Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 853: Best Shoulder Building Exercises, How & When to Use Sauna & Cold Therapy, Intentional Bodyfat Gain & MORE.mp3

Episode Date: September 7, 2018

MAPS Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mindpumpmedia.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to mentally deal with the idea of gaining weight and not being as lean, favorite exercises for building the delts, the best time to implement sauna use and cold therapy relative to time of day and training schedule and if the younger generation is becoming less and less connected to religion. Mind Pump Recommends: Won’t You Be My Neighbor? Documentary. (5:35) The difference in consumption of information from the 70s to today. The way kids are marketed today. (16:45) Is California the new stoners paradise? (19:10) How our feet have become so de-conditioned due to shoes. (24:38) Justin/Courtney going on 10 year anniversary vacation! Party hard! (26:04) New program launch! The newest MAPS Program releases soon! (31:40) What will Sal and Adam do while Justin is gone? (32:33) Adam always on the cutting edge of technology. 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If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind, hop, mind, hop, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this neighborly episode of Mind, won't you be... Pump, my neighbor. Remember Trolley? Yeah. Yeah.

I forgot all about that. We start out the episode by talking about the documentary about Mr. Rogers You have to watch this please. I believe I think everybody should watch Was captain kangaroo part of it? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no got it, it's stellar reviews, but you just didn't hear much about it. Dude, you didn't get a lot of pub. Best documentary I've seen in a long time. Ever for me, dude. It was, there's not a lot of documentaries that I get teary-eyed because I'm watching it. It's really good. Then we talk about how California is becoming a stoner's paradise.

Yeah, bro. You could apparently play video games or do your pizza to your door. And now, if you live in California, you can order weed to your door on demand. Through one of our sponsors, ease, e-a-z-e, if you go to ease.co forward slash mind pump and use the code mind pump,

you'll get $20 off your cannabis order and free delivery. Then we talk about Justin's upcoming trip and his golfing in Scotland. He's going to be on Ireland and Scotland, right? Ireland and Scotland. It's good stuff. You're you're too tan for it now, though. I'm going to stick out.

Yeah. Now, we do have a golf guide. It's available at MindPumpFree.com. And if you go to our, our YouTube channel MindPumpTV, we have Brandon Harris teaching you movements to improve your golf game. We also talk about a surprise on Monday. Our new Maps program will be launching on Monday. D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D- as always getting the newest stuff. We do a thrive market unboxing, Doug orders us some stuff from Thrive Market. They are the largest online retailer of Nott and GMO,

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you should be able to, I think we get to give you a discount. If you don't, doesn't matter, buy them from anyway. Good stuff. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, after you get really lean for like a competition or summer, how do you mentally prepare or deal with the idea

of gaining weight? Yeah, your body's gonna gain a little body fat. How do you handle that? It's real easy. Next question was, what do we think of the Arnold press and what are some of our favorite exercises for building the delts? We talk about some of our favorite movements

and also why we like the Arnold presses and it's one of our favorite exercises for the shoulders. And the next question was, when's the best time to implement sauna and cold therapy use? So the sauna has got some benefits, health benefits, potentially some muscle building and fat burning benefits. And then cold therapy, same immune boosting, constipulate the central nervous system, get

you release neuropronephrine. When's the best time to use and pre-workout, post-workout, rest days, morning night, find out in the set. You mean the playbook. And the last question, do we think the younger generation is becoming less and less connected? There's no hope for them. To religion.

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Ooh, so pretty maps fitness products.com. Go check it out. Ready? Really? Is that obnoxious enough? Hey, tell me tell me you just watched the Mr. Rogers. Oh, damn it. I told the quart, we were gonna watch it. We didn't.

Sorry, man. Oh my god. You guys were raving about it. I haven't seen it. I know you guys so well. When I give recommendations to you guys to listen, think just have faith in your blood. I watched the other one, though.

Oh, you did watch rules of engagement. Yeah, yeah, it was funny. I mean, that was like old school. I didn't think it was like an old school kind of like sitcom. Oh, it gets better, dude. Okay. Yeah, sexist. Yeah, it's totally, that was like old school. I didn't think it was like an old school kind of like sitcom. Oh, it gets better, dude. Okay. Yeah, sexist. Yeah, it's silly.

That's great. It's very happened up a little bit. No, Mr. Rogers was insane. Epic. Well, he's a brilliant, brilliant, brilliant communicator, child communicator. You said you're like moved. And like, yeah, I cried.

Yeah, I cried. So I told, we were texting back and forth. And he told me how good it was. And I said, bro, it was so good. I Yeah, I cried. So I told, we were texting back and forth and he told me how good it was and I said, bro, it was so good. I said, I got emotional watching it. So Katrina fell asleep and I stayed up watching. I was so enthralled by it.

Yeah. And, you know, I got choked up a few times just, and I'll tell you why, you can just think about it's me a little choked up just. One of the things I grew up in, you know, with seven years old on, I was introduced to, you know, with seven years old on, I was introduced to, you know, Christianity and many other denominations.

And, you know, I saw a lot of hypocrisy. So I have a really bad taste in my mouth about religion in general and a lot of the people. And I guess less of religion, a lot of the people that are within a lot of religion. Yeah, institution of it. Yeah, right. So that are within a lot of religion. Yeah. The institution of it. Yeah, right.

So that's a probably good way to say it. And so, when I see someone like him who I've watched as a kid and I see what he did, and I had no idea that he was going to be an ordained minister and that's what he was on pace for. And to me, that's really what Christianity or religion, any good religion is all about, is it's more about what he was doing then professing. He never professes. Yeah, nobody knew it, but what he was doing,

the kindness that he did and the amount of lives that he probably saved and potentially impacted, is probably greater than most men actions reflected his morals and his beliefs. Well, he was such a brilliant child communicator, like for example, okay, and when I'm watching his stuff, and I watched him when I was a kid too,

and when you're watching documentary, you realize how different his show was and how different he was in the way communicated to kids versus how everybody else communicates to kids. When you watch cartoons or TV, that's aimed at children, it's quick cuts, it's fast pace, it's boom, man, this is funny. Whoa, yeah, everything's changing all over the place. It's crazy.

When you watch Mr. Rogers, he's communicating to the child, he's saying good messages, and it's slow. And that's an important one. There was a part where they talk about that he intentionally would do that. You would create silence. Yes, that he loved that. Because he'd teach the children how to be okay

with being with themselves and to think. So one of the clips that they showed in the documentary, which I thought was brilliant from a child standpoint, as he said, okay, children, you guys ever wonder how long a minute takes? And he goes, he goes, let's watch the counter for one minute so we know how long it takes. He turns the timer one minute and then sits in silence.

And the kids are watching the timer. And you know what's funny? I know as a kid, I would have watched it the whole time because I would have been curious. How long has a minute? Let me watch this thing count down a minute and sit quietly. But meanwhile, like producers and every like, oh my god, I was dead air.

You know, they talk about it. They talk about it and the thing how like that it was like this common theme that everybody was like, it drove them all crazy like But he loved to because like Sal said there was intention behind what he was doing It was like he was lost for words or he was he was like this is he felt that it was an important lesson to teach Teach these kids to be okay with Moving slow and being appreciative of being by themselves in time and present.

What a lost art. Yeah, and they're crazy. Oh my God. And it's funny, there's so much in the documentary. He has this eclectic staff of people that work for him to help make the show possible. Like one dude is this kind of rough, you know, biker looking guy, cusses a lot, whatever.

He's got this other African-American gay dude that works for him, which by the way, when Mr. Roger being a minister, 1968, by the way. Finds out the guy's gay. He basically tells him, I love you the way you are. And then the dude started crying when he was talking

about, he goes, he goes, I don't realize, he goes, you were singing to me when you were singing. I love you the way you are. And he goes, yeah, I've been doing that for the last, you know, several years. He said he was singing to him and he just, he love you the way you are. And he goes, yeah, I've been doing that for the last, you know, several years. Yeah, two years he said he was singing too many. And he just, he put it together after two years.

And he said, wow, you were singing to me. I mean, it was, it was giving me the chills to talk about. The scene that blew me the fuck away though was during this period of time you had the Nixon administration was coming in the office. And there were threatening to cut funding for public television. Okay, that's a whole different discussion. Nonetheless, you know, Mr. Rogers was a TV show that was on PBS. It was entirely funded through taxpayers.

It wasn't funded any other way. And so they were going to cut it. And so what he had to do was he had to go before Congress to appeal to them to try and stop cutting of the funding. Now before that, there were several people that, that I can't remember the guy's name. There was one dude that had to that basically had to decide one guy in government And there were several people that went before the sky and pleaded for them though the kids need this and we need this and what you know And he's shot them all down shot them all down. Yeah, then he's then then he said I'll listen to one more person Basically, he's like I'm not gonna change my mind, but I'll listen to one more person. Basically, he's like, I'm not gonna change my mind,

but I'll listen. But even before he says that, he says like, just please do not read a 12 minute long paper or what he tells him like, no more and Mr. Rogers has prepared a long, long, yeah. So of course. So Fred Rogers goes over there and basically, I, you know, I'm not gonna do a justice,

you have to watch the documentary, but tells him what he says to children. Like this is the message I'm trying to tell children and he says it to him, but he says it to him as if he's saying it to a child. Which you think he sings it to him. He sings it to him. Yeah, in Congress.

He's like gonna be patronized. The man, the same guy who was like, no, we're canceling it, you guys shut up, all these teachers talking on everybody's pleading, he's like, no, no, no, Mr. Rogers sings a song to him, and the man, you can tell, almost starts crying, and he goes, and he stops and he goes, enough said, right?

Well, that was just beautiful, that was beautiful, enough said, we're gonna keep it. And you're like, whoa! He would change his mind like that. Super powerful. Such a fucking... Well, what I thought was really fascinating too, and why I was glad you watched it I'm gonna change this line like that. Super powerful. Such a fucking good. Well, what I thought was really fascinating too,

and why I was glad you watched it so we can kind of discuss it is, one, he starts at 1968, and this is really the boom of television. Television is becoming a, everyone's starting to get them in their homes and the consumption of it, right? It reminds me a lot of what we're seeing

as far as the consumption of social media now. Right, that didn't exist in our time, right? We were around on the creation of it and we are now watching the explosion of it. You are not a 12 year old right now, or 15 year old, let's say it's a better age because maybe 12 year olds are getting police by parents, 15 year old,

and you do not have a Twitter, Facebook, Instagram or one of those YouTube or one of those accounts right there. So this explosion of social media and he saw this in television and his and he had this major concern because he saw what a powerful tool this new medium was. Never before have we been able to create communities of people all over the world through this centralized boob tube. And he saw that as such a powerful tool

and a potentially dangerous one if we weren't careful with the message that we were giving children. And he wanted to give kids, he thought kids needed a better message. He thought they needed to be spoken to differently, they need to be, he said their feelings, one thing that he says is children's feelings are just as powerful as adults feelings.

So we need to consider them and take them into account. Something I didn't know about Mr. Roger's TV show, it was extremely controversial. He would actually tackle real problems like assassination. There was an assassination that happened in the nation at the time. Who was? Kennedy, wasn't it? I don't know.

But he's gonna talk about it with the puppets because he says the way you can communicate with puppets is more effective. You can say certain things that maybe you can't say as an adult. So he talked about that. He talked about divorce because divorce was skyrocketing. He talked about war. He talked about all because divorce was skyrocketing. Oh wow. He talked about war

He talked about all these but he did it through The story through story, but he also didn't sugarcoat it right like he would say seeing things like you know What's assassination and then the the little you know cat puppet is talking to the king puppet and whatever and I'm I did not know that he No, I watched it and was obviously, I consumed it and was into it. It sucked me in as a child. And I had no idea what I was being taught watching it. Looking back now, I'm like, well, how brilliant was that?

He literally was handling shit that is going on in the adult world. He is now communicating it so kids can understand it. And like, what a power. Now, if you're a parent and you do a good job of doing that Kudos to you I think that's why we're as parents I think you're supposed to do that. But let's be honest a good majority of parents probably are not paying attention to the news

That the kids are also seeing and consuming and then sitting down every night going like hey, son Let me talk to you about all these riots that we just saw or this police shooting that we just let me explain like they're not doing that Like there's a lot a lot of them are not doing that. It's important to do so, but I tell you dude, you will get them, especially if you have a sought, like when it comes to children, I have a real, real soft spot. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm sure it'll affect me.

Oh bro, you see the way he talks to the kids and the kids face lights up and then there was one kid, who's in a wheelchair who had terrible condition, so most of his body was atrophied. And he talks to the kid like a, you know, like a, it doesn't talk down to him. He has a conversation with him. And the kid hugs him and they sing together about, you know, that you're special just because you are who you are, not because you're hair, not because you're fancy chair, whatever.

And they sing the song and you're watching this and you're just like, if you don't cry, you're not, you're not here. You're not a fucking human man. I was watching you know She's like wiping her face and she looks at me and I'm like yeah me too. Yeah, yeah It was a it was a pretty damn good document highly record Well, we definitely need that for social media. I mean, they're just there's just nothing out there I know of has like kind of moral like fabric and structured, you know Like out there that the people are putting out. You have to, I mean, it's a powerful, the powerful tools.

And so it can be used, it's an very influential. And so I hate it when people say things like video games and TV shows and music don't influence kids. At the same time, you know, we're spending billions of dollars on advertising to get people to do certain things. Of course all these things influence kids. It's so stupid when people argue that. Well, we don't know video games don't influence children.

Well, fucking now they do. You might not know. Storylines, yeah. They put directly in there to get you first in the game. You know what? That is actually something that I wanted to look into statistic wise after watching that show was the difference in consumption, as a consumer, as an American,

from the 70s to now. Because he makes that kind of argument too, or makes that point of, you know, all of a sudden, these kids are getting marketed to an advertised at five, six years old, which before that never happened. Like a kid doesn't pick up a newspaper or a magazine

and get advertised to, where now we have this new medium that they're watching cartoons or their show, and then all of a sudden, they showed this in the documentary. It cuts to commercial, and it's toy guns, and they're pertaining to shoot each other, and then the gun comes out of the TV, and they land the kids' lap, the cats like, yeah, no, it's totally right, and then the kids all,

oh my God, I want that. You know, like, and that is, you know, our generation, right? So as kids, we were in, you know, has that turned us all into this, and you hear the saying, like, the keeping up with the Joneses, and we're so driven by all these things, right? Like, man, was that a big turning point for us that caused that? Like, was it pre-precied 68? You know, was it less? Did people care less about having

things and so on and has that exploded? Was that pro, was that part of the reason? Was, you know, from the age from our childhood all the way on, we've been marketed to on all having all these things heavily marketed. Well, the, it's ingrained in my brain. I mean, I remember all the fucking jingles for every single commercial I've ever experienced as a kid. It was just so impactful. The big thing for me was just the pace. The pace of his show, it was so popular,

but the pace was slower and he talked to the kids. And when you watch all TV shows for kids today, the pace is so fast, and they're on their own devices, they're on electronic devices. Their fucking attention is being split into 50 million different pieces, and on top of it, they're not moving and not active. I mean, of course, you're gonna have a shit ton of ADD and eight,

I mean, it's just insane, I know how I get when I'm watching shit all the time versus when I sit quietly by myself outside or something like that, it's very, very different. So, that was a big one for me. Anyway, you were saying just in how California now is becoming like a stoner's paradise. Yeah, it is.

Like think about this, right? Like I know some of my stoner friends growing up and like as far as like that. I mean, that was like a big stigma. It was like, they're always at home playing video games. You know, they're, you know, smoking and like you can't get them out of the house, they're doing anything and whatever.

Now think about this, there's jobs specifically to play video games, right? To do things from your house, you can literally call, get pizza to come, you know, deliver. And now you can even get weed to come right to your doorstep. How beautiful is this? This is like Utopia. That's crazy.

It is kind of a crazy 180 that we've made because it wasn't that long ago was it, you know, such a, there was such a stigma around it and it was, you know, illegal. You couldn't even have it. Now, not like it's almost absurd to think about. Right. It could be brought to you already. You know what, what trips me out. So now we have like companies like E's, right?

E's one of our new sponsors and they deliver cannabis to your already. You know what trips me out. So now we have like companies like ease, right? Ease is one of our new sponsors and they deliver cannabis to your door. 30 years ago, that would have got you thrown in jail for a long time. Right. That must be weird for someone like you, Doug, because you spooky, spooky, spooky, spooky. During the Roman days. No, you, you, it must be weird to you to see this car's in vehicles. So, yeah, exactly. Airplay, he's like flying objects. No, it must be strange to see like branded cannabis products, you know, jars with labels, nice and clean and they bring it to you in the back to your door

That must be fucking weird, dude. It's very strange. Yeah, I mean after doing that five years of time at The big house I'm a little pissed off for carrying an ounce here for carrying an ounce and that's what's even crazier to some people or Prisoned over some bulls. So. So I took home those edible gummies that we had getting. Oh, you took them. Okay, that was good. You gotta keep them from me.

It's fine. I took home those edible gummies that we ordered and they were five milligrams THC, five milligrams CBD. Yesterday, Jessica and I were in at St. Tana Row. Actually had a great day yesterday. We got up, or I don't know if you guys ever do this, got up early and we're like, let's go get coffee. So we drove to get coffee through the drive through.

And then I'm like, I don't wanna go home. Let's go on a drive. So we like, let's go to 17 mile drive. On the way to 17 mile drive, we're driving through Morgan Hill. I'm like, let's look at some new houses out here. So we just, the whole day was totally unstructured. By the way, Morgan Hill, I would, you know, after looking at that and driving around the town

and I've been there enough times, I think that's the place to be, man. I would see you like it. Probably be right if we all move there. Bro, it's, that would persuade me to go that way. You get better house, more house for the cost, and it's, San Jose's getting too fucking city. You know what I mean?

It's too city. Morgan, you gotta better feel. Back door to you guys, too heck her pass,? It's too city. More than anything. I can get a better feel. Back door to you guys to heck her pass, so it's all good. Yeah, that's right. But anyway, we're doing all that, and I took one of these gummy edibles, and we went to Santana Ro, and I ate the edible.

We're at Santana Ro, we're sitting at, I think it was left bank, and the contis is over. So I'm like, I'm gonna have a drink. Yeah. So I order a nice glass of wine. And I hadn't eaten much during the day because we were looking at houses and stuff in Morgan Hill. I start drinking that and I'm starting to get a buzz

off of one glass of wine. Oh, sure. Forgot that I had taken the edible. So I'm already here. Here comes. Yeah, I'm sitting there. I'm getting a little tipsy. Boom. Edible hits me. Oh boy. Good times.

A little double whammy. A little double whammy. A double whammy. So Santana Ro. I did the same thing, not with the Edible though. So I was over at my, my family, Katrina's family, her brother, my brother-in-law, and nephew, and niece, and stuff, and hanging out with all of them, and we were barbecuing.

And it was cool because my brother-in-law heard the episode already, and he said he ordered on, on ease already too. So he's like, oh dude, I heard heard the the new sponsor, man, we call five friends that were like so stoked. Oh, yeah. No. So I'm really excited about the campaign because I knew that we had,

I mean, it's unfortunate that it's only in California, but we have enough people connected to us in California that I've figured, why would you not use this company? They go to your favorite dispensaries. They pick it up to you. It's delivered. It's so easy. So anyways, we are there and we're not playing ping pong

and hanging out. And my brother comes over and brings me a Moscow mill. And he's like, hey, your competition's over. And he brings me the Moscow mill. And so I'm like, oh, okay. I wasn't planning on it, but I'll have some. Man, I only had half of that thing. And I would felt so, God, I'm so sensitive to alcohol.

It's crazy because I don't drink as it is. And then being lean and having had it a while and I'm sure he's got a heavy hand, halfway through that thing. Am I done playing ping pong barefoot on the concrete? And so right now, if I were to take my socks off you guys would see these big ass fucking band-aids that I have.

What happened? You got massive blisters on my fucking feet right now. It's like an ass laying hard, huh? You're a little too competitive. Well, I'm very competitive and it's, and so are they. Speed were like super-shipped. It is not like normal ping pong over there. There's serious shit-talking going on

and yelling over like the where it scored it. And you're already tipsy? Yes, yes. So I just was numb to the idea, but my feet were like, either they were burning because the sun on the concrete, not because they were getting blistered up. No, you're your friend Flintstone. Oh, dude, it's so how big of, how big of pussies have we become that if we walk or do anything barefoot, our feet get shredded? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you're really like hunter gatherers, they could freaking walk on pillows forever. Yeah. I mean,

these these cushy souls as a kid We used to and this was something we used to do. We used to go we used to race barefoot on gravel So I as a kid I can't even stand on the gravel. Yes, so as a kid Because we grew up in you know the country right so and we were we had this little doughboy pull outside and it was very normal To not wear shoes and just play outside in the dirt and the rocks and I think back to that like how condition my feet were outside compared to now or like you know this little thing I'll blistered up and now I feel fucking I'm in all this pain today where you know as a kid if we did we used to

we used to do foot races on our gravel driveway and I I think like, oh my God, I walked over some, like the ping pong ball went rolling over into some gravel yesterday. And I remember walking across it's like, oh, yeah. Yeah, dude, it's like, wow, we are so deconditioned to that. That's me every time we go creek walking. You know, I'm like, I gotta get like shoes.

Otherwise, I'm done. All these little jagged edges and rocks. You mean that nerd with the water shoes? Yeah. I got my water socks. Hey guys. That's what I'll be wearing. You mean that nerd with the water shoes? Yeah. They got me water socks. Hey guys. That's what I'll be wearing. You took those, didn't you?

I did. I took the ones that, I don't know what company sent them to us. Yeah. They weren't very attractive, but they feel comfortable. I think I'm gonna wear them on platypus feet when I go to Hawaii or whatever. There you go. Speaking of which, Justin, you're gonna be gone. Woo!

Yeah, man. I know, I know. It's just, it's just quite crazy. It hasn't really hit me yet completely, but. So parents are watching the kids. Parents, both parents, so like her parents, my parents, we got split time. You know, they're all set up.

And that's where a lot of the stress is Courtney's just making sure like everything is dialed for every day. They have like a list of like every scenario. And I'm like, they're professionals, they were parents once too. You know, it's going to be all right. But yeah, really just about making sure everybody's good

and accounted for. But we're super, super excited, man. I mean, this is going to be like an adventure. And it's really just like that reconnection. And you know, more equity back in the relationship, you know, we have. And we've done this for 10 years, like we need a new experience together to share. So that was a thought going into it.

And your friends or family out there that you're gonna visit? You know, not a lot, but we do have some in Ireland that I might, you know, connect with. But I mean, that's sort of loosely planned. Really, this is just about us, like going on, you know, checking out castles and like really just like getting into the history and like looking at everything. And yeah, I can't wait.

I might even golf on there. So that was like a thing. Because dude, if you're gonna golf, you want to golf in Scotland. Is that, I have no idea. Is that supposed to be like, that's where it came from. That's like that's where oh really. Oh, if you guys never seen the Robin Williams like Stand up when he goes into the the creation of golf. No, oh When we're over at this podcast we will YouTube that and watch that because it's one of my favorite Pieces to all of his stand-up he does he does he goes on how golf was invented and it's hilarious.

We'll talk to him afterwards. I'm trying to convince Courtney to get into it, but yeah, I like golf. I like going and walking the course and at my own pace and I'm not good at it, but it's like I like to just play, you know, that's one of those leisure things I like to do. So we have that golf series up right on our YouTube channel. Yeah, we had Brandon Harris over from PFS and he did a really fantastic job at breaking

down like, you know, mobility and things to really enhance your game even further and breaks it down nicely. Or are you, can you bring back some kilts for us? I have, that's, they're expensive. Oh, are they really? Oh, are they really? Oh, forgive me. I would, like, it depends.

Like, if I just got you a real chinsie one, it'd be almost like getting you a school girl, you know, skirt or something. No, the real ones are like, yeah, they're expensive. But I'm debating on getting one for myself, but I'm definitely gonna bring back some whiskey. So we're gonna pour, you know, one that, there's distilleries there that actually, I'm definitely gonna bring back some whiskey. So we're gonna pour one that there's distilleries there that actually I'm gonna go on tour,

and then at the end you bottle your own, which I'm really excited about. You guys are gonna party hard. When's the last time? Yeah, maybe. When's the last time you and your wife had a prolonged pretty time without any other responsibilities but yourselves?

Yeah, I mean, it could be dangerous. That's the same, bro. Yeah, right. I don't know what's gonna happen. That's what's so great. Like, this is like totally adventure city. Here's what's good. Have you set sex goals for yourself?

I mean, I'm trying to pace myself. Yeah. I mean, like, hopefully, yeah. Like, I don't want to come on too strong. What if she wears you out? You know what I mean? What if you're the one like, like, she might, like, she hasn't had this kind of freedom

in like responsibilities like wait, like that's really all it's been is like peeling back all these like, so I don't know. She may be back to her old Tomcat ways. Oh my God. I'm so excited. We're gonna do it over and under. In bathrooms.

Yeah, I mean like you're doing over under. Yeah. Oh yeah, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be wheel bearing. Here's her all over the place. Here's your, this could be honest. You're so romantic. I can't imagine, I'm gonna be I'm gonna be wheelbarrowing her all over the place Just gonna be honest. You're so romantic. I can't imagine I can't imagine much. She just just get wet Hey, baby wheelbarrow Will barrel tonight Happy anniversary. Well, I'm not gonna like advertise that but that's might happen

It gives her a card. Yeah, I'm saying like oh my god Oh, it's the other romantic shit. You know, leading up to that. I'm so proud of it. It's the open to the card. Oh my God, 10 year anniversary card. This is so nice. Baby, what would you like for 10 year anniversary?

A, B or C jackhammer, but wheelbarrow, upside down, you know, goblins or chips. Yeah. It's gonna get weird. You're gonna party hard. I just what I predict. I predict that you are going to, and I want $10 if I'm right.

You're going to have sex or some kind of sexual thing in public, somewhere, probably in a castle. That's gonna happen. Probably in a castle. In a castle. For sure. Like, they're gonna go up to the top of the castle. No one's gonna be there.

Or at least like some frisky BJ or something. Yeah, something that's like a little off the path. Is that still happening after 10 years and two kids? Bro, it happened one time. I told you I got roadhead one time just randomly. And I was like, whoa! This was a throwback. Yeah, so you never know, man, that's what I love about her.

She just like kind of keeps me on my toes. So yeah, I'm excited. I don't know, it's gonna happen. When do you give her keeps me on my toes. So yeah, I'm excited. I don't know. It's gonna happen. When do you give her road head? Well, I see I'm always ready for that, but that's a little more involved. Caught pulls him over. He looked down.

He's into like the foot, the foot, the rut well or whatever. Like she'll have to pretend she's a statue or something. At least. I'm like, it's a statue. He's cleaning the statue. I don't even dare ask my girl to do shit in public because it'll fucking go crazy. Some always like no babe.

No, we can't break the law. I mean, we still have some governings in place. You don't have that. Well, while you're gone, you're gonna miss, and I don't wanna say too much, so I'm gonna ruin the surprise for everybody, but you're gonna miss, and I don't want to say too much, so I'm gonna ruin the surprise for everybody, but you're gonna miss the big launch. No!

Yeah. I put so much effort in, you know, like, I want to see this, dude. I think that brings down your cut to 13% actually. Yeah. Damn it. I am, man. I'm fucking, I always get so excited before we launch a new Maps program.

So this, and this one is one of my favorites. I'm not gonna say anything else because I want to keep this. I feel like we say that every time. This is the one I'm running, like, me when I get back. I was my plan, yeah. Oh, you for sure. Yeah, I love everything in this program. Yeah, so I'm excited to see what ends up.

No, I'm excited about it too. I think Katrina's going through right now and she's loving every bit of it, so it's pretty cool. So about halfway through your trip, I'm going to go to, I'm going to Maui. Yeah, what's there where I was doing? No, I'm kind of cutting out.

So I'm going to Maui, we're only doing six days, but we're going to go and do, you know, like the drives and the trails and just kind of try and see most of the island or whatever and enjoy ourselves. Just Jessica and I, So that's gonna be a lot of fun. Sweet. And did you plan anything with Katrina while we're gone? I have not. And the reason why I haven't, I'm gonna go broke right now because she's just, she's spending the fuck out of money right now because we, part of the deal when we moved,

remember I made a big deal about getting rid of everything. And part of that was, part of that fight was this, was like, this is going back and forth, and I'm like, no, nothing goes. We throw everything away. I'm like, listen, I will buy whatever we need. Like if you throw that spatula away, and the next time you need a new spatula,

you get a new new spatula, you don't say whatever. I do a lot of shopping. Oh, well, I've been every weekend is, you know, every weekend's a five grand dent in my pocket. You know what I'm saying? So it's been one after, and we just finished the guest room, right?

So we went out, and by the way, the new, and I just bought the Sony Bravia OLED 90 series TV. It's like the fucking catalog. That was a lot of stuff. Yeah, no Doppest TV that you can get right now like not specific at all. Yeah, and so what's so what's so dope about it? It's just the clarity the clarity of it is like 4k or whatever. Yeah, of course. It's all it's all the all the basic stuff to But like can you talk can you talk to it? Oh, of course. Yeah You can do a lot of stuff and it's built in smart

So it already has the Netflix already I mean disappointed otherwise you're always a guy that had the leading edge like TV like I go over and it's like holy shit Yeah, they make these yeah, so the newest ones cool you guys will see it when you guys come out and they don't you don't do the curve Screen right like a flat one. Yeah, it's a it's a thin so OLED the newest one So it's the newest technology the, the next level to the LED. And it's, so anyways, we set that up in the, and we also bought the whole spare. So now we have a nice spare bedroom.

So when someone comes and stays the night there, they've got a nice bed and all that's all set up and then the TV inside there and everything we got it up. But anyways, I've been spending money so much every weekend. I'm like, oh my, we were gonna go do like Cabo or we were even considering Hawaii, why you were out there. And I'm like, I don't know, man, like do we,

come say hi dude. Just come say hi. I'm just, you know, and I'm, you know me, I'm all good about spending money, but like it's been every weekend, it's been like literally like a five grand dump or more. It's tough to stomach when it's all hitting you. Well, you know what, you can also do is you don't have to go

far away and spend money, you could do something local. Well, so that, more than likely what we'll do, I know because everybody's gone that Katrina and I will get away for at least three days or three or four days. And what we typically do on a trip like that is We'll head down south to the cliffs and go where we can take the dogs that we wouldn't get a dog center They can go with us. It's all I'm really paying is a hotel fee every night

Which that's not a big deal because a Hawaii trip a big Mexico trip those things, you know, those run me a Few thousand dollars minimums to yeah to do that. So, we'll, a bare minimum will do a small trip. Depending on how I'm feeling over the next week, we'll decide if we're gonna go like to Mexico or Hawaii or somewhere. That's awesome. You know what I hate about buying the latest technology? He's that it's old in six months. FAST!

And whatever you spend on, you're like, I want the bet you go and you get the best TV transaction. And it's like, yeah, $5,000. You're old. You're old. $7,000, like, it's amazing TV. And literally the next year, you could buy it for like $1,200. Like, ah!

Yeah, so bad. Yeah, so frustrating. It's so frustrating. It's pretty cool though, because now, I mean, the TVs are getting way more reasonable from what they used to be. I mean, it's super. The prices have gone way down. So, the main cool feature is that it's smart, right?

You can like just basically have like your internet is on your TV now. Yeah, exactly. That's, and it's all controlled through that. It's all voice activated. The one I have too, it's all automatically linked to Google, Android's, and like, so all your phones, you can access and control

everything from that phone. So that's cool, yeah. Yeah, so it's got a lot of cool, it's got so many features on there I haven't even messed with it. The thing I look for is the quality and the pictures and then the type of stuff that you watch. I don't know if you guys are watching.

Did you guys watch Ozark? Did you guys watch Ozark? No, I saw you post about that. Yeah, I saw you post about that. So season two is out, just got released. And it's a very dark show. The whole show seems like it's never in the daylight. It's always this overcast, really dark colors.

And we were what we watched the first episode, I think, before we had the TV, we were watching on the laptop. And it's like, I'll get pissed off. I'm like having to like tilt the, the laptop screen. Oh, you can't see. Yeah, it's so dark. And there's scenes where I feel like I don't even, I don't even know what was going on because it's so dark where, you know, these, the technology and some of these new TVs,

I mean, if you feel like you're in the room. It's almost too clear and too real. Might see the props. Yeah, one of my, like I used Avatar the movie to kind of like decide which TV I wanted to get because like they have, you could get like so much more detailed based off of like how they like made that movie to where it's so interesting to watch.

I literally got more out of watching that movie on my TV at the time that I did watching it in the theater in 3D. It was crazy. Just because you could catch more fine details. Did you get a separate sound system to go with it? I know sometimes the TVs don't have a great because they're so thin, right? Right. So I have already my onkyo and DCM speakers that I had. And so that's the spare room setup really. So this is what we did.

This is kind of different, right? You'll appreciate this because I know you you're all about like, you know, making spaces in your house like usable. So something that we agreed on like, okay, we have these three three bedrooms. We have two like living room loft areas and a dining something that we agreed on, like, okay, we have these three, three bedrooms. We have two, like, living room loft areas in a dining room. And we're like, you know, one of the things that we decided was, hey, when we, when we, when we start building this, we're doing it from scratch, and we have no furniture, let's look at the room. And let's, how would we get the most use out of it? Like, and so we, of course, we wanted a spare room because we have company and friends and family always kind of staying. But I'm like, okay, well, if they're not staying here,

how are we gonna use it? And Katrina's been hard on this, and this has been tough for me because up into her, up until her, I've always had a bad ass TV in my bedroom. Just been, I've always had that since I was fucking teenager all the way up. And she's really anti TV in the bedroom.

And I respect that. I respect that, you know, I know the studies on it and what it says for couples that have TVs in the bedroom versus couples that do not. And, you know, the intimacy that happens more often when you don't have that. And so I respect all that we're working on. So that's been a compromise that I've made.

But it's driven, driven me crazy because we still bring the laptop into the bedroom and then we watch it on Netflix. Yeah, what the fuck is the difference, right? So if we're gonna stick to that rule, let's stick that rule. So part of our idea was, okay, and then I also am like anti-eating in the bed, right? I don't wanna eat food in the bed, eat crumbs in the cup.

No way. Right, so we've now converted to this guest room. So it's all really nice bed in there and bed set and then the surround sound and the badass TV is all in this guest room. So it's all really nice bed in there and bed set and then the surround sound and the bad ass TV is all in this guest room. So we now, we like last night, we set up, you know, brought the popcorn and everything in the bedroom.

It's like a movie room. It's a movie room. Oh yeah. Slash guest room. Especially for you, you enjoy watching TV and movies so much. Like you enjoy the experience of it, I should say. Like that is a wonderful use of that space.

Right, so I love that, like, we'll use that as our TV kind of movie room that we can hang out and we can eat, we can eat on top of the bed, we can do whatever the fuck we want in there. And then, when we're done in there, we go to our bedroom, and then, if we have guests, then they can sleep in there. So that's how we've designed that room. That's awesome. Yeah, when I was looking at some of those places in Morgan Hill, there was this one massive home

that I was looking at. And you know, you look around and it's gorgeous and then you start to realize, what do I do with all this? What would I do with all this space? You guys, do you guys run into that when you're looking at them? Oh yeah, no, it's just you're trying to figure out,

like, okay, well, there's like three lofts. Like, what am I gonna do with all? I'm like, this one I can make a game room. Yeah. What am I gonna do with this one? And what am I gonna do with that? I'm like this one, I can make a game room. What am I gonna do with this one and what am I gonna do with that one? But one of the houses that I saw that I really liked was they had one of the bedrooms was like a spare, it was almost like a guest house.

So like in this room was a living room, a bedroom, and like a little kitchen. I thought that was really cool. That is cool. Yeah, cause it had its own entrance. So if you have like family. It was like sub-leaser, yeah, or it is. Well family is a, yeah, because,

a way I look at it, and I'm not, I'm not nowhere near ready to do any of this, but in the future, that's gonna be what I'm looking for because, you know, what if you need to take care of your parents or whatever as they get older, they could just live in your guest room but also have the autonomy and freedom that it's kind of like their own house,

almost put its attached. I would have to have something like that, if I were to take on my mom or something, like she would have to have her own sex. Exactly. Exactly. It's the only way it would exist for me. Like it's like either that or I would pay for it.

Actually, I live in somewhere else. Yeah. I'm sorry. Are we doing an unboxing? We haven't done a lot. Whoa. Yes indeed. Bringing it back, it's a big box.

It's a huge box. What did you do? I'm so hungry Doug, please tell me guys. I'm gonna be so excited what's in this huge box. Is there a picture? You being sarcastic right now? Maybe. Maybe.

You're cleaning some flies. Yeah it is, it is good. Damn it, it's good. Oh! I just love opening these boxes. So let's see what we got from the thrive market today. I'm glad we brought this back because I liked when you were shopping for us.

Yeah. So I did shop for you, but it's nothing like huge for you, but very personalized, all right? Huh, okay. Cool. So we know Justin's heading out on an airplane tomorrow. Yeah, man. And so we got to get him some peanuts for the road. Oh, I have a good point.

I love his peanuts. Thank you. I love peanuts. Now Adam, I gotta say peanuts. I can find yours in here. I'm not sure it might be a this one right here. Nope, that's not, this is a practical item for the studio. It's our disinfectant spray from seventh generation.

I like that stuff. It's good, yeah, I use that for the sauna. I spray that in the sauna all the time. Right. Good for spraying on the microphones, the pop filters on the headphones when we have guests. I need that for mine. I get the most. Yeah, we get a little stick coming out there.

Of course, we always know that Sal loves his macadamia nuts. Oh, macadamia Sal's what is macadamia. Yes, thank you Now being very practical and wanting to help you save you know another $5,000 going out this coming weekend I bought you something for your house You use I got this in every bathroom I have in my house. I love that so Bronner's peppermint soap. So this stuff is so good. I just got introduced my last order is I got the The peppermint soap bars for a Bronners Don't don't you go off with it though burn the show. Yeah, I've done it is it is my favorite soap

Right the peel I also get I get their shaving cream. They're shaving gel. It's great. It works well I use one of those brushes, you know, cuz I'm the old guy. Sorry. Oh my god He's a use an old school brush. Oh, I do man throw back. I use a old-fashioned razor too with the double-sided Oh, wow. Yeah, I love that thing But you get a little that in your mouth. It actually tastes good It's funny because I think they use glycerin which is kind of sweet. Yeah, and in the peppermint Not that I eat it, but it's a really all right So the rest of this stuff and the reason for this massive box is some practical things for the studio. Oh, okay

That's what that's what I pay for now everybody's always asking do we have any forks? Do we have any for oh? Thank you. Okay. These are come put compostable BPA free Forks and knives and same thing everything that we need for the studio. What does that mean? What does that mean if they're there? Compostable?

That means they bury it and it actually breaks down. It breaks down. It'll disintegrate. It'll disintegrate. Unlike the normal forks that the future humans of the, you know, 10,000 years are going to find and figure us out. Yeah, so we also got compostable cups. Nuclear fallout.

Those forks. What is that? Yeah, so we also got compostable cups. Nuclear fallout. Bulls. What is that? I have no idea. And plates. Excellent. So everything we need for... Oh, I know it.

Okay, I bought myself something. Oh, what did you do to it? I don't know what they had to put it in this big thing. I guess they're a great way to do it. Compostable depends. Yeah. Chocolate. Of course, you got your chocolate. Got some chocolate. That's your chocolate that's what I got for myself. You know goes well chocolate peanuts and that is

Let's combine Doug awesome Doug. Thank you. By the way, I ate all of the the Ben Greenfield Keon bar Bro, I know you dick. So I'm so glad I do this right so I hungry for one They're fucking good bro. They're good I had one ship to my house because of the, because I knew you guys would eat, I didn't realize you'd eat them that fast. It was just came in like two days ago. So somebody's eaten them by the fucking force. Yeah, yeah.

So I don't know what it means. But they really are good. I mean, he's got a, he's just reformulated this one too. This is his most recent one, right? Cause we, we tried his original bars out what six months ago, what was going through the hole. This one's not made with quinoa, it's... Caniwa.

Caniwa. Caniwa. Sounds like, you remember in like a temple doom where the priest got his... Caniwa. Caniwa. Doug did Ben hook us up with a, do we have a discount?

I don't know if there's a discount, but we do have a code here. It's get cayion, which is G-E-T-K-I-O-N dot com forward slash mine pump. Oh, see if we can get a discount. I think I think there is one already Okay, if he's got it if he's already got a link like that, well Ben's fucking legit man everything he does is legit No, no, I if I have a bar now I use one of their bars It's not super high on protein, but it's all natural and then the collagen protein is what it's good, dude. It's really good. Very tasty.

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for me, it was never hard to change my, to focus on gaining weight, because I was always trying to gain weight. For me, it was hard to try to be lean. That was very difficult because, I don't wanna lose weight, I was always trying to gain weight. For me, it was hard to try to be lean. That was very difficult because I don't want to lose weight. I don't want to be any smaller. And so when I was trying to get lean, I had to change my focus and rather than, I had to focus a lot on body fat percentage.

I would test my body fat percentage. And as I started to get leaner, because when you start getting lean, it first just looks smaller. So what I started to do is I just started getting definition, I wore more tank tops and workout, and that made me feel better about getting leaner. Now as far as gaining is concerned, hence the birth of the wife, Peter.

That's right. I wish I invented that thing. Tattoo, don't your body. If you, for gaining weight, what I tend to tell clients is, let's focus on your strength. Focus on your strength gains in the gym, because those typically are people feel positive about them, and rather than focusing on your weight,

let's not even use the scale right now. Let's just focus on how you look in the mirror, and your strength in the gym, and let's try to boost and build up your metabolism, because they're both different phases of your body, they're both different adaptations, but both of them are very important. If you just stay in a gaining phase all the time,

your body becomes desensitized to insulin, potentially become desensitized to proteins, and you start getting diminishing returns. If you just stay in a cut for long, you'll start to have slower metabolism, your performance will start to drop, and in order to maintain yourself at a lean body weight, you need to eat less and less food over a period of time.

So I think it's important for everybody to go through periods of both eating at a deficit and also eating in a surplus. I think that's important for anybody, regardless of what your ultimate goal is. Even if you want to maintain a shredded physique, you still should go through a period of some calorie surplus because you're just going to speed up your metabolism and make it easier for you to stay lean anyway. Yeah, I think it's imperative that you go through surplus, even though you love to be lean and that's

something that you want to maintain, you're around to be able to keep a healthy metabolism, like we need to interrupt that process, and we need to feed the body. And there's benefits that, like you're saying, performance-wise, adding in more calories, it's a dramatic boost and going through that for me was a dramatic process of adding carbohydrates and then fueling my workouts again, getting competitive with that internally. It's just, for me, that's always been a fun thing to begin with was really just enjoying the workouts themselves

and improving the skill of the workouts because then that translates to my body further. So I think you said it really said it best is that you just shift your focus on the things. When I'm leaning out, you're looking at things like vascularity and how small your waist is and how you're not holding water and your belt loop is coming in.

And like, so these are the things I'm like looking at. Like, oh, this is great. I'm in muscle separation. And that feels good and you probably really like it. And then you go to gaining weight or bulking and switch the other direction. And if you're still looking at all those same indicators as your measure of success,

it can get really daunting or frustrating, right? Because obviously if you increase calories, you do these things, good chances are you're going to hold more water, good chances are your waistlines going to go up, good chances are you're not going to see your cuts like you used to. So shifting your mentality on the things that you should be looking more at when you're bulking like your strength and your performance and your workouts. It's like how those are responding.

Like I love to look at it like that where when I and this is where I'm at right now. So I just we just did this six week cut. The last part of this cut I was in a very depleted state. I felt flat. I felt kind of weak. I was just kind of getting through the workouts. Now I felt cool. My waist, you know, I got to that point and I was know when I'm getting really lean is

my my elastic and my underwear starts to get some slack in it. Like that's when I know I'm getting really lean. And so I even started to see that right now. And so I just switched gears the other direction. Now I'm back to feeding myself. Well, one of the cool things about feeding myself is I get to eat more. I also notice my energy levels are up. Like I definitely notice my libido goes up. I notice my strength will go up. I'll get better pumps and better workouts. So I tend to focus on those parts of what gaining weight

and building looks like. And I'll do that for a little bit before I switch back to the other direction. And you gotta really make friends with your body. And what I mean by that is appreciate the different iterations of your body when it's healthy, okay? So can you be healthy and be leaner and can you be healthy and be heavier? Yes, there's actually a pretty wide range. Now of course, you can get too lean or get too heavy

and then your health will suffer. But within that there there's this range. Like, I know my body and I know that I can be, my health can be very, very good at 8% body fat, but I also know my health can be very, very good at 16% body fat, twice as much body fat. Both iterations of my body are very healthy. Both of them look different. Both of them have their own positives and their own negatives in the objective sense, but I love both of them.

Learn to make friends with your body as you're gaining strength, gaining muscle and gaining a little size, and also make friends with your body when you're getting lean, getting shredded and seeing more definition. Again, both of which can represent being healthy. When I say, a lot of times I would say things like, you got to train because you love your body, eat because you love your body, not because you hate your body. Your body comes in different shapes and sizes. I'm not talking about different people. I'm talking about yours. Your individual body comes in different shapes and sizes and

appreci all of them. You know, for women, for example, I remember, I just remember now a female client that I had a long time ago and she was so afraid of gaining any weight and that's because she'd always restricted her calories for so long. So when she came to me, we had very frank and honest discussions. And one of the things I told her was, look, you're going to have to be okay with gaining a little bit of weight and a little bit of body fat. You're really, really lean, you're too lean, you don't have your period, you've been doing this for too long, your metabolism is really slow, your performance is low, you're coming to me because you want to feel better, and part of you feeling better is going to be we need to feed your body and we have to allow you

to gain some weight. So we went through this process and it took us a little while to get comfortable with it, but after about six months, the things that she would say to me were things like, wow, I really am liking the little bit of curves that my body has. Ooh, I like the way I look in a dress now versus how I look before. And, you know, my boyfriend is commenting on these different things, and I feel a little bit more

womanly, and it's not that it was better than how she was before, is that she was learning to appreciate her body in a different, healthy iteration of itself. And so, learn to make friends with that because you are gonna go through periods of being a little heavier, being a little leaner. That's just how life works.

You gotta be okay with all of them so long as you're healthy. The next question is from the hungry trainer. Do you like the Arnold press? What are your favorite exercises for building the delts? Oh, it's cool. You guys ever wanna take a guess of who invented

the Arnold press? I have no idea. Arnold probably not right now. Yeah, I probably not right now. You know why Arnold did his shoulder presses this way. So when you do a body building shoulder press with dumbbells, right? Your palms are facing forward.

And you bring them down. Is that internal tension? And you're limited by your range of motion because the dumbbells will either hit your shoulders or I mean, there's only so far you can come, right? So what Arnold used to do, and one of the wonderful and brilliant things I loved about Arnold was during this period of time,

there wasn't a lot of science in regards to muscle building and training. A lot of it was bodybuilders experimented in creating the knowledge. And just like, okay, it was bodybuilders experimenting and creating the wrong knowledge. And just like, okay, this is what works as does, this doesn't work. And Arnold was a huge proponent of full range of motion exercises.

In fact, when you, when you watch the movie Pumping Iron, one of my favorite movies of all time, there's a scene where he's doing flies with dumbbells. And you can see he's alternating with another lifter, another bodybuilder. The bodybuilder that goes before him does these flies and they look good, good form and everything. Arnold gets on the bench and does his flies

and his range of motion was dramatic. I mean, the guy had massive pecs, massive shoulders, but when he lowered the dumbbells, they could almost touch the floor with how wide and range of emotion that he got. And when you read about, when you read the stuff that Arnold wrote about in those days, he always talked about full range of motion training, train within the fullest range of motion. And now we do have studies that show that full range of motion build more muscle than shorter ranges of motion. Even if you can use more weight with the shorter

range of motion, because I've heard that argument like, oh, I don't go as low, but I can add more weight, so it should be the same, or maybe I'm even better because I'm adding more weight. Not true, studies will show that. It's intensity that matters, and also range of motion matters. I mean, it's caused dysfunction.

Yeah, and so what Arnold did with the shoulder press is he took the dumbbells all the way down, could it go down any further, so then he supinated his hands or rotated them so they've pumped in, and now he could go all the way down with this shoulder press, and it became a much full-arrange emotion exercise. Now, in comparison between that and a traditional shoulder press, the Arnold press is one of the most functional, it's one of the most functional,

functional, repressing. There's a lot of like coaches out there too that they got me in the mindset of using a press with like a spiral pattern. Instead of like thinking of a press as like this static up and down, you know, whereas we got taught that a lot, you know, because of like the safety of,

you know, like 90 degrees and not going through this full range and putting stress on the rotators. I never subscribed to that because if I'm grabbing something functionally and I keep my limbs in close but I'm rotating and it's such a natural pattern for your shoulder to go through. I'm always trying to teach in that regard and then, you know, kettlebells are awesome for that because it kind of load nicely for that

to the outside of your hand, but like, yeah, dumbbells works just as good too. It's funny because the Arnold press is similar to the kettlebell press if you were to get it very similar. If you were, it's for me, it's the most functional overhead press you could do with a dumbbell and my personal opinion. And I think every maps program we've created

or almost every maps program has the Arnold press in it if I'm not mistaken. Yeah, it's got to be in the form of it, right? Cause we're trying to, and I definitely am always looking for that because I don't like these, you know, like shorter, you know, shorter ranges of motion type lifts, where we're just gonna create more dysfunction going into a different type of modalities. Especially for the shoulders.

This shoulder to ock is like one of my favorites, because and I've shared on the show before that, it was like the first real critique that a competitor gave to me back when in my early 20s by a female competitor and she said I had shit shoulders. And it really, I really, it's a bruised my ego. But it was the best thing that ever happened to me because at that moment, that's when I began to really start to build and develop my shoulders. And over time, what I realized was I put so much energy on building my arms, my biceps

and my triceps, and shoulders are a cornerstone of your upper body. And if you have really power, and not just like not just from aesthetic, like I know I speak from an aesthetic point of view most of the time because that's potentially or but most of the time what I care about or what I'd like to talk about. But I mean, even for strength, like your your shoulders are involved in every push and every pull movement that you could do. So having very strong functional shoulders isn't no brainer. But from the way that you look and your body is presented, man, you have some good shoulder caps on you and it just brings the entire body together.

It exaggerates the X factor. So it makes you look much broader at top. It makes your waist look smaller. When you have good front delts, it brings your upper chest and the upper part of your body together. When you have good rear delts, it brings your back together. I mean, when you have your good side delts, it looks really good. Like every, every part of the shoulder, I think, is, is, uh, is so important.

And I did a YouTube video, I think a year ago or so, it's, it's a, it's a higher training video of ours, not like our best stuff. I think we do a lot better stuff now today than we did back then, but I did my favorite guarantee to make your shoulders grow. I think it's what was the title of the series, and I gave a series of exercises. And I believe it was, you know, I teach a compound lift, and then I teach a movement for your front delts, and then a movement for your rear delts. And I 100% Arnold Press. Z Press is one of my favorites, man.

And the reason why I love the Z Press so much, one, it takes the shoulder through full range of motion, because you start with the barbell all the way down on your chest. And then the part that I love the most about the Z press is the, and I, when I teach it, I teach the exaggerated extension part of it, right? So I, I want you to fully extend and stabilize over your head. And I think that overhead stabilization is so key for the shoulder development.

And from a strength perspective, and again, an aesthetic perspective. So the Z-press is a staple movement and it takes your lower body out of it, so you can't cheat it, right? Like you could have a real powerful core and good leg drive and you could kind of cheat, you know, a standard overhead press, right?

Or you can be in a seated press and you could arch your back and get it up and use more of your chest where there's just, you cannot cheat a Z-press. You have got to have good strong shoulders to stabilize that up over your head. And then the other thing I love to teach is just a lot of focus on rear delts. I think it's one of the most overlooked parts of the shoulder. I think it's tough to target. I think a lot of people, when they do rear delts, they engage their rhomboids and their traps, and to isolate the rear delt, I think is tough to do.

And I think when you learn to do that, I think it really brings the shoulder all together. It's an area that I think that I really worked on hard when I was a competitor, and I think it was a major strength of mine that I had these great, impressive rear delts that really made my whole shoulder come together. And if you put energy and time into that,

I just don't know a lot of people when I walk in the gym, it's rare I see people actually doing movements that specifically target the rear delt. And I think it's an overlooked part of the body. It's crucial to keep everything tracking well and avoid pain, you know, going forward. Yeah, as said, like you said, aesthetically speaking, man, you developed those rear delt,

it just gives you a round, a very round looking shoulder. I also like to do the Arnold press one arm, one arm at a time. I love alternating them, or even just doing one dumbbell, where I'm just staying there, really tight, one dumbbell, one dumbbell pressing it up bring it down doing my set with one arm Yeah, and then switching to the other one. I think if you I mean you're gonna be hard You're hard press to find somebody who can overhead press a lot of weight that doesn't have Relatively impressive delts and upper back. That's an important thing to note here

With upper with overhead pressing. It's not just your shoulders that you have to have strong. If you do a real good overhead press, like the kind where you're standing tall, you have to have good upper back strength and muscularity. And I like the Arnold press for that, because when you press it straight up, it allows you to kind of press real tall and then bring it all the way down

so you get that full range of motion. Next question is from Miss Fit Nerdy. Hi, here's our girl. When is the best time to implement sauna use and cold therapy relative to time of day and training schedule? Post workout on rest days, first thing in the morning? This is a good question because sauna and cold both have real effects on the body,

both have study supporting their use, and there is probably a better time to use both the sauna and cold. Now, when, you know, and I'm going to use the studies as a litmus test, okay, but I'm also going to talk a little bit of anecdote. Studies show that when athletes use an infrared sauna post workout that they have improvements in adaptations in particular stamina and endurance. So sauna seems to be a great, and you see this in swimmers, I forgot what study it was a new, I think it was out of New Zealand, and they did it with swimmers and they found that when they did the sauna post exercise versus before the workout, they had better performance gains

with the workouts. As opposed to the obviously with cryo would limit the inflammation and so it would dampen a little bit of the adaptation response. Yeah, that's a very good point. So cold therapy, probably not a good idea to do it around your workouts because it will blunt the inflammatory response. What you want, you want that inflammatory response to be normal because that's what tells your body to repair and rebuild and build muscle. Now the only time I could see cold therapy right after workout actually being beneficial is if you're pushing your body so hard, you're performing like a competition or something like that. Yeah, like let's say you're in football and you're doing double days.

I know when my friends would do double days, it's insane, it's intense, and many times in my opinion, it's too much. That's when I think cold therapy might be beneficial because, you know, without it, you're just over training. So maybe it's going to bring it back enough to put you in that kind of... I love to do, like, if you guys have not done this yet, is because we have the relationship with brink

and the cryo, we can go in there whenever and use it. If you can go over and do cryo, come over here and crush some weights and then go do our sauna afterwards, it is the most awesome fucking combination, in my opinion. You get this crazy adrenaline rush from the cryo, brings down any sort of inflammation that you might have had before. So you feel like your joint mobility right away goes up, you get this a rush because your

body temperature drops so low, so you get this surge of energy right after you do the cryo. So it's great to hit the cryo, then come over and do a lift, you get a great lift from that, and then post, you go hang out in our infrared. Yeah, I remember Ben Greenfell's up at his house. You know, and he believes in, he's all about like doing this cold, the heat contrast, you know, so I'll do like the cold dip. And then, and then we'll do the sauna. But yeah, that man, you get this like real, like you fork feeling

after like just the contrast of both of those extremes was quite significant. Yeah, cold dip, if you were to go into cold water, really, really cold water, some studies show a two to 300% increase in North Beneferent just from 20 seconds of exposure. Now, I know for me, and so one of the best times to maybe do something like that is first thing in the morning. That's when you want those, and I know for me, and so one of the best times that maybe do something

like that is first thing in the morning. That's when you want those. And I know for me, I do cold showers every morning, and when I do them, it's like a mild cup of coffee. Like it's cold ass water. Yep, and it wakes me right the fuck up, and I'm ready to rock and roll. So that, and the way cold really benefits the body kind of stimulates this Hormetic responses and the benefits seem to be more Basically mostly central nervous system and not so much muscle. So it's really toning and sort of like your immune system Well the immune system because because that to me is like I mean, and this is where you know We're where we can be splitting hairs with talking about the best timing to do some of this stuff. Like, I think that if you can get in a cold and hot, like contrast, like dip, like, uh, sauna dip thing where you go back and forth, if you can get that in any time of the day,

I think there's huge benefits that in fact, I didn't bring this up on the show, but I just recently got sick during this competition. And if I'm being completely honest, it's the longest I've been without doing that. I was really, I've been really consistent and I talk all about what a difference it is when I'm incorporating the cold showers with the hot or doing like going up to refuge where we go do the hot, the cold plunge and go right into the sauna.

Man, I tell you what, I just feel resilient. I can be around people that are sick and I don't seem to pick it up and then if I'm neglecting that and I'm not training that, I swear I have just this weak ass immune system. So I think there's lots of benefits to just doing that period, regardless of trying to get the most bang for your buck out of timing it around your workout. We talk a lot about timing with nutrition and food. I think there's enough studies to show the benefits of doing the hot cold contrast

that just doing it is better than trying to. Well, it's a, you know, if you look at your body and your body's ability to adapt to certain things, they get better as you exercise them and train them, right? So if you, you know, your sins, your, excuse me, your skin's ability to adapt to the sun, you, if you exercising, go out a little bit, you can withstand more sunlight and your skin gets darker to adapt to the sun. If you exercise it and go out a little bit, you can withstand more sunlight

and your skin gets darker in the depths. Your hands, if you handle rough objects, your skin adapts, you may get thicker calluses. If you train your body with weights, your body adapts and builds stronger muscle. But our body's ability to acclimate to temperature changes. We almost never train or exercise. Think about it.

Your house is climate controlled, your car is climate controlled, and your office is climate controlled. Everything's climate controlled, and your body does have systems that help regulate temperature. And if you train them, like here's an example. Let's say you're somebody who has a really poor heat tolerance. Like if it's too hot, you just feel like,

anxious is too much, I can't handle it, I can't be in the heat. Do some therapy in the sauna for a while, and you'll find that your heat tolerance will get better. You can acclimate. Same thing with cold. If you just can't handle the cold, do some cold therapy, and watch how your body starts acclimating. Now that's a system of the body that actually becomes stronger.

And as a result of the body that actually becomes stronger. And as a result of that system becoming stronger, other systems work better because the body's all integrated. And part of that I think has to do with the immune system. And you're right Adam, there are studies that show that, I forgot what, there was one study in particular where they had people take a, do a 20 to 30 minute cold rinse in the shower every day.

And there was like a significant reduction in the amount of upper respiratory infections. I noticed a big difference, dude. It's pretty crazy. Here's the other thing, too, that cold does, which is kind of interesting. So there's two types of fat that we have identified in the body.

There's white fat that just kind of sits there to store calories. And then there's brown fat. And brown fats job, part of its job is to increase your body's temperature. It's actually, it works with the immune system, but it can actually turn up the heat to help warm your body. So it's the kind of fat that you can burn more easily than the white fat. Well, when you put yourself in cold environments or cold dips or whatever, you activate that brown fat.

And there was one study that showed that a cold dip, and I forgot how long it was, 20 seconds or something like that, increased brown fat activation by 15 fold. So 15 times more brown fat activation. So that means you're actually converting white fat to brown fat. How's that process? No, it means the brown fat that you have means you're tapping into the energy from to brown fat, how is that process? No, it means the brown fat that you have, means you're tapping into the energy from the brown fat.

It's burning, it's burning itself to heat you up. To stay warm, it's a, it's, it's, now, so in essence, you're speeding up in metabolism. In essence, now, are the effects big enough to see dramatic changes, not like changing your diet and exercising well. However, if you're really lean and you're looking for that extra edge, I would say it could make a difference.

And the other thing too is you have the health effects, the health benefits, the immune system benefits, and now you can see that it kind of stimulates your metabolism a little bit. When you add all of that up, I tell every client now to implement some kind of cold enough. I look at it like meditation and mobility work for me. I can't ever do enough of this. If I have the time to go up and take a weekend and go do the refuge thing,

if I am disciplined enough to incorporate the cold showers, it's one of those things I think that in our society today you probably can't do it enough. You know, there's probably, you should be incorporating this. And I think the overall benefits from it, it far outweigh any sort of cost that it goes into. Bro, in Eastern Europe, this is part of their culture. There's videos you call our bearer guys, right?

Bro, jump in. You could watch videos on YouTube right now of children in like third grade or second grade and it's snowing outside so the kids are inside for class and their break, what do they do? They go outside and bathing suits and they jump and run in the snow and they get sprayed with water and it's part of their day. This is what they do. It's a huge part of certain cultures to be exposed to

You know to extreme heat and extreme cold and they do it since they were children again. Isn't this so funny though that you Our brought up as a kid like you always had to have a coat, you know, otherwise you're for sure getting you know like oh my god You're gonna get sick, you know when the opposite you, if you just went out there and had more exposure to it and the pack wouldn't get sick. You're probably gonna get sick. Right, so true. All right, next question is from Brenda,

for ES 51, do you think the younger generation is becoming less and less connected to religion? I don't think, I don't think I know. Yeah, statistically speaking, it's in the Igen book. They break this down. It's it's actually Significantly less. Yeah. Now here's the question. Is that a good or a bad thing? That's the debate Do we think that's a good or a bad thing? Well, that's really that's a really good. That's a very pretty long conversation Yeah, well here's what I here's here's my opinion on it because I have an opinion on everything so but on this in particular

You know, I when you look at human psychology and you read about it, what you find in some of the most, I guess, some of the most popular psychologists full-time are the ones that, like Carl Jung, for example, they talk about how humans worship things, or at least we place things at the top of our list of things that we value. So if you look at your everyday life, you are constantly choosing things that you value more than things that you value less of. Everything you do from, you know, why you turn right instead of left to the shirt that you picked, to the lunch that you wait to, the people you talk to versus the ones that

you don't, everything is a judgment. And you're constantly judging something that you like better than something that you don't. Well, at the top of that is your ultimate value. And if it's not religion, if it's not something, it's something, there's hierarchy. That exists in nature that exists, like wherever you're looking within your life. And so you have to kind of determine that,

whether you like it or not, you're putting something in priority of everything else, but what is that? Yeah, and so kids who are now less religious, it doesn't necessarily mean they're less religious. You know what I'm saying? Maybe not in the traditional sense, but they're still worshipping, they're just not worshing the traditional major religions. In fact, when you look at all the kids that say they're not religious, when they go back and ask them, but do you consider yourself spiritual? The majority of them say yes.

So it's not like they stop believing in God or whatever you wanna call it, it's that they stopped following the organized religions. Now here's my fear with all of this. And I'm not pro one or the other necessarily. My fear is that we have these religions that have stood the test of time. And the way they've stood the test of time is they work.

Okay, they work. Like the Judeo-Christian religions, for example, whatever faults you find in all the bad things that they've done in the name of organized religion, they work in the sense that they've created societies that seem to move towards more equality, that seem to move more towards liberty, that have brought more prosperity, that whatever. There's certain values within them. If you throw that out and eliminate that, they're going to replace it with something else

that may not have a time tested, you know, basically that doesn't have as much effectiveness over time, like we don't know what they're gonna replace it with. Like our kids gonna replace it with materialism, consumerism, are they gonna replace it with, you know, nihilism and just feeling, it may be more appealing too, because it's feeding into the indulgences and you know desires and lots of things that Enately sound good right now at this at this moment in time, but

You know is that a long-term strategy That's gonna benefit your life and people around you as much so it's yet to be determined But yeah, there's a lot of new ideas, I think, floating around, and people are subscribing. I think people are really just trying to understand, you know, how they can determine this for themselves, and they're just tired of having organizations tell them how they have to live their life.

But, you know, then you got to kind of revisit, you know, what's been working, what hasn't been working. Yeah, I've heard that. I heard people say that, like that they're tired of the organizations and the institutions telling them what to think. But in the same sentence, I'll see the same people, because I've talked to lots of people about this. These same people will post pictures of themselves,

burning incense, and having crystals for the particular healing powers. And they'll be there. So they fall into somebody else's, yes, structure. I think some religions just don't seem cool, and others seem cooler. Like, like, like, people who say they're not religious, but they're spiritual, okay, well, what are you spiritual about?

Oh, I take psychedelics, and that's the way I talk to the other side, or, oh, this new, this, this, this other religion that I just, that I talked, that I learned about, South American religion, or this, or Tao, you know, Taoism, or, you know, Confuciism, or whatever, it's just, I just that I talked and I learned about South American religion or this or tile, you know, Taoism or, you know, Confuciism or whatever, it's just I think that some of the older ones just don't seem as cool, like a kid today saying, you know, well, I'm Christian, you know, he might get some flack, but another kid who's like, oh, I believe in, you know, I worship, you know, the crystals or whatever. Oh, that's cool that's cool. I'm open mind novel. Yeah, what do you, what do you worshiping?

So yeah, man, I don't know. This is a, this is a tough one. I mean, I know we love to touch these third rails with the religion talk and the political talk. And it's, it's hard not to talk about both at the same time here because this is also why I don't, I don't even subscribe to being like a libertarian. I know that a lot of people think that we are on the show.

I know, so you come from that camp and kind of talk from that perspective, but this is where I have kind of a conservative background where I don't know if I how much faith I have in humanity with certain things like this. Like I fear for, especially after this talk, we just had about Mr. Rogers and watching that and seeing like how we've evolved because of television and how we have, you've seen consumerism now

and how out of control that's gotten and now we have social media and you have, I mean, who would ever have thought that we would have went from, you know, my uncle was talking about this other day, a television where it was so crazy when you saw a girl's belly button. You know, that was a big deal when the first, you know, I dream of Jeannie. Yeah. That's what it was. Right. Everybody lost their minds. Lost their mind, right? It was just unbelievable that we did that. And you can't get on to Instagram without seeing at least third hole. Yeah. Like full on, full. Full on nudity on there.

And it's become very normal. In fact, we actually are starting to celebrate that. You see a lot of women putting that out there as like an empowering thing. Like, you know, be proud of your body and sexuality and put it out there. And, you know, I don't know if that's the right direction for us as a society.

And I don't know if, you know, the 13 year old girl who gets on there and looks at that has the right discernment to know if that's a good idea or not. And so, you know, I fear for our generation. Do I think there's some positive to it? Yeah, I think there is. I think there is, I think we are a much more our generation. Do I think there's some positive to it? Yeah, I think there is. I think we are a much more educated generation.

I think we have access to information. I think now, instead of just growing up and going to church with your parents and being told that this is the way and the only way that you have the ability to get online and start googling and doing research and learning for yourself and challenging some of the ideologies that you're hearing in your own maybe household or in your community. So I think there's some positiveness to that. Like I think that's good and maybe that, you know, just becoming a doctorate into a religion and not being open-minded to read others.

I mean, I know that being somebody who had to teach and do this stuff and I was like, I read other religions, and I've always challenged the way that my current beliefs are. So if I believe one way, I like to read the opposing side. So I think there are some positive things that could come from this on that aspect, but then I fear the general population. Well, just what they were placing it with.

Yeah, exactly. And I don't know if that's going to be a good thing or a bad thing in ten years. I think it'll come around. I think that it's important for people to really own what they believe in their own, what they find within their own experience. And that takes a lot of education

and that takes a lot of a journey. You know that they have to go through like, you know, personally. And I definitely know that there's religions that, you know, provide the structure and people can really benefit from that immediately and like have somebody sort of lay it out for them. But there's some people that really need to go through the trials, the tribulations, like, you know, read, you know,, read other thoughts and go through this whole process to find themselves fine where they belong and find what makes sense. And I have faith that people will come to conclude certain things work

and certain things don't work. Well, total health has always included a spiritual element. I know they've tried to separate it for a long time, and it's just fitness and diet, and you know, that's it. But you can't, you can't separate it. Spirituality is a part of, of total health, and it's always been a part of it. This is why like if you go in the health space, now that you might not have the traditional religions, but I guarantee you a large percentage of the people in the health and wellness space will consider themselves strongly spiritual in some way.

It's just part of overall health. Why? Because it gives you purpose and it gives life meaning. Which you need because life is difficult for everybody. There's always going to be a hard shit that you're going to have to deal with. And believing in a greater purpose, whatever that is for you can help with that. Now as far as what we should do about it, look, I have my beliefs and I think I know what's best

for people, but I would never wanna control the people because the reality is, do I really know what's best for people? Probably not. So, you know, here's a deal, like I like people to be free because if we're gonna progress, then the only, first of all, the only way we can progress is if people do it on their own voluntarily.

So we can try forcing people all we want. We can try censoring TV. We can try censoring the internet. We can try structuring things in a particular way. But that's not progress. That's people being controlled. Progress comes from people making the choices on their own, which means sometimes we're gonna have to...

The fine line there though is like when talking about like conservatism and thinking that direction is like, I agree with that, especially as an adult, like I think as an adult we should have the options and the ability to do whatever, watch whatever, consume whatever, like I 100% believe that we have that free choice. But I have a hard time with that for a seven or eight year old.

Developmental minds. Yes, a mind that is being formed. I totally agree with that. And doesn't know better. Doesn't know that the naked girl on Instagram is not normal. And that in fact, I might should be emulating that. And if I'm consuming that as a child, because I have the freedom to do that, because we promote freedom so much

that, oh, let's not put constraints on anybody or tell anybody they can or can't do anything, then you get these kids that are being, I mean, this is back to the Mr. Rogers thing, like that was his fear was, you know, nothing's wrong with these, nothing's wrong with cartoons, but you know, if all your cartoons are bad guys

killing other guys and shooting each other with this, laser guns and it's all the information that they're processing and they begin to think that this is normal. Well, there's a big difference between, there's definitely freedom, but when it comes to children, there is a person who is the one that helps.

Just like with, look, you have a seven-year-old, you don't just tell them, eat whatever the fuck you want. You have to direct them and help them and help them make those decisions, and you have to sometimes put limits and structures. That's the job of their parents. That's the bottom line. And so what I mean by that is, okay, here's a deal.

We have a market with all this information that's coming out. We have TV commercials for kids, we have shitty TV shows and sugary serials and a lot of stuff. Okay, that exists and that should be able to exist. However, if we don't want it, it's the parents jobs, the cut it off, cut funding. And, and you know, people are starting to do this. This is what I like about the the new media age. I'm starting to see people protest in ways that are really fucking effective. Like something will happen, people won't be happy about. Next thing you know, there's a petition,

it goes online, people share it on Facebook, and things happen, so I agree with you Adam. I don't think advertisers should advertise the children, but do I think there should be a law? No, I just think I'll turn that shit off, your advertising's not gonna work, and if other parents did it, but that's the only way we could progress

is as people do things because they want to, not because they're being forced. Otherwise, it almost doesn't count. And again, when it comes to religion, look, here's a deal. They're following their parents. Adult belief in religions is dropping. So is children's belief in religions. What's replacing it is what I fear.

I want to replace it to be something that values humanity, that values people, that finds each person as an individual special and deserving of respect, love and care, that values hard work, conscientiousness, empathy. Which I feel like, don't you feel like that was like Mr. Rogers. Yes, right? Like and I love that you could have watched him as a kid growing up and have no idea that he had a religious background

Yeah, like that to me is what he was so smart that's that to me is what real religion should stand for exactly that It is not it is not an excuse to oppress those or it's not an excuse to become self-righteous to oppress those or it's not an excuse to become self-righteous. It's a tool that you should use to better a shining example. A better humanity. And we just need more shining examples of a solid moral structure that's benefiting society, benefiting their fellow man in their process of discovering themselves and going through life,

like helping other people out. You're right, humans, you know, we, part of our curse and blessing is that we have this very complex consciousness and we tend to need a game plan, we need an operating system. This is why humans can very sort of dramatically sometimes from culture to culture.

Why is it that one culture finds it totally appropriate to, you know, to eat other people and be cannibal? Or even now, even today, there's certain cultures that eat dogs, for example. And other cultures find that apriot completely terrible, like how could you possibly do that? Well, if they have a different operating system, they don't think it's wrong.

And does that mean that moralism is relative? No, not at all. I think there's certain things that are objective. Like, don't kill someone. Unless you're protecting yourself, don't kill someone. That's a good fucking operating system to run by. I think we should believe in that. I think we should believe in helping each other,

help ourselves, so help someone so that they can help themselves. That's a good one. I think hard work is another good value, but anyway, I'm naming the ones that I think that are good But people need to have that basic operating system. It gives them purpose and the only thing that worries me today about the Swarms of people that are abandoning religion is We don't know what they're what right. Yeah, what are you banning it for and what it looks like to me if I'm being objective What it looks like to me it doesn't look being objective, what it looks like to me, it doesn't look like

they're banning a religion for any other, you know, organized religion. What it looks to me like, they're banning it for sex, pleasure, indulgence, indulgence, and, and, and consumers of self-serving. Yeah, and which, you know, like, let's get back to thinking about other people again. And that's why I think you're,

and if we continue that in that path, you're gonna see more rates of depression, more rates of anxiety, more rates of people feeling unfulfilled, even though we have more shit than we've ever had in our entire lives, I think. That's the interesting part, right? Fasten it. When you think about, when you really think about that,

that today, the average person has more things than they ever had in history before, but yet depression is at its highest rate. It's crazy. It's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah, like, you have to worry about eating too much food now. You don't have to worry about not having food.

That's a totally different, you know, worry. Like, completely different. Like, oh, I better not use it. Well, I think of it as a even bigger worry because we don't have the history to look back on. We don't have 400 years of, oh,, remember this culture that for 100 years they were just fucking eating processed foods and they were over consuming. We don't have, we're creating those studies right now, we're creating all those statistics.

One thing that religion does that I think is fascinating, I think it's taught wrong sometimes in religion is the value of abstinence. I don't mean abstinence from sex. I mean abstinence and how you apply it to certain things in your life. In religion, unfortunately, I think- Yes, I'm plain. I think sometimes teaches it wrong.

So you're going to hell if you do this or whatever. Okay, I don't like the way they teach that because now you're just trying to scare people. Really, it's like, for example, I'm very much into health and fitness. So that means a lot of times, most of the time, I don't eat certain foods. I abstain from them, but there's a real value in it.

Besides the physical, I enjoy it much, besides the fact that I don't get fat and I don't get out of shape and all that stuff. Besides all that stuff, there's a lot of value in the fact that I enjoy it more when I do have it. And I find more value in it because I abstain from it. Our current society and culture put places zero value in abstinence. It's a hundred percent value in overindulgence.

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