Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 858: The Importance of Scheduled Rest Days, How to Fire Your Trainer, Weight Training for Kids & MORE

Episode Date: September 14, 2018

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and Justin Andrews. In this super strong episode of Mind Pump, for the first 40 minutes, we have our introductory conversation. Adam talks about his spiffy new Viori clothes. Oh, he is. So sharp. Dressing up for Taylor. Handsome as fuck.

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If you go to four sigmatic FOUR, S-I-G-M-A-T-I-C dot com four slash mine pump and use the code mine pump, you will get a discount. That's right, Maine. Then we talk about the weird messed up school shooting statistics. I don't think we know what's going on there. We talk about cannabis beer in Canada. They're actually making beer with cannabis in it. Oh, that's crazy. Sounds relaxing.

Justin talks about the time he overdosed on cannabis. I did. Well, watching that did happen. The incredible. Oh, what a horrible experience. We talk about sleep eating and sleep sex and sleep paralysis. Oh boy. Oh, it's the best time you'll never remember. You didn't tell me the name of that drug.

I want to get some rest. Then we get to the question. The first question was, how important is it to schedule rest days and what do we mean when we talk about a rest day? How important are they for your progress and what should you do on the days? You'll sleep when you're dead, bro.

That you don't work out. Next question was, what are our thoughts on kids and weight training? When should they start? And what qualities should you look for in a personal trainer, if you're trying to hire a trainer, to train your kids with weights? The next question was, how do you know

when it's time to leave your personal trainer? And how do you break the news to them? Wow. We give some break up advice. By the dinner first of the year. Of this episode. And finally, the last question. What are our thoughts in regards to therapy with the professional?

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That rate goes up and won't come back down. Go check it out. Now supplies won't last. Come on out. So how come you dress up for Taylor, but you don't dress up for me, or you guys, or for Justin, or for Doug. Because Taylor has an eye for that stuff. So, in plus it makes him happy.

Like he, oh, okay, what do you do for, what did you do for Taylor? Well, first of all, what did you do for Taylor? First of all, and here's the thing in him, actually was complimenting him yesterday. Actually complimented himself first yesterday. Then I said, yes, yes, you are. But I said yes, yes you are. But I, somebody I've been going through

and I'm trying my best to stay on top of all the YouTube questions. Every once in a while, a new person who drops them on the channel finds like a really old video. In fact, it was one of the first times we ever shot and you know, there's an evening equipment in here. And they made a comment like, oh, this is, you know, great channel,

amazing, real positive comments. So, I watched the video. I haven't watched an old YouTube of us already and it had a long time. And it made me cringe the same way I do when I listened to an old podcast episode. Where we bad? Yeah, it makes me cringe, but then also,

it makes me happy because you know, it's just kudos to all of us and how we continue to evolve and we're growth minded is that. I didn't realize we were that bad until, until now and then I didn't realize that we've evolved that much until I had seen something that far back and it's yeah, it's really bad. But it was good enough content that people were

subscribing and- We're good when we suck even. But even to the point of like, just the uniformity of it, right? So, I mean, I've tried to get better for Taylor on that. Like, you know, he constantly gives me a hard time that, you know, this is a visual platform and whether you like it or not,

these people are dropping in the first time. They don't know who the fuck mine pump atom is. They don't know your, your judgment. A great guy or this or that. So, you know, putting the outfit together and so. You were wearing all your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your that he first found and of course the company's blowing up. And so I know he's super proud. I gotta agree with him on that brand though. It does. I wear it like every day.

No, no, it's, I mean, that's their solid stuff, dude. And I'm jealous. You and him have all the t-shirts. That, I mean, I made the mistake of getting like all the shorts, all the pants. I have some, you only like two, you know, or so the shorts are pants to like switch out.

Right. And then you just, but I didn't get a lot of t-shirts. That's a move. You know, you did do the right move. I did a couple shirts. I like the t- Right. And then you just, but I didn't get a lot of t-shirts. That's the move. You know, you did do the right move. I did a couple shirts. I like the t-shirts. The material is really,

this is so comfy, dude. Yeah, it's like you're, it's like you're, yeah, exactly. It's like you're wearing a baby's kiss. You know what I mean? Yeah, just a sweet on your body. It's like lightly dusting my nipples.

So now I roll in into the YouTube shoots. Oh yeah. You know, my Viori doubts and put together so he gets excited. I know it gets all happy when I. That's a show, man. I'll be honest. You look a little props on that. You look sharp.

Yeah, I look very sharp. Dude, so I found a new benefit of Lion's Main, the mushroom. It speeds up nervous system healing. So they did studies in rats and they find that it accelerates the repair of the nervous system. How the fuck did they measure that? How do they measure it? Yes.

I don't know, that's a good question Adam. Let me look it up here for a second. That's weird. Speed recovery from injuries by stimulating the growth and repair of nerve cells. So what they do is they damage the mice so that they maybe lose some function in one of their legs. By the way, they damage them. Kind of fucked up.

Kind of fucked up. He's fucked up. He's fucked up. He's fucked up. He's fucked up. He's fucked up. He's fucked up. He's fucked up. Yeah, quote, air quotes.

Damage them. But anyway, and they'll test different subjects to see if. It's fucking, it is. It's fucking, it is. It's giving some, let's test different subjects to see if It is Let's give you some mushrooms to see if you feel better. Oh, they're just they're just living work Limping over to get some food. Well, dude listen to this right. What's up? No 23 to 41% he's just hide fuss. He's not really helping That's human sorry

Sorry finish your commercial I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, you can see lots of applications for people. But let's think about athletes for a second. When you hammer yourself in the gym, and I've been noticing this, because I take the four-signatic has the Macha, green Macha T, lion's main mix. They also have your favorite, I know you use, I see you use that one a lot here. That one's my favorite, because the green tea's got a little bit of caffeine

with the lion's main, it's a great combination. But I've been taking that pre-workout, and I've noticed when I work out really hard, I seem to recover a little better, a little faster. Maybe that's what's going on. So there's a dumb question, but does the lion's mane mushroom actually look like a lion's mane? It looks like, it's kind of, maybe it does.

I think it does, kind of, I'm trying to remember what it looks like. I think it's kind of small bunch of small mushrooms. So it kind of looks like a mane, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like Simba. Yeah. That's back in the day when they would name things after what they look like. I know.

There it is. Oh yeah, it does look like a lot of things. Oh, sweet. That's right. There it is. So on that note, you know what they call horny goat weed? Horny goat weed? There was a noticed, a fact after our goats were eating the food.

Bro, the story goes that that herders goat herders noticed that when the goats would eat this particular herb, they would start having sex with each other and getting all crazy. And so they named it horny goat. Yeah, there's a compound in Hornigotweed. I think it's pronounced epimedium. I'm not sure. Look up the amine ingredient in Hornigotweed dug, but it's actually a potent vasodilator,

and it works in the same similar way to Viagra. I see, and it's all natural and herb. Yeah, it's got like one-fourth of the effectiveness of Viagra from what I've read. So if you concentrate the shove, you it you'll get close. Yeah, maybe I don't know man. That shit works. You're gonna take it. I have it. Yeah, yeah, no, it works Yeah, yeah, no, I can attest to it for sure. Yeah, it gives you the the boner power Yeah, it's the boner power long and strong

Boner power. I mean there was a while there when my my libido is in the basement So we were trying anything and everything When it's when it's doing all his fucking smoke and herbal shit everything It's whatever you want to do tell me what to do dude. Get a shaman. Yeah, it's just resurrected Finally was finally was the pictures of Justin I think that was me playing the flu I was the only time I was consistently using the forcing bad because I was desperate to Tell me sell what I could take. He's like take this take this so something like that is different The only time I was consistently using the forcing mat because I was desperate to tell me, so what I could say, he's like, take this, take this.

So something like that is different. It's not like you wanna do it, but you can't like a rectal dysfunction. You just make it picture at it. You don't want to when you're libido's low, yeah? Yeah, yeah. You just don't want to. Yeah, it shouldn't be.

It wouldn't be a big deal if I was a single guy, but you know, I got a partner at home. And man, I tell you what, my girl is nine day difference when she's getting some. She's getting some, she's happier. She's happy camp or dude, house is clean, meals are always cooked, skipping around the house. She's happy. It sounds like a good trait to me.

No, it is. It is, and yeah, no. Because she basically, people know she basically organizes your entire life. All you guys just have sex with her. Sounds like an even better. You're in like such opposite of like over here. I'm like my, everything can go so smooth and everything when I'm getting so.

I carry in, I carry in is the ingredient in there. It's a PDE5 inhibitor, just like Viagra helps loosen up the muscles in there and then they, or the tissues and then. Very nice, and then bingo bingo. Yeah, bingo bingo. Did you guys hear about the NPR research that they did on school shootings?

Oh, no. Did something else come out in the news just the other day? Oh, that kid that shot up, that- Yeah, it fucked up. What happened? He lost a video game and went back into the video game tournament and shot kids. Whoa.

Yeah, that's what I read, literally a paragraph about it. So that's all I know. But it was another, into the video game tournament and shot kids. Whoa. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I read literally a paragraph about it. So that's all I know. But it was another kid on psychiatric medications. He's on all these other. He was. Yeah. Okay, so I didn't know any details.

I just came up, it surfaced on one of my social media platforms that popped up and I didn't have a chance to dive into it. I won't open one of you guys did. So check this out. The Department of Education says that there were 235 school shootings in the 2015 to 16 school year. NPR went and double checked the figure.

You ready for this? It found 11 can be independently confirmed. A hundred and basically two thirds of the alleged total did not happen at all. What? Yeah, and then four of them were miscategorized completely. How crazy is that? Oh, explain that. So, well, that's it.

Well, you mean, so we've been, people have been rattling off stats that there was X amount of school shootings. And they're not real. The federal government basically has no idea how many school shootings occur each year. Because I'm assuming what they do is, did some of these get categorized because there was a gun fire and it was at a house that was one block from school or some shit. One of them was a cap gun was fired on a school bus and another one was a student posted a picture online of himself holding a gun at home.

Those were both categorized as school shootings. Yeah, so that's kind of fucked up. It's misleading. Yeah, that's a little bit messed up. I wonder who benefits from putting out shitty information like that. You know who makes a lot of money every time they try to push gun control.

The inner-ray. Yeah, companies that sell guns. Those are gonna say, yeah. Your prices go up. money every time they try to push gun control. The NRI. Yeah. Companies that sell guns. Those are going to say. Your prices go up. Yeah, yeah. Bro, like... Pull it prices go up, gun prices go up.

Oh, anytime, like, I'm... Because everybody's like, oh shit, we may not really get them. Yeah, yeah. Anytime a politician... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pushes gun control, gun sales go to the roof. So I wonder if these... If he's...

Yeah, I wonder if these companies, these... Like the NRI and stuff... I wonder if they're like, kind of working in unison, like hey, put out some shit. I mean, people, I wouldn't be surprised. Lots of speculation going on right now, but. I mean, that's an old marketing advertising employee, right? I mean, Pepsi and Coke did it back in the,

in the late 80s, right? Companies like the test of time, almost they figured that one out. I wonder how much we're manipulating. I know, dude. So maybe my pump needs a nemes emphasis that we need to work with. We do. It's pumps.

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We're gonna fight with Todd. Talk about that. Yeah. Ruffal, the boner. Get people fight. I didn't know the kid, right? They got sponsored by Burger King, right? They did, really?

And monster, yeah, brain show. Monster's cool, I mean, whatever. Monster is cool. Cause you know, you guys see this, right? I mean, you guys know that monster, Red Bull, they're all, they're, they're, they all got their own lines now of the organic, all natural side too.

So they're, you know, as bad of a bad rap as they have for all the fucking crazy rocket-fueled Weird, right, you know when you look at the back of it. You got a million versions of like no sugar no calories Right, but I mean every one of these guys are responding to the to the market and they are moving and pivoting You know they're then getting you know making sure they're covering all their bases. So you see that you see that happening right now Interesting, you know, you know in Canada right now. Interesting. You know, in Canada right now, because they legalized cannabis country wide in Canada, do you guys know this?

No. You guys didn't know this? Oh yeah, yeah, I did know. Yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, I know that. I know that. Listen, I remember the CEO from Dosis was talking about that, like how excited he was.

It's gonna pass, and then it passed like, the next week. Dude, pay attention to the cannabis market in Canada because now that it's legalized, you're gonna see all kinds of new products and you should happen. And they brewed the first cannabis beer in Canada. So now you're starting to see the combination

of alcohol with marijuana. Which, different than the other one you brought up? No, this is a beer. No, this is actual beer. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I've heard of this. I don't know if that's a good combination. I don't need to be a combination all. It's like it's like when we got introduced to a Red Bull Vodka's right. That was a terrible. That's a great combination. Terrible. I'll tell you. Listen, keep drunk assholes up like all night long.

I mean, it's still probably one of the number one drinks at a nightclub. I mean, that's probably that you could debate. You know, I mean, I'm just saying like, if you're like a drunk in asshole, we don't want you to sleep. Caffeine and alcohol work great together because when you drink them,

they hit you right on the same time. If I drink a beer with weed in it, the alcohol's gonna hit me way before the fucking weed. So I'm gonna drink it and I'm gonna keep drinking and be like, is that necessarily true? When you eat weed, when you consume it, it gets processed slower. Aren't they too considered to be?

But pressed once. But paired with alcohol on your system, I don't know, that'd be interesting. Because cannabis is, it's gotta get processed through the liver differently. It hits you slower. Think about it, if I give you, okay, how about this? Does it, alcohol has to be processed through the liver differently. It hits you slower. Think about it. If I gave you, okay, how about this? Alcohol has to be processed through the liver also.

But it's faster. If I give you, if I give you, what I'm saying is because the cannabis is paired with the alcohol, would it transport it faster? They're still separate. It's not like it's fused. It's not like they took the alcohol molecule and made a cannabis.

I don't know. That'd be interesting. Because when you have an edible, whether you drink the cannabis or you eat the cannabis, it takes, on an empty stomach, how long does it take you guys to feel it? If you were at an empty stomach, to feel the effects of the cannabis.

Let's just say, an empty stomach? Yeah, a 45 minute. A 45 minute. Empty stomach, how soon do you feel alcohol? 10 minutes. Yeah, 10 minutes. Yeah, it happens much, much faster. So I don't think it's a good weight.

It's a good idea to combine two substances that have such a different rate of effects. Yeah, you'll get like a, you get hit double. Like it'll come a little bit later too. You're gonna get a second wave. I'm trying to think how many times too that I've been in a party where I got drunk and then I decided to smoke weed.

Oh, smoking weed and alcohol go together nice. Well, I don't know about that. That's the same difference. No, like really drunk and high together. It's a bad, yes it is. That's a bad experience. No, smoking hits you right away. Yeah, but I know, okay, if you know,

if you know how many milligrams is your dose, right? So if I know that, you know, 15 milligrams of marijuana is just the right amount for me to feel, feel, yeah, stone, you know, feel stoned, but not like, because five milligrams, I'm chill, I can barely feel it, but 10, 15, I'm probably really stoned. So, if I had beers that were 2.5 milligrams of marijuana, and then I know I could have five or six beers,

I'd probably get pretty tipsy, and then after my buzz is wearing off, I would be high. You know, so that's what it is. Well, that's the problem, the problem is the timing, that's all I'm saying. It's not the combination of two, because cannabis and alcohol people have been combining that for a long time. It's the timing of it and because alcohol hits you faster. And, you know, the thing with edible cannabis, it's people have a really tough time gauging

how much is too much because it takes so long. People have a tough time gauging when too much alcohol is enough. I know it had full grown adults in their mid 30s that still don't know that they've drank too much and they drink it way too fast. Yeah, they just don't know. Cannabis is way worse than that.

I mean, you gotta know your dose, take it, and then trust it. Like, okay, I know. Yeah, I know don't know. Cannabis is way worse than that. I mean, you gotta like, you gotta know your dose, take it and then trust it. Like, okay, no. Yeah, I know, you're right. Yeah, one of my good... And I think cannabis actually, well, maybe alcohol does too, because I don't have as much experience

with drinking alcohol and really paying attention to this, but there's a significant difference in the amount of milligrams that I can handle on an empty stomach versus with food too. So, what level your satiated makes a big difference for me. It's way faster. No, if I had a heavy meal, I can handle a lot more cannabis than if I am on an empty stomach and I could be.

I had a buddy that we all know pretty well, won't say this person's name, but... How are you doing? You're talking about it. Did you ask him if we could share? No, of course not. Why not just ask him? Because it's still a stigma surrounding cannabis.

No, there's not. Well, I mean, this person, I know this story. For this person, yeah, yeah, for this person, you can't. But anyway, I can have our podcast buddy. It's somebody we know that, just that narrow it down anymore. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm just kidding Adam. Here we go. I would say his name. So I get a, I get a, oh yes. I get a text message. I get a text message.

Text message. And this is somebody who's kind of a, a girl reveal a something. Kind of a goody two shoes. You know what I mean? Like a little bit of a square, right? He's a nerd. Cool person, cool person.

Enough Adam. Yeah. So I get this text and it's a picture of a, of like a half-eaten brownie. And in the message, he sends it a laughing like a modicon. And he's like, you know, giggle, giggle. And he's like, I'm feeling really funny right now. And I'm like, oh shit, like,

because I've been talking to this person and trying to coach them about using cannabis in the past. It's such a nice PC way to say, you've been trying to push drugs on him, bro. So, no, I've been trying to get him high. Spend your mind. No, they were asking me questions about how much they should use and do.

And of course, between the three of us, they're trusting me the most because A, Adam was gonna make you do too much. Right. M.B. Justin's a really care. So, he's asking me and he trusts me. But he didn't take my advice.

So, he said to me a picture of this and I'm like, oh shit, I'm like, I know what that is. So I send a message back and I'm like, how do you right now he's like I think it's too much he goes I'm really I'm feeling really really high like it's a little too much like 30 minutes in so I so I texted him back and I'm like oh it's gonna get worse and I'm like how many milligrams of of of of canop or THC was in that brownie in his next one I don't know and I'm like you're fucked oh yeah because I'm looking at it and eight half. And I know the way they make brownies nowadays.

No, you're a brownies 10 doses. Well, I just want to do the corner if that, you know, start and you know the timing too. And I know the time if you're feeling it, if you're giggly already and it's 30, 45 minutes in, it's like buckle up. So I send him, I send him, it's going to come in a way. I send him another text.

I'm like, when did you eat that? First of all, I said, what's the dose? He goes, I have no idea. So I sent back a reply like, LOL said, you probably ate four or five doses. I said, but don't worry, it's not toxic. And I said, when did you eat it? And he goes, oh, he goes, feels like two hours ago.

And then the next text, oh, never mind. My girlfriend says, I ate it 40 minutes ago. And I'm like, okay, I got some bad news for you. I didn't even receive it, did he get all scared and paranoid or what? I say I knew if this was at somebody else that I could fuck with, I would have had a good time. I would have pushed it out of my room. I should've let him in,

I should've let him in. I should've let him in. You better call the doctor. Just check your pulse if it starts to speed up. Should I call the police there? The police officers that called. I said, no, I told them I said, I got some bad news for your body.

I said, hang in there. I said, it's going to keep getting a lot worse. Yeah, yeah. I got another seat belt. I got another text 30 minutes later. And he's like, oh man, I don't know what's going on. And then nothing. I had radio silence for like four or five hours.

Then he gets back on. He's like, Brody goes, I was hearing nothing. I had radio silence for like four or five hours. Then he gets back on and he's like, Brody goes, I was hearing things. I thought people were out to get me. I had to keep talking to myself that, not everybody's out to get me. I heard my hair growing. Oh, it's not fun.

Yeah, overdosing like that. No, it's not at all. Right, boys? No, you guys have any experience? Yeah, that is so good. I kept me away from cannabis for a very long time, man. Bro, what about recently, what're talking about let that line go, you drink that whole can of wine.

Well, I'm okay with it now, right? So when I go too far now, like it's happened enough times in my life that I'm comfortable with. When that, when it's your first time of feeling that, it isn't numb. I mean, it was probably one of the better things that happened to me though, because I was 21 or 22,

a camera hot old I was when I, the first real cannabis experience I had. Cause you can make it worse, cause you're panicking. Yeah, no, exactly. And your heart rate goes up and then, I feel like I can't breathe. It right, you know, it's like,

it's a, oh, I hate that. It was awful. And did you, did you have a recent? I had one, did. Yours is my favorite. Oh, it's a movie theater. And I thought that it was just CBD.

Like, it was just like the CBD one because it was, I bought at the dispensary like a CBD-based, like, it was a cheap, it was a cheapa-tube. Cheebecue, but they come in different variations apparently. So this one had like the ratio, I think it was like, one to one. Yeah, but it was like 50, was it? No, no, no, no was like one to one. Yeah, but but it was like 50.

Was it no? No, no, no. The one that we did before was 50 milligrams of CBD, which is non-psychoactive Two milligrams of THC super miles. This was 50 50 This was I think it was like you took like 30 milligrams of THC or something like that or maybe more. No, it was 50 Yeah, 50 milligrams and so I was expecting to not feel psychoactive effects, right? So you're sitting there watching a movie, what I'm watching a movie and I'm getting to the previews and like, whoa, I know this feeling like, what is this? Why? Well, you know, like, okay, maybe this, because I also, like, I had a head of the, the relief pen. And it was like, because it also, like I had a head of the relief pen

and it was like, because I had CBD and it's like doubled up. It's like I had a little bit of THC and that. I was like, oh, maybe it was from that. No big deal. And it started ramping up. And it started ramping up. And it started ramping up. And then it got to a point where like there was this part,

and I think it was, this is one part where this evil villain, right? And the movie was basically had mind, what are you watching? What were you watching? The incredible. Incredibles. So the villain in it, right? What a great movie to be hired. Yeah.

Not this kind of high. No, no, no. So he starts using this suggestive, like, mind, you know, like hypnosis. Yeah. And then I started fucking hearing things. Like real, like, Is it when the screen was flashing?

Yeah. It was almost like I was gonna go into like a seizure, you know, like, and they said in the beginning, there's a warning, like, hey, warning, there's like, like, you know, if you're you're anything like a pre like you have any kind of condition Like so I'm like and of course at this point you remember the warning well exactly and that's exactly what happens to you when you when you go Overboard like that is that's what it word panic setting right yeah like oh shit and my chest I couldn't I'm looking up I couldn't I couldn't keep looking up and I started like literally hearing things like I was like tripping out. What were you hearing?

Just like devil shit Yeah, like a voice like cuz cuz he was manipulating like this hip hypnosis thing in the movie like that was like entering my My thoughts and it started to play all these I don't know, I was tripping out. What was it saying? I don't know. Oh, I forget now, but it was like something like, yeah, it was like, it was like, you're gonna die. Oh my God. I'm gonna kill you, like crazy shit, you know. And so I got up and I left the theater

and I started walking around the theater like real slowly and then I just, it wasn't working and I was like, I just gotta go home. I went home and sat on the couch, did you throw up? Puked my brains out and then was like just laying there watching SpongeBob and then finally, my kids were at my parents' thankfully, but I was just like, laying there just trying to come back to normal.

It was gnarly, dude. I would not have fun at all. You do not, it is the worst thing. I would, drinking too much alcohol is probably not even as bad as having too much, at least too much alcohol you're thrown up and you're sick and of course you can die. So I'm not talking about that. But too much cannabis is terrifying.

Well, when it was unexpected, you know, like that was the, like I was expecting to have like CBD. That's not gonna do shit. No, you know, like I just totally got thrown off. I told you guys about my client who they had, I'm not, I can't shit. No. You know, like I just totally got thrown off filter. I told you guys about my client who they had, yeah, I'm not gonna say too much because I don't wanna rat anybody out, but they had like a corporate housing

for when they would fly people in and stuff. And apparently somebody made pop brownies and left them in the fridge in the corporate housing. So somebody else went in there and took the brownies, took the brownies, brought them to work and put them in a break room. And this is a large tech company. Oh my God.

So nobody knew that they were eating a shit ton of THC. Nobody had any creativity. It's going through the roof. Now this person in mind is a friend, she was a CFO of a company. So she's in her office and right around 2 p.m. right around like two hours after lunch because everybody went in there and ate the fucking brownies.

She's getting phone calls, like ambulances are showing up. She's like, what's going on? She goes down there and there's like 15 people spread out, one guy's got his shirt open, I'm dying. Everybody's on the floor, ambulances showing up, checking on people, like everybody's okay, like everybody's okay, but something must have happened, freaking out, she goes in the break room,

sees the crumbs, starts to put two and two together, and she's like, oh, everybody just had too much. Get out of it. But actually had to call ambulance as a joke. Because they had no idea what was going on. It's a fucking was a terrible experience. Absolutely. Absolute terrible.

And one of the worst things I ever did was when I flew, I went to Italy and I was by myself because at the time my ex-wife left and she was there with the kids and I was gonna meet them there. And I hate flying, I really don't like flying. And I had just gotten a dental procedure and my dentist, who's my friend is like, hey, do you want, you want Xanax for your dental procedure? So I'm like, sure, never took them, but I had just gotten a dental procedure and my dentist, who's my friend, is like, hey, do you want, you want Xanax for your dental procedure?

So I'm like, pff, sure. Never took them, but I had them. So I get on the plane and I took a full milligram of Xanax, which apparently is a strong dose and they took an edible with it. Dude, you ever sleep so hard that you can't wake up? You ever have that feeling? Yeah.

That's freaky. I was on the plane and I was like, you're like trying to get up you just like no no you're just like bodies fighting oh it was a terrible feeling but that you know that 10 hour flight went by pretty quick dude you know what's crazy so like I mean I'm hearing all these like stories coming out about ambient and like what kind of crazy shit people have done like on ambient and like, they've actually run people over not even knowing it. They've like painted their bathroom like with all of their lipstick

and like done like crazy shit. Like and I had no idea. Just like they got up out of their bed and just started doing shit. Sleep eating, like they'll get up and there was, there's the stories of people who took ambient to sleep and then it couldn't figure out why they were gaining weight. I had a client who had That this and he actually ended up having to put a lock on his refrigerator. He would sleep eat. Yeah weird. Yeah, I trained this guy

Leelin and he used to Big big let's his first lesson Come on, there's fucking a million Leelins out there right this guy was like common names like John big big Really can't narrow out now Proximity wise Lee lives that trade with Adam This and he was a big dude real big dude. He was like, high, high 200s, almost 300 pounds. And for, what, it was a great client. I love training him.

He's just thinking about it right now. I was remembering all the funny stories of training this guy. Like, he was notorious for, between sets. He, he figured, and it took me a while before I started to piece this together, he would distract me with questions so he could rest longer. You guys ever have a client that you could do that?

Because I cared so much about teaching my clients and even though they were there to get worked out and I was going to push them through their workout or whatever, you know, I also, if you had a question about something, I would want to explain it. And, you know, he was one of the, he was one of the first clients that I ever like, realized like, oh, this fucker is actually, he's, I can get him going here. So, I guess longer. So, we would do like hard stuff.

Like whenever we're doing like squats or something like that, he would be like, hey, you know, explain this to me Adam. You're talking about, you know, thermogenesis. Like exactly what does that mean? And like, so I had to go into like, details, and like, this fucker every time I just, if I increase the intensity, just a little bit, the student would ask these questions. So he was a, he was a great client, but he also, we, we struggled a lot. Like he, you know, I, I got him through like the first, like, good 50 pounds. And it was a long time

before he came forward on this. And he says, you know, I've been taking this, and I don't know if it was ambient, but he was taking something to help him sleep at night. And he goes, I get up and I sleep, I sleepwalk, and then I go in the kitchen and I make food. And he goes, and I don't remember it. He goes, and I'd be like, I was kind of calling him bullshit.

I was like, no, come on, dude. That's the worst excuse ever. Yeah, I was like, come on, come on, dude. Like, you, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm gonna dogate my home or two. I'm like, yeah, what are you going in there? And you're just like drinking something or what that? He's like, no, I'll make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

I'm like, come on, you're making a sandwich and you don't remember, but he's to the point where. It happens. Yeah, he ended up, yeah, he ended up putting a lock on the refrigerator. He did a whole thing. So there's stories of people who will make the weirdest dishes. Like they'll make like ketchup and cereal bowls

or they'll take bread and you know, and you know, put chicken in it and just do weird things and eat them. And then there's a story. I was reading about this whole article about this situation. This one man's woman, a wife would take Ambien or I don't remember what the drug the medication was But she'd wake up in the middle of night and have the freakyest sex with him in the middle of night

And it was and he was not sound like a bad side and he and he Well, he's started doubling up in her inner inner teeth Well, I know here's your here's your tea. No, so he would make little comments, but she didn't pick up on it. So he'd say something like, that last night was good and she'd be like, whatever. Not picking up on it. And then he said something to her about like, man, this is not like you, like you're really,

I really enjoy what's going on. She had no idea. And he was so happy because she, I guess the sex was incredible and dirty or whatever and she's never like that. I wonder if he was like, wow, fuck, I shouldn't have said anything. Yeah, you blew it, buddy. That was your one ticket.

We'll have it in there. Tiger Woods getting trouble. Doesn't that one of the drugs he would take with these girls to party? It's Bill Cosby. No, no, no, no, no, not to rip. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, like kind of suppress you like that, that gives you this high when your body tries to, when you try and fight and you try to stay away. Is it like when a little kid doesn't go to sleep

and they can get all wired and crazy? Yeah, I think so. You ever seen that? They always thought that was hilarious. Yeah. Well, that makes no sense. They get so tired. So silly.

You know, that point. You both, I mean, we've all been this way. I've definitely got here before where, I mean, I'm trying to leave the last time. It wasn't that long ago. I know with Katrina, where I've just had it this crazy day, I was up at, you know, 4.35 o'clock and just like, grinding all day long and then just one thing after another

and then it's like midnight and I was exhausted at five and you had to push through all the way and then like, midnight can't sleep and I had the giggles, you know, I'm just like in a goofy mood. Yeah, I was stupid. Yeah, I wonder, does that happen before or after you get like really angry? Cause it's one or the other for me.

Yeah, yeah, like, I get really tired, like I get like insanely angry. Do you really? Yeah, but then there's sometimes I'll get like, I'll get goofy and like just loopy. Yeah, I think it's after that, right? I think after you've been, you've been so exhausted, you've broke through that.

And it's just like, now you just fuck it. It's just like, yeah, it's ridiculous. No, this happened to me yesterday, I was so tired because the night, I was up the other night because my daughter was sick. I go lay down to take a nap, and you guys know me,

I can take a nap whenever I want. So I'm like, I'm gonna take a 25 minute nap, and I shut my eyes, and then I, oh, tried to get up so hard. I was like, what the, it felt like it should be the morning. That's how hard I slept. And I ended up sleeping for an hour. I never do that.

Took an hour now out of nowhere. You're, you're like slightly wake up, but you can't, but you feel like like something, something's sitting on your chest. Can't move. That is a terrifying thing. Oh, I hate that. That's a sleep paralysis. Yeah. Is what a terrifying thing. Oh, I hate that. That's a sleep paralysis.

Yeah. Is what it's called. Never happening at them? Well, I get the, you know, in your arm falls asleep so bad and you can't move it. Oh, yeah. Very tricky too. Where it like, it completely goes,

and then you move like this and it just flies. Yeah, you still can't move. You've lifted with the other arm. Yeah. And I hate that. And I feel like as I've gotten older, it takes longer to come back to life. That's when you do this.

So like, can you do the strange thing? Yeah, I'm doing this. I'm going like, oh god, this is, I'm looking at my watch for like, oh shit, this is like a whole minute. It's the real quick stranger pump in. Yeah. Like a little limperist.

No, the sleep paralysis is fucking terrifying. I hate that feeling. It's one of the worst feelings in the world, but it's a real common one. I guess it's because your brain is, now what do you do it? What are you thinking when this happens to you? Because I have this weird thought process.

Yeah. I think to myself like, make sound so people know. Yes. You can't make sound though. Well, I think I do, but I think this is what it sounds like. Yeah.

Because you can't really do much. But I want someone to be like, oh my God, sound needs help. Wake him up. Thank you so much. I was in sleep paralysis. Instead, but I want someone to be like, oh my God, tell me it's help. Wake him up. Thank you so much. I was in sleep paralysis. Instead, what I've done is I can only see like so far too, like the little slits of your eyes open,

you know, I couldn't like even open my eyes out while I had in that state. It's a weird state to be in, but then, you know, I have come up with a couple tricks that this ever happens to you. So I used to have a lot of sleep issues. Yeah, that's happened to me before. I had a lot of sleep issues as a kid,

so and this is why I think I was able to loosen a dream at such a young age and so consistently, and this is another thing that used to happen in the whole time, was that sleep paralysis. And what I did is I developed a technique to get myself out of it. So, the way you get out of it is you have to start moving apart of your body.

Once you start moving apart of body, the rest of you wakes up, right? Well, that's hard to do, but you can typically move your tongue. Oh, your tongue. Yes. So if you're in this position, I was gonna say toes, I was trying to wiggle on the... No, it's impossible.

Everything goes, yeah, move your tongue in your mouth, move it around, and then little by little, you should be able to move the rest of your body and wake up. That's gotta look really weird. Yeah. Courtney just said. What's he dreaming? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, it's happening again.

When you sleep at night, do you sleep with your wife, like, with your arm around her? She's my other side. He's my other side. No, not at all. We talked about this. I'm hot, dude. I don't want to be near me.

You're the cutler. Yeah. I'm the spooner. I'm going to hold her hand for a bit, and then I'm just like, OK, see you later. Really? Tomorrow. You're so cuddly, though, I'm the spooner. I'm gonna hold her hand for a bit and then I'm saying, okay, see you later. You're still cuddly though. I am, I'm like a touchy person, you know, with her, but like, at the same time, I need my space.

Really? Yeah, yeah, it's kind of a weird, you know. Katrina got mad at me because I said that I'm not on the podcast that day. But you're not a cuddler? Yeah, so you said you're too a cuddler. Only because I love you fucking hate it. Oh, no, no, no, no.

That's why I told her. It's because you want to all the time and I love you. So that's me right there. Oh, I'm a big cutler. My girl, my girl is a big cutler. It's got to be cold as man. If it's freezing, if it's freezing, I'm all about it, man. But it's just rare that's that freezing. I mean, we it, man, but it's just rare that it's that freezing.

I mean, we live in California. You don't show a lot of signs of affection in public, right? You're not a PDA person. No, no, in fact, I mean, that's if you, definitely a flaw of mine for sure is that I'm not a, you know, it's weird, I'm just rubbier. No, no, no, I'm a touchy, feely person. Like, I put my hands on your shoulders

and put my arm around you guys and hug people. I do all that stuff, but. Little grabby grab. I'm not affectionate. Little junk tap. I'm not very affectionate with Katrina in public at all. I'm not into that. It's something that I've had to get better about too.

Because I know there's moments where that makes her feel good. Because especially in what we do and being a trainer and being around, there's many times where I have her with me and then we run into people or there's girls and things like that. Well, that has to be, and I know that has to make the partner. Yeah, that's much, but then I'll do that, and then she's like, she just thinks that I'm immediately trying to get in her pants. Yeah. I'm like, calm down, she's giving you a kiss.

Yeah. She's more, it's's nine times the time. She knows that it's in my head. Always, but you know, at the same time, like I'm just being affectionate. I'm a huge touchy-feely person in public wherever it doesn't matter. And then just guys too, so we'll just hang on each other.

I'm like that with my kids, I'm like that with my friends. I can't help it. But what I don't like is when it's fake. Sometimes you'll see guys and girls do this to each other in front of other people to claim them almost. Oh yeah. I hate that. Oh yeah.

You can see that. You know, so funny. You just reminded me so we could out. I know someone in particular. Katrina and I, we got out of the theater just this was just last weekend. And we come walking out to our car, and we parked kind of far,

this was over at the Campbell area, right? So we parked away so we can get a nice little, what was part of some of our strategies, keeping our steps up, right? We parked far away from it. And so it's kind of this dark part of the parking lot. And we come walking around to our car, and there's like literally a couple leaning on our car,

like just making out. On your car? Yeah, and they're like, in their probably early 40s like just making out on your car. Yeah, and they're like in their probably early 40s. Oh, God. Right now. And they're, you know what that is, right? So listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Hey, why are you gonna fucking run the story?

That's true though. Is there a fucking terrible? We thought it. Oh, damn it. So the, and the, what made the story great, if you let me fucking finish was I'm good. We come walking around and it's just like, oh my God, it's so, you finish, was I'm good. We come walking around and the kitchen is like, oh my God, it's so, you know,

and I'm like, you knew right away. Yeah, right away, I knew. It's like, we get in the car and stuff like that and I'm like, and I just kinda like, well, that was an affair, right? And the kitchen is like, now why do you have to think like that or say that? It doesn't, I'm like, honey, it's Tuesday, okay?

It's Tuesday night at 10 o'clock at night, they drove separate, we watched, because they felt embarrassed when we rolled up. So as we come walking around the corner and they saw that it was our car that we're trying to get into, they're leaning against. They bolted to their two separate cars. They're trying to sneak it in.

Yeah, and then just took off. And I'm like, dude, they were still... No, it behaves like that. No, 40-year-olds, 40-year-olds, that drive committed relationship. And they were in business attire. They were looking they were working tire. You could tell they were in still-work attire for sure. Like you do. I was like, when have we ever made out in a park? You

like that? Like on a Tuesday night? That's the kind of passion like 18 or 20. Yeah. Well, no, that's the kind of passion you see early on in a relationship when two people are just like, ah, right. So either they just started dating or they were cheating on their, their boyfriends or spouses or what. Totally cheating. Which is probably the most. Totally cheating.

It was so obvious in the fact that she didn't think that right away. I thought it was so cute. I was like, get out of here with that. Dude, they're not there. They're so nice. Aw, it's like, oh yeah, no, I'm there. After I broke it down, she's like,

okay, you probably are right. I said, yeah, yeah, you probably right It smells like infidelity you should have freaked him out. I'm gonna tell your wife Give me 20 bucks. Hey, your wife watch that even though they broke it was like so obvious to me I mean they were it was like full on eating each other's faces Realize that they're leaning against our car that we have to get into that car and it was like They just like see you later. And then just went plus it's making out. Like full-on making out typically happens

in the beginning of a relationship. It doesn't typically happen after a few years. Nobody does that. You know what I mean? After a while. No, and they were, I mean, they were eating each other's so it was like, just, and they're not. You see that like, okay, now that's a little common

in front of the mall still with the 15 to 17 year old group range, but not to 17 year old group range But not a 40 year old off of Tuesday night 40 year old Tuesday night after work in your business clothes in the parking lot It's like an office affair Over in the you know the back cubicle for sure, dude What do we have three how many days left are we at at for the end of the launch promo for strong three days left? You know what I'm so pumped about how this one is because I remember when we first created it

We there was a little bit of hesitancy on Would the audience love it as much of the else and I would blown away by the responses that we're getting with this dude It's and I think it's because people want to be strong man. It's. It's one of my favorite programs I've ever done. You said Jessica. You said Jessica's favorite program. Why is it her favorite program? First of all, there's a lot of posterior chain stuff in it. But the exercises are different.

The workouts are different. It's functional in a different way. And it's just fun, especially if you're in to strength. So like if you like maps and a ball, like in your into strength, map strong is like a great progression because it's a lot of strength stuff But then again the work sessions are you need fucking stamina for that. There's great There's great moves there to circus press dude like there's said there's cool stuff in there like a powerful badass Yeah, doing doing the stuff in this program. It's so much fun

Well, it's the only program too that we do even touch 20 rep range. Oh, dude. And that was like right out of the shoot. Pro of the carries, the heavy carries are my favorite. I never knew that those things would build that much muscle until I did them consistently, like I did through the program. So there's only a few days left. So make sure you go check that out. I'll get it. MAPStrong.com and get started today.

It's the motherfucking world. An English landed. Quiqueau. First question is from Josh D. Paz. How important are scheduled rest days? Okay, cool question. Yeah, very good question. It's very, very important.

Very important to give. Very overlooked too. To give your body a break. But I do want to be clear when I'm talking about rest days, what I mean. I do think, you know, doing nothing sometimes is good for you if you want to relax or whatever. But when I scheduled a rest day, a rest day to me, what it used to me when I was a kid was to sit on the couch

and do not take your feet up and veg. Yeah, because when I was younger, I was under the impression that any calorie that I burned would be a calorie that wouldn't go towards building muscle. So I would lift weights and then I try to conserve as much energy as possible to build muscle. That's actually not the case. Active recovery or moving,

not maybe not working out that day, but actually moving your body like you're doing a hike, or you're doing mobility work, or you're doing some stretches, or housework, or whatever. It's actually more conducive to recovery. It actually helps you recover faster and build more muscle. The laying down type of rest, where you do nothing, there's very, very few times when that's appropriate.

And that's when you really, really overdone it, when you really worked out too hard to the point where... Like you competed or something. Yeah, it's something like insanely strenuous. Yeah, the day before. Yeah, you're inflamed or whatever. But otherwise, if you lay down and do nothing on a rest day, you're actually gonna compromise your progress.

Anytime you don't move, muscle tries to pair itself down. And for those that don't believe me, put your forearm in a cast for just two days. Just see what happens in two days. You'll lose muscle on that two days. I always feel more sore and stiff, you know, if I haven't been able to move and keep things going, like getting into the next workout, you just dread it, man.

If you've just been laying around and you haven't been actively recovering. It is. On average, I would say that for me, I have some kind of a scheduled workout every single day, but I modify the intensity so much that in reality, I can consider at least one to three of them to be active rest days. So I might do some trigger sessions or some mobility work, but I only really more important than I guess scheduling the rest days, scheduling the hard workout days and everything else. Yeah, so I only really more important than I guess scheduling

the rest days, scheduling the hard workout days and everything else. So I'm glad you went that way because I really don't schedule a rest day. Like I don't look at a week and go like, okay, this is on this day, this on this day, and then Thursday, I'm going to take that day off of lifting. Like, it doesn't look like that for me. Like, and this is why too, and I've talked on this show a lot, that no matter what program I'm following or what my goal or adaptation is, I'm going to the gym. I'm trying to go to the gym seven days a week.

Now sometimes that doesn't happen. Sometimes I'm out of town and it just doesn't happen, but I have a time in the day that I wanna get to the gym for that one to two hour block that I wanna be consistent about. And then I dictate what that looks like really the day going into it or maybe the day before because I kind of can feel how my body feels, like this, so yesterday, you know, we had, this was unplanned for me.

It was unplanned that I was, well, we knew we were gonna, I was gonna do a YouTube shoot, but I didn't realize all the movements that I was gonna be doing and I had planned a workout. And I really wanted to kind of get after my workout, but I actually did a lot of quite a bit of volume in my YouTube. So in turn, but it wasn't really damaging.

So I ended up just counting this as like an active recovery day and then just chalked it up. Instead of going and pushing my body beyond, like now I feel great today, now I can get after my lift today that I didn't do yesterday. So I'm, I don't schedule rest and the reason I have in the past, so I have tried this before. I have tried like, okay, I'm gonna really,

you know, make sure I don't do anything, but then I end up staying and doing nothing all day long. So, and then what ends up happening is, in every little something happens in my week where I get busy or I don't have as much time and then I don't get that hard workout that I wanted to get. And so I feel like instead of scheduling a day that I'm for sure gonna take a day off on Friday,

it's like I go about my week, I'm planning to go to the gym every single day, but based off of how I feel going into that workout, it may end up being a quote unquote, rest day or an act what we call what we I don't even like saying right. I like to call them active recovery days now. I don't even consider them. I don't consider it because a rest day I think has the connotation of doing nothing right. I think I'd write I teach people like there are no rest days.

You know what there are are there's there's hard foundation. There's hard foundational workout days, which is how we designed our program. And then you have the off days, which is how we've programmed, and we teach people to do mobility, or to do focus sessions, which are these lower intensity types of exercises that still promote movement,

promote blood flow, promote oxygen, promote recovery in the body, but you're still active in moving. You're just not doing a lot of damage to the body. Yeah, and I feel like you could get more sophisticated with it. You see that with HRV and you see that with technology that exists out there that's really trying to monitor those variables more specifically.

Or like something like Mike Selimmi that know, his heart rate and is really in tune with, you know, the amount of stress he's applying to his body, but, you know, for your average person, I mean, it's really just like, you gotta base every day, like, and judge every morning differently, and like, and you just proceed forward with whatever type of, you know, like, energy you have to have.

That's a great point right there too, that's something else I'd take into consideration too, is some days I do, I want to get a planned to get a really hard workout, but then that's also just ends up being a really stressful day. Maybe I didn't sleep well that night before, I didn't get proper meals in early, so I'm not fueled properly either.

And so just because I had planned, I was going to crush the weights. I may end up swapping that out for more of an active recovery day, where I'm not hammering the weights, and then let myself get fed, rested really well, and then I end up switching the day. But we got to make that point. Active recovery amplifies or facilitates recovery. So you actually speeds up the recovery process and contributes as a result, contributes to your progress,

you know, aka, so it's still more positive. It's not like you're detracted. No, you build more muscle, you burn more body fat and you can move better. I remember the first time I learned this lesson was as a kid, I was, I think I was 15 or 16 years old and I had just bought myself a BMX, you know, bike. I had bought myself a Mungus. Yeah. After you watch Rad or what? No, I never

watched that movie. I watched it. I watched it. It looks terrible. I watched it. Yeah, I watched it. So anyway, and during this period of time, I, of course, I started lifting weights at 14. I was very serious about it. And I thought if I worked out a muscle group and it was sore, leave it alone so that I can repair and rebuild. This was the understanding that I had and it was obviously false. So I had worked out my arms really hard one day. My biceps were super sore. I was trying to get my arms to grow.

And the next day I woke up, they really sore. But my cousin comes over and he has his new BMX bike. He had a horror, I think it was. So he shows up and he's like, dude, let's go fucking bunny hopping and jumping and all this shit. So I'm like, ah, man, I don't know, my arms are sore. I don't know if I should ride and he's like,

don't be a pussy and I'm like, all right, let's do it. So I get on my bike and we go and we go. And we gotta say, 15 year old boy, that's it, right? Yeah, that's it, man. And all day long, what we did is we jumped off the curb and did bunny hops. Well, that's a lot of biceps and forearms, a lot, all day long. And I remember halfway through it, I was like,

damn, I wasted my workout. Like, my biceps are sore. I'm not giving them an opportunity to grow because I'm pulling on these bars, but whatever I'm having fun. But I remember being kind of disappointed. No joke, the next day, my arms were a little bit bigger. And I remember thinking, well, that's weird.

I was just pulling this handlebar at the time while I'm working out. And I had a lot of those examples throughout my life and really it really came to fruition. The first time I applied the concepts of maps and a ballock in the trigger sessions, and I remember being like, man, I'm recovering way faster,

and I'm building more muscle by moving, not by not moving, not moving doesn't do that. So, that's why we do that in all of our programs. Map strong is a little different because you have your work sessions, which if you're doing the program and what I'm getting, the messages I'm getting, the work sessions are harder than the foundation workouts

and they are though, but kick your ass. But there's a couple days off during the week where you have no scheduled workouts. On those days, I highly recommend, if you're doing MAP strong, to do something that's light and active, that moves the body. And look, we've all experienced this. You know, if you're listening right now,

you know what I'm talking about, you hammer your legs, your legs get real sore. Do they feel better after you stretch them or do they feel worse after you stretch them? They typically feel better. Just get up and move and it makes things progress. That's how you heal.

Next up is fish tails. What are your thoughts on kids and weight training? When is a good time to start and how? What qualities and a trainer should I look for if I were to hire one? Man, I wish that I was introduced to training as a kid. I really do. I really wish that I think there's so many things that the kid can learn other than just

building muscle, like just the discipline of it and the understanding the body and learn. Skills you carry with you the rest of your life. Yeah, like I mean, I get really excited when I watch you right now, Sal, with your son and what you're going through right now, because I think it's a really cool thing to see at his age, to see him kind of wanting to learn and get excited about that. And I can't wait to watch him develop over the next three to five years and what that does for him. Well, besides the fact that it's me and him, you know, having a nice bonding time, which that's the part that I really like. That's the part that makes my heart swell is that,

I get to share something with him that we, because I don't like video games and he loves them, and I actually thought about getting a computer and getting good at them so I could do that with him, but it's something I have to go do or whatever, but now he's into weights, we get to bond over it, and I freaking love it, but there's a lot of tremendous other benefits that come from resistance training,

and one of the ones that, and I, working out with kids or training kids was one of my favorite things to do as a trainer. My two favorite demographics were people in advanced age and kids. They always have it. I love working with those two groups. I hate it. I know. And a lot of trainers say that.

A lot of trainers say those are the two that they don't like. But I loved working with old people because the stories they would tell me would be just amazing. And I love working out with kids because I loved seeing how the rest of their life would take hold and shape because of the lessons they learned with resistance training. One of the things about exercise that's so phenomenal

is it's so black and white. And what I mean by that is you exercise and you do a good job today, the next time you come in, you're stronger. It's very clear black and white, put in hard work. Yeah, one plus one equals two. Here's your result and here's your progress. Very few things in life or like that in the sense that, you know, like let's say you're

working towards getting better grades, it could take you weeks of studying before you see that. Or let's say you want to become successful in business, it could take you years of work or whatever. I could typically show a kid a difference in strength in one workout, especially a kid because kids' body's response so fast. So what I would do when I train a kid is I do an exercise with them, let's say I did push-ups, then I'd write it down and I'd show them. I'd always do this with kids.

I'd show them. All right, today you did 10 push-ups and it was really hard. And I'd say, okay, remember that. and I'd show them. I'd always do this with kids. I'd show them. All right, today you did 10 push-ups, and it was really hard. And I'd say, okay, remember that. And I'd show them. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Then they'd come in the next time, and I'd have them do push-ups.

I know what would happen. They'd be able to do one more. At least one more. One to two more is average. Then they'd do another push-up, and they'd be like, how was that? And they would forget. They'd totally forget.

And they'd be like, oh, that was pretty good. I said, well, you did 11. So do you remember what you did last time? Well, I don't know, about the same. I said, you did 10. And they were really hard for you. I said, do you know what that means? And they would always look at me.

I said, you, your body, is not the same body as it was last week. It is fundamentally different. The body you had last week could only do 10 push-ups. The body that has developed as a result of that workout, this week can now do 11 push-ups. The body that has developed as a result of that workout, this week, can now do 11 push-ups. You are not the same person and you did that because you did that workout. The looks on kids' faces, that same exact speech every time, the look on a kid's face is absolutely priceless. Then to see them take that lesson of sacrifice, work, result, and apply it towards school, towards whatever.

It's fucking amazing. Yeah, and it's interesting, because my view of it has definitely changed as far as training kids. There used to be like an age limit for me. No, I don't think they should be doing anything other than play. And learning for themselves and understanding and finding their own body movement patterns and figuring that

out, but structured play is so beneficial. And then also just like if they're into it and they're coming in and they want to learn and they want to actually like lift weights, if you have a good coach, somebody that really knows mechanics soundly and can teach it, man, what a gift you're giving a kid going forward for the rest of their life. As long as it's like a coach that you trust and it's somebody that really knows how to teach it to this kid and have them

go through those movements. And the thing is with that, it doesn't have to be a lot of weight, but it's the experience they're going to go through to see that, like Sal Sain is just the gradual progression of that. And then taking that skill set and ironing out that skill set, that's huge. That's why I'm excited about same thing. My boys get older.

Right now it's a little bit more heavy on the play side and they do ask me every now and then, I've been trying to sharpen up their kettlebell press or we've worked with kettlebells a little bit but they see me working with a barbell. So I actually am looking into getting, they have these kids' barbells now that would be a great, just, I mean, doesn't weigh that much, but as far as like them, you know, they're already mimicking my movements.

Why not teach it? Dude, they said them up. And the key really, if you're for a trainer, to train kids, the reason, because I did very well at this, parents were bringing their kids, and then parents would come back after a week and be like, I wanna hire you for the next six months or whatever, and they'd buy these massive packages. And really the reason why I was successful with kids is I made sure the kids enjoyed being there.

That's the key, by the way. Key is, when you're working with adults, yeah, when you're working with adults, you could just be like, do this, do that, work on this. But adults still need to like you too if you want to be a successful trainer with kids It's even more important like they you know They go to school they get told what to do with another gonna come to work out and you're gonna You got to kind of make it enjoyable have a good time

And so what I would do is I would spend the Set that we were doing so we would do an exercise and then I became a trainer when we're doing the set Pull your shoulder back grab the bar squeeze it pull it down I'd say things like, oh, you're getting stronger, that's awesome. Keep going, John, that's great. And then they put it up and then we'd have conversations that had nothing to do with the workout.

Do you tell me about what happened yesterday and they tell me about the school worker? What's that game you're playing? They tell me about that and I joke around with them, have a good time. Okay, let's do another set and then I became a personal trainer and because I broke it up that way, I kind of became friends with these kids

and they looked up to me and I think that's what you want for a trainer, for your kid. You want a trainer that your kid, oh he definitely needs to be in a relationship with them. He definitely needs to have patience. I think a good, if you go to a, if you hire a trainer out of a facility, the place you actually wanna go to is the boss, right? So you would, this is,

you would wanna come to me in this situation because I'm the one who's gonna tell you of my 20 trainers, who's the right one for your kid? Like instead of like walking up to who you think looks like a nice guy or who looks like he would be cool or someone that appeals to you, you go directly to the boss who oversees everybody in there

and you say, hey listen, I'm considering bringing my kid in here and I wanna hire a trainer, but I want the best trainer for kids to take him, you know, or her, whatever, you know, that that, that, because then I could tell you, based off of my staff, who would be the trainer that I think would best suit you?

Because all of my trainers should be capable of training kid, but, you know, I'll be the first to admit, like, I just didn't have the, I didn't have the patience, I didn't like it, it just drove me crazy. Because like Sal, like he, you obviously found a way to break through to these kids and then you enjoyed that and you got good at that craft, it was something that really quick I realized I didn't like doing

and I didn't need to do it and so I just, I turned it down, some kid would want, I don't have, you know, I've got clients already, I liked training, someone at got clients already I I like training So one of their my age up to like the 50 50 60 range like that was kind of my wheelhouse And so I didn't train a lot of kids although I trained enough kids to know that it's challenging You know because kids they get distracted really easy. They don't have their proprioception is terrible The biggest thing yet the focus on is body control. Yeah, the terrible body control.

Yeah, you have terrible body control. And what it takes to get to gain body control, takes some discipline and focus. And so to be slow everything down, which is hard for kids. Right, and that's really, really tough to do. And, you know, I think that finding the right trainer who likes to do that and enjoys that process, I think is really important. And I don't think anyone better would answer

that would be than the boss. Yeah, but I mean, let's talk about some of the benefits. Like watching this with my son right now, the progress that kids make with weights is insane. They progress at such a rapid rate. Like adults do not, they don't move like that. That growth hormone, dude. Well, I mean, that growth hormone

through the roof right now. Well, it's not even just the strength. It's like, like the first time I train my son and he'd hold dumbbells up, they'd be like, whoa, all over the place, and I'd have to kind of hold his wrists and help him balance. By the fourth workout, he's still wobbly,

but it's like way smoother. I'm like, this looks like months of training has already kicked in, but we've only had four workouts. We're not even at the point yet where I can push him in terms of resistance. When that starts to happen, it's going to be really exciting to see what could happen. But you know, you got to point things out to these kids too when you're training them. Like, whoa, you know, if you're training it, like when I trained guys, especially if I was training like early teens, like that was usually age group that people would

bring me like 13 year old, 14 year old. And if I'm training, I had a buddy that I trained for a long time. He's now an adult, but at the time when I started training was 13 years old and 14 years old. And he'd come in and he'd tell me about school and, oh, and I'd say, is there any girls in your school that you think are pretty and you kind of get all shy? And then we'd do curls and I'd yell across the gym.

Curls for the girls. And nobody'd be like, oh, all shy, we'd laugh. And you know, you kind of, you shy. And then we do curls and I'd yell across the gym. Curls for the girls. And nobody'd be like, oh, all shy, we'd laugh. And you know, you kind of, you buddy up with them a little bit and had a great time. But to watch their bodies change and respond to the strength that they build, it's incredible. And it's more permanent. You train a kid from 13, 14, 15, 16,

and you know, it's more permanent fitness than trying to erase years of damage that you get with the bills. Absolutely. So it's more permanent fitness than trying to erase years of damage that you get with the belt. Absolutely. So it's so important. Next question is from Jen DeAngelis. How do you know when it's time to leave your personal trainer and how do you break up with them

when you feel like they're friends? Ha ha ha. This is part of their trick. Yeah. Yeah. He's like guilt. If you're asking this question, you're probably it's time, probably to leave.

I mean, if you show up to your workouts and there's a lot of things you get from a personal training, you know, I had clients like this, right? I had clients that were with me for 10, 12, 13, 14 years. I had one lady I trained for that long and it was literally every Monday at 3pm I trained her and we did that for over a decade.

I had to feel this. And I, you know, probably five years into it, I remember I'd have these conversations with other trainers and people that work with me and I'd be like, you know, it's crazy. They don't really need me to do these exercises or to train them. They've been working out for so long.

They have all the tools and all the information, you know, and all the knowledge that they need just to train themselves. They could totally do it. They're not looking to be super advanced or anything. But I realized the reason why they came to see me was they enjoyed the session. They enjoyed the companionship of it, the motivation of it, and it was part of their schedule. And you know what? It worked for them and they enjoyed so It's hard to say how you know when it's time because I want to say things like well your work arts aren't changing more progressing

But I had clients like that too and I knew they saw value and just coming to see me so yeah very very difficult I think I would I would say to them. This is what I would do if I'm the client and I'm not the personal trainer Because I know what it's like to be the personal trainer and be closing you. And I know, yeah, exactly. And I'm really, I've overcome that. Yeah, I'm really, I'm really good at telling that. Right, I'm really good at that.

So I know, I know I'm sure there's probably been a lot of people that have been in this situation with me, especially as a young trainer early on. What I would say if I'm this person is, I would say, hey, you know, since this is my last contract with you, how do you think it's best I use my last four or five sessions or however many that you have left with them? And so you don't even drop a plan. Yeah, so you don't even ask them like, or you don't even let yourself get put in that said because here's what I do as a train train my trainers to do this.

You know, I know when you're coming up on a contract and they're taught by someone like me on how to get you committed to the next contract before you're even up on this contract. So if that he or she is a good trainer, there are they're already planting seeds to reassign you and keep you going. And then if you're friends on top of that, it's really hard for you to say no. So you got to beat them to the punch before they're already signing you up for your next contract. You're telling them like hey, since since this is my last contract and we only have X amount of sessions left, how do you think it's the best for me to separate them out?

And if you're already about to sign a new contract and when you're signing the new contract, you're saying, you know, this is gonna be my last contract that I do, is there a better way for us to spread the sessions out? Because I don't know how often you're seeing your trainer. It's not a bad strategy to take, like let's say you have four or five sessions

and I used to do this with some clients that, especially if they trained with me for years or a long time and then they were finally moving on. I'd say, hey, instead of us training your last three sessions in next week, let's actually spread them out over the next three months and you just check in with me.

Come in and see me and I can add more value to your life that way. That's how you keep them for 10, 15, 20 years to come. Yeah. Yeah. And exactly. And then they see value in that. Oh, shit, you know what? It's not that expensive for me to see Adam just one time a month.

And he gives me kind of an, I can get feedback. Hey, how you been going? It's usually one of those two things, right? It's just got to where it's too expensive, right? It's really just like the money is the monkey in the room or there's another trainer or a class that you're drawn to right now. And you really wanna go in that direction

but you wanna hurt the feelings or whatever and just do that instead. And so it's like, I get it because you do. You befriend, you create relationships. It just happens naturally. But this is one of those things that you have to just be honest and talk to them about it. That's the key.

Like, honesty is the best policy. There's a lot of awkward situations in life where you have to tell someone something that you don't want to tell them. But honesty, you'd be surprised how effective it is. I mean, if you'd like. It's a lot better receives anything. Yeah, if you go up to this trainer friend

and they're a friend of yours, and you say, you know, hey, John, I know we only have four workouts left. I think let's set me up to do some of this on my own. I wanna give this a shot on my own, or I wanna try something different, and tell them, like, I really appreciate it working with you. I've learned a lot with you, and we've had a lot of fun,

and I think it's time now I start trying some stuff out on my own, just be totally honest. It's really not a big deal. If they get their feelings hurt, that's on them. But you would be surprised how well people take honesty. Yeah, and that happened. I remember my career, some people had a lot of hesitancy to tell me, I can't do another month, you know?

Like, and it was either financial or it was like, just, you know, they wanted a break and they wanted to do something else or whatever. I'm like, yeah, awesome, you know, like, do it. Like, or we could work it out, we could spread out like Adam's talking about, you know, there's other options if it's a financial issue or whatever it is, but that conversation needs to happen.

Don't like, the more you think about it and dwell on it, the more it's going to get uncomfortable. Right. So just have that conversation already. Next up is weak rocker. What are your thoughts in regards to therapy with a professional? Have you ever sought counseling and what was your experience like? What, you know what? I forgot about this.

I forgot that you started that, didn't you? As far as, I mean, I've been through it my whole life. So it's like, I'm obviously, what was it like scheduled weekly? Cause I know you're, and was this after your father's suicide? Yeah, that was my first experience. Well, that was my very first experience,

but I've had many experiences with therapist and stuff since then. But it was originally with a family counselor when my father committed suicide, that we would go to. It was a really good time for me to see this because I also had a mom who remarried into a abusive relationship and it was very dysfunctional. And so watching the counselor communicate and teach my parents how to communicate, I picked up on as a eight, nine year old really well.

And I definitely attribute a lot of my communication skills to all of the therapy that I went through. And honestly, to me, it's so valuable just for that. This is what they're great at. I mean, a therapist, in my opinion, is up there with some of the best communicators out there. That's what they are incredible at doing is communicating. So even if, I think some people go into therapy

with like, oh, I have this problem. And I going to go to this person and they're going to solve it. They don't solve it. They really just ask you all the right questions. You end up solving it yourself. But I think if you're smart and you can unpack that and you realize what they do, I think that just shows you the art of communication and that ability. And I think that carried with me for the rest of my life. And I think it's the ultimate interviewer. Bro, they are. I mean, a therapist is, that's, they do. They just sit back and ask questions and they listen really well and they dig deeper and deeper and deeper into the, into the questions.

Well, talking, talking is thinking. I mean, when you're having a conversation, you're thinking out loud and it helps you organize your thoughts and put things into words. And your therapist is an unbiased individual, a professional who knows how to kind of remain that way and allow you to talk and ask you the right questions. Because sometimes, you know, first off, talking to friends and family, that's also very effective. But it's quite common that they're not unbiased. I mean, if you have a problem and you're talking to a family member about it, they probably have an opinion and they're not unbiased.

There's a biased opinion or your spouse may be biased or maybe there's a history there or a friend. Here you get to meet a stranger that you have no past or history with, no resentment with, no issues with their unbiased, they're obviously professionals of what they do. And then you get to sit down and what you end up finding when you talk to a counselor is because you don't have all that background weight of whatever that you have, because you're talking to a stranger, you start to even communicate differently.

You start to find that, oh wow, I can actually process this a lot better and more effectively than I could before. I think a lot of people don't know the, I tell you what, incredible bloke, I'm actually working through it a second time right now because this is probably the best read this year for me and that's how emotions are made.

And a lot of people don't realize it, probably, fucking 80% maybe of the things that come flying out of your mouth is an emotional reaction. And that's how we respond to things and that there's something that's deeper that rooted in that response. Like we just, we say things and we think

that those are our beliefs, but nobody spends a lot of time, or not a lot of it, I shouldn't say nobody. Very few people spend a lot of time unpacking that, like, why do I believe that? You know, I sure I know I feel this way and I feel strongly about it, but very few people challenge themselves and ask themselves, well, why do I feel that strongly about that?

And where does that come from? And the more you go and unpack that, the more you learn and you find out about yourself. And so I think that's an extremely powerful tool and these professionals Understand this at a at such a high level that you could be just they'll ask you question and you just start blurting out How you feel because you're responding by emotions. And then they pause you in those moments, go, wait, tell me Justin, why do you feel that way? Why did you say that?

That that makes you upset. Like explain to me why that makes you upset. And then you explain, well, I just get to be so mad when she does this and says this to me and this and that, but why though? What is it about what she's saying to you that triggers that for you and where does it come from?

And then they start dying. And the next thing you know, it's like, holy shit. You start diving in. It's like some- They're helping you think. They're helping you process. And think. And when you start to realize that,

I think that that tool, I wouldn't go to therapy right now, because Katrina asked me after that episode that Sal talked about going that. She goes, do you think you would go to therapy right now? And I said, I don't think so. She's totally telling you to go to. Yeah, right. I should. That's so you need it right now. I said, I don't think that's a good idea. I don't think so. I think that. I mean, if she said something to me, like absolutely, I respect her like that, but I don't think she would either. I think that I've become a self-aware enough person that if there's something going on in my life, I've now, because of all the therapy

I've been in my entire life, I have the tools that they possess to do that to myself. I also have the self-awareness to recognize, am I being an asshole? Is this not working out for me? Why are all these bad things happening in my life? Like, on the common denominator, let's get to the bottom of this, and I have the ability to dive into that. Now, some people haven't practiced this and they don't have that exercise down. You have to be careful by saying that, because a lot of people listening, or going to think that, a lot of people themselves, that's usually what stops people, right? I'm not talking about you in particular, but that's what stops a lot of people from seeking

out, talking with a professional therapist, is they think, oh think oh, I look I know I got this I know my problem Well, that's night that would be naive to think that way because the only reason why I think I can even Slightly say that is because I've put the hours and hours and hours and hours and hours in a practice Well, I Of doing that that that's his naive is saying that you can play a sport because you watched it on television. Well, I think a more accurate thing to say is you're aware enough to know when you need therapy. That's, the way I look at it,

I had this conversation actually last night, is you know, we hire business CEOs, tend to hire business coaches. In fact, if you look up the statistics, a majority of successful CEOs, people who run billion dollar companies have a business coach. You think why that person need a business coach?

They started one of the most successful. Do you watch billions? No, I don't. Oh, remember the psychologists in the workforce? Oh my God, such a powerful character. You got to watch it. But that's part of my point is these people who started these businesses who are billionaires,

who you think, why do they need a business coach? They have business coaches. Some of the greatest athletes in the world have athletic coaches. Some of the greatest trainers in the world have training coaches and all that stuff. And a therapist, the way I look at it, it's almost like, I mean, it's like a life coach,

but not really, I hate that term life coach, but it's like somebody who's helping you work and process things for your own life. And the way I'm viewing it now is like, you know, I don't think I wanna see someone every single week, but why not see someone once a month or every other month sit down? It's interesting to think about, especially when you become more visible, more successful,

and you come up with, like, you're presented with a lot more variables, a lot more challenges in your life that you've never even known before, and you're just swimming in it. And like, a lot of times, you know, people don't want to seek help in that, because everything's going so well when, in fact, you're subtly drowning in it. That's the problem. The problem I see, and I could definitely see even myself getting trapped in this, is waiting until shit gets bad.

And then being like, oh, I need a therapist. When it's almost like it probably would benefit you more to see someone before the shit went bad. And so the way I'm looking at it now with therapy is I'm viewing it as a, more than a preventative, but just something that keeps things in perspective. In perspective moving and allowing me to think and process before shit gets difficult.

And now the reason why I sought one out was, I mean, I came out of a very challenging five-year period and I just thought to myself, like this is probably a good idea. Oh, it was traumatic as much as you wanna, you know, dismiss it, that's a traumatic experience you had to go through. Exactly, and so I think, you know,

with, I think the value is tremendous. I also do think, however, that it's extremely valuable when you have a good therapist. I can't imagine having a therapist that's not, I know people who've had bad experiences. Yeah, it's no different than like what we can't imagine having a therapist that's not, I know people have had bad experiences. Yeah, it's no different than like what we, the way we encourage personal training or not. It's the same thing.

I mean, would it hurt for me to have a badass coach who personal trains and breaks down my biomechanics and critiques things like that? And even though I'm a professional in that field, 100%. Dude, every now and then I love it because Mike's letting me like break me down like nobody else like no

I'm like, oh shit. Yeah, it's just great. It's a personal trainer for your brain Yeah, it's a personal trainer for your brain and help you process your thoughts like the thoughts and the way you act and you In your emotions like just how often do you exercise that how I see and that's what I mean Exactly. It's like taking an hour out so that's what I mean like and this is and I love this is also why I love Katrina Is that you know, I finally have found a partner that is the same way with this stuff is we exercise this a lot. Like this is a very common thing. I mean, our lives aren't perfect.

We disagree, we have things that frustrate us. We act a certain way, but we once 100% if someone's off-kilter at all, the other one will call the other one out right away and then we'll handle it. We'll talk about it. We'll discuss it and we'll get to the root cause of it. Hey, you seem off today. Are you okay? What happened at work today? What's going on? Okay, let's figure this out. I don't know. Why am I like that?

I've had clients who, I've had a lot of clients who've needed to lose a lot, a lot of weight. I'm talking about the severely obese. And the ones that I trained that also simultaneously worked with the therapist, far more successful. Of course, far, far more successful. That should almost be mandatory for that. No, I mean, I shared the story with you just recently with my family. It says, yeah, if you're putting that much,

that much weight on, there is a much deeper thing going on than just calories and exercise. There's something else that you're disguising that and you're using food as a drug. You may not do cocaine, you may not do heroin, you may not drink alcohol, you may not smoke weed, but you absolutely can abuse food. And you're abusing it because you don't want to feel something else. And so, yeah, no, I think if you're carrying that much weight, I 100% think that, and that, I mean, a good trainer, I mean, that's, I think part of my success is probably because of this, right?

I had all this therapy growing up as a kid, I learned this art of communication, I understood that piece, I wasn't the best trainer, I wasn't the best, like, as far as my science and understanding nutrition, like that came later on, but I was a great communicator, and I was able to see those things. I knew that about my clients.

I knew that if they were really obese, that there was something more about them. I mean, yeah, I'm here to teach them how to exercise and teach them what foods are good or not, but I was actually what I was really good at was helping them in other parts of their life. Like it just came natural to me. So, absolutely, I think that's important.

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