Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 849: Benefits of Mike Mentzer Style Training, How to Eliminate Rancid Farts, the Movement Against Masculinity & MORE

Episode Date: September 1, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about their thoughts on Mike Mentzer��s training philosophy, better alternatives to weight gainer shakes for protein to avoid rancid flatulence, Mike Mentzer’s school of thought and the positive qualities they have picked up from one another since podcasting and working together. Is Adam getting too much of a warm welcome into his new neighborhood? (3:22) Why Sal may be conditioned to dislike small talk. (9:55) How the school setting is not meant for everyone. (12:25) The shock and awe approach. Do the guys get uncomfortable meeting people they know, who listen to the show? (14:40) Sal’s daughter, entering into the entertainment business. (18:00) Felix Gray Glasses made for daytime use to protect your eyes from the "blue screen of death." (19:51) Adam’s famous “red bowl.” How he uses Organifi Protein Powder to add flavor and nutrients to his oatmeal! (29:21) Digestion turbo! Why you should ALWAYS walk after you eat. (31:48) Google Coach: Is Google going to help you lose weight and eat better? (39:12) #Quah question #1 – What are your thoughts on Mike Mentzer’s training philosophy? (51:43) #Quah question #2 – What are better alternatives to weight gainer shakes for protein to avoid rancid flatulence? (1:07:49) #Quah question #3 – What is their take of the movement against masculinity? (1:15:35) #Quah question #4 – What positive qualities have you picked up from one another since podcasting and working together over the years? 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The first question was, what are our thoughts on Mike mencer's school of thought when it comes the lifting Mike mencer bodybuilder from the 70s only Sal is alive He said he said all you need to do is one set super high-intense set per body part And that's all you needed and we debate whether or not that's actually effective the next question was this poor young Lady we feel very sad and very empathetic for her boyfriend's farts are rancid whether or not that's actually effective. The next question was, this poor young lady, we feel very sad and very empathetic for her boyfriend's farts are a rancid. Wow.

They're blowing her away, poor girl. We remember those days. She thinks it's the weight gainers and protein powders she's taking. We talk about why it's probably not a good idea to take protein powders and stuff like that when your farts smell that bad. It's not a good sign.

Next question was, what do we think of the recent movement against masculinity? Controversial alert. It gets a little controversial in that part of the episode. And finally, we end the episode off with some nice positivity. What positive qualities have we picked up from one another since podcasting?

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I go yesterday to this Zenatos, which is, it's right up the street for me. It's right down the road on Foxwood. So it's a butcher or a grocery store? It's a market. It's Willow Glen's classy market. They have the best sandwiches there. Oh, me. Their meat is, I bought a $60 ribeye.

Like buying it from a butcher, that, I mean, it was like a frickin four inch pound and a half. What are the feeding that ribeye? Oh, dude. But our ribeye's double ribeye. But anyways, I walk in the place and. And cannibal ribeye. It's just, I pull one of the parking lot and parking lots

clean. I walk in the grocery store. The grocery store is immaculate. As soon as I walk in, someone who works there greets me and says, hi, you know, and I walk back towards the butcher butcher There's just probably I don't know he's probably about a 60 65 year old black guy named Ernie and I walk up right away And he says hey man, have we met before like as soon as we walked out I said no this is actually my first time here man. I just moved to the neighbor. He's hey I'm Ernie man

I work and he tells me like when he works you're guy. Yeah, totally right I love that and super friendly asked me my name and says, hey, welcome to the neighborhood. Adam gives me a little fist bump. And then, what can I do if you, what can I do you for, man? I'm like, oh, I'm looking for a good ri-bye, man. And he goes, oh, and he starts showing me all the cuts. I closed you. You just commissioned.

Bro. This, just the service, just the service and that I felt and what I keep getting in this neighborhood. So then I go back home, I'm grilling up my steaks. service, just the service that I felt and what I keep getting in this neighborhood. So then I go back home, I'm grilling up my steaks and one of my neighbors walks by, walks up to my, and I have this front patio area. It's really cool. I like it.

It's really roomy and I have a real big table that we can eat outside plus I have like a wicker table, chairs and everything so we can hang out there. It's a really nice little set up in the front. And I grunt grilling out there, the rib eyes, and the neighbor comes walking by and kind of peeks his head over the fence. Hey Adam, how you doing? I feel bad because I, you know, we met the first time for guy's name, you know. He remembers mine real well. So so I feel kind of bad he comes walking over and says hi Just say boss yeah Neighbor, he's up neighbor. Hey champ. That's what I said. Hey, what's up neighbor?

So he's he leans over and he's just he's talking to me and stuff like that I'm out you cooking up and we're top chopping up for a few minutes And he says hey man just to you know, just so you know, we're on a, we're on a kind of a busy area over here. And even though we don't get very many break ins, you know, you might want to get like a little padlock right here because you have some really nice stuff that you have on your patio and you never know. And he goes, you know, I have one. You come check out mine.

If you want to see the one I got, it fits really good on here. And you know, just come by. Just come over my place. Right. Right. And then he's like, oh, yeah, then he's like, it's better, dude. He's like, you know, so the HOA's around here, you know, they're real strict about putting things on your walls with that, but I'll show you where you can hide cameras so that HOA's

don't know there's cameras there for you. And then you can keep it on your stuff. He's like, you know, come check mine out. I'll show you, you know, and I'm like, oh, that's cool. And he says, hey, and then, you know, just any time you got you in Katrina, leave town, just, you know, drop me your number and let me know you guys are leaving and we'll make sure we come by the house and we'll keep an eye on it for you when you're gone and stuff.

And I'm most like, boom. Yeah, dude, just. What if you're in a neighborhood that... Jack the fuck out of it? What if you're in a neighborhood that... Yeah, she really got real nice stuff. Oh yeah. I'm willing to watch your place for a while.

That's the neighborhood of you, Celebine. Yeah, for sure. What if it's a ring of swingers, and they're just warming you got, you know what I mean? Hey, listen, eight. There's another angle. You ever wanna use my stuff, just come all over? And oh, by the way, if you're a fucking white,

you know, wife would be in the house. I guess it's gonna cause it. You might be interested in, open it. There's things in there. They're like warming you up. They had a meeting. We got some new neighbors. They're pretty good looking.

The band rotates. The dude's kind of jacked. They're pretty good looking. Yeah, the band rotates. The dude's kind of jacked, the girl's pretty hot. I think we should, well, what are we gonna do? Okay, give it three months to make them feel at home comfortable, I'll get them drunk. Yeah, yeah. Then you're gonna find out what's really going on. I'm digging it though, man.

I really, that's awesome. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I, It's really cool to live in a, in a neighborhood where people communicate with each other. I'm not, I hate to say it's not like isolated. Like you're actually communicating. Here's what trims. Especially when you have kids, by the way.

I feel really good when that happens. Right, right. So, so, Kim, Katrina and I were walking last night. Well, you know, we'll go out. Last night we were walking at nine o'clock at night. And, you know, what's great is, I don't care if you're walking at nine, 10 o'clock at night or you're walking at five o'clock in the morning

as I've done that already both times and Every time I'm out there. There's at least Five or six neighbors doing the same thing exercising or walking their dogs and they everyone that walks by greets you and everything It's just and what it reminds me I grew up this way. It's been a long time so I moved to the Bay Area when I was 20 and You know I bought my house on East Side, San Jose, which is a little bit rough for a side of town. I lived in a gated community.

Two of my cars got jacked. I've had some issues over there, and there was break ins and things like that, and just neighbors kept to themselves. It was like that. Then I moved to South Side, San Jose with Katrina, and a little bit nicer neighborhood, but still kind of keeps yourself also had a vehicle jacked in front of that house.

And there was break-ins, we had a mail that had been broken into. So also not the nicest of areas either. And when I grew up, I grew up in a very small town, even though it wasn't like a fancy rich neighborhood. It was just small town. And so when you drove by, it's one main street people, you know, you drive by and you people wave out the car

to people, you know, they wave as you drive by another car that you recognize because you see them all the time, they talk in the grocery store. It's just, and I forgot what that was like to feel that way. And it's cool. It's cool. There's downsides to it too, I could see. I could imagine the downside because sometimes it's too nosy. Well, sometimes if I'm walking and then I see the neighbor down there, I'm like, ah,

fuck, he's going to talk to me. Yeah. I got to walk this way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I better pretend I'm walking and then I see the neighbor down there, I'm like, ah fuck he's gonna talk to me Yeah, I gotta walk this way. Yeah, I better pretend like I'm on the phone I know I sound like an asshole or yeah, like I was favors like you know like like Here's the thing like I love my neighbors, and it's great because like we do communicate like that Like you're talking about and it's like I know, you know what you know what's going on in this and that but then sometimes I know too much Yeah, like you see like the cop show up and you're like, wait a minute. Yeah, well, it's one of those things where one of them has a severe depression,

and so it was like trying to hurt himself. And so it's just these things that you don't want to find out the hard way, but there's also times where I'm helping them and building things and doing this. And then it's like, they're helping I, like, they're helping me. So like, you have to reciprocate and- It's funny. You know, my eggs, you know, like, we work hard to have

these stupid eggs. You know what I mean? They're eating your eggs. For me, it's like, I have- I love to myself. I don't like small talk that much, because it feels awkward. So, you know, when you meet someone, like,

when you're neighbors, and, you know, it's gonna be a tip five to 10 minute conversation at the most. Yeah, cuz they're doing something you're doing something And so it's that five minute like small talk and I'm not I don't like small talk I don't know what to say like yeah, yeah, so what's going on? Would you know? You know like I'm working a lot and you know, I just want to be like hey, man What do you think the universe is like do you think it's like? Like you know, I can't do that in five minutes. I'm just like okay I don't know.

I'm overhanging my study. You may have been conditioned the other way because this is what I would I notice and just need to notice the transition that I'm going through right now because I grew up in it for the first 20 years of my life. Then the last 15 years of my life, I've the other side of it.

And now I've kind of unbacked to this kind of community feeling. And I've actually, I've caught myself, like when I first got there, like, you know, I would do normally me. I'd walk by someone who's walking by and just, I would be looking at my phone or kind of like, giving the head nod, maybe that. Yeah, maybe that or what, that where, you know, I was like, oh shit, like these people all, like,

make eye contact, they all acknowledge that I'm walking by and say hi, good evening, good morning, things like that. And I've had to retrain myself to be that guy because I've conditioned myself to be kind of like, how you are, just like, I don't want to get into small talk, I just keep going, type of deal. But I feel this sense of community in the area. And I appreciate it.

It feels awkward. I feel weird. So you want to contribute to it because, you know, it is a good thing. You know, like you're kind of reserved still. I want to do It feels awkward. I feel weird. So you want to contribute to it because, you know, it is a good thing. You know, like you're kind of reserved still. I think you're on thing. I'm just, you know, when I say that, that's me personally, but because I have kids,

I do appreciate knowing people, and knowing people around me. Right. I like that because then you feel, you feel a little safer. I don't know if it's real, you know, real more safety, but you definitely feel safer.

Well, it is. I mean, we had break-ins from, like, well, the thing is where I live, there's a lot of like vacation homes. And so there's open like cabins. And so you'll see every now and then like, like smoke coming out of one of the squatter. Yeah, like a squatter. So like, a homeless person will come through and like, they'll find it. And so we actually put the smack down on that and like, my next neighbor, like, was like,

hey, I see smoke and like, come with me. And like, we're grabbing like bats. It's for us. Yeah. And I'm like, going in there, he's like, I need your muscle. This and that, like, all right. May Justin's day.

Oh my God. I'll be the enforcer. Yeah, exactly this. Yeah, I love it. Yes, yesterday I went to my son's, they have like an open house where you sit down and you hear the teachers talking all that stuff. And so I go in there and my ex was at a town.

She was at a town this whole last week and so I was there by myself. And it reminds me of why I disliked school so much. Nothing, the teachers are great, everybody's nice, nothing wrong with any stuff. But the sitting down in the classroom, and hearing the person or the teacher talk, and she's got like a slide type of thing,

and she's talking about, this is what we're doing here, and this is what we're doing there, and I'm fighting to focus. I'm like, I find myself thinking about the business, or my workout, or something else.'m like, I find myself thinking about the business or my workout or something else. Oh shit, I gotta pay attention because this may be something I need to remember. And it just reminds me of that whole...

Bro, I can't imagine you in that setting. You can't sit fucking 10 minutes in one of our meetings. Drives me fucking crazy. That's hard. Yeah, it's hard for me not to get mad. Because I'm just like, that's a salad. It's like fucking, I can't, I'm just... If I get up and move, I can do it. I can pay attention to get mad because I'm just like that's a salad. It's like fuck I can't I'm just if I get up and move I can I can do it I can pay attention

It's so distracting when you do that though because everybody else is focused on the meeting Then you see this guy get up and he's fucking stretching in the middle of a conversation He's like Jesus, but you can't even sit in one of our means. I can't imagine school on a subject that you're in at least this business You're interested in where school I'm talking and conversing, it's fine. No, yeah, it's when I hear the, you know, and God bless Casey, love Casey to death. He will talk about a subject for a long time. Yeah, he'll go on for a long time. And then I'll start to lose my focus

so that's when I stand up. And so I remember that. I remember how, you know, what it was like and I'm sitting and I'm like, oh, yeah. That's the entire school. Yeah, a career for me. It's funny though, one of the dads, he's probably listening right now,

so give him a shout out, but one of the dads, whose his son is my son's friend, he comes up to me and we're sitting in the beginning of this whole thing and he goes, hey man, he goes, how did that all day work out come out? And I'm looking, and it didn't register, you know, I looked at him like, how'd you know I did that? It's like, why listen to your show?

I was like, oh shit, he listens to our show. And then I thought about all the shit that I've said on the show, I'm like, oh fuck. That's the parents of the kids, that, you know, that like kid take out with me. Whatever. Whatever it's good times. But you do have first get a little bit like.

A little bit of panic, you know, when people say that, like, oh yeah, I listened to this and that, and the other, like, oh wow. It's real. I used to feel that way at the beginning, but not so much now because I feel like the show's really evolved. We found a way, and I'm really glad we did find a way

to still have fun, cut loose and not censor. But then, I think there was a lot of nerves at the beginning of the show, like when we first started because we didn't know what the fuck we're doing or what you know what it is. What it is now is we're challenging each other to be ridiculous. Well, that for sure, but even now sometimes we go off and what it is is, you know, there's people that you're you're not super close with. You're just friends with through either through school or through whatever. And so the version of you that they see is that version. The Vajazzle.

You know, that's what I'm saying, though, is like we've moved away from things that are like so, but it was like the Shakenaw approach. I mean, it was part of the strategy when we first started was we were gonna have all this great information, but then we were also gonna be out, just totally outlandish over some. Yeah, but I mean, think of all the people that you know,

that know this side of you that deep, and they just don't because you don't have that close to relationship. So it's automatically, it's, look at, sometimes they get uncomfortable even when it's someone I don't know who recognizes me because they know way more about me than I know about them. And you can feel that.

You can feel it when you talk to them like, oh, they feel like they know me. And they kind of do. They've heard me for, you know, 40, 50, 100 hours or whatever. So it's just an interesting feeling, but then to add on top of that, you know, at someone I didn't expect, you know, to listen to the show, so I feel a little bit like that.

So what's interesting, like, so at your kid's school, do they have like, like an app that, yeah, so like I just downloaded this first time is happened because it didn't happen with my oldest But my youngest he's in kindergarten and like I have an app to keep track of like all his behavior like all of his assignments Like communicate with the teacher like real time. It's like wow that's cool Yeah, I was like so transparent. It's crazy. It takes helicopter parenting to the whole it's almost yeah I was like oh wow like I mean I like it. I appreciate it But the sense I'm like he's in kindergarten. What am I gonna like he's like pasting stuff?

What yeah, no, but I guess I mean it's cool like if you all certainly for example like let's say you know Home life like then this wouldn't be common for you guys because you guys have a really incredible relationships with your partners. But imagine if you were a parent and you were having a rough time with your partner or going through something and you have a kid in kindergarten and then you notice that he's acting out.

Absolutely. I mean, I could see that being a huge tool of like, oh shit, like what a great reflection. Hopefully most parents are aware like this. You know, I know there's a lot that are not, but you know, they have the smarts to realize like, oh shit, my bad behavior and my poor relationship with my spouse at home is affecting my kidney gardener and his, you know, pasting skills.

Instead of pasting, he's fighting or he's poking people with his or her, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like yelling or something. Right, right. skills instead of pasting he's fighting or he's poking people in the corner. Yeah, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like yelling or something. Right, right. So I mean, wow, what a cool, but you're right though. So I could also see the other side of that, the extreme side of taking a parent that's already a helicopter parent and just taking a whole bunch of things.

Yeah, to me, I'm just like, I like that I have it, but I don't like, yeah, I'm not like obsessed looking at it. Oh, I told you guys, my, for it to you guys, you know how I told you guys my daughter was auditioning for the play at school. Yeah, it's a short, it's web. Yes, yes. So she did it. She got the starring role, bro.

She's Wilbur. Oh, really? Yeah. So she's going to be the pig. That's amazing. Yeah, that talks to the spider or whatever. So I go to pick her up afterwards. Now was she excited?

Was that something that happened that she wanted that? She wanted that part. Okay, but she's in, you know, she's in third grade and there's all the way up to six, I think sixth grade that does all the audition. Oh wow. And so you're gonna get into like entertainment. Bro, she loves it. She loves it. I told her, when she came out of the classroom, I could see the look on her face and she was kind of like, she was happy, but you could tell she was thinking her head, like, I'm gonna do this, you know?

So I'm like, so what's going on? What's your part? And she like hands me the paper and I see Wilbur, and I'm like, and then all these parents are like, oh my God, congratulations, your daughter is whatever. So we got on the phone with my ex, so I could tell my ex, so she could tell her mom what she did. And I'm like, aren't, are you nervous?

Are you scared? She goes, no, I'm so excited. I can't wait to do this. So, so crazy. I would have never, I would have never done that at that age. To get on stage like that, I would have been afraid. It seems like a natural fit. Yeah, and then they have the, all the rehearsals

and they'll tell, they'll say which parts need to rehearse. And she's obviously going to be rehearsing every single time there's a rehearsal because she's one of the main, so she has to memorize a shit ton of lines. Yeah, that's a big deal. It is. At that young age already.

It is. She likes it. Apparently she likes doing that kind of stuff. It's kind of cool. You know what I mean? Yeah. And the fact that we have a media company's kind of interesting. So, you know, maybe later on,

she could, I don't know, we'll see what happens. No, this thing's got to evolve sooner or later. Like I said, we're building our staff. You tell our stories for us. You're gonna have some kids at them. We won't need to hire anyone. Oh, come on man. We won't need to hire anyone. No, come on man.

We'll be all set dude. Anyway. So what do you think of the glasses at Adam and I? I think you guys are, I mean you look like nerds but like intelligent, you know, like sophisticated. Bro, I'm a little jealous actually, I'm not wearing mine so, you know, I'm in love with them dude and I'll tell you why. So I remember when we were first addressing the sleep thing and I've been aware of blue blockers for a long time.

I've just not been a fan of the dorky orange classes, right? And I was like, all right, well, fuck it. I can at least wear them at night when I'm in bed and start disciplined myself if I'm on the computer and so that. And I bought a pair, you know, this was last year sometime and I got them by the bed. And for a little while, I was using the thing that started to really drive me crazy was, you know, one of the things that Katrina and I do a lot of times around nine, 10 o'clock

we unwind and we watch a couple of our favorite Netflix shows and we fall asleep. And the orange glasses turn the screen, all fucking weird colors. And so it just, and I did it a few times, but I was like, man, this sucks. You're ruined experience of watching a show. It's like being colorblind watching show. I can imagine what that, what that feels like, especially being someone who had, could see color and then you don't. So it started above the shit out of me.

And so then I'd be really inconsistent with wearing them. And so I was like, whatever. Well, then the Felix Gray relationship happens. Well, Taylor starts talking to them and he shows me the brand and I'm like, okay, this is really cool. And they actually don't have the amber lens. And I remember the first time I tried them on

and I was like, well, I don't know because I don't get as tired. Like when I wear the amber ones after about an hour wearing them, I get tired. I can feel myself actually wind down and I wasn't feeling that with the Felix Gray. So I kind of was under the impression that these just don't work as well.

Yeah. And so I was using them for the same exact purposes. Right. But then I find out that it's different. That's why. They're made for daytime use. Yes. And they're made for daytime use. Yes. And they're made to protect,

because you guys saw that study that came out, right? That showed how blue light is basically just damaging to guys. Here's something else that. They're still trying to get a handle on them. Well, here's something else that we learned that, as you age, your eyes develop a pigment that helps protect them against blue light a little bit.

But that doesn't happen until you're around 40. So when you're a kid, especially when you're young or a young adult, you don't really have too much protection and blue light causes damage. They were showing that blue light pretty much at any level can cause damage to the eyes. So these Phelix gray glasses are made for daytime use, especially if your job includes Computer and phone right and now so the part that I found interesting was it Correct me for a while, but I think she said that it blocks like 90% of the the high blue light Which is what we get from the high energy blue light? Yeah, high energy blue light

Which is what we get from the phones and the computer screens and TVs, but not so much from the sun, right? So you're still absorbing some of the blue light from the sun, but then when you have these computer, which this is what I really wanted for, it's because I'm on the computer, that's what I'm on the computer late at night. And that wouldn't allow me to wind down.

I would definitely be, I would work for two, three hours sitting there looking, especially looking at numbers and shit, dude. Yeah, what's interesting is I always attributed that to like my prescription because I have to have like reading glasses for just specifically screens because my eyes would hurt and I get headaches and that was a real issue of mine.

So I'm actually really excited to try. They actually have like reading glasses with like the blue light block, I guess as an option as well, I didn't know that. So I'm trying to get those, but I was initially using them wrong too. So I was wearing the Felix Crazes, I was like reading, you know, paper like old school,

like books, you know, and like now I'm like, oh, okay, so after, you know, that conversation with the CEO, it's like, okay, you know, and like now I'm like, oh, okay. So after, you know, that conversation with the CEO, it's like, okay, you know, I'm gonna use it every time I'm using my phone, because I'm always on the phone, it's been affecting. Well, so here's the thing. So I pulled up the study, it was from the scientists of the University of Toledo, and they figured out

how blue light can lead to macular degeneration, permanent eye damage. And so what they found with the study is, so there's these, what do they call retinal, which is produced by the eye, and it's triggered by blue light, and it causes all these chemical reactions, and they can be poisonous to the photoreceptor cell molecules that, and then they get damaged,

and they don't regenerate. And, you know, we're in a period of time, by the way, macular degeneration's on the rise, molecules that, and then they get damaged and they don't regenerate. And we're in a period of time, by the way, macular degeneration is on the rise and it makes sense why we are in front of these electronic screens way more than ever. And not only that, but at younger ages. Well, this is, this goes back. We just had an episode recently where I kind of went on my rant of you know I think we're in we're in for it in the next 10 years on this thing what we're gonna see with these kids and some of the the backlash from the

And I was speaking more towards the posture, but this is another one like you know What kind of damage are they gonna do their eyes being staring at screens for it? We don't we don't have something like that where someone actually spent this much time at screens for it. We don't have something with that. We're someone actually spent this much time staring at computer screens for 20, 30 years of their life and then doing it at such a young age. Yeah, all day. That's it. They consider this. If you have a kid, if you have children today, right, forget playing on computers and iPhones because they do a lot of that too. But even if they just do their homework, they're going to be, when I was a kid, I was never in front of a computer because nobody had computers,

and you didn't do your homework on a computer, it didn't happen until I got into height, like later on in high school. But kids today, even my third grader, she's gonna do homework and she does it on a computer, then of course they play on their phones or whatever, and of course as adults, the vast majority of jobs today include looking at these electronic

screens for a majority of the day. And if you don't, you still have a phone and you look at it all day. And so how do you protect your eyes against that? And yes, you can wear the amber colored glasses that do that. But then it does. It changes everything different. And you're wearing orange glasses. The Felix Gay Grey glasses are clear.

And they block 90% of this what they call high energy blue light. And then they also, the company places a lot of time and energy and making them look good. And so now you work glasses all day to protect yourself. It's also interesting for me to think because I remember, like, we'll listen to somebody talk like Dr. Mercola and they have like, and they have all these things that they're super concerned with, like even like Wi-Fi and blue light. And I'm like, okay, well, yeah, maybe.

But how much is that really affecting you? But now you think about kids that are growing up with, we were never exposed to that much time with these new things, and this new technology, and these new potential, whatever they're doing to us. We haven't been around it as long, and so they're growing up with that. The amount of exposure is going to be really alarming.

Well here's the side effects of what Blue Light can do. Most people feel, most people know, you sit in front of a computer too long on your phone, you get headaches, eyes start to feel a little blurry, you start to feel fatigued, those are all the symptoms of ice strain that's happening from looking at these screens. And it was Adam that convinced me to wear them all day because we got the glasses and I was just wearing them at night, like you did originally.

And then you start wearing them to the day and you're like, dude, I don't get headaches anymore. So I remember you used to get a headache all the time when you were on your phone. What I noticed, and I made this connection, maybe, I don't know, I wanna say it was like, and I think I mentioned it on the podcast, it was like a good three, maybe six months ago,

when we were getting into the long fast, and I did a long, I did one of those 48 hour plus fast, and not only did I not, because it was on a weekend, so I didn't work that weekend on the computer, I didn't eat any food, and then when I reintroduced food and I went back to like working on my computer, I was super sensitive. I was on the computer for only like an hour,

which is like nothing, I can spend, I can spend, and I had this fucking massive headache, and then I did again, I still had one, but it was less of a headache, and then, then when I noticed, I was like, of course, a kid stopped working. I'm still working on my phone, so we're going on my computer. Sure, my body started to adapt to it.

And the headaches started to subside, but the fact that it caused a headache because I was so sensitive, because I was fasted like that, and I hadn't been on my computer screen, this kind of light bulb went off for me. Like, I wonder what I'm doing to my body. A blue light bulb?

Yeah, I wonder what I'm doing to my body a blue light bulb Yeah, I wonder what I'm what I'm what I'm doing to my body for For it to give me that response initially and then because I keep forcing you know the staring at the screen that eventually It is adapts like that can't be good and that was kind of like the first the first time Well, I so I'm warm now if I'm on the computer and then I got some for my kids and they they you know And they don't have the kid sizes yet, but I got the regular size is fine And I tell them put these on if you if I'm on the computer and then I got some for my kids and they don't have the kid sizes yet, but I got the regular sizes fine. And I tell them, put these on if you're gonna work on the computer.

But you know what else is interesting about that is the stigma around glasses in general has changed so much from when we were kids. When I was a kid, if you were glasses all the time. Yeah, and you can get picked on or whatever. Now people wear glasses just because they look cool. I mean, even I put them on and I'm walking around

and everybody's like, oh man, this look really good. You look good in those. I'm like, man, back in the day, you didn't want to wear glasses. You know what I'm saying? It's so different. Adam, tell me about your InstaStory massive bowl of oatmeal and how that's gonna help you win this contest.

That's actually the first bowl of oatmeal that I've had in probably. Did that wasn't that a bowl? That was like a punch bowl of oatmeal. It's my red bowl, that's the famous red bowl. How much oatmeal was in that? No, how much? It was one cup of oatmeal.

Now you measure one cup dry. Yeah, one cup dry. So what is that, 60 grams of carbs? No, more than that, 70. It's like, what, 28 and 28, so what is it, 56? Okay, so 56? Yeah, 56? Oh, okay, so 56. Yeah, so somewhere around there, give or take. But then I actually do blueberries, strawberries,

and then I have the vanilla organifi protein that I put in there. It's good with oatmeal, right? Yeah, well, you get kind of that, because without it, oatmeal can be very plain. So in this, I gave it a little more flavor. Well, this was a bodybuilding thing, even before we were sponsored by organifi. Apparently they've been mixing oatmeal protein forever. Oh,

for. I wasn't aware of. Oh, forever. I've been doing I was doing this a long time ago. Um, and like I said long before organified came along and became our sponsor, I was doing this because what I put together a long time ago was, you know, when you when I make the oatmeal, it can be plain and dry. You had a little bit of fruit and you add a protein powder that has flavor to it, vanilla, chocolate, whatever, and you stir it in there. And then now the oatmeal tastes amazing. And then oatmeal's obviously you're not getting any protein

from that, so I kicked the protein up with the protein powder for more granify and then I do the three eggs. And so now I have a decent meal full of protein. Now, I hadn't done oatmeal though in a long time. The reason why I did it was I just went, I did it a carnivore day yesterday. What did you wait, just me?

I didn't eat all day long and then I had a one and a half pound ribeye. I saw that but you had veggies too though. Spent it. So, yeah, well, I shouldn't say carnivore day. So I had, I had a, Dude, you're doing your own ribeye. I. Correction. You're right. You're right. You're carnivore police. Sorry. And I had butter. So I had only had 2000 calories the entire day. And basically what I did was fasted, right? So I did the night before. I think my last meal was at

like six. And so I did about 24 hour fast because I didn't, I think I ate about 6.30 or seven last night. And I had this, I cooked those big-ass rib eyes. And mine was I think 1.6 pounds. All at once? Yeah. How do you digest that much meat at once, okay? I did, although I, so I also went for a walk

with Katrina last week. Dude, walking after you eat is like, digestion turbo. It's for sure. It's been like, I've said this in the show many times, you talk about like little staple hacks that I've done now as an adult that I didn't do before, that I've like forever teach every person

that I try and help with health and fitness. And just teaching yourself to go for a fucking 20-minute stroll after you eat, especially a big meal, like that, especially a big meal. Like, if you eat a light, healthy, balanced meal, not that it's not important or won't help, it still absolutely will, but it's like, if we go out to dinner, like we go out to a restaurant, or I eat something that's heavy like that, where I'm pounding 1500 to 2000 calories in one meal, 100%. Well, when you walk, first off, gravity helps you digest.

That's why your mouth is at the top and your butt is at the bottom. It goes downward with gravity. It's also why astronauts often have digestive issues in zero gravity. This is a big thing that people don't know about. But so you're standing first off because a lot of people would do

after they'd big meal, they sit or lay down, terrible for digestion. Now your body has to work against gravity, you're not working with it. The second thing is every step that you take, the jostling of movement and the muscles that pass through the body, which are the hip flexors primarily,

because the hip flexors, especially one of the main ones, the so-as, goes through the body and is surrounded by your intestines, your digestive system. So every time you step, you're literally massaging food down and into the intestines and helping it get digested. And so, like, for example, Jessica right now has been lately, we're trying to figure out what's going on. She's lately been suffering from a little, a little acid reflux, which she's never really had before.

But if she walks after she eats, she doesn't get it. And so that's what she's been doing so far as a very simple, you know, treatment for that particular symptom. So it's, it's a game changer. It's a game changer for me. And I also noticed too that it promotes better habits after that. So like you said, very, very common thing for most of my life I used to do, which is eat a big dinner, plop down on the couch, put my favorite show or movie on and relax and then veg out for the rest of the night, where now when I go for the walk, that only does it digest really well. I burn some calories, I feel 10 times better.

Then when I come back home, I'm more active. Like I'm more likely I'm gonna do the dishes or go work on a project or do something else besides just calling it a night because I'm still feeling good. The other thing too is, what do they call it post-prandial? I think it's a name, is that what it's called Doug post-prandial, meal or walk, I don't know, activity.

There's a term for moving after you eat, but when you move before you eat or after you eat, so let's say you work out and eat, or you walk after you eat, both of those significantly improve insulin sensitivity. So, and one of the biggest problems with chronic health problems that we have in modern societies is, insensitivity to insulin,

which turns into diabetes and other problems. And even before it becomes diabetes, it causes problems. Well, if you move afterwards, and here's the thing, I think a lot of people might be thinking like you're working out. No, no, it's a stroll. It's just going for a nice stroll outside. That's all you got to do and you increased your body's ability to utilize those carbohydrates

and proteins and even fats better. So it's not just better for digestion, which is better for your health, but it's also better for your health because you're making your body more sensitive to insulin when you need it to be because you're actually, the insulin now is spike. That's what happens post, post meal. It's almost guaranteed, I'm getting late that night too. I mean, it's a perfect time for, yeah, no. It's a perfect time for me to connect with my partner.

Oh, I see. I mean, that has been like, then you don't feel all bloated and gassy all the time. Yeah, yeah, no, right. I mean, I guarantee someone's had a wife or a spouse or whatever that it's never sexy. That's been, that's like opted out of sex because they feel like they have a rock in their stomach, right?

Nobody wants to have sex after having two pounds of steak right before. I mean, Justin may want to. I make it happen. Yeah, but I mean, when we go for a long time here, this has been, it's been like this double hack for me. It's like the hack for the nutrition and the health benefits and the digestive system, like that's a no-brainer.

But then it's also been the second hack of, you know, what a great time for me to leave my phone at home, walk with my partner. It's only 20, 30 minutes. Maybe every once in a while we stroll for an hour if like we're really in a deep conversation or just feeling like it. But you know, it's normally a 23 and we have this opportunity to download each other on their day and connect to each other, which it just seamlessly works right into the bedroom when we come home because we've got home, we're all, you know, wired from work, our minds are

all over the place, stressed out, whatever like that. Then we have a nice good dinner together and then we go and we break for this nice little walk and while we're walking, you know, this is a time for us to reconnect and then that's the natural transition to back to the bedroom and stuff. It's a staple in many cultures. In many cultures, the after meal walk is something that is just practiced by a lot of people. I know in my family, after eating and walking, it's a big deal. It's what we tend to do. You know, me and my dad will go for a walk and have conversation or whatever.

And they've always said it. Ever since I was a kid, the way they've said it is, let's go walk because it'll help our digestion. And when you're a kid, you don't get it. Why the hell adults are so preoccupied with digestion. I used to think that was so funny. But it's very true. It's very, very true.

And again, when you see things that are part of cultures for long periods of time, and when they're a part of multiple cultures that really don't have any communication with each other, then you know that there's probably something to it. And, you know, again, I don't remember that there's a term for it, but it's post-meal walking. I talk about it like crazy now, just because I know I laughed about it as a trainer early on. So I feel like, I feel this, I feel it's necessary that I explain it I laughed about it as a trainer early on. So I feel like I feel this,

I feel necessary that I explain it and talk about it so much because if you, I feel bad, man, when I was in my 20 to 25, if I was training a client and they brought up walking or talking about walking. Yeah, waste of time. Yeah, waste of time. You need to be the gym. You need to be living weights. You need to be running. You need to be doing this. Like the thought process was just so different. And that's just because my mind wasn't there, was it mature, wasn't old enough? I hadn't experienced enough.

And now when I didn't teach it, right, right, you exactly, I would go and talk, obviously, I was a smart enough kid then that if I had me telling me that, like, oh, okay, that makes sense, I can connect that and I can help people out. That's every old client ever had loved

to tell him about, like like how they pood. Where are we? Like it's, yeah. Like they just love to talk about, oh today was so, you know, difficult and it's true. It was really struggling. It's true. Like, oh my God. My grandfather, if you felt anything other than good,

his cure was that you need to go take a poop. You would always say, like no matter what, what's the matter, how you feel? Oh my, my knee hurts a little bit. You know that you need to go take a poop. You would always say no matter what like what's the matter? How you feeling? Oh my my knee hurts a little bit. You know you need you need to go take a nice nice poop My knee hurts the fuck you talking about no, no, you take a nice poopy feel better I'll do some coffee and you know what boom, you know what though it makes sense because if my knee hurt and I went and took a good Poop I still would feel better. Yeah, I still will feel better So you guys hear about this it is post-pran deal, by the way. Pran deal.

Pran deal. Yep. So did you guys hear about Google and what they're doing right now? Yeah, yeah, the personal trainers. Well, so. I'm sure it's going to be super accurate. They're calling it Google Coach and it's a Google Wellness product powered by artificial intelligence.

Now here's, you know, here's a thing with this kind of stuff. Is it going to make a huge dent? I don't know. Google's got a shit ton of money, and their AI is pretty fascinating. But if it doesn't really impact the industry now, I think it will, as it gets better and better, right over time.

But I was reading about what some of the stuff that it's supposedly going to do. It's going to be proactive, so it's going to be informed by your calendar appointments, reminders, log activities. If you skip a gym day, it'll kind of tell you to go to the gym. If you're falling short of your fitness goals, it'll suggest workouts and routines that will help you do it. It's also going to track nutrition, the foods you consume, and use other signals like your location, so like where you're at, to make recommendations.

Then when you're at a restaurant, it'll point you towards healthier menu options. I'll help you with grocery shopping. It'll email you weekly meal plans that are personalized to your schedule. I saw this with Neatrino, and he was like showing me what they're working on.

This has all been in the works with a lot of different companies. I think that now Google like really incorporating this and trying to tackle it is gonna, that's actually gonna be something substantial for sure. Dude, it's gonna be pretty crazy. Listen, there's no doubt in my mind that this is the future of where fitness will go and it's also why we did what we did.

I mean, I mean, the trainers that are, we're still working in the gym, you know, the normal nine to five, train your eight clients. And, you know, I just, I did not see that around in 10 years, man. I mean, we were so behind, we saw tech move, and we're in the Silicon Valley, so of course we see things accelerate a little bit faster than probably the rest of the country. And we were watching and training all these clients and seeing all this technology just continue in all these industries accelerating in this type of stuff, right? And I was seeing fitness not change. Like, we weren't changing anything. Like we were the model of how we did everything

was the same when I started to 15 years later. And I knew that we had to move into this digital space. And I'm fucking pumped to be positioning ourselves, the way we're positioning ourselves with things like this. Because Google is gonna do a great job of figuring out all the algorithms and how the back end all works like that But I guarantee they're gonna need guys and people like us always to make that connection and the human element to it

Absolutely, that's where that's where I know a lot of trainers are going like oh, it'll never work Well, I don't think it'll never work. I wouldn't count Google out They're gonna start with all the standards, right? Like and they have like generic, you know like start with all the standards, right? Like, and they have like generic, you know, like, benchmarks and advice and they're going off of like, you know, whatever data that they have to go off of, they don't know like how to discern, you know, the individual like at that point,

like they need a lot more coaching and maybe when they start like tracking the coaches, like answer everything for everybody and like intelligently, it'll start to get the direction. Well, think about this, imagine if you're a client, and the challenges that clients have, especially with nutrition, because that's where I think the greatest applications can be with nutrition.

And let's say you, with your Google AI, you enter in your target calories and your macros, or proteins, fats, and carbohydrates. And because it tracks what you eat and what you will, whatever, it knows the foods you tend to like to eat and the foods you don't tend to like to eat. And you have your first meal and you just eat whatever you want.

Now it knows what is left over. And it can make suggestions and say, hey, for lunch, we suggest four ounces of chicken, you know, one cup of rice, whatever. It's going to make suggestion or it's going to show you at a restaurant. It knows what your targets are. They'll say, hey, this meal fits your targets. We suggest you eat this meal.

That's fucking brilliant because one of the biggest challenges with nutrition is, what do I eat? How often do we get that? What do I eat? Tell me what to eat. I don't know what to eat. You got to teach me how to count, I had to track, whatever. imagine if you could just go to a restaurant or based on your location like it said You know, I I enter into my phone. I want to go to lunch

Where should I go it knows what your macros are what you wait? It already has it already aggregates all the data from the restaurants around you Because it'll be easy for the do I've seen that and I see that in new Tr Trinos platform where they had like I'm paleo, right? I'm paleo so like based off of the menu like in the surrounding area It could like give you like those specific items that you might want to focus on so but knows your mad door dash You know available so they don't even have to go there. You just order it. You know through door Dora because one of the one of the like you know You have the meal delivery services or back in the day, right? It was Jenny Craig and whatever, and you buy their meals and you lose weight.

But then it sucks because there's no variety, you have to always buy their meals, and you're not set up for the real world where, in the real world, there's about a million and one decisions you can make when it comes to food. And for somebody, and I know this, when I train clients, it's the most difficult thing to coach. It's like, you have to teach them how to make those decisions

and navigate the food market based on their goals, And I know this is when I train clients, it's the most difficult thing to coach. It's like you have to teach them how to make those decisions and navigate the food market based on their goals, their bodies, and what's around them. You have to coach them on how to navigate that. Well, imagine if you have something that knows what your targets are, it knows what's around you. And it'll literally show you the meals that will work for what your targets are, knowing what you already ate.

And it could say, you know, like it knows you ate breakfast and lunch, now you have this many grams of protein, fat and carbs left. It'll say, here's the meal we recommend from Taco Bell or whatever, like how much, how easy could that be? No, I think it's, I mean, I'm a, you know me, I'm Mr. Tool guy, right? I love all these tools.

I think it's more, more of Mr. Tool. Yeah. Kind of random tool mantel. You know, I'm just's more, more of Mr. Tool. Kind of Adam the Tool Man Taylor. You know, I'm just, I like all of them. I'm rocking my Fitbit. I use, I use my fat secret on a regular basis. I mean, these things, I mean, it is. And that's how I use it is just a collection of data. And that because here's the thing, at the end of the day, you still have to make the

choice to not eat that fucking. Of course. Because, and let me tell you, I know all the science. I got all the tools. It's still hard. It's still geared towards the nerds who care. Right. You know, like it's not geared towards your average person

that just struggles on a day-to-day basis. You know what though? I'm gonna tell you something right now. So how often do you use voice activated stuff on your computer phone and TV? Yeah. How often do you use it? Oh, I use voice activated stuff all the computer phone and TV. How often do you use it? I use voice activates of all the time.

You do? Okay, so I use it sometimes also, and our generation tends to use it sometimes. My kids, 100% of it's like all the time. Yeah, so the generation coming up, they don't have a problem with this technology and the way they use it, whatever. People are age and stuff.

It takes us a second to get, so my prediction is this first rendition, it might go well and might not. I think this is just a sign of what's gonna happen. 10, 15 years from now, I think it'll be the north. To me, it's exciting because big players are starting to give a shit about health and fitness. Like Google, like Apple,

them have been flirting with it and like having, you know, like, like ways to basically aggregate. Like so if I have tools, it's trying to put it all in its own little kit, its own little platform where you can like reference it, but they haven't really like dove into, you know, this industry. And once tech really decides like,

oh, okay, you know, this is valuable. Like they've, there's a lot like moving as far as digital health, but it's mainly on, you know, a lot of startups around like medicine and, you know, ways to innovate and, and, you know, provide medicine and be able to deliver it. And, you know, like get, like, like a patient to doctor relations and all that established on confidential levels. But, you know, we haven't really like, they haven't even really tapped fitness yet. It's gonna be a big, it's gonna be a big rate. The question is, when you talk about Apple like that, is that by design? Like did Apple do that intentionally?

I'm sure. That's their strategy and everything else. They pretty much let somebody else go do it first. They're like, everybody innovate and then they bring in the big money, the big guns and they come in and they do that. Best engineers. Yeah.

So I wouldn't sleep on Apple at all. And I wouldn't sleep on Amazon either. I wouldn't sleep on any of these monsters. Well, the big four, I tell you what, the watch, the watch is a big advantage, man, because you wear it all the time. And that thing has the most potential tools that will be accessible on all the things. Well, Amazon speaking of Amazon, they came out with their own supplement line.

Did you see this? They now have. Oh, really? Yeah. Amazon, and you saw that coming because what, three years ago now, it's been three, maybe even four years, they started streaming the... Olympia? The Olympia.

I think it was two or three years ago. Yeah, it's something that's been released that. Yeah, now everybody buys supplements on Amazon Well, it's just backdoored the fuck If your Amazon is like for good bodybuilding.com with their pants down right there Well, if your Amazon sure come on in there It's streamer our our main source of income Everybody buys on our side. They're screwed because if your Amazon. I would love to be in the book

I would love it I would love to be in the boardroom for that, when that went down, like whoever's on top of bodybuilding.com, that gave that approval of like, hey, this would be a good idea to get it more exposure. Let's go ahead and let Amazon stream our bodybuilding.com. That had been one of the dumbest decisions ever. Well, no, now we're gonna take all your fucking money

by fucking selling the same supplements. Well, the supplement industries worth how many billions of dollars, how many hundreds of millions of dollars does Amazon alone sell through other vendors. All they have to do is look and see the money and be like, hey guys, there's like a $500 million amount of money that we're sending selling through our site.

Why don't we just make our own supplements? Amazon is just looking at whatever retail still exists. And they're like, oh yeah. You like to buy that shit? Oh yeah, yeah, cool. You could probably buy it here. Now, for cheaper and it'll come to you. And they control the top of the funnel.

So if you type in at the top protein powder, what do you think the first fucking thing's gonna be that shows up? It's gonna be Amazon. And we know now that the first few things that pop up on Amazon can make or break your supplement. If you pop up right away, you're going to sell, see, like protein powder, first one, Amazon brand. Oh, wow. See?

Up to you. They own it. What would you do if it was your company? Oh, it's a gangster. Yeah, good luck, everybody. And it's cheap, bro. It's cheap, man. It's cheap, dude.

Sorry, nutrition shop, or whatever else, you know, the GMC. Oh, man. Those guys are going to disappear. Yeah, so I mean, we're seeing the, the, let's look at the ingredients. The race, the race and the automobile, right, the self-driving car with all of them, and you're going to see them racing on the nutrition fit. I mean, the fitness is really, you know,

why no one gave a shit about it 10 years ago. Yeah, it's a, it's a growing industry, and we haven't slowed down. It's continuing to grow and, and as more people get industry, and we haven't slowed down, it's continuing to grow, and as more people get fatter, and more people are dying sooner. We're hitting a pinnacle of unhealthy, you know, and so everybody's like, oh shit, we gotta take care of this.

Is it artificially sweet in there, Doug? It is. It's super awesome. Amazon, you're not listening to my pump, are you? Oh, Amazon. It's bad, but it's better. You have to catch up. And again, that's why I think what we're doing is great,

because there'll still be a need a market for people like Ourself that are helping people navigate all this information, which I think will be in a great position have conversations with people like this You know, so it's exciting though. I mean, I'm glad and it just confirms You know why we had to go this direction and I can I totally encourage Fitness professionals because we have a lot of them that listen to this show that don't just sell. It would be a dinosaur. Yeah, do not just settle for training 101 clients in person and camps and classes because the future is upon us, man.

And you're going to have to be, you're going to start need to get some digital real estate for sure, whether that be in podcasting and on Facebook, on Instagram, on YouTube, like, you need gonna start need to get some digital real estate for sure whether that be in podcasting and on Facebook on Instagram on YouTube like you need to start establishing that otherwise you're gonna get gobbled up with the question. This quad brought to you by organify for those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Whole Food Nutrition, Organified Feels Agap with Laboratory Tested Certified Organic Superfoods to help give your health and performance the added edge. Try Organified, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Our first question is from Derek Moilin. What are your thoughts on Mike

Menser's School of Thought when it comes to lifting? So you guys we covered this right? I talked to you guys about it. Super intense right? Yeah, so Mike Menser was in his brother Ray so Ray and Mike Menser were bodybuilders in the 70s and early 80s and Mike him you know the the kind of physique that Mike had was extremely impressive. He had this really blocky, just granite hard looking muscular physique, really, really wide shoulders,

relatively narrow waist. And his muscle shape was insane. And when he flexed and whatever, just looked quite impressive, especially among the other 70s. But he was, you know what he looked like? It was like, he had Frank Zayn on one hand, and he would be the other sides. You know what he looked like? He had Frank Zane on one hand, and he would be the other side of the spectrum

in terms of bodybuilder. He looked like that kind of a bodybuilder. Mass, he was all mass compared to him. Just mass and just kind of looked, maybe Doug can look him up so you can see his picture. I've seen him. Yeah, if you give him a critique. But the other thing about Mike Menser,

that was so different, was his training philosophies. Now you gotta consider back in the 70s, bodybuilding was ruled by volume. It was all about volume. And bodybuilders would push volume to insane levels. There he is on the very left. See how he had that kind of powerful looking percolant type. Yeah, he just looks really strong, not really full muscle balance. Yeah, very thick looking kind of body.

And Grave physique, man, especially at that time, right? I mean, arguably one of the best probably. He did, there's a lot of controversy by the way. In the 1980 Mr. Olympia. I'm Tom Selek. Yeah, because of his mustache. Yeah. Yeah, him next to Arnold.

That is, that's the 1980 Mr. Olympia. He looks better than Arnold. I'm care anybody says. Well, that's what that was the controversy. What's his height though? How tall is he? Oh, he was short. Okay, so that's where he gets his loss right there.

You mean, if you got Arnold who's got, if he's short, he, I mean, he looks great, but sort of Colombo, you know, I'm saying Colombo looked amazing. I don't, I think I know he's tall. He was taller than Colombo for sure, but he wasn't, he wasn't very tall. But yeah, the controversy there was Arnold came back to compete in the Olympia, was 15 pounds lighter

than he ever was. And a lot of people thought he should have got maybe top five at the best and he wins. And of course, Arnold is, you know, weater's best friend and the most popular body builder of all time. So there was him and Menser got into a backstage, almost got into a fist fight.

Yeah, it's a really famous story. And there's a lot of controversy around it. He's a good one. In a fight? Yeah, in the fight? Yeah. Arnold. Arnold is so big. Yeah, he's big.

He's got long arms. Yeah. And Arnold's also a terminator, dude. Yeah, see, look how small that's movie shit. Yeah, that's really a badass. I don't know. You have to embrace the role. You have to look at a little bit.

You guys are like, you guys worship him, man. I get that. Look how small Arnold was in the 80 Olympia compared to his previous. How can you not love a guy who comes from another country English is Secondly wrong. I love him too and come over and fucking work his way it all I mean and win like this and then go and make Movies and then go work his way to government like what what else do they got to accomplish? I know He looks strong as fuck. I don't know that might be you know

They did one of his punches, my brother. Well, what they did in this picture too, I mean Arnold's relaxed right there, right? He's relaxed and slouched over and Mensa isn't a full core, Titan posture pose. Well, Mensa didn't even get second. So I think Mensa got third in that,

in that compact content. But he looks great, right? But he got really pissed off. So anyway, in those days in the 70s, all the rage when it came to bodybuilding training was super, super driven, super, super high volume. It was very high volume. To the point where some bodybuilders,

like Serge Nubray, sometimes he would do as many as 50, 60 sets per body part in a workout. They were literally pushing the volume. That's where Joe did get it from. As far as they could possibly go to see what they could, what they could possibly do, then you have mencer who put that in a PDF. Yeah. Then you have mencer who comes out and he learned from Arthur Jones, who's the inventor of Nautilus exercise equipment. And Arthur Jones basically, you know, says, hey,

all you need to do to get the muscles, to get the signal for the muscle to grow, is one super hyper intense set. Once you've done that, the signal is sent, and all you need to do is sit back and recover, and your muscles will grow. And so this was the approach that Mike Menser had, and he wrote this book called Heavy Duty.

And in the book, Heavy Duty, you literally are doing one max out all-out set per body part once a week. So like Monday was chest, shoulders, and triceps, I believe, Wednesday was back and biceps, and Friday was legs. But you're literally doing one all-out set to failure, and that's it. So you work out with... How many times would you frequently hit that muscle, though?

Once a week. That's it? That's it. That you work out with so many how many times would you frequently hit that muscle though once a week? That's it. That's it. Wait a second. How would that that is make sense? That is what he would promote one set. Yep. One one exercise for muscle group. That's it. And one time what was he worked out? So what do you work out five? No, well he would not have three muscles together. So what do you work out three days? Yeah, three days week. So what he would do is now he probably did a little bit more volume, but there were times when he would do exactly that much. But the book he wrote, that's how it was written out. And then he would say things like, you want to do a, and he would do supersets to increase

the intensity. So like for chest, you would go flies to failure straight to a press to failure. And the reason why I said this is you want to pre-exhaust the chest because your shoulders and triceps may fail before. This is what you wrote about. And he he can and it was all about going to failure That's what it was all about if you didn't go to failure Yeah, then you weren't a hundred percent sure if you sent a muscle building signal And this was his theory now

He sold a lot of books because he looks impressive in sodas's brother Ray and a lot of people tried following his routine in some people People died Some people said it worked for them. Doreen Yates, his training style was from Mike Menser. Now Doreen Yates did more volume, and the way Doreen would train is he would do four exercises per body part, but he would only do one set to failure

for each exercise. Still way less volume than most body builders, especially body builders, you know, pro bodybuilders, right? So this was his approach. Now I have personal history with this. So when I was working out, when I first started working out, I got Arnold Schwarzenegger's book or encyclopedia bodybuilding, and I read it cover to cover it.

And I followed his routines, and his routines were super high volume. So I was doing, you know, I'm 15 years old, I'm doing 20 sets for chest and 20 sets for back. And I'm doing an old, I'm doing 20 sets for chest and 20 sets for back, and I'm doing an insane amount of exercises, and I was gaining some strength and some muscle, but I think it was just on accident because I'm 15. My testosterone level is probably higher than it's ever been in my life.

I'm eating a lot of food, and but the progress was just slow. I start reading Mike Menser, he's the right for Iron Man magazine all the time, and I buy his book, Heavy Duty. I remember when I first got the time, and I buy his book, Heavy Duty. And I remember when I first got the book and the reason why I bought it was because he looked super crazy and he sounded smart. So I buy this book, I open it up, I read what he has to say and he convinces me, this is the way you're supposed to train. Because he sounded very scientific, you know, send the signal, leave the muscle alone, let it recover and build. And I remember thinking like, that makes sense. All I gotta do is send a signal. So I followed his routine and I gained five pounds so fast.

Boom, muscle came on my body real quick. And then that was it. My body stopped responding. Nothing happened, I stuck to it, religiously, hard to headedly, and nothing happened, and I had to get out of it. And we all know why my body grew. It was so different from what I was doing before.

It was the exact opposite. But it's definitely not a type of training that's gonna benefit most people, at least not for longer than even a month. And there's been times in my fitness career where I've gone back and experimented with this. And the most I could ever squeeze out of something like this is a couple weeks.

And the sets have to be really fucking intense. Let me tell you something. Squats to failure, to real failure, because sometimes people think they go to failure when they're doing squats. No, there's more reps in you. Trust me, I've pushed it that far. I did a set with, and this was during the height of my strength and everything, I did a set of squats with 315 at a 20 reps.

And when I did 12, when I hit 12th rep, I thought I was failing. And I was training with my buddy and he's like, keep going until you have to leave the bar on the rack. And I got to 20, so imagine that. Feeling like you're failing at 12, squeezing out eight more reps, it was terrible. And it would get me stronger, but again,

it would last for like a week or two because it was just such a radically different stimulus. Today, I never recommend this kind of training. In fact, studies now support that going to failure, first off, is too much intensity for most people. Second off, volume and frequency are very important signals for muscle growth. It's not just intensity. So, if you increase your volume, you'll typically build more muscle to a certain point.

And if you increase your frequency, especially the more advanced you are, the more muscle you'll build. And today, I can confidently say that most people should probably hit a body part two to three days a week, and your total weekly volume anywhere between, you know, 15 sets, maybe 12 sets at the low end, and maybe 25 sets at the high end, total per week, per body part, is typically where I... Well, they say the sweet spot is between 10 and 20 for a week per person,

because everyone's gonna be an individual variance. But actually it was just reading something that's that, or watching a YouTube video talking about this exact topic when addressing volume. And we've kind of just told everybody 10 to 20 has been the sweet spot. But stuff is coming out that you can continue to increase that and see gains going forward. But the when you talk about the most efficient place to be for most people, it's in that 10 to 20 range.

Now the way I teach it or the way I followed in body, because I definitely, my volume got really high. I was well over 20 sets on a muscle group when I was at my height as a pro. But the mistake that I think a lot of people make, and a reference to Joe D jab, because there's a lot of young guys that are trying to keep up with him.

Now maybe for a guy like him who's been training for a really long time, maybe he trying to keep up with him. Now maybe for a guy like him who's been training for a really long time, maybe he can handle that kind of volume. And maybe he's gotten great results by scaling up to that volume. But a majority of young people or even people that are just in their first couple of years of training, they don't belong training at that high of a volume. It's just one, you're gonna be doing damage all day long,

the body, you're not letting it fully recover. And then the likelihood of you're not letting it fully recover. And then the likelihood of you being able to maintain that volume and keep that, you're even if you got some great gains from it. And that's why some people can make money selling programs that are crazy like that, is yeah, I guarantee if you take somebody

in the first five years of their training, who's never trained before, and you throw 50 something sets at them, like yes, their body will respond, it will adapt, and they'll see some results. But you know, 90 plus percent of those people won't be able to keep that volume up. Shit, I can't keep the volume up that I was doing when I was competing at the professional level because it wasn't, I wasn't treating it like a job. I was treating it like a job when I was actually competing, and I was that competitive about

it. I also took you a while to get there. Right, and that was the important piece was I didn't go right to what I was doing at the pro level. I mean, at the amateur level, I was very much so in the 10 to 12 sets per month. I mean, that's about where I'm at right now, 10 to 15. Like, I'm probably hitting 10 to 15 sets per muscle group a week, depending on what muscle we're talking about, and I'm working my way up, but I'm still,

not maybe maybe 50% of the volume that I was pushing when I was as a pro. Here's what I think, my opinion, because I have met people that, not a lot, but I've definitely met people who've done well, doing really, really intense short workouts and not hitting their bodies lots of volume and frequency and build a lot of muscle.

Now we know that when you lift weights, there's a signal that's sent to the body to adapt and your muscle protein synthesis spikes and we can measure that. Now the average person, that spike will drop after about 48 hours pretty quickly. But I think that there's some individuals that are out there

for whatever reason, and I think it's genetic, where the lift weights once, heavy and hard and hammer themselves, maybe short, and that signal will just stay elevated. Now you throw steroids on top of that, and now you've got yourself somebody who can do one all-out crazy balls of the wall set for legs once a week, and their muscles just continue to grow.

I don't think it's common at all. In fact, I'll tell you right now of the three variables that you manipulate with your training, intensity, volume and frequency. I can overdo intensity far faster and easier on a client or on myself than I can the other two. It's really easy. I could take someone off the street right now who's deconditioned and I could honestly train them for a full hour.

I will manipulate and do proper intensity, proper form, proper volume, all those things and they'll be okay. But if I take that same person and do one all-out set of an exercise, I'll fry them or hurt them. Intensity is one of those things you really want to monitor. And for most people, high intensity does build more muscle, but all out, ball, slow wall, intensity is too much. It just simply is too much for most people.

Riskier. It just is. It's riskier, like, really leaning heavier on that variable on itself. Like, volume is definitely something that you can apply and be a little bit more measured with versus like yeah, intensity can get away from you really quick. Well, it's the only one that I still don't think I have mastered. I mean, I think I'm really, really good at it, but I just had a few weeks back where I

overreached and hurt my shoulder, you know, that was me pushing the intensity. And for sure, I wasn't in, like I didn't just get into a workout, I was like, I'm gonna crush this workout. I was like, okay, I know I wanted to stretch myself. I knew I was gonna do that, but I was still trying to just kind of stretch myself

and I overreached. Like it's really easy to overreach. In fact, it's probably one of the most common things that I see that trainers and the average gym goer abuses because the message out there, I mean, it's all about motivation. Everything that we look at, look on Instagram, it's all about the hype and the motivation and don't quit

and all these guys hyping you up to go get it, and get after it and all these guys that are in great shape talking about, you know, most people don't want to quit and give up and you've got to push through that and it's about tenacity and you hear that message so much that you take that and then you go into the gym and then you slam your pre-work out so you can get that intensity. And it's like, dude, all you end up doing is overreaching and you don't need to do that if you're trying to continually gain muscle.

And you know, here's all the evidence you need that, cause this problem with this message of intensity, the big problem is that, cause Mike Menser used to say, and what a lot of people in that space would say, is that if you're not going super intense, it's a waste of time. Like if you go and do, so not true.

Yeah, which is not true, trigger sessions proves that false. And if you do trigger sessions consistently, and you do them right, and you do them frequently, you will build more muscle and get stronger. Trigger sessions are low intensity. I got that idea from watching blue collar workers in my family who had muscular body parts that corresponded to the type of work that they did. I had an uncle who's a plumber, never lifted weights a day in his life. The guys' forearms look like a fucking pro bodybuilder.

Why? Because he's cranking on wretches, it wrenches and shit all day. Now, is that intense for him? No, he's been doing it for 35 years. I'm sure his hands and forearms got sore for the first five months. But, you know, the rest of the 35 years, that was like cake, it's low intensity movement all day long. And yet the dude's dudes forums were more muscular

than most guys I know who work out in the gym. And that's from that low intensity movement. So, you know, that alone proves that, you know, as much as I love Mike Menser, as much as he was a hero mind back in the day, I do not agree with his style of training. And we know the science now has supported this, the studies have shown that, that type of training,

it can work for a very short period of time, but for most people, doesn't work. Next question is from Rabbi. How do I convince my man that is rancid? Something died inside you, Farts, are from his protein. He drinks the typical GNC weight gainers because he suffers from tall, skinny white guy syndrome. Oh, man.

What is a better alternative? So I no longer have to be surrounded he suffers from tall skinny white guy syndrome. Oh man. That's true. What is a better alternative? So I no longer have to be surrounded by his acid butt cloud and he can still make games. You know, I like this lady. Back in the day, I used to think that, I thought it was normal. That's smelling like really, really stinky ass parts.

That was normal because I was eating the right amount of protein. That's what I used to think. Oh, cool. In fact, I hate this embarrassing to say, but that was one of the gauges that I used is to whether or not I was eating enough protein. If I farted and didn't smell real bad, I'd be like, oh shit, I need more protein.

It's not enough. You know, having really... It's almost nostalgic. Like, you remember being stuffed in this like tiny box weight room and inevitably, you're in there only for like maybe five minutes, maybe 10 minutes, right? And just somebody just rips one in. It is, like the paint just peels off the walls.

Didn't you say you had your roommate was just the worst? He was the worst. I literally, I used to call him names and like, just whatever I could come, like I would get like angry, angry. It wasn't like funny. And he's like, he was like a giant. You know, like he was like six, eight,

and just like 300 and I don't know, like seven pounds giant. Yeah, he's like a big, big, big dude. And so when he would fart like Like it would hit this like like primal Button in me and I'm just like Ah So bad like it oh my god. Was it like what's his name's fart Craig?

Craig it was just like that. Oh, it was like on a consistent basis that was hot, dude That was too much. Way hot. People need to understand. That's a diet issue. Well, people need to realize that if you're first of all, first of all, farts are not supposed to smell good, obviously. But they're not really supposed to have this terrible lingering

smell. If it burns the other person's mouth, that's not a good thing. That's rancid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If someone farts the ruin, you can taste it. That's not a good choice. That's rancid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone farce the ruin, you've contasted. Dude, that's fucking bad.

You know, and it's kind of beefy, and it's kind of chemically, you know, like there's like distinguish, and then there's the protein fart. That one, I get like all these descriptors like she put in there, like I remember that. It's very sulfuric, right? It's like, it's egg-y. What do you think that's what?

Do you think that's probably what's from it's probably you're probably taking a lot of protein powder. And one of the best things that someone can do like this that you can help them out is to really push them to take in their protein through natural food. Like I definitely, if I'm eating, I could eat a lot of protein. If it's all food, I don't have a problem.

It's only when I'm high protein and taking protein powder. It's so stingy bringing it up. So I've been carnivore. Right. And I have not even had bad gas at all. You haven't. You're not at all. Used to be terrible.

Now they're okay. They're okay now. They weren't that bad. They weren't terrible. Now they're okay now. No, and so this is what, and I put this together a long time ago, when I would be taking the protein, the weight gainers, and I was doing the shakes,

that was when, and I pushed in 200 plus grams of protein, that's when I would get the gas. If I ate, last night, just 1.6 pounds of ribeye is 205 grams of protein. At 200 five pounds of protein, I didn't fart, I don't get it. Wait a minute, it's 205 grams. Yeah. At 200, five pounds of protein, I don't know. Wait a minute, it's 205 grams in one sitting? Yeah.

Yeah. Crazy. That's a little bit of work. That's a little, that's a little, that's a little work. Bro, you know your body only utilized 40 grams of protein. You just wasted it half-protein. You know who shamed me today? I think that.

Dude, so Christina Rice, so she did carnivore for like a week or whatever and she's like, oh yeah, you know, you don't have to go that low calorie. What do you mean? Like I'm like up to like three pounds, like three and a half pounds. I was stretched. She's like, I was eating like four, five pounds. Yeah, Christina could throw it down. Like what? You know what? I thought she was lying when she used to tell me that. Yeah. And then I had her over for dinner and I made everybody a one pound ribeye. Everybody. So I had a one pound ribeye, Jessica had a one pound ribeye, and Christina had a one

pound. And Christina is a tiny girl. She's not a big super petite. She weighs like 100 pounds maybe at the most, maybe less than that. And I saw that girl eat it and have a wonderful conversation and eat it like she, there was no struggle. There was no like, oh my god, I can't finish this, she was like, buh buh buh, like I was literally like,

I was impressed and I was also a little embarrassed with myself. Yeah, you should be ashamed, you know. So I'm eating capacity. I would really push him away from getting his, and there's much better ways to get calories than wake in her shakes, man. He'll gain more muscle if he eats real food.

He will. Yeah. This is a sign by the way, this is a sign that his gut is off, Wake in her shakes, man. He'll gain more muscle if he eats real food. He will. This is a sign, by the way. This is a sign that his gut is off. And when your gut is off, this is an important thing for people to understand, especially guys who want to gain muscle. And the reason why I say especially,

is because they're the hardest ones to get through to. So explain this to him. When his gut is off, he is not assimilating his food as effectively as he could, which means he's not gonna build muscle like to his full potential. I know from, well, my gut is on, I build way better muscle, faster, and I'm stronger.

Well, my gut's off, I could pound the calories all I want, I could pound the food all I want, and I just don't gain as much muscle. My body's not assimilating the food. If his farts are terrible, that's a sign that is guts off. And everything that he's eating, he's just not utilizing it as much as he possibly could. He's blasting out a cloud of half of that in the air.

Right, yeah, yeah. I mean, if he switched that out for real whole foods, not only will his gut be healthier, but then he'll assimilate the food better. Total inflammation will be down, which means this cortisol will be down, which probably means he'll be able to raise his testosterone. Of course, less inflammation means

he's got a more appropriate inflammatory response. So, recovers better from his workouts. All of this means more gains, more muscle, less body fat. Your gut health is not just, I have bubble guts, I have smelly farts, or I have gas. It's not just that. It's a whole long chain of cascading events that all contribute to everything, including your aesthetics. So his weight gainer is not helping him build muscles. Well, and something that maybe try this too because you know, this is a shameless plug for our sponsor

Organify is it could be the protein powder change of your protein. Yeah, it could be the it could be because he's getting it from egg You know, so if he's it could be potentially that or very yeah, so so maybe try maybe try getting it from a Vegan source and see if that helps him out But I mean obviously the the goal would be to not have, I use shakes in order to get a target because I'm missing in something, right? I know I'm gonna have a hard time getting in. Today's breakfast, I wanted to include oatmeal,

I hadn't had that before, I wanted to carve up from the day yesterday, I had zero carbs yesterday. So today I wanted to carve up early in the morning for my day and so I busted out the oatmeal. Well, I know if I have a cup of oatmeal and fruit, I could no protein whatsoever. And even if I had three eggs, like I did, that's still low protein for me. So then I scooped the organify in my oatmeal to boost that. But it's not my go to, it's not my ideal meal. My ideal meal is always getting it through whole natural foods. And then if I absolutely need to,

then we're using these shakes to boost that. I just don't think it's ideal to go that way. Next up is Amanda Kamila. What do you guys think of the recent movement against masculinity? Lots of people are speculating that teaching masculinity to young boys leads to toxic traits as adults. Hor-shit.

Super, super. Come complete. It's one of the most damaging- It's a jammed death. It's one of the most damaging movements that we could possibly have, okay? Here's my, here's only the one example I need to give. First off, we don't have a masculinity crisis where we have too much masculinity in society. It's the opposite.

We do have a masculinity crisis and it's too little masculinity. One out of every four children today in America grow up without a father. That's 25 percent. In some communities, it's as high as 75 percent. No father present in the home, that is a masculinity crisis on the opposite. Statistically speaking, the statistics, by the way, are real, okay?

So this is real stuff I'm pulling this off of, these are government statistics. Children who grow up without a father, four times greater risk of poverty, seven times more likely to become pregnant as a teen. They are more likely to face abuse and neglect. They're two times greater risk of infant mortality, more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol,

much more likely to go to prison, two times more likely to suffer from obesity, two times more likely to drop out of high school. I mean, it's insane to me that people would say that we have too much masculinity. When we have this, by the way, you know, 50, 60 years ago, this, there were very few homes without a father. Men didn't leave there, you know, when people, first of all, divorce went through the roof and then we have this culture where, you know,

look, I went through a divorce, I know this, and luckily my ex and I worked together. But I know how easy it could have been for her to fight to get most custody of my kids. It would have been very difficult for me as being the man. Sometimes this happens. The other thing that sentence that happened

is a lot of these guys grow up without a father themselves. Maybe their father skipped out on them or whatever. Then they get a girl pregnant and to them, this is what I don't want that responsibility I'm out of here. And so a lot of these kids are growing up without dads and we're telling, on top of that, we're telling these boys growing up that masculinity's toxic.

You not only do you grow up without a father in an in difficult situation, now we're telling you masculinity's toxic, but you yourself know that you're a man. You know that that comes with masculinity. Now you hate yourself even more. Insane. It's absolutely insane

It makes no sense whatsoever. What do you call what do you call that when we're we're trying to become all one? Would you say yeah? It just seems to me like we're trying to homogenize our Culture like trying to make us all just equal playing field everything equal equal equal And we're eliminating all of the unique characteristics that we're born with. Like it. And you know, celebrate. Like there's differences for a reason.

And why did we stop celebrating that fact? You know, that's one of those things. It's like, you connect with somebody else that has different traits with you. And you create balance. balance and there's you know There's synergistic effect to that, you know, and there's a way that You know we move forward. I think you know as a family or you know There's these characters is for reasons. No, this is all I think it's more like that. It's that simple

It doesn't have to be a male female thing or a masculinity thing It's that somebody's gonna assume the traits. Right. If you roll reverse that, and you want women to have more of those characteristics, then a male's gonna act with the opposite. So it's like, if you wanna roll reverse it, then that's, so the thing about masculinity,

it's like, we're born, and this obviously, this goes to like, you know, like how people are born, it's all different. Like we all have different variables, and like some people might have a little more femininity, you know, versus masculinity. But the thing is, those are two very distinctive characteristics. No, the world needs good, healthy, strong masculinity, and good, healthy, and strong femininity.

You need both. You need both. You do need both. And why do you need both? Because that's how it's been, and that's the way we've evolved. And that's the way it should, statistically, when you look at the numbers,

it makes us healthy to have those. Now, why are there those two things? Because there's a lot of arguments these days about this, and it becomes this whole sexist thing. It's not sexist. There's no, no one's being a big hit when we talk about this. It's the reason why it exists this way

is because for most human history, we had different roles. Now, if you look at the male and female gender, biological gender, the female gender, first of all, you need to have a certain number of females in order to promote, to keep the species alive, okay? This is why women have been protected forever. You know the term women and children first or protect the women.

Well, there's a reason for that. If you have a society of two few women, it doesn't matter how many men you have, the society will crumble. Because a woman can only have one. Right. If someone came into want to conquer your city, all they had to do is kill all the women off your fuck you'd be fuck your fuck now you could do the opposite and you could kill most of the men and have 10% of the men left over but society would be

just fine because one man can impregnate so many women and only one woman can be only can be pregnant once for a nine month period so because of that over thousands of years these are the traits that have developed. The males were dispensable because we are dispensable. So what do male characteristics tend to be? Riskier. We tend to make riskier decisions. We tend to be the ones that are a little more aggressive

or protective because those are the things that tend to kill us. When you look at the most dangerous jobs in America, even today, when things are far more equal than they've ever been, where everybody has equal opportunities. And people are very aware of the fact that, you know, men and women should have the same opportunities. Still, to this day, the absolute most dangerous jobs

you could possibly do are dominated by men. And it's not because women aren't allowed to have those jobs, it's because that's a trait of masculinity is to do those types of things's because that's a trait of masculinity, is to do those types of things. You look at the risky business ventures, with the risky capital ventures, where someone's gonna take all their money,

bet it on the line. All this risk that's associated with masculinity, it's a necessary thing for society to succeed. But here's the opposite that, a lot of people, I think why we're in such the situation we're in now. Couple of things. First off, definitely for a long time, women were oppressed by men.

So I get that and that needed to be corrected. But then there's another side to it. And it's that a lot of people, and including a lot of women themselves, didn't give credence to what femininity brought. Like it was like, oh, so men do all the risky stuff and they'll, well, you're trying to say, I'm not important. I want to do with the man's, with the, with what a guy's doing. I want to, I don't want that to be a male thing.

I want that to be, and I get that, but at the same time, the feminities equally just as fucking important. The femininity is what builds societies. It's what builds communities. It's the empathy that we find. And by the way, masculinity and femininity exist in both men and women. And a male can be more feminine than masculine and vice versa. It just so happens to be the other way around mostly. So these things are very important.

And this whole movement against masculinity, to me, is absolutely insane. And to call it toxic masculinity. How about just calling it like shitty? Like, yeah, yeah, right. Like a shitty person. Yeah, like if someone's, if someone's violent, is that toxic masculinity?

You're a man, you're an asshole. Or is that just, just bad? Like being violent is not toxic masculinity. That's just, you're just being an asshole. You know, being oppressive, that's not toxic, toxic masculinity, which I've heard it be described many times. That's just, you're just an oppressive asshole. Women can do it as well.

They just do it at a lower rate. And there's all those statistics as well. They just do it at a lower rate, and there's all those statistics as well. And I do get it, like men, we do most of the crimes. So if you look at crime, and you look at who commits most of the crime, it's predominantly male, I get that. But on the other end of the scale, men do a lot of the other shit, predominantly as well.

And it flips with other things with men and women. So this whole... How many of those men that do would would claim that they're doing out of necessity too. So who knows, but my point with all of this is this is we we want to abolish all of this so much that we're now we're not allowed to celebrate the differences and we're not allowed to see the good in it. And now it's just like fuck it. You race everything, call it toxic and it's attack men season, which isn't saying. It's an interesting new agenda that's out there. It's like, I've never seen so much confusion in the world today.

Now it's like, everything's being challenged as far as biology. Like it's being a, is under attack. It's just, it's very strange and it's, I get it. I mean, we all want to be super inclusive and we want to include differences and people that have been minorities forever and it's, but at the same time, like let's not ignore biology.

Like it's, this is how we're born. Well, I love where we're at right now because as stupid as this is and we're born. Well, I love where we're at right now because as stupid as this is, and I agree it's stupid, it's neat that we have an opportunity where we have free platforms like the one we're on right now and we can voice our opinions and you can see people like our buddy Ryan who has the Order of Man podcast,

which is literally like centered around this. Like this is his response to what he sees going on is his podcast and it gets great traction because I think there's a huge need for it. And like I always say on this podcast, we tend to swing the pendulum like in, I'm sure there was somewhat of a need for this conversation. Like there's probably some,

there's definitely toxic masculinity out there. Like it's out there, probably exists. There's definitely toxic masculinity out there. Like, it's out there probably exists. There's probably somebody that is, that is causing harm to others. And it led all the way back to, you know, some bad male figure that, that embedded these traits in this young kid, but to blanket statement, the things that you're seeing right now, that could become dangerous. And it can also lead to us swinging the other direction. And I believe that we, we will. And I believe that podcasts like his are going to thrive because there's going to

be a need because we're going to see more and more of this stupid shit come out. You know what the antidote to this is? The antidote to this is if you really want to abolish all these terms and stuff, then just respect the individual. That's it. Just respect the individual and whatever that individual wants to do, and who they are, and if it's a boy, and they wanna do traditional boy things, don't tell them it's there, don't follow that gender role, that's what you wanna do.

And if it's a girl, and she wants to do tradition, or a flip in its vice versa. That is so irritating me. Let them do their thing, but you can't, look, I tell you, there's a whole generation of men. Let people do what they wanna do. There's a whole generation of boys growing up without fathers and girls growing up without

fathers right now. Like I said, one at every before that's insane to me and I think that's a big problem and when we attack masculinity what we need to do is we need to be telling guys if you get someone pregnant the masculine thing to do is to be there. You is a being if you should be a man. What does that mean? You mean you're responsible and you take care of your children and you take care of your family

and you're involved in your children's lives. That's what they need to be told instead. What are they told? It's like this mixed message, nobody knows. Next question is from Tim Imbo. What positive qualities have you guys picked up from one another since podcasting and working together over the years?

Probably a lot. We're probably homogenizing. Yeah. Right? I'm painting my toenails. Right, right. I don't know, man. Listen, let's list some of these off

because we're also similar. We're also very different. There's certain strengths that each of us have that I think, you know, I'll give you one with something that Justin does a really good job of, and I try and practice it because I tend to be more the emotional one that can react to a lot of things. He does a really good job of observing and absorbing all the information that's coming in and gathering his thoughts before he speaks,

which is ironic because he's on a podcast where he's got a ramble and speak and stuff like that, which is probably why it challenges him so much is because he's trained himself so well to gather himself before he just blurt some stuff out, which on the complete opposite, I'll just blurt some shit out and then later pay for it. And so that's so funny because I was gonna reciprocate that same note as far as challenging me to express my thoughts and opinions unabashedly. You know, like a without filter, but yeah, at the same time,

that's why I think it's a good balance that we sort of share with that. Cause yeah, and then Sal, I mean, just being that inner confidence, but it's not like a cocky confidence. It's not like a put you down confidence. It's a self belief. I feel like I've had a self belief,

but I've never had it to where I could express myself and carry myself the way you do. I really admire that about you. And it's more just like, you know, like you've just, you've really like come into your own and you believe in yourself. Like I want more self-belief, you know, and I'm striving to be more like that.

That's funny you say that, because I think you're probably the, I view you as being one of the most confident people I know, but your confidence is, I guess I can see what you're saying. Just press different. Yeah, you don't speak it out, you just kind of, like we fuck with each other all the time, we make fun of each other, people make fun of us on

our social media, we've opened ourselves up to that, we all laugh at it, and none of us really get our feelings start with that, but Justin's very much Justin, he doesn't change anything just because, you know, other people think it's cool or they think whatever or you know, change his opinion because he's just, he's just who he is and it's very solid. And you know, I think both of you guys actually share

that trait, I think all of us do in our own way, but Justin's is a very silent, solid version of it. And you can feel it when you're around people like that. When you sit around people like that, if you're an insecure person, you're gonna wanna boast even more, or show yourself even more, and Justin doesn't waver.

He just kinda sits there and does this thing, and it's a very calm confidence. And I think we all kind of share that a little bit. The thing I learned from you guys is just to examine my training. I've always been open-minded with training, but much more so since working with you guys, especially on the mobility piece and on functional exercise piece, I also appreciate the way you guys challenge things.

I really like that. I really like the different viewpoints that you guys bring and it's always good. Like it's almost never where I hear Adam or Justin have an opinion on something that's counter to what most people are thinking. I can't think of a single time where I heard you guys say something and I went,

well that's dumb, it's almost like, oh shit, I never really thought of it that way. I have to, I could definitely confidently say you're both very outside the box thinkers, which I really appreciate. The big thing I appreciate about Justin, because you're confident and you're silent, you're willing to do a bunch of shit that you know is gonna challenge you,

but you do it anyway. You end up doing it anyway. I really like watching Adam in a crowd. I really enjoy watching him do that. He has a good time when he's around a lot of people, and I do really, really well in small crowds, or if I'm talking to a crowd, but not necessarily at a party in a crowd.

I tend to be the one who I'll move over and talk to someone else and hang out on my own. And Adam's very, very, he walks around the room and has a great time and can have conversation with everybody. And so I enjoy observing it and I try to be a little bit of a chameleon where one thing that I tend to do is I watch people, and if they do something that I like, I first try to copy it,

and then I try to develop it as my own. And I've done that a lot, so much so that it's hard to even specifically remember the specific things. Because again, like you said, we're becoming homogenized. I totally have taken a lot from both of you guys. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, there's definitely things like that.

I mean, I remember, and we've seen these little these growth moments in the show and with the YouTube channel, especially that one that was really uncomfortable for me. It surprised me how uncomfortable the YouTube channel was. I thought like you're saying that in a crowd and with people, I thought, like you're saying, in a crowd and with people, I'm an extrovert, I don't mind being put on the spot like that and having to talk in front of people. It's never got me nervous or freaked out. I thrive in that space. So I thought when we turned the cameras on and did the YouTube

that I would just naturally fall into it, and I really did it. And so that's something that I've definitely leaned on, Sal a lot, and there's been a lot of stuff that I feel like he's led the way. And just the way you carry yourself, the way you also have this incredible trait that it likes Justin was saying is extremely confident, but then also very, very humble.

And I think everybody is kinda like this, and I think that where it's a constant reminder, because when you are really confident, being someone who's extremely confident, you flirt with cockiness. When you're extremely humble, you probably flirt with being too reserved and quiet sometimes.

So we kinda have this nice way of, because everyone has little bits of strengths in different areas that we all take from each other. So I really, I just joking, but I really think that we have become very homogenized about, I mean, I catch myself doing this all the time where I'm rattling off something and I'm literally verbatim probably saying something

that South said the other day, but I am owning it as if it was mine, you know, and I catch him doing the same thing all the time too. And it's just- It's in my wheelhouse. Yeah, it's in my wheelhouse. But I'm long time listeners. There's other little traits too that like,

so I mean, we were talking about like a lot of skills and things that we like about each other, but you know, Sal and Justin both of this are definitely family men. Their family come first, and I'm not that way. This is not a strength and a trait of mine. I'm because of my past and the way I grew up, it's not something that is a strength of mine at all.

And having that in front of me on a daily basis, and Doug is included in this conversation too, because he's an incredible father. And so seeing that for me, I've picked up on those traits and it's blood into my family. And the way I communicate with my siblings and the way I even communicate with Katrina and her family. And so I've definitely picked up a lot of those good traits from you guys. And I think that's been something that's evolved me as a person. I think everybody in here is very growth-minded in their own area, which is awesome that we're not growth-minded in the same exact departments.

Like sometimes I get frustrated, right? Like when I think that I want everybody to do something, like I want everyone to read this book, I want everyone to do this thing because we all need to be on this page. And I get a little frustrated at first and then I realize like, fuck why do I want that?

I don't want, you know, that's my thing. If I like doing that, I'll push and accelerate in there and it's like there's certain things that Sal or Justin do that I fucking have no desire to do and push. So it's a really cool dynamic. And we really do pick up on each other's traits

to the point where there's a little bit of all of us in each person, I think, literally. I think, yeah, and it's some of those things that you recognize are strengths, like really super strengths that you guys have that I'm like, I want that, but it's not me, you know, specifically, but I do end up like, you know, challenging myself and stretching myself as a human being to get better in different

directions, because I am very growth minded. You guys are very growth minded. I think that's where, you know, the confidence thing is unique, because very confident and very, you know, assertive, but at the same time, very willing to be wrong and very willing to listen to a counter viewpoint, which is not typical, not typical mugs, any friends I've ever had, you know, so that's a unique thing.

Well, it's to be, when you're really confident, then you're okay with not being the best or not being right. That's what real confidence is. Fake confidence is I have to be the one that's right. I have to be the best or not being right. That's what real confidence is. Fake confidence is I have to be the one that's right. I have to be the best. I have to be, and what I mean by that is, it's okay to want to be the best and to be, of course,

I think all of us share that also. But when you're not, you're not looking at the guy who won and saying, fuck that guy. You know, what are you looking at? I'm going, what do you do? And I'm going to do that. And that's what real confidence kind of is like. And it's a weird feeling to have,

to work with people that you can completely depend on. Like completely, I never have a doubt in my mind if there's something that is being done by one of my partners that I don't look at and I don't have to touch or whatever, that I know that shit is gonna get done and it's gonna get done well. It's a very strange feeling.

I've never been in a situation like that where I've worked with people where I'm just totally confident. Like I know if one of you guys is gonna go off to do something, like oh, they're handling it. It was a growth moment for I think. I think it was actually, there was a point where, because everyone's a leader in here, that where everyone had to kind of let go of that. I think there was a point where we're everyone's a leader in here, that where everyone had to kind of let go of that.

I think there was a point where we're all used to having to oversee, overlook, have our hands and be a part of, and it's like, as the business is involved and scaled and we've grown, you know, we've been more and more comfortable with that, it's just saying like, hey, I know I could go do that. Like, I know I can do that job. I know I can do that job too, but I'm not the best guy

in it. So fuck it. I don't even need to be a part of it. I don't need to be a part of it. I don't need to deal with it. I need to overlook it. I don't need to see it. I know sales, 10 times better. I know Justin's 10 times better. I know Doug's 10 times better at that. Even though I can do all of it, I don't need to be a part of it. What I need to do is I need to focus on the things one that I enjoy doing within the business, right? And continue to push and accelerate at that. And let go, that was, and there was a moment, I think, where we did this a lot of, like, we converged over everything, you know, every time a decision, we had all three of us together and everything.

Yeah, a little thing we did. Right, I think there was a point there, and you could see that in the YouTube channel. Yeah. The YouTube channel we used to do, you know, that was one of the first critiques that we got, and then I think that we learned that that wasn't an we used to do, that was one of the first critiques that we got, and then I think that we learned that wasn't an ideal way to do that. We thought it would be cool,

because we'd like to do everything together, and it's like, well, fuck it, it's like, if the audience isn't getting the most out of it, they're not liking it the most, and why the fuck are all three of us doing it? One of these guys can go do this, why the other two could be doing it. So there's been a lot of things like that,

where we've allowed the guys with, you know, the guy with the strength or the better traits for that, that job duty. And I think the, that's a real team. Yeah. That's like a real, real team. You know, you, you look at a football team, you have your people who play their positions and they're all excellent at them. And they're all such great athletes, they could probably play each other's positions, but a wide receiver's not gonna be as good at protecting the quarterback as a lineman, even though both of them are extreme athletes. And I think that's kind of what a real team is like. And when you have equal partners,

it's very difficult to find that. Because when you have equal partners, a lot of times everybody wants to be the man, or nobody wants to be the man. Sometimes you run into that too, and that can be a common issue. One thing about Doug, I wanna say, when we first started the podcast,

and even till this day, Doug has really recognized to let us kind of be ourselves on the podcast, and we do certain things. Even though sometimes he grits his teeth, or he gets a little like, oh shit, what are they going to say now? But he's always been as the producer, he's got the, especially in the beginning, he had a lot of power to say, I don't think we should do that. We should cut that out. And Doug is very much like, well, that's your flavor. That's what you want

to say. Let's do it. And sometimes he'll give us this input. But he does a great job of directing things sometimes without even making us feel like that's what's happening. You know what I mean? It's fucking it's absolutely brilliant. Steering. Do you guys think there's been parts of the business that we've had or you personally have struggled with letting go of like I remember teasing Doug for a long time like it was so hard to get Doug to let go of some of it all the task that he does. Still to this day if I had to

say anyone struggles with letting go of tasks, I think it's done. Which is a great trait, right? The fact that we have this killer who just wants to do everything, but the business has grown so much that it's impossible for Doug to handle all those things anymore.

And so, prying them out of his hands to give to somebody else and then watching that transition has always entertained for me. Have you guys felt that in the business yourself? Has it been things that you felt like you've like finally like, you know what, fuck it, I don't even want to. You know, when I feel that, it's not because I don't want

to let it go, it's because I enjoy, there may be something that I enjoy doing. That's what I mean, even something that you, because I think that's the case with all of us. There's parts of the business that, hey, I like doing that too, but it's like, maybe I'm not the best guy for that. I like being on, I like to be on mics, and I like to be on camera. Those two things I enjoy doing that too, but it's like, maybe I'm not the best guy for that. I like being on, I like to be on mics and I like to be on camera.

Those two things I enjoy doing. And so, automatically want to be able to be on camera to deliver what I'm gonna say or be on mic and talk. Those are my favorite things to do. And we all do that. So that's something that we all share. You know, the writing and the content, that's not an issue because I think you guys don't like doing that. Most people don't like to do that. Well, that's also something that you and that we all share. You know, the writing and the content, that's not an issue because I think you guys

don't like doing that. Most people don't like to do that. So, you and I can sometimes. That's also been an incredible trade about you, is that I know you don't love that. I mean, I'm not stupid. You know, there's very, I don't know anybody that really loves it.

Just maybe if you didn't like the camera and the mic, you might love to do that. But very few people have to sit down and just grind and write. You're just the fucking best at it. I know Justin could do it. I know I can do it. I had to, as a trainer, you have to be able to have

that knowledge and that education and put it on paper, put it for me, that just takes 10 hours to create something that you can create in 20 minutes. And I tell you what, learning a process that was because if I feel inspired to write or create something, it'll just come out of me and it's fucking great. If I don't feel inspired, oh my God, man, I gotta sit there and make it happen.

And that is what I've learned to do that I didn't do before. Because in the past, if I wrote something, it's got to felt like it. And if I didn't, I didn't do it at all. But now I'm learning how to like, okay, outline things, write them out, like make it happen. That's been a little bit difficult. I think I've just watching you guys do that too on your own, and it's been pretty cool. Yeah, well, and that's the thing too. I look at my strengths and my weaknesses and things that I feel like I can improve and

get better. And so I'm like, my biggest hurdle, I guess, this is like a sports analogy, but I don't like being benched, you know? I fucking hate being benched. I but I've done it for a season or two and I've learned a lot in that experience and that's carried with me and thank God it did because now I can recognize you know that there's other people more talented me in certain directions right and so you know like so for instance, for YouTube,

like that's one of those things, like I, I painfully like want to be better, like I want so bad to be better and like to convey information into like deliver it and be like punctual and like have this sort of, have it just all come to me, you know, like, it just happens, you know, like I remember struggling with the podcast, but it's like,

I had times, I had reps, I had, that's something I could practice and work on every day. But at the same time, I don't enjoy teaching people through video, I don't enjoy that. That came across. I don't enjoy that. I like making people laugh, and I like lightening it up

and that's just more of my wheelhouse, if you will. But so I'm figuring that out. And that's been a struggle in mine. But at the same time, fuck, I recognize how talented you guys are at it. And it makes me happy that the business can thrive in that direction. But I'll tell you what, like it's been fucking hard because I am not a benched athlete.

Yeah, you don't think of it, I don't think of it like that. Like, you know what's funny is, I don't think I've had a hard time. I'm like, Mr. Delegate, I love to delegate, but what I am though is I'll also do every job too. So like, I love to come in and like even like when we first got into editing and I saw that that was gonna be a hurdle.

Like I went out, I fucking bought the software. I was at home, I was you fucking around with my GoPro, teaching myself to do it because I wanna know how to do it to know one how hard it is to do it, what it should take to be able to do it. So then again, I could teach somebody else to do it, make them do it. Like that's, I like that.

So I actually don't mind letting go. Like I've always had a, as it's part of what is, is accelerating me as a leader is being okay with that. It's being okay with, and this is something I'm always, I'm always pushing Doug in this direction. It's like, you know, this is the ultimate place to get into leadership is when you're okay with that. Like you know that you can do this job.

Like you know you can do all parts of it if you need to, but then empowering somebody else to take the step into that role. And so I don't think of it as like a bench, like even like the editing. What I know is that I could do something like that if I needed to and I understand the job, but I want to see the best man or woman in this facility run that. And even like the YouTube videos, I don't want to do the YouTube videos. So at Rise of Right Now, I'm one of the better ones out of all of us to do the YouTube videos. I don't want to fucking do them.

I can't wait the day that we have this younger generation that comes up, that like your daughter who loves to be on that platform, loves to do all those things. And I can let them flourish and be in there. I'll also take a backseat real fucking quick, real quick. I got no problem stepping out of that role. And that's, and the same thing goes for every other position that we've created at one point, from tailors to Katrina's to all these, all these positions to ants, all these people

within the facility and stuff. I've done all the roles. I've played all those, those parts of it just enough, just enough to know what we need to know inside that business profile. I'll let go of it real quick. I'm gonna get better at that. This is an ego thing. You know what I mean?

You just kind of get used to like, okay, you recognize like things are working. That's not like mess with that. I think that when you look at great teams and great, whether sports, business, bands, whatever, would always fuck them up as egos. It's always what fucks them up. I'm always, always, every single time. And if you can put that aside and recognize that any win is a win for everybody.

And any loss is a loss for everybody and that it's all moving towards the same direction. And you're comfortable with who you are, you're gonna be okay. It's when the egos start to clash and the people start to feel like they need to do this and the other person needs to do that, and I'm in charge and you're not,

and that's when you start to have problems and that's when great things fail. And I will be damned if I allow that to happen with anything that I'm involved in, especially with you guys, knowing what the ultimate purpose behind mind pump in is on what we started this for, which is I feel like a higher purpose up bigger than us.

I think it's too late for that to even be possible. I really do. And someone probably listening, you think that's crazy for me to say that, but I think the way we all look at this literally like our baby, and we've already raised it to be a young child already. It's not a bait infant anymore. It's a growing, growing young adult that's growing up right now.

And we're also proud of it. And all of us are that exact the same way you guys father your kids is you put your ego aside and you guys have this ability, which I think is so awesome. I think we all have that same thing in business. Like we all look at the business as if it was our child and truly, like as if it was our child, that it's the success of it, the growth of it, and the future of it is far greater than any of our individual. And that is a trait that I think everybody here shares

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