Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 886: How to Conquer Binge Eating, Overcoming Mental Hurdles, Avoiding Weed Hangovers & MORE

Episode Date: October 24, 2018

Organifi Quah! iTunes & Facebook Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions abou...t how to conquer binge eating, the biggest mental hurdles they have had to overcome, what they would pursue with all the time in the world and no other life restrictions and if there is such thing as a weed hangover. Catrina “Patient Zero”: The guys are all sick at the same time, time to bust out the cold busting Organifi remedies. (4:52) Mind Pump Weekend Update: The special bond of family: Adam’s mom gets married! (11:20) Justin has family visit from out of town. (17:30) Sal watches Harry Potter movies with his kids. (18:09) Pumpsgiving: The Ultimate Feast thanks to Butcher Box. (19:14) FDA Approves Cannabis For Brain Cancer Treatment. (20:58) Cannabis use is associated with reduced prevalence of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease: A cross-sectional study. (24:16) The stigma of cannabis and the War on Drugs. (28:17) The Starbucks Generation: The change in climate how kids how consume caffeine. (35:19) New trend alert! Nose Warmers. (40:12) #Quah question #1 – How to conquer binge eating? Any advice? (42:17) #Quah question #2 – What are the biggest mental hurdles you have had to overcome in your life? (55:50) #Quah question #3 – If you had all the time in the world and no other life restrictions, what would you like to immerse yourself in and learn more about? (1:08:56) #Quah question #4 – Is there such thing as a weed hangover? (1:18:46) People Mentioned: Julianna Marie Photography (@photosbyjmp)  Instagram Tom Bilyeu (@tombilyeu)  Instagram Links/Products Mentioned: Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Butcher Box **FREE Bacon, 2 Ribeye’s, $10 off + Free Shipping on Your First Order!** The Good Dad Project - When a Father Commits Suicide DEA Schedules Insys Therapeutics’ Syndros (Dronabinol Oral Solution) As Schedule II Drug Big Pharma's anti-marijuana stance aims to squash the competition, activists say Cannabis use is associated with reduced prevalence of non-alcoholic fatty liver disease: A cross-sectional study Marijuana Is Now Legal In Canada -- Here's Why The U.S. Will Not Be Far Behind Ned **15% off first purchase** Eaze **Use code MINDPUMP for $20 off + FREE delivery with your first order (Available only in CA)** Nose warmers are now a thing, and we totally want one The Mask of Masculinity: How Men Can Embrace Vulnerability, Create Strong Relationships and Live Their Fullest Lives – Book by Lewis Howes

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Yeah, she's a little bit nervous. We're narrowing it down. And we are talking about how we're using our sponsored products, like, organifies pumpkin spice gold juice or is Adam likes to call it pumpkin. Pumpkin. Pumpkin spice gold juice or is Adam likes to call it pumpkin pumpkin pumpkin spice gold juice Reason that and the green juice to get ourselves well faster of course we are sponsored by organify if you go to Organify.com forward slash mind pump and enter the code mind pump. You'll get 20% off Adam talks about his mom's wedding this weekend sounds like a great time. Oh, yeah, took more pictures with babies
Starting point is 00:01:08 Little foreshadowing hashtag daddy Adam. Then we talked about butcher boxes. Thanks giving feasts. Oh, I'm excited for this This is actually kind of crazy. You can order pretty much most of your things giving dinner Through butcher box the turkey. They also have options with sausage and lamb meat and all kinds of awesome stuff. Great price. You need to order it soon. Last year they sold out very, very quickly. If you go to butcherbox.com forward slash mine pump and you sign up, here's what you get. Free bacon, two rib eyes, ten dollars off and free shipping on your first order. Pretty good stuff. Oh, man. Absolutely. Then we talked about a new cannabis-based cancer drug.
Starting point is 00:01:49 We talked about cannabis in alcohol. We did mention our other sponsor, Ned. They do produce hemp extracts. These are full spectrum cannabinoid-based hemp extracts. This is fully legal from hemp. If you go to Hello Ned, H-E-L-L-O, anyd.com-forge-mind-pump, you'll get 15% off your first purchase. Then we talked about the legalization of weed in Canada,
Starting point is 00:02:13 and the decriminalization of drugs, the coffee culture, and Justin wanted to tell us about a new trend that he saw. Yeah, he's gonna do. I'm trying to throw that in there. Noes warmers. Yep, you heard right, noes warmers. You gotta Google it. We are he's gonna do. I'm trying to throw that in there. No swimmers. Yep, you heard right, no swimmers. Yeah, you gotta Google it. We are not sponsored by them.
Starting point is 00:02:28 No. Then we got into the questions. The first question was, this individual's asking about binge eating. How do you beat binge eating? Like what is going on? Why do we go off and eat so much food that we can't breathe anymore and then feel really bad about ourselves?
Starting point is 00:02:42 What is happening? Of course, we're not medical experts, but we do give our advice based on our experience as personal trainers. The next question was, what is the biggest mental hurdle that we've all had to overcome in our lives? This one gets a little emotional, I think.
Starting point is 00:02:59 Yeah. So sad. And the next question, if we had all the time in the world and no life restrictions, what would we want to immerse ourselves and learn more about? And finally, last question, is there such a thing as a weed hangover?
Starting point is 00:03:16 In other words, can you consume too much marijuana or is just the like to say, marriagewanna? Married, juwanna. Can you have too much and then have a hangover the next day? We know the answer to that. We do know the answer to that. Very well. We're in luck.
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Starting point is 00:04:09 Oh, my favorite time! Here it is. All right, we've got a bunch of reviews on both iTunes and on Facebook. Starting out with iTunes, we have two winners. We have Track, or Track, and the Bogey Monster. Both of you are winners there. It's scary. And on Facebook, we have Adam Witt,
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Starting point is 00:04:47 and you can also leave it on iTunes. Get yourself a free shirt. Oh, yo, chances. Hey, if you're listening right now, and you're wondering why we all sound super sexy. Yeah, we all cut the same cold. I know. That's why. You know, it reminds me of a...
Starting point is 00:05:02 This may be the first time we've all podcasted, sick together. I think so I guess I want to get slippers on watch cartoons. I only get so cozy. Do you know? Watch some doctor Phil. I've got a I've got a move I just thought of something for a move for no for the boys out to that listen to this So my mom used to do something for me when I was when I was a young kid It's one of the one of my favorite memories of my mom is when I would get sick and it was like this traditional thing
Starting point is 00:05:26 You get sick as a kid you stay home from school Which every kid gets excited for that and it means I'm watching cartoons all day and she would come home whenever I was sick And you know she'd come home with a A bottle of seven up and coloring books and that was like a traditional thing that I did I carried that on as a teenage boy That was like the thing that I did for my girlfriends. And they just- Give them coloring books?
Starting point is 00:05:47 And a seven-up. Oh, I'm always really relieved. Yeah, well this is like the kid. You know what I'm saying? But it was like, oh, it was the move when I was a young kid. So I'm trying to shed some light on that. Talk about brilliant marketing. I'll call that me to go through a calling book now.
Starting point is 00:06:01 Right now? No, I would totally do that. I would totally dig that. You guys do it. I would totally dig that. Do you guys, especially when you're sick? My tongue's sticking out. So when you're sick and you're laid up and after you've watched, you got cut up on all your favorite seasons
Starting point is 00:06:13 and you've watched two or three movies, like you're over, I get over television really quick unless it's just like, I got lucky and got sick right when I was right in the middle of watching like an auspice. But what has that ever happened? There are people that do that.
Starting point is 00:06:24 It's like a meditative thing right you're just hyper focused on coloring They have like really advanced versions of like coloring books now like now that I think about it Do you do you have kids Justin? So are you are you coloring at the restaurants when they give you guys credit? Yeah, 100% are you really in drawing and everything but they always like they always like throw things out They they want me to draw something for them So there's this one restaurant we go to all the time, this Mexican restaurant, and they have the white paper and the crancy right on the table,
Starting point is 00:06:53 and so I'm always drawing things for them and stuff, dude. Is it like tanks shooting? Yeah. Usually tanks shooting, you know, like Mario Brothers or like video game characters and like people's heads exploding That's so things like I just I try to carry this tradition on I was just thinking what brilliant marketing on seven ups part Like when the fuck did that become a thing you did? It's true when I was a kid too me too
Starting point is 00:07:17 It's either ginger ale or or seven up when you're not feeling good brilliant like a Salteen crackers. Yeah, yeah,, imagine how smart like the marketing team, they're in there like, all right, well, how are we going to sell more? I know let's pretend like this helps you when you're sick, but it's a bunch of sugar. It's nobody cares. Yeah, just give them the fizziness and they'll feel better about it. It's true. It's brilliant. I know it is. That is. And we carried it on. We carried it on in our family for many, many years. So now ginger
Starting point is 00:07:41 ale actually may have some some properties because of the ginger ginger. Yeah, because ginger's anti nausea and anti inflammatory. Ginger's in the same family, family, excuse me, as a turmeric and they have those anti inflammatory effects. So I jumped on the the organified cold buster that Justin had talked about. So I posted on my answer story. What'd you do? Just the green juice, the turmeric, and then I have the, the edelberry? Elderberry.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Elderberry. I always said, you know what it is? It's edelman. That's why for the Patriots. Oh yeah. Obviously. I know what that is.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like you feel a little bit of a difference that way. No, temporary. So what I will say about how I am sick today, but and it came on hard yesterday. But I started to feel it the night before,
Starting point is 00:08:34 like I felt that my throat started to close up and it was itchy. And so I jumped on that right away. And I actually, I mean, today I don't feel that bad considering we're all sick. And that it's a fast and hard cold. I feel like I fought it off pretty well. Considering I saw Katrina, she was sick last week and she was knocked down for a couple of days.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Yeah, I'm definitely functional. Maybe she's a patient zero. Is she the first one that got everybody sick? She might be, thanks Katrina. Oh man, I knew, because it's not, nobody in my family sick and I'm like, where did I get this from? That was Katrina. You know what's weird though?
Starting point is 00:09:06 Like seriously, we've all been working together now almost four years. Doug doesn't get sick at all. Solid as a rock. It's like, what's that movie with what the hell's his name? Unbrained. Bruce Willis. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:20 You know what I mean? What if he's actually a mutable? What if he's got mutant superpowers? We just don't know. He might. Someone punch him. Let's get him a poncho if he feels it.'s a Mutable, what if he's got mutant superpowers? We just don't know he might someone punch him So let's get him a poncho if he feels it if I had to pick someone shit to eat it would be his for sure Yeah, yeah, you know what the people back to that the people listening who have no idea we refer to it All just throw that in there like it's common knowledge That's like a hundred episodes ago
Starting point is 00:09:44 People are tuning in. I want someone that you just episode of MindProt. I'm throwing out this challenge shout out to Julie, because she's probably the best with some of this stuff and she's always on the forum. I would love for someone to put together like a 10 question trivia like that. You would have to be an OG.
Starting point is 00:10:00 That would be cool. To pick up like, yeah, like some like hidden. Like super subtle. Yeah, things that we've said Maybe once or twice and 800 episodes or 900 over the hell we're at right now We'll do like a how well do you know mind pump quiz? Yeah, yeah, so maybe maybe somebody on the forum could Formulate it and we could do something with it I think maybe we'll post in our story and then whoever gets it right gets like a free program or something like that do something cool
Starting point is 00:10:21 Yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah, but you know you know turmeric, the gold juice, organic, if I gold juice is packed with turmeric. Yeah. So you could just have that with the green. You can mix the two together. Did they get the pumpkin spice yet? They did. They did. So it's up and live on the website, but we haven't received it yet.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I can't wait to try that. Yeah, well, the regular gold tastes like amazing. I know. So I'm pumpkin spice. Everything is pumpkin spice right now. It's pumpkin. Pumpkin is with an Emma Who who pumpkin? I like pumpkin I said pumpkin bro. You're pumpkin. You're recorded. No get out of here. We mind your podcast right now
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yeah, we're so sad like little feature like I think I fucked up so many words that you guys are like waiting Yeah, waiting for was like wait. Wait. Wait. What did you say right there? Yeah, so that one more time Let's fix that. Yeah, we'll get you roll the arm That's not how you get the fuck out of here with that. That was pumpkin. I know it was at the St. Faster add up catching you I didn't know I didn't know Edelberry. Elderberry Because of Edelman. Yeah, did you guys have a good weekends or what or just laid up because you're you had a wedding You're in a wedding. Yeah, I was just laid up because you had a wedding. You were in a wedding. I was. I was.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Yeah, so my mom had a, my mom got married. Congratulations, mom. And then my mom doesn't listen to podcasts. But her husband does. What's her new last name? Huh? Quick. Oh, he must be cool then.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah. Tammy Quick now. So it was Lonnie. Congratulations, quick. Yeah. So Lonnie, her new husband, shout out to him. Great guy. Really, really like him. We met him, didn't we? Yes, yes, he's shout out to him. Great guy, really, really like him.
Starting point is 00:11:45 We met him, didn't we come here to meet him? Yes, he's been up here before. Really nice guy. Really, really good dude. They make a great match. He, they actually had it at his house, at their house, on the Delta. So they live right on the water.
Starting point is 00:11:58 And there's like this, I don't know what you call it, fucking, almost like a dam, between their house and the water. So in case it fills up it doesn't flood right so and he has a boat dock that he redid for the wedding And he did and it just absolutely beautiful. I'll show you guys pictures of it. It's really nice But he built the whole thing himself some like that's like $25,000 $30,000 to do it and he did it all himself and he was doing it Leading up to the wedding. Poor guy gets bronchitis on like a month ago and the deadline. He just wanted to add a shit ton more stress. Oh, dude, already stressful.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Right. So I felt so sorry for him because he literally finished like the weekend before the wedding. I mean, let's do you walk down the you could smell the stained woods still. Oh, well. I mean, it's literally just finished in time. I was like 20 bags under his eyes? Oh, poor guy, man. So he, they,
Starting point is 00:12:48 How many people were there? It's a wedding. I would say about 60 or 70. Oh, nice intimate. Yeah, it was intimate, mostly family, really, really good. I mean, his family meshes with our family really well. And you know, there was a time at the end of the night that was really nice for me.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Like, I don't get to see, my sister lives up in Seattle. She has a new born, she has another one on the way, and she has a million of the one that I took a picture of that I think you saw. That's the third picture you've posted holding a baby. Lately. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:13:16 I actually run a streak, dude. It's happening just, dude. Oh yeah. These are just 24-O-E's options, bro. I'm just driving, I'm just test driving. Just like you're your marriage theory. Yeah, exactly. I'm just test driving them. Just like you're your marriage theory. Yeah, exactly. I'm just just test driving them all out.
Starting point is 00:13:27 See if I want a little Pudgy one. Do I want like a one that drools? Do I want one that's loud? Do I want one that's quiet? So I'm just I'm trying to test drive them. I love whatever you get. Whatever you get, you're gonna love. I love seeing those pictures though.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Yeah. Well, it's funny because you get people who, you know, maybe don't know me as a kid or saw new, like my story being raised and they see me around kids and I'm getting lots of DMs like that and they're just like, oh, you just, you look like a naturalist now. I said, I'm not a natural.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I've been fucking trained my whole life. My mom had me raising my younger siblings very early on. So when it comes to changing diapers and burping babies and how to hold them. And that's the, I mean, I've been doing that since I was 10 years old. So like, see me now when people see it, they're like, oh, wow, look at that. You know how to do all that. Now, now when you're holding kids and you're playing with them, it's Katrina just like melting. She's just like, oh my God. She's the same the same way too. I mean, we both love kids.
Starting point is 00:14:27 But seeing you do it, because there's like a special thing that happens when a man is good with kids. I think that women just like... Well, she's actually the one that made that comment that I'm saying right now. She referred to that because people say to her like, oh my God, you see Adam with the kids? Like, he's so good with the kids and so,
Starting point is 00:14:42 and she knows my story. So she's like, there's no doubt in my mind the father that he would be because I've seen him with kids before and I know his story the way he is. So I don't know, you have to ask her that. I don't feel, she doesn't come up to me, and doesn't act like that.
Starting point is 00:14:58 If she does inside, she doesn't share it, which is probably a smart move on hers. I think she got all mushy about it. I love, I love little kids Especially when especially at weddings as they dress them up So get like the little babies in like little tuxedos. Yeah girls run around. That's great. Oh, I can't help it I gotta just squeeze the shit. I don't know I just can't help it
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah, no, I love a kid especially when they're good man So if they're that's what it was neat about this old 24 hour lease option I've been doing is like hanging on to them as long as they're good as soon as they shit ahead of back to their parents. Before the meltdown. Yeah. This is going to blow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:31 There you go. Back to you. But it was good. No, my mom, my mom looked beautiful. She looked happy. We got what I was getting alluding to was, you know, there was a time at the end of the night where we were sitting around a little bonfire and all of my siblings, including my mom and now Lonnie and her husband, were all sitting around the fire.
Starting point is 00:15:49 And I can't remember the last time that every one of my brothers and sisters and their kids and my mom and everybody was actually sitting around together and kind of conversing. So it was really cool. It was neat to get caught up with all of them and see the whole family together. We just don't, my family doesn't do that very often. So when they do, I'm at the age now, you know, I think when you're in your 20s, like maybe you just don't give a shit, you're too selfish. Like, I know I'm a selfish person still in my late 30s, but I think I just have a different perspective now. So I appreciate those moments like that that I get with all of them.
Starting point is 00:16:25 So I had a really good time. Family special. It's those are the people that have been through everything with you, or you know, been with you since you were young. And so there's this interesting special bond with family, even when they're difficult bonds because you guys went through,
Starting point is 00:16:39 when they're dysfunctional, is that you? Well, I mean, seriously, you know, you've been through all that shit together. Stress and trauma and everything. Or whatever, yeah. Well, that's definitely, I just, well, I mean, seriously, you know, you've been through all that shit together. Stress and trauma or whatever. Yeah. Well, that's definitely, I mean, one of the things I talk about too, I think we just did in an interview recently where we got into my childhood and one of the things I love and appreciate because of it is my sister and I are, Cassie and I are really, really tight.
Starting point is 00:17:01 I mean, we're really, really tight because of all that, because we're one year apart and we did go through all that together. So it really forged a bond with us and it doesn't matter how far away she is. I mean, I talked to my sister. I mean, she's a worse for the company, right? So obviously we hear from her more than we probably would have if it wasn't for that,
Starting point is 00:17:20 but even without that, I was probably talking to her two, three times a week and she lives out of state. So for me to be able to communicate with one of my siblings. Yeah, my cousin came to visit this weekend. It was great from Seattle. This is one of those things too. We realized like we're just so far apart, like distance wise, but also just from the family.
Starting point is 00:17:37 There's just like whole removed part of the family. We're trying to mend and so it was just a good, we're just trying to hash it out and try and get everybody kind of together. And yeah, do you just realize in that family, it's like you're blood and let's see where we can work to sound and like hang out more. And so I just started to, she stayed with me for like two days and my grandma just moved down from up north and so she's close by.
Starting point is 00:18:01 So we got to spend time with my grandma and her and the kids and everybody so it was yeah That was important stuff awesome. Yeah, I didn't do much this weekend just because I got hit by that cold But I did watch a bunch of Harry Potter movies with my kids, you know, those are really good movies you guys didn't watch them all Have you ever seen them? No, I watched the first one and I never watched the other ones. Oh really? Yeah, I'm watching them now I love it. Yeah, we're going through them like one by one because my oldest is reading them. So once you finish the book, we'll watch the movie. Dude, I had no idea there was a fucking million of them.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I saw many of them and to watch the, I'm fascinated because I... You're JK Rowling, too. Well, I'm just watching the actors grow up as you watch each movie, you know, because he was a little, the main actor. There were all little tiny kids and now they're all these, you know, big adults,
Starting point is 00:18:45 and going through what kids go through as they get older. Scratchy voice, and yeah. Yeah, it's really cool. It's crazy. Imagine if that was your acting career, you know what I mean? Where you get seven movies automatically, and you just grow up with them. I must have been, they must have built a bond with each other.
Starting point is 00:19:01 Oh, I like the year and the. I guarantee it, yeah. I mean, it's like a lot of those old sitcoms, like back in the day, you know, you see like these, like the families growing. Literally are families. Yeah, they grew up together and they got on set and everything.
Starting point is 00:19:12 It's kind of a trip. Speaking of all this family talk, like I'm really excited what we're gonna do here with our mind pump family. I'm excited to do this. Pump's giving? Yeah, well, yeah, we're gonna do, we're gonna do a little, a little friends, family, business,
Starting point is 00:19:26 type of Thanksgiving all of us, and butcher box is gonna put it on for us, which is cool because they're doing this thing this year where they have the turkey olec heart, the family feast or the ultimate feast, which so they're now providing. Bro, look at the, look at the prices. Look at the prices.
Starting point is 00:19:41 They have a turkey that you can get. Well, first of all, it's all, you know, of course, no hormones all, it's all, you know, of course, no hormones, no antibiotics, really, really high quality food, but check this out with their ultimate feast. This is what you get. You get a 16 plus pound large turkey,
Starting point is 00:19:55 three and a half pounds of beef tenderloin, five plus pounds of, what is that? Lamb. Lamb leg, a pound of breakfast sausage, two pounds of Italian sausage, bacon, 10 ounces of bacon, and then you get a hand, a barbecue kitchen handbook and a Thanksgiving ebook, right? Under 200 bucks.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Holy Schmorgasborg. Under 200 bucks for all of the stuff. So they did the... So they did this last year and it sold out fast. So we're letting people know ahead of time that if this is something that you guys we're going to be doing that We're doing the ultimate feast. I'm really excited for that But if you guys are interested in getting a turkey from them or one of these feast Is it is the link will be in the show notes, right Doug? Yeah, that's correct
Starting point is 00:20:38 Okay, so you mentioned in the intro too. You're right. You guys can grab it But I'm all pumped about doing this and I think it's. And they have to it's a price range from $79 all the way to $200. Yeah, the one I said was 200, but you can just get a rig just the turkey of 16 plus pound turkey for $99. So it's not bad, not bad at all. Dude, I want to tell you guys some cannabis news. There's another farm. So the you're starting to see now pharmaceutical companies enter into
Starting point is 00:21:06 the market with cannabis, but from a medicinal standpoint, right? I've talked about GW pharmaceutical, which is one of the leaders, but there's another company called INSIS, I believe, INSYS. And they just got orphan drugs. Not ISIS. No, not ISIS. You don't want those guys. They entered, they got what's called orphan drug status.
Starting point is 00:21:28 It's this like fast track from the FDA. So what the FDA does is, you know, years ago, or the way it used to work for a long time, if you wanted a drug to get passed through the FDA, it's still like this. It's just this long lengthy expensive process. It could take as long as 10 years before you get something from conception to approval and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars of research and trials and all stuff, which on the one hand people say that's
Starting point is 00:21:55 good because they're protecting the consumer, but on the other hand, many times there's areas of the market where there's people with no options whatsoever. They're literally dying and they can't have a drug because it hasn't been approved. And so what the FDA did a long a while ago is they created this kind of fast track where if there's a drug that shows promise for a condition that there are no other treatments for, then they'll speed that shit up and make a lot cheaper because, you know, like, for example, GW pharmaceutical had orphan drug status for their epilepsy drug, that was a CBD based epilepsy drug
Starting point is 00:22:28 because the type of epilepsy that it treated, there were no treatments for, and it was just a terrible form of epilepsy. Like kids would get 30, 40, 50, 100 seizures a day, no medications, so FDA's like fine, we'll fast track this because you know, these kids need it and there's nothing else. Well, you know, brain tumors are in, there's forms of brain cancer
Starting point is 00:22:48 that are also like this where it's basically death sentence, right? You go, you get diagnosed with this and there's nothing they can do. Well, they have had some trials to show that they have some cannabinoid-based medicines and we've known this now for a while with animal studies that cannabis or cannabinoids
Starting point is 00:23:04 have this interesting effect on cancer cells, they kill them, they kill cancer cells, in many cases, and in many cases, they prevent metastases where the cancer spread. And so, in CISCOT, orphan drug status, for a to start trials on a cannabis-based cancer drug for a certain type of brain cancer. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:23:25 This is insane because up until now, really, your options with cancer are chemotherapy or radiation, both of which are just like a nuclear bomb you're sitting off your body. Yeah, they're just terrible treatments in and of themselves. We've got a lot of, we've got advanced quite a bit, especially with radiation where we can target it But still you know, they're not great. Yeah with cannabinoids are super safe like very very safe You could give someone a shit ton of cannabinoids and you're not gonna get you might get some side effects But you're not gonna get any permanent as long as we know you know bad effects or whatever
Starting point is 00:23:58 So it's pretty crazy. Yeah, that we're starting to see and I've been saying this for the past three years on the podcast that that we're starting to see. And I've been saying this for the past three years on the podcast that, can abinoid-based medicines, I think are gonna present a completely new class of drugs. This is a new molecule. And we're gonna start seeing more and more stuff out. So on that same topic,
Starting point is 00:24:16 there's more evidence that comes out. So a new study just got released or whatever, at least they're talking about, that shows that cannabis has a protective effect on the liver when it comes to drinking alcohol. It's interesting. Yeah, so what they're finding is, because of course alcohol is, you know,
Starting point is 00:24:36 very bad for the liver, especially if you drink a lot of it, like people who drink a lot of alcohol, the risk of liver disease is quite high. So are we gonna start adding to our, we do our charcoal, we do our probiotic, and now we're gonna do our two drops of, two drops of the Hello Ned right before we do drinking. Well, what they found was a reduction in,
Starting point is 00:24:57 all types of liver disease from people who drank a lot when the people also used lots of cannabis. So fucking, hey, is that rad? That we're finding that, of course, you probably shouldn't drink alcohol. Yeah, let's smoke. Yeah, I don't, it's not 100% protective, but I think it's fascinating
Starting point is 00:25:17 that they're showing this kind of stuff, because it's interesting because cannabis, so for years, the government has tried to link cannabis smoking with lung cancer and they've never been able to show a connection because of the anti-cancer effects, of course. And then they did studies where they found that people who smoke cigarettes and smoke cannabis, lower rates of lung cancer than people who just smoke cigarettes. So cannabis is one of those substances that, like use it with other, I guess if you use it with other substances, may protect, you know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, that you go mix a bunch of substances.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But if you're addicted to drugs, make sure marijuana is in there. But anyway, be responsible. But pretty interesting though, right? No, it's really interesting. Yeah, so. And is it, I'm assuming that it's, it's some sort of CBD base, right? I mean, is that what it is? What, what instance is, is studying is yeah, CBD based, you know, medicine. So I'm going to probably buy some shares of CBD base, right? I mean, is that what it is? What insists is studying is yeah, CBD based medicine.
Starting point is 00:26:07 So I'm gonna probably buy some shares of theirs. I haven't, I don't yet, so that's just full disclosure. I may have some, you know, special interest with them, but I'm looking at the price of their shares. It's nothing for $8 a share. Might be a good gamble. Where did you come across this? Well, I follow pages that will share like new cannabis news. So back when
Starting point is 00:26:27 my my ex-mother-law, you know, she got diagnosed with cancer and she and she used cannabis as part of her treatment, I went on all these pages and started following them all just to follow the latest research. And so anytime new research comes out, because this was, I saw an article on this on the 8th of October, so recently, whenever there's new news that comes out with cannabinoid research, I typically will find out through one of these pages. So I think this is pretty fucking fat. What I think is going to happen, excuse me, is I think what's going to happen with this research is they're going to realize that the the
Starting point is 00:27:05 entourage effect of cannabinoids is quite viable. The entourage effect is the theory that you know you can single out cannabinoids by themselves but they tend to work better in the presence of other cannabinoids. Now the reason why pharma doesn't like that is pharmaceuticals drugs like to be very specific, like deliver a specific type of thing. And they'd be competing with the plant, which is probably going to be legalized in the next 10 years, and the plant automatically has the entourage effect. So you can imagine these pharma companies, that's going to be an interesting space to be
Starting point is 00:27:42 in, because they'll make a medication that's just CBD or maybe just two cannabinoids. And then you got people over here like I'm not gonna get the prescription. I'll just get this, the plant that has all of it. And that has more of like a holistic sort of approach. It just seems, the entourage effect is not additive. It's like it multiplies the effects. At least that's what it seems to be.
Starting point is 00:28:00 So it's like, it's not like you add two things and you combine their effects. It's like they work better because there's more than one cannabinoid present, and especially with things like cancer. So we see what we'll see what that's going to look like. I think it'll be an interesting. We announced on the podcast the news that candidate released that they're full on. Oh, yeah, they went legal this month. Yeah, just a percent. Yeah. Did you see that their stores sold out and like, like a day or something like that? No. Yeah, just a percent. Yeah. Did you see that their stores sold out and like a day or something like that?
Starting point is 00:28:26 No. Oh yeah. Yeah, people went crazy. Apparently there's some demand there. Oh, I forgot what the numbers were, but I saw the numbers on a couple of their dispensaries and it was just astronomical. Yeah. Like they just sold a shit ton of wheat.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Wow. Yeah, in a short period of time. It's so great to just watch it all happen. You know, like I would have never seen all this happen. Like, I was her growing up because of the stigmas and everything else. You know, attached to it. I'm really curious to see the other things
Starting point is 00:28:51 that we're gonna see, like, when it becomes, as it's getting there too, right, it's becoming almost as normal as seeing someone drinking a beer. Like, it's not there at all. And definitely in other parts of the country, I'm sure it's not nowhere near there. But we're within five to 10 years of it being like that nationwide, I believe, and when it is, it's going to be interesting
Starting point is 00:29:09 to see if we see things like, you know, if we see crime go down, if we see like violence go down, if we see do you eyes go down, if we sort of to see like this, because I just believe that if there's an alternative for people to party with or do on these Friday nights or Saturday nights to let loose, I can just, a party full of young people drunk as fuck versus a party full of people stoned, I just see. I'm gonna go to the stone side. It just feel like cooler.
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's less likely to have a... A abrasive drama or issues going on with that, because I can't remember the last time that I've been at a Party where there was a bunch of people high and it turned into an altercation It'd be interesting Yeah, it'll be interesting to see because the other the other argument for that is that people won't use less of the other stuff They'll just use every sense like a combination of everything which is not it, you know, so it'll be interesting That's why I'm saying I'm curious to see if it will like I don't know what it's like to be a
Starting point is 00:30:06 16 year old boy right now. Right. Because they're always wanting to rebel and do things like counter to the culture and whatever's going on. And so that, that's only worries me a little bit with like, you know, maybe math or some of these other like crazy ass drugs out there that still exists.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Well, I think the, they'll shrink the black market. But if they regulate it too much, the black market will still exist. If they make it so expensive with taxes and so. Well, that's why black, they'll shrink the black market, but if they regulate it too much, the black market will still exist. If they make it so expensive with taxes and so... Well, that's why it's still here. I mean, the black market is still full in full swing. I mean, I know a lot of people still in the space, and a lot of them are still in that gray, gray, to black market area, because they've driven the taxes up so high and they make it so regulated, it makes it so it's like, well, you know, even myself, it's hard for me to justify.
Starting point is 00:30:50 I mean, now that we did something with ease, I mean, that's really the only reason why I'm using dispensaries again is because I've got someone delivers it to my house within 20 minutes. It's awesome. And all I do is push my phone and it gets automatically billed, isn't that? But to be honest, the quality of this stuff is I can still find better stuff in the black market that I know a farmer who grows primo, primo stuff and they would rather get rid of it somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yeah, because they make more money off of it and it's easier than some of the regulations they have to go through with the club. That's why I think it needs to go full legal. There's two levels to it. One level is decriminalization. The next level is full legalization. The full legalization argument, I can actually see the argument against it because full legalization then has the full strength
Starting point is 00:31:46 of the American market behind it. I mean, it can go full legalization, but like age restricted, right? Yeah, that's still regulated, but still, my point is when you go full legal, you now have the power of the American capitalism behind it, will that then promote the use of all these substances? So I've heard that argument.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Now for sure, my opinion, for sure, I think it's absolutely ridiculous and an assault on humanity to, for anything to be illegal where you're not hurting someone out. You're just hurting yourself. Now if you hurt someone else, whether you're using drugs or not, for sure you should be punished or if you steal or, you know, damage someone's property. But if you're just hurting yourself, I think it's an extremely insane proposition
Starting point is 00:32:33 that we've all just accepted as normal that, hey, you over there hurting yourself. We're gonna throw you in jail, or we're gonna throw, you know, these dogs are gonna come search you, or we're gonna come in your house and break in and whatever. That's insane to me. It makes no fucking sense.
Starting point is 00:32:45 So I think decriminalization for sure, and then if we wanna treat it like a mental health issue, or just a health issue, okay, I could get behind that, but to treat it like a crime to hurt just yourself, very strange to me, and also I think has been done a shit ton of damage. And it's also, here's the other thing too. It gives the police a lot of power,
Starting point is 00:33:05 a lot of discretionary power. So when there's a lot of criticism behind the cops, being when they're profiling people or searching people, it's the drug war that gives them that power. Because then they can be like, I think he's carrying drugs. Let's go check them out. If you eliminate that, then it kind of changes it a little bit. So that's my whole, Portugal decriminalized all drugs over 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:33:30 They drew all drugs, everything. How's it going there still? A profound success. Now, Portugal is a much smaller country. They don't have the same market, you know, or whatever is we do, but it's the best example we have of what can happen with that. And so what they've done is they've taken all drugs, decriminalized small possession.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So it's still it's crime to deal, like a big amount. So they're targeting more dealers, but not the actual use. Yeah, so basically what they're trying to do is find a smarter way to control, you know, I guess the market for it. So it's decriminalized on a small scale, still criminalized on a big scale. And what they're doing is they treat it like a mental, like a health issue. So, if you get caught with the drugs, you get a fine, or, and then if you get caught again, I think you have to go
Starting point is 00:34:14 and seek treatment. Now, so far, it's, they've lower rates of disease, there's lower rates of addiction. The black market has shrunk over there as a result. So I think it's, I think so far, they've all found it to be a success and it's still popular over there. Nobody's voting it wants it to go back the way it used to be. And so I think that's the way that
Starting point is 00:34:36 modern nations are gonna go to be quite honest. I think that's the direction it's gonna go. The people against it or opposed it, the most are law enforcement because the prison complex, they don't like that because if you take that away, like they're gonna lose a lot of their funding because not so many people are gonna go to jail.
Starting point is 00:34:55 You have big pharma, big tobacco and big alcohol. Alcohol and tobacco really enjoy their monopoly on the legal drug market. Think about it that way. What the war on drugs has essentially done is protected alcohol and tobacco to be the only legal drugs you can use in America. So they like that, they like that protection.
Starting point is 00:35:17 And caffeine, you could argue. Caffeine is a good idea. It's funny you bring up caffeine because more people are hospitalized from caffeine than almost anything else. So people drink too much go to the hospital because they can't you know heart. I mean, I think we're part of the generation Where this is crazy exploded. I mean where the Starbucks generation. Yeah, I mean before that it wasn't as it's it's so crazy What the norm is now with with the amount of coffee that you intake? I mean that just 20 years ago. It wasn't like that
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah, it's true I know I see 20 years ago was like a random coffee shop that you go or I mean, that just 20 years ago, it wasn't like that. Yeah, that's true. I see. 20 years ago was like a random coffee shop that you go or like a donut place. He instead of drinking coffee. Nobody was putting anything in it. It was just like black coffee. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:35:52 That's a good point. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I swear, I remember one guy, like he was all, you know, into the smith and he's all emo. The smith fucking thing. I got into drinking coffee when I was in high school. I was a junior in high school, and the reason why I did was solely out of like necessity. I was getting up before school at four o'clock in the morning to go work the dairy.
Starting point is 00:36:22 So, and I was told,, I remember someone telling me, have you tried some coffee? I remember going to work and fall asleep on the wheel because I was so tired. How early on. When I found it, it was like lightning in a bottle. I was like, whoa, yeah, I can actually work in the mornings now.
Starting point is 00:36:39 But even then, when I was drinking it, I drank it before I went to work at 4 a.m. But I didn't drink throughout the day it before I went to work at 4am, but I didn't drink throughout the day. I didn't have it at school. It wasn't cool. It wasn't that. It was purely performance.
Starting point is 00:36:52 Yes. I wasn't drinking it because I enjoyed it. We're now, I'd be interesting to see a high school campus. My first experience with caffeine wasn't even really coffee. I think I might have tried coffee as a kid, but it was like an energy drink because I was into working out at the age of 14. But even then, we didn't have red bull. We didn't have these energy drinks that you could buy,
Starting point is 00:37:12 or at least they weren't mass market. Yeah, it became a huge market. That became huge. We didn't have coffee, kids, and drink coffee. If you had caffeine as a kid, it was from Coke. Coca-Cola is what has a little bit of caffeine, but it was not a jolt. There was a jolt, cola, remember that.
Starting point is 00:37:24 There you go. But you know who drank jolt? Jolt was like crazy kids. It was, no of caffeine. But there's a little amount. There's a jolt cola, remember that? There you go. But you know who drank jolt? Jolt was like crazy kids. It was, no, not even, it was a dolt. So it was like a, you know, adults who wanted to stay up and drink a soda, you know. It wasn't, I don't remember too many kids. I think I bought a jolt cola once because me and my buddy
Starting point is 00:37:36 were like, oh shit, let's try this out. Yeah, yeah, it was all taboo. Yeah, I got jolt cola. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But again, no caffeine now is, or coffee, I should say. That's widely consumed by kids. When I go to a Starbucks now, there's at least two or three kids in there
Starting point is 00:37:49 in line getting a big ass coffee. Frappuccino thing with whipped cream all over it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And having all that, you know, and then they're probably on Adderall too on the top of it. That's, you see, neither one of those things that like really existed when I was in high school.
Starting point is 00:38:02 I don't remember, I didn't even know what Adderall was at that point, and I didn't even know what Adderall was at that point and I didn't see any kids drinking coffee. It's cool. What a shift in changing climate in Adderall. I had actually talked to my son about Adderall this weekend. We're sitting around and we're having conversation. We took him to lunch because my daughter was with her cousin
Starting point is 00:38:19 so I had some good time just with my boy. And he was asking questions about popular drugs, which I encourage my kids to be as open as they possibly can, not to be afraid to ask me anything. And so far it's working. So my 13 year olds are asking me about drugs. And I told them, I said, the most widely abused drug you're probably going to run into,
Starting point is 00:38:37 as you get into high school and college, are going to be methamphetamines. And they're going to be prescription. They're not going to be black markets. You're going to see a lot of kids using prescription drugs, like Adderall and Riddlein and I think the other ones by Vance is another one. And so I'm explaining to him the risks and benefits
Starting point is 00:38:54 and why people use them. And I think it's important to be super honest with your kid because otherwise they're gonna get their education from the fucking kids. Yeah, I know. I know. Take this man. I got all these I know. Yeah. Take this man. I got all these good grades.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. And imagine this, imagine if you're a kid and you're in school and it's competitive and you're trying to do well and your buddies like, yeah, I don't, take this. I take this all the time. So you take it because it's like, oh, it's the big deal. And then you feel it. Yeah. And then you get your homework done in 20 minutes and now you're like, well, fuck, I'm gonna
Starting point is 00:39:21 use this. What have I been doing the whole time? I'm gonna use this all the time. Yeah. Who was sharing that story to us about the, you know, they're after high school and college of using it that whole entire time, how hard it is to come off because they've identified all their,
Starting point is 00:39:35 who they are as, or who they are with it, and they're how intelligent, and how their brain works. I've talked to several people about that. I don't remember, that was a three-talking. I've talked to several people about that where they got all the way through college and then you start to develop this kind of dependency and maybe it's a psychological one where you think you need it.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And then you get into the workforce and then you're like, what do I do now? You know what I mean? Especially if you're highly competitive, feel like medicine or, you know, let's say you're a medical school and then you graduate and you become a doctor, you know, do you think that you need to stay on this stuff all the time? Yeah, it's an epidemic, it's a bit of an epidemic.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I wish I would have thought to bring this up while we were talking about being sick and getting all over this shit, but there's this new trend that's coming out that I guess this lady in England or somewhere in Britain, like she created this little nose warmer. So, you know like earmuffs, like it's literally like a little earmuff for your nose.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I had Doug pull it up right away because I was just like, is this really like, it's a trend that like people are like wearing these little, almost looks like a beak. Oh, that is hilarious. It's like needed for them. You know who's gonna wear that? The people with big, big noses. I'm gonna hide that here.
Starting point is 00:40:47 I don't know, bro, but they still look bigger, dude. That doesn't look good at all. No, it's not a good look. And I mean, so what? So if you have a warmer nose, apparently that's supposed to get you, like you're not gonna catch a cold, it's easy. Like I don't know the thought process. Yeah, and what if you have a blow, you have to blow your nose as you can get all this
Starting point is 00:41:03 time? It looks like it's just a little, she could just put it up on our forehead. Yeah, you just take it off real quick like this. Yeah, you got to Google it. It looks pretty awesome. I feel like you would nose, nose warmers. Yeah, I feel like you would see a lot of these at like a like one of those like festivals, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Like I could see a bunch of hippies walking around. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'm saying some kind of burning man kind of thing. Yeah, this is a lot of hippies walking around the street. I'm saying some kind of burning man kind of thing. Yeah, it's like funny accessory. Cause it's knitting. Onsence, yeah. It's kind of knitted. Doesn't it look like crochet or whatever?
Starting point is 00:41:30 I don't know. I think on Etsy, they picked the cutest girl to put it on her and it's still not working, dude. No, it's not. It's not a good look. You know where I put that thing. A little cod piece. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:42:29 First off, I want to open up by saying none of us are experts in issues like this, both binge eating, you know, anorexia, bulimia, and anything like that. So what you're gonna hear is our experience. Because now that doesn't mean we don't have experience dealing with this, because if you trained Clients for longer than a few years. I guarantee you're gonna run into people with issues with food
Starting point is 00:42:52 That results in binge eating now. This is a classic Relationship with food issue and what ends up happening. It's funny. I actually wrote some notes on Not specifically on binge eating, but I can't remember why this popped in my head, I'm gonna read it. This is one of the issues that I have with IIFIM. Yeah. Is because, and you touch on this a lot, so on the podcast about just super highly palatable foods,
Starting point is 00:43:19 does it mean that if you have some packaged bar or something that fits in your macros, that it's super bad for you and it's considered a bad food? Like no. But what I know is, I know that those foods are the ones that are most likely to be addictive. And when we in the health industry or the fitness industry promote these cheat days and cheat meals and highly processed foods, I'm so not a fan of it not because I think that you can't have it every once in a while. I absolutely have something
Starting point is 00:43:51 that would fall into the IIFYM category occasionally, but I'm also fully aware of the power of that thing and the addictive properties that come with that. And that is the part that I've always, it took this big stance on that movement because I know it's not helping. I'm not helping as many people as people think it is. And maybe you're listening right now and you're like, oh, it did wonders for me and I have great balance.
Starting point is 00:44:16 That's awesome. That's great that it's worked for you. And I'm not telling someone like that that they can't follow an IIFYM type of protocol. But I'm talking to a majority of the people that I used to train. They, most people struggle with binge eating. And because they've had bad habits or things
Starting point is 00:44:35 that they had done their entire life, and I can relate to this because sugar is mine. Like as a kid, I ate it multiple times per day as a young adult. I had candy in my, I ate candy every single night. I had ice cream every single night for 20 years of my life. And now the back 15 years of my life, I've tried to avoid that as much as possible. And when I give myself little bits of it, man, I can feel it. I can feel my body wanting more. I can be just fine, not having none of it.
Starting point is 00:45:05 You have, I mean, Sal opened up the other day. So it's a fully transparent because this topic does, is, I'm very passionate about this conversation. And, you know, Jackie Martinez, one of our, you know, someone who works for us and has been incredible help with our show notes since we've started the podcast. She comes down here every once in a while and I get to spend time with her and she knows all of us really well and she knows that Mike and I candies is was like my thing. And so she brings this box of Mike and a big box of Mike and I candies that sat in our
Starting point is 00:45:37 studio for like five months and never I never opened it like I'm like and that for me is a big deal that I can have something accessible right next to me and not eat it. Because in the past, what I'd have to do to be successful is I can't have it in my house. If it's in my house, I will have a weak point at one point. I'll go eat it. I won't just have one.
Starting point is 00:45:55 I'll crush the whole thing. I'll binge on it. And so we had it in here and fucking Sal opened it. And I told him when he opened it, because he's like, you know what, I feel like one of these. And he literally opened it and he put like one or two in his mouth and that was all he wanted.
Starting point is 00:46:08 I said, you can't do that in front of me. Don't know, I don't want one. Because if I have one and sure as shit, we are sitting in here maybe, me and I didn't do it right then. It was like maybe four or five days later, Katrina, Doug and I are sitting in here late one night and we're meeting and I hadn't even all day
Starting point is 00:46:22 and I'm tired and that box is right to my left. and I grab it and I throw a couple in my mouth. That was it. And I start mindless eating while we're meeting and I crushed the whole you know 700 calories of my canyx or whatever it is in that box. I think it's five to 700 calories and that has been cheating. There's an example of mindless eating and it's so easy to do with these highly palatable foods, and it's even easier to do it if you're somebody who has already created
Starting point is 00:46:50 some sort of an addiction or poor relationship. They have her principal. And I know I have that. It's the whole relationship with food things. So over the last week, I was watching, I don't remember what it was, I was watching this TV show, and there was this woman talking about how, you know, she can't leave her husband, even though he's abusive. Like, he's abusive, he beats her, hits
Starting point is 00:47:11 her, does all these other things. And when they were talking to her about leaving him, she would say things like, but I love him. I'm in love with them. I can't leave them because I'm in love with them. And I thought to myself and I thought, you know, God, that sounds crazy from the outside, but really what it is is she places all the value of her relationship on one aspect of a relationship, which is the feeling that you get when you're attracted to someone. And so that's all the value.
Starting point is 00:47:34 She thinks in her mind because I love him so much and I'm so attracted to him, all that other stuff doesn't matter because that to her has no value. The value, the main value on her relationship is this feeling that she has for this other person. So when it comes to food, and I thought about this right away,
Starting point is 00:47:50 I'm like, this is like a bad food relationship where people place all their value on the taste of food, on the taste and the feeling it gives them. And that's it. There's no other value that they've established with their food. And so, of course, if that's all the value that have on food and you also know that that food is bad for you, what's gonna end up happening is you're gonna go through the cycle of not eating the food?
Starting point is 00:48:12 Oh, no, no, no, it's bad for me. But now because all the value that place on food is taste and you're not eating that super tasty food anymore, then you give in and you binge and go for it. And you don't. And so, the key is to, and this is a long process and this is the only success I've ever had and you binge and go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it.
Starting point is 00:48:28 And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And you go for it. And by the way, it's not ignoring the fact that that food is super tasty, and it's not ignoring that you enjoy the taste and flavor of that food. It's just giving you more information. So now when I sit down in front of, you know, let's say you sit down in front of the mic and Iks and you're looking at them and you know, like, they taste good, but you also have more information, like, yes, they taste good, but they also do this for me. They do that for me. I don't feel good afterwards.
Starting point is 00:49:01 No, that's such a great point because you've heard of acquired taste. That's all these certain things. You sort of grow accustomed to the more exposure you have to them. It's an acquired taste. You have to really build your palate up to a really crave certain types of foods that maybe initially it might not have like this this amazing sort of euphoric reaction like you would like eating ice cream or something that just immediately gives that response to you and you know most of those foods like that's
Starting point is 00:49:35 that's the problem it's just like if if it gives you that like really heightened super sweet and like you know you get that feeling from it right away. That those are the dangerous ones. Those are the ones I'm always like, okay, well that has to be like a sparing, if anything, like I just have to like make sure that I don't like really indulge into that. Well, look, it's like any other substance, so you look at alcohol, right? So alcohol gives you, if you drink it, you know, appropriately, you give you a buzz, you have fun, lower your inhibitions.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Now imagine if that was the only information that I ever really consciously or honestly considered when I drink alcohol, it would not be hard for me to become an alcoholic, because I wouldn't even consider all the other damage and things that it causes to me. But because I have that broad understanding of alcohol, I can drink it appropriately, which means, you know, today's Monday, we're hanging out at work,
Starting point is 00:50:27 should I have a drink? Nah, it's not worth it. Oh, it's a wedding, I haven't seen these people in a long time, should I have some drinks? Yes, now it's appropriate. And so this is how you develop a proper and appropriate relationship with food. It's understandably, and it's a long process.
Starting point is 00:50:41 I had a client years ago who the worst diet I'd ever seen in my entire life. This woman, it was so bad, she didn't even drink water, which I didn't believe her. It took me months to really believe that she actually didn't drink water, but she didn't, she just drank Coke. That's all she had, she got her fluids.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Breakfast was powder donuts, lunch was a hot pocket. It was like the worst diet of all time. And so what I try to do is introduce her to getting her to eat more vegetables. Now the problem was she gagged when she would eat vegetables. She told me she couldn't stand them. And so it was this long process of I would have her eat as many as she can, as much as she could tolerate, which was a bite of broccoli. That was the only thing she could tolerate for a long time. And then I told her to take notes about other things besides the taste. Like how does it feel, how does your digestion, how's your energy, how's your skin. Well, over the course of months, she started to connect the dots with vegetables. And she noticed she felt better. She had more energy. She slept better. Her skin
Starting point is 00:51:37 was better. All these wonderful things and little by little because she became aware of all the other things that broccoli has besides the taste, which she hated, but aware of all the other things that broccoli has besides the taste which she hated, but she has all these other things that she had now, you know, connects to broccoli, she started to eat more broccoli, and then the funny thing is she started to enjoy the taste of broccoli. And that all happened. I had that same experience with my dad, but like that even then when you reduce these types of foods too, and they do agree to it, and then they go through that process, there's gonna be other barriers to overcome
Starting point is 00:52:09 like your digestive tract is gonna respond. Like you're gonna get gassy. Like you're gonna get this response right away because it's some new stimulus and we have to figure this out. Because if you have that shitty of a diet, something like that, like your body's gonna have this reaction
Starting point is 00:52:24 because it's just inevitable, you can have it. But so just getting through that and then coming out the other side and then realizing, you know, the benefits, the skin, the sleep, the, you know, just the weight, everything, like digest nice and evenly your poops, all that kind of stuff. And the other thing too is you got to find another way to comfort yourself. So right now that's what you use many times, not always, but usually when people binge on food, it's a way for them to comfort themselves
Starting point is 00:52:52 when they're stressed or anxious or whatever. You can't just take that away. You have to replace it with another practice. So it couldn't be walking, it could be meditation, it could be massage, it could be massage, it could be something else that you can start to find comfort in to replace that one thing. Otherwise, it's going to be a very difficult struggle for a while. Well, there's another suggestion too that we didn't really talk about that. I think
Starting point is 00:53:18 it helps because we kind of talked about my canyx, which is sugar, which is an obvious one that could be really challenging and doesn't need to be, you know, there's no reason for me to have, you know, candy in the diet on a regular basis at all, or if ever. So that's one example. But then you have other things where people can bench too, which is, you know, if you have these, you love salty foods and you, you know, get a handful of almonds and a handful of almonds turns into the whole bag almonds and that ends up being a thousand calories and Nuts that you know, oh because it's a healthy snack you justify it and you binge it and you do and you do this mindless eating
Starting point is 00:53:51 Now if you are listening and that is you or you have these you have a habit of doing things like that This is where portioning your food out and like we used to I do this still today like you know I just read the other night Katrina asked for some of the You know smoked almonds that we have that we love and we keep around the house as like a nice little snack and she goes You know when I was going downstairs says could you give me some almonds and when I give her almonds I don't just bring her the the jug of it or whatever. I actually will weigh out one ounce of it and put it We have these little tiny sound. I don't know if you've ever seen these little tiny sandwich ziplock. They're not even a snack bag. They're snack bags right there little tiny things and you know all way all way that now I don't have the way anymore because I know exactly
Starting point is 00:54:34 How many almonds is in one ounce and so I know that so I could just throw it in the bag real quick But I'll bring it to her like that versus just walking up and handing her the bag of the full bag of almonds because then it's really easy, especially when you're watching a movie or you're doing a adameting or you're doing something else that takes your mind off of you snacking on the food and that can get out of control. So portioning your food out ahead of time and knowing what your body needs and feeding yourself that way I think is really important. And, you know, a habit that I'm always trying to get better at is getting rid of the electronics
Starting point is 00:55:11 when we're eating and actually being fully present. If I'm putting something in my mouth, I'm always trying to practice being more mindful. Now does it happen all the time? No, there's sometimes like I gave the example of allowing, you know, my canyx-yam in meeting. No shit. I'm gonna eat the whole box, you know, because I'm not even thinking about what I'm doing I'm thinking about the meeting and all my brains turning and I'm just mindlessly throwing these things in my mouth until the box is completely empty. So being aware of that I think is a good suggestion and a good way to start in the right direction is being aware that you don't want to be distracted when you're eating anything and trying to be very present
Starting point is 00:55:48 at what you're consuming. Next question is from AYALC 96. Biggest mental hurdle you've had to overcome in your life. Ooh, mental hurdle. I know the first thing that comes of mind was the first time I ever felt what I think depression was. I don't, and I still to this day don't know if that's really full-blown depression or this
Starting point is 00:56:17 was just one of the darkest, hardest times for me. So, those that know my childhood, my story, and what I came from, I attached success, my credit score, buying a house at a young age. I attached a lot of those things as my identity because I wanted so badly to not be like my parents that I worked so hard, even from a young age into young adulthood to be this, you know, smart, successful, financially stable, excellent credit. I mean, by the time I was 22, I had my house, I had an 800 plus FICO score, I had money in the bank, I had 30 credit cards with no balance that I could run up to as high as I want to. So I had a lot of pride built around this. And when that got stripped from me, it was the most humbling experience I ever had in my life.
Starting point is 00:57:14 And I went through about six months of what I think was depression. And that was when I decided to walk away from my house ten years later. And when I did it, it was, it was the right thing to do. It was a smart strategy. The market was taking a shit. My house was about $100,000 upside down at that time. And I had advice from one of my good buddies
Starting point is 00:57:39 that was in the industry and he said, listen, it's gonna get darker, it's gonna get worse. He goes, right now, you're going to be able to short sell it, walk away from it. It'll take a ding on your credit. And by the time you rebuild it, you'll save more money by getting rid of this thing, then trying to hang onto it and keep paying what you're paying on it.
Starting point is 00:58:04 And my buddy was right. It was the right move to do, but I had no idea what it was going to do to me mentally. And when I had to do that, I went from this, here I am, I think I was 28, so this was maybe 29 when I short-sold my house. And when I did that, it fucked my credit up. And it, and now people thought I lost my house, like I couldn't afford to pay the mortgage. And it wasn't that case at all.
Starting point is 00:58:34 It was a smart strategy that we did. But because I identified so much with this guy that, you know, it bought his house by his early 20s and it had this great credit score and all these things it just crushed me. It crushed me now because you know I now had this stigma around me like oh he lost his home oh he doesn't have good credit and no one probably gave a fuck except for me and so it was a major mental hurdle for me that I was in depression for about six months and took me years later before I moved on from that and was like, okay, this is not me. I am not my house. I am not my credit score. I'm
Starting point is 00:59:13 not these things. But that was the hardest time for me ever was to break that. And you know, I don't, and today it's just now, I've just now in the last year had got to the point where I'm back up towards the, and I'm not even in the 800 anymore. I'm like the mid seven to high sevens now, but it took me almost six, six plus years to recover from that. And that was extremely difficult for me. And I didn't know why it was difficult when I was going through it. It was later on reflecting back and realizing that it was because that was so important to me.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Which I looked now and I think it was very good. It was great. It was great that I went through that and I was humbled like that because it reminds me of what's his face's book, the mini-mass. A lot of my success was because I was wearing this mask and I wanted to be so successful and I didn't want to be these things so bad that it pushed me to success at a very early age.
Starting point is 01:00:23 And then to have that stripped away was also one of the most humbling things. So I think it definitely brought me full circle and I'm in a better place today, but going through that was probably one of the hardest times ever. Yeah, it's always when you're going through it, I think you're, because I know when I went through mine,
Starting point is 01:00:42 when you're going through it, you don't realize just how much it's impacting you. Because you're maybe because you're surviving and you're just handling things. And then when you come out of it, you look back and you go, holy shit. Mine was recent, mine was my divorce. I was a, you guys saw me go through the worst, most challenging time of my life. When we started, mine pump, it was right around the beginning of it. Realizing that I now, the hardest thing I think was there were a few things that were really difficult
Starting point is 01:01:12 with it. One was, I had identified very strongly with being the family man, the wife and kids in the home and all that stuff. My family places a lot of value on that. So that was tough, you know, kind of shed that. It's a hit to the ego, right? Because it, you know, our marriage failed. But the big one that was very difficult, that I think I'm just now, you know, we're talking over two years later, three years later, just now coming out of is was the guilt of doing that both to my kids and also dealing with the fact that I'm not I don't see my kids every day and it wasn't that I was just super duper involved father
Starting point is 01:01:52 I definitely love my kids, but knowing that I would wake up on some days in the morning and my kids weren't there That's a that's a very difficult thing to Wrap your your mind around that okay my kids are going to be with me at least half the time. And it's kind of strange. And then when they were with me, it was, I was a very full-on father, whereas before, you know, at the time, my wife would do a lot of that, you know, that kind of stuff. And I was the guy that would just play with the kids and love them. So I had this big shift in change, but the guilt was just absolutely crushing. And it's a huge, huge difficult transition to go through.
Starting point is 01:02:32 And just like you, Adam, it's like, I don't realize, the further I get out of it, the more I realize how deep it was. You guys literally saw me at my absolute worst. And I'm still not back to my best. It's still something that's very difficult to deal with but I'm emerging out of it and what's coming out is much better. I would say more balanced you know version of myself but boy when you're going through some shit like that it's like you're just surviving and that's what I did so I try to do a survive. Now I had people like you guys
Starting point is 01:03:03 supporting me which kept me alive alive, and obviously Jessica, it was a big, big part of that whole process of keeping me sane and keeping me healthy and keeping me healthy enough to be a good father with that whole process, but man, that was a very, very difficult time, but I think like you Adam, you look back and you start to realize, it was a good thing. It was a good thing I went through that.
Starting point is 01:03:29 I'm a much better version of myself now. I continue to get better as a result of it. And then you realize, if you're listening right now and you're going through some shit, realize this, if you can make it through, and really that's the only way to get through is to go through it, if you can make it through what comes out the other end is a much better, smarter, more
Starting point is 01:03:50 humble version of yourself. If it doesn't break you, if it doesn't kill you, what they say, you know, makes you stronger. It's very, very true. So, you know, that's mine. Yeah, I was trying to, excuse me. I was trying to think of like, I was trying to think of like, you always tend to think of things that happen probably the most recently.
Starting point is 01:04:09 And I think that, you know, I've gone through a lot of mental harders. I mean, that's like, that's part of like the timeline is like you just, you face things, you overcome it. You know, and there's been a way that I've been able to deal with things. And I think that just recently the way that I've tried to deal with things hasn't worked. And so me being floored and humbled and having to readjust the way that I deal with things
Starting point is 01:04:33 has been the biggest mental hurdle. So instead of just picking the pieces up and barging my way, keep going forward and carrying the torch and just hammering my way through life. That was a hard lesson for me that I can't always do that. I have to learn how to quit when I have to quit. And I think that, you know, like it, as far as me going away from my family and going to Chicago, and that was a big learning lesson for me,
Starting point is 01:05:05 and just starting over again, sort of reinventing myself and going through that process, but then coming back, and then going through the trials, tribulations of business in general, and just going off on my own and creating things, and partnering up with people, and going through these different processes. And then the most recent one for me coming through
Starting point is 01:05:28 with trying to develop a product and then put it to market and your names on it. And all your pride is invested in it because it's something that you pour years into it. And then you realize it's just not there, it's not there, It's something that you just need to just go on. You need to let go. And then just me holding on to know it's going to work. It's going to work. It's going to work. And what that did to my family and people
Starting point is 01:05:59 around me, and you just see like you guys talk about, later you realize what that created, and how much time I had to give to people, I didn't have any, I just eliminated that. And so, yeah, these are just life lessons to me. It's difficult, it's difficult thing to adjust when you have certain ways of operating and realizing, well, this is affecting me physically now. My body is like, boom, no. I'm not going to let you keep moving forward, carrying all this stress and weight and everything. Burning things around you. You have to stop, man.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And you have to start prioritizing and looking at these challenges differently. And take on challenges that make sense at the time and eliminate the ones that don't make sense. It's amazing how life, whether you're a spiritual, religious person, you believe in the universe does all this shit, whatever your belief is, I find it very fascinating how life tends to serve you up. These amazing lessons and it's just whether or not you're willing to look at it that way. It's very easy, especially in this fucking climate we're in right now with this victimhood bullshit where shit happens to us and we're so quick to point the fingers at these outside forces and everybody else instead of reflecting on how you've caused
Starting point is 01:07:34 that potentially or what is the lesson in this for me. And it's really fucking tough to do that when you're in a dark space, when you're in these mental, when you're going through these mental challenges to do that, it's much easier to take the victimhood and go that direction and point fingers. But in my experience, these really, really dark times are these really mental hurdles that I've gone through have always been huge reflections of myself and why, and the things that I most identified with,
Starting point is 01:08:04 the things that I had the most pride in or what I was so certain about are normally the things that smack me in my face. And I just I think that's a really fascinating thing that it tends to happen to us. And I think it takes a really, really, really strong person to when you're in those moments to look at it and to look back at yourself and to think, what is the lesson for me in this versus all this happened to me and all the shit that has occurred
Starting point is 01:08:33 has been because of other people or things instead of going, wow, this is my pride, this is my ego and I'm being shown this right now, whether it be like I said from some outside source or whatever you want to fucking think or believe, I do believe that there's lots of messages that are out there that a lot of people struggle with being able to look at and reflect, you know?
Starting point is 01:08:54 Absolutely. Next question is from the Girls Gone Wad Podcast. What are girls? Hey, it's their friends. If you had all the time in the world and no other life restrictions, what would you want to immerse yourself in and learn more about and why?
Starting point is 01:09:09 Emmerce yourself in. Wow. You know why this is hard is because I feel like we, I mean, maybe me, I'll just speak to myself. Yeah, I feel like I do that, right? I feel like, maybe I would immerse myself more. So if maybe that's where we're going with this, is that if I didn't have any financial responsibilities
Starting point is 01:09:32 or we didn't need to work, and then all I could do is study and learn, neuroscience and psychology, man. I just, I love that. I'm fascinated with how the brain works. That's why you like Tom Billi so much. Yeah, I do. I share that. I'm fascinated with how the brain works. That's why you like Tom Bill you so much. Yeah, I do. I share that in common. I really do. I really am interested in where that research is going right now and what
Starting point is 01:09:54 we're learning about that. I love psychology. I've always liked psychology. So I would probably immerse myself in that even more because I read like that already, but I think I would dive even deeper. What I don't do, I'll tell you this I read like that already, but I think I would dive even deeper. What I don't do, I'll tell you this, what I don't do that I wish I did more and sounds really good with this. I like neuroscience and psychology, so I read a lot of books around that.
Starting point is 01:10:16 But what I don't do is I don't read a lot of studies and I can't get into PubMed the same way that Sal does. Where if I think if I had a lot of time and I was just fully immersing myself in that, I think I would probably do both in combination with reading books. All you gotta do is this is a very easy way to do it. Give me the hack, dude.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Yeah, all you gotta do is if you go on Facebook, because there's a lot of pages and stuff for different things that people are interested in. I'm doing it right now. Look up psychology, type that in, or look up neuroscience, or neuroscience in, or look up neuroscience, or neuroscience news, or just look up different things. And then you'll see all these different pages,
Starting point is 01:10:51 and then click on the page, see if you like what they're posting. If you like it, just start following it, and then what'll happen is it'll just show up in your news feed. So when I go through my news feed, they can't select all those for you, huh? It's their groups.
Starting point is 01:11:02 That makes sense. Yeah, and they just hand select them. You know, they'll post new studies. Oh, this just came out or whatever. And so now when I go through my news feed, I have all these, you know, people posting on, you know, cannabis science on, I like psychology also, so psychology, philosophy,
Starting point is 01:11:21 history, economics, politics. They just pop up and then I just click on it and I read and it's like it They just give it to me. It's really really cool. Yeah, it's cool. I think for me like and this is probably not gonna come as any Surprised you guys but like I mean, well what Adam said for sure applies like I think there's a lot of room for even Venturing into other other things that interest me within this business, and that's what's so great about it, is just the kind of room that we've created in terms of being creative and going in different directions, and having it still apply to what we're doing.
Starting point is 01:11:53 But I do have this passion for film, and I have this passion for music, and so those would be my two directions to really immerse myself in a bit more. I think it's more. And that that because I love the my heels. I just do. But I see what they feel. Yeah, but I do like I've always ideas that like leave me in
Starting point is 01:12:15 that direction. Like I would just love to learn actually, you know, how to frame things, how to like, you know, tell a story better like within, you know, the film, you know, within the film, do it that way, and kind of shadow somebody and watch the process of it that'd be fascinating. But I just love music. That's the other part of it that I just kind of flirt with every now and then.
Starting point is 01:12:36 But when I was just focused on music, it was a lot of fun. Dude, I can't remember, I thought of you. Over the weekend, we were watching watching I don't remember what it was I think it was on Netflix and they have these little short Documentaries and they had one on music and how I had no idea how complex the human intelligence is for the way that we recognize Music and melody and I had no idea. I didn't even, never dawned on me. But as I'm watching it, we're the only animals on Earth
Starting point is 01:13:09 that can perceive and understand all these different aspects of music, whereas other animals are very, very limited or nothing at all. Some animals can pick up on a sequence of sounds, but if it's up and octave or below and octave, they don't understand anymore. Whereas we can, regardless, we can pick up on a sequence of sounds, but if it's up and octave or below and octave, they don't understand anymore. Whereas we can, regardless, we can pick up the same sequence,
Starting point is 01:13:30 or pick up, you know, harmony, or whatever, the human mind evolved around music in an incredible, in a very fascinating way. So as I was watching this, it was really, it was really interesting to me. I thought about you, Justin. Yeah, you got it. Like send me over like what that was, that documentary.
Starting point is 01:13:49 It actually got me interested, more interested in maybe learning more, you know, learning more music. I know, just guys, now she wants to start learning music because I think that kind of spurred that, you know, that thought. And I think it's probably, I don't know what came first, but it's definitely how humans communicate. That's how we told, that's how we had history.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Before we were able to record it, written, write it down and record it, it was music that allowed us to pass on history. And until this day, you're far more likely to remember things. If you sing them. It's gonna help you, exactly. It's gonna help your communications, it's gonna level you up there too, because you notice even people have a delivery like a certain up and down
Starting point is 01:14:29 kind of cadence with it too, that is really effective and it's effective for a reason. It's interesting to kind of see like if you like patterns in terms of like a sound like that. Well, they were showing people in this particular documentary, they were showing how like Parkinson's patients who normally would move very, you know, you know, jittery or whatever, with music, moving with the music, all of a sudden their movement becomes fluid. They were also showing where they were talking to, you know, patients or victims of stroke or parts of the brain had died or whatever, and they weren't able to recall things, but if they were singing it, they were able to recall and communicate. It's really fascinating shit.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Anyway, that's off the side there. For me, it's probably, I like psychology a lot too. I find that really, really fascinating. I love just humans in general just fascinating the hell out of me, especially the complexities of our behaviors and cultures and why we do the things that we do. And I also enjoy other aspects of that love history, really we love history. I think it's fascinating to read about characters in history and also just think about how different
Starting point is 01:15:40 people were just a few generations ago, how acceptable certain behaviors were that today we would consider a born or just different ways of thinking. In literally a few generations, like three old people ago, that's not that long ago, right? Like vastly different ways of thinking in some respects. So I love history for that kind of stuff. Of course economics fascinates me, but I don't like the details of economics,
Starting point is 01:16:03 I like economic theory, and really it boils down to psychology. I like economics, I like understanding how humans progress and interact with each other, and when they do it in voluntary ways, the things that we're able to accomplish when we're able to do it that way is pretty fascinating. And I think that's pretty much, it's funny because it's a hard question to answer
Starting point is 01:16:28 because I didn't get into work and Then have other hobbies and stuff. I turned my interest and passions into my work, right? Yeah, you know what I mean? That's why I had a hard time because it's like these are things that I'm already Emersing myself and so after listening you guys talking and just kind of touching on music it does actually And so after listening to you guys talk and then just in kind of touching on music, it does actually remind me something that I think it'd be fun. I think people might laugh when I say this, but you know, I would immerse myself back into sports more. I mean, I I've been doing that more lately than I have in a long time. And it's reconnected me even strong, even more strongly with my childhood best friends.
Starting point is 01:17:07 And I just, I love the game. I love the game and I love all sports. And I don't have the time to fall. I love hockey, I love basketball, I love baseball, I love football. And when I was a kid, I had the ability and the time to immerse myself in all those sports. And I just don't have that. Like now I have to pick like one, maybe two that I really follow intently. And then the rest I just kind of follow away side funny because I had this conversation
Starting point is 01:17:33 with my best friend that we're like, you know, run the dogs and stuff. And we're, we're reflecting on that, that game that we played, you know, for football. And like we're just these old guys, we're talking about the way we totally do to get in a heartbeat and really the appeal for it was just that it was this expression that even though it was insanely hard and I was gassed and it was not in any sort of shape I normally was. It was just getting through that. It was this euphoric feeling again.
Starting point is 01:18:02 It was funny because I was like, yeah, but I like, I work out. You know, and I try and like emulate that kind of stress and that sort of like overcoming that, you know, that training and getting better. And I thrive in that, but at the same time, for me, like working out feels like blue balls. Okay, hear me out, okay. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:18:23 So instead of like, you know, how Arnold's like, like instead of like, you know how Arnold's like, like it's like, you know, the getting the pomp is like, I know where you're going. Right? Like I don't have that. It doesn't translate to anything. I don't like.
Starting point is 01:18:33 You don't have a goal, you're looking for that. Yeah, not like it's not like this explosion, if you will, of abilities that I'm displaying. So, yeah, they get the metaphor there. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Next up, Shamel Fitness. So yeah, they get the metaphor there.
Starting point is 01:18:47 Next up, Shamel fitness. Is there such thing as a weed hangover? Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. I've had this before. Yeah. This is why I don't like edibles. Edibles give you more of a hangover? Absolutely. Because what happens is if I take like a and this is why it's the same reason why if I were to smoke a ton, it would give me the same feeling. It's just, I'm taking, you're taking too much of it. And it's just like alcohol hangover, you know, when you feel that way, you over did it, right?
Starting point is 01:19:15 And so that's part of your gauge is you didn't, and I feel, etables are the easiest to do this with. Like, if I'm smoking weed and, you you know before I'm even done smoking it will already have hit me and I'll feel what I feel like before so I won't then I'll stop right and there won't be this like I won't keep what once I feel like oh wow I'm really high right now I don't just keep on smoking but with an edible I can easily misgage you know how much I should take based off of you know know, oh, the last time I took 10 milligrams, I felt this way. So I want to feel that way again.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Oh, whoops, I'm on an empty stomach. My body just sucked that right up. And now I'm on this ride for longer than I'd like. And then it carries into me falling asleep. And then when I wake up, I feel groggy. So yeah, I mean, I mean, wouldn't you say that you could have a hangover for almost anything that you over, over consumed? I mean, you could have a food hangover. You could have a, I could have a hangover for almost anything that you over over consume?
Starting point is 01:20:05 I mean, you could have a food hangover. You could have a, I could have a caffeine. And thanksgiving. Right. Can't you have a hangover for almost anything? You can definitely, I think with cannabis, and this by the way, if you look this up, you'll get lots of anecdotes on people who say that they get a weed hangover if they have too much.
Starting point is 01:20:21 I can tell you that it's probably, there's definitely a scientific explanation for it. We just don't know quite what's causing it. Although what you're saying about the edibles, Adam, might make sense because when you consume cannabis, the THC actually gets converted to a more potent form of THC. It's Delta 11, I believe, Delta 11 THC. When you smoke it, it's Delta 9. And that's why it lasts longer. So when you have an edible, you can stay, you know, high or whatever, for, you know, three to five hours, whereas if you smoke it within a couple hours, it usually
Starting point is 01:20:56 goes away. And that's why I think maybe you're more likely to get a hangover because it lasts longer in the body. Now, my opinion, the reason why I think this may be a thing, you know, when your body's exposed to all these cannabinoids, I think your body starts to down regulate your endocannabinoid receptors quite rapidly. And you'll notice if you smoke one day or you have some one day, the very next day your tolerance is already up,
Starting point is 01:21:22 the very next day, you can have, you can have five milligrams of THC today as an edible. Tomorrow, the same five milligrams of THC, it's not gonna feel as strong, which is evidence that your body's already started to adapt. And so I think what happens is you just, if you hammer yourself with all these cannabinoids,
Starting point is 01:21:40 your cannabinoid receptors down regulate, which means these receptors that cannabinoids attach to kind of shut off. And remember, your body makes its own cannabinoids. It has its own natural cannabinoids. So now that you have lower, less receptors, your normal circulating levels of cannabinoids that you normally have, now we're having less of an effect
Starting point is 01:22:00 on you. And so what does it feel like to have less of an effect? Well, you might feel cranky, you might feel foggy, you might feel unmotivated, tired, you might have a headache, you just might feel kind of like, you know, not that good. And then you wait to the next day and then everything seems to, you know, seems to come back normal. I also think that your body might produce less of its own cannabinoids when you're constantly flooding your body with, you know, cannabinoids from the outside,yto canabinoids from from cannabis So and this is why this is one of my one of the talking points I was having to tell people
Starting point is 01:22:32 To use cannabis appropriately like you smoke a shit ton of weed all now just because it's not toxic Doesn't mean it's not without its own negative effects and you have a ton all the time. I think your body May actually start to produce less of its own cannabinoids. And you may actually produce a situation where it's not unlike drinking coffee all the time. You go off coffee and now you have this week of feeling terrible. I think the same thing can happen with cannabis. So that's what I think that's happening.
Starting point is 01:22:58 I think you're just hammering your body with too much of it. I think the long acting form of THC that happens when you eat it because your liver converts it to this longer acting form. It makes it more likely that you're going to have a hangover. And you know, this is something that I'll experience like when we go on trips and sometimes when we're creating a program all day long, we'll be consuming cannabis all day. I'll notice when I get back from the trips, it takes me a couple days to get back to normal. Oh yeah. This is too much. Yeah, there's the right amount for sure and I do feel that like it I guess like now you mentioned it with edibles. Yeah, if I go past a certain amount it definitely The next day. I mean, I just I don't want to there's no motivation. It's just like a very much of a
Starting point is 01:23:37 I'm forgetful and I'm just low energy and so I mean that's definitely that would I'd consider that a hangover Well, I also feel a lot better when, you know, and I didn't start doing this till I met you, Sal, which is looking for a one-to-one ratio or a simpler way for me to do it now, like if I'm smoking, which I tend to do on a more regular basis, I don't know how to big on edible, but now that we've been sponsored by Ned,
Starting point is 01:24:02 I'll just, I keep that up my bed, and then I take a drop, if I decide I'm gonna smoke right by Ned, I'll just, I keep that but my bed, and then I take a droffler, if I decide I'm gonna smoke right before bed, I also take a dropper of that with that, and I feel better from that. Well, I think, and they're not quite sure how CBD works, because it doesn't attach to the two known receptors that we know about.
Starting point is 01:24:22 Now, either there's another receptor that we haven't identified yet, or what a law scientist think that's happening is that CBD improves your body's ability to utilize cannabinoids, both your own endocannabinoids and maybe the phyto cannabinoids. What it may be doing is CBD
Starting point is 01:24:38 may actually be up regulating cannabinoid receptors, which if you're gonna down-regulate your cannabinoid receptors with lots of THC, then it makes sense that CBD would help mitigate some of the negative side effects by maintaining the up-regulation of those. So you may actually be down-regulating less because you're having CBD.
Starting point is 01:24:59 Now, in my experience, I'm the same way. If I have a one-to-one ratio, I feel much better at the time and the day after. And the studies that they've done have shown that people get less anxiety, less paranoid, less memory loss when they go one-to-one ratio versus just pure tea. And the reason why cannabis,
Starting point is 01:25:16 most cannabis has so little T, excuse me, so little CBD is because... It's on the plant grows. Well, the black market pushed so hard the high that everybody just bred plants that were just high in THC. It's only recently that we've seen now growers try to breed in some CBD in there as well. Because for a long time,
Starting point is 01:25:37 CDs didn't get you high. So why would anybody buy it on the black market? Well, yeah, and it was, it made no sense. As a being a grower who was very familiar with Charlotte's web and Harlequin Which are you're more dominant CBD plants? They also grow differently so and they yield very little so it makes no sense as a grower and a farmer to produce a Product that very few people wanted and it also yielded lower and make no financial sense unless you had a very specific Need that you were trying to produce X amount of CBD.
Starting point is 01:26:07 Well, the irony of it all, it's funny, because again, this is what the black market does. Black market pushes a stronger, more potent version of all drugs, because the only reason why you can find cannabis now that CBD and high CBD and all stuff is because it's now been legalized, both medisely and recreationally.
Starting point is 01:26:27 If that never happened, we still would not have... Just be all THC. It would because nobody would know what's in there. They don't know the benefits. They would just use it and just want to get high. This is what ends up happening. All black market drugs, the potency goes through the roof. It's got to hit you harder for the same amount or whatever.
Starting point is 01:26:45 So it's pretty ironic, right? That the legalization now is producing cannabis that is probably better for you than what the black market did. And with that, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download some free guides. We have the latest guide that we have is how to squat like a pro. We talk about some advanced techniques to getting your squat up into the stratosphere. Get a bigger squat. Mind pump free.com.
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