Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 889: Misunderstood Exercises, Low Calorie Foods Contribution to Binge Eating, When Kids Shouldn't Lift Weights & MORE

Episode Date: October 27, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about exercises and movements that have misrepresented intentions, if foods marketed as low calorie are contributing to normalizing binge eating behaviors, how young is too young to lift weights and if masterminds are the real deal or BS. Who is the culprit leaving their underwear around the studio while using the Joovv light? (4:15) Guys review the new products from Organifi: Pure and Pumpkin Spice! (8:29) Not exercising worse for your health than smoking, diabetes and heart disease, a study reveals. (12:02) How many more categories can they create with the Guinness Book of World Records??!! (22:56) Jack Lalanne: Fitness Pioneer. (24:40) The Trade War Continues: Ford Prepares for Mass Layoffs After Losing $1 Billion to Trump's Trade Tariffs, Report Says. (29:50) Stranded at Mexico’s Southern Border, Migrants Consider Their Options. (34:20) #Quah question #1 – What other exercises and movements that have misrepresented intentions? (36:41) #Quah question #2 – Do you think foods marketed as low calorie are contributing to normalizing binge eating behaviors? (47:09) #Quah question #3 - How young is too young to lift weights? (59:53) #Quah question #4 - Are masterminds are the real deal or BS? (1:07:15)   People Mentioned: Ryan Michler/ Order Of Man (@orderofman)  Instagram Tristyn Lee | FOOTBALLER (@tristynleeofficial)  Instagram Bhrett McCabe, Ph.D. (@drbhrettmccabe)  Instagram Mike Salemi (@mike.salemi)  Instagram Links/Products Mentioned: October Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic ½ off!! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Joovv **MAPS Prime w/purchase of $500 or more and free shipping** Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off at checkout** Not exercising worse for your health than smoking, diabetes and heart disease, study reveals Guinness World Records 2019: What you can find in the new records annual Jack Lalanne pulls 70 boats on 70th birthday - YouTube Ford Prepares for Mass Layoffs After Losing $1 Billion to Trump's Trade Tariffs, Report Says Stranded at Mexico’s Southern Border, Migrants Consider Their Options Strengthen Your Core with the Renegade Row - YouTube How to do a PROPER Plank - YouTube Mind Pump Episode 506: Dr. Bhrett McCabe Mind Pump Libarry - as Adam Would Say – Facebook Group Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salta Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. And today's episode is about 36 minutes long. We start out with mystery underwear. There was a little bit of a kerfuffle, a little leftover from the night before. We found out who it is. Find out in this episode. Smells, smells familiar. Yeah, yeah, you smelled that one. And then we move into the many

benefits of the red light we are sponsored by Juve and that's juve.com. So it's j-o-o-o-v-v-e.com. So it's j-o-o-v-v.com. Slice mine, pup. Maps Prime with purchase of 500 or more and free shipping. Oh, that's a fantastic deal. And then we move right into the Organified Talk. Yeah, Organified. They're one of our best sponsors. They have the clear product now.

And that's a new topic. And it's a really excellent product. We all got to try it out. It just talked about the gold pumpkin spice and he tried that with his wife. It was very impressed by the flavor and the texture and it's a really good product. Then we moved into the fitness study and this is where Sam was talking about exercising. If you don't do exercising, it's pretty much like smoking a packet of cigarettes a day. Pretty crazy study. I should look into it.

Well, worse than it, yes. And then I'm done. I'm done. That is all I got. All right. Then we get into the Guinness book of world records. Justin's trying to come up with a way for us to be in the world.

Can we do this? I really do want to do this, you guys. Yeah, all right, so, go ahead. Yeah, we should do it. I do want to mention we are sponsored by Organifi. Now, Justin did just talk about that was his voice, not mine. The gold juice pumpkin spice, drink this at night,

winning, relaxes your body, tastes amazing, might make you horny or maybe not, but I think that's what Justin said to happen with him and his wife. If you go to organifi.com, what does that brandy? Mind pump and use the code Mind Pump, no space, you get 20% off.

That we talked about Jack Lillane, he's the man when it comes to fitness. He broke many world records in his 50s. It's kind of crazy. They were talking about Ford, the car company, and how they're laying off a shit ton of people because of the tariffs. What's a tariff? It's terrible. It's a tax. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, this person used to not like renegade pushups because they misunderstood the intention. You see, renegade pushups are an anti-rotational exercise, and we name other movements that

have been misrepresented in the past and done improperly as a result. You're doing it wrong, bro. That's right. The next question was, do we think foods marketed as low calorie are contributing to normalizing binge eating behavior? It's binge eating culture, hashtag. Are they making it worse? Great part in that episode, great discussion. Then we talk about how young is too young to lift weights?

Can three-year-olds lift weights? Yeah, Yeah. Maybe. Load them up. And the final question. What do we think about all these masterminds that are promising to level up your life in 10XU business and make you an influencer and all that stuff? We're very supportive.

Are the pictures in front of fancy cars and supplements really reflective of how sometimes you get wrist wraps at the end, so it's worth it. That's right. Yeah. Also, this month, Maps aesthetic, this is our Body Builder, Physic Competitor, Bikini Competitor, aesthetic-focused program, it's on sale, half off, all month long. 50% off, just go to mapsblack.com, use the code,50, that's BLA CK50, no space, get 50% off. Also, if you have any questions on our other maps, programs, just go to mapsfitnessproducts.com.

So I'm almost certain this is Sal, because I don't know anybody, because Sal almost every day, the last week or two, I've came in here, he's standing in front of the Juvelight and someone has left a pair of underwear on the ground. They're not my underwear. They're obviously not my underwear. You're on this mission right now.

Cause there's too much material. Yeah, the briefs. I don't wear box or briefs. I wear the bikini. Now, let me ask you something too. And you brought this up as another additional benefit that I didn't know in terms of like, you know, like, I wanna say herpes,

but it's like, the lips, like, so I've been doing more research on red light therapy, photo modulation and reduces the instance of the outbreaks of herpes, simplex virus, including the ones that a lot of people have on their mouth, like cold source. Cold source. So yeah, so using that on your,

and this is a big deal, you know, because some people have them. Yeah, they'll get that shit every season, like every winter. And actually reduces that, increases or improves the way mitochondria produces energy, which is everything. If you're talking about longevity

and you wanna talk about athletic performance, like ATP for example, that's the main energy the mitochondria uses. This white crea-team makes you stronger. Red light therapy does that as well. Reduce increases the collagen production and skin, which indirectly should reduce the appearance of wrinkles and fines lines and stuff like that. I've been doing it because we got the new Juve Light.

What is it called? Where they give us all those panels that you can connect? Modular. Yeah, so you can make your own shape or whatever. So we just turned ours into a one big massive panel. How rad would that be? It just have one entire room with all the modules like beaming on you.

All around. I'm working on doing something with mine at home and I'm not going to share what it is until I do it because then everybody's going to fucking bug me. You know where it like underwear? No, no, no, no, no. I'm a fucking doing something with mine at home and I'm not gonna share what it is until I do it because then everybody's gonna fucking bug me You know where it like underwear? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, The hell's using our sauna and then taking the under one big butt. Yeah, you know the type of fuck XL You had to talk to T dog. I don't you think I was Taylor Well, I did see his insta did you see his insta story yesterday? No, it was he answered the story to him Doing the juv life and he insta story to himself doing the sauna. Oh Get you Taylor. You can't be going naked on the man. I don't want your balls on my fucking son. I see dude

No, man. Okay with that. It's funny too because you cuz we're not here Yeah, no, you don't want that so it's like grab his ass by man bunk I'm like a point to come back now we know what is catch him in the act now we know with his which McCullough is underwear brand is like it could be it could be Enzo could be could be could be Enzo yeah yeah little Enzo sneaking in there well okay so here's the thing to and And I catch you doing this. I don't know why because it penetrates through shirts close. It goes through the clothes. It does, but you just better to go to your shirt off.

It's better to be bare skinned. You feel sick here. You think so? Yeah, it is. Yeah, it is. Yes, it does penetrate through clothes, but if you can be bare skinned on it, it's even better. You get more.

This is based off of your theory or that. No, this is what this is what I've read. Okay, I've done my research. Okay. Yeah, so you want to be... I mean, it's somewhat makes sense because obviously it's just one less thing that the light has to penetrate through. It does penetrate pretty effectively though, like if you're wearing a really thin shirt,

a lot of it will get through, but not 100%. Some of it's going to get scattered by the shirt that you're wearing. Get one of those right-said Fred shirts. Oh, yeah, because the... Remember that? Because the Juve is near, near far and mid. So if it's near far and mid, like it's, you know, the difference between the three of those are the ranges and how deep it penetrates into you.

And if it gets all the way into you. It's a, it's a fucking deep red light. It's not like normal red. Like it's like, oh, yeah. Oh, dude, it's, if you look at it from across the room. It looks like I'm I'm changing the color of everything It looks like I'm about to get like beamed up into a spaceship Well, that's you can tell too. It's not one of those gimmicky ones that a lot of these companies or do you see Amazon? It's like bulb someone spray paint

It's just a red light. It's not actual red light. I never know you're gonna get That's the hustle dude. It's not actual red light. They never know you're gonna get it. That's the hustle, dude. That's the hustle for sure. Dude, so did you guys end up trying the Organifi Pure? I have. I sent us the sample. I haven't tried that. And I haven't tried the pumpkin spice yet.

I just got to try that last night. Oh, you did. Yeah, Courtney and I, because we love the gold, it's our absolute favorite. And to now they added the actual pumpkin spice and cloves and all that kind of stuff into the Into the the the gold juice. So it's as good or better It's I actually enjoy it more because you know, just the flavor of it like I actually like enjoy the flavor of that one more but

Yeah, we didn't get all fancy and make it into a tea like we've made the the the gold juice into like a tea sometimes And I'm I'm actually gonna probably do that tonight because you uh Trump relaxing. Did you Trump around in your leggings and hugs? You know I might Instagram that you know do that like it nice like Please you know a watch or get advice cells go through the roof You get some leggings and put it in a Starbucks cup. Yes, and drink some pumpkin Feeling the fall vibes Coz they mean yeah, we'll carve some pumpkins. I wanted to try the pure, but I Forgot to try actually because they sent us didn't even send us like they sent it in cocaine bags

It looks like that We got it. It's true. We got in the mail. I open it. We asked for a GANify right we anytime they have a new product We say could you send it over us? we obviously could try and talk about it right so We tell them to send over the pure and we just a clear plastic bag Yeah, they're literally in tiny clear little cocaine looking bag is and it's white powder Do this I got like my pinky nails like really long yeah That was that was that what that's all about sometimes you see some with long people bro come on of course no it's not yes it is if you have a if you have a Sometimes you see just old people like it just the one if you have one pinky now

That's really long we know what you're up to yes, dude. You're snorting bro I'm seeing I seem like old people with this like old like I saw an old Chinese man Maybe that's how they got a bed the morning you think old people don't do cocaine either so I'm saying really yes They're not doing blow why not well We got a bed the morning. That's what you think old people do, cocaine, and there's some scene. Really? Yes. They're not doing blow. Why not? Well, it's just a bump. I mean, unless all of them, like you're just on the right hand,

you know, you could justify that for picking like a guitar. A lot was for picking their nose. No, dude, a long pinky nail is cocaine bumps, dude. No way. Every time. I'm with Adam, I'm 100%. Are you sure I'm gonna look this one? Maybe 98 the time. Yeah, I'm a look at I can't I'm I have yet to see another use for it though. Yeah, I mean you brought up picking your nose

But I mean you're that's next level like you got it you must have some serious boogers if you're like I'm gonna grow like a trowel I'm gonna grow one nail out so I can get these motherfuckers. I'm gonna read it right now What why they think it says okay? Coke spoon, that's one of them. That's a booger scoop or ear wax excavator. That's so cool. Maybe that is all three. Oh, here we go.

We're all three. Here we go. Oh. Yeah, here we go. Okay, so in the old days in China, long fingernails were signed that you were rich and didn't do manual labor. And now they grow

out the pinky as a sign of culture, breeding, and wealth. See, I knew it. I was an old Chinese man I saw with just one and there's no one. The number one is for coke. No way, no way he was doing. Well, a sign of wealth, too, is if you had to afford to have coke almost every day, too. So I think he's doing coke. It could be that's a fucking Adam sometimes you make a point that's like this very compelling day that's like the second good point you've made this this year I'm on fire keep it going brother I'm gonna I'm gonna do it five feet two it's gonna it's fucking the end of October and I've got two huh two dude that's fucking two more than last year that's a lot that's here was zero did you guys

uh did you guys see that study I shared in the group text like a few days ago on exercise, what they just showed remind me. They were comparing it to smoking, right? Like in terms of like everything's prepared to sleep. Yeah, I know, right? That's kind of the go to. No, what are they saying?

Dude, I'm gonna open this up because here's the crazy thing about the study. I feel like I read this. The study showed, and I'm gonna read some of the, I guess the details of the study. It was a big study. You know what we need to do? I'm petitioning a third thread.

I know we have so many damn group threads. Just a study thread? Yeah, like one that's for the show. Mine pumps studies. Yeah, it's content that we want to talk about on this. Because then we have the idea. Because this one has got like, you know, where are you gonna find it?

I got it. Okay. Random, big jokes in here you gonna find it? I got it, I got it. Okay. It's all full of them. Random, big jokes in here. Don't worry, I saved it. So, new pictures of Sally sends over to us. So, I just want to see it this morning. I just want you guys to let me know my progress.

That's all, my progress on my new pictures. You gotta see everything. So, it's really clearing that stuff up here. In the, the news. A new study that was published in the Journal of the American Medical Association, JAMA, showed that not exercising, you ready for this? Might actually be worse for you. Oh, I did see that. Might actually be worse for you than smoking.

Then smoking, diabetes or heart disease. In other words, not exercising, maybe the worst fucking thing you could do for yourself. Well, I mean, obesity is past, obesity is one of the number one killers, right? It is, but here's the thing with obesity. Lots of people die from poor fitness and health who aren't even obese. There's actually a large minority, it's not a majority, but a large minority of people who are not overweight,

who have diabetes or get a heart attack. Yeah, because there shit's all clogged up inside there. That's what I'm saying. So, to me, that's kind of a no-brainer or a duh, right? Because we've been saying this on the show since we've started this thing. We are in a, and maybe it's not, we're not scared yet, but it's a scary time right now where we're becoming very, very fucking sedentary, man. Oh, it's bad.

On another level. To the point where I'm a fitness professional and I, and this is why I wear my damn track all the time because I'm fucking blown away by how sedentary I can be. You know, and I'm a workout person. Like I could get a workout in in the day and still. It doesn't just stop there. I could still only have 4,000 steps. You're not doing enough if you're sitting the whole rest of the time. No, maybe we need to podcast on treadmills from now on because I feel like, you know what I mean? Oh, God, I'm Ben Greenfield.

Remember the first time we showed up at Ben's house and we had to stand, it was crazy. I'm like, what? Come on, man, I'm working right now. Can I at least sit? Yeah, exactly, come on, guys. So check out the study. So here, hear me out, right?

So researchers at the Cleveland Clinic studied over 122,000 patients. So this is a big, this was a big study. And they did treadmill testing on these people from 1991 to 2014. And then later on, they recorded mortality rates. So 122,000 people, treadmill testing. They found that high levels of cardiovascular fitness

were directly linked to health and longevity. And what they found was, now this is crazy. Being unfit on a treadmill or in an exercise stress test had a worse prognosis as far as death than being hypertensive, being diabetic, or being a current smoker. That's crazy. So having bad fitness is worse for you

than if you smoke all the time. If you have high blood pressure if you're diabetic, that's fucking insane. And yeah, it's pretty. That's still not the highest on the totem pole in terms of like, you know, the general public's awareness, like, like, look, we need to exercise. I mean, get off your ass. Now, here's what else they found. This is also, this is pretty cool.

This is pretty cool. There was no upper limit of benefits. So what they, what this means is that what they found with the studies, the more they exercise regularly, the better and better. The better their mortality rates were, the better the health was. How fucking cool is that?

And that's us speaking to mortality and something that you say a lot in the show and I really think it's such a great point. It's like, you don't exercise just so you can live longer. That's like you're just a fucking bi-project. Or by the way, you get an extra 10 years of your life. Like, that's pretty fucking cool.

The reality of the biggest benefit is improved the current life. Yeah. And this is something that I saw, I was just talking to one of my nephew who's like getting back in really good shape right now. And, you know We're talking about his diet and an exercise and all these things and I'm like you know

When you when you will find long-term success is when you Stop looking at it is I feel fat and I want to look a certain way and I want this because that all you can anybody can put their mind to something You know resist eating food and an exercise like crazy to get to a point. But it's the other things that you need to make the connections to. It's the when I'm eating this way and I'm exercising, how are my relationships? How is my sleep? How is my sex drive? How is my performance at work? How is my mood? How are all these other things that we just kind of tend to not think about? Or we just, we don't give a lot of value to, we're just like, oh yeah, no, I feel great when I'm extra, okay, well that's really vague.

Like connect the dots to all the things that it really truly does improve your current life. And if you can do that, it's much easier to be motivated to get up and move more and deduce to stuff because all those other things that people tend to make as an excuse of why they can't exercise becomes improved. Right, and it's important, that's a very good point because it's important to understand

that just keeping you longer isn't what exercise does. It keeps you, it improves the quality of your life. So although you may live 10 years longer, if you're fit and mobile, and people listening right now or young don't understand this. I've trained, I used to train a lot of people in advance, they're just one of my favorite age groups to work in. And loss of mobility and loss of independence

dramatically reduces your risk of, dramatically reduces the quality of your life. What is that, Doug? Doug has got the camera. He's going back to see who the culprit is. He's got, I see a man bun. I see a man bun see a man by it was either with no clothes on. Oh my god Have you told the cameras are on in here? Nobody knows except us Wow, you know what Taylor doesn't listen to show consistently so he probably has no idea

There's no idea that he's that he's let's let's let's never let him know Let's see if he tries to deny there his underwear. Yeah, yeah, no those are mine. No, you know we'll do not mind. We'll pick them up Just and you can grab them now And let's hang him over him your songs. You know what though? He doesn't do well with that kind of hazing. Yeah, yeah, you know what Adam? He would never made it Do it for turning you know, you just give it to him like side Bro, I know these yours We should box him up as a brand and give it to him

Open up. How do you know? We know this is your brand. Yeah, yeah anyway Back to the study. Yeah, thanks for the sidetrack. Sorry. Sorry. No squirrel. No, well Doug is pulled up I see a camera. I see a naked man button walking in our stomach. It's a little distracting. No, no, back to the study. You know, quality of life that are important. So when you look at the end, your quality of life dramatically reduces towards the end of your life. And exercise dramatically improves it. So yes, you will live longer. You're also going to spend less money on healthcare, which believe me will bankrupt the fuck out of you.

Look at how much people spend the last five years of their life and improve the quality of life today. And it's a simple thing to do. Of course, it's not easy. You do have to change your lifestyle around it, but just, you know, the quality of your life doesn't have to go down that same path. And, you know, if you look at your body and all your systems and inner workings, there's just a natural pruning process

that happens when you stop doing things and you stop doing certain movements and you become more center. Your body adapts and it wants to then just prioritize only a few things. So now before you know it, those abilities are gone. So studies like this are going to, they're gonna explode the market for fitness.

It's gonna keep growing. It's already growing. It has to. It's gonna explode because studies are now showing that like the studies said, which is mind blowing, that not exercising is worse for you than smoking. And if, when people start realizing that this is like a public health issue that we need to start telling

people to move more. Oh, it's gonna be awesome. I mean, you saw how people look at people now that smoke. Like there's definitely, I mean, it was effective like the campaigning and to really like put out there that like what smoking really leads to. And so it's just like, yeah, why would you even do that? So it's too big.

Well, structured exercises, structured planned exercises, becoming more and more of a thing because daily life doesn't include any activity. Well, listen, innovation is awesome and incredible. And we tend to celebrate it all the time and we don't really tend to discuss the cause of my product. Yes, the buy product, so it is so cool now, did this last night, driving home from the game late.

And I would, I ubered or, not, or door dashed my food to the house before I got there. So it literally timed it, like when it was, we are 20 minutes out and it takes about 20 minutes to get it delivered to the house. And so, but nobody thinks about like, what I, that's so convenient for me. That's so awesome. I'm so cool, it's so I'm so glad that we have this tool. But nobody thinks about

like what that what normally would have had to happen there. I would have had to get out of my car. I would have walked into a standing stand in line. I would have had to order. Then I'd have walked like it would have it would have caused more movement and activity. And we're we continue to eliminate that. But without thinking like what do I need to do to counter that? And then on top of that, now I did order something healthy that I had delivered to my house, but very easily it could have been in and out, or it being something that's just a calorie bomb.

And so not only am I not getting my ass up and moving to go get those, that food, but I'm also consuming an additional amount of calories in my center. The only way go get those, those, that food, but I'm also consuming, you know, an additional amount of calories and it's, it's strong is through struggle. And it's like we're eliminating all the struggle and everything in our lives to make everything. And it seems like it's awesome,

but now that's gonna be like the new prior date. It's like, well, how do we, like, how do we like create struggle now that's gonna help us to like stay strong? So that is it? In Spartan. I mean, we laughed about this why we were up there. Like, that shit would have never happened 15, 20 years ago.

No. I mean, we would have laughed that way. Definitely not 50 years ago. Yeah, definitely not 50. Yeah, maybe 15 of them is what maybe when it began, right? When the internet started to really hit, but before the internet, like, we all would have been like, this is a stupid idea.

You want me to go, wait, you want me to pay you to go get fucking dirty and run through fuck over obstacles like yeah. No, it's cool. I'm cool, bro. Yeah. You guys are familiar with the Guinness Book of World Records. Of course. I mean like how many more categories can they create that is just my question to you guys.

So what's the newest? Well, no, so this article I ran across, they're talking about all these people that broke records for the Guinness Book of World Records, like doing a marathon, and it was all based off of like what costume they're wearing. Like so, the furthest you ran. The furthest anybody's run as Lucille Ball.

You know, we're in a shit emoji. You know, I'm just like, like, what? Like why are we giving awards to this? Like how, like, I was trying to think of my mind, okay, we need to do this. Like, we need to create almost like Robin Big did this. Yes. He did it with the skateboard thing. We can totally do it for podcasting. Yes. Let's figure that out and get on Guinness World Records. The longest podcast. The most f-bombs in a single. Yeah. I think we already have that record.

We just the longest podcast. Like I'll do it all in like a gorilla suit and Adam, you know, you figure it out, you know, you were kind of an anesthesia. Doug said I looked it up. Doug, you got to look up podcast Guinness World Records. Sal, do it on your underwear. Yeah, the longest episode ever or something like that. It might already be some things that we get?

We just need to look at it, then we need to go break them up. That's what Robin Big did. He broke that all of them, and most of them, he's like, oh, we could, I can break that. I can do that. Kick flips, I could do that all day. I can break that. I think they did like,

it was like, fizz. Shuggling like three objects is like, yeah. Have you seen the world records for like pushups? Have you seen the pushups that they do? It's not. they're ugly. Yeah, big, big, big, big, big. It's like, they're coming. You really can't fall extension.

I mean, it's hard. Try, don't get me wrong. I think there's like thousands of them someone did in a row, but it's not really a full, it's not a pushup. Yeah. It's like a little bouncy bounce. That's wack.

Yeah, that's kind of stuff. That shouldn't count. At one point, Jack Elaine had the world record for pushups and pullups. Thousand each. Wow. He said it when he was 54 to a thousand pull ups 54 without a

piece the goat. No, it was it was for Yeah, so he would go back and forth in like an hour or something. I don't remember what it was But it was a thousand each and that record stood for how how do he swam across was the English channel with like carrying a boat Tuck, but with his teeth. Yeah, handcuffed. No, not the English channel. It was Chamsisco. Yeah, it was from the back. It was the bag. But it was handcuffed with his mouth.

You know, that guy would actually watch that video. That guy was so far ahead of his time. Oh, wow, look at that. The longest podcast ever, 52 hours. We could beat that. We could beat that. Oh, it was a live stream. Oh my God.

It's a live 52 hour sound. As long as we take turns stream. Oh my God. It's long. 52 hours, so. As long as we take turns, like, there's three of us. Three of us. Longer than two days, we had to keep that going. That's the three of us. Just not sleeping for that. We know it's not.

No, one of us goes to sleep, the other two keep going. We just circle, we go around. Fucking boom, we got it. We could do that and like bring people on to keep care. That was a vow, and you get to find other ones, that's how terrible I was. I don't want to try and break that one. Yeah, let's save that one.

No, but so Jack Alain, he did this when he was for a 70th birthday. He turned 70. He got a boat, seven little tug boat, not tug boats, row boats, with 10 people in them. Or it was either 10 boats with seven people or seven boats with 10 people. So 70 people, he pulled it from Alcatraz to shore.

So to San Francisco Bay, with his teeth, his hands and legs shackled, swimming like a fucking dolphin. At 70 years old, watch the YouTube video, it exists. Wow. It's insane. He's insane. Jacqueline was the most, he's the man. We know one of the most brilliant things that he used to take a page out of,

we talk about Al Dowa, FRC and things like that like he was notorious for getting up and moving like every joint in his box Even the silly part do you see the wrist? Yeah warm-ups. Yes. It was so funny watching it But I'm like yeah, there's some benefits of that fucking either was dude I mean just the way the way he did things was really really brilliant I saw him just definitely a pioneer in our space. There he is, look at that. Look at all, you can watch all these things. How old was he there when he did that one?

So it's 1955, right? Yeah, that's it. He did it a bunch of times. Oh my God. This is not the first time he's ever, just not the first time he did it. Yeah, I thought he actually did a tugboat. No, not a tugboat, robots.

Yeah, robots. Jesus, a tugboat. That's what I thought he did. No. Are you sure? You know, it's funny. This is like the legends that just keep growing. Oh,boat, robots. Yeah, robots. Jesus, a tugboat. That's what I thought he did. No. Are you sure? You know, it's funny. This is like the legends that just keep growing. Yeah, exactly.

As we keep telling, you know, anyway, we gotta look at it. Well, thankfully we do have videos of it, so that's pretty rare. I saw him when he was 90, he got the Lifetime Fitness Award at one of the Arnold Classics I was at, and he goes up to get the award, and the audience is just a standing ovation. They wouldn't stop clapping, so we couldn't talk. So he moves away from the podium. He's 90 years old, gets down on the floor and does one arm push.

You know who'd be funny interviewer? Like his son or daughter, how old is his kids? I don't know. That's a good question. Look that up, that would be a cool person interview to talk about what it was like to be the child of Jack Lillain. I don't know if I, you want to be his kid? I have.

I have. I have to. You'd be like, I'm a failure. I only did 700 push ups. I mean, I'm a loser. I'm a loser. I don't know. I think he made I think he made health and fitness kind of fun and cool.

I think that if you're a kid of his, you probably picked up a lot of, there you go. You guys got four kids. Let's reach out. Let's get two daughters and two sons. John Lillane, Daniel Lillane, Janet Lillane, and Yvonne Lillane. I would love to look up and see, let's see who the, what would be the most compelling.

He was only five foot six. Wow. Yeah, he was a little guy. Doug, can you look up all of the records that Jack Lillane set? I would like to see, because maybe I'm wrong, you know, I hope I'm not wrong about the thing that I said about him being 70 and doing that yeah you know I feel like it was a tugboat

Hard it would be a very hard I that's what I thought you but you might be right it might be how the Telephone game you be swimming by time I finally got to imagine just gets exaggeratedited. He's swimming in place with a tugboat. Jesus Christ, bro. Oh, no, man. Thousands of bags in the water. That's not gonna go anywhere. I don't know what you get at moving, it would move. No, he is in the water. Yeah, I bought his juicer a long time ago.

Oh, here we go. Here we go. He's big in space. He swam from Alcatraz to Fisherman's War from San Francisco, O'Learing handcuffs. At 42, he set the world record for pushups by doing over 1,000 in 23 minutes at 45 you did 1000 jumping jacks and 1000 pull-ups in one hour and 22 minutes at age 60 he swam from Alcatraz the Fisherman's War for the second time this time. He not only wore handcuffs

for the second time. This time he not only wore handcuffs, he towed a 1,000 pound boat at 60. I was 10 years wrong. So, and fuck! A thousand pound boat, that's a lot. Yeah, that's not a tow boat. That's not a tow boat. No, no, no.

Bro, it's 60 years old. Yeah. Well, hey, you know what this gives me hope. Like, I haven't hit my peak yet. Yeah, you know what I mean? I got an 800 pound deadlift in me still. I just gotta keep training. Damn, dude.

I mean, keep it up. Super impressive. So you guys, we'll finish off this little intro with some interesting economic news. Oh, sweet. Ford prepares for mass layoffs after losing one billion. Oh, really? To the trade tariffs.

That's too bad. Yeah, this whole tariff trade war, which now is affecting the markets big time. I don't know if you guys have been following the stock market, but it's been, that's too bad. It's been a downward tear. It has been bulletproof even through the whole

bailouts and all that. They ever wanted a few that didn't need a bailout. No, do you expectable? This trade war, first of all, China's markets are getting hammered. Our markets are also starting to get hit, but China's are getting hit a little harder. So it's gonna become this kind of war of attrition.

And this is what I thought. I think Trump's using this as a way to negotiate with China. Here's the problem. I was having this discussion today with my cousins who are all into investments and stuff. They're like, oh, you know, the trade war sucks and we're losing money, but China's losing more, therefore we're winning. And I try to explain to them,

I'm like, that's a communist country. They can hold out as long as they want. Because they don't give a fuck about their people. Yeah, exactly. And they don't have to succumb to pressures to political pressures. See, right now, Trump, doing this, it's easy to attack them if you're on the left, right?

You can attack them for his tariffs and say it's stupid, it's bad business and we're losing jobs. And if the tariffs start to hit the economy more and more, it could definitely get to the point where people will then a politician will give them a reverse it. Hey, I was at the game last night

and I overheard, at the Warriors game, these two guys talking about the polls. And I heard that the hours the polls were open are like these weird ass like nine to four range. Do you know anything about that? I have no idea. I don't know.

I do absentee ballot. So you can just have it mailed your house. Doug, would you look up the times for the poll election polls and see what? This is for the midterm elections coming up. Yeah, and see what it is. I'm curious yeah i i thought that was fact usually what happens when you have a big sweep from one side like uh... when obama first got elected you know he he was the office of the democrat in congress and you know the house went to the left also then the midterm

elections usually goes in the opposing direction. This has happened for the last, I don't know how many presidents were. If the president's a Republican midterm elections favors the opposite side and vice versa, I actually like that because it's a nice checks and balances to be honest.

If the midterm elections come across and this time and the Republicans dominate, this will be crazy. So we're one of the first times it's happened a long time, and that'll give Trump, it'll embolden the shit, I don't want to get him. What do you think is gonna happen? So here's the funny thing, I don't know what to trust anymore because when Trump got elected, almost every poll said

that he was gonna get obliterated. So this is kind of weird, it's kind of interesting right now. And the game that the life... I think a lot of that is because there's a lot of people I think that silently support him. Oh, I think in blue states for sure. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think there's a lot of ghost followers of Trump.

I think there's a lot of people that don't want to admit like they like a lot of the things that he's doing because then that means you have to attach yourself to a lot of the stupid shit that he says. And so there's a lot of people that are undercover about it. That's the feeling I get. Well, I don't know.

I mean, it's an interesting, it's interesting. So for the last, I don't know, four presidents or so, midterm elections go in the opposite direction of whoever the president is or whatever party they belong to. So this would be the first time in a while if it did go to, if the Republicans remained, you know, the majority. If it does, doesn't that show like he's gonna dominate, right?

Oh my God. I mean, the like, he could still win, even if it goes the other way. Oh yeah, as a president. Right, that's what I mean. But if Congress remains, remains you know republican majority that's gonna be a very strong signal uh... and you know what the economy is done pretty well we've got the tariffs

now that we're causing some some turmoil trump uh... is a very divisive uh... you know president you can't split people quite a bit but so did a bomb on sort of bush so i don't know it'll be pretty interesting polls are interesting man i don't know how I trust them anymore Yeah, you know, I also saw I also saw a smoker at last I saw Order of man that opposed and it was a picture of like this huge crowd of people marching towards the border Did you see that? Yeah, what's that all about?

There's just carols and there's this caravan of of immigrants from I think it's from Honduras Maybe Doug can look it up, who basically just went through Mexico, they couldn't stop them and they're on their way to the American border. And so Trump is sending the National Guard over there to stop just this flood of immigrants. It's an interesting situation. Is that what we remember? That's what I'm saying. Is it happening right now?

Like, where are we at with that? I don't know. It's weird though. How did they? Here's what strips me out. How are they able to? How is these people able to travel so far and feed that? I mean, thousands and thousands of people. How are they able to do that? Over 7,000. 7,000. So somebody's feeding them and kind of, you know what I mean? Like, how did they get through Mexico? I don't know. I don't know. They are all the same idea at once. I don't know. I don't know much about this. They all have the same idea at once. I don't know. I don't know much about this. What's going on?

So we'll see what that, yeah, Central American immigrants. And they're just going through, I don't know, man. It's kind of crazy, right? Yeah, it's very interesting. I mean, it's, it's almost, I mean, it's kind of scary to see what's going to happen with that. Like, what, how that's all going to play out?

I feel bad for, I don't know what the crowd has made up of if there's children in there. Oh, yeah. I mean, nobody wants a sceney, yeah, unnecessary violence or anything. No, no, and it could have turned that way. I mean, when you have 7,000 people, that's the thing. If they try to put you through, it can't stop them.

It's inevitably, that's probably what's going to happen. I know, right? It's terrible. And also, here's another thing, politically speaking, who's this going to favor? Is it going to favor the Democrats who are more for more open borders or is it going to favor the Republicans or more for close? I think if this turns into, it depends on how this results. If this results in a lot of innocent people getting hurt and stuff like that, it could

make it look bad for the Republicans. If on the other hand, their view is being violent or whatever, then it maybe it could look better for the Republicans. If on the other hand, their viewed as being violent or whatever, then it maybe it could look better for the Republicans. Depends on the temperature of the country when it happens. I don't know. Interesting. This quaz brought to you by Organifi. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition,

Organifi fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Alright, the first question is from Priming Glory. I used to hate the renegade push-up because I misunderstood its intention as an Anti-rotational movement. What other movements have misrepresented intentions? I think I think what he's just trying to say is like, you know, there's a lot of exercises out there that I think I mean even as a trainer

I remember teaching movements and not really Realizing the intent. Yes, the intent and the real benefits of what I should be focusing on. A good example that I think we just covered this on a podcast was the bird dog or the quadripe. Yes. That was a staple exercise that I think we were all taught and the drawing maneuver. The drawing maneuver, opposite arm, opposite leg or or the quadruped, whatever you wanna call it, was an exercise that we kinda went through the motions

but I never really understood how important that movement is and when you train it with the correct intent, how beneficial it can be, but then also the counter to that, how worthless it can be when not done properly. And you understand that you see a lot of these movements that started out in its pure form to address a lot of anti-rotation and check up on that. And I see that all the time and that's why I get so irritated with these hit workouts where

they construct, like back to back to back, you know, exercises, and then you do it to fatigue, and it just gets really sloppy now, and I hand, I've also seen that with like a shoulder touch out of like an extended plank, where people start to rock with it, and their whole body turns with it and rotates, where it's supposed to be nice and firm, and your hips are not supposed to rotate,

and that is part of, you know, the intent of the exercise. So, first let's touch on what anti-rotational movements, what the intention is, what the anti-rotational movement. The intention is the movement itself creates force that makes your body, I don't know why I said that. Make sure your body. It's a botty, like it was an accident. So we need to go potty.

It's a mushroom potty. Like, was it accident? Oh, somebody need to go potty. It's a mushroom potty. Oh, potty. Oh, here we go. It makes your body want to twist and rotate, but your muscles prevent that rotation, your stability prevents that rotation. And that's an important, very important, physical skill to have because there's, you know, especially in sports, but even in moving and walking and running, there's, you know, especially in sports, but even in moving and walking and running, there are, you know, forces that make your body want to twist and you have to have muscles that stabilize and prevent your body from twisting.

So that's the intention of anti-rotational movements. But here's a great example. I'll give you a very basic example of movements that are when the intention is wrong, the movements lose their value. Give you a great example. If I take 10 resistance training exercises, now the intention of basic resistance training exercises should be to build strength. That's what they do. That's what they do better than anything else. But if I take 10 resistance training exercises,

put them all back to back, and with no rest, you go from one to the other, I've now, now I've done cardio. Now I'm doing cardio with resistance training exercises. So those exercises don't do what they're supposed to. Another great example is the way that plyometric exercises tend to get used in programming. Now plyometric exercises are fantastic.

If you do them properly, to improve your explosive ability, your ability to summon power in a very short period of time. But the way people tend to use them, and the way I see a lot of trainers use them, to do them. Yeah, they just do them over and over again, just to make you tired, in which case,

it's that the intention's gone. It's irrelevant to that. Now it's just cardio. And so it's important to know what exercises are really good for and to train them with their intention because you're going to get the most out of them. Otherwise, here's a deal. Why do plyometric exercises, if you're just trying to get someone really fatigued?

Why not just do something else that's safer? Like why do anti-rotation exercises, if you're not doing them with the intention of preventing your body from rotating? For example, with the renegade push-up, the idea is to row the dumbbell and to prevent your body from doing this crazy rotation and twist at the top, what you see with a lot of people. I got a great one, another great one that is we did one of our most viral, original YouTube videos, a plank.

How often do you see a plank done incorrectly? And again, defeating the purpose. Like I remember this too, the first time that it was really apparent to me was when we were, I don't know, Justin was with the staff, I think at this time. So we've got to be in like 2006-ish. And I did like a club wide plank goal for all the members,

all the clients of the trainers. So that was to see who could hold the longest plank. And so everybody had their clients at the end of their workout routines. Melanie and Ronnie really got into that. Right, remember that now, right? So it was a big deal. It was a cool thing.

It was great. So for those that are listening to their own gyms, this was a really cool thing that I did within my facility. And it was just, we talk a lot about the importance of building culture in a gym. This is a simple thing that you can implement or do. We did this whole club-wide thing and it was became this, and we had a leader board,

and you know, every, it seemed like every week, a new client was jumping the next person. Now the problem was when I saw it, you know, bird's eye view looking at it, was we had all these people that were just holding their body up for seven minutes and eight minutes, but they weren't holding a true, really, really good plank. And then it became like, oh shit, now how do we judge this for somebody who's holding it

like really well, like a really good plank for just three or four minutes, but then I got this other person who's arching or sticking their butt up and they're holding it for six or seven minutes and it was like, so you know, caution if you do this in your club to make sure that you have parameters around that because I didn't have parameters. I just assumed that the trainers would be teaching their clients proper form and then what I ended up seeing was a lot of my trainers weren't holding these clients to these, you know, really, really good plank form. So that's a great, it's an incredible exercise that everybody should be doing or

implementing into their routines. But I also see it being done wrong most of the time. And you know, I've, I'm actually like recently I've been spending a lot of time around like high, high level strength conditioning coaches. And I'm very impressed with the way that they handle a lot of like the intent of the exercises and that being where they start really reducing the purest mindset of like okay well, say for instance, like we're teaching a power clean or overhead snatch, where, you know, as far as like efficiency and being able to really like perform the exercise really well, but now getting the desired result

of like maximal force output out of that movement, maybe I just stick with something that's, you know, not gonna take them, it's not going to require quite as much skills as far as using a barbell, for instance, versus using a trap bar and getting the same exact explosivity out of it. But now my athlete has that and it carries over better and it's less risk on the wrists, it's less risk. So they weigh all these things out in terms of, you know, like being able to get maximal, like effort and output out of, you know,

the intent of what that exercise really trying to do, if that makes sense. How are they training a clean with a trap block? So it's that same movement in the explosivity out of the drive into the ground. You're just not cleaning it. You're just not cleaning it and coming all the way up with it Okay, I was so confused when you said that because I'm like how the fuck is you gonna do a clean? Yeah, in the middle of a Because I picture your listeners going like I'm gonna try that

Like a sandbag for instance, too like something like that where it's like you know, it's very Midline to the body. And so like, you know, your extremities, like the further out you go, obviously, you know, the risk goes up. So these are all things that, you know, you can sort of weigh in your program. And now that's a really good, that's a really good one that you just kind of glazed over right there that I could see. I would have never thought that too if I was training like a young athlete, instead of

trying to teach this young kid who whose proprioception is probably terrible, and he's mechanically never done something like this, and the sandbag is far easier to do that, because it is closer to your body, it is a smaller object, but you could still perform the same explosive movement as you would do with a barbell clean. That's actually really interesting.

That just learned something right now that I would have never thought to use that with a kid. Intention is everything when it comes to working out. That's actually really interesting. That just learned something right now that I would have never thought to use that with a kid. Intention is everything when it comes to working out. It's absolutely everything. I give the example of people when they go up for a run and they never run. Their intention in their mind is to run until they're exhausted and tired and they can't breathe anymore.

As a result of that, they run terribly and they develop all these bad patterns. They get their intention, which is to run till they fatigue, but as a result of that, they run terribly and they develop all these bad patterns. And they get their intention, which is to run till they fatigue, but as a result of their poor intention, they injure themselves. Versus, I'm gonna go out and learn how to run properly. That's my intention. And then I can run for much longer periods of time. I can run for months and months and years,

and not have injuries. So this is true for anything that you do with your workout. Go in there and understand what your attention is. Is the intention of this, and this is, look, our maps programs are designed around this. You know, the phases are intentions. We name them phases, but really they're intentions. So, you know, phase one of maps and a ballack, for example,

is strength. Your intention with your workouts for the first three weeks of that program is to get stronger. Your intention with the second phase of that program is to get stronger. Your intention with the second phase of that program is to build muscle. So the intention changes how you lift weights a little bit. The intention of the third phase of that program is to get a pump. So you change a little bit of how you work out in order to accomplish that objective. And of course, you could break it down to the more narrow, down to the

exercises themselves, and understand what the intention of this exercise is. I mean, look, if I'm doing a stabilization exercise or a balanced exercise, I'm going to treat it very differently than an exercise that's designed to build endurance, stamina, or one that's designed to build explosiveness, or one that's designed to build lots of strength. The intention is what should drive how you perform the exercise and how you should perform your workout. Next question is from FeebscrayK. Do you think foods marketed as low calorie

are contributing to normalizing binge eating behaviors? Foods such as halotop market the calories per whole tub of ice cream, therefore normalizing eating an entire tub. Do you think this is impacting our eating behavior? That's an interesting analogy. I'll tell you why, because I crushed a halo top two nights ago.

So I think, yeah, well, it's a 320 calorie thing. Point. It's a pint. How does that compare to like, it been in Jerry's pint? 1500 calories. There you go. So how's your stomach afterwards, by the way? Actually, okay on these ones because they make ones that are

Dairy free. Yeah, so that so we get a couple different brands. You know a good place to go is sprouts. Okay Go there. There's a whole bunch of life in the 300 calories for the dairy free version. Yeah, yeah, it ranges So I get I have a bunch of them, right? So I get all the, I like trying out different ones. Like 320 to, I think the highest, I think is 480. Okay. But all in that range. And with Justin's, to Justin's point,

yet Ben and Jerry's is between 1300 and 1500 calories. And so I have two opinions on this. Yes, I do agree that some companies are normalizing binge eating behaviors, and I think that these super highly palatable foods are just as dangerous as anything else, as far as like how you could just start consuming and then keep in the new E2, the new E3, the new E4. So, but then I also have what I went through, which is, and so I have a little bit more empathy, like okay, you know, I grew up not knowing any better

and eating fucktons of candy. And- That's a lot. Yeah, fucktons. I've measured it. Well, and fucktons is when you get beyond 10 years of like every day of your life. Like that's when I think it becomes fucktons before that. It's just a shitload. Oh

Shitload the fuck Is there a precursor to that? It's kind of like if you just kind to do it. That's so it's a big deal Okay, but then it goes to a shitloader than a fuck. We need like a ruler with that You know that's I know so yeah, so I had a fuck ton of ice cream and candy growing up and it wasn't until later in my life that I even could or I could even admit that I had this sugar addiction. And I think there's many people in the middle of that spectrum too. So I think I'm, again, the extreme, I was really bad, I had a ton of it.

Then I think there's a lot of people in the middle of that too. And so I know how much having an option like that helps someone like me, because I don't ever eat ice cream, hardly ever. And I know I just said I had a halo top two nights ago, but it would just happen to be because Katrina brought home a few of them in the refrigerator. And what's cool is in my house now,

something like that actually can last for weeks in there and I only will go in there and dip into it when I absolutely feel like I want something like that or I feel like I've kind of earned it. I'm high on my move it, I train really good, my calories are pretty low for the day. Okay, I deserve to have this treat and I wanna enjoy it, so I will.

And so that's why I like it, I like it because I am human. I still ice cream was I love ice cream. And so I want to be able to have that every once in a while and have balance in my life. And it offers me an option that I can eat without overdoing it with 15 because I could crush a Ben and Jerry's entire pint. So I but then again I see the flip especially half baked of the the younger generation that's coming up that is following the IFYM thing and they're scheduling in all these types of foods and they're eating all these things that have artificial sweeteners and dyes and things

like that. I just think, okay, I don't know if that's a great idea either if you find yourself consuming this on a regular basis. I think that's where it could definitely lead to poor behaviors and poor relationship with those. It's interesting that, because what, how do you classify binge eating? You know what I mean? Like, what does that mean? There is a classification for that.

Just like binge drinking or whatever. Yeah, I think it's, maybe Doug, you can look up what is considered binge eating? Yeah. Like what's the? What are the main offenders, like chips and ice cream? And I think it could be anything. Pizza. Yeah, anything that's hyper palatable to be.

That's like a super calorie bomb. Yeah. You know, waiting to happen. Yeah, and it's interesting. It's like, why do we eat to see the consumption of large quantities of food in a short period of time, typically seen as part of an eating disorder. Well, that doesn't really specify either that much.

I think, for me, binge eating is when you eat past the point of satisfied, you're satisfied when you eat to the point where you're uncomfortable. You know, at least that's what it is for me, which is really tough, though, for the average person to read this. Yeah, it is. It is because I think we haven't been, I almost think we're encouraged to eat this way. I know I was a kid.

Totally. When I was a kid, the question was, literally when you ate your dinner and you're done, do you have any more room in your stomach? So this is why, oh you're not super stuffed, I guess you're good. Okay, this is why, I mean, this is a really good point that you just reminded me of.

This is why I used to make all of my clients way measure and portion out their food. Not because I wanted them to live in a Tupperware life for the rest of their remainder of their life, is because I needed to teach them something. And I would get them used to eating these meals and the size that's portioned out for what their body needs. And they're eating out of like a Tupperware

or a small bowl or what that. So maybe they don't connect it that well until I would ask them to now pour it onto like a dinner plate and pay attention to the portion size that is keeping you satisfied. I'm having you get to eat every three hours. You're eating a nice balance meal like this. You feel fine as I've been asking you for the last weeks. Are you starving or you fool or you satiated. You're fine or and or some clients are full. I've had some clients I can't eat anymore. it's too much food you're asking me to eat. So once I make that connection

and then I show them what that portion size looks like, is you gotta become aware of that. You gotta become aware of about what my body needs to be, like you're saying, Sal, satiated or full, because if you rely on them signals that you're talking about, most people have learned to ignore those signals and over-consume. Well, think about it this way, satisfied.

What does that mean? I think people confuse the feeling of being full with being satisfied, but it's not the same thing. Satisfied comes before the feeling of being full. Now, if you start to confuse the two of them, then that's what you start to think is satisfied. Like, oh, I think I can fit more food. Therefore, they do.

So what it says here, Doug just pulled up a great site and it says binge eating is when you eat lots of quantity, quantities of food often very quickly into the point of discomfort, a feeling of a loss of control during the binge, experiencing shame, distress, or guilt afterwards, and not regularly using unhealthy compensatory measures to counter the binge eating.

So you're not purging. So you're just binging. And I know what this is like, where you literally eat and you feel like you're out of control and you eat to the point where after you're done, it's uncomfortable. You feel uncomfortably full. Now do I think marketers are encouraging that? Well, I mean, it's a, what is it? What is it called?

It's a positive feedback loop, right? It's sure they are. It's the same thing, that's their job though. You can't, we can't be mad. They want you to get through their products. That's exactly, I mean, it's, and that's what we want. The article that I was talking about just the other day

with Netflix, I mean, Netflix is doing the same thing with creating movies. They go in with the intention to make it binge worthy. They want you to watch. Now, does that mean that they, now are they thinking about the long-term effects of how many kids they can. Are they getting malicious in that in town?

Right. Yeah, they wanna make money. That's their intent. So it was Halo top. Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. It's a lot of like us blaming McDonald's and us blaming, you know, like certain food groups and companies and even though they're really

the ones supplying the demand. The demand is determining these things. I think that, yes, it has potential to be if somebody has a propensity towards binge eating. It could be another version of that. You just do the lower calorie version and then that condition they never really addressed it, but at the same time, in terms of it being a lower calorie option, if you'd rather prefer that versus you're going to go one or the other, it's a better option. I've had some success with clients with binge, when they binge a lot, just interrupting

the process. So I'll say, okay, make sure there's no, you're not watching TV, you're not on your phone. In between, when you take a bite, take a bite, put your fork down on the table, put your hands on the table, chew your food when you're ready to get the next bite, grab your fork, pick it up, put it in the food, and it just slows down and interrupts the process. And it sounds silly, it sounds really crazy, but for people who really have an issue with this, it becomes almost this, almost this, this like not fully aware state of mind

where at the end of their binging, they're like, oh my God, I just ate a whole box or I just ate the entire container. And so stopping that process, having them put down the spoon, put down the fork, put their hands on the table, chew, chew, chew, okay, ready for the next one, and it just makes them aware of what they're doing. Now a lot of people don't like to do that because part of the reason why we make ourselves unaware is because we want to be. We want to be unaware, we want to indulge in the drug-like effects of this food, and

sometimes we don't want to be aware of what we're doing to ourselves. And so when you tell people to slow down stop and pay attention, no, no, no, I don't want to because the reality is they don't want it. They really don't want it. Well, that's where I see a lot of these types of food groups. It's just catering to like, you know, coping. Like, this is how I feel good, you know,

for some psychological benefit, not for anything nutritionally that they're trying to see. And that's why you have to look at it like that. That's why I can see both sides of this, right? Because I can also see where this could lead to having them every single night still and justifying it because it's 1200 calories less. And so I think that's, you're still not addressing

the root cause, but then I also think that, hey, I think you can also be used as a nice tree and a better, a better option. Like if I'm just like, if I decide and this happens all the time for Katrina and I were like, hey, you know what? Like, we killed it this week. We crushed work. We worked out five times this week. We've been great on the diet. So that Friday night, let's have a treat. You know, and it's like, we're going to watch a movie and we're going to have a treat. And it's like something that we've agreed that we're going to do. Like I, and of course, we're gonna watch a movie and we're gonna have a treat and it's like something that we've agreed that we're gonna do. Like, and of course we try things like the Coco Whip with, you know, berries and strawberries and honey

and like, better treats like that. So those things have really helped me. And I don't know if that's because I'm somebody who battled sugar diction and now it still allows me to have these things every once in a while or just flat out, I wanna enjoy myself and then I don't wanna have to also have 1500 calories,

I've damaged it, I just... And here's a little hack and a little trick, by the way. If your food is not super hyper palatable most of the time, it doesn't take a whole lot to make you feel like you're eating something really awesome and delicious. Like if you don't need a lot of sugar, you eat some fruit that could definitely feel like a dessert. If you eat lots of sugar all the time,

fruits can taste very bland. So that's another way you can some fruit that could definitely feel like a dessert. If you eat lots of sugar all the time, fruits can taste very bland. So that's another way you can work around that. The irony of this, by the way, is the worst bingers I've ever worked with in my entire life, worked in fitness, always. It's almost every single time. People who work in fitness or compete on stage typically are terrible when it comes to binging. It's because they do the crazy restriction. The hyper restriction on top of that.

Yeah, the crazy restriction and then the reins are off. No competition. The iron is, it's really not that crazy because it's like they have addictive behaviors and they're addicted to fitness. That's what got them successful. They're addicted that they go to the gym seven days a week. They can't do anything without getting their workout in.

They train like crazy. They starve their body. They do all this crazy cardio. So they're addicted to that. And then they go to the eating, their off-season or whatever. And then they're addicted to that. You're just trading one behavior.

If we see this all the time with drug addiction when somebody goes through that and they break through the drug addiction, but now all of a sudden they're addicted to sex. They're addicted to gambling or something else that detaches them from reality. And it's just that you're not addressing the root cause. So I think that it can be something very detrimental, but I also think that it can be used as a tool. And it's up to us and it's your responsibility.

I don't want to point the finger on some company who, you know, their job is to make fucking money. And I think they're doing a great job by supplying something that everybody. A fuck ton of money. Yeah, fuck ton. Next question is from Julia Magg 99. How young is too young to lift weight?

Yeah, when people ask questions like this, you can't really give an answer because if a child has decent control, then they can lift weights, regardless of their age. So my answer usually is, there is no age limit. Now, does that mean you're going to see a lot of five-year-olds lifting weights? Probably not. I don't know very many five-year-olds that have the stability and control to be able to balance a, you know, one pound dumbbell above their head or do, you know, squats with good form and all that kind of stuff or with good stability the whole time.

So the answer really is, if the child has good control, if they show some interest, then there really is no age limit. And there are no, there is no dangers, by the way, if it's done safely, there is no danger to a child lifting weights. Yeah, there used to be a myth that you're going to stunt their growth yeah you're going to damage their growth plates i think that still exists by the way it does a lot of people believe that people that people need to know this well i mean yes if you're seven year old is snatching three hundred pounds over their head

they could potentially do some yeah the odds that your kid is going to be strong i'm impressed though i'm gonna be honest with. Seven years old. I mean, yeah, if your kid is maxing it, there's some just some basic general rules here. Like a majority of your training, okay, they should be doing, should be stability, focus, body weight focused. If you're doing any sort of weights, lifting actual barbells, dumbbells, things like that,

it should be light enough that they can do 15 to 20 repetitions. Like, control. Yeah, these are really just some general, yeah, slowly. There you go, that's a great one. So, you should put more energy and focus on slowing the repetition down than actually the amount of reps. That's even more important. So, one of the things I used to do if I had kids, it's like whether we're doing five

reps or 15 or 20 reps, it's like getting them to slow the weight down is really, really tough for them to do because they just haven't developed the proper obsession. You know, impressionable part of your development, you know, as far as like solidifying these good recruitment patterns. So that's really where the emphasis, like if I'm coaching like a kid, it's, I want to establish the best mechanics. I want to establish, yeah to establish the best mechanics. I want to establish the best control. That way, building on top of that process, load is literally the pinnacle of once you have all of that

established in the prerequisites ahead of time. If your kid looks like they're really getting through that process and they're accelerating in progress. Yeah, I'm, you know, go ahead, like add in some load and do it very, you know, progressively and, you know, do your due diligence with that and like make sure it's like planned out, but I don't see any problem. There's a little, you know, there's a little famous bodybuilder kid

that's going around. Yeah, I know, have you seen him? Little Hercules? No, no, that kid, that was a while ago. That was the old one, right? What's the kid's name? I know. Have you seen them? Yeah. Little Hercules. No, no, that was a while ago. That was an old one, right? Yeah, yeah. What's the kid's name?

I don't know what his name is, but he's shredded. Yeah, I'm trying to think of a remarkable thing. I just think that there's one thing. I remember Dr. Brett McKib brought this up, and we were talking about sports because there's, I mean, with kids, for me, I want them to experience as many different types of movement patterns as possible, and that's one of those things where if they can learn their body in so many different dimensions, and there's a lot of carryover to then once they start to specialize and to really hone into that specialization a little bit later in their development, that way

that they don't keep doing these repetitive patterns, because if they start doing these repetitive patterns too early, you know, their career actually ends up being shorter. Yeah, there's just Tristan Lee is his name out there. Yes, that's right there on the top left. How old is he? 15 in that picture. Oh, he's 15.

Yeah, so he was way younger than that when he started. You know, it's funny you say that about the repetitive patterns just because they'll take a kid and they won't even sneeze at having like they wouldn't even look twice at having a eight year old kid pitch overhand over and over and over and over and over again. Only so many pitches with the same year one arm. Yeah, with the with the right arm, but you know, take a take

a nine year old and have them start lifting weights with, you know, good control and good form and people freak out. I mean, the truth is done properly, resistance training is the best form of exercise, actually the safest. You get the most variable movement patterns that you can possibly get. And now it has to be done, of course, properly and appropriately.

And the thing with kids is this, I've trained a lot of kids and you get them to hold something above their head or balance a dumbbell or a barbell and it's just all over the place. So a lot of it is on them learning their bodies and then of course kids grow fast and because they grow fast they never fully get that to start over again. Yeah, their balance and stability is never as good as when they're done growing and then they can get used to and learn their body.

If in a perfect world, if I was building the most superhuman kid, he would hear she would go through gymnastics first and then move into weight training. Because the foundation that they'll build in gymnastics is the carryover to that. You know who's a great example of that is, celeb me. Yeah.

You know, celeb me is an incredible example of, and look the way he moves. He moves so fluidly and then when you see the amount of output that he does for his eyes, he's I can't think of can you think of someone that we know personally that's more unassuming than him? In terms of no, not at all. Right. Like of the his size and instead like you would never get that he would just bury

everybody in here and deadlifting squatting name it whatever name your Move in your movement and he's significantly smaller than all of us. Yeah, that all relates to just being able to control the Force you produce and also the you know the force you resist like like both of those things matter and so it's all in the intent the control Supporting the joints like all that comes with that near muscular connection. You're gonna start seeing more structured workout, actual workout programs for kids, I think, in the future. Just because kids don't play anymore, they don't go outside and do stuff anymore.

And so it's gonna become much more nested. Like, you know, look, you go back 60 years, 70 years, a lot of adults weren't working out in gyms because every day was working out. You know, your work was very physical, everything you did was more physical. Gyms became more popular as we became more sedentary and of course as we became wealthier.

And now children are so sedentary and it wasn't a problem before. This wasn't an issue for kids up until recently. Like you never had to tell kids to work out or move. I mean, when I was a kid, if you got in trouble, your mom made you stay inside the house. Today, if kids get in trouble, they make you turn off the electronics and go outside.

It's a completely, it's been flipped on its head. And so I think we're gonna see, it's totally different. I mean, go outside, go outside to any neighborhood, go pay attention to how many kids are outside playing. When I was a kid, the neighborhood was like, you couldn't even drive your car down the street. Because kids had to move out of the way and it was just crazy.

Now it's like, my kids sometimes I'll go outside and I'll tell them, hey, go outside, go play a little bit and they'll come back and they'll say, there's nothing to do. Yeah, there's no one at home. And I look outside, I look outside and I see nothing. There's nobody out there to play. So it's very different.

And I think structured exercise is gonna be much more a part of what we're gonna have kids do in the future. For sure. Absolutely. Next question is from four pillar life. Thoughts on all the masterminds that promise to level up life and business. The real deal or bullshit.

I like who picked this one. This is a nice, we're gonna see a backlash. You just gotta keep getting after these, because I see them everywhere. The thing is becoming now, if you have a following on social media platform, you'll have 100%. Now, once you have a following,

the way to make money is to create these masterminds. It's like, and teach other people to do that. I feel about it the same way I feel kind of about supplements. If you've got the money to throw away and to use them and stuff like that, and it helps create better habits and, you know, habits for training and dieting for you, then spinning, you know, $300 on your supplement stack every week by all means, go ahead and do it, but don't think that it's the answer, right,

for your real results. That's how I feel about the mastermind groups. I think there are, if there's things about it that because you've invested $10,000 in it, therefore you're gonna take the practices that you're learning and apply them, like, okay, sure, why not? Yeah, I just see problems in the fact that I think, you know, a lot of it is, is people perceive it

as like a massive shortcut, you know, to become like sort of 10x your business by, you know, applying like, when you could, like going through the process of it, you learn so much more and you tweak things and individualize things to what really applies to your very specific business. Sure, you're going to be able to learn, I think, you know, from your mentors and peers. And if you need to pay for it, that makes sense to me. But like, you could learn so much by, you know,

collecting people or like being more involved and being better at networking than just going right to paying for somebody to. I just think people have a lot of more hope going into it than they should. I think most of them are bullshit. I think the vast majority of them are garbage. I think we're in the era of the quote-unquote influencer, the person who, the good looking whoever, or charismatic whoever, who has all these people following them. All of a sudden now is giving advice. I, you know, there's people that I see on social media that will give advice on like sex and relationships.

And I know some of these people, like you should not be giving any advice on shit like this. You should be not giving advice on life coaching when you're a fucking 28 year old who still hasn't figured out your own life. I think it's, most of it is bullshit. I think it's just a way,

and there's gonna be a backlash soon. At some point, saying that you go to a mastermind or telling people about your masterminds is gonna be like telling people to sign up for your multi-level marketing. You know, like, remember, that's what's gonna be like. I agree with that. And the same way it still exists because we know that MLM

is still extremely popular and there's lots of people to do it and there's still people that actually still swear by it. But I think that's a really good analogy. I think it'll be like that. I think there's going to be pushback on it. I don't like hating on it because there's got to be some people. I know there are some people that have gone to mastermind groups and it was what they needed, right?

It was what they were missing. And I don't know if that's because this person is super unorganized or they had no clue about their direction or whatever, but something was said or delivered in this mastermind group that was what that person needed to hear at that time. And that then translated into them kicking their business up and going, but what I see the majority, when you see people tell me they found it beneficial, most of them, if not all of them, will reference the networking of the people that were there. So because you also, because you had, you know, 5,000 to 10,000 plus, some of these are ridiculous, that you pay for to go to this event, most of the people that can afford to invest in that

have somewhat of a business going. And so they have somewhat of a following and network already for themselves. And they have a thousand, so it's common to see people within the thousand to 20,000 follower, you know, it ends up paying for these mastermind groups. If you're your, your, so you've already built somewhat of a network of people and you're trying to reach that next level for the six figure, seven figure mastermind.

You know what this is, right? Okay. These are, these are small level celebrities. So people with Instagram, they're not like huge celebrities, but they've got followings. And then their fans, what they're doing is they're figuring out a way to maximize the amount of money that they can generate from their fans.

Now, rather than selling a product to their fans, what they're selling is, come hang out with me and come learn from me. And some of these people will follow, you see someone on Instagram with 300,000 followers. Some of these, a few of these 300,000 followers that they have are hardcore fans. And you give them the opportunity to spend 10 grand

to come and hang out with you for a weekend. A lot of people will pay that. It's the same old archaic business model of the paid wall, right? Obviously they're not giving you enough value then free wise in terms of what they're actually doing on a day to day basis with you. Like that's why, I don't know,

we're taking the opposite approach to that to give everything in way for free and then base it off of real products and things people are looking for. But I look at that old models for as like the paid wall, even with certifications, even with all that stuff is gonna get disrupted. That's just the old way of doing business.

We've had people approach us and tell us, oh you guys, you know, your fans at Mind Pump, if you guys did a weekend and charged 15 grand, for sure you'd have fans that would come hang out and listen to you guys and yes, and that might happen, but it doesn't feel right to me. It really doesn't feel right.

Am I providing, what kind of value am I providing to that person?, but it doesn't feel right to me. It really doesn't feel right. Am I providing, what kind of value am I providing to that person? And maybe that's not for me to determine. That's for the person spending the money. It just has to be like really high value if you're gonna charge. It just has to equal it, I think.

And I think there's some, I think there are some masterminds where you do get a lot of value. I do think there are. And you learn a lot, but I think most of them, you're gonna go there and they're gonna tell you shit and that you could learn for free online, there's really nothing there. And I think maybe like what Adam says,

if it gives you a kick in the ass to get your butt moving, then maybe it's worth it. But honestly, they're everywhere, they're exploding all over the place. The reason why they're exploding is because masterminds are teaching people how to create masterminds. So they're leaving these masterminds.

They're creating their own masterminds. And you're gonna see this bubble pop. You can also just start reading all the books that they probably read. That's what I'm saying. I mean, this is also why I share the books that I read too. Because again, this is kind of where we, the way our business model was, exactly what Justin said was, we know that the paid wall and that, that's going to die. All that stuff is going to die.

And so the theory was, we're going to give so much valuable free content that as a byproduct people will feel like they want to support us. And what do we do best? Well, we're known for programming. That's if we were to say if we're experts at anything, that's what we feel we're experts in is programming. So that's what we're going to live. We know that you can Google and get online and find a free program or a free workout We're not stupid But we know that by all the amount of information that we've provided for free that a lot of people end up would end up doing that just as a I feel like I owe you this one. It's to me it's such a smarter business model for long term Then trying to find ways that you can squeeze as much money out of your audience

as possible. And that's something that I don't think we would ever do because of that, because the masterminds are like that. But if we ever did want it, it would be a wonderful way to do it. But I mean, if you want to learn this stuff, I'll tell you right now, read the books that I post. I have, you know, I still have Adam's library hashtag where every book that I've read since we've started this business, I've posted,

and I think the last time I looked at my like ratio of like, because I like psychology and neuroscience and somewhat of self-help books every now and then, like, but a majority of what I read are business books, almost everything I read. I think it was a good like 70% of the books that I'm reading are that. So you know, that's where all the information and knowledge comes from that really drives a lot of the things that we're doing business-wise. If you want to learn what, you know, whoever it is that has a mastermind, find out what the fuck they're reading. Because I guarantee they're taking, if I were to run a mastermind group, it's exactly what I would do. I would take all the learned knowledge that I have from all these fucking

books, and I would piece it together in order that makes sense to present it on how I think people would receive it or best learn it. So the shortcut would be to, not the shortcut, it would take longer to get to read it, but the path is to read the books that they're reading and get the information for yourself for about a tenth of the price. Less than a tenth. I know some of these masterminds are in the tens of thousands of dollars.

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