Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 899: Why CrossFit Athletes Have Muscular Bodies, When to Superset for Maximum Gains, the Healthiest Vegetables to Eat & MORE

Episode Date: November 10, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the most important vegetables to... eat, why non-professional CrossFit athletes have very muscular bodies, when to superset and what to do when someone has lost their motivation to work out. Mind Pump Karaoke Night and the fear of putting yourself out there. (5:02) The Shock and Awe approach re-visited. The guys reflect on their first 100 episodes. (7:45) How Adam treats his Camaro as an investment rather than hobby.  (9:52) The guys reflect on the business, their passion and how the time has flown by. (14:52) Sal making friends with the homeless guy in the parking lot & how to tackle the homelessness problem. (18:25) Take some Ned and go straight to bed. (25:33) Girl Scouts Of The USA Files Suit Against Boy Scouts Of America. (29:29) The evolution of sports, a player’s value and how the market reflects the times. (31:11) How the future of sports will be digital. (38:30) #Quah question #1 – What are the best and most important vegetables to eat? (42:53) #Quah question #2 – If circuit training sends the wrong signal, then why do non-professional CrossFit athletes have very muscular bodies? (56:28) #Quah question #3 – When to do a superset and what are the best ones? (1:06:55) #Quah question #4 – What to do when someone has lost their motivation to work out? (1:16:20) People Mentioned: Craig Capurso (@craigcapurso)  Instagram Brendon Ayanbadejo (@brendon310) Instagram Terry Wahls MD (@drterrywahls)  Instagram Greg Glassman (@CrossFitCEO)  Twitter Links/Products Mentioned: November Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!!  **Code “WHITE50” at checkout** Ned **15% off first purchase** Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Natural cannabinoid found to play key role in anxiety Girl Scouts Of The USA Files Suit Against Boy Scouts Of America Average sports salaries by league 2017/18 The Average Player Salary And Highest-Paid In NBA, MLB, NHL, NFL And MLS Former stars explain why NFL players go broke, and what you can learn Mind Pump Episode 887: The Fastest Growing Sport in the World with NRG Esport Co-Founder Andy Miller MAPS Fitness Products Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Free Resources PRx Performance **Code “mindpump” for 5% off plus free MAPS Prime on orders of $500 or more**

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Hey you guys. What's up Sal? Well you know that I would never... I love you too. ...give you up, let you down, run around.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Give you up, never gonna run. Say goodbye, tell all I want right here. Say gonna let you down say goodbye. Tell me. I say goodbye. I hurt you. Yeah, did you guys see me Rick Roll? Everybody I'm gonna keep. Never gonna give never gonna give. Did you see me Rick Roll? Oh, answer story.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody forgets about the Rick Roll. Oh, it was beautiful. Never that. That was the, uh, it was like a automated response. People say, yeah, also don It was a thing for a second. Also, don't forget, in this episode of Mind Pump. What?
Starting point is 00:00:49 Booming, boom. For the first 38 minutes, that was a weird way to make it. Boom, boom. There's a being in there. There's a being, boom, boom, boom. Adam talks about karaoke and the price each has paid for Mind Pump. Oh, he dug that on air. He put that on there.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I thought that was me just bitching before. Yeah! No, no. Who doesn't want to see that? Listen, I don't want to sing as much as you don't want to sing, but I want to see Justin sing. I don't think that's true. I trust me. I want to see both these scenes. So stop it. That's the thing, bro. If you sing, I'll sing. All right. Yeah. I'm gonna throw our panties at Justin sweet. Then Adam talks about his Camaro. That's right, ladies. He's got the six of bitch and super sport Camaro that he doesn't fucking drive, but it's a hot, it's literally the car that I'm...
Starting point is 00:01:30 That's the only time people use bitch and... Bitch and Camaro. It's bitch and stuff. Then we talk about the homelessness in San Jose. There's a homeless person that lives in our parking lot. I'm gonna try and make friends with them. Yeah, what's going on there? Give them some chips.
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Starting point is 00:02:19 suing the Boy Scouts. What? Tour Force. What the hell's going on here? Professional sports salaries, we do a little speculation there, and then I give my input on the future of sports. This happens to be my expertise. Wow, yeah, talking about sports.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Souster, dumbos again. Then we get into the questions. The first question was, what would we say are the best and most important vegetables to eat? Which vegetables? Which vegetables are the most important vegetables to eat. Which vegetables. Which vegetables are the most important ones to eat. We give our opinions. And of course, we mentioned the Organifi Green Juice,
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Starting point is 00:03:10 The next question was, look, if circuit training sends the wrong signal to your body, then why do we see these CrossFit athletes that are all super buffed and muscular? What's the deal? Are you guys a little bit lying? So we talk about that a little bit and Justin goes off on Cross guys a little lying? So we talk about that a little bit and Justin goes off
Starting point is 00:03:25 on CrossFit a little bit. I'm not even going to apologize. It doubles down. The next question was when should you do a superset and what type of superset is best and for what reason supersets are when you combine two exercises back to back for a particular goal. We love using supersets in the third and fourth phases of our maps programs. We break down the science in that part of this episode and the last question.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Have any of us ever gone through a period where we lost our passion and motivation for working out and any advice on getting it back? I tell you what, if you're unmotivated right now and you hate working out, invest in a maps program, they are phenomenal. It's expert exercise programming. In fact, somebody really smart made those.
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Starting point is 00:04:54 number 50, no space at checkout for 50% off. Go check it out. If this is it, this is it. Please let me know. Hey, I just want you to know that like, I'm like, I'm the guy who does like, is open to putting himself out there all the time and this whole singing idea of karaoke is like a total and you better not Are fucking you talking to me? Yeah, I'm talking to you
Starting point is 00:05:31 Mr Slow down. I'm talking to you slow mode of the mic just as done as transformation put his fat belly out there I got her on blast I got on stage and pranced around in a fucking man, Keeney Don't say and we're coming at you,. Been came a mobility guy after I didn't know what the fuck, anything about that. I want Sal to learn something. I think he had, you have to be super great.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Wait, wait, wait, you really think that I'm comfortable with singing at karaoke? I think you're a lot more comfortable than I am. I guarantee you, I'm not. I guarantee you. No, the only reason why I want to do it, first of all, is I want to see Justin in his element because that's the beautiful. And we'll be drunk. And we in his element, if that's see you get it. Beautiful.
Starting point is 00:06:05 And we'll be drunk. And we'll be drunk. And that's why it'll be funny. That's true. But no, dude, I'm not comfortable getting on. I've never done anything like that in my life. It's not about you being more comfortable. It's the fact that you're putting me
Starting point is 00:06:19 in the least comfortable position. Is that really the worst thing for you? It would be up there. For us to go to sing. It could be up there, yeah. Really? I can't think of. I can't think of something. No, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I'm fucking sport like that, man. I'm game. Let's do this. I mean, I just want to see Justin rock out, man. I thought that would be, oh, that's way too much fun. That would be so funny. I mean, keep playing it.
Starting point is 00:06:42 I mean, standing. I think we, as far as media is concerned, let's be quite honest, we're gonna get very little of you and I, Adam, that would be usable. No, I don't know. I don't know why. There's a certain amount of like, that looks, oh my god, that's terrible and funny.
Starting point is 00:06:56 And then after about three, five seconds, people will want to change. So I don't think, I think if people like train wrecks, most of it will be, most of it will be Justin, just being sexy Pro you you can try and you can try and wrap this up as much as you possibly can and try and sell it fucking at the end of the day The onslaught of shit. I'm gonna get it. It's gonna be it's gonna be just as bad when I have to stand on stage half naked and people look Niff is judge my calves like it's just as bad. It's putting yourself out there. That's what it is. Oh, yeah
Starting point is 00:07:25 I'm amazing guys feel about put that picture out again, and where you're like grab my nipple and I'm fucking You know like super fat. Oh What's the sound that that picture makes it's just it's just very much like a Like your wife will be mad at you. She'll be mad. She hated that picture Yeah, well, we all paid the price a little bit with mine pump. We did, we have. I mean, I've taken our shots. You lost a wife. I got the, I got the, I got the, I think you've taken the hardest.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Yeah, that's all, that's all. You know what, oh shit, we just, yeah. We just lost our argument right there. Although that could have been a thing that helped him too. Let's be honest. Oh, I mean, it's, it's definitely a good thing, of course, but, but, but it was definitely the strong it was the impetus that caused the ultimate bandaid that hurt
Starting point is 00:08:10 Yeah, could you imagine having to go through that still nope That would just be fucking it wouldn't work. I don't want you to know Although you know people like Craig Capurso think that it's it that it's way less worse now today than it was then. So maybe it was way harder then because of the shit that we were talking about. Oh, we were terrible. Right. I mean, it takes it. It would take a special person to be okay. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. We don't talk about that. You know, what's crazy is that half the audience listening right now, more than half, has not, never heard the first 100 episodes.
Starting point is 00:08:49 The first 100 episodes have less, have 50% less downloads than anything that we do now. It's a little weird. Thank God. I mean, it's like, yeah, cause it's a timeline. It's like a origin of all of us. I'd rather not like tell people about those episodes and encourage them to listen. No, they're like really bored doing it. It caught up. I'd rather not let like tell people about those episodes and encourage them to listen.
Starting point is 00:09:05 No, we're like really bored. We don't think we can get caught up. I had never do. We weren't that good. We dealt with it. We had good chemistry and stuff. And we were fucking balls out. We were just ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:09:15 It was a competition to see who could be the worst. You know what I mean? Shocking all of us to approach. It was shocking. And there was a lot of love. It'll be nostalgic. We'll go back and listen one day and be like, I have, one's a lot of time you guys have listened
Starting point is 00:09:27 to something before episode 400 even. That's been a long time. Never. Yeah. It's been a very, very long time. Yeah, it's been a long time since I have to. I haven't, I haven't. Every once in a while you get a new appealing.
Starting point is 00:09:38 A new person on the forum who's like, you know, being indoctrined with everyone and then they go like, oh, I'll go back and listen to what I was doing. Oh boy. Hopefully they stay. But they she belt on. Oh man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah. Have you been training more? Um, it looks like it. I, yeah, I'm, well, I mean, I've been doing my like, I'm probably training three times a week right now. It looks like you've arms are a little bit. It looks like you stopped and then you started again. Yeah, I was, I kind of fell off a little bit there.
Starting point is 00:10:05 What do we do? I don't know what we did where I was just not very consistent. This whole thing with Katrina too, it's taken a toll for me to have to do all the house stuff and to care the boys. So a lot of times when I would be training in here, I've had to go home and it's really tough for me once I go home.
Starting point is 00:10:24 To leave and do so. Yeah, I've had to go home and it's really tough for me once I go home. To leave and do that. Yeah, I don't, like that's something, like I have to do my routine while I'm at the gym or go straight to the gym from here. Yeah, I do the home gym, man. I know I would, I would, if I didn't have the Camaro, I would. I 100% if I didn't have the Camaro, I would. That's where I would go. Go right there, I would definitely set up at least a squad.
Starting point is 00:10:42 I have to garage for it for sure. Totally. How often do you drive the Camaro? Why do you get to do that? Well, no, I'm not trying to make funny, I would definitely set up at least a squad. I got the garage for it for sure. Totally. How often do you drive the Camaro? Why do you get to do that? Well, no, I'm not trying to make funny, I'm curious. I know. I'm actually curious about that. It's like, when's the last time my hot rod trucks been running? Right.
Starting point is 00:10:54 You know, people ask me that. Well, his car works though. I know, he had his tree. I don't think he was working. No, it doesn't. You know, right now, not very often, it's been probably three weeks since I've taken it out. I was just started up every once a while
Starting point is 00:11:05 Yeah, I always fired up So it doesn't die or anything like that and I typically take it around the block At least stretch it out a little bit and then and bring it back in It's just that lately every time I've taken it out There's something that I got a tweak or thing and I'm not a fucking gear head So it's I don't get out of there and figured out myself And I know there's a lot of guys that fucking shame me for that, you know, like, oh, you just have this amazing piece of machinery and you don't fucking learn how to work on it. It's building value right now. Well, that's, that's an investment, right? So that's how I look at it and they
Starting point is 00:11:36 will come a time. What's it value that now versus how much you bought it for? Um, I paid, I paid 40 something for it. I put another 13,000 into it. When I insured it and had it appraised, it appraised at 75. Oh, wow. And that was, you made a nice 10, at least 15 grand, maybe 10, 15 grand over your investment. Right, you know, that's what,
Starting point is 00:11:56 that was what made, when I was shopping for a car and I wanted a, it was that or this luxury car that I wanted. I was real close to going out and buying $100,000 Mercedes. And the reason why I didn't, and I'm not against that at all, I mean, I'm sure that's something that will be, when I have that much money that I can just kind of throw away, I think that I would drive that. But for me, I was like, okay, if I'm gonna go buy a car that much
Starting point is 00:12:21 or spend that much money on something, I wanted to hold its value and for the most part almost all vehicles don't unless it's somewhat of a classic. Yeah, cars classically, typically the worst place to put your money. And it was one of the, even though I'm not seeking attention or that's not why I bought it, but I will say that, you know, I've been in Lamborghini's and Ferrari's and crazy exotic cool cars. And the classic gets way more cool attention then.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Way more respect. Yeah, it does. Yeah, because if you drive a really expensive exotic car, you'll get people will look at you and all that stuff, but then you'll get the whole like, you're pretentious or you're a douchebag. But if it's an old muscle car, yeah, everybody's gonna, it's just respect.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah, people appreciate it. And I really noticed that when I used to drive it down to Santana Roe where everybody brings their Bentley's and Ferraris and Lamborghinis, and it would be parked in front of like the Venetian, and you'll see, or hotel Valencia, excuse me, and you'd see, you know, a Bentley in front of mine and then a Lamborghini and a Ferrari parked in front of it, and people are like standing around the Camarral. I was like, oh shit, that's cool, you know, like that in front of mine and then a Lamborghini in a Ferrari parked in front of it. And people are like standing around the Camariles like, Oh, shit, that's cool. You know, like that's people appreciate the that year of Camariles. It's just so rare to see one and that. Yeah, they're iconic. Yeah. And to see it in that good condition.
Starting point is 00:13:36 And every time one gets felt, one gets total, the ticker goes up on those things. So, yeah, it's something that I definitely would like. I think right now in my things. So yeah, it's something that I definitely would, like I think right now in my life, I just, it's something that I would have to learn, spend time on, I didn't have the father figure who got under the hood with me. So it would be on my shoulders to figure all that out of my own.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And I believe one day I will, I think when I'm... Just put on YouTube. Yeah, when I'm in my mid, yeah, when I'm in my mid, I think that's true, it's true. Yeah, it's serious. Yeah think when I'm... Just put on YouTube. Yeah, when I'm in my mid, yeah, when I'm in my... I think that's true. It's funny, that's true, serious. Yeah, I've worked on my truck with YouTube, it's awesome. No, and I believe I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I think when I'm in my 40s and I mid to late 40s, I'm sure that's something that I'll totally be into. I've got a lot of friends that have them and they're in car clubs and they're at different points in their life. I'm in the middle of building something. This right now is my passion. You know, so like, if I got a free weekend,
Starting point is 00:14:27 I'm putting effort and time into what we're doing right now because I have such a love for it. More so than my car, my toys, my other hobbies that I love. Like, there's not a whole lot of room for that right now. There's not. And I'm okay with that. Like, I'm totally okay with it collecting dust right now, along with a lot of the other hobbies that I mean,
Starting point is 00:14:46 I've got the fucking crazy ATV, I've got snowboards and all the things that I love to do. And right now, there's nothing that I love more than what we're doing. It just, I've yet, I mean, we're doing this now four on four years. Is it gonna be four? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:00 It's four years ago. This has gotta be the fastest. So it's like 10. Business, four years of any business have ever done. Right, and it feels like it's 10. Have you had a moment? Yeah, I really have not had this. This is the first time in my life.
Starting point is 00:15:11 All the things that I've built or been a part of worked for whatever, I've never done something for four years consecutively. And still, when I wake up in the morning, like I can't wait to get here. Yeah, I really can't swear. It's weird, right? That's a fucking very,
Starting point is 00:15:26 do you know why that's more valuable than any dollar amount that we make doing this? That's quality of life. Do you know why that's so weird? Because I've never done anything I hated. I've always done something I love. So for this to be even, an even higher level of that, it's very strange.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Because I've been in fitness my whole life. So I've always liked what I've done. But it's never gone by this fast. I mean, four years, I remember how long a year took in the gym, in the street running gyms. A year was like 10 years of just grueling work. If I was in a club for a year, I was ready to get the fuck out of that club.
Starting point is 00:15:59 After about a year, it was like, move me out of here. I knew, I knew, okay. I remember, and people asked us all the time, I get this a common question, I get in my deems from like other trainers, like, you know, do you miss training and, you know, they're love for and it's like, you know, I love training clients, I love people,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I love people and, you know, the ability to train, you know, back to back to back clients for eight, 10 hours a day, you just get this diversity of humans that you get to experience. You get to hang out with cool people. Right. And I love and value that. But I would be lying if I didn't say that there was mornings
Starting point is 00:16:29 where the alarm went off and I'm like, fuck, I got a day to day. You know, I got 10 hours of work today that I was not, or you know, it's eight o'clock, nine o'clock at night and you've already seen seven, eight people and you're still there working. And I'm like, I can't, and I had those moments of wanting to get through an hour. There's never been that moment in what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I think that this business brings out those best moments from training. So we are still, my favorite part was being able to pick the brains of these brilliant people that I, you know, were my clients that were killing it in business or killing it in life and whatever decisions they're making was, you know, they're at a point where they can afford me and like,
Starting point is 00:17:08 you know, we're basically handing off a lot of this knowledge to me and like strategies and all that kind of stuff but now we bring those people on the show and we pick their brain for like two hours straight and it's amazing. It's like this education and then like every day you just get like charged and fueled,
Starting point is 00:17:25 you know, by, you know, them or even just like talking, the other part is just like figuring out like the best strategies for everything. So we get to do that. Good conversation is like a way of thinking. It really is. So is writing. Anytime you write or you talk with other people, if you're doing it really well, it's a great way to organize your thoughts, organize your ideas, process them. That's why talking is such an effective form of therapy. So when I can sit down and talk, even if I just talk to you guys,
Starting point is 00:17:57 like when we do these episodes where we don't have a guest, I may have an idea, you know, many times ideas flourish through our podcast for me personally. Like the first time I'll think something and it'll come out, it'll be on the podcast and then I'll fine tune it as we continue to discuss it. And it's accelerated that process. Yeah, or something one of you guys said
Starting point is 00:18:18 and then it resonates later and you keep thinking about it over and over and then it becomes this whole path that you kind of create. It's crazy. So you guys have seen the homeless person that now lives in our little parking lot over there. Because you know what bro? The front spot.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. Because you fed him. Yeah, it's just like that. And now he comes back straight cat dude. Twice. Yeah, he's just kidding. No, I gave him more. So no, let me tell you what happened.
Starting point is 00:18:40 So in front of the parking space, this homeless person, now we're in downtown San Jose. It is not rare to see, I don't know, four or five homeless people every day, right? So there's a larger homeless population in San Jose. It's becoming, it's kind of a thing, you know, that's kind of growing. And most of them, the mental illness you can tell, you know, but you know, every time I see one, if I can,
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'll give them something to eat or whatever. And there's a few regulars. Well, there was a new one that you pull into the parking lot and just crashed out sleeping in front of the parking spot. Yeah. And so yesterday I came in and there's a bag of like corn chips that we've had for, I don't know, a couple months. I don't know where I think it was from the Tahoe trip.
Starting point is 00:19:20 So I brought it out and I put the bag of chips on the ground and a bottle of water, but he was passed out. So I left, came back, and still there, bag of chips still there. Today, I came back, and bag of chips is half, he's not there anymore, but bag of chips is mostly gone, and there's a jar of salsa. So somebody must have got him some salsa for the trip. Good call. So I was like, oh, cool. He got some dip for it. He got some dip for it. He got some different condiments. Yeah, he got some different condiments. Yeah, he got a beat, so.
Starting point is 00:19:49 But I'm trying to catch him when he's awake so I can say hi to him. Yeah, I've talked to him. Yeah, you know, just see what's going on. I keep trying to, I'm like, can you, like, over where the grass is, like, grass, like, not too far and a little nice hit, like, I would have just picked a different spot. Like, instead of where you're like trying to slam the huge vehicle. Most of them most I just want to shift them over there. Most homeless people who are like homeless permanent because a lot of people and poor you know with who are in dire straits financially will pop in and out of quote unquote homelessness but more
Starting point is 00:20:20 often than not they're sleeping on people's couches and stuff like that. People who actually live on the streets, a large, large percentage of them mentally old. They just have mental illness, so they just can't do anything other than what they're doing. And, you know, I meet them all the time out here and there was one lady, remember that one lady that was getting... She'd go across the street. She was running through the... Yeah, cars were almost hit in her. Oh my God, she'd make me nervous. Yeah, so I ran over there and grabbed her and she was blind
Starting point is 00:20:49 She was legally blind. Yeah, and she couldn't see and I'm like, what are you why are you walking in the street? And she's like I don't know where I helped her one time. Yeah, so I walked her back over It's okay. Where are you going? I'm going on this bus and okay, you know, here's five bucks. Listen you need to go Find it yourself a shelter and you know, but they're all meant, this mental illness. So it's a problem that I don't see, I don't know what the solution is. I've always wondered why we don't, like, because there's, there's, there's, and San Jose is not the best example of this, because I know San Jose is not, but wouldn't it be smart to like have an area where they all kind of go? Like, I would, like, have this land, like like one of the thing if you were filthy rich and you had some property, it's just three acres, like three acres would fit a fuck
Starting point is 00:21:29 ton of tents. Like why wouldn't you why wouldn't you build an area where it would become a health hazard. You'd have to have sewer system. You have to have like it would become a it has to be managed. Yeah, it's it's a it's a much more complex difficult problem than than people realize. And we here's the thing. It's kind of more romantic difficult problem than people realize. And here's the other thing, it's kind of more... They're more... They're more... They do that on their own
Starting point is 00:21:50 and they'll encamp certain areas and then you can kind of move them up. And they're more homeless. They spend an LA, like I see in LA, they do that like a street somewhere is just fucking just tants everywhere. Dude, and what they do, the police will move in and we'll give them eviction notices literally
Starting point is 00:22:04 and tell them you need leave because we're gonna come by here tomorrow and we're gonna bulldoze this whole area. But they don't go anywhere out, they don't know what else to do, so they just move their tent somewhere else. But here's the other thing too, there are homeless shelters
Starting point is 00:22:16 that a lot of these people don't even wanna go to. No, there's a lot. Yeah, that they don't even wanna go to. Well, you say it'd be a big deal, so you should be like, okay, if we were trying to organize something that'd be like low, low, low, like overhead or expense, like to make this happen, I mean, why wouldn't lining up 10, maybe 15 fucking portapates and on the three acres
Starting point is 00:22:38 that I'm talking about, and then the service that you're paying for is you get those portapates picked up once a week, like how would that not be? How would would that be huge expense i don't understand how that would be crazy because drugs get used needles get shared people will start to get said that's happening no matter what though that's the problem it's like What's up, it is. I think that thought about these things on the phone. Yeah. I'm not huge in government involvement, but I do think some kind of medical mental health would be beneficial as well, I think. Because like I said, a lot of them are just mentally ill. A lot of them are addicted to drugs.
Starting point is 00:23:17 You could see it when they're not seeking help a lot of times. No, so it's a weird situation. It's an issue. Yeah, no, I've met a lot that choose to like fuck off. I've tried helping people and they like literally like are aggressive with me. Yeah, yeah, no, I've met quite a few that have just literally choose to live on the street.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Like they don't want to have no desire to get out and get out of that like it's crazy. Yeah, so I remember one guy was he had a sign that said, give me money so I can get a beer or a smoke. And I'm like, well, at least he's honest. Yeah. So I gave him a couple of books. Here you go. I like his beer sometimes too. There you go, buddy. Go drink. Go have a beer. Did I ever tell you guys about my favorite bum sign that I've ever seen? It was in San Francisco at the Giants game and the the The ballpark is right on the water and they have like a you know a I don't know what you call like the walkway like concrete walkway but below the arena right by where the water is at and Where Barry bonds used to hit all his home runs over us that wall. Yeah, and you could all I was at a game
Starting point is 00:24:21 In fact, it was when Barry bonds was chasing his the home run record and could all I was at a game. In fact, it was when Barry Bonds was chasing his the home run record. And it was crazy me because here we are at the Giants game, Barry Bonds is chasing the home run record. And right behind me where I'm sitting, everybody is standing up looking away from the game. And there's like a whole row of people
Starting point is 00:24:37 and they're loud and they're laughing. And I'm going, what the fuck? I mean, there's a really a lot of crazy good game here. And so I get up to go look and there's a bomb at the bottom, below all with the bottom, and he's got a big sign. And it says, I bet you can't hit me with a quarter. And people are fucking chucking quarters to this. And it was brilliant, dude.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I mean, I must have seen $100 worth of quarters in a short amount of time being chucked to this guy by everyone's just like pulling their change out and they're throwing it. And he's dodging and he's running back. And I thought that was fucking brilliant and clever and hilarious eventually they stopped it Which was really shitty you know, I'm saying that somebody came over and had to ruin the fun Yeah, cuz I thought this is great. This guy's having fun doing this people making money
Starting point is 00:25:17 Yeah, he's making money and he's people are checking quarter I thought it was fucking great Yeah, well Then it gets all weird yeah Yeah, hit the ball. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess that's not the best. This is shitty. So yesterday, yesterday we got our shipment of Net in.
Starting point is 00:25:37 And Katrina is now boycotting Net because when I take just, and all I need is two full droppers of that. Are you doing the, which strength are you doing? So I only have the 300 milligrams. I wanna try the stronger one. I haven't tried the stronger one, but I haven't really needed to use the stronger one, because two full droppers of just the 300 milligrams,
Starting point is 00:25:58 I take that right before we're heading up to the bed, and I let it sit under my tongue by the time I get upstairs upstairs and we, you know, get it in the sheets and stuff like that. I mean, just calm and out. Dude, I pass right out. And she's trying to get some, you know what I'm saying? Like she started to feel better.
Starting point is 00:26:14 And I'm just like, completely out. And so now she's like, you know how I'll take that all the time. Is that, are we gonna go to bed, wait a minute? Those are feeding you meth. Those cannabinoids are so good for their enzialytic properties, people with anxiety. The research coming out on that is fucking mind blowing. Anxiety is such a pain in the ass to treat
Starting point is 00:26:37 and the medications that they typically prescribe for that are addictive and terrible. A lot of people are suffering from anxiety from like multiple different factors. So I was, I've been reading quite a bit on this because it just seems to be exploding. And there's some theories that say that, that a lot of these anxiety issues are actually
Starting point is 00:26:54 deficiencies in endocannabinoids. So people actually, their bodies are not producing enough of these natural cannabinoids, like an endomide, which is one of them. So they're feeling the effects of that. Interesting. And so that's why supplementing with cannabinoids, like an endomide, which is one of them. So they're feeling the effects of that. Interesting. And so that's why supplementing with cannabinoids makes them feel so much better. The real question is why are people experiencing a,
Starting point is 00:27:16 why are they producing less of these endocannabinoids? And my hunch is that because of our lifestyle, we're just depleting the fuck out of ourselves. We do with our other hormones and systems because we're constantly hammering ourselves. Multitutifactors, we're overstimulated, we don't treat the process of going to bed and having a ritual for that to where it's like, you get to bed, it's just about how quickly you can crash
Starting point is 00:27:42 and then you don't really have that quality of sleep. Dude, for me, so I was just doing this this morning. So this little, it's kind of on the topic. This morning I was looking up other cannabis type companies. So obviously, Ned's not cannabis, they're hemp derived, but the cannabinoids you can find in both plants. And I was reading this morning on cannabis companies that are on the stock exchange,
Starting point is 00:28:05 because I know the science behind cannabinoids and what they can do, and in particular, I think that interests me the most as they're affect on cancer. I think that is, there's so much promise there, and there's no guarantees, but I think there's gonna be a blockbuster out there that's gonna explode.
Starting point is 00:28:21 And there's all these companies that are selling for like eight or nine dollars a share who are in this space. It's hard to know who's gonna be there. Well, I can't there's all these companies are selling for like eight or nine dollars a share Who are in this space? Yeah, I'm sorry. I know who's gonna be the well I'm trying to hedge my bets right because eight hundred nine I'm eight nine dollars you buy a hundred shares for under a grand Yeah, that's not a bad pharmaceutical companies like kind of taking that on well GW right well GW's the biggest one But they're all farmers companies. Yeah, they're all farmer companies that are coming out. There's a couple out of China That are entering into the fray now. And I know what can lead to them to kick her ass.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, there's a lot of them. Yeah, I mean, huge population. That's why there's such a big economy, you know? That's what's hard about when something like that hits is figuring out who's going to be the one that ends up. It's rarely ever the one that starts right away. Like you start off, you get into it first and early, but then somebody comes in and does it better, you know, yeah, it depends because investments make a big deal
Starting point is 00:29:08 When he comes to Marmons on to or bear oh, man They'll probably buy one of the company That's what I mean. That's exactly what happened. No way. It's just like the app game You know saying they wait until they see someone making waves and they've got the capital the marketing and everything behind it They can go okay. Let's go throw a hundred million at this company real quick and we'll blow it up to a $2 billion company. So you guys ready for a funny, what the hell headline? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So, this article came out today and I was, here's the first part of the article. The Girl Scouts of America has filed a lawsuit against the Boy Scouts. What? Say those verses boys saying that the group's gender neutral efforts to include girls is confusing and has led to membership losses. So you know the Boy Scouts have changed their name to the Scouts.
Starting point is 00:29:54 And they're trying to say we're for boys and girls. So now the Girl Scouts is suing them saying, hey, you guys are fucking taking away from us because we're the... Ken win, right? What's happening? Ken win, right? Ken win. Ken win.
Starting point is 00:30:07 No. You're damned if you're due, you're damned if you don't. They're Jesus. They're killing themselves. Can we go back to it then? Yeah, like, boy scouts? No, I can't go back. Yeah, so what if the girl scouts
Starting point is 00:30:18 just start including boys now? Yeah, right? Then what is it? There's, it's funny that people made such a, we're so happy about the Boy Scouts now allowing girls. Yeah. I don't see why that's a, there's definitely a lot of value in boys, in girls,
Starting point is 00:30:35 being able to do things just with their gender, especially coming of age type of stuff. Right. There's definitely benefits to it. So, I know it wasn't politically, I guess maybe not politically correct to be just the boy scout, just have boys in. And then they went, they tried to become more politically correct.
Starting point is 00:30:52 But politically correct is very much against anything masculine. So that's just how that goes. That's true, because you're right. I don't see the girl scout doing the same thing. But I think this is, and when they did it, I knew it. I saw this, I was like, oh, this is not gonna be good for the boy scout. It's interesting to see stuff like this change. I was this is, I think, and when they did it, I knew it. I saw this. I was like, Oh, this is not going to be good for the boys. Yeah. It's interesting to see stuff like this change. I was just listening to radio.
Starting point is 00:31:08 The sports talked this morning. They're talking about this is the anniversary. 2004, Ron, our test basketball player asked for two week vacation in the middle of the season. And in his contract and said, he wanted to, I needed to get away in the middle of the season. Yeah. That was in 2004. And he in 2004 and he got, he got fined to fucking bajillion dollars. He got suspended for two weeks. This was also what led to people talking shit to him and the famous, what do they call it? The massacre or something.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I forget what they call it, but this is where Ron Artest ran up into the stands. One of a fan, a fan threw it in the face. Yeah, I think, yeah. A fan threw a soda at him and they ran up nine players and it up getting suspended like tons of money over all of it. But that was the first time like a player had ever even asked why that now it's really normal. Like players take fucking time off all the time. They can demand it and it's part of. Oh, wow. It's part of the norm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:59 That was it's part of the norm now that these players can say that like, I don't want to play anymore for a couple of weeks. And it's been high stress for me and like, you know, teams now will say, okay, you know, it's so you take some time off or that's never, never was done before. That's fascinating. Yeah, that was an 04.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And then how much we've evolved now today. And it's just interesting to me to think that like people can get away with stuff like that. You sign a contract, you get paid millions of dollars, you work for this company, but now the company is, you know, they have to be like, well, it's the market. You know, if the market supports it, that's what's going to happen. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:32:31 And these guys are so highly paid and so, so hard to get. I mean, how rare is it to find a person with the skills to play a professional sport? Yeah. And if the, so long as the fans show up and pay for it, then I guess they can call for whatever they want. Well, that's what's happened. I mean, the players, the players know the pool that they have. Yeah. They're realizing their value.
Starting point is 00:32:50 And then they can, they can negotiate stuff like that now. Who's the highest, who pays the most NBA NFL or the, or I think, NBA is up there. NBA is up there. So it's all baseball too. I mean, after they had a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push-
Starting point is 00:33:09 Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push-
Starting point is 00:33:17 Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Don't they have a cat push- Chasing, you know, that whole thing with like Marmoguire and everybody else and
Starting point is 00:33:29 Yeah, dude, it was like now everybody has like these astronomical Salaries it's insane. They teams a lot of teams have salary cap. They have salary caps right to try and keep it fair But a lot of teams will you just get fined if you go over so you get fined like millions of dollars They explain the night the Yankees like how they always have money. Right. And so a lot of teams will go over the sour cap because they know that it doesn't matter because it draws X amount more dollars to the stadium. And if they end up winning or going far, it doesn't matter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So they kind of take the hit. But then you have other teams like the A's that, you know, they play money ball where they play the opposite where they run as lean as they possibly can get rid of you at the peak and then as a business they run it like a little fucking kills me now. What are the low end baseball players or football players or basketball players make? Like if you're like a quarter million. So if you're like it never see you never see the player and they're sitting on the bench they'll make like a quarter. Oh here's the air here they are. You might get like a signing bonus or something.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Doug's actually got the average salaries of each of the major sports leagues. Maybe start at the top dog or it looks like there's five you got up there. Oh, number one is basketball. The average salary, $4.9 million. That's average. Wow. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Baseball. Look at look at the Marcus cousins who we're trying to get, right? His he's on the Warriors team now. He's average. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Baseball. Look at look at the Marcus cousins who we're trying to get, right? His he's on the Warriors team now. He's injured. He won't even play till January. We'll only have him playing for and we sign for him for the five million something five point four. So he's yeah, you get that. I mean, the basketball players get some pretty fucking baseball
Starting point is 00:35:00 three point eight million. And then next is probably got to be NFL, right? No ice hockey, two point5 million for ice hockey. So they're actually averages higher than football, which is 2 million. Wait, in the salary that they're talking about like their entire career, they're talking about like year by year. I think their average, they're taking all the players and they're taking all the salaries and they're dividing them. Right. So you have, so the low end will be like, I think I believe entry low level for NFL
Starting point is 00:35:27 and you can look this up, Doug, it used to be like 250. So I think the lowest paid like kicker or, you know, yeah, I know because one of my friends he was signed on. He had a signing bonus. It was around 250 to 300,000 and then he got cut because he got injured like in preseason game and that was end of his career and then he invested it into remodeling houses and stuff. The one that I would need to get paid the most to even consider would be the NFL. It's gotta be, it's like war every time you play and you're, yeah, the only thing is there's a lot more players.
Starting point is 00:36:02 And the lifespan is much shorter. So like you can play pro football. I agree. I agree But yeah, it's like it's a as an owner you have to pay so much money for because there's I mean how many players do they have to acquire? It's like 50 I think 52 or 54 is a raw full roster for a lot. It's a lot of paychecks. Oh, yeah NBA you're only like coaches 13 or a ton of coaches 13 or 14 and maybe you only need like one two coaches Oh a rookie in the NFL is 480,000 so almost half a million years are rookie Wow, it used to be 250 so it's up to 480 now Yeah, that's not I mean that's not bad, but again again people I don't think people realize it like you you You play one game in the NFL you're getting blasted by some of the biggest strong human beings on earth
Starting point is 00:36:43 It's it's battle damage to every single, even, dude, practice is worse. Well, and the scariest thing about a lot of the, and then what you see a lot of is, I think I forget what the stat is. It's ridiculous on how many X NFL players end up going on welfare. And what happens is, you know, this, you know, these young kids sign these contracts where they make a million dollars or more a year, and then they get hurt two years later or something, and then they just know more money
Starting point is 00:37:11 after that, and they were there. They have nothing to fall back on. Yeah, nothing to fall back on. And right away, the first thing you go get when you're 22 years old and you make millions of dollars. House and car, yeah, all the fucking crazy stuff. Oh, 78%. 78% are either bankrupt or are under financial stress
Starting point is 00:37:26 within two years of retirement. Is that fucking nuts or what? And it estimated 60%. You know what it is. And this is an important statistic for people to realize. I think a lot of people think money is the answer to everything. You know, making money is important,
Starting point is 00:37:41 but knowing how to invest it and keep it is equally as important. It's extremely important to know these things. So these guys are going in, they're killing it, making tons of money, have zero idea what to do with the money or how to keep it. 78% dude, that's crazy. That's insane. It's almost eight out of every 10 players.
Starting point is 00:37:56 That's insane. There's more of a chance. That's the vast majority. Right, that's, that me out. That means you're rare. If you, if you retire and you're still okay. That's why when I, when I went friends like Brendan You know that I that I have I've just I have so much respect for these guys and you know frampton like there's a smart
Starting point is 00:38:11 Dude, yeah, buddy's a mind that played eight years in the league and they've gone and made as much or more money outside of the NFL Then they would think more oh deaf Brendan for sure now. I mean he's what he just did with orange theory I mean he I think what you were speculating Warren Stereo. I mean, he made it. I think what you were speculating the other a while ago about how you think the future of sports is going to be virtual. I think that's 100, it's 100% true. I was watching a video the other day on YouTube of these multi-directional treadmills.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Have you guys seen these? Yeah, crazy. Where, on me, on me, on me, it's a true. On me, directional. Yeah, you basically run in any direction, and it's only a matter of time before they get so good that you're gonna be in this virtual reality, whatever, and you're gonna be jumping and moving and diving
Starting point is 00:38:53 and whatever, and it's gonna act itself out. It's gonna simulate it. And that's what we're gonna offer. And it'll still take super athletes. Of course to do all that shit. Yeah, to do all that stuff, and it'll be just as entertaining for people if we can make it look as as real and authentic as as like you were. But they're gonna ample collisions will be simulated instead of them actually. And they're gonna amplify your
Starting point is 00:39:15 abilities. Did amplify your abilities. You'll be able to jump 15 feet. Maybe you'll get you'll you'll touch a special star at the top of the, you know, the 30 yard line. I'm talking Mario. Now you've got a freaking machine. Who knows? No, they can do it. You know you hit someone hard enough to explode She's been in it totally I really I think when you see what I mean we just got off having a He's gonna take some mushrooms get fucking huge and stomping I mean it's to me it's the only thing that I mean look at we how we've progressed with the crazy or bigger Scary or hits as over the last like 30 years.
Starting point is 00:39:47 The only thing that will allow that to continue to evolve is the fact that you somehow find a way to protect the players and still give the audience what they want, which is this crazy destruction. You're going to have a power meter, you know, and every player and you're probably almost dead. Let's see how long he's going to, oh no, he got the automatic life. Well, they killed him. Yeah, we will see him till next Sunday. know, automatic life. Well, they killed him.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yeah, we will see him till next Sunday. Yeah. See you later. I would watch that. Of course. I fucking love that. Yeah, no. I mean, and to me, the owner resurrected him.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Have an Andy Miller on the show and have talking to him about eSports and where that's going. I mean, if it's starting to get to a point where they're filling up stadiums and you're watching, yeah, they gotta figure out the physical side of it because we need that to have like, like keep you in reality, but at the same time exaggerate it, right? Which I think that'll be once they figure that out.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right because gaming with just traditional gaming with the controllers. That's shit. Look really boring. It gets confusing. Now, and they're, to argue on their side, these kids grow around. They're into it. Yeah, they grow up with it. So it's not like us where we didn't necessarily grow up with all that shit. Like my son can look at a screen,
Starting point is 00:40:54 shits moving in all directions and he's fine. I watched it for- He knows what's going on. Yeah, I watched it for 15 seconds. I got dizzy. Dude, I saw that too. It was on, I think it was on one of the ESPNs and they were actually showing an Overwatch
Starting point is 00:41:05 tournament and I was like, oh wow, so they are getting some airtime now with this as well. But I'm very interesting. But if they did it where the players had to physically do this stuff, jump and dive and whatever, then there would be limitations based on the physical attributes of the person. Now you bring the classical sport element back into right that There's no stick they can do it. I think so too
Starting point is 00:41:28 I think they'll still be valued to somebody who is the way to train train and be I mean you could still all those things will still be important So what would you think the the best players would look like at that? There wouldn't be the bigger strongest people. No, no, they wouldn't they'd be probably the most agile Reactive and quick and fast. Yeah, I'm picturing these facilities, like a warehouse where it's like all green screen, all around them and then they have like those like sensor suits on, you know, and then they just like have their own designated section and they deal
Starting point is 00:41:54 all their physical shit and then we look at it on a screen is this crazy world, you know. I think it would be super rad. You'd have all these like all the guys would be like five, nine gymnasts. You know what I mean? It'd be all the Cirque des Soleil people. Yeah, I can just mop up They could do it. It would be like it's like a movie that what that came out. What was it called player one? Yeah, yeah, and I'd watch that shit. I would totally watch that. I'd love to see players explode
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Starting point is 00:42:52 First question is from the Maple Leaf Man. What would you guys say are the best and most important vegetables to eat? Kale, spinach. Yeah, right. I mean I mean, see. Well, you have seasons, right? For all these different types of vegetables, that's got to play a factor into it, right? Well, what are the most nutrient, I think kale and spinach are two of the most nutrient dense, right? Those are pretty nutritious.
Starting point is 00:43:15 The cruciferous vegetables have some special qualities. For example, broccoli contains something called indol. I think it's indol three carbonyl, is the name of it. And it acts as an anti-cancer agent in the body and studies showing it reduces the risk of things like breast cancer and stuff like that. You know, here's the thing about vegetables. They're pretty much every study that's ever been done
Starting point is 00:43:40 on nutrition has shown that vegetable consumption is associated with better health and longer life. But there's a lot of misconceptions out there with vegetables. Like one of the misconceptions is that eating vegetables raw is the best way to consume them. That one I like to talk about a lot because people really believe that to be true. Also too, I mean pesticides have to play a factor to that too. If you're eating ones that are more prone to having more of a higher concentration of pesticides, obviously the more organic you can go with that, the better. But all the more important, there are certain vegetables
Starting point is 00:44:15 that will get probably sprayed the most with that. Yeah, I go organic and I also like to cook my vegetables. Now, yes, when you cook vegetables or when you boil them or whatever, you do lose some of the nutrients. However, you're able to capture more of the nutrients that are left in the vegetable because they're easier to digest. You know, many times I've had clients tell me, oh, if I eat a cup of broccoli,
Starting point is 00:44:39 like I get gas here or whatever, and I tell them, just cook them really well and see how you feel. The cooking process helps to break down some of those fibers so that they're easier digest and as a result of that, you're able to eat much more. You guys have seen the bowls of vegetables that I'll eat. Well, I didn't, you're the one that really, I never even thought to try and do that. But I also come from the the era of, you know, demonizing fat and butter. Like I would never use butter on anything
Starting point is 00:45:07 back in the days, you know? And so vegetables, if I did have them, they were very bland and dry. And it was you who, when we first started the show, would you show up with these massive bowls of broccolini and repeatable. Yeah. But the sulfur ones too, right?
Starting point is 00:45:26 But man, you put a little bit of butter, balsamic, olive oil, man, and it really, it makes vegetables actually really good for, and now that's kind of, there's sometimes all, you know, a vegetable dominant meal with just a little bit of meat or something else to go with it, and I can do that now.
Starting point is 00:45:43 I never did that before. And I also have like now. I never did that before. And I also have like a rule for me where, because very easily, I can go, you know, a couple of days and not have greens or not have a couple of meals where I really don't give any. So if I have less than two servings in the day of vegetables,
Starting point is 00:46:01 I almost always do my organified green juice. If that, if my goal always is to get all of my meals, get a healthy portion, like big size bowl there, but if my emergency, and that's why I love the organified green juice, is I keep that on call all the time. I have the Katrina keeps the packets in her purse and with her, so if we're out restaurants and I don't have any greens, or if we're traveling or something, we use that, And then we always have one in the refrigerator at home.
Starting point is 00:46:27 And if I can't get to the two, then I use that otherwise, I'm always trying to get at least three to five servings of veggies in the day. One of my favorite vegetables of all time that is not common. It's hard to find in stores, but luckily the whole food's over here in the one by my house will not always, but typically we'll have it is broccoli, raw bay, R-A-B-E. It's called bay. And they look like, it's almost like they look like spinach with a little bit of broccoli.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Like they're very leafy, they have little tiny, like skinnier trees. No, no, that's broccoli. No, that's broccoli. No, you need to know what's broccoli. Yeah, I thought rapini was the... It's the same. Rapini or Rabe. Oh, okay. I just say Rapini. It's the time you call it Rapini. Got it. And it's the big leafy green, the big leaves, and then they have the little, what look like, cruciferous,
Starting point is 00:47:15 you know, broccoli, but the real real small nuggets. Yeah, they're really, really small. And so what I do with those, as I cut off a lot of the stem, just because it's tough and you can eat that too, it's fine, but I'll typically cut it off. And so what I do with those is I cut off a lot of the stem just because it's tough and you can eat that too. It's fine, but I'll typically cut it off. And then I'll boil them and I'll boil the fuck out of them. Get them real nice and soft. Drain the water. I put them on a plate, all the oil and salt. And it is the best hands down, best food I've ever eaten for my gut. By hands down. And if I give it to anybody, if I have a friend or family member
Starting point is 00:47:46 who's complaining of gut issues, especially constipation, I'll tell them, make this, cook it really, really well, because you're gonna consume a full, full, bush, bush, I love it. Add a little olive oil and a watch what happens and churn up, so easy, it's just, you eat it and it's so smooth. And go to the bathroom and you feel great and it just feels amazing.
Starting point is 00:48:03 It's my favorite vegetable. What was the doctor that we had on and she was talking about the sulfur being, like she was like emphasizing the vegetables with sulfur over all of them. Was it Dr. Walls? Yes, Dr. Terry Walls. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:17 And like between you eating like those huge bowls and then she kept reiterating how important, like the amount, like the actual serving size, like you'd get per day was like, way outside of what I was eating and just like stressing the importance of that. I've been kind of changing my approach to vegetables as a result.
Starting point is 00:48:36 Yeah, one vegetable that's made a comeback in recent years is Brussels sprouts, which I think is hilarious. I fucking love those. It's like, why did that? Why was that one of them that everybody was like, ew, you know, why? Well, you know, my favorite. Because if you had it, how I had it when I was younger,
Starting point is 00:48:49 which was just fucking steamed, they're nasty. I think just steamed Brussels sprouts are nasty. Just cabbage. They have a little cabbage. Well, they have a bitter aftertaste to them. But man, if you make those right. Like the way Doug does. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Doug's Brussels sprouts are just ridiculous. Yeah, they're drowning in this. Little bomb baking fan. Well, that's okay. No, I know it's hot today. I hate it with, yeah. Oh, dude. Little baking bits.
Starting point is 00:49:12 We've taken Doug's recipe and we've, Katrina and I have made all kinds of different variations from that recipe and that's how we eat Brussels sprouts all the time. You know something else is that's a very easy tip for people that has helped me and it's a tip that I used to give to clients is eat them first. You know, when you sit down at a table, we've been trained, you know, the American diet is very common to get served tortilla chips or bread or, you know, you eat all these carbs and or process type foods first and then you move into these carbs, or and-or process-type foods first,
Starting point is 00:49:45 and then you move into your juicy meats, or whatever that you get, and then whatever you have room for, we tend to have our greens, and you tend to leave some of those on the plate, where now I always eat and reverse, I'll finish all of my greens, and I- I prioritize my food, the same way I'll prioritize my training.
Starting point is 00:50:02 So if I'm in the gym, and my priority for the day is my squats, or my deadlifts, or my food, the same way I'll prioritize my training. So if I'm in the gym and my priority for the day is my squats or my dead lifts or my chest or whatever, that's typically the first thing that I'll work. I think you should do that with nutrition too. I agree. When you have your food in front of you, you know, okay, I'm trying to bulk right now so I need calories. Okay, that's okay then. Make sure your protein's in your vats first or whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But if you're trying to prioritize health and and especially if you're trying to cut, eat a big serving of vegetables first. It'll help you eat less. You're gonna get all those wonderful nutrients. You're gonna get the low calories. What I love about that attitude too, and this is what I teach is like, because people ask, well, can I ever have bread
Starting point is 00:50:37 or can I ever do this? Or I love this, listen, don't play this game with yourself of what you can or can't have. It's starting off on the wrong foot with nutrition. It's like feed your body what it needs first, like you're saying prioritize it that way. You know what's neat is like I don't tell, when I sit down at a restaurant and we're eating,
Starting point is 00:50:54 I don't say I can't have the role. If I eat my big serving of veggies, I eat my meat and whatever potato or well, so I have on there. And then if I still have room and I wanna have a piece of bread, I'll have it. But what ends up happening most of the time is I'm fine. By the time I get through all those other,
Starting point is 00:51:11 prioritize all the things that are much higher and nutrient value for my body. A lot of times I don't feel, or I'll have a little bit of it instead of having where those rolls come out on a table at a restaurant. I mean, fuck, I'll crush four or five of those things or they come out with their half loaf wherever you're at. You all sit there and get, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:30 500 calories of that before I even eat my main meal. And so instead of doing that, I'll get to all, you know, that strategy works really well for kids too. This is something that Jessica really implemented with our family, with the kids. And it was hard for me at first to get on board because it was so different, but now it's brilliant. Like my kids, when we sit down to eat,
Starting point is 00:51:50 they're the first thing on their plate is their vegetables. And in order for them to get to the next stage, they have to finish their vegetables. And it's not a question. It's just, it's just this is just how we eat. And it works. They eat way more vegetables now than they would have done before.
Starting point is 00:52:04 You know, it's crazy like, and you were able to make that transition later with your kids, but I just, I think about parenting now, and if you have a kid that's two years old or younger, if you just start that as a habit with a family, the kid won't know any better than that. You know, it's where I feel for parents
Starting point is 00:52:23 that have kids that are 10, 12, 13 years old right now, and then they're trying to implement that. I know that would be really, really tough. It's going to take months. Right. But it takes off on doing. Right. But if you could start off that way, the kids won't know any difference. That's how, if mom and daddy eat that way and you've just kind of always done that, look, it's such a good habit. It becomes ingrained in you. The reason why I was so hard for me to break was I grew up eating a particular way. And the way I would eat was pasta first,
Starting point is 00:52:50 meats next, then we're gonna have our salad typically, then we're gonna have fruit and nuts. And this is just the way my culture eats their food. So when, for example, my parents eat over and we serve food vegetables first, and then my parents are like confused Where's the pasta? Well we eat that at the very end. Well, why would you that's not when you're supposed to eat the pasta? We supposed to eat in the beginning, so it's this funny thing
Starting point is 00:53:14 But no, you know, I want to ask you Justin because you went for You went for like five or six weeks without touching a single I know huh what did what are the differences you noticed when you ate when you reintroduced them versus when you didn't have them? Because you did carnivore there for a while. Yeah, at first it was a little bit of an adjustment. So my stomach, obviously there's certain components like gas and just certain things that I had to kind of fight through,
Starting point is 00:53:42 like with just bringing fiber into my body again. Like I think just having that was a bit of, you know, a few days of just like kind of dealing with the reintroduction of it. But once I got, you know, through that initial bit where I was just slowly reintroducing, you know, vegetables and I actually did it more with the green juice. And I was just, I was doing that because it was already, vegetables and I actually did it more with the green juice.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I was doing that because it was already... It was sort of easy to digest. It's easier to digest, thank you. That's what I was looking for. That helped me to ease back in transition. But once I started eating broccoli and I started eating kale and a little more fibrous like intense, you know So so furious like type of vegetables. That was like a
Starting point is 00:54:30 Challenge but but now I oh my god I went completely on the other side to where my body was like oh my god. Where's these been like it felt like Now my body recognized how you know depleted deficient I was to where I crave it and I saw how depleted and deficient I was. So I crave it. And I saw Brussels sprouts the other day. And I've just been on this tear of just eating Brussels sprouts lately. How do you eat yours?
Starting point is 00:54:52 I eat mine like sauteed, like in kind of the way that Doug showed us with the Avoggi. And so we'll do that with some of the little prosciutto. Oh god. Yeah, it's just good. I mean, they're just so good. Yeah, the other things too,
Starting point is 00:55:08 a lot of people don't consider vegetables are the algees and the sea vegetables. I was gonna ask you about that. I've seen like it. It's spirulina. Spirit liana is one of them. Yeah, clorella. Yeah, those are both
Starting point is 00:55:20 extremely nutrient dense algees that you get in the ocean. And now, if you were to eat them raw, they'd be hard to digest because the cell wall is so hard and so dense. But what companies do like to organize is they break it down for you, pretty adjusted, then you drink it as a powder
Starting point is 00:55:38 and you get all those nutrients. But those are extremely nutrient dense. Spirulina is very high in protein, very high in nutrients, same thing with chlorella. And then seaweed. Seaweed is a great source of iodine. And there are a lot of people, now, not everybody, but there are a lot of people that have iodine deficiencies, especially, this is something you want to take a look at.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Isn't it a lot of kale too? Yeah. This is something you want to look at if you don't use iodized salt. So if you use sea salt and Himalayan pink salt, you can actually test to see what your iodine levels look like. Because if your iodine levels are all off, it's going to affect your thyroid production. And that will affect your energy, your well-being, how you burn body fat, all that stuff. So figure that out. And then if it is low in iodine, eat some seaweed. And it's a great source of natural iodine
Starting point is 00:56:26 so Next question is from Saris Alexander 1 2 3 if circuit training sends the wrong signal for example cardio with weights Why do non-professional CrossFit athletes have very muscular bodies? Oh good question. So yeah, yeah, I just love to tackle this. So you know what's funny is it's If anybody were to do Cleanes squats dead lifts overhead presses at the volume that Crossfitters do that on a weekly basis You're all gonna build in regardless if you do it in a fucking cardio fashion or not
Starting point is 00:57:03 You're gonna build a must yeah, you're gonna build a muscular physique now that now where I would challenge is if you do it in a fucking cardio fashion or not, you're gonna build a muskete. Yeah, you're gonna build a muscular physique. Now, where I would challenge is if you take those exact same bodies that you're envisioning right now, and they did way less cardio intense or trained the same amount of volume with more rest and better programming, they would be even more muscular. And is this also athletes that came over into CrossFit that you're seeing, so like sort of the democratization even more much. And is this also athletes that came over into CrossFit
Starting point is 00:57:25 that you're seeing? So like sort of the democratization of sport while you're seeing like certain people gravitating towards like certain activities in general, because my perspective is not the case. Like I see a lot more Crossfitters that have gone through and had had decent results and then have completely fallen off. Listen, for every CrossFit athlete,
Starting point is 00:57:48 that's not professional, but CrossFit athlete that is ripped and looks muscular, I'll show you 50 CrossFit members that don't look like they even work out. Now, this is not what you see in like all gym. This is not a knock on people, okay? But this is, the problem with this is, first off, the few that do get ripped on the insane type of exercise programming, not all, but some of these CrossFit boxes have,
Starting point is 00:58:13 it kind of selects the genetic anomalies that can actually recover and repair and build. Most people going through CrossFit eventually stop or have to stop because it's too much. It's too much working out, it's too hard, maybe injury overuse injury, the intensity, it's group training, which makes it more difficult. Now, here's a deal, and I'm seeing this more and more today than I ever did even three or four years ago. More and more CrossFit boxes are being run
Starting point is 00:58:40 by good coaches who understand this and who are training people much more appropriately. But early on, yeah, early on, it wasn't like that. Early on, you go are training people much more appropriately. But early on. It's so valid point. Yeah, early on, it wasn't like that. Early on, you go to CrossFit when they beat the crap at you. It was like, we're fucking going balls out. It's gonna be crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:52 And so I would get lots of people who'd come to me afterwards with injuries or burnout. It was very common for someone to come to me and you know, I want to hire me. And I'd ask them their exercise history. And they'd be like, well, I did CrossFit for about a year. I burned myself out and I stopped working out for a year now. I want to hire you. Not only that, but also this perception of a body being more muscular. A lot of times is because they're leaner. I remember people thinking that I was the biggest I'd ever been when I was
Starting point is 00:59:24 walking around at 3, 4% body fat. And by no means was it the biggest I've been, I was 30, 40 pounds bigger than that before, but people thought I was bigger because I was more muscular and more defined. So if you're doing something that is high calorie burn and you're lean and you have a leaner body, you're going to look more muscular also. Take that, and that was my point of saying that those same bodies that you're looking at, if I got a hold of them, I could make them look much more muscular.
Starting point is 00:59:51 If I rest of them more, fed them more, and you can make them look bigger and more muscular than they already are. And like what Salah is saying, there's definitely this genetic component that's being involved, that these people are able to handle this super high intensity and high volume of these types of If lifting weights, if lifting weights was purely relegated to bodybuilding and physique competition and figure and bikini competition, okay? If it was like an umbrella like CrossFit where the only way you'd lift weights is if you went and join these, you know, weights clubs and everybody and then
Starting point is 01:00:26 they compete in stage presentation sports. Your perception of people who lifted weights would be, oh man, everybody that follows this program looks like a bodybuilder or a physique competitor or bikini competitor. That's not true. Some people do, but most people at lift weights look like everyday regular people. Why? Because you need good programming, you need good nutrition. It's not just the fact that it's the same thing with CrossFit. This is the same exact thing. The people that tend to stand out and then you say, wow, you look really ripped. What do you do?
Starting point is 01:00:52 I do CrossFit. Oh, everybody does CrossFit looks like that. No, not at all. Like I said, for everyone, I'll show you 50. Right, right. That don't. I've been to at least a dozen CrossFit. Well, CrossFit, we work next to one.
Starting point is 01:01:04 Yeah, and I work next to one and we see 30 crossfit bodies a day. Yeah, and it's just the regular people, just regular people working out and it's still rare to see the really fit, you know, rip person, just like it's ready to see them, you know, anywhere else. And Instagram is a very bad example. Terrible example. I'm saying like Instagram will have you believing
Starting point is 01:01:22 everybody looks like a cartoon character. And the ones that last, like you maybe they will be the specimens like you said like it's you know If you see like certain people that stay for like the long period they can Genetically handle a lot of the stress. I feel like they're trying to Because isn't glassman kind of moving away from the games a little bit. Yeah, I feel like his efforts are more towards like addressing. The boxes, yeah, we're even just like the soda companies and he was like on this major push to kind of like go against like Coca-Cola and all these things. Who knows, the fuck they're doing.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I, well, this is the, I hope this is the approach. This is what we talked about like episode four or something like that. We're carrying. I know, I don't care. It's relevant. Well, it's a, it's a sport. CrossFit is becoming irrelevant.
Starting point is 01:02:07 Well, the box is, the boxes need to treat it like a workout for people, rather than treating it like a sport, which when you train like for a sport, it's always high performance all the time. It was a great time. It's sad, you had your time. You know what I mean? Let's fucking stop talking about it. Just move on.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Stop, lame. I'm gonna keep reiterating this because I wanted to die. Oh my God. It'll never die. It's become a great sport, right? It's become, it's just, it's what we said since the very beginning. It's a, but I think the peak is, I think it's starting.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Oh yeah, no, no, no, we've definitely, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've got, we've definitely seen the peak of it. And I think that it's not only is it leveled off overseeing the other people coming back the other direction any sort of growth I think they're seeing right now is overseas more so than it is in the United States I think as far as United States is concerned. I think it's yeah, I think it's pretty flat or even knowing the other direction So I mean it is it's a it's a sense we've day one we've talked about it
Starting point is 01:03:00 I've got so much respect for the positive things that it's done in the health and fitness community. No doubt. I've never seen so many dead lives and overhead presses. They they buy themselves completely changed. Yeah. I appreciate it. I got a lot of love, a lot of respect for that. And I think that we've we've said that enough times. But at the same time too, it's very sport specific. It's you knowspecific. It's lifting weights as a sport. It's not the best way. It's not even close to the best way to be healthy and in shape.
Starting point is 01:03:32 I'm sorry, it is not. It's not individualized. Anything that's, honestly, anything that's taught in a class, anything that's taught in a group of 20 to 30 to 50 people, and it's the same knock that I had on Orn Steery was, you know, cool. It's, it's a great group environment. Yes, it probably makes people a little more consistent because they have this community
Starting point is 01:03:53 that they have that they've created around it. And they've made fun with the colors and all this stuff like that. But at the end of the day, what ends up happening is at one point, a lot of these people end up getting injured and set back or They they fucked their metabolism's up so much because they they push so hard and they don't they don't fuel and rest Properly and then what happens is they they have these crazy swings of they're either on the wagon or off the wagon And when they're off they're fucking way de-conditioned their way out of shape I've seen so many people
Starting point is 01:04:24 Women in particular, and maybe mainly because of the female bodies, a little more sensitive to this, but I've had people come to me and hire me who were 20 to 30 pounds overweight, who were doing three or four crossfit workouts a week, working out like crazy, trying to watch their diet and can't figure out why they can't lose weight.
Starting point is 01:04:44 Now they have good stamina and stuff. You watch them work out, they can sweat and push their body, but they come to me and they'd be like, why am I not like losing weight? What's going on? Is this just my body? I'm like, your your body's holding onto that. We need to completely change how you're training and it's gonna take us, you know, maybe six months to reverse what's happened. And I mean, it sucks when I say that, to look on their faces like that. Well, when it ends up happening, and it's just like what I'd see at Orange Theory is,
Starting point is 01:05:11 the people that are most attracted to this way of working out are the worst ones to do it. That's the problem. The problem is if you really like that, there's a reason why you really like it. It feeds right into your personality. That's a very dangerous thing for... Before CrossFit existed, we pick on CrossFit, but 15 years ago when I was coaching, nobody
Starting point is 01:05:34 knew what the Float CrossFit was, was even around yet. The issues that I would have is I would get a type A personality, and instead of CrossFit, they circuit trained with weights, and they did Cardio Hardcore, and they were high-stress, jobs, type A personality. And instead of CrossFit, they circuit trained with weights and they did Cardio Hardcore and they were high stress jobs, type A personalities. They were eating fucking 1300 calories and they come to me and they hire me and they're like, help me out. And then what, you know what they want me to train them?
Starting point is 01:05:56 They want me to crush them in the gym. They would actually say that. Yes. I'm not, so I'm, you know, I push hard, I do this, I do that. I want a really hard work and I want you really push me. It's like, so I'm, you know, I push hard, I do this, I do that. I want a really hard work, I want you to really push me. It's like, you don't want a trainer, you want a fucking motor.
Starting point is 01:06:09 Real sergeant, you want a drill sergeant, I mean, all this good stuff, but they've also pissed, like, directly in, you know, the well for people that, like, want to actually train to get better at something. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, it's my way to move it out. Okay, so what I'm saying is, in terms of like playing a sport,
Starting point is 01:06:27 they've also like, they've convoluted that whole process of like me working out to embed our myself to then see how that translates into my performance. Yeah. That became the sport, which fucked everything up. So, you know, I know I'm gonna get some heat for that and I'm okay with it. I really am at this point. Like people need to just get over it and like let's do something else.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Next question is from Tara Singh's. When should you do a super set and what type of super set is best and for what reason? Oh, more good question. I love super set. Now technically you can super set one of the hell you want. You can even Super Set during a strength phase. I've actually done Super Sets where I'm doing very, very low reps and the way I'll do a Super Set is I'll do a
Starting point is 01:07:16 an explosive movement first just to prime my CNS. And then I'll go into the slow grinding heavy movement. So technically, you can do it many time. Now that being said, I think supersets are best used when you're trying to maximize a pump. If your goal in your workout is to try and get the most intense skin splitting pump, I only train them in our phase three of our programs.
Starting point is 01:07:41 Yeah, that's where they, that's the only place we put them. Yeah. Is in our third phase, is third and fourth phases of our programs where we're, that's where they that's the only place we put them. Yeah. Is in our in our third phase is third and fourth phases of our programs. Well, we're that's the goal. The goal is that what's called sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. So sarcoplasm for people who don't know represents all the non muscle fiber structures within your muscle, which actually makes up a majority of your muscle. This includes water, glycogen, capillaries, other structures that are not muscle fibers, and you can actually increase the amount of these. You do it temporarily every time you get a pump.
Starting point is 01:08:12 When you get a pump, it's called transient circle plasma hypertrophy. It's getting bigger temporarily. You can increase and improve your muscle's ability to do this and perhaps have some long lasting size effects by training this and the pump itself has been tied to hypertrophy anyway. Just getting a pump itself has been tied
Starting point is 01:08:34 to building more muscle. So that's one I love using supersets for, but there's three different ways that I typically will incorporate a superset. There's three of my favorite ways of doing a super set. One is a pre-exhaust super set. So pre-exhaust super set is when I'll do an isolation movement first, and then I'll do a compound movement neck.
Starting point is 01:08:56 So like a chest fly, you know, with dumbbells and then go over to a barbell bench for us. Right, and it's for the same body part. So the goal is to do an isolation movement for a major muscle group and then move to a barbell bench press. Right, and it's for the same body part. So the goal is to do the isolation movement for a major muscle group and then move to a compound movement. So you're pre-exhausting, so like my quads, let's say I wanna hit my quads really hard. I could do leg extensions or sissy squats, which is more of an isolation movement.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Really fatigue my leg, my quads, then go into barbell squats. Now I can call upon my hamstrings and my glutes and everything else to help me, but my quads are pretty fatigued from the first movement and the pump I get is just absolutely insane. So that's one way to do a superset. The other way to do a superset that I really enjoy
Starting point is 01:09:34 is like an antagonistic superset. And this is where, and this believe or not, is how I most often superset, and I typically will do this in my arm workouts regardless of what phase I'm in. And this is where you hit one muscle and then you hit the opposing muscle right afterwards without any rest.
Starting point is 01:09:52 That's taking a compound set, we've talked about this before. Yeah, but you can still call it a superset. A superset, well, the old definition that weeter, he's the one that invented this term, I believe, was two exercises with no rest, which is definition. Although a compound set mean would mean the same thing. Two things.
Starting point is 01:10:09 So the kind that I'm talking about would be like a bench press to a barbell row would be a good example. Chest them back. Or the way I like to do it, curls to overhead tricep extension. So bicep and tricep. And I really like the way this feels. One of my best feeling, super, it's nice to have both sides of a body part feel pumped and engorged.
Starting point is 01:10:31 It's, you know, my advice to somebody is to, you know, evaluate your own training. And this is a tool, again, like many things that we talk about in your, you know, training, your training tool belt. And it should be used that way to where you're not doing it all the time. Now, I was notorious for doing this all the time, and I noticed a significant difference when I actually started to phase this and do it like we do now where I only run it for three to four weeks, I incorporate them into my training regimen, and then I'm'm out of it and then I come back about it. I'm more effective.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Now the biggest thing that I noticed and so if you're listening and this could be you, like I loved supersetting, I used to almost superset everything that I did and all my workouts is what I would notice is I would get, man, when I was pumped in the gym, I would grow, I felt like I looked amazing. I got really good at being able to get these massive pumps. But then I felt like I would deflate when I left the gym. And then I felt like, man, sometimes I look like I don't even really work out that much. This sucks, but I look great when I'm all pumped up. If I could only just look the way I
Starting point is 01:11:39 looked when I, and then when I think about it now, like understanding the science behind it, you know, it's exactly what you said. So I was, I got really good at the ability to maximize the pump and to be able to fill all that fluid in those muscle bellies and look really pronounced and large. But then my actual muscle fibers hadn't grown and gotten that much bigger from it. And when I started to really strength train and drop into those, you know, singles, doubles, triples, and five repetition type of training with rest periods. And I started to do, and this is, we talk about this, like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:12:12 And we call this like dense or grainy type of look. And now I don't have to be as pumped up. And I can see my, my muscle definition more than I ever have in my life. And that to me was because I abused this technique and I was drawn to the pump and the superset. So, you know, and then the reverse is true. If you're somebody who loves the strength train and you love the three minute rest periods
Starting point is 01:12:34 and you never chase after the pump and you never superset. Oh yeah, watch what happens. This will be an incredible tool for you to incorporate in your training. So you just have to really evaluate, are you somebody who loves doing this so much? Because you love chasing the pump, and you probably overuse it and abuse it,
Starting point is 01:12:49 you need to probably cycle out of it and allow yourself not to train that way for a few weeks. And if you're the other other side, we always tend to gravitate to one's the other. So think of it like that. So I'm always trying to implement because I won't do it. Right, you're the opposite.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah, but I love the effects that it brings. Once I start to kind of train that way and you get that different stimulus and it's really important to schedule that. Otherwise, yeah, I will fall directly back into my old patterns and then you're just gonna stay the same. And for sports, you know, super sets, and they don't call them super sets in sports. I think what do they call them like complexes
Starting point is 01:13:24 and clusters or whatever. And for sports, you can use great, these are great for performance. They're great to build strength and endurance. So like a good example of a super set that I would do with an athlete would be to like drive the sled and then do some squats or vice versa, do some squats and then drive the sled
Starting point is 01:13:44 or do some heavy dead lifts and then throw a medicine ball as high as you can. Or else jumps into squats. Yeah, they're great for performance. God, back in the day, man, when I was, you get away with so much when you're in your 20s, I swear to God, your body's indestructible. Some of the workouts that we would do with supersets
Starting point is 01:14:03 were just silly. They were just absolutely, I would do these, because the third type of superset, which you could technically call it a superset, but it's really called a strip set. Hard drop set, yeah. Or drop set is where you go from, you know, you do as many as you can with one weight
Starting point is 01:14:15 and then you drop to one weight. I remember doing that with a leg press. I remember doing that with a leg press when you were a kid. You'd stack up 10 plates on each side. Go all the way down and nothing. All the way down and nothing. Oh my god. Oh, horrible. We would do that with the and nothing. Oh my god. Oh, horrible.
Starting point is 01:14:25 We would do that with the bench press. Oh, that's great. Or just curls. Go to the gym, grab your heaviest dumbbells you could do five reps with. And then I'd go to all the, you know, it's why it's start with like 50 pound dumbbells. And I'd go all the way down the rack
Starting point is 01:14:39 until I got down to five pound dumbbells. I haven't done that so long. Oh, and it's just- Let me do that today. I haven't done that so long. And see, this is the thing Let me just do that today. I haven't done that so long. And see, this is the thing that makes you feel like, I wanna fucking do it. Me too, I get excited talking about it.
Starting point is 01:14:49 It's, the thing is this, like, this would be a great time for me to do that. I haven't done that in years. Like, what a great stimulus for my body. The problem is, you know, back when I used to do it, I used to do it all the time. You know, it used to be like a thing that I did all the time. And I think that that's the takeaway for people when you talk about supersets, drop sets, compound sets, any of these,
Starting point is 01:15:09 you know, training to failure, like a lot of things that we talk about. There's lots of benefits to all those things. When you intermittently put them into your routine, you just got to be careful with what happens is when you intermittently put them in your routine and then you see a response, you're like, whoa, I feel stronger, I look better, then what do we do? We fall in love with it and then we continue to do it all the time into our routine, the body adapts to it and then you,
Starting point is 01:15:32 the results that you were getting, like you got from the beginning when you were intermittently doing it, begin to diminish. So being aware enough to know, okay, am I doing this law? And typically, anything that you do beyond three to four weeks when strength training the body tends to get pretty indebted
Starting point is 01:15:48 And there's gonna be individual variants some people can get away with it for five or six weeks Some people can probably only do it for two or three weeks and they started to see diminished But that's why we phased all the maps programs in that range of the three to four week range is that's kind of a sweet spot We found with clients is you is transitioning out of using that technique. So if you're training to failure, you're drop setting, you're super setting, you're doing any of these things, don't really allow yourself to do it much longer
Starting point is 01:16:14 than about three or four weeks before you kind of phase out of that. It's definitely not the staple, shouldn't be the staple. Right. Next question is from HECCA Stubborn. Have you ever gone through a period where you lost your passion or motivation for working out? Any advice for how to get it back? Hmm. Yes, this has happened to me a lot. And what has got me back into it is changing my focus. So a lot of times, you know, I'll have a
Starting point is 01:16:39 goal in mind that is important to me for whatever reason at that time. And then I'll either want to achieve that goal or I'll just get tired of just chasing that all the time and then it results in me not carrying anymore. So I love to challenge my body in different ways. One of the things recently that you've heard on the podcast if you've been listening for a long time, I really took the mobility thing to like a whole nother level for me
Starting point is 01:17:04 because I had never set a goal like that. It had never been a major goal. I really took the mobility thing to a whole other level for me because I had never set a goal like that. It had never been a major goal. How mobile can I take my in-mobile ass and instead of measuring my aesthetics because right before that, my main goal was how amazing can I make my body look and get on stage and present it in win plastic trophies?
Starting point is 01:17:23 That was fun, why it lasted. If you look at me now, I don't look anything like I looked like when I got on stage and present it in win plastic trophies. And that was fun, why it lasted. But I couldn't, like I don't, if you look at me now, I don't look anything like I look like when I got on stage. And I don't care because it's not my goal and why I've had other goals. And so I love to set new goals that are completely different. I think we tend to get so caught up in either the scale or how we look. And that's normally the driver for almost everybody
Starting point is 01:17:44 who goes to the gym, but set different types of goals. That's the perfect time I feel for me to learn something new, like in terms of skills. Yeah, like, like, mace bill, or this is what got me into a lot of this unconventional style training, just because moving my body in a different way and also trying to just learn all the little nuance things that are involved with unconventional trading. And I know that that's probably a deterrent for some people because they just want it to be super straightforward.
Starting point is 01:18:13 I just want dumbbells, I just want a barbells, nice and balanced, but I like to challenge my body in new ways, try new types of moves, where I have to twist, to turn, and really challenge my body. And so I could get fixated on something like that real easily. But I go through periods like this all the time where I'm like, I'm bored, I'm bored training.
Starting point is 01:18:36 What am I gonna do next? And so that's, if you could find something like an event or something to kind of stimulate, you know, that back. Even like a single move. So I had this discussion with Taylor and Enzo just a couple weeks ago. And, you know, I love talking to Taylor because Taylor does not have a passion for lifting weights.
Starting point is 01:18:57 The guy keeps his diet and check. He's got abs, he stays lean, he can fit in his skinny jeans. He don't give a fuck about building a bunch of muscle. You know what I'm saying? Like he doesn't care. Like it's not as, as long as he's healthy, he can fit in his skinny jeans. He don't give a fuck about building a bunch of muscle. You know what I'm saying? Like he doesn't care. As long as he's healthy, he wants to be healthy. And he is healthy. And so for him, he says, like, man, Adam,
Starting point is 01:19:12 sometimes I just, I don't feel like going on the gym and doing that. I was like, don't treat going on the gym. Always you have to follow our maps program. Like sometimes, Taylor, if you want, I taught him a Turkish get up. And they never done it before. And I'm like, dude, go to the gym. He's trying to be to look at it. I'm like, I taught him a Turkish get up. They never done it before. And I'm like, dude, go to the gym.
Starting point is 01:19:26 He's trying to me to look at it. I'm like, oh yeah, it's getting better. Right, so I go, you know what? When you come and you have those days, just do a whole hour of perfecting your Turkish get up and get it and he's like, I could do that. I'm like, of course you could do that. And there's so much great carryover from a movement
Starting point is 01:19:42 like that incorporates your entire body. And it actually is, it's very mentally stimulating for people that seek novelty, like most of us do, most of us humans do. So instead of always having to chase this aesthetic goal or this weight loss goal or weight gain goal or the way I look in the mirror, you know, pick a skill, pick a mace, pick a kettlebell,
Starting point is 01:20:00 pick up a, learn how to do a Turkish get up and I'll spend a whole hour on a move and perfecting the windmill or doing something like that. And for me, it's really refreshing when you've been doing what we've been doing for as long as we have. Like to me, I've already proven, I can build the most aesthetic physique. I've already proven, I can increase my vertical, I can already prove and I can increase my deadlift, my squat, I've done all those things. And so sometimes I don't give a shit about any of those things.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And so I'll pick something that I'm not good at. Like when you taught us the windmill, I'd never done all those things. And so sometimes I don't give a shit about any of those things. And so I'll pick something that I'm not good at. Like when you taught us the windmill, I'd never done the windmill three years ago. I went on a kick for like six months where that was like the staple move I did. Like I just, yeah. I did that with band press. It was just like, it's just fascinating
Starting point is 01:20:38 to see where you could go with it. Right. So I think that's a great piece of advice. It's funny when I hear that for me, it's a little bit different. But I started at 14 a great, great piece of the box. It's funny when I hear that for me, it's a little bit different, but I started at 14 and really, really quickly I fell completely in love with lifting weights.
Starting point is 01:20:53 I really, really did. And it quickly became something that I enjoyed doing for the sake of doing it, which is how I've been from now for, like I said, since I was 14 years old. So even till this day, working out for me, even if I don't get results out of it, or if I don't progress, I just like doing it, I just like doing it for the sake of doing it.
Starting point is 01:21:12 I think if you can get to the place where you enjoy doing it for the sake of doing it, then you're probably gonna find yourself be consistent more often than not, because you just enjoy doing it. The other thing too is that resistance training has changed for me throughout the years in terms of its utility. At some points, the utility of resistance training
Starting point is 01:21:32 for me was to build muscle. Other times it was to get leaner. At other times, it was to help me get through stress. Other times it was for rehab. Other times it was to help me get better for Jiu-Jitsu. But it's never, ever, ever left my side. I've never stopped resistance training for any, really length of period of time, except for when I've had,
Starting point is 01:21:53 like I had shoulder surgery and I couldn't let the fights or whatever. That was pretty much it. I can't think of any of the time, but my experience with it is just, it's very different, it's just something that, it's one of my absolute favorite things to do to this day. One of my favorite things to do is work out a hotel gym or work out a weird
Starting point is 01:22:08 gym or work out my garage or work out here. Like I can find enjoyment out of those things. Well, you've also learned and you're really good at this and it's something you teach on the show all the time. You've done a really good job of connecting what resistance training does in all the other aspects of your life. So you look at it different. And I think a lot of people struggle with this. Yeah. If you always look at it as building muscle, getting lean, you know, getting strut at some
Starting point is 01:22:34 point, you're not going to progress anymore in the gym. And then what are you going to do? Like it's going to be totally boring. It's going to suck for you. So it's just it's and you you touched on this atom about changing your goal, that's exactly what people need to do with resistance training, with exercises, change their goal, cause, but then you can get to a point where you stop needing goals, and that's the ultimate, I think, stage is when you don't need any goal anymore, you just enjoy it for the sake of doing it, you know what I'm saying? Like, it would be like saying, like, what's your goal for watching a movie? I don't have a goal, I just enjoy doing it. Well, that's the place you wanna get with resistance training.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Now, does that mean that I don't have workouts that I enjoy way more than others? Of course not. There's workouts that I fucking love, and then there's some workouts that are just like whatever, but I still enjoy it more than not doing it. Oh yeah, I look at it as it's just good for my body. And every day I just want to do things that are good for my body.
Starting point is 01:23:30 And so it's like getting out in nature, like relaxing, but also I need to challenge my body. And that's what's going to keep my body resilient and healthy and moving forward. And so I just want to, I want to get stronger. I reevaluate kind of where my deficiencies will lie and just, just hop and back in the weights always feels good. One of the hardest times to work out is when you feel, when you don't feel fit or your body's not responding. This was, this happened to me after, you know, back in the day, I used those over-the-counter designer steroids. And I remember going off of them and your body's not producing testosterone, you go to the gym and instead of getting stronger or even maintaining, you're just getting weaker every workout.
Starting point is 01:24:11 So imagine that, right? Imagine you go to the gym every day in your training and every day that you train, you got to go lighter and lighter and lighter. You're not getting a good pump. That was really rough. But what brought me through that period was realizing that it was better that I did it that I didn't. And also, again, put your headphones on or whatever, get in your thoughts, get into the weights, and just enjoy it for the sake of doing it. And this is a mindset that you can adopt with a lot of different things that will get you to do a lot of different things like chores. You can get, you could start to change your perception of what you're doing to the point where you enjoy it for the sake of doing it,
Starting point is 01:24:47 and you'll find that you'll be more consistent with those types of things. But motivation is a tough one, because you're not always gonna be motivated. So it's gotta be beyond motivation. Yeah. It can't just be, you know, at some point, you're not gonna be motivated
Starting point is 01:25:00 than what are you gonna do? Otherwise, you're on the wagon off the wagon. That's sort of like balance that you're always playing. That, you know what, a bad workout done consistently is going to give you better results than a great workout that's done inconsistently. So consistency is probably the most important factor when it comes to being active. And with that, look, go to mindpumpfree.com, go check out what we have that we're offering for free to our audience. So it's mindpumpfree.com get on there there's about 12 guides they're
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