Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 916: The Prison Inmates' Mass Building Secret, Mastering the Bench Press, How to Program to Maximize Upper & Lower Body Gains & MORE

Episode Date: December 5, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about  how guys can put on so much mass in prison considering the quality of meals, why MAPS full body workouts have only one or two leg movements and the rest is upper body, cues and techniques required to perform a proper bench press and if they were professional wrestlers, what their names would be and the gimmicks would they use. Is Your Competitive Spirit Built or Something You’re Born With? (4:37) What Games are the Guys the Best at?? (15:05) Mind Pump Recommends Organifi Pure. (18:14) Sending Thoughts & Love to @ericafitlove: Erica Lugo. (20:36) The Future of Mind Pump TV. (25:02) Mind Pump a Walking Vuori Commercial. (27:29) Sal’s Daughter: Entertainer, Fearless, Strong and Talented. (28:45) Starbucks to Block Porn on Free Wi-Fi in US. (30:57) Mind Pump Recommends Salt Fat Acid Heat. (35:25) The Netflix of Sports: DAZN. (36:20) The Rapid Disruption of Various Industries/Markets. The Guys Speculate What will be Next. (38:14) The Long Gamble. Bitcoin Continues Steep Fall as Cryptocurrency Collapse Worsens. (46:10) #Quah question #1 – Why is it that guys can put on so much mass in prison considering the quality of meals? (48:33) #Quah question #2 – The MAPS programs seem more upper body dominant, how can I progress my lower body? (1:00:18) #Quah question #3 – Can you talk about the cues and techniques required to perform a proper bench press? (1:12:48) #Quah question #4 – If you were a professional wrestler, what would your name be and signature move? (1:24:13) People Mentioned: Erica 150 Lbs SW: 322 Lbs (@ericafitlove)  Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Dr. Michael Ruscio (@drruscio)  Instagram Warren Farrell, PhD (@drwarrenfarrell)  Twitter Elon Musk (@elonmusk)  Twitter Products Mentioned: December Promotion: Enroll in Any MAPS Program – 1 Year of Forum Access for FREE! Mind Pump Facebook Page: Leave a 5 Star Review and Enter to Win Free T-Shirt! Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Vuori **Code “mindpump” for 25% off** Days of Wonder Ticket To Ride Mind Pump TV - YouTube Mind Pump Episode 872: Dr. Warren Farrell- The Boy Crisis STARBUCKS SAYS NO MORE PORNOGRAPHY ON OUR FREE WIFI AS BAN SET TO BEGIN NEXT YEAR Salt Fat Acid Heat | Netflix Official Site DAZN, The Netflix of Sports, Is Coming to the United States in September The future of AI is neuromorphic. Meet the scientists building digital 'brains' for your phone Bitcoin Continues Steep Fall as Cryptocurrency Collapse Worsens Convict Conditioning: How to Bust Free of All Weakness--Using the Lost Secrets of Supreme Survival Strength – Book by Paul Wade Bench Press Properly With Ben Pollack (AVOID MISTAKES!!) | MIND PUMP David Schultz Says He Slapped Reporter Because Of Vince McMahon, What Caused Rift With Hulk Hogan Hitman: My Real Life in the Cartoon World of Wrestling – Book by Bret Hart Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, ob-with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of My Pove, non-plum. Well, for the first 43 minutes, we didn't talk a lot about fitness, but we did our introductory conversation. We start out by talking about the competitive spirit nature and nurture. Is this something you're born with or something that is trained within you? Maybe it's maybe lean then we talk about board games. These guys love board games. We talk about our favorite ones. I Mentioned organify pure. This is the new organify

Neutropic supplement that I'm absolutely loving. It's brand new. I think they hit it out of the park We are sponsored by organify if you go to Organify.com forward slash Mind Pump use the code Mind Pump. You will get a discount Then we give out a shout out to our good friend Erica fit love her real name is Erica Lugo, but she's on Social Media's Erica fit lug. She's going through some tough times So please make sure you pay her a visit and tell her you're sending your prayers. And thoughts with her. Absolutely. Then we talk about the mind pump. Thanks giving of vlog that we did on YouTube.

You got to check that out. We all had a great dinner. And then we all laughed at how we all wear the same clothes. We're all wearing Viori. And this is because Viori is freaking awesome. Of course, Viori is one of our sponsors. If you go to Vury Clothing, let me spell that for you, VU-O-R-I clothing.com forward slash mind pump, you'll get 25% off.

Then I talk about my daughter's acting career. She was in the play last night at school, got me all teared up. It's pretty awesome. It's a little fest bein'. And Justin's a little upset because now Starbucks will be blocking porn from the free Wi-Fi. Where am I supposed to go?

Kind of sucks. I mentioned an awesome series on Netflix. I think everybody should check out, especially if you're a foodie. It's called Salt Fat, Acid, Heat, it's freaking awesome. And then we talked about the skills that you will need for the future. After that 43 minute intro, we get into the fitness questions,

the first question was, why can guys who go to prison build so much muscle, especially when you consider the quality of food, and the fact that they're not eating that much, how are they building so much muscle? Is it the training frequency? Like what's going on? We uncover some of the secrets of prison training.

The next question was, this person wants to know why there aren't more lower body exercises in some of the maps programs. That's actually incorrect. There are tons of lower body exercises. They may be perceived that way. Find out how we explain it in that part of this episode. The next question was, we talk about squatting and deadlifting skills and the techniques needed to do those well.

What about the bench press? We break it down. We break down the skills and techniques to bench press the most weight and the most effective way possible. It is a skill. And finally, probably the most important question of all. If we were professional wrestlers,

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You know, it makes me laugh. Adam is that Justin was such a competitive kid. He knows it doesn't matter. We're joking. But if I say first, or you say first, he literally hustles again. I'm like, I can't help it. I'm like been conditioned to do that.

That's my whole life. He was so easy to motivate when he were free. But I thought I'd do it. So all I had to do was like put the top guy up on the table. Oh, I look just like. Literally that's all he did is highlight the top guy. And he probably even made one up. He knocked it for a while. I look you're you're in second place right now that pissed me off

Did you do? Did you do an ounce and it's like I said? I did you that although that's epic though. I remember that Yeah, show me the the the report like every day. Oh bro. I had I had a guy. Oh mine unplugged No, I had a guy that worked for me, my friend Larry, and he's super motivated by competition. Yeah. And so what I would do is, rather than telling him,

because he was so good that he used to blow everybody out of the water, like he was first place and then second place was like 10 grand behind him. So it was dumb. So what I would do is I'd get the report, email to me on the computer and I'd photoshop so that the second place guy was ahead of him

by like a grand or something like that. So he had to do that. So it's your day. And then I printed out so he was in second place and I'd put it up in the employee room or whatever and I'd highlight his name, Larry's name, and then I'd put like, you know, our own very own Larry Evans second place in the company and then I'd make an you know, our own very own, our very own, Evan's second place in the company

and then I'd make an announcement on the intercom. But like attention, you know, members and guests, please join me in giving it a pause to Larry's second place in the company. Way to go Larry! And the whole, and of course the whole gym with a plot and everybody's like, oh my God, second place in the company, that's so good.

So he's shaking his head. Oh, he stopped his workout. If he was working out or playing basketball, he'd stop. I mean, I'm like, what are you doing, bro? He's like, what the fuck? How was he ahead of me? I don't get it. It raged.

It took him like four months to figure it out. Cause then what he did was he called the guy that was beating him every month. He's just a check. He's like, what are you doing, bro? I called him. And he's like, I don't know. Why don't you tell me what you're doing, man?

And he always crushed me. He's like, huh? Yeah. And I got was like, I don't know, why don't you tell me what you're doing, man? And he always crushed me, he's like, huh? Yeah. And I got found out, but it worked. I got it. Do you think that's something that's strategy? Do you think that's something that's, you know, that we built like in us or something that we were born with?

Like, are you, were you somebody who's, because I know I've got that same thing too. And I want, and I always try to look back like, when did that really start? Like when did I become like really competitive? Because I'm competitive as fuck. Yeah. For me, I was always the youngest, right?

So I'm, yeah, I think that that has a factor for sure. Right. So all my friends were bigger, faster, stronger, and I was the little or guy growing up because I was a year behind everybody because I started school early. And so I think that naturally forced that in me. Like I was always trying to keep up.

And I think that, and then once you began to be able to keep up and I was actually rivaling or winning, I think that was what became something that I really enjoyed. I think it's both genetic, it has to be both, right? Genetic and environment. I think there's a strong genetic component,

but then there's a, like if you grow up with a lot of siblings, you're probably gonna be more naturally competitive, I would assume, right? Cause there's more siblings. Sports probably will probably teach you to be more competitive in the value of competition. How you're raised. But then I look at my dad, like my dad is ultra, like I'll never forget.

This was, I think it was like Christmas one year, Christmas or Thanksgiving one year, and I'm like 14 years old, so I'm already like a teenager mid teens, which my dad is, you know, in his four, he's like a grown man, right? Father of four kids, he's got four kids in the back. In his minivan, we had a, what was it, a Ford? What was it, aero star? Aero star. Yeah, we had one of those two of that piece of shit.

So we had a terrible vehicle. That was the fucking vehicle, right? So we had a Ford Aero star. And his cousin, it's like if you could like create a car, it would look like a wedge for a door. That's exactly what it was. That's what it was. By the way, we had a Ford Aero Star stick shift. Oh wow, you had a stick shift. We actually had a stick shift. Man, that's high performance. Long ass stick. So my dad had his Ford Aero Star

and then his cousin had a Ford Aero Star also, and he had his three kids in the back, and we pull up to the stoplight, and they fucking drag race. But this was all the time. He used to do this shit all the time, and they were just pool as fast as they could. And so my dad, having this stick shift, it was a little bit faster, and he got a little bit of ahead of him,

and then there was some traffic, so my dad just kinda got away. Then there was a red light, so my dad just kinda got away. Then there was a red light, so my dad, it's the brakes of the red light, but his cousin, because he was so eager to fucking compete, because they're all, my dad grew up with all these cousins and they're all super competitive.

His dad was so eager, I mean, excuse me, his cousin was so eager to compete that, he didn't hit the brakes in time, so it's a red light. So he hits the brakes, the car locks up, and he slides sideways through the red light. Shhh. And we're just looking at the door. No, it's a slider.

And then they make it across the side. So when we get to the house, he just talks shit the whole time to my dad about how he won. Yeah. Because he went through the red light. He's crazy. And my mom and his cousins wife were were just so angry like every time. Yeah.

So there's some genetic about it, too. It has to be. I think so. I think there's a genetic component. My mom's a fighter. I think I get that from her. Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of games and stuff like so every time we just meet as a family, everybody has like a game and we have to like, and so it didn't matter what the fuck it was, but like I had to win every single one of those games. And it's still like that and like Courtney hates it, like, because you know, her family like talks and it's like nice and it's like really boring to me You know because they sit around and talk all day fucking hate it like let's play some games Let's use the best duel out I'm competitive as a board games, too. Yeah, so like everything like you know ping pong, you know like darts Whatever the fuck it is. Yeah, we're just like at it. See are you now?

You're you see this in your kids? You know, I see it in my youngest, but I don't really see it in my oldest, which is interesting to me. And I feel like it is, I see a lot of, like my wife's personality in my oldest. And she was like that, but she was like, would, I mean, she played volleyball and she had like, she was involved in competitive sports,

but was never really like, you know, it was all in her terms and you know, that kind of thing. And I don't know, she was never really like super competitive about it, but that's kind of how he is. He like enjoys it for like the game and hanging out, you know, I'm like, you can get the ball, fucking win. Yeah, like, I don't understand.

Now my kids cry if they lose, it's so, and they don't, they never win because they never let them. So it's like, hey, well, I mean, if you're gonna get less in. No, I haven't either. If you're gonna cry, this is my, this is it.

If you're gonna cry, then you're gonna keep losing because this, I'm gonna keep, I want you to learn how to be okay with losing, but still be competitive. And so we'll play game, like we played Monopoly the other day. And, dude, Monopoly, by the way, that's a game

that's frustrating. It's decimating. Oh, yeah, that game is destroyed. That brings him to fame. Yeah, it does a lot of luck involved with that one. No, I mean, there's this good strategy. Of course there's strategy, but there's a lot of luck that I do.

The person that's like control the bank, I'm always skeptical. Yeah, fuck it's all that. Those hundreds going. Yeah, so we were,. Where's all that? Those hundreds going. Yeah, so we were, I was playing with my son and my daughter and I made them a bet and I said, okay, I said, if, if you guys win, if either one of you wins, then I'll buy you guys the larger size popcorn when we go to the movies later.

Cause when we go to the movies, they always get mad because they get them the junior. Like, you get the bigger size. I'm like, no, you're gonna get the junior because that's not good for you. So I said, okay, if you, I don't care who no, you're gonna get the junior because that's not good for you. So I said, okay, I don't care who wins. And the reason why I did this, because I wanted to see if they were able to team up and beat me. Because with Monopoly, you can trade and you know, you can do that.

Of course, of course. So I just wanted to see what we have, right? So as we're playing, and I'm pretty good at that game, I know with the strap, my son's really good at it too. So we're going, and now I'm starting to like do the psychological warfare. So my son's like, he goes to my daughter, he goes, hey, he goes, hey, give me that one and I'll take this one. And she's like, why?

And he's like, well, because they don't have more of these and I got a monopoly and I can put a hotel or whatever. And I'm like, he just wants to beat you to her. She's like, no, I'm not gonna do it. And he's like, but it doesn't matter who wins. We could beat Bupon. And I'm like, listen, I think he's trying to trick you. To winning right now.

So then he goes, I'll give you $1,000 plus this. And then now she doesn't want to trade it all with him now. And I'm cracking up and I'm pitting them against each other. It was a funnest game of all time. Have you guys played ticket to ride yet? No. That was the one that I got Mike Matthews for Christmas last year.

We should play that. If you guys would really like that game, in fact, I haven't followed up on a ask. It's a board game. I know, but how does it have to go? So it's got like, it's a layout of the map of the United States, and it's like all these train lines would go.

And you have to, and each, and there's sections, like to get from one state to the other state and somewhere along the other, and there's the strategy, you get more points for the longer runs. So if you can go from the east coast, all the way to the west coast, you get a ton of points for that,

and people can block each other. I can fuck up you by putting a piece, one of my pieces in your, in your, in your, so you actually played it? Oh, a lot of times. Really? Yeah, that's why I bought it from Mike because I, because remember when we first time hung out with Mike, one of the first times he's like,

he loves board games. That was like one of the things he said, I said, man, I got a game for you, I've been played ticket to ride. So it's super special. That's cool. One of my very favorite new ones, a blockus, which is, it's kind of like this interesting tetris, kind of you get all these shapes,

and you're supposed to get rid of all of the shapes interesting tetris, kind of you get all these shapes, and you're supposed to get rid of all of the shapes that you have, like all these pieces. And you can literally, like, block people with like whatever formations you create and all this stuff. It's pretty intense and you can talk a lot of shit as you do it. So what games are you guys the best at?

Like what games are you like, oh I'm this is this is my game hearts Hearts yeah, rook. Yeah, you're taking a four The child's connect for Courtney. I'm gonna. I hate that fucking I should defeat I got it on the feet. I'm gonna have Courtney like battle you dude Let's do it. Let's do it. I have no idea what her I have no idea like how she does it every time. She beats you every time. I took it one time.

I took it. I was a little frustrated. I took it. We were on like a two story like apartment at the time. And I had played like not just 10 times. It was like 50 times in a row because I was like, no again, again. And she's like, no, I don't want to. It's not funny.

Again, again. And she just, and she, I don't want to. It's not funny. Again, again. And she just, and she wouldn't like let, like, she's that good. And then she tried to let me, we want to pull. No, you're not letting me win. I know you did that purposely. She's like, yeah.

So I took it and then I threw it off the fucking balcony. You actually, you actually fucking threw it off the balcony. I took it. I took it. I threw it off the balcony. It's just still married here. You still married me. You know what one Katrina can't beat me at. And I me at an initial deny that I think she's won one time

in a relationship is the what's the the people match one? Or the the game where you you you flip up the people. Do it. What is that? Cool. Do I look like a bitch? Yeah. I know what you're talking about. Well, you like does he have a mustache? Yes.

I love that game. It's a great game. It's like go fish, but it's people. It's such a great game, because it's a game that you could play with like all ages, but you could also play with adults, and it's still the strategic game. It's so simple.

It's a great strategy game, right? We were playing, so like, I got rid of cable and everything, and so like, our TV, like, I don't know, like when we normally watch TV, like I start playing the Wii with the boys. And so we were playing like this Mario game where you can actually play like three people at the same time going through the levels.

And so we're playing together, and there's this one move you can do, where you like spin and you can grab the person and kind of throw them. And like we figured this out. And so like Ethan thought it'd be funny to grab me and like throw me and like kill me and like throw me down this thing. And I'm like, you son of a inside grab like

the whole rest of the time. Like any time we were just fucking each other. The whole rest like we'd never pass anything. We just kept killing each other the whole time. I went and I watched Reckit Ralph have to guys said that. Oh yeah. So what was it? It's really good. They did a good. They did a very smart. It was really good. And maybe because it's our generation, I grew up playing in the arcades, though all those games were familiar to me. And so, and so there's a lot of references, like you said.

I thought it was great. It was well written. I thought it was hilarious. Good message. So you said the first one or the second one? Oh, there's a second one. Yeah, the second one's in the theater. Oh, you never saw, you watched only the first one. Yeah

Oh, oh my God. You'll love the second one even more really yeah, the second one breaks the internet Yeah, that was the second one was smarter was even smarter than the first. Oh, no way. I've never seen the first one Yeah, yeah, the first one was great. Oh, okay. All right I didn't know there was a part two No, no, I guess I don't have kids. I don't pay to Yeah, I'm not getting specified because then I yeah, we wouldn't have known Did you guys ever try the the organify pure packets that they sent? I didn't do you guys in every they send them I've been waiting yeah

I remember they came in the clear pack the cocaine bags you just take them right away, don't you yeah? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I just got off the phone though was Shana shout out to her Congratulations, Shana's back Yeah, yeah, yeah, I just got off the phone though was Shauna shout out to her Congratulations, she's back. She's back with Organifi, which is cool. Oh, she's our rep. She's a homie Yeah, yeah, I love her cool to hear her back and then congratulations on the on the soon-to-be baby I know isn't that exciting. Yeah good for her Yeah, but anyway, but anyway, they they hit it out of the park then Pure's lit. It's a legit. Whatever you want to call it, Neutropic product.

It's actually legit. I combined it with a little bit of caffeine. And they did a good job because the problem I've had in the past with other Neutropics is they're so stimulant, heavy. Yeah. That really, it's not a Neutropic. it's just the stimulant, which is different. This I definitely felt sharper and a little bit more fluid with my, I guess my speech and my writing. So, and I've already used it a few times.

Now, does it have all the same stuff like alpha brain or is it different? No, that's synthetic, right? That's what bothered me. Well, no, alpha brain's not synthetic, but there's something in there that you don't like. No, it doesn't. The demons came out of me. No, what's it called, darn it? There's a compound in there that if you take too much of,

was it the alpha GPC or is it the? No, I don't think it was Bacopa. It's the one that makes me sleepy. Maybe Bacopa, there's a lot of that. No. No, no, no, no, this one, so pure has the lion's mane, which I really like. But then they have other things in there

that are good for your gut, for gut health. Oh. So this is why I think, this is why I think that helps your tummy you like. Well, here's why I think anybody will like it. Show me in brain. Because your gut is very closely connected to how your mind operates. Most of the neurotransmitters that we love to boost like serotonin and dopamine are produced in your

gut and they're connecting all kinds of mental issues with gut issues and mental issues can cause gut issues and then vice versa. So they're very smart to give you something that's good for your gut that's also gonna help your mind. So anyway, they did their homework. They did a very good job and very proud of them. Shout out to us, we need. Hey, you know who else we should give a shout out to? Who? And give just like our thoughts to Erica.

Erica, fit love. You guys saw her story. I just saw that stage two thyroid cancer. Yeah, so I just want to say to her. Now what do you, so what's really, it's crazy is that she just, she just came out and talked about that on her social media page on Instagram. We absolutely love her.

Our heart goes out there. She's such an absolute sweetheart. But we are having Mike Ruscio in, and he's coming in specifically to discuss thyroid. We get a lot of thyroid questions and it's an area that I know I'm not well versed. It's something that I feel like we're still learning a lot about. And there's a lot of unknowns to stuff. Well, there is because you could just off the topic of cancer, you could cancer, you could have thyroid symptoms of having low thyroid, go to the doctor, and they find that your thyroid hormones

are normal. And that may be because you have thyroid antibodies that are preventing you from utilizing thyroid properly. You may have other types of deficiencies or issues. And it's much more common than people realize of having issues with that. Now, can it be connected to somebody who has HPA dysfunction that you talk about all the time?

Well, in fact, the full thing is, so HPA is hypothalamus pituitary adrenals and thyroid. They actually throw thyroid in there as well, but for some reason nobody ever says HPA, AT or HPTA. So that's actually part of that axis. So when one is off, it affects the other ones. That's why they call it the axis. So is it common that people that have issues with it then that a lot of times are possibly

in these high intensity, high stress states of training and caloric deficits. You know, if you, if you're constantly hammering yourself all the time, because I know she, I mean, I follow her pretty regularly. And she trains really, really intense. That's tough though, because you're talking about cancer. And that's a really, really tough. Yeah, no, I'm not trying to connect that, you know, she's got cancer from the Stairmaster. But what I'm saying is that, you know,

somebody that is susceptible to something like that and is pushing the body like that, I would think that that can't be an ideal situation. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. I don't know. The stuff that I love to talk to Mike about. Yeah, it would.

It would be, I mean, you know, being fit and healthy is always gonna help you no matter what. So, but a lot of people being fit and healthy is always gonna help you no matter what. But that's a good question. But a lot of people being fit and healthy doesn't always, isn't always, we talked about this yesterday or the other day on the podcast about how they just came out with that study of somebody who went on a diet versus someone who went on a diet and then did cardio and you lose muscle mass. So technically the person who diets and then does all this potential intense cardio,

if you lose lean body mass, you're less healthy than the person that has more lean body mass. So it just exercise doesn't always necessarily correlate correlate with being healthy. Or just better. Yeah, no. If you go into any kind of a difficult treatment,

like some of the ones that are for cancer, you probably wanna go into it with as much muscle as possible, just because of the muscle loss that occurs. Now, the good news is, and I don't know the details of her diagnosis, but I do know that most thyroid cancers in stage one and stage two are pretty treatable. Yeah, they're pretty treatable, but you still gotta go through some nasty stuff,

and we wish her the absolute Yeah, best. I mean, you know, so if you know who she is, she's a wonderful young lady great social media page. She's been on our show. She's a fantastic person. Yeah, Erica fit love is on Instagram and get on there and wish her, you know, like She's also getting ready to open. I mean, this all hit right at the same time, I feel for it at the same time, she's getting ready to open up and launch her business. Why me not sure business has been going, but she's got her own store front, and I know that's all exciting news for her. So, it was, I mean, she's a badass. Yeah, she has.

That girl has done a lot of shit on her own, and made it happen. So, you know, what's that saying? You don't, you get as much as you can handle or whatever, like life throws at you, you can handle. Yeah, that's how the Bible is. Is that what that is? Yeah, I can't.

Anyway, I'm right from that. She's a, I mean, she's a badass. So if anybody could take this and spin it into a positive, it's definitely, you know, definitely hers. Yeah, you guys see, we're getting a lot of good feedback on the mind pump. Thanks, heavy. If you listen to this podcast and you don't go to the YouTube

channel ever, what's wrong with you? Yeah. Yeah, you don't go to the YouTube channel ever what's wrong with you You don't really love us Well, that says and if you're listening right now for those and I'm gonna I'm gonna put this out here So they they know what's coming in the future in the near future is We have mind pump TV, which is the main Channel for us We also have mind pump radio, which is on YouTube, which mirrors the podcast, which those that just like the YouTube platform better and they want to listen to the podcast.

Listen to the podcast on there. But eventually we're going to start to really segment the YouTube channel. We'll still continue to have the main page that we'll get all this stuff. But now the thing has grown to the size it is. I think we're up to 150,000 subscribers and we add on average 300 to 700 subscribers a day. So it's rapidly growing. I'm gonna, yeah, no a day. And as it's growing, we're getting more and more people

that want specific content for that. And of course we want to try to do that as much as we possibly can without creating a ton of extra work for ourselves. And so what we're going to do is there's going to be a just exercise library. That's all the exercises that we have in the programs and information like we've been doing for a long time in there. And then there'll be like the vlogs and the more long form content that's more on the entertainment side. And we'll start to separate that. So, you know, if you're, if you're there for the

entertainment, you can just be there for the entertainment and you don't give a shit about the informative type of stuff. Um, and those that are just wanting education and they don't, and they have a hard time listening to someone like Paul check, and they don't want to hear something like that. And they did just want that content. I know we got on the YouTube channel, there's a lot of people that had never listened to our podcast and were introduced

to what was the gentleman's name that I really enjoyed. Oh, Ferrell. Mark Ferrell, Mark. Yeah, Mark. No, I'm not. Yeah, Dr. Mark Warren Ferrell. Warren Ferrell's day. Yeah, I was gonna say,

that's on our forum. Yeah, so. Mark Ferrell, Hey, what's up, buddy? Hey, shout out to our forum guy. Yeah. So Warren Farrell was definitely, you know, shocking conversation, a great conversation. I love one of my favorite interviews we did, especially for the climate that we're in right now.

That Thanksgiving vlog looked like a massive, just, an accident of the commercial. Yeah, because everybody showed up worrying. I think we even said that in the vlog. We did. Yeah, I think someone made a comment, I think Taylor made a comment, but that wasn't planned, dude, that was really, no, yeah.

That's just how much we all wear the gear. I fucking love the gear. Well, what's so funny about it is I've worked out so many times now with the Vury pants on because they're so comfortable and like I can squat dead, lift you all these things with them anyway. And I don't like, I've never worked out in pants like that many times. Because you always rip the seat. Yeah. It's a risk. It's a real risk. It's a dope brand that again, Kudos to Taylor, you know, this is why we have him on staff. He's brilliant when it comes to stuff. And it's really cool to see,

you know, when Taylor finds a brand like this, and a lot of people probably don't know this or won't know this, because they're taking off like crazy now, but you know, we were talking to Viori over a year and a half ago, and that was a long time in the works to make that happen. We were the first podcast they ever advertised on or collaborated with,

and now I'm starting to see them everywhere Yeah, and I mean they're popping up. Yeah, they're growing like crazy. Yeah, and so that's cool. That's your product Yeah, it's a great product and you know just highlighting Having someone badass on our staff that that's that's what they do. It's pretty fucking cool Yeah, he found the right one. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Anyway, so I showed you guys those videos yesterday from my daughters. Yeah, I did. Oh, that melted, yeah. Oh my God.

Well, you know, we were so nervous. Did she have personality, man? I know. She's fearless. She's going to be kind of sub-community. It's really crazy because I would have never done that at her age, but she loves it. And so she was the, she was Wilbur in Charlottesville.

Now her mom seems quiet and shy to me too. And you never would she have done that either. Yeah, that's really interesting to me. That's why when she comes here to visit, she's enamored by the cameras and the mics. She wants to be on the YouTube channel. She wants to that man. I, I, I am and I want to make sure I foster it the right way

because I don't want her to end up in fucking Hollywood. Because, you know, she can end up in Mind Pump Media, can you hear me? Hopefully. No, it's funny, because when we came over for dinner and she was showing my kids magic tricks, and she's really into entertaining, and that inspired my oldest actually to get into magic.

No way. He's totally trying to figure out these card tricks and stuff, but it was cool to see that They were like really like enamored by your daughter's like performance I've taught her a few magic tricks and so when people come over she'll and I tell her I said you have to practice in front of the mirror So she'll practice in front of the mirror and I'm like, you know what you know what got her into it is I showed her David Blaine. Oh, yeah, I put David Blaine's magic whatever show on Netflix and

She went like she watched like three of them straight. It was like three hours I didn't want to take her from there because I could tell she was into it. It was sparking something inside of her Yeah, last night we go there. We're watching the play and I'm super nervous. You know, I'm like, oh my god My kids are gonna go up there and like nervous for her. Yeah, she comes out and she just fucking kills it. And it's like, you know, I wasn't that emotional over person before I had kids. You know what I mean? But I'm sitting there. I'm, you bro, you can't wait.

I can't wait for you Adam. Yeah bro. You'll see it. Waterworks dude. It's always the guy that's the biggest hard ass. Always. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, I'm sitting there and I can feel it. It's on the, I'm gonna pierce you. I gotta fight it the whole time. Don't cry. But, you know, and then I gave her flowers afterwards and gave her a big hug and just it was so awesome to see that, so awesome. Hey, Justin, what are you gonna do

about the coffee shop issue, man? What's that gonna do? What's that coffee shop issue? Oh, you just didn't hear? No. Oh, it's Starbucks putting a stomp on no more porn watching. Oh yeah, I did see oh They're gonna block that I don't know like I might have to do it at my house like a regular person

Yeah, they can go out you watch my second office. It's a big issue They had a huge petition. I can't why are there people just pulling up on their computer? I mean come on. Yeah, that's it's free. Why find that? It's Well, I mean, come on, you know, that's like, it's free Wi-Fi. It's the number one thing that everybody watches. Plus, you have a little dopamine boost from the caffeine and you know, hey, I'm gonna sit over here in the corner and I'm gonna know what's going on. They have locks on the bathroom doors.

Yeah. Well, I don't think they're in trouble for looking up porn on the bathroom. I must be out in the public. Yeah, that's what it is. So McDonald's did a ban on this like a 2006 or some of that long time ago. And supposedly Starbucks was supposed to fall suit and they just never did. And finally enough people got together and petitioned in and said, hey dude, I'm getting

tired of waiting in line to get my coffee. And you know, Justin's over there watching, you know, back door ban. I might, yeah, I might have to go back to just Instagram. Yeah. We just get it all from there. Topl porn, it's bandits. I might, yeah, I might have to go back to just Instagram. Yeah. Just get it all from there. Top of porn, it's great. That's great. They actually had to do a ban.

What's funny to me is like, who, I mean, I get it. That you would do that. I guess maybe you just want the free Wi-Fi and you're too cheap to do it from house. I think some people, I think some people are you that addicted that you got to do it? They're gonna do it bags out there. They'll do that.

I think some people get off on doing that kind of shit in public. Oh, really? Yeah. Don't you guys remember there was like a case out there of this guy that was on the plane that was just like sitting next to somebody and there's a laptop just just puts it out there like, oh.

You know what would be funny? Actually, that would be a hilarious. That's the worst part of a hilarious video would be to plug in your fucking you know or your over-ear headphones noise cancellation on the plane pull your apple laptop out and just straight watch porn at the plane. Yeah exactly what that guy did. This lady next was poor lady like it's like you know like hitting the call button like I love to make a video of that would it not be

hilarious to do that to someone that's like the most uncomfortable moment for that poor lady. There's this have you guys heard of this I'm just picturing like the face of the person next to the person. Yeah, and he's just like eating. You know, I just like imagine for

the you're the middle seat. We should make that deal the next watching live. Whoever's middle seat has to do this. Yeah, you just pull it out. Yeah, dude, you like turn to the guy next year. Are you seeing this one? Yeah, I got I got something worse for you. I one of my buddy

So I have this group of friends that place pranks on each other and they're just fucking ruthless like terrible terrible pranks And there was this this text that you could send to someone. I got the email dude my cousin did this No, no, this isn't the porn one. I love that one too. I'm looking at porn. Yeah, I'm looking at porn. Oh, or it says it out there. No, this one, you tap it and it starts speaking in like,

Arabic and Islamic writing goes across your screen and then it does accountant. Oh, that's so rude. He's not a plane. He's not a plane. That's so right. He's not a plane and my buddy texted him on the plane. So he opens it.

It's like, yeah, and it's like real loud. You know, and then you can count down 10. No. I've never seen that. I've never seen that. It's a fucking worse thing you've ever seen. I've never seen that It's a fucking worse thing you've ever seen that is fucked up That's a fuck

Justice that oh that would kill my literally would kill me We gotta incident People will fuck you up. We got a live one over here. People be so mad at you. You're gonna get your ass Like we know you don't even lot of sexist just whips out. You're gonna need a lot of say bomb at the airport. You say that, people give you the dirtiest. Yeah, no, no. You could say a lot of other things before you say that

in an airport and people fuck for you. Well, you're gonna get your ass beat because everybody knows now. Like, if somebody ever did something like that nowadays, the whole plane would beat your ass. Yeah. So he's like, try to follow. Oh my god. Everybody knows now like if somebody ever did something like that nowadays the whole plane would beat your ass Oh my god, grambling the funniest was that recid or what I know was a while ago, dude We were fucking pissing our pants. That's great. Yeah, it's the most terrible thing I wanted to tell you guys about a it's not a documentary, it's like a short series on Netflix

that you guys have to watch, it's phenomenal. What is it? Is it fat? What is it called? It's the one I was telling you about earlier. It's so phenomenal, it's called salt, fat, acid, heat. Salt, fat, acid, heat. So it's this female chef.

Sounds delicious. It's this female chef who is one of the most personable people I've ever seen on TV. You'll instantly like her and she explains why those are the four ingredients that you need to master if you want to master cooking. And she goes around the world and explains like she goes to Italy for fat and talks about how they use fat and they're cooking. And you know, the fat that you know distinguishes Italian food is all the

voile and she talks about. But then she shows when she cooks and how it cooking and you know the fat that you know distinguishes a tie-in food is olive oil and she talks about but then she shows when she cooks and how it works and the science and it's such a good documentary it's so so good I'm gonna try and reach out to the script in fact because her book is well selling shit tons of copies. Speaking of Netflix you just reminded me of an article that I just read about a company called Dazen or DAZN are you guys familiar with it? No. They're like the Netflix of sports. So it's a UK streaming service that is just launched in the US in September

after already getting a foothold in the markets in Canada, Germany, and Japan. Now the company has begun its full marketing blitz with TV ads running during NFL games. So they're like, the sports, I'm excited about that. So you could pay a monthly fee and watch like NFL stuff like that. I thought the NFL had exclusive deals with with like ABC and I think they did. I don't think that I think now they've all moved away from that. So really. Yeah, that's it right there. But I mean, I'm. Oh, they've got MMA and shit mostly. Right. Well, so if you're a sports for that, I can you watch MMA basketball hockey? I mean, all the things that I watch. So it's got all those sports?

Yeah, I mean, it gets to gonna be the, that's they call it the Netflix of sports. Well, this is the future. Yeah, I mean, there's really no, there's no way to, what's the word? Stop it from happening. Everything, all a cart. Yeah, and then you just sort of like pick your options.

Yeah, I love it. Yeah, that's pretty cool. I hope they succeed. I love it too. The only knock that I have, I mean, I've told you guys I've been on this, the streaming kick kick and you know, I've got it all set up now at my place and I for the most part I like it but it's not quite like when I watch like I watch record Ralph if I watch if I stream a movie That's like you know saved or what I thought the quality is just and

Sports is normally when you run cable sports is like the highest quality. That's the one thing. Yeah. When you watch, you know, high death, you know, cable, cable sports, it's the bad. I mean, you could see the blades of grass, you know, it's like so, so crystal clear. And with the streaming, it's not quite up to that level yet. And I mean, we're so close. I feel like it's, it's there. And it's, it's good enough that it makes the sense

for what I'm paying. I'm going like, okay, well, I'm not paying very much. I'm under $100. And I was well over $200. Really? Yeah, before. I was like, two-fifth, two-thirds. Old media is dying.

There ain't nothing that anybody can do to stop it. They're absolutely dying. They've been disrupted like crazy. And that's already do to stop it. They're absolutely dying. They've been disrupted like crazy, and that's already, that's obvious. Education, I think, is gonna be the next big massively disrupt, it's already starting to happen, where that's starting to get disrupted. I'm seeing more and more articles now.

I had a debate with my uncle, of course, you never wanted to debate somebody who just finished their degree with that, you know, they get a hell of a piss. Of course I do. You know what I'm saying? Because we had a, I did the exact same thing. You wasted your money.

Yeah, two college students that just graduated and my uncle and we're all talking. I said, I think, I think education is going to get flipped on its head in the next 20 years, for sure. How can you deny that? Well, you know, some people think that it's too much of a, um, uh, too big of a ship to turn. Yeah, they have too much control right now. Like the universities have too much control.

Okay. Let me ask you a question. Does, think of an industry where, think of an industry that compares to media in terms of how much control the media, before the internet came along, before the, well, they fucking control everything. They're part of their argument

and that I somewhat agree with is like, when you think of like some of the politicians that are out there that are making decisions and setting regulation and and pushing these things through or what would allow or not allow something to happen, you know, many of these people from these prestigious schools, the Harvards, the Stanfords, you know, they're probably a good old boys club and they're all in there and they're going like, you know, I get that, but I could see it being hard to. I get that, but media as powerful as they are,

Hollywood as powerful as they are. I agree with you. I'm playing Devils, I know that was the one who's arguing. They couldn't stop music being stolen, movies being stolen. They had to join. Well, the parents influence is gonna determine all of that. It's not the institutions.

It's the employers. The employers are going to determine it. What is it? What stops right now? A student taking courses and then turning around and basically teaching it and just not calling it because where you get in trouble of you, oh, this is Harvard courses for this with that, but what's the stop a student? Nothing. You could create a channel right now. Right. YouTube and do it yourself. And teach yourself. You know what I'm saying? I'm not a certified teacher, I'm not this much too, but I'm gonna teach you what I'm learning. And the market will determine how good you are. Right, and if he's good at fucking giving the information.

That's right. I think employers are gonna, I think employers are gonna drive it because, let's say you're a tech company, which most companies are gonna be tech companies in the next 20, 30 years, right? They're all gonna be tech. But let's say you're a tech company and you want, you know, you, because I was actually having this argument with my cousins the other day and we were going back and

forth on the value of going to one of these Ivy League colleges and the connections you'll make in this and that and that the connections are worth it. And I said, okay, I can understand that. Like I could, I could definitely understand today going to Stanford, or MIT or whatever, and people see that. And that gives you a lot of prestige. I said, but let's just fast forward 10 or 15 years. You're an employer. You have two people in front of you.

One of them got their masters at Stanford. The other one got their education on their own, but also started their own YouTube channel, has a hundred thousand subscribers, has already built authority in the market because of how they talk and how they do things. So not only do they have the following, but they also have experience in improving

that they can talk about these things, which one's more valuable? Which one's even more valuable? And so that's what I think's gonna happen. I think a point. Yeah, but which one is easier to employ? Easier to employ? Yeah.

The self-starter, in my opinion. Yeah. Well, I just, like, you know, some businesses will think of it in terms of being able to indoctrinate them in their system and all that. Like, somebody that already has a YouTube channel and already has all this, like, cloud made, you know, think of themselves very highly.

I really think the way we're gonna see it happen is companies like, I mean, like we talk about Amazon taking over 50% of Econ. I mean, that's just fucking blew my mind here. That's that, I mean. So someone who is that powerful that employs that many people, I feel like it, they will create something that will be like an in-house education.

And if you're a young kid in high school right now, love Amazon, love the company, follow it already. They take their one-year course. Right. And then you have an opportunity to be levels. Certification one gets you jobs that entry-level jobs that could pay between 25 and 50. If you go through level two certification, you can have a potential. I don't like just like imprenishives back in the day. It's like on a different platform. Plus with tech companies.

Plus with tech and how fast technology advances. If you go get a four year degree, the shit you learn in the first two years when you graduate, it's gonna become somewhat obsolete. Now you go work for one of these big companies, they're teaching what they need you to know right now. And it's probably gonna save them money, especially when the market gets so competitive

as it is when you're looking for these workers who are gonna do these high-skilled things, rather than waiting for kids to come out of school, you're gonna, I think they're gonna go pick them. They're gonna go pick them out of high schools or they'll pick them out of the junior colleges or whatever, hey, come take our course and it'll cost you nothing,

but you'll work for us, type of deal. Yeah. That's what I think's gonna drive it. So I think education is gonna get totally destructive. I see it, yeah. Big changes, big changes. I mean, it's all the access to all that information is out there already.

It's a matter of like, you know, the consumer really finding it. So I don't really see like a big urgency anymore to get a degree. How weird will it be when things go the direction that Elon Musk believes it's gonna go? What if in 20 years, you know, you have not your phone. No, knowing shit's gonna be nothing. Right.

Like getting taught doesn't matter. I can Google search it. No, you're right. You know what I'm saying? Like how crazy is that gonna be? If he's right, if he's right where the evolution of AI is really gonna look like it's gonna get integrated into us. Okay.

Have you heard of, Sal, have you heard of Neuromorphic? What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? Why don't you ask me? I just, I don't know. I don't know if you're, I was like, I was like, I was the epic American.

I was the one that was just talking about this and then you just put the look over there and ask him. He figured it out. Sorry, I don't mean to like, I'm a fucking dick. I was one that was just talking about this and you just look over here asking him He figured it out. Sorry I don't mean to like fucking dick oversee you So Adam you're gonna have Neuromorphic No, I have competing. Okay, that's how cool. Yeah No, so it's it's like this this computer chip that I guess that they're trying to mimic the human brain in terms of like the neurons

And like so they've already shown with like what they can do with these chips for this computer. Basically the speed of it's like I don't know for it a 10 times faster already firing than the human brain. So mimics the human brain but like basically for it a 10 times faster. That's insane. I have not heard of this. Yeah. I mean I think along the lines of what you guys are both talking about, I think the value, the things that are going to be worth a lot in the market in the future are not going to be how much knowledge you have. Because as knowledge becomes more and more accessible and as we become, as it becomes easier for us to access it, you know, in real

time, then that skill is going to be, it'd be like, it's almost like having a skill where you can add up really well, like, you know, oh, I can add up really well, like nobody cares, we have calculators, doesn't, doesn't, it's still, we need more. I think the skills you're gonna need are gonna be creativity, are gonna be people skills and how to integrate all these things. I think those are the skills that we have.

To integrate, it'll be integrate and disseminate the information, right? To be able to distillate the information, right? To be able to distill all the notes. You can filter it all and you can present it to somebody and communicate it better than the machine would. That's what I see. Because we see this today.

We still saw examples. There's plenty of brilliant minds that just cannot articulate their point or cannot teach it to somebody else. That skill set will be even more important in the future. Talk about other crazy things and disruptors and shit going the other way. You see Bitcoin, fucking fall through.

Taking, huh? Taking. Yeah, all the down to like four, four grand or five grand or something crazy. It was 19,000. What a Bitcoin hit. Yeah, I feel like they do this to then like later it's gonna have a big jump.

Well, I mean, it looks like it's a pump and dump. Yeah, it's a pump and dump, but exactly. Yeah, it looks like they do this to then like later it's gonna have a big jump. Well, I mean, it looks like it's a pump and dump. Yeah, it's a pump and dump. Exactly. Yeah, it looks like that's what I mean, it doesn't, to me, I have my brother-in-law, my good buddy, our buddy Everett, like we, I have a bunch of buddies that, you know, Craig was doing it too. They all got on it and they were, they were kind of like day trading in and they're just, they're fucking with the margins and I know Chris Harrington on our forum. I know he's a day trader and he falls stuff like this

You know, I looked at it like and I still stand by what I said from the very beginning is I believe in in in it long term I bet on about seven different coins that I thought were we'll do something I don't give a shit where they're at right now I haven't sold any of it. I put a few bucks in all of it a long time ago and I will hold on to it forever until it's fucking crazy. And I'm not trying to make a quick dollar off of it because again, and I said this in a recent podcast,

you know, regardless if it goes legitimate and becomes a legitimate currency for us, it will serve the black market. And I had a, you know, one of my good drug dealer friends I was hanging out with yesterday. So what's one of the many? And you know, that he gets paid in Bitcoin. I mean, he's dealing with major, you know, major product and the safest thing for, you know, him to get paid in right now is to do that.

Yeah, I didn't, I think you're smart in the sense that you got it and you forgot about it. Yeah. I think people, when you play that kind of game, just do it and leave it and take money that you don't need to worry about. Yeah, it's a long gamble for me. That's the way I looked at it, you know. Yeah, same here. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods

to help give your health a performance-the-edit edge. Try Organify totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindP pump for 20% off at checkout First question is from just James Why is it the guys can put on so much mass and prison Concerning the quality of meals and their only advantage is training frequency Is it possible that training frequency trumps caloric surplus for muscle building?

Well, that's you absolutely you could argue that. I mean, there's a hundred, I mean, yeah, you got all these guys are doing shit three times a day, dude. I mean, I for sure, I thought about going to prison just so I get jacked. It's shit. Aside from the fear of, you know, I thought about it. You said I'm like, I would just work out all the time. You got nothing else to do.

Well, it's gangrene. I would read and I thought about it. You say, I'm like, fuck you. I would just work out all the time. You got nothing else to do. Well, it's gangrene. Read, I would read and I thought about it. I thought about going to jail just so I could get educated and get buff. I've never had that thought though. Like, what if I went to jail? Like, not that you'd want to go.

Right. But that's what you would do. No, I'm serious. I mean, I literally literally thought about purposely going to jail, but I really thought, like, if I did get thrown in jail. And of course, I thought about this. I mean, I was doing things that for sure could have got me in trouble

So this is definitely a thought yeah, this is definitely crossed my mind and I thought and I thought well What would it be that bad if I had to serve five years well five years? I fucking it'd be like going through a university. I would just read and train read and train come out Everybody like fuck. Well, that's you do something about your pretty face somehow. Yeah, oh yeah Well, that's you do something about your pretty face somehow. Yeah, yeah, yeah, do something. Yeah Yeah, cuz you can't fix that bro. Just hands are your fresh fish It's so this actually highlights something that's quite important to highlight and that is that if you send The right signal to your body if your body wants to build muscle It usually will. Now, there's a lot of people that will debate me over this.

A lot of people in the muscle building space who say, you know, no, it's all about just eating more food and you can't over train, you're only under eat and I've heard statements like that before. Absolutely ludicrous. And here's how you know. I could take anybody. I don't care who you are, keep their diet the same,

keep their training the same. Just give them steroids. Guess what's gonna happen? They're gonna gain a little bit of muscle. Now that's a hormonal signal, but that just highlights that. If you send the right signal, somehow, things will start to happen with the body.

Now with that particular example, that person may lose body fat and build muscle because they're not taking in more calories. But with the example of people in prison, it's the training frequency, number one, the second thing is they probably get good sleep. You go to bed at a certain time, you wake up at a certain time.

Yeah, they're all regimen. They're also what I think people aren't considering, because you think, oh man, they're only eating like three meals a day. It's not a lot of calories to build, but they're not moving a lot either. They're pretty sedentary. Well, bro, if you have nothing else, if you're in the prison, all your only activity is training. You're working out. You're doing workouts, you're doing trigger sessions, you're doing pushups, you're doing sit-ups, you're doing lunges, and you're

doing all that in your cell too, because you know, you do. It's like survival mode. That's it. And the body responds very, very, very well to training frequency, especially if you're... Here's the thing with training frequency that a lot of people need to understand is that it needs to be done consistently for you to see how it works. Because I know people will be like, oh, I do.

You know, I've done the real, the frequent, like, trigger sessions, you know, on some days, like, no, no, it's not the same. Do it every day, and then watch what happens. Didn't we think about naming one of our programs like the prison workout or something like that just because we didn't think that people would think it's challenging enough.

I think it was anywhere. I think anywhere we talked about. To Sarah, I actually have a book. It's like Convict Conditioning and I think Dragon Door put it out. But yeah, it was all about that as far as like how to like make the most intense Bodyweight training you possibly could it's so funny because when I

first Created the first maps program at Santa Ballack, right? And when I came up with the concept of trigger sessions It was the blue-collar workers and it was people who went to prison that inspired that it really was because I thought to myself You know, I have all these family members that are blue collar workers that don't work out, but the body parts that correspond to the activity that they do with their job. For example, plumbers and their forearms or my, you know, family members that were male carriers and their calves, they all had these very muscular body parts. And, you know, they weren't tearing muscle down, they weren't hammering their bodies.

It was just this frequent stimulation over years and years and years. So, the point where I have muscular body parts and you know they weren't tearing muscle down they weren't hammering their bodies. It was just this this frequent stimulation over years and years and years. So point where I have uncles who are totally be conditioned otherwise like skinny arms, pop belly, but because the dude has been a male carrier for 18 years, he's got sculpted diamond calves like no joke. And then I have again again, other four family members with forearms that would rival an amateur bodybuilders and the rest of their bodies aren't that musculine?

I stepped out from being a carpenter's whole life. You know, these crazy forearms. Exactly, and then I thought to myself, forearms are almost the size of his biceps, actually, it's really crazy. And he's not, he doesn't work out. Yeah, no. It's not even a workout for him to swing a hammer anymore.

It's super routine. It's that frequent stimulation. And then I thought about prisoners. And I said, ah, that makes perfect sense because when people go to jail, you have nothing else to do. You got nothing else to do. So what do they do workout harder?

No, they're working out hard. They just work out more and more frequently. And in fact, when you talk to people who've been to prison, they'll tell you that they do similar concepts to like what trigger sessions are. So they'll have their time where they are, they have in the yard. They'll spread it out throughout the entire day.

Right. And a lot of gym, by the way, in California, I think prisons got rid of weights completely. Yeah. So weights are out of California prisons. So however, what a lot of people are doing is they're just doing push-ups, sit-ups. They're using their beds for dips and their beds for body rows

and they're using towels where a partner pulls on the towel and they pull it to do rows. And they do workouts literally when you talk to, because I have friends who've been to prison. They're like, oh yeah, we'll work out four times a day, every day, every single one, because what else are you gonna do? And you're extra motivated.

You have nothing else to do. And their bodies respond very well, even though their calories aren't super high, I know when they're trying to build muscle, like tuna fish is like gold, and they'll trade pretty much anything for tuna fish if they want to gain muscle. And the last for the family to send and create team through the mail a lot stuff

But it's it's the it's the training signal and this is why you know for a long time in the fitness industry we've taken the The focus off of workout programming for some reason I remember when this happened like if you look at bodybuilding magazines in The late 80s, they were still talking a lot about this workout that did real well. I blame supplements, man. It is. I mean, it went, I mean,

because it wasn't that long ago when supplements really didn't exist for the most part. They just weren't big like there. Yeah, and it became all about the supplement. Everything was all about maximizing the pump and now the pre workout and what the anabolic windows and like, the workouts fell out the window. Yes, all the arguing and debating

and all this stuff became all about the supplementation and it was like, wow, no, it's really difficult. Discussing and I, I'm just as guilty of this. I mean, I fell into the same belief of that too. I was all my trainer buddies and I were always, have you tried this yet? Have you tried that yet? Stacker, you know what I'm saying?

Like, we weren't seeing around going like, oh, are you talking about how they were programming? Like, oh, exactly. No, no, as trainers, we are trainers, and I did not sit down with other trainers and talk about programming. I did not at all. Not, definitely not until years and years later.

That's what I'm saying. Like, the importance was taken off training and was placed on supplements or food, or of course, anabolic steroids to where it doesn't matter what your workouts are. But before that, it was all about the workouts. It was like, oh wow, that person, you know, how do you work your biceps? Oh, I squeeze harder at the top or I do this temple. Have you tried bands? Have you tried this dumbbell exercise? Have you tried this combination of movements? Have you tried hitting your body parts three days a week instead of two days a week,

have you tried a double split routine? It used to be like this all the time, and body builders and strength athletes would compare routines. This only continues to exist in the strength sports, strength sports where people really pay attention to exercise programming, but when it comes to changing your body,

because all the marketing has been focused on supplements, everybody forgot about the workout. So now if somebody's not building muscle, it's like, oh, well, you need to take more supplement protein, or you need more of this, or you need to eat more, whatever. Training. Yeah, the training is the, that's the center, because if you send the right signal, your body will want to change. In fact, if you send the right signal and you're will want to change. In fact, if you send the right signal

and you're trying to build muscle, you're gonna eat more food because guess what happens? You get hungrier. That's one of the first signs if you have a good workout. Well, I know it's still a part of the culture too because when I ask somebody,

and they're responses, you know, when I ask them, like, oh, what's your programming like? Oh, no, I train hard, you know, I train good. But I'm consistent. It's like, those are the, I'm consistent. I train hard. My program is good. Well, what the fuck does that mean? Like, I know. Like, how do you, I don't know, I train good. I'm consistent. I'm consistent, I train hard, my program is good.

Well, what the fuck does that mean? I know. I don't know, I can be more bored. Or the ones that think they're really doing things. Well, I mix it up, you know. I mix it up. I don't always do the same stuff. I know that it's important to do that.

Muscle confusion is something that people have adopted and at least know that. That's a good, advanced person, thinks that way. And well, this is also what we, how we knew that we had a real legitimate business that we could build was because there was such a need for this and that was how we're going to monetize was teaching programs, teaching how to program correctly for your adaptation, your goal. And nobody was really doing that.

It was, it would be much easier and faster for us to attach a bunch of supplements to all a bunch of random workouts. That would be easy. I mean, fun. We could just be spitting those out all day long and throwing supplements to act that are reoccurring revenue and the company would be far more profitable. We would have made more money a lot faster. It's way easier to sell that.

Way easier to sell that. But in the long term, you know, what's happening? What are we seeing now? People now are starting to figure it out because the ones that did follow our programs are saying, oh shit, wait a minute, this makes a matter. This makes a big difference, like how the programming makes a massive difference, and they're telling the friends and their friends

are starting to hear about it. And I really hope that the industry, I really hope that the industry changes where people start to, it's funny, I gotta mess at DM the other day, or somebody asked me, hey, what do you think of the beach body workouts? I'm like, for the most,

ones I've seen I think are not that good. Well, you know, what do you mean? They make me really sore and I sweat a lot, and I think I burn a lot of calories. And I said, yeah, that's it. There's no focus on the programming, the real program. It's literally arm exercise, leg exercise, you know, jumping movement, make your sweat, slap it all

together, let's put good music. There's no focus on the programming, but any strength coach, any athletic coach that's worth their salt will tell you that the programming is extremely fucking important. Well, guess what? It's extremely important for the average person, too. You might not want to be, you know, squatting the most weight, deadlifting the most weight, or being the fastest athlete. The same principle as apply. Same principle as apply. It's your, if you're fine. You just want to lose weight and you want to sculpt your body,

you just want to be fit, you want to look good, you can only work out two or three days a week in the gym. No problem. Programming matters a fuck ton, just like it does for high-level athletes. No different. Yeah, they just want to avoid it because it actually takes a lot of effort to like construct it all and really like do it the right way. It takes expertise, that's why. It takes expertise. Any idiot, any idiot who knows 10 exercises, which anybody could do with 10 minutes on the internet, can create a bullshit routine that'll make you sweat.

Wrap it up real nice, throw some marketing on it, make it sound cool, have a hot chick do it or some buff do do it, attach the supplement to it, boom, you got yourself a business in the fitness industry, unfortunately. Shreds. Next question is from Fitness by Juna. So in a lot of the maps programs, the full body workouts have only one or two leg movements

and the rest is upper body. So they seem upper body dominant. My lower body is much more of my priority. So how can I progress my lower body faster? Currently, all my trigger and focus sessions are already gluten ham oriented. This is so common with our program. Dude, how funny is it?

Did you guys ever have to talk about this with clients? With less. I'm working out my arms again, like hold on a second. There's a lot of muscles in your upper body. We're not just working out arms. There's muscles in your back. There's your chest, there's your shoulders, you have your biceps and your triceps.

Your lower body may have your glutes, hands and your quads, and maybe your calves you want to hit those two and some people don't. So that's why it looks like that. Because when we're working the upper body, we're having to target so many different muscles. Not to mention, you know, one set of squats compared to bicep curls, tricep push downs,

and lateral raises is completely different. I mean, the amount of output that you need, you know, just from a calorie perspective, energy perspective, from a central nervous system perspective, is 10 times more with a squat or a deadlift than it is for these isolation movements that do not take very much at all. So, and this is common with all of our maps programs.

We always get the simplicity thing and it goes right back to what we are just talking about is, you know, I mean, I could absolutely throw, you know, squats and lunges and leg curls and leg extensions and, you know, jumps box squats and just blast your legs if that's what you want. But if you want them to respond and you want them to grow, there's, there's science behind the way we've programmed and we've organized it. And if you think about it this way, if it's, so let's say you're doing, you know, one of our maps programs

and you're hitting your whole body on average three days a week, right? And let's say there's one to two movements for your lower body, we'll say your legs, all those days. So let's say you're doing one to two exercises, each exercise typically has three to four sets. So that's anywhere between three to six sets,

three days a week. It's a lot of volume, do the math, add up to sets. How many sets is that per week? Well, that's anywhere between nine to 18 sets, total for the week. That's a lot of work. That's not bad at all. And what Adam's saying, like,

you push more on the big compound movements of the lower body. A set of barbell squats is significantly more taxing on the body than a set of a bench press, even a bench press, which is a compound boom, or an overhead press. It's just that much more taxing. And so that's why it seems that way when you do the program. Well, and this person is asking for more legs and they're already, they're currently tailoring their trigger and focus sessions around gluten hams. You get in a lot of legwork. Yeah, I think you're okay. Yeah, I think you a lot of legwork. Yeah, I think you're okay.

Yeah, I think you're just fine. I mean, that's a lot of work if you're, if, because focus sessions are the other days in the week, so if you're running your foundational days, it's like five or six days a week. Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, that's plenty of volume and frequency. I think this is an example of,

and I'm definitely, and I'm not picking on whoever this is, this isn't me picking on you, because I was the same way here where, if I wasn't like sore, really sore from that training session, you know, then it wasn't good enough, or I could have done more. And more does not always result in more results. This is one of the things that we're constantly trying

to drill into people's head things that we're constantly trying to drill into people's head that you are always trying to do as little work as possible to elicit the most amount of change. It's not the more I do, the faster I get there. That is the biggest mistake I think most people make, especially more advanced lifters who love to work and love to go to the gym.

These are the ones that want more, want more, want more. And they're seeking that, that soreness out. You know, so I'm assuming that this is more of an advanced person who's lifting that is wanting more. And it's, you know, you get, that's one of the hardest things I deal with still today. Still today, I overreach all the time. Because I too like that, or it makes me feel like I did way

more work if I feel that soreness, and you did do way more work, but you did more work than you needed to do. That's right, and here's the other thing that you wanna consider, that we always, always, always encourage any of our program users. Just modify it. Yeah, the first time, go through it, just do it as it's laid out, especially if you're new,

but do it exactly as we laid out. Try it out, follow the program. The second time through, modify. Start listening to your body. Oh, that exercise didn't really work well for me. I want to try this one instead, or I'm not working out enough legs, throwing some more leg stuff.

You can totally do that, totally up to you. I would just, this person, like you said, follow it to a T, the second time around, if you didn't feel like it's enough, I would just slightly increase volume by adding one set. Add one set to all your lake sizes now for the week. You know, so now it's just plenty. Yeah, that's a lot. Now you just also an increase to another four to eight, you know, sets or more. We're talking about nine if you're doing nine to 12, you're getting, you know, significantly more just by adding one set to every lake size you do. What's the highest amount of volume that you guys have ever hit or frequency

and volume with body parts? You guys are when you were competing. Yeah, I was up in, I was up in the 30s. It's like 30 sets a week for a body part. Yeah, yeah, I was up there. And I don't, that was, that was what I tracked, too. I've maybe, I've may have, have even peaked over that. And we're talking, I'm coming back to the gym twice.

So I was running kind of a split routine. If you look at my entire journey from when I first started documenting it on Instagram when I was, it got fat when I was 20% body fat, and then I started to go all the way down, leaned out first. When I was leaning out, I was, and this was when you and I were talking way back then,

I was following a structure like maps and a bulk. Even if this was even before we had got together, and I was starting to start my fat loss journey, but I was only training in the gym, you know, three days a week. I was training a full body type of routine. The volume was very moderate to low for what I know I was capable or have done in the past. And then I scaled to like a map systetic, and then I scaled to like a map split.

And then I even went beyond probably a map split, which were some of the days I was coming in and doing a double split where I come back. And I would, if there was areas that I was trying to develop after a show, I would come back and I would be touching up on those body parts to increase the volume. And when I was doing that, I was probably picking out at 30 sets, maybe even a little bit more of specific body parts that I was trying to move up. But again, the important part that people didn't understand

is that was a two year process of scaling volume up. A very committed focus work. Oh, I didn't, I was dialed. I didn't miss, I didn't miss a't miss I didn't miss a day in the gym I didn't miss tracking and scaling up. I mean it was I was very dialed in to move from the the you know I know I was men's physique so you could tease all you want about men's bikini, but Show me a motherfucker who doesn't care anything about that world was isn't a bodybuilder whatsoever It dips into the amateur level and moves their way

all the way up to the professional level. Oh, you got a jacked. You have to be dialed in. You've got to be dialed in and consistent. And I was extremely dialed in and consistent. But I was also very smart about how I progress myself. I most certainly did not jump in to a map split or even bigger type of routine, right?

What do you think would have happened had to do that? Plads out hard. This is an important thing to communicate because people need to know that it's not that you're doing it the way you did it because it's less work and it's easier. That's a plus.

You know, you're a hard working person. If you thought it would have got you there faster, you would have done it, but you didn't because why? Because I know, it's not even a question what I think I know that I would have, it would have done it, but you didn't because why? Because I know, it's not even a question, what I think I know that I would have, it would have slowed my progress down. It would have, I, because I'd done this in the past as a kid

where balls to the wall and balls to the wall, sure for the first month or two gets you pretty far. Especially if you weren't doing anything before and then now you throw everything in the kitchen sink at your body like absolutely the body will respond. It's super resilient. It will lose some body fat, it will build some muscle, it will respond to you.

But then it will adapt. And what I don't want to happen, if I know I've got a long road ahead of me, I don't want it to adapt when I haven't completed building this ultimate physique I'm trying to build. And I knew that I was competing, if that end, whatever, if I was just a normal trainer and didn't, I wasn't being judged

and getting up on stage and presenting myself, maybe I, maybe I wouldn't care so much about being very smart about how I slowly progressed my volume, but I was. I was getting on stage, and I was being, I'm priving to present this, and I had a time it. So I had to be very smart and mathematical about my approach, and I knew that if I came out and gave everything out, I would have nowhere to go. I would have any variables to play with. I was just talking about that with Jessica this morning. We were going for a walk and it's funny

because if I take this analogy and I use it on something else, sometimes people will, if I make it analogy with something different, but similar, I think sometimes people get it. It's, for example, let's say you're all of a sudden like, hey, I want to start making money, invest, and investments. So you just take a bunch of money and you just throw it all at a bunch of, and not know what you're doing. Just, I'm just going to throw it all at everything. The odds that you're going to lose everything are quite high. You want to

sit down, you want to learn, you want to take your time, slowly build up your assets, whatever. And that's a successful strat and be consistent, right? It's very similar with fitness. And it's not part of it's because you don't know what you're doing, but the other part of it is your body just doesn't respond that way. You go in there and throw everything at it all at once. You're not going to get there any faster. In fact, it'll get there slower. You'll actually reduce your body's ability. Well, this is why too. And this is a good point. I'm glad we went this way because we haven't really talked about this that often.

This is when we created the RGB bundle, when we only had the three main programs, the ideas that you go through all of them in the order. You start with red, you then progress to green, you then progress to black, the next natural progression from that will be split. I mean, that's, if you were to slowly increase volume over time and that's a year's worth of programming and training

and if you follow that and if you were dialed and you don't miss and you're consistent and you eat correctly and by correctly, I mean, you don't go off the radar as even if you're not perfect dialing, you still should see a very nice. You should see consistent growth and change and strength gains and building muscle over the course of the year.

And it's designed that way. And the hard part is like when we get questions like this, where you want more, you want more because you think, because you can do more, because you can do more, doesn't it? Especially if you're a hard working person. Like I know who this person is and she's. Oh, you do. I do. And she actually interviewed me for, I think she was going to start a podcast and she's

a highly, highly trained pianist, performs at a very, very high level. So you know she has that work ethic. So she's probably thinking, well, I'll just work harder to make it happen faster. And that's not always the case. In this case, working harder for you is going to be being smarter about it and trying to combat your natural tendency to want to just more. These to amount of work to elicit the most amount of change. That is your goal.

Your goal is to not, unless you're an athlete, if you're an athlete, you're trying to do more because you want to be able to sustain more because in a game, you still got to be smart about it. Yeah, I'm not saying you don't be smart about it, but I mean, there's a major, there's a total different approach to programming and training when training to be resilient

as an athlete, then when you're trying to build and sculpt a body. It's totally different. And so the mindset has to be different. And so if you have a lot of discipline, if you have an athletic background, this is challenging because when I would go into the gym, you have an athletic background, this is challenging, because when I would go into the gym, I have an athletic background, I am very disciplined. I do too wanna do more, and many times I overreach,

so I was constantly having to have this conversation with myself, you know, pull back. I didn't need to do that, that was too much. Less, sometimes, less is more sometimes. And that isn't for everybody, so who I'm talking to, I have to be careful the message. If I'm talking to the lazy guy who never wants to get to the gym and struggles.

Yeah, and struggles with finishing a set and quits halfway through their workout, well I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to the person who likes to work out, likes to push, sets goals, likes to, you know, and wants to put more effort towards everything. Those are the ones that have to be careful. Those are the ones that need to be constantly reminding

themselves that less is more or the least amount of work to elicit the most amount of change. Next question is from Bayer. You guys always talk about how squatting and deadlifting are skills that need to be practiced and mastered. Can you talk about the cues and techniques required to perform a proper bench press? Oh, man.

You know, it took me a long time to realize that the bench press was extremely technical. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's definitely a skill to learn and acquire. And that took me a while, too. And I mean, for me, it was really like shadowing some power lifters and like watching their technique and seeing like how they really like emphasize that retraction of the shoulders. And then also utilizing the ground forces with their legs

and getting their entire body involved in that lift was like, okay, this is a totally different thing. So what you're referring to, and this is for the listeners who don't understand, when you, so power lifters are the best bench pressers in the world. And that's because that's their sport. It's part of one of the lifts that they have to do. So if you want to learn how to bench press really well, or at least get a lot of weight

up with your bench press, then you want to watch power lifters. And something that they used to communicate all the time that took me so long, I dismissed it. I used to dismiss it. And then it took me so long to understand was it. I used to dismiss it. And then it took me so long to understand was, they would say, use leg drive. I would think to myself like leg drive. This is an upper body exercise.

What the fuck am I doing with my legs? I'm pressing with my arms. My legs aren't doing anything. Then I was working out with a power lifter buddy of mine. And he kept telling me you need to use leg drive. And I'm like, explain that to me. It doesn't make any sense to me. He says, okay. He says, take your right hand

and he says, now I want you to keep your entire body relaxed including your face and now squeeze your right hand as hard as you can but keep everything else relaxed. And then he says, now try that again but this time tense up your whole body along with it. He goes, which squeeze felt stronger? I'm like, well, obviously, so when I squeezed up my whole body, in fact,

when you're tensing up something, you'll notice that you'll naturally tense up your whole body to amp up your CNS. This is the principle or the law, whatever, of a radiation. And this is what, I mean, it's a hard concept to kind of grasp right away. It's really a feel thing. And it's just like Sal is describing, like you're just so much stronger once you can incorporate more surrounding muscles to get involved into any sort of lift or movement. And that takes discipline, that takes technique and skill to learn that process

and not just like, and I think that there's a big drop off, or like it's a hard thing to kind of adopt right away for somebody who's done a lot of isolated work and his work on body building and has tried to kind of work and sculpt their body to be able to generate a massive amount of force and direct it properly.

Yeah, so here's a few cues for the bench press. Just a few basic ones. Keep your feet on the floor first, because that's what we're talking about, leg drive. When you lay back, your lower back is not going to be on the bench. It's going to have a natural curve. You want to maintain that or even exaggerate that. I remember when I first became a trainer, some other trainers would tell me that you don't want that.

No, no, keep the back flat. It protects their back. Worst possible thing you could do because when you flatten your lower back, the shoulders roll forward, you put your shoulders in a position that's not beneficial and actually can increase your risk of injury.

So you want this nice arch and your lower back, but your butt stays on the bench. So it's not lifting your butt off the bench. It's just your lower back arch. And you're still bracing. So it's not lifting your butt off the bench. It's just your lower back arch and you're still bracing. So it's not like your abs aren't involved, you know. You still can brace and utilize, you know, your abs and your core strength in the lift as well. And you're not really thinking about arching your back. You're thinking more about retracting your shoulders. It'll naturally arch your back. Now power lifters do try to arch their back. Yeah, because they're trying to create

the most leverages possible. But as a normal person who's just trying to bench press and get gains on their bench press and see their chest grow, like, if the thing that I think I have put the most emphasis on, in fact, it's a staple thing that I do before I bench always, it's what I teach others to do is I love like band pull-aparts or all. Or if I'm like at the gym and I don't have a primer for this. Band pull-aparts or doing just the barbell row a bunch of times, I'll do it like 20 times

and really get that retracting, they'll wake up all those muscles that are responsible for holding your shoulders back because if we are, you gotta think of the body, right? So most people are already naturally in this forward shoulder rounded position because everything that we do. So then if you get into a bench press that a lot of things are going on, Sal, and everyone's telling you drive, you drive your legs, arch your back, you know, pull the shoulder, you have a lot of stuff you're trying to communicate to, and you have your natural position your body wants to go to, and you're also pressing. It's really hard to fight that, to keep the shoulders peeled back. So in my opinion, this is one of the biggest things that help people out is to teach them to retract and really, really retract.

And so priming that before going into a bench press, I think is essential. Well, I mean, it's so crucial because like, retracting that's part of the process of really stabilizing the shoulder joint. And stabilizing the shoulder joint is essential for you to be able to generate more force to be able to apply towards the lift. And if there's any point in that lift where there's a shakiness, there's left to right, there's things that your shoulder aren't really like properly like bracing and stabilizing, your body's not going gonna be able to exert

as much force. I remember the first time I learned, had a bench press through my personal training certification. I had bench press before this, but then I took the certification, and they actually taught us that the elbows need to be out at 90 degrees and don't bend them beyond 90 degrees. So elbows flare it out, elbows flare it out,

and don't go all the way down. Oh God. Worse, old school. Worse advice of all time. And then with your feet up on the bench. Yeah, no, they didn't say that. Thank God. Never that good.

They never even put their feet on the bench. Yeah, because it protect, because we gotta keep our backs flat. Exactly, terrible, terrible advice. You want the elbows to tuck a little bit. So you don't want them in at your sides completely, but you don't want them flared out either. There's a slight tuck and you're staying very, very tight

with your body. You're bracing your core, you're driving into the floor with your legs, but your butt doesn't come off the bench. You're tightening your lats, squeezing your shoulder blades down and back, and you're coming down, you're coming right below nipple line, and then pressing up. And that tension alone, that position alone, if you master that, should add some weight

to your bench press if you're not already doing those things. Literally, you can increase your bench press by five to 10 pounds just by doing proper time. And then just little tweaks from there. You know, you grip the bar a certain way where you're kind of pulling outward a little bit. I've found this helped quite a bit. There's just little, we did it.

We did a great tutorial video with little we do. We did a great tutorial video with Ben Pollock. He did a great. This is one of his longer ones that he did and he did his whole bench press set up And I think yeah, he touched it. But you put that in the notes. Yeah, he does a good job. Yeah, he does a really good job on that for someone that's looking for more detailed information I know a lot of the trolls on YouTube. They want just to quick show me the exercise. Don't teach me But this is more of a tutorial. So, the someone who's seeking this information will appreciate it. But for me, if you've never primed your back correctly

before doing a bench press, I'll show you a change in difference right then and there. Like, right away, if you have not done that, do 15 to 20 band pull-aparts, grab the barbell, the 45 pound barbell since you're right there at the bench anyways, row it at like 15 to 20 times, maybe do that two sets of that,

and then get under and get into your bench press and tell me how you feel. And I promise you, you will feel a difference because I think the most common thing is the roll, it's hard not to roll the shoulder, you're pushing. You just wanna get the bar off of you? Yeah, the body's natural thing when you were hard to push the body forward is the shoulders. You're pushing. You just want to get the bar off you. Yeah, the body's natural thing when you were hard to push the body forward is the shoulders

to also come forward and to exaggerate or add to that. Most people all suffer from upper cross syndrome where they have the forward shoulders anyway. So they're already in a bad position. Yeah, so it takes, or it's taken me personally and anyone I've ever trained, oh, it takes a lot of mental focus to really be able to lock those shoulders back

To retract and depress them down and hold them in that fixed position while you're pressing and when you learn to do that I think that you'll generate a lot more power. It should feel smoother So try that if you have not done that and again that also gives you a little taste of what maps prime is all about I mean this is what oh dude if you do maps prime and you prime properly before you bench I'm not done that. And again, that also gives you a little taste of what Maps Prime is all about. I mean, this is what- Dude, if you do Maps Prime and you prime properly before you bench, you can expect to see a difference in media.

It's already gonna be a performance increase. Well, this is what I mean, we talk about it as far as the thing that we were probably, all the programs we did, this one is the one that we were the most proud of because this is what we did. We went around and we thought about, okay, what are the most common issues that clients have struggled with or that we've dealt with? What about, okay, what are the most common issues that clients have struggled with

or that we've dealt with? What are the moves that are most complimentary to the movement or exercises they're going to do? Now let's teach them how to prime. Benefits all pursuits, even if it's therapeutic or if you're trying to increase your performance like all these pursuits, you need to learn this process.

And one of the things I love about our forum so much is there's so many discussions that go on in that forum about stuff like this. Like you can literally go on the forum, this power lifter's there, and you could talk about advanced techniques on how to improve your bench press. And you know, we're talking about basic setup, right?

Skills and techniques. And I think you should master practicing the bench press. Here's the lifts I think you should practice. Squats, dead lifts, overhead presses. And I would even throw bench presses, are there? I think those are good exercises. Bench press, absolutely. Just to practice.

Absolutely, that goes. I mean, I think the bench press is, you know, you could argue overhead press or bench press is the squat of the upper body. Right. You have a lot of moving parts going on and a lot of different areas that you've got to be kind of thinking about. That's what makes the squat so difficult. When you drop into a squat, it's like the feet, your ankles, your knee travel, your hips, like your core being tight, there's so much to think about. It's such a complicated complicated move that it does it does require a lot of practice to execute well

The bench press isn't far off. I mean for the upper body people don't think that though I know people think oh bench press just push the bar up. No, no It's a technical movement took me a long time to realize that and once I realized that my bench press No, it took me well over a decade before I became and I don't think I'm good I think for a six foot three guy with long ass arms, I think I'm a pretty good bench presser considering, but it took me a long time. I mean, that was one of my week I had as a kid,

I've told the story before we bench press. This was one of the first moves that I had to practice and get better. I couldn't even do the bar, couldn't even do 45 pounds. One friend would have to push my shoulders down with the other friend balanced and kept the bar, couldn't even do 45 pounds. One friend would have to push my shoulders down where the other friend balanced and kept the bar even. I also had one chest was much bigger than the other. And it wasn't big, one was much flatter than the other, right?

One was a concave, and then it was flat. You had that all-blown chest. I was all fucked up, man. I was definitely fucked up and it took me a very long time to balance that out, to learn how to bench press. And I wouldn't say until the last five years, maybe a little more than that, to have I gotten really good at the movement.

Next question is from Blackburn 71-71. If you were a professional wrestler, what would your name be and what mix would you use? It's a just in question. I didn't pick this important. I don't even see it. Yes, I knew that. I'd do that.

We should pick names for each other. Yeah. No, I knew that. I snuck that one in on your face. We should pick names for each other. Yeah. No, I'll start because I throw it at dude. I was thinking about this and I'm like, how funny an awesome would be to be like, the heavy meddler, he medals. Oh my God. You know, he comes out and I'm like,

I was thinking like the cheese crusher. And there comes the cheese crusher. The cheese crusher. That there comes the cheese crusher. That's his move. Yeah. But his name is Glutius Maximus. Glutius Maximus and he's got like a crown. He's got a little gas.

And it came out. He comes out. Sal would be like a pastor. He's already got that nickname. So the professor, you would come out with like a lab coat and A ruler that would be like your secret. You'd have that that one sport coat or it has the patches on the elbows the tween one Adam here's today's lesson ask kicking Adam would wear this Adam would wear like the tight trunks and he'd be sexy Sanchez Do you guys remember the wrestler?

Keep you the guy with the mirror The guy with the mirror that came out and was all like yeah, mr. Perfume super perfect No, no, you're he's more Yeah, did you ravishing rig rude bro? Do you remember what he would do at the end of his? Sets or whatever he would do some of his hair when you of his hair when he would wrestle and then he would ask a lucky lady from the audience to come up and then he'd like kiss him or something like that. Yeah, right? Wasn't that what he would do?

He would fix his hair and he'd kiss him. He did something like that. That was fun. That was hilarious. So what'd you say, would you sexy Sanchez? Sexy Sanchez. And the professor. Yeah.

And then the cheeseinator would call, he's the gluteus maximus. The gluteus maximus. Gluteus maximus. And your special move is the cheese andator No, he's a he's the gluteus Maximus the gluteus Maximus gluteus Maximus and your special and your special move is the cheese Crusher cheese crusher. What's my special move? Your special move is the the lesson Today just sell just gave the lesson oh shit. He's about to drop the lesson Who are you from the high ropes? Who are your favorite wrestlers of the back of the world? Ultimate where of course ultimate where besides ultimate war I was the ultimate where I was for Halloween Who are you? Who are your favorite wrestlers? Ultimate warrior. Of course, ultimate warrior. Besides ultimate warrior.

I was the ultimate warrior. I was for Halloween. I'm like, I like Jake the snake. I like the, fuck. I like Bret Hart. I like the grave, not grave digger. That's a monster. That's a monster.

You're mixing up your drink. Undertaker. Undertaker, that's right. I like the Undertaker too. You guys are badass. You guys remember Brutus the Barbara beef cake I loved it Brutus. Yeah, yeah, he would after he'd beat someone he'd fuck up their hair. Yeah He like beat him. Oh, imagine if you did that in real life like after you beat someone. I would never lose

You know like you know the best shit talker was Rick Flair though like hey, you know what we're gonna do You know we're gonna do? Yeah, there's a really good documentary on him. You know how I just did this recently in our all staff meeting where I gave everybody the name of the warriors. We should do it for WWE. I'm putting that on you.

Oh shit, all right, I got you. You should know your wrestlers well enough. I think you should be able to name everybody. So last meeting, I brought all the, okay, I'll bring that in. Yeah, I brought all the, the warriors players who that in. Yeah, I brought all the the warriors players Who everybody remember the British bulldog that guy was jacked he was one of the bufftists wrestlers that other it was sergeant slaughtering it. He made his way over to GI Joe who were you did?

Yeah, who are the guys that the the weird twins that would lick each other's heads bushwhackers Oh Bushwhackers. Yeah, the Bushwackers. Yes, and they were right exactly I know they were like moshing with there. I might have watched more W. W. F. I don't think so. I watched I mean yeah, two by four big boss man big boss man was great. Yeah, he was really good I watched it up until okay, who's this X-Pock and all those guys you know with the WCW? I was in 80s and early 90s. I watched it up until then. Who's this guy?

Remember this guy? He come out. Cocoa beware. Oh yeah. The junkyard. Gold dust. Junkyard dog. Junkyard dog was out.

Yokosuna. The earthquake. Oh man, I got you guys on this man. I was a huge fan back then. I was the only one I was a kid. Did you guys ever go? I went. Like I went to them. No.

That was actually fun. That's when I, you know, they're crazy. Do we win one time a time? Oh, yeah. He farted and cleared the entire balcony. He killed the whole arena. He literally destroyed it. Well, he went as a dalt, right?

So that was, I hadn't been since I was a kid. That was a different experience. Couple of two years ago, I think I was when I surprised you guys with that, right? That was, yeah. I hadn't been since I was a kid. That was a different experience. Couple of two years ago, I think I was when I surprised you guys with that, right? That was, I hadn't been since I was a kid. What I was so fascinated in when we all went was the production of it business-wise. I mean, what I did- What's the marketing machine?

Well, what I didn't know they did, which is fucking duh, brilliant, and how brilliant for Pepsi and KFC and all that. They have their own commercials that nobody else sees. Yeah. You're watched normal TV. You don't see these commercials. It's specifically made for the audience there on their big screen. Yeah.

You got 30,000 fans that see KFC commercial. But of course, in the KFC commercial, it's all the wrestlers. So wrestlers, I'm sure, got paid to do these commercials. But what a smart way to market. It's own little ecosystem. It was like, it was like a six hour production and it was like half of it was commercials. Do you guys remember,

I think it was the late 80s or early 90s when John Stossel, remember he used to do those investigative reports where he'd try and reveal people like, oh, you're fake or whatever. He went behind the scenes at Pro Wrestling and he did a whole show on is Pro Wrestling fake what people don't know is today people know it's not real I mean that the hits on the throws and stuff are real, but it's not they're not really fighting each other

Yeah, but back then it was a secret like it was oh like you didn't realize you didn't know that oh bro back then How could you not know back then it was like you know people knew but but they never admitted it They never talked about it like now people talk about it, but it was this big like no no Yeah, so he goes backstage and I don't remember who it was diamond Dallas page I think it was oh yeah, and he interviews him he goes so it was wrestling fake You know we think wrestling's fake is it fake and and diamond Dallas page I think that's what was turned around and he he's like, is this fake and he fucking blast him? Like hit some inside of the head.

Katoosh. And then he gets up and he hits him again. Is this fake? Katoosh. And he had a huge loss. Did you ever saw that? No. Oh, yeah.

Dude, John Stahls also got blasted by this six foot eight freaking monster. Yeah. Oh, they slapped the shit out. I sure that's, I mean, that's what he was like. Is this fake? Yeah. And they jump off like, dude, like three story high cages and do crazy shit.

It's somebody dangerous as hell. Somebody who loves this would love, so I read Bret Hart's biography, and that thing is, I mean, it's like a Bible for wrestling. It was, oh yeah, the whole heart family. I think it's actually the biggest book that I've ever read. You know there's a whole, oh yeah, no,

it goes into the history of it, and then the heart family is actually, in, I remember. Yeah. You know there's a whole... Oh, yeah, no, it goes into the history of it. And then the heart family is actually the beginning of all of it. I didn't know that until I read the biography. Like, his dad and it's been... You guys should listen to Billy Corgan on Joe Rogan. He's actually an investor in that whole business. Oh, yeah. He's big into it.

There it is. When he gets blasted, look, watch this. He's like, is this fake? Watch it. What is this fake? Boom! Oh, oh, oh, oh, shit. He runs away. Ah!

Yeah, no, it's, there's a whole culture around the sport. It's amazing. You have to go watch. You have to say certain things. You have to be a particular way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. Have you heard the story of Hulk Hogan and how he got into wrestling or whatever?

So he tried to get into it over and over again. And he went to some Japanese pro wrestling school because I guess they have a long history of pro wrestling. I forgot how big he is because he just looks kind of like he's a regular. I mean, he's a big guy, but like I didn't know how tall. Like he's like, what, like, six, eight. He's a giant, seven, six, eight.

He's a giant, but he looks small when he'd be like next to Andre the giant. Well, that's a giant. But he looks small when he'd be like next to the giant. Well, that's what I mean. He looks small compared to the other guys. So he went in, because Japan has a long history of pro wrestling also. So he went to this Japanese school and he's like, I wanna learn, I wanna learn, I wanna learn or whatever.

And I guess the instructor finally's like, fine, come on in and to teach him a lesson, he broke his ankle, he broke Hulk Hulk and his ankle, got him an ankle lock and broken. Hulk came back to the school with a his ankle. Got him an ankle lock. And broken. Hulk came back to the school with a broken ankle, continues to want to train, and then he gained his respect,

and then he came on board, and then of course he became most popular wrestler of all time. That's pretty cool. Hostar. There you go. And with that, That's right, brother.

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