Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 834: Maximizing the Pump, Intuitive Training vs Following a Workout Program, Fixing Wrist Pain & MORE

Episode Date: August 11, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about what the pump is, scientifically... speaking, and how to get a great one, intuitive resistance training and its benefits or drawbacks vs tracking and following specific workout regimens, how wrist pain can be remedied and what to do to avoid imbalances if you frequently carry a heavy bag over one shoulder. Why it is important to stay open minded. (4:38) How to identify if you are hungry vs. a craving. (9:11) Why does veganism exist? How to fuel your body for the nutrients it needs. (14:20) Update on Justin’s carnivore experiment. How is his body adapting? (20:00) Update on the 6 Week Fitness Competition: Are the guy’s tracking their food intake? (24:25) What You Need to Know About Colonics. (26:59) Controversial topic alerts: Can you speed up your metabolism? How much cardio do you really need to lose body fat? (31:30) How listening to Mind Pump will increase you likelihood of acing the Health IQ quiz. (43:05) Are warranties worth it? Relationship challenges while moving? Adam updates the audience on his move and shopping for new furniture. (45:40) This Powerful Sculpture Shows the Inner Child In Us. (56:45) When certain things lose their allure, do you even want it anymore? (57:35) #Quah question #1 - What, scientifically speaking, is the pump and how to get a great one? (1:00:16) #Quah question #2 - Intuitive resistance training and its benefits or drawbacks vs tracking and following specific workout regimens? (1:18:29) #Quah question #3 - How wrist pain can be remedied? (1:27:40) #Quah question #4 - What to do to avoid imbalances if you frequently carry a heavy bag over one shoulder? 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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND We do our introductory conversation. We start out by talking about new age versus traditional spiritualism. Whoa. In the fitness industry. Battle Royale. It is a fight. Let's see, I was gonna say battle royale. Yeah, we're in sight each other's heads. We talk about Justin's.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Not all of them in sight, right? Yeah, yeah. We talk about Justin's Carnivore diet update. Is he painting toilets? Is he causing skid marks? Is it normal? It's more like soft serve. Find out in this episode. Find out about Justin's poop. Yeah. Is he painting toilets? Is he causing skid marks? Is it normal? It's more like soft serve.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Find out in this episode. Find out in the Augustan's poop. Yeah. We talk about Adam's shoulder update. I know it seems like he's getting injured every other day. He's guys are trying to savour talking. We gotta find out. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:00:56 Is he getting older? Sal, he's intuitively training. What's going on here? Yeah. I'm broken. We talk about colonics. I'm gonna be going to get one pretty soon. And it's not just for fun.
Starting point is 00:01:07 No, yeah, I can feel good. We tell you about a common theme. Yeah, we mentioned our new metabolism video on YouTube. So we did a whole video on YouTube on how to speed up your metabolism. Our YouTube channel, by the way, MindPumpTV. Go check it out. Then we talked about health IQ
Starting point is 00:01:27 and how it is saving people in life insurance. This is for fit people that, by the way, if you really fit and healthy, go to healthiq.com, forward slash Mind Pump, get a free quote, they are taking care of fit people. Then we talked about, Adam's move, he's moving right now into a new place. Will he and Katrina survive the move?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Who's doing the designing? How do you know that sounds like a TV show? Why is the bedroom just blue and gray? Find out in this episode. Then we talk about nice follow up to that. Resolving disagreements with your significant other. Oh yeah, absolutely. Then we get into the questions.
Starting point is 00:02:03 The first question was, what is the pump scientifically speaking and how can you get the best pump in your workout? Not just our newsletter. So we talk about how you can eat, things you should drink, how you work out to get the pump. What does it mean is it build more muscle and there are supplements that help you get a better pump. One of the best ones is beetroot powder,
Starting point is 00:02:22 which increases nitric oxide, which is also incidentally the main ingredient in Organifies Redjuice. Look at that. If you go to OrganifyShop.com, enter the code Mind Pump, you'll get 20% off, any of their supplements. Next question was, what are our thoughts on Intuitive Resistance Training? You thought I was going to say Nutrition, didn't you? Intuitive. You're close. Working out. So is that something you should aim for?
Starting point is 00:02:46 Is it possible? Is it possible? Next question was, how can wrist pain be remedied? That's a kind of a common one, especially here in Silicon Valley masturbating. People keep hurting their wrists just to increase it. Right wrist is the one that bothers them all the time. We talk about, we do it that way.
Starting point is 00:03:00 wrist strengthening and mobility movements in that part of the episode. And the final question, this individual carries around a 20 pound tool bag over his shoulder all the time. He switches shoulders, but is there anything else he can do to avoid injury? We give some great correctional exercise advice in that part of this episode.
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Starting point is 00:04:13 You'll get 50% off also on that site. We have our bundles. This is where we combine multiple maps programs and discount them. Bundle, love love. Our most popular bundle is which one is it Justin? Our most super bundles. It's super. It is is super it's a year of exercise programming literally 365 days Planned out for you you can find that bundle plus 50% off maps performance with the code green 50 at mine pump media Dot com we got your back Have you heard of the the term don't blow smoke up my ass. Did you know that that actually comes from, that's something they used to really do,
Starting point is 00:04:48 was blow smoke up your back up, blowing to back up somebody's ass. It's actually supposed to help you. Yes, it's supposed to help things. Have you seen, let's describe this, paint me this picture of how it looks like. Have you seen some of these, what do they call them?
Starting point is 00:05:04 They used to stick a tube in your ass and literally blow smoke up your ass. Yeah, ceremony, okay? Have you seen these, no, no, no, no, he's not wrong. No, no, no, it's so ridiculous. It is, okay, so you've seen these mystical ceremonies where the shaman or whatever is smoking on the tobacco and is like blowing it on you or.
Starting point is 00:05:21 All right, and then they kind of like use, yeah, like blow it around you and around your head and everything. Yeah, so tobacco smoke has been used for a long time in medicinal mystical ways. And one of the things that they would do is blow smoke up your ass. And of course, people make fun of that and say, oh, don't blow smoke.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Like you're telling me that what you're saying is real, but this is bullshit. You're just blowing smoke up my ass. Right, basically. Like that's, yeah, that's the bare bones. You know what makes me laugh about all this? Can I just tell you guys right now? I'm gonna go on a rant for a second. Here's what makes me laugh about all this.
Starting point is 00:05:56 We're in the fitness and health space, right? And the fitness and health space also has a very strong strain of spirituality, but it's, it's the spirituality that exists in the health spaces, the crystals, incense, the, you know, that side of it. It's a very new agey. Yeah, fine, there's nothing wrong with that. Which, you know, is something people subscribe to.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And I think there's a lot you can take from different practices, but it's funny then we bring on a Catholic bishop who's spiritual in the other in a different practices. But it's funny then we bring on a Catholic bishop who's spiritual in the other in a different way. And I'll get messages, not a lot, but I've had a couple of messages, people, you get a Christian on there, why don't you do a bit of that?
Starting point is 00:06:34 But if I had a person on here talking about the magic of crystals and how it heals your body, I don't think I would've been like, Oh, that makes sense. We already had a slew of fucking woo woo motherfuckers on this show. I've been saying that for a long time, and I think I've been really good and patient and just like,
Starting point is 00:06:52 I don't know if you remember, but you know me, and I'm showing my side when I get a little irritated with stuff, and when we would be off air and traveling and doing all these conversations, there was a part of me that was getting really irritable. I was like, can we please have a conversation with one of these guys and it not go to Iohasca and Mother Earth and all this stuff. They can just have an intelligent health fitness,
Starting point is 00:07:14 you know, it'd be like us opening up. Like do you know Jesus? Yeah. Right. That's my point is like if we were doing that, how fast will we turn everybody off? Everybody would be so turned off But it's so funny how we're so open to receive that but then we've been trained to like shun
Starting point is 00:07:30 So like information like that. I think it's just because it's different and it's That's the part that drives me crazy. It's only because only because of that Well, they don't see like the similarities and the parallels that they both have It's very obvious to me though. I think it's brilliant to look at, to have people from all different walks of spiritual life talk about their practices and what they do. Absolutely, absolutely. And I think there's things to take from most of them,
Starting point is 00:07:55 at least the ones, look, if a spiritual practice has gained a lot of, at least a lot of traction or some traction, probably helping people's lives. Yeah, there's probably a grain of truth, at least in that particular thing. And so I think it's important to stay open-minded. You don't have to buy the whole basket or whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:16 You could look in the basket and be like, okay, well, I like this piece. This makes sense. I like meditation, but that doesn't mean I have to become a Buddhist monk. I like when Paul Check talks about talking to his food and talking to his body before he eats, not because I think you're talking to the food spirit and stuff like that, but because it does make you stop for a second about what you're doing, right?
Starting point is 00:08:39 It's a good little practice. It's a good practice. I think that's all the stuff. Especially in times where there's not a lot put around the preparation of food practice. It's a good practice. So I think that's all especially in times where there's not a lot put around the preparation of food practice because back before we didn't really back before you have to kill it and skin it and then you know pluck it and take the time to you know you can just reach and grab in the fridge you know reach in the fridge and go throw it in the microwave. Yeah throw the microwave or open it yes in a wrapper or drive in a drive-through real quick like and just
Starting point is 00:09:03 mindlessly consume like you just could do that. It's so funny too, because with kids, one of the things I love about kids is their filters. They don't have as many filters as adults do. And so my kids will be sitting there, we'll be hanging out, and yesterday we were watching a movie together. We watched Sandlot, you inspired us. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I hadn't seen that movie in a long time. It was a great movie. It's a great movie. Great movie. Did they get inspired to hang out? I was like, please let you know. They're my kids, they're not your kids. So they don't have it. They don't have it. All right. They don't have a sports gene. Not at all. Not at all. Yeah, that's all right. But then they got the robot like daddy. What is that?
Starting point is 00:09:37 What are they doing? But I know kids have no idea. No, they got moved by the they got actually got moved by the the story of it. How they they grew up together and how the how Benny you know includes anyway. Yeah, they got included by the story of it, how they grew up together and how Benny includes, anyway, yeah, they got included into the groove. Yeah, that was what my kids really enjoyed. But anyway, as we're watching it, and we had dinner and everything, and my kids are like, I'm hungry. Is there anything to eat?
Starting point is 00:09:56 So I'm like, yeah, we have the rest of dinner. We have more, I have more ribeye, I have more broccoli. You guys can have some rice. No, I don't really want that. I want like a snack. And it's like it's so funny because you're not hungry. And I explained that to us and said,
Starting point is 00:10:11 well, you know, that means you're not hungry. This is a craving. Yeah, I mean, I said it means you're craving something. And I'm not judging it, right? I'm not telling my kids like that's wrong. I'm just helping them make a way to become more. Yeah, like that's not hunger. Don't call that hunger.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Call it craving because if you're hungry, then you'll pretty much want to eat almost anything. But yeah, you're right, dude, it's a pretty funny. Well, how do you handle that when that does happen? So continue that conversation. I'm just out of curiosity, how that goes. Like, does that end up you end up just allowing them, they end up going and getting a snack,
Starting point is 00:10:39 or do you do the sport? For the most part, most times they go, oh, wow, they think differently. What do you see? They usually don't think differently about it because they're kids, but I appreciate you being honest. No it's true. It's not only my kids are sitting on my eight-year-old daughter's not sitting there going, whoa. What is hunger? She's such an epiphany. She's an eye-big eye-roll.
Starting point is 00:10:58 Oh yeah. There goes dad. Yeah. Just like, I just had the god damn gummy baby. Yeah, yeah. It's like, fuck you, I want some crackers. Right. But no, we don't have, we typically don't have snacks. So when they say that, there's no option. So it's not, I thought I'd have to deny them, but like, well, sorry, we don't have anything in it. I have an apple. Do you want some strawberry?
Starting point is 00:11:17 You know, creative. I'll put peanut butter in apple for you. Yeah. You know, they say this like, it's like, meaty it's sivly. Favish. Yeah, exactly. So, anywhere. I gotta go through the same process, immediate sigh of like, fafters. Yeah, exactly. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:11:26 I gotta go through the same process in my kids. They would do it really? Oh yeah, do you guys have snacks at all or no? No, man, like I try not to at all. And, you know, every now and then, cause Courtney's a bit of a snacker. She loves chips and like crackers and stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And like I can't, like I can't have a stuff around me, but we went gluten free. So this is like these gluten free crackers that we still have in the house. And so like they'll, you know, they'll succumb to that at least they'll be like, okay, well, let me have some crackers in debt at least.
Starting point is 00:11:53 And I'm like, all right, whatever. You open the thing, it stinks so bad. Like have you ever had gluten free like crackers? I don't know. Oh man, they stink. Oh, today really? Yeah, I'm getting, I don't know. They're, they're, they're, they're,
Starting point is 00:12:07 they're super organic. Probably. Yeah, they must be too organic. There's some truth to that though. Like, this is dried broccoli. Probably not, they're not really good. I've had some gluten free crackers that are freaking good. I mean, it was tasty, but it stinks.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Yeah, one of the bread things, I think it was Doug who introduced me to the gluten-free chips at, I think, Whole Foods. Is it Whole Foods? You mean tortilla chips? Yeah. They're always corn. They're always gluten-free. Are they those get corn chips, or oh, yeah, corn is really good.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Well, corn chips, yeah, but I thought these were different, weren't they? From Whole Foods? Maybe they're not the Corn Tortilla chips, or maybe they're made with rice or something like that. Yeah, well, we had them in one of the houses. One of you brought them. I thought Doug, was it you or Doug who brought them. I don't know. Did you bring him Doug?
Starting point is 00:12:49 Was it you Justin it might have been me. Yeah, it's a lot because I was on that first time I ever had a Yeah, they weren't and they weren't bad at all. Yeah, there's a lot of good gluten free Gluten free doesn't mean you look for yeah exactly like that's the thing We still you still get a lot processed, you know food options out there with gluten. Yeah, it doesn't mean how I mean It's all so here yeah cuz here's what food manufacturers do is they say okay You can still get a lot processed food options out there with gluten free food. Yeah, it doesn't mean how it means. Yeah, cause here's what food manufacturers do is they say, okay, what are the trends in the market? Right.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And the market, oh, the market now starting to demand gluten free. And so the number one goal, if you want to make money, which is what they want to do, is to create a super highly palatable gluten free food. So then they get their scientists together and they say, okay, we need to create a cracker or whatever that's gluten-free, but also distaste them, amazing, and then they spend lots of money on doing that. And there's a lot of options.
Starting point is 00:13:32 There's buckwheat, quinoa, there's rice, potato, there's corn. And so they can make something that is gluten-free, but it's just as bad for you, maybe even worse, sugar is gluten-free, you know what I mean? Fat is gluten-free, I mean mean all the macronutrients. So when you guys are, see for me, I kind of just get rid of all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Like it's more of a nuisance to try and find things. Yeah, totally. Then I just, that's why I get annoyed. It's like, I don't even want crackers in my house. Right, no, like it's such a, like, it's not a food group, you know? That's like pointless. No, I really say what you do.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Instead of trying to find like a healthy option of it, it's just like it's just easier for me not to have it in the house. It's getting to the point say what it is. Instead of trying to find a healthy option of it, it's just easier for me not to have it in the house. It's getting to the point where it's almost as bad as the vegan, because vegan market now has been around for a while. But if you go in the grocery store and you look at the vegan food options, they are just processed chemical shit storms, man. Dude, I get you so funny. The burgers and the hot dog.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I don't know if we meant. Did we mention something recently on a show because I've gotten more DMs lately around people that are we mentioned trying to get that vegan bodybuilder on right? I think that's what we talked about. So yeah, people are reaching out about and it's so funny when I, you know, they'll tell me like, hey Adam, I'm vegan and I'm trying to get this and I'm trying to figure my mac rows out for this and I'm having a hard time getting this and I'll respond back to them. I always ask like you know is can I ask is there a reason why you're vegan and I don't know It's just healthier. I heard or yeah, it's just they're always response. Oh, percent. It's good
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, or I don't really like meat that much. I'm like, okay Well, I give there's probably some meats that you don't like but but why follow a diet just because you don't like a couple of the foods in that food group, right? Like why not fit? And she brought up, like, oh, should I eat fish? I'm not sure about if that's healthy or not. I'm like, absolutely, if you're having a hard time getting protein, you're a better source of that
Starting point is 00:15:20 would be coming from fish than like your tofu and stuff, which is where, and protein shakes, which is where she's getting most of her protein. Instead of trying to stick to a diet, just to say you're sticking to a diet, even though you wouldn't mind having fish, this is what drives me crazy about it. And I'm picking on vegan right now. This goes for keto people, goes for paleo people, goes for all of them, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:15:40 Because they're all guilty in the slather and butter on everything. Yeah, it's like you're, Well, you're, yeah, exactly. You're following a diet, you know, and you care more about sticking to the parameters and like probably feeding your body would actually, it needs in that moment or that time because you're lacking in your diet. Well, veganism especially, veganism doesn't exist
Starting point is 00:15:57 because people are trying to eat, we're trying to create a healthier diet. That's the truth. Veganism exists because people were trying to create a diet that didn't involve hurting animals. Right.'s not cruelty. So it's different than other diets in that particular sense. Now when people go vegan because they think it's healthier, that's when I like to have conversations with them and we can educate and talk about that it's not necessarily healthier. In some cases it may be because you might have a terrible, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:22 omnivore diet, but if they're both very healthy, it's way harder to get all the nutrients, way harder to get them out. Well, this is what we've addressed, and it's been a while since we have addressed it, but you know, every client that I ever had that switched from eating whatever, you know, whatever diet they are following before
Starting point is 00:16:37 to go and vegan that had felt amazing, you know, 90% of those clients was, because what was wrong was you weren't getting hardly any... You were getting any vegetables. Eating vegetables. You know, this process garbage food, and now you've made that switch, like try just doing that and watch what a difference that will make.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Get rid of all the process, foods, increase your intake of vegetables, and get back to me. And tell me if you don't see the same response in your body, it's not that... Yeah, usually it's like a complete 180. I was like eating all process stuff and meat and cheese and then now I'm just doing veggies only. Exactly. And then they get married to that. Yeah, they get married to it.
Starting point is 00:17:17 And what happens many times too is a diet may work for a while, but then that diet may lack something that your previous diet didn't. So now, by the way, when you're lacking in a nutrient or when you're low in a macronutrient even, it takes a little while for that to start to show up. So for example, our bodies are resilient. Yeah, so for example, like, a lot of people go keto, hardcore, and keto foods many times include things like
Starting point is 00:17:41 sardines, avocados, bacon, those types of things. Those foods also produce and contain lots of histamine. many times include things like sardines, avocados, bacon, those types of things. Those foods also produce and contain lots of histamine. And over time, if your body doesn't get rid of that histamine fast enough, you can cause histamine buildup, which brain fog, you start to feel irritable, you start to get gut issues. And this is what Dr. Ruscio enlightened you on, right?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Because this was something that you were trying to figure out. You weren't feeling great on the keto diet. And I was probably that. And so, but that's the thing. Like, you could go on a diet for months and not notice any negative effects, but then because it's the same way all the time, then you may start to, like, you could have a diet
Starting point is 00:18:18 that's very low in iodine, for example, or very low in a, in a, in a, you know, another nutrient in mineral for example and you're but you feel great because it has what you were missing in your previous diet But then you stay on that diet too long and now all of a sudden you start to feel that actually depletes you of iodine is that true? I know I think iodine is you get a lot of it in shellfish and in seaweed and stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:45 And the depletion of nine's, I think, I think it cause weird effects. I mean, if it's really bad, you can get like a goiter and you can have thyroid issues, but you can start to feel things like anxiety and stuff. So, but anyway, that's a thing. Like, what works for you now may not, and usually doesn't work for you kind of forever, you know?
Starting point is 00:19:03 And so you gotta kind of look at this. And you know, it's gotta rotate it out, man. Keto people and for you kind of forever, you know, and so we gotta kind of look at this. It's gotta rotate it out, man. Keto people and vegans all of them, they all, this is all the thing that I see is, as soon as they adopt a new diet, they see this great change in response in their body because it was probably, they were like, just like we were talking about the vegans switching over,
Starting point is 00:19:18 when the Keto people switch over, now all of a sudden they're getting all these healthy fats that they're probably their body needy because we know it in the last 20 years how much we demonize fat in the market for so long. So most people, including myself, I was a trainer like this, being a trainer, been through nutrition, new all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, he's a tel-clients, don't worry about fat. It'll find a 20-year-old. That's exactly what I used to say to people. Fats in almost everything, don't worry, it'll get in there. And it's like that terrible advice. And I didn't realize that until I went keto and ate such an abundance of fat.
Starting point is 00:19:50 And I thought, oh my God, my skin, I feel good, energy, I'm satiated, like holy crap, my everything felt better. But it wasn't like, okay, it's because I need to be on keto. It's like, yeah, my body was deprived of this for a long time, I gave it to it, you know? Well, also, too, you go through this carnivore diet. I haven't advertised the fact, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:08 I've talked about it on the show, but like I don't want, I'm not like advertising it as, like so awesome. And like this is like such a great method for everybody because, you know, even for me, I know right away, like I feel certain benefits from it, all right, just because like I've eliminated some inflammatory types of foods in my diet. Like it it's that's what I know. I know this.
Starting point is 00:20:28 It's so it's reduced down to this one thing that that my body responds to fairly well, but like I am so looking forward to introducing carbs and introducing, you know, vegetables or you get real sick of it. I'm like it's not not that easy. Is it really is, like in the beginning, like the first maybe seven days, I would say, I was like, I don't, like I was getting frustrated because it was like really, like I wouldn't enjoy, I wasn't looking forward to anything. You know, it's just like, it's kind of, it's kind of like just shoveling it in
Starting point is 00:21:02 and it's all a lot of the same. But my body actually now is like, it is craving. Like it craves like those. So interesting. Yeah, I turn totally a complete corner with it, but I'm checking myself mentally because I do want to make sure that, you know, I'm transitioning out of this. I'm not living in this.
Starting point is 00:21:21 This is not like the end all. Like I know, like, I was worried about like my shits. Like, I really was. Like, how's this going to go? You know, like, it's totally an experiment. What are, what are, I mean, I know some people want to appreciate this, but I'm curious, how is your stool? What if you have, have you noticed changing it at all? How many times you are? What it's a lot, I mean, the frequency of it has definitely gone down. It's less bulk. Yeah, so, but like you'd think that it was like the paint, the toilet blasted out, kind of shit, and it's pretty easy. It's been a nice, you know, calm shit. Really. So I've been
Starting point is 00:21:59 actually thoroughly pleased with it. I'm like, oh, yeah, the other ones were just like, ah, yeah. Yeah, he's got a hold on for dear life. He said blast it. You said today you made a comment that you were feeling cold. More often. Yeah. Because you get a leaner, bro.
Starting point is 00:22:15 No, it's not. See that's what I said. And then Sal's has this other conspiracy in behind it. It's because he's getting leaner, dude. No, you're not going to listen. OK, you have to get really lean before you lose the Insulating effective body fat. No way bro. I know way I disagree with that is not why he's colder
Starting point is 00:22:32 I'm not cold you just you're still fat No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah That's not like a lot farther your your colder because your calories have dropped and your metabolism is slowing down It's trying to adapt and so you cool if you were to bump your calories within three days you be warm I mean you're also cool You're also cool because you have less fat on your fucking body, bro. A lot of all those are factors. So here's the thing. I know what you're saying. Fat does have an insulating effect, but it's not what people think. It's not nearly the insulating effect of muscle. This women, for example, typically feel colder than men do, and women always
Starting point is 00:23:06 tend to carry a higher body fat percentage. It's not that the, he's lost his huge population. I'm treating you like a woman. No. How many pounds down are you? Me, uh, ten, I think now. Yeah. Ten, ten pounds.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Yeah, and that's distributed all over his entire body pretty evenly, okay? That's like a blanket. It's not a map. A blanket of fat. A blanket of fat. Just gotta take it up, man. No, no, no, no. Is that a thick blanket?
Starting point is 00:23:31 You know what I'm saying? But it's a blanket. Watch when you refeed. Once you start to refeed, give us two, three days after, even before you gain body fat. Honestly, I'm not seeing it. I have a worry. The increase of calories will create a thermite.
Starting point is 00:23:42 That's what I'm saying. That will heat his body. That's what I'm saying. that will heat his body that's what I'm saying it's not his metabolism is adapting downward because that's what's gonna happen Yeah, that's been my worry the whole time is like you know going because it is very very easy to go low Calorie with this that's so my biggest concern for you is when you come out of this motherfucker This is gonna be a beast. He just he doesn't care.. He wants to win, bro. Listen, you gotta go fuck about it. You gotta say competition, you know? We're gonna, you're fault.
Starting point is 00:24:08 We're gonna do like those celebrity challenges where they now, you know what I'm saying now? So, we're gonna do that afterwards, bro. Just so you know, it's gonna be like a 60 days where they now, Justin's like in the hospital. Big old beer. Fat as fuck. Big old beer, basically.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's just, cheeseburger is all over. So you're down 10 and then is your body weight changed at them? I'm down one pound. Down one which that's good. I'm down now six or seven. Whoa. Yeah maybe six or seven. Whoa is skinny mini.
Starting point is 00:24:36 He's going for the shreds. No, don't go too fast to lose muscle. No, I know what I'm doing bro. I'm flexuating because I'll cut harder and then I'll bump a little bit, but right now I'm down maybe six, six or seven. Are you counting calories or macros or anything? No, I never do.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I mean, I look at it kind of, you know, and I'll generalize, but not really. I just go by feel. So like yesterday was a, this week my calories are gonna be lower, much lower than they have been. And then over the weekend, I'm gonna have more food. And we'll see. We'll see how I feel. I'm judging off performance, judging lower than they have been. And then over the weekend, I'm going to have more food.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And we'll see. We'll see how I feel. I'm judging off performance, judging off how I'm low. Yeah. Yeah. It's also pain in the ass to enter things. Above everybody.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah. That's not what it is. Well, we'll see. We'll see. Above the rest of us minions. Yeah. No, I think tracking has got tons of value. But in six weeks, I'm not, here's a deal.
Starting point is 00:25:25 If I was trying to get down to 3% body fat, I would for sure start adding things up, but then you can get to the 3% body fat. I'm not even tracking that hard right now, because I don't need to. That's what I'm saying. There's levels to where I have to be tracking your weight. I was just actually talking to Enzo last time.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I'm tracking one thing. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. But I do, I am paying attention though. So I'm paying attention to my steps and my movement throughout the day.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So I, and I, I changed my intake based off of that. So, you know, the other day after my shoulder hurt, I ended up, that was probably, is this still hurt by the way? Yeah. It's not better? No, it's better than what it was You know witch doctor something. I know fuck
Starting point is 00:26:08 This is blowing smoke up his. Yeah, plus a smoke up here. Thank you. Actually You're welcome. I'm supposed to help. Yeah, no, I won't be that guy. Uh, yeah, no, I'm sorry, uh, and again today I'm gonna, you know, yesterday I did legs, you know, but even just I I did walking lunges with really light dumbbells and just the holding the dumbbells Fucking oh, sure let me up right so It's still hurting. So you only lost a pound of muscles so far It's like you're running. It's like a lot This right meal that goes nowhere like you're running, it's like a log. You're jumping in front of me. This light meal that goes nowhere. I could like that though, you like it like that.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It's not a fun meal. That's why it's happening. Yeah, of course, I might have, that's what Katrina would say. She's like, you're bringing it upon yourself. Oh no, no. Oh no. No, she would say that.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah, no. Speaking of shits, you know, my girl just booked for both of us. What? Hydro-colonic. Oh my God, near nearly is a colonic. Yeah, yeah, so she just did one this morning. And so we had, so she's like doing this like,
Starting point is 00:27:11 do you have anything? No, no, no. You haven't even done the animal with coffee at, bro. I've been waiting for your, I feel like that's another, that's the next level. I don't feel like that's the first thing to do. You go colonic first? What do you think an animal, it's kind of like that.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Well, this is in a place, like so. Oh, there's like clinical people. Yeah, no, no, no. I feel like the doon it to yourself and the bathroom would be the first one. I feel like that's the easiest. I don't know about that. You know what I'm afraid of?
Starting point is 00:27:34 This is why I'm afraid of putting coffee in my butt because you absorb things that way. Yeah, exactly. And I'm sensitive to caffeine. And what I'm afraid of is I'm gonna put coffee up to some maybe you'll do better with it that way. Do some decals. That'll be like the go to. Get that crazy. Just do some decals.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Throw some pre-workout. Amel pre-workout. See, that was an experiment. So she went this morning and she was a little apprehensive. And one of her friends has been telling her, like, I do this. It's so awesome. And, you know, and I've always been like, that's stupid, you don't need to do that. Because how have we been taught
Starting point is 00:28:07 in through personal training certifications, what have they always said about, you know, getting, you know, hydro-colonics and fasting and all those different things, right? They laugh at them. It's all like hooking. Yeah, the body detox is per, by, well, by itself. No need to fast, it's stupid, you're liver detox,
Starting point is 00:28:23 you don't need to do hydro-colonics, your body, whatever. And they've always been saying that. So that's what I've stuck to. But because I've changed my mind on so many different things. And because her friend has been telling her for so long. And then I started to think myself, how many cultures have been doing versions of colonics to cleanse or whatever? It's actually pretty damn widespread all over the place. I said, okay, there might be something to this. It's kind of interesting. So she went this morning and she was like, she was texting me while she's doing it.
Starting point is 00:28:52 And she's like, yeah, it's kind of weird. Well, so they put you in a room. Good to do, good to do. It comes with a gravy train. Oh, I got the face timing. I got the video if you guys want it. No, I'm just kidding. So she says to me, it's fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You gotta try this. It feels great. And by the way, it's self-administered. So where she went, they tell you what to do. And then you do it yourself. And so I guess what happens is it pumps in water. And then when you're ready for it to come out, then you push the water and it sucks the water back out and you do this kind of back and forth back and forth
Starting point is 00:29:27 To watch it. Yeah, they that's a weird. I don't know if you get to watch it or whatever But she's like dude, I feel amazing. She's like I feel incredible. She's like stuff came out or whatever And she's a very healthy person So she's like I bought you a session. So I'm gonna go try it out. Let you guys know what I have known friends who've done it and mainly yeah Mainly it wasn't like they were being proactive about their health It was because of something that was wrong, you know like internally and then so that that was like they're trying to like figure it out by like Using a colonic to kind of get in there. So it's interesting dude. Yeah, I'll let you guys know. I don't know Yeah, maybe I'll bring I would willingly go do that maybe I'll bring in so it's right. He can he can film the whole thing
Starting point is 00:30:07 Let you guys know I feel like I probably have a clean asshole. So I don't think I need it yet I feel like I need a lot of loop. Yeah, whoa. I swim backwards in the pool occasionally Really just naturally Oh, dude that brings up a good point though like water scheme, you know like oh, man There's been some times. Yes, that's our way up there. point though, like water skiing, you know? Oh, man, there's been some times. That's the last time you hit me. Oh, yeah. With water skins.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Oh, bro. You'll spin it out your mouth. When you actually try and jump and be athletic, bro, I'm gonna tell you something right now. You know, like when you try and like do things that are like super, like you just, you lose your shit and then you fall and it's really bad. Like, I've done a couple times where like water just went shh, like way up in there.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Water goes up your butt from water skiing. Think about it, man. I mean, make sand for me, for an hour and you slam on your butt first and shorts are, you know, the water penetrates them shorts. That makes a lot of sense. And then I regretted it immediately. I was like, that was a stupid idea.
Starting point is 00:31:00 So hold on a second. Jumping like that. After the water, the lake, and by the way, it's lake water, that goes up your butt. Yeah, it's not sparring out your mouth. That's pit, that's pit, that's what like that. After the water, the lake, and by the way, it's lake water, that goes up your mouth. Yeah, it's not sprouting. It's not sprouting. That's your mouth, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:31:07 That's what that is. That's parasites, dude. Yeah, I'm a baby. It's baby. They're beneficial, though. So hold on a second. It goes up your butt. Then what are you doing when you're in the water?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Do you have to push it out? Or do you leave it in there? Oh, you know, it just hurts. I think you absorb it. Kind of burns and then it goes out, you know. Jesus. I'm definitely not going to be water skiing. I'm just going to, I wasn't going to do that anyway. Yeah. Jesus. Definitely not going to be a lot of skin. I wasn't going to do that
Starting point is 00:31:26 anyway. I know. Dude are the video that I recorded recently on on metabolism had a boost from metabolism. That should be up on YouTube pretty soon. Oh, is that up and going? Yeah, I think that's going to be up there. That's a very controversial topic apparently. You know, it's funny. We've been talking about reverse dieting and speedy-daping metabolism through training. And I've actually had people send me articles saying that that's not true and that can't happen. That you can't speed up your metabolism by reverse dieting, doing these different things.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Which is, this is the thing about studies. Studies have to be done really well, but through our experience, it's very true. I've done it so often that I can count on the fact that we're gonna be able to speed someone's metabolism up considerably. So it's crazy to me that that's something that's, that's, you know, people still...
Starting point is 00:32:14 Well, people are contesting you too about like the cardio, not being the most advantageous way, like actually doing a ton of cardio will actually lower your metabolism. Yeah, people were getting upset about that. Some people like, no, cardio is great. And I'm like, well, I never said it wasn't. All I'm saying is if you depend on that,
Starting point is 00:32:33 is that becomes your primary tool for fat loss? It's gonna be very difficult and your body will start to adapt and then you'll be in a position where you have to do lots of cardio just to maintain, because your metabolism is a bit... If you were to give somebody a cardio Regimen or prescription for most of their life for health purposes Because we what what would that look like to you like three times a week of hit cardio?
Starting point is 00:32:56 I would go I would do a little bit of hit and then a little bit of steady state So it'd be like one for the average person. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, well, average person, I don't even know if I'd recommend hit. Cause the average person can't. Well, hits, that's all seen now. That's hit is prescribed poorly by some people, but hit can still work for somebody who's morbidly obese in, I mean, hit, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:18 It's hanging on the tool or device freezing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like a bike or how I always taught, you know, I taught it just through breathing, a breathing test, you know, yeah, yeah.'s like a bike or how I always taught, you know, I taught it just through breathing, a breathing test, you know. Yeah, I guess you're right. So I would probably do here once a week and maybe two days a week a steady state,
Starting point is 00:33:31 you know, something like that, like 20, 30 minutes of steady state and like a 10 minute hit session once a week, if it's just for health, if they're also resistant to straining, cause here's the thing, resistance straining, if you do it properly, you are gonna get cardiovascular benefit as well.
Starting point is 00:33:43 Well, that's, yeah, that's definitely a factor. And I think too, like, you could, like, I've definitely gone through phases where I'm focused on just hit cardio and so I'll do like a couple of weeks, but it's like intermittent, like it's in spurts, just to maintain like certain levels of endurance
Starting point is 00:34:01 and athleticism as far as like, being able to get up and be explosive and have, you know, a gas tank behind it. When you look at exercise and you look at it in a way, like, okay, what's gonna provide me the most benefit for my health long term? You also have to look at it in the context of, you know, your life and what that entails.
Starting point is 00:34:21 So here's a deal with cardiovascular training. Cardiovascular training definitely can strengthen the heart and the lungs and it builds, it can build lots of endurance. One of the best, yeah, obviously it's cardiovascular training. So if you want to build cardiovascular endurance, that's the type of training that you want to do. But what are the health benefits? It works your heart and it's good for your lungs. Now in the context of normal everyday life, do you need tons and tons of stamina and endurance? Not really, you don't need a ton of it, okay?
Starting point is 00:34:48 What you need. What you need. I mean, you need endurance, you wanna be able to, to, you know, hike or do things with your kids and stuff like that, but you don't need the endurance to run five to 10 miles and so you just don't need that. Now people will say, well, I don't need to have all the strength either, I don't need to be able
Starting point is 00:35:02 to deadlift, you know, 300 pounds in squat all this way, which is true. You don't need tons of strength. You're not lifting crazy heavy things all day long, but that's not really why we push the strength. It's not because, you know, we think every day you need to be super massively strong. It's because in the context of modern life, the best insurance you can have for your health is more muscle, which equals a faster metabolism and also makes energy. And it makes you more insulin-sensitive.
Starting point is 00:35:29 So if you're sedative all day long and you're exposed to all this food, it makes more sense to focus on strength than it does to make it the focus all on endurance. Do you see what I'm saying? Of course. If our everyday life consisted of, oh, I have to hike five miles to get my water,
Starting point is 00:35:46 I have to jog over here to do that. Well, then yeah, you want to want to train to get that much of endurance. But our lives are not that physically demanding. So when I look at working out from a health perspective, for clients, I look at it as, okay, what is their day-to-demand? What are the challenges that are going to come?
Starting point is 00:36:01 And how can we ensure against the negatives of those? And strength training helps to fortify the joints? Like versus like if you're just focused on cardiovascular all the time, like there's a point of where it starts to wear down in the tissue actually, it kind of wears down against you. As you get older in modern societies,
Starting point is 00:36:20 as you get older, what are the killers? What are the killers? Besides heart disease and diabetes, which we just talked about, having a faster metabolism is a great insurance against those. So let's eliminate those for a second. Let's look at the other ones, falling down and hurting yourself. Immobility, hormone changes. Okay, all three of those things,
Starting point is 00:36:41 the hormone changes can cause health problems, but really that's the quality of life that you end up losing. Falling down hurting yourself, that can definitely kill you. Loss of mobility is a quality of life thing. Those three things, strength training, proper strength training. It addresses those. 100%. Completely.
Starting point is 00:36:56 100%. Cardiovascular training does a little bit, but it's not the same, not even close. It's not. You know, so that's, and resistance. Not only that, but it can also, and this is where I think people get frustrated when you say stuff like this, or you trigger people, is it can make a lot of problems worse. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I mean, if you have poor walking mechanics and then you go run, like you have no idea what you're compounding right then. It's the exaggerated version of that. Yeah, that's right. And you don't have to be that far off for it to be bad. When you're running for distance like that, we're 30 minutes to an hour, some longer,
Starting point is 00:37:29 and that constant pounding. I mean, it reminds me when, I remember when we all had a million boon on, and I just like listening to him, I'm like, God, damn, dude, like the punishment her body has taken, like, is crazy. And I have all the respect in the rover because she's a fucking crazy athlete
Starting point is 00:37:45 I mean fact that she has high performing the most disciplined human beings. Oh, yeah, she is a she's a fucking savage, but at the same time too like her body my heart breaks for her thinking about what she's gonna feel like in 10 15 years because of that constant repetitive. Well, that's and that's just it cardiovascular activity is it's repetitive. It, that's, and that's just it. Cardi vascular activity is, it's repetitive. It doesn't lend itself well to training different movement patterns necessarily. And let's be real. If you want to, if you're trying to correct muscle
Starting point is 00:38:13 and balances and improve mobility, you don't use cardio, no correctional exercise specialist in the world uses cardio to work on, like if you have forward shoulder or you have an anterior posture or pelvic tilt or if you have knee pain or whatever, cardio is a terrible way to correct and balance this because there's not much you can do. Yes, there's different forms of cardio like you could swim or you could run or you could
Starting point is 00:38:36 hike or you could, right? But resistive training is extremely versatile. I could take anybody, anybody and I can do resistance training with them because I can modify it to their body. Cardio doesn't really allow itself. Now, what's the benefit of, what's the plus side of cardio? It's simple. What's the negative of resistance training, it's complex.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Resistance training's far more complex. I could get an elliptical trainer and almost anybody could get on there. Which is why most people give up right there. Right out the bed. Like, I don't know. I don't know how to squat. I don't know how to deadlift. I don't know how to do these movements.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I've heard scary things. I've heard of people injuring themselves. And so there's that fear of getting started. It's a steeper learning curve for sure. It's tough too, because like you see that even in like the app market. Like if it comes to a fitness app, it's usually like some kind of walking step count or like running and that's it because people just, they have to be able to get up
Starting point is 00:39:31 and do it like right away without like having to think too hard about it. Yeah, that's just kind of what you're dealing with. And so I think that that's definitely, it's unfortunate because we treat strength training that way. We also treat nutrition that way. Yeah. I mean, those two things I feel like people,
Starting point is 00:39:46 it's so, you mean, you have to figure it out. Just tell me what diet to find. Yeah, exactly. Just whatever the need is. Tell me the plan, tell me the grocery list. I don't wanna think about it. Right, how many times do we hit, I mean, as soon as when Keto came out and Carnivore,
Starting point is 00:39:59 I mean, as soon as these things fasting, like, as soon as they become popular, it's like, you hear all these people that are doing it, it's just because it's easy. It's something for them. Of course, if you want to write a book on a diet and you want to make a lot of money, it has to do, it has to have a few things. A, it's got to be catchy.
Starting point is 00:40:13 If it's counter to what people have been told for a long time, that's great. So it's like, it's been low fat for a long time. Oh, here, eat all the fat you want. If it's been low carb all the time, eat more carb, whatever. It's got to be catchy. It's got to be simple as fuck, super, super simple. It's gotta be low calorie, otherwise people aren't gonna
Starting point is 00:40:29 lose weight. So if I can make it as simple as hell, that literally is the formula. That is the formula, it's 100%. So when you go back and look at all the diets that we've come across in the last 20 years, you can go to Barnes & Noble and there's a fucking huge shelf of all these books.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And read them all, the one thing that they all have in common is a calorie deficit. Yeah, of course. It's exactly in carnivore diets. It's hilarious to me because, wow, I get people actually criticizing the way I'm doing it and all these kinds of things,
Starting point is 00:40:58 I'm like, what? I do criticize your dreams. Because I use different meats sometimes, you know, it's not the same exact thing with like, like no flavor, just water and meat. Like that's like, so anyway, it's just, it's just funny to me because like really the benefit, everybody gets to meet it is like weight loss, right?
Starting point is 00:41:15 So I think it's like their bodies like, oh, I'm just so much more receptive to this. Well, guess what? You're on like a super low calorie diet. Yeah, right. And like you said, you're eliminating inflammatory foods. And that, you're eliminating carbohydrates. All the load and all the stuff.
Starting point is 00:41:30 The water retention, all these things you're seeing. That's one of the reasons why fasting is becoming a very popular way to diet. Also, unfortunately, yeah. But it's easy, because it's easy. Like I said, if I wrote a book that was called the every other day diet, and I said, hey, every other day eat whatever you want
Starting point is 00:41:46 and then every other day don't eat at all, super simple basic rule. There is one. I know. And I could sell the fuck out of it, right? It's easy, right? I could say, hey, here's your two rules. Every other day eat whatever you want,
Starting point is 00:41:57 every other day don't eat at all. People are like, oh my God, easiest diet ever. I'm gonna try it and then they'll lose weight because they cut the calories by 50%. Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. That's not with intermittent intermittent fasting array. There was people that were like using healthy foods in adjacent to the Intermittent fasting and then there was people that are like no, you can eat like McDonald's and this doesn't matter Doesn't matter. Do those guys still exist? Remember when we first started talking shit about all that stuff and then people would tag us on like the pizza guy the guy who would
Starting point is 00:42:22 Yeah, he's still there. He's got a huge following, by the way. Really? It's so... Oh, that guy that had like fruit loops on his pizza. Yes, it's custom. And like, he does, they do all these food challenge. Look how lean I am and... Yes, terrible.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah, that irritates. Yeah, he's promoting such a terrible shit. So those guys still, I was wondering if that was just like a fad for a while where people are watching that 7-1. Yeah, that's what we're gonna get smart on. What a reflection on society. That a guy like that has half a million followers, you know what I mean? I mean, maybe people mostly are watching just to do what we're doing and be like,
Starting point is 00:42:52 oh, fuck. It's because we're all, I doubt it. There's a lot of people like, yeah, I want to do that too. That's crazy. Yeah, we're the, you know, the Moripovic Ricky Lake generation. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's, we tune it. You would tune in that.
Starting point is 00:43:04 You can't look away. It's like watching a train wreck. Yeah, I hate that. You know, by the saying? Like, you would tune in that. You can't look away. It's like watching a train wreck. Yeah, I hate that. You know? By the way, did you guys see on the forum, one of our members sells life insurance and he went through the health IQ process? Did you guys read the post?
Starting point is 00:43:18 No, I didn't read that. So he went through, so he's, I can't remember his name. He does life insurance, so this is a field that he's very aware of. Yeah. He was in our form, he did the whole process, he actually applied, and he said that the whole process is like a hundred questions, and he said that you'll get
Starting point is 00:43:33 discounts for competing in fitness things, like if you're in the NPC or if you're a runner, like I asked you a whole bunch of questions to, and he said they're good questions to ensure that you're a fit and healthy person. And he said that the quote he got was lower than what he's able to quote people. Oh, it's dope.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Oh, that makes me happy. Isn't that great? Oh, that's cool. So they're really, really dedicated, really dedicated to just serving like the fitness, health, mind, and community. So what I gotta do is really like listen to 10 of our episodes and you'll just ace it.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I had a head time. I know. Remember when we took the test, do you remember when they first, their first promotion they did when we were, we first got sponsored by them, we were doing the actual, yeah, the IQ test with for him. I mean, I got some wrong. I mean, I didn't ace it.
Starting point is 00:44:19 I was like, damn, dude, but it's 90% of time. Yeah, yeah. I think they had some faulty questions. I think you and I scored the same, I believe. We did, yeah, both kind of. Yeah, we should add some, yeah. They've readjusted sense, right? Yeah, but maybe they adjusted because of us, I think.
Starting point is 00:44:32 No, no, no, no, no, this isn't right. But that's an interesting field if you think about it because when it comes to life insurance or health insurance or whatever, your rate is calculated off you, but it's also calculated based off of all the other risk that they are with all the other people. And it's kind of not fair when you're like, here's a deal, people talk about, people talk a lot about like the Obamacare or whatever. If you're a really fit healthy person, you kind of get fucked. You're doing your paying for people
Starting point is 00:45:04 who are really unhealthy. And because you're fit're doing, you're doing, you're paying for people who are really unhealthy, aren't they sick? And because you're fit and healthy, you don't cost that much. You know, fit and healthy people don't cost the health, you know, health companies or whatever, that much money. Which is backwards.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah. You know, and I'm glad that there's a company like this that is kind of addressing that and actually building currency within, you know, you being health conscious, you doing the right types of things. Yeah, because if I'm gonna get life insurance and I'm a fit and healthy person,
Starting point is 00:45:30 my risk is way lower. I'm probably not gonna die as, or my odds of dying early or much lower than most way lower. Dude, not to switch gears on your incredible commercial right there, but we did it. We do this, we've been buying furniture from this company called trading spaces, oh fuck, I fucked them up. Trading spaces?
Starting point is 00:45:51 No, no, didn't you, I think Doug, you remember the name of it. It's over in Fremont anyways. What I thought was cool, I've never seen this before, is all of my, all the furniture I've bought there, I've put the insurance on it, which I normally turn down both shit like that. Oh, you buy the insurance? What do I do? But this is the first furniture I've bought there, I've put the insurance on it, which I normally turn down bullshit like that. Oh, you buy the insurance or what? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:07 But this is the first time I've ever been pitched this, they're like, yeah, it's insured for the next five years. And if you don't collect on the insurance or use it, you actually get refunded the money towards store credit, anything you wanna get in here. What? Oh, that's a no-brainer. They give money back.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Yes, also. And how expensive is the insurance? Like, three, $500, pin on the piece, right? How big the piece was, but somewhere between three, but I was like, shit, I'll pay for that. If I know I'm getting it back, you never get it back. And this is for furniture. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Oh, that's not bad. No, I thought that was, I thought that was, I've never like, you know, some warranties. Yes, you got some living spaces. That's the name of it. You sure you're not getting a shucking jive by the dude? Oh yeah, dude. And then like, you know, a couple of years later,in' Jive by the dude? Oh yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:46:45 And then like, you know, a couple of years later, it's out of business. Yeah, it was shit. Buy a membership at our gym. No, no, no, this works in Japan, Hong Kong clubs. We in this location. Yeah, we're in this place. Oh man, I got a drive here and I got a fax this dude.
Starting point is 00:46:58 Who even has a fax machine here? They have some way too. I love some, there's gotta be somebody who listens to our show that works here. This company is so huge. They, I don't think they get paid on, well they say they don't get paid on commission, right? But they are like very thorough and follow up like crazy.
Starting point is 00:47:15 And they do say that they get like this scoring on reviews and everything. But they, I've never seen somebody so aggressive for you to leave a review for them without being compensated for it somehow So I'm really interested in the way they pay because they don't pay commissions. They do they do get a discount to mention them on our show No, I swear I did a little side hustle Like We get a free bed and he can't even
Starting point is 00:47:46 fuck get our name right. That would be the worst commercial ever. Do you guys, do you guys get along with that was fast? Get along with it for a shop or are you the guy that picks out the, well, we've had a, so Katrina and I in the seven years we've been together have been in more ruffling conversations this last, you know, 60 days than probably ever. She cares about pillows, right?
Starting point is 00:48:07 Yeah. And I think it's just a combination of everything, right? The amount of work that we do together and so on, which we have to communicate with that, the stress for her from moving away from her mom, like that's a big deal. She, you know, her mom, I didn't even think about it. She's right next door. She is.
Starting point is 00:48:23 And, you know, her mom, you know, lost her husband just two years, it has, it just barely had two years. So, there's a lot going on with that. I'm also telling her, burn everything, get everything. So, let go of all your stuff, we're getting all new stuff. So I know that was really challenging. So she's got a ton of stuff going on with her business and all the work. There is a lot of emotion connected to getting rid of old things.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Right. So I recognize all the way. There is a lot of emotion connected to getting rid of old things. Right. So I recognize all of that. And then we add in the fact that we are now also shopping for and putting the house together. But she's been incredible. She's been, you know, she's been very, like our master bedroom is like blue and gray or the colors, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So it's, she's, I think she's allowed me to kind of take the lead on a lot of that stuff like that. Although she has had very much so her say in whatever we get to, but I think she's allowed me to kind of take the lead on that, which is, which has been nice because doing a big cowboy star in the middle. No, I would never do that. But I would know how cool it would know. I definitely know she wouldn't let that. But yeah, no, so there's been a lot of that back and forth between her. I mean, I said something on the show the other day and she gave me shit for it. She was pissed off. Yeah, because I called her out on her stuff like that. Whatever, wherever she starts barking at me over that, I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:49:43 hey, easy, easy, okay? But come on, there's She starts barking at me over that and I'm like, well, hey, easy, easy, okay? But come on, there's, we each have our strengths. And maybe that one's just not your strength. I'm not saying that you'd have no strength. You seem to have good at that. Yeah, I'm not the problem is. Yeah. This is like, what are my strengths?
Starting point is 00:49:58 Let's list my strengths. And you're really, really fucked up. I've had this list in my backpack. I think the last day I was. I will pay back to you. You know, I love you. You know, you're the greatest, you're really fucking I had this list back pocket I will be back to you. I love you. You know you're the greatest. You're the best.
Starting point is 00:50:08 No, but it's been I like my day. We definitely have had probably the this has been in seven years one of the most challenging things that we've been to and we've been through a lot of stuff. I mean in with in both of our relate both of our families and stuff and in seven years. And this the dynamic of everything at this time. But I mean, one of the things that I love about here is every time that we have even moments like this in a relationship,
Starting point is 00:50:31 it will always come out stronger on their side because we always can look back and reflect like man, I would never wanna go through all that with anybody else. I can't imagine all those things hitting and being in any relationship I've ever been in before, any other woman that I've ever met, I can't imagine it would have crumbled.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You're right, or I would have just like, ah! How funny is that that movingness? It is, by the way, one of the most stressful things you'll ever do with a couple for couples is moving. It's the worst, man. How weird is that though, because it shouldn't be if you think about it, it's like we're just moving.
Starting point is 00:51:02 We're not breaking up, we're not. But it is, and I think it's because your whole, your home base is shook up, so you're in the state of anxiety, you're in the state of the front. Well, think about it, if you take, you love to go back all the time, talk about evolution and stuff, right? So go all the way back to like, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:16 what that meant wait, you know, thousands of years ago, like, oh, I'm moving your kids. That's good for it. You think about that? We're going all these things. Yeah, we have to leave, we're not, we don't have enough food. We're going all these things. We have to leave. We don't have enough food. Right, we might die on the way there.
Starting point is 00:51:27 You know what I'm saying? I finally felt safe and protected here. Oh, totally. So you gotta think there's gotta be these animal instincts inside of you that already naturally. Oh, that's interesting. Kind of go in that drive. And then you're digging up old stuff too.
Starting point is 00:51:41 So you're probably certainly going through all of that stuff. I mean, I come myself going through high school photos and old stuff like that. So old memories are coming around. Both parties are probably going through things like that. You're deciding if you want to let go of something that, you know, it's a value to you. It's just a stressful time.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Yeah, and then you're the laborious part of it. Like, you know, shit. How much of it, how awesome, well, how interesting is that though that many times couples have struggles. It has nothing to do with anything that the person did. It has everything to do with the fact that they're just both stressed. Yeah, it's like the emotional state.
Starting point is 00:52:12 And that is a big, that is a big thing to understand. What's amazing is when you find a partner that sees that and gets that to, you know, back to what. And that's what I mean by how we can come out, we always come out starrys because we always, or as you know, it's like, okay, we didn't do anything. I'm doing. can come out, oh, we always come out strong as, because we always were able to. Because you know, it's like, okay, we didn't do anything. I didn't do anything.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Yeah, all right. And it's like, damn, we checked this out. We had this happen and then that happened. And then we had to deal with that and this. And it's like, fuck, and we still love each other. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:52:37 Like there's this respect for the other person because they do see that. They do reckon we have that. But now maybe when you're in it, I'm human and we're frustrated with each other. But once everyone has their moment where they take some time and reflect a little bit, which her and I always do, yeah, usually if you can apply that practice of just like,
Starting point is 00:52:55 before you act and like, or react in a way, you just take some moments and breaths. Like usually, more times than not, you're not gonna just come out with something that's kind of very effective thing to kind of understand is to if you and your partner can both agree that when you're above a certain level of stress, regardless of where it's coming from,
Starting point is 00:53:18 but usually coming from outside sources, if you had above a certain level of stress that you decide, okay, we're not going to have this conversation. We're going to have different directions. That is a very, very effective example. So check this out. So this is something that we do, right? So this is a mutual thing that we've talked about many times.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Like, when we get to that point, if it ever gets that point where we just disagree, not only do we break, but then there's this unsaid pack that we both have disciplined ourselves to, okay, now when we break, when I go into thought by myself and you know process it, it is 100% trying to be in that person's shoes as much as I can, like, and be as empathetic as I possibly can, like, can I see where she's coming from in this situation? And that's what I'm meditating on is trying to get there, is trying my hardest to truly get there, where I think most people they break and they want to formulate the right exactly they try to strengthen their argument so that when
Starting point is 00:54:08 they come back again they have more points to make so they're right where it's like we've already figured out that we're not going to see eye on this now where I'm at is how can I be even more empathetic and understanding to her point of view and I I want to try. I want to try. And then the rule is you have to say something that you think I have a point on and I have to say something you're ever point on. What's crazy is that because we have, because that's kind of this unsaid rule that we both do and have done
Starting point is 00:54:36 since we've been together, when we come back, it's right away talking about that person's perspective. Like, you know, I know that this made you feel this way, I can tell and I'm sorry and it's always like that. So it's just a natural thing. And that's how I know that she's gone and done the same thing I did.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Because when you come back and it's not a defense statement first or questioning me more, you know, because that's the other thing. So guys formulate their argument, girls find more things to bring up. You know, that's what happens when they get together. And that's the typical thing. But when she does, you always do this. Remember that one time? Yeah, what are we arguing about? Right, right.
Starting point is 00:55:11 So when I know she comes to, when we get reunited and she comes to like, you know, I see that I did this and it made you feel this way. I'm sorry with an apology and understanding to probably how I feel. Then I know, I know that you went and meditated on the same thing that I did, which is the other person. Take care of yourself. And I've learned too, sometimes it takes even more time for her to process some of the things.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And so I'm like, oh yeah, they angry, they wanna get in back in and be like, let's resolve this, let you know, and I've learned the hard way through the process of like, okay, yeah, we did separate and all this but like She's still stewing through this like I can't like prod just yet like it is too early You have to both agree before you do something like that before that that comes up You have to both win your columns. Okay. Here's the strategy. This is what we're gonna do
Starting point is 00:55:59 And then we agree upon it beforehand and then when it comes up you you know you do that because it's an effective strategy Otherwise you get caught in the weeds and then it's your egos talking to each other Well, you can't ever forget that this person that you're fighting or you're talking to is your teammate right and together You're making a sense and together exactly and together and together you're trying to win the game the game of life That's it and fighting with your teammates will never be productive and And so if you really truly look at your partner as your life teammate, and that's how you view the relationship, then what an asshole.
Starting point is 00:56:30 I was slapping on the button, I had a good game. That's right. What an asshole you are. That's every time you have to continue continually to be an antagonist and causing drama and issue because you're only killing the team. Have you guys ever seen that sculpture?
Starting point is 00:56:44 It was that burning man, maybe three or four years ago. One of the best sculptures I've ever seen. And it's two wire, it's like wire frame sculptures of two adults sitting back to back away from each other. Both angry, you can tell the both angry, but then inside the wire sculpture, they're hugging. No, inside the wire sculpture,
Starting point is 00:57:03 there's two sculptures of children who are reaching for each other on the inside. Very, very powerful. And it reminds me of when you fight with someone like that, how it's your egos are battling, but your inner, true and pure persons want to meet together and work together. And it's like, you know, it's such a powerful. I'll send it to, there it is, right there. Oh, yeah. Look at that. Oh, that's cool. Look how great that is right there. Yeah. I'll make sure to send that to Jackie so she can maybe put a link or whatever. Sure. That's a great image. Isn't that great? We got to go out there. I know we keep saying we're going to do. I don't even want to anymore. I wait because everybody else has lost its, yeah, a lure
Starting point is 00:57:38 for sure. Yeah, it doesn't feel like it's exciting anymore. We'll make our own burning man. Yeah. You know what? You know, you know this? You have a festival. Yeah, I've always. Mine pump festival. Oh, I've always thought this. Except it's at a. We'll make our own Burning Man. Yeah. You know what that you know this? You have a festival. Yeah, I've always. Mine pump festival. I've always thought this. Except it's at a hotel. I feel like the Cabo. That'd be Adam's speed for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:52 This is a trait that we all have in common. Last night I was talking to Enzo and his buddy, we were heading to the nighter game. We're talking about cars and different cars that, you know, that what I want, if I were to get another one and we're just talking about all this shit, right? And they're talking about the Ford Raptor, which is a badass trucker now.
Starting point is 00:58:06 The fucking everybody has it. Everyone on Instagram has one. And then I'm like, you know, like that's just so the opposite of me, like just because everybody like- I started to dislike you. I know, and we all have this in common. It's like something I wanted.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Like I might have wanted it, but now I don't want it because everybody else wants it. No, that's why I don't like Teslas. You know Teslas, if you go anywhere else in the country, you don't see a billion of them like you do here in the Bay Area. So they're cool, but here in the Bay Area, I see Tes, I'm not exaggerating.
Starting point is 00:58:30 So if you live anywhere outside of California or whatever, you probably don't see a whole lot of them. Here in San Jose area, I see five a day. At least, well, that's why there's some logic behind that though, right? Sure. You get all the charging stations are in California. I know that.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So it's originated here, but yeah. I know. No, I went through that process when I was looking for a classic car. Like, when I was like, I'm like, I want to get a hot rod. And I was like looking at a lot of Mustangs. And I loved Mustangs growing up and stuff. And, and I just like, I came across this truck and it was like, the little tough look in real mean.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And like, I've never seen one. It was this GMC, you know, had big old bullets on the front real aggressive and like, I've never seen it. I was like, okay, I'm getting that, you know, like everybody has a Mustang. Right. Like nobody has that.
Starting point is 00:59:16 And like I still, to this day, like occasionally I'll see some, you know, GMC pick up that year, like somewhere, but it's like, it's rusted, it's all in some music. Do you guys ever unpack that and figure out where that comes from? Oh, I know where it comes from. You do?
Starting point is 00:59:30 Yeah, 100%. I don't like to be, I don't like to be, feel like I'm being coarsed or forced into doing something. So when everybody does something, what some majority is doing. Yeah, and then I feel like, I don't like to be a sheep. Yeah, I'd rather be a sheep dog.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I like that, so good to see you. Just to make a Yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I like that as a good thing. Yeah. Just to make a teacher with them. Yeah. I'm on a roll. foods to help give your health a performance the added edge try to identify totally risk free for 60 days by going to organify dot com that's a large and i f i dot com and use a coupon code mine pump for twenty percent off at checkout
Starting point is 01:00:16 first question is from or work q what scientifically is the pump what can one do to get the best one in their workout? And if you could keep one forever, would you? Well, obviously. Yes, obviously. You know, let me tell you. The pump is, it's pretty funny, right? The pump is calming.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Dude, if I get a full, good pump in my whole body, I'd look like a completely different person. Like, I'm like, I look like a game 20 pounds a muscle. I didn't put this together until I started competing because competing then forced me to track calories and macros and push water volume like things that I never did before. And something that I put together early on was,
Starting point is 01:00:59 man, if I have a decent amount of carbs in me and I water load while I'm lifting, and I'm training high-perture fee. Bro, I look like a different human being. Like a bunch of balloons. I wouldn't take pictures of myself on Instagram because if people see this, they're gonna think I'm a totally different person
Starting point is 01:01:18 when they meet me or what. That's what people need me. I literally knew nothing of this either. I can totally identify with this question because I definitely trained high-perturface style, but I was never like, I didn't realize that looking in the mirror, I'm getting bigger or anything that never even crossed my mind.
Starting point is 01:01:39 Oh really? Oh yeah, Justin now, he's going bodybuilder mode, bro, this contest. I see him, that's why I told Inzo to stop videoing me because he's stealing all my moves. I see him all those things. Bro, your moves. He's doing my moves.
Starting point is 01:01:50 I'm not. He's doing all the curls. I see him. Bro, this is the natural thing. I fucking see him. Start doing that shit when you're training like this. Bro, we all created programs together. He knows the moves.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Yeah. I'm listening to you guys exhaustively. You know, talk about this stuff. Ad nod to you. I've picked it. I've definitely picked up that I know that there's no exercises. I'm doing inside the gym People why what the fuck man I bought your mask program. Tell me the secret So here you know, here's a deal the the scientific term for the pump is transient Circle Plasma hypertrophy. So sarcoplasm, it represents all of the non-muscle fiber, structures and fluids and things in your muscle,
Starting point is 01:02:34 that are not muscle fibers, which is mostly fluid. Yeah, so blood and water is what's making the pump happen. Yeah, blood, water, glycogen, capillaries, all these other things that and bringing in that fluid when you're getting the pump is why it's transient because it comes in and then it stays there for a little while and then it goes away. What ends up happening when you're, why you get the pump is blood obviously rushes into the muscle to improve performance and to accelerate recovery, but it more rushes in faster than can come out.
Starting point is 01:03:07 And so you get this build up of fluid, that swells your muscle and it makes you feel emotional. What's interesting about that is an athlete, I always looked at it as a negative thing you know that would happen. That's a great point. So I would, yeah, I would get to a point where I feel like,
Starting point is 01:03:21 I get this, like especially with my grip, you know, I'm trying to grip something and it's like, oh no, I can't grip anymore, fuck my arms like huge and stiff and what the hell's going on. Such a great point because in sports, if you get super pumped, you're fucked. Like if I'm running, if I'm sprinting
Starting point is 01:03:36 and playing football or whatever, and my quads get super, super pumped, I might have limited mobility, limited range of motion. It's not something I necessarily want. I actually had, I'll never forget this, it's only happened to me once, but I had a motocross racer hire me as a trainer, and one of the things you wanted was,
Starting point is 01:03:54 can you train me so that my forums won't get so damn pumped? I don't think I've trained a motocross. That's really? Yeah, I'm done. Yeah, one time, be cool. One time, and he told me. I had a pro surfer one time, it was fun. But he told me, like, you know know the problem is was forums get so pumped when he's racing
Starting point is 01:04:09 That it would fuck with his grip and I experience in in jujitsu as well like so it's a good point But here's a deal the pump itself Well, let's we'll get into whether or not that actually helps promote muscle growth a little bit later Well, don't you believe that it's volumizing the muscle cells, right? You have the fibers. It's volumizing them so more nutrients, more water, more stuff can pass through. And the theory is that that's going to adapt and expand and get bigger, right? Yeah, so I purchase.
Starting point is 01:04:37 That's what that stands for. That's what a feature does for growth. Yeah, so before. But this is also starting to replicate it. No problem. But this is also what I see, what I think I see when I look at a lot of men's physique athletes that I see that we're continually come back to the stage and look the same.
Starting point is 01:04:52 Because they constantly get pumped up and then back down and it pumped up and because they're not progressively adding strength, I don't think that they're building that much more muscle fibers. They're just expanding them and then they're then constructing, expanding, constructing and you get this kind of similar look because they're building that much more muscle fibers, they're just expanding them, and then they're then constructing, expanding, constructing. And you get this kind of similar look
Starting point is 01:05:08 because they're not building strength. So here's staying in hypertrophy too long. So the state of health that you're currently in that helps promote a good pump is probably a state of health that also helps promote more muscle building. So what I mean by that is, if you're depleted, if you're dehydrated, if you're not well fed,
Starting point is 01:05:27 if you're tired, if you don't have good blood flow, you're not gonna get a good pump. Also, that also means, independent of the pump itself, the fact that you're dehydrated, not well fed, don't get good sleep, don't have good blood flow, also is probably getting inhibit muscle growth. So I think the reason why the pump has been so connected to muscle growth mainly is because
Starting point is 01:05:47 when you get good pumps, that's a sign that everything's working well. Same thing with overtraining. One of the first signs of overtraining is you stop getting a good pump. I think it's mostly the mental gain that gets played because you look at yourself in the mirror. It's the same game that the scale plays with people. People connect that with fat loss because they see the pound on the scale going, but it could be completely wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:08 Right. So would you consider occlusion training like an extreme version of the pump or? So it's interesting with occlusion training because they're not quite sure how it works, but one of the main theories is that the buildup of waste in the muscle, because when you're burning energy, waste is produced. Not unlike your car, like your car burns gas and exhaust comes out.
Starting point is 01:06:34 When you're burning fuel through exercise, waste gets created and your body has a very intricate complex system that eliminates this waste so that you can keep moving. If the waste accumulates, it burns, it hurts, and you start to lose performance. But that waste accumulation also may be signaling the body, hey, we're doing more work than maybe actually is happening, like with occlusion. You use such light, why do 10 pound dumbbells
Starting point is 01:06:58 when I do occlusion curls? But the waste buildup is so much that it burns and by the third set, I could barely do 10 reps with them. So it's really the feedback of what that's providing. Yeah, and I think it's telling the body, hey, he's using more weight, but I'm getting less muscle damages than I'm using a lot of weight, but I'm still stimulating muscle growth
Starting point is 01:07:13 as if I were using heavy weight. But the pump itself, again, I think it signals that you're in this great state of health, and so you get this great pump, and so then you build muscle and you think it's the pump. It's probably, some of it's probably the pump, but most of it's probably that your health is really good. Now, does the pump itself cause muscle growth?
Starting point is 01:07:30 This is a little bit of a debate, but a lot of exercise scientists say that swelling effect of the muscle sends a signal to the body to build as well. And so the pump itself may also be something that builds muscle, which is why we have all these supplements that surround pleasant. That being said, but even if that's true, right? If that's the prevailing theory, it will
Starting point is 01:07:54 get adapted to that. And so you'll see minimal gains for that if you're continuing. And that's the, I think for the general listener, I think that's the real takeaway is that there is a lot of value in training for the pump. There's a lot of value in that listener, I think that's the real takeaway is that there is a lot of value in training for the pump There's a lot of value in that and I think you should and I think it should be a phase in your training as I do Strength training. Absolutely, and that's a good point because like you have strength athletes like power lifters who Most of the time don't get a pump most of the time they're not getting pumped up because they're doing Sets of you know singles and doubles and triples and rests long periods in between. The sore of their body looks different.
Starting point is 01:08:28 But do power lifters build a lot of muscle? Fuck yeah, power lifters build a shit done a muscle. Maybe not quite as much as bodybuilders, but pretty damn close. And that's probably why they get such a dense look to their body because they're not working on increasing their body's capacity to get a pump. Like a body builder can really inflate their bodies. Power lifters, and strength athletes, I don't think they have that capacity for the pump, but they build a lot of muscle fiber.
Starting point is 01:08:52 So when you have a guy like Ben Pollock, who's, he's also on our YouTube channel, which is a mind pump TV, right? Ben Pollock, power lifter who's now going into bodybuilding, but he has that hard, like a hybrid. Gran it looked to his body, but the dude's been training,
Starting point is 01:09:05 not like a bodybuilder for most of the time. He's been training like a, like now, like training recently as a bodybuilder. Yeah, just fascinating to watch his body change. But there's a lot of supplements surrounding this because if you can give someone something that gives them a better pump when they work out, they're gonna buy it, I'm gonna buy a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Which is unfortunate because the benefits is good, getting it through the workload. Yeah, yeah. That's where the real benefits of that you're seeing from the body is not because of this artificial pump as much as it is the, what you're doing. For these are like the NOX NO2 explode, those types of supplements.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Yeah, now here's the thing though, studies will show in some cases that increasing nitric oxide does improve performance, not for strength, necessarily, but more for more like endurance type stuff. But we still have improvement that taking something in a supplement will actually do increase that in the body. Well, there is one thing,
Starting point is 01:09:57 beetroot powder or beets contain natural nitrates that increase nitric oxide. Of course, it's something natural. It increases nitric oxide, and it's actually been shown in studies to improve time to exhaustion with cyclists. So I don't know how this necessarily applies to strength, but for stamina and endurance, beat root powder has actually shown to do that.
Starting point is 01:10:18 Now on the flip side, will you get a better pump from it? Maybe nitric oxide dilates blood vessels, opens them up, and you may get a better pump. And as I'm saying this, I'm now remembering the messages I've gotten from people who've drink, I've taken the organified red juice. Don't they have beets involved in that form? That's the main ingredient. The main ingredient is beetroot powder. So that's why it's red. And so I've actually gotten a lot of people telling me, oh man, I take the beat, the organ if I red juice and I get these crazy pumps. And you know, it's got to be the beat
Starting point is 01:10:49 root because what else is in there, right? Rodeola, that's more going to give you energy. Right. Yeah, there's some health stuff in there, but nothing really boosting nitric oxide. Beat root powder, if you had to compare all of them, citrilline, the amino acid citrilline and beat root powder are the killers when it comes to increasing nitric oxide which theoretically should give you a better pump and I could see some applications like I could see yeah like here's some applications as a trainer here's one for me when I was a kid working out the last place that I could really connect to with my workouts in terms of feeling was my back. That was the last part of my body where I could get a pump of my shoulders, my biceps, my triceps, my chest, my quads, you know, hands, calves.
Starting point is 01:11:37 I could get all that pumped. My back was always... I was the same way. It was a little elusive. Yeah. Well, I think, you know, what I found out later, what I didn't know then, was the importance of the mechanics and that when I was doing these back exercises, even though I thought I had good form because I was keeping my elbows in the same plane as somebody who was showing me, I wasn't connecting correctly to my back and I was pulling with my arms and my shoulders more than anything else. And so I think once I made that connection, how long did it take you to remember how long it took
Starting point is 01:12:07 before I was getting a back pump? Yeah, I was in my 20s. You know, I remember training back a lot and never really, I always feeling my biceps super pumped from it, but never feeling my back pumped. You know, maybe I could even get my back sore, but I never got that pumped. That has to be common, right?
Starting point is 01:12:24 It is very common. Because it's, I mean, it's your back and your backside and your posterior chain is very hard to activate for almost everybody because, I mean, you used, everything that's in front of you, you're visually stimulated by, you're seeing it, it's easier to connect to that. You know, like, you have to connect.
Starting point is 01:12:41 It's hard, logically to think. It's hard to feel the back work first off If you don't have a big if you don't have big back muscles and let's be frank if you're new into working out You don't have big lats to really feel and squeeze right that's number one number two You can't see what they're doing like you're saying Justin and number three when we pull we don't we don't really understand Pull with lats and rhomb, we understand pull with our arms. So those are the muscles we rely upon quite a bit, especially the lats.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Like, I actually could get a mid back pump before I could get a lap pump. Lap pump was like so elusive, right? And the way I finally got one was I did pull overs. Yeah, I did a pre-exhaust superset. I did pull overs, and then I went straight to pull downs. And I remember, I'll never forget, I must have been maybe 16 or 17.
Starting point is 01:13:26 So this is after at least two or three years of consistent working out. And I remember sitting there on the bench and going, oh shit, I could feel my, now here's the benefit of getting a pump. Now that you have a pump, you have feedback. I can feel the muscle. Yeah, that you're trying to work.
Starting point is 01:13:41 So the rest of the workout. It's like solidified a pathway, right? Totally. So the rest of the workout, every back exercise I did, I was able to work my lats for the first time ever and figure that out. So I could see a huge benefit in that regard, in terms of being able to feel what's going on,
Starting point is 01:13:56 getting that feedback and be like, oh, okay. Right. I think it was just as a nice carryover. It's something that I think should be in there. Saying the pump is one thing, but it's really all it is is training in that hypertrophy phase. You're going to get that if you're working the muscle correctly and you're doing 15 to 20 reps, you're going to get a pump. You know, two two by second third set for sure, you're going to get if you're firing it correctly.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Now, if it's not working, you might not, which is that's a great indicator that's that you're not working it correctly. Did you do when you would go on stage, would you do things to increase or improve your ability to get a pump so that when you could pump up to go on stage, you'd look, I'm sure bodybuilders do that, right? Oh, yeah, we do a big deal. It triggers sessions, that's the irony, right? I mean, they don't call them trigger sessions, right?
Starting point is 01:14:36 But I mean, that's what everybody is doing. Everybody's doing triggers, I mean, everyone carries their, oh, not everyone. Most every athlete would carry a bag and you've got a couple bands inside there. And especially areas that, like for me, so when I got up on stage,
Starting point is 01:14:52 I have a really dominant, dominant back in comparison to a lot of my peers. And so that wasn't a focal point for me. So my shoulders, I would really pump up in my chest. Also my arms, I would leave alone because I already have naturally big arms, even though that's not what people say on YouTube lately. You're never gonna win that flat part, dude.
Starting point is 01:15:13 So I wouldn't, I would pump up certain muscles that I want to display bigger, and then I would leave the other ones flat for whatever. Interesting. What about dietary, dude? Because I've read articles on how bodybuilders will, some of them will drink a little alcohol because that's got a little bit of a dilating effect on their veins. So some of them will take the...
Starting point is 01:15:32 I didn't really, you know, there wasn't a lot of things that I bought into as far as the, and there's probably some truth to some of these techniques that people have. I think there's such an individual variance to every single person and athlete that, I mean, even though I did six shows, I actually prepped for seven, I dropped out for one because of the flu the last week. I still feel like I was learning a lot, you know, about my body. And so there's certain,
Starting point is 01:15:56 there was like a process like for me, like a priorities of where I would go, like adding some sort of an alcohol drink or doing something stupid like that to me, was just like, I was still like, more likely to throw you off. Right, exactly. We more likely throw off the other things that I knew were bigger rocks, which is what I see a lot of. I see a lot of people do this. And of course, competing is an exaggeration of what everybody else does, but this is what we do. We throw the whole kitchen sink at the body at once because, oh, I heard this is good, I heard intermittent fasting is good,
Starting point is 01:16:25 I heard this is great, I said, take this, and it's like, more and more is better. Right, and it's like, no, it's like, keep it really simple, add things that are really, really easy that you can be consistent with first, prove to yourself, you can be consistent with that variable so you can actually measure it and be objective yourself right and go like, okay, I noticed that.
Starting point is 01:16:45 I feel these ways. And then, then, and you can also, yeah, tease out that way. Like, things that probably aren't a good fit for you. Yeah, otherwise, yeah, who knows? So, I mean, there's a lot, I mean, there was, I used to see guys slamming skittles in the back. Trying to get that sugar in the heart. Yeah, drinking sugar and everything like that.
Starting point is 01:17:02 And my theory was this, like, the real hard work was done in all the time heading into that. If I didn't bring the dopest, leanest, shredded, most cement. It's almost like they're cramming. Yeah, you're trying to make up for air-bushing shadows. You know, back in the 90s,
Starting point is 01:17:20 now bodybuilders today, you'll use synthol, which is this oil that you inject in your muscles and make them look better. And from what I've heard, most pro bodybuilders today will use synthol, which is this oil that you inject in your muscles and make them look better. And from what I've heard, most pro bodybuilders use it to a small degree. The stupid ones use a lot and you can tell. But in the 90s, there were only a couple guys that used synthol, and it wasn't very well known.
Starting point is 01:17:37 But what they did use was this anabolic steroid called, and I hope I'm pronouncing it right, a syceline I think it's called, but it was a steroid that was very ineffective at building muscle, I remember I read this whole article on it where if you used it, it wasn't a big muscle builder, but it had this nasty side effect of swelling the injection site. So if you inject it in your bicep,
Starting point is 01:17:56 you'd get a swollen bicep. So I was reading these articles, yeah, I'm gonna give myself a beasting. Dude, where body builders would backstage and would inject themselves with like 50 to 100 shots throughout their body where their trainer or the coach is trying to pull up weak body parts. And then they'd hit the stage looking super.
Starting point is 01:18:13 So far, it's crazy. Yeah, insane. But yeah, as far as getting a pump and, you know, good diet, carbs, lots of water, and then secondary supplements, beat juice or beat root powder like Organifies Red Juice juice try it out and see if it works for you Next question is from Sam a. J. Hanna Thoughts on intuitive resistance training and its benefits or drawbacks versus tracking and following specific workout regimens
Starting point is 01:18:39 Good question. It is a good question We talk a lot about intuitive nutrition and how that's the ideal good question. It is a good question. We talk a lot about intuitive nutrition and how that's the ideal. Well, again, this is only going to apply to people that are pretty advanced. Which one's harder? Which one do you think is harder, intuitive nutrition or intuitive training? Intuition. Yeah. You think so? Yeah. For you guys are for other people. I think period. Really? Oh, yeah. I think there's. Well, because it's such an ingrained part of our life. Like, we can choose the kind of train, you have to eat. Well, yeah, and not only that, but everybody either should or should be working
Starting point is 01:19:08 towards squatting. Not everybody should be eating the same food. Sure, yeah, that's true. So there's so many more variables with nutrition. Yeah, yeah, training. Yeah, we're just just, I agree, I agree. You know what's funny for me?
Starting point is 01:19:20 It's actually harder to intuitive train than it is to intuitive eat. For me personally, which is the opposite of what. Yeah, because training to me when I go into workout, although I do a lot of intuitive training, as I get into the workout itself, sometimes I get caught up in the workout. So like you can get caught up in what I-
Starting point is 01:19:37 You can trick yourself pretty easily as far as like, well, you know, maybe I really need to just ramp it up today. Yes. Yeah, I struggle with that a little bit. Yeah, like I could push it too hard or I'll get stuck and I'll be like, well, I know I'm supposed to do 10 reps, but I feel strong. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I want to add weight and go in the low, because I love doing that. Maybe it's just my ego. Maybe my ego is more challenged with training than it is with, with eating. Well, you know, because I've been a heavy tracker of both, I still, so my training wheels is still the nutrition side, like I still will revert back to fat secret
Starting point is 01:20:11 in tracking my food, where training I've tracked enough to know like how my body feels like where I'm pushing it. And I know when I'm like, I know when I'm gonna overreach, just like I did the other day with my back and like, and I know like, oh, that was a little too much and I know how to pull it back. Where that's really easy for me because I've done the tracking and paying attention to my volume and progressing that over week over week
Starting point is 01:20:32 where nutrition, you know, here I, like, one of the things that has actually been really a struggle for me, what is realizing like how significantly slower my metabolism is. I mean, I talk on the show a time of being the guy who ate 5,000 calories. I'm definitely not that guy anymore. You know, like I am the amount of calories my body is burning.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Which, a duh, I mean I'm 175 pounds of lean body mass. That was over 200 pounds of lean mass. When I was, so that's 25 to 30 pounds of muscle. Like, I mean, that's the thing. Of course I'm not gonna burn it. Yeah, of course I'm not gonna burn it. But what am I an idiot? Or what, you know, and then you add in that I know my mobility
Starting point is 01:21:06 and movement is way down because of the Achilles and things like that. So, you know, I'm having to be in 2000, Calorie range. Like, that's crazy for me. That 3,300, 500, I would be dropping pounds every day where it's not the same. So, that's something that variable kind of always changes. But how I should train my body remains pretty consistent
Starting point is 01:21:26 aside from addressing the balances or things that I've got. Yeah, and thinking about it for me too, like I know that nutrition is a lot more challenging because like just even growing up and going through, I was always challenging my body. I was very in tune with my body and like, you know, what applied on the field, like when I would train this happened,
Starting point is 01:21:46 and this happened, I paid attention to that is what I'm trying to say, versus eating, I was pretty much not paying attention, you know, and then it's only as of recently in the last few years, like I've really tried to like work on that, and like, oh shit, there's a weakness of mine, like I know, but I've never really took my body
Starting point is 01:22:04 through those challenges with nutrition. And so I'm like, I gotta catch you up to do without to get to a new, an intuitive type of a schedule. You know what I, what really fascinates me about intuitive training is, remember we were talking at Paul check and he says he has this system where he has his athletes every morning wake up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:24 Take their pulse and then he said, if they're outside of this range, I can guarantee you with 80% accuracy. HRV before HRV. Yeah, he, oh, I mean, the guy's brilliant. He was doing this shit, by the way, before anybody else, nobody else was really talking about it. I hate to say it was probably even more accurate than any of these devices out there. I would agree.
Starting point is 01:22:41 And Mike Selemi said that it was a life changer for him. Mike Selemi, who is was a life changer for him. Mike Selemi who is he still lives by that Yep, and and Selemi is Easily one of the highest performing like in tune athletes have ever met my entire life, right? So super high high performing super super strong half of all of our size and shits on all of our lives Yeah, yeah ridiculous Yeah, and in all natural all natural first-hole life. Yeah. The dudes are freak. And he says it was a game changer. And the part that blew me away about it was Mike Sulemi had been working out forever.
Starting point is 01:23:12 And he's not, I go in the gym and I'm a meadhead. He's a very smart guy. One of the most knowledgeable people I know when it comes to training. And he was saying how much he benefited from this feedback system. So his intuitive, you know, him understanding his body intuitively wasn't as accurate as him being able to measure this and adding that into his training.
Starting point is 01:23:33 So maybe it's just gonna take him to the next level because I think once he tracks that then he starts to identify how he feels in a particular time. I really don't think anybody I've ever trained has any business intuitive training. I really don't, like. No.
Starting point is 01:23:47 No, that looks like that looks like guys go to the gym and do curls and, yeah. You know, all day and bench press. Chest, yeah. Chest and like high five. Yeah, I mean, and here's the thing. This is where, where I'm gonna,
Starting point is 01:23:58 I'm gonna backped a little bit from that statement I just said. Here's where I can see this. If you're somebody who does not want to progress anymore, you've reached the aesthetics, the performance level, the mobility level, you love where you're at and you just want to maintain, then absolutely, I think you're in a great place
Starting point is 01:24:18 to intuitive train and go in there and do what feels like fun and feels good to the body every single time you want to work out. That's somebody who is not trying to progress and change. If you're somebody who's trying to change the body somehow, whether it be build muscle or burn body fat and you're trying to make change, I think that person should be for sure tracking and following something that's a region because you have no idea how much you're going to continue to learn.
Starting point is 01:24:43 You're being changeables in order to change. you have no idea how much you're gonna continue to learn because- Yeah, and by following a program that's already laid out, it allows you to go, okay, that's of one variable, I don't have to question because it's consistent and I can go back on it and I can look like, oh, I did this, this, and this, like, okay, wow, when I'm doing this much chest work throughout the week, look at how much my strength goes up, look at what it looks like,
Starting point is 01:25:03 I can see all these other variables, whereas if you're trying to intuitively train and you're not, you're like, oh man, my chest looks great. Is that new exercise it did? Well, maybe it's because you actually increased a thousand pounds of volume that week in chest and didn't realize it because you're not following something structured. And so that's why I think that's really important. We have a few, we, it takes a long time to get to this point, right? After you've been training for a long time,
Starting point is 01:25:29 following well-written programs, understanding how your body reacts and feels and what particular pains and aches mean for you and what your recovery feels like for you. When you can start to identify like, okay, I know what these signals mean. It means that my recovery needs a little bit of work. Or I know what this means. It means my mobility in this direction needs a little bit
Starting point is 01:25:50 of health, but before you can get there, you gotta follow something that's well written. So we have a lot of people in our forum, and it was, by the way, this is something we've advocated from day one, is you follow one of our programs, like one of our maps programs, follow it the way we wrote it out.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Cause here's a deal with maps. Maps isn't a, it is a specific workout program, but more than that, it's a philosophy and understanding of how you train your body. And then within that philosophy, we've designed specific workouts that you follow. And what we encourage people to do is to get the program and see and understand
Starting point is 01:26:25 what the philosophy is for athletic training or for bodybuilding. Follow one time through. Follow exactly as it's laid out, pay attention to how you feel, and then within that philosophy, the next iteration around, you can now modify it and say, okay, I feel like I needed more in this area or I feel like this exercise didn't serve me well or I think I need to stay't serve me well, or I think I need to stay in phase one for four weeks instead of three weeks, and stay in phase three for two weeks instead of three weeks, or whatever. We have a lot of people in our forum
Starting point is 01:26:53 that have been following the programs now for two years that tend to do that, and that's a good place to start. It's just like tracking your food, like you start with something that's laid out for you, pay attention to your body, follow it, listen to what's going on, listen to the signal, see how you get it. You have direction. And then you slowly start to change it and make it intuitive.
Starting point is 01:27:13 To the point where, I've been working out for, can I intuitive your training? Definitely. Better than most people, I've been working out for, you know, how long, 20, 25 years, I've been working out consistently. So I think I can go into a gym and kind of know what to do. But there's also some structure to it. I know what order I tend to work out in. I know how to, you know, what movements I need to focus on.
Starting point is 01:27:32 Right, right. You know, there's certain exercises that you would always start in or never start in. Yeah, so there's stuff like that, I think, that we're all consistent with. Next question is from Swole Nick. How can risk pain be remedied? Holding the kettlebell for goblet squats, pushups,
Starting point is 01:27:48 or any type of plank seems to exacerbate it, and I don't want to wear wrist straps. It's that fully, is this extended? This is extended, right? The flex extended. It's the fully extended wrist position that many times people will have wrist pain in. Dude, this is sure.
Starting point is 01:28:07 This was one of the most mind blowing simple little things that Brink showed us. And that's included in Maps Prime Pro. And I wish I had these tools because as a trainer in the Silicon Valley, I must have had 100 plus clients like this. That had so many. This was very, very common. And I had all these things that I would do from and nothing was as impactful as what Brink
Starting point is 01:28:33 had taught us with Maps Prime Pro. And what that is is people have just lost that connection and range of motion in their wrist. And so when you do exercises that put strain on that, it hurts. And it's just because you just put all your weight on it. Right. You know, without having the strength there to support and stabilize it.
Starting point is 01:28:50 And so these are basically drills to strengthen and that connection and to be able to actually provide stability again. So yeah, you have to actually like go to the exercises to kind of rebuild that process. It's funny because like some of these drills are really silly looking. Like from from the outside, like, I mean, it felt like I was doing the whole, like, miming I'm touching boobies. Right?
Starting point is 01:29:12 That's what it felt like. But it's super impactful when you really pay attention to the intent of what you're doing and then your fingers, how quickly you get disconnected from your fingers. And I mean, it's tough. A lot of people don't wanna like go through it because it's just like, oh shit,
Starting point is 01:29:29 I gotta slow down, really focus. Yeah, when you look at your joints, your joints have muscles that surround the joints and move the joints, right? So if you look at your wrist, there's muscles that flex and extend the wrist and a little bit of rotation with the fingers. And then there's the joint itself
Starting point is 01:29:43 and there's end ranges of motion of the joint, and what supports a joint in end range of motion. If I took and stripped all the muscles off of my wrist, and I bent my wrist towards the end range of motion, what's preventing it from continuing to flex or extend are things that like ligaments, tendons or whatever, these support structures within the joints.
Starting point is 01:30:05 What happens when you lose connection to end ranges of motion is when you go into those end ranges of motion and you don't have good strength and good connection, now you're relying on the joint to hold you in that position. Here's a deal. I could stand with 600 pounds on my back, stand straight and stabilize myself. Could I do that and lock my knees and just try and relax in it, let my joint support it?
Starting point is 01:30:33 That would be nasty, right? That'd be very bad. So that's not really that different from what we're talking about. So a lot of your wrist pain is coming from the fact that in these positions, especially like a plank pushup position, in that extended position, you have no strength. So what's happening is you're wrist as supporting you
Starting point is 01:30:50 or the joint is supporting the whole time. So one of the best things you can do, this is very easy, is put yourself in that plank position, maybe without weight, so maybe not a full plank, maybe get on hands and knees, get into that plank position so that your hands are in that fully extended, your wrist are and that fully extended position, and then spread your fingers out and try as hard as you can to pull your fingers off the floor. They probably
Starting point is 01:31:13 won't move, but just connect to it and then reverse it and then try to push them into the floor. Don't move your hands. And then rotate. And just try to connect. It's like the combat stretch for your hands. And when I teach both those to people, I'm like, both these movements, I know seem so tedious and so stupid to do, but I cannot stress to you enough how much it impacts the rest of the kinetic chain. That's your connection to the real world. Your hands, right, your hands, right, your wrist right there,
Starting point is 01:31:41 and then your feet, like, that is your connection in the real world. If you start to lose that, it's going to affect everything else down the rest of the body. And so I know it seems so stupid and little to do those things, but it'll make the world a difference, especially when you're talking about a person like this that feels distressed.
Starting point is 01:31:56 You absolutely need it. Everybody needs it, but this person for sure needs it. I know, I remember when I was a kid, and I bench press all the time. That was a favorite exercise. And I would, I got this really bad habit of putting my wrist in this extended position with a thumbless grip. And I know why I did it.
Starting point is 01:32:12 I was watched, I watched pumping iron and Arnold. And there's pictures of Arnold benching that went, of course, whatever Arnold does is the right way to do it. So I would, I got this really bad habit of lifting with my wrist extended. And then as I got stronger, my wrist became the weak link, it became the limiting factor, started kind of inhibiting my ability to press more because my wrist started hurt. So then what did I do?
Starting point is 01:32:33 I bought wrist brace. You know, wrist brace is like power lifters would wear. Now I could bench more or whatever, never really fixing the problem. Well, years later as I got older, I started to realize what the problem was. And all I did was I put my thumb around the bar and I strained my wrist out and I couldn't go as heavy at first. They didn't have the strength in my wrist to have that stabilization. Today and it took me a while but now today that's how I bench and I'm far more stable and never have wrist problems now. So this is a strength issue. So what I would say is if you're
Starting point is 01:33:01 currently inflamed back out of those movements, allow the inflammation to subside. When you start to feel okay, put yourself in some of those positions, try to connect to them and get stronger in those positions, and it should prevent you from having more pain. Next question is from Andreas I am for work. I carry around a 20 pound tool bag slung over my shoulder. I'm trying to avoid injury inducing imbalances, so are there any other considerations aside from switching shoulders? That's the obvious one, right? Switch shoulders? That's probably, I mean, does he have another option? Really? What do you think about it? Well, exercises. I mean, like about, I was gonna say around your waist. Yeah, no, I would say, so
Starting point is 01:33:41 definitely switch shoulders, but a good rule of thumb is if you're doing something if you're doing a lot of something Train the opposite to offset it. So when you have a heavy tool bag over your shoulder The muscles that are trying to support you are the ones that shrug so like your Elevator scapulae your traps like all those muscles that pull up pull your shoulder up because those are muscles that that they tense to support you so I would do like downward scapula shrugs. It's a very complicated term, right? It's basically grab onto a lap bar, keep your arms totally straight and then focus on pulling your shoulders down. So you're doing the opposite movement. What's that? What's that move just in that? That you do where you you just you isolate each
Starting point is 01:34:27 Scatula and you retract and you make circles. Yeah, oh, oh, Scatula circles because that's what it's called. I mean if you have the the ability and the strength to do that That would be incredible. I have it on our YouTube. Don't we have all that stuff on our You do we also have it in prime pro, but yeah, I mean even just doing scapula circles hanging You know off of a bar is really helpful as well. So, I mean, I love doing that just to counteract a lot of stress I tend to build up there. A good general help for all things shoulder.
Starting point is 01:34:57 This is a nice, it's a general thing because it kind of helps most issues. What's it called with the stick. Shoulder dislocate. Yeah. It's a very basic movement, and it's kind of a general shoulder health, you know, it doesn't help everything, but most common shoulder problems, I would say if you practice
Starting point is 01:35:18 shoulder dislocates with good tension, you're probably going to be good. Well, I think, you know, if I have a client like this, like that, that's just the way I'm going to look at this, Like of course, you know, throw it over each shoulder. Like we said, back and forth, you know, keep trying to be even about how much you carry on one side, right, to the other. But really, that client, for me, I'm thinking like, they need to have strong mobile shoulders.
Starting point is 01:35:39 So they're workout, you know, that's needed to pattern that constantly with rotational losing. Right, this is what we really, this is what we really used to get paid for, right? This person could have a normal goal like anyone else, I want to build muscle, I want to burn body fat, but then I also have this thing, okay? That's the value right there. Right, and that's the real value in the trainer, right?
Starting point is 01:35:56 It has the ability to go like, okay, cool. So we're gonna, everything else nutrition, we're gonna be dialed in, training the whole for this. We're gonna take a, yeah, and that takes now a higher priority over other things or exercises that we might do. So a priority for this person, like, I would, and this is how we structured all the maps program. So I would always, if I was a trainer, have a tool like Maps Prime and Prime Pro
Starting point is 01:36:16 in my back pocket for an example, just like this. So I'm like, okay, so I wanna have hyper, not hyper, but I wanna have very mobile shoulders and I wanna have very strong shoulders. And so, supported shoulders. So I'm going to pull from those exercises and I'm going to incorporate that into my training regimen for my client or for myself if this is me.
Starting point is 01:36:35 Yeah, basically, what you want to do is create yourself a ritual that you're like, just because you know that you're going to be doing this for work and it's your job. It's like, I feel like everybody, no matter what it is you do, especially if it's a labor intensive job, you have this sort of plan like going into it
Starting point is 01:36:53 and then how you're gonna like come home and sort of recuperate from it. And this is something I have helped like, a client of mine even had like a frozen shoulder so he went through a whole process of like, okay, what does my routine look like? What does my ritual look like when I get up in the morning and I get against the wall? And I'm going to do these very specific movements. It's, it's just like walking to you.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Like you have to look at it like every day, like this is my ritual. And this is going to help to kind of offset or at least keep you somewhat balanced. No, here's the thing. Most pain, a lot of pain, if not most pain, is not the result of injury, it's the result of poor recruitment patterns, this is kind of chronic pain. And it really comes from two things,
Starting point is 01:37:34 lack of activity and then repetitive activity. So it's this weird combination of lack of activity to balance things out and too much of the same types of activity. So it's either too much sitting. Too lot of sitting. Yeah, holding the tool bag, or this is a common one for women, by the way, with this guy complaining about,
Starting point is 01:37:52 or asking about is what women tend to feel because they carry a purse and they'll carry it over one shoulder. And so they'll start to get tightness in their neck and their shoulder and sometimes that causes headaches. There's imbalances speaking of women where women will hold their child on one hip, and they'll constantly throw one hip out and they'll start to develop teachers
Starting point is 01:38:08 that are ready on chalkboards. Yeah, so it's all of that. So what you want, and look, here's this is how we designed maps performance, for example, let's say athletic program, right? The reason why a big part of it is mobility is because athletes do repetitive motions all the time. That's what sports is.
Starting point is 01:38:26 When you do a sport, there are hallmark repetitive motions that you're going to be doing. And you're doing them a lot because you want to get really fucking good at them. Like you want to get so good at them that every time you swing a bat, you're maximizing your power and you're accurate. Or every time you're throwing something, you're throwing it in a way that's maximizing efficiency. And so you do these repetitive motions. Mobility is such a big, I mean, it's such a limiting factor because when you move in
Starting point is 01:38:50 one direction all the time or do something all the time, you get good at that, but at the expense of other things and it can cause a lot of problems. So mobility, I'll tell you something right now, in your workouts, especially if you do anything during your day that is repetitive, which is everybody. Right. Sitting beyond a computer. Everybody. Do the opposite movement and focus on make mobility a focus because that is a limiting
Starting point is 01:39:13 factor for everybody. I just look at mobility as like interpreting data. So for me, like building up a lot of like my workouts, like I'm working out really hard in a certain direction, but then when I get into mobility, it's like, okay, what am I actually doing to my body? Like it reveals all those things. You feel where your joint has restriction now, and you feel where like there's tension when there wasn't before and there's a looseness here, and so it just helps to kind of like pull all of your attention back into the joints and
Starting point is 01:39:43 make sure that it's aligned and things are moving and operating properly, so that way, I can go back into adding the stress, adding the load, adding all these things into my performance type gains, but I'm not losing abilities. Well, here's a good example. When you look at boxers, like really, really well-trained boxers, and you look at their bodies and how they're built, one of the most impressive things about boxers, like really, really well-trained boxers. And you look at their bodies and how they're built.
Starting point is 01:40:06 One of the most impressive things about boxers, I remember this as a kid when I would watch, like Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson, or especially Holyfield, Holyfield was like, this looks like a bodybuilder back then. Remember that guy who was like, so much sort of jacked. And when you'd watch him, and I remember,
Starting point is 01:40:20 you know, I look at him and I'd be like, fuck, he's so buff, so I was really into muscles. And their back muscles are so developed. Boxers have these incredibly developed back muscles. Now what the hell does a back muscles have to do? I remember thinking this as a kid, you're throwing a punch. You're throwing it in front of you.
Starting point is 01:40:34 Yeah, you're pushing with your chest and your shoulders and your triceps and what does the back have to do? Well, the back is preventing the guy. It's actually allowing him to throw his hand as fast and hard as he is because that's the support because it's the opposite. That's the opposite. A good boxer and good boxing trainers do lots of strength training, pulling, pulling, of course, lots of shoulders stability too, but to strengthen the muscles that pull back
Starting point is 01:41:00 because that tends to be the limiting factor with your speed and your power. I guess the rule of thumb here is, whatever you're doing a lot of, train the opposite when you go to the gym to offset that movement and not create those imbalances. Check this out. If you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download one of our guides for free.
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