Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 914: How to Naturally Improve Sex Drive, When to Use a Smith Machine, Overcoming Burnout & MORE

Episode Date: December 1, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to naturally improve libido ...in young men, benefits to using the smith machine, their opinion on debt and how to keep going when someone gets burnt out in their career. The Realization and Accepting that you are Getting Older. (5:28) Adam Making Poor Fashion Choices?? (10:40) Relationships, Going to Bed at the Same Time & MORE. (15:20) SIBO Treatment with Herbs Is as Effective as Antibiotics. (19:55) Can Sex Toys be Hacked??!! (26:11) Artificially Creating Activity? Garmin and Disney Partner Up. (29:55) For older people, weight training is more important than cardio exercise: study. (33:37) LeBron James, Other Celebrities Team Up to Start Wellness Brand ‘Ladder’. (37:35) How Technology will Inevitably Change the Legally of Laws. NBA Signs First Data Partnerships for In-Game Gambling, War on Drugs & MORE. (44:05) Health IQ Making Big Waves!! (56:12) Do Allergies Protect Us? (58:30) #Quah question #1 - How to naturally improve libido in young men? (1:03:35) #Quah question #2 – Are their benefits to using the smith machine? (1:14:12) #Quah question #3 – What is your opinion on debt? Did you take out any loans for the business? (1:22:25) #Quah question #4 - How to keep going when someone gets burnt out in their career? (1:34:21) People Mentioned: Dr. Michael Ruscio (@drruscio)  Instagram Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf)  Instagram Cory Schlesinger (@schlesstrength)  Instagram Links/Products Mentioned: November Promotion: MAPS Anywhere ½ off!! **Ending at Midnight 11/30 – Code “WHITE50” at checkout** MAPS Fitness Products Health IQ **Free Quote** Health IQ and Protective Life Launch First Life Insurance Offering Tailored for Diabetics Who Live a Healthy Lifestyle Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Greg Lauren - Grandad-Collar Panelled Distressed Denim And Checked Cotton-Twill Shirt Kith NYC SIBO Treatment with Herbs Is as Effective as Antibiotics Mind Pump Episode 815: Going Deeper with Sex with Emily ‘Panty Buster’ sex toys can be hacked to ‘remotely pleasure people without their consent’, researchers claim Garmin® and Disney bring motivation and imagination to the playground with the introduction of the vívofit® jr. 2 activity tracker for kids featuring Disney, Star Wars and Marvel Lifting weights is better for your heart than cardio: study Lose fat, preserve muscle: Weight training beats cardio for older adults LeBron James, Other Celebrities Team Up to Start Wellness Brand ‘Ladder’ NBA Signs First Data Partnerships for In-Game Gambling People Are Threatening to Report Sex Workers to the IRS in #ThotAudit Black Mirror | Netflix Official Site Do Allergies Protect Us? The NoFap Phenomenon | Psychology Today Seinfeld | The Contest | Master of your domain Mind Pump Episode 907: Cory Schlesinger Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. Hey Justin, hey, Sal, what's up, man? Guess what? What? In this episode of MindPow! Oh, I see you did that.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I got you. For the first 58 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. We start out by talking about the realities of aging. Oh, it's real, everybody. We're all getting older, something's happening here. Then I talk about a SIBO study. SIBO stands for Small and Testinal Bacterial Overgrowth. And we talk about Natural Antimicrobial.
Starting point is 00:00:43 It's like Tiboe in the sea. There was a study that showed that herbal formulas actually worked better or as good as antibiotics to treat this. And we did mention some natural antimicrobials. For example, turmeric contains a component called cumin that does kill microbes. This may be why turmeric is good for the gut.
Starting point is 00:01:01 We are sponsored by Organify. They have some excellent turmeric. If you go to Organify.com for a slash mine pump and use a code mine pump, you'll get 20% off. By the way, they also have organic proteins and organic green juices and red juices and good stuff. Then we talk about hacked sex toys. They got some advanced Bluetooth sex toys. Apparently, those can get hacked and somebody else can be pleasuring. Who's really turning you on? That's right Adam. Then we talk about Garmin and Disney. I guess they partnered up to provide step counters.
Starting point is 00:01:33 That's a natural transition. You like that? Right from the hack six toys to children's step counters. Yeah, makes them sick bastard. That's the best of that. Yeah. then we talked about the study done on elderly individuals that showed that cardio and dieting caused them to lose a shit ton of weight, but a lot of it was muscle. In fact, a big chunk of it was muscle. So now doctors are saying, lift weights, that's the best way to do it.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Finally guys, lift weights, America. You're finally on board with the weights. Then we talked about the new wellness company that's been started by Arnold Schwarzenegger, LeBron James, Lindsey Vaughn and Cindy Crawford. We speculate as to whether or not this company is gonna be providing good information or if it's just gonna be another one of those,
Starting point is 00:02:16 you know, flash in the pan. And the chopper! Bologna type companies. We talked about gambling and drug legalization. Oh yeah! We're pro legalization of everything. Yeah, let's bring it on. Health IQ made it in the news again, all over the place. They are offering life insurance for fit and healthy people, but they've added a new category fit in healthy people with
Starting point is 00:02:39 diabetes. And I can wave. So they're pretty awesome company. If you go to healthiq.com forward slash mind pump, you can scroll to the bottom of the page, take their free quiz, and get a free quote for life insurance. And then we talked about people with allergies and their cancer risk. So that intro was about 58 minutes, and then we get into the fitness questions. The first question was, how do we naturally improve libido and young men? So if you're young guy and your libido is suffering, we give you some advice and if you want more help, you can go on Adam's Instagram. It might stimulate your libido. Somebody's guys out there helped in young guys. Next question was, are there any benefits to using this Smith machine?
Starting point is 00:03:29 This machine can provide some benefits just in hates it. These is a coat hanger. Find out why in this episode. The next question is, of course, we're experts in fitness. We know a lot about exercise, but we're also experts in everything else. You know this. And that's all we answer this question on debt. What are our opinions on debt?
Starting point is 00:03:48 And did we take out any loans for our business, financial brilliance? Here, our pretend expert advice in that segment of this episode. And the last question, did we ever get burnt out in our careers with clients? Like they were ever get to the point where like, ah, I don't want a personal training more. This is just too much. Or did we always love it all the time? I love it, I love it, I love it. Find out at the end of the episode.
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Starting point is 00:05:23 mapsfitinistproducts.com. What if you got some weird shit, bro? I probably do. It's fucking part of it, right? And you can't be handsome, big dick, great looking and smart. Something has to go down. This is a low shelf life.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Yeah, it's just, it's so easy. You made the deal with God. Yeah, God, go ahead. You're weird feelings in your fingers. Or the devil, I'm not sure which one it was. Yeah, you're your ass crack. Yeah, but that will. What do you look at me?
Starting point is 00:05:48 The devil's life, hey man. You're gonna be good until you hit close to 40 then it's all gonna fall apart. Yeah, I don't care, that's a long time. Yeah, it's so long. I'm going out in flames. When you're 12 it sounds, so that sounds like such a long way ways, right?
Starting point is 00:05:59 Doesn't it? Yeah, it's like three lives. Three, I know, right? That sounded like such an old man. I think it is 40 Think about it right now. Let's just stop for a second middle the road Bro 40 is like there's no doubt
Starting point is 00:06:13 Shit is going down. You know what I'm saying? Well, it's changed. It's a massive shift You can't tell me because Justin how old are you turning in February 39? 39? Yeah, you can't tell me that you haven't noticed over the last, it's probably last four years. Of course. Just slow decline in your... Just certain things, right? Like I was telling Courtney about this. Like I was deadlifting and then, like I had a bit of a strain
Starting point is 00:06:36 and strain my muscles. Isn't my form flex or whatever it was, part of my bicep. And it's been six months, and it's just like this dull, achy pain I just didn't learn. It is still living with, it hasn't left. God damn it. And I do all my prime sessions,
Starting point is 00:06:53 and I'm all diligent about mobility, but it's just one of those things like, interesting. This hasn't gone away. The other day, I did an extra long workout with more volume. And I was so proud, I was like, fuck, I did an extra long workout with more volume. And I was so proud. I was like, fuck, I felt good. I got a good pump.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And then I'm like, all my workouts used to be like this. Oh, no, that's such a depressing thought. Bro, do you ever get that relation? Yeah. You have one good workout. Yeah, you're so happy that, David, because you champion Like that one workout, like, yeah, you're right. Every workout was a champion workout. I remember when I said this all the time.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. And now it's week sausage. Yeah. You sort of just, yeah, you accept it. Yeah. So I, and here's the worst part, you're ready for this. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:40 So tell me, hold man. You'll be turning 40. That means in 10 years will be 50. Oh Yeah, that's even weird 10 sorry Doug 10 years He's like snuck that weird guy. Well, here's the problem 10 years goes by so fast now That when I say in 10 years will be 50 it gives you a shiver When you were 30 if I said all bro in 10 years before you back whatever. Yeah, Yeah, that seems so distant. Yeah, no 10 years is tomorrow. Yeah, happened so fast I don't know we're there and then you know Adam. He's younger, but he's aging so quickly right now. Oh, this clothes don't tell you that story
Starting point is 00:08:16 He's on the edge of the cliff. He still knows like the crampers finger nails are just like, Pretendin' as hard as I can over here. Pretendin' Pretendin' Are you gonna be that dude? I used to say that when like someone combed him in I'd be working out like, Oh, you training hard today not just pretendin'. Pretendin' I'm just pretendin'
Starting point is 00:08:34 It's all in the grimace. Are you gonna be that guy in the gym? There's always a guy like this in every 24-hour fitness at least the ones I ran where he's like 60 something but his hair is jet black cause he dies the fuck out of it. And he's like super white. I hope I'm that guy.
Starting point is 00:08:47 I might turn into that. Yeah, I hope I'm that guy. I don't have any hair, right? I'm certain to lose it so much. If I got it in 10, 15 years, tall, I'm gonna tell you. Yeah, he'd have written the sweet spot. I did something right.
Starting point is 00:08:57 Son of a bitch. Yeah, I forgot about that. In sensitive bass. No, I remember the Thanksgiving video that went live up on the YouTube. We had a conversation with me, Enzo, Eli, and Taylor about fashion and stuff. I said, man, when you're a kid, it's easy. You just got to stay on what's up and up with the hip-new, artist or whatever, follow them and then whatever they're doing, you can do and you're fine.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Because you have all your peers there, like in proximity. Right, and it's, but when you're my age, it's, you got it, there's a fine line of staying hip and then looking like the old guy trying, and breaking your hip. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very fine line.
Starting point is 00:09:38 There is a very, you gotta be careful, very fine line in that. So there's certain things that you can just adopt and there's other things that you just you can't so But I think as you age you have a little more wins wisdom so you can see trends and you can go Okay, this is a cool trend that's gonna ride for a while This is and then other trends you go like oh, this is stupid. It's not gonna be cool very long And I'm gonna look more stupid trying to do it right now, so you got to know which is which yeah, you do if you mess up
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, now you're the creepy guy. Yes, yeah. See, I'll never be the creepy guy. It's just a tough dance. Because you just ignore it, just saying nothing and it falls for the- So just go classic consistent. Classic style. Yeah, I gave up a long-term.
Starting point is 00:10:15 If you're just staying consistently out of style, it's almost better. It is, because no one's gonna be like, he's creepy even though I am. You make up a style and you stick with it to the death. That's it, Justin's with me. That's what I- He's got the mountain skater mountain shoulder Mechanic kind of thing. I don't know what to call it. I don't know what to call it dirty baseball has turkey baseball dirty
Starting point is 00:10:35 Dirty is the new clean. It's Actually true funny. You say that I should have Doug pull this up you guys will you guys will shit yourself You see all these kids wearing like holy jeans and, you know, so shit. Do you remember? You remember in Zoolander, I have to have Doug pull this up. Doug pull up Barney's. And so I'm shopping last night online.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And you remember in Zoolander where they did the Derek Zoolander does the, the, the, the campaign, they, they try and trick him in at doing the trash campaign. Yeah. Like shitty bummy. Yeah. Okay, so this is Barney's, not Barney's like that with a Y, Doug, with a Y. And it's where you buy clothes.
Starting point is 00:11:14 It's a fancy, like a Norge Trums, but even higher end. It's the one Barney and I want to do it. Just do Barney's a parallel. Yeah, because I know Barney and Ginkie and Gimini. If I have to, I'll send it over. That's the Barney I know. So go to Men's a parallel. Yeah, because I know, I know Barney. I can't get in. Give me the imagery. If I have to, I'll send it over. That's the Barney I know. So go to Men's a parallel.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Yeah, that's as you're on the right, do all of it. I want to show you guys this, because you're talking about like, these are like flannel tops, like Justin word, but the style is this, you know, half flannel, half denim looks like your mom sewed it together. It's got holes, it's all fucked up. It might be in my time.
Starting point is 00:11:43 You're not. What's that number right there? That's nothing. I'm gonna have to do this. It's got stripes in the middle. It's almost like a mid-drift. I'm gonna, I'll send you the link because I need to put, you're ruining my story.
Starting point is 00:11:57 There you go. So send it to the other guy. You can't read your mind, Adam. No, no. What I wanted to show you guys was, I'm online and I'm shopping and I, of course, you know, I like it. I go, I like this.
Starting point is 00:12:11 It's kind of cool, actually. I would rock this. And then I look it up and it's $2,400 for sure. What? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And if, and if I know, and the first thing that came to mind, I thought, if Justin and Sal saw what was for, see Doug, it was right on the front page and you could even catch look at this shirt. Oh, what the hell is that? Ugly piece of shit. That is the worst if I bought a $1,200 shirt
Starting point is 00:12:35 What are those pants? It was leather with like zipper thing? It would be the only shirt ever wore forever Like that's the only way you could sell me if you say hey listen Here's a $1,200 shirt. So, we'll never have to buy another shirt. Don't know the guy that's rocking this. You can Google Greg Lauren. So, that's the designer. So, Greg, GRE, and then Lauren, L-A-U-R-E-N,
Starting point is 00:12:55 and then the images that pop right up. Okay, look at the scroll up so the guys can see the price. The other direction, Doug. Right there. Oh, $4,000. Yeah. Why? And click on that one. Actually, this is the one I was looking at No, you weren't I swear you were gonna wear this
Starting point is 00:13:10 You don't do that. That's for women by the way That's for women you were looking at that one. No dog is fucking Doug the very first one That's for men right there click on it Oh that one that's still terrible. Yes, that one click on it. You know what? It's like it morphed. It's like one idea morphed into another and just like melted its way in. You know what? I'll say this sold out, bro. Sold out. Yeah, cuz they sold to I tell you what I tell you what you know as we continue to grow the business We might as well just get them. I just want to buy that for you just to see where it. I want to see you wear a I would I would that's a 4,000. I would wear that. No, I like it. Would you know if I'd let you?
Starting point is 00:13:46 Why would you wear that? It's ugly. Yeah. I don't care if it's 4,000 dollar. I like to so, if you keep going down, I actually really like this that one right there. Yeah, it's so rich. Bro, it looks like, what?
Starting point is 00:13:55 It doesn't make any sense is what it looks like. Well, what does it make sense? It's like a bum like sewed it together. You know, you found it in a trash can. Yeah, fuck. I knew you guys, I knew you guys were just freak out. So I had to pull this up. You saw this is what I'm online last night
Starting point is 00:14:08 and this is what I thought. Well, I was on one of my, on one of my websites that I pull up stuff and I shop at kith.com all the time. And it's a, if you better stop mentioning these sponsors, we don't have connections with or what are these non-sponsors. Yeah, no. And I found that jacket and I'm like, oh, I really like this. And then I was like, fuck, do that's so expensive.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Let me go directly to the designer and see if I can find some better deals on it. And then it just got more expensive. And I was like, oh my god. This actually looks like the lining of the jacket and the jacket got eaten by a bunch of bugs. And then it exposed the lining. But the two things that came to mind right away was one I have to show this to the boys because they will just freak out that there's something that even costs as much because I figured you guys Would you know?
Starting point is 00:14:54 This is my impression of that's hilarious. This is that I'm searching for something like that So he's searching through and he's like, oh, I think I like that clicks on it. Oh $4,000. Of course. I of course I like it I'm I'm just I like it clicks on it. Oh, $4,000. Of course, I of course, I like it. I'm just I like it. It did go down. I'm good taste. It did go down. If it was $14, be like, wait a minute. I something's wrong here. Why do I like it? Yeah, but I can't think of something Walmart. Yeah. No, you know, as you get older, you get more wisdom, but boy, do you trade a lot of shit for that? Don't you? Like I did, we did the Thanksgiving workout. Let me tell you guys what I did. I was very proud of myself. Here's the circuit that we put together.
Starting point is 00:15:27 You guys saw the sled out there. How much weight do you think's on there? I know, it was stacked like four plates high, yeah. Yeah, so what is that? 300 pound, 400 pounds? Maybe, something like that. Maybe 400 pounds, right? So we did, I did 400 pound dead lifts, I did five reps,
Starting point is 00:15:40 then I pushed the sled all the way over here, then I picked up the 200 pound sandbag and carried it to the other end. That's a fucking legit workout. I was very proud of myself. That's heavy, that's hard. Just that sandbag alone is impressive. That thing's a fucking monster. Bro, I was fucking feeling so proud of myself.
Starting point is 00:15:56 And then I went to bed at 8 o'clock that night. You know what I'm saying? Then 8 o'clock rolls around. Which is seriously what were you at? I'm just like, ah, those are the next day. And I look up and even make date line up. No, were you? Yeah, I'm just like, ah, those of us day or probably, we're just gonna see. And I look at them and even make date line up. No, I look at you, I miss 60 minutes.
Starting point is 00:16:08 Oh, murder sheer outside? No, it's funny because I look at Jessica and I'm like, oh man, she's already sure to nose, but I start to say it's like, man, I'm tired, she's like, no, it's only eight o'clock. We're not gonna be in her room.
Starting point is 00:16:18 No, I don't know, babe. That's the positive thing about dating like a younger girl, but my girl's like, right, with me. If I convince her to hunt, and she gets up earlier with me, so I'm like, oh man't know, babe. That's the positive thing about dating like a younger girl, but my girl's like, right, with me. If I convince her to hug and she gets up earlier me, so I'm like, oh man, it's eight or nine, I feel like going to pet. She's like, really, you wanna go bed? No, I'm down.
Starting point is 00:16:31 She's like, always ready to go to bed early. Yeah, for sure. No, I have to convince Jessica to go to bed early. She wants to get youth still. She got youth on her side. Courtney works late, so she's always like, oh, you're going to bed? You old man.
Starting point is 00:16:42 And like, you know, just belittling me. Now, will she stay up and watch TV while you go to bed? Sometimes if it's like, if it's for, yeah, yeah, exactly. If it's like a outlander or one of those, or yeah, it's like, she's interested. Well, I'm always interested in relationships to do this. Like, I would do this, but Katrina's just can't, won't do.
Starting point is 00:17:00 No, you're, she's absolutely right. Cause there's some people there, like, like, even if it was like, for me, I know some of my friends are like, no, come to bed, like everybody has to go to bed at the same time. That's Katrina, she'll get mad at me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:13 If she wants to, if she's like, I'm ready for bed, let's go to bed. And I'm like, and I wanna stay up and watch something or I'm still on my phone, like should give me like attitude. Yeah, that's Jessica.
Starting point is 00:17:22 I'm just like, geez, why do I have to fuck every time? Just cause you wanna retire. Yeah, I got, I got, I got, I Jessica. I'm just like, geez, why do I have to fuck every tire? Just because you wanna retire. Yeah, I got, I got, I got, I got, I were both cool, I got, I got in trouble because she went to bed early one night. She's like, oh, I'm so tired, I wanna go to bed. It was like nine, nine, 15.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I'm like, okay, honey, and she goes to bed and I pull out my phone and I'm laying, I'm laying in bed next to her. She's like, how come when I wanna go to bed early, you wanna stay up, but every time you go to bed early, I go to bed and I'm like, I mean, that's up to you. You don't have to go to bed early. That to bed and I'm like, I mean that's up to you No, but I get it I get it's like eating together and doing things together. I hang out. Yeah Yeah, but you know I said fuck we do everything together
Starting point is 00:17:56 We live together. You don't say it is your girl. Do your girls try to talk to you through the door while you're pooping? She comes in like and she puts her like hand over her face and like grabs things and I'm like, excuse me Just matter if I lock the door because of some reason she always forget something in there and I'm like, dude It's like my private time. No lucky. That's one thing that I mean you guys know you guys know Katrina and I went we don't fart from each other We don't shit in in front of each other. How does she feel about the fact that you farted in front of me and Justin, like a hundred times?
Starting point is 00:18:28 She's like, really loud, she don't care, it's just for her, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, she don't want to have to deal with it. And I'm with her on that, we're both in agreement. One day of things. You say that. I'm like, oh, I got mine out of the way quick. You see, so then you see, you sprinted out
Starting point is 00:18:42 the room real quick. One day you're gonna go, she heard me through the walls Let it be known When they will pick up something heavy. Oh shit We we I mean we have we have three bathrooms and we have one on the third bottom floor, right? And so that's your poop. Yeah, it's like that's like the that's like the neutral poop bathroom So I know if she's down there doing the same thing. It's like this mutual respect.
Starting point is 00:19:05 They, hey, listen, you go shit downstairs. We're not in a trash. It's out of the house. Yeah, right. You go to the bathroom. All you have to do is walk all the way. You walk down the last, the last, last flat of stairs. I kind of like the idea of an outhouse though.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Yeah. Yeah, but like the whole part about like having to go way outside to go there, you know, that was a little bit of a deterrent. Oh, no, my, I blast everybody. Yeah. You blast. Yeah, there's no that was a little bit of a journey. Oh, no, I blast everybody. You blast everyone. Yeah, there's no- My kids are the worst, they've blasted me and laughed, and you know, they save them for me.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah, I gotta be careful now, because I've taught my kids now that it's cool to do that. So now my daughter, who's, you know, nine-year-old little girl, if she feels going, coming on, she'll come up to me, hey, Bob, can you hold me for a second? I'll be like, sure, honey. A holder, and she'll just, I'll be like, oh, she'll come up to me. Hey, Bob, can you hold me for a second? I'll be like, sure, honey. A holder and she'll just, I'll be like,
Starting point is 00:19:47 oh, she laughs. And I appreciate it. Yeah, that's good time. You can't help it. Anyway, dude, I want to bring up some scientific studies for you guys. Ooh, dropping us some knowledge. So I read this study, so check this out.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Did I tell you guys about the SIBO study? Do you guys know what SIBO is? Yes, overgrowth. There's bacteria. Actually, that's pretty correct, Justin. So SIBO is small and intestinal bacterial overgrowth, and it's something that probably afflicts a lot more people than people realize.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And the symptoms of this are severe not just... Stylistybo. No, I was trying to think of that. No, it's not a kickboxing class than people realize. And the symptoms of this are severe not just... Not like a typo. No, I was trying to think of that. No, it's not a kickboxing class that you take at the local gym. Good. But it's when you have bacteria in your small intestine that is just taking over.
Starting point is 00:20:36 And it can do everything from affect your digestion, cause bloating, diarrhea, gas, like one of the common symptoms is, you know, every time I eat, I get bloated. I don't know what's wrong with me. every time I eat, I get bloated. I don't know what's wrong with me. Every time I eat, my stomach feels super bloated. That's a common symptom of SIBO, for example.
Starting point is 00:20:50 But it can get really bad where the bacteria puts off so many toxins that people can have some serious issues like arthritic symptoms and other autoimmune type issues where, for example, my uncle who got diagnosed with SIBO, his gal and his arthritis got so bad that he could barely walk. Once he got diagnosed with SIBO and treated it within a few weeks, symptoms were completely gone. So that's how bad this can be. Makes a massive difference.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah, and it's becoming apparently more and more common, not because people have it more, but I think we're able to diagnose it better anyway. So what are, like, how do you manage it in terms of, like, like, we're talking about intermittent fasting, changing up your diet, obviously? Well, so the causes of SIBO, there's lots of causes, and we've talked about a lot of things that can cause these issues. Everything from eating poorly to not being active, to, you know, not having good microbiota in your gut, and all the stuff we've talked about on the show. But, you know, I read this study because I was looking up SIBO and looking up the symptoms
Starting point is 00:21:50 and I found this study that compared the traditional pharmaceutical antibiotic treatment of SIBO to an herbal formulation to treat SIBO. So they actually had a group and it was a well-made study, where they had a group of people who had tested positive for sebo through two different tests. One side, they gave them the antibiotics. The other side, they gave them this herbal formula,
Starting point is 00:22:14 because there are natural herbal antimicrobials. There's herbs that you can eat, or take, that will kill like oregano oil, and olive leaf and peppermint oil, for example, that will kill bacteria. I heard about this. I forget which podcast I was listening to, but there was like, they're talking all about spices and like some of the properties different spices have in terms of being antimicrobial and where you find them in terms of like them being on the equator, you tend to see a lot more spices and why they use it in their diet.
Starting point is 00:22:46 Dude, you were telling me this earlier, this is crazy because it makes perfect sense. Like you look at some of the spiciest cuisines and they're near these areas where a lot of these pathogens tend to proliferate because of the warmth and the moisture. Right. And so the cultures develop these dishes,
Starting point is 00:23:01 this is the theory, right, where they put like a shit ton of hot pepper or they put a ton of wasabi, like you said, the Japanese eating raw fish. Yeah, they speculate that that's the reason why that wasabi was paired with sushi. Wow. And then Krakumin, which is found in turmeric. You know, one of the reasons why turmeric is some people have lots of gut health benefits from it is If you have these kind of bacterial overgrowth that turmeric may be one of those antimicrobials That's natural that helps kind of like Dr. Ruscio says Cut the hedges a little bit like trim off the hedges to clean things up And I have I still use the organified turmeric. Yeah, I love they have a good quality one
Starting point is 00:23:44 I haven't used that in a while, yeah. I use it all the time. But the study compared the herbal formula to the antibiotic, and guess what? The herbal formula was as good or a little bit better according to the study. So, yes, so if you have SIBO, you can look this study, I'll put it in the show notes,
Starting point is 00:24:01 and you can see what they used to give these people, and it worked well. But of course, it's better than the antibiotics, it's not an antibiotic. It's not a drug. Get it from natural sources. Yeah, and the thing about SIBO that they're saying is that you need to treat it for a long period of time.
Starting point is 00:24:16 So you should take these antimicrobials for three months or six months or even a year to get everything to work better. But this is what I've been messing with and it's definitely positively affected me. That's interesting. I wonder what the percentages of people who are not diagnosed with seabull that probably have it.
Starting point is 00:24:36 I wonder how often like a lot of these symptoms they don't realize are stemming from that. Or early cases of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, one of the other thing too is a lot of times people will say, if I eat a no carb, no grain diet, then I don't get the bloating and stuff. Well, that may be because the type of bacterial overgrowth
Starting point is 00:24:57 that you have feeds on starches and carbohydrates. And so when you eat them, you just bloat. And so that might be a way to manage the symptoms of having something like SIBO. It'd be good to have another Dr. Ruscio come on and ask him these questions about it. But I thought it was fascinating because they compared very rarely what an herbal formula do as well as antibiotics when it comes to, yep, there it is right there. Well, I'll put it on our list. He's scheduled for in a week or two.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Oh, is he really? Is it December or January? I don't remember if we have, I'll put it on our list. He's scheduled for in a week or two. Oh, is he really? Is it December or January? I don't remember if we have, I know he's on the calendar for sure. We were talking just the other day. He still does this to me all the time, where he'll text me like, Hey, let's do this.
Starting point is 00:25:33 I'm like, dude, I don't, I don't fucking know what we're doing tomorrow. I'll say, you have access to come on here. Anytime you want to, I love having you on the show. Just don't go through me. I don't know what to tell you. Otherwise, you'll just be waiting to hear back from me.
Starting point is 00:25:43 I'll never get back to you on it. Yeah. Very cool, though. I'm glad they found this because you know, it's something you can buy over the counter. It's not an antibiotic. So the symptom, the side effects are probably less, you know, not always but less antibiotics themselves or not. You don't want to overdiagnose those or overuse those. And a lot of people, and it probably won't hurt. You know what I mean? So if you have issues, you could probably try this and see if it works for you. So anyway, I think that's, that's pretty cool. Yeah. I have another article for you guys. It's not science, but pretty hilarious. This was an article that was published in, it was a UK website that published this. But there's these, some hackers took took some They took some journalists with them and they showed them that so you know how like sex toys are starting to get more advanced now
Starting point is 00:26:30 And they're having sex toys now Yeah, and Justin knows. Yeah, and you know they have sex toys now that you can it's pretty crazy You can like message with your phone like didn't you guys get that? Vibe yeah didn't you guys get that? We vibe. Yeah. We're all responsible for Emily. Yeah. How does that work? Right. So she inserts it, right? Endure. So I don't have that way.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yes. Well, they tell us. I'm walking through this. I'm explaining the process. Right. So they understand how that works. Right. The part of it goes in.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah. She inserts the toy. And then it's Bluetooth connected. And you can control it for anywhere. So I could, I controlled the on and off and the vibration of it and the speed of it. You could put the favorite sort of vibration and then just hammer them. And you know, and I can, I can FaceTime
Starting point is 00:27:15 hurt the same time so you can open the app, you can actually phone call. So Skype, I can Skype over to her and then I, and she could, I can be looking at her and then I could also be controlling the Wevibe thing. Oh, that's so cool. Yeah, that's so cool. So anyway, these are big things now,
Starting point is 00:27:30 apparently they're selling like crazy. Well, this hacker took these journalists and he said, these things are super easy to hack. So through his own computer, he was able to drive through neighborhoods, he's able to drive through neighborhoods, detect where they are, and then turn them on Yeah, through hacking with them. So he can actually pick them up in his car driving through his neighborhood Detect where they're at and then just turn them on like the a blue tooth
Starting point is 00:27:58 Or I guess so I guess so what happens when you have like the actual sex robots that are like full-size and someone turns it on It comes out of your closet. Yeah, I freaked out. I guess over. What happens when you have the actual sex robots that are full-size and someone turns it on and it comes out of your closet? I'm freaked out. You got Nanna over. I'll just see. Did I ever tell you guys about that? God damn it, shearing you back at the closet. It's time.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Turn off. He is me. Turn off. Turn off. Not on. Did I tell you the time, something like that happened to me? Wait, what? This is when I was years ago when I was married.
Starting point is 00:28:26 We had this guy come and he had to look under our house because there was like a leak or something. Yeah. So he's under our house, working on our pipes and he comes in the house and he's like, he goes, you know, I fixed it, but I hear like a weird sound coming from under your house. So I'm like, what? So I crawl under him and I hear it and it's like,
Starting point is 00:28:45 boom, and I'm like, what is that? So we're going through the hole under the house. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck this sound is. And then I identify like, okay, what's directly above this part of the house? I'm like, it's my room. So I go in my bedroom and I walk in the closet and I guess one of our six toys fell out of the bag
Starting point is 00:29:04 or whatever and turned on it was just on the floor. When was this rattling around? This was years ago. It was on the floor. Oh my god. Just the front kids ever found one. Hell no.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Oh my god. Why is it so young? No. We've been so young. So young to wear it. Like playing G.I. Yeah, I was like doing like lightsaber moves with it and everything in front of Courtney. I was rolling on the floor so hard.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Oh my God, she's, she'd be mortified for me just even bring that up right now. Terrible. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. We put away right away. You got to put that shit in the lock box. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Yeah, damn it. I'm a cord to get a sex box. Yeah. I know to get her for Christmas. We need to hide our dungeon. Yeah, from the kids. That's, yeah, kids'm a court to get a sex box. Yeah, I know to get her for granted. We need to hide our dungeon, from the kids. That's how, yeah, kids will get into everything. They will, they'll find it, you gotta watch out. And you're like, you know, I'm trying to.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Speaking of that, Garmin just partnered with Disney. You like that transition? Yeah, I'm pretty good. I have. Speaking of sex toys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's always Disney. No, I saw, like I was a Garmin.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah, we were at the theaters and I saw that they had this tracker they were promoting. It was like some princess tracker that was like a gamified experience. They track all the steps, they sleep. This is hitting the level of like little kids now. Wait a minute. So it's a tracker for kids, but it's based on the princesses or something. Yeah, exactly. And they make it sort of interactive.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And so they have no adventures with it. I was like, brilliant. Yeah. But it's just interesting, because like, you know, the younger we sort of get people involved with this kind of like aggregating data and metrics and all that, it's interesting, because that's going to be what they're growing up with. You know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:30:42 You imagine going back in time, just 50 years, and talking to an adult and being like, you know, in the future, you have to like really, you have to trick your kids into like running around. You know what I mean? You have to like buy things to convince them to move and run around. Yeah. Well, that's what all I could think about when we were interviewing Joe Dessena was like, you're recreating like, play stress and it will playena, was like, you're recreating
Starting point is 00:31:05 like stress and it will play, but also like, trying to recreate like adversity and like things for them to like overcome and like, you know, what does that look like? You know, in terms of like today's culture and everything, it's like you really have to like, like sort of artificially like replicate it now. You do, I mean, you have to,
Starting point is 00:31:26 this is brilliant. Isn't that crazy? No, look at those watches. It's brilliant. You have to, well, you already have to recreate physical stresses by going to the gym. Well, that's it, that's what the gym became, right? So, I mean, yeah, that totally makes sense.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Now, how do you guys feel about this? Are you pro against what you think? What about this right here? Well, I mean, here's the deal. I was just telling it, I mean. I like it. You have to plan it and schedule it and make it happen now. It didn't happen now on its own.
Starting point is 00:31:51 I think it makes sense now. Yeah, it does, exactly. It does. Well, you guys said it before, you just don't, your kids just don't actually go outside and play. And it's not intuitive, like it used to be. Yeah, and now it's almost like a form of punishment
Starting point is 00:32:04 like to make them go do it. So we've got it fine, and you don't want to do that, right? Nobody wants to tell their kid, you know, get off your phone, you're in trouble, go outside and play, like it doesn't even make sense. Like, kids are gonna resent you for it, and you'll never want to exercise at that rate. So finding a creative way to get kids to move more
Starting point is 00:32:19 and be more active, I'm pro. I think it's cool, I think it's a really cool idea. Yeah. I think there's definitely a lot we can address with kids that will help them have better patterns going forward too. And so like that with education would be it. I think it's a smart move. Yeah. I think one of the more in your right though, you don't want to force kids because how many times did you guys train a client who was a athlete as a kid, athlete as a college student, but kind of did it because their parents pushed them into it?
Starting point is 00:32:50 Sure. And then afterwards they like, that's it, they stopped. Right. Everything. Once they became old enough to make their own decisions or their parents didn't have that influence over them. Yeah. And they're like, I had a lot of clients like that. Like, there was one girl that I trained.
Starting point is 00:33:00 My friends were like that. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I had one girl that I trained who was a high-level swimmer and she she was so against swimming when she was old enough to quit that she wouldn't even have her kids you know do competitive swimming because she had such a bad experience because she was forced to do so much of it all the time and then you also can develop some pretty bad eating habits when you're training you know that much with some of these things. So you got to kind of, what a hard, what a weird challenge that we're presented with now.
Starting point is 00:33:30 You know what I mean? Yeah. It's so strange. Anyway, pretty crazy on these challenges. So more, more cool news that is recent. So this is recent now. So you know how you, I told you guys about that, that article. Now that's going mainstream.
Starting point is 00:33:44 It's getting shared by everybody that shows that weight training is better for the heart than cardio. Right, I know. I was introducing a few people to that just for recently. Right. Right. Now, I want to be clear to you before I move on, go ahead. The combination of weight training with cardio is the best.
Starting point is 00:34:01 But the study showed if you had to pick one, the one to pick would be resistance training. And this is the argument we've been making for a long time. That in today's world, in the context of modern life, you want to lift weights. That's one of the most important things you could possibly do. Well, a study came out out of Wake Forest University that found that weight training is far more effective than cardio for older people.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Now, this for us is duh, right? We know about this, but what they found in the study, and this is a medical, like this is now, this just got shared, so this is now starting to make the round. It was on the news the other day. About the older people. Yeah, it was so funny because you mentioned this,
Starting point is 00:34:36 we were talking about it, and then my sister called me in the morning, because she was, I think it was CNN, she was watching it on, and she says like, oh, crazy, yeah, just listening to you guys on the show talking about how this can become so mainstream and they were making that claim. That weight training is far superior than running anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:54 And so it's here, dude. Well, check this out. I love this because it only confirms what we've been talking about for a long time based on our experience. And a lot of the stuff that we say at first isn't necessarily supported by studies, but it's just our own observation
Starting point is 00:35:10 after training so many people over two decades, right? And one of the things that we've been saying for a long time is if all you do is cardio and you cut calories, you are going to slow your metabolism down and the way your body slows down at some metabolism is by bringing muscle down. Because endurance, which down, and the way your body slows down its metabolism is by bringing muscle down. Because endurance, which is what you're asking your body
Starting point is 00:35:29 to do when you're doing cardio, lots of endurance doesn't require lots of strength, but you're also burning lots of calories by doing the cardio, so your body tries to become more efficient by reducing the muscle mass, increasing your endurance, slower metabolism, which is a terrible, you don't want that at the end, right? You don't want to be in a situation where
Starting point is 00:35:44 in order to maintain your weight, you can only, you know, a is a terrible, you don't want that at the end, right? You don't want to be in a situation where in order to maintain your weight, you can only, you know, a super low amount, especially if you're older. So here's what the study found. They found that cardio workouts caused older adults with obesity to lose more lean muscle mass than dieting alone. Wow.
Starting point is 00:35:59 So not only did they lose muscle mass when they, when they dieted and did cardio, but the cardio made them lose more muscle than if they just dieted and did cardio, but the cardio made them lose more muscle than if they just dieted. Wow. Because of the adaptation of course. Because the body is trying to become more efficient. Which is something we've been telling for a long time. We've been getting a lot of heat for that in fact. Well, with this may start doing, now, this is what tripping me out now. Because let's say the comment, let's say that, let's say that diet versus diet plus cardio produce the same weight loss effect and the same muscle loss.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Like let's say what they were even on most metrics, doctors would still recommend doing cardio with diet because they'd say, well, it's good for your heart and it's good for your health. But now that the studies are showing that diet makes you lose weight, but cardio and diet makes you lose weight and a cardio in diet makes you lose weight and a lot of muscle, doctors may start to tell people don't do the cardio with the diet because you're
Starting point is 00:36:50 just going to lose muscle mass and when you're older one of the worst things you can do is lose strength because as you start to lose mobility and function that's when all shit starts to happen. So I think what we're going to start to see is doctors really start to make a push for weight training. Diet and weight training. Diet and weight training. They're a lean muscle mass. Yeah, they're going to say, you know, here's your, we want you to cut your calories and lose weight, but I need you to lift muscle, excuse me, lift weights so you don't lose any muscle. Right. And slowly your metabolism down. And or lose function. How crazy is that shit? That is crazy. It's all starting to come out. And I think the time,
Starting point is 00:37:24 like again, I've said this before, I think the time is right now for weight training to hit the mainstream, like it's never been hit before. I told you, did you guys read, I don't know if you read the article that I sent over to you about LeBron James, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Lindsey Vaughan. Yeah, what's the deal with that?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Haunt launching a health and wellness company. Sounds very similar to some of the things that we're doing. So what are they doing? Media or something? Yeah, it's a media company. And of course, of course, they've attached it to a supplement company. Sounds very similar to some of the things that we're doing. So what are they doing? Media or something? Yeah, it's a media company. And of course, of course, they've attached it to a supplement company. So that's where they lose in my opinion. Right. I think they're on to the right track. It's basically just a resource, you know, a media resource like we are for, really, for health and wellness. And yes, we're probably going to get, you know, passed up by them. The knock that I have is that it, of course, they've
Starting point is 00:38:05 attached it to a supplement line to you that they're also releasing in conjunction. I wonder, have you had, do they have any content yet? No, there's, it's, it's not officially live. I wonder just the announcement that they'll be doing it. I'll be very honest. If I, if I see their content and I like it, I'll definitely say good things about them. Well, I don't have I don't need to be more of it out there I mean in my opinion. Yeah, I don't have high hopes though. I haven't seen too many people promote really good content Yeah, you know, yeah, I mean from the I read it and it sounds the idea of what they're doing It sounds cool now. They also it's got you know protein powders and green powder and energy powder and it's you know They're pairing they're pairing that with that Which doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad thing. I just, I would just question the motives.
Starting point is 00:38:49 It just smells like the other stuff. Yeah, I would question the motives. The motives to turn this into a, I mean, imagine if that was our motives while doing this and we had attached all the information and science and stuff that we provide to all these supplements and we're trying to monetize that way, you know, we'd be making a lot of money.
Starting point is 00:39:06 See, here's the thing, you have LeBron James, Lindsey Vaughn, Cindy Crawford, and Arnold Schwarzenegger, of all of those people, the only one that I think would have like knowledge to, it depends who put this together for them, because, well, you know, none of them did. What, what, well, that's what I'm saying. If they just get a bunch of,
Starting point is 00:39:23 well, no, they have marketers, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Listen, here, let me read it to you so you know who's involved in this. They, with this launch slider, will offer four products with two protein powders, energy powder and green powder, but they've also committed to updating their website and articles and other content about healthy living.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Eventually, they helped to help expand its series of products with snack foods and potential avenue of interest for them at the current time. You know, here, then it goes on Arnold talks a little bit. Among these included as an advisors to the company, our LeBron James trainer, Mike Mencius and director of Applied Physiology and Human Performance at the University of North Carolina, Dr. Abby Smith Ryan. So they've got professionals and doctors on staff that are advising them on what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:40:09 But again, that could be nothing too. Sure. You know what I'm saying? That could just mean that we're attaching ourselves to be like old information. You know, or it's just information that is got a desired outcome already, which is a cell product. So we have a doctor come on and then promote that.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I mean, we could use our resources, we talked about Ruseo earlier. It's been done to death. Right, we could, we could pair with something, supplement that has to do with gut health, then we could, you know, do a whole fear mongling thing by having, you know, Ruseo come on and scare people into thinking that, oh, everyone's guts are probably fucked up
Starting point is 00:40:44 and everybody probably should be taking this and then sell it and market it. So that just makes me wonder if that's it. Now, I mean, just interesting to watch. It'll all sort of unfold and see where they go with it. For sure. I'm excited to see what their content is because if their content is good, if it's good,
Starting point is 00:41:02 I will be very excited because it'll signify to me when you have this, when you have powerhouse names like these. If powerhouses like this are going to put forward a company that's going to promote like good quality information, that will signify to me that the industry is moving in the market. Starting to move. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I highly doubt it. I think that, I think they recognize that there's health and wellness. This exploding. Is exploding. And I think a lot of smart businessmen and women see the opportunity than our attachment themselves.
Starting point is 00:41:33 And I think it'll be entertaining. I bet the content's gonna be cool on that side of it. I mean, where we lack an entertainment, I think we will get surpassed by something like this. Production and all that. Yeah, the production of it, the wild factor, the celebrity status, the cool videos, the cool, everything will be more entertainment
Starting point is 00:41:52 with a little bit of problems. Well, wellness now has become such a retail marketing. Being healthy is actually become cool. But it's not just healthy, the term wellness now, they're slapping that on everything. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, no, I'm sure. And it's the new, it's like all natural used to be.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Remember all natural, oh, all natural. So then every marketing company and serial company figured out ways to put all natural on their box, even that was shit. Yeah. And you'd be like, oh, I got this because it's all natural. Wellness is becoming that term, you know, where they're gonna start. My favorite was ancient greens.
Starting point is 00:42:29 What? What? I thought it was like ancient greens? Wow, that makes it better. Yeah. I'm sold. Actually, ancient greens are, what is that? Like buckwheat, quinoa.
Starting point is 00:42:40 I don't even know any of these ones. I don't even know what you see. I've never seen that. I've seen it a bunch, man. Oh, really? Yeah. They've like marketed as I don't even know anything. I don't even know what you're saying. I've never seen it. I've seen it a bunch, man. Oh, really? Yeah. They've like marketed as cereals and like crackers. I love it because something will come out
Starting point is 00:42:51 that's kind of good. And then the next thing you know, like I got tagged the other day, somebody was at the grocery store and took a picture of cereal with probiotics in it. It was like fucking special care or something like that. Did we call that out? We did.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I knew that. And they're like, oh, check this out. I mean, like, bone broth, like, okay, pretty sure that's gonna do a more pro addict on it. Yeah, yeah. College and protein, that's gonna be. Protein dust, everything. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:14 It's just what we end up doing. And wellness is now becoming that like, no, we're not in the fitness, we're in the wellness. You know, it's like, all right, come on now. We're in the business. So I'll keep an eye on it. I'll watch it, see what's going on. You know who, well, not the same thing as this,
Starting point is 00:43:28 but the rock, remember the rock, when we first started this, he had seven productions, seven buck productions. Yeah, remember he tried to dabble in the fitness space. What happened, he stopped? Yeah, nothing really happened. I don't know, Doug, make it look up seven buck productions. I thought he was doing something in the bodybuilding space.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Yeah, I thought he, I was like, oh shit, look out, the rock's involved now, and I thought it was gonna be awesome, butbuilding space. Yeah, I thought he, I was like, oh shit, look out, the rocks involved now, and I thought it was going to be awesome, but this was like two, three years ago, when we first started the podcast, he was already starting this. I remember that. And I had never heard anything else about it again, so I don't know if it completely died or it's just not a priority to him or what, but that was interesting. You know, something else that was interesting along the lines of sports is just this legalization of betting and gambling now. So what's going down? So now, I gotta be excited for online or I am excited. Well, all the heart, all the fundamentalists like Christians are probably freaking out. We got weed legalization. I know.
Starting point is 00:44:17 Gambling. Next prostitution. prostitution. Here we go. Mark my words. Yeah. prostitutes would be a wave of legalization among prostitutes. I believe that.% well, I think that the first wave of that will be this the robots again this I definitely solidifies my theory that that Trump is What's his name Biff from back? Yeah, exactly the world we're living it. Yeah, so the the NBA literally just signed their first data partnership with in-game gambling Company called I think genius and something else. I can't remember what the other one was But now you'll be able to I guess they've done all these stats on people that gamble and like 40% of gamblers are actually gambling while the game is happening So betting like oh who's gonna dunk the ball next or who's gonna make the next three-point or?
Starting point is 00:45:02 Impulsive like yeah, so I have, I have the ability on my website to do what's called live betting like that also, where I can be as the games go on and as the, yeah, I know. It's, I have my own set of rules and the way I play and the way I do things. And I, it's just like when I play Crap's, if I stick to my rules, I'm a pretty good gambler. It, when I let my impulses, and emotions get involved, I tend to my rules, I'm a pretty good gambler. When I let my impulses and emotions get involved,
Starting point is 00:45:28 I tend to lose money. It's just how fun though. I remember betting on a bunch of random ass things for the Super Bowl, like the coin toss and like who was gonna be in control of the ball going into half, like all these types of things. And like, I remember winning on all of those and losing on all the regular ones.
Starting point is 00:45:44 The prop bets. Yeah. You guys have friends that are into DFS leagues and Fandall and things like that. No, no, no. Yeah, I have a bunch of them. Oh, that's huge. Like friends are good. All we were into fantasy football forever.
Starting point is 00:45:55 And I don't know, it was like shit. I think our eighth season, when we kind of just, everyone got busy and just we weren't falling along so much. And then the introduction of Fandall and the other one kings, I forget the other name, Kathy right now, but draft Kings draft Kings Fandall when those started coming on the scene, that was because that became way more popular because now you were drafting a team every week. And my buddies are crazy dude. All week long we week long we're gonna make real money on those. Oh no I'm one of my boys just made $50,000. Damn. He what? He hit it for $50,000. We're playing fantasy football. Yes. And one week. And the way it works so you have all these options. So I can go
Starting point is 00:46:37 heads up with someone. So you and I can bet a game that we're betting a $500 game, $100 game. Any range we want and it's you and I heads up, my team wins, I win that money, or I can enter into pools, and the bigger the pool, the bigger the pot, and you buy in, right? So it's $10 to enter my team into this pool. And if there's tens of thousands of people, and it's scale, like I think the first three people, or maybe the top five people are payouts,
Starting point is 00:47:01 and the first place is a large payout. But there's tons of all these different groups that you can go into. So what's up with the legalization stuff? Well, it's gone legal, dude. It's going completely legal. Sports betting is gonna be... Probably because they couldn't control it anyway.
Starting point is 00:47:16 Yeah, exactly. But I can realize we'll collect some tax. And I really think that like, Fandall and draft kings were a part of this transition because it was like, fuck, there's so many loop holes in the law for people to do this digitally now, right? Because maybe in California, it's quote unquote illegal, but if you're if you have a digital web if you have a website or you have something that's based that is Trace it back to like Nevada right. Right. Technology at some point is gonna make so many laws totally obsolete. You know what I mean like that's an example
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like how yeah, how obsolete is it you can't gamble law when you can't stop me I can go online and find all these sites and gamble Oh, and now and we can trans Venmo allows us to transfer money back and forth and now you should Bitcoin all that That's why that's why I bet on Bitcoin regardless of of it, you know, taking a shit lately, is that long term, I believe that ultimately, that's the only way that they could regulate is by regulating through the monies. And if there is actually something,
Starting point is 00:48:15 a digital product that does not allow, and it's not traceable, like Bitcoin, that there will be a market for it, even if it's a black market. So I've always seen this. As long as you think there's gonna be a black market, there'll be a market. That's how I looked at it.
Starting point is 00:48:26 I was like, when every people were debating me on Bitcoin being smarter, nah, I said, listen, it's inevitable. It's being somebody who has been on the other side of the fence with, you know, being in a gray type of market with the cannabis space and seeing all the transactions and shit going down. Man, no doubt if we had a system like Bitcoin in place
Starting point is 00:48:46 when I was involved in that, 100% would be using that. I wouldn't be traveling around with $50,000 in my pocket and potentially getting robbed or jacked. I would be transferring that over. And if it wasn't traceable by anybody, 100%, so the black market will demand it, 100%, black market will demand it.
Starting point is 00:49:02 And now whether that makes it into mainstream and it becomes... I think that you're gonna start to see a new wave of drug liberalization with the laws, because we already have it with cannabis. That's done, there's no arguing now. It's gonna be, it'll be nationally decriminalized at the very least, but probably legalized.
Starting point is 00:49:22 The next one now, Silas-Syban, and MDMA, both of which, for their therapeutic, both of which have been studied, and Silasibin actually got FDA fast-tracked for some studies. Those two things will get decriminalized, I guarantee it because of the studies. And then I think what's gonna happen with all that is you're gonna start to see them,
Starting point is 00:49:44 you're gonna start to see that people are realizing the war on drugs was a total, just a waste of money and create a lot more problems than anything. And then I think all kinds of other things are start to get legalized. Anything where people voluntarily are doing it with, you know, then I think that those things will be legalized, like prostitution. I think prostitution, I don't support it, it's not my thing, but if somebody agrees to have sex with someone for money and the other person agrees to pay them,
Starting point is 00:50:12 and it's all voluntary, I don't understand. Well, look how easy the trend, I mean, it's happening already probably. And we talked to, I think, a lot of it. That's tech is making it real easy. We talked on a podcast recently about this new wave of, and it's not prostitution, because maybe you're technically not sleeping with somebody,
Starting point is 00:50:29 but you have these. You like Snapchat, you show girls. Yeah, exactly. The Snapchat, there you go. Snapchat peep shows for X amount of dollars per month. How easy is it for that guy or girl whoever's doing that to meet up and then make a financial transaction and to do that? I mean, and to try and track all of it that's happening.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It's just like, good luck. Yeah, I think you're best bet natural upsell. Yeah, I think you're best natural upsell. I see you're one of my goal customers. Yeah, and you're already paying $79.99 a month. Yeah, it's almost just closest deal. Yeah, I think the smart thing to do if you're a legislator and you're trying to legislate morality is realize that if there's laws that you can't enforce that just doesn't work
Starting point is 00:51:11 because people are going to do it anyway, then legalize it and regulate it to the point where you can get away with it. For example, with prostitution, you know, full-on open legalization might be undesirable because you don't want these things popping up all over the place. So maybe legalize it, but zone them. Okay, well, they have to be in these areas or it has to be done in your home, they have to come to your house
Starting point is 00:51:33 or something like that. They're gonna be so naged, all that kind of stuff. Yeah, because then, because there's a little, there's a limit, right? Like, there's a limit to where regulation creates strong black markets. And what we've done is we've regulated things so hard that we've just made these super strong black markets. And what we've done is we've regulated things so hard that we've just made these super strong black markets.
Starting point is 00:51:48 But I think if you look, here's a great example, what they did with music. Music is a fantastic example. Everybody was stealing music for free online. And so they had to fucking figure out a way to give you a good product and charge you a little bit so they could outcompete that when that's kind of what they did with iTunes, right?
Starting point is 00:52:05 That's kind of what they did. That's what's going to happen with some of the stuff. For example, if you're the average person in California, do you want to buy marijuana on the black market, even though it might be cheaper? Probably not, because you'd rather go to the dispensary where it's clean and legal and they've tested it for shit and you're not buying it off a dealer. That's an example of how the market will start to out compete the black market.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Same thing with prostitution, that's gonna happen with prostitution, I think it's gonna happen with all of the drugs. You're gonna, because technology's making it, good luck trying to enforce some of these laws, you know what I mean? And then wait till 3D printing comes out, good luck with fucking controlling anything with that. How's that gonna work with like supplements and stuff?
Starting point is 00:52:42 Like are you gonna be able to just like print like supplements you think? At some point, like someone buys like organic fight and then one time and then they go and they fucking formulate like a, Well, at some point, at some point, if you go down, you break everything down, it's just a series of molecules.
Starting point is 00:52:58 At some point, and we're nowhere near this, but if we have a 3D printer that can print with molecules and start to create compounds, why not? Why wouldn't you build it? Well, when you saw in that document, they showed all the organs already printing with the biomatter. It was like mind blowing. Yeah, I mean, who knows? You could go in there and be like, here print me some, you know, bike it in and it'll, you know, and then here's your bike it in or whatever.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You know, but that's what I want to know. And you know, That's what I think it was going to have, but I think what I want to know. I want to know. You know. That's what I think was gonna happen. I think we're gonna see more and more people altering their bodies like that. You think so? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:31 It's gonna be the new tattoo, right? What do you think were the first things people will print for themselves? A new face. A dog. A whole face? A face. What'd you say, Jeff?
Starting point is 00:53:40 A dog. A dog. Come on. You listen, like just, you know, like, guess if you grew up in your life not like Yeah! I like my dog sleep. I'm cool, I like my dog sleep.
Starting point is 00:53:48 I'm cool in my life. I don't know if I used to like shit just to, it's so huge. Whatever I am huge. No one said that, geez bro. I'm so happy with that hugeness. It's crazy. Anyway, I just don't talk about it. Well, the technology comes out just
Starting point is 00:54:07 that you can put yourself up. I'm just saying, like a nice little, you know, hat for or something. I don't know. What? You're not gonna get me if you do that. Hey babe, I got this hat from a- Look at it, it's like a new-
Starting point is 00:54:18 Newer, shinier. It's a, whatever, you can refresh it. You know what I'm saying? It's out of the bag bro, you already said it. It's just, it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,'s all I'm saying. It's out of the bag bro, you already said it. No, for reals, what do you think of the first things people were praying? You think a whole face? Yes! Why would you print a whole, you mean a younger version of your face?
Starting point is 00:54:32 Is that what you're saying? Not only that, absolutely. Think about that. Think of it, even to someone who is, oh weird, if you just look like someone else. Well, you would do it, you would do it, well yeah, some people will do that that are completely unhappy with themselves. But hey, I went mine having a pretty- Go rob a bank.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I was able to hand some fuck at 25, man. 25 full head of air, good looking face, past all the pimples, good skin. I mean, if I could just slap on the 25 year old version of me and then it would mesh with the rest of me. So it wouldn't be like, why not just putting someone else's face? Face print your old, just take your stem cells,
Starting point is 00:55:03 grow a young version of yourself without a brain, and then just take your brain and plug it in. Move it in and out of hand. That's it. Or, here's the weird part, ready for this. I'm gonna do a little mind fuck with you guys. What if you could figure out how to literally copy your brain with its memories and knowledge and everything?
Starting point is 00:55:21 Here's the thing. That was black mirror, remember we talked about. Well, here's the thing. Is that really you or is it just a copy of you? In other words, if you killed you and you have this new copy of you and it's this younger version, we're not gonna transfer consciousness.
Starting point is 00:55:33 Well, I mean, that's the argument. That's the argument. That's the argument, you know what I mean? Well, it doesn't make any sense. Just blew your mind. Yeah, I don't wanna compete with the other version. Yeah, and I'll kill him. You'll lose.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Yeah, I think your wiser. I walk home, I observe my wife. It's sacked it, I don't kill him. I don't plug his ass. You'll lose. Yeah, I walk home. I'll set it. I kill him. I don't plug that. You say that's how wise I am. You know how easily you'd be able to like fuck with your younger version of yourself just because you know how your own weaknesses when you're at that age. Yeah, all the insigiri. Everything. You know, poking out of all the time. Make yourself cry. Yeah, you look pretty good. Your chest is kind of small. I can see the little bone. It's kind of bony right here.
Starting point is 00:56:06 What are you doing? What are you doing about this? They're crying. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, so another thing I've been seeing in the news, one of our sponsors is making the rounds on the mainstream media right now. Who?
Starting point is 00:56:18 Health IQ. They're making big news with their whole diabetes thing. Remember I told you last time we talked about Health IQ, they were, I saw them on Bloomberg. What did you see them on? You see more of something else? I think it might have been Bloomberg or that. I remember, I think it was an investment page to be honest with you.
Starting point is 00:56:32 But, you know, health IQ provides life insurance for fit and healthy people and they're moving into the space of providing life insurance for fit and healthy people with diabetes. Because that's always been expensive, right? Once somebody has a pre-existing condition like that to get insurance is like really like pricey. Well, it's brilliant because,
Starting point is 00:56:52 and they've raised a lot of money, look at that, how much money they get for when they're getting for investments, that was last year alone. I mean, the company is just, it's very, very smart because if you're a fit and healthy person, you should be able to pay less, your odds of dying are much lower. And if you have diabetes, what happens with life insurance is they automatically kill you with the rates.
Starting point is 00:57:12 But if you're fit and healthy with diabetes, you know, you're doing pretty damn good. You're not doing bad if you take care of yourself. And so they've come out with their own product. And so it's making the rounds right now. What's great to see? Yeah, it's great to see that they're own product. Yeah. And so it's making the rounds right now. That's great to see. Yeah, it's great to see that they're doing that. Yeah, because I think a lot of people don't realize you can be fit and healthy and have tied to tsunami.
Starting point is 00:57:30 No, no, they're doing big things. I mean, all the people that I feel like we've partnered up with are fucking solid companies, dude. You know, well, I see our organized stuff everywhere, but I can't figure that out if that's because I bought shit from them and they're just the best company. They're following you. They may be the best retargeting company we've ever done.
Starting point is 00:57:47 Oh, I can't get away from it. What do they call those cookies? Yeah, they're the cookies just following you. Oh, I have to concede by the way, Adam. I love cookies. I think you are the one that came up with the Christmas plan. Oh, thank you. It's not often you admit what you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:57:59 I think so. So can you do like a replay replay on that? I think so. I think it's a... You're Adam, you're right. Adam, you're right. Adam, on that? It is. It's confirmed. You're Adam, you're right. Adam, you're right. Adam, you're right.
Starting point is 00:58:08 Doug and Barried. Yeah, I think it is. But you know what it was is I told you about it before we end up for something. Yeah, just like, what was it? Oh, so you did, I saw you do the questions on your IG the other day. Yeah. And one of the questions you got is why are you copying Adam?
Starting point is 00:58:21 And it's like, no, I told him about it a few years ago. Yeah. Before they even invented it. Yeah. Yeah. Hellarious. Oh, I love it. Anyway, one more cool piece of science.
Starting point is 00:58:31 So I read an article, so I have family members who have really bad food allergies. And this is becoming more and more of a problem. I'm sure you've seen this Justin with your kids in school where they have entire classrooms that are peanut-free or egg-free, it's really becoming a thing. Autoimmune issues in general have exploded. Oh, it's a pain in the ass to bring snacks. Yeah, let me tell you. Yeah, but there may be some good news.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Really? Yes, studies are showing that people with allergies have lower risks for developing certain types of cancers. So there are immune systems, people with allergies, the immune system is just overactive. And it's the overactiveness, this vigilance of their immune system comes in handy when killing, you know, finding the... It's hyper-responsive, so it is sort of actively just going after these problems.
Starting point is 00:59:29 Like it's killing all these pre-cancer cells and stuff much sooner, but in the presence of modern life, the context of modern life where everything's hyper-clean, we don't need the super-vigilant immune system, it may, you know, go haywire and then start to attack itself, which is why you develop these food allergies and shit. Interesting. So, it's not like ideal to completely eliminate, well, like, let's say, like, so we're trying
Starting point is 00:59:58 to get rid of all, like genetically, let's say, if we're doing this whole crisper thing and we're trying to eliminate the gene for allergies, right? For instance, and then once we do that, you may be a bit more susceptible to cancer. No, I mean, look at this. People who have asthma and hay fever have a 17% lower chance of dying from colon cancer.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So there's an interesting one. Men and women whose blood tests showed them to have an allergy also had a 50% lower risk for developing certain types of brain tumors. And then in mice, they found that certain types of allergies dramatically reduces their risk of skin cancer. So there's almost that trade-off. And it's like, you know, what the thing is, a lot of our modern health problems are the result of an ancient body living in a modern world. You know what I mean? If you have this kind of an immune system, it's probably awesome when you're constantly exposed to pathogens all the time and now you're in this hyper clean
Starting point is 01:00:58 environment, you got some... Well, didn't we see that? I don't know if this is an example of being like sickle cell and then also like malaria, isn't there see that? I don't know if this is a This is an example like it being like sickle cell and then also like malaria Yeah, isn't there that parallel? Yep. Yep. Yeah people with sickle cell have a natural kind of immunity or or Abel to fight malaria much like not as advantageous in this environment Well, I always wonder if it's something like that or that because they have something and there's something else They do in their life that that could be contributing to that You know, you said like allergies and I think of well, what are the things that I do differently because I have allergies?
Starting point is 01:01:29 Maybe they find that like Benadryl's antichancer? Right, something like that. Even though I wouldn't use that as an example, but because of that, maybe. I mean, that's a very, very good question. Because they've done a few studies on this, they're thinking it's the other way, but that's a very good question. Because they've done a few studies on this, they're thinking it's the other way, but that's a very good question. The way to deduce that, I guess, would be to look up studies on things that people do, people who have allergies, the things that they do, and what those associations are with cancer, to see if you can tease that out. That's very interesting.
Starting point is 01:02:00 But yeah, because you've told me before, I mean, we've talked about how, you know, allergies are, it's an inflammatory response, right? So eating high inflammatory foods is going to naturally kick up my allergies when I'm already having it's during allergy season. So I'm aware of this and I try to, you know, make conscious decisions because of that. Now, are those conscious decisions also helping me avoid cancer? Because I'm not eating these high inflammatory foods or things like, you know what I mean? They're like an example like that.
Starting point is 01:02:31 It's tough because the immune system's so complex. It's such a complex system that it's difficult to isolate these types of things. But they are finding across the board that people and animals with allergies, even animals, seem to have better survival rates from cancers and lower rates of cancers. And the cancer, look, at any given moment, you probably have cancer cells in your body, but your immune system is constantly killing them and getting rid of them or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And it's when your immune system fails at doing that, that cancer becomes an issue. So interesting. This quad brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-added edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organifi.com That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Stop watching so much porn. You know what? A young man should have, yeah, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Bet you money as things going. Dude, you hit the nail on the head Adam. This is, this was a, when you look at, sorry, who is it? I had the opposite problem as a young boy. Yeah. I was trying to calm it down. You know, so who is a Rob Wolff was the one that kind of educated us on this a little bit.
Starting point is 01:04:01 And he talked about how this exposure to this, so much novel stimulus through porn is caused this adaptation where young men now are getting less and less stimulated by the real thing. And after he talked to us about that, that was fascinating. I looked it up and erect how this function in the young man, young man age group, and I can't remember,
Starting point is 01:04:25 it was like 18 to 25 or whatever, which was non-existent, like erectile dysfunction in that age group was almost non-existent for a long, long time, like that doctors didn't see people in that age group come to them and complain about that. But since porn has become such easy access to it, that the erectile dysfunction complaints and diagnosis has exploded in that age group.
Starting point is 01:04:50 And you're starting to see now online, groups of men who are actually joining groups and forums where they're pledging to not watch porn anymore. Isn't that the no-fap movement or whatever it's called? Yes, is that what it is? That's it. The no-fap movement or no-fap. Yes. Was that what it is? That's it. The no-fap movement. Is that an acronym for this?
Starting point is 01:05:07 No, this is for the sound that it makes. Fwap, fwap, fwap. Oh, when you slap your dig against your belly. Well, no, no. It's not. How do you jack up, bro? You're doing it wrong. Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:05:20 I'm thinking about the sound. That's the sound that it was made. No, it's just the sound of, I'm doing your thing. Interesting. But dude, you hit the nail on the head, bro. That's probably the best possible thing a young man can do is shut off all pornography and not watch it. The reason why I say that is because, you know, fuck, I'm on 16 or 17 years in the, you
Starting point is 01:05:43 know, fitness professional world, right? And I never have ever had these questions until now, until the last like five years or so, this is becoming more common. I mean, I have at least one or two DMs related to this question in my deep. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I get this all the time,
Starting point is 01:06:01 especially because I openly talk about my testosterone use. I'm going to ask you about that. I mean, are these people that are taking exogenous testosterone as well as this like, I think that's common lear. So I think it's a combination of all these things, right? I think that they can be desynthetized to it from looking at porno all the time. I think that they're also probably taking pro hormones and supplements that are supposed to help build the muscle. So I think a combination of all that is creating this perfect storm for these young teenage boys to have problem with their libido.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Well, you can have low libido because you're unhealthy, your testosterone's low, lack of sleep, high stress, like all those things affect your libido, but when it comes to young men, if you're otherwise healthy, it probably is because you're looking at too much pornography, because if you're healthy and you're active and you don't eat super terrible, especially if you work out in the lift weights, your testosterone level should be pretty good, or at least they're probably gonna be at the highest rate that they're ever gonna be in your entire life. So it's really this, because so many things affect your libido. I mean, and one of the things that affect your libido is that novel stimulus. And when you look at something, when you constantly looking at naked women,
Starting point is 01:07:19 and it's just variety and variety, and what you'll find too, is that the same stimulus will no longer give you the same effect. You have to go with more nudity and then more depravity and then darker. Exactly. To get the same kind of... Tell your pushing girls down in the bathroom. Was that what did you call that just?
Starting point is 01:07:39 Donkey show. Oh, I got a topple porn. Topple porn. Adam's the new category. I don't know why that food I don't know. That's the, I did. This is, bro. It's so random.
Starting point is 01:07:49 We know what you guys do. Yeah, yeah, we're in on the street. Where are the knee pads in the bathroom? How come your bathroom floor is made out of wrestling mats? We're always retiling. But you bubble tape. You have the toilet. Keep that grout.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Keep that grout real clean. Oh, keep the grout clean. Hey, babe. That destroyed me. There reminds me of that game where you used to like somebody would like get on their fours behind somebody else and you'd see them and they'd be like, go on and then you'd go push them over. That's the other kind of top report. Yeah, but that would be my guess. My guess would be if you're a young man, I would be how much of my staring at my computer screen and majority of the time, how much of that am I watching? And I don't, you know, is Ken Instagram be affecting me? Of course, anything, any kind of visual stimulation.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I mean, because it's so, it's easy. Yeah. Look, let me, let me, and the more you like it, the more it gets fed to you. It's a great way. Let me paint the picture. Okay the more gets fed to you Wait, let me paint the picture. Okay for for for younger people listening right now Let me paint the picture if I wanted access as a as a 19 year old Man young man. Yeah, if I wanted access to women to pictures of women wearing bikinis not I'm not talking about porn bikinis or thongs bending over in front of pictures,
Starting point is 01:09:06 whatever, I had to go and be brave enough to go buy a specific type of magazine. And when I did buy the magazine, I had 50 pages in there and then that was it. It was like from Brazil, somewhere exotic. And that's it. Now you don't even have to go on porn. All your social media, Instagram.
Starting point is 01:09:22 You can go up and down left right and have access to all kinds of pictures that before I used to have to go buy like special editions of swimsuit editions from sports illustrator or whatever. Or Victoria's Secret catalogs. It's not like that anymore, so think about it this way. Let me ask you guys a question. Have you guys ever been to, you guys ever been to
Starting point is 01:09:41 a like a topless beach or to like a pool or a beach area where there's lots of attractive. Yeah. How quickly does the shock and amazement of it wear off? Yeah. It's crazy, right? Yeah. I remember I went to a topless beach in Italy.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Like, ew, they yawned. Yeah, it's like, ew. No, I went to a, I went to a topless beach in Italy. I want you to see it, it's no ideal. Yeah. After I was there, it took me about 20 or 30 minutes of seeing, you know, my God, and then you just kind of got used to it
Starting point is 01:10:08 and it's not that big of a deal. And that's what happened. And if you're a young teenage boy, Instagram isn't a big deal to you. I still am like, oh my God, this is crazy. Girls can post all this stuff on here. But if you're a young boy that has grown up in the Instagram world and you know nothing different,
Starting point is 01:10:24 then it's normal. It's the norm to you. So probably to get excited or aroused takes the next level of stuff. And if they're already putting borderline x-rated stuff on social media platforms, you know, porn hub is the next thing. And then like you said, that only gets more graphic and crazy. It's interesting for me to see because I don't know if it's just like me being an older, you know, man now to where it's like you get like shocked by like what some young girls
Starting point is 01:10:53 wear and like I've seen like so many more cutoff shorts where it's like like butt cheeks are hanging out. And like I remember a classic like a teenage boy like my head would have exploded, you know, with just like what was just people were wearing to school. I just don't see... But that's kind of like... But that's not as bad. And yeah, I agree with you, but that's not as bad as having access to an infinite number
Starting point is 01:11:20 of photographs and videos at my fingertips whenever I want. Yeah, because what it is, it's a perfect storm, because here's what it is. It's not one girl you see wearing short shorts and you're like, oh my god, she's hot. It's literally flip, flip, flip, next, next, next, and then it's a perfect storm of desensitizing, because it's so fast and it's so novel and it's so easy that you're literally, it's like cigarettes. It's like something that's so easy that you're literally, it's like cigarettes. It's like something that's so fast
Starting point is 01:11:46 that you're playing this down regulating game of your brain sensitivity to visual stimulus. It's a perfect storm. And more than ever, we live in a time now where one of the strongest virtues that you're gonna have to survive the context of modern life is, can I abstain from certain things to keep myself healthy?
Starting point is 01:12:08 Can I abstain from all these different foods that I have access to that are cheap? Can I abstain from just staying on electronics and not being active? Can I abstain from looking at pornography all the time? At some point, pretty soon, at the beginning of the episode, we talked about how I think drugs will be legalized, People are gonna have to learn, can't have staying from just using drugs all the time. It's gonna become a virtue where you're gonna see more, and it's already happening naturally.
Starting point is 01:12:32 Like I said, this website called NoFap. It's actually a website, it's a group. It's actually a group of men and people that go on there that are like, okay, I'm not gonna masturbate, I'm not gonna look at porn anymore. I'm just gonna put your guys like sweating. Because they're learning. Signed felt called not gonna masturbate, I'm not gonna look at porn anymore. Just because you guys are sweating. Because they're learning. Signed felt called that master of domain, your domain.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Is there a really, you remember that episode? Oh, is that really head up bad? Oh, yeah, that was one of the best episodes ever. The master of your domain. So that's one of them. The other thing is the traditional things that I always tell men and women, if they want to improve their libido,
Starting point is 01:13:03 lift weights properly, lifting weights really promotes this anabolic environment, which can... Especially strength training. Yes. Which increases the anabolic feel good hormones. Be healthy with your diet, because if you're not healthy, your body is going to say, hey, we shouldn't be procreating. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Good sleep. Get good sleep. Manage your stress very well. Have good communication with your partner. Sometimes what men think is a low libido is more, is not low libido, it's actually anxiety. So like, I know guys who will break up with a girl and then they'll find that they have issues
Starting point is 01:13:41 with other girls only because they were with some girl for so long that now they're anxious to be with this other you know woman or whatever. So these types of things also sometimes anxiety people guys are like, oh, you know, why can't I get it up? And it's like well, it's not your libido. It's low. You're just really fucking stressed out anxious and you get you know handled that a little bit. And so things like meditation and hiking and being in touch with nature and that kind of stuff can help with that. But I think we hit it on the head, man. I think it's the abuse of pornography that's causing this problem for a lot of young men. Next question is from Roth Rodriguez. Are there any benefits to using the Smith machine?
Starting point is 01:14:15 Oh, I just had this on my Insta story. I answered this question. So I picked it. Yeah, I know. There's there's some benefit. We ragged hard. We ragged hard, especially Justin. I know Justin hates it. I just can't stand it. I used it quite a bit, especially, not, I shouldn't say quite a bit. I used it intermittently in my training regimen when I was competing. Men's bikini?
Starting point is 01:14:35 Yeah, men's bikini. Most popular way that I would use it is for upper body exercises that I either one was pushing a max set without any spotters or two when I was drop setting an exercise. So shoulder pressing or chest pressing, climb press on there and I'm starting off with X amount of pounds and I'm stripping down each step.
Starting point is 01:15:01 So you know, strips that's a good one. Yeah, when you're by yourself, it's like, and again, if I was, you know, I really wanted to push the weight and I didn't have a spotter, you know, this would be a great place for me to use that because I know I could just roll my wrist and lock it. I use it for a donkey kickbacks. Yeah, just my favorite. I think the reason why we've ragged on the Smith machine in the past is because the Smith machine
Starting point is 01:15:25 pretends to be a barbell. That's all. Because the reality is the Smith machine is just a machine. And I think some people view it and think to themselves, oh look I can use a barbell. It equates to barbell. Yeah, I'm gonna do barbell movements, but I mean to Smith machine because it's safer. No, no, no, it's just a machine. It's like any other machine, like a hammer-strength machine, or any other plate loader machine, some machines are better than others. A Smith machine is just a machine. So if you want to do like a machine chest press, Smith machine is one of your options. If you want to do a machine row, Smith machine is one of your options. You want to do a machine overhead press, it's an option. It's all it is, basically. Yeah, the risk level goes down substantially,
Starting point is 01:16:05 in terms of what, I mean, the thing that irritates me about it is it's just in a fixed bar path. So, for me, it doesn't emulate a squat very well, if I know. It's more of a hex squat. Yeah, it's not the same thing. And I think a lot of people just, again, that's the part that irritates me is it's just's people have this idea that it definitely is a good like alternative to that.
Starting point is 01:16:29 It's a totally different thing. I don't do any lower body movements on it. And I urge people never to do any lower body movements. I can't think of one that would be. Yeah, I don't that it doesn't. And Cassie actually just reached out to me because she answers a lot of these questions where somebody says, you know, hey, I says, hey, can I just do the Smith machine for the squats?
Starting point is 01:16:48 In fact, we do our discussing this this morning. And she goes, I just want to make sure that I'm giving them the right answer. And the answer she gives is the right answer, which is you should do a lighter weight, just with the barbell, or if that's all you can handle, or your body weight squatting over using the Smith machine and loading. And that's just because the benefits that you get with the
Starting point is 01:17:11 barbell squat, part of the great benefits of that is the ability to have to stabilize that bar through the entire movement. You get incredible benefits to dropping down deep into a squat while you have a bar above you that you have to stabilize and isn't on a track. You eliminate that and you eliminate a lot of the benefits that you get from the squat. Otherwise, all you're doing is targeting a muscle, which you can do on machine. Not only that, but the bar path, when you squat, when you're squatting with a freeway, the bar path is not straight down.
Starting point is 01:17:41 When you squat on a Smith machine, what you end up having to do is moving your feet away from your body and then you emulate like a hack squat. Otherwise, you put your feet underneath you and you try squatting with a Smith machine, it turns into a weird, good morning type of a squat. It's not safe. It's not safe. Yes, it's totally funky.
Starting point is 01:17:58 It's not safe. Here's the thing with machines. A lot of people are like, oh, machines are safer. In some ways, they can be safer and some ways, they can be more dangerous in some ways, it can be more dangerous. Here's how they can be more dangerous. When you use a machine, the machine doesn't follow your body. Your body has to follow the machine.
Starting point is 01:18:13 So if I'm moving with a Smith machine in a way that doesn't feel natural as hurting me, well, guess what, that's my only option. There's no other way to move the bar because it's locked into position. With a free weight, I can adjust my positioning. I can train anybody with free weights. I don't care how tall you are, how short you are, how long your arms are, how long your legs are. I don't care what your biomechanics look like.
Starting point is 01:18:34 I can use free weights with pretty much anybody. Machines doesn't work with everybody. I have, there's genuinely, I have clients that genuinely could not use machines because their limbs were the wrong length. It just didn't work. Although I got to be honest, I have clients that genuinely could not use machines because their limbs were the wrong length. It just didn't work. Although I got to be honest, I have used it with clients to basically regress like a push up. Or, you know, do like, like a body weight row. And yeah, you just like, I use it for the bar so I can like adjust it. And so that's great for that.
Starting point is 01:19:03 Yeah. No, there's places for it. We've used it. I think the reason why we clowned on it for so long on this show is because a majority of the people don't use it like that. No. It's rare I walk by and I see an average gym goer using it as a regressed version of a push-up by moving the bar up
Starting point is 01:19:22 or doing a pull-up on it and adjusting it that way, or seeing somebody use it for a drop set for shoulder press or ink lifers, which are probably all and only the things that I could think of that I would even use a smith. Have you seen the Smith machine, and I don't even know if it's called a Smith machine, so traditional Smith machine, barbell on two tracks, it only goes straight up and straight down. Have you seen the Smith machine with a track also slide? Yeah, it's at the American barbell. Now, what is that called?
Starting point is 01:19:48 I don't know, but you know who actually was trying to like, sell me on the idea of that was, I think it was quarried because like, well, first of all, like in a very specialized like situation and environment where you're doing like half, like not even half quarter squats and you're trying to be super explosive and do it like in risk versus reward, you're doing like half, like not even half quarter squats and you're trying to be super explosive and do it like and risk versus reward, you're already trying to kind of minimize risk. So he was talking about using it for like, you know, doing a squatted jumps and like basically like quarter
Starting point is 01:20:18 squatted jumps and doing for power on that track that moves forward and back and I'm like, I've never used one. I've gotta sell him down that. I'm, yeah. What's it feel like'm like, I've never used one. I've got to sell them down there. What's it feel like? Yeah, I've used it for good mornings. Now, what does it feel like? Because it's on a track, but it's also free flowing
Starting point is 01:20:34 back to front top to bottom. So it's just stabilizing up and like the side to side. Yeah, they won't allow the bar to travel back and forth, right? So the bar stays very stable on your back. And I mean, I've used it for good mornings and to teach a good morning to somebody. Cause then I think,
Starting point is 01:20:49 cause that's one of the hardest things about a good morning is when people do a good morning at the bar, tends the role and stable as you on your back while you're trying to teach them to hinge in their hips. So that one tends to be, I've used it like that for a teaching tool to get them so we can then progress and use a barbell. So I've seen that, if you're somebody listening and you know why you're using it and there's
Starting point is 01:21:11 a very specific reason like, you know, i.e. what you were saying, Justin with Corey who's in, you know, sports performance athlete and he's using it for a very specific reason. You've been taught to do something because there's a specific adaptation we're chasing after. I'm not talking to you, but you're the 1%. If you're doing it and you know why you're doing it and it's safe, it's smart, it's effective and it's very specific to what you're trying to do, then I'm sure there's somebody out there that's listening to us right now. Oh no, no, no, I'm using it for this reason and it's okay, fine.
Starting point is 01:21:42 But the 99% the average gym goer that's listening, it's not a piece of equipment that I would be using. It's not a valuable piece in the arsenal. No, it's one of the first ones we would probably be able to. No, to get to say something good about it, it's got some versatility in the sense that if you have a small personal training studio and you want to put a machine, like you just have to have a machine in there, first off, I would choose cables first because cables are super versatile. Then second, Smith machine, it's more because other machines are like very specific,
Starting point is 01:22:13 like a hammer strength just does one thing and this does another thing. With the Smith machine, you've got a little bit more versatility with what you can do if you really want to have a machine. Yeah, I see that. Next question is from Sean B28. What are your opinions on debt? Did you guys take out any loans for your business? We did not.
Starting point is 01:22:31 Yeah. We did not, we each put in $1,000. That's it. That was the, that was the, Did we ever get that money? Yeah, I've never gotten that. Yeah. The fuck down.
Starting point is 01:22:41 A business loan. So come to think of it and I've had a few like multiple businesses. You know, my I'm very, so I'm very conservative when it comes to the money that I spend, but when it comes to business, I can also take very, very big risks. Now when it comes to debt, however, I'm pretty damn conservative with debt.
Starting point is 01:23:02 I've never, I've never held, I've never held bought a new car cache because you didn't want to take even on a car pay. Yeah, I don't like floating. I'm learning my lesson from college. Yeah, that was a big debt. I don't know. The way I look at it is there's two ways you could look at it.
Starting point is 01:23:13 I have a lot of family that's in investments and stuff. And so we have debates and discussions about this all time. But let's say you want to take out a loan for $15,000 and you have a particular interest rate. The way I look at it is, unless I'm going to take out a loan for $15,000 and you have a particular interest rate. The way I look at it is, unless I'm gonna take, I'm gonna invest the money that I'm saving and earn more than the interest rate I'll be paying on that debt,
Starting point is 01:23:35 it makes no sense to take out that debt if I have that already in cash. You see what I'm saying? So if I have $15,000 cash, then why take out a $15,000 loan when I'm just gonna be spending an additional $2,000 or $3,000 or more in interest? Unless I'm gonna take that extra money and say,
Starting point is 01:23:52 hey, you know why I got a loan? Cause now I'm gonna take that 15 grand, I'm gonna invest it in this investment, it's gonna earn me X percentage, which is more than the interest. Well, I could see, okay, what's the belt below the brown belt? It's brown belt, black belt. Purple.
Starting point is 01:24:07 It's purple. Okay, so I would consider myself like a purple belt in business. Like I'm by no means a black belt in building a business. And if I was a black belt in building businesses, I think that I would definitely leverage other people's money and not my own money because I'm very... That's when you get to that super high level. Yeah, super high level. You don't fuck up, you don't make mistakes.
Starting point is 01:24:28 You're so ahead of everybody else and you're smart enough to know like, and that's what some of your biggest millionaires and billionaires do is they use other people's money to build more businesses and they don't give a shit about interest rates. They don't want to touch their own capital and they're smart enough to it.
Starting point is 01:24:44 Now, why I say that is because 80% of businesses fail and there was nothing worse, or I can't think of anything worse, than the feeling I have when I fail at a business, and if I fail at a business and I didn't lose my money, I lost somebody else's money that I have to pay, I have to pay back and I got to pay back an interest on that. So, it's just not a smart strategy.
Starting point is 01:25:09 If you're just learning how to build businesses. If you are, it's one of your first couple businesses you've built. Statistically speaking, you're way more likely to fail than you are to succeed. And I think there's nothing wrong with that. I think that's how you become successful is through going through these failures. So you wanna fail with your, I gotta ask a question on my story about different things that I've invested in.
Starting point is 01:25:31 And I've invested a little bit here and there and stocks and big coins and things like that. But I've invested the most in myself. Most of the money that I have lost has been betting on myself and trying things out. And I have failed more times than I have succeeded. Now I'm getting you later in my years now where I'm starting to have more success
Starting point is 01:25:51 than I am failing. And that's because I think I'm now a purple belt at doing this. And I still wouldn't loan on anybody else's money because I don't think that I'm at a level where the percentage is in my favor that hey, when I brought a business plan and when I see something, I've done
Starting point is 01:26:07 this enough times to know that I'm going to execute and succeed. There's also, there's also a lot of skills that you learn and character that you build from saving for the education. Yeah, and saving money and not spending a lot of money and building up capital so that you can then take that capital and invest it versus getting alone and then and not spending a lot of money and building up capital so that you can then take that capital and invest it versus getting alone and then investing the loan.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Because sometimes people don't invest the money that they get loans for as good as if they saved that money themselves. Like a lot of times people will look at it almost like it's funny money and it's not real. Versus, you know, if it took you five years to save up a $100,000 cash and now you're gonna start a business with that $100,000,
Starting point is 01:26:48 you might think about it a little bit differently than if you had a $100,000 loan right out the gate. You might not get like a huge office with all these windows and all this accessory stuff, you know, for like, yeah, you would have a totally different thought process behind it because every one of those dollars, like you were, you know,
Starting point is 01:27:05 that's sweat equity that kind of went into that. So yeah, for me, I've definitely done the same thing in terms of betting on myself, my own ideas, going through the process of learning how, you know, all these things like, to me, it was like just basically paying for the education of the entire process of learning how to run a business, how to be successful in a business, and what then not to duplicate, and what to duplicate, you know, going, I also think you're less likely to make stupid decisions
Starting point is 01:27:38 when it's your money and you're having to make conservative moves. When you have X amount of dollars that you've saved up to invest in your business, and it's your money, and you're watching your savings account drop down every single time you invest in this business, you think long and hard about a lot of the financial decisions that you make. If you have an influx of a million dollars
Starting point is 01:27:59 that investors put into you, or a loan that you take out, a friend right now that's looking to build a business, and my biggest fear of that is that I know that he is not an entrepreneur by heart and they're looking at, you know, in getting a $300,000 loan and I'm like, fuck, that's a massive loan to go after a business
Starting point is 01:28:17 that you haven't built yet. Sure, you're an expert in the field but you haven't built a business. And I think one of the things that I used to say when we first started my impump, and that was always the indicator of this is that, you know, what will we do? And we've talked about this.
Starting point is 01:28:32 What will we do, you guys, if all of a sudden someone gave us $10 million? Like, can I honestly say I know exactly where to spend that $10 million? Like, no, I still think we're figuring that out as we go, which that's the benefits of us using our own money and then being smart about it and then reinvesting a little bit here,
Starting point is 01:28:48 you tend to make smarter decisions that way. When you have a bunch of money in the account that's not even yours, it's almost like you're playing with monopoly money. You tend to make riskier public. You get to get advantage of. So you get other companies that have staff like, oh yeah, we'll take care of the whole thing
Starting point is 01:29:04 and the whole process and it's all this promises and ideas and you don't really know the inner workings of that process and what to really look out for and how they're taking advantage of you. It's the promise of getting rich quick that I think elures people to going into so much debt. I think if people really looked at the real statistics and numbers and looked at people who became wealthy
Starting point is 01:29:30 independently, what you would find is a lot of people who become wealthy over long periods of time through conservative actions, working hard, saving money, not spending a lot of it, and investing their money in relatively conservative ways. That's the majority of people who become independently wealthy. There are those occasional people who risk it all and get lots of debt and hit a home run or whatever
Starting point is 01:29:55 and become millionaires, but those are the exceptions rather than the rule. The rule is, I mean, look, we just had 10 years ago, a major housing market crash. The big, big losers were these people who bought these houses and flipped them and were speculating and getting these loans where the interest rate was gonna balloon up after a year
Starting point is 01:30:17 or whatever, and they constantly were speculating and they were playing this game that, as soon as the market took a shit, that part of the reason why it took a shit was because of this, they know, as soon as the market took a shit, that part of the reason why it took a shit was because of this, they all lot, I had family members. I had cousins and family members who were earning, you know, 70 grand a year.
Starting point is 01:30:33 They're not earning that much money in the Bay Area. That's not a lot of money in the Bay Area. And these guys were only four and five houses. Like, really? Like, why are you leveraging yourself like that when you don't even have any, any, any of that cat, because they were playing that game of get rich quick and then when everything flipped, they lost everything.
Starting point is 01:30:49 They lost absolutely everything. The only way that I would leverage myself like that and take out a loan for a business is if I was duplicating something that I've already proven I can do. For example, let's pretend that Mind Pump is a hundred million dollar company we've been around for 10 plus years and we're killing it and
Starting point is 01:31:07 We've learned all this shit along the way and I meet these three guys or three girls that want to do almost the exact same thing as we are I can go back and backtrack. Okay. Well, I remember we spent money on the studio. We spent X amount of dollars for this I know we needed this we needed that this was we needed this. We needed that. This was a bad investment. This was bad. This was smart. Okay. So I know if we had a $125,000, I can invest in all the equipment, all the stuff we needed, all the build out, all the people, the staffing to get us to this point in our, and that took
Starting point is 01:31:38 us five years in mind pump to get there on the grind. I can get there right away in one year, and I can be generating the type of revenue that is. Now, if I had that plan that I had already built and I wanted to duplicate a business, totally. Just like I can see if somebody who's built up like a general store or built up something that they built from ground up, they learned all the shit and they go,
Starting point is 01:32:00 hey, I want to duplicate this business, but this time, I don't want to use my own money. I'm going to go find the talent. I'm going to take somebody else's money, and I'm going to be the smart guy who just makes all the calls and the chess moves. Then I see a lot of value in taking on debt using other people's money.
Starting point is 01:32:17 If you're a young entrepreneur that's trying to learn this process, or you think just because you think you have a good business idea, I don't think that's a smart strategy to go do that and all the people that I know that have made that decision most of them are still paying off that debt. Yeah, there's there's There's actually a big debt problem in America right now. I don't know if you guys know what the average the average American household How much debt they carry on their credit cards? So the average American household that has credit card debt, you're ready for this,
Starting point is 01:32:47 has a balance of over $15,000. Wow, okay. So that's the, and I think this is kind of what's happening. And it's funny because easy money actually causes a lot of problems. I'll give you a great example. A lot of people talk about why higher education is so damn expensive in this country.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Why is it costing a hundred or two hundred thousand dollars to get a degree in some of these colleges in America? Well, part of the reason is the easy money that people get to apply to go to these colleges. A lot of people get these loans that are really, really easy. And so then these colleges are competing for all this money. And so the prices go through the roof. Could you imagine if people had to pay money that they had themselves for colleges?
Starting point is 01:33:32 The colleges would then have to compete for less money and the market would have to shift. And you wouldn't see this ballooning of cost. And I also think people would invest their money in their education differently. I think you would see less degrees that have far less return. You'd see more degrees that have a higher return. But instead you have kids getting $100,000 debt
Starting point is 01:33:53 to go to college, and they're getting degrees that, if you look at them on paper, that degree is not gonna earn you back your money. Well, they probably see a lot more grants and scholarship opportunities from smart companies that wanna invest in potential, you know, employees or people to get them, you know, into the school. So it's, yeah, I just, I would see it like completely different, you know, like then the ease of access to just
Starting point is 01:34:17 getting in debt to me is definitely a problem. Next question is from John Alva 7. Did you guys ever get burned out in your career with client load or other stresses of the industry? If so, what did you do to keep yourself going? I did really early. I was only a trainer, like a full-time trainer for about a year and a half. It took me about six months to be fully loaded to where I was training eight to 12 clients a day
Starting point is 01:34:44 and really cranking. And then and so for basically a year of that, and I was over it, like a year of that and I was losing my love for the business. And not because I didn't like training clients, it's just, it's so much to give that much of yourself hour after hour after hour and to be a chameleon for that many people and to be training, I felt like 50% of my clients, I loved to train, 25% of them were like, I didn't care if I trained or didn't train
Starting point is 01:35:14 and then 25% I hated to train. I think that when you're a trainer and you rely on those hours and you're hustling like that, it got old really fast for me and the way I kept myself going was to elevate myself, was to become more of an expert in it and get to a point where I could teach others to go do it and be successful at it because I found a passion more for that teaching other leaders and developing other leaders into being great trainers than I actually did being
Starting point is 01:35:43 a trainer myself. I actually really feel like it's important that you know, trainers go through that process of getting to a point where you are overwhelmed. And for me, it really helped me to like solidify my systems. It helped me to become more efficient. It helped me to understand, you know, priorities. Like, it was like basically throwing yourself under the fire. And, you know, work on, you know, my communication skills. There was a lot of benefits I got from it, but yes,
Starting point is 01:36:17 it definitely burned me out. And it was one of those things where it sort of makes or breaks a lot of people to where like that, some people like never get out of it though, some people just think that that's the only operating system to go off of like I have to like maintain, you know, 10 clients a day in order to make, you know, this amount of money at the end of the year, and they haven't thought their way through like how to,
Starting point is 01:36:44 you know, get, like means from other directions and how to really evolve their business and think outside of the business. So, you know, after, yeah, like a few years of just grinding and kind of trying to figure it out, it forced me to get more efficient, more effective, and then, you know, inevitably start to charge a little bit more, free up opportunities for me to get more creative and then really assess the business from the outside. And I was thankful that there was a moment there where I was able to pull myself out of the business, look at the business, and see how to improve that and be more effective to a smaller group of clients. Yeah, I think the if you're gonna be, if you wanna remain a trainer, right? If you don't wanna get into management
Starting point is 01:37:29 and a big fitness company or whatever, you just wanna be a personal trainer, the training cycle would look, and you're do a good job, it would look something like this, like you get started, and so you're hustling your butt off to get clients. And so you just get as many clients as you possible can, and you're training a shit ton of people. And then you start to find out
Starting point is 01:37:45 that you start to get burnt out. So then the next step is training less people and charging more money. So this is something you wanna consider. If you are training eight to 10 people a day, which is a lot for personal trainer, shit, six people a day can be a lot for personal training because it takes so much energy.
Starting point is 01:38:02 If you're training seven to 10 people a day, start to do the math and say, okay, how many people will drop me when I raise my prices this much? Now you're training less people. And then the final phase, which is where I got to the last 10 years of my career, was I trained people, I loved training.
Starting point is 01:38:19 And these were people that would come in, and I learned from them the entire session. So these were doctors and surgeons and it's executives and older, a lot of advanced age clients because they are love talking to older people. I think they're so wise. So when they come in for me, it wasn't a challenge to train them because I've been training them for so long.
Starting point is 01:38:40 So I knew what I was gonna do, but they'd come in and we'd work out and then while we're working out, I'd ask them all kinds of questions about things. How'd you day go? What kind of surgery did you do? What did it look like? What does this medication do? What do you think about this business
Starting point is 01:38:52 or did you read this new article? And I'd have these fucking awesome conversations. And then doing that, I don't think I could ever get burnt out. But early on, when I was hustling and just getting as many clients as I could, oh yeah, you get to the point where you're just, okay, you have to psych yourself up for the next client. I got a good energy, I got to feel good.
Starting point is 01:39:10 You know, let's make this happen. So I think if you're at that point where you're just feeling like I have too many clients and I'm not able to provide as good as service, I'm starting to burn out, see about charging more, charging more. That's a no brainer. I think what Justin said about, I think everybody should go through this.
Starting point is 01:39:27 I think it's necessary one to hone in on your organization skills and then also to build up your book big enough that you can afford to lose five, 10 clients and be okay. Because inevitably if you increase prices, sure you're gonna lose a couple of people. Everybody had a client who was scraping by just to pay for the couple sessions that they had with you. When you say, sorry, Susie, I'm going up to 150 an hour or whatever your rate is currently
Starting point is 01:39:54 now and slowly incrementally increasing that. Of course, you're going to lose a couple, but it ends up evening out with the people that stay on with you and don't mind paying that extra 20 or $30 an hour. And I'm with you. And so the most of my career, that I was a manager who only had to train a handful of clients and I handpicked them. I handpicked the ones that could afford to pay whatever I was charging at the time and I enjoyed training them. And so it's why I could do is what I did for as long as I did. But early on I found out really quick.
Starting point is 01:40:28 I was only, I was 22 by the time. It takes the people to realize how much energy it takes. Oh man, it took a, and I love that. I put everything I had into it. I mean, I was full on energy trainer for sure. I was the trainer that when you walked in the gym, you always knew where I was at. You could hear me training my clients,
Starting point is 01:40:44 lots of energy, and I gave it all. But you know, you do that for a year straight consistently for eight plus hours a day. And yeah, it'll wear even on a guy, a high energy guy like me. And that's where I thought I found really quick. Like, okay, I figured this thing out. I'd rather teach it, handpicked the clients that I want to train that I feel like are also feeding me like Sal said, like it's not hard for me to train a client that I'm helping them with my expertise, and then I'm also getting to learn something about their expertise.
Starting point is 01:41:15 And when you get to that level, that's an awesome place to be that you're getting paid a high dollar amount for your expertise and your absorbing information from there, and you're kind of starting to weed out all the rest of the clients. Yeah. And, you know, I was having this conversation in fact with a friend of mine recently and
Starting point is 01:41:30 you know that we were having this back and forth and I said, you know, the average person, let's say the average person works 40 hours a week. That's like full time, right? At a regular job. How, what percentage of that 40 hours are they actually working, right? Think about that for a second. Most people, a lot of you guys listening right now, you know what I'm talking about,
Starting point is 01:41:47 you work at a desk and you're there, yes, you clock in and you're working, you know, if they're working right now, listening to us. Yeah, you're not really working all 40 hours. Some of that, a lot of that's bullshit-ing and whatever, they've done studies on this and shown that people, a big chunk of their day, is actually not working.
Starting point is 01:42:04 Well, when you're training eight people a day, five days a week, which is 40 hours, you're working all eight hours. There is no off. If I have a client in front of me, I can't just fuck off and listen to something or check my social media or call my girlfriend or whatever, I am on.
Starting point is 01:42:18 That's why I said, training even six clients a day is a lot. In fact, I believe a lot of fitness organizations, I don't know if 25 fitness changes, but back when I was with them, 30 hours a week was considered full time for personal training. Because again, you're on the whole time,
Starting point is 01:42:35 it just takes up a lot of your energy, but yeah, you want to get to the point where, I mean, here's a good tip for you. If you're charging a particular rate and your books are full, and you have a wait list, that is a very clear sign that you're charging too little. If that's happening to you right now, you have made a stupid business decision.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Don't feel bad about yourself. I'm not trying to make you feel like an idiot, but if you have a wait list and your books are full, you're charging too fucking little. That's a very clear market signal because But if you have a wait list and your books are full, you're charging to fucking little. That's a very clear market signal because you should not have a wait list. You should be being full is fine, but you shouldn't have three, four people
Starting point is 01:43:13 waiting to get on your books. If that should happen, okay, raise your prices. Next time the real roll cups up, you tell your clients, they listen to have four or five people on the wait list. I had to raise my prices. I'm gonna give you first dibs. This is what made me hustle.
Starting point is 01:43:27 That was always my goal. My goal was fill my books up until, and to the point where I actually will have people asking, I have to turn them away. So when I go to the price of, see that and that's how I would say, when they come to me and they ask the price, well that's when the new price went up.
Starting point is 01:43:40 New price would go up and then okay, maybe I don't have as many people for a while, my hustle to get the books filled again with the new rate Then when as soon as I get another person who's asking for personal training and I'm filled up again That's when the rates go up and then you just slowly start onboarding people with the newer rates that you're charging Until you got a book full of clients that you're making top dollars or because I think part of the problem is that Trainers will get into the business and will bust their ass. They're new, they hustled, they get all these clients.
Starting point is 01:44:07 And then they're looking at their schedule going, holy crap, I'm training 40 sessions a week. I guess I'm done, like is there nothing else? No, no, there's plenty of room to grow. You just start doing what we're talking about, where you charge more per session and then start to hand pick your clients. But make no mistake, when you first start,
Starting point is 01:44:24 you fucking bust your ass. You take everybody that offers you money to train. I mean, I used to take this everybody. When I first became a trainer, this is no joke now. And I remember I worked in a 24-hour fitness that was open 24 hours a day. I would come in and I'd start at 8 a.m. I'd have a break in the middle of the day for two hours.
Starting point is 01:44:40 So I'd be done like from noon to two and I'd come back and I'd train to 8 p.m. I'd go home, eat dinner, go to bed, I'd wake up, go back to the gym, and I used to train someone at two or three a.m. sometimes. These were people that would work a swing shift. And it got to the point where I was sleeping three, four hours at a time because I'd come back and forth to the gym, and I'd be there at all hours. And now this is not sustainable, but I was new, and this is what I did early on.
Starting point is 01:45:04 But then of course you progress yourself like we're saying, you start charging more, and then you start to develop your perfect schedule. You're like, okay, I only want to work from 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. And I only want to charge this much, and I want to have these kind of clients. Well, you get to it. That's the goal. That's the goal you should move to, and that's what you should do with your career. Otherwise, you will burn yourself out.
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