Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 919: StrongLifts 5X5 Review, How Quickly the Metabolism Adapts to Cardio, the Ideal Order to Go Through MAPS Programs & MORE

Episode Date: December 8, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the value of StrongLifts 5x5, the order to go through MAPS programs for someone trying to lose fat and build muscle, how quickly someone’s metabolism will adapt to cardio and the value of shoulder/posture corrective braces. New Product Alert!! Organifi Chocolate GOLD Juice! (4:28) Merry “Flocking” Christmas from Mind Pump. (5:25) 25 Cool Gadgets That Make Great Gifts This Holiday Season (Under $60). (6:53) Use the Joovv Light as a Treatment for Hair Loss??!! (18:21) PETA Jumping the Shark, Rudolph Controversy, Lyrics in Songs & MORE. The Fragmented/Soft World we Now Live In. (23:10) The States Trying to Pass Laws Protecting Drivers Who Hit Protesters. (37:03) Lifting Weights Has a Surprising Effect on Mental Health. Will Resistance Training be the Next Revolutionary Trend? (39:47) #Quah question #1 – What are your thoughts on StrongLifts 5x5? (56:21) #Quah question #2 - What order would you suggest going through MAPS programs for someone trying to lose fat and build muscle? (1:07:43) #Quah question #3 - How quickly will someone’s metabolism will adapt to cardio? (1:17:29) #Quah question #4 – What are your thoughts on the shoulder/posture corrective braces? (1:23:50) People Mentioned: Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Products Mentioned: December Promotion: Enroll in Any MAPS Program – 1 Year of Forum Access for FREE! Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Joovv **MAPS Prime w/purchase of $500 or more and free shipping** 25 Cool Gadgets That Make Great Gifts This Holiday Season (Under $60) Low-Level Laser (Light) Therapy (LLLT) for Treatment of Hair Loss PETA wants to change ‘anti-animal’ sayings, but the Internet thinks they’re feeding a fed horse Holiday Classic Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Accused of Being 'Seriously Problematic' 'Baby, It's Cold Outside,' Seen As Sexist, Frozen Out By Radio Stations Chris D'Elia: Man on Fire | Netflix The States Trying to Pass Laws Protecting Drivers Who Hit Protesters Lifting Weights Has a Surprising Effect on Mental Health Different types of physical activity offer varying protection against heart disease The StrongLifts 5×5 Workout: Why There Are Better Ways to Build Muscle StrongFirst: The School of Strength Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, ob-with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mindpop, we do our intro for 53 minutes, this is where we talk about whatever. We start out by talking about Organifies brand new gold chocolate juice. Uh-oh. That's right, it's chocolate flavored

or a gold juice. This is really good to take at night. It helps you sleep better and relax your body. Cocoa by the fire. We like chocolate and gold. We are sponsored by our GANIFI if you go to organifi.com-mindpump and enter the code MindPump,

you'll get a fat 20% off. Then we talk about Adam's inexpensive Christmas gift recommendations. Hope to you guys. He goes down the list of gadgets and gizmos. Pretty interesting gadgets. Then we talk about red light therapy and hair growth. Yes, photo bio modulation. Hope I said that right.

There's hope Adam. Actually helps with hair growth also helps with muscle recovery and overall health. Adam actually noticed some benefits on his head. Now our favorite company that provides this kind of product is Juve. It is the highest quality that we found that you can find online. They're coming out with a new handheld version, a small version that you can shine on any part of your body. If we are sponsored by Juve,

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Offended by everything. What have you done? Yeah, ruining their message. Then we talk about Rudolph, the Red Nose Rain Deer, being under fire. Will you social justice warriors? Fucking relax. Can you, like, what can you find next?

Like, what else is there? God. Then we talked about the connection between depression, anxiety, and lifting weights in particular, lifting weights in particular. Then we get into the fitness segment of this episode where we answer questions. It only took 53 minutes.

53 minutes. The first question was, what is our opinion on the strong lifts, five by five workout programs? This is one of the more popular free programs that people talk about online. We have a very strong opinion about this program. Find out in that part of this episode. The next question is, what order do we suggest people do the maps programs? We have a lot of maps programs. So if somebody wants to go through all of them because they're really smart,

what is the best order? So we kind of break down. If you're interested in doing the math programs, you want to do them the right order for best results, you might want to listen to that part of this episode. The next question is, we've talked about how the metabolism tends to adapt to cardio. In other words, if you do lots and lots of cardio, the metabolism can actually slow down and become more efficient.

Not good if you want to maintain a lean body. The question was, how much cardio will actually trigger that type of an adaptation? And finally, what is our opinion on those shoulder posture corrective braces? They look kind of funny. They go around the shoulders, almost looks like a brox that if it doesn't support your boobs,

it's supposed to support your shoulder girdle. It's the arm. Yeah, do they help or do they hurt? Also, all month long, all month long in the month of December, you can enroll in any maps fitness program. Any of them, either the bodybuilding ones, like maps aesthetic or maps split, the metabolism boosting muscle building ones,

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Dr. Ruscio, Dr. Justin Brink, and then of course, most special of all, you have people like Adam, Justin, myself, and Doug in there answering questions. Hey, thanks. It's free for a year if you're enrolling any maps program this month only, if you want to find out which maps program is best for you, go to mapsfitinistproducts.com. What are you looking at, Adam? It's the new organified drink.

Oh, you have a new flavor. Gold chocolate? Yeah, yeah, it's a gold chocolate. I think it just came out. Jacky sent it over to me. Chocolatey gold. It looks, I'm trying to see if it's the same, looks like it's the same formula as the gold juice. It's got the turmeric, the rayishi, the...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't you tell? Okay, yeah. So it is the same, but it's a different flavor. So this is their winner. It's a new winner flavor that they're doing, and it's just a chocolate flavor. They need to send us samples. It looks like a picture of like a hot cocoa.

It makes me want to sit by the... It's a tea, but it has like a chocolate aftertaste. Yeah, well tea, chocolate, chocolate. Immediately. I like the, how can they beat the regular gold juice? I know, that's the one I'm interested in. But this looks like, this looks like a hot cocoa look, you know? Makes me want to sit by the Christmas tree and sit hot cocoa.

Easy for you to say. Yeah. Did you get it? How cool. Or not. What the, did you get your tree yet? Yeah. Did I not show it to you guys? You did? You got it? Yeah, I got. I'm not sure. Did you get your tree yet? Yeah. Did I not show it to you guys?

You did? You got it? Yeah, I got my cancer tree. You just got it. What do you mean cancer? Oh, you flocked it? Yeah, I flocked it. Why? Oh, you flocked.

We like it flocked. Did you buy it flocked or did you flock it yourself? No, I bought it. You got to flocked the fuck out of it. I'm not asking for cancer. You know what I'm saying? Damn. Yeah, so I had somebody else do it. That's all bunch of chemical stuff, isn't it?

Yeah, you're the one that says that. Yeah, that is best. Yeah, a little as best as well. Yeah, I don't think it's actually that. Hey, health, if you, you know, the other reason why I don't like flocking trees or flock trees is because it just highlights the fakeness of all things. Not only do you have a Christmas tree in your house,

but it has snow on it. It has to have snow in it. Let's say it just cracks me up. I don't, you know, it just gives it a, well, we also have like, so our house is, it's up, like it's decorated now, right? You have to put a gate around it for the dogs. No, they're good.

They don't pee on it or anything. No, no, no. I was worried mine was. He didn't, he hasn't yet. He only shit the pee's on your shoe. He does. While you're wearing your shoes on my shoe. When they were puppies, they used to knock the the balls down And so I and Bentley ate a candy cane one year

So one year we did candy canes all over the tree. That was the last time we did that Cuz he's a one-cane. Yeah, well, yeah, cuz he got it off the eight the whole plastic air They're shit and plastic like next next week. Yeah, so we definitely didn't do candy canes again So you want to sit by that tree and sit park like my gold Organify cocoa your chocolate gold some kind of weird like Santa robe. I'm just picturing it Hey, I got something for the audience up because I came across this article and I haven't shared it with you guys yet And I just want to hook the audience up with this because one of the one of the hardest things or least for me You know being introduced into Katrina's family, where everybody loves each other,

we all get like Christmas presents for everybody, and I'm just not used to that. I'm not used to like, we have to buy 30 gifts for everybody. Yeah, and it's, you buy that many gifts? We used to do that. It's pretty close. That's a pain. Because the way they do it is all the adults,

exchange names, and then everybody buys for any kids. And everybody's got fucking kids. So when you look at my sister, side of the family, her family's kids that are in there, I mean, we're close to probably 20, 30 kids somewhere in there, somewhere in there. So, you know, and I think it's such a waste of money just to buy shit, to buy shit.

So I'm always looking for like cool gadgets. And this article came up in this weekly penny called 25 must-have gadgets that are selling out this holiday. And why I like them is because they're all really cool gifts and they're all probably very reasonably priced. So the number one is this fixed gift. It's FIXD. It's a little chip that goes into your car.

Any car that's 1996 or above. And basically it's like a real- that goes into your car. Any car that's 1996 or above, and basically it's like a real-time diagnostic of your car. So if anything goes wrong, you know how the maintenance like comes on, you take it in and they're like, oh, it's the Flex Capacitor and they charge you $1,000. Like no more of that bullshit. Like it tells you exactly if it's a fuse or something gone down or what with that.

So it's- So it's a chip. The only problem with this is I don't even know that we had a chip. You already plugged that in. Well, no, it comes with that. It'll tell you your model, whatever model you have, it'll tell you where you insert it into that car and every car.

So as long as you have a 1996 model or above, it works for every vehicle. And oh, real quick, dad joke, my dad got me really good one here. He got, he has an Acura and he goes, hey, I put a chip in my car. Like what? And he opens up the hood. And he had as a car. He what? And he opens up the hood. And he had a Doredo. Oh, good.

Wow. Just reminded me. Yeah. So it was an epic. Anyway, so that's number one. I'm like, you thought of that and actually put a chip in there. You do. So that's a lot of effort.

He really, it's a lot of effort. A lot of effort for a dad joke. I remember it. He did. Yeah, it's memorable. Number two is a photo stick. So this is just makes backing up photos really quick. It's like a USB port and automatically,

as soon as you plug it into a computer, it finds. So instead of having to open a folder and do all of a shit, automatically finds where the photo starts and gets it automatically. Well, you can steal people's photos so easy with that. Right. If they leave the room, boom, boom. This one was cool. Well, you can steal people's photos so easy with that. Right. They leave the room, poop, poop. Yeah. This one was cool. Oh, yeah, so.

Give the gift to free TV, cut the cord, save a bundle. There's this company called SkyLink antenna. You hook it in, the antenna is simple to install and you automatically, if you can receive up to 100 high definition stations for free. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. This sounds, this sounds a little sketchy. He does it. Oh, that's sick.

This is like when you like cut a cable line, you just sort of like splice it and like put it in the sky. It's called SkyLink. So it's lit, you plug it in, you get free TV. Yes. Hot up to 100 high-deaf channels. There's gotta be some bolster to that.

I got too many big. Why? We've just got, we've just advanced in tennis. We had in tennis when we were kids. It's just a better antenna that's picking, receiving, picking up these. Yeah, well, where are these channels? What are you gonna watch?

I think that's what you're gonna see. That's what you're gonna see. What does it, like huge like? No, not at all. Like a spaceship on your wrist. Doug, Doug who pulled up, it's called SkyLink in Tena and it gets up to 100 high-deaf channel, depending on your area,

but I'm assuming some people get 100, some people get, no, it's not that thing. That's the thing I was gonna say. It looks like a dad's it right there. That's it, dude. Oh, that's not bad. No. That's weird.

I wanna look up the reviews on that thing. It's cheap. I know, I'll give some, I'm, I'm, I'm, It's like 20 bucks. I'm looking everybody up right now. These are all like under $100, you know? So these are great gifts for like the, I feel like the, the TV channels you'll get

will be like Iraqi news Today's nationally is like all infomercials. Yeah, yeah, next the next one is number four is the visor Vi zr amazing heads up display makes GPS fun It's just like GPS like a clear thing that goes on your your dash It's a cool gadget if you have a family member that's into like gadgets, this is a cool thing. So it shows the map on your, it like it has like a virtual look to it.

I'll thank you, Doug. Oh, what? Yeah. That's, I could see that would work for me because I get lost even with GPS. It's like augmented reality. Whoa, could you put spaceships on it? Stupid.

All right, go ahead, next one. That's very cool. Number five, key smart, the ultimate key chain. These have been around forever. It's just like, it has the ultimate, like all the little, it's like a Swiss army knife of like gadgets for like USB ports, plugs in, all these different things called key smart.

Cool. That's like another gadget thing if you got a family member. Now this was interesting, it's called Dadao, D-O-D-O-W, and it's an awesome sleep thing. Now this sends out soothing blue light that gently pulses, hoping easier brain into sleep mode. So it pulses, it's like blue light therapy in your bedroom.

I thought blue light was bad for you guys. Yeah, I got blockers. Yeah, well, I got a like, sounds like the opposite of what you want. It's D-O-D-O-W. You got it up there, right? Oh, we got it. Sounds like the opposite of what you want. It's it's DO, DO, you got it up there. Oh, we got it. Yeah, there you go. There you go. Interesting. Yeah, that was that's a that was a counter information out there.

Based guiding breathing techniques. Okay. So I'm going to skip seven and eight because I think they're stupid because they're like in souls for shoes and sock gadgets. These are, I'm only going to hook people up with that. I think ones that are cool. They're cool. I have to talk about this one even though because this company actually reached out to us and wanted to advertise and I actually kind of told him The fly kite and it looks like they're blowing up neck hammock and it's for people that have like stiff. Oh, I've seen this. Yes, the guy reached out. That's legit Why don't you you should have had it because it's crushing a fucking pro it's crushing a shit. You need to fix

No, I think it's it's it helps provide traction With your neck, right? Okay, that means yeah, no, that means yeah, why don't I said what? No, I'm saying what like that you actually think that it's a good it's a good idea isn't that the thing Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing well this let me look at the picture of it I just rest like you're chin in it. Oh, no, this is good for traction So sometimes when people have compressed it so whatever discs, did I say something else this helps create This will create a little bit of traction which will alleviate some of the pain But then if you combine this with exercise, it may be a good thing to use. Okay, so why don't you send us a sample?

Well, yeah, no, they wanted to come on the show and they wanted to sponsor us, and I told them to fly kite. Oh, dang. Yeah. Yeah, why don't you speak up then? Okay, number 10, Adam's a tough one. Yeah, I have a tough sale. I mean, what it screams to me is somebody that's got

forward head, and instead of addressing the forward head, now you stick this, your head and this hammock and you sleep in it, which is basically just lifting it up. I don't think it's to sleep. I think it helps alleviate pain and it might be good if you combine it with exercise, but I have to try it out. Yeah, I probably wouldn't sleep like that. Yeah, that's weird. It looks like an auto-acquement. And what you really should do is just weird dreams. Like you hear cracking noises.

Hey, babe, can you sit in this room? See, look at all it's doing is, I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm not sold. You might be sold on it, but I'm not sold on it. Okay, so number 10, Scravatational Forces. Eco green charcoal bags. This was interesting right here.

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Did you know they make underwear that have a little charcoal- I've seen those, yeah. They have a shut, like, and it's like right, you know, around your anews. So you get fart and it would just like, it would absorb the smell. Yeah, so you fall away.

It feels tracier. It's still hard. Yeah, it's true. No way. Yeah, that's true. But does it work? Like, I don't know. Well, there's only one.

I'd have to try it out. We'd have to. Here's if it works on you, that thing is. We bring Courtney on and she would like, you know, verify. Space age technology. Here's a cool one that for those that have family members that drink a lot of beer. I wish I drank beer because I think this is neat right here. It's called chill, okay.

It's a way to keep beer cold. Basically, it's like a one of those hydroflasps, but it's designed to unscrew at the bottom. And then the bottle just goes in. And so it keeps your beer cold. It's like a futuristic coosie. Yeah, that's cool. That's your koozy. Yeah, unscrews the bottom and then the beer,

any standard beer bottle fits perfectly into it. Keeps your beer cool forever. So you just put it right inside the koozy? Yeah. Yeah, it's like, it's a time machine right there. Yeah, a tub time machine. Yeah, that old, no, that's not it. That's not it.

Yeah, that's not it. It's all right, we don't just see it. Second, it's fine. Skipping the not it. Yeah, that's not it. That's all right, we don't see it. Yeah, that's fine. I'm skipping the next one because I think it's boring. This one's cool. Snap SmartCam, the hidden cam that allows charges to your phone. Hidden cam?

Yeah, everybody needs a hidden camera. 1080p camera, you can hide it anywhere. Not creepy at all. Right, no, not at all. Order that. Here's a carbon clean. This would be great for all our people that own the Felix Grace.

One thing about the Felix Grace, I do notice is I do have to clean them a lot. They smudge a lot. I don't know if it's the, I don't know if I breathe too hot or whatever, but I'm always like fogging them up. No, do you breathe like this? Are you like breathing up?

Yeah, that might be it. There's something different about the lenses. I don't know what it is, but something, obviously there's something different because they blow off blue lights, but because of that, they get kind of like, they get really easily, they get smudge. So I am what happens is the blue light collects in the lens,

and then you have to wipe it off. Stupid, dude. Wow, stupid, and it's terrible. This guy's bringing in the knowledge. So these things called carbon clean, clean is spelled with a K. It's designed. And it's terrible. This guy's bringing in the knowledge. So these things called carbon clean. Clean is spelled with a K. It's designed for that. Oh, that's, every time it's so funny when they spell something with like a word, like

one letter that's off to make it look cool. Yeah. Clean with a K. That's just misspelling. So I'm skipping stupid ones. So I'm on 19 now. It's an eye-tack safety disc. This is kind of neat.

It's like for roadside emergency, if you ever have to pull over at night time and change your tire or something like that. And you like slap it, it's like a magnet slaps on the side of your car and then it's like this, you know, it's like a bright orange color. So cars can see you and drive them by on the freeway.

I feel like that's not that advanced. It's not really that advanced. Do you like we've had magnets for a while? This one. This one. Magnet technology. You had to look this out this called glow ball Well, so glow and then pull one word sleeves now. Yeah, this is one. I am for sure getting because I don't know about you guys I don't how do you guys get up and go take it? Do you guys keep night lights going on in your bathroom when to go pee? Like or how do you guys get it when you get it?

When you already turn on the lights to go take a piss I adapt in the dark. Yep. Are you sonar? Yeah. Technology. Look at this. You can, you can, uh, Ellie's cool. Yeah. Oh my god. Oh my god. And you're taking a dump.

Yes. Ellie D lights. You can color your toilet bowl. Any color you want. But I love it because Is it a black light? Because that would be good in the toilet. Whoa.

Shhh. Whoa. Justin, you put this in your toilet. That's what I'm talking about, you put this in your toy. That's what I'm talking about. You put this in your toy that your boys would have a fucking blast. Oh my god, isn't it? Is that great?

It'd be like a dance party. No. And it's like a $10 gift or less. I'm done. I'm getting that one. The rest of them are stupid. But I thought those were the best ones in the 25th. Speaking of futuristic things, so I was on the plane coming back from my trip and you

ever look at the magazines that are in the planes that they provide you with? Like when you're just insanely bored, you have nothing else. Yeah, they're like, yeah, you turn off your electronics, we're going to go to the magazine. There's a magazine that's called Skymall. Skymall, Skymall. Yeah, it was something like that, right? So I'm looking through it and just wasting time. And there was a hat that had the photo bio modulation technology.

Like Jubilee. Right. It had red lights in the hat. And it's four people who are like in like little what's led. That's like like I had the hat flipped upside down. It was all red like what? And so I'm looking at it. I'm like, oh, look, and so I showed Jessica.

I'm like, look, they put they put the photo bio modulation. I hope I'm looking at it, I'm like, oh, look, and so I showed Jessica, I'm like, look, they put, they put the photo of bio-modulation, I hope I'm saying it right. I think so. Red light therapy in a hat, because it helps regrow hair. And she starts laughing, she's like, that's so dumb that doesn't work. And I'm like, don't you listen to the show?

Like, yes, it does. I told you that, I've noticed. So we're talking, right? About this, we're going back and forth having a little debate. And then this lady sitting next to us She's like I'm a and I can't remember the name of her position. It's like a trick. It's something her job She's a dermatologist that's that that focuses on hair hair follicles and the hair and the health of hair follicle So this woman turns around I guess there's a specialist for that there's a name and it's her course

Maybe business maybe you can figure out the name it's her so the swimmin' turns around. So there's a specialist for that. There's a name and a third of the team, maybe a business. Maybe you can figure out the name. It starts with the tea. And she turns around and she goes, I'm a whatever. And she goes, it does work. She goes, absolutely.

I have people use it all the time. She was that stuff. Definitely, she's like the key is you have to use it consistently, but it does help regrow hair. So this is what I noticed about the Juve Light. But she did say it had to be very, very consistent and high quality. Remember how the Juve Light people came on the show

and their lights are good, the other ones are not good? Yeah. So then I told her, I'm like, oh, that's crazy. I said I have a podcast and were sponsored by Juve and she's like, oh, they're one of the best. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's rad.

Confirmation. I told you that I noticed a difference when I was consistently doing every day and there it goes a trick Trichologist that sounds like a Trichologist hey, I'm skeptical. I try college skeptical Maybe I'm saying wrong Trichologist, I don't think they'd like Yeah, I thought she made up some shit. I looked you already that one someone says something to you and you're like

Oh, yeah, yeah, I know what that is. I have no idea. I looked it up afterwards. I love the armament. I say mixologist. It's like the holiday in commercials, you know? Remember those holidays in commercials? Or somebody's like, somebody accidentally

on the ground and they're coming up. What are you? Are you a doctor? No, but I stayed at the holiday in the last night. So it works. We knew it works through the studies, but she's a tricologisturgist and she's like, for sure, I use these all the time.

And then she vouched for, for Juve, which is really cool. And don't they have like some handheld devices coming out, Doug? Like some wands or something? Yeah, they have one coming out real soon. It's a handheld device. So if you go to the tube website, it's very small, you can take it with you,

you can put it down your pants. If you're working on that I Increases testosterone in your jocks strap. No, I know I mean I told you our our boy Mike Is it months? I think it's how I pronounce his last night or last name he he was the one that sent me his His test before and after from Jews went up big time a lot like double. Yeah, so was it but again I think you have to be consistent with it and I think as soon as you fall off of it, I think there it will kind of normalize anything.

Like anything. Yeah, I think you'll get a surge from it. I think if you maintain it, you'll keep that up there. If you fall off, then you'll kind of go back down to where you were before. So the same thing I felt with my hair when I was like consistently doing it. You felt it, you felt it.

Oh yeah, I felt like my hair was thicker and I was like, this is weird. I don't know if this is working, but I feel like, doing it. You felt it, you felt it. Oh yeah, I felt like my hair was thicker and I was like, this is weird. I don't know if this is working, but I feel like, and Katrina was making comments. As soon as I fell off, I kind of felt like it went back to where it was before. That's how I felt. So what I was thinking about doing

is putting a Juvelight panel in my sauna. So I'd work out, then I sauna, and have the red light on me. So, who knows what's gonna happen. I don't know if I'm gonna create, I'm a little worried, does that work? And I'm like all hair? You know what I mean?

No, no, no. If I put it down there, I'm out of it. It doesn't make you hairier. Right. It just, just make sure. For areas that, for areas your body where you're losing hair due to androgenic alopecia, hair loss due to the DHT attaching to the hair follicles whatever that's what it helps

So no you're not gonna shine it on your on your chest and they get a Sprout burials next week Holy shit, I'm a wolf man. Yeah, I don't want my girl Not sex I'm just trying to be more Italian for you Terrible visual, right dude Not sex. It's like I'm just trying to be more Italian for you. Oh, terrible visual. All right. Dude, so what was that thing that we were looking at? You said you wanted to bring it up on show. Yeah, I saw something that was kind of like it was amusing, but also alarming in that.

So I guess there's all this backlash with PETA and And they put out some information out there as far as like, they're trying to come at certain idioms. So certain ways like sayings like, you're beating a dead horse. Or you know, bring home the bacon. Bring home the bacon or you know, kill two birds with one stone. And they're trying to replace it with terminology,

you know, to enforce like different ideas and not be like, you know, have like this undertone of being cruel to animals. And so anyway, the internet went crazy with this. Well, the reason why they went crazy because I read this too, is that they were comparing terms like bring home the bacon to racist, to racist. Yes, that's racism.

Oh, dude, and that's where people just lost their shit. Yeah, like, no, no, no, I'm sorry. Bringing home the bacon and that's- Home of phobia and like racism, and they're doing all this like comparison. And you know, my favorite was the meme that South posted a couple days ago with the chicken between the two gay guys.

Yeah, and they were trying to make it look like. Yeah, like it was like it's the chicken between, yeah. That would, what a terrible, what a terrible ad. You know, say you're trying to just I think the message They were trying to say was that eating the meat would would kill your sex drive right? Yeah It just looks like to two gay guys fucked chicken Like wow is escalated. Yeah, see right there. P des says phrases like bring home the bacon are comparable to racism and homophobia.

No, dude, you know what the problem is? We're turning into a bunch of people. Waddering down real, real issues by, by putting information out. Yeah, I got one for you. Peter jumped the shark. Yes. So you know what? They did.

Let me tell you, if Peter's listening right now. We gotta rephrase that, so. Yeah, what is it? Jump the fuck, I don't know. Jump the rock. Jump the chair. I'm, I'm gonna give some advice to PETA right now. First off, PETA, if you're listening. I understand, yeah, I'm sure PETA loves my pulpit. Listen to it all the time. I understand that you view harming animals

at the same level as harming humans, and so I understand the empathy and a lot of stuff that you guys, you know, extend animals, I get that. And I understand what you're trying to do to the world because you're trying to save animals because again, you believe it's completely immoral. But here's my advice to you. My advice is, you change your tactics

because when you attack these things like this, you, what you do is you trivialize issues that a lot of people can get behind. For example, most people can get behind not being cruel to animals. Most people can get behind changing mass produced meats or at least the way that they're produced and the way animals are treated.

But when you say, addressing that as an issue. Yeah, when you say stuff like, bring them the bacon, it's just like racism, nobody wants to fucking listen to you anymore. And this actually highlights what's happening with the rest of society. You see this with feminists, we'll use this,

you'll see this with calling everything racist, you'll see it trivializes the real issues and then nobody wants to listen anymore. Now, now you're not effective like you're making a joke at it. It's fragmented the entire process. Yeah. It's just like where does it end? Like, there's always something that you can sort of bring up that you don't agree. The only people that are going to agree with this are people who are hardcore bought in already. If you're trying to change the minds of of People who may be on the fences to whether or not they can eat meat or not This isn't gonna fucking do it. Definitely jump. It's just gonna make them go. Yeah, you're being what's the Rudolph thing?

What's going on when Rudolph the red nose reindeer? Oh, what were they saying that it was I don't know So you did that post this morning that I think you're trying to piss off every all the ultra sensitive people Yeah, and it's already getting traction. People are commenting. Are we in tagging? Yeah. Well, no, somebody just, some girl underneath here said, what do you think about what's going on with Rudolph? Maybe Doug can look at, see if you put Rudolph Red nose reindeer

and see if there's shit coming up going on. Controversy? Yeah. I was trying to think, what was that? I don't know, dude. You want to hear one that's really, well, Doug looks like it. You could find something in it, right? Oh, it's it's being seriously

Problematic, but why why is it seriously maybe Doug can give us a quick synopsis after he looks at it, but here's Here's Something else while he looks that up that I found hilarious. Do you know that song? Baby it's cold outside. Yes. I was gonna bring this up to where yeah, yeah, I'm just saying it just I don't know that one Well, baby, it's cold outside. I really don't care Yeah, that's all yeah, that's all you get. I don't know the whole thing did so they were saying that it's a song that promotes like date rape or that promotes Because the guys like trying to stay over right like it the undertone is that this guy's like trying to get some Yeah, come on. I don't want to stay over right like it the undertone is that the sky's like he's like trying to get some yeah

I don't want to stay in it whatever you know she's like well I don't know I've had too much to drink or whatever she's being kind of coy and you know like playing hard to get here. Here's why there's nobody listen to rap music. Oh my god. Yeah that's the thing. Yeah I should like really. How could he be so angry? These same people that are mad at that song are the ones are like Beyonce Really not that one's good Oh God, yeah, that's what I'm saying like okay fine. You may have something that you're fighting for But nobody wants to listen to you anymore because now you're just being still You know what this is what we get for having some good times the last five 10 years You know, Sam's exactly for a hundred from the last 50 years, right now

Fuck you weak men are coming. Yeah, we totally brushed over this though. I'm sorry I have to read these because like some of these like Terms they wanted you to replace for those like sands like so kill two birds with one stone Feed two birds with one stone It gets better dude hold on hold on hold on really any We got to break it down. Okay. Okay. First of all the saying kill two birds with one stone It's extremely difficult to kill one bird with a stone let alone too. So it's a very difficult thing to do. The odds are against you.

Easy to feed, put two birds of one stone. Yeah, throw a stone on the ground. Pretty much, I'll feed two birds. Your guaranteed dimension bird shouldn't be eaten scones. That's right, Pita, what are you trying to do? Ooh, oh, dog, woo. Yeah, yeah, that's flawed. Okay, here we go.

Be the guinea pig. Be the test tube, right? The test tube. What? Because if you think, you know, being the guinea pig for something, you're the first one to kind of get experimented on. Yeah.

You don't, you're experimenting to test tube. It's logical. We don't experiment on the test tubes. They'll we use them too anyway. Anyway, next one. Be to dead horse. Right. Be to fed horse. Uh horse. Feed a fed horse. Maybe he's kind of force feeding a fed horse. But which one seems more like silly? Like, dude, what are

you hitting a dead horse? It's already dead, right? Versus, he's full. Sometimes you want to feed him. You're really feeding a fed horse. Especially if you're like an Italian mom, they do that all the time. Now you're encouraging obesity and animals. Exactly. Okay, that's as close as we got so far. So bring home the bacon, bring home the bagels. Who doesn't like bagels? Bagels are cheap. Yeah, bacon's a little more expensive.

What if you're gluten intolerant? Ooh, I'm offended. How did bacon get connected to money? What's the... It was expensive. At one point it was expensive. And so when you brought home the bacon, it was because you did,

you did well. Yeah, you did well. Was that true? I didn't know that. Why was bacon so expensive? Me all meat was expensive. Yeah, meat was a thing. Bro, it wasn't that long ago.

The great depression was tough times. It wasn't that long ago that like eating steak once a week was like a big deal. Well, I get steak, but I didn't realize that bacon was considered really high. I know steak would have been a better to bring home the steak.

Definitely would have been more expensive. Right, that's what I was confused. We're gonna replace, bring home the bacon. Bring home the steak. Bring home the steak. There you go, Peter. We just want to up to you. I'll make it even worse.

Bring home the foie gras. You know? Oh, no, we can't do that. So, take the bull by the horns. Take the flower by the thorns. That's stupid. Yeah, so much easier to do that than take a bull by the horns. Anyway, that's, I had to just bring, that was like,

that was interesting to see how they were trying to raise that. Okay, so here's why, what's going on? They don't like Rudolph because the bullying that little Rudolph faces for his red nose including verbal abuse from his father Donner by the way Donner's daughter's Rudolph's father. I guess so this whole time. I didn't know that Mind blown because he was bullied fucking daughter, but then at the end of the fucking story He leads the reindeer leads everybody don't be a donner at the end of the fucking story, he leads the reindeer. He leads everybody. Don't be a donner.

I think it's a story, right? I feel like it's a good story. It's the, yeah, it's the underdog story, isn't it? What are they overcoming adversity? You know what I want? We're eliminating adversity. You know what we need to do? We need to gather up a bunch of these people.

I don't know what you want to call them. A bunch of them in the face. No, yeah. I'm just bullying them. That will work. No, we need to gather them all up in a room and we need to give them some crayons and some paper and say, okay, write down and draw out your end goal.

Yeah. Please tell me what everything would look like. Where do we just like lead? Yeah, like what do you want, like everything to look like with all of this? And just see what they come up with, you know what I mean? Probably just a cloud. Yeah, because we're all breathitarians.

Listen, everything that we do, there's a cause and effect. And I think people, when they have the right, I think they, they're, they have the right idea of when they're going this direction, or I think they want, you know, everyone to be nicer. And, right, I think, yeah, I think in theory, their idea works. But when you see the outcome of what happens,

when you do that, it just makes everybody softer and weaker. It's no different than when you have a bunch of kids playing a game in a league or whatever, and you have parents coming together and saying, if we have them keep score, then that means someone loses feelings you're gonna get hurt. And when you decoddle them.

And when you lose, it doesn't feel good. So what we're gonna do is we're not gonna keep score so that nobody ever loses. And in theory, that sounds like a good idea. Like, oh, my kid doesn't have to lose and cry and be in last place. We're like that, he's no matter what, he tried and we get, but the kids always keep score anyway.

Right. And beside that. And I'm beside that. And besides that, losing teaches you something. That beside that, and besides that, losing teaches you something. That's right. And besides that, at some point, they're gonna experience life

where you're gonna not be the best. Someone's gonna be better than you or you're gonna suck. Or you're gonna try something and it's not gonna work. I can be an astronaut easy. Yeah, there's, that's just,

here's the thing, like, people, we all value things, okay? That's just the way it is. Humans all, we just value things and some things we value more than others. And the things we value more are going to be obviously more valuable and people who can produce those things are going to be more valuable because the things that they produce are valued more by more people, which means those people are more important and are valued more.

And this is just the consequence of us being able to move through society and us being able to progress. Otherwise, nothing works. And it just doesn't work that way. You seen Chris Delia stand up on this, but you're not special. Oh yeah, that's so good. You're not fucking special.

Everybody thinks they're like densel in the mood. Like they're watching themselves. Yeah, I'm densel. Yeah, I, so good. You know fucking special. Yeah, everybody thinks they're like densel the movie like they're watching themselves Yeah, I'm denser. Yeah, I'm dead. No, you're not you're not you're the pussy never Never in any moment of life. Yeah, your parents tell you you're a snowflake. You're not fucking special Well right along those lines. I'm gonna bring up an article. Oh, wow, we're getting we're getting heavy today Oh, this is gonna be a good one. I told you guys, I told you. Cry closets are getting used today. No, I just, oh shit.

Hey, listen to this episode of your Cry closet. Oh, you know what, one of my favorite memes you post was the one about like how we had to, in third grade, watch, you know, the spaceship explode. Yep. And then it gave us like a moment of silence and then right back to it. Yeah, we didn't go home. We didn't go home. Yeah, a lot of people on

it was that 1984 was it when the spaceship challenger literally like horrific. Yeah, look at that. Look at the date. So for the people who aren't familiar, they literally all the public schools gather up the children. They wield in the TV. Remember when they used to wield a TV in on a big platform, whatever, they wield it in, they plugged it in. This was a big deal for public schools because there was a public school teacher on that shuttle.

Yes. And so they made it a big deal. Like, oh my god, it's gonna be the first teacher that goes to space, 1986. And it was the, it was challenger. And so all the kids, I remember, we we got everybody got together and we all sat down Yeah, and we all are watching the TV and the teachers are excited and everybody's doing the countdown and we're watching it live So there's no way to filter what's gonna happen? No, and it's going up into the sky and then boom the whole thing explodes

And I'm you know, how old am I? I'm seven years old. So what grade is that? Second grade, maybe? Second or third grade? And the teachers were horrified. I remember this. Oh, I was horrified.

Yeah, I started crying. Yeah, teacher, you did? Yeah, I think so. After that, yeah, I did. I remember the teacher started crying. Yeah. And all of us were just, I was like contagious. Yeah, the teacher started and. And all of us were just like contagious.

Yeah, the teacher started and then we all realized what happened. And everybody was like, huh? And then we all were quiet and then we went back to class. Yeah. And that was it. And you know, that's shitty, but shit happens. Yeah.

And today, if that happened, it right back to work. They'd probably have counselors, you know, and you know, the week off of school, I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, I got something else for you guys. You guys might find this hilarious. So states are starting to pass bills that allow drivers to hit protesters,

if they're standing in the street. Yeah, so because what's happened, have you seen some of these cases? Yeah, they blocked, they barricade like areas, and take it through. And drivers will feel threatened because people will like being on the hoods of their cars. And so they're passing bills that are saying,

like, hey, if someone are hitting your car, like, you can run them over. And you'll be, I'm kind of pro that. Yeah, that's kind of interesting. I'm kind of pro, like you apps, there's crosswalks for a reason. And when you're, and you when you cross the street, you should use them for safety or find new ways to protest. But if I'm in my car and you have a baseball bat and you're hitting my hood, you better believe your ass I'm running you over. Well, I know I'm not going to let what you're

threatening. Absolutely. Well, I know for me, if I'm driving, because I've seen some of these videos and they definitely are threatening, where they're like shaking the car, they're banging on the windows, and maybe they're not breaking the windows, but you're surrounded by a lot of people who are yelling at you. I mean, if I was in a car with my kids, and I had a crowd of people around me, banging on the windows, shaking my car. Get a car ran over, dude. I'm hitting the gas. I'm probably gonna hit the gas and not probably.

I am. I don't know. No hesitation. No hesitation. Especially I got kids in my car. I'm not even a father. I was like, I would do it by myself.

That is fucking threatening. If someone's being physically violent slamming your hoods, doing that to you and you're trapped in there, like what do you do? Even if they're not hitting your car if they're just surrounding and yelling in your window. To me, that could feel very like fuck what's about to happen. Yeah, you have no idea. Yeah, that's defending yourself. No, absolutely.

I mean, if someone is walking towards me and swinging a bat, even if they don't make connection, like I'm gonna do everything in my power to put them on the ground. I mean, just because I'm not gonna wait till they fucking make contact with my skull before I try and retaliate, that's stupid. No, hell no.

Put yourself in that position, you're getting ran over. Yeah, yeah, so the passing bills now. It's interesting. What states, does it say? No, I didn't get that. You're getting ran over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the passing bills now. It's interesting What states does it say? No, it didn't I didn't get that California. I guess Oregon. Yes That's like a center. No, it's like the Texas past didn't yeah, maybe Texas would be like if I can run them over or shoot them Whatever, whichever one. It's all happening in Oregon for the most part Well, the ones that we saw those videos. Yeah, yeah, so what's going on in organ you didn't see those videos of

no there was a they were shutting down they were shutting down I thought this was like the Charles this is a response to Charleston thing well no it's been I mean it's been happening everywhere also north Dakota North Carolina Florida Tennessee and Texas of course Texas yeah interesting all right to let's lift the mood a little bit of Florida, Tennessee and Texas. And of course Texas. I saw that one. He builds. Yeah. Interesting. All right.

Florida. Let's lift the mood a little bit. I gotta go. That was a little dark. Yeah, let's lift the mood a little bit. I got another cool article. So a new paper was published by researchers that shows the surprising effect on mental health that lifting weights has.

And they're finding that lifting weights as little as two days a week has a profound effect on people's mental state in a positive way. Just twice a week, it led to a remission rate, a remission rate, excuse me, that was on par with antidepressants. And this was specifically resistance training. I'm so glad to start to come out with these studies and prove like pretty much what we know like from training people. And they're

showing that the resistance training is causing actual change to the brain that is contributing to that's the article right there Doug that's contributing to better with an MAM ad right above it better better mental state. So it's not just the because it used to be believed that working out just felt good right because you're moving. In you're producing these feel good chemicals and hormones. It's not just that. It's actually setting you up for a brain that is more resilient to depression or anxiety. So it's actually changing, just like weight training, changes in shapes, your muscles. It also changes in shapes, your brain. And the way that it changes in shapes, your brain,

is it makes it more resilient to, you know, these, some of these negative, I guess, ailments or feelings. And if you think about it, it makes perfect sense, right? Like, if we think about exercise just from a purely physical standpoint and don't include the brain, which is silly that we do that, but that's just what we use to think, right? When you get stronger because you're working out, especially with weights, does your body become more resilient to breaking a bone, falling down, hurting yourself?

Does it become more resilient to illness? So let's say you get sick, and you have an additional 10 pounds of muscle on your body. Are you more likely to survive the illness? Are you more likely to survive cancer or the chronic illnesses? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Well, it's very true for the brain as well. And so it, which is I think this is phenomenal. It's so awesome that this kind of stuff is getting mainstream

because for so long now resistance training or weight training has been viewed as just this, oh, it's just this, you know, narcissistic thing. What's what percentage of the population is actually resistant training? Can you look that up? I'll be I remember consistently yeah, I mean period I think I remember when I first came on the 24-hour fitness like what 17 years or more go Mm-hmm, and they used to give this stat and it was like only 4% of the population back then It was really really low and I know I know every year after that it was on it was it's been on the rise So it'd be interesting to see like what percentage of society actually lifts weights, is it?

What does it say there? We don't know. 20.8%. Yes, it was like 4% when I first got into the space. Well, it's engaged in regular, regularly in weight training activity. Well, that's good. But so let's just,

that's still low. Let's just review this for a second. I think more than half should be at least. We've now seen mainstream article saying, weight training is better for your heart than cardio. Now, it's not saying you shouldn't do both because both is the best, but it's saying weight training is better

for your heart than cardio. We've seen articles that say weight training is the best form of exercise for older populations for pretty much every reason. And now we're seeing, article saying weight training is phenomenal for mental health issues. I think we're on the cusp of seeing a revolution in the way medicine recommends exercise

and that they're gonna recommend resistance training in particular for all health. Now, all those facets that you brought up, it's interesting to me to think too that with the mental side, the mental health side of it, just like allocating resources and all these connections that you make

by resistance trains, like you're giving, it doesn't like, it's not like this continual sort of feedback that you're getting by not utilizing. Do you think it matters? Do you think it really matters? Well, how? Like, do you think that people are going to, because all the, the science is supporting it, because we're going to start seeing more and more doctors recommend it, do you really think it's going to have that large of an impact on the population that more

and more people are gonna start doing it? Do you really think so? I do, 100%. Absolutely. Because it's still take, because we, doctors for years have been saying eat less food. Yeah, but the more, we're not adhering to that. But that's not the right. It takes less effort to refrain from doing something to actually take to make the effort

to go somewhere and to do work. But eat less food isn't the right message. We know that. I know, but it's been a message that it's been given out for a very long time. But you get an obese person comes in, they say with a doctor, I don't think one doctor's never said back to that person,

stop eating fucking food or lay off the food or eat less food. I guarantee that's always been in their prescription and how many of them add here to it. No, I know that, but I think that's the wrong message and that's far more complex and difficult. You think that's more complex than telling someone to go to the gym and lift weights? Yep, I think it's easier for people to say, hey, you should do some kind of resistance training at least a couple days a week. I think eat less food.

First off is the wrong message. We know this. You tell someone to eat less food without teaching them which foods make them want to eat more. I agree, but it's not about whether it's a good message or a bad message. It's the people adhering to it. It's what am I arguing?

Trends definitely catch wave and definitely grow people's awareness and increase people's participation. Cigarette smoking, for example, that's a big trend that reversed. It used to be so cool to smoke cigarettes now, so not cool. That's a good example. Running went through its own revolution in the 70s where everybody want to run a rubick activity, gym participation in gyms alone exploded in the 90s. I think resistance training still today, if you ask the average person, hey, what

do you think about weight training? They're going to say, oh, you know, it's to build big muscles, it's to look strong, to look tough, you know, to make you look good. They still don't have the perception of resistance training. Do you think, okay, so say this does take on, you know, weight and it becomes, it starts a movement. Do you see that message getting distorted at all by like machines and it being all about like, for sure, yeah, because ease of access, right?

Definitely. There's gotta be a way, and that's my argument is that people are fucking lazy by nature. Bottom line. If you're too lazy to not shove a burger and fries in your face, what makes me think that you're going to take the action to go to the gym and exercise? I mean, at least personally for me, it's easier for me to make a choice during the day when I want a burger and fries, and I go, fuck, I've sat on my ass all day long,

I have an exercise today is not the day for me to do this, I'm not gonna do it. It's easier for me to do that than it is to fuck, get up off my ass after work at five or six o'clock, go to the gym and go exercise and lift weights. Yeah, so I still think that problem still exists. You know what though? This is something interesting that I'm not

no matter what I agree, it's good, right? But I question, will it be as significant as you think it's going to be As far as people starting to get more. I mean, I think it's gonna take time It's gonna open up the conversation and it's gonna make the conversation different. It's gonna take really influential people to You know, like buy into it. Well think about this way. How many people have tried working out for, and I'm not resisting training, the traditional way that people will try working out, which is do cardio, go running,

get on cardio machine type of stuff. What percentage have tried doing that for three months out of their life, right? It's a pretty significant percentage, not everybody, but a lot of people have tried. Now, imagine if instead of them trying those forms of exercise, if everybody tried three months of good traditional resistance training,

I think a larger percentage of them would have stuck to it because of the results that resistance training provides versus what you see from cardio. You know what I'm saying? I feel like, because I know me, when I would work with people with resistance training, if I got them for three months, I got them for a long time, because after about three months, you start to see and feel the benefit, I think it's a better selling point. I also think the message needs to be different though.

If doctors are saying goal of weight to lose weight, it's not going to work. I think if people say, lift weights a couple days a week because it improves your health, makes you move better, these types of things, then it might be a little bit better. Because if you sell exercise for weight loss, it's a bad, it's a bad way to sell exercise alone is a terrible way to lose weight. We know that you got to have the diet, but I think if we sell it differently, maybe it's going to be a little bit different. I don't mean it's a big problem.

For me, the exciting thing is, I think resistance training is finally going to make it mainstream. It's finally going to become this like, you know, that's the way you exercise. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think sometimes we're in our own little bubble, you know, and we think that way. I think most people, the average American looks at exercise whether it be running or lifting weights as more work. And most Americans feel like they work already a ton

and to put more work in, regardless of its benefit. I don't think there's a person in this world whether that, no matter what the message is, that if you ask them, do you think that lifting weights is good and healthy for you would say, no, I think they all would say yes. Now more and more science is supporting how much better it is for you, but I think the average American fucking knows.

I think they know that lifting weights would be good for me. I don't think anybody goes like, oh, lifting weights, that would be bad. So I don't think that this is going to be as revolutionary as you think it's going to be. I think it's going to be. I think that it's, I think it's good information. I think it's going to get rid of some bad information. Like, I think hopefully the people that were exercising, there's going to be more people that were running that make a decision to probably go lift weights instead of that. But those are the same

people that are making effort and trying already. Is it going to impact the 80% of the other 80% of the population that doesn't do shit? I don't know. I don't know. There is some evidence that shows that trends seem to be going the other direction. Parents are more, seem to be more aware of the types of foods that they feed their kids.

People are talking about the lack of activity now in a different way than they used to. But I don't know. I definitely think it's gonna become a trend. I think there's two really important environments that this has to take hold of and to really take off with, it was at school and at the workplace.

And so whether this is instituted by upper management or like the CEO decision maker of the company needs to mandate this hour as like here's you know not just this is something different than just a lunch break. That's a great point Justin. That's the only way you're going to culturally. Exactly. That I can get on board with because, and you're seeing more and more companies do this. More and more companies are, I know Apple, Google, all these big ones, everybody is allotted a monthly membership that they can go to a gym. Some of them have actually built gyms inside their facilities, so they're encouraging it

more and more. I think the future is that it becomes mandated, or a part of, I think when companies get rid of it, it's scheduled in there. Yeah, I mean, and here's a thing though, look, we don't even do it, we're a fitness company. I think it would be very wise if it would be who of us to have this morning ritual with our staff

and contractors that all work with us, where hey, we meet at the Mind Pump Studio at 8 a.m., and we all get a lift in, and I think that would be this super positive thing that we'd see benefit. So recommendations and sometimes the companies will pay for fitness programs and stuff like that. The recommendations are typically based on the current accepted science. So right now you may get, you know, go do some, go do this aerobics class or go do this. I think as more and more news like this comes out with resistance training and they're showing that it's more beneficial.

Once insurance companies see that this actually may save money, then we may see that, you know, move more in that direction. For me, what's exciting is the conversation is changing around resistance training. It wasn't that long ago that resistance training, even now when you talk about lifting weights and you bring it up in an office, what do people picture? Bodybuilders and people big biceps. They don't picture like, oh, it's for my health, you know? It's not in the same category as other forms of exercise

that people consider just for health. So that's what excites me is, except. Now here's the drawback. 100% and here's the weakness withites me. It excites me. Now here's the drawback. 100% here's the weakness with resistance training. It's more complex. Resistant training, it's not easy like getting on a piece of cardio.

And we in general as humans tend to gravitate towards easier, easier, easier, easier. You know, less effort, less effort, less effort. And now new science supports, hey, taking more time, more effort is better for you. Does that, will we gravitate towards that? I don't know, man. I don't know.

I don't, I don't, I mean, I like to be optimistic with you and think that it's going to be revolutionary, but I, I don't know if I have that much faith in humanity in, in, in this aspect that we would actually take more effort towards it, unless, and I'm with Justin on this, unless it gets such a problem, and this is how we work, this is what's going to happen. When the stats that everyone's been saying for the last 10 years, it really starts happening where the kids start dying off before the parents,

and obesity is just ramped, and our healthcare is fucking upside down and we're a fucking mess, and all these kids are really out of control to the point where we mandate exercise as a part of the education. And now kids are being taught, strength training at a very young age

and it becomes part of their education. That would be the absolute best thing ever. Yes, it would. And now that would be revolutionary. It would be that would change a culture. Imagine if they did that. Imagine if for schools they taught weight training. Yeah, what if we had a class for a training?

Yeah, in my opinion, that would be just like English math history, any other subject, all through school. Like from K, all the way up. And all you do is teach like four or five really basic nuances. You just progress it. Just like you do in every any other subject. You know, I'm saying when there's an advanced level. Yeah, when they're in first grade, you're not doing barbell squats with them.

In first grade, you're just teaching them activity and movement and flexibility and mobility. A little basic play exercise as play. And then as they progress and get older, you start to implement more and more better movements for them. To at one point, I don't know what age exactly that ends up being, but at one point you start to progress them into barbell lifting, and then it becomes a staple thing that they're doing everyone's doing. Instead of running high track and instead of having these,

these other standards that they used to have in physical education, like we, we adjust that a bit. So it's a little more focused on resistance training. God, the irony of all of this is if if you implemented that, you would see a 100%, you would see a reduction in ADD diagnosis. You'd see scores go up on tests and grades. You'd see kids behave better, quote unquote, better in classrooms because they're moving

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Our first question is from Craig Valentine 581. What are your thoughts on strong lifts 5 by 5? You know, that's probably one of the better basic training templates that's out there. Don't they have studies to support that if you were to do just one, like, I don't want to call them Odali, it's not a modality, One, like in that call. Yeah, one protocol, thank you Justin.

One single protocol that the benefits that you get from a five by five type of training model overlap the most as far as strength, hypertrophy, everything than any other rep range. I mean, it's, it's, it's effect, part of the reason why it's effective is they focus on the best exercises. It's funny because this, this workout's been around for a long time

and the exercises in it, I'll tell you what they are right here, squats, bench press, barbell row, overhead press and deadlift. The ones that we would all agree with best. And it is banged for your back there. It's an old school template for exercise. It's been around for a long time and it got popular as the internet kind of got popular and grew.

And people started doing this routine and they're like, oh shit, I'm building way more muscle on this than I am on this body part split. Once a week routine that uses all these machines and cables on the other side of the shit, and people were gaining more strength than muscle. Because why it focuses on the best exercises,

it doesn't focus on the other exercises, it's your meat and potatoes. It's a lot of frequency, I think you squat two or three days a week in this program, and you're doing five sets of an exercise which encourages practice. So if you're going into a workout and you're doing five sets of squats

and you have to do five reps, what tends to happen is you don't really start to fatigue for the until you get to the last couple sets. So the first few sets are you're practicing your squats, you're kind of the things that we preach all the time. And if you want to take it to the next level of a routine that's similar but far more programmed, it'd be maps and a ball. You did something like maps and a ball.

You'd get much better results because there's a lot more programming. Well, because you get all the perks of what you're talking about there as far as the exercise choice, the strength blocks, and then we've also included the other two phases, which so you're right, I think that, and I tell people this every, I get this DM a lot. What do you guys think of five by five?

It's like, well, many of the positive benefits that are in MAP Santa Ballock are based off of a 5x5 type of training protocol. Yeah, it's a three day week kind of full body type routine. That's how it's kind of broke down. And you know, it's funny. I remember learning a little bit of this lesson years ago when I first started squatting.

Before I learned how to squat, I would do leg press, hack squat, leg extension, leg curls, other various leg machines for my lower body. When I learned how to squat, I learned how to squat from power lifters that worked out in the gym that I worked out at. And they told me literally, and I listened to these guys,

because here I am, I'm a kid, and here are these guys with massive bodies. They're all muscular, and they're all really, really strong. And they're like, yeah, just don't do any of those exercises anymore. When you come to the gym, just do squats for your legs. That's all you gotta do. Just do squats, do five sets, or eight sets.

Some days I do 10 sets of squats, and I literally gained that summer, something like 12 or 13 pounds of lean body mass. And I was my first lesson in the fact that not all exercises are created equal. Some exercises are far, far, far superior when it comes to building muscle and building strength. And that's what a routine like this is. It's a very, very simple, basic template.

I'll tell you this right now. Strong lifts, five by five is superior to 90% of the bodybuilding muscle building routines you see on Instagram. That's for sure. That are way more complex or whatever. I first heard about it from Pavel actually. And he was the first to introduce me to that.

And like, as I even adopted that same principles and those same concepts into the new form of what he's, I think it's through strong versus his new company, but literally it's just like foundational principles that apply, but for us, I think that we just, we need to build off of that. We need to keep you ahead of the plateau and ahead of the adaptation process.

So this is something that everybody, I feel, will get benefit from it because it is. It's a foundational way to build strength. It is. Some of the drawbacks to it is it's super anterior, you know, playing type workout. You're not doing it. That's a rotation.

You're not working on other parts of the body with stability. And so if you just did these kind of lifts all the time, you'd be better off than not, but you could potentially develop imbalances. That's a great point. And your body will adapt very quickly because you're doing five sets of five reps all the time. There's not a lot of phasing involved. Well, and this is too, I mean, this is why the collective ideas of our backgrounds

are unique because that was what I was always addressing was the movement patterns that didn't exist within the training modalities I saw. And so that was always a big, missed step that I felt like I could fill holes with, in people's programming, and to add rotational elements, to add different

multiplanes to consider. These are all important factors when now structuring something that can apply beyond just, I grew muscle, but now my movement is considered as well. Well, it's also, I remember when Sal first sent me over MAP's Antibull get to look at it. And part of the brilliance in it was that this, you know, protocol is what the first phase was. And I remember at that time, I was putting that together

with my own clientele base, realizing that this is something that most people neglect. Because there's so many studies around eight to 12 rep range being the best rep range for building muscle. That's widely known that if we take people, all the same people and we measure them just for four weeks and we say, what is the best for hypertrophy? Oh, we find out that it's this eight to 12 rep range. And so that has perpetuated, that information been perpetuated in the fitness industry and now everybody gets stuck in that.

And so I know that most people are training either in the eight to 12 or I had a lot of my female clients that would lean 12 to 15 because they don't want to lift heavy weight because they're afraid of getting bulky. And so making my clients train in this five by five or this strength type of phase was actually, I was finding was the most beneficial for a majority of the population.

And so when I remember opening up the maps program I thought, oh my God, this is gonna get so many people right away because when they go through phase one and it's exactly what we get, what do people always say? They purchase maps in a ball like, and then they're blown away. They're PINPR.

Oh, blown away? They're blown away by it. And it's really, it's not that it's magical. And there's nothing so special about the exercises that are in there. It's that they are. They're the five best exercises that you should be doing are included in that routine.

It makes you train in a strength phase, which a majority of people tend to neglect unless you're a strength athlete. And so we see these people just explode and see incredible results from it. But like you guys are saying, the biggest knock that I have is the same knock that I have for any protocol,

which is getting stuck in a protocol. I mean, that is the brilliance behind maps is that every one of the programs that we've created includes two to three to four phases in it. And that's the idea is that no matter how awesome or amazing a protocol is, the importance of phasing in and out of it so that you don't get the drawback

so it would be staying in it for a very long time. And the common ones with five by five, and I know this from my experience, not only with myself, but clients, this is where the aches and pains tend to happen a lot. Oh yeah. Right, joints start to get all achy and stuff because you're lifting heavy weights,

and you've been doing that for months on end, and that's normally the first signs of you been in this phase too long. Yeah, I mean, if you're doing a routine like this, and you've been doing it for three, four months, just changing the exercises even, we'll start to get your body to progress again. I mean, an important point that needs to be made

is, you know, if your nutrition is adequate, so it doesn't have to be perfect, but if it's adequate and you're sleeping and you're sleeping as adequate and you're otherwise healthy, the right exercise stimulus will get any body to change. Okay, let me say that again. The right exercise stimulus will get any body to change. That's a fact. So, consider that.

If everything's adequate, you're doing the kind of good and you're otherwise healthy and you're working out and you're just not, you're not progressing, you're not getting stronger, your endurance isn't going up, you don't find yourself improving, you don't find yourself building more muscle or maybe burning a little bit of body fat. Look at your workout, your body, it's just not sending the right signal and it could be that you're completely adapted, and that signal has lost its luster. You know, when you first send a new adaptation signal with a workout to your body, when it's the right one,

it's a very loud and bright signal, and the body looks at it and says, Hey, we need to change. Let's do these things. Let's get stronger. Let's build muscle. Let's burn body fat. If you continue to send that signal over and over again,

your body essentially gets used to it, and that signal becomes less loud, more and more dim, and then over time it just becomes enough to maintain. And sometimes, if you really stay hard-headed with it, you can even start to regress because that signal is no longer even loud enough to maintain what you've built. So it's extremely important to understand that you need to change things to get your body to change. But truth be told, I tell you what, I could pull 90% of the workouts on the internet, 90% of the workouts at Instagram, fitness models, and celebrities promote.

It's a basic, four exercise program like Stronglifts, we'll beat them. It'll honestly beat them. Yeah. And again, our maps programs is based on, you know, some of these principles of not only simplicity, but then of course, in the complexity and how you program that simplicity

to keep the body progressing. But this is, I mean, there's very few programs that people will say to me, hey, what do you think of this workout? And I'll reply and be like, oh, that's a pretty good one. There's this one, starting strength is another to me, hey, what do you think of this workout? And I'll reply and be like, oh, that's a pretty good one. Yeah. There's this one starting strength as another one where people say,

hey, what do you think of that? Like, it's a good workout, it's a good program. Um, conjugate method. Yeah, yeah, you know, and then some of the, you know, the powerlifting type routine for powerlifters. Yeah, those are really, really good. Um, you know, they tend to be good like West Side barbells got a routine.

Even Lane Norton has a decent program for programming, but again, if you look at it and compare it to these other, you know, jump on the box and kick your leg this way and you also look crazy, you look, oh, this looks so simple, but it actually works. So, you know, but again, this is a routine, this is probably one of the first routines that I did as a kid that I found to be effective, or at least something

similar where I'm like, holy shit, my body. I'm not changing my supplements, I'm not having to change my nutrition. I'm getting stronger, like what the hell's going on? And then it kind of opened my eyes, like, oh, the workout is one of the most important things you can do in terms of getting to get your body to change. Next question is from Get Fit with Miranda. What order would you suggest doing the maps programs for someone trying to lose fat and build muscle?

Now this is a very basic question. And the reason why I picked this one is probably one of the most common questions. It's like 99% of people probably come in with this question. Yeah, I get this question all the time. And it's been a long time since we've really kind of broke down where you'd want to start with the maps programs and how you'd want to kind of progress them. If you have some experience working out in the gym,

then the classic way that we recommend people start and progress is you start with maps in a ball deck, which is a very, very good foundational strength muscle building metabolism boosting type of a program. You're going to be doing lots of dead lifts and squats and presses. You're going to be perfecting those exercises. You're going to work through different phases where you're training for maximal strength and then more towards hypertrophy.

And then at the end, you're going to be doing more of this higher rep, you know, type routines. We're trying to get a good pump and you're building a lot of strength and endurance. Then you'd want to progress to maps performance, which is a very different type of routine. It's very different from, you know, the some of the other programs that we have, but we'd I'd we all agree that that's the, probably the best progression for maps and a ball, unless your goal is very specific like body building. If you're just body building, then you could probably go to maps aesthetic or something like that. But for most people, maps performance, after you do maps and a ball, maps performance is going to get

your body to move better. And you're going to be able to do more multiplayer. That means you're going to move in different directions, type exercises. And as a result of that, what you're going to find is you're going to get more balance to your body. You're going to build more strength balance. And you're going to build a body that's more resilient to the workouts we'll be doing later on because mass performance we designed to build this kind of functional athletic type of performance. And of course muscle building fat loss is always at the top in terms of priorities.

Then from there, maps aesthetic, which there's more of your body building routine. And that's high volume. That's much more high volume. So your workouts are going to be a little over an hour, a few days a week, and then another two, three days a week, you're doing these shorter workouts where you're really just sculpting and shaping your body. Most people, that's their favorite part of the cycle. When they go through this kind of three core program cycle, their favorite part is maps aesthetic because it really is, I mean, it's the most individualized. It is.

And it's also the most narcissistic, if you will, in terms of like, oh, I get to focus on like, how I look. I mean, I get to sculpt my body. And then from there, I mean, you can go a whole bunch of different directions. You can go map split if you want to go hardcore bodybuilding. Personally, you know, the sleeper program out there. Strong. Map strong. That is a lot of fun. Doug recently did map strong. And I saw his body change with map strong more than I'd seen in a long time with that program. When I went through map strong, I went through and tested it because it was our new program that we had created at the time. And I was surprised that the aesthetic benefits, I was like, I think there's two major reasons for that. There's a lot of reasons, but I think there's two major ones.

One, we pushed a rep range in there that probably 90% of the people listening never go to. So it comes out phase one, the opposite. Right out of the gates. Yeah, right out the gates in a 20 rep range. Like who trains in the 20 rep range? So again, making people do something that they don't do a lot is probably going to send the loudest signal

or give them the greatest adaptation, right? So I think that is a big, and then how unique the movements are. Yeah, they're all, I think. Stuff you don't ever do. Yeah, they're just match-ribbed deadlifts. Oh yeah, people aren't doing that. Oh yeah, circus press.

Like, I mean, there's doing carries. I mean, there's movements in there that are incredible movements that are, you know, the searcher deads. I mean, there's stuff in that program that most people either want. You'll be the only person in the gym. Yeah, that you've never done

or maybe you've never seen before. And again, because you're getting out of your comfort zone, you're doing these types of movements, I think those are typically, it's what I always say on this podcast. Typically, what we need to do is the stuff that we never do. And so we always gravitate to the things that we like and that we do most of the time.

And strong is probably, you know, performance and strong, I would say, are the two most unconventional, unique programs that we created that almost everybody that actually goes through it. We'll see really, really good change from probably the most challenging for the majority of people. Yeah. Because it's so foreign a lot of the movements in there, unless you've been doing that and you've had a coach or strength conditioning coaches taking you through these types of movements. And going back to like how Sal kind of laid it out, which I totally agree, however, there's sometimes where, you know, there's people I know are even more deconditioned than maybe it's not best suited to have them start. Even though we do have a pre-phase in Maps and Obalach, I don't feel like a lot of people

are even ready for that situation. And so, you know, the ideal situation sometimes for me is to direct them to Maps Prime, our Maps Prime Pro, to address whatever issues we can and build better patterns. We take them through that. Maybe they've never even lifted weights before. Maybe we want to go through maps anywhere and get something that's a little more of a prep in terms of learning how to move their body and gain the functionality of it. Now get into the barbell train, really focus on and the functionality of it now get into the barbell train, really focus on strength training, but the ideal situation is to start

with just focusing on strength training as the base. So we're focusing on. So I'll said that really well when he first started giving it laying out for a bit, which was if we're talking to the average person who has some gym experience already. But if you were to ask me to assess a majority of the clientele that I have,

then Maps Prime would be where you started. Right, fortification work out. Yeah, and the assessment piece. I mean, as a trainer and as a coach, and if I've never met you before, and you walk into my facility, and I start you, I'm actually starting you in Maps Prime. I mean, I'm going to assess your,

I'm going to go through the three zones, I'm going to assess your movement and then I'm going to build into whatever program or direction from that. So I'm going to definitely going to take you through prime and try and individual and this is what we always encourage all people to do through all of our programs is no one by any means is saying that this program is for these people 100% of the time. No, you guys need to learn to individualize all of the programs for yourself and the way you do that is through Maps Prime, is through going through the assessment process, seeing where where there is dysfunction, who since almost everybody has it, seeing where your specific dysfunction or breakdown is in your body and then not only addressing where there is dysfunction, who sense almost everybody has it, seeing where your specific

dysfunction or breakdown is in your body, and then not only addressing it, but then also learning to incorporate it into any and all maps programs that you go through. And I think it's good with prime as being the focal point for that, is because of the fact that we made it so easy to assess that individually. Like an assess, I can't do this movement. And I've gone through the protocol, and I've gone through the fortification sessions, and I'm still having like pains or difficulty gaining that mobility. So I really need to now dive deeper.

That's where Prime Pro you would go go or if these address those movement patterns and you've gotten better and you've regained functionality with that, now we move forward. Yeah, I think, you know, it's, when you look at a lot of programs that are designed online, it looks like someone sat down and said, okay, I want to make it like a really hard, or fun workout.

That's kind of what the idea is. When we create our programs, we're coming from a personal training standpoint. We need to make programs that don't work for this type of person. So what is this going to kind of look like? And then our goal with designing these programs is to give someone an option to try something different, but also work for their body all the time. Like, we do know that it's good to throw different routines and different programs at your body.

We also know that sometimes for the average person, certain workouts get boring, so you want to try something new and different. And so we actually wrote them in that kind of that order. I mean, I remember we wrote maps performance, you know, we could have very much easily written a, yeah, look at maps hit. We wrote a hit program high intensity interval trying to sold the most And we waited to do that because we wanted our audience to have a solid base before we throw them Into this high intensity interval type training type of a program We even put a warning on it. This is not a routine that you should just

Cycle over and over again because it's gonna damage your body at some point This is a program you throw in and out to maximize, you know, whatever fat loss for a particular period of time So when you look at our our workouts The the programming is really the main the main focal point and then afterwards We're gonna try and make it look good and all that kind of stuff So when you're when you're looking at the programs You can pick the one that's gonna work best for you. And then after you're done with that,

go with another one afterwards and continue and stay consistent. And as Adam said, figure your body out along the way. Ideally, and it's funny, one of my favorite things about our forum is everyone's so awesome we'll post how they've modified one of our workouts for their body. And I love seeing that because that means there's going to be some longevity in their workouts.

Next question is from Sarah shapes up. You guys have talked about how your metabolism can adapt to cardio. How much cardio will trigger these adaptations? Your body's always adapting. It adapts to one session of cardio. But I think what you're asking is, I have the generic answer to that. Yeah, the generic answer to that is it takes about two weeks.

So like when the studies will show that it takes about two weeks for your body to really adapt to cardio, string training is like four to six weeks. And that's again why we phased the programs we did in string training, because even that your body gets fully adapted to and then the progress slows down. And so your body's always adapting like you said,

so the return on cardio really starts to diminish. Really quickly. Very quickly. I mean, you get on that treadmill every day for two weeks straight, and by day 14, you're already seeing less of the results that you were seeing on days one and two. And so it happens rapidly in card again, why it's such a bad way to go after fat loss.

Because it only, and again, also why, you know, I saved that till the end of my prep. Like I held onto that as like my secret weapon that I knew if I only had a week or two left in my prep, I could ramp it up and I knew my body would respond to it because I hadn't thrown at it already. Had I done what I saw a lot of competitors do, which I think is silly, that have coaches that are putting them on cardio in their first week of their nine week or 12 week prep,

well, you idiot, you do that to them on nine weeks. Well, guess what happens when they're at weeks five, four, and three, heading in their show. Their bodies are not really seeing much change from that anymore because it's adapted. So when it's become so efficient at doing that, I want to throw cardio in there at the very end to really start to change and make sure that every day leading up into my show, I'm still seeing results. And that's why only you only see it in my routine the last two weeks of a prep. Yeah, I really think when you look at exercise,

you need to look at exercise as two different ways. One, how am I going to maximize my health? And then two, how am I going to set my body up to combat or at least to withstand the insults of modern life? That's what the two things you wanna look at. So number one for health, cardio is great for health. There's nothing wrong with cardio when you wanna improve your health.

Now you can overdo cardio, which is like you can overdo anything. But a little bit of cardio is gonna benefit your health. You're gonna get some endurance. It's good for your heart, it's good for your lungs. It's gonna actually help you with the resistance training when you're a little bit about, a little bit, resistance training. Again, good for your heart, good for your lungs. It's gonna actually help you with the resistance training when you're a little bit about a little bit.

Resistance training, again, good for your heart, good for your health, good for your muscles, your bones, your hormones. Resistance training also sets you up better for modern life in the sense that it tends to speed up the metabolism. So you can eat more and get away with eating more. And when I say modern life,

well, you know, modern life is, it's really easy to eat a lot of food because food is so accessible. So really look at exercise that way. Now if you want to avoid what your body adapts, you just got to keep changing your workouts. The problem with cardio is there's only so much you can, you can change. At some point it just becomes doing more right more more more the difference between the Stairmaster and the elliptical is not that big of a right right? It's not it's not as big of a difference as somebody who does a Bulk here different exercise. Yeah, somebody does a Bulgarian squat versus a barbell back squat huge difference right huge change huge difference in an Adaptation that you're chasing after you going from the elliptical over to the stair master, very minimal difference in

that and you're not going to see a great change from it. And so I'm glad you went the direction you went, Sal, because when we do talk, we tend to hammer cardio all the time. And it's just because of our experience and the way that most people use it. By no means do we think that doing cardio is unhealthy. Is it healthy for you? If someone came to me and said, Adam, should I do 20 minutes to 30 minutes of cardio every day? I like doing it, makes me feel good afterwards.

Absolutely. Those are all great reasons to do that. But if you come to me like 99% of the people that come to me and say, I want to make change in my body. I'm trying to make a step. I want to look different. I want to lose 30 pounds of fat and those are your things that you're desiring. Well, cardio is not the best way to go after it. In fact, it's one of the worst ways to go after it, and

it should be used judiciously. But if you're trying to be a healthy person, yes, absolutely doing 20 minutes to an hour of cardio every day at a moderate to low intensity, I think is a very healthy regimen to have in there, but it's not a great strategy for fat loss or getting in great shape. Yeah, I mean, the variables that you have available to you with resistance training are so many, and the variables can change the stimulus so much that it's, I can really circumvent my body plateauing with resistance training much, much easier

than I can with cardio, like we were saying earlier. I remember people would do that in the gym. They'd come in and they'd, today they'd do the elliptical and then tomorrow they'd do the bike or sometimes they'd do it on the same workout. I'd like to do 20 minutes on the bike, 20 minutes on the treadmill, 20 minutes on the elliptical. It's all cardio.

Like it's all cardio, actually, it's very, very little different. I mean, you're getting more variation and a little bit more of the, you know, circumventing adaptation than someone just sticks to one piece of cardio, but not that much more, just a little bit more, which it's entirely different with resistance training

where I can change the exercise and it almost completely change the stimulus. I can change the rep range, I can change the rest period, and it almost completely changed the stimulus. I can change the rep range, I can change the rest period, and it completely changed it. But I don't want people to be afraid of cardio. Again, we've hammered on it so much. Really, it's relying on cardio to lose weight

and keep weight off. And it's also just doing a whole bunch of it. Like if you have an hour, if you go to the gym and you have one hour to spend in the gym, approximately 15 minutes should be devoted to cardio. If you have an hour, if you go to the gym and you have one hour to spend in the gym, approximately 15 minutes should be devoted to cardio. 45 minutes should be devoted to resistance training. That's the ratio of time spent doing those activities for the vast majority of people.

Unless your goal is like maximum endurance, that's pretty much it. So consider that. Again, the vast majority of your time should be spent on resistance training and then a smaller percentage should be devoted to cardio. Next question is from Axe Handle 5606. What do you guys think of those shoulder posture corrective braces for someone that sits for long periods of time having to read or use a computer? Awful.

These things are crutching, you're crutching an issue. Yeah. I mean, for as far as for awareness is concern, like putting that on and knowing where your posture posture should lie and what that feels like, you know, that would probably be the only value I see in just like it's an example, right? I can make that argument. But that's me, I could do the same thing by as a coach, placing that in them in that position and literally like having my hands kind of guide them into that retracted position.

But yeah, as far as like having that as a continual feedback, I don't really see how I use for that in terms of them owning it and intrinsically understanding that's where they need to be. The problems with these things is somebody who has, let's say, forward shoulder, which is just like it sounds, the shoulders roll forward, and they sit at their desk and they notice there, you know, here's the common ones, like my neck will start to feel tight, because

what happens when your shoulders are forward, the muscles that pull the shoulders back and down are weak, and so other muscles try to stabilize your shoulder girdle, and that tends to be some of the muscles that attach it up at the neck. So people are like, oh my god, I have this neck tension and shoulder pain. So then they put one of these braces on, and what a, basically it's like a reverse bra. Like, squeezes your shoulders back and it locks into place, and you put it on. And then you'll sit at your desk and be like, whoa, my neck doesn't hurt me more.

It's an arb. Yeah, I feel, let's see what? It's an arb. Yeah, I feel it, say what? It's an arb. Oh, braw reverse, that's hilarious. It feels so good. Like I put this brace on, and now my shoulders don't hurt me more. And so then you're trying to argue with them

that it's a bad thing, they're like, no, no, no, when I use it, feel great. I feel so much better. Here's what's happening. The brace is putting you in a position that muscles are supposed to do, are supposed to put you in that position.

The muscles responsible for that, atrophy and weaken even further. So now those muscles get even weaker because you're relying on this brace. And so it'll happen over time, when you wear this brace, as you're gonna need to wear it longer and longer and longer to the point where you're gonna have to

wake up in the morning, put it on and that's it. And you won't have the capability of getting your body into that position. It's the doctor's shoals of upper body. There you go. It's exactly what it is. It's the same thing that people get shoe inserts because they have their feet pronated

or they've, you know, they've, and the doctor, and it's why I hate that when doctors tell people to do this to crutch a breakdown that you have because you've lost good connection to your feet. And so you then, and then you then crutch it by inserting something into your shoe and then to Salis point, you just weaken it further. And so it's the same exact thing just for the upper body. It's a doctor's shoulder of the upper body. And like Sal said, yeah, you're gonna feel good when you do it initially.

Why? Because you're putting yourself in the alignment you're supposed to be in. But your muscles are supposed to fucking do that. It's the same knock too that I have on a lot of chiropractors. You know, a lot of chiropractors that you go in, you see your chiropractors. Tempor, a lot of chiropractors, they, that you go in, you see your chiropractors. Temporary relief.

Yeah, they pop you into place and, you know, try, try debating with somebody or try arguing with a client. I mean, this was half of my career. I remember spending doing this. This is why it frustrates me and I'm so passionate about it. Is a client who had seen a chiropractor for years before I even got a whole of them.

And trying to tell them that they, just stop going to their chiropractor was, yeah, right kid. You know what I'm saying? Every time I go see my chiropractor, my back feels so much flying. Right, it feels so much better. Well, that's because he popped you back into neutral alignment knucklehead and you feel good temporarily.

But then what happens after a couple of weeks, you go right back into feeling like shit again and then feel like you need to see your chiropractor. No, what's happened is you didn't address the root cause. The root cause is you've got these underactive muscles that aren't firing properly and keeping you in that good alignment. And so then you have this poor posture that's causing stress on your body. And instead of addressing it, you're crushing it by using a tool like this. Look, it's no different than somebody coming up. Somebody coming up to me and be like, Hey, my head hurts all the time.

And I observe them during the day and what they're doing for half the days they're banging the head against the wall. So what I do is I walk over and say, I'm just a mass brain. No, I walk over to them and say, hey, put this helmet on. Oh my God, I feel so much better, Sal.

My head doesn't hurt as much. Thanks for putting the helmet on. No, no, no, just stop hitting your head against the wall. That's what's gonna fix it. So when you wear these devices, it's not only, first off, if you put one of these devices on and you notice that you feel a lot better,

that you could feel way better than that by causing, by strengthening the muscles that put you in that position. And it doesn't take a whole lot. You just gotta do certain exercises. Like if you had a program like Prime Pro, you could do certain exercises, practice them five to 10 minutes every day, that's it.

And over time, that will become your new natural posture. What'll happen if you wear a brace over and over and over again, is not, yeah, you'll get some temporary relief, but you'll actually cause your body to develop worse and worse imbalances. And over time, you're taking the job of those muscles.

Yeah. So therefore your body's signaling to those muscles that they're not as important. And so therefore, the resources aren't gonna make its way there. You know what it reminds me of? A great example. You ever go to like Home Depot

and you see the dudes who help people out over there and they're wearing the back brace. It's like a big wake belt on their body. Always. And they're like, oh, yes, oh, this protects my lower back. It's weakening, they're lower back. What they don't realize is the second they take it off, they're fucked.

They've increased their risk of injury. Not only that, but what happens by wearing that all the time is you weaken your course so much that after a certain period of time, you're now as stable with this belt on as you were without the belt on before. So now you're finding, oh shit, now my back's hurting again, but I'm still wearing the belt. Like what's going on here? Now you gotta wear it to bed when you have sex and stuff

because your back goes out. Well, sometimes you go so hard, you gotta put the chalk on. Sometimes my wife requests it. I don't know what that means. No, but it's a really good point. Another thing that reminds me of, it's funny when I used to work with a physical therapist in my studio, she used to tell me that one of the worst things for, because she used to work with a lot of elderly patients, one of the worst things for them was when their doctors would recommend that they use a cane or when they would use a walker. And she used

to tell me, listen, watch what happens now that they're using a walker. Watch how their posture starts to form around the walker or their posture starts to form around the cane. And things start, at first they feel better, but that things start to accelerate in a bad way faster and faster and faster because of the things that they're holding onto and they're relying upon. Whatever you rely upon, literally will become a part of your body. It's like, yeah, it's like an appendage at that point.

It is, it's, look, another final example, I've given like 10 of them, but final example. You know, I've worn shoes since the first day I walked. Now I'm at the point now at 39 years old, where if I took my shoes off and just walked around barefoot all the time, it fucking would hurt me. Ow! My shoes have become a part of my body.

It was funny, I was in Cabo. I'm so cinched. And I was walking on the beach, and there were segments of the beach where the sand was more coarse, and there were like shells and shit. And I'm like, oh, yeah. And it's like, I know why.

It's because I took off my appendage, which was my shoe that I live in all the time. So if you wanna have something like that, and you wanna always wear a corrective brace, start using one now and I promise you in five years, you're gonna have this thing on under your shirt all the time and then try to, try to look and cool when you take your shirt off in front of people. Yeah, hey baby, let's, you got my shoulder brace on.

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