Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 799: Eating More to Lose Weight, When to Add Mini Cuts to a Bulk, Increasing Bone Density & MORE

Episode Date: June 23, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to hold yourself accountable & practi...ce what you preach, increasing calories to rev up metabolism, weightlifting and bone density and if implementing mini-cuts into a bulk can be useful. Where else do you get fermented foods? Brew Dr. and drinking kombucha for gut health. (4:01) Does Organifi have SUPER turmeric? The blender strategy update. (9:57) What is the guy’s least favorite house chore to do? (11:50) What are the best pranks the guys have played? Had played on them? (15:13) Could A’s changing times signal end to Billy Beane era? (22:42) Has Justin gone full “Silver Fox”?? The guy’s talk about the evolution of their hair and fashion styles. (28:05) Who is next? Audi names new leader after CEO arrested. (32:10) Why intelligence and integrity can be two separate things. (33:45) How the secret to a longer life is at your feet. The importance of foot strength for health and longevity. (35:56) Can you separate the psychological from the physical? How we haven’t even scratched the surface of the power of our minds. (42:34) #Quah question #1 – What are tips to hold yourself accountable & practice what you preach? (54:50) #Quah question #2 - Increasing calories to rev up metabolism. How can people overcome this fear?(1:08:47) #Quah question #3 – Can weightlifting affect bone density? (1:19:02) #Quah question #4 – Do you think implementing mini-cuts into a bulk can be useful? 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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, ob- with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this special edition of Mind, pop! Woo! We got Adam's mom in the house. Mama Schaefer's here. Call her Mama Schaefer, for only a few more running this episode. She said it was really tough the whole time to not chime in.
Starting point is 00:00:27 I can see where you get your, your, your, your, my eggs from a mouth. Yeah, her mouth was quivered. She looks way too young to be your mom, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop flirting with her. She's engaged.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It's a, oh really sorry. So for the first 51 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. We start off by actually mentioning the delicious super berry flavor of brew doctor. By the way, there are 100% raw, organic, non-GMO, gluten-free, vegan. It's a probiotic beverage.
Starting point is 00:00:56 You can find them at Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, New Seasons, Kroger's Sprouts, and Most Coccos. Most Coccos. Most Coccos. Most Coccos. A little bit. Most cockos. Most cockos. A little bit of a Freudian. Hey, what the hell?
Starting point is 00:01:08 It tastes really good though. We talk about cockos. We talk about, it's better than going in your mouth, Adam. Hey, we talked about Adam's Organified
Starting point is 00:01:17 Tumoric Blender Bleaching Update. I call bullshit. It's not working. The sun is not taking out this. That's some strong Come on guys. We're looking at you for answers dude. I'm telling you could be organify though It's on another level that shit's real man right from the anti-inflammatory Maybe that works for all the fake tumorictites out there, but or can't find the real
Starting point is 00:01:34 So real staining kind we are sponsored by organify if you go to organify.com Ford slash mine pump and enter the code mine pump you get 20% off Then we talked about some pranks, like the time somebody pooped in Justin's car. That asshole, I still remember. I feel like Justin did that and then tried to blame it on somebody. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:01:52 You know man, I didn't take it to that level. He could have made some. He's like an angry, angry, extravagant animal in his room. Because we talk about the Audi Chief Executive being arrested for diesel gate. We talked about your feet, shenanigans, and your health,
Starting point is 00:02:06 multiple personality disorder and the power of the mind. Then we get into the questions. First question was, you know, as a trainer, it can be tough to practice what you preach. What are some tips that we have to hold yourself accountable to keep you accountable for what you teach? Great segment in this episode. The next question was, we talked about increasing calories to
Starting point is 00:02:29 rev up your metabolism, but a lot of people don't want to eat more because they're afraid of gaining body fat. What can we tell our clients or what can we tell ourselves when going through that process? The next question was this particular individual's mom, a 60 years old, and has osteopenia and started lifting weights but their doctor or their nurse told him not to let's wait for some reason their idiots.
Starting point is 00:02:53 We need to talk about this. We actually mentioned prime and prime pro in this segment of that episode. You can find those programs at mindpumpmedia.com. The final question, is it beneficial to implement cuts or mini cuts into a bulk? So let's say you're trying to gain muscle mass and you're eating more calories. Is it smart to have a day or two or a week
Starting point is 00:03:13 where you actually cut your calories? Can that actually help you build muscle? It's actually gonna shock you that segment of this episode. Also, this month, maps anywhere is half off, all month long, 50% off. Maps anywhere is our program that utilizes almost no equipment. All you need are bands. Literally do it anywhere.
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Starting point is 00:03:51 You can find all those programs, including 50% off maps anywhere at mindpumpmedia.com. Get some. So Adam, I want to ask you about the first time you had sex. Let's talk about. It is. You would go there right away with my mom sitting in the house or sitting in the studio. He's got his mom in the studio.
Starting point is 00:04:12 You could even warm up. You go right for the show. Mama Schaefer is in the studio today. So if I'm a little PC, that might be why this is the this is the most nervous I've been in 800 episodes I've never been so nervous to do our show except for my mom's I feel like I'm gonna get like the daggers every time I do this is excellent find out real quick why I'm afraid of them latino women Do you get that crazy streak in the way to frying pan put you in your place, you know man? This um this come butchered which flavor is this that Taylor brought us this is the new flavor Do this the berry one is the one with the elderberry. I like this one better than that apple tasty. Yeah, it's called super berry Right, I like it because it's a taste good
Starting point is 00:05:03 Organic you know that Taylor's working on us getting a keg here? A keg? A wig of Brew Doctor? So by the end of this week, did you know that Doug? Did you know that was coming? He mentioned it. So yeah, it's supposed to be coming by the end of this week and we're gonna run two taps on the keg orator.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Is that what it's called? Is it keg orator? Is that the right, how do you say that? I think that sounds good. I feel like that was someone. I think that was Doug's nickname in college Kagerator. Yeah In college now hey how about how about when we did the memes in Santa Cruz
Starting point is 00:05:33 Or when we were just up at the what should we call it? Not Santa Cruz? Bahar on you. Yeah when we were messing with each other and doing all the shit. Doug's was the best But you had you had to be like a true listener since day one to really get it because people are DMing like yeah Cuz his had a picture of it was an ice pick Psychopath well first it was a picture of like a like a Asian school girl Yeah, and that's just cuz he lived in Japan for a long time Oh, yeah, about that all the time not not as Asian, you know fetish No, no, nothing to do that. Yeah, there's nothing about the. What was it?
Starting point is 00:06:05 What are those machines called the? The panty. Yeah, the panty machines inside the event machines. Yes. In Japan. It's a real thing. I never saw one though. Oh, you never saw it. Never saw one. No, but you wanted to a show art. Yeah. What a great investment. Hey, how do you Google that? What do you? What do you Google? You can do women's underwear? I wouldn't do that if I were you. Oh, no, I think that'll show up on your history forever. Yeah. It's a business guy. So yeah, then he had a shiv, which looks like an ice pick,
Starting point is 00:06:32 but people don't know that there's a joke about that. It's because Doug is easily the most dangerous member of the Mind Plum crew. For sure. He's the first guy to make a shiv. He's gonna, yeah, he'll kill people. So we keep him happy. We tried to at least.
Starting point is 00:06:45 What was the other one? So there was the, there was those two, then there was, what else was on that meme? Oh, the kombucha. Oh yeah, cause he bruised kombucha. And then podcasting equipment. Yeah, that's right. Yours was ruthless.
Starting point is 00:06:57 Yeah, I don't know. The second one. I thought Justin's the best. Rogaine, yeah, mind your cheese and a plunger. I mean Doesn't get any more accords than that. I guess it it's up to you It had like painted toilets like I was hoping for that. You're gonna go in go in I just how do you find that you know what I mean? How do you find painted? Oh you like yeah? Like the right way to do I'm seriously tripping over the taste of this kombucha
Starting point is 00:07:19 This has to be the best one that I've had. Yeah, don't they have they had an apple one So they also I think I believe he was telling me they're making it in cans. Yes, so you can take it with you to the beach and, you know, and like, because, you know, some of these beaches, they don't allow like the, the bottles to go down there. I don't think any beach does, do they? I don't think so. I think that's a pretty universal thing.
Starting point is 00:07:39 You can't have glass on the beach. You have no beaches. Yeah, so now you can have some kombucha while you're enjoying the sun. Yeah. A lot of people don't realize, I mean, I have to say this, kombucha is a fermented tea drink. If you're trying to get more fermented foods in your diet, because of the beneficial bacteria, you know, we humans have eaten fermented foods for thousands of years.
Starting point is 00:08:02 It's present in almost every ancient culture, and it's probably an important part of overall health. And so it's just an easy way to do it nowadays. Otherwise, where else do you get fermented food, right? Yoga, but then if you get yogurt, you're probably getting a bunch of crap. Like a real yogurt. Yeah, real yogurt is a nice sourcrout. Yeah, sourcrout.
Starting point is 00:08:22 How many things do you put sourcrout on? Yeah, I don't know too many people ate a lot of sourcrout. Cumbuche is cool because you just buy it and drink it and if you have problems pooping just then. Now when you had Dr. Ruscio- It's not a problem, I'm just gonna put it out there. When you had Dr. Ruscio on the show, didn't you guys go on the YouTube and talk a little bit about Buche? Did you guys talk about it? We just talked about the benefits of fermented foods
Starting point is 00:08:46 and he didn't mention how kombucha is a- Because I thought I asked him, I thought I asked him what, how much he recommended that you drink it. Do you remember? No, I'm assuming that the answer's gonna be a depends. Of course. I don't think consuming anything too much
Starting point is 00:09:01 is gonna be beneficial. I know for me, if I have a bottle of kombucha every few days, every two days or so, it seems to be the right amount. If I have like one a day or two a day, then I actually will start to bother. You know what I don't get from this? You know how some of them,
Starting point is 00:09:15 they have like a really thick film across, it's like the slime. Oh yeah, you know. Parts of the scoby. Yeah, part of the scoby. It's called scoby. Yeah, scoby. It's nice and smooth, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah, little scoby starts to develop in a lot of these bottles of kombucha. Yeah, I don't know that in this one, which is great. No, they use a scoby to make it, but then there's no scoby in there. It's also one of the lowest in sugar too, right? Yeah, you know, they have to use sugar because that's what ferments.
Starting point is 00:09:41 That's what the bacteria feeds off of. So it's impossible to eat? It's impossible to do with that. Of course, it's just like any alcohol. Like, you know what I mean? Alcohol is made by fermenting sugar. Mm-hmm. Sorry, I'm so good.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Sorry. You're so new every single day. Hey, I want to ask you, dude, about your, you had five people message you saying, if you put your turmeric stained blender in the sun, how would bleach out the, or get rid of the trend with this yet? Did that work?
Starting point is 00:10:07 We just did it. It didn't work. It didn't work? Oh no. So I don't know if organifies just got like super turmeric. And so it stains the shit out of the blender to where there's no way for me to clean this out, but we just did it yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:22 And I told Katrina, well, did you make sure it was like directly in the sunlight or did it get shaded? And so we went through like the whole checklist. So it's there again today. So I'm not, I haven't fully abandoned this strategy because everybody says that supposedly, I mean, I must have got 10 DMs by today now.
Starting point is 00:10:35 They're, they kept coming. People still saying that. Yeah, everybody is telling me that if your blender gets stained with turmeric, you can put it out in the sun. The sun will naturally bleach it back to its normal color. Here's what I recommend, baking soda or lemon or white vinegar as a mild bleach, that's what I recommend. Wonder if I do all of the above.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I wonder if I... Bleach vinegar, that'll explode. I just don't feel good about putting bleach in my blender. Why not? I don't know. I don't know, it just doesn't feel like I should do that. You never bleach things that you've used it. You never bleach your sponges and wash your dishes on. I don't bleach it. That's why you don't know. It just doesn't feel like I should do that. You never bleach things that you used it You never bled you don't bleach your like your sponges. I don't I don't I don't believe that's why you don't wash dishes
Starting point is 00:11:12 Whatever dude, you were single for like six months bro. You know, you know, it dishes were like for like six months That's still wash dishes. Do you yeah? I do I do the dishes. You didn't just do that for Instagram. No, we do a trade me and Jessica Sexual favor every time she does it. Yeah, it's totally worth it the dishes. You didn't just do that for Instagram? No, we do a trade, me and Jessica. We do a trade. Sexual favor, it's pretty much what she does. Yeah, it's totally worth it. And an apron with a shirt off. Uh-huh, yep. Yep, interesting. You know, I think of all the house duties.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I do anything for sex. I do, I do. We know that, we know that. All the house duties, dishes are my least favorite. Dishes are the most meditative. I disagree. Folding laundry is more meditative to me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Folding laundry is also. Yeah. Folding laundry. Let me tell you, okay, I'm gonna change your mind right now. Okay. Here's why dishes are so meditative. It follows me on loud, I wanna do dishes. Okay, so folding, anything-
Starting point is 00:11:56 Katrina's gonna love you. Anything you do that requires low skill can be meditative because you can get into a rhythm and you can get into your zone and become very present and think and just what I or just be present. The water in washing dishes is what helps do that. The feeling of the water on your hands can because it's a sensation can help make you more present,
Starting point is 00:12:17 put headphones on and listen to music while you do it as well. Give that a shot. I'll be zen about it, bro. You don't do your dishes. I do, yeah. Oh, you do too. Yeah, but like what it makes've given it a shot. I've be zen about it, bro. Yeah. Do you do you don't do your dishes? I do. Oh, you do too. Yeah, but like what do make me feel like a no, no, no, no, no, all the time. So calm down. Yeah. Like I we're definitely better guys. I tried like honestly, I have to like try to to make sure like I'm like, Oh, shit, I gotta do that. Like something to
Starting point is 00:12:39 help out. You know, like I saw you said she would she would just want me to do the floors because her thing is like, the floors are dirty and any kind of dirt comes in from outside, she freaks out. So for me, it's like the countertops. Like I can't stand chaotic clutter everywhere. So I'm always like, that's my thing. Like I wanna get rid of that shit. So the dishes are like an afterthought to me.
Starting point is 00:13:03 So I'm always like checking myself like, oh fuck I should probably. So you have to like an afterthought to me. So I'm always like checking myself like, oh fuck I should part with you. So you have to do a lot of stuff in the house because I'll tell you why. First off, all of our girls work. So it's like they work too, right? So we don't, we can't really say, hey I work, you can't say that.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Number two, when's the last time a burglar came in, you had to defend everybody. Exactly. So we're worthless. So you got to clean or you can have... I know, there's a guy that came in the house next door and I went and checked it out. So you don't have to do shit then, you should tell your wife, like, I don't have to do anything for at least a couple of months.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Yeah, I did that exactly for the year. Because I defended the house. I did. What is your least favorite house chore around the house to do or not do? Mmm. God, what's my least favorite? Adishies are mine, man. I don't like dishes. They're bad. Yeah. are mine man. I don't like it. It's really yeah
Starting point is 00:13:46 I don't like dishes. I don't mind dishes. I don't mind cleaning the floors making beds It's not that big of a deal probably cleaning bathrooms like toilets and stuff like that. Do you even do that? Nope? You don't know we hired somebody for that. Yeah, you have you have house cleaners don't you? I have someone who comes I know I finally do I know you just now Got into this world just got in this world the last couple months. Oh, what's that? Yeah, how's that been? Oh so nice to come in and it's like Yeah, everything is like smells like chemical pretty. Yeah, so how many how many months in are you right now? Probably four. I want to say oh, so you're still in the honeymoon phase Yeah, everybody says like you know
Starting point is 00:14:23 It's come in they try real hard to win your business and they do everything awesome and then they start slacking on you. That's what everybody's saying. That's, yeah. You gotta start hiding your money. Yeah. Did you guys hire somebody you knew
Starting point is 00:14:35 or did you, was it a recommendation just for some? It was a recommendation from one of Courtney's friends. I had a friend, I had this friend that used to work out on my gem, right? This woman, and she hired this lady to clean her house. I had a friend, I had this friend that used to work out on my gym, right, this woman. And she hired this lady to clean her house. And this woman was extremely thorough. So she said she could, she took pictures.
Starting point is 00:14:53 She came home one day and her sex toys were lined up on her drawer. Oh wow. Yeah, like standing up all like she's like, she cleaned everything. And she's like, yeah. Did I ever, that ever that's like really you know going the extra step? Did I ever tell you guys the the astro glide prank that I played on my boy? No, oh, dude So I'll never forget that thought I should have this story
Starting point is 00:15:16 Astro glide prank on your boy. Yeah, all right. Well, I'm proud of you for for bringing this story in with your mom It's okay. It's not that bad for her. So this was, so remember I told you guys this before that every year we used to go up to Trinity for like 10 days, we go camping and everything, right? Yeah. So this year my buddy Mark, you guys know Mark, talked about Mark before.
Starting point is 00:15:40 This is the friends that I go camping with. These are like childhood friends. And so I was bringing him to this camping trip for the first time and kind of introducing those friends, whatever. And he had to go back home early. Well, when he went back home two days earlier than when we left the campsite,
Starting point is 00:15:55 my wallet was in his car. And so he lived in Sacramento at the time and we had to come down through Sacramento. And I'm pulling the boat. So I have my back then, I had my lift at Chevy. I'm pulling the boat. So I have my back then, I had my lifted Chevy, I'm pulling the boat and Mark lives downtown Sacramento and he's got my wallet. And I'm driving in and I'm asking him, I'm like, hey, could you meet me like at a freeway
Starting point is 00:16:15 exit or something like that so I could just pull off and get it from you and he's like, oh no, we got to go to this party. It'll, I'll leave my doors unlocked in the back, just come and get it. I'm like, bro, I've got the boat and he's downtown. So I, I've been to his house a bunch of times. So I know, oh, I know it's going to be a real pain in the ass just to get in and out of there. And he's like, oh, no, we got to go to this party and this and that. I'm like, dude, I'm only like 30 minutes away.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Can you just wait? And he was like, nah, and he hung up the phone. He left me and he left the door. So I was pissed, right? So I'm fucking hell of a man like heading into that. And we get, we get to the, we get to his house and he collects DVDs like I do. So I did a bunch of different pranks, right? So I'm fucking hell of a man like heading into that and we get we get to the we get to his house and he collects DVDs Like I do so I did a bunch of different pranks, right? So he's in it sacrameno. It's July so it's like 110 degrees
Starting point is 00:16:51 So I go I crank his heater up to this highs it goes And so I turn I turn his heaters on right I go hide all of his TV remotes I take one shoe of all of his dress shoes. I'm so pissed about this whole thing. Did write this. I did go on because I was so mad. I took all of his DVDs. I took them all out, scattered them. And then you spent time. Yeah, I did.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You see how mad I was. It was really mad. You put them all in the wrong sleeve. You made me pull up, but yes, the wrong sleeve on this that prank, by the way, ended up being the best prank of all of them because that lasted like five years. Of course, you're gonna pull out like, I want to watch, come back though.
Starting point is 00:17:24 So he's just like going for the random, like it's like random movie hour, I guess he just never knows. So what ended up happening, he told me this years later, he says, because he was so angry about all of this stuff. It took us a while before we could laugh about it. You know, it was like a year later
Starting point is 00:17:37 before we could joke about it and stuff. And he goes, that DVD thing you did to me screwed me for literally for years because it got to the point where it's like, you want to watch a movie and he has like 500 DVDs. So to you want specifically that movie and then you have no idea which one it could possibly be in, he says, I would spend a half hour trying to find it and then finally just forget it. I'll just watch whatever's in this case. That one really pissed that one really pissed.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Turner and Hoot again. Yeah. The last prank that I got on him that it didn't it didn't come around until probably about a month later I guess until he used his astro glide but we took the astro glide and we dumped it out and put water back in it instead of astro. Oh, so mood killer. Yeah, that's, that's my astro glide prank. I got a buddy I got a buddy I switched out the Vaseline with or mixed in some what's it called? Oh, no, I see hot. No, Vicks Vicks vapor
Starting point is 00:18:36 I want to go into the deep story about You say you reach for the Vaseline and you end up with some, you know, some methylated. Oh my God. I see how it would have been this death. Yeah, yeah. I feel like a good prank is a prank that gets somebody and it continues to get somebody for a long time and it doesn't destroy anything. Like they like can see, they give up and they're like, oh, okay, this is how things are going to be for a while.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Right. I think those are great prank. I like pranks, but the problem with them is that they start to, they progress and they're like, oh, cases, how things are gonna be for a while. Right. I think those are great pranks. I like pranks, but the problem with them is that they start to, they progress and they start to get worse. And I'm the kind of person like, I don't do pranks on people because I don't like being pranked myself. So I'm like, and I'm cool, I'm pretty cool with that kind of stuff. But I gotta be prepared for the backlash.
Starting point is 00:19:20 That's it, and I know that I'll amp it up, and then they're gonna amp it up and we'll amp it up. And before you know it, you know, it's gonna be amp it up and then they're gonna amp it up and we'll amp it up and before you know it You know, I'll be like I shaved your head while you're sleeping. Oh, yeah What normally happens is so many destroys something or breaks like takes it to a level or it's like dump in your car It's a God happened to me what in your car? So we should in your car in the car because there's like a
Starting point is 00:19:41 New serve that nothing I peen on the guy's tires. Like, I got back from the bars drunk. I thought it'd be hilarious to like, you know, we're peeing, we're peeing like, you know, on the grass like in front of the dorms. And so I'm peeing on the guy's tires, my friend. I was like, haha, it was like a totally piece of crap car, right? And so he apparently saw me through the window
Starting point is 00:20:07 in that night and then the next morning, I found like a turd in my front seat. Yeah. So how did he get in there? Yeah, how did he get in there? Dude, he took a hover dump like over the sunroof? He's sunroof. But like that took a lot of effort.
Starting point is 00:20:25 You know what I mean? And I aw, wow. Yeah, that was, could you imagine? Good to talk to him for a while. You imagine getting caught doing that prank by the cops trying to explain that, what are you doing? No, no, it's a joke.
Starting point is 00:20:36 It's a joke. Dude, how man. I was like that escalated quickly. Yeah, I was so mad. It was a good healthy one though, huh? Fully formed. It was, yeah, it was a nice pile. Yeah, what, oh, in a car?
Starting point is 00:20:46 Would you do a car? Yeah, I just got rid of it. Just like, just like, I'm done with this car, dude. Just abandon your car. It was a piece of shit, you know what I'm saying? I was gonna say, tell me you were driving a bomb, no, no, no, I was a Tursal. It was like a little piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I ended up buying a Jeep after that. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is terrible. I didn't care to me. But like, dude, his car was the same. It was like a piece of shit. And we even, like, we took spray paint and we painted flames on it
Starting point is 00:21:12 and made it all ironically horrible, you know? Like it was a race car and stuff. And then he goes and did that. That was dirty. I saw an upper decker, a real upper decker. I didn't even know people actually did that in real life. Is that when you, is that when you shit in the sink or when you shit in the upper part? No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:21:27 You poop in the tank because people don't know it at it's there and they could have flushed the toilet and shit water fills up your toilet and you can't figure it out. And the only way to get it out is you have to go in and clean the tank by hand. Yeah. Yeah, cause you keep flushing in. That's disgusting. It's horrible. Yeah, it's cold in the upper deck. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you keep flushing in.
Starting point is 00:21:45 That's disgusting. It's horrible. Yeah, it's cold enough for Ducker. It's terrible. I don't think girls prank each other like, I don't think girls do that. No, they don't do terrible, terrible things. I had another buddy who passed out.
Starting point is 00:21:57 And so they shaved his eyebrows. I thought that would be hilarious. You know what I mean? That is hilarious. It is funny. You know why it's funny? Cause it took my buddy. It's like an alien for like months. You know, like you? Like, this is hilarious. It is funny. You know why it's funny? Because it took my buddy. It's like an alien for like months.
Starting point is 00:22:07 You know, like, you can't help it. This isn't growing very fast at all. It's ticked. It's fucked up. It took my buddy like 20 minutes to figure out what was wrong with the reflection. He's looking at the mirror and he keeps, what the fuck is wrong with my face? I can't figure it out. Imagine you wake up with no eyebrow.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Oh. You might not notice that first. Why do I look weird? So what's the mood? You just gotta draw it on. No, you just look surprised all the time. Oh yeah. It's terrible.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah, those are the kinds of prank fun you want. It was about a month or two ago that we talked. We got in the first time I think we started talking about sports. We brought up the movie Moneyball. Did you ever get a chance to go watch that we talked, we got in the first time I think we started talking about sports, we brought up the movie, Money Ball. Did you ever get a chance to go watch that, so? Which one? Money Ball. No, I really want you to watch it
Starting point is 00:22:53 because this story wouldn't have to. I probably the worst person to tell to do something. I don't know what it is, I just, yeah, I know. If I don't, I try to trick you most of the time. No, you gotta do this through like a magazine or like some like article out on the table and then some, oh, I saw this article. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Yeah. So I know I totally planted it there. Just invite me over and play it and then I'll watch it. Yeah. Maybe. So what's going on is the guy that whole movie is about is Billy Bean. Billy Bean is famous in the sports world, especially in the baseball world, because he was the beginning of this new era of really breaking down the analytics of players that
Starting point is 00:23:31 were coming in. For example, he figured out like, okay, with a smaller budget, we would go by players that nobody knows who they are. But if I break down like mathematically, how often this guy gets on base, I could put him in this role or I break down how often this guy hits home. Oh, analytic based. Yes. And he would get rid of players that were peaking and they're most valuable.
Starting point is 00:23:54 So he could actually then now reinvest into the team. And so he would like, it was, it's kind of ruthless, but it's very mathematical and it's very logical. It sounds like a business. It's brilliant. It is. It's absolutely brilliant. It's brilliant. It's a brilliant, it's very mathematical and it's very logical. It sounds like a business. It's brilliant. It is. It's absolutely brilliant. It's been killing it with it.
Starting point is 00:24:07 It's a world series. It's yeah, right. For as if you look at a franchise as a business model, it's mostly owners and people that are dealing with the money do, the athletics are one of the most profitable teams in sports and have been since he's arrived. Now because of that, they locked him up for years,
Starting point is 00:24:26 like he's athletic. His contract is up in one year. Oh wow. He flirted for a minute for going to the Boston Red Sox, right? And then they ended up adopting his system and winning. That's when they locked to they ended up locking him up for, I mean, 10 or 15 years. I don't remember how long the contract was. And that contract is up in a year. So the reason why I'm bringing this up right now is when you have big time people like that, they normally sign their new contract well before a year. So because it's hit the one year mark and there's been no conversation on it. Now the big rumor all is that he's gone for sure.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And so the question, right. So in sports right now, this is like a big deal. It's a really big deal. Because this guy, how much of these guys typically get paid, are they paid as much as players? Oh, no, they're not paid as much as a superstar player, but he makes good money.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Now, Billy Bean also negotiated part of the A, so he has part ownership of them in his contract. So he makes a lot of money, which means they're gonna have to, how's he gonna, how's that gonna work if he works for another team? They'll have to buy them out. They have to, right? They have to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Because it would be conflict of interest for him to go for another team and be doing that. Yeah, and like, how do they work that out as far as evaluating the worth, you know, and like, because they'd have to like, project it out, like at least what, 10 years or something. Well, the rumor is that, I mean, he's, he's so sought after that he could pretty much get a job anywhere and name his price for his position. So he'll get the top dollar for whatever
Starting point is 00:25:50 he's getting paid for his position for any team because he's been handcuffed this entire team. They have only a lot like, there's the Yankees, the Dodgers, the Giants, like all your big name teams, like they spend money. Like they they they'll go out and buy a big player if they feel like even though They they still are they use analytics, but they still will go buy big names. Well, I speculate that he would probably want to go to a team That's like hasn't like hasn't been shitty just like so we can show him so we can show yeah You can show a system like it has been proof if I was Billy bean and I wanted to like go somewhere else I wouldn't want to go somewhere where it was like that make sense because then you're really building a legacy Yeah, he's kind of built one already. He's already fans. Yeah, he has yeah, he's already
Starting point is 00:26:31 But I mean imagine if you did it again Yeah, I don't think I think it's just a lot of work I mean, I don't know the guy person so we're obviously we're we're totally speculated But I don't think that he cared I think what would get him more is actually staying in the Bay area Being out like so the rumor is a dance. There's a chance he go to the giants, right? So, damn it. If they need any help, that's what's exciting. That's what's exciting.
Starting point is 00:26:51 Right, right. That a team like the giants will pick him up with, you know, with the already the pieces that we have in place. And so we might move in that direction. So I'm excited that that's the possible that might happen. Regardless if the giants get him or not, it's big news in sports right now to see where this guy ends up landing because of what he was what he's been able to do with one of the smallest. Well, doesn't the Giants budgets?
Starting point is 00:27:13 Well, the Giants has got some superstars, right? But aren't they kind of known for playing with that? Yeah, we developed a lot of our players. So that's they so during the Bruce Bochi era, you know, who's known as like a player's coach, they know some stuff. They I think it's a Red Throw right
Starting point is 00:27:31 It's my buster Posey. He was free. You know, they developed it. Buster Posey, he's Son of a bitch We'll Clark, you know, he's awesome. No, he's a playboy. That's old. You caught me. I just got gonna know what I'm saying. I don't say that. I just don't.
Starting point is 00:27:47 You're the key is those, you know, just in the end with an advocate cocky and not to keep going. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, yeah, you know what, he scored that three pointer. That was crazy.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Oh, shit, we're talking baseball. You've been the most touchdowns. Anyway, are you, are you your mind-league team? You look like your tan, dude. You know what, I don't know where, while we were out this last weekend for the graduation.
Starting point is 00:28:07 So I was outside. I got like a farmer's tan going on now. Uh huh. Not like Justin over here. He already lost his color. No, he went back to white. Yeah, he was at red for a while. He went red to like this lighter white to back to white.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I like it. I'm just ready. Clear. I will say this, Justin, your hair is amazing. It is. It's like a, it's almost all silver now, you know what I mean? It's getting there. What was your natural hair color?
Starting point is 00:28:32 It was like, it was dark brown, but I mean at one point, it was like almost black. Really? Yeah, well I went to a terrible, weird, no actually, I look awesome in black hair. Did you really? Yeah, it looked awesome. Yeah, I looked awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Thank you very much. Yeah, whatever, like you don't know anything. No, like, that look awesome in black hair, dude. Did you really? Yeah, I looked awesome. Yeah. Well, I looked awesome. Thank you very much. Yeah, whatever. Like, you don't know anything. No, like, that was when I used to do the pompadour thing. And I was like, I thought I was like, all rockability, you know? Like, that was my hair. Get some of my hair.
Starting point is 00:28:55 Get some of my hair. Yeah, a little soul patch and then grease my hair back. But yeah, I went through like a bunch of phases of my hair. It was weird. Like, when I was younger, it was blonde and it was straight. And so it looked like a mop. And I looked like a total surfer kid. And then I went from that to this weird phase when I hit puberty
Starting point is 00:29:12 where it was like, it got curly. And it was like light brown. And then after that, it got kind of straight and wavy. And then it was darker. It's like this weird evolution. Did I went through like all the different things? How about the picture he posted on Silver? Well, he was wearing the exact same outfit as you.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Oh my God, that was junior high too. I was like, but in your defense though, and I've been saying this for a while now, like right now the things that are becoming popular again, like I remember doing all this in junior high in early years of high school, like that, and some of these trends I love, like the tall socks, like that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Like that was a total fat. That does happen because it's like, I don't have to change the circle. Yeah, you're starting to look back at style. Yeah, it's like a broken clock, you know what I mean? I mean, I've never changed. Yeah, I proved it. But you know, the gray hair looks good.
Starting point is 00:29:58 And it's, you know, back in the day, men used to color their hair to look white and gray. Really? Yeah, powdered wigs, dude. That was a big thing back in the day, men used to color their hair to look white and gray. Really? Yeah, powdered wigs, dude. That was a big thing back in the day. Because it made you look, you know, more indistinguishable and whatever. It was a big thing, that could be. Was that because of syphilis or something?
Starting point is 00:30:15 What? Yeah, it was because of something like where your hair fell out. I don't know what it was, some kind of SDD. Look it up, Doug. I'm not bullshit. Really? Yes, that was like the start of why they started of STD. Look it up, Doug. I'm not bullshitting. Really? Yes, that was like the start of why they started wearing wigs and then it would be popular.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Yeah, but the white hair was a big thing. Like having white hair. Yeah, they started because of syphilis. That's gonna be hilarious. I've never heard of it. Seriously, yeah. Pull that up. That's a random fact.
Starting point is 00:30:38 But bald, bald and or gray hair for many ancient cultures were sought after. It was, in fact, some cultures would shave the top of their head to look like they were bald on the top. and or great hair for many ancient cultures were sought after. In fact, some cultures would shave the top of their head to look like they were bald on the top. And I think it was some Asian cultures would do that where they would shave the top to make it look like. I look like you're full of more wisdom, right?
Starting point is 00:30:56 It's because it's true. The older you guys. I would totally shave my head, but I've got a really nice round head, but I have psoriasis all over it now, so it would look all weird. You would look like the alien continents. You know, you would look like the alien globe.
Starting point is 00:31:10 What was that show that TV series where one dude was an alien, there were cops. One guy was an alien, one guy wasn't, and the alien people like drinking sour milk, remember that? Oh my God. Oh my God. So you'd look like that guy. Because remember their skin was kind of like,
Starting point is 00:31:26 it was like McAle Gobercho. I caught his head everywhere. I saw you. I saw you. Look at Justin's right. Yeah. Yeah. Syphilis by 1580, the STD had become the worst epidemic
Starting point is 00:31:38 to strike Europe since the black plague. Wow. So. Oh, which bombs. So they got open-sores, nasty rashes, blind-list, dementia, and patchy hair loss. God, you imagine that? Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Because you were dirty, you know what I mean? What a price to pay. You gotta keep it in your pants, yeah. What a price to pay. Who knows, though? But back then life was probably pretty tough, so you're like, fuck it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:32:04 I was wearing a wig. Just roll the dice and see what happens Dude, what were you saying about the Audi? C.E.O. About this no he he just got popped for I guess being tied into you know that whole conspiracy or will not conspiracy The whole diesel thing they took down the diesel Yeah, yeah, jail they manipulated the software. Yeah, so he's he's in jail jail So because he's connected
Starting point is 00:32:25 He's tied in with that whole like shenanigan like he knew it was going on They didn't just now surface now. No, I think they've been I think that's been investigated. Yeah Since that dirty money thing or I think that probably yeah, prop put more pressure I'm sure what's it what's he looking at obviously they haven't since since and man I don't know but going jail though, huh? That's crazy. What's he looking at? Obviously they haven't sentenced him, man. I don't know, but going through. Jail though, huh? That's crazy. Yeah, that's...
Starting point is 00:32:49 How old though? I mean, this is, this brings me back to my whole bill Cosby theory. You know, some of these guys might give up. Give up the rest. Say fuck it. Yeah, no, I'm serious. Like, I mean, I know people now that are in there six... Seven years!
Starting point is 00:33:00 Oh, wow. Wow! There you go. You know, this is what... Can I tell you what irritates me a little bit about this? Not that he's getting jail time. Well, that's the VW exec, the Audi one. Oh, the Audi one.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Yeah, he just recently got sent to jail. But even that was just December of 2017. Yeah. That was just not that long ago. You know, it makes me mad about that. Right above it, the top one's Audi. Barely anybody went to jail for that whole, like, you know, the whole banking fiasco that we had in 2000, what was that?
Starting point is 00:33:28 One of the biggest gangster moves there. Yeah, and instead they got money. They got taxpayer money. That's what it tastes like out of it. Just throwing those fuckers in jail too. Wow, this is crazy. Yeah, they're all going down. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Did you guys check out the documentary, the evil genius one that I was telling you guys about? No, it was just, you told me the stairway, right? Yeah, the stairway is the next one that I'm gonna be watching that next. Oh, you haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen the stairway one yet. Because it recommended that one after I watched the Evil Genius one. I've heard nothing but good stuff about that one, too.
Starting point is 00:33:56 It's like, it really has a lot of twists. You know, like, you think you know. Like, it's kind of like making a murder. You don't really know at the end of the day, like is he guilty? Is he not guilty? I mean, you could go either way. It's fascinating to me how unique we all are as humans,
Starting point is 00:34:11 how we have certain things that like you can be an absolute genius, but then you can have like no common sense. Like there's intelligence and integrity can be totally two separate things. Some of the people with the worst, in fact, sometimes being highly intelligent makes you believe that you can, you don't need to of the people with the worst, in fact, sometimes being highly intelligent makes you believe that you can, you don't need to have to say leadism. Yeah, or you know better than people,
Starting point is 00:34:31 or I'm so smart that I can get away with whatever, or you're narcissistic because of it. And so it actually may fuel lack of integrity. And we see that, some of the people that rip. I wonder if that's more common than not. I wonder if it's more common when you get to, like that level of an people that rip. I wonder if that's more common than not. I wonder if it's more common when you get to that level of an IQ that because you're that way, you're more tempted to manipulate
Starting point is 00:34:51 and to take advantage of others. Therefore, there's a higher percentage of. I feel like they're easier, they get more frustrated with people, because like they assume everybody's gonna understand on their level and then it's like, their communication skills are probably not as...
Starting point is 00:35:07 Intelligence is actually correlated with mental dysfunction, lots of different mental issues. It's actually strongly correlated. And it's, we're not quite sure why. I mean, it's correlated with depression, anxiety, schizophrenia, other types of learning challenges or whatever, like dyslexia and all that stuff. And they think it might be, if you're considered intelligent, right, it means that you're
Starting point is 00:35:32 smarter than the average person because humans are intelligent species, but if you're an intelligent human, compared to your peers, your brain probably processes a little differently or you think a little differently, which increases the likelihood that you may have dysfunction as well. I'm saying so, there's always that kind of stuff. It's kind of weird. Dude, I was reading this article on, this is an article that was just published today
Starting point is 00:35:58 and it says, how the secret to a longer life is at your feet. They're actually starting to write articles about how important foot strength is for longevity. You know, it's funny how far we made it into fitness and not like really paying any attention to that. Looking back now, the amount of knowledge that we've accumulated just in the last three and a half four years and hanging out with brink and really putting a lot of focus and emphasis on my feet. And it's crazy now, if I meet somebody
Starting point is 00:36:28 and I'm assessing them or I'm helping them out with anything mechanically with them, they have any aches, pains, anything at all, any part of their body, the very first place now that I address is your foot, like I was looking at your feet. And I can't believe that that was something that I was missing for so many years
Starting point is 00:36:44 because nobody ever really talked about. Well, so there was a study in 2009. So it was not that long ago, I mean, sure, it's a little while ago, maybe nine years ago, but that's still not that long ago. That was published in the Journal of Clinical Biomechanics that showed that the weaker certain muscles were, the more likely people were to have a fall
Starting point is 00:37:04 and to have injury. And then in 2015, in the British Journal of Sports Medicine, they started referring to the foot core. So we know of the core muscles of the midsection, but they also talk about the core muscles of the foot, which are, if you think of the foot, if you were to look at a foot and imagine it to be like your torso, the muscles in the middle of the foot that connect the front and the back and help it communicate and stay stable. Basically how you can do short foot and do that whole foot. Yeah, that is the core.
Starting point is 00:37:35 So if your foot core is weak, it's not that different than having a core that's weak in your midsection, in which sense you're going to increase your risk. That's a good crunches, bro. Yeah. Increase your risk of injury. Yeah. And when your foot is, because that's the first thing to contact the floor, when that is dysfunctional, the dysfunction travels up the kinetic chain, because something has to make up for that dysfunction. Well, it's amazing when you look at the way the evolution of shoes, like, you know, before we walked around barefoot everywhere, right? And then eventually we moved to these, you know, pieces of leather, you know, with some hay at them, like wrapped around your feet. And that was like the extent of cushion.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You're still pretty much walking on the ground. It was basically there just to protect from any sharp objects or anything that could probably cut you to, like, you know, these super cushion soft soles to now women in high six inch high heels all the time. to like, you know, these super cushioned soft souls to now women in high, six inch high heels. All the time. Yeah. It's one of the most dysfunctional things that people do to themselves is wear heels.
Starting point is 00:38:32 By far, even the heels you have on right now Adam. No, I know. Cause these are just running shoes, right? But if you look at them, your foot is at a slope. Right. And even that is creating a pattern, especially if you walk around them all day. I'd say easily, easily by far,
Starting point is 00:38:46 the most dysfunctional thing in modern humans is our feet because that's the first thing that we cover and cast. Right, it's the contact point, to all movement really. I mean, like all the gravitational forces, everything, it all stems around what the feet, like how they handle that.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Well, think of the, also the brain, like, you know, they show that when we exercise and move that the brain lights up, we increase BDNF, which is this, this, this, you know, brain-derived neurotropic factor that increases growth of neurons and nerve cells and all that stuff. And the, and all these connections are made because your brain needs these connections to move your body in space, improve proprioception, and to process sensation, right?
Starting point is 00:39:31 Well, the bottom of your foot is super highly concentrated with nerve endings. It's the most in the body, right? Yeah, maybe that's why I'm so tickled. Like the hands, right? Like the hands. I believe that I believe the feet are the most. It might be, it might be, or it's like the hands, right? Because maybe less than the hands, because the hands are required to, we use our hands so much in tool making and stuff. Yeah, but we have more bones in our feet
Starting point is 00:39:54 than we have in our hands, right? Yeah, yeah. So, but there's a ton, right? There's, I mean, nonetheless, there's a ton of nerve endings. And from the day you can walk until you die, you're almost always covering your foot with something, not developing the brain neural pathways that are required to process that sensory, which
Starting point is 00:40:12 is why most people, modern people, if you take our shoes off and we walk on, like just on gravel, which is not going to cut your feet, it's like, you know, it's like sensory overload. It'd be no different than living in a dark room and then going out in the sunlight. You can't process it all. Well, and I think the part that I can't believe how long I neglected it as a personal trainer is to realize how much of people's knee pain, hip pain, shoulder pain, back pain.
Starting point is 00:40:37 How that affects your whole genetic chain. Yeah, it's all stemming from the foot. I mean, if you have just the slightest bit of any sort of pronation or inversion or aversion going on in your foot, just the slightest bit. You just walk up, you see compensation. Yeah. It pings back and forth up your body all the way up the kinetic chain, like Justin was saying. And not very many people know to even think of that. Like, you have knee pain, you think you have bad knees, right? That's what every client thinks. He goes, oh, my knees
Starting point is 00:41:03 are really achy and bad. So I have bad knees. Like, no, you don't have bad knees, right? That's what every client thinks. They go, oh, my knees are really achy and bad. I have bad knees. Like, no, you don't have bad knees. What you have is you have some dysfunction. More than likely, the dysfunction is stemming from the foot and it's causing the pain. It's no different than like if you have a car and you look at the tires and there's like a lot of wear on one side of the tires.
Starting point is 00:41:20 You don't have a tire problem. You have something else that's causing you. It might be a lineman issue, it might be your shocks, it might be something like that, right? So it's no different than that. So it's really not a knee issue, yeah, your knee hurts, but there's something else that's causing that dysfunction. And we can see that.
Starting point is 00:41:36 And we can see that. And we can see that with like bunions, and you can see that with calluses, and in the way that you apply pressure, if I'm always putting pressure on my pinky toe, or I'm always putting pressure on my big toe, it's like you can just take a second and look at that. Do you not many people see that?
Starting point is 00:41:50 You know how many people's feet will have like their pinky toe doesn't even touch the floor? Yeah, that's actually quite common. Well, they're relaxed and their foot's relaxed and the pinky doesn't even touch the floor. Oh yeah. I mean, that's just, that is supposed to touch the floor, but it doesn't because your fingers
Starting point is 00:42:03 are all toes, smash together so much that one's later on the top of a mic. Have you ever looked at pictures of LeBron James' feet? Some of those guys? Yeah, we pulled them up here. That is some crazy stuff. Yeah, no, no, for sure. Especially those guys with big feet.
Starting point is 00:42:15 And that's the thing too, is people see these athletes and they think they're a super athlete, so they're okay, but that's why there's so much dysfunction even in them, that's why most of them end up with so much back pain and all kinds of issues later on in their life is because they've learned to compensate with that for so many years, but they've never really addressed any of it.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Something else too I wanted to talk about, and I don't think we talked about this on the podcast. I think I might have brought it up off air, so stop me if I have, but I was reading this study on multiple personality disorder and it blew me away. So you guys are familiar with that psychiatric disorder and what that is? on multiple personality disorder. And it blew me away. So you guys are familiar with that psychiatric disorder and what that is? Do you guys know what that is?
Starting point is 00:42:49 Not familiar as like I've had a client. You've heard of it. Yeah, but I know that. You could change your personality on a whim. Yeah, so essentially it usually comes from severe trauma and we're not quite sure how it happens but we think what happens in the psyche if someone is they create separate identities
Starting point is 00:43:06 within themselves to handle different situations. So like someone was, let's say severely abused, they may create an alter personality or identity who is there for the abuse so they can step out and not attend it or whatever, right? So there's lots of theories just to why it happens, but it's a real identifiable psychiatric condition. And there are actual identities, like literally,
Starting point is 00:43:27 somebody, a man, a grown man can have an identity that's a five year old girl, or that is a woman, or that is whatever, and they believe it, and they act it out, and that's who they are. Is there predominantly a protective mechanism? Like, that's what they say. That's what they think, and sometimes they're aware of the other identities, so they know, like, oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:46 John did this yesterday or whatever. And sometimes they're not aware. There's actually being cases where people have this multiple personality disorder where they don't even know, they just, they don't know that another side of them came out, which is even harder to deal with. But anyway, it's always been like kind of controversial. Do you, is this like a real identity?
Starting point is 00:44:04 Do they really believe this? What's going on? And since we've invented FMRI machines, which are MRI machines can image blood patterns in the brain and can do it in real time. So we can see what parts of the brain are lighting up when we play a particular song, when you have a particular thought, whatever,
Starting point is 00:44:24 and we can see what's going on. And it's in real time. And so what they did is they took these people who had multiple personality disorder, put them in this FMRI machine, and watched what happened when they would switch identities. Well, there was this woman who had two, I did she had like several identities,
Starting point is 00:44:43 there was like 10 identities, I think, two of which, and this has been observed in other people as well, two of which these identities were blind. So she could see, she had functioning eyes in her head. But two of the identities, she would go into this identity and she couldn't see, she was blind. The FRF MRI machine captured what was going on with her brain
Starting point is 00:45:02 when she would switch into this blind identity. The part of the brain that processes vision off, turned off. Completely turned off. So she was essentially blind. We have the ability to potentially do that. That's what's fascinating. That's exactly what's blowing me away
Starting point is 00:45:20 because she believed so wholeheartedly that she was blind in this identity or this identity was blind, that literally the part of her brain that processes sight was turned off so she was effectively blind. Wow. I mean, think of the applications of that to, you know, everything, you know, everything we do because we try so hard to separate the subject from the objective, the mental and the psychological from the physical, but mental and the psychological from the physical,
Starting point is 00:45:45 but you can't, it's all totally connected. And it's all influences, one influences the other. I mean, you could have a physical issue. You think in our lifetime, we're gonna learn to tap into these things. Do you think we're gonna, what we're at right now with science? Do you think we're gonna have the ability
Starting point is 00:46:00 to either one supplement or use a tool or a machine to train ourselves to be able to tap into this. I think it is the ultimate, that is the ultimate horizon, that is the ultimate place to explore with the human psyche because if we can do that, then we can cure pretty much any issue. I mean, think about it. If we can figure that out, we could cure alcoholism, addiction, we could cure bad habits. You could literally go in there and be like, look, I need to change my viewpoint on this situation alive or I need to become more conscientious
Starting point is 00:46:33 because I'm lazy or I need to learn how to save more money or whatever. And you could go through therapy and really figure this out. Wow. I mean, it reminds me a lot of the work that I saw, you know, with Wim Hof and being able to tap into the autonomic system as far as like muscles that are involuntary. But you can actually, through meditative practices and breathing and cold immersion and all these things, you can actually start to tap into really being able to control your temperature. Yeah, your temperature, your heart beats everything. Doug, would you look this up?
Starting point is 00:47:06 Cause I know I've heard the number four, and I don't wanna mess it up. I know monks, I know they have the ability to change. Some Tibetan monks, yeah. Have the ability to change their core temperature at will up to like seven or 10 degrees or so. They've actually done where they'll go out into the snow and they'll meditate and they'll put wet towels
Starting point is 00:47:23 on their body in the snow. They'll meditate, elevate'll put wet towels on their body in the snow. They'll meditate, elevate their body temperature so much they dry the towels. 17 degrees. 17 degrees. That is a lot. Think about that. If you're in a place that's 20, 30 degrees freezing cold and to be able to jump up 17 degrees is nuts to me. Their skin temperature, 17 degrees, which is massive. 17 degrees is just a lot of room
Starting point is 00:47:46 to learn more about our body and our mind and our psyche, especially. Yeah, that's that's fast. Well, here's what I, here's the thing too, because human, you can generally say that humans learn in two different ways. One is the one that all of us, most of us learn through, which is a slow gradual process, right? I learn little, which is a slow, gradual process. I learn little by little by little, and it takes me years and years and years of practice and awareness to make these big fundamental changes to where you get a Tibetan monk who's been meditating for 30 years
Starting point is 00:48:18 and it's a drastic change, but within that 30 year period, it was small, incremental, non-perceptible changes. It just took a long time. But then there's another way that humans learn, which you could call epiphanies, for example, or there's an actual Western medicine term for it. I can't remember it is where something happens and boom, we're different. But that usually happens from a dramatic, maybe trauma or event that happened right at, you know, that really shifted your way of thinking.
Starting point is 00:48:49 For example, you could have someone as an alcoholic and let's say they go out in their car one day drunk and then they hit a kid and kill a kid. That could be enough to create that epiphany where they change forever, right? I think we're starting to tap into that with psychedelic medicines. forever, right? I think we're starting to tap into that with psychedelic medicines. And I'm not basing this off of personal
Starting point is 00:49:10 experience. I'm basing this off, it's not just my opinion, I'm basing this off of the science that's coming out, because like the science that came out with with PTSD, where PTSD could take decades to get people to kind of come out of it. And some of the science with like what they they're doing cytosyben treatment or MDMA treatment, it's like two therapy sessions and they're cured and they'll come test them a year or two years later. Well, this is also how I interpret the Bible verse where they talk about you.
Starting point is 00:49:39 If you have as much faith as a mustard seed, you could move mountains. And so I really believe that that's the first feat is for us to even believe that, to have enough faith and belief that we can do these types of things with our brain and our mind. And if we, the problem is that we just don't think we can. And if you have, literally like the matrix, like Neo,
Starting point is 00:49:56 remember when he had to jump off the building, but he had to believe that he could. Right. You know what I'm saying? It's literally like that. And it's really weird. The more we start to do this dive deeper into this science, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Like the study I bring up all the time where they did the fake knee surgery and they're like, oh my knee feels better. But they didn't even do anything. Yeah. They didn't even cut people open and they had dramatic results. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:50:18 Equivalent to the actual knee surgery. Like they compared it to people who got knee surgery and they had the same. That doesn't prove your mind is powerful. I can't pinpoint anything else. Well, perception is obviously everything, but I think it might even go beyond that. I mean, think about it. Like if your body was really under your control, could you technically tell yourselves to
Starting point is 00:50:37 like kill a cancer tumor or heal your heart or, you know, grow back a limb? I mean, I don't know. I mean, this all sounds crazy, but. Well, what bacteria is it that people will eat and then they'll get really sick, right? Like salmonella. Salmonella. So they injected salmonella in a few of the Wim Hof
Starting point is 00:50:59 like practitioners. I'll try to remember, and he's actually, they've proven scientifically that by, you know, tapping into, you know, the breathing autonomic system, they're able to like manipulate their immune system to fight and battle it and then came out, Scott free, whereas, you know, somebody didn't apply these practices, got really, really sick. Yeah. I do. I really do think that that psychedelics may, just from the science that I've seen, and I don't mean you take this and then you get, you figure it out for yourself.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I think they're powerful tools. I think you do the opposite too. You could use them and then come out way worse. But I think the way we're studying them, they may hold some of the keys to that kind of treatment because they work on that level, on that psychological level to the point where, I mean, I was watching a documentary on this,
Starting point is 00:51:48 and this is like this a woman who's best friend died from, you know, was a terminal disease, and she was just absolutely completely devastated, could not go to work, whatever did therapy, didn't work. Then she found this licensed therapist who also on the side did treatments with MDMA, kind of in obviously black market, but did it because she found it so successful. Went and had a treatment and they interviewed the woman afterwards and she's like, I feel completely different. She's like, I'm not being able
Starting point is 00:52:23 to reach this point at all with anything else I've ever done. She's like, I feel completely different. She's like, I'm not being able to reach this point at all with anything else I've ever done. She's like, I feel like I'm cured. After one treatment, you know, it might be enough just to, well yeah, that's why hypnosis works for some people. Yeah, some people swear by it. Like, I swear, I could not quit smoking for the life of me. I was hypnotized and then I know it. So from a physical basis, I don't,
Starting point is 00:52:42 I gotta find this article, because I think I sent it to you Justin, they actually show physically where the brain under the influence of some of these psychedelics actually restructures itself physically. They can actually see neurons changing, connecting and making different connections to permanently or just to change itself
Starting point is 00:53:02 from what a depressed brain looks like to a brain that's not depressed. They can actually create new pathways, actually restructure itself, you know, or become more plastic in the sense where it starts to restructure itself. So I think that we may start to tap into some of this stuff in the future, or at least it's going to revolutionize how effective therapy can be. That's my question. It'll be interesting. I know you're on that wagon. I don't know if I'm all the way there yet if I believe that that's going to, if we're
Starting point is 00:53:29 going to. I just wonder, I know that as humans, we tend to fuck everything good up. You know what I'm saying? We take something that's good, good, give information, good research, good science, and then we end up bastardizing it for sure. Yeah, there's the article, psychedelic could help treat depression by physically restructuring the brain. Restructuring. I mean, you know, here's a deal, look,
Starting point is 00:53:49 if you believe in higher power, or you believe that, you know, that we're not alone or whatever, it's not hard to think that certain things were placed on earth for a particular purpose. I mean, every effective medicine. Yeah, I mean, we've, I mean, we found lots of misusing them. We're partying with them.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Right, that's what I mean by the same. Madden's up screwing it all up, right? I mean, it was probably potentially put that forward. Yeah, name one thing with a lot of power that doesn't have massive potential for abuse. You can't. This clause brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. here. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code mind pump for 20% off at checkout.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Alright our first question is from PD Pitbull Fitness Diving Life. That's it. That's an Instagram handle right there. Short name, short name. You know how matter you at your friends that do that that have like a long ass name? I'm like, you know why I don't follow you bro? Because I can't remember your freaking Instagram handle. It's way too many words. And we just keep it at pity.
Starting point is 00:55:06 Yeah. As a trainer, it can sometimes be tough to practice what you preach. What are your tips for holding yourself accountable and living by what you teach? Mm-hmm. Get some judgmental friends. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:18 I was just gonna say that. I was literally just gonna say that. Yes. If you think that you by yourself are aware enough to check yourself, you are fooled. You are a fool. Because your ego, all your time. Your ego is so insidious and so clever.
Starting point is 00:55:37 It is literally how you identify with yourself. This is why the five people you surround yourself with are so important, not just on like a financial level, but things like this, where it starts to bleed over. And if you are always hanging out with people that just don't value health and fitness, you're gonna end up doing the things they like to do, which is drinking, smoking, and doing things that are not serving their body and taking care of themselves. So even if you are this fitness guru, if you're constantly hanging around them all the time, it's gonna be really tough for you to do that. I mean, you've gotta be a rock star to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:56:09 Yeah, the way I look at it is, I, number one, surround yourself with people who actually, who actually wanna see you do well or do better. Right, they have your interest in mind, but they're also not gonna be as you. No, right, you don't wanna surround yourself with people who don't, and how do you know that? Well, if something bad happens to, but they're also not gonna be as you. No, right. You don't want to surround yourself with people who don't.
Starting point is 00:56:25 And how do you know that? Well, if something bad happens to you, they're upset. And if something good happens to you, they're very happy for you, like genuinely. So now you know that they're, they have good intentions. Also make sure that they're relatively intelligent and that you respect them. And then when they tell you something about you
Starting point is 00:56:41 that you're doing wrong, believe them. That's a tough one because you want to defend yourself right away. But if it's stings. It does. Sometimes especially. Yeah. Oh, there's some truth in that, but you want to deny it.
Starting point is 00:56:56 And you want to keep going about your ways that you've been going. But yeah, you need to really be open to that and be open to be at the crisis. I think this happens a lot with couples too, where you're dating someone you really respect and care about, and then they come to you honestly and they're like, hey, you're acting like a jerk right now,
Starting point is 00:57:10 or you're being a little lazy right now, and you want to defend yourself, you want to fight. Like sometimes just stop and you feel the urge to defend yourself, like kind of hold it a little bit and say, okay, maybe they're right, maybe I need to take what they're taking seriously. This is a really tough thing for a lot of people to deal with. I've shared on the show many times this transition of the people that maybe you grew up around and that were good friends for whatever reason.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Maybe there was something when you were in high school that bonded you guys together and so you're really tight. But as you grow and you get older and you evolve and your values and your morals and your beliefs start to change and really form who you are, you have to always be reevaluating your circle and your network of people that you're hanging out with because they are your directive influence. What's that stupid saying? Birds of a feather flock together or whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:57:58 So I mean, if you're somebody who really value, and that's not the thing, you've got to gut check yourself and ask yourself, do you really value this? Do you really care about health and fitness that much, that it's that important to you? If it is, then you do want to be surrounding yourself people that are doing that. And I know Justin came out with the fine judgmental friends, but if you have friends that value, health and fitness, it won't need
Starting point is 00:58:20 to be a judging thing. It won't be like, oh, you're doing this, and I'm not doing that. It's that they're going to be doing things of. It won't be a like, oh, you're doing this and I'm not doing that. It's that they're gonna be doing things of interest that are similar because they have similar values and morals. So I think that is something that you have to really dig deep and ask yourself, you need to first check yourself
Starting point is 00:58:36 on your own personal values. I will like your aspiring to be like these people around you. You know, like I see what they're like, if they're living their life a certain way, like whether it's health and fitness related, you know, spiritually, whatever it is, these things that you. You know, like I see what they're like, if they're living their life a certain way, like whether it's health and fitness related, you know, spiritually, whatever it is, these things that you can pull from, like I want to surround myself
Starting point is 00:58:51 with people are better than me, that I see, like I see deficiencies in how I am, and so these people just being around them. But that's not what's normal, what's normal is we're drawn to our insecurities. What's normal is that we want confirmation so that we don't have to change. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:07 We want to be the best in the group. Exactly, we want to be the healthy one in the group because then when we go decide to go eat shitty food and do things that's not healthy for a body, I still feel better because you know what, my four other friends, they're way out of shape. I live with some facts. I mean, I think everybody does.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I think it's very natural. Neuraline guy. He was nice. It was nice. I was on prime think everybody does. I think it's very new. Neuraline guy. He was nice. It was nice. I was on prime meet back then. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's true though.
Starting point is 00:59:31 We tend to gravitate toward that. And that, again, that's our insecurities. That's us wanting to feel better about ourselves because it's an area that we need to work on and we don't want to address it. Therefore, we hand, we surround ourselves with people that were better than in that area, instead of stretching our capacity and surrounding ourselves with people that maybe are selling in these areas in our life
Starting point is 00:59:52 that we want to be better at. I take it even a step further, because, again, if you have people around you that are you respect and value, and they know that they value and respect you and that they want what's best for you, it's still hard. Sometimes you'll do things to yourself that they want what's best for you. It's still hard. Sometimes you'll do things to yourself that are self-sabotaging.
Starting point is 01:00:09 Self-sabotaging, not beneficial. Let's say you smoke too much or let's say you're not eating healthy or let's say you're treating your spouse so certain way or something that you objectively, if you had to be totally honest, you know that's probably not the best, but you lie to yourself because that's what we do. We do a very effective job of it. And your friend comes to you and says, hey, man, you know, the way you're treating your spouse or the way you're eating or whatever,
Starting point is 01:00:33 it's not good, man, it's not good for you. You're your instinct is to defend yourself, but knowing that this is a person, you respect, like, look, my co-host, we'll talk about Adam Justin and we'll talk about Doug, the producer. I respect these guys. I respect them tremendously. Very, very much.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I respect them so much that they could come and say something to me that about me, that I know I'll try to defend, but afterwards I'll think to myself and be like, would, you know, Justin say something like that just to say it or is he the kind of person I respect that would only say it because he meant it and he was being honest. Well, I know objectively he is an honest person. So, I'm going to believe what he's saying. I'm going to start to try to believe what he's saying. And I don't mean you just listen to what people say to you. You have to be very careful with who you surround yourself with and whose advice you take because you also don't want to be a follower and do what everybody tells you all the time.
Starting point is 01:01:25 But I tell you something right now, the worst shit you do in your life is the shit that you lie to yourself about. It's never the stuff you're aware of or you're fully aware of because otherwise you wouldn't be aware of it. The only reason why I'm wary about that advice is because a lot of people don't realize the people that they're with are unhealthy for them. And so a lot of times these people that are around them, the advice that they're giving is a reflection of their insecurities.
Starting point is 01:01:45 For example, Justin points something out at you because he's insecure about it. You know, when we showed up to that place, you know, I felt like you were totally ignoring me and you know what I'm saying? He's giving you, and that's really his insecurity because he can't be by himself. It's typical.
Starting point is 01:02:00 You know what I'm saying? Like that would obviously that would not happen with this relationship that we have, but a lot of times, the people that you're surrounding yourself with, you're unaware of how unhealthy the relationship is, and then you're giving advice that if they then provide you with feedback on you,
Starting point is 01:02:18 really that's a reflection of their insecurity because you're surrounding yourself with the wrong people. That's right, that's step number one. Again, do these people that you surround yourself with Really want like imagine if you went to the people like imagine if you you went to the group of people around you And you said to them my business exploded yesterday and I'm a millionaire Would these people be jealous? Would they be happy for you genuinely? Would they be would they want something from you?
Starting point is 01:02:43 What if you went to some of these people and you said something wrong happened, something bad happened to you? Would they care to help, would they care that you were upset to try and help you, or would they kind of be happy? I mean, I've had people around me in the past where if I failed at a business venture,
Starting point is 01:02:57 I could almost sense that they, not necessarily happy, but just that it confirmed in them that, oh, taking risks like that, it's kind of bad. So versus people who may be like, oh, man, that's terrible. Let me see how I can help you out. You have to find those kind of people around you and then be able to respect what they say to you.
Starting point is 01:03:16 And that's such a... I think you have to define your values first. You have to define what are your core values and what really matters to you. And then you have to look for people that exemplify those areas of your values. So for example, I'll use you to as an example for me, right? So at one point I will be a father, right? And so I really, I look at you guys and I go like,
Starting point is 01:03:40 I love talking to you guys. I love when you express and share stories about that because I think the way you handle your parenting is incredible. It doesn't mean you're perfect, but you're far better than I am at that and I look up to you in that area. That's important to me.
Starting point is 01:03:56 And that's because that's an important value that I know that it'll be very important to me when I raise my child. And so I want to surround myself with other men that take a lot of pride in being a great father. And that doesn't, and now if you guys weren't great fathers, it wouldn't take from other attributes that you guys are also selling out. But that's an important value of mine that I have to find in somebody else. And I have found that within you. So I think it's important
Starting point is 01:04:18 that you first define the things that are extremely important. And then you surround yourself with others that exemplify that in one way or another. And each friend may have something different. So maybe you're somebody who is has a spiritual background. And so I want somebody that excels in that. So I get that, you feel that fire for me. And then maybe Justin has got this, he's super business savvy on a whole nother level
Starting point is 01:04:41 that I can totally learn from him. And so he fuels that fire for me. And so there doesn't need to be any of this communication of you need to do this or finger pointing or judging stuff. It's finding mentors. Yeah, exactly. You're finding mentors within your own circle in areas that are important in life.
Starting point is 01:04:55 But most people are not doing that. Instead, they're surrounding themselves with people that represent the other side of you. The side that isn't, that's unhealthy, that's lazy, or that makes bad decisions, that makes you feel good because, you know, what, oh, they're doing worse than I am in that area, so at least I'm okay. It's something that subconsciously happens to a lot of people. It's really challenging.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Right. It's comfortable to surround yourself with people that help you not grow, or at least make it comfortable to not grow, you know what I mean? Like if you're just a degenerate and you have a bunch of degenerate friends, it's going to make it comfortable, more comfortable for you to be a degenerate. Well imagine if you were a degenerate but all your friends were conscientious, hardworking, intelligent people. It's going to be a little uncomfortable. It may force you to have to try to grow.
Starting point is 01:05:39 It will force growth, right? If you try to stick around. Right, right. If you're the degenerate and you're surrounded by four people that are not like you will level up to them. If you're it's the other way around, if you're the stud in the group, if you're the one that is grounded really well, and then you're with four degenerates, you'll come down to their level and you'll never grow. They'll they'll it's like, you know, John C. Maxwell talks about this in the leadership laws. You know, if you're a if it's a scale of one to 10, 10 being your great leader, one, you're terrible, if you're a seven on the leadership scale,
Starting point is 01:06:09 you will never surpass that without hanging around eights and nines and tens. If you are constantly hanging around sixes and fives as far as their leadership abilities, you'll never get beyond that. You'll be stuck at that level. And that's what happens. It's like with anything, it's like with sports
Starting point is 01:06:24 or like a Jiu-jitsu. Like if you're a purple belt level, you ain't gonna get to black belt unless you roll with black belts. You just roll a bunch of blue belts who are worse than you. You'll never really get that much better. You have to hang around with people who can push you to grow. Which when you make these points,
Starting point is 01:06:39 this is what's really tough for all of us, is to be okay. My mom says this a lot. I'm gonna plug her since she's here right now. There's the seasons of your life, being comfortable and okay with these seasons of your life and knowing that.
Starting point is 01:06:51 And this was tough for me for a very long time with certain friends. I would create these bonds with people that provided a certain value in my life. And a lot of times what would happen is I would outgrow them. I would outgrow them and it was time for me to move beyond or move into another season of my life,
Starting point is 01:07:07 but I was stuck in that season. I want to stay in summer. I don't want winter to come up, because winter means I got a change. It means I got the growth to be uncomfortable. And so this happens to people as they meet their network of people, they become attached to that. They stay in that season forever
Starting point is 01:07:21 and they don't learn to evolve. Yeah, you know, that's a common thing these days with men, they call it Peter Panzen Drumwork guys. Don't want to, they don't want to get responsible. Because of that you just use the Peter Pan thing. Yeah, yeah. Like the subtle jab right there. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:07:38 But you know, it's been talked about quite a bit recently because it's been. Even Dr. Molley brought up. Yeah, all these guys in the Silicon Valley that live in house and they just, you know, every like nobody wants to it's it's it's men in their typically in their 30s who want to stay young. They want to be they don't want to grow up. They don't want to. I don't want to.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Claim responsibility. They don't want to get married. They don't want to have kids. They don't want to, you know, uh, make investments that we're going to scround them. They just want to be a young kid and do you wanna be a pirate? Yeah, and it's because they have, they don't, they're serious for gold. Yeah, they don't have the biological clock that doesn't go off on them like it does on women. So you see this more common in men,
Starting point is 01:08:15 and you know, again, how do you hold yourself accountable? I mean, you know, it's a great way to hold yourself accountable, and this isn't for everybody, obviously, but for me, I can see it's podcasting. Are you kidding me? When I listen to episodes and hear how I talk in my opinions, I can be objective and hear what I'm saying and be like, oh shit,
Starting point is 01:08:31 I sound like an asshole right there. Oh, that's a good point or that's a bad point. And it really changes how I start to think about certain things to be reporting. It's a good thing. I get it me hoarding. I get it me hoarding. I get it me hoarding.
Starting point is 01:08:42 I get it me hoarding back from other people. That's right. That's right. It's right. It's right. It's right. It's right. On, on, you know, social media. That's crazy. Next up is a fit story. You guys have talked about increasing calories to rev up your metabolism, but a lot of people have a real fear of consuming more calories. How would you recommend helping people overcome this fear? You know, this is something that poor Jessica, man, I just keep, I keep bringing her up a lot. I just, a lot of the questions you guys are asking lately is, uh, relates to,
Starting point is 01:09:07 this is why I still do a little online coaching because it's, it's good to be able to work with people. It is. It gives, and it gives me a place that I can reference for this perspective to give you guys kind of an, an analogy of what, what she's going through right now. And, you know, when she first came over here, uh, for help, you know, she's competed. she's been in great shape, she's been as low as 125, 130 pounds, and she's now walking around at 168, and she comes to me like Adam,
Starting point is 01:09:31 I'm the worst shape I've ever been in my life, you gotta help me get rid of this, and when I evaluate her metabolism. So what I do always is I track and see where she's eating, how she's moving, and so that's about a week or two of me kind of calibrating where she's currently at. And what happened was I realized, holy shit, this girl is 168 pounds,
Starting point is 01:09:50 she's 13, she's 1300 to 1500 calories, anything over that she gains weight. So she eats 1600 calories and she puts body fat on, like what a frustrating position to be in, especially for 170 pound female. And then to top it off, then you pay a guy like me money, and then I turn around and say, hey, I'm going to have you eat more calories, we'll probably gain some weight. And she looks at you kind of sideways and goes,
Starting point is 01:10:15 like, no, I hired you to lose weight. This is not what I want to do. Now, luckily, I have a long-term relationship with her. She knows me and she and she trust me. So we're on like and I think we're up to eight eight weeks now And I've been slowly increasing her calories and we are up I've pushed as high as she's been up to a hundred and seventy one pounds So in seven weeks of training consistently being strict on a diet tracking everything for me I'm inching her calories up now I know because I've been here many times with clients on how challenging this is mentally, especially for my female clients to be able to do this. This is less
Starting point is 01:10:49 hard for my men, extremely difficult for women. It reminds me of when a guy comes and wants to build muscle and you're like, we're going to have to work on mobility for four months. So you're not going to gain strength and gain muscle. Right. Right. Right. Right. It's similar. Right. Right. So the first thing you need to be okay with and understand that this is a process. You didn't get in this situation overnight, or even in four weeks, or even in eight weeks, or even in 12 weeks. This has been years probably, probably,
Starting point is 01:11:15 of you yo yo, dieting and not eating correctly. So have a little patience and understand that we have to reverse out of this. So, and try and focus on something besides the damn scale and the way your pants and shit is fitting you. That's the key right there. And that's the big thing that I do.
Starting point is 01:11:31 Strength is what I drive home. So I strength how you feel in your workouts and trying to connect those dots. So, you know, for us, and it's been great. And she's made this mental switch and it happened about three weeks in, where I said, I don't want you really getting on the scale. If I do, I want it for me, and it's only so and she's made this mental switch and it happened about three weeks in where I said, I don't want you really getting on the scale.
Starting point is 01:11:47 If I do, I want it for me and it's only so I can kind of calibrate where you're going. I'm not concerned about weight whatsoever, but I am concerned about you feeling stronger and you feeling fed. I want you fed. I don't want you hungry right now, but I want us to make good nutritional choices
Starting point is 01:12:03 when you are hungry and feeding you correctly, making sure your micro, macro nutrients are balanced and so I'm too hungry right now, but I want us to make good nutritional choices when you are hungry and feeding you correctly, making sure your micro, macro nutrients are balanced, and so I'm leading that. And then I want to inch up your calories, and while we're doing that, all we're looking at as your gauge is your strength changes. Like how much is your deadlift coming up, how much is your squat coming up, how much is your overhead, and because she has seen these great gains and strength, it's now happening. Now eight weeks in, she's starting to feel it on her body. She's like, you know, it's so weird out of them.
Starting point is 01:12:28 Like, my pants are fitting me worse than they've ever fed me. I feel like I need to wear a sweats, but when I touch my body, and when I look at myself naked, the shape of my body looks fine. I look better than what I should for where I'm at weight. And when I grab and I touch my muscles, they're hard and they're denser.
Starting point is 01:12:46 And even the way my butt is sitting, it's not sagging, it's feels like it's, even though I have fat on it, and I'm not happy where my weight is, the way it's sitting on my body feels different. I said, that's because we're building muscle. I asked her that, she's 30 something years old,
Starting point is 01:12:57 I go, have you ever started a workout regimen and a plan and not also cut calories or tighten up your diet. Never in her life. Most people in the world... Most women, when they decide they're going to go on their kick to get in shape, they start exercise and they cut calories. They go to burn as many calories as you could do. Worst thing you could do.
Starting point is 01:13:20 I get why this question keeps popping up. We've visited this specific topic probably the last like couple weeks and it's because it's such a hard conversation to have with somebody coming in and especially as a trainer and trying to you know get them to buy into that concept. It's such a foreign animal you know for a client because they all they see is I want weight to disappear. I want my clothes to fit better. I want all these tangible changes to happen, but to get them to understand they need to build and to then really reframe that whole thought processes. It's a monster. It's like a mechanic, it's like someone
Starting point is 01:13:58 brings their car into me. You got to build trust. It's like someone brings their race car into me, and they go, Adam, wait, you gotta fix me. My car's, I'm losing races, I'm not winning anymore. And I go, okay, well let me get under the hood. And I pop underneath the hood and I go, oh shit. No wonder this thing isn't running fucking right. I mean, your timing belt is off, you got no oil on this, your pistons are all rusted.
Starting point is 01:14:19 You can cool it. Your tires are bald, your alignment is off. All these things are screwed up inside of you. Nothing that has anything to do with the speed yet of the car, but it does have something to do with the speed. You know, I could just tell you to forward as hard as you possibly can to try and get there, but everything starts to fall apart that way.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Now, if we take the time, we fix all these pieces inside of you, then what happens, it's effortless. It's a big block motor. Oh, right. It's effortless when you address all the things that are broken down with your metabolism. And I think you just got to one, you got to be patient with it. Two, you change your focus.
Starting point is 01:14:54 It's no longer about the scale on the way. It's about building strength and building muscle because the more strength, the more muscle you have, the healthier of a metabolism. And there's a range, too. There's a range within your current amount of muscle mass in terms of how many calories your body will burn on a daily basis. In other words, you don't have to gain a shit ton of muscle. And I want to say this because I know those women listening were like, I don't want to gain 20 pounds of muscle
Starting point is 01:15:19 to get my metabolism to speed up by a thousand calories. You don't have to. It may show up as like a few pounds on the scale, but within that range, there's actually a big amount of calories that your body can either burn more or burn less of. In other words, you can even stay the same weight, same lean body mass and get your metabolism to ramp up. Or slow down.
Starting point is 01:15:37 This is the goal. This is the goal, is the main thing, right? That's what I try and do. Because I also want to keep her sane while she's going through this process. I could care less if she goes up to 175 or 180 because I know what I try and do, cause I also want to keep her sane while she's going through this process. I could care less if she goes up to 175 or 180, cause I know what I'm doing. I know I'm gonna come back the other direction,
Starting point is 01:15:50 but I know too for her sanity. Psychologically, yeah. Psychologically, where the real work comes in for me is be able to watch it and give her just the right amount of extra calories and increase her intensity so that she doesn't see much movement up or down on the scale. But then when I go retest her body fat in a month,
Starting point is 01:16:11 there's a 4% reduction in body fat. And a lot of people don't understand how to compute that and what happens and what has happened is there's a perfect exchange. It means that over four weeks, our scalars stay the same, but she has lost four pounds of fat and she's added four pounds of muscle. And so her body composition has changed,
Starting point is 01:16:28 her metabolism has changed, but her scalestate the same. And give people different metrics, you know, you have to give people different metrics to keep track of because the weight loss one is not the one that we're gonna be looking at right now. If all you focus on is weight loss, you're gonna have a very tough time trying to amp up your metabolism because that's not gonna happen looking at right now. If all you focus on is weight loss, you're gonna have a very tough time trying to amp up your metabolism
Starting point is 01:16:47 because that's not gonna happen for a little while. So start to give people other metrics they can measure. Performance is a great one, like Adam said, and strength, but I like to ask people about their energy, their sleep, their mood, their skin, their mobility, their endurance, their stamina. All that stuff. And I'll ask them all these questions. When I coach people, we mobility, their endurance, their stamina. All that stuff. I'll ask them all these questions.
Starting point is 01:17:06 When I coach people, we'll talk about these and I'll even tell them sometimes, I'll say, look, for the next three months, you're not going to step on a scale. I don't want you to weigh yourself at all. Sometimes, if they have a real problem, sometimes I'll have them weigh themselves and we'll do it once a week, just so I can monitor
Starting point is 01:17:19 what's going on. But the main focus is on other metrics. How are your deadless feelings? Oh, you're stronger. How is your sleep? Oh, you're stronger, that's excellent. How is your sleep? Oh, it's better, that's fantastic. Is your libido healthier?
Starting point is 01:17:29 That's fantastic, that's great. How's your joints? How's your body feeling? Because people want to, it's natural, right? They want to feel like they're progressing at something. And so if you get them to focus on, and I experienced this myself, when I first started training in Jiu-Jitsu,
Starting point is 01:17:43 my focus had always been on how big and strong I was that when I did Jiu Jitsu, I had to focus on how well I did the techniques and how well I moved, and it actually helped me break free from the whole insecurity about my body being a particular size. Because now I'm focusing on something else. Well, look at what I just went through. Everybody knows it's been listening to this show for a long time, like what I've gone through hormonally How much my body has changed completely? Imagine being a guy who's 230 pounds jacked to the gills and then coming all the way down to 208 210 pounds
Starting point is 01:18:13 The psychological piece has been the most challenging piece of all of that and so what I've had to do to is not get Not identify with this meat wagon to get identify with this muscle building guy It's to focus on other parts and other areas that I can improve on. And, you know, my mobility, I just hit huge. That was such a big deal for me the other day, would be able to do an overhead squat like that. I've never been able to do that. That's such a huge victory for me.
Starting point is 01:18:37 And then at the same time to be able to objectively look at myself and go, like, I'm also nowhere near in the best physical shape I've ever been in my life. No, we're near it. But that's physical shape I've ever been in my life. No where near it. But that's okay because I'm getting wins in other places. So like you said, so I think learning to look at libido, look at sleep, look at mood, look at energy, look at all those things, those other aspects of your life,
Starting point is 01:18:57 and try and target those to improve upon. I think those are great idea. Next question is from Mary Beth Brown 5. My mom is 60 and has been diagnosed with osteopenia. She recently hired a trainer and has been lifting weights and working out consistently. Last time she was at the doctor, the nurse instructed her that she shouldn't be lifting weights
Starting point is 01:19:18 and should only be walking. Can weightlifting build bone density in someone over 60 with pre-Astioprosis? If so, how should they be structuring their program? I can't love doctors. I can't express how irritated I am over this dumb ass nurse. So, here's a deal. I'll say this 100% right now, mark it down.
Starting point is 01:19:40 It's all recorded and out. Resistance training will be the number one form of exercise that will be recommended for all aging people in the near future. Super crucial. Period. Because resistance training combats all the issues that happen with aging directly and better
Starting point is 01:19:58 than any other form of exercise, including and especially bone density. But you know, that's a ridiculous one. If you have, so osteopenia is before you get osteoporosis. Nothing will make your bones want to strengthen and grow. And training, like, like, adding sheer force on your bones, which is exactly what resistance training does.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Now, walking can build some bone density in your lower body. It's not gravitational force. And that's just off because of the impact. But sheer force, sheer force does it better. And sheer force is when you're taking a bone and you're applying force on it like you're trying to bend it or compress it and with resistance.
Starting point is 01:20:36 And that's literally what resistance training does. And I like to use this kind of an example for people because people think, oh, take more calcium, use this drug, whatever. If your body has this signal to adapt by becoming stronger, that is the only time all these additional things that you take and do will actually benefit you. It's like adding protein to your diet
Starting point is 01:20:56 without lifting weights. You're not gonna build more muscle just because you have more protein or it's like giving, it's like having a bunch of bricks in a yard but having no builders to build your house. Throw as many bricks as you want. No mortar. It's like it's gonna be turned into a house
Starting point is 01:21:09 until you have the workers. And the stimulus that causes that is resistance training. I had a client who years ago, where she came to me because she had osteophenia, but she also had another condition where her body wasn't producing enough red blood cells. In fact, they thought she had cancer at one point, but they found that she didn't, but it just kept getting worse and worse. So, her doctor said, hey, you know, you should
Starting point is 01:21:33 start exercising. She came and saw me, and we started working out. She was on, she had been on the, like, was it called the immune, immunomodulating drugs or immunosuppressive drugs for osteopenia. they really doing anything for her. She was doing the cal, whatever all those stuff wasn't doing anything for her. She started resistance training with me and within, I think it was a six month period for the first time saw reversal in her osteophenia
Starting point is 01:21:59 and we got so good, things looked so good that they actually created a case study around her because of the effects which to me is silly like duh right of course resistors to do that let me explain why it's really sad that we're still dealing with this it's it's it's this is the science has been around for this for a long time now and the fact that we still have they don't they don't get educated in this dude they have no other educated I know but it's such a simple fix to change that. And I 100% agree with you and I would bet all the money I had along side you that this will get changed as a recommendation because it's purely just the lack of education and
Starting point is 01:22:38 what it would take to actually just change it. I don't know if there's all these hoops they have to jump through in order to change that. I just a lot of red tape They we get so protective you know in the way that we prescribe things and like we don't want people to you know Do anything that's gonna cause them to accelerate their harm when in fact, you know the the the training of it and the actual Exercises is what's gonna get you building up to where you get stronger and you can resist forces, where we're afraid of the forces now, avoid the forces. Like don't go out and lift anything heavy anymore.
Starting point is 01:23:11 A medical doctor has no business talking to you about this, a physical therapist, you want a DPT, you can go somebody that, I mean, that would be ideal, they'll tell you that, and they'll tell you that resistance training, absolutely, they would encourage for you to do a course. But again, it's a risk thing, right? So they think that like, oh, they've been told like,
Starting point is 01:23:26 well, it's because, you know, the problem with the risk management. The problem with what that is this, conduct a study on cardiovascular activity. Easy. Everybody go 30 minutes for a walk and we'll study this. Conduct a study on resistance training. There's a million and one different ways to apply resistance training.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And some of them are effective. And some of them are terrible. I could see a study coming out apply resistance training. And some of them are effective, and some of them are terrible. I could see a study coming out saying resistance training has no positive effects on health, and it's not because resistance training doesn't work, it's because when you look at the routine that they used, it was some bullshit circuit or something like that, where they weren't applying it properly.
Starting point is 01:23:57 The problem is resistance training requires more programming. It requires more expert programming, where it's called understanding the skill of it as well. That's it, like too much intensity, too little intensity, right amount of frequency, the right biomechanics exercise, it costs way more money to conduct a study on it than it does to conduct a study on cardiovascular training.
Starting point is 01:24:16 But if you look at aging, what happens to your body's your age? Hormone levels start to change. What form of exercise promotes youthful levels of hormones better than any of the form of exercise? Resistance strength. Mobility. As you age, you lose mobility where you feel stiff, you can't squat, you can't bend over, you can't reach up above your head. What form of exercise directly combats that and improves it better than any of the form of exercise? Resistance and training. Let's look at strength, muscle, the loss of muscle mass,
Starting point is 01:24:47 and metabolism adaptations where your metabolism slows down. What directly combats that? Resistance training. There is no form of exercise that can literally compete with resistance training, what comes to this. And this was my specialty. I trained people for years who were in advanced age, people over the age of 65.
Starting point is 01:25:04 And the reason why I became a specialist in this besides the fact that I enjoyed working with them is I started training one, then I started training two, and then I started training doctors, then doctors started sending me all their older clients because the results they saw were, I'll tell you something right now, if I get a 25 or 35 year old client and I train them,
Starting point is 01:25:22 I'll see dramatic results. You give me a 75 year old and I'll change your fucking life. I'll change their life completely to the point where they were maybe dependent on someone and now they're independent all of a sudden. Life changing, that's how big of a difference. Well, the resistance training makes. Cardiovascular training, I mean,
Starting point is 01:25:38 what's the greatest benefit to that, what, like heart and lung health, right? But at the same time, you could still get a heart pumping effect, you know, from resistance training, just like you would running. But it's, I mean, obviously it's a different process, but at the same time, like, there's like all those benefits
Starting point is 01:25:56 you listed, I mean, far, far outweigh, you know, what cardiovascular training provides. But that's, it's because of, I think it's the skill acquisition, right? So this is something that we need to take seriously as like if we're gonna bind together as professionals in the medical field, in health and fitness, like we all need to kind of like get better at now,
Starting point is 01:26:22 okay, if I have a patient that's dealing with this, and I want them to do resistance training, we need to give them somebody that knows what they're doing to teach them the skill set. That's right, and you know, you said physical therapists that, physical therapists are very good at correctional exercise, but when it comes to progressive resistance
Starting point is 01:26:37 and training, they're terrible. I know this, and that's not their training, right? Their training is not to do that, which is why they don't know it, which is also why I've had a lot of clients that were physical therapists. It's understanding that progressive resistance, understanding that apply, exercise programming.
Starting point is 01:26:52 But look, here's how resistance training, think about this way. Nobody's gonna argue that resistance training doesn't build muscle, we know that. But muscle anchors to what? Bone. If your muscles are gonna get stronger, that is going to send a signal to strengthen
Starting point is 01:27:06 bone as well, connective tissue and bone because it all has to anchor. Oh, they all affect each other. That's right. And this is one of those things like going through Dr. Spina's course, like they went into great depths as to, you know, all the different layers of tissue and it all goes down through the bone. Everything gets affected by how it reacts to this external force. What an incredible protocol right there for somebody or modality that I would recommend to somebody who's 60 is getting them started is Ken Stretch, getting them into an active stretch like that. Man, just starting them there and then progressing them to movements they can't do.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Because I think what happens with someone like this is the fear of injury. I mean, I think that you, especially if you're somebody who waited until you're 60 years old until something like this happens because that's typically what happens as someone like this is, you know, as Americans, it's very typical.
Starting point is 01:27:57 We wait until it's broken before we decide to even apply anything towards it or try to fix it. So this person's probably been trucking along for 60 years of life with no real resistance training or try to fix it. So this person's probably been trucking along for 60 years of life with no real resistance training or incorporating that at all. And now they're trying, and then they got a son or a daughter who's trying to encourage
Starting point is 01:28:12 a mom, dad, you got to lift weights, you got to exercise, and they're probably scared to death. And they ride away, ask their doctor, doctor tells them that, so that's their easy out. It's like Doc goes, oh no, don't do that. Stay away from weights, they can hurt you.
Starting point is 01:28:24 Well, just take calcium supplements. You're right. If my 60 year old mother gets under a squat rack and she starts trying to squat to 25 the first time ever, she'll probably will break that act. And it's probably not a good idea. But getting her first to understand her in balances, the areas that she's probably disconnected from because she hasn't moved a certain way from. I mean, just imagine progressing the 60 year old
Starting point is 01:28:47 to a point where she can get into a 90, 90 position. Like, her internal and external rotation of her hips, like that right there would be a huge feat just to get her to start to do that. And then being able to get her to drop into depth, like, and actually move her body weight down into a full squat. And then eventually progressing to where you actually build some strength and add some.
Starting point is 01:29:06 I would love to see a study on like strong hips and the longevity that provides, you know, as far as lifespan of somebody, you know, versus somebody with like a weaker, you know, hip and like bone density. People just don't realize that if we stop using things, it just goes away. The brain prioritizes it.
Starting point is 01:29:25 Like, if you no longer take your body and you never ever take your scapula and retract, squeeze and depress, which is a normal basic row exercise that we teach to everybody and really important in combating forward and rounded shoulders, right? So if you don't ever do this anymore, your brain just says, stops the communication. It says, yeah, no reason to do anymore. And so if the brain stops the communication to all those muscles that keep you back in that good posture,
Starting point is 01:29:52 then what has to carry the stress? Now all your spine and all your bone structure carries the stress, and then all of a sudden you don't feed it nutritionally, you don't exercise it movement, then you start to get things like this, where you get degenerative type things. That's right. And here's the thing, you'll find, sometimes you'll find people who are very active cardiovascularly, who run a lot,
Starting point is 01:30:13 and the bone density that gets affected most is in their legs, but you'll sometimes see in their upper body, well, they'll have signs of osteophenia. I mean, again, I know I'm gonna keep making this case, resistance training, one of the beauties about resistance training, again, I know I'm going to keep making this case. Resistance training, one of the beauties about resistance training, one of the challenges with resistance training is also one of the beauties of it. The challenge is, it's much more complex, requires much more programming, but one of the beauties of it is extremely, you can individualize resistance training,
Starting point is 01:30:38 we know of the form of exercise, and you can train the entire body and the movement patterns, there is no specific movement pattern in resistance training. In other words, if I'm walking or riding a bike or swimming, there is a standard pattern that I have to do over and over to do those movements. Resistance training, it's like it's wide open. I can move in any way that I want, as long as I have good control and good form,
Starting point is 01:31:03 which means if I have an imbalance or I have pain or this is where my bones are weak, I can train a particular way to directly affect that particular area. If my only form of exercise is walking and I'm getting osteopenia in my neck or my spine or my upper back, the walking isn't going to make that big of a difference. I make it some carryover, but it's not going to make that big of a difference. I make it some carryover, but it's not going to make that big of a difference. Versus resistance training, I can specifically target the muscles of my upper back and the stability of my upper back where it attaches to the bones that are being affected and directly affect those particular bones, because although there is systemic bone loss that occurs, there's also more specific bone loss that occurs in parts of your body.
Starting point is 01:31:46 And if you don't believe me, take your arm, put it in the cast, don't move it at all, leave it like that for a couple of years and then look at your bone density in that arm and you'll find that that one arm will get affected. And this is in the rest of your body, well. This is a great where we talk, you know, if you own prime and prime pro, you've heard of our Cinar fortification sessions
Starting point is 01:32:04 and this is how I would apply this to somebody like this. If your mom, it's from mom, right? It's somebody's mom, is right? The thing so bad. If your mom does not have, or you don't have, Prime Pro and Prime, what a great place to start, because Prime, there's an assessment tool that goes in there, so she's gonna have to do an assessment. From that assessment, it will point her in the direction
Starting point is 01:32:27 of what exercises are good for her, and then she can start to make her workout completely around that, like before you even start getting into any major movements like a squad or a deadlift or something that probably seems very scary or intimidating for her, or she may not even be in a position to where she can do that yet. So doing like the fortification sessions, doing the prime pro movements to make sure she has
Starting point is 01:32:48 good joint health and good mobility with her joints and then eventually progressing her to a program. If you're already, if she's suffering from osteopenia and she's 60, I'm going to just go ahead and say, just do the all three zone fortification sessions in prime. You probably don't even take assessment. Just do the fortification sessions and assume that you're, she probably has issues in all of those zones. Next question is from T Myers 100. Do you think implementing mini cuts into a bulk
Starting point is 01:33:15 can be useful? 100% The same exact reason why putting a mini bulk within a long cut is beneficial. Because the metabolism adapts, we've been talking a lot about speeding up the metabolism and how it's a good idea to speed up your metabolism for most people.
Starting point is 01:33:32 But there are situations where you've constantly been trying to gain and gain and gain and your metabolism is adapted and adapted, adapted to the point where just to gain another pound of muscle, it's like you got to consume 5,000 calories a day, which I've been in that situation. It's a pain in the ass, it's very difficult. You're not assimilating the food like you were initially, right?
Starting point is 01:33:54 You're just burning everything. And you're burning it and consuming that much food and not being efficient with it might not be a good thing. So doing a mini cut in the middle of your bulk can actually resensitize your body to these calories and proteins. Make your body a little bit more efficient so that you gain more weight or more muscle mass with less calories. And what's the name Ben Pekolsky made? An amazing point a while ago we were on this podcast and I was making a comment about how
Starting point is 01:34:22 pro bodybuilders have these phenomenal genetics and one of the things about their genes is their ability to consume mass amounts of food to support their mass and he corrected me. He said, no, he goes, you don't want to be a probioty but having consumed 10,000 calories a day to be 300 pounds of muscle. You want to be able to have the kind of metabolism where you can consume 3,000 calories a day
Starting point is 01:34:42 and still look muscular like that. And we actually experienced that. I actually witnessed that myself when we went on, we actually took a trip with Robert Obersd who's a world strongest man competitor and he eats about the same as we do. Yeah, he's a massive human being by the way. I mean, you know, he picked up Adam like he was a baby, held him in his arms like a child through, you know, just into the pool. Through me on the head, I was like, yeah, I was like five years old. He's a big, big human being,
Starting point is 01:35:08 and he probably ate 500 more calories a day than I did, and he outweighs me by over a hundred pounds. Cause his body's so does such a good job of assimilating that food. So yeah, many cuts within him, many bulk, you'll build more muscle if you do that. This is how I like to intermittently use fasting too. It's a great way to do that because we always talk about the health benefits of including
Starting point is 01:35:29 fasting every now and then and what an easy way for you to start off a little mini-cut is so I'll be trucking along for five weeks of doing some sort of a bulk and then I'll do a fast and then a calorie reduction for three to five days and then go right back into my bulk. It's a great way to kind of shock the system and then turn right back around into your bulk. And I think everyone's gonna be an individual variance. So like you're not gonna get like a specific protocol
Starting point is 01:35:52 for me as far as, you know, oh, do this many days or do it for this long or reduce your calories by this. Because if you're someone like me who spent the first 30 years of his life always in a bulk, there was huge benefits to me actually running a cut like for an extended period of time because I'd never done that before. Yeah, many clubs would have not been long enough.
Starting point is 01:36:12 Right, exactly. And so, but maybe somebody is, this person is really good about doing that. So everyone's gonna have a little bit of an individual variance, but I think there's great value in actually getting out of that surplus, especially if you're running in a surplus for weeks on in. I mean, if you're running it for a few days or a week or two, not a big deal, but if you're somebody who's been bulking for weeks or like what a lot of these bodybuilders do, where
Starting point is 01:36:33 they bulk for a whole season. More permabulking guys. Yeah. You guys in the gym? Yeah, yeah. Where they're like three months, they're like on a bulk like 100% throwing a short, even like a short week. Like, it doesn't need to be like an extended period of time.
Starting point is 01:36:46 If your primary goal is to bulk and put size on, I'm not telling you to reduce calories for months on end, but if you've been on a bulk for a month or two straight, throwing a nice solid week of actually a calorie restriction. Oh man, watch how your body responds. We'll go back to refee. I like to tell people who are trying to bulk to, if they're doing a long book, just do one,
Starting point is 01:37:04 do a fast one a week, go, just do a fast one a week. Go do a 24 a fast one a week, where one day a week you only eat one meal, and then go back to your regular book and watch how much more effective those calories are when you are eating the extra calories. Plus it gives your body a break. One of the problems with being on a constant bulk,
Starting point is 01:37:21 that's a lot of work for your digestive system. That's a lot of potential for inflammation. And that fast that you do once a week gives your digestive to break and allows you to assimilate more of that. Do you find the growling response to be tough when you're in a bulk and then you have that mini cut and then you go right back to bulk? That's gotta be pretty tough to go through that day,
Starting point is 01:37:43 cutting as opposed to like, because you're in that momentum. I like it because one of the problems is challenging. One of the problems with being on a bulk a lot for a long period of time is the fact that you lose your appetite. You actually do like, you start to find, at first when you bulk, you're like,
Starting point is 01:37:58 oh, this is fun, I get to eat all this food. But then after you do it for a while, especially if you have a fast metabolism or you're an ectomorph, it's like you got to stuff yourself with food all the time. It's a fucking job man. It sucks. No joke.
Starting point is 01:38:09 Fast once a week and your appetite comes back the next day. All of a sudden you start eating again and you want to eat more. I remember experiencing that. It was, I mean, talking about how big of a pain in the ass to just try and stuff your face with food. That could be a major thing. Well, and then to me, that should be your natural signal that you're pushing the body beyond where it wants to be a major care. Well, and then to me, that should be your natural signal that you're pushing the body beyond where it wants to be.
Starting point is 01:38:25 So it's, and that's maybe that's a better answer than us telling you, like, oh, do fast for this long or do this many days or like that. Well, you know, do your bulk. And as long as you are enjoying the increase of calories, you don't feel like it's a struggle to get those calories. But we know there's, we'll come a point where you feel like, oh, I'm just stuffing my face.
Starting point is 01:38:43 And when that, that's probably your body's natural system telling you like, hey, that's more than more food than I want to be free. Yeah, so how about go back the other direction for a little bit and then reset and come the other way? Excellent. Look, we have free guides, free, absolutely free, available, mind pump free.com. We have guides on how to do hit training properly,
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