Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 838: How to Build Side Butt, Why BCAAs are a Waste of Money, the Best Sleep Position & MORE

Episode Date: August 17, 2018

MAPS Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mindpumpmedia.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about why they believe BCAAs are a waste of money, what muscle bellies are and the role they play in aesthetics, the best position to sleep when you have mobility issues and if they suffer from road rage. Want to attract the opposite sex in the right way? How to build a side-ass. (3:30) What were some of the worst styles? Ones that will never die? Fashion and hair style talk with Mind Pump. (8:30) Is getting old Adam’s worst fear?? Don’t put him in a box! (20:15) Home Gyms vs. Big Box Gyms: The guys sound off on the pros/cons and what you should invest in. (27:24) The benefits of Thrive Market and highlighting their giving back program. (41:36) #Quah question #1 – Are BCAAs a waste of money? (47:10) #Quah question #2 – Can you explain what muscle bellies are and the role they play in aesthetics? (59:33) #Quah question #3 – What is the best position to sleep when you have mobility issues? (1:11:35) #Quah question #4 – Do any of you suffer from road rage? Do you have any great stories? (1:23:20) People Mentioned: Awkward Family Photos (@awkwardfamilyphotos)  Instagram Enzo Coglitore (@enzocog)  Instagram Paul Chek (@paul.chek)  Instagram Ronnie Coleman (@ronniecoleman8)  Instagram Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Joe Rogan (@joerogan)  Instagram/Twitter Related Links/Products Mentioned: Thrive Market One FREE month’s membership $20 off your first three purchases of $49 or more (That’s $60 off total!) Free shipping on orders of $49 or more Nike to Buy Converse For About $305 Million PRx **5% off your entire PRx Performance order PLUS a complimentary MAPS PRIME program ($129.00 value) when you use promo code: MINDPUMP** The Science of Saunas - Ben Greenfield Fitness Ep 178: FREE MARKETS, FINDING PURPOSE, AND FORGING FITNESS | SAL DI STEFANO Effects of thermal environment on sleep and circadian rhythm Get our newest program, MAPS Split, an expertly programmed and phased muscle building and sculpting program designed to get your body stage ready. This is an advanced program and is not recommended for beginners. Get it at www.mapssplit.com! Get MAPS Prime, MAPS Anywhere, MAPS Anabolic, MAPS Performance, MAPS Aesthetic, the Butt Builder Blueprint, the Sexy Athlete Mod AND KB4A (The MAPS Super Bundle) packaged together at a substantial DISCOUNT at www.mindpumpmedia.com.   You insure your car but do you insure YOU? If you don’t, and you are the primary breadwinner, you will likely leave your loved ones facing hardship and struggle if you die (harsh reality). Perhaps you think life insurance is expensive, but if you are fit and healthy, you can qualify for approved rates that are truly inexpensive and affordable. To find out if you qualify for the best rates in the industry, go get a quote at www.HealthIQ.com/mindpump Would you like to be coached by Sal, Adam & Justin? You can get 30 days of virtual coaching from them for FREE at www.mindpumpmedia.com. Get our program, MAPS HIIT, an expertly programmed and phased High Intensity Interval Training program designed to maximize fat burn and improve conditioning. Get it at www.mindpumpmedia.com! Make EVERY workout better with MAPS Prime, the only pre-workout you need… it is now available at mindpumpmedia.com Have Sal, Adam & Justin personally train you via video instruction on our YouTube channel, Mind Pump TV. Be sure to Subscribe for updates. Get your Kimera Koffee at www.kimerakoffee.com, code "mindpump" for 10% off! Get Organifi, certified organic greens, protein, probiotics, etc at www.organifi.com/mindpump Use the code “mindpump” for 20% off. Go to foursigmatic.com/mindpump and use the discount code “mindpump” for 15% off of your first order of health & energy boosting mushroom products. Add to the incredible brain enhancing effect of Kimera Koffee with www.brain.fm/mindpump 10 Free sessions! Music for the brain for incredible focus, sleep and naps! Also includes 20% if you purchase! Please subscribe, rate and review this show! Each week our favorite reviewers are announced on the show and sent Mind Pump T-shirts! Have questions for Mind Pump? Each Monday on Instagram (@mindpumpmedia) look for the QUAH post and input your question there. (Sal, Adam & Justin will answer as many questions as they can)

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pomp, for 43 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. We start off by talking about how to shape the glutes. Talking about the legs. By building sidebutt. We're trying to, yeah, improve everybody out there.

This is a new term that Adam came up with to explain how to get some types of glutes to look rounder. Every girl wants a heartbutt. You guys get the every guy wants a glute. I got your back. Then we talk about bad styles and styles that never die. They never die, my hair style. Then we talk about Adam's fear of aging. So wack. Never die, my hairstyle. Then we talk about Adam's fear of aging.

So wack. This guy's such bullshit. He wants to be a kid. I hope my form comes in my back. I'm going to want to. Justin talked about his new home gym. Now he did use PRX, who makes those phenomenal fold out squat racks.

They're so good. They take a very little space. We go into how that worked out for them in his home. We are sponsored by them, so if you go to PRXPerformance.com forward slash MindPump and you use the code MindPump, you'll get 5% off the total price and you'll get a free Maps Prime program with purchases of over $500. Then we got into a nice discussion of home gyms versus commercial gyms. And we also mentioned thrive markets

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of $49 or more, and free shipping, all of that, all of that. Then we get to the questions. The first question was, are branch chain amino acids a waste of money, or will they build you amazing biceps? Hmm, find out. Next question was, what are muscle bellies? We always talk about muscle bellies. Adam likes to talk about how muscle bellies are,

full and flat and all that stuff. The fuck is a muscle bellies? No, but my muscle bellies are hungry. That's right. The next question was, what is the best position to sleep in? Are there sleeping positions that are superior to all the others? The answer might surprise you. And the final question,

do we ever suffer from road rage and do we have any good or crazy stories? We don't tell you the craziest stories because we don't want to go to jail, but we do tell you the ones we think we can tell you in this episode. Also, this month, maps performance is half off.

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All month, go to MindPumpmedia.com, get that. So it's under $100 for the program. You get life access, by the way. Also we have bundles is where we combine multiple maps, programs for specific goals. You can find all of our bundles and the 50% off maps performance with the code green50 at mindpumpmedia.com. Turn me up before we go go. It's a wake me up wake me up. Yeah, but turn turn me off You go go oh you change it up purpose. Yes, hang in my eye. You're so low. Come on guy

Who would have get what he a new here? Who would have get the new guy in South C today? Hey, who would have guessed that George Michael's gay, huh? Nah. Actually, actually, for a while there, well, when he was with WAM, he could have said me, but that was the 80s, everybody looked like that. Yeah. It was the later on, what's that song you did faith?

Yeah. And the other one? God, have faith. He's like the stud. Remember that? He was like the man. In those videos. Oh yeah.

So many women cried when they found out he was funny because he was even doing dance moves where he was like, you know, how they do like the hump thing. Yeah. He was doing that to girls. Yeah. He was very misleading.

And he had the beard and the fucking guitar. Right. He was stud, you know. Yeah. Baby. Yeah. Did you guys get this? What am I calling? Did I send the picture that my uncle sent over to me right? It was stud, you know? Baby! Did you guys get this? What am I calling? Did I send the picture that my uncle sent over to me

of my stepfather, my sister and I, and all the family photo from, what's it called, from Old Mills? Oh, nice. I love those. The mustache and the permed hair. My stepdad. Oh, I think I did see that.

Yeah, yeah, I thought I sent it to you guys. You guys follow that awkward family photo Instagram handle? No, you showed me that one. Oh, it think I did see that. Yeah, yeah, I thought I sent it to you guys. You guys follow that awkward family photo Instagram handle? No, you showed me that one. Oh, it's the best. What's it called? I forgot about that. It's the awkward family photos, I think,

is what it's called. Oh, I gotta look, because you showed me that I died laughing. I'm like, I know my family has some of these. And that's why, so you're the one that showed me that. So I knew somebody had showed me those, that Instagram that is full of all these funny old like, old mills and what's the other one that they used to do

and is it old mills that used to be a car? Yeah, and the glamour shots too. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all those. We're the same, you have the cat like, in the background. Yeah, the transparent cat in the background. We're gonna drop down, you can totally tell, to drop down. How funnily's material. How funny is that though? down, you can totally tell. To drop down. How funnless material.

How funny is that though? Like how you can totally think something looks good. And then all you gotta do is look at the same picture in 15 years and be like, that looks terrible. Well, it's a make, it's what it is. How's that happen? It's because what happens is somebody else, somebody of influence, yeah, that or somebody of influence,

like, you know, co-signs it, says like, this is cool. You know what I'm saying? And then everybody thinks it's cool. And then 20 years goes by and they don't have that same person who said it was cool 20 years ago. No one knows who the fuck that person is anymore. And all they see it as is like, that looks stupid. Why would you do that?

That's how styles are, right? What was the style? Style is the same way. Like when something comes out and it's fashionable, it becomes fashionable really because somebody of great influence puts their stamp on us and says, this is fucking cool, I'm going to rock it. Then when everyone does it for... Yeah, that's why I'm debating the whole high-waisted pants thing that girls are doing now. Nobody likes that. They used to. I think the girls are lying that way too, the ones that

wear it like, oh, how cute I am. Well, be honest with your side. They're not to hide their muffins. I was gonna say, so yeah, yeah, yeah, I partially disagree with you. It's weird, it creates long asses. That's why they're lazy. That you, certain asses are good in it.

If you, if you have a good glute meat, so if you got a good wide ass, if you have the ass that you can see from the front, like if I'm looking at you, like some, you know, some girls have ass, but they only have back ass, they don't have side ass. And they don't have side asks. They don't know how to train the glue meet.

Those are the jigs that should have to be doing the rubber band. We should do a side ask. Side ask, not just bad. How to do the side ask? Hey, dude, there's, I mean, here's the thing, like you can absolutely shape the ass by training. Now, here's funny that you see everybody in the gym doing it now, everybody's got the banded knee walks

and all this stuff like that and whatever. But there is some value to doing some of those exercises or incorporating that because most people or most girls, most men and girls, like your glutamine just doesn't work anymore because we don't do anything where we rotate. Or we move the trans, yeah, transverse plan or lateral movements.

So we just don't use a lot of that part. It's responsible, you know, externally rotating the femur, and we just don't really do that anymore, not that often, and we don't build that muscle. But that muscle, when you build that part of the glute, it's like the upper side of the ass, and it gives you the solution of a more heart-shaped ass. Like you absolutely can shape that, man.

Yeah, well, ice skaters, you don't see anybody, ice skaters, great exercise for that. You know what I do see though, is a curtsy lunge. You're seeing a little bit more of that, and you get a little bit more of that. Bro, sumo deadlifts. Sumo deadlifts is a great reason. You know, it's funny though.

You're a girl and you deadlift, but you don't sumo deadlift because you're more comfortable conventional. You should sumo deadlift just to build the outside of your ass. Well, you have to also understand how to push the knees out as you're doing. Because some women will be like, I only feel it my inner thighs. Well, yeah, I mean, if you do, I mean, you have to deadlift correctly. You know what I'm saying?

So if you sumo deadlift, do it correctly. And if you do it correctly, you have to push your knees out or they'll cave in, right? What do you guys think are some of the worst styles of nobody misses bugleboy jeans those are great bro that that were like rolled up with in cuffed they're kind of coming back bro the battle boys will not bugle not the brand but that stone wash with the cuffed bottoms yeah like the stone like the white wash I missed it so I that's why you see me I I've been tight rolling my jeans I haven't tight rolled my jeans since I was like fucking wow look at that well look at that picture right there I remember it's the rock yes yes dude I will show you yeah there's people that are are rocking that stone washed you know tapered cuffed bottom again

that's definitely back in style I remember remember the ball again. That style goes regression from the tight pants everybody's been wearing. That goes that goes right in line with that same time when that was popular. Those those jeans, that's one of the high waisted jeans for the shorts for the girls were popular. Same thing. You know what I used to love? The jeans I used to love. Not for me, but for girls to wear. Oh, uh, bongo. Bongo jeans always highlighted a very nice, nice, I would have to say in our, in our,

do you remember bongo? In our 30, almost 40 years, the skirt, the plaid skirt to come back. Oh, the chair, the ever that school girl, like the Britney Spears, they never got better. About five some more years, we'll bring that back. I think so.

I think everything comes in waves of 20 I think every 20 years now dudes be wearing that and then fucking backfire Guys What was that what I remember the Bolo ties you guys remember those? The western it's got like the two strings that come down. Oh my gosh. I never wore that idea. Dude That was a ugly one. That was a bad one. Yeah, that was really and then the excessively wide shoulders on Shoulder pads on women's like suits like women's world-our business suits Oh, yeah, they'd have the excessively like yeah, why didn't they do like we want women in shoulder pads Yeah, we want you more boxy, please.

I don't know. What was that? I don't know. Maybe this is the power move. Oh, I think about it. I think it was to create the illusion of a smaller waste, right? So if you as broke, you brought out their shoulders. It looks like an upside down triangle, though.

I know. No, but that's totally what that had to be in for. Was to think that was the idea. I mean, I'm guessing, but I mean, that's my cause. Is to create that illusion that you have this more tapered waist. That was a silly thought. I was a fan, I mean, I was a fan as a kid, and it kind of came back to the bright colors,

like the neon colors are really popular. They're not as popular as they were. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, they go ocean-Pacific. Yeah. Ocean-Pacific, gotcha. Ocean-Pacific. Yeah, remember that?

Wow. Throwback. I forgot all the painers hat You know what's gotta go and I know I'm gonna offend some people right here because I know I fucking I know I've seen you Where knit you guys is and that I'm just not a fan of them and they've they have made they've made it this is Birkenstocks Birkenstocks are back in their fucking back hard hard Or get stocks are back in their fucking back hard hard Alipay Jesus sandals. They're not that attractive. They're not they're not attractive They are not attractive. They're almost as bad as crap and I see a lot of hot chicks wearing them right now, man I see that and you know what you know when I say the only reason why you get away with it is cuz you're hot

That's why you know what I saw the Be too they jellies we read the we read Jellies you buy them for like 10 don't I mean five bucks? Shit have sweaty feet. You hate your life. Oh, dude, I forgot about that. You know what I saw? You know what I saw for the first time,

like at a beach, we were at the beach and we were hanging out and there were these two girls walking down and they were both, I think they were relatively young, probably teenagers, right? Maybe, maybe older teenagers, like 18, 19. And this girl was walking around, she had a bikini on and everything.

She didn't shave anything. She had full bikini on and everything. She didn't shave anything. She had full on like hairy legs like me, full on hairy armpits. I haven't seen that. I've never seen that on an American beach before. Oh really? Yeah. I'm sure it doesn't add to me. San Francisco. I've seen some tarantulas, you know, crawling out. Yeah, you see that? In the bathing shoes. Yeah. Yeah, well, that age too. Whatever. What age? She was like 19, maybe 20, should we go? No, no older girls, you haven't seen that.

Yeah, well, whatever. And she's confident. Yeah. Good for her. Yeah, that's different though. I'm thinking of like the bad style, so like that we, I forgot about the new guy. I'm picturing jelly.

I can't get the jelly out of my head right now, dude. That was a fucking terrible thing. That was around the neon time too. They were colors like that. They were like green and pink and bright colors and shit like, oh my god, those are punky Brewster. That's what that reminds me of right now. That time.

Oh that's talking about that. What are those called the overalls? What is this called? Overalls? I was like overhaulens. That's coming. That's what the hell is this called? Overall? Overall, I was like, overhaulens. That's coming. That's, that's, that's coming back too right now. Overalls are back instead.

You do like that. Yeah, but I'm there. Strap now. Thank you. Are they gonna wear it though with both straps? Well, you wear it backwards, or cross. Yeah. I used to, you know, I used to wear my overalls.

I used to, I'd buckle them in but then take my arms out. So then it would just hanging down. Remember that and it kind of outlines your, yeah, you hooked him you hooked him back behind you Yeah, that's that's how the guys are overalls are great man. I don't mind those at all. Yeah, they're cool, dude Super cool, especially the train one, you know the stripes Conduct her hat. Yeah real cool, bro Good luck, well hanker chief. Yeah. How about you?

Styles that never die that have just, I mean, this is the twight we all happen to just find funny on the thing about us right now. I'm looking at everybody. We all are wearing chucks today. Yeah. I mean, talk about classic wins. A time a timeless shoe, man, that has made it through forever. Probably one of the simplest shoes that have made it through as long as it has. Did we mention that? Did you know they were bought out by Nike?

Yeah, converse. Yeah, they're not for long time. Yeah, well long time. So is Hurley, I mean Hurley's Nike bought Hurley? Yeah, a long time ago. Oh, I didn't know that. I knew that about converse, but I didn't know. You know how I found out about converse

was I bought a pair of converse at Nordstrom's about, I don't know, maybe two, three years ago. And when I put them on, I was like, whoa, the souls were all like, hella comfortable. Oh yeah, they have the little squishy element they added in the soul. Yes, and so I went to the guy and I said, hey, what's up with the new souls? And he's like, oh no, that's Nike ever since Nike bottom over. They took, they made the souls nicer, so they're more comfortable. Yeah, I noticed that. Yeah, because I have a bunch of pairs No, they thicker now or you off the ground more a little bit thicker so I couldn't find my other matching one and I was like

Totally off kilter a little bit late for the whole day that fuck me up You know, it's interesting. Like I figured that out because that Nike had bought them because remember the Nike ID where you're able to kind of customize your shoe. Like they they implemented that for a converse. So you can actually do that and you can add a little stuff to your shoes. Yeah, which was cool. Now what do you guys think what do you think about the tapered stuff? I know you're not a fan because you have a big fat ass and so tapered shit. Yeah know you're not a fan because you have a big fat ass and tapered shit doesn't it? T-T-T, I mean like, I like room.

Do you have some sweats though and some pants there? Do you have tapered stuff? Tapered, just because they were given to me so they were there. I mean, you know why? I like them because it was popular when we were kids and that's why I tight-roke into it because I've always been a shoe guy and when you have tapered pants, it shows off your shoes. It shows your shoes off, I see. But then we went through that era, which I was very much so a part of too, the big baggy jeans. You know, and I wore that for a shoe guy. And when you have tapered pants, it shows off your shoes. It shows your shoes off, I see. But then we went through that era, which I was very much so a part of too,

with the big baggy jeans, you know, and I wore that for a long time. See, when I was a kid, I hated taper pants because I got tall real fast and I was skinny. So I just looked like a fucking clown because I had big ass feet. I was tall, I had skinny legs, I tapered my pants,

and then I was like, it just looked like I was wearing flippers. So you know what I'm talking about? I did that was when I had the dark, Levi's jeans that you'd roll up like 50 style, you know, so you had the cuffs like, and then I want to go back in time so bad. But that's the only time I did that,

like it kind of worked for me. But even then, like I just need them to, I need them to be the right length, so you can still see the shoe. You know, that's a hard, that's a hard to find those. Yeah, yeah, no, that's very hard to find that. You know, you have, you have a style, just, we're just in lucks out,

is that he has a style that is timeless because it's like, he pulls from like the 50s. Yeah, so like the shoes, so it's like, nobody can be talking shit because it's just like, if you wear that forever and be okay Because you're like reflecting out on a an era that's been long gone forever Well, it's just it's simple too like like the more simplistic Yeah, like I feel like that outlasts the because it is cool to be in good fashion and have like you know

Like loud stuff and like be like get attention and all that, like that's cool. It's cool that people like experiment with stuff, but like I'm like, no man, I'm gonna keep my life like organized and simple. You know, I don't wanna get all flashy. Well, you gotta like it to wanna do that, right? You gotta really like all that shit to get into it. You know, that's, that was one of the things

that I connected with being with Taylor and I first met. I was just like, oh, this kid's all into that stuff. He just so reminds me of myself in the way I was, to a point where it's like such a great reflection, because when he annoys me, I'm like, God dammit. Yeah, you totally have a man butt. Yeah, if I didn't have a hair, I would have a bun. I would have probably, would you rock that?

Well, I grew my hair out, I mean, you know, I had a long hair. Yeah, I mean, when I was, I had a long hair for a second. So I could never do long. I never did it. I'd never do long hair. I got to find some pictures because I did, I went to work one day. Were you working for me when I did that? I went to work one day with rubber bands all and I did the, oh my God, I think I might have seen you. Oh, yeah, dude, I did like all the Chris Cross kind of like little spiky. Oh my God. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did. I did

a crazy. Wow. I had long hair for a second. My my god, I did okay. I did okay, I did okay, I did crazy. Wow. I had long hair for a second. My hair gets kind of wavy and curly too, which is funny. So I look like a greasy, like it gets all over, you know, down, I had it down to here, I had it down to my shoulder. It was a long for Volta, kind of hair. Yeah, but it's like so stereotypical, cause then you know, you see me with the long,

you know, kind of curly hair, you know. I like Katrina convinced me that it was a good idea to do that again, and that was my first show. Inzo, Was it inzo? Was it in here? Is it making fun of your ball spot? I know. He's like, Hey, what did you do that? Hey, thanks assholes. How's like, hey, give him some cut him so slack. I told them to end so I'm like, you're hitting him in the soft. Yeah, it's like, inzo. Yeah, we got to teach him. There's certain things. Yeah, he's I thought you'd just started going bald recently. I'm like, no, mother fucker. I'm going bald. So like 27 dude dude, it was like 10 years ago.

I'd say it's, it progressively gets worse as you get older. I was saying so, dude, the longest I had, I had my hair pretty high. Like I definitely did the high pomp thing. Like I went like as high as I could go. Like that high, that's really nice. It was like this.

Like eating, like eating, like a helmet, you know, it was, it was gnarly. Like it was a lot to manage, but I put so much grease in it that like eat, when I took the grease out, my hair was like way unmanageable. Bro, I used to buy this stuff called glue that I would put in my hair

and it would make it so solid and hard. You could punch me in the head. Yeah. And it wouldn't mess up my head. That used to be a cartoonish thing that you could put in like the gel that was so hardened that you could wake, you could sleep all night, wake up and your hair looks the same.

Bro, it was literally glue, it was white and it was super sticky and tacky and you put it in your hair and then that was it, that fucker, and you know what I used to do? I'd put it in my hair and then I'd hairspray on top of it. Oh my God. And then I'd use a hair dryer to bake it in. So I got hold in the position I'd want,

and I blow dry that fucker, and it would like seal it in the position. Like concrete. Yeah, and it just looked like I was just, you know, I mean, it looked like Max Headrun, remember that guy? Yeah, dude. Nobody knows the old reference coming out.

Yeah, nobody knows who that is, he's listening right now. You can look him up. He was on the Pepsi commercials, I think. Yeah. And he had the fake, the fake stuck on here. We were just talking about the other day, the Pepsi, the Pepsi.

I say that all the time and nobody ever gets that joke. I fucking hate it. It drives me crazy. Yeah. I know. It's like, you're the most apprehensive. It's like Pepsi Clive. I'm just in and I have embraced him.

Don't say that. You know my best friends. You're for sure, Cancer. You're your biggest fear. Yeah. It's not a fear, Yeah, it's not a fear dude It's not a fear guy. I'm figuring you It's not it ask yourself my Cuz I might my two best friends are just like you fucks

Telling you the same thing same thing we get in this. Maybe there's a truth We're in it last night. We're all so we they play hearts with me By the way, if you guys get on to the hearts plus on the app I've been surfing around there lately. That's my game. Come get me, but you can't beat me up. We got a coupon code? I've never been beat.

No, no, it's a free app. Free app on a... It's not a grandpa game at all. Fuck off, bro. It's a game, bro. Come get me on that, right? You guys want to play Trueville Pesuda. You know, dude.

The hearts, we could play some bingo later. It's basically way more intelligence and hearts for sure. What was I just telling you though? You mean there's so much to do? Oh, my friends give you shit. Yes, they're giving me a hard time about, you know, just aging, right? And they're always trying to tell me to embrace us

getting older, because I am the one that's still, like they literally, their outfits are, I was with them when they bought the outfits they're wearing today, like fucking 25 years ago They lit my buddy wore a pair of pants. It gets more comfortable My buddy wore a pair of cargo pants that I was with him when we went shopping our junior year in high school Like he wore see he was wearing there because he's comfortable because he's like the same size like so He's like if it's in my closet still for I'll fucking wear it and I'm like come on man

And then that so when I call them out on that stuff, they turn right back around, call me out about, you know, resisting getting older. Yeah. And I'm like, listen man, like it's, to me it's not about resisting getting older. You for sure, you for sure fear the fuck out of it. No, yes you do.

No, you hate it, it scares the shit out of you. I'm not scared of anything, but you know that. You should know that by now. You know what I mean by scared. Not like literally frightened, but yeah. I feel like it's something that won that I always was into, even was younger. And trust me, because I went through a phase from about,

I wanna say 27 to like 30, 31, where I didn't give a fuck. And I remember like kinda, and the funny part about it was, I think I've told the story a long time ago, on Mind Pump is I used to have these boot camps, right? And most of the people that came to my boot camps were middle age. So between 50 and 60 was probably my average age,

maybe a few 40 year olds in there. And I was in my mid 20s at this time, and I'm running these boot camps, and I used to always tell, I'm mostly ladies, I just tell the ladies, I said listen, I said, I'm always gonna make sure you guys stay young I'm gonna take care of your health and fitness I'm always gonna keep you guys in style too and I always give them like these random tips like I had joke around

I'd be like hey your homework this weekend is to watch MTV for you know 20 minutes or what I thought Pick up on the latest music because I used to say that what happens to everybody is they get stuck in an era Not only fashionably but also the music that they listen to and the things that they're into. And that is the beginning of dying to me. It's like you're not dying, you're living for the first time in your life. When you see a 70 year old guy walking down the street, and on what you like. Yeah, and he's walking around and he just doesn't care, you know what I mean?

He's for the first time of his life. He's like, yeah, exactly. He's living for the first time. Oh, by society. No, this is green. No, man. He's getting, he's getting a bracelet. It's a slow death that he's already begun.

No, no, no. You just started dying earlier than the rest of me. I was in, I get on the car with my cousin the other day. He was, you know, taking me for a drive in his new car. And he sits down and he reaches over to get a seat belt and he does one of these. And I started laughing and he started laughing and I was like those are old sounds, those aren't sounds you make. We didn't make those sounds.

When you get up and you sit down and you get the hair, remember the hairs in your ear, you clip the other day? Yeah, that's all part of your seasoning. Yeah, but you know what though? I clip him. I don't just let him go. Oh, sure. Okay, that you know what though? I clip them. I don't just let them go. Oh, sure. Okay.

That's okay. That's okay. But that's okay. You know what your outfit says to me? You don't care. It doesn't say that I'm dying and you're living. You know what I'm saying? It says, I don't care.

Well, that's what I'm saying. There's levels of... I care, but I'm stubborn. Yeah, there's levels of enlightenment that happen. When you're fully enlightened, you're just like, you just be glowing. Like, I don't care anymore. I sure hope my forum comes to our rescue on this one because I know you cannot, there's no way dude.

Actually, if you think about it, dude, think about the most enlightened people we've ever met or you've ever met or you've ever met. Come on, come on, come on. Look at Paul Check. Every time we meet with Paul Check, he wears the same pants. He's like, whatever.

He's uncomfortable. I love, I love Uncle Paul, but by no means. Of course he's not in style. But fuck style, of course, he's not in style. Like, where's a fucking romper every day? He's fucking in style. If you were a bathrobe, you know, a lot. Yeah, you don't give a fuck.

Yeah. Hey, what's his name, did, for a long time. Playboy, what's his name? Hugh Heffner. All right. I was thinking more of a, uh, hey, what's his name did for a long time? Playboy, what's his name? Hugh Heffner. All right. I was thinking more of a, uh, uh, uh, Oh Henry Dangerfield or not danger. Yeah, Dangerfield. Rodney Dangerfield.

Rodney Dangerfield. Yeah. Oh, I thought you were talking about this. Where's like his balls would just like, you know, fall out randomly. No, no, I mean, there's levels of not, okay, there's not caring in the sense that you, you're sad and you don't care. Like, somebody doesn't care about their health.

And then there's caring about your health, but caring in the wrong ways that are freeing to you, right? Same thing with, I think, with fashion or anything else. But that's why I think is people get older, we tend to think, or younger people tend to think, oh, they don't care anymore. I don't think so. I think some people don't care anymore,

but I think other people realize what they care about is more like, well, it's comfortable. Oh, it's, I don't really care about having to look like a particular way. I don't worry about it anymore. So they enjoy it. You know, it's funny. Some people look at it,

and you just view it differently, bro. Like, some people look at it as a way to express themselves. To me, it's one of my favorite ways to express who I am. And if you think about how I dress, it is very much so a reflection of my personality. So what do I say on this show all the time? Like you can't put me in a fucking box. Like that is, I mean, if there's anything

that defines who I am in the fitness space, it's the same thing. That's how I am in the fashion space. Like one day I'll come walk it in. And someone will be like, what the fuck you look like a skater. And they'll say, oh, you look like a gangster. Oh, you look like a jock.

Oh, that's because I don't want to create a box, right, not in the other boxes. Yeah, man, you don't want to be the guy that's like, I'm in the box of I'm not in boxes. Like, those email kids, you know what I mean? We're like, we dress like this so we don't fit in. It's like, oh, that's weird because there's 15 of you. Yes, that all fit in.

No, exactly. Like, I want to- You're more like that Russian doll, right? Like, you open one Oh that day than this day and the next day and you're all these different Yeah, different I like that. I train the same way too I don't I don't train a a standard way of lifting all the time even remember I remember how much I used to get irritated at the beginning of the show when we first started like everybody put it

Me in the bodybuilding box like that was just like dude. I am not a bodybuilder. Just cause I went and did it. Just cause I'm a bodybuilder. Yeah, just cause I'm a bodybuilder. This is mean, I'm a bodybuilder. Just cause I'm fucking good at it. This is mean I fucking identify, would they? Really? Just do it.

Yeah. How have you guys noticed though, as you've aged, forget the style stuff, as you're aging, that your body's just, it's different when you work out and when you trade. Have you started, have you started making adjustments at home all the time? Have you started making that?

Yeah, I don't. That's what Justin took. That's so like, if you look at him, you're not training. Are you guys making peace with it yet? Are you still fighting it? Cause I'm starting to make peace with some of the, Oh yeah.

No, I am like as far as like, some of your like the rituals and different things that you do now as opposed to like when you do when like the rituals and different things that you do now as opposed to like when you do when you're young and like you just get after it, right? Like I have a whole process I have to get through and like getting the right mental space. What is your, what is your at home situation

on the night just? And the last time we talked you were, yeah, did you get that PRX? Yeah, so now I'm, I'm in, like, I have it all set up so I can actually squat and have it off the rack and everything. And I just got up my I had to rearrange everything. So that climbing wall, I had to move closer to the door

and then I finally got the other post. And so, but now I'm in a great position where I can fold everything and I got the bench all folded against the wall. So- Oh, the bench folds up too. It folds vertically into the wall. So I got that as an

addition, which I love it. That is my favorite feature of the entire thing. Is it the bench holding that up into the wall? Connect to the to the cage or is it separate? No, it's separate. And it just folds up. Yeah, it's like on a it's on like a steel plate. And so I bolted that into the wall. And so what you do is you like you pull it out and then it folds. And then you just, so it's so convenient. Like, dude, it's so, like me walking into the room, you wouldn't, like you don't run into anything. Everything's on the wall. And so I just like pull it out. I pulled a bench out, you know, I rack the weights, you know, from the vertical racks that are on the wall. And then, you know, I get after it. So I just started using it

for like, benching and squatting. And So this is a squat rack. This is the one we saw right in the ad or whatever. It's the rack that when it comes out, it's sturdy because my fear was always. Yeah, how do you feel? Yeah, how do you feel about how I tell you what? I'm going to talk some shit about the gear that we have in here right now. Yeah, I appreciate the small hookup that we got when we first started. It wasn't much. Yeah, I can talk as much as you want. Yeah, but the equipment that we have right now is kind of like, yeah, it's okay. I don't like our benches. Yeah.

Oh, I don't like our benches are. Our benches are terrible. The rack is good. Yeah, the rack is the basics. Yeah, it's, but I mean, it's pretty massive. So, and I know Justin's is not quite as massive. And so is it, does it feel sturdy? It's sturdy because so you, when you pull it off, so it has these like little hinges that, um,

I don't know if it's like a hydraulic, it's not a hydraulic, whatever you call it, but it's like, it's a real sturdy, like hinge. And then it, when it comes down, it comes all the way to the ground. So you're, you're literally driving these big posts into the ground. So like all the force, you know, all the ground forces are just straight from the ground. And then it's bolt and you bolted the, yeah, and with the ground forces are just straight from the ground. And then it's bolted, and you bolted the,

end with the hinges into the studs into the wall. Yeah. So in reality, it might even be more sturdy than one that doesn't fold, because it's bolt, because usually when you get like my rack and my garage, I don't bolt it anywhere, but it's a standalone, it just stands like,

doesn't fold up. Right. You get a little more movement probably. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, and that's why you lift it, you lift it off the ground into the wall, and so you pull it off the wall and then slam it into the ground. And you have to measure it right so that it's in contact

with the floor in case it's uneven or whatever, or does it? Yeah, well, as long as you got a good foundation, your floor level, you're fine. Yeah, I wouldn't suggest you put in a room with carpet. Like, I have a like wood floor. Oh, you could probably still do it though on like thin car. You wouldn't want to do it on big fluffy. Not big fluffy.

How long does it take to unfold and fold back up? Second, two seconds. Really? Yeah, man, it's super convenient. Wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so no, it's great, man, especially if you don't have

a garage or, you know, it's such a great thing for me because I canceled my other membership. We were going to this gym that was close by and we just canceled it because my wife and I, we just work out now downstairs. If you're somebody who's consistent with your workouts, somebody who's, you know you're never gonna stop. One of the best investments who's, you know, you're never gonna stop. One of the best investments in my opinion

you could ever make is a home gym. I don't think a home gym is a great investment for people who don't work out consistently. And they flake. Because otherwise you're spending, you know, a thousand or whatever dollars. You're gonna put your laundry on it just like you would, your cardio machine or whatever.

But if you're actually doing any of our maps programs, like this is like essential, because you know, that was the one thing. It's like, well, I need, I still need a squat rack. I still need a barbell. I still need, you know, these types of things and this, this, like eliminated all those factors. Yeah. Did you guys know that you guys know what we did with them because, because obviously, a lot, anytime you get into a deal, like, so we worked out a partnership with the Rx,

like, you know, just like doing thing with kettlebells, barbells, dumbbells, it costs so much to ship. The margins are terrible, so you can't ever do a badass hookup. Nobody's gonna have a sick ass hookup for equipment, right? So our discount is really small for our listeners, but because of that, something that we did just to show love to our audiences,

that we give one of our programs away with it. You guys know that, right? We give our prime, right? Yeah, prime comes with that. So anybody who purchases the at-home program, or at-home PRX stuff can get prime for free, and it's kind of a kicker that we did to kind of sweeten the deal, because we knew that it was a small discount.

No, I'll tell you what, man, if you're consistent with your workouts, the best investment you can make is a home gym. From, in my opinion, I love the fact that I have a gym in my garage. It's so convenient. I know I'm gonna work at anywhere, anyway. And to be honest with you, once you start working out

by yourself, and what I mean by yourself is you don't, you're not working out in a gym with lots of people, you don't wanna work out in gyms that much. I really don't I mean I can have fun in gyms Don't get me wrong. Mm-hmm, but I fucking I way would rather work out in my own play even in here Even in our gym where I can play my own music do my own thing Well, it's like to me. I look at it like we talk about group classes and like you know orange theories and things like that Like if you're the type person that needs that motivation, you know, God bless you, do that. If you're just somebody that wants to get a really good workout and like,

why are you even going to the gym anymore? Like just get it done in your house and like, you're so much more consistent that way. And then like every but like your family, like, well, sees that like on a consistent basis and they get involved too. So it's like, it's better for everybody. I agree and disagree with you guys. I agree that because I I mean right now, I actually-

You're working out here mostly. Yeah, I play train here 75% of the time. So 75% of the time I'm training out of our studio currently right now. And part of that is because now I've moved to a new place and so I'm trying to figure out what's gyms that are closest to me that I like the most. So now the Monterey Gold goals and then the other 24s,

what's really close to my house, if I'm gonna go to a commercial gym. Now what I like about, so every Saturday and Sunday though, Katrina and I, well, I shouldn't say that because we were in here this last Saturday and Sunday, but most of the time we are over at goals, or what's now American barbell.

And what I like about training in a gym, and I don't know if this was just because of the competitive time that I went and that the gym that I go to with all the other competitive athletes, it's motivating when I see other pros and other people, especially being, and maybe this is because I'm more the physique guy because I do care about the aesthetic side

of it more than you guys probably care. So I do, when I see my peers in their working hard and they look put together and stuff like that. Use of like, pose downs. Yeah, you know, so it does. Just random pose downs. It does get like that. Yeah, I'm like a lie, man.

There's just the posters of dudes flexing on your walls. Stupid, dude. It doesn't work out. We know what you use those for. It doesn't work the same. So even though I'm somebody who doesn't really get distracted by everything else that's going around, on me, I'm very much so in my own space though I'm somebody who doesn't really get distracted by everything else that's going around, I'm very much so in my own space when I'm lifting. There's something about the energy when I

walk into like a American barbell when there's six squat racks and dudes are deadlifting and squatting and I see people pushing and moving like, you know, there'll be a lot of times when I'm, you know, I know I need to get my workout in. I'm gonna lift, and how do I lift it at my house, or lift it in this studio, I might have just kind of gone through the motions, where I kick it into another gear sometimes that I may not have had because of the atmosphere. It's definitely fun. I mean, gyms can be fun, I enjoy working out gyms,

but once you, you'll see, like, when you get to the point where you have your own, like, in your house, and it's got everything you need, you'll see, it gets to a point where you have your own like in your house and it's got everything you need You'll see it gets to a point where you're it's just not it's more of a hassle to go somewhere I've been there before I've been there before and I've had that and the reason why I don't now and I haven't invested it again It's just because I Because of this exact reason I didn't I didn't use it like I'd want to because it's in my house It was convenient and nice. But then because of that, like, when I go to the gym

and I have to drive to it, it's like the same thing like when you people buy personal training. Like a lot of times clients buy personal training, not even because they needed it, it's because they know that if they buy the personal training and they have to show up to a employment or they'll lose money, if they don't show up to the employment,

it makes them go to it. Well, when I drive all the way to a gym and I go there, I'm not going to do a 10 minute workout and turn around and walk away. When it's in my house, I may only do a 10 minute workout. You're less motivated? Yeah, I'm less motivated. And that's not to say that I don't have still incredible workouts here at the studio because

some of my best workouts have been here. I just had an incredible workout yesterday here. But I'm more likely to go like, that's enough. I'm going to go back in my house, which is five feet away. Well, the other part of it too, is the life changes though too. Yeah, it does, and especially if you like time windows.

Shrink. Yeah, because for me to just get, I'm watching TV or whatever, I'm like, oh wait a minute, I'm going downstairs. But it makes it fun too, because it's like, I just wanna do something like, well, everybody's reading or, you know, often doing their thing. I'm like, no, I'd go down, lift something.

That could, now this is, you know, single, no kid at them talking, right? Like, 100%, I could totally see a different attitude for me if I had two kids like you both do, because, you know, I see my, I have friends that have kids and they both work kids and they, and they both work out and they have to do this whole thing where she comes, you know, for an hour and then gets to lift and then, and he washes the kids and then she goes home and then he goes to

the serious hassle. Yeah, it's like three hours. Yeah, it's a four hour block for each per, each person to get a workout where it's like fuck honey, if we just had this in our house, we could both get our lift. Put the baby in the, in the. Put the baby in the little baby gym right there, or whatever. Yeah, they could be in the house, why I'm lifting it, I could be checking on them in between sets. They could be,

so I could, I definitely could see, part of it for two changing being a guy who is, and part of it for me too, is I have a different relationship with it because that's how I started. I started working out at 14, and from 14 to 17 or so, I worked out in the backyard. And so there's something about working out

when it's hot outside or cold outside. I just tell you for you, though. Rain and different attachment. And that's part of it. Part of it is that feeling of it's just me and the weights and I'm getting creative and I've had me great workouts. And also the exercises that I tend to like tend to be ones that don't require lots of equipment.

Like I prefer a T-Bar row with the bar in the corner, you know, Ronnie Coleman style or whatever, Arnold, you know, the way he did them. I prefer that. I prefer pull ups over pull downs. I prefer, you know, doing these kinds of movements and having to get creative, you know, with free weights. And it just, I don't know, it just feels better to me.

But, it doesn't mean I don't enjoy going to the gym. It's cool. And this is something I kind of told you guys a while back that I was starting to slowly collect vinyl records. And I've been trying to do this just out of classic albums that I want to show my kids. Like, these are the ones, these are the ones that are timeless. I want you to listen.

And so anyway, so I have a record player, but I don't really have the speakers yet. So I'm gonna end up that, I guess Sonos has some speakers that hook up to it so I can do it all wirelessly. So I'm gonna set that up in the gym and then have old records playing while we're all working out and stuff too. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm going all out with this thing.

But I think if you work out and your consistent as hell, a home gym, you buy it once, you never have to buy it again, you use it as much as you do, man. It's a- Well, at the end of the day, you're somebody who can afford to have both here and the best of both worlds, right? If you can afford to have an ad home gym and then also a gym membership work, because that's what I want.

Like in Katrina know, I've talked about this many times. Like man, we should just get a platform and a squat rack thing. Well, it's affordable though. I mean, if you look at, and I know just to kind of plug what they're doing, like they are one of the only ones that you can actually do like a payment plan. So it's like a membership.

Yeah, anyway. And so you get it all, you install it, They are one of the only ones that you can actually do like a payment plan. So it's like a membership. Yeah. And so you get it all, you install it, and then you just, I mean, it's really not gonna hit you too bad, you know, month to month. So it's an option. You know what I used to like about going to the gym was that they had a steam room and stuff like that.

Those are things that I don't have at home. Oh yeah. Yeah, I really enjoy it. But at some point I'm gonna have that certain to amenities like that, yeah, for sure. At some point I'm gonna have to have that. I don't get the sauna here. I mean, I use the fuck out of that thing. I mean, I love the infrared sauna man. And I we haven't plugged them in a long time. And that thing is been like a huge game changer for me. And I tell Taylor Taylor is finally on board with that too. He's had a couple of days where he's just like man, it feels all

groggy. Or does he go see it? I said, go fucking sit in that thing. He's had a couple of days where he just like, man, it feels all groggy. He doesn't get greasy. It was a go fucking sit in that thing. Ever since Ben Greenfield told me, that's like part of his regimen, when he flies across country to like reset his circadian rhythm. And he's like, oh yeah, that's been, it's like the first thing he goes, like when I land somewhere, I go find an infrared sauna, a sit in a sauna.

And so since that, I thought, you know what? Every time I feel off, like if I didn't get good sleep, or anything like that, like make sure I go in there. I'm not looking for one. I wonder if they have one of those in Scotland, I'll have to look. Dude, that has been huge for a spa. Oh, all spa somewhere there.

Do they have a culture there that, I don't know. I know in the Eastern, you know. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, we'll see what all that looks like. I have no idea. You'll find bars. Yeah, I will find a lot of pubs. I will be drinking whiskey stuff like that But no, you know what we so we dug we haven't done a unboxing of a long time from thrive market

Are we gonna do one of those soon? Let's order some stuff. Yeah, let's do that. Yeah, I think I'd like to order some cleaning Yeah, why do we stop doing that? What happened? I don't know if you just felt like we were doing it all the time So I thought we'd mix it up a little bit. I feel like you were being so giving and nice, and also you cut us off, that we did something wrong. I want Mac and Damien nuts. Okay, I'll go back to my old giving stuff. I like when Doug did surprises.

Oh, he likes to be jerky, man. I like, you know what's so well, Doug, that I feel like when you pick it out for us, it's more fun. I feel like I raised the bar too high at the beginning, though, because I was finding all these really unique unusual things Oh, yeah, and then I just think after a while then it's they're gone and now you just kind of do mundane things I think you need to try harder. I think it's just okay They're okay try harder

You know a lot of people guys a lot of people don't know this we mentioned it several times before but a lot of people Know this thrive market gives free memberships to people in need. I love this company. Yeah, when you get a membership at Thrive market, they'll give a free membership to somebody who's low income who could definitely benefit from having high quality non-GMO, organic foods delivered to the door.

Do you know what Doug, by any chance, at what rate they're continuing to expand their, their base of stuff? I mean, I feel like they're constantly, constantly adding things to it. So, since it's been a while since I've looked for unusual things, I bet there's a bunch now that are available.

Here's what I'll do for our next time that we mentioned Thrive Market, I'll have a box here for us. All right,, excellent. Excellent. Good looking out, Doug. But yeah, it is interesting though this whole funny I talked about this on I was just interviewed on another podcast that order a man. Oh you played one of our sponsors on another Podcast. No, no Never been Greenfield that's us. Make sure you use mine pump That is a shit on. Never been Greenfield, that's us. Make sure, you used to call it Mind Pump. Like 15 is that.

Yeah, big greenfield is like six on one of our shit. Like you mother fucker, fucking your sponsors on our show like that. No, but it's just an angel like that. One of the things we talked about on there was how it's becoming more and more marketable to be charitable. Which we've never really seen that before. Yeah.

And thrive markets doing it. And you know, some of our other sponsors, like Meera does that? Yeah, not. It's becoming a big thing. You go shop, there's a whole, I mean, you, I just watched a great YouTube on this, that they're saying that it's, it's going to become mandatory in the future. That's how serious it is.

It's that serious where the, like, we're at the point now where it's so competitive. You can learn so much from, from companies, For every great company that someone talks about, there's another one that is just as great that's providing as good of services with competitive prices and is giving some of their profits away to some good cause, and that's becoming a standard. It's becoming the consumer wants that.

And you know, good. So we don't run into more of these issues like with the Tal Compowder from fucking Johnson and Johnson, giving everybody cancer. Oh my God. Shit. It's good, but what always happens that you get the extreme was what I'm seeing now is, you know, I see people and I've talked to several people that are trying to start businesses and they're spending more of their time trying to figure out their cause and what they're

going to give their money to before they even learn how to make money. And so, which I think your heart is in the right place, but if you have the coolest charity that you're giving and you only have five people- You have a model that works. Yeah, if you don't have a good business model, you're not doing as good as you intended to do anyways. And so, I like how we've done things. I know we've always talked, especially Sal, I know this has been on your heart for

a very long time as far as us doing some sort of giving back. But the bottom line is we still haven't learned how to give to ourselves and actually build a sustainable business. Well, that's the irony of it, right? Like, do that first. People demonize profiting so much.

And oh, they just want to profit whatever, you know, the realities, you have to profit in order to be able to give and create a sustainable, you know, process of giving. Otherwise, you run out and you can't help anymore. There's no doubt in my mind we're going to have a dope-ass cause that we'll give to and we'll give a substantial amount of money consistently to them when we've established a very consistent model ourselves and where everyone's is set.

But I do embrace the fact that the market seems to value that more and more. You go to the grocery store now, and there's whole lines of products where you can flip them over, and there's all these things that they fair trade certified. And we do this, and we do that, and you see that, and it's like,

you know why they're putting that on their label? Because people want that. And I can't wait. People are seeking that out now. I cannot wait until it gets to the point where celebrities are going to have to start doing this in order to be cool. It's still not cool yet. It's great when you do something and you put it out there and people think that's awesome.

But it's not cool yet. Like the celebrity driving the cool car or having the cool house. But I believe in the future it's going to be like, that's how they're going to virtue signal. And I mean, they're gonna be like, oh hey, I donated all my money to this, where I'm doing that. Although it's not maybe not the same intentions,

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Quikwa... First up, Misty gets real. Get real Misty. You guys have mentioned BCAAs are a waste of money. Can you elaborate on? Why? Branch chain amino acids. Sprinkle some BCAAs all over it. So those are, there's three amino acids, so first of all there's essential amino acids that you need to consume

because your body cannot produce them. In other words, if you don't consume them, you die. And then there's non-essential amino acids that your body can make itself, and you don't necessarily have to consume them. Now within those essential amino acids, there are three amino acids that have been shown to be quite important when it comes to things like recovery, muscle repair, performance. Losing glutamine and. Now, losing, isolucine and valine. Oh, glutamine's not in there.

No, glutamine's non-essential. Glutamine's not an essential amino acid. Although glutamine is the most abundant amino acid in skeletal muscle, it's not an essential one. So anyway, you have those three branching amino acids, losing isolucine and valine. And, you know, here's the funny thing about branching amino acids, Lucy and I, Solution and Vailine. And, you know, here's the funny thing about branching amino acids, by the way.

They are not new supplements. One of the, some of the very earliest supplements that weren't just a protein powder were branching amino acids supplements. And this is because old studies showed that people who were ill or burn victims or, you know or long distance runners when they would supplement with these things,

they would recover and feel better. And so then of course, the supplement industry took hold of that and said, oh, everybody supplement with lots of branchement of acids is gonna build more muscle and burn more body fat. Not so fast, doesn't quite work that way. It seems that if your protein intake is not at an optimal level, then supplementing with branch chaminin acids has some benefit.

If you're getting adequate protein, because remember protein is made up of amino acids, and a complete protein has all of them, including the branch chaminin acids. Well, I was going to say, wasn't there a supplement company that just like bottled up in pill in these little tiny pills of just way protein. They were big ass huge pills. The amino isocene acid. They take amino acids. The irony of this is this BCAAs are pushed the most in the bodybuilding community by

the people that needed the least. And the thought was, oh, when I'm cutting, and I'm, you know, for a show or, you know, getting shredded and I'm low calorie, I don't want my muscle to get eaten up. So I'm gonna take BCAs and I'm gonna drink on it all day long. That is stupid, especially coming from a body builder who more than likely is doing one to two to three times the amount of protein

that they need on a daily basis. So they're getting ample enough protein and covering their bases on branched-chain amino acids that they're, oh, I love that one waste of money. People will supplement with BCAAs and be like, this has one gram of, you know, one gram of loose scene and, or, you know, one and a half grams of loose scene of loose scene, and 750 milligrams of isolucine and valine, because they always want that two to one ratio. That's another discussion. And I'll look at that and be like,

you know, five grams of way protein has got way more than that, five grams, not 30 grams or 20 grams, but literally a sprinkling of way protein. Yeah, a little bit of that. It's gonna have more than what you're supplementing with your BCAA. So that's why I say it's a waste of money. If you're eating adequate amounts of protein, a little bit of that. It's gonna have more than what you're supplementing with your BCAA. So that's why I say it's a waste of money. If you're eating adequate amounts of protein,

it's not doing anything for you to take all of that. And all of that. Cover that. Attiquate amount to protein is like 0.8 grams per pound of body weight. That's the upper limit. Yeah, that's the upper limit of that. So the only person I could see some value to this

is maybe a vegan and a calorie-restricted hardcore, you know, training regimen or marathon-type running, right? Yeah. Even then, even then, a vegan, I would even put on bench amino acids. I would put them on essential, all the essential amino acids. Right. Because when you look at, okay, here's the other thing, too, post-workout, people like to supplement with amino acidspecines and protein,

because it spikes muscle protein synthesis a little bit. Which is true, now we're splitting hairs here, okay? And we've talked about in previous episodes, why it's probably not that big of a deal. But let's say you've got all, everything's perfect, and you want to just maximize every little half a percent. You're still better off supplementing either with protein, or even just the essential amino acids.

The essential amino acids is really all you need to take advantage of that little spike in protein synthesis. Which is covered in your way protein. Or if you're taking a protein shake post workout, you're getting that. Yeah, you've got all that. Now here's the thing you need to be careful for, because here's what's happening.

People are buying branch chain amino acid drinks that are flavored like watermelon. Yeah, and they're drinking them all day long because they think it's gonna make them build more muscle. If you flood your brain and your body with too many branching amino acids, you could mess around with your brain's, or your body's ability to create certain neurotransmitters,

and you may create an artificially kind of depressed state. And there's actually a lot of anecdote of people who are saying, oh, I've been taking all these BCAAs neurotransmitters and you make create an artificially kind of depressed state. And there's actually a lot of anecdotes of people who are saying, oh, I was taking all these BCAAs and I didn't know why I felt shitty. And then when I stopped, I started to feel better. But it's funny again because BCAAs, every five to ten years, they push it. The supplement industry pushes it because BCAAs were big when I first started working out when I was 14, 15. I used to take them as a kid. Then it wasn't popular for a while.

Then it got popular again. Then it wasn't popular for a while. Then it got popular again. And right now we're looking at, and you know who's pushing it to, is people who promote fasting in the most of the world. Yes. Yeah. That's the big push right now.

Yeah. Because intermittent fasting is huge. And the theory is okay You're depleted. You're not getting your essential nutrients at least take this so your body doesn't eat up muscle Yeah, the reason why you get benefits from fasting is because you're not getting amino acids and because you're not getting You know glucose and you're not getting fats. That's why you get the benefits of fasting So you throw amino acids at yourself and now you're creating You're basically reducing your diet.

And again, I would argue that going in a state where you deprive yourself of certain nutrients, stressing the body to not have it for a little bit every once in a while is probably advantageous for the body, especially when you go right back the next day or two days later to your 150 to 200 or 300 grams of protein. Like it will do you well to give your body none for a day. Muscles not gonna fall off your body,

and then you come back to your regular cycle of eating normal amounts of protein, and you're getting adequate. I just paid attention to what's lasted, right? Like what are the supplements that have lasted through all these trends? It's creatine and like weight protein. Yeah, like argue like any other supplement that has relevance.

Yeah. No, it's true. It's absolutely true. It's funny. I used to recommend branch amino acids to some of the guys I would do Jiu-Jitsu with, and they would get better recovery from it. And it was because they didn't eat that much protein. I remember, it was a good friend of mine who was, he was in his mid 40s and he was doing Jiu-Jitsu with us and you complain about getting sore. So we talk about his diet and the guy,

he was probably consuming, you know, 60 grams of protein a day, which is enough to keep you alive and it's not gonna, you're not gonna get sick, but when you're training really hard, it's not an ideal amount of protein. And so I told him, hey, supplement with branching amino acids if you don't want to take a protein shake or whatever and he got great results from it.

And that's really where I see the application. If you're getting the upper limit of what you're going to get from protein, which is like we said, and by the way, this is pretty established in studies. It's about 0.8 grams per pound of body weight for relatively lean people that you don't want to do that if you're obese because then your protein will be way through the roof.

Taking BCAAs is really doing nothing for you at all. And this is true for all the amino acids that people supplement with. Now there could be some benefit from increasing nitric oxide, from taking citrulline by itself on an empty stomach, but there's really not that big of it. Supply any with amino acids, the only people I see who benefit from that low protein

or people who have trouble getting, who have a limiting amino acid, like vegans sometimes who don't know how to plan their meals well. Because with vegetable proteins, many times what you'll get is, you'll get a complete protein, but one amino acid will be really low.

And so it kind of lowers the overall value of that protein. So if it's 30 grams of protein, it's the same value as like 15 grams of egg protein because there's a limiting amino acid. With those people sometimes they'll say, okay, supplement with essential amino acids to increase the bioavailability and the quality of your protein and use it more. But other than that, it's really not a great investment and it's really used as a way to sell you supplements. And many times it's selling you something that tastes really good. They'll say, hey, have this really,

this really, really good tasting watermelon drink. Oh, and it's got BCAAs in it. So now people are like, oh, they've got a- Well, in the bodybuilding community, they've scared you into thinking that you're gonna burn up your muscle. It goes right into that myth of our body, starts to metabolize muscle when we don't have

enough calories in it. And so that's what, I think that's how bodybuilders and that community uses it. And who I see push it the most is that. Men's physique and bikini athletes every day. And of course I fall because a lot of them are peers and friends that in my feed, I get at least one a day where they're pushing on Instagram, they're branching, I mean, I ask that they're pouring in their drinking.

I would venture to say that those guys and girls, I would be more concerned about all the artificial shit that they're in taking on such a consistent basis. That's got, I'd be more worried about the detriment that they're going to get from that opposed to the splitting hairs of the benefits they're gonna get by taking the BCAAs. It's like for sure, that in itself to me, you gotta drop that. Dude, I remember, why would you take that? I remember when Extend, you guys ever used that before?

That, it's a, I mean, the last couple of them Extends, but no, that's a boner pill. Not the one you guys share. We got excited. It's a drink that really tastes fucking good. They do a good job engineering that thing to taste like a fucking celebrity, right?

It's really, really good. And it's branching to me to acid, and it's a recovery drink, right? This is what they call it. And it's artificially flavored and all that stuff. And I knew guys that were drinking that, they would do their gallon of water or two gallons of water that's supposed to drink all day long.

And then they would just throw that in there and say oh, it's branching amino acids reality is they just wanted to have fucking tasty You know tasty water all day long. Yeah, but they were drinking this all day long at these high doses And those are the guys I was like I said tell them like you be careful dude You throw off your your neurotransmitters because you're hammering yourself with so many amino acids that are Could be influencing how your brains, you know, well you got to think your body's in a naturally downregulated right because if you're flooding it with anything That's what ends up happening so I could see and that's again Why I think the the bodybuilding community is the worst to be doing that you're already flooding your body I've yet to meet a a competitor who under consumes protein

They're the most overnourished people in the world. Yeah, so who under-consumes protein. They're the most over-neurished people in the world. Yeah, multivitamins and so on. And so if you flood your body constantly with things that it could potentially produce on its own, or that it was already getting plenty and adequate amounts, just like anything else, it's gonna slow down this process of using it, right?

I remember when I was, I think I was 16 years old, my parents, maybe 15, my parents went to Italy for two months. And so me and my siblings lived with my grandmother and my grandfather. And at this time, I was taking protein drinks all the time. So I'd always shake up my drinks, my weight gainers, and I was always trying to gain mass, right? I was a skinny kid.

Now when I lived in my grandmother, my grandmother's old school Sicilian, right, doesn't work. And her life mission is to feed the fuck out of her grandkids, what she does. So I live there. So I live there for that short period of time, and my grandmother literally was my personal chef and a lover to death, right? So she would literally say to me, what do you want for breakfast? What do you want for lunch? And I was trying to gain muscle so I was like, oh, steak, eggs, I want fucking lamb, I want beef, I want this. And she would just make me these huge, like protein meals.

So I stopped taking shakes and I was just eating real food. And I remember in a two month period, I got so strong and I built visible muscle. And that's when things started to click a little bit and I was like, wait a minute, I'm not taking shakes, but I'm eating real food. That shit's way more effective. You know what I mean? Next question is from VMA, Mr. Black. Can you explain muscle bellies

and how they play a role in our overall appearance? Yeah, it's fine. We gotta talk about this, because we mentioned this a lot on the show about how someone's muscle bellies are. I didn't realize how much I talk about it. I didn't know that you until you pointed that out. Like I was just...

Well, I think we forget that people don't know what that you know That's muscle building lingo. Well, it and it's it's been something to me for me that Is really really helped me teach clients and get them to understand what's going on with this because Clients refer rule tell you like how they look right they they look at the mirror You know, you're training them. You're telling them how to eat, and then you say, stick to this, do these exact things, and then wheat goes by, and they look at themselves in the mirror, and sometimes they come back to you,

and they're like, I don't like the way I look, I look like this, I look like that, and sometimes you have to explain exactly what they're probably seeing and why that is, because they know for sure, you know your body, there's nothing that Justin said something earlier today. And then when we talked, again, we mentioned it off air about muscle bellies, I made a comment about why he feels

that way, like, you know, he's like, man, I just feel like I'm shrinking, you know, and we're, because we are complimenting how lean he looks and how good he looks right now. And he's like, I just feel like I'm shrinking. Well, absolutely you are. You're in a calorie deficit. You are depleted of carbohydrates.

And so your body's holding less water. You have less carbohydrates in your body, which fill up your muscle bellies, both water and carbohydrates do that. And when you fill the muscle bellies up full of fluid and carbohydrates, you, they look fuller and more pronounced. And it creates this more bubbly, filled out muscle look on your body. And that's why- It looks like up to 70% of your muscle is not muscle fiber.

That's right. You know? Most of it is fluid. And so when you fully understand this, and when you understand that when you're on a diet, where you're in a caloric restricted place, or you're on like a keto or a carnivore diet. So you might consider it flat or dry.

Flat. Okay. So yeah, dry is not, I'm trying to get into lingo. Yeah, flat is like your muscle bellies are flat right now, which what I know right now that I could, you can dry is that you don't get dry until your fries all like, when you're shredded, then you can see if you're holding water or not.

You have to get really, excuse me. So, but this is, this is all like we're laughing cause it's body builder, Lingo and talking to him, but this has actually made me a much better coach for the average, like my average client who's 60, who doesn't give a shit about it. Yeah, you can articulate kind of what's going on with the changes of their body,

and they can identify it. And I could show them, I could literally tell them, like watch this, okay, so for example, you know, I helped someone out recently and she's in her 50s and we've been on a low calorie for a little while and she's been low carbohydrate for three days in a row right and she's just like I don't my feel like I'm you know heart leaning that I don't you know I don't feel like I'm looking I mean the scale I'm down a tiny bit but not much I don't feel like I'm looking better I'm like oh that's because you're leaning out right now

you're completely what we call flat. I say, what I want you to do is go have a cup and a half of rice, and then go look at yourself in the mirror an hour later. And instantly, cup and a half of rice and maybe a glass of water too, and that same person will also go, and the muscle belt, you don't get fat from that.

One cup of rice is not gonna make you fat. If your calories are under, yeah. Yeah, yeah, it's okay, but what it will do is it will shuttle a bunch of glucose and a bunch of water into the muscle bellies and it will now fill them out and it will give you a much different look. Just a new experience this after Saturday,

we had like two drinks, which is more carbs than you've had all month, because you're in carnivore. And you noticed that the next day. I did. Actually, I was actually worried. I was gonna be like all bloated and like, you know, like, look like shit. And it actually was the opposite.

I felt like I was like, oh wow. I had more definition and it looked like more tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's weird. So, so the, we have to explain what muscle bells are because people, like when you look at the muscle, you have the actual muscle itself and then you have the tendons that they attach to

and then they're insertions, okay? The muscle belly is just the muscle itself. That's all it is. When we're talking about a muscle belly, we're talking about the big part where all the muscle fibers are. We're not talking about the rest of it. So, the ends of it, they, they, they, they, they, so, I'm're talking about the big part where all the muscle fibers are. We're not talking about the rest of it. So the ends of it.

The ends of it. So when we say something like, oh, you know, like for example, in bodybuilding because it's an aesthetic sport and you're being judged entirely how you look, a lot of it is your training and diet, but another part of it, that's a big part of it, has to do with your genetics. And one part of that is how long and full are your muscle bellies? So here's an example. You can imagine somebody who has really high calves.

So this is a person who has this really short calf almost up behind their knee. That person has a short muscle belly. Now, if this doesn't mean they have a weaker muscle because long short muscle belly doesn't mean it's stronger or weaker, it's just the way it appears. They have a shorter muscle belly. Or versus someone else who may have a long calf that goes all the way down to their ankle, like Justin, for example, that really long muscle belly

is on his calves, that is a longer muscle belly. It doesn't mean it's stronger or weaker again, but for bodybuilding purposes, when you have these long muscle bellies, where if you look at your bicep and it goes all the way down to your elbow, rather than it being the short naughty thing at the top, when you build that, there's more muscle appearing to, it creates illusion of being a bigger muscle. And so, that's why they talk so much about muscle bellies in bodybuilding. And so for the most part, longer, fuller muscle bellies are more aesthetic. Maybe, and I

say the most part because I know a lot of women don't necessarily want really long, you know, cat. Well, you can use that, you can use that same analogy, though, for the butt for women. Like you see some women have that with, you know, like the long ass or you have some that like the bubbly, like a bubbly butt, that's what they have like a shorter origin insertion of the butt, and they have a shorter, smaller muscle belly, and so when you build that muscle belly,

it gets this more pronounced bubbly look. So, but you know, this is, it's a body builder term. It's definitely something that I spoke to, learn more about as I got into competing, but it's helped me tremendously out with the average person, because here's another mistake a lot of people make. I used to see this all the time. And now I have words to give to somebody to help describe or walk them through this process.

When someone's been dieting for a couple of weeks and they're discouraged and they decide, fuck it, I'm going to go out and have a night with the girls and go cheat or have a bad meal or whatever or just eat for fun for that day. And then they wake up and they feel better. They look better because all of a sudden they get all filled out. They were, what they don't realize is that they get the people like, oh, I just got to eat like that. Yes.

So that's what, so then they go, oh shit, well that would be look better than another day won't hurt. And then what ends up, then what ends up happening is then you, when then you get the other term that we use in body building. Yes, spillover is everything's filled out. The muscle buildings are all filled out. They get the storage is all filled up. And then you keep consuming that overconsumption after you've already filled the body out, now

get stored as body fat. And so you're always kind of playing with it. And then what ends up happening too is like, so for burning fat, let's say you're somebody who eats a lot of calories. So like when Justin first started the carnivore diet, the first day or two, he's not probably going to burn that much fat because his body stores a bunch of glycogen that he can use for later on. And you store it in the muscle. That's a good fully depleted.

Yes. Right. So once you depletes that all out, and then now the body doesn't have somewhere to go, now it looks for another resource, which then is body fat, right? So then it utilizes body fat as energy. Now during this process, you have this look that you don't feel the greatest

and your workouts maybe you don't perform always the best too because you don't have this quick energy that your body can tap into. It's having to process and turn over the fat and use that as energy. And it's not the best feeling, it's not the best look on you. And then when you refuel, this is also why I love carb cycling is because it's easier to show people this when they do this, when they have a low, a medium, and a high day, when I give someone a nice high day, they get to feel the workout, they get to see their body all filled out again,

and then they go, hey, let's deplete again. Now here's something that's interesting. Now, I said earlier, short muscle belly long muscle belly doesn't necessarily mean one stronger or one is weaker, because there's a lot of factors that go into play. However, that being said, when all things are equal, here's something you will notice. The most agile type athletes tend to have shorter muscle bellies if you notice like sprinters or fire quicker.

They have, well not necessarily even that, they're just, I think it's just less mass to move and it's less, it's, it's out of the way. So when you, you look at long, like the long legs and the short calf muscles of sprinters that are very developed. But then on the other side of it, longer muscle bellies may have a potential for greater muscular strength because of the larger cross-sectional area, which is why when you look at strength athletes, like at the upper level, like power lifters and strongmen, they do tend to have these bigger, longer muscle bellies. So, it is kind of interesting. It's very fascinating, right? How one may be more beneficial to one thing versus another. But from an aesthetics standpoint, longer muscle bellies tend to look better.

And in the defense of bodybuilding, I know we rail on them a lot, and right now we're giving them props. Here's a deal, like bodybuilders know how to manipulate, die in nutrition better than any other athlete in the world, hands down. In order to get you to change how you look and how certain things are gonna affect your body,

they're the frickin', they're the scientists. Well, I'll take, and a lot of what we know came from there. I don't know if Justin remembers or not, but before we started Mindpop, him and I were meeting with level up and that stuff. And this is when I was starting my like real serious diet and getting in, heading in the competitive direction like that I was gonna start getting in that kind of shape.

And I remember every time I meet with him every week coming back to like, Pro, I remember to be that far into my career and to have this knowledge already, but to apply it to that much detail, I was learning so much. I was blowing my mind. I remember coming back every week to talk to him like, Pro,

like, I can't believe this. When I do this, this, and this, like, I see this, I feel this, I notice this, like, it was all the science that I've understood for a long time, but I've never applied it to that much detail. It taught me so much, not only about myself, but just about the human body and a lot of these little nuances that people go through when they're trying to lose fat or to gain muscle. And it's now gave me this, this ability to communicate that better to the average person who's struggling

with, why do I look this way? I don't, the average person who's struggling with, why do I look this way? I don't feel like I'm saying, well, you know, think when our body burns body fat, okay? When you lose one pound of fat, it's like dispersed over your entire body. Like, that's really hard to see the difference, but you drinking water and having some carbohydrates can manipulate your body by five to eight pounds. So at any day, any part of your day, you can manipulate the way your body looks far more than you ever could by restricting calories and burning body fat.

So keeping that in mind, when you have a goal of losing body fat or building muscle and you're trying to use the mirror and the scale as your way of like giving your, am I doing a good job or not? That's why it's such a bad tool to tell us that because when you build muscle and you burn fat, those two things are so incremental that carbs and water trump that every part of your day.

One meal could make you look so different and you could spend three days on a treadmill and three days on a treadmill and three days, actually, I can lose five to seven pounds in a week, easy. Well, that's why these wraps and all these types of things, like in sweating, you know, and like, I mean, that's why like somebody will go and they'll get this wrap and they'll be like,

oh my god, it looks so much better. Right. You know, it's like it's an immediate, like a water manipulation tactic. It sucks five pounds of water out of you. Like it does, you know, visibly change you, but it's not for composting at all. Next up is the village crazy lady.

What is the best position to sleep in if you have mobility issues? I guess it would be what mobility issues you have because that would matter, but personally, I think sleeping on your back is the best. It depends, you know, because like somebody who has issues with your apnea would be a concern. We're snoring, that could be a bad one.

Right, but here's my theory on it. Most, most everything we do is the anteriorly driven. So we're so rounded forward. And laying on your back allows gravity to counter that. Decompresses. Yes. So like everybody has forward shoulder and forward head.

Everybody has it's slight forward shoulder and forward head. And much of us, especially in now's generation, have it excessive. And so to lay flat on your back, you have gravity pushing down on you, which is now at least, and especially when you're sleeping and you actually relax, I would think that that counters a lot of the bad stuff that you do throughout your day,

hunched over on a computer, on a cell phone, whatever that rounds the body forward. I can't imagine any other sleeping position that counters it better than laying flat on your back. So I understand the snoring issues, and like that obviously there's gonna be exceptions to every rule, but I would think that flat on your back is as good as it gets.

Yeah, the thing that I, the thing Yeah, the reason why I always have an issue with answering this question is there's a lot of individual factors. Here's the other thing. The varies. What I don't want to do is sell a sleep position because at the end of the day, the most important thing that happens when you sleep is your quality of sleep. That's a good point.

So if you have a weird sleeping position, but you're comfortable in it and it gives you the best night sleep, well that one's the best then. You may hear us say, hey, sleep on it. That's a good point. Yeah, so you may hear us say, oh, sleep on your back or on your in a fetal position.

Yeah, I sleep like a vampire. Do you really? No. Sleeping in a fetal position is supposed to be one of the better ones with a pillow between your knees and it's supposed to produce the best thing. But here's a deal, you may hear that and you may go try it.

And then why does that produce the best sleep? Because I think that crutches the common postural deviation. That's the reason why that feels so comfortable. Because you're closing the body and the air, because you close it up all day long. So you close it up even tighter in the fetal position. So there's a lot of theories as to why, because the fetal position is by far the most common,

it's the most popular sleeping position and it's the one that when people get tested, tend to sleep the best in. Now there's some theories as to why. One, maybe what you're saying, mobility issues. You can argue that, although I would say in a fetal position, you need to have a good pillow. You have to have good hip mobility because when the knees come in, you get this weird angle

with the hips so some people have to put a pillow between their knees. But I think it's also because if you look at all the things that humans do throughout the day or throughout our lives, the most vulnerable thing that we ever do is sleep. Like, you know, for cave people, like we were for most of the time that humans have been on Earth. You're sleeping, you're out, your senses are off, your brain is basically turned off. It's dark, we don't see very well in the dark.

This is when all the predators are out. And so that was a very scary vulnerable thing to do was to sleep. Sleeping in a fetal position protects a lot of your vital areas and it places your back out, which is a little bit better protected. So I think that may be part of it. So in case you say so, if you're worried about any bears or mountain lions, it's actually

a big thing. Well, no, I think that's why we have that tendency in our DNA. Yeah, like to sleep. And also how we are when we're in the womb, right? So I think they could be that too, right? But I'll tell you what, in terms of, how do you guys sleep? Well, see, that's what I was gonna say.

I sleep on my side. I know you sleep on your mouth, I've seen you. Yeah, and with my pants off. I don't know why that matters, but it's in there. Visual. Yeah, but yeah, no, I sleep on my side, but I shift. Like sometimes I'll shift, sometimes I'll stay on one side, but like my, I just innately just, I'll go into my back

and then I'll turn and go to the other side. So I'm like almost like a windshield wiper. Oh, God, I feel like Courtney would hate sleeping with you. Yeah, well she's out, man, like she does her thing. I do my thing. We don't interact. Zero cuddling. Nothing. No, no way, man. That's because they're not in the long term. man's like she's she does her thing I do my thing we don't we don't interact zero cuddling nothing no way man that's because they're not enough stuff yeah yeah what

you what you how do you sleep I sleep a I'll start off on my back and then I go to my side I feel like you're like a cuddler and a half me yeah well both you know what you know what cap cout spoon cout I feel like he's just fucking cuddling but yeah I'm a you know I'm a touchy-feely person I know it's like Jessica and I are both cuddly so we tend to like tend to fall asleep that way, but then in the middle of the night, I guess when we wake up, we're not like that. So I think we start that way and then we wake up a little differently. You know what's more important than how you sleep, especially when you're sleeping with.

Yeah, no. What's more important is how you are when you're awake. That's gonna have a much greater, because here's a deal, when you have good strength and balance and mobility, how you sleep doesn't matter as much. You know what I'm saying? You ever see a kid fall asleep on the floor or on a couch or on wherever,

and they wake up and they're fine? It's not until you're older that you have to have these perfect beds, otherwise you wake up with back pain I was and it's not the sleep. This is the thing people think it's oh, it's this it's sleep That's the problem. It's how I sleep. No, it's you have mobility issues. You didn't sleep wrong You ever do that with people wake up and oh my neck hurts. I must have slept wrong. Yeah, that's because you have mobility issues And so when you're totally relaxed shit gets gets hurt. That that shouldn't happen.

So if you have mobility issues, that's where the focus should be. No, it's a great. It reminds me of this lady that was on Joe Rogan's podcast that was talking about like her whole house is like wood, you know, like she has like a wood bed. Like she has no like comfort, you know, even the chair and the furniture and all seven. The theory there is like, you know, it's chair and the furniture and all stuff. And the theory there is like, you know, like she will adapt to this environment and her body will be in a more optimal position constantly, you know, with her vertebrae and everything else and she's gonna be in great alignment

and she sleeps, it's like all hard. And eventually you sort of adapt to it. But I was like, well, that sucks. Dude, when I first got divorced, I went through this whole, like, minimalist stage where I just didn't want anything. And I slept on a, it's like a, it's a Japanese, like, futon type thing, but it's really, it's only a thin, kind of pillow-looking mattress. It's about that big, so what is that?

What maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe 12 interesting. Did you? And I just put it on the floor. That's about that big. So what is that? What maybe maybe maybe just sleep on a tramping? Did you? And I just put it on the floor. And that's how I slept. So I basically slept on the floor, perfectly fine. It wasn't actually took me a second to get used to. And then I had a really good sleep. And you got to imagine, I mean, humans, what did we sleep on before? You know, hey, and what did we sleep on before that? The ground? I mean, there's really nothing else. I think it's really. Some of my best sleep have been on a mattress like that

or a little cushion like that, we used to have those when we go camping and a sleeping bag out in the stars. You know, there's another factors of that cold air. Yeah. Oh, that makes a big difference. It makes a big difference. I like it free.

Do you guys sleep clothes or naked? Naked. Are you completely naked? Well, so I start off, you just work too short. no, I start off naked, but what's inevitable for me is that I get up in the middle of the night and I will have to go to the bathroom. And then so after I go to the bathroom, I normally put on like, I always keep, by my right by my bed, I have like a drawer that I keep all my like real light, light weight,

like shorts that are almost like boxers. And then I'll put a pair of boxers on I go back to bed because otherwise I feel like I'm sleeping in a big pair underwear You know I'm saying if you go to the bathroom and you go lay in your bed afterwards because it's inevitable with guys You're gonna get a drip out here or there so I don't want to piss all over my bed So so so just leave completely naked otherwise yeah, when I go to bed I'm naked I go to bed naked and then eventually what will happen is I'll have to get up at one talk on the short Yeah, then I'll throw something on and then eventually what will happen is I'll have to get up at one o'clock. Put on the short.

Yeah, then I'll throw something on and then I'll start doing that until we had like until my son woke up and was like choking and I'm like, but naked. You know, I'm like trying to call like 911 and like fireman and everybody are coming. I'm like, oh, Shazard, but so on. So ever since then, I've at least had some boxers on. Yeah, I just I feel a little bit better. Yeah, I like you like a onesie. I know, I sleep in my underwear,

you know, my Italian style underwear. You sleepin' those things? Oh yeah, so restrictive. It's not, it's not. It actually keeps everything secure and safe. You don't let the ball bag kind of breathe, you know what I mean? It's breathable, it's not plastic. I'm not wearing plastic underwear.

But, but no, you know what it is. I don't know what you do in your bedroom when things are out and loose and you're moving around the bed Yeah, you get stimulated on accident You know, I mean then you can't go to sleep because you feel like you rub against me I gotta keep it like god. You're like 17. I keep everything. I want to keep everything nice I'm like excuse. I would have made it 17 years old Like the sheets rub me that I can hard on and I want to sex again Yeah, you don't want to do that. So I just want to do that. But you know, they do studies on that and they find that if you sleep naked or mostly naked, much better sleep. Yeah. Much, much better

quality sleep. Oh, I felt totally thinks so. I can't wear clothes. Cool room. And then a game change of for me was two pillows. I used to when I was a kid, I had one pillow. But if you got any kind of shoulder width whatsoever, one pillow's not going to mean, then your neck's all weird, right? I like the hugging. So you're a side, sleeping though, you're a little more side. I'll do side, yeah, halfway through. See my concern with side sleeping is if we're, if most of us suffer from upper cross

into more shoulders around it forward and you're laying on your side, I would think it's cranking on that shoulder even more and excessively making that worse. I mean, I can see that, but you know, my problem with that is if that's the most comfortable way you sleep and you get the best sleep on. No, no, no, I think that was a great argument you make. I think that's an incredible point of view. If you're getting good sleep that way

and then just because my pump atom says, fucking sleep on your back is better for you and you start doing that and then you're having broken sleep all night. Yeah, sleep Trump, sleep Trump's that. Yeah, you know, it's really good. I dress your mobility in the daytime. You know, it's really good with those big body pillows.

Have you guys seen those? I love those. Yeah, so those are really good. Pregnant women use them a lot, but they're freaking great for everybody. Katrina gives jealous of those. What do you mean? Oh, because you're hugging something else?

Just put her picture on her. Yeah, if it was up to her, I'd cuddle like you. You know, where would I be all spooned up? You don't like to cuddle when you go to sleep? Not at all. I mean, we do. Did you when you first started dating? No, it's always been, no, it's not a like a,

your hair tickles me. I can't handle it. I'm a big guy. I'm hot really easy, so her body heat on me gets me really, really, really quick. So what normally, and I sleep on my back. So typically, how we me gets me really, really, really, really quick. So what normally I nicely buy my back. So typically how we fall asleep is I'm on my back and she normally nustles her, her head into like my, my shoulder and like right here on my chair.

Right. Yeah. She kind of nustles up. Yeah. Yeah. She wants, she wants us touching it all times. So like if there's at one point, she gets off of that, like, I'll scoot to her to where she can feel my arm against her back, or like that. She sleep better feeling me next to her and I sleep better not being close to her. So that's like her compromise. One of my favorites is my leg. Can you feel it?

One of my favorites is one of my kids, but it's just fingers. When they're really, really young and they would, when I'd hold my kids and then they'd sleep on my chest, oh, I used to love, I used to love just fall asleep With that with a little baby on your chest, you know, yeah, yeah, but you don't really get the greatest sleep because you're Frick now fresh them

But it's also such a wonderful feeling to have this little you know Well, I would do that downstairs and in a really nice like rocker chair And I would fall asleep all the time just like rocking my son to sleep You ever fall asleep with both your boys like watching TV or something like that? Yeah, but then they'd punch me or something with me up. So, yeah. That's great.

That's the pleasure of having boys. That's great. Next question is from CCP. Do any of you suffer from road rage? Any crazy stories? Oh my God. Who's most likely to be the road rage? At the moment, now?

Oh, so Doug. Yeah, at the moment now? Yeah, probably Doug or Justin. Right. Yeah, Doug didn't think you'd be that guy. Yeah, I think Doug, I think we've been somewhere or Doug's yelled at somebody in the car. Yeah, that's the only reason why I say that. Yeah, I think we have. I think that it's so it's really rampant. Who would be the comment? Do you think out of all four of us now at this moment? Right now? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know yeah I don't know I don't know I don't know I feel like you had the last moment though didn't you know like the latest one did I maybe you know it's funny I'm so

do I could I could just want to just close a story where you recently fucked snapped on somebody was it because I parked over at Whole Foods at the electric car no no no no you no, you were driving. You were driving. Bro, what about when you and I were driving and there was that, that kid, who was it that rolled up next to us, was all gangster with his grandma in the car? Oh, yeah. Remember when we were looking at, this is when I first got divorced and I was looking at an apartment? Yeah, yeah.

And that kid, some dude just drives by and his grandma's driving. Yeah. And he's in the passenger just fucking mad doggy. And that's looking like a fucking shit. We were both cracking up. I mean, I had my always cracked. I had my fair share as a kid, you know. Yeah, it's such a stupid thing.

It is. I'm so different than I used to be. I used to have bad friends. College, I used to go like crazy. Yeah. So there was a time when I actually like, I saw this guy kind of cutting people off and all that and I looked in the rear view And I literally like instigated this one just because I was like fuck this guy, you know, and so he got behind me

And was like trying to deal as a base of maneuvers and stuff inside break check the hell out of them and then he oh my god He got so mad and then like was like yelling at me and I have rolled my down my window yelling back We got to stop light. He like opens his glove compartment and shows me his gun. Oh my god. Oh shit, and I took a quick right. Like I didn't even know where I was going. I was just like, I'm gone.

Yeah. And then after that I was like, why did I do that again? It's such a dumb thing. I did it all the time and I was a kid. Yeah, I remember I threw my water bottle at someone through the window. I didn't stupid shit at that. It was cool.

Once because we were yelling. one time when I was a kid I got checked myself real hard. I was I was young I must have been about 16 or 17 years old and I had my Toyota pickup that I saved all my money up to buy and I'm driving this thing And I still race anybody anybody who is at the stoplight with me. I'd race them The of course the ironies I have a four cylinder Toyota pickup. So it's like I can beat anybody but whatever I said do it all the time and there was another next to me, and I didn't even look at who the driver was. I just knew the light turned green, so I gun it, and I chirp out a little bit, and then I go in front of them. And you know, you remember what used to do if you beat someone a race, right?

You turn on your hazards. When you're in front of them, do you guys do that? You know, you guys didn't do that? Yeah, you get in front of him. You put the hazards on to kind of show him that, uh-huh, I won, and then you get him a little break check. So I did that, right? And then I never get a bit smiley. Only you used to do that. Maybe that's why you got pissed off.

What is all this display? So then he comes around to try and go in front of me and I speed up to front of me. And I kind of I speed up to not let him. Yeah. And so we do this a little bit back and forth. And then he opens his window and he starts yelling. And I for the first time I looked into the truck. And it was the biggest human being I've ever seen in my entire life. Ever. I had never seen. He stuck his arm out the window because he was yelling. And he had this. He was obviously a bodybuilder obviously a competitive bodybuilder his massive army's rrrr he's like frothing at the mouth

I'm like oh fuck like what's going on I'm gonna fucking kill you so now we're driving fast down Santa Teresa and I'm like I don't know what to do then there was a stoplight and there were cars stopped at the stoplight so I had to stop but luckily I had the foresight to give myself space because I knew I might have to fucking get out of dodge. So I give myself about two or three car lengths between me and the car in front of me. So I stop, he pulls up in front of me and gets out of his car and I'm like, he's a massive human being.

So now I'm yelling out my window, hey man, I'm just a kid. Hey, a fuck, just a kid man. I'll run you over. I'll run you, that's what I can, that's our hotel in our room. I'll run you., I'll run you, that's what I can, that's our telling on road. I'm running you. And he tries to come around my car and I'm backing up

and he grabbed my Rimby, Riveau mirror and he tried to rip it off and then people are like, you weren't calling the cops and you got to, that was the worst road right in your incident. You know what, now that I think about it, I think you definitely lose this one, bro, because you told the story too about your daughter and son being in the car.

So it couldn't have been that long ago. That was a basketball getting thrown against your window. You went out about fucking beat up a bunch of 15 year olds. I did. I did. That was how long ago is that? That was maybe four years ago. Yeah.

So that wasn't even that long. That's right. That's different. No bro. No, no, no. You get a pass. Kids were involved. You get a pass because of your kids, but you still

are more like, look at this. I'll ask just a minute. I'll ask just a minute. Don't try it close. No, no, I'm not trying to close. I just want to say a red. If you feel like your kids are being threatened a little bit, well, that's it.

You all faster than anything else. Well, I mean, I'll give you that. Yeah, it's going to heighten everything for sure. Oh, yeah. But yeah, like I don't, like I wasn't there, so I didn't know the extreme. Like I lost my ship. Yeah, exactly. Like you were about to beat up some things.

It takes a lot now for me to get ramped up. Yeah, for people who don't know what happened, I was driving with my kids and there's these other, this teenager's playing basketball. And as we roll through, they stopped their game. One of them throws the basketball at the window, the rear window where my little daughter was sitting. And she was just, you know, she was like five years old,

maybe four years old. And she's got really frightened and started crying. And I stopped the car and I got this dad rage inside of me. Like, they could have broke the window. Yeah. My daughter's sitting back there. So I fucking flipped the u-wing, the all ran inside. So I grabbed their basketball hoop and I threw that thing

in the middle of the street. That's a big old, yeah. Has an adult embarrassing. I probably would get it though. I would think that, because I have stories that I'm just, I'm not going gonna share on the show Because it doesn't it still get prosecuted well. It just makes me look like a really bad human being So I you know, I definitely was this bad kid. He's definitely through high school and early 20s

Caused a lot of shit been in and to me, maybe this is why and I think maybe I'm arguably the calmest now. I don't think I would, should I just had someone cut me off of the day. I maybe do this, I shrug my shoulders and throw my hands up. Like, hey, what the fuck, man? I kind of do that. I don't flip people off, I don't yell, I don't do any of that shit anymore, but I mean, I have done all of it as far as chasing after

somebody, scaring the fuck out of somebody who did something to me, I mean, ganging up with other people and just going to their house. Like, we've done some fucked up shit, man. And I've been in fights. I think maybe what it is is because I've gone through all that stuff, I kind of want any of that as a, like, you know, or that road leads. Yeah, no, I mean, most of it is kind of how I got

to a really dark place with it. And so I kind of pulled my way out of that mentality, like completely, like I just know like the patterns of that between that or like getting barfights or any of that kind of shit. I just like, you know, don't put myself in situations like that. Most of it has to do with pride. Most of it doesn't have to do with you feel threatening to protect yourself.

Most of it is, yeah, it's you wanted to prove who you're keep going. It is. And I feel like as you get older and more comfortable with your war. The last time. Doesn't bother you. The last time that I almost got into something road rage wise or

anything like that at all had nothing. It wasn't even my fault. It was in my neighborhood. And this was just a few years ago. And I might have shared this on the podcast when the day it happens. I think we were podcasting when this happened. And I was falling this guy through Coyote Creek,

which is just slow parts, all neighborhood. So it's like two miles before you get out, it's like 25, 30 miles an hour. And the guy in front of me is like on his cell phone, and he's driving like five miles an hour. And I'm just like shaking my head, and I'm like, I'm up on him pretty close. And he pulls over, and I'm not mad. I'm just like shaking my head and I'm like I'm up on him pretty close and he pulls

over and I'm not mad. I'm just like come on dude like you know and I'm behind him really close like either pull over or let me buy and I'm not being a dick about it. I'm not flipping them off. I'm not doing anything but he pulls over and he gets out of his car. But I didn't act crazy. I just rolled my window down, hung my heart in my head out my arm out And I said anything like and this is like middle bodybuilding time for me too So I'm weighing like 2.35. I'm on testosterone. I'm like I dare you to come over to my car And see what happens and but the my attitude was so calm that nothing happened You know he got out he got close enough to see the size I was in comparison him And he turned right back around and walked back into his car

But I a lot of it it's a young me would have been out to, I would have met him. You would have got out of this car, I would have got out of my car and then we would have been going in the middle of the street. Even now as an adult, again, that story with my kids, that was more of a protective feeling that I didn't check and control.

But even now as an adult, if it's a pride thing, even if you win a fight, let's say you go out and you're getting a fight and you win, you're still fucking gotten the fight. You still had to like rough someone up. You got your hair messed up, your clothes maybe tore, maybe hurt your hand. You might go to, is it really, it's not worth, you know what I mean? So someone wants to flip me off now and I'm on my own in the car and they're yelling at me.

I don't really care. I don't feel like it's a hassle. I kind of just smile. Like it kind of just makes me laugh a little bit because it's like they're just in a different state. Like they're still like, they still care about that kind of bullshit. You know, like I remember one time this guy

like comes by and he flips me off, oh, fucking man. And I just blew him a kiss. That fucking pissed him off. Of course. You know what, I loved it. I've been in so many fights growing up that whenever I've got my ass beat or handed to me,

it's never by the motherfucker who acts crazy like that. And all the people that I've- So is the call for you, man. All the people that I've fucked up are the mouthy ones, the ones acting all crazy, the ones starting like every one of those fights I whooped a shit out of the dude, every one of them. If I ever got my ass handed to me in a fight,

it was, it was the guy who didn't wanna fight, or the guy who didn't do, it wasn't saying anything, or it was the friend of some guy who wasn't even trying to fucking fight in one on the do with it. Those are the guys, and so I feel like, as I've gotten older, I've become that guy, where it's like, I'm not gonna pick a fight, I don't wanna fight, you don't want me to fight you.

Trust me, I've been enough to know that this is gonna go up those cleats. Yeah, this is not gonna go well for you if we go down this road. And those are the motherfuckers you gotta watch out for. And it's not the crazy mouthy dude. The thing about being in a car too is that a lot of time, it's almost like, you know what reminds me of,

it reminds me of the internet where you have the keyboard warriors who talk shit because they know There's no threat of violence in your car people tend to feel Safe like nothing's gonna happen and so you get way more way more than in the real world I almost never have had in the real world somebody Flip me off and what I mean by real world is outside the car. Yeah, flip me off and talk shit like you're walking to get a Starbucks It's like fuck you man Really no bit boom. Yeah, yeah, nobody does that but they do in the car because the threat of violence is lower because they're safe in their car And you're in your car, right? That I'll tell you what I've had more women lose their shit on me in their cars than men

I've actually I've had more women flip me off in yellow and it's and I'm like this would never have that I would a diamond lane Right, yeah, not that exactly not. That would have been a diamond lane, right? Yeah. Not that exactly. Not that I would ever do anything or anything like that, but I think is, you know, people feel safe. See, on that theory, you pointing that out, it always makes me wonder too, like when we get these people that are like anti-gun, like if we were an anti-gun,

if we were a society that didn't have guns and weapons, like do you think that we would have more of these, more of these situations? Do you think people would be more apt to talk shit and cause issues because of there's no fear of anything lethal potentially happened to the that's a good question it's a very very good question i will say this the amount of guns that exist in america and the fact that violent crime has dropped over the last few decades

it kind of shows that it's not the gun it's the it society. So I don't know, it's very interesting to me. I will say this, what's his name? Robert Obers, who lives out in Texas. He says where he lives, everybody owns a gun. He's like, there's not that much road rage, because I think nobody knows the pattern. And let me tell you, being someone who's been all over the United States, right?

Like, it's one of the most polite states you'll ever go to. Yeah, you're not going to mess with people. Yeah, people, you know, because I have to fucking population is caring. So it's like, yeah, I hold doors open. Yeah, I say thank you and please. Like, it's fucking funny to me. I'm not going to flip someone off.

Yeah, you know, saying like at any time, there's a 50, 50 shot motherfucker has got a gun under that shirt, dude. So it's that threat of violence. Right. So check this out. We have guides that are free. Free.

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