

Starting point is 00:54:27 especially when you've been in a relationship. Absence or abstinence. Absence, abstinence. Okay, that's what I said. Okay, okay. Either way, yeah, because both work. Yeah, I'm gonna say. Absence and abstinence.

Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah, right. So I think that doing that, especially when you've been in a relationship for as long as you have with Courtney or I have with Katrina, when you talk about that many years, you know, you get used to that same person waking up with you and all the little things that they do that are so amazing are not that amazing to you anymore because you take it for granted. You take it for granted and when they're gone and away for three or four or five days in a row and I tell Katrina

Starting point is 00:54:58 that's one of my favorite parts about traveling with MindPom and I know she doesn't like it because we miss each other with that but that's what I love about it is, when I go, it always reminds me of how much I appreciate you being around me all the time. For sure, and it's so important. For sure, it makes it big. And to be honest, 100% honest, like, I can only speak for myself.

Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm not necessary. First off, I value my autonomy and freedom tremendously. Obviously, it's like one of my personal themes. And so if I ever feel like I'm being controlled or checked on or whatever, especially because I'm not doing anything wrong, it definitely can make me want to run in the opposite direction, right?

Starting point is 00:55:35 I don't like that. And because I value it so much, it helps me check myself if I start to feel. If I start to feel jealous or whatever, I think to myself like, okay, I wouldn't like it in return. And that helps me check it a little bit. Justin, what about the environment at the hospital? Like I feel like that, you never had like a,

Starting point is 00:55:53 you never, like you go over to work in your wife and you're just like the new doctor. And he's like, I mean, there's some hands, he's like 35 super hot, drives a badass whip. You know what I'm saying? Well, you know, it's funny too, like some, like she'll get some, some 18 year old, you know, guys coming in that are like, you know,

Starting point is 00:56:08 I've had like a sports injury or something. And it's like, you know, and she has to deal with cleaning them and like all this stuff. So there's, there's been issues, you know what I'm saying? And there's been some guys that like they, they fall in love with her, you know what I'm saying? After they've cleaned, she's cleaned their jumps. Not just that, but like, yeah, they've cleaned, she's cleaned their jumps. Not just that, but like, she's very friendly.

Starting point is 00:56:27 I'm scrubbing it. Yeah. Fuck you. But yeah, no, I knew there had to be some hospital stuff, dude. I'm like, come on, bro. That's like the worst hospital. It doesn't even bother me, though, because I don't know. I guess with her, my relationship with her

Starting point is 00:56:43 is totally different than any other girl that I've even dated. So it was like established from day one. Like, so if there's any inkling to that, it's like, we're done. You know, like, so that doesn't even exist in our relationship, but at the same time, it's kind of funny,

Starting point is 00:57:00 because she does tell me the stories of like, you know, some guys like saints, the stories of like, you know, some guys like saints, I'm an appropriate shitter, you know, a dad in the room with them and saying some shit, you know, in Spanish, but she understands Spanish. So yeah, like, he doesn't look like a girl that would understand Spanish. Exactly. Yeah, so she's been able to kind of identify some creeps and shit. And so sometimes I'll actually go in there and just make my presence known

Starting point is 00:57:25 if I've done that a few times. Oh, really? Yeah, so like, for instance, for the guy on the husband. Yeah, like there was a dad that I killed kitten. That was like, you know, he was saying some inappropriate shit, you know, and so I just like introduced myself to him and brought her coffee and shook his hand and shit

Starting point is 00:57:44 and made eye contact with him. I'll do stuff like that every now and then. That's a patient or is that someone who works there? This was a patient's dad that was in the room watching the kid, she works on the pediatric pediatric. So yeah, so I was like, okay, I'm gonna let this motherfucker know that I exist and what I look like and all that kind of stuff.

Starting point is 00:58:03 So you know, it's just every now and then you got to kind of, you know, let it be known. The thing about cheating that Devastates people so much isn't even the cheating aspect of it. It's that you were so convinced that you knew someone. You were so, what you feel fooled that you knew someone because you talked to people who are dev... Because I know people who've been cheated on

Starting point is 00:58:26 but they kind of expected it and it's still socks and they're pissed off, but it's not the same as like people who get cheated on by someone they thought would never do that. Like it would be like, it would be like if one of you guys murdered someone, I'd be like, I know them, this doesn't make sense. Like it doesn't make sense that they would ever do that.

Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah. It blows your whole belief for understanding of... Well, I think yourself, I don't know if it's as much as that as it is different for men and women, what bothers and more about that. Oh, no, they've done studies on that. Yeah, I think. So men are more likely to be upset

Starting point is 00:59:01 with the woman having sex and less likely if she falls in love. So those are the studies where they ask people, to be upset with a woman having sex and less likely if she falls in love. So, they'll do these studies where they ask people what would be worse if your partner had sex with someone, but they didn't love them, or if they fell in love with someone but didn't have sex with them and didn't have any physical contact, men would feel worse with the sex, women would feel worse with the love. And it's pretty clear. It makes clear. And it's pretty clear. Oh clear. It makes her a good sense. And it's pretty clear. Oh yeah, for sure.

Starting point is 00:59:26 If Katrina came up to me and she's like, I'm, I'm at this guy. He's just amazing and I'm in love and this and that. We've never done anything. And I go like, yeah, she goes, you know, we've never hooked up in that, but I'm just coming for this. I'd be devastated like that.

Starting point is 00:59:37 You know what I'm saying? Or I mean, it wouldn't bother as much as if she were to come and say to me, I fucked this guy, right? She just fucked some guy. So we had some random guy on some random trip. That would bother me more. Totally.

Starting point is 00:59:49 That if it was some dude. So let's unpack that for a second. Like why does one bother men more? Why does one bother women more? And I've read some articles on this and there's a lot of theories. And one of them, which makes, which feels like it makes the most sense to me,

Starting point is 01:00:01 is for men, if you know that your partner, your female partner is just having casual sex, that bothers you because a, a man never fully knows, at least evolutionarily speaking, never fully knows if offspring or his. So that's an important thing that where men would be very protective, like make sure that the offspring is mine. So that's number one.

Starting point is 01:00:23 Number two, let's be totally honest here. If a woman who's not horrendously unattractive just wants to have sex, she could do it pretty much whenever she wants. It's way easier for a woman. So knowing that as a man that your girl will just have casual sex. It's almost like a mirror of deficiency on your end, right?

Starting point is 01:00:42 It's like, what am I doing? And then the other part for women is like, it's the resources thing. Like, well, if he loves someone else, then he's not gonna provide for me, he's not gonna support me, he's not gonna be there. Because the random sex that my spouse has, my husband or my boyfriend has,

Starting point is 01:00:59 I know he loves me and he'll take care of me. And so that's kind of the, that's what the theory is. That's interesting. I think it would be, it's got to be different for each person, right? I think if, there's always that very answer. Hey Katrina fell in love with a guy.

Starting point is 01:01:09 I'd be more interested to meet him because I'm like, I'm probably not really like this guy. I'm gonna say like, we're probably gonna be friends. Like just, what if he's the opposite? Yeah, awesome. What if he's the opposite way to do it? She could be with me for a long time. I'm a fucking really cool person.

Starting point is 01:01:20 She found someone who's cooler than I am. I gotta like him. He's gotta be cool. Yeah, he's gotta be fucking cool. What would you do if it was like just the opposite of what you thought? It's just some fucking scrub, dude. Would you lose total respect? Oh, yeah, I'd be disappointed in her. If she didn't level up, I'd be mad. Yeah, like, you mean he's got that's what I mean. Like I expect her because she's a catch and she's bad-ass. If she leaves me for someone else, he'd better be fucking the next level. You know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 01:01:45 Like, he, I'd better meet him and go, God damn, I want to hang out with this dude. Like, I could learn something. I've been saying like, or I really like him. You know, he's a lot of fun, or he's funny, you know, say it like, be friends. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:01:55 Have you know what, dude, that we just piss her off, dude? That's why it'd be like a double win for me. Have you like, sort of a bitch, I try to get rid of this guy. No, they're best friends. He's working for me now. Have you ever felt like jealousy or anything with her

Starting point is 01:02:05 or a little insecurity? Has there ever been an issue? Cause he didn't know me for a long time. Yeah, no, we've been together for a long time. The only time I think, and obviously she would probably the best one asked this question too, but I don't think so. I think the only times I've ever been frustrated or upset

Starting point is 01:02:20 with her with something like that, it's more because maybe she just made me feel that way like a week or two before. Maybe she was just giving me grief because, you know, the way I put my arm around a girl, I put it like mid or lower back and it's like she giving me shit for something like that, right? And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me?

Starting point is 01:02:38 Like really? Too totally severed things. Right, right, exactly, right. You're sending a total different message or you're such a flirt about things. Put my camera, but. So if she's given me grief about the way I am around a female and then I catch her doing something similar, I think that's the only time I get it. It's not me upset because she's doing

Starting point is 01:02:58 that. It's more like, hey, see, you're just like me. You know what I'm saying? When you're talking to a male like that, like you're putting off that vibe, and I'm not bothered by it, but it bothers me that you're just like me and you do similar shit and you're giving me grief about it too. Like, relax. I mean, we live together, we see each other every day.

Starting point is 01:03:15 Like, I'm coming home to you. I don't want her. That is my personality. I'm like, so I've never been like, she's never, no, I think I'm sure she would defend herself and be like, well, I'm not that way. And I don't, I'm not constantly around men like you are. But she knows she's in a construction type job now

Starting point is 01:03:31 where she's got, I mean, she's like a super minority. I mean, you're talking about men. All men, and it's all like construction inappropriate. There's a lot of testosterone. Yeah, I 100% know she, I mean, sometimes she talks to me about it, but I don't even, I'm not the type of boyfriend or fiance, husband type of guy,

Starting point is 01:03:51 to be even like inquiring about it. I know it. It's like you work in an environment, I've worked in that environment before. I know it, it's like, I know the conversations we're having when we're framing and we're fucking porn, concrete and we're doing stuff with a bunch of buddies

Starting point is 01:04:04 that are drinking beer after work every day. I know the times conversation went and then I know it would be like when the one girl in the entire company is also hot and she's fucking, she's. You know what happens though? In a power position. But you know what happens?

Starting point is 01:04:16 Cause I've been in situations like that. You know what happens is if the woman like maintains her assertiveness and confidence, at first the guys will push, and then after a while she ends up becoming like, everybody's little sister, or everybody's, you know what I mean? You just get a bunch of guys.

Starting point is 01:04:30 That doesn't happen in this situation. It doesn't, she's the boss. So she's not the little sister. You know what I'm saying? If anything, if she rolls in an any roll, it would be mom, or the boss lady, you know what I'm saying? So she's not getting people feeling like she's the little sister or if anything. But yeah, at the end of the day, like, I know what happens. I know what I'm saying? So she's not getting people feeling like she's the little sister or if anything.

Starting point is 01:04:46 But yeah, at the end of the day, like, I know what happens. I know what happens, I know it's part of the job. I know that's what it comes with the territory. It doesn't bother me though. But, you know, you gotta appreciate the truth and the reality is that, you know, given our situation, we're not necessarily easy men to be with, if you really have to, if you really think about it,

Starting point is 01:05:06 it's not a common situation. We work in the fitness industry, which number one, if you're an insecure woman, dating a man who's in fitness, who's either a trainer, working in a gym, training women, especially if the guy's kind of fit or buffed or whatever. Like that alone is kind of a challenge. I know a lot of women who have said to me,

Starting point is 01:05:26 upfront, I would never date a personal trainer. How many clients have you had that had to stop training with you because their significant others stopped it? Not too many, but I've had a lot of them tell me that their spouses- Two or three. Yeah, I've had a lot of them tell me

Starting point is 01:05:39 that their spouses had an issue at first. You guys remember when I posted the stats that they did it? I think it was men's health or it was one. I can't remember where I read the article. It was a couple of years ago. I posted them. So number one.

Starting point is 01:05:50 Oh, yeah, it's number one. Hospitals are number two. And the, I think 72%. It was a really high number of trainers. So I have slept with clients. Yeah. So imagine being a woman who's dating a trainer in that position and knowing that the odds.

Starting point is 01:06:04 Just and married his. Yeah. We need to fight all the odds. Yeah, so imagine being a woman who's dating a trainer in that position and knowing that the odd just and married his We defied all the odds So I mean you hospital and yeah, absolutely you're in a really I mean again, too I think this is also why honesty and being straightforward about things like I was but it's not it's not a common situation Because we are in fitness then on top of it were you know kind of public personas on social media because we are in fitness, then on top of it were kind of public personas on social media. We're still in the fitness industry, even though we run a media company,

Starting point is 01:06:28 which means we travel a lot, and then you'll have followers and fans and listeners of the show. And when people view you in that particular way, they tend to not respect boundaries as much. When a woman sees a celebrity guy that she has a crush on, even though she may know he's married, she may feel like it's not a big deal to tell him oh my god you're so hot I love you where I'll do this to you like because there's like it's different because it's a celebrity you know I'm saying and so it's a horror it's you got to appreciate the the challenge and then on top of it

Starting point is 01:06:58 I can I can speak for myself I'm a very talkative individual I'll talk to people I have a good time with them and that can be challenging too. If you're dating me and you see me at a party, I'm gonna strike up conversations with people and men and women, and it may come across as flirting. I don't necessarily consider myself a flirty person, but I'm definitely, I like to talk to people. And so you got to appreciate that.

Starting point is 01:07:20 It is a bit of a challenge. It can be a bit of a challenging situation. You have to be a confident person. No, it's very challenging. I think it takes a very unique woman to be okay with all that. Very confident woman. You have to be, you can't be, and I went through it. There's no way you could date an ins, like a really insecure woman.

Starting point is 01:07:37 I dated a ton of them in my 20s and I saw where it all went. Imagine now, imagine dating one of those women now. Yeah, which just never happened. That was something that, I mean, I learned by the time I got, even before 30, but as I started to get close to my 30s, that just, this is who I am, this is the type of person I am. Like 100% I'm a flirtatious person. I do communicate with women all the time.

Starting point is 01:07:55 I 80% of my clients are women like, and yes, there's times where they're inappropriate. That's just, that is what it is. And I love my job and I love doing it. And I like my personality and I'm not trying to change it for anybody, you know, so that if I think if you can communicate that early on, and let me tell you, that conversation

Starting point is 01:08:12 fucking turned a lot of girls off. Like, and there's people listening right now, they're like, fuck that. I would never want to be with a guy like that. That's fine. I was a meant for you, you know what I'm saying? I actually, I meant for the girl that, I was meant for the woman that did in bother

Starting point is 01:08:24 and that was secure about that because she's confident in herself. Jessica actually had a friend, I think one or two friends who tell her like, oh, I could never date, Sal. I could never date him. Why? Well, because of what his job is and this and that and he's in fitness as people tell a few of him.

Starting point is 01:08:37 Yeah, they said that to her? Yeah, and always like, if you check up on him all the time and like make sure, you know, it's like, no, we don't, I don't do that to her, she doesn't do that to me just not it's not something we do. You know, I trust her. She trust me That's it. That's all we had to say. Yeah, and it's funny too because it's almost like it's counterproductive When you feel if somebody feels like they're being crowded or Controlled I've that mate that may make them more distant which may make it more likely for them to, you know, to want to leave or whatever.

Starting point is 01:09:07 Right, right. It's that, I don't know. Anyway, it's a fun industry to be in, but I could definitely see how it's, how it can be a challenging one. Oh, yeah, no. Justin, have you ever had, like, gotten that point with Courtney, where you grab her phone

Starting point is 01:09:20 and you start going through all our stuff for Ben like that? Or have she ever been that way with you? Oh, no, no, never. I think she will show it to me, or vice versa. Like, I will show it to her if I feel like this weird feeling. Like, this is something that, like, if she sees it on my phone, like, I actually had a little bit of reserve one time because I didn't know it was like in my photos and stuff

Starting point is 01:09:45 like in videos like, and I had this weird like old flashback of like a girlfriend that was like crazy like that that would do that, you know, all the time would like check up on me and see who I'd been talking to and all this kind of stuff. And then I just was like, oh yeah, no, it's not like that. She just wants to like take my photos and then like bring them over to her phone

Starting point is 01:10:05 to see what kind of cool pics I had. But it's like, yeah, I don't know, man. We've just had basically like, I'm an open book. So if you wanna go through it, and if I feel sometimes maybe I've, I have flirted and I've just talked in a certain way to girls or whatever. And like, but she's just like, you know,

Starting point is 01:10:25 I know how you talking interact and so it doesn't bother her, thankfully, to where, but yeah, I feel bad about it, you know? It's more me, like I'll be like, oh shit, like I feel kind of gross that, you know, I was like really like checking this girl out online, like a lot, like frequently, like it'll pop up and like their stories first

Starting point is 01:10:45 He's like oh her stories first again You know saying like that kind of shit, and I'm like oh, and then I like think about oh, I should just you know calm down a little bit You know and the reality is out of context if you if you look if you were to be able to Spy on your girls and them talking with their girlfriends. And you were able to listen to everything they said for a week. Some point they're going to say something's going to make you uncomfortable. And it won't be outwardly bad. That's what you know.

Starting point is 01:11:13 That's why I'm saying. This is just how people talk. I've never cared. Like I don't like it. It's just how people talk. I've never, I've never, ever picked up Katrina's phone and never had a desire to look at. Knowing damn well that the environment she works in, knowing damn well that we, I have, there's male friends that have messaged her

Starting point is 01:11:27 that I know damn well that wanna sleep with her. I don't wanna know, I don't care. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? She's in my bed every single night. You know what I'm saying? Well, it's the thing. I come home to her every day.

Starting point is 01:11:37 Like she sees me every day. Like those conversations to me, it's so small in the grand scheme of things when it comes to when you look at the big picture of the relationship that I Trust her as a whole even if I trust her as a whole even if small parts of conversations that would bother me or get to me. It's like that's why I don't even want to do Why do I want to put myself in that situation to even let it fuck with me when I know it's not gonna change the relationship?

Starting point is 01:12:02 The way I the way I look at it, unless somebody's pathological, right? Because there's always a situations where those people that are just straight up psychopaths or just sociopaths. But for most normal people, when someone gets to the point where they, if someone's doing that and they're cheating, there's been a lot of signs and signals that you ignored leading up to that.

Starting point is 01:12:20 And I don't mean signs and signals of them cheating. I mean, signs and signals that your relationship was not good. It's just very distant. Yeah, that you're just, you've been ignoring. I think a lot of times that's the case. I don't think every time. I'm sure there's cases where it's completely out of the blue, but many times, most times when you ask somebody,

Starting point is 01:12:38 you know, if you look back in time, were there signs that your relationship was getting the wrong direction? I told you guys, I mean, the last relationship I was in before Katrina, it was the first female ever to cheat on me. And you know, I was, people ask all the time, like, oh my God, were you devastated or this is that?

Starting point is 01:12:53 I said, no, were you angry? And I was like, well, maybe initially, like when I first got the news, like it was heavy and it pissed me off, I think I put a hole through my door. But like literally after I kind of got that out of my system, you know, I commonly actually called her until they come over, pick your shit up, you know, get out of my house and like that was it. And I was over it. And a lot of that, because from that moment

Starting point is 01:13:12 on, like the punching the wall was the feeling sorry for myself part, then the moment after that of calling her to come get herself in her own way, was the reflection part. What did I do in this relationship to deserve that or get that? And when I'm completely honest to myself, because most people can't, I didn't do anything to deserve this. Oh my God, I can't believe you did that. I would never do this to you. Well, I was very distant.

Starting point is 01:13:33 I was bearing myself into work. I wasn't there emotionally. I wasn't there physically a lot of the time. Like, you could tell that I was checked out in other ways. So she checked out in another way. So it's like, to me, it was, I got, you know, it's funny about that. Your ability to do that probably helped you get over

Starting point is 01:13:50 a lot better. Oh yeah. Somebody who didn't do that. Like if you weren't doing that, it would be painful for a long period of time. I never, I've never been somebody like that when a relationship ends where like I go through this depression for like three months or six months.

Starting point is 01:14:03 Like in fact, it's just like anything else. It's making a mistake. It's failing in a business. Anything else that we deal in life, this relationship failed. There's a part of me that owns part of that. No matter what, even if she cheated, it's not all her fault because she cheated. It's a partnership. It's a relationship. I own some part of that. Where is the lesson in this? What can I learn from this? How do I- You can carry that forward into the next one. And then the next one, you know. I own some part of that. Where is the lesson in this? What can I learn from this?

Starting point is 01:14:25 How do I- How do I can carry that forward into the next one? And then the next one, you know, I'ma heat the process. Honestly died before that happened. There was something that, you know what I mean? Again, you can look back. It's like your health. Like, when a major health issue pops up,

Starting point is 01:14:37 if you look back, usually it's not out of the blue. Usually it's like, oh well, I had years of heartburn, years of poor digestion, years of inflammation, like, you know, I just didn't, I was just ignoring the signs. Yeah. It's like when I got, you know, when I got divorced, and this was a long time coming, of course, and it was mutual, it was shortly after it was, it was shortly after that I met Jessica and that we really fell in love with each other. And I'm like, this is going to

Starting point is 01:15:03 look bad because she's, people people are gonna think that this is a girl that I was with before I left, which wasn't case at all. In fact, we barely knew each other, and it was, I think, a month after that we hung out, and then I realized, oh my God, I'm having feelings for someone. And the funny thing is, is I was kinda hiding it for a little while because I knew how it would sound, especially to my ex who were trying to do this amicably,

Starting point is 01:15:27 we're trying to do this mutually. And I don't want her to think I left because I met someone else because I felt like, oh, that's gonna complicate things. We share two children, this, that, and the other. So I didn't tell anybody. And then I think I was with you guys when this happened. My kid, my mom went to pick up my kids from school and she grabs my son's phone or something like that and she goes, there's these weird text messages on his phone. Remember

Starting point is 01:15:52 when I told you guys this? And I'm like, what? I'm like, send me the screenshot of it. And I'm thinking maybe from my phone, maybe we all connected on the, you know, what is it called? The cloud. And maybe he uploaded some of my texts. And then I got kind of worried because some of the messages that, you know, like, shit, that I'll send with people is like, oh my god, inappropriate for kids, right? So she sends them to me and they're like these flirting texts and they weren't mine. So I'm like, this is fucking weird. And I'm like, keep scrolling down and telling me what's on there. Well, it was, my, it was my ex. She had met someone and started dating someone shortly after as well. So that comes out and it made it a lot easier. Because then

Starting point is 01:16:31 I confronted her and I'm like, look, this came up on, you know, our son's phone. Obviously you need to be careful because, you know, luckily nothing in a prop it came through. You could tell through the text that wasn't someone that she'd been dating for a while. You could tell it was like the beginning of something. Right. And again, our marriage ended a good seven to ten years before we actually divorced. So it's not like both of us got out of a marriage and then jumped into any relationship. We were already basically, you know, roommates for a long time. Anyway. So seeing that, confronting with that, then it was like, cool, because now you

Starting point is 01:17:04 can know about my relationship, you can't come down on me about it. So like, you can share this now. Yeah, and it actually helped the process along, because had she not dated anybody, or had it been the flip, it would have been very easy to be not understanding. It would have been very easy to be like,

Starting point is 01:17:19 you were cheating on me this entire time, but both of us are like, okay, we're both in a similar situation. So we're gonna be cool about it, and I think us are like, okay, we're both in a similar situation. So we're gonna be cool about it. And I think it kind of worked out. And we're both still dating the people that we, we're talking to, so it was all good. All meant to be.

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