Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 811: How to Improve Hormones, Choosing Between Bad Movement vs No Movement, Needy Significant Others & MORE

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Starting point is 00:00:37 you will get 20% off any organify supplement. Then we talk about my pre workout, stimulant caffeine, bomb that I did yesterday. I actually was able to see into the future. Then we talk about the butcher box, sirloin cap and chicken. Let me tell you something right now, it's fucking delicious. Yeah, we didn't really identify exactly where it was on the cow, but it's delicious.

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Starting point is 00:01:17 Then we talk about a new medical procedure that's getting popular that Adam's interested in getting. Libya Plasty. Oh. That we, that more. Then we talk about the difference between men and women. We talk about fights, clicks, and nicotine vaping in high school.

Starting point is 00:01:36 What? So by the time we cheated in school, there's some random stuff in here. And then we finish off that introductory part of the conversation, talking about hot teachers. Then we get to the questions. The first question was, if you had to choose between the two, would you rather do bad movements or no movements? You have to pick one or the other, which one?

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Starting point is 00:03:31 All right, we have 13 reviews. Recording now. Hold on, let me guess. Let me guess. Is one of them have to do with a maple leaf? Yeah, you've got it. What's the name? Nachos.

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Starting point is 00:03:52 I knew it. P-W-L 1984, cubic Kenny, Minecraft Nacho. He measures everything in cubic. All of your winners and the name I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com said your shirt size, your shipping address, and we'll get that right out to you. Bank it. Did you finally try it just in you on? I mean, you're always there.

Starting point is 00:04:10 I am. You always last. You always last growing up too. You know last last picked. No. Obviously. Obviously. Obviously.

Starting point is 00:04:20 That's hilarious. Yeah. Stupid. Stupid. I was going picking everybody. Hey, have you tried my green pancakes yet or what, my whole course? I was telling you, dude, I, like I before, it was the fourth of July, I was trying to do something

Starting point is 00:04:33 special for the kids and like we've done, we've done like, we called them whole pancakes before. And I used to do that just with like kale and spinach and we'd try and like mix that in with like banana and like whatever else we could to make it taste like somewhat you know edible. You're tricking the kids. Tricking the kids, always trying to trick the kids. And then yeah, and then I asked you about because you had mentioned using it with the Organified Green Juice because it gives it a nice kind of a minty flavor. So how does that work? You just add it to pancake mix?

Starting point is 00:05:05 Yeah, no, no, no. It's a different recipe than that. So they have it on their website, exactly. You use almond flour. Yeah, we use almond flour. We use the green juice. You use a banana in there. And then the chocolate chips.

Starting point is 00:05:18 Yeah, so the chocolate chips money. Right, a little bit of chocolate chips in there because it's got a mint. Because of the mint. Yeah, the minty flavor. I gotta try that. Yeah, so my youngest ate those up, dude, like stacks of those things. I got to try that.

Starting point is 00:05:29 I got to try that. And the banana helps to kind of give it a little bit of texture if you want to add a little bit of that, but. Well, your kids eat something like that, so? Probably. Yeah. Probably, especially if I covered it with a bunch of maple syrup. Oh, you didn't.

Starting point is 00:05:42 You don't even need syrup, dude. And woodthread enough. Yeah, woodthread would be a good call. Yeah, you didn't. Oh, you didn't. You don't even need syrup, dude. It's sweet enough. Yeah, whipped cream would be a good call. Yeah, I like cool it. I want to see it with the chopper chips in there. And I only do a few of them in there and then just a little tiny bit of syrup over there. And it's good.

Starting point is 00:05:54 Just the drizzle. Yeah, it's a little sweet. Just a little snoop dog. But I haven't done that. But I haven't done, I didn't think about whipped cream or something like that. That would be bomb, actually. Like cocoa whip or something.

Starting point is 00:06:03 Yeah, over that. That's delicious. That Coco Whip is off the chain. It is. Dude, yesterday I was exhausted, right? Sure. After work. I think it was.

Starting point is 00:06:13 I know, we all were kind of good. Well, because we were up in, we were up at that place up in Carmel for the fourth and having a good time and going to bed late and talking all night or whatever. Yeah. And so I was tired, but I had to work out. It was yesterday was my,

Starting point is 00:06:27 it was the second workout of the week for the chest shoulder tricep area on MAPSPLIT. So this is like unilateral stuff, and I'm starting to go heavy on it now because of my last week in this phase, but I was fucking tired. And you guys know I don't typically miss workouts. I just, I hate doing it. So I'm like, oh, it's like, dude, I gotta work out, but I was fucking tired and you guys know I don't typically miss workouts. I just, I hate doing it.

Starting point is 00:06:45 So I was like, dude, I gotta workout, but I'm exhausted. So what I did was I did something that I would never advise anybody else to do, which this is what a terrible, this is what terrible trainers do. And it's funny, I train other people so much better than I train myself, right? So I'm exhausted. If I had a client that was really tired like that, I would tell them, don't work out. Or just go easy, just go easy. It's probably the smart thing to do.

Starting point is 00:07:08 But see, I'm trainable. But this is just me, I'm training. So on the way home, I stop over at the vitamin shop and I get the strongest looking pre-workout ready to drink. Oh, you did it. You told me you were gonna do it, you ended up in years. You did it. I did, bro. So that one you texted us, that picture? I did, I took a picture of it and part partly because I thought it would be funny. And partly because if I died, that way you guys would know, like, oh, this is why he died.

Starting point is 00:07:31 We'll tell every company to go out. We know exactly what happened. So I drank it and basically was on fire for a few hours. Like I worked out really, really hard, had trouble sleeping last night. I was gonna say that. So now I'm talking about the thing that I'm gonna say is that I'm gonna say that I'm gonna say that. and I drank it and basically was on fire for a few hours. Like I worked out, really, really hard, had trouble sleeping last night. I was gonna say that, so now I'm tired today.

Starting point is 00:07:51 God, what are they putting those things? That's the rack. You know how much caffeine was in it? How much? You know how much caffeine was in that thing? 200 mil. No, 200. That's for kids, apparently.

Starting point is 00:08:01 That's for kids. 350, just caffeine. Holy shit. Then there was some other shit in there. And then, I mean, there was all this stuff in there, That's for kids apparently. It's for kids. 350, just caffeine. Wow. Then there was some other shit in there. And then, I mean, there was all this stuff in there, but it also tasted like green apple. Like, I don't know how that happened. Yeah, so I drank the whole thing and I'm driving home

Starting point is 00:08:17 and I only live, I don't know, five minutes away from the vitamin shop. In the five minutes, I'm driving home. I already feel little pricks on my skin, you know what I mean? Little ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddD.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D. it's awesome to throw that in there every once in a while because we don't use it. I think when like there's those times where I'm like, okay, I could use a little like a jolt. Yeah, a little jolt today because I just am and a lot of times it's more of the mental state I'm in than the physical state.

Starting point is 00:09:00 I mean, sometimes I'm just overwhelmed with work stuff in my mind's other places and I I just, you want that dopamine rush? Right. I do. I just want that rush before I go in and man, that just, nothing gets me more. Now the only drawback of that is I literally cannot do it past like three o'clock. Like if it's hard to sleep. Yeah, it fucks up. You see? Yeah. Otherwise I'm fucking toast, dude. Well, I know all night long. It's obvious why they're addicting. I mean, it's, they are fun. I could see that. And if I was a kid and I didn't know any better That would be my go-to sure all the time. Yeah, so I was so popular I wonder if since we've I mean it's been three years since we've been kind of talking trash about pre-workouts

Starting point is 00:09:33 I wonder what the the increase of pre-workout has been over the last three years What do you mean the sales? Yeah, like is it increasing still you think a whole section at the vitamin shop was pre-workout There's a whole section there was because of it Change just rebranded. Yeah, if anything. It's it's just because they're addicting. It's it's addicting It's fun. I get it. It creates the illusion that you had a better workout and here's the deal You do perform better in your workout, but does that translate into better games? You know, I'm saying right Mm-hmm. I don't think it does. But it's fun and I'm gonna be honest,

Starting point is 00:10:07 I do, you know, look, when we go to these fitness conventions. I could argue, it does in the sense that like, okay, if you know, like you weren't gonna get that workout in, had you not done that, you know, like, is it? Now, I think if you compare it to what you said, which I think you're right, is, you know, if you just took it easy, right? Like if you really were overstressed, you didn't sleep very well, you needed to

Starting point is 00:10:27 get in the gym and you needed to train. I think your best bet is to still go train, but then go easy, you know what I'm saying? You don't need to fry your CNS, right? But I, but I could argue that taking the, the, the, the pre workout, killing the workout would be better than you not working out at all. So I don't know, maybe for me, because I never do it. So it's like a one off, you know what I mean? But a lot of people take it.

Starting point is 00:10:53 Oh for sure, for you. Every workout. Yeah, that's the thing. That's the problem is like now you have another workout coming up, like you're gonna be like, you're gonna wanna have that same feeling again and you're not gonna be able to recreate that, you know, so it's like, it's a temptation that's always gonna be there.

Starting point is 00:11:08 What I did was, because I've done this before while I have too many stimulants, I've done this probably a hundred times in my life where I've just overdone the stimulants and I'm like, ah, and I never seemed to learn my lesson. So what I did to, what I learned helps bring me down is if I eat a large meal. Like if I eat a large, especially a protein fat meal,

Starting point is 00:11:29 it seems to bring my level down and kick in the parasympathetic. So I had, I grilled up the, what is it, what do they, they call it something else, but it's a tritip basically from Butcher Ball. Oh yeah, what do they call it? That's the cap, the sirloin cap.

Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. Is that what they call it? Yeah, I believe, the Srinoying cap. Yeah. Is that what they call it? Yeah, I believe it. It tastes just like a tritip. Yeah, I mean, it's a very delicious kind of meat. I've never even heard of that kind of meat. You know, you should put it on the TV, Doug, and I know I've seen this on the internet before.

Starting point is 00:11:56 Picture the cow or something. Yes, there's a picture cow with all the different cuts and where they're at. I know the brisket is like right below the neck. So I love brisket. Yeah, so that's what forever. No, I did the cap. I did the cap. I did the cap. So I love brisket. Yeah, so. No, I did the cap forever.

Starting point is 00:12:05 I did the cap, so I had a whole bunch of that. I probably had over a pound of meat. And then I had some potato chips left over from the fourth of July party. So I had those two. How did you guys like that? I felt like you guys didn't even say anything about my tri-tip, man.

Starting point is 00:12:20 I really did. You did a good job, dude. How did you like that, hold on? You did a very good job. I was combination with the wifey there. She knocked out the mushrooms in the spinach. But you grilled it at the right amount in the barbecue. And I actually learned something from you with the barbecue.

Starting point is 00:12:33 Where you turned off, you turned on the two sides, yeah, left the two in the middle off, and turned it into like an oven. So, oh, there's the beef chart. Where's the sirloin cap come from, Doug? See if you can find that. Oh, right there the beef chart. Where's the sirloin cap come from, Doug? See if you can find that. Oh, right there. What is that?

Starting point is 00:12:48 And the cap would be the top? I don't know. Probably. So top sirloin. OK, so it's kind of near the, it's right above the junk area. Right? Right before the leg, like the round, and then it goes. I think we go up though, right?

Starting point is 00:13:03 The cap makes sense. It would be the cap the top of the, because the sirlo runs that whole quarter half of the the back quarter half of the cow It's probably the top. I like my favorite cuts ribeye. What do you guys so what so do you guys keep the same? Order from butcher box every month or do you change it every time? I haven't changed mine yet right now I'm on the every other month. Yeah, I haven't changed yet, but I yeah, oh, we've changed. I'm gonna change it Yeah, this next I think I'm gonna change it. We do the chicken. Oh, we do the chicken, I haven't changed yet, but I, yeah, I'm gonna change it. Oh, we've changed it. I'm gonna change it. Yeah, this next one, this next one. I think I'm gonna change it. We do the chicken.

Starting point is 00:13:27 Oh, we do the chicken. I haven't done it. I've just done all of it. I get my chicken thighs from them now too. Oh, nice. Yeah, I throw chicken in just because I like to mix it up, but at the same time, I'm not a big fan of chicken. Yeah, it's just a boring meat.

Starting point is 00:13:40 Oh, see, I love chicken thighs grilled in the barbecue. To me is like, oh, really? Oh, I get it. They're good, boy. Chicken thighs grilled in the barbecue to me is like oh really? Oh, I'm good I chicken thighs grilled in the barbecue white rice and like some green veggie man is like a stable breakfast table-breath staple meal for me for sure. I already eat it for breakfast though, too Definitely thighs are better than the breast That was you know, it's funny I think for the first probably like eight years maybe longer of my

Starting point is 00:14:02 Was I it's all used to do is it's breast, man. Don't look like that. Well, that was, you know, chicken breasts are so overrated. Can we tell you what that was? Yeah, definitely. That's an overrated piece. Why have they been sold so much because they're low-fat? Because they're low-fat. I mean, that's why they're so overrated, though.

Starting point is 00:14:18 I mean, it's like chicken thighs, so much juicier, better meat. Like, you get the fat. You get the fat that are good for you. Yes, yeah. You get better flavor. Oh, no. And you don't promote this breeding of chickens that look mutant. Have you seen the chickens that they breed?

Starting point is 00:14:32 The big ass chest. They look like, they look like, they look weird, brother. They get to look. They're like, no knack. They're massive pecs and they can barely walk. They look at you like, so, bro. There was a guy that used to work out at the golds on Monterey when I used to work out. I think I told you guys about him I used to call him captain captain chicken breast because

Starting point is 00:14:51 That cuz he ate a lot of chicken breasts because he literally looked like All he ever worked out in his entire life was his chest. Yeah, he had this a lot of those guys He had the smallest and skinniest arms. He had skinny legs He had no no back muscles, but he had, he looked like a chicken, like the ones that were... Did he wear a tight green shirt all the time? He wore a blue one, I think. And his girlfriend,

Starting point is 00:15:14 and his girlfriend would come follow him around and she'd load his bench press for him. He'd walk around the invisible. Yes, and then when he benched, because his chest was so big and his arms were so short and small, his range of motion was maybe four inches. Yeah, me, me, me, me, me, you know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:15:30 And that's it. Yeah, it's funny how. I always wonder what happens to guys that get stuck like that. Is it because what I think is some woman at one point complimented you. Like you guys just chipped, right? Cause they worked on forever. I try to think of like what would it trapped me into doing something like that's got a nice chest, right? And that's all they worked on forever. I try to think of like, what would it trapped me

Starting point is 00:15:45 into doing something like that? That's what would trap me, right? If I was in the middle of like building my physique and there was something I did, right? I just, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm just gonna focus on chest this month. And some girl was like, man, you just look so great lately. You say like, okay, that's it.

Starting point is 00:15:59 Chest forever, your chest. Yeah. Right, I love your big chest. Oh, cool. Yeah. Like what sends a guy on like training chest? Probably because he got compliments for your big chest. Oh, cool. Yeah. Like, like, like, like, what sends a guy on like training just? Probably because he got compliments for it. Or maybe he's good at one lift.

Starting point is 00:16:09 Like, maybe he's like a good bencher and he sucks at everything else. Oh, okay, I can say that. That's what he says. He's only has to go up. He's like barely an inch. Yeah, because his exercise is, because he used to always go at the same time I did.

Starting point is 00:16:19 So his workout consisted of flat bench dumbbell chest press, flat bench barbell bench press, peck deck, hammer strength chest press. It was always those four and a half. Not even any flies. Nothing. And his dumbbell press, he grabbed the hundred,

Starting point is 00:16:33 so he was relatively strong. Right. But he had no range of motion because he had this big, big chest and these short little arms. So he'd come down and he kind of tip the dumbbells like this a little bit anglim, so they kind of like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Oh, yes, everything's in. It was just really short, and down and he kind of tip the way you hold this towel for me.

Starting point is 00:17:05 And the way it's to me. Yeah. Speaking of which, so I was someone, I was, you know, we, all I talked to you guys about it. I want to try to, I'm looking at getting specialists, either on our YouTube channel or maybe on the show, and talk about breast augmentation because so many female competitors, you know, get that kind of procedure done.

Starting point is 00:17:29 That's an excellent idea. I think it would be a good idea because there's good ways to do it, bad ways to do it, how does it compromise shoulder function and posture or some ramifications, long term. Yeah, there is any. So before and after picks. Yeah, of course.

Starting point is 00:17:43 So I was looking stuff stuff up and then I saw that there's another procedure that's gaining popularity. But no. Labyoplasty. What? It's called Labyoplasty. Why? They go in.

Starting point is 00:17:56 It's been around, but it really is gaining traction. Gaining traction. So was that reducing like the size of a lip service? It's to make your vagina more aesthetic apparently? Huh, I don't know that that was a thing You know what I mean? So they go in and they trim the Labia in shape and whatever to make it look more if I was aesthetic if I was a chick

Starting point is 00:18:19 I'd be worried that that would mess with like yeah, I can't feel Sensation like that's that's like where all the sensation is going on. I mean, that's, I think I could totally see that bought that end up like, you know, like when girls, that's one of the things when girls get the breast implants. It was feeling, it was feeling their nipples sometimes. Like, and that's, that's a hot spot, man. Yeah, what if all of a sudden like,

Starting point is 00:18:39 oh, shit, I can't really work my work. Yeah, or even if you still can, it's just like diminished. Like that, like, if you, would you do anything to your pecker, if you knew that it would like, at all, if a 10% less good orgasms, like would you do that? No. I mean, we all got super sized. Well, I mean, they're not even for two more inches. I mean, there's penis enlargement surgery and I get that too.

Starting point is 00:18:58 So I'm wondering if the women that get this. How does that work? Penis enlargement surgery? Yeah. That's a good question. There's like still some inside. I think they might, I think that's what they do. They, they, they pull some out that's still in your body.

Starting point is 00:19:11 Did you know you're digs much bigger than you think? Dish. So much potential there. So much potential. This penis pumping. That's that, that's the same concept. I guess you're just sucking it out right there. No, that'll think that's the same.

Starting point is 00:19:23 But yeah, so they, wow. I mean, I guess't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know.

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Starting point is 00:19:54 and like, let me see, oh. You remember when it was weird that like people would have like a shaved situation down there? I remember when that became popular. Yeah, like, like that was like right when porn really was like mainstream. It's true. Because before that, it was nobody shaved. No, you know, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't leave that. Leave your big ass bush down there. Did you really like it? I'm gonna stay. Did you really like it or did you say it because you?

Starting point is 00:20:28 I think at that age, because this is my, this is teenage years, right? I think I liked it as a teenage boy because it was like, it was woman. And that was like, and like having a shave vagina for a teenage boy, it was just like, I made you feel like I'm doing something with a little girl. Yeah. So I think the, the, the ask in her to keep a big ass bush was like me going, I can see that. Yeah, that's I mean, that's what I think, you know, it's hard to say that was so long ago

Starting point is 00:20:52 for me, but I do remember I do remember that. I remember her like wanting animalistic. Wanting to trim it. I was like, no, I'll leave this big ass bush for a big ass bush. It's like a nicely pillow, you know? Yeah. I don't know what I was doing. It's funny because I'm sure that there's people who know you, who know who your first girlfriend was.

Starting point is 00:21:09 That's it. Adam used to like, this Adam liked your bush. Yeah. You know why they think that we have pubes to begin with? Because you obviously, if you look at a human naked, it's weird, we have hair like. I would think you would keep bacteria, disease, or anything from getting it, getting in.

Starting point is 00:21:24 No, that would only encourage things. Are you kidding me? It traps things. No, I figured the same thing why we have hair and rhinostros and stuff like that. So you don't, you breathe through your nose and that helps you, prevents you from inhaling dirt and stuff, but you don't breathe through your hip, through your, your, your, your pipe. Just keep it warm or what?

Starting point is 00:21:41 No, no. Well, this is a theory. You don't think air comes in and out of there? I don't think you're supposed to breathe through it though. Well, no, well, this is a theory. You don't think air comes in and out of there? I don't think you're supposed to breathe through it though. Well, I don't, yeah. Yeah, I don't think you practice breathing through but air comes in and out of there, buddy.

Starting point is 00:21:52 That'd be weird. Whoa. Wow. No, they think it's because the hair, so same reason why we have hair under our armpits. Like, why do we have armpit hair? Keep our armpits warm? No.

Starting point is 00:22:02 It's there because it traps our pheromones and we produce a lot of pheromones in our armpits. It is the scent. Yes, it reproduce a lot of pheromones in our armpits and in our private areas. And so it holds all of that in there so that you attract the other people. You're sort of, you know, wafting, you know, chote out there to the world. Well, we try so hard as modern humans to eliminate all smell completely, but there's an element of smell that is,

Starting point is 00:22:31 that we find attractive. We just don't put, you know, we can't put our finger on, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So. Sometimes you can. Yeah, yeah. So you guys ready for a controversial?

Starting point is 00:22:40 Oh my God. I know, I think I know what you're about to bring in. I didn't do controversial for a few episodes. Oh, remember you guys told me? This is gonna be a... Well, I saw you started up on your Insta story. Yes, you're very... So how much fire did you get?

Starting point is 00:22:53 Not much. Very crazy. Not much, to be honest with you. Really? Not much. I thought I'd get more fire, but I didn't. And it's, I don't know why things like this are controversial. So the Marines did a study to compare men and women, and they found that women get injured more frequently,

Starting point is 00:23:12 and they tend to shoot less accurately than men, also. And I think the reason why they're doing it is this is because there's a push now for female soldiers to be in battle more, or to include them in the field more or whatever. So they did the study. They did an internal study with everybody. It's like very current or it was just like over a span of like 10 years. Oh, I don't know how long it took, but they just did this right now.

Starting point is 00:23:38 It was 400 Marines that they studied here and they found that those are the things that they found. So I posted that and Wanted to see what people thought about it and most people were like yeah, there's you know So the study says there were notable differences in execution times. Hmm, you know So I mean what do you guys think about that? What do you guys think about the the differences? Here's a here's the thing the point that I made because I posted this in the forum and it stirred up a little bit of a Here's the thing that I made, because I posted this in the forum and it stirred up a little bit of a discussion. Yeah, what was the comment? I didn't get to read.

Starting point is 00:24:08 I had two female army, people who had served in the military that were women. And they were totally like, yeah, that's probably true. They said, you know, it's carrying all the gear that we have to carry, or pulling someone off the field who got injured, they're like, you know, generally women just aren't gonna be as good as it because we're not as big or physically strong. And so one of them said, what I think needs to happen

Starting point is 00:24:35 is we need to have a standard and it doesn't matter if you're a man or a woman, you pass the standard. And that's the way I look at it too. Cause I think in some segments, they change the standards if you're a man or a woman. Oh pass the standard. And that's the way I look at it too, because I think in some segments, they change the standards if you're a man or a woman. Oh, that's kind of silly. Yeah, which I heard that, yeah.

Starting point is 00:24:50 And there's some fire departments and police departments that do that as well. Which I think is crazy. I don't even think it's- Well, yeah, when it's life and death, it's kind of situations. And I know it's definitely an uncomfortable topic, because we all wanna look at ourselves

Starting point is 00:25:04 as completely equal on all levels, but there's physical stature and there's just things that are obviously different. We're not though. I know we're not. We're all different people, and especially men and women are definitely different. We're not equal.

Starting point is 00:25:18 And there's gonna be things that men are better at. There's gonna be things that women are better at. There's gonna be things that talk people are good at. There's gonna be things that short people are good at. Bottom's gonna be things that shore people are good at, bottom line. And when it comes to things that are fucking serving us or serving our country or potentially saving lives, I want the best man or woman in that position. I don't give a fuck, you know what I'm saying?

Starting point is 00:25:36 That's so silly to me. I think it's just political correctness, run amuck. Like when you have these departments, like there's some police and fire departments that do this they give different standards for men and for women and I'm not I don't care, you know man, woman, whatever you you figure out what the standard is and then whoever is doing the job should be a lot stick with it and it is and the point that I made in the forum about this was

Starting point is 00:26:03 there are clear, there are clear general differences between men and women that we've established now through decades of research, okay? General. And these, and remember, we're talking about group, we're talking about a big group like women and men, but when you go down to the individual, it starts to break down because there's such a massive variance. For example, I know women who can lift more weight than we can. I know women who are stronger than we are. There's, there's top level. There's always outliers. That, well, my point is, is that when we look at these general tests, really, what's the point of that? At the end of the day, it's, it's the individual. Here's your, here's your, here's what you need to pass. You either pass it or you don't. What is happened instead is in some of the day, it's the individual. Here's what you need to pass.

Starting point is 00:26:45 You either pass it or you don't. What is happened instead is in some of these areas, some of these departments is they wanna be so politically correct that rather than saying the right thing which is we're gonna be blind to gender. Here's your standard, pass or fail, and it doesn't matter if you're a man or woman, that's the right thing to do.

Starting point is 00:27:05 And that's actually the anti-sexist or non-sexist thing to do. Instead, what they do is they look at a police department or a fire department or whatever, and they say, oh, 90% or 95% are this gender. And this is, by the way, this isn't happened with female dominated spaces. Like, they don't look at nursing or teaching

Starting point is 00:27:24 and say the same thing, which is hilarious. Like, they don't look at nursing or teaching and say the same thing, which is hilarious. They don't look at teachers and go, hey, most teachers are women. We need to change the standards and get more men. And they don't do that with male dominated ones, but they'll look at it and say, okay, it's 95% men. We need to create or figure out a way to get more women

Starting point is 00:27:41 to be able to fill this need or whatever so that it's more equal. And then the way they do it is by changing the standards, that doesn't make any sense at all. But I don't think this is controversial. The part that I thought anybody on the forum that actually disagreed with. No, I had one message from someone. That one's too easy because I feel like that's not,

Starting point is 00:28:01 I mean, you thought it was controversial, but. Well, the part that I thought would be controversial wasn't the getting injured and strength thing because I feel like that nobody debates that because it's too obvious, like it's too obvious, right? The one that I thought people would have a problem with was the shooting accuracy one. Because it says that, do you think, do you think,

Starting point is 00:28:20 do you think, do you think, do you think, it said that men check this out. It said that men with no shooting experience, many times would shoot more accurately than women with shooting experience, according to the study. Now, here's a deal, again, it breaks down at the individual level

Starting point is 00:28:32 because at the bottom line, you could take an individual and they could be amazing man or woman. But generally speaking, this, you know, an anthropologist and scientists have talked about this, there's a certain type of intelligence that that men and women have talked about this. There's a certain type of intelligence that men and women have evolved to have.

Starting point is 00:28:48 For example, women verbally are generally tended to score higher than men, verbally. They're better communicators. They're also can read signs of feeling and empathy much better than men can. This is just general. Of course, there's men that are much better than some women and vice versa,

Starting point is 00:29:03 but generally speaking, they do better. When it comes to noticing movement and at accuracy, men tend to do better. And it makes sense, of course, we're guessing, but it makes sense if you consider men were the hunters that we probably were selected. It's hardwired somewhere. Yeah, there was some selection going on

Starting point is 00:29:22 where men had to be better at throwing a spear or noticing you know patterns and movement in the distance and focusing on it so we could hunt or whatever. Whereas you know women notice, here's another one, women are much better at at noticing shades of colors, different colors. They're also have a more keen sense of smell, which again makes sense if they were the ones that were gathering, that they could pick out the fruit that wasn't poisonous or the ripe, whatever, or they could smell something and see like, okay, this is safety, or this isn't safe. No, that's true.

Starting point is 00:29:54 I remember we were talking about just walking, as we were walking through nature and we stopped for a second to look like, oh wow, look at this vibrant color. Didn't even notice it walking through there a few times until we stopped and really paid attention. And it is something that, unless you're constantly conditioning your brain and your eyes to pay attention to, it's like you categorize everything to be more efficient. Well, this is exactly why I have Katrina

Starting point is 00:30:20 do other grocery shopping and why I don't come. I don't need any. She picks out better food than you. Absolutely. I think all that food than you. Absolutely. I think all that food's a good deal. Do you do the hunting at them? Yeah, I was like, Hey, if we ever have the hunt, I'll be the one to do it.

Starting point is 00:30:31 You know what I'm saying? If we ever do. He throws a rock at the stake. I got it. Hey, you know how speared it? That how is this different than something like affirmative action? That it isn't, it isn't.

Starting point is 00:30:45 Something like that does something very similar and it's based off of race or sex. Because that's where it sounds like to me when you explain what they're doing. It's like, well, how is that any different than giving someone a job based off of this? Well, some colleges, for example, if you're or let somebody into a college, right?

Starting point is 00:31:02 Well, some colleges, for example, if you're of a certain ethnicity, like Asian, for example, if you are let somebody into a college, right? Well, some colleges, for example, if you're of a certain ethnicity like Asian, for example, if you're Asian, you have to score higher on tests, then you do, if you're white or another race. So if you're Asian, it's harder to get in to certain colleges because why they would say your race is overrepresented. There's a lot more Asians with better scores or whatever. I hate that they even do. I don't know. Why do they just lump everybody into groups instead

Starting point is 00:31:33 of just taking each case and trying to do it individually? They're trying so hard to not be racist and discriminatory and the way they're doing is by becoming racist and just not to our majority. So tripping on this, so Enzo was listening to our episode that we just did recently about the yearbooks. And whenever we were talking about, you know, clicks in high school.

Starting point is 00:31:50 Yeah. Oh yeah, it says there's no clicks. Yeah, you, but he knows you say they are. He's saying out by race. By race. That's what? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:32:00 That's always kind of happened a little bit, right? Well, not for me, because we didn't, well, I mean, where I grew up, I was in, it was predominantly all white. And I had, there was a, maybe there was three black kids in the school, maybe there was eight to ten Asian kids in the school. And the rest were like white kids. So you separated by click for sure, like what you were, whatever you were into. Right. And it didn't matter what ratio or so the Asian kid could have been hanging out with

Starting point is 00:32:24 the nerds. Yeah, it was predominantly just like, yeah, whatever you were into. And it didn't matter what race you were, so the Asian kid could have been hanging out with the nerds. Yeah, it was predominantly just like, yeah, whatever you're in, interest were the most. Like, yeah, it was pretty diverse. So that's weird to me. I couldn't imagine being on my high school campus in the area and looking around and being like,

Starting point is 00:32:35 they're prison, feel like. Right. Hey, another white guy, hey, hey, hang out with me. Right, that's kind of weird. That's weird to me. Now, do you think, I think it's more normal to like gravitate

Starting point is 00:32:44 towards the things that you're entrusted to. Well, here's a good, here's a good, does a great discussion. Do you think it's because the kids want to hang out with the same race, or do you think it's because people of the same race tend to relate to each other better, because like for example, if I run into a bunch of

Starting point is 00:33:01 first generation Americans who have a tie in, or Sicilian parents, we're probably gonna to have more in common because of it. Do you think it's because of that or do you think it's just because of the race? No, I think it's because of what you just said. Maybe, right. Yeah, of course, because the things in high school that are awkward or weird for each other, you come, like you said, if you're first generation coming over here, you may dress different, your lunch that is packed for you is probably different.

Starting point is 00:33:24 You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Right, right, the things that your culture has already implemented, they were implemented into your lifestyle at a very early age before you even got to this school that's like this, I'm sure you're going to have more in common with that. So I could see that.

Starting point is 00:33:39 I still just think it's really weird. Yeah, he said, you know the thing he said? Well, he's 17, right?, it's, he said, you know the, you know the thing he said? What? You know, he's 17, right? So he's a real young kid. He's never seen a fight ever, ever seen a fight. See that, that's mind boggling to me. He's never seen a fight.

Starting point is 00:33:53 There's so many fights. No fights in elementary school, junior high or high school. He's never seen one. What? I know, right? I was like every week there was at least one or two. Like we would go follow back behind this church and people would do get out

Starting point is 00:34:05 Isn't that book you're reading I gen talking about how they just they do less of that stuff like there's less fighting less Violence yeah, no, it does talk about that But I didn't think it was that less where like you know, well, he's also going to he also goes to like a like a Upper yeah, like Lomo no sir toga. Oh, okay high school, but but even I remember though even you know The upper class high schools or whatever They would still have fights and stuff. Yeah, there's there's lots of down my look my kids have been going my kid my son's 12 and There's one scuffle that happened at a school and it wasn't even a fight. It was a kid said something to another kid and then he pushed him Yeah, and it was a big deal. No, it's interesting you bring them up because that happened every time.

Starting point is 00:34:45 Yeah, one of my friends was coaching basketball for my oldest and I went to school with him and we were talking about, because we actually got in a fight me and him when we were younger growing up and he was like apologizing to me for that. I'm like, apologize if we were kids, we were fighting, we didn't know the fuck we're doing.

Starting point is 00:35:02 You know, like, he was like, yeah, I just was thinking about that because like his kid, same age as my oldest, like they're just so nice to each other. Like everybody is like, he notices this because he works, you know, within the schools and everything and like every kid is like very conscious of, you know, other kids' feelings and all this.

Starting point is 00:35:22 It's like, it's a totally different vibe. And I'm like, what? Yeah, it might be because of where he's at, you know? Because that feelings and all this. It's like, it's a totally different vibe. And I'm like, what? Yeah, it might be because of where he's at, you know, because that's, I'm curious, maybe. My buddy is a vice principal over in like Merced, right? That area or Turlock area, right? And it's a little different. Like he's constant.

Starting point is 00:35:38 There's somebody in his office. I'm sure, yeah. Almost every day over some crazy shit, they've had gang stuff, they've had guns, they've had, they've had a lot of crazy stuff. Oh yeah, so you know the big thing that he says is wonderful. I know violence is down overall though. Yeah, overall.

Starting point is 00:35:51 Overall it is down for sure. It's actually down overall in all categories. Gun violence, assault, like just generally, it seems like society's just getting better and better. You know what, you know what Inzo was also saying is that the popular thing are those little cartridges that go into laptops. They're disguised as memory cards. What are you calling?

Starting point is 00:36:14 Yeah. And, but they're USB. But it's nicotine hits. What? So all the kids are on like nicotine. That's like the big. We mean nicotine hits, they're vapes. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:36:23 Oh. They're little tiny cartridges that look just like memory cards that go into your USB drive or whatever of your computer your laptop and They're and they're hitting them in class kids are so funny like they do it because it's like sneaky Yeah, if they if they were allowed to do that nobody would be puffing on a nicotine, you know us be drive I didn't even know that existed till he showed me. Wow. Yeah, it's like, did you guys ever come up with like clever ways to sneak things into school?

Starting point is 00:36:52 Did you guys ever do anything like that? I just remember those calculators, like you had to memorize the least stupid ass formulas. And so there was like on the sleeve of it. It was a couple formulas on right. Everybody was like, oh sweet, like even cheat. I definitely, this is the one thing I did. I remember cheating. I put like formulas on the back of this like sleeve of the calculator because you could just slide

Starting point is 00:37:15 it down and look at it, boom, and then you had your phone. Wow. Yeah. Because like memorizing was literally like the whole class was just about memorizing. It was so obnoxious to me. So here's how I cheated one time with my friend. We both wrote the answers on a piece of paper and taped it to the bottom of our shoe. Because he sat next to me. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:37:38 And so then we would just cross our legs and he would look at my shoe and I'd look at his shoe. And then nice. And then we would cheat. That's the move. But pretty solid. I didn't do much cheating in school. I think I got caught one time maybe and I remember that was when I became real quick and

Starting point is 00:37:53 savvy to the teachers. Do a lot of our teachers would give like three different tests and different for orders. So if you've copied it was like super fast and obvious. So all the questions were at a order between every other kid, right? So if you copied a kid that was within your eyeball range and you got your test back, it's like, you obviously copied the kid over here that had the test A and you had test B.

Starting point is 00:38:16 And so our teachers would do shows. But that's smart. Yeah, we couldn't really do stuff like that. But there was this kid in my school who turned himself in for cheating, you want to know why? What? So there was a teacher's aid for this for this class and the teacher's aid had because it was a multiple choice.

Starting point is 00:38:31 So you just fill in the bubbles. And what teachers have is they have this like this what is it called the key or whatever. Yeah. And it shows the pattern. Yeah. So the teacher's aid copied this key and then sold it to this guy that was in my class. So this kid had the pattern. So when he did the test, he filled out the pattern.

Starting point is 00:38:51 Turns in the test a week later, whatever we get the test back, he gets all of them wrong. An F. Do you know why? Because the pattern was off. He lined it up wrong. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:39:02 He lined it up wrong by one. So instead of like, so every answer was exactly one off. Was exactly one off. So he turned himself in, hoping that what? He turned himself, well, most, take the test again. Most teachers know are smart enough to know

Starting point is 00:39:14 that that kid cheated too, because if you get a, like it's almost impossible to get a zero. Like you can, like if you blindly, you have to purposely like make it off. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like you would literally have, like a good point, I wonder if they're waiting for him. No, for sure. I teach her with, exactly. That's what I'm saying. Like you would literally have.

Starting point is 00:39:25 You're a good point. I wonder if they're waiting for him. No, for sure. And that's what I mean by then. He's got to have the F. That's how they would fuck you. That's how they would fuck you with these three tests. A, B, and C would all be one off.

Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah. And so that's how a teacher would know right away if you cheated because they're like, oh yeah, look at all the right answers for the A test, but you had the B test, kid. So a fuck you big time and you got them all wrong then, you know, so I think that's really clever. Did you guys get nervous before tests? No.

Starting point is 00:39:51 No, I was a pan. I'm a good test taker. Like the SAT and all that. I think I was nervous. Oh yeah, you did all that. I never took the SAT. Yeah, yeah. Did you take the SAT?

Starting point is 00:40:02 Yeah, I didn't go to college, though. I knew I was, you know what I did do though? I didn't cheat or do it. I didn't really do much, but I did one year. So this is my, this is hilarious, I'd forgot all of this. My biology teacher, you know, we did a lot of like shit on the TV, right? There was always like a thing we had to watch

Starting point is 00:40:20 before we did lab or some shit. And I went down and got a universal remote. And I programmed it. And I programmed it, right? So I'll keep it in my backpack and then we'll be at 30 of work today. And we'll be watching TV for like five or 10 minutes or then change the channel quick.

Starting point is 00:40:38 And he had to go up there and he's got his own remote. So he's like, you know, I know he had no kid has the remote. So never dawned on him that a universal remote. And I would do it just enough to where he couldn't figure it out. Like if I can't do it like a lot, like you'd be obvious like, okay, something's going on here. But I just fuck with him like, and I had a couple buddies in the class that knew what was going on. And so we would be snickered. That's great. Yeah, I wouldn't get nervous. But if they gave us the offer, because sometimes teachers will give us the option and nobody would ever take this option, but they'd say, you can either do the written test or you could do the oral test.

Starting point is 00:41:12 And every kid was like, no oral test. I don't want to do the oral test. I was always like, oh yeah. I mean, it's hell of a deal. Give me the oral test. No, give me the oral test because I knew I could stand up in front of the class and I could make it sound like I knew what I was talking about. I was definitely the opposite of that.

Starting point is 00:41:28 You did that when you were younger, huh? Oh, yeah. I remember specifically, I remember specifically one, we were supposed to do a full report on the book, Lord of the Rings, not Lord of the Rings, excuse me, Lord of the Flies. And the day before, I didn't read a single page of this book at all. Was that freshman year? That's freshman year book, right? I don't remember.

Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, that's freshman year book. But that's how I took tests. I would understand patterns. The teacher would, you know, how they would like construct a test. And then I would break that down. And then I wouldn't even do any of the work. You know, that was like half of my plan was to figure out how much, like, how good a grade I could get was doing the least amount of work.

Starting point is 00:42:05 You know what I always say? Which is, that's the sign of an entrepreneur. It is, right? It's so weird though, like that's totally why I didn't learn anything, but I was just like, yeah, I was just like, this is silly. Like I could, I could get an A still watch. Yeah, I would figure it out.

Starting point is 00:42:20 No, I stood up in the clasch, we were doing the report and I picked the oral report the day before never read the book So I had my dad rent me the movie. I watched Lord of the Flies on TV stood up in the front of the class got a standing ovation from the Because I because why because I I Connected I connected the the theme of the story of Lord of the Flies to modern life and I'm like this You know and I just went all philosophical. I went off to there you go and the teacher stood up It's just like excellent job Sal. I can tell you really like the book and I don't even have the book

Starting point is 00:42:57 I don't even have the book that was I don't know if I'm trying to think what book I actually actually read all the way through from cover to cover in high school. I can't think of one. Oh really? Yeah. Of my submen. You want to know what books, you want to know, you guys are about to, do you want to make fun of me? But whatever, you know what books I read, cover to cover?

Starting point is 00:43:12 What? My history books, the actual textbooks that they give us. Oh yeah. You know what's funny? I would be into reading that now. Like your social studies books and stuff like that. Oh, I love them. I read all the philosophy books.

Starting point is 00:43:24 I was not into it. Oh did you. I love them. I read all the philosophy books. I was not interested. Oh, did you? I was not. Social studies, I hated. I remember those worksheets that we used to get every single fucking day of homework. You had to go through a chapter and go back and fill out all the worksheets. I go straight to the glossary and just fucking figure out the words and just fill it in. It's so stupid because they don't really teach you anything that's important.

Starting point is 00:43:41 They just teach you dates and what happened. Yeah. Instead of like, why did this happen? Right. What's the what's the how does it supply to today and why is this important? No, what's about like what you know what date was the Boston Tea Party? Well a lot of school is just memorization Yeah, a lot of it really it really is. I didn't get a lot of teachers that would explain the the why there's no discussion there It was just like learn this and then they throw like a manual like you need

Starting point is 00:44:06 to memorize it. Oh, and I think it's the seventh or eighth grade, Mr. Swini, I think his name was terrible teacher. Terrible, all he would do is we would get into class. He'd put up, he had one of those projectors or whatever, where you put the clear plastic, whatever, over and over. And he'd say, all right, read chapters one, two, and three, and then answer these questions. And then he'd sit at his desk.

Starting point is 00:44:26 And he would do nothing. And every once in a while, he would stand up and read from the chapter. He was literally a fucking placeholder for a teacher. That's what he was. So I used to piss him off like crazy because I never paid attention. And so I'd be in the back reading all the way through the history book because I thought it was fascinating I'd just be reading yeah, and the way he would try and get me and he must have done this like 10 times Is he would be reading and whatever and you know, he'd try and engage people and I'd just be in the back reading my own self And then all of a sudden I'd hear so Sal what do you think of blah blah blah blah like hi? I got you and I'd answer the right answer and you'd look at me like fuck I'm already rarry read that part dude, like a week ago.

Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah, fuck. I probably told this, but that was like my English class where this Miss Visser, she would make us read basically entire class without discussion. And so everybody would get a part and we would go through, I think it was, like I was Mercutio, you know, from Romeo and Juliet. I would just like opt into like read Juliet. I would just opt in to read something

Starting point is 00:45:28 because I wanted to do something. I didn't want to just sit there. I had to go into the principal because I basically read the whole part and acted it out with my Arctic Breeze character, basically. You really liked that? Yeah, just like that. Everybody was dying, you know?

Starting point is 00:45:46 And then the teacher got really pissed off at me and was just like, you're not coming back the rest of the day. I'm like, I'm like, fine. Go to the office. Yeah, like, fine. I just got really bored. Dude, right now I literally just cringed because I took myself back to being in a classroom

Starting point is 00:46:03 and that silence of the teachers that used to make you do that where it would be like we're gonna read a couple chapters. Like that, I've been in that situation. And that has to be up there with some of the most awful moments as a kid growing up of having to sit in a room and like looking up at the clock. So unproductive. Looking up at the clock every five minutes,

Starting point is 00:46:20 like, God damn, what was the thing would go faster? Right. And the whole room silent, and all you can hear is occasional page turn. Yeah. How many minds, I mean, how many, it's almost like, God damn, what was the thing would go faster. Right. And the whole room silent, all you can hear is an occasional page turn. Yeah. How many minds, I mean, it's almost like, it's almost like people succeed

Starting point is 00:46:30 in spite of the shitty education system. I know. Like, oh wow, you went through that and you're successful? Good for you. Well, I think that's where so much of it is ways on the parents, right? Like as far as like how you follow up with your kids afterwards,

Starting point is 00:46:45 I think that that's everything, right? Like being able to have the discussions with your kids after-after-after- Simulating conversation. Yeah, absolutely. Like to me, and the kids that their parents that didn't give a fuck about that, and then do that are probably the same kids.

Starting point is 00:46:57 Did you guys ever have a attractive female teacher? Never. Yeah. Really? Ever. That sucks. We had a French teacher. I'm not gonna say her name. I've trained a lot of them. I was, I every time I trained when I'd be like, God damn, where were you when I was a kid, dude? I would have definitely done my homework.

Starting point is 00:47:11 Oh no, we had one and she wasn't even, we had a substitute. Did you? Oh, she was a fox. Wow. Well, let me tell you, dude, well, you guys know this. You got a bunch of 15 or 14 year old, 15 year old dudes whose testosterone levels have reached epic proportions. Hot teachers tell me what to do. I am listening. Well, it's just, I am listening. We had this one. You have my attention.

Starting point is 00:47:35 We had this one French teacher. I won't say her name because she's local. And I think she's still teaching. But she, and she wasn't super attractive. She was just a woman. This is like 25 years ago, bro. She's probably not as hot as I know you know Yeah, you don't necessarily need to be like like hot hot. You just need to be like attractive teacher hot

Starting point is 00:47:51 Well, so you to be teacher. Well, I don't know dude because there's different levels of difference I don't know because I see these fucking news reports with these female teachers who are being inappropriate with their male students And some of them are like downright smoking. Have you seen some of these? Yeah, that's like. I never had a teacher like that. I don't like. Wow. But no, this particular teacher, she would always wear these like silk tops or whatever.

Starting point is 00:48:16 And she just had the most pointing nipples. Wow. Yeah. And it would poke out. It's distracting. It's so distracting. Like every guy in there was just like Oh And then she come over to help you know like with your thing or what what whatever you're with your thing

Starting point is 00:48:30 Yeah, and so she lean over tell me with my thing, please So you're sitting at your desk, right? And you raise your hand and you'd say, you know I'm not gonna say her name, but we'd call her madame whatever her name was because you know, I'm gonna I don't want to call her so I said she's speaking in French. Yeah, yeah, in French. Medaillem, whatever. She'd walk over and she'd lean over you and her nipple would be like, right there. And then you would for sure, the guys in there for sure we knew why we'd call her over. I'd be like, can you help me with number four and all the guys would be like, what was

Starting point is 00:49:01 the worst because our substance teacher, I remember her coming in and she would wear those like kind of fuzzy sweatshirts or sweaters and like, yeah, she had, she was very well, you know, developed. And it was, she was very mature. She was very, they were there, right? And she would come in one time to kind of take over and teach us like sex ed and everything I'm like, oh my god really?

Starting point is 00:49:26 See, you taught you sex ed? Yeah, but it was like a follow-up series of what already and so she was a little uncomfortable with it too and all the guys in there were just like, oh my god, like we just sat there like listen to her talk about it and it was, you know, it was epic. Painful. Did you see Enzel the other day in the meeting? His first meeting that he was in with almost. He raised his hand. he raised his hand.

Starting point is 00:49:45 Uh, he raised his hand. I died laughing inside. You know what I'm saying? He's a good kid. Yeah, we were all talking. Everyone's going back up for the meeting and then like Enzo raises his hand. Is that, can I say something?

Starting point is 00:49:55 It's put on me. No, we think about it though. Like, you know, at one point, you were trained to do that same thing too, right? Like, if you're in a group of people and you wanted to talk like that. I got something. Yeah. Waiting, like, potentially calling. Next time he doesn't.

Starting point is 00:50:07 Don't call him. Yeah, I'm gonna look like, like, past him. Just go around the room. Anybody, anybody have anything in there? Anybody have any questions? Oh, good. Great. I'm glad. There's anybody out there. Yeah. There's five of us in the room. I give, I'll hide five that hand.

Starting point is 00:50:21 Good job. Yeah. Yeah, he's a good kid. It's good to have, I like having somebody that age. Oh, good job, Adam. I like having someone that age on staff, because it's always fun. Oh, no, it's good for us. Yeah, it's always fun. We learn a lot.

Starting point is 00:50:34 It's interesting. Yeah, it reminds me of just how old we are. Yeah, for sure. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com.

Starting point is 00:50:59 That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for twenty percent off at checkout. Our first question is from Mike Lunaris. Bad movement or no movement. If you had to choose between the two, which would you each pick? Shout out to our boy, Mikey. What up, Mikey? That's a good question.

Starting point is 00:51:20 No, that is a cool question. I think it's very thoughtprovoking, I think. There's a huge misconception with movement in which, if you're moving, you're creating a recruitment pattern. If you're moving, you're developing certain muscles. If you're moving, you're training your body to do something. Now, that is also true with no movement, okay? If you're not moving, you're also creating recruitment patterns or promoting something.

Starting point is 00:51:49 If you're not moving, you're also promoting some muscles to become atrophied. If you're not moving, you're also causing dysfunction. So the reality is bad movement. Bad movement. Yeah, bad movement and no movement. Both of them will cause problems. I think bad movement and bad movement, both of them will cause problems. I think bad movement and bad movement,

Starting point is 00:52:07 we can categorize some are being totally dangerous and some just being not great for you. But aside from the super dangerous bad movement stuff where you actually injure yourself, bad movement may be better than no movement because at least you're moving and you're burning calories internally. At least internally things are functioning, at least by the movement process.

Starting point is 00:52:31 But yeah, I think that as far as getting to a place where you're going to face pain or injury or both scenarios, you're gonna come to a halt with either of those scenarios. So I don't really see too much of a preference in either direction, other than I would probably go with the bad movement just because I'm moving and that's really all I could say. Because he said movement, I would say bad movement.

Starting point is 00:53:00 If it was like exercising, or a lift or something, right? Like, what's better? Like, bad squats or no squats, right? Something like that. Then maybe there's a different, there's a different answer to this. But otherwise, I think moving in general is better than not moving at all. If it's just straight up, you know, to move or not to move in, even if your movement, like, for example, like, when I see this all the time, right? Like I see the eight year old man that lives down my neighborhood and his posture is so bad that he's like looking straight down at the ground and he's out there walking. And you look at him and you go,

Starting point is 00:53:35 oh my God, his posture is so fucked up. But then I also look at him like good for him that he's getting out and he's still walking and he's still moving because somebody with that fucked up of posture, I could easily see them being like, oh, I'm in so much pain all the time. I have bad posture. I shouldn't be every time I walk it and it's a pretty my low back and all these things where I think you'd be in a much worse position than to not move whatsoever. Now, if we were

Starting point is 00:53:59 to take this to like a squat or like something like that. Do I think it's better to not load a barbell and get under there and squat with bad mechanics versus not squatting at all? Yeah, I think not squatting at all is better than putting a bunch of weight on your back and then squatting with really bad patterns. Well, yeah, that's a different scenario. At the end of the day, I mean, well, here's your body adapts to whatever you do and don't do. That's the important point that I'm trying to make here. It's not like if you don't do anything

Starting point is 00:54:31 that nothing happens. If you don't do anything, a lot of things happen. And you start shutting things down. And no movement is very, very bad for you. Now, why would a bad squat be worse than not squatting at all? I'll tell you why, because you hurt yourself, which then results in no movement. Right.

Starting point is 00:54:48 No movement is the worst thing you could, it's one of the worst things you could possibly do for your body. If you don't believe me, you can play this experiment on yourself. Get in bed, don't leave your bed for a week or two weeks, and watch how quickly your health and your state of mind declines.

Starting point is 00:55:05 Well, isn't the problem with breaking your hips when you're older? I mean, it's the rapid decline of health and that right visibly in front of you see just the health just go completely because of the non-movement as a result. Like they're not motivated to get up and down, they're not motivated to get circulation and down, they're not motivated to get circulation,

Starting point is 00:55:26 and then it's just like, and then the defeated sort of mindset that happens as a result as well, it just all is just rapid decline of the entire system. Well, when was the last time you had a limb in a cast, right? For, you know, even if you, even if you sprain something and you have it in a brace for two weeks, take that brace off, and you sprain something and you have it in a brace for two weeks,

Starting point is 00:55:46 take that brace off and you'll be, yeah. The first time I ever did it, I was, I was shocked at how much muscle I lost. It was actually, I didn't expect that because I'd never done that before. I take the brace off and my muscle's gone and it looks scary. Now, of course, it comes back when you move and exercise it, but that just goes to show you that your body's adapting always, always, there is no stagnant, there is no stable baseline. It's either adapting in a favorable way or adapting in an unfavorable way, or a mix of the both.

Starting point is 00:56:17 Either way though, there's something that's always happening. So, you know, like I said to ask a question like this, like if you sit down and you don't move, that is one of the most unhealthy things you could do, not only for your body, but also for your mind. If you really want to see your mind go in a bad place, lock yourself in a room and on a bed and stay in there for, you know, just a few days even. I know how I feel when I'm sick and I can't and I stay on a couch. And how that fucks with my hair, you know? Drugs me crazy.

Starting point is 00:56:46 Oh, it's absolutely terrible. Now, of course, the best answer is, is good movement, you know, doing good movement. But, you know, here's the deal, like, you don't have to, and we talk a lot about expert, you know, exercise programming and workouts and the best, you know, exercises and how to do them right and this, that and the other. But the average person, if the average person who just wants just overall health, doesn't

Starting point is 00:57:09 really care about performance, doesn't want to build lots of muscle, doesn't need to look super lean, just want to maintain a good healthy body for longevity. You can get away with a few exercises, like a bar squat is one of them, a deadlift, an overhead press, maybe a row, maybe a chest press. Get really good at those and maybe the variations of them and get good at movement. You're going to have good, you'll maintain decent mobility for the rest of your life. On the flip side, if somebody does nothing at all and just goes to work, sits down at work, and drives home and sits down at home. If you don't use it, you lose it, man.

Starting point is 00:57:49 Quick. People would be shocked. I'll tell you what, people who are, trainers who are listening know exactly what I'm talking about. You get the average, the average age of a client who hires a personal trainer is probably 40 something, right? Wouldn't you agree?

Starting point is 00:58:03 Like late 30s, maybe early to mid 40s, probably, right? Cause they have expendable income. At that time, at that age, you value hiring a professional more than if you're 20 and you think you could just do everything on your own. So I would get clients all the time who are like 43, 45, 50, 39, whatever. And I would inevitably, if they hadn't worked out ever

Starting point is 00:58:24 or had, I don't worked out in years They couldn't do basic things like reach straight up above their head Yeah, literally take a 45 year old who doesn't work out at all Have them hold the dumbbell and have them fully extend above their head and what you'll see is a shit ton of Compensation a little or back. You'll see all kinds of dysfunction in the shoulder in the neck Have them do their own form long enough and they'll hurt themselves. That's how bad the movement is. And then when they get to like 60 and 70, holy cow, like I would get 60 and 70 year old clients who would get so excited because I would get them to the point where they could reach above their head.

Starting point is 00:58:58 Because they couldn't even do it. They couldn't even straighten their elbows. Like they were just like right here and they couldn't reach things in high areas. So yeah, not moving is one of the absolute worst things you could possibly do. In fact, if I'm not mistaken, I think there's studies that compare sitting in terms of threat to your health to smoking cigarettes. If I'm not mistaken.

Starting point is 00:59:20 I've seen those, yeah. Yeah. Where it's almost as bad as smoking. Very close to being as bad. If you guys ever trained a client and had them like, if I'm not mistaken. I've seen those, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you guys ever trained a client and had them like, especially an older client, had to leave or not work out because they hurt themselves and then you see them like a month later. Oh, yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:34 It was just completely deteriorated, like, yeah. Scary, right? It's tough, man. Yeah, to see that because it's frustrating for them and you just see, like, it was only a few weeks and it's like you're starting all over again. Yeah, I had one lady who I trained, I'm sure I've told this a long time ago, but she was in her early 70s and wonderful woman,

Starting point is 00:59:56 her daughter brought her to me because she needed, more strength, she was quite deconditioned, she couldn't move very well. So I trained her for, I wanna to say about two or three years, so we trained for a while, very basic, very, very basic. Like the first stuff that we would do would be like, just practicing standing up from a chair, right? Like I was her first exercise.

Starting point is 01:00:15 And over the course of three years, like she didn't become some fitness fanatic and I didn't make her like this super mobile body builder, but she was, you know, significantly better than how she started. Then she slipped in the shower and she broke her leg. So she breaks her leg. So now she can't get out of bed. She can't move. So she's got this cast not coming in, not coming in. Next thing I know her daughter calls me is like, look,

Starting point is 01:00:40 I'm paying for someone to take care of my mom right now. Can't afford a trainer anymore. So she's, you know, she's, if we can afford it later, she'll come see you. But I don't think she's gonna come see you for a while. So I said, okay, no problem. It was something like seven or eight months later. So it wasn't even a year later. So leg is healed and everything. I'm at the grocery store and I see her, her name is Barbara.

Starting point is 01:01:01 I see her. First off, when she used to come see me, she did have poor posture, but she could still walk relatively upright. I see her in the grocery store. She's almost completely horizontal with a walker. Like really bad bent over. She's walking with her daughter. Her daughter's walking around with her in the grocery store.

Starting point is 01:01:21 So I call her out, like, hey, you know, Barbara, hey. And she kind of looks up at me and she's got this very confused look on her face. And I'm like, hey, and her daughter says, hey, hey, mom, do you remember Sal? Do you remember Sal? And she goes, no, no. And my heart just crushed because she had, and I remember when I, when I was training her, there were definitely signs of dementia that were starting to happen

Starting point is 01:01:46 But they were really really subtle and the only reason why I could tell is because you know I'd spent a lot of time with her I'd train her three you know three days a week or so And we would have all these conversations and stuff and she would ask me Every once in a while she'd ask me a question, you know That she had asked me like a week or two ago So I'd say oh, okay, I think maybe she's having a little bit of dementia. But it wasn't like, if you just met her, you wouldn't notice. Eight months later, because she couldn't move,

Starting point is 01:02:10 because she had broken her leg and she was bedridden and because she didn't exercise anymore. Her posture destroyed, completely deteriorated, didn't even recognize me anymore. And that was terrifying, absolutely terrifying. So make no mistake. No movement is a very, very dangerous... Oh, no, accelerate poor health for sure.

Starting point is 01:02:29 Absolutely. Next question is from Carmen Nolesa. I'm wondering what a woman should do to boost their testosterone level naturally. More testosterone would be nice for building muscle, but I'm sure females should aim for something different than men. What natural things can a woman do to get their hormones on point?

Starting point is 01:02:49 I don't think it's necessarily that women should aim for something different than men because women in general are going to be, it's going to be challenging for a woman to promote more testosterone naturally, right? Obviously, you wouldn't want to take something synthetically to try and do that, because the most optimized natural woman is never gonna have even as much as the average male does testosterone. No, they have a little bit of testosterone. Right, so you could, you want to do all the similar stuff,

Starting point is 01:03:19 and we talk a lot about that on the show right now of all, you know, sleep and sunlight and you know, lifting heavier weights and, um, that you've light. I mean, that's why they can't, they can't, they use a juve light. Yeah. All these things could potentially help them. Yeah. If you're a woman, you don't necessarily want to try to increase your testosterone

Starting point is 01:03:37 levels. First off, that's not, it's kind of a difficult thing to do for a woman. And remember, testosterone is the male hormone. It's literally what turns a fetus into, into, you know, signal through the, obviously, the, your, or DNA, but it, it, it, it turns us into a male. If a woman has high testosterone levels like a man, she will masculine eyes. She'll start to develop masculine features, grow hair on her face. Clotaurus will actually grow as if it's trying to become a penis. Voice will lower.

Starting point is 01:04:06 So a lot of things will happen with a woman. You don't want to, unless you have no testosterone, which may affect your libido, that may be more the result of an imbalance between estrogen and progesterone. Those are the hormones that you really want to watch or have imbalance if you're a woman. Having those be out of balance, the more common one to be out of balance is estrogen, the one that, you know, they'll call it estrogen dominance, right? Where your body is either sensitive to estrogen or your progesterone is too low, so the balance is off, or you have too much estrogen.

Starting point is 01:04:41 This is where you get side effects, you know, and I pull up a list here of things that I want to make sure I cover them all. Like you'll get hair loss and thinning of hair, depression and anxiety, mood swings and irritability, trouble falling asleep, PMS is much worse, breast tenderness, or fibrosistic breast, polycystic ovarian syndrome, and ovarian cysts, that's also from estrogen dominance, endometriosis, fibroids, infertility, low libido, water retention bloating, fat gain, accelerated aging, and so on. Estrogen dominance can even be a risk factor for cancer. So that's really what you want to look for when you're a woman. Men are the ones that look for low signs of low testosterone. Because when our hormones are off, that's the easy one to kind of watch and see what's

Starting point is 01:05:32 going on. I see. So it's more progesterone and estrogen balance. Estrogen balance, that relationship. Yeah. So I wondered if that's what, so I had an issue with a lot of women when I first started training and I think it had to do with the extreme low fat diets that was going on. And I would throw one of my female clients on a higher fat diet.

Starting point is 01:05:53 And instantly they would feel a difference in their hormones. That's not the hormones. Yeah, like that was. So I think that's the first place I would normally check because this was more common than I thought it would be. And I think it's just because of the fear of eating fat for so many women. And men, men too, were avoiding it. I was avoiding it in the, you know, that'll cause hormone imbalance to men too. Right. And so I think by keeping your, your healthy fats up is an easy thing to look

Starting point is 01:06:19 at. If you go too low in anything, right? So if a, if a woman goes too low and carbohydrates for too long, so let's say you're a keto dieter and you do that for a long, long period of time, there's some evidence, you know, without ever coming out, right? There's some evidence that shows that you may have thyroid hormone issues as a result of that. Low fat for sure. You go really low fat. That is immediate, I mean, hormone issues. I mean, fat is a essential macronutrient. We need it, we need to eat it otherwise we'll die. Low, low, low protein can also cause, you know, hormone imbalances. And that's what's wrong with some of these, like, fat diets that we see people do is they

Starting point is 01:06:57 they're so caught up on following the protocol that diet instead of trying to listen to their body and maybe feed their body that way. And I mean, even ourselves, like've been following a ketogenic type of protocol for a long period of time there. Man, I have a part of why I feel so good right now, I think is just the reintroduction of carbohydrates. Sure I was eating them, but not like I'm eating them now.

Starting point is 01:07:17 Now I'm back up to a healthy 250 grams of carbs. Which isn't like a ton for a guy or size. Right, right, it's not a good one. It's just more than 100, than you probably would be. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's double, right? So ton for a guy your size. Right, right, it's not a question. It's just more than a hundred than you probably would. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's double, right? So it is a lot compared to what I was before, but it's not a crazy amount where I'm like,

Starting point is 01:07:31 shoveling all these carbs and it's just that I was so low for so long that it was affecting me hormoning. Yeah, so, you know, if you lose your period, that obviously tell you that your hormones are probably not balanced out. And if you stay there long enough, you know, because'll obviously tell you that your hormones are probably not balanced out. And if you stay there long enough, you know, because of dieting too much or because you're too lean,

Starting point is 01:07:49 then you can expect some hormone issues. Another one is just really bad PMS. And it's funny because, you know, there's, I think today we tried to mask some of the bad symptoms of PMS. You see a lot of women getting prescribed SSR-I drugs and anti-exhidimedications, and they take them right around PMS.

Starting point is 01:08:09 In fact, that's one of the more popular off the label type prescription. And it's a bit of a pill, so. Yeah, so it's one of the more common reasons why a doctor will prescribe an antidepressant off label. So not for like regular depression, but like, oh, your PMS is really bad. Here's an SSRI, I want you to take this before you have,

Starting point is 01:08:35 the week before you have your period and while you're on your period. And so women will actually take it to try to mask some of the symptoms of PMS. Now, PMS symptoms are normal and natural, but the extreme ones could be a sign that your hormones are kind of at a balance. Like if you're a woman and when you PMS,

Starting point is 01:08:52 like if your anxiety goes through the roof or you get really fucking dark, I'm talking like it's like a big dramatic change or you become super, super irritable. Or you can't sleep or you get hot flashes and all this other stuff. It could be just a hormone imbalance between estrogen and progesterone. This is much more common today because women are on birth control for so long. And then when they go out, you know, here's a thing, like if a guy takes

Starting point is 01:09:19 anabolic steroids, what does his body do? Stop making testosterone because it's a negative feedback loop, right? Your body senses too much testosterone stops making testosterone because it's a negative feedback loop right your body senses too much testosterone Stops making its own then you go off testosterone It can take a while for your own natural testosterone levels to come back, right? Sometimes it can take a year or longer, right? Especially imagine especially if you were on it for 10 years imagine if a guy was on testosterone for 10 or 15, like a lot of women are before they decide to go off.

Starting point is 01:09:47 That's interesting for them. The antidepressants, so I just went in for a checkup and the first thing they want to establish, because I'm like, well, I'm low energy, I want to get all my blood work and all this stuff and kind of figure this out. First thing they're going for is like,

Starting point is 01:10:00 are you depressed? This and that. They're going through this whole protocol of just like, if I'm low energy, then an antidepressant might be the answer to that. That's right. Now, aside from the obvious stuff of balancing out your hormones, having a good whole food-based diet,

Starting point is 01:10:17 not going too hard in restriction, but also not eating a ton. Because if you have high, high body fat levels, then you may also get estrogen dominance because fat is an estrogen sensitive tissue. It could actually cause you to produce more estrogen. If you exercise properly, don't overwork, you get good sleep, and you're still having some of these issues. You may be either consuming too much sugar because sugar can cause issues with estrogen.

Starting point is 01:10:41 Alcohol and caffeine are other ones. Caffeine can actually cause in some women spikes in estrogen, and other women's drops in estrogen. So look at caffeine, and I've had online clients where I'll have them eliminate caffeine, and a lot of their symptoms will go away. Artificial fragrances. A lot of these fragrances that you smell, like candles that you may light,

Starting point is 01:11:04 that you think, oh, this smells nice. This smells like cinnamon apple or whatever. If it's not a natural, like, you know, type of candle. Yeah, what about the makeup and the gel? All those things, champoos and conditioners. Yeah, they all have Xenoestrogens, which are chemicals that have like a weak affinity for the estrogen receptor. That means that they don't necessarily give you these strong estrogenic effects, but over time, they can. So you start to look at those things, maybe eliminate those. Cleaning supplies, pharmaceuticals can do this.

Starting point is 01:11:33 Here's some other things you can do. If you have all your ducts lined up and everything is going well, increase your consumption of cruciferous vegetables. They contain, broccoli, for example, contains a compound called endolthory carbonyl that when you consume it, your liver changes the type of estrogen metabolites that you produce into the less active forms.

Starting point is 01:11:57 So if you have, if you're estrogen dominant or you have these symptoms, eating more broccoli may actually balance you out or you can supplement. You can actually buy endolall three carbonyl. And then the stronger version of that is called DIM. But I will say this before supplementing with something like DIM, which is a really strong, natural, over-the-counter kind of estrogen, you know, not blocker, but, you know, balancer, whatever, make sure that's what the problem is, because you will be messing with your hormones by taking that.

Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah, it's not like this person's not really trying, or it has a problem as much as they know the correlation between testosterone and building muscle and they're looking to boost it. Carmen follows us and we've seen her page before and she's very fit but she's also shredded. And so what I would say to Carmen, for you in particular, if you want to do things to naturally balance out your hormones, I would say try gaining a little body fat because you're shredded right now.

Starting point is 01:12:48 You're going to bulk and lift some heavy weight. Yeah, she's probably around 10% body fat. She's got a six pack and everything. I'd say let your body fat get up to about 15, 16, but just still lean. You're not going to be like overweight or anything. You're still very lean. Push your body fat up to 15, 16% and leave it there for a little bit and then see how you feel and how your hormones respond.

Starting point is 01:13:09 Next question is from Machi Dog. How do you deal with your spouse or partner's level of need when they far exceed your own? My husband requires so much more attention and accolades than I do and he seems to be getting worse as the years roll on. Wow. My impromptu relationship is... I love when we come out as experts, I know all the psychologists and

Starting point is 01:13:36 fucking counselors and therapists that listen to us cringe all the time. You are not a professional, you shouldn't have a fuck. We are not. We're not. We start with you. We guess what, you asked us. Guess what, it's our show. So we're gonna give our opinion anyway. I think you need to have him dead live three times a week.

Starting point is 01:13:52 Yeah. Yeah. You know, a great book for this. I know we mentioned it on the, you know, the episode with Sex with the Emily. I think this, for this exact type of a question is five leveling languages, right? I think that's, I think it's really important to,

Starting point is 01:14:10 and even if you don't read the book, at least get the concept of it and understand the meaning behind it is that, you know, typically we all have, there's five major love languages and each of us have one or two that are, you could be a collection of all of them but you have a typically a dominant one or two and you know it could be that if you're saying that he needs accolade so that's affirmation right so he needs words of affirmation from you he could also it could

Starting point is 01:14:38 be services to things that you do for him so maybe those are the two things that he needs he likes affirmation so tell him how good he is and whatever all those things. And then also do things for him, which could incorporate cooking or cleaning or helping him out with certain things. Like these can all be examples of stuff that you could potentially help help him with as far as the the leveling, which is now where this becomes challenging for partners is when neither one of those two are yours. When yours may be GIF receiving and something else. And so this is where I see the most conflict with couples is when they don't seem to recognize

Starting point is 01:15:14 that your love languages are completely different. Now that doesn't mean that you can't be incredible partner. Katrina and I have completely opposite love languages. It's just you have to learn to have empathy. And it may seem very one-sided because maybe he doesn't know specifically what yours are and for him to contribute in that direction a little bit more. And it seems like you're put a lot of effort and emphasis

Starting point is 01:15:37 in trying to accommodate what seems to be very needy whereas maybe you're not communicating what you actually need effectively. Right, well, here's a weird one. So here's it, and this is an area where Katrina and I had to work on like, mine is gift receiving. And it's, it goes stems all the way back to my childhood and my history and so like that.

Starting point is 01:15:54 So, and I typically as a single guy, I bought myself stuff, I buy myself gifts. That's why I like to buy things. That's part of it because I like things, right? And so for Katrina, hers is touch and feel and that's a big strength to her. So she's incredibly touchy and feely and loving. So as soon as I walk on the door, you know, she's made, she makes the effort to make sure she kisses me and looks at me and holds me. And if we're sitting next

Starting point is 01:16:19 to each other, she's always rubbing on me and massaging me. And I love all that stuff and I appreciate it, but I don't need it. And I don't, and in my head, I'm not counting it as love, if that makes sense, right? So it's not registering in my brain as she's loving me. But if she gets me a gift, like it registers as she's, she's loving me. So what happens is a partner ends up doing

Starting point is 01:16:41 their own love language, which they want for themselves. They end up doing that a lot for their partner, and in their head, you're loving them a lot because you're doing the things that you want in return, but what you don't realize is that's not their language. So for them, all that effort and work that you're putting in towards quote unquote loving them,

Starting point is 01:16:58 they're not receiving it the same way that you want, so that's where people miss, and they don't realize it's like, this because you love that way, because that's the way you like to be loved. Doesn't necessarily mean that that's what he's looking for. So learning to understand that and then to be okay with, okay, I know it's easier for me to love him. So, and for example, for me, going back to my struggle, like I struggle with, um, affirmation thing. I'm terrible at telling Katrina how beautiful she is,

Starting point is 01:17:26 how smart she is, how much I love her, how much she does for me and those things like that. I'm terrible at that. And so I have had to put in, but now what I am is I'm a major provider. I buy her gifts all the time. Like I do all that stuff and she gives two shits about that. So if you can imagine I'm a guy who, for a while there,

Starting point is 01:17:43 like it was like every week I was coming home with new clothes for her or flowers or gifts or things like that. So if you can imagine I'm a guy who was you know for a while there like there was like every week I was coming home with new clothes for her or flowers or gifts or things like that. And I'm in my head I'm thinking all the time like I'm fucking totally loving this woman. But then at the same time she's feeling deprived and and so it's like what the fuck how could she could feel deprived I feel like I do so much for her. Well that's because I'm doing the things that are from my love language and the things that I love I'm really not loving her the way that she wants to be loved. So I think it's important that you make this connection. I think it's a great read if you haven't read the book. Yeah, I think to sometimes he may, you know, your spouse may be feeling very insecure. He may be feeling very, very insecure about you and the relationship. And so just wants more affirmation that you love them, that you're

Starting point is 01:18:27 secure with them, that you want to be there with them. And I've seen this happen many times with clients where I'll train a guy or I'll train a girl and then they start to get fit, but their spouse doesn't work out and I'll train them for a year or two years. And you know, when you guys know this, when you train clients, you talk about everything, right? Cause you become friends, you see them for hours every week. And I'd hear them talk about, this was actually a common thing.

Starting point is 01:18:51 This exact question was actually quite common where they'd be working out with me for a year or two, their body's changing, they're feeling better, they have more energy. Now they're doing things that they weren't doing before, and then their spouse ends up requiring much more, they become more needy, they need more attention, they need more, and it's like, what's going on?

Starting point is 01:19:10 They're insecure because your value has gone up. They've perceived your value at a particular place, right? Like, okay, you were 20 pounds heavier before, you weren't as outgoing before, you didn't have as much confidence before. Now you're 20 pounds leaner, you've got more confidence, you've got more energy, your value has increased, their value, their perceived value has stayed the same, they now will feel, start to feel insecure. That's a really good point and really, really common. And then imagine that with them being off on their languages and it can really compound them. Oh, dude.

Starting point is 01:19:47 I mean, that could be why she feels this way and why it's getting increasingly worse is because you may be increasingly increasing your value may be going up. Right. And he could be staying the same or even going down. Imagine he's getting more unhealthy or who knows where he's, I have no idea about his career, what's going on with him there, but if he's not growing at the same speed that you're growing as an individual, then absolutely. Imagine if you're just a regular person,

Starting point is 01:20:08 let's say you're just some regular dude, and then you somehow, I don't know, you're in LA and you're running to Beyonce, right? Let's say she's single, and all of a sudden, you guys hit it off and now she wants to date you. Now you're dating Beyonce, right? The level of insecurity you may have because you're dating Beyonce,

Starting point is 01:20:23 it's probably gonna be a lot higher, and you may come across as're dating Beyonce. It's probably gonna be a Lot higher, right and you may come across as more needy. What are you doing right now? Do you love me? Are you sure you want to be with me? Why do you want to be with me? Because you perceive their value as so much higher. This happens with work where one person's maybe starts to succeed At work and the other person not so much This may be more common if a woman starts to get very successful because guys tend to get insecure about that, right? If they're especially if their wife or girlfriend

Starting point is 01:20:50 is more successful than them monetarily. This happens with bodies, if you become more fit, or it may be that your spouse or your boyfriend or girlfriend doesn't increase their value, but your perceived value decreases because of something that happened to you, like you lost your job, or you gained weight, or maybe you're feeling depressed. That causes a lot of problems as well. I mean, imagine you're with somebody, and you are a particular way,

Starting point is 01:21:16 and then you go through a rough patch where you feel like shit, or you gained weight as a result of it. Now you're very insecure about the other person, and it can come across as very needy. Now the irony of all of this, the irony of this is being super needy and needing a lot of that information doesn't necessarily help anything unless it's communicated well. It doesn't help and in fact may actually hurt a situation because if you do have that other partner and they are increasing their value and now you're asking them all the time

Starting point is 01:21:49 and coming across as needy, needy, needy, needy, you may actually be bringing your own value down for yourself. You may be pushing them away for sure. You may be pushing them away. Because confidence is attractive and it's called, it's attractive in both sexes, man and women, right? And it's unattractive of the opposite as well. So yeah, and hopefully he's picking up on that.

Starting point is 01:22:07 And then, you know, like that's something, like, internally just needs to kind of get self-motivated to, you know, pours energy in elsewhere, you know, and like, pick up on that feedback because that's something like, between partners, you need to maintain a certain level of communication where it's like, if I feel like I'm annoying, being annoying and pestering my partner, you need to maintain a certain level of communication where it's like, if I feel like I'm being annoying and pestering my partner, I have to read that and I have to understand that that's a problem, that's something I need to pull back, assess my own insecurities

Starting point is 01:22:37 and assess myself and pour myself into something constructive. And that's really difficult for a lot of people to understand and reflect on what they're putting out there like that. It's so funny because there's certain categories of clients that you get as a personal trainer and there's these common categories or common reasons why people are hiring. One of them is like, I wanna get in shape for my wedding. Another one is like a high school reunion

Starting point is 01:23:04 or there's a lot of them, right? They're kind of common where you hear them a lot. One of them, and they wouldn't say this, but as you get to know them, you could figure this out. One of them was, the person is thinking about leaving a relationship, so they're gonna hire a personal trainer and start to get in shape.

Starting point is 01:23:19 You know, often, that's what that happens. It's actually pretty crazy, where the person comes, either they just got divorced or things are kind of rocky. So now they're working out to try to improve their value because they're thinking about bouncing or whatever. Sure. Happened all the time. Yep.

Starting point is 01:23:33 Next question is from Stephanie K. Nutrition. What is the favorite place you've ever traveled to and why? Depends, right? So I have, I have like one of my favorite places I've ever been. I've been to Paris and Paris was amazing. But that was because I had never been really outside of the US. I don't really count Mexico. And that was an incredible experience for me

Starting point is 01:24:01 because I didn't realize how little history we have here. You know, like it's just, even when you go places that have been around for you. Yeah, we're a new country. When you look at all the rest of the country. Yeah, really, and so that was a real major experience for me to walk around and find myself just like staring at architecture and buildings.

Starting point is 01:24:21 You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't think that would be that big of a deal, but I really, really enjoyed that. So Paris was an amazing experience for me. But I'm more like a guy who wants to go somewhere. I work a lot, I grind hard. And so traveling all the way over to Europe, it can be a taxing, entire thing of the flight over there

Starting point is 01:24:43 and trying to get the places and do things. So if I'm in that kind of a mood, then that's a, it was an amazing experience. But if I'm in my normal mood, which is when I go on vacation, I want, I want room service, I want the top notch food, I want beach, I want like, so Jamaica was one of my favorite places that I've ever been for that. I stayed at the Royal Plantation, which isn't, I forget what movie that's in, but it's probably one of,

Starting point is 01:25:10 if not the nicest hotel in Ocho Rios in Jamaica. And it's just everything's red carpet treatment. And the hotel was amazing. The room that I was in was amazing. The beach that we had was private. The service there was incredible, the chefs that were on the resort were amazing, there was like a couple of these chefs were like famous for their dishes and stuff. So that for me was probably two of the my favorite places that I've ever traveled to.

Starting point is 01:25:42 For me it would be either Nice, which was in France, which was a long time ago, but gorgeous, gorgeous, gorgeous beach town. Incredible food. People were great. I mean, it was just, it was a great place to visit. The other one is gonna sound kind of cliché, or whatever, but I really enjoyed Kauai.

Starting point is 01:26:01 I had a fucking great time there. It's like obviously beautiful because it's an island, but we did a lot of like hiking and stuff. So we saw Wemmea Canyon. We did some of the Kalalau Trail. We did. We went on these ATVs where they filmed Jurassic Park. We did a few other things and it was just it's like amazing outdoor stuff, but also amazing beaches and super chill, kind of laid back attitude. And then the food, which was,

Starting point is 01:26:32 the fish was just incredible. I had such a great time there. In fact, I think Hawaii's gonna be a place that I staple place that I go to now, because I just was so, and the only reason why I didn't go before is because everybody goes there. So you're like, ah, let's try something different, whatever. No, man, I see why everybody goes and the only reason why I didn't go before is because everybody goes there. So you're like, ah, let's try something different.

Starting point is 01:26:46 Right. No, man, I see why everybody goes there, you know what I mean? Fucking amazing. It's gorgeous. That's funny. I haven't actually been in that many places, to be honest. Like I've been to Canada and I've been to, you know, obviously like, like Cabo and Hawaii.

Starting point is 01:27:02 I've been to, to, to Hawaii as well. So that was definitely one of my top ones as well. Did all the, you know, everything you could do on the island. We pretty much did that. And well, this year you're going to this year. Yeah. So this year like for my wife and I's 10 year anniversary, we just wanted and she's very, very much more traveled than me and has been pretty much everywhere in Europe. And it's cool because so she has like a lot of German heritage and actually knows and speaks German. So that's something in the future that you know what we're doing right now is kind of like retracing a lot of our heritage. And so this trip was gonna be about Scotland, Ireland,

Starting point is 01:27:46 and I've actually, I have been there before, which I kind of don't count it because I went with my brother and it was like a last minute thing. We had no money and we caught this thing, like this way before, like a lot of the websites were up for like, you up for cheap deals on flights. And so we were basically on standby on this thing called air hitch.

Starting point is 01:28:10 And it was like we were stuck in a hostage or a hostile hostage. Oh, a hostile situation. We're all in my gunpoint. Yeah, this story took a crazy turn. Yeah, it was a hostile. You needed Miss America. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:28:28 Come save me. Yeah, so we're actually in a, yeah, in a hostile in LA for like two days just waiting to get on a plane. Oh, what's a hostile like in LA? The horrible. What a, what a hippies did. Mally hippies.

Starting point is 01:28:41 And then, and so then we flew over into France, which is where we ended up in Paris, which was just like basically, we're waiting to get on another flight to get to England. And so it was just this really rushed, I got a little bit of a sense of the landscape and was able to see some sights and stuff, but I was like, man,

Starting point is 01:29:00 I just really wanna spend good time and like see things and like retrace was like, man, I just really want to spend good time and like, like see things and like, you know, retrace kind of our historical, you know, steps and family and all that kind of stuff. So anyway, so that's, I'm really, really looking forward to that. And so we'll see. You came to one of my favorites, Pots, Cabo. Cabo, I love to. That was amazing. Yeah, it's just because it's only a three hour flight. It's Mexico, like, people don't really talk about it much, but man, we're that place that we all went

Starting point is 01:29:27 together. I mean, that's a, we love that. Oh, man, I was so chill and relaxing. Like, that's me. Yeah. To me, that's my, like, not, it's not for everybody. Like, I know, sounds probably more adventurous, like, go out and do more stuff or I don't think we even like both. I don't know if we left left the house. I see I'm totally cool not leaving. If it's an environment like that, like it's perfect. But yeah, like I, there's some adventure in me still like to, to go kind of, so this will be kind of different than that, but yeah, I fully enjoyed.

Starting point is 01:29:53 I like both. One day, one day I wanna go, I wanna take you guys if we can all go to like Sicily and Southern Italy and the Mediterranean and you could, I mean, just, the culture is incredible. Absolutely, you can do that. It's amazing. And then I'm gonna throw it up, I can make that decision. And it's, it, the culture is incredible. Absolutely, you can do that. It's amazing. And then, I'm gonna throw it up.

Starting point is 01:30:06 I can make things decisions. It's so cool when you go to, I don't have to ask my parents. It's so cool when you go to an old country, like Italy where you'll be, like you're being Rome and you'll just, oh, there's something that's 2000 years old right there and there's something that's a thousand years old.

Starting point is 01:30:21 And there's even places like that in Sicily where there's Greek ruins and certain towns in Sicily. I would love, yeah, I definitely want to go in the Mediterranean, spend a lot of time there and see all those structures and all the old ancient civilization stuff. I want to take Courtney to Egypt at some point and do one of those really crazy tours

Starting point is 01:30:40 where they get the Sphinx and they give you all the back history and stuff. So the place I would love to travel, that I really wanna travel to, that has been on my mind for, I don't know, 20 years for whatever reason, Japan. And I told you guys, I wanna go to Japan. That doesn't even make my top 10.

Starting point is 01:30:58 I know, I'd love to go to Japan. That's what, thank you, finally. So we got three at a four, so you're out of number. I know Doug is down. I wanna go go the culture. Yes, they're yeah, it's it's fascinating Especially you know like samurai and like just going through all those like gardens It's so beautiful. Oh, I love Japanese culture. I want to go see some sumo fights I want to say hello. I want to have food in Japan. We go to Tokyo and we go to big city And I want to go where were you, we go to Tokyo, I want to go to a big city, and I want to go. What town were you in, Doug?

Starting point is 01:31:26 What were you in? I was near Osaka, which is south of Tokyo. Second largest city in Japan. See, we got to go to Japan, dude. We got to go to Japan. In Japan? I don't know, man. I just like crowds and crowds of people

Starting point is 01:31:38 like make me nervous, you know what I mean? Isn't Japan like that, too? Is it? Depends where you go. I thought it was a little less. I don't know. Yeah, it depends where you're at. Yeah, because were you lived, Doug? Wasn't it more rural?

Starting point is 01:31:48 Yeah, I was outside of the city about 40 minutes by train. It was very rural out there. Oh, okay. But so there's all types of different terrain in Japan. It's very diverse. I, the culture is what fascinates me the most. Like the karaoke bars and how. Do that be awesome.

Starting point is 01:32:03 Well, no, over there, it's different. Doug would tell me like the businessmen would get together, go to these bars and how... Dude, that'd be awesome. Well, no, over there, it's different. Doug would tell me, like, the businessmen would get together, go to these bars and get fucking blitzed. Yeah. Like, they'd get smashed after work or whatever. It's just an interesting culture, some of the... It's a hostess bar. Yeah, there you go.

Starting point is 01:32:17 The hostess bar. It's a karaoke bar, but you have a girl, a girl's and short skirts, serving you whiskey. Oh, okay, I'm afraid about that part. Yeah, yeah. So, I think you'd like it, Adam. I'm so dumb. It's who I dug as a fan. whiskey. Oh, okay. I'm afraid about that part. Yeah, yeah. So I think you'd like it, Adam. I can't see what I dug as a fan.

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