Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 807: Mind Pump's Life Lessons

Episode Date: July 5, 2018

In this episode, Sal, Adam & Justin look at each others' high school yearbooks and recall life events that shaped how they view the world today. Is Instagram/Facebook the new Yearbook? The guy’s share from each other’s High School Yearbook. (2:53) Do the same click’s that existed then, still around now? (11:10) Why the guy’s enjoyed the social side of school, rather than the educational part. (14:05) How exercise/lifting weights can be a lesson in life and hard work. (17:33) The moments they knew they were meant to do something. Why you should go all in on your strengths and not focus on your weaknesses. (24:16) What attributes from high school are playing a part in their current business? (28:38) Do they remember big shifts in the evolution of their thinking? (36:45) That one time Adam got arrested and the lessons he learned from it. (45:29) The values of customs in cultures. (56:00) What money lessons did they learn growing up? (1:06:45) The guy’s share stories of money they shouldn’t have spent. (1:15:15) People Mentioned: Mike Mentzer Arnold (@Schwarzenegger)  Twitter J Prince (@jprincerespect)  Instagram Related Links/Products Mentioned: MAPS Anabolic - Mind Pump The Art & Science of Respect: A Memoir by James Prince FREE Resources – Everything You Need to Know to Reach Your Fitness Goals Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our newest program, MAPS Split, an expertly programmed and phased muscle building and sculpting program designed to get your body stage ready. This is an advanced program and is not recommended for beginners. Get it at www.mapssplit.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com   Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this sentimental episode, Hold me. Of my pump. So we all brought in our high school yearbooks and read through them. Yeah. And had a good time.

Yeah, that was uncomfortable. You know, I forgot to tease you, Sal, about there was one last one on here that I never said anything about hanging out back by the trash can. What? Yeah. Let me see that.

Do you do a lot of hanging out by the trash can? Put a 10th grade. I'm going to miss. Is that code for something? Yeah, yeah. All the funny jokes that you guys used to tell and all the good old days where you go to. Oh, that's just the place that hung out. By trash can. No, so there was so I had I had

Over there. Yeah, except by the trash can Trash can't sell it. We all did trash kids Good old trash can sell He's a drop it off over. I had a care of it. No, my I had an area. I had a little I know it says here. It says right back. That was my that was what we are getting you know that block They're having that was your space. They're like yeah, yeah, you can have my own it by the trash can't you can take that little Hey every piece of garbage you gotta get a cause whatever you know you just throw my weight Yeah, oh you just gotta you gotta pay the tax man pay me 50 cents for every piece of garbage you got a lot of money back there. Anyway, we get sentimental. We talk about high school. We talk about I mean this was really an episode about life lessons that we learned. It was growing up. I think it's stemmed from the year books and then we start talking about high school and then a lot of lessons that we've learned in high school and that we've learned now that probably stem from

High school days, so it's I mean we talk about religion in this Adam talks about the time he got arrested. Yes, he does have a record With the was it Oakdale Police department? Yeah, it was the Oakdale Police Department. Yeah, he's a little bit of a rebel We talked about just I mean mean, things we learned, what things we wish we had learned when we were younger. How all this formed, you know, the way we think now, and like, there is definitely, you could see, you know, pieces of us back then, even now,

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Exercise programs you can find this and everything else that we offer at mine pump media dot com Dude so your books are not a thing anymore Yeah, did you read into a saying no? Oh really? Yeah, dude. He says that's not it. That's not a deal anymore. Oh, there's Justin well, what What do they do now? Like how do they capture those impressionable years? Just go on your Instagram. Oh, look at that. I remember that. I am lying. Yeah, if your books were a big deal when we were kids, like you got your book, everybody got all excited about it. That makes sense. And then people signed it so that you could feel cool

or whatever. Like look at all these people people now you just comment real time on the Facebook Or Instagram. Yeah, so what the audience doesn't know is that we are each holding Each other's yearbooks from when we were in high school. Yeah I got sales right now. Yeah, I'm looking at Adams. I'm looking at Justin's and I have there's one multi-colored several markers Oh god like some there's three pages of a signature. It's like it that you're like an opus your ex-girlfriend I'm gonna read one part of it. Just one. No, not gonna read the whole thing

part of it. Just one. No, not gonna be the whole thing. Okay. Alright, this awkwardness. Fuck. Just one sense. Just one sense. No, no. You know, everything is fair game. One sentence. Yeah. Okay. I like your L.F they're, they're not Alfie.

Maybe she's full of shit. That's why dump her. No, it's getting, yeah, you stupid bitch. Yeah, take that, take that. Dude, yeah, this is pretty good. You know, I reading sounds, right? I actually read most of yours, do they're great. Like, I think you did a really good job describing yourself.

Like, you've described yourself at, like, I feel like you give a very good description of who you are. Well, you could tell, like, you were definitely a nice boy. Like, you were a nice kid. You working out. You, yeah. Well, I'm not gonna have people say

I'm a urebroquit. It wasn't nice too. Like, hey, yeah, yeah. Well, I did. Yeah, if you, if you look at Justin and mine, you're, you're getting a lot of assholes in there Yeah, these are friends though. Yeah, they're friends, but they're like Asshole friends you could know, but I mean like you were a really nice kid. You could see where you were at like I was

I was I was a nice kid, but I was also a dumb shit too at the same time I was I feel like you were like I feel like girls parents Girls parents would love to see you walk with their daughter. Oh yeah, that's because that's always been true. Yeah, we're just in here. Yeah, which one? No, that's always been true. I've always, parents have always loved me.

But you know, I was, but you can tell, so the way you can tell is by the way, you know, all these, you know, and some of it, obviously some of the, all the writing that is in years, half of it looks like you wrote yourself so looks like you had more friends Stop keep going You're the smartest dude with the biggest dick I've ever met anyway You really missed not seeing you ever

KIT keep it tight page me. Oh JK Jake I signed them all this morning. Yeah, fuck we got to bring these to work I know I have no LOL back then we were just talking about this. It's all like JK's I've so I hope you start that mind pump idea you came with the Keep up the idea of shadowing I told you guys feel like you're gonna do big things with a big MP. I don't know what that means How many people in mine though, I forgot about this. Like a lot of people are talking about me working out.

Yeah, right? Right, me a workout, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's what I mean by, okay, I pictured you from the way you described the way you were as a kid, like this young kid by 15 years old already, so that's freshman year, dude. So you're all your high school career,

you were obviously into lifting weights. Oh yeah, that was what I was known for. Right, which is, I didn't do any of that during that time. Was it till my senior year, like that summer, did I really start lifting my buddy's garage? It's funny though, like, so if I'm looking through some of the girls' comments, you know, and your year books and stuff, it's pretty funny

because like it is accurate. They're like, you know, oh, you're sweet, you're funny, blah, blah, blah, occasionally be like, you're sexy, but you know, you need to put out more. No, I'm like, put out more. Is that what they were saying? Yeah, one of them said like, you're sexy, but you need to put out more. No, I like put out more. Is that what they were saying? Yeah, one of them said that.

It's pretty funny. That's the, you're holding out on how it was. It was a version, bro. It was a version tell us 20, man. Bro, I wasn't because I couldn't get it, yes. You know what I was saying? I signed a purity card as a kid.

You know, I would plan to, I was waiting till I was married at that age. That's what I think I'm gonna do. That's terrible. You know what's funny is I'm looking through some of these pictures and remembering the styles of the late 90s. Looking at the hair. Oh yeah.

How about Justin to the picture? It looks exactly the same. Justin? Yeah, dude. What do you mean? That backwards flannel and the shit. Oh yeah, that was, dude, and then what's crazy is that picture that I posted on my Instagram was from junior high

So it was like even further back I was like wow, this is like I don't know. I don't know how to feel about that I thought if I not change you know Your friends are funny Justin you call you I can't even read yours. I know they are they're very explicit and Like hey,, you fucking asshole. I'm a mefford thing. Whatever. You even have a guy in here that referenced you getting their back.

It sounds like you got their back in a fight. Oh yeah, they made a comment. Like if you were, you know, if I were to call anybody, like I would call you to get my back. Yeah, that was talked about before. Yeah, there was a couple of that happened where, you know, some kid was getting picked on or whatever and they come tell me and then I'd help him out.

Yeah, it was just the thing. You know what it is, it's in the yearbook, so now I really feel like. It's real. Before I throw my hand right in, you can read it. It was my hand right in the beginning, but the fuck is going on. Dude, Adam, I have to, okay, so I found one from one

of your friends, he's ra raven but like at the end He adds this little like everything's normal a cabro gonna hang out you know Well, I fucking wherever true and then there's the ps it says If they tell you to blow don't just act a little it works What the fuck does that mean dude? What does that even mean? I can't wow. I totally remember what he's talking about. Wow. So that, okay, that's my senior year right there, right?

So the year before we were at the senior prom, both Raven and I, we would different people. Like Raven's a buddy of mine and Raven was hilarious. He was a really smart guy. He was actually a stoner. He's a smoker. He actually worked with me and for me for a while when I was in the cannabis space. And he still does that.

He owns a club over in the valley. Shout out to Raven. I know he listens to show. He's also a good friend that we're all, but this is hilarious. So I'll never forget this because we are at the double tree was where the problem was being held. And Raven is, I'm coming in.

I've got, we're like like there's four of us couples we're walking in and I see Raven has got the two cops that are on bikes cornered him in the room and they're and they're telling him to blow in this to blow in a breathalyzer and he was fucked up because I remember him doing shots with us earlier and he kept drinking. I know he was out with his buddies like, so he was wasted at prom. And that's a big no no, right? Like they cracked down on that at prom.

And so he, it was the funniest thing ever. And the cops were laughing too, because of how funny he was being. Because they're like, tell him he had the blow and he would pretend like he was blowing, but he wouldn't want him. But he would hold his breath, right? But he would hold his breath.

And the cops were just kept trying to give to do. He's like, I'm trying. He's getting really mad. Oh, yeah. Back in the form. That's actually a smart strategy. Oh, it totally worked.

These guys ended up letting him off. And that was why he wrote that in the yearbook is that was the big joke was just don't blow. Dude, if they ask you to blow, don't blow. That is so like him. But don't blow. I bet is he a successful dude, no? Yes, of course. That's a smart kid.

He was very smart. Raven was a, you know, I don't know if your school had this, but we had the stoner kids, and then we had the exception to the rule stoner kids, which are the typically the ones I hung out with, and that's why Raven and I were friends, was even though he was a stoner, he was a, he was all advanced classes, he's 4.0, we got it, we got it, he was a stoner. He was all advanced classes.

He's 4.0. Like, we got it smart. He was a smart guy. Do the same clicks exist today that used to exist? Of course. Have to. Have to. I don't know.

We need to ask Enzo because he's on the high school, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, because, okay, let's call the clicks out, right? There were the stoners. Stoners. There was, did you guys have like rockers? Like dudes that were into like heavy metal and rockers. Yeah, we had a whole there were the ravers. Did you guys have ravers? Where they were really we didn't have a ravers. I think we call them ravers or disco. I don't

remember, but they weren't Maryland, Maryland, Manson. I saw a couple pictures in your uber. No, we had kids that would wear the really big pants and then they put their hair up kind of funny and they'd wear colorful lipstick and they look like Ravers from remember remember ravers from the 90s. He would how they would dress We really didn't have that in heaven. Yeah, cuz I mean I'm really you guys were on the cuts. Yeah, exactly See we're both for both you guys had cowboys. Yeah, I bet you guys had job. Yeah, absolutely We had one we had one we had one dude who dressed like a cowboy and he was get he got relentlessly bullied for it Like every fucking for a guy. I actually been in like a real like cowboy fight. We're like to do this

Let's get him like you know like little like it literally started like that You pull out the cowboy We're the hawk tie it. We do know we do know who school was the most We do know we do know who school was the most least funded maybe or Your yearbooks are like somebody drew a picture and they made that the some kid in the art class like just decided I'm gonna laminate this like the picture of I gotta post a picture of this I'm gonna laminate this. It's like the picture of, I gotta post a picture of this, bro. That's ugly. It's like fucking Cougar ever seen.

I mean, it's cool if a kid did it and brought it to you. Like, that's pretty good. Come on, now one's okay, though. I can even run over here. It's like kind of embossed a little bit. That one's better. That one's a little bit better. I mean, apparently we just did try it like hard.

Why do you have a sleeve on yours? I hear a lot going on. These are like, these are like text books, you know? These are all like, so, so, even though I grew up in a small town, that we only had one high school. So like, you guys have like 20 something high schools around this area or how big was your class?

Well, at our school, small too, man. You guys have a small class, very small. Do you know how many students you had in the school? I don't remember how many hundreds, wasn't that many. Oh, mine was huge, thousands, oh yeah, mine's 2000. We were, yeah, we were like 1800 to 2000 students,

so you had a good, good three. It looks like it too, because you could tell by the size of the yearbook, like I think mine might be a little bigger, because we had a pretty big high school. Yeah, we had a small high school, did. Yeah, because you could tell they're kind of thinner, right? I had my junior high high.

I didn't even realize it. That's why I was so impressive. We kicked the shit out of everybody, you know? It was just like, everybody had huge schools, and we were just like this tiny group, and it's interesting because most people that were in our area too would go to Santa Cruz. And so we were just like, basically from Boulder Creek,

to Ben Lomond, and then felt, and that was like our picking. So it's interesting, we got any talent from that small population. One of the biggest differences between the three of us, well, you both, not necessarily identify, but you really remember that era as, you remember that era. It was so not memorable for you.

Just not all my whole school career. All the school was like that for me. Like I had cousins and stuff and that's those are the people hung out with. Well, I didn't like that. I didn't like, I didn't care for the academic side of school. I didn't like that. I liked school.

I like friends and I was kind of grazed, didn't like that. I liked school. I like friends and I was... What kind of grades did you guys get? I was three. I think... I was at three-five and then I went down to like three-three, I think, my senior year. I ended up with a three-two average, but I went as low as like two-eight one year.

That was like my, I had a year where I fucked off. Chemistry. I got a lot of trouble and grounded a lot and stuff like that. And so, but the rest of the years, I was three something. I always had to be an athlete. Well, at least my parents said I had to have a three O to play sports. So the school required a two O, my parents required a three O. Now here's the thing, is it because you studied and worked really hard?

Oh, no, no. No, I memorized it right before the test. That was it. That was like my formula. Kyle, what did that tell you about the state of, it was nothing. Is that a learning? Yeah, dude.

I didn't learn anything. Oh, that's so bad. I didn't enjoy it. But I enjoyed the social aspect of school. See, school was blast and memorable for me because I have all these crazy memories of first of everything. First kids, first experience with a female, first sport ever playing, first real level of competition, first fight, first party.

I mean, there's so many first for me that happened. It was like proving ground in that in that in that era that that that is forever memorable for me for those reasons as far as school like school itself. I couldn't tell you my teacher's names, you know, saying I maybe have one or two that were really impactful. I have one that comes to mind the one and I think I've shared on the show before that was the English teacher that pushed me to go in advanced English, even though I knew grammatically I was terrible, but she pushed the way I thought. And that really, that probably projected me to be probably more of a deeper thinker than I would have thought I would have been if I had been held back normal English because

of my grammar. Isn't that crazy the impact a teacher can have on someone's point where you're a grown man now. It's been 20 years since you've been in high school, but you remember that. Yeah. Well, the crazy part is that it's taking me this long of my life to connect to how impactful it was. Because if you would have asked me that five years at a high school, I would not make that

connection. Later on, of like learning more about myself, strengths, weaknesses, things that, and then going like, okay, where did that come from? Like, why am I confident to speak my mind or do these things, but that I'm not afraid of making grammatical mistakes that I don't let that hold me back because that holds a lot of people back.

I don't think like that because, because of why? Well, where does that come from? And as I go deeper and deeper and deeper, I go, oh shit, that's crazy. I distinctly remember not thinking I belonged in an advanced class, having literally having a conversation with the teacher and saying like, and her asking me like, do you think you want to do this?

And me going like, no, I wonder how different it would have been for you if you were a kid today with spell check and how it checks if your grammar is, you know, how much different it would have been for you. Be interesting. You know what I mean? Yeah. Because I would assume kids today don't really worry about misspelling shit.

I know. How hard I never misspell anything ever now because it shit corrects it for you. You know what I mean? Except for the platforms where it doesn't. And then it, unless it corrects it, and it puts it out of context like it's in a different word. It's happened a few times.

That's the wrong you were. Yeah, like this isn't what I wanted. Yeah, dude, that's, that's, that's, I was early on, you know, early on I was really into training. I was into fitness, I was into exercise, I was in lifting weights, and I was studying it, like I do now, but I went out to the gym. Well, so when you think about that,

that's something too that it's, it's more memorable than you think than that probably, at that time in your life, that might have been the first thing that you ever truly have applied yourself to and and did for yourself, right? If you kind of skated through school too Or you never really really gave your heart and that was probably the first thing that you probably gave your heart to and Said man, what if I actually apply myself to it and you did for sure? I already had that mentality where you know if I had a problem or I had a situation that I would work hard and figure it out.

That was always my mentality. But resistance training or exercise, the thing I love most about it is it's such a clear black and white example of sacrifice and reward, sacrifice and reward, hard work. And this is what you get. You make a mistake and this is what happens, and then you figure it out. And it's very black and white because life is complex. So many different things can influence how things turn out

that sometimes it's hard to connect the dots. You tend to connect the dots backwards, right? You tend to look back and be like, oh, I can see what worked, and that's kind of the problem or the challenge with life. With exercise, especially with weights, it was, it's so black and white, like, oh, I got stronger, that worked,

or oh, I'm progressing, that worked, I'm working hard, I'm watching my diet, these are the things that are changing. And so it reinforced that within me, and very early on, 15, 16, 17 years old, I was training people, not professionally, because I couldn't, right? You had to be 18 years old to become a personal trainer,

at least at the gyms that I knew. And so, but at 16, 17, I was writing workouts for people, I was training people, I was helping people out, and I was studying, you know, how the body responds, I would read these books on anatomy, I would read books on chemistry, so I could figure out the best supplements and how to take them right.

So, when are you doing this? Obviously you're not doing it at school. So, in your past time, you would be picking up books like this. I would get home from school and if I was working out with my cousin, we'd work out together. If not, I would do it myself. Literally right after school would come home and I would go in the backyard and I would spend two, two and a half hours training and then reading and learning shit. Or I'd go to the, then when I got a little older,

I'd ride my bike to the YMCA and I'd go to the Y and I'd learn and study and ask questions and read and do all the stuff. So it was in my spare time whenever I had time. I would just, and I would get every magazine. So I read Iron Man, Muscle Media 2000. I read Muscle Mag. I read of course Flex and Muscle and Fitness,

and I mean every Muscle magazine you can think of, I would get, and I'd get all the books. So I get stuff by Mike Menser, stuff by Arnold Schwarzenegger, stuff by Kennedy, by Vince Garanda, and I would buy these books, and I'd go through them and I'd read them and study them, and I just found this passion for it. And that really helped me when I got into fitness

as a career because when you first, you know, and I also, of course, I learned this from my family. To have my, both my parents were hard working. So I got work ethic from them and all that. But when I got my first job, like part of the reason why I was so confident and assertive is because I'd been studying this shit, you know what I mean? So, although looking back, I didn't know much compared to what I know now. I knew way more than, you know, most kids go on. It's interesting to think back kind of like when I first actually like started teaching people like fitness and writing programs and just helping people out in that direction.

And I can think back to when I was in college and I was going through this course, I think it was called Urgogenic AIDS, and there was also like biomechanics, but what we did was a lab where it almost like you know, the presidential physical fitness, like they had standards, there was like a standard for like sitting reach or just standard, yeah, for like body fat. And so I was like testing basically the entire campus, and it was all under my, you know, this was my assignment, my project. And I just realized that like, I don't know, I did really well with it,

explaining, you know, what was going on and what to shoot for and all that stuff. And then like, I found myself just randomly helping people and I was working out all the time, dude, because I just lived in the gym, you know, trying to build myself up for football because I was kitten the shit kicked out of me so and then you know that was like my angle with girls all said I was like hey you know let me help you out and so I started helping them out like as they were in the gym because I didn't know what to do and they'd ask me

questions what I was doing do you feel it here and I was like, well, this is such a powerful, so ironic you may have. Powerful weapon that I have now. Yeah, yeah, the irony of it is that I'm married. Being a young, being a young personal trainer, I mean, I was 18, 19, you know, and 20 hours managing gems on it. That was such a, like a cool thing to tell a girl, like a girl's like, hey, what do you do? You know what I mean?

You're talking to another 19 year old girl. Sure. Like, um, personal trainer's like, wow. Well, you know, it sucks. Oh, you could help me. Yeah, exactly. Like, hey, what do you do? You know, in your 19, you're talking to another 19 year old girl. Like, um, personal trainer's like, wow. Well, you know, it sucks. You could help me. Yeah, exactly. Yes, I can. You know, it sucks, I was my first client,

or the first person that I ever tried to, you know, I was even officially a personal trainer, but the first person I ever trained was when I was 18. And at that time, I was still working at the dairy. And I had purchased a national certification because I was going to move, I had decided that, I was going to move to the Bay Area. And so I had already bought the certification,

I was kind of reading through it over the summer and I had been working out for about a year and a half that at that time and there was a guy that used to come and deliver parts at the dairy and I got to know him and he had a kid that was in high school. And he asked me to train his son for the remainder of that summer. And I trained his son for that summer. And I remember I was really mad that he didn't pay me, but what he did do, and I pissed that I don't still have this, is, you know, he had made me this really nice like it was a white gold or you know or sterling silver or something

It was a nice money clip and it was custom and had my name on it on the back It had certified personal trainer and it was at the year and I had it for a while and I was changing it You know mace's or something way back when and it fucking slid out of my pants and I never got it back ever again And I think that would be a cool piece to have Right now consider right right right, but that was my for very I was even a real personal trainer I was I don't fucking know what they all I taught you guys Remember what I taught you Do you guys know the girls name to the Christian folder? I was like, who's that?

I probably gave her like horrible advice. Oh your first time. Yeah, what's her name? First name? Kristen. Yeah, hey Kristen. Hey Kristen shut out. Yeah, I only trained you because I thought you're hot Do you guys remember the first time you you stepped into something and you felt that feeling like this is what I'm supposed to be doing You guys ever get that feeling? I know you guys are very passionate. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that this was this was like that Is it ever get that feeling where I'm like, I know you guys are very passionate. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, this was like that. Oh, what we're doing now?

Oh, for sure. Yeah. You know, it's funny. You know what it is, and I don't know if you guys can relate to the same feeling or not, but it's like this, I'm uncomfortable, because it's new. So I know it's, I'm uncomfortable, but I'm very excited to learn, you know, and I'm really enjoying the process.

It's kind of like all those feelings wrapped into one when you settle into something brand new like that and if it was right or what. And you can see things real time work and not work. And so it's like, it's exciting because when you hit strides, it's really like, you're like, wow, this is happening. I think it's an important thing that people learn to find that because it's so unique to every individual. Or if you do find it, you pay attention. Right, and this goes back to the thing that I always echo, which is the stop focusing on what you're not good at,

focus on what you're good at and be great at. It's when you have these moments, like if you have this natural passion already to feel, fuel that, feed that fire, don't think you need to fit into a category or box or do what someone else told you you should do. I mean, I can clearly name a few times where, and I remember it was very, very distinct.

Growing up as a kid, I wasn't shy, definitely wasn't shy. I had a certain level of, I guess, whatever you want to call it, confidence or charisma, but it wasn't, it was also combined with a feeling of a little bit of that shyness or whatever. So like, if you put me in a large crowd or a big party, not really my scene, you have me talk with a few people,

and then I'd kind of come into my element. So I had these little glimpse of how I'd feel when I'd feel in my element, but I never really grasped onto it until I became a personal trainer. When I first got into the gym, and that very first day when I got, I sold all that training that first day,

and then the next day, and then I felt like, holy shit, I belong here. Like I really belong doing this. And the next time I felt that was when I managed, when I became a general manager, when I was was when I managed, when I became a general manager, when I, so when I was a trainer, and then when I became a general manager, I got that feeling again of like, oh fuck, this is, this is exactly what I'm supposed to do. I didn't get that feeling again for a long time, even when I own my wellness facility

as much as I enjoyed it and like what I did, I never got that feeling of like, oh, this is what I'm supposed to be doing until the day that Doug and I filmed video for Map Santa Ballock. That, I remember it the very first time, Doug's like, okay, I want you to, you know, we're gonna make a video on this stuff and you're gonna explain people to people how to do these exercises, you're gonna talk to the camera. And he turned that camera on,

and I felt like I was totally like, oh, I remember telling him afterwards, I was like, oh shit, I feel like this is what I'm supposed to do. Like I feel, I have that feeling that I used to get when I first became a trainer, and when I first managed gyms. And it's funny, because each successive time I get that feeling, it feels more and more powerful and real.

And I think it's cause, and this is gonna sound very esoteric, but I feel like I'm being directed, right? Like I'm getting closer and closer. And the most I've ever felt it ever was the first time we got on a podcast, the very first time. Very first time we hit record. I mean, it's bad as we were, as nervous as we were, because I can listen, and I've done it,

I've listened to the old episodes, and I cringed, but I also had laughs. I listened to that one on the floor. You have? Oh. Someone on the floor, I've just posted, did it for our 800, and someone did it as a throwback. It can be hard to watch.

It's very hard to watch. But it can also, I mean, it's also like, I remember what that felt like, and it was like, you know, I didn't have the experience, we didn't have the talent, or that we were nervous. It didn't come across, we didn't feel nervous, I didn't feel the experience, we didn't have the talent or that we were nervous. It didn't come across, we didn't feel nervous, I didn't feel scared, but I think all of us felt that excited nerves, you know?

But I know all of us felt like, this is exactly what we're supposed to do. That was the discussion after the first episode was like, this is what we're supposed to do. And I've never felt it like I feel it now. And when you feel that, if things feel easy, and I don't mean that they are easy, they're hard, and they're challenging, there's work, but it's like, it flows. I don't know how to explain it. Can you think of attributes that you had as

a high schooler, you know, thinking back to right now, so we get the year books out and that that are, that have, are playing a role now and you're role within the business right now. Well, that's feeding into the strengths of it. Well, for sure, I mean, just saying what you're saying right now, obviously, because that's an important piece to what we do right now. Well, for sure, this ever since I was young,

but it definitely has I got older in high school. If I felt like somebody was either being taken advantage of or didn't have a voice or couldn't have a voice or too scared to have a voice, if I felt like somebody needed help, I was very outspoken, very assertive and fearless. I wasn't like that for myself, so something happened to me. I mean, if you really pushed me, definitely assertive,

I'm not gonna let people push me around. But if I saw that shit with someone else, I would speak up. Or if there was something happening to me, I mean, if you really pushed me definitely assertive, I'm not gonna let people push me around. But if I saw that shit with someone else, I would speak up. Or if there was something happening in class, or if there was a debate or a discussion, I felt very passionate about. I could echo that. And so for sure, you know, through, I mean, you know, our message and stuff we communicate, like,

if I communicate something, I feel it, you know what I mean? And I can see that from, you know, when I was a kid. I don't know about how you, what about you guys? What about you Justin? I don't know. It's an interesting question. I think that growing up in high school, like I tried to consider as many people as possible. So I tried not to like stay so much within my click.

I definitely moved around a lot and tried to spend time with other people, you know, and other friends. And I had like my core group. So I had like two of my friends that were like, it was like the three of us always like doing stuff. But like at school, I was always kind of floating around like talking to other people and getting their perspective. And, you know, like I was, I don't know, like, it is much

of, I feel like I was an asshole. Like, I was really like seeking out like where everybody was coming from and like trying to kind of empathize on some level. Like, you know, what everybody was up to and stuff. And so I had a really like diverse group of friends, friends, like loose friends. You know, not like, I had only like two, like real solid like core friends. But yeah, I was like, I knew a lot of people. But I think like for me, like, I've always been super creative. And if you get further in the yearbook, you can see how I vested that creativity,

where I was in like a talent show. And I was like, behind the was in like a talent show. And I was like, behind the scenes, like helping out with like the drama. Now, when did you put that together that was something that you liked or that you were good at? Was that in high school? Or was it even before high school?

Um, so before high school, I did a little bit of like, putting myself out there as far as performing. Like I did, um, one time I did like this lip sync competition thing and so this is before it's all glad I asked this question. Like before it's all cool. It's like L.O. cool J. You know, it's on TV now. Right, that's actually a funny cool thing now, right?

Right? Like I'm like, oh good, I wasn't like an insane dark for doing that. You know, I did feel kind of like really silly, but yeah, I did, I think I did a primus song and then I did like, oh, my favorite one. This was on a stage in front of you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I would have never done that.

Yeah, and then I did one, which was hilarious that I got away with this. I was trying to press the boundaries. Like, I was like that asshole that would, I would try and like, make it, make a joke, but getting trouble by doing the joke. Do you know what I mean? Like, I was kicked out of class a bunch of times for pulling a prank or something really funny that I thought, like, I was so fucking bored,

like, I wanted to like, cause havoc. You know, so I mean my friend, I pull my friend with me. And we would sit. 100% Justin and I would hung out and high school. Outside and we were just laugh about it the whole time. And I didn't learn shit because it was bored. You know, so like, so as far as like the performing thing goes, I had this one lip-sinking song.

It was King Missile. Do you guys remember that song Detachable Penis? Yes. Oh my God. So I fucking like they didn't know I was coming out with that song. And so you're singing detachable penis. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I lip syncing detachable penis and like, like going through like he's walking, you know, like, like some days I take it off. And then I'm like, like, like miming the whole thing and putting it over here. And like, you just see the faces of the teachers were just like, like dumbfounded. How epic was it for all the students though?

Oh, they're dying. Oh, I bet. I bet you crushed that there. Yeah, that was a good one. But like the rest of them, I was like, I remember I was like the white knight in that. What do you think it was? Do you think you got the thrill of the response of the crowd?

Like what was it as a kid that was like, oh, this is fucking cool. I just like, yeah, I liked the attention of like getting in trouble for really dumb reasons, you know? I don't know. Like I wasn't really like malicious about like, I didn't want to like, you just heard anybody or like, you know, like, you weren't mean, you were a rascal. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I was like, that kid that just was like, this is all stupid.

What are we doing? You know, like, I don't know, that's just how I've always been. One thing I feel like we all have in common, I don't think any of us could keep our mouth shut when we need to, when we wanna say something. You know what I mean? I feel like all of us were like, I've always been a big mouth, always.

Yeah, since day one. Teachers, like that's the thing is like, some teachers would put up with it, because sometimes it was funny, but then when it get annoying, they'd send me the principal. Yeah. So it was like, well what's unique too is everybody, everyone kind of paved their own way to it and we're very, we're individuals in a time that it was, it was not popular.

Like in high school, everybody wants to really fit in and be a part of a click and something that we do all have in common, although how different we all were in school, is I too can say that that's, you know, I was known for being one of the guys who I had friends in all the different categories that didn't, other clicks that clicks didn't hang out, like I, because I connected with anybody that was in a class. And in high school, you go six periods where, you know, I'm with a different group of people every, potentially every single period. And so I had friends in every single class. I didn't have only my friends that I had since middle school and then we only when we saw each other in class.

I had friends in every single class. And if you sat around me, I probably was your friend. So I didn't matter who you came from or what clique you ran with. And I think I had that personality really early on. I think you guys had that too, even though maybe we tend to, people would have probably identified us with someone else, but we are individuals like that,

which is what makes part of this all really unique and actually work out too. It's like, we have this ability to be independent leaders, but then also cohesive enough to be able to blend with each other and not like overstep each other. I think that's even trails all the way back to like when we share and talk about the high school stuff because I think about that like, you know, it's really tough to be doing

what we do right now without personalities clashing. Even being older guys, whatever like that, you would think that it would just be natural that eventually. Can we keep saying that shit? We're going to jinx ourselves. Really? I think we get closer as we continue to go on. Well, you're right. I think we get to know each other even more. Well, here's the other thing too, is we talk about shit. Like, I think a big problem with a lot of people working together is that they don't talk about

stuff. And so it builds up and you build resentment and stuff is held held we talk about it on the podcast after time You know what I mean? I mean that's true and it really I tell you what you want to dissipate pressure or you want to dissipate Ten chin yeah, just fucking talk about it now you can't do this with people who don't wanna talk about shit or don't know how to talk about stuff. Like, if you try to talk about something with someone and they just get all angry and emotional and ridiculous, you can't have a conversation.

So then it becomes very difficult. That's all the resentment comes from. Yeah. You're just holding onto that and then it just turns, it like builds into something a lot bigger than it should have been. Do you guys remember like big evolutions in your way of thinking, you know,

from as you were growing up until now, like where you just had these big shifts and the way you viewed things or looked at things. Do you remember any of course? I mean, I remember, you know, I just shared this on the, on, was it on my, oh, on my Instagram. So I did a quote, faith without work is dead. And the reason why I posted that quote was

that I was listening to Jay Prince's memoir and Jay Prince is kind of the guy behind Floyd Mayweather and Drake. And I've never heard anybody else use that quote before and it's a quote that I used to use, but the reason why I used to use it is kind of unique, right? I've, you know, I forget the context that he was using it in but I found that verse because I had this moment that you're talking about in my life because I grew up very religious and one of the things that my mom used to always say to us is just, you know, we needed to pray and

have faith and believe, pray have faith believe and God will provide, God will provide. Like that was a very common theme and message that was set at my house. But yet, you know, we found ourselves a lot of times having to move because we couldn't afford to be in this house or evicted or whatever or struggling to get, you know, what's, you know, pay the bills and shit like that.

And it just didn't make sense to me that, you know, God didn't want to put some of the responsibility on ourselves to go do all this stuff. Like, we're just, he's, everything's meant to be, the way it's meant to be, and to pray about it, and let life unfold. And I'm just like, it didn't make sense to me if he gave us free will that we're not supposed

to take action somehow. So I remember like digging into the Bible because that was the only way I could communicate with my mom because she would always throw that back in my face. If I were trying to argue with my mom as a kid, she would throw back Bible verses. So I knew if I was gonna bring a good debate or debate something I'd have to find it in the Bible right and that verse comes from the Bible faith without work is dead

Mm-hmm, and I had a young age which is around high school time I believe is when I'm reading this I remember reading that and going like I knew it I knew that that they he doesn't believe that we weren't supposed to do anything about it. There's more to it than just believing. You actually have to take action. And that's what that verse was all about. Well, that context.

That's where, that's what believing is. Believing literally is taking action and doing what's meaningful. Because otherwise, why would you do anything? Why would you do anything that's meaningful? Because meaningful stuff is fucking hard. It's not expedient, it's not great. But you'd be surprised how many people believe that

that come from the place of everything has a plan and a meant to be and that I'm just going to pray about it and it will... And this sir, just going with the whim and the momentum's going to carry on there. Right, first is believing that they actually have free will and they have control of their life. Sure, because there's a lot of people that mistake that,

they think that's an insult because God is in control, you're not in control. So for you to say that you're taking control of your actions, we'll be going against that, right? So then instead, I, Yeah, no, that's, I feel like that's the wrong way to look at it. So this was a very, I could see that I was raised this way.

Yeah, I could see that. So all the way up and in high school was when I really started to question it, I wanted, because I wanted more for my life. Now when you found that and that shift of the room, oh, then you were on fire. Switched it on. It turned me on into the beast that I am today

when it comes to my work ethic, because I just put that moment, I figured like, nah, and I remember too, like I remember the harder I worked, the more it served me too, and the happier I was. And I'm just like, that doesn't see, this doesn't make sense to me because my parents made me feel like it was that we were to pray, hope, and believe that it would happen.

And if we believed strong enough, if we had enough faith, it would be provided for us versus taking the action. And once I kind of disproved that for myself, which that was that verse and why I'm expanding on this, kind of disproved that for myself, which, you know, that was that verse and why I'm expanding on this, is that was a big time for me, that was a big reading that I came across,

that forever shifted my paradigm. And I now went on this like, uh-uh, I'm not believing that anymore, like I'm taking action. And that was when I started working. I started working every chance I could. If I had free time, if I wasn't playing sports or with my buddies,

I was working to make a money. I wasn't fucking around doing anything else you know I didn't have which is probably Why was also a good kid in high school? I didn't have time for drugs and for sure I did the occasional like you know getting drunk and party and after football games and when I was a junior and senior But for the most part I was I was already ambitious and wanting to make money because we didn't have things I can not can identify With that a lot. I mean, that exact story just because like, even just going through that same sort of environment where it was, it was definitely, and my dad came back from Vietnam and, and I understand why he,

he's like so grips on tightly to faith and, and, you know, his belief system and, and praying and like, that that's gonna carry him through because that was real. He had to have that mentality to make it through that environment. But that's what he was trying to instill in the same thing, in the process with us.

And I think too, but very hard worker, and he was top of the sales and like everything he did. But that wasn't stressed as much as like the release of like, you know, the humbleness that you need to come forward with versus like, you know, being out there and going and getting it. But I definitely gravitated more towards, I'm going to work. You know, I want to get my own, I'm going to pave my own path., I wanna figure this out for myself. And I always felt like I was, I was, you know, going against what I was taught by doing that and like my brother.

Well, this is what led to me getting arrested. So this led to me getting, my parents calling the cops on me and then them taking my car away. Cause once that mindset went for me at 15, like I was on the hustle from then on out, like working as much as I possibly could. And I had like, you know, we lived on the other side

of the tracks and you would come in our neighborhood, not a very nice neighborhood, but then you come in my bedroom, my bedroom was nice. Because I had money. Because I had money. Because I mean, I bought my own quilt, my own pillows, my own TV that was in there, like anything that was in my stereo system,

that was, I paid for everything. So my room looked as cool as a high schoolers room could look, right? That was me because of that moment and I went off like that. And I don't know why I was just, I interrupted you just then, but I was wanting to tell you,

so you triggered me on something you just said about your dad. want to tell you, so you triggered me on something you just said about your dad. I think that you, you, you, you're two, there's two types of people that emerge from that kind of environment. One is I do all the things I'm told because of the arrested story. That's how you tell us. Yeah, that's what I was going to tell you. That people save it, please. People, you know, we'll do

what they're told or what they're supposed to do because they're afraid of the consequences. So I'm just going to do this rigid thing. And then you have people that will visit the other side to examine what should they do I want to. And I think that's what you guys are talking about. I'm the same way. Yeah, totally.

Yeah, I'm the same way. If you look at my, if I examine my own spiritual development or my spiritual belief, it for sure swaying in very extreme directions because I'm learning as much as I possibly can. I'm examining, I'm reading and seeing how things feel, but it's funny how now my age now I'm starting to realize the importance of these. When I used to see, you'd see this cliche all the time, right?

You'd see this all the time like mind, mind body spirit, mind body spirit, total health and wellness. What the fuck does that mean? It's just mind and body. What do you mean by spirit? Like, what does that do? But I'm starting to understand that. Like, I'm starting to understand what that means now at my age now.

But it took me, it took me to go in the opposite direction for a while. Absolutely. And I think that, like, my whole process was trying to just define my own faith and like my own ideas and my own like opinions and I just it took me a long time to do that you know because I felt like I was always trying to please you know my parents are like trying to you know do things in a direction that I thought that you know that was gonna that's what everybody like almost expected of me and so that's where I ended up really making it my own ambitious idea to graduate from college

because everybody like pretty much dismissed me from going for some reasons. So that was like a trigger for me. You know, and like me going through that process was everything because not only did I know that I could set myself towards something and accomplish it at a high level, but my own opinions and time away from all my friends and starting completely over and developing and understanding who I

was as a person and like what I believe in and everything was like that was super impactful. So so much of that happened in high school man. So I want to hear about your arrest. Oh, so yeah, that just, so what that set me on was this, you know, that was my way of rebelling. So I wasn't the kid that was doing it. Now why did you get arrested? You guys fighting?

Yeah, no, I was playing that. So, you know, my way of rebelling in my family was to like, you know, I'm no longer listening to my parents in this like sit around and just pray for it. I'm gonna go take action and make things happen and so I I think that was as a young little spitfire teenager, you know I was constantly working hard and buying things for myself and doing things for myself and I remember that when I was 16 years old

I remember my my parents grounded me from the car, which we had a car that was like a hammy down, it was a beater that everyone ended up using. It was my transportation, which I was totally excited to have, but the only problem was it was another thing that my parents could hold over my head. So if I didn't do something right or I didn't do a chore, I talked back, or whatever you would do, my parents would ground that from me.

And when they would ground it from me, they would actually take it to where I couldn't use it to go to work either. Well, I worked at 3.30 in the morning at the dairy before school or at four o'clock in the afternoon, after school during the week. And it was seven miles away where I'd go so they would take that away from me.

So. And that's obviously, I mean, as a smart kid, you're like, well, that doesn't make any fucking sense. This is my responsibility. Of course. And the way I take that as from me. And that's obviously, I mean, as a smart kid, you're like, well, that doesn't make any fucking sense. This is my responsibility. Of course. And the way I take that as a kid, knowing that I'm telling you right now that I'm the kid that starts, that's the way I'm rebelling.

And so that's what an awful way to punish me, but to just to make your point, right? That it's like, you're grounded for not. I bet you were a mirror to them. You're probably reflecting to them what they weren't 100% I mean. For sure. Absolutely.

So that, and I see all this as a kid. Like I put this all together. And so I started, I ride my bike, dude. If I got grounded at four o'clock in the morning, I'd fucking pedal my ass to work. I'd have to get up an extra half hour early so I could be there on time. And I remember crying in shit on the way there,

like angry, but I was responsible. I didn't go stay on bed, oh, because my parents wouldn't like, like, I fucking got to work. I did my job still crying and like a baby the whole way there. And she like that, like angry at my life. Hope we all get out of this thing one day, right? But, you know, it taught me a lot and it changed who I was for the rest of my life.

And when I came home one time, or when I, they took the car from me one time, my chain breaks on the way to the dairy at four o'clock in the morning, right? And I'm fucking, I break down at that point. I call my girlfriends mom, she comes and picks me up. And I'm like, I gotta do something now. And I had saved up $1,000 at this time.

And I call my grandma because at this point, I'm only what 16 years old, I don't have any credit to me, but I have a thousand dollars that I've saved up. And I ask her if she'll co-sign for me, and I wanted to go get like a little Ford Ranger old, you know, older pickup with miles on it. So they like 10 grand put a thousand dollars down it and have a payment. I have a consistent job. And so my grandma and I told my grandmother what happened. My mom had in my grandmother was had work, had work ethic was totally different than my mom. So when she found out she was pissed,

and she's like, I'm coming down there tomorrow and we're gonna go take you to get a car. And I was like, cool, of course, teenage boy, right? Like, fuck yeah, grandma, grandma saves the day. So grandma comes down, we go to go shopping, and my grandmother's like, you're not gonna get some used car that's gonna break down and you're gonna have to fix and do all this stuff like that.

I'm gonna take you to get a new car. And my grandma went to me and bought me a new car. Oh, wow. And I drove it home. And when I drove it home, my parents said I can't have it. And I was like, you gotta be kidding me, right? Like we did everything. Signed paperwork, it was, I have the car, it's my car, right?

I'm still, I already, before I even took it home, I took it to all my friends' houses. Like I was so excited to have this car. And when I walked through the door at my house with it, my mom looked at me and said, you take that car back. And I'm like, this is my car. So my name, I'm paying for it. Yeah, this is mine.

And my mom's like, you take that car back. You either live here and you don't have that car or you live in your car. And I was like, that's an easy decision to live in my car. So I went and packed my bags. And I took off. And I left. And I was fucking, that's an easy decision to live in my car. So I went and packed my bags and I took off and I left and I was fucking living with a friend for like a week, right? And I hadn't seen my parents, I'm fucking out. Like they gave me the green light to be out, I'm out.

And I'm sure I would love to hear my mom tell this story one day on her side what it was like, like if they were going like, fuck what do we do? Is he really gonna take off for it? Cause I was out, that's in my mind. So it's a freak them out. Right, a week later, I gotta eventually re up on clothes it because I was out, that's in my mind. So it's a freak them out. Right, a week later, I gotta eventually re up on clothes so I come back, right?

In the afternoon time to come pick up another bag of clothes. And I walk in like straight B line it for my room, packing a bag, and I'm walking right back out. I'm never coming back. That's the way I'm thinking. And my stepfather steps in front of the doorway and he won't get out of the way. And my mom goes straight for the phone.

I'm like, hey, I'm outta here. And they're like, no, you're not, you're staying right here. And she gets on the phone right away. She calls the cops and nothing's even happened yet. So my mom calls the cops. And then I'm like, I'm outta here. And I started to walk by him and then my stepfather gets in my way and then grabs me and then him and I

are wrestling and fighting on the ground. So like that, I'm headbutting him and shit. Oh, shit. Yeah, so we're getting into it. But he's, I mean, he's massive compared to me at this. I'm a little 140 pound kid, right? So he manhandles me and he holds me down until, you know, fucking four cop cars roll up.

Cause I live in a small town, so something happens every cop car shows up to this one house, right? And Santa's A, we can give a fuck about this. Cop car rolls up, cops come in. They come in the living room. And the cop ride away, just starts laying into me, chastising me.

We deal with little punks like you all the time. Bob, Bob, Bob. Yeah, cause now he's like, this is my job, I'm a teacher's kid, a lesson. Totally. So he is just laying into me and I'm just, I'm crying, right? I'm bawling my eyes out,

sitting on the couch, cops standing over me, saying like this. And I look up at him and I said, you don't even know me. And he looked back at me and he stand your ass up, boy. Told him to stand up, turns me around, cuffs me, takes me to the police car, sits me in the back of the police car,

sitting in my neighborhood with all my neighbors and people that around me in the back of a cop car for like two hours, right? And he's eating their wives, talking to my parents, then he comes out and then he drives me down to the police station. I go down to the police station, talks to me in the car again for another two hours,

more, and this is where I find out I have no, as a 16 year old boy. I have no rights. No rights. He's like, all that, and I'm telling him, you don't know my family, you don't, I'm like crying about my family, I poured me a type of deal, right?

That shit to this guy. You have no idea who you're talking to, right? Like I'm a nice kid, I don't do drugs, I don't do this stuff, right? Everything in my room is mine, they can't take that's mine, he's like, no, everything that you think is yours is theirs. They can lighten on fire, they can sell it tomorrow

and you can't do shit about it until you're 18 years old. And I was like, fuck, dude. And so that's what happened, man. The guy, he didn't rest me, or anything like that, they had nothing to get me on. I don't know that, though you're a 16 year old boy, cops get you, like,

now when that's all done and said and done, were you thinking yourself like, I'm still running. I don't know that though, you're a 16 year old boy, cops get you like. Now when that's all done and said and done, were you thinking to yourself like, I'm still running. I can't wait till I'm 18 and then you guys are never gonna. So I told my parents and I stuck to this for a long time actually. I was done speaking to them. I was like, I literally, I literally said like.

We're no longer talking. Silent Trump, you've been starting now. They took the day, sent the car up to my grandmother to take the car back to San Jose. So the brand new car gets parked in the garage. I don't have the car. I'm living back there. I'm told I have no rights.

They took my car, had me arrested, did all of that. And so I was like, okay, you can force me to live here till I'm 18 years old. And you'll never see me again after that. And I told that and I said, I'm not and for dinners, bro, I just sit there fucking. Just mad bro. It took like six months before I finally broke down. And then all of a sudden, like when I got to my last six months before I graduated high school

and they knew I was leaving, right? Then all of a sudden they got cool. They all suddenly let go. When I think when they realized when I really was gonna be gone in six months, they only had six months left with me. They became the loosest parents and started to give me my freedom.

And that because of that, that was probably the smartest thing that my parents ever did because I was on this, like I really had that one. That's gotta be a tough situation to be in to be a kid, fight with your parents like that, and to know that you're the one that's right. That's gotta be a very strange situation,

because look, all kids fight with their parents, especially teenagers, but at some point, you know, as a kid, you you're like well, you know, yeah, I was being kind of shit Yeah, or it's like they're not it's not fair, but it's not really not that fair, right? But something like that you got to be sitting there like racking your brain like am I in the fucking toilet? I do wrong what like I'm actually doing everything I'm supposed to this I feel like I'm in the fucking another Dimension well it really made me question a lot of the morals and things that my family had lived by for a long time. And so I went through this phase where I went from being like, you know, hardcore kid and all the religious kid and in church three times a week, to really questioning it and wondering like,

this can't be a good book, this can't be right, you know what I'm saying? And so then I kind of questioned it and then it came kind of full circle later on where I realized like it was less of the message and more of the people receiving the message. I just didn't have very mature parents at that point. It's an understandable way to decipher it, 100%.

Because I mean, what better way to judge something other than the thing itself by the people who represent it. Right. So that's a very just, I mean, understandable. You completely understand how a kid could do that. Right. For sure. Right.

So that was a very frustrating, confusing time for me. Like I'm reading something and I'm interpreting it one night. They are another, they're my parents, I'm wrong. Like the only way I could argue with my mom is if I threw other Bible verses at her. So, you know, like, it was with the best training grounds that I ever got for that. Six nine.

So I mean, I appreciate a lot, I mean, much of it too. So as much as I harp on all that stuff, you know, talking about, these were also some of the, I was reading the Bible at the deepest time during high school for sure, because I was even teaching it at that point in my life. And so much of my morals and that foundation comes from that. And I was creating my own identity

with it at that point in my life too. So would you say you had that, the things that you learned, and then you saw ways to not be? Yeah. And I realized that the book itself wasn't the answer as much as it was what you took from it and how you applied it, because my parents were an example of how I didn't want to use it or apply it.

But yeah, and at first I was dismissive of the book like many people are because of things like that, which I can see. And I have empathy for people who look at it like that. I'm like, that's because it's been interpreted. It can feel oppressive. Right. Like you could use it like that. And and really like misinterpret the entire message just by sort of like taking and paraphrasing, you know, certain passages to sort of fix this narrative, you have. It's taught by insecure people all over the world. Same thing that's happened with like all the media, like anything on the news, like you just get all these little snippets of ideas and it's not like, like,

it's just, it never works out. Like, you got to know the back story, you got to know like what the entire overarching message is, and then where you fit into that. Well, it's like anything else. I mean, it's even like fitness. I could definitely look at a representative who lifts weights a lot and works out, and not know anything about exercise,

not know anything about health and say, oh, I'm not gonna fucking lift weights. Look at that guy over there, look at that girl over there. Look at that girl over there. Look how dysfunctional they are. Look how unhealthy they are. Look at the problem. That guy heard his back and fucking really bad doing squats.

I'm not doing squats. Squats are bad. Squats are evil bad now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's how the human brain sort of categorizes because we try and simplify it. Sure. It is.

I mean, I went through that process with, I mean, my family, I mean, early, because at 18, I was training, 19, I was managing, and there was a point where I had to decide, was I gonna go to college, or was I going to pursue this career in fitness? And I remember sitting down with my parents, and I sat down, and now my family,

remember their poor immigrants. My mom came here when she was four, but her dad and my grandparents were immigrants and very poor. My dad was very poor growing up. He came here when he was 19. Neither one of them had any schooling past high school, at least my mom at high school.

My dad went up to fourth grade. That's the furthest he went in school because he had to work. They couldn't afford anything. So talking about education, my parents was very interesting in the sense that neither one of them had gone far in school. So it wasn't like they valued it like people

who went to college, but at the same time, they valued hard work and they knew that that was a good path. So I remember sitting down with them, and here I am, I've been, you know, now I've been working in gyms for about a year, and I'm loving it, and I'm off at work all the time. I must have been there 16 hours a day, at least, literally.

And I sit down with them, and I'm like, hey, I think I wanna do this, and I don't want to go to school. I don't think I wanna go to school, because at the time I wanted to go to school be a physical therapist. And my parents, my kind of looked at me, and the thing is, I had already go to school be a physical therapist and my parents my kind of looked at me and the thing is I had already proven to my parents that Whatever I put my mind to I would accomplish So that was in my that worked in my my my favorite like I think my parents believed in me as a person

Not necessarily in what I was doing but more in as a like okay Well if Sal says he's gonna do this then we can trust in this play out We can trust he's not gonna fuck around. Like, he's serious about it. So that was kind of in my favor, but we had this huge debate, you know, at dinner, and my mom was like, you know, you go to school,

finish school, then you can always go back and work in the gym. I'm like, I don't want it. Like, this is what I want to do. I'm doing good at whatever. And I remember I pulled out my paste up, and I showed, I had a $7,000 paycheck for two weeks. I had destroyed it one month and had all his commissions.

And that's a lot of 1998, right? This is shit ton of money. And I'm 19 years old. I'm making more of my parents all right. So I showed my parents the check, and I remember my mom was looking at it. She shows my dad, and they're both like, fuck, my parents look at me go,'re doing you're making good money

I said I'm just saying I said yeah, I'm doing really good and so my parents said well We still need to talk more about this so I went to work and at this point I was moving into the sales side so I was a weekend manager or senior sales counselors what they called I did that for about a month but my manager who was my good friend and became one of my first mentors, Don, I had this conversation with him and I sat him down, I said, look, here's a deal. I said, you know, if my parents aren't cool with this, then I'm probably gonna have to go to school

because remember that, you know, my culture and my family is very much like you respect your parents. So I sat down and I talked to him, I said, but I'm having this discussion with him, so he says, can I come to dinner? So I said, okay. So Dawn actually came to dinner. Oh, wow. And he sat my parents down. And you know, the cool thing about Dawn, one of my first, again, my first mentors and now good friend of mine, is Dawn is an extremely convincing individual.

Actually, one of the best salespeople and communicators you'll ever meet. If you sit down and hear him talk and we met with him, you know, he's just just, and you fire. He's compelling, right? So he sat down and he closed my parents. He actually sat down with my parents and told them why I need to take the next two years, we said, give him two years and watch what he can do. And here's what can happen. Here's the opportunities and he brought some graphs and actually show my parents. And my parents gave me their blessing. They were like, okay, go ahead and do this thing

and see what happens and that was it. But that was a very interesting thing to bring someone home and have them talk to my parents. That's the way I do it, bro. That's the way I do it. No one coaches that have done that. Really? So to win over, yeah, to win over athletes,

especially to sway them to get into certain schools and stuff. But yeah, that's great that have done that. Really? Yeah, to win over athletes, especially to sway them to get into certain schools and stuff. But yeah, that's great that he did that for you because I mean, that's a big deal. It is. And we didn't go to, we had certain customs in things in my culture that I identified with strongly, but didn't understand why they were important,

just identified with this is who we are, type of deal. And then as I got older, I thought they were ridiculous because they're just, oh, it's just a tradition. Like what's the big deal who cares? Like here's a good example, like, like this is a big thing in my family. When you show up at a person's house, I don't care if there's 50 people,

you go up to each individual person and you say hi to them. You can't just say hi. You have to kiss everybody. You're in the face. Yeah, you gotta kiss them, shake your hand, and make sure you go to the, Oh, I'm gonna show you the way.

Make sure you go to the, the grandparents first. Right, make sure you go to the old people first. Like, definitely say hi to your grandfather first. And if I didn't do this, we'd get in trouble when I was a kid. You gotta go say hi to your grandfather. And so I didn't do this, we'd get in trouble when I was a kid. You gotta go say, how do your grandfather, and so I didn't identify with it.

Yeah, this is what we do. And then it's like, at older, I was like, this is stupid, who cares? I was gonna wait everybody, whatever. But then as I got older, I started to appreciate the other side. Well, I started to appreciate that we make a big deal about how we enter into a situation and we show everybody we acknowledge everybody.

They feel that too. You acknowledging them know something that they'll carry with them well I started I started realizing you know as I got older that that these customs and things exist Because they're valuable. That's why they exist, but we forget why They were valuable because then there's such a there's such a custom that you just do it You forget why why why does that exist? Like here's another one, like when we sit down to have dinner, you don't eat until everybody sits down and everybody's ready. Everybody has a party. Everybody's ready.

And I always, I look at this shit, just eat your food, it's not a deal. But no, it's because we're sharing something that's important together. You know, we're doing that thing that we're, respect is a very big thing in my culture. And then hard work is another one. Well, imagine how it pissed you would be if there's five of us in a tribe and we just got a big kill

and we just ripped the meat off and it's all there. And one dude's already digging in and I've just got done cutting it, cooking it and I'm bringing it back to set it all down and you're already digging your face into something that I hunted for the last eight hours. Like, be pissed. I think there's like a respect thing

that that's all about, too, right? There is. And that's like, and hard work is another one. Yeah. Playing it's the biggest piece. Yeah. In my house. You know, hard work and for, you know, my family

was a very big thing, but it's funny that nobody talked about it. I never got lectured on it. Nobody ever sat me down and said, you need to work hard, you need to busher ass. It was just, that's just the way we were. I never got lectured on it. Nobody ever sat me down and said, you need to work hard, you need to bust your ass. It was just, that's just the way we were. Like my dad worked seven days a week,

most of my life, why? Because he had the work. I remember one time, I was kind of like, I said, it never dawned on me that it was a lot, right? And I mean, he would come home and have dinner, but he would be up at work at 5 a.m. and he'd become home at 4 p.m. and his work was, you know, difficult. You know, but he would be up at work at 5 a.m. and he'd become home at 4 p.m. and his work was difficult.

It's a very manual labor type thing. And I remember as I got a little over, I'm like, well, that's a lot. Nobody does that. And I remember talking to my dad, I said, why do you work seven days a week? He's like, because there's work. And I remember, I remember, like,

well, that makes sense. Like, why would you turn it down? Like, if it's there, you know, you got to do it. But at the same time, he made time for the family, we made time to do things. On the times when he didn't work, we would make sure to go have quality time again. And I remember that.

And I remember having dinners every single night. But it was never, it was never really discussed. It was just, this is just. That's just how it is. Yeah, and my mom was like that. My mom was never, and nobody ever complained about it. Yeah, that mentality is, yeah, it's a lost art. It is, and also the other thing too,

is something that I learned, that I didn't realize that I learned because nobody talked about it. It's just what was expected or how we were. If you work or help someone, you never expect. Something in return. No, you don't expect anything in return. I never, I worked with my dad for a long time on the weekends and

The way I understood it what as I got older remember I was like Probably about 16 so at this point like I'm actually helping him I'm actually working because when he brought me when I was eight you know, I was fucking around I don't really know what I was doing but by the time I got to like 14 15 16 I could actually work and help him and I remember at the end, sometimes, he'd hand me cash and I'd be embarrassed. Like, no, what are you doing? Like, no, I don't want your money, dad, and we have to fight over it.

And then he'd force it, and sometimes he'd give it to my mom and say, give it to make sure you give this. And I'd fight with him to the point where my dad had a conversation with me, he's like, I'm gonna pay you and you're gonna take it. Otherwise, I'm not gonna take you anymore. Right. So I was like, okay. Like, that is a very lost thing, you know, with kids nowadays, you know? Cause they expect something in anymore. Right. So I was like, okay. Like that is a lost, that is a very lost thing, you know,

with kids nowadays, you know? Cause they expect something in return. Yes. And you see that a lot with like, you expect to be manager by now, too. You know what I mean? Or you see that with contractors and people working for you and it's like they show up and the meeting they have

with you about the job that they may have, they want to put down as clocked hours and weird shit. And it's like, what are you doing? Yeah. I would have never done that in a million years. It's an opportunity. I want to prove myself, you know, that what I'm doing is, or whatever. We just live in a different time right now, man.

It is, it is a different time. It's a very, very different time. I mean, there's a lot of hours I didn't get paid working in the gyms. That's for sure. Are you kidding me? I feel like I've worked half, you know, like, non-paid hours as I have, you know, paid.

It just seems like there's just been so much of like learning that's had to happen to be able to actually get to a point where I feel like, yeah, what I'm doing is valuable to where like, you know, I've gone and I've done all the labor that brought me to this point. Do you guys learn any like young like money lessons, like early on?

Like, the money lessons I learned, served me and also fucked me growing up because I learned from people who grew up very poor and also generations who were so poor, insistingly that food was an issue. So my lessons were don't spend money and save it. I never learned how to invest, I never learned how to buy investments.

And so I was a 19, you know, 21 year old kid. So this is, I've been working in gyms, 18, 19, 20. 21 years old, I had over $100,000 in the bank. I drove a fucking Volkswagen and lived at home. Which is crazy. For a 20 year old boy to have that much dollars in the bank. I drove a fucking Volkswagen and I lived at home. Which is crazy. For a 20 year old boy to have that much money in. Cash. Yeah.

I mean, in the bank, liquid. Like had I known to, because I was scared to buy anything or invest, because there was always like, what if the value goes down? So we were very much like, save it, you know what I mean? Which served me well during the recession, I guess. Kind of saved me there, but fuck, man, had I invested that money as a kid?

Especially in the Bay Area. Holy shit. And then the money you do decide to spend, you spend it all on something that you were passionate and loved about, right? The one investment, most that went into the gym, right? Oh, my business. Yeah.

When I did that, it was very much, because I was just like, this is me working, this is what I'm gonna do. But even then, I was a little bit like, I got flack for my, definitely for my parents. Yeah, I didn't learn any financial advice or planning or anything for my parents. That was not like something that was transferred over to me.

Other than I knew that by working, I could get what I wanted. Do you know this is why I knew? I love what you're doing with your boys right now. That's what I was telling Katrina this the other day. Like it was, and I know I've already said this a couple times on the show. I love you talking about it because I think the reason why I love hearing it is I wish I got that, you know, I wish that I understand. That's like, that's like your intro to economics for these kids, you know what I'm saying? Like that's such a great

way to give them a taste of that at an early age so then you can develop that as they get older. So when they are in junior high, high school, they have a very good clear understanding of how this household operates, how we pay the electrical bill, how does it work? How is Daddy gone a lot of the time? Like, there's a reason why you... I remember I had a client, I was probably,

I might have been 22 or 23, maybe a little older, and I had a client that asked me, like, hey man, how do you, you bought this business? I think where did you get the money this and that? I'm like, oh, I saved it and I left in the bank and he goes, you know when you put money in the bank, you're losing money, right? And I'm not like, what the fuck are you talking about?

He explained to me inflation and why saving money was actually losing money, I had no idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Blue. No. My mind. He's like $10 today is gonna buy less than $10 a year from now.

So what you can't do is just save the money. You gotta actually invest it so that it grows faster than the value drops. And I remember sitting there, I've been living a life. It's so life. Oh my God. Fucking blew me away.

Who was that? It was somebody, I won one of my clients. I don't remember actually who it was, be honest with you. I just remember that lesser. Yeah, absolutely brilliant. Blue my mind. Early 20s when that happened.

Yeah, early 20s. But I was conservative, which was good, because it did save me during the recession because the mortgage I had on my house, I fixed at my house, I fixed at 30 years and at that time, it was not popular to fix your loan. No, no.

Everybody was doing these, yeah. You know, five arms. Yeah, like you just go for it because you could just expect everything to go for it. Well, everybody thought they'd buy two, three houses. That's the path I was on. I was on this path where I was trying to buy a second and a third house.

That was a hustle, yeah. I had family members who had at 1.4 houses who were not making that much money. And I remember being like, how the fuck are they? And of course now they have nothing. They lost everything. So that part saved me a little bit, but it hurt me in the sense that I wasn't able to learn

how to grow it. No, I didn't get any lessons like as far from my other than to how not to, you know what I'm saying? Like I started to put it together that You know, we weren't super responsible with with finances like you know as a kid when you start You've had enough nights where it's like oh, we're at candlelight tonight We forgot to pay the PG need like you can only forget so many times It's like okay, we're probably can't afford it

You know say we're with because somebody doesn't get paid till Friday That's the reason why we don't have the lights on. So my lessons were all like that. I wish I understood investing. I wish I... It's funny because it's some of the most valuable stuff that you could learn. As a kid that you don't learn at all. Or even built to build credit, right?

So that's something that a lot of parents don't talk to their kids, especially teenagers too, that I was scared to do it. Like my parents made me feel like we were in the position we were in because of credit cards, like credit cards were evil. Yeah, like they were evil and bad and like stay away from them. Like that was their fucking advice.

Like okay, like thank God for me, I realized it, like you know I had a lot of other bad advice they'd give me, so this might be bad advice too. So I should look deeper in it myself. And then I find out like I'm ever being a kid in my late teens and finding out that I need four lines of credit ever being a kid in my latines and finding out that I need four lines of credit to buy a house. Well four lines of credit, how am I going to do that without a credit card? Like I have to get at least one or two credit

cards plus a car loan and like there's no way I can buy a house if I don't do that first. So I began doing that. So I ended up buying. I was going to buy the I bought a car and I was going to I was going to finance it because I was like, I don't wanna pay the whole thing cash. And then the guy goes and he's like, he takes my driver's license and everything and he comes back and he's like, you don't have any credit. And I remember thinking like, what do you mean? He's like, do you have any credit cards?

I'm like, no. Never. I've never had a credit card. I had to pay cash for it. Because I had no credit. That's crazy, you've mentioned. Because I remember it wasn't until I got married that I finan no credit. That's crazy, you mentioned, because I remember it wasn't until I got married

that I financed anything. Like that, everything I had was literally just like I have money for this and this equates to this. Damn, you didn't get your first credit card till after you got married? Yeah. Holy shit, that's crazy. Yeah.

I mean, it was debit card, but I never used it. Yeah, no. Yeah, I was like, I literally, because my parents said that and I was already on the mission of, you know, find out for myself, right? I went on the opposite, like, so I used to have like this leather, I was collecting them. Like, how many, how many, I literally had like,

30 credit cards, dude. It was crazy. And I was like, I turned it into a goal. Like, how much can I get the limit up by paying them off, running them up, paying them off, running them up, paying them off. So, I just started to create this big ass, but I had fucking crazy by the time I was 23 years old. I had a 800 and something FICO score.

I never missed a payment. I had 30 different credit cards. Some of them were maxed limit at $30,000, $50,000. That stuff, and it was never told to have loans to pay off. So I'm not like, you know, like that was a big deal. I need like credit card to add on to that, so. But that's stuff that I wish someone would have communicated that to me as a kid.

Economic, I totally wish all that. That's why I think that's why I'm really trying to tackle this, you know, as early as possible, is like at least just the education. Yep, yep. Economic ignorance is one of the biggest problems with just in general, just in disempower of you.

Well, adults don't know, don't understand how economics work because we've never really been taught. And when you take econ in high school, it's shit. It is a terrible, you don't learn any general principles. Yeah, like you should be taught in school. You should be taught, or it's definitely the parents job, right? Because I'm going to do, teach your kids how to navigate, credit, how to understand how loans work,

how investments work, how money works, teach them economics so that they can understand the stuff because you learn that when you're young. You don't have to make these mistakes as you get older. You just understand it, you figure it out, and you start when you're young, by the time you're in your mid-20s, you're way ahead of the game. I mean, had I known what I know now, when I was 21 years old, leaving up my parents' house at no bills, just had, you know,

I was getting paid, you know, 120 grand a year, as a man, I would have, I was been, I would have been retired right now. I bought everybody in my band's equipment. You know, I was like, I was really passionate about making it happen. Did you really? Yeah. You bought everybody's equipment? Yeah, I was making a lot of money as a long time. Did they give it to you after you guys disbanded? Of course not, dude. They get to keep it? No, I mean like, well, yeah, I didn't like,

like the tax man coming in and like grabbing everybody's shit, you know, at that point, just let it go. Give it back to my present. Yeah, I was doing it to like make the dream happen, you know, I was like, I didn't really look at it like, oh, you're gonna owe me this later, you know, but like, yeah, I mean, it'd be cool if they would have- Did I ever tell you guys how I got fucked with the airline

miles, the frequent-filer flyer things? I never told you guys that. Oh, so this is during this time of like me having all this pride of having like credit cards and having good credit and everything like that. I was making good money. And this is also during my very insecure days of feeling the need to pay for everything

and do everything for all my friends, just to show them that I had money, type of deal, right? And I decided, let's go to Vegas, man. And I had just got a credit card just recently that finally get miles, like someone finally said something to me, like, you have all this credit and all this credit card's for that. Why aren't you getting points?

And you pay him, like, you get me, he's like, my boat being. Yeah, right. So I got a Southwest credit card, right? So, these credit cards for that, why aren't you getting points? And you pay them, like, you get me as well. My boat being. Yeah, right, so I got a Southwest credit card, right? So, and so I decide that I'm gonna get, I built it up, right? So I'd been going up and down, paying it off till I had good credit with that

and I'd accumulated a bunch of miles. And the miles was, I can't remember what the number, exact number was, but it was a fuck ton of miles. It was like, you know, $500,000 miles or something ridiculous, something a lot. And so I was like, oh, dude, I have enough miles, I'll buy everyone's flights to Las Vegas.

And the way you do it on those type of credit cards is you pay for it on the, you use the credit card to buy the miles then you call in and they just, they subtract however many miles you have from the total. That's how that works. So you gotta buy them first. You don't just get to call up and say,

can you buy those tickets? Oh, I know that, okay. Yeah, so that's how that works. So then, so I just go ahead and buy everyone's flights. Like seven dudes fucking round trips to Vegas. And everyone's fucking pumped. Yeah, Adam's got us, right? Tevideo, and I'm like, big deal, I got this. You know, Tevideo, like it's, yeah.

Right, I get the points. Well, I find out later on that it's not mile to mile because I did it like this. Like, oh, how far? I've got 500,000 miles. Yeah, literally. Yeah, but 100,000 miles equals like, you know, like one way to Reno.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I could fly to the moon. Yeah. Yes, dude, but it's a total scam. It's how they get you. And so I was somebody who got suckered like that where I ended up having to pay for fucking seven people's route trips. I mean, it was a couple thousand dollars that I thought I wasn't gonna have to

pay for that I'd have miles. I ended up eating all that and that was and I don't think I ever told my friends. I think I was so embarrassed about what an asshole. That was just that's like a money. So the women me think this is a money lesson that I learned like what an asshole I am doing something like that that I just took on like a $2,500 credit card bill trying to be cool Because I had that one. Yeah, I've eaten a few things. Yeah, talking about like spending money that you shouldn't have spent man My fucking fucking and this isn't because I got divorced either by the way because I can always look back and be like anything I spent with the ways but the engagement ring that I got my my wife

That was a fucking idiotic move. Not because you shouldn't get a ring, but because I was managing gyms and never spent my money. I wanted to show, you know, like this is, you know, I'll cue it. You went in big. Bro, 18 grand, about an 18,000 dollar, yeah. And I was 20, I was 21 years old.

It had to be an impressive stone. Bro, I went to Tiffany's because everybody said that's where you're the best place to go. Yeah, of course. I walk in the end of it. Although I do have an embarrassing story from there. I walk in there and I'm looking at them. I'm like, oh, I like this one.

And I tried to haggle with the guy working there. Nice. Yeah, and I'm like, I'll take it. This is how this is my words. Exact my exact words are said. I like this one. I'll take this for this price out the door. Out the door right now. Out the door. The guy looked at me like, what do you price out the door. Out the door, right now.

Out the door. The guy looked at me like, what do you mean out the door? I'm like, no tax, this is the price. And he's like, yeah, we don't really do that here. He's like, we don't really run sales. He's like, yeah. I'm like, listen, I'll pay, I'll be doing here. I'm like, I'll pay cash right now, cash right now.

But you have to do this price. He's like, sir, you're making me uncomfortable. Out the door. And the guy looks at me and he must have been like, what's this fucking kid? Because I'm a 21 year old baby face kid. And he's like, yeah, no, that's what we don't do anything. So I said, listen.

All right, I'll call some friends. They're gonna come down. They're gonna buy something else. Yeah, like, what are we looking for? No, I'm all, take, I'm all you gotta take it or leave it. He's like, I'm sorry, man, I can't do anything. So I said, all right, so I turned around to walk out and I was like, walking slow, expecting him to be, was expecting him to be like okay, okay sir. Sorry sir

We'll take your money. You're like doing a little look back like yeah, yeah, I took my time I took my time walked all the way out the fucking front door I turned the corner and I'm sitting there on my arms cross and I'm like mother fucker That's budging. I'm like that's the ring I want. I'm like I got to go back in there So I went back in there. Oh, you still money I went back in there. I went back in there That is a bear because I wanted it. That's what I want. So I like all right You spend so much money on a fucking rock wow Damn it. Yeah, I didn't use it that much

I had a lot of money. It's a lot now, dude. It is a lot now. I had a lot of money. I worked. I didn't spend a lot of money. And I don't know. I think a little bit. It was a statement. I'm pretty sure my ego stepped in for a second.

Yeah. I'm pretty sure my ego is like, get the fucking one. Everybody, yeah, everybody's gonna see the boss. The girls are gonna talk about this one. Yeah, what a champion you are. Yeah. Bling, blingo. It would have been just as cool. I could have spent like three grand. And I should have everybody would have been happy you are. Yeah. Bling, blingo. It would have been just as cool.

I could have spent like three grand and I should have everybody would have been happy. Oh yeah, yeah. I could have taken the rest of the money and put in a separate account for when I got divorced. Right. Save that one. Yeah, same with the wedding.

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