Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 929: How to Work Out on the Road, Why "Warming Up" Works, Best Fitness & Health Books & MORE

Episode Date: December 22, 2018

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about go-to workout pland if you’re away from a gym on business or vacation, the benefit to "warming up," recommended books to educate oneself on health, fitness and lifestyle and the enviable pysical features they would love to take from their co-hosts.  Mind Pump SOLD on Pure from Organifi. (5:05) Sal takes his kids out shopping for Jessica. (10:27) Two ships passing in the night. Why Courtney doesn’t listen to the show. (11:43) Why the internet has changed the perception of how companies advertise. (13:08) Zwift, which turns indoor cycling workouts into multiplayer games, raises $120M. Is gamifying the fitness industry a long term answer? (17:53) The app world is a tough business. (22:39) Will fitness become a cultural trend, children becoming weaker, PRx making waves, the benefits of having equipment at home & MORE. (26:08) How building a network of people can allow you to pivot into other opportunities. The guys talk Body by Jake, Tony Little & MORE. (40:50) The evolution of plate loaded equipment. (44:45) The crazy things the guys would do in the gym for a female’s attention. (53:45) #Quah question #1 – What’s your go to work out plan if you are away on business or vacation? (59:16) #Quah question #2 – Is there something to warming up before a workout? (1:10:43) #Quah question #3 – What books would you recommend to educate oneself on health, fitness and lifestyle? (1:18:53) #Quah question #4- If you could have one feature from one of the Mind Pump hosts, what would it be? (1:27:28) Related Links/Products Mentioned December Promotion: Enroll in ANY MAPS Program and Get 1 Year of Facebook Forum Access for FREE! MAPS Starter – **2 Days Left for Promotion Rate! **Code “STARTER20” for $20 off at checkout** Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** PRx Performance **Code “MINDPUMP” 5% Off plus free MAPS Prime on orders of $500 or more** Jizz Out Skittles Commercial. - YouTube Zwift, which turns indoor cycling workouts into multiplayer games, raises $120M Zombies, Run! Children becoming weaker says research - News - University of Essex Pediatricians: No More than 2 Hours Screen Time Daily for Kids Body by Jake Tower 200 Complete Door Gym Full Body Workouts Fitness Exercise Soloflex Total Gym XLS – Universal Home Gym for Total Body Workout MAPS Fitness Anywhere Technogym | Commercial & Home Fitness Equipment The New Encyclopedia of Modern Bodybuilding : The Bible of Bodybuilding, Fully Updated and Revised – Book by Arnold Schwarzenegger How to Eat, Move and Be Healthy! – Book by Paul Chek Healthy Gut, Healthy You – Book by Dr. Michael Ruscio Easy Strength: How to Get a Lot Stronger Than Your Competition-And Dominate in Your Sport – Book by Dan John Movement Functional Movement Systems: Screening, Assessment, Corrective Strategies – Book by Gray Cook Michael Matthews Books - Amazon.com Dinosaur Training: Lost Secrets of Strength and Development – Book by Brooks D Kubik Genius Foods: Become Smarter, Happier, and More Productive While Protecting Your Brain for Life – Book by Max Lugavere Becoming a Supple Leopard: The Ultimate Guide to Resolving Pain, Preventing Injury, and Optimizing Athletic Performance - Book by Glen Cordoza and Kelly Starrett Supertraining - Book by Mel Cunningham Siff and Yuri Verkhoshansky Wired to Eat: Turn Off Cravings, Rewire Your Appetite for Weight Loss, and Determine the Foods That Work for You - Book by Robb Wolf Mind Pump Free Resources People Mentioned Paul Chek (@paul.chek) • Instagram Jessica Rothenberg (@thetraininghour) • Instagram Dorian Yates (@thedorianyates) • Instagram Arthur Jones (inventor) Dave Asprey (@dave.asprey) • Instagram Michael Ruscio (@drruscio) • Instagram Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness) • Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere) • Instagram Robb Wolf (@dasrobbwolf) • Instagram

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, so for 53 minutes we talk about stuff that has nothing to do with fitness and have a good time. And after that we get into the fitness questions. So here's what we talked about in the intro, pure. That's the first thing that we talked about was our new, the new, organified, pure product.

It's a neutropic, but also a gut health supplement. And we're all loving it. It feels pure. It's really good. We are sponsored by Organify. If you go to organify.com, forward slash mind pump and use the code mind pump, you will get a discount at checkout. Then we talk about adjustments kids

like the organify red juice. Nobody tell Justin it gives them more energy. Yeah, that's what's been happening. My kids like the green juice. And then we talk about interesting advertising campaigns online. Like that time Skittles did the porn ad or whatever. It was very vulgar, terrible. Yeah, we went over that.

Then we talked about Zwift. Hope I'm saying that right. Zwift. Zwift. Zwift. It looks like, what was that? It was like you're biking at home and your people are competing with other people online.

They try to make it like a video game experience. Yep, that's why we also mentioned Zombies Run and gamifying fitness. Cool, we talked a lot about the industry there. Then we talked about the weakening of children. Kids are getting weak these days. Studies are showing that they're pathetic. Their grip strength is what worse.

They can't do as many sit-ups. They can't hang from a bar as long. We're turning our kids into Jello. That led us to- She should start shaming again. That led us to talking about kids' weights and barbells, having equipment at home. And of course, we're talking about home equipment.

Why not mention the best home equipment company on the planet, PRX. They're the makers of the famous fold out rack that really leaves you with tons of room, but you can fold it out. It's very stable. You can do squats and overhead presses and bench presses and dead lifts and all kinds of things.

We are sponsored by PRX. If you go to PRXperformance.com, forward slash mind pump. And if you use the code, mind pump, you'll get 5% off and a free maps prime program with the purchase of over $500. Then we talked about old school fitness gurus and the evolution of fitness equipment. Here's one for you.

Tony Little, remember him? Oh, yeah. Mr. Gazelle. Back in the day. Then we talked about negatives. These are the, this is a technique with exercise that gets you super sore. We also talked about strip sets.

This is where Justin loses a bet and has to get naked and work out. Uh-huh, every time. And we talked about the dangers of showing off in the gym, even though Adam does it every single time he works out. Then we get into the fitness questions. The first question was, what is our go-to workout plan if you're away from a gym

on business or on vacation? Get more alcohol. The next question was, this person wants to know about warming up. Why is it that when they go on winter hikes, their hands and arms move slowly until they warm up? What is happening to the body when we warm up, and what's the difference

between warming up and priming? Next question was, what books do we recommend for educating oneself on health, fitness, and lifestyle? So we kind of go through a bunch of books that we recommend that we think are awesome resources. And the final question, if each of us could have one physical feature from the other mind pump posts, what would it be everybody wants Justin's calves? Also, I'm not giving them away.

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I'm really loving the fucking pure man. Are you guys still, oh, can I get some of that right now? Bro, we got tons in the, I'm gonna get some right now. You guys keep talking, I'm gonna get some. We need to get you nice and clear. Dude, you gotta get water too. Yeah.

Because now we don't have water anymore now that CrossFit moved out next door. Oh, do they take that out? It doesn't work. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. So now we have to drink bottled water, which I don't like drinking bottled water

because they found all the plastic particles in bottled water and I'm not trying to, you know, eat plastic anymore. Is Evian any different because every time I drink it, it tastes different. Evian? Yeah. You know who is drinking Evian?

So is Dessani. You Dessani? I don't like Dessani. I love Dessani. Dessani is made by Coke. So you don't like drinking? He was dissonny. You dissonny? I don't like dissonny. I don't like dissonny. Dissonny's made by Coke. So you don't like him? Nope, nope. Be a heater.

Nope, you love Coke. You give Coke so much money. I do love Coke. Yeah. No, you know why I like Avion? One reason only. Why? I'm gonna sound like such a dork.

Paul check. Oh yeah, cause he very fine. He was drinking Avionny's like, this is good water. That's all I need to know. Right? Yeah, I mean. That's funny. Yeah, Yeah, he confer because that was always my favorite for some reason that and like Fiji But I actually like every on better than Fiji So I got the box of pure are you mixing it up? I am I dig it dude bro. I like it I'm not I mean legit feel it. That's why I went back and forth with them

And was like is there caffeine in this because I feel stimulated a little bit, but it's gotta be the lion's mane. It's gotta be the main thing. So you think that's the main contributor that lifts your mood. And coffee fruit extract has got some properties that are kind of interesting, but then it's got, I'm gonna read right now,

because I haven't done this yet. I'm gonna read the gut support that's included in here. So there's organic, Baeobab, I love that name. Baeobab. Yeah, it's supposed to be good for your gut. Apple cider vinegar. Now here's the thing with Apple cider vinegar. It's got some interesting properties.

It does seem to be beneficial for a lot of people's gut health. It is not a magical compound that you could do on everything with. That could do everything with it. That's my issue with it. It quickly becomes everybody's anecdotal go-to. Yeah, apple cider vinegar is like coconut oil. Like apparently, you break your bone and you could pour it on it.

You know what I mean? Rub some tessin on it. Yeah, you do anything with it. I love their ways to love this product, so it loves you back. What does it say? Yeah, it says that. W ways to love this product, so it loves you back. What does it say? Yeah, it says that. Ways to love this product, so it loves you back.

Directions, add one serving of two, eight to 12 ounces of water combined with your favorite beverage of choice. Enjoy in the morning, around workouts between meals, and anytime you desire a boost in focus and hydration. Mm-hmm. Love you back. That's pretty smart, we're learning that. Yeah, I love yourself back.

Now they've done an incredible job. Dude, it's pretty fun to watch this company. I'm, they impress me. Oh yeah, they're back. That's pretty smart. Love yourself back. Now they've done an incredible job. Dude, it's fun to watch this company. They impress me. Oh, yeah, they're back. They really impress me. But anyway, I'm sold. I've been having one of these every single morning, every morning, especially if I'm fasted, then I feel more of a use of it as a difference.

Like I did like it initially the first few times, but I didn't really feel that substantial. But now it's, you know, multiple uses has definitely made a difference. My favorite part about what Organify is doing is they're making these little individual packets. They started it with just their green juice, but now they have the purers done that way. So it's the gold. Oh, they have gold now. Yeah, it just, this is how, so Katrina to keep some in her purse so nice Right, you grow carries a purse around so she carries all of them in her purse And so and you just kind of throw them in like a water bottle like this and shake them up

Which first is taking the scooper and then having to have a shaker to do all of it. It's a mess like You know, it's one lazy. Have we become It is kind of a bitch thing It's like a fruit juice kind of company. It's like a total artificial juice where it's like... High C. It's something like that, right? Suncash.

Yeah, but yeah, it's something like that where you pour it into water and it turns into like fruit juice. Anyways, why I bring that up is because I've actually converted my son to then at least go to the red juice and he loves it. He does that instead of asking for, not high sea, but it's one of those, you know what I mean? Where it's like, crystal light.

Crystal light, thank you. He used to, like his friends kind of turn them on to that and was like always wanting to pour that into water and I'm like, no. Oh. So now at least I was like well, why don't you try this and he really enjoyed it. Now, how is he act after the Red Juice?

Cause it's got rodeo on it, which is, I'm gonna give it to him in the middle of the day so he can see what happens. Yeah. But he does fine. He like, yeah, he gives him a boost of energy. My kids like the green, which is funny because it's green. Yeah. You know, harder to get kids to drink something green.

Unless it's fluorescent green. Yeah. You know, if it's like a vegetable green. Mountain Dew. Oh, you know what I did. This is what I did. The first time I gave it to my daughter is I mixed it up.

And what we do at night is we have this like sleep routine that we do at night. And we turn the lights way down and try and get everything real quiet. So it was dark. So I thought, oh, she's not gonna, you know what I mean? She's not gonna see that it's green. And so she had it.

She had it and then she liked it. And then I'm like, surprise! Surprise! You drink some vegetables. Ha! You drink something with this. My life is bunch of lies.

Yeah. Oh my god, last night, when did this episode air-dug? Is this gonna episode? This, okay tomorrow, I'm not gonna go into too much detail because I don't wanna give away the, but yesterday, you know, Christina Rice was in the studio hanging out and she came over

and had dinner with us and she wanted to do a podcast with Jessica, which gave me a perfect opportunity to take kids out of the house because they still hadn't picked out a gift for Jessica. Right. So I take them to the mall and you know how it's so sweet to watch my kids debate and discuss what they think Jessica. Yeah.

And you know what? I'm really impressed with them knowing her and knowing what would be good. And they want, I mean, we ended up walking around the whole mall because they had all these different ideas and stuff. It's so cute to see kids. Do you think they nailed it or what? I think they did, but you know, even if they didn't, you know, the thing about gifts from kids, especially when you can tell that the kid thought about,

like, thought it out. That's everything, yeah. Yeah, because you know, like, oh, you thought about this, you know, this wasn't just a gift card or something like that. So it's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun doing that kind of stuff. Are you not going to share with us or what? No, because it's going to err before we listen to it. Before she gets it. She actually listens to the show on like Courtney. So you could tell us every day whatever I'm getting for. So you know what's funny is of course, when we first started, I totally get that, right? But now that my pump has grown to the size,

it's crazy to me that she doesn't, because I would think by now Courtney's probably had multiple people either that she works with or people she knows that actually- Oh, it's happened already, yeah. I'm sure. So that in itself would peak my curiosity. Like if Katrina and like two of her girlfriends

started like some podcast and it's like totally something I'm not into, like they fucking refer makeup or talk about it or some bullshit. I would never want to hear. And I never listened to it, but then it got so big that I'm running into people that go, so yeah, there's been a little bit of a shift and it's not that she's listening, but she asked me questions about it constantly every day. And it's all mind-pump related before. It was just like, well, yeah, you,

but now it's my turn to tell you about my day and like my work. And, you know, it was always competitive. And I'm just like, okay. Also consider like the hectic life that she probably, she's a full-time nurse. Yeah. Two kids, you guys are like two ships passing in the night. Exactly.

You don't even have time to listen to our podcast after time. No, and that's the thing. Exactly. You don't even have time to listen to our podcast after time. And that's the thing. It's a valid point. And it's like not like she's gonna turn our podcast on in the car while she's driving the kids to school. You know, like she's not gonna do that. Thanks to Adam.

Yeah. So inappropriate. Whatever Mr. Lost the Swear In Game the other day. I do. I won, Dad. Oh man. How funny is it when Taylor has the conversations with us about like, you know, maybe you guys, he doesn't really say it like this, I'm paraphrasing, you know, maybe you guys should kind of,

you know, be careful with what you say, because you know, we're working with sponsors, isn't that? And it's like, I try to communicate them. The last thing you want to do, if you want us to go in a a direction is to tell us that's the direction we have to go because We'll run it up. I find myself naturally lies. Yeah, it's ingrained in our DNA or something. Yeah, I don't know It reverse psychology probably works best with us If you took us the size guys your show is a little too PC. We need to get a little more edgy Yeah, we'd be like excuse me. Yeah, you not. I'm not gonna say ramping up enough.

I'm not gonna say a bad word for the next five episodes. Yeah. I know. Screw you, man. That was never a driver. Yeah, I was like pleasing some big company. No, and you know what the irony of that is? Is that is becoming marketable?

Yeah. That quality now is becoming marketable. At least the perception of it, right? That, oh, those guys don't care, this company doesn't care, they just do. So now companies are trying to come across that way, which I think is kind of cool. And the internet allows a little bit more of that.

I remember, maybe it was three years ago, did you guys ever see those Skittles commercials that they made just for the internet? Yeah, you ever seen those at them? No, no. They were like seriously, Rancho. Bro, there's a guy and a No, no, they were like seriously, Ron. She bro, it's there's a there's a guy in the girl. It's their wedding night. Yeah, and I don't know what he's sex with her He's live. They're having sex literally having sex. It's a Skittles commercial. Remember Skittles is a major national brand

He stopped and see this and he goes, uh, and he basically jizzes all over her but it's kiddles, but it's kiddles I can't even there's no way I can see that without you never saw that no He does, he basically jizzes all over her. But it's Skittles. But it's Skittles coming up. Yeah. I love her. I can't even, there's no way I can say that without. You never saw that? No. How on the kettle black, you know, it's like, he was jizzing Skittles out of himself.

Yeah, and all over her face. Yeah. Are you kidding me right now? I swear to you. No, how amazing. How have we never talked about this before? This is two year, it's a two year old commercial. Well, he showed me that.

Do you have to Google sexual Skittles commercial? Yeah, it was, it's a two year old commercial. Well, he showed me that. Do you have to Google sexual skittles commercial? Yeah, it was the most inappropriate commercial, but it was a national brand made a commercial specifically for the internet. Wow. And that's the beauty of the internet, is that you could do that. Do you remember who, I don't remember anybody doing it

before acts, acts, did the dirty balls on YouTube, which was one of the most, that was a great commercial. Watch this, watch this, ready? You gotta start it from the beginning now. It's one of my favorite commercials of all time. Watch this. It's a cold new, no. What?

Watch, watch, watch. She's basically back, got her bent over. Shh. Shh. It's about to come, it's about to come. It's about to come. D over. Shhh. Oh, it's about to come, it's about to come, it's about to come. Oh, Dread. Faa. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Taste the rainbow. Oh my God. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah, that was the most how have I never heard of it?

Hey, it's there's probably 50 different people who've posted it on YouTube each one of my 100,000 views the original ones millions and millions of views Yeah, and this is and here's the thing. This is different about acts acts Built their business through that. Yeah, Skittles is already a national brand. Right, right. Definitely way riskier to do it if you're a skier. The internet sort of underground where they're testing things out. They can get a little more edgy. I remember that though.

Don't you remember that when there was this total, all this momentum to get on the Super Bowl and like get your ad in the Super Bowl, but then if you didn't make it, they would go a little bit harder. The other version would make it on the internet. And so, those actually became more popular. And then now everybody's wanting to see what they put on the internet versus what they

put in the Super Bowl. Think about it this way. Let's say you're a national brand, right? Let's say you're, think of a big national brand. I don't know. Goodyear Tires. And Goodyear Tires. We see a news article, an article that says a headline, good year ad, a Super Bowl ad band, Super Bowl decline,

they said they won't do. That's a free advertising. Everybody's going to look up. Of course. The ad that was banned, like the whole two girls one cup thing. That's right. I did not want to see that. Well, that's too far. Did you know he died a poor man? Good Mr. Goodyear. He died a poor man? Yeah, yeah. Wasn't until the generations later to they become... Have you heard a story about how he developed

that the rubber to make those tires? Yeah, they spent his entire... Everything. Yeah, and he spent his whole life developing it and getting to that point. And then it was like literally after he died, did the thing turn into a, you know, a bajillion dollar company.

I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna do that. I don't wanna do that. See it happened. Well, speaking of companies, did you guys see the thing that Jackie sent over? Jackie's on fire lately. By the way, I love it.

Jackie, when you send me stuff like this. Oh yeah! She sent over. Yes, the Zwift, Z-W-I-F-T. Say that again. Zwift. Zwift. Yeah. So you got to change her name. You think so? Yeah. Yeah,W-I-S-W-F. Zwift. Zwift. Yeah.

So you got to change their name. You think so? Yeah. Yeah, they probably just sounds weird over here, you know. Yeah. But they just raised 120 million. But I remember the first time, what it is, it's one of these cycling apps, but I can do it in my living room, watching TV, and hooked up to, I think, any sort of a basic

computer, and we can race each other. And you can do that with anybody all over the world. It looks really cool. Now, I remember the first time I went to a gym that had these bikes. And they, obviously, you weren't connected to the internet where you were racing anybody all over the world, but they had like four or five bikes and...

Different landscapes. Yeah, and then we all, all four of us could get on bikes next to each other. And like a video game, you know, and pick what map you wanted to do. Yeah, here it is, duh. And this is all at home. Yes.

And you're connected to other people. I'm not even a bank, yes, you're racing real people. Now, do you have to buy the bike? Do they have a specific bike that you buy? Or is it just a, I don't, I would imagine you would have to have some sort of a bike that's sending a, sending a,

well, this is brilliant. A connection to the, to the app. Oh, yeah, you got to buy the bike I think yeah, I'm sure you know that's brilliant. Oh, yeah, this is the first in my opinion There'll be another version where you can have a sensor another company will get even smarter than that. Oh, it's it's you put your bike on it It's just a little part that you would capture exactly now. Now this is brilliant because you don't have to buy a bike. That's even smarter. Yeah. Well, this is the first time that I've seen a viable way for people to for them to capitalize with technology in a way that I think this will work. I actually think something like this will work. Well, yeah, just taps into people's can think it is working. It's killing it. I mean, it just raised another hundred and twenty million. Where's the base that I've always seen this people's capital. It is working. It's killing it. I mean, it just raised another 120 million.

Where's the base that I've always seen this in the video? It's not, it wasn't originally here. Fitness combo. That's always been ready to happen. It's just people have created a lot of lame versions of it. So it's nice to see, and that's the thing. You need that interaction for it to make sense. So it's all dependent on what kind of platform

you really create with it right it's a European based company it's making its way over here that's what yeah this is what you see that in zombies run like that's as it was one of the most popular apps of all time what was that fitness wise so it basically zombies run it's a video game where there's narrative and there's all this storyline along with it. And so you put your headphones in when you go out and do your jog or whatever. And based off of whatever mission it's telling you to go, like you would increase your intensity, you run faster, you run slower, you get all these points,

it like it all makes sense in terms of being able to save people from places where they're captured by zombies or about to get attacked or they gamified running. They gamified the entire process and did it in a way where it was like I could actually place on PlayStation or something and it would feel the same. It's just all narration in my head. You know what I hate about the one thing that irritates me about the industry a little bit is that and this isn't just because of the industry.

It's just people. As long as I've been in the industry, you get these trends that up and down. Zombies run great, and I bet you stop people stop using it because they're bored, and the next thing, and then it's like, we always have to trick people in the exercise. You know what I mean? Yeah. You know, I'm torn, right? Like, I...

I mean, it's good thing. No, right, that's why I'm torn. I'm torn on, like, I mean, of all the bullshit and crap that we sell and buy and we put out into society, I feel like these have at least a positive thing, right? Like getting people to get out there, but again, to your point, Sal, you know, they all are intensity type based things and they're all short lived.

It's not a long-term answer. Yeah, I really feel like there's an awesome version of this that will make sense that we'll incorporate a sound mindset towards fitness and health, but it's not, there's gonna be ones like this that are tools to kind of lead you in that direction, but there needs to be somebody that sort of incorporates intermittently like, okay, challenges,

for instance, or things like that. Like those work, like people get behind, like, competitions every now and then. It's just being dependent on that is not a good. I want to see something that is able to incorporate resistance training. It's just the problem with resistance training is it's so not basic.

You know what I mean? Like, running is run. Well, I mean, the app that Justin Justin I were building was designed that way. It was designed that it would it starts you off very basic. And as you move up the levels, the the workouts become more difficult and more challenging.

What a monster. Yeah, definitely a monster. I have no desire to do that. I should anymore. Especially when you say what happened with sucks if you're somebody who has this dream and not to shit on anybody's dream right now

that is wanting to get in the app world, but you know, you put all this money, time and investment into creating this brilliant idea that you have. And of course, you wanted to take off. And if it does, you're not even out of the woods yet. Because if it's taking off and exploding, your biggest concern and worry is that's a big company, like Capcom or what's the one that owns Zenga

and all the other big ones, I forget the name of the, but there's like a handful of like Bohemoth freaking app companies that own like hundreds of apps, and that's what they do. They just shop and look for apps that are on the rise that are awesome, and they either want a blizzard or so.

They either want a choir the app and buy you out, which is what your probably your dream is if you're creating the app, is that someone actually picked you, or they fuck you and they reverse engineer it. Again, there's no trademarking on that stuff. Anybody can come in and basically take your concept, throw a couple different skins on it,

change the name of it, and literally, and then they have the marketing power because they're a billion dollar company, and they already have the network of people that already have, that hundreds of their apps already, that they can easily push it out and get it caught up to where it's just. That's why I always laugh when you see these app companies that like you know Facebook

offers someone so one billion dollars and they decline. I'm like idiot. Yeah. That was your moment. You should have sold because they're totally going to fuck you now. They're going to come up with their own version of it. Right. And screw you over.

Yeah. The app world is a tough one. The app, the two things that I hear the most, especially on my Instagram when I do my Q&A's and people ask me questions, like business related, I get lots of questions around the app and I get lots of questions around a t-shirt company. And I feel bad every time I tell somebody to squash their dreams, is that terrible ideas, man, just terrible ideas, I'm sorry. And I think a lot of that's perpetuated by the Instagram world

right now, because it seems like every fitness person that's their dream is to either build up a following large enough tour they can even pivot into selling t-shirts or pivot into an app, the fitness app, where they, and like it's like, dude, there's a million of those that everyone's doing and there's not a lot of it. There's a reason why you see so many of them.

You know what I mean? It reminds me of like, there's no money in tool apps. You know what it reminds's doing and there's not a lot of it. There's a reason why you see so many of them. You know what I mean? It reminds me of life. There's no money in tool apps. You know what it reminds me of? No. It's like how many people do you know, especially maybe now too, but especially pre-2008,

how many people do you know that went and got the real estate license? You know what I mean? I got a real estate license. I can sell real estate. I can say everybody. How many of them are actually successful, small percentage. You have this flood of people getting licenses

to do something because they saw other people being successful and thought it was easy. Well, it's funny, I remember even with .com when that first came out or just the, buying the address in the domain was a thing. And like they kept promoting it even on the radio that like, oh, so and so, bought whatever .com, like Disney.com and then they had Disney had to buy it off of them

because they were the first to get it. That should have sailed. I just couldn't believe that that was such a frenzy that people and then it became this big loss. Nobody was making any money that wasn't already established company. It was silly. Yeah, that's stupid. I hope at some point we figure out a way to really get people mainstream to exercise

on a regular basis and it becomes a cultural phenomenon. I always wonder if that's possible. We had this kind of little debate back and forth that I wanna be optimistic with you, but I'm more of a realist. I think I know, I'm not know, I have an idea of what I think could cause it. Do I think that what I think's gonna cause it will happen? It has to be a real cultural shift.

It really does. If you look at societies that are active, it's part of their culture. You know what I mean? It's part of their culture. It's the way their cities are designed. It's the way that their lives are structured. Like there's some cities in the world that you can't help but be active because it's not designed for you to not be active. Like you can't drive in certain cities. You have to walk everywhere. Or in certain cultures, it's a part of what you do when you wake up in the morning you do Tai Chi or your job has your work has you exercise. You know in Japan a

lot of companies and I don't know if they still do this but there were a lot of these kind of old school companies that everybody got there at the same time and then they had the whole company up and do calisthenics and exercises together. Well that's where I see stuff like this. I would really love to see that be like the first step in that direction. So you could take the competitive angle because everybody always does that with companies like,

well, this year we're gonna shoot for this goal and everybody's gonna rally and we're gonna acknowledge who the leaders were and whatever. But now you take that and you implement it in through better practices, whether it's mobility or it's like things that they can do intermittently throughout the day, better food decisions, things like that, we're rewarding people

for making better decisions initially. And then hopefully we get some adoption of that process along the way. Yeah, I was, who was I talking to? I was talking to somebody who works with children and who's been working with kids for like 30 years. And she was telling me that kids are just, are so much weaker, physically weaker today

than they've ever been. Just because they, because the culture has shifted. This is what I mean by that. weaker, physically weaker today than they've ever been. Just because the culture has shifted. This is what I mean by that. You shared a stat, maybe a year or more ago that I remember in regards to that, when they measured the grip strength, and they measured it of something like,

I can't remember, I know I'm gonna crucify it right here. It was the grip strength of a teenage boy right now is weaker than a 50 year old man, just like 10 years old. I got some stats for you. I got some stats for you. And these stats are from 2008, so it's worse today, much worse. So a study that was done at Essex University found that and they took 315 10 year olds

and they compared them to 309 kids who were tested in 1998. So it's a difference of 10 years, right? 98 to 2008, here's what they found. The number of sit-ups 10 year olds can do declined by 27% between 1998 and 2008. Arm strength fell by 26% and grip strength fell by 7%. While one in 20 children in 1998 could not hold their own weight

when hanging from wall bars, one in 10. So double could not do the same thing. So that was 2008. It's gotten, and it's much worse. 10 years, yeah. It's funny, dude, and it's, obviously it's not, and you know what pisses me off about this, is what's gonna end up happening is,

people are gonna end up blaming this on genetics, like they did with obesity. Like all of a sudden, it became, oh, you know, obesity, it's genetics, and your parents overweight, they're for your overweight, they're sat in the other, and scientists it became, oh, you know, you know, obesity, it's genetics and your parents overweight, they're for your overweight, they're set in the other and scientists were like actually 30 years ago, there weren't that many overweight people not today, everybody's overweight. It's the same thing with being weak. It's not genetics, it's just an activity because I know this, I know when I train my kids outside, when I take them in the garage and take them outside and do exercise with them,

I see their strength improve considerably. Like I'm having my son push the sled here and there, and already I'm having to add, I mean he's 13 years old, 13 year old kid, especially a boy, if you train them with resistance, they get strong very quickly, especially in comparison to doing nothing. And so that's what these experts are finding,

and this is what I mean, I have to be a change in the culture because kids aren't weaker today because they're not working out like they used to. Kids that don't work out before, they just, it was a part of the culture of being a child was that you played and that you were active. And so in order for us to get the average person

to exercise, it's gonna have to be a part of the culture. It's gotta have to be a part of just their life. And I don't know, that's a very difficult, you know how hard it is to change a culture? That's a very difficult. Well, it has to start with the kids, like Justin alluded to the other day that we've had this conversation is,

it's gotta be something that we begin to implement into our children and they develop that way because trying to move it now or change it now. I mean, even us, I mean, I called us out on it. We're a fitness company and it's not like we get the staff all together an hour before work starts and we all do cows. I mean, how great would it be if we all did, what a perfect world if we all did prime,

you know, for prime pro, for the first half hour, our work for all of the more. Everybody, yeah, I mean, fuck, it would be a game changer, but even ourselves, we don't do that. Now, we, I think everybody in our team were a dispersant in its a priority individually, but we don't bring that in as a culture.

And what's crazy too is the study that I'm talking about, the scientists thought that the kids would be stronger because they were taller and heavier. So, and kids are getting taller, gradually over time. They still have a calorie increase. Nutrients, and also, you know, we trend in that direction

because people, taller people consider more attractive. I think it's part of it. The other part of it is, you know, we're able to do more C-section, so, you know, if a big baby is survived and all that stuff, there's a lot of theories as to why that's happening. But they thought, oh, they're taller and heavier, they should be stronger. And they're actually not. They're a lot, you know, they're a lot weaker. So it's, I don't know, it's crazy.

We'll see what happens. I think we've gone through the evolution in the generation of obesity that's exploded. We kind of were in the middle of that, right? The next generation is probably going to be the evolution of weakness, like lack of mobility, lack of like poor posture, pain and dysfunction as a result of those types of things. Part of my training with my son is training his shoulder mobility because we were doing some basic pushups and stuff and his left shoulder was bothering him.

He didn't hurt it from being active. It's hurt because he doesn't have decent mobility because of the amount of time he spends on his computer. And so now I'm doing correctional exercises apart of it. And it's like, wow, this is kind of getting at a hand with the kids around us. I was reading another article where they were saying,

you should limit your children's electronic time to like, forgot what they said, eight to 10 hours a week. That's a lot. That is a lot. That's a lot of electronic time. It's really not, in my opinion, because a lot of that has shifted from straight television watching.

When we were kids, we used to watch cartoons after school or you would watch your favorite Friday shows. And so, you know, easily as a kid, I was watching two hours a day, easily of television. So that would be 14 hours. I think that- I think they were referring to not TV. I think they were referring to the other electronics. But I think you see what you're pointing at.

No, that's my... I think that the kids are not really watching. I mean, I don't know. You guys have kids that don't have kids, but do they tend to sit in front of the TV very much? They probably went through their phones, right? They do that when I tell them the girls computer. Exactly.

That's like a backup plan. Right, so that's my point. So I think the time that we were at our generation was spinning in front of the, you know, quote, unquote, boob tube, right? That was going to melt our brain. You know, we were sitting in front of that. That kids have evolved beyond that. TV's boring to them.

So now they're on YouTube and on their phone or tablet. Well, it's interesting. We're bringing up training and training with kids and all that. Like, I brought it this up quite a while back. I think that I was interested in finding the kids these little kid version of a barbell. And so there's PRX actually now has these junior barbells. Oh, really?

Yeah, really? They do. And so I actually, I just ordered them for Christmas for the kids. So what are they? They're just smaller lighter barbells? Yeah, just smaller lighter barbells shorter. You know, pull them up on the TV on the TV series.

Yeah. So I just thought it was a great way that I could at least start to teach the skill of barbell movements, even if I have eight and a five year old, but I mean, they don't weigh. I think it's, I'm trying to remember what weight. It's like 15 pounds or something like that, but I thought it'd be cool because then they also have

these sort of foam weights that you can get as well. And foam weights. That's brilliant because you're right. Teaching kids those mechanics. How do you deal it without a barbell? I use a broomstick, but a broomstick might even be too light, you know, to use. That's trying to find it right now.

Yeah, do you know what's called a junior? Oh, it's called junior? Yeah, look up a junior. Yeah, let's look that up. How are you? What, did this new? Did they just start doing this? Yeah, this is one of their new products

that they just love PRX. I can already tell how much their websites evolved since we started with them too. Are you still, how often are you still using your rack? Is that all where you do all your workouts, Justin? Yeah, it is. It is where I do all my workouts now. It's crazy. And I told out on the other day, like I invested in more weights, which, you know, I was cool with the amount of weights I had. It kind of got the job done, but I found myself just doing reps and then kind of getting into the maintenance end of training.

And I'm like, oh, can you do like press it a little bit more? And so I just got some more 45s and I cannot stress there. It is right there. How much? Yeah. Click that off. So I can read that. It says to 10 kilogram polished steel 25,000. Yeah, well perfect. Yeah, that's I'm gonna buy one. I'm gonna get one

and you said they actually have like really lightweight to and then are they bigger or they like the wheel like the big size so that's like they're pulling the real. Yeah. Yeah. So it's so cool. Yeah, I'm gonna get that for my, so smart for my boy. Yeah, I love it. They're constantly bringing on new things too. Like I just got a, for myself, I got a landmine attachment. And they also have like a cable pulley attachment for the squat rack.

So I could actually do some like lot pull downs, try some extension. Oh yeah, that's worth it. Right, and I didn't know that was a feature. So it's like, they're getting smart with like these options to add onto it. So it's pretty cool. Like I really like that I put my investment there and now I can keep updating and refreshing my experience

with it. Well, their library of stuff is really comprehensive. Well, yeah, that and it's evolved. It's much bigger. You know what they have now too. So I didn't know this for know what they have now too. So I didn't know this. We're also would have directed people here when Danny did the videos. He did some videos with the the what do you call those just in the knee band or the thigh bands or whatever the hip circles the hip circles right those bands that he has around his knees.

We were getting tons of emails Cassie was like freaking there. They are right there. So the mobility bands and stuff. So they actually sell these now too. So those are the, they've watched the two Timbuck. Watch the YouTube and want to know a great place. Well, PRX company were affiliated with, we didn't even know that. They must be new. I don't remember seeing this when we first started with them.

No, I think they're just, they're asking their customers like what they can provide. And so I think they're just getting feedback and adding new products to feature on there. So, dude, I cannot stress enough, and I know we had this debate and discussion in the past, but I can't stress enough, man. Having some equipment at home, it's a game changer.

It's an absolute game changer when it comes to consistency. You know, be able to schedule my workouts when I want. You take out the time having to drive to the gym, having to deal with all that bullshit, especially coming up and you look at the January's around the corner. You know what the gym is like in January. You want to rip your eyebrows out of your face. You work at a home. We don't got to deal with that. So for me, it's a fucking, it's a absolute game-changer. And it's an outlet I've found useful for when everybody's sort of in a certain type of mood. You know, like I usually get a pretty gauge of,

okay, everybody's a little bit testy right now. Like it's all just pull the kids with me down to just play on climb or do something. Are you evolving that room at all or is it kind of like it's done or are you still like doing things to it? Yeah, no, I'm adding little things here and there constantly and I'm trying to like, I'm trying to make it more inviting, especially for the kids. So I have those little five pound dumbbell or kettlebells as well. And yeah, I'm adding things as I go because I just, I like the fact that they follow me down there whenever they see me go to work out.

So I want, you know, stuff for them to do. I also have this, it's funny, it's a body by Jake, which you think that guy's gone. He's like, that's like old news, right? Yeah. He came out with something a while back as called like the Tower 200, I think. But it's like this rack that goes over a door. And so you have like cable kind of feel to it,

these nylon sort of stretchy cables. So anyway, that's perfect for kids. They're doing stuff with that, which is pretty rad too. So yeah. Bands are really good with, band work is good with kids because it teaches them control too because when you're pulling the band, you want to let go. Like you ever train a kid with bands and they pull them back and they smile and go. Yeah.

So you got to make them slow down and squeeze and so I've been doing a lot of band work with the kids. I think that's a good. I did not know that body by Jake was still making moves, dude. Yeah. It just goes a few years ago, but it's still relevant. What a unique, this is something unique about the time that we live in now that if,

because we can connect to people, and if you do a good job of building a loyal network of people, it really allows you to do multiple business pivots. It's really, it's insane. It's a device that I give to a lot of people that reach out to me. I think sometimes people get so concerned about having this brilliant business idea or making it things so perfect. It's like, honestly, if you can just find a way to

provide value to people to where they want to hear from you or they want something from you, if you can just do that, and do that well, and consistently, and build yourself a network of people that have some sort of common theme, which, you know, body by Jake, obviously they're people trying to get in shape, whatever, so many avenues and different businesses that you can, you know, move into or pivot at any time. Well Jake did very, whatever's last name is,

did very, very well. Then there was Tony Little. Remember Tony Little? Yeah. Of course, the long hair. You know what his first workout program was? It was a, it was a, it was like a,

the Humping one? No, no, it was a workout video. I remember that one. You remember those? At 10 o'clock at night, you would see the videos to be like 12 hot chicks in like the onesies. My grandpa,

doing the thrusting thing. Yeah, I got caught on that channel a few times. My grandfather had one of those things. It was Leotards. Tony Little's first workout program was all just teaching how to work out. And I remember he would talk all about, it's about the technique, it's all about the form,

it's all about that dude is still selling fitness shit. He still has a massive brand. Then there was Body by Jake. Well, he pivoted, I thought to some kind of like, he would be a funny dude. Bison, it was like a bison company, like where you sell them bison meat. Really?

Well, he's got a nutrition store right there, Doug's got to pull it up right now. Maybe an interesting interview. He made it. No, that's, I just said, he made a ton of money. He was like one of the first to really kind of jump from cows to, you know, a different source that was like,

oh, there it is, right there. Yeah, I wanna. Party by bison. Yeah, bison. That's right. I wanna have them on the show. How old is he? He looks younger as fuck right there.

Yeah, he's probably old now. Well, he comes, well, you know, he's funny, he comes in, he looks nothing like that. He's like 65. This is old picture. You know, if his ponytail now is like, you know, like a hair extension. He's still trying to keep it.

He's attached to the hat. Yeah, exactly. He's still trying to keep it. It's attached to the hat. Yeah, exactly. It's the hat. It takes it off. Like, hey man, hold me. There was a solo flex. You guys remember the solo flex? Yeah, let's call it a commercial.

Solo flex was that sold so many units and it was all resistance. Was that both flex? Yeah, it's both flex. No, no, no, no, no. What do you mean? Solo flex was different than both flex. Well, who can, I think both flex? Yes, both flex. No, no, no, no, no. What do you mean? Solar flex was different than both flex. Well, who can, I think both flex came first. Nope, solar flex came first.

Really? 100%. Solar, 40 years. My favorite was, See, 40 years. Chuck Norris' total gym thing. Yep, then there was Chuck Norris' total gym thing. Just because it's Chuck Norris.

They've ever slid around on one, those are kind of fun. They are kind of fun, they don't do much for you. Yeah. No, you could do get a little workout on that thing. Not in a lower body workout. You get any weight. You get a little upper body workout. Absolutely.

I've done a little upper body workout on them before. Did you really? Yeah, no. You could do some very cool shoulder, chest, tricep, even back row stuff on it. You're fucked for legs. The legs stuff for legs. The legs stuff that they try and piss stuff. Yeah, you're pilates like pilates. See, and that row stuff on it, you're fucked for legs. The legs stuff for legs. The legs stuff that they try and put.

This stuff, yeah, you pull out, it's like pull out of your leg. It's always the issue, right? There's always gonna be like muscle groups that are like dog shit for some of these products. It's just funny because I learned very quickly that free weights was the way to go. So I'd see this kind of stuff on my bed.

I'd just buy me a barbell and a bench. And I don't need anything else and I'll do everything I need to do. That's all I had, that's all I had for a long time. My dad's backyard, we had a bench. I don't need anything else and I'll do everything I need to do. That's all I had. That's all I had for a long time. My dad's backyard, we had a bench, a barbell. That was it. Then of course, I had to do it. Well, you could argue that this is a result of the the the Nautilus wave, right?

I mean, the once when Nautilus came in and then machines became this, when they were originally designed for rehabilitation. I mean, that was the main purpose that you saw these machines were like for rehab. Well, and then they turned into like Nautilus, so the inventor of Nautilus was Arthur Jones and he was actually quite brilliant. If you look at Nautilus equipment, old Nautilus equipment, the engineering that he put into those was brilliant because before that, you know who the gym, you know, machine makers were?

The gym owners. It's like Joe Gold. He made a lot of machines that were in Gold's gym. Jack Lillane made machines for his gyms. Vince Garanda made machines for his gym. Arthur Jones is the, really one of the first ones to kind of commercialize it. And they were actually quite brilliant.

And they didn't use cable. Like now when we work out with selectorized equipment, it's plate, it's a selectorized, and then it's got the cable, right? Back then it was a chain. You remember the old, old, a Nautilus equipment? Yeah.

Take a bike chain? Yeah, and now of course they change that for obvious reasons. You get something caught in that thing. There goes your finger later. But some of that old Nautilus equipment that you probably won't find in gyms anymore, some of the best feeling equipment that I've ever had in terms of machines, because he did such a damn good job.

The next revolution of equipment came with plate loaded equipment, which was hammer strength. And hammer strength. Were they the first ones to do it? They were the first ones to... I don't know if they were the first ones to do it, but they were the first ones to really popular version. Yeah, because before that, you had free weights, and then you had selectorized machines,

and they were very excited. I used to be when I was like, you know, training in the off season, everything. I'd see a gym that had hammer strength equipment. I was like, yeah. Oh, I remember we got excited about that stuff too. You know who popularized hammer strength? Dexter Jackson.

Oh, no. What bodybuilder was a bodybuilder? Dorean Yates. Oh, Dorean Yates. Dorean Yates, I thought it was Dexter Jackson. Now, now Dorean Yates popularized the shit out of Hammer Strength and that's what gave it its credibility and then you found it in gyms.

And the reason why gyms liked Hammer Strength so much was that it was plate loaded. So you could use the same plates that use your free weights. Yeah, and you could throw it on this. And you could, you know, plus with plate loaded equipment, and their selling point was it mimic free weights, which nothing really, you know really is like free weights. But the strength curve was different.

So like when you do a press, like the shoulder press, the hardest part of the shoulder press was at the top where you're the strongest and it was later at the bottom where you were weaker. But a lot of people realized, not all of this did that first. Not all of us used different shaped cams to produce similar things. And some of the notautilus equipment had capabilities where you could change. One, two, or three.

Yes. Yeah, you had the tension at the end of the rep or you had the tension in the middle of the rep or you had the most tension at the beginning of the rep. Yep, absolutely. Those were, you know what, they really didn't, I feel like they didn't really explode that much. You didn't see them in normal gyms.

You could do those types. Yeah. Too complicated. Yeah. People had no idea what that was. Right, right. You know, it had to be very simple and basic. But till this day, the old Nautilus, for me, some of the old Nautilus machines are like,

the old Nautilus chest press, incline chest press. So basic, I have yet to do a machine chest press that feels as good as that one. Yeah. I think machines all in all have been amazing. I think what just happened was it became, it was so amazing that everyone started to gravitate towards that and we'd lost the love for the barbell.

And then, you know, barbell squats and deadlifts just fell out of favor. Like you, we went from the 80s of, you know, nothing but barbell squats deadlifts overhead press and the Arnold era of lifting and training barefoot and crazy and dirty, right? And then it turned into this machine war who could come up with the coolest, most creative machine to target the smallest muscle on your body.

And now you got pneumatic machines that use air pressure. Yeah, why didn't those... You know, Kaiser... I've seen it a long time ago, Kaiser. Yeah, I remember doing them. But they're not popular. Which is recently. Yeah, I tried my first one of those in San Luis Obispo when I was just at a high school, and I remember seeing them there,

like just really, they're cool. But I never saw them really take off. Now I know that all the Kaiser ones are like that. So I know it's made its way into the medical community. Well, medical and high performance, like sports-specific type gyms, really. You know, really? Yeah, because of the,

mainly for the eccentric portion of it, right? So they can kind of like control that a little more effectively. So it doesn't like, you know, they can get real explosive, but then it can sort of ease its way back. They're super expensive, is the big problem. Oh, and then there's the ARX machine, which is like ridiculously expensive.

Oh, that's the one that's on the screen filled, it's tied to, right? Yeah, I don't know if it's them, but I don't like that whole promoting, like one max out rep and then you're all done. No, it's our other buddy, it's the bulletproof guy. No, Dave Asperger, yeah, he's the one that's like, really behind that.

Really, I thought Ben, remember when we went to that? I think he's, I think he's tried it, but though Dave asked me. Yeah, he's the one that's like really behind really I thought Ben remember when we went to that he's I think he's field knows tried it But yeah, I think he's no remember ask me was like all I need to I only do 10 minutes of max out intensity workouts twice a week And I get all the benefits of resistance training Right and I remember when we interviewed him. I was thinking I like do you have any idea who we're talking to were we're trainers for 20 years Don't talk to us about that's one of them I thought I was so smart because I had a mechanized idea of like're talking to, or trainers for 20 years, don't talk to us about what's about. That's one of them. I thought I was so smart because I had a mechanized idea of like being able to control

that resistance and went all the way through the process of it and then found all the patents and then finally stumbled across their patents. I was like, oh shit, it's literally been done. Now there was one machine and I don't know, remember the name of it. It should come to me throughout this episode, but it was brilliant. And this is back in 19, I wanna say 96 or 95, when I first started working out in gyms as a kid.

And what it was was, it was electronic, so it was electronic resistance, probably use magnets. And you would set the weight that you wanted to do for the positive portion of the rep, and then it would automatically calculate a heavier negative portion of the rep, based on the fact that you're, I forgot what percentage stronger you were on.

Four to one, he's the magnet for that. It's four to one. Yeah, and so what you would do, they had a chest press, they had a leg extension, they had a leg curl, and they had a row, and I used used to love these machines and I would do them at the end of my workout And what you do is you let's say you did the chest press you push out at 150 pounds Yeah, and then when you reverse it was like 200 pounds You're like stabilizing it on the way back like crazy. Oh, it was so and now it took a while to get used to but it was so freaking

It was my idea, but like it was more Mechanized on the way back so you could control it from an app to get used to, but it was so freaking, see, that was my idea, but it was more mechanized on the way back so you could control it from an app. Let's say, you had that sort of all figured out, and then in the back, you'd have a machine that would basically apply that type of resistance that you'd have to really control and stabilize on this way back. Now, I've seen free weight adaptations that do that as well. Where you get under the bar to do a squat,

you lower down and then it automatically drops a hundred pounds and then you squat back up. But it doesn't allow you to do more than one rep. I've seen stuff like that before. Have you guys ever seen that? No, I have, that's cool. I want to try it. I almost want to experiment with something like that.

I just don't know how I would do that myself, but I've seen these things that you could put at the end of barbells that allow you to do that. And it's, there's a lot of value. And if you have the right spotter, if you have good mechanics, so it's yes. And loading the barbell up with a weight you know you can't get up,

but you, people don't realize it's a 4 to 1, right? That's tip that, obviously that's a generic number for most people, but you should be able to be able to handle four times the load in on the room. Is it four to one? Yeah, it's four to one, dude. It's crazy. Yeah, that sounds crazy.

It does sound crazy, but you should be able to resist. No, I wouldn't go straight to that. No, no, no, no, no, you don't need to do a full two time. Yeah, you would. Because people, because you also, as well as we train ourselves to do a good positive rep, people are terrible at a negative. Yeah. So imagine if I loaded your back with a thousand pounds

and you had to lower it, even if you might have the strength, you don't have to control, right? You'd be like, yeah, no, you would, I mean, let's say if you're somebody whom Max Squad is like 400, just you putting 450 or 500 on there. And doing a slow, slow as you can, descent. And then, you know, I would set the, what should I call it up? Safety bar up to then, you know, I would set the, what should I call it up?

Safety bar up to where, you know, I could go drop all the way down then, the safety bar would end up, you know, wrestling, that would be your goal is to, you know, descend as slow as you possibly can. And then just like, I remember when I was a kid, I thought, I would take all these high intensity techniques because it's, you know, kept getting hammered into me. That intensity was everything. Yeah. That I would take all these techniques and combine them.

You know what I mean? Like I would do a set, I would do a strip set with partials and then force negatives and then I'd squeeze it the bottom. Like, stupid. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like there was no purpose or rhyme or reason to do it

but I would combine all the high and static stretch in between your reps and everything dude I used to do weights I used to do partial reps at the end of every set like I thought oh I could do I could squeeze out more I could squeeze out more I could squeeze out more yeah, and then wouldn't build muscle And I don't wonder what the hell is going on just would hammer the shit on myself. You guys ever get caught I just this is a great story. I was at the gym and I was doing a bench press with two of my buddies. And rather than put a 45 on there, whatever, I was probably, I want to say I was 15 or 16. And so by this point, my max bench was something like 145 pounds, maybe 150 pounds. But instead of putting the big plates on, we decided we were going to

do like crazy strips at. Oh, all the tens. So we put, no, we use fives. Like we loaded it up with fives, because I wanted to make it as intense as fives. We just had an awful idea with chess, because dropping five pounds at your feet, you had to get all those from like the entire gym.

Oh, dude, collect it. We loaded this bar up with a bunch of fives, and then I did as many as I could, and then I had one guy on each side, and they a five off and I do a couple more and another five and I got all the way down here I am I'm 15 years old and the most important thing in the world to a 15 year old boy is to look cool in front of girls like there's nothing more important and there's nothing worse than looking bad in front of a girl like that's the worst thing in the plot.

So here I am. I don't know how many times we've stripped down the bar, but now I'm left with the bar and I'm shaking and quivering. And of course, I'm gonna do that today. With just five pounds on each side. After this podcast, we're gonna do that today.

Do we have enough tens? We might have not enough tens. And of course, at this moment, where I'm shaking and quivering and yelling and my friends are screaming at me, come on, you can do it, come on, daddy. A hottest girl in the world. Another in the world.

Yeah, like in my world. Walks, she walks to this girl I used to check out. It's 15 year old girl I used to work out. So she's my age. She's walking in and she's watching me struggle with the bar and sweat and scream. And so to make matters worse, you know, cause now I know as a grown man, confidence is,

you know, an energy, right? Cause what I should have done is just nothing. Of course, what do I do? As I walk over to him, I'm like, oh, I just did upset with all those weights that I explained myself, look like an idiot. Yeah. No, you don't know, I was struggling because of that.

That's the 97, 98, 99, 1000. You guys already saw, you guys already saw I was struggling because that's the 97 99 You guys are just some like Because it was a girl watching that not too bad. I like I never Well, you were in your 20s when you were lifting. Yeah, and I was in my 20s and in addition I was never I'd never maxed out. I never lifted really heavy. I was one of those guys that didn't do that I mean I rarely ever trained underneath six reps, man. I just, I think Justin lifted like that. Yeah, yeah, I think it's been a really, really,

a lot of work. I was doing an incline press and I remember like, I had, I think I had like 275 on there just because I was trying to be like cool. And there was a girl squatting next to me. And so I was just like trying to like keep loading and I had like a 10 on each side. I'm like, yeah.

And I didn't have a spotter. And I didn't, I forgot to put the clip on one side. And so I was coming up and then the 10 fell off. And then I was like, oh, and then so, you know, just your reaction, you kind of jerk in that direction. And then boom, the 25 comes off and then, oh no, then all of it, then, gushge boom and then I slammed all the weights I almost got a weight on her like because she was right I was mortified so I have pulled the asshole move of

and I to this day I still pull this asshole move when I know what I'm how I'm supposed to train that day like today is gonna be a light day or what I thought and somebody next to me, you know, and it's typically not a girl, it's typically a guy who's relatively my size is working out like a squat next to me. I'm squatting, he's squatting, she's a little gymnemesis. Right, we're relatively the same side.

I told myself today I was working on mechanics and controlled and gonna go light. And he's stacking the weights on you know And I'm just two two twenty five three fifteen four so then my ass all of a sudden my workout plan changes Yeah, I do do this asshole move Occasionally when that when that happen when it just so happens to be that Somebody who's relatively close to my size lines up right next to me. It's these days. It's more guy I'm with you on that. Yeah, back in the day it was about girls though.

I was like yeah, I'm trying to show all. I totally was not about it. The reason why, because like my girl, to this day, my girl's been left from forever. She still got to go like, how much weight is that? Yeah. She don't fucking know. You know what I'm saying?

They don't fucking. Girls aren't going like, wow, that's like 275. I can't believe that. They don't fucking care. My girl does. Yeah. Yeah. She noticed this exactly. I I can't believe that. Oh, fucking care. My girl does. Yeah, yeah. She notices exactly what it's like. I can lift more than that.

Yeah, I can see over there. Oh, I got it. Although she'll say something like, not realize it sounds condescending, she'll be like, but that's a lot of weight. I'm like, oh, come on. You say it like that, I even feel like that. I was like, yeah, it's good.

It's still a lot of weight. Like, whenever their voice goes up, oh, yeah, I like it. It's cute. She gets mad when whenever their voice goes up. Oh, yeah, I like it. It's cute She gets mad when I look in the mirror and I say not bad for an old guy Yeah, you're not old. Yeah, I'm a moles not bad for an old guy. Yeah This quas brought to you by organify For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition

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Hmm. You know, my go-to to start with for me is if I'm in a hotel that has a gym, well first off hotel gyms are pretty terrible typically. They are dutch. Yeah, there's usually no real free weights. There might be some dumbbells if you're lucky that go up to like 45 pounds.

You could do everything that's in our anywhere program, man, those though. Well, you can do that in your hotel room. Really much, yeah. You can do that in your hotel room. But what I do is if they have a gym, this is what I've done the past, I should say, is I'll go into that gym and I'll do one intense set,

per body part, and I'll typically do it with a very short rest in between, so 15, 20 seconds. And I'll do three or four rounds of that, and then I'm done. And I do it every day, now here's the thing. I do a lot of frequencies. So every single morning I'll go in there, and I'll spend about 30 minutes doing that workout.

And it helps maintain my part. I do something similar. I think this is the only time I really actually apply like a circuit training kind of method, depending on, well, I'm limited here. I have this amount of weights and machines. So can I superset, can I kind of move my way around, just cut the rest, make it feel like I actually did

something productive. But in terms of being effective, there's a lot more moves. I'll do that. Or pretty much just body weight-driven. And if the weights aren't there, to where it's like, sometimes I just don't bother

and I'll just work on my mobility and I'll work on body weight movements. I mean, if I'm being completely honest, I don't have a structure to what this looks like. I mean, the answer that I think that would be smart for me to say business wise would be to say maps anywhere because that's why we designed it. We literally designed it with those intentions

that if you're a businessman or woman, you travel a lot, you know, what would a good structured program look like that you could do literally anywhere? And that was the reason why we created. So we have something for someone who doesn't know how I put something like together, but in all honesty, for me, it just, it really depends on the mood. I am the, the one thing though that's important and probably kind of like what Justin alluded to, which is the circuit kind of training.

Well, it's more like I just want to, I know I need to move. If I'm trapped, if we're traveling, that means I'm on a plane. I'm probably in an Uber. I'm sitting a lot. I'm not burning a lot of calories. I'm not taking a lot of steps. And so I like to either get up an extra hour early or stay up an hour later and get this workout in. And really I'm not only am I trying to touch some weights. I'm not trying to make huge gains. I'm not squatting heavyweight or deadlifting major weight in a hotel. What I'm doing is I'm burning some extra calories that I probably would have normally burned had I been home.

One of the easiest ways to do that is in a circuit base type of format or I will normally get on their treadmill or elliptical or whatever they have inside there and I'll do you know little bouts Where I'll go for like 10 minutes on the treadmill and then I get bored and then I'll pick up a set of dumbbells And I'll do some body weight or dumbbell type squats and do pushups and and so I'm just kind of moving and and keeping my body Moving because I know that I'm pretty sedentary when we travel like that But it really has no rhyme or reason it with when it comes to like the structure of it because I know that I'm pretty sedentary when we travel like that. But it really has no rhyme or reason with when it comes to like the structure of it because I'm not in a structured program currently right now. Now that will be totally different if you ask me that question in the heat of a major

goal. I just said a goal I'm going to be shredding down for a show or something. Well, then I would want something like anywhere, something that is way more structured that I can rely that, hey, this is gonna be a really good workout for me. I just wanna make sure that I move on those days. Yeah, for something that's more recent for me, because since I've started dating somebody,

like Jessica, who's very much into fitness like I am, now it's much more of a priority Together, right? So when we go on trips Something that we like to do is we like to first thing of the day and I don't want to say morning because there's definitely days We wake up much later because maybe we went to bed You know, real late the night before we're on vacation especially but one of the first things that we do is we have our workout and it's really improve the quality of my vacations because vacations tend to be, I mean vacations tend to include

a lot of food, a lot of food that you may not normally eat, they include maybe less activity, a lot more lounging, you know, if you're a sunny destination, aside from the adventures type stuff that you may do, you might just be sitting by the pool and relaxing and having good conversation, it includes alcohol. And I noticed that the workouts make my enjoyable, my, my vacation much more enjoyable. I feel healthier, I feel better. And I'm not like many times I'm not in there to have a crazy hard workout.

Like I'm not trying to get more fit on my vacations. Actually makes me laugh when I go to the hotel gyms. And you know, we were in Mexico recently and they have this decent, actually gym upstairs in one of the buildings and they have the windows outlook, the ocean, all that stuff. And so we'd go in there at around eight or nine a.m., about 30 minutes after we wake up.

And there are people in there working out and I know for sure these people never work out. I just tell by their form and how they're exercising, how they're shaking when they're lifting weights, they're technique on the treadmill, whatever. And I'm thinking to myself, like this is a strange time to start your workout to figure out that communication.

Can I just say that's one of my favorite things to do is like go to these resort type workout gyms and then just sit there and watch people and see what they gravitate towards and what kind of sporadic movements like come out of their body. Yeah, it's fantastic. It's funny, I'll talk to people too

in the gyms all the time. I love talking to people in those gyms and they'll start a conversation where you're from, whatever. And I'll be like, oh, it's just the workout you follow at home. No, I don't normally work out at home, but I have time. Now that I'm on my feet, I guess that's okay, right? It's fine, you have time, you want to work out. But my point with all this is, that's not the time to try to get fit.

Definitely not for me. Like when I do it, I'm doing it because I probably didn't eat very good Yeah, I'm just trying to gate some of the damage, but in some of the inflammation I maybe stay on a good hump right before you lay around the pool To get that in But the other thing is that I don't I don't typically work out every single day I work out most days, but I don't work out every single day, but when I'm on vacation day, I work out most days, but I don't work out every single day. But when I'm on vacation, unless, actually, no, not unless, especially now that I've been

dating Jessica, every single day we do some kind of a workout and it's makes the vacation more enjoyable because exercise applied properly. Again, remember what I said earlier, I'm not there to get more fit, but exercise, you know, applied appropriately makes everything else more enjoyable. I'm less inflamed, I'm less stiff. I feel maybe less hungover. Sometimes my workout might be stretching and yoga on the beach because I'm a little bit hungover.

Maybe I'll use the sauna and do like a cold rinse, but it's kind of part of my hack to enjoy more of my vacation. And I really enjoy it. And then of course, the fact that I'm a fitness fanatic, I like working out in different places and hotel gyms, although they're typically crappy, I still like going into them because in a change of environment.

Yeah, and there's always some machine that I haven't seen a long time or some weird piece of equipment. Like the last one I worked out at, they had this machine, it's really strange. And I can't remember, techno jam. That was the name of the company, techno jam. I don't know how to come up.

And there were, it was a machine, it was selectorized. It had handles, but the handles had cables attached to both ends. So it had like a wall that was like slates of wood and then it had like, it was almost like a cable machine, but it was in the middle. Is that one? No, I've seen that one.

This one is literally like, for example, a chest press. So you sit in the middle? Is that one? No, I've seen that one. This one is literally, like for example, a chest press. So you sit in the chest press, you grab the handles, but the handles have cables attached to both ends. So it's kind of like using cables, but it's not like a free motion. So I'm not totally free.

They had that with shoulder machine, they had a row machine like that. They had a step up machine with that. It was kind of different. I mean, I wasn't a huge fan of them, but it was different. Never get to use them. I like them. You know, you know, the super sport 24 fitness over here has them. You know, it's one the one over off of, they have a bunch of those ones. I haven't been in that. Never one in that one. Oh, you have it. Never. Oh, yeah. They get some, you want to go see some cool machines. They get a bunch of really. Yeah.

They have a bunch of them. This is the one on Will's land. No, no, no, no, no, not Willow Glen. The one super sport. The big one. The one that's a big one. Really? Yeah, this is the one on Willow's land. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no a week, you know, personal training, and then they went on vacation for a week and a half or whatever, I would give them bands, and rather than tell them, okay, you know, you're gone for 10 days, I want you to do these three one hour workouts, it was far easier for them to stick to a 15 to 20 minute daily workout, and that's what I've always given people.

Here's your 15 minute workout. I mean, we just, and so in anywhere it has that, where you can scale up the time in the workout too. So anywhere really was designed for this. Now, it may sound weird that I'm pushing that, yet I say I don't do, but I've been working out for fucking ever. I don't need a structured program to help me

while I'm vacation. Like I just approach it with way more of a loose attitude, where, you know, if you're concerned about that and you're not sure of what you should do when you travel or, I mean, that's why we designed that fucking thing. I mean, it's an incredible, useful tool for you. Well, I'm with you and I always say that, but like then I'll talk to Courtney, for instance,

and I'm like, I'll be in the gym. I know exactly what I'm doing, because I've been doing it for like my whole career. Her, she's just like, oh my God, what am I going to do? Yeah. And just lost. So it's like the mentality is totally different. So that's, so you try to think about those things and like how we programmed for somebody

like that. That's just like, well, I don't want to not do anything while I'm here. And so, you know, we tried to make it so you could challenge yourself. And when you feel like I want to just do a kickass workout today I want to do something that's a little more Corrective therapeutic or you know along those lines. Yeah, here. I'll give you a basic the super basic free information right here Super basic routine you can do in Your hotel gym or if you don't have a gym with bands here's here's workout one very easy back step lunges chest press

Rose overhead shoulder press curls and either some bench dips or some trisive extension one, very easy back step lunges, chest press, rows, overhead shoulder press curls, and either some bench dips or some trisive extensions with the dumbbell, and then whatever ab exercise you want. There's your very basic, easy, total body, to get it done.

Here's the other one you can do with bands if you don't have those machines. You can still do your back step lunge, you can do your band row, you can do pushups, you can do an overhead press with bands or a side lateral with bands, curls, and again overhead tricep extension with the bands and then whatever ab exercise you want, super basic, super easy, and it maybe take you 20 minutes.

Next question is from Mark in the mountains. I know you guys don't like the term warming up, but is there something to it? When I go on winter hikes, my hands and arms move slowly until I warm up again. Sure, absolutely. That's your central nervous system. Circulation, buddy. Yeah, it's, so when you're cold, your central nervous system naturally tells your body to tighten up a little bit.

And when you're really warm and hot, your central nervous system tends to relax. And so this is why if you're in a sauna and you're stretching, you're probably going to get greater range of motion than if you're in a meat locker and you're trying to stretch. So there is- Do you imagine that? If you're awful. Yeah, do you meat locker yoga?

Oh my gosh, you should start that. Just snap. It reminds me of, you know what I think about right away, right? Rocky. Thank you. When he's hitting the big B. The bus what I think about right away, right? Rocky, thank you. Yeah. When he's hitting the big B. Yeah, the puzzle, the puzzle, the puzzle. Yeah, it's so good.

Yeah, no, there's something too warming up in the sense that warming up your body relaxes the CNS a little bit and gives you maybe a great range of motion. Now, does this mean that you are at a reduced risk of injury? Matt necessarily. You could go too much mean that you are at a reduced risk of injury. Matt, necessarily, you could go too much and have this really loose range. I mean, how do you feel when you're super hot, right?

It's like a super hot summer day, and you've got low energy. You might have less stability. You might go into a workout being like, oh, I'm super warmed up now, and then you go do a bottom out squat, you're on the control to do so and you hurt yourself. So it doesn't necessarily mean you're better off,

although many times it does, probably better off than just being super cold and then trying to force yourself to get into a range of motion. That being said, comparing warming up to targeted priming is like comparing a bottle rocket to the space shuttle that went to the moon. I mean there's there's literally No comparison. Yes a general warm-up will get your body to feel looser and may increase your range of motion

But it does nothing to Connect you to better ranges of motion. It does nothing to improve your stability in new ranges of motion. It does nothing to Change your movement patterns, or at least give you the feeling so that you now have a little bit of feedback so you can fix your movement patterns, like priming does. Priming is in a whole nother level, just why we don't use that term warming up. Right, and that, I think that's just the way to say it, right? One of them carries over to the other one and the other one doesn't, right? Like, if you prime, you get all the same benefits that you get doing a generic warm-up. If you, if you actually prime for your body, you get all the same benefits that you get doing a generic warmup. If you actually prime for your body,

you're gonna get the blood flow of the circulation, the warming the joints up all, you're gonna get all those benefits that you get from quote unquote, generic warming up. The problem, if you do generic warming up, though you may not get, no, you may not, you won't get the same benefits that you were to, if you were to do specific mobility type drills.

So to me, I feel like when you do mobility, if you like the way you feel when you, so this reminds me what Mark's talking about, is like when I go snowboarding, like, you know, I could, before I go snowboarding, I could do like, you know, some jumping jacks or lunges, or you know, swing my body around

and get the blood flowing and get some benefits of warming my body up before I go. And that would make me feel better than going completely into it cold. But what would be better? It would be for me to get down to my deep squat, do some thoracic mobility, do some lizard with rotations, do some combat stretching, do some things that are specific to my imbalances. I get the benefits of the warming, the joints up warming, getting the blood flow going,

and then also to work on my specific needs. So to me, it's kind of like that's where we're like, it's not that we're anti-warming up, it's just like if you're going to put the work in, if you're going to do movement, do movement with purpose, I used to say this was stretching. Like, I used to hammer stretching back in the days, just like, you know, don't just stretch, you know, stretch with purpose. You know, it doesn't make sense that stretch muscles that don't need to be really stretched

because then all you really do get the benefits of the blood flow that we're talking about, you know, stretch with purpose. If you're gonna put the time and effort into stretching, do it to the muscles that need it. Same thing goes for warming up. If you're gonna warm the body up, you should be addressing the problem.

There's the optimal length tension relationship, you know, if you're going to warm the body up, you should be addressing the problem. There's the optimal length tension relationship, you know, if you're doing something specific that you want performance out of, priming is the best way to go about it. As we're opening up those very specific movement patterns or those very specific ways of stabilizing the joints, so it performs that movement and it sort of prepares the body for that pathway to sort of open up versus just the entire body just getting loose. And now I have to figure out how to then get tense on command in the right direction.

It just doesn't transfer and carry over the same way that it does when you're more specific. Yeah, so just so you know, if you're listening and you've never heard us really compare the two and you're kind of confused, I'll give you a very basic easy example. Let's say you were going to go do a workout and your first exercise is bench press and I'm going to use a very generic priming activity that someone can do. But let's say you're going to go bench press.

Now a normal classic warm up might be to stretch the chest a little bit and to do some maybe light sets of chest press, just to start to feel the muscles warm up and get that better range of motion and that feels so tight. So that would be your general warm up. Now priming, proper priming would be first to identify any potential movement pattern issues that you might have. Let's say you're an individual about to go bench press and you have the very, very common

posture deviation known as upper cross syndrome. Let's just say you have your shoulders like to roll forward. The round, it's kind of like hunched shoulders or rolled forward shoulders, which you can picture in your mind right now. It's very, very common. Let's say that's your problem. Well, the way you may prime your body, maybe to do some exercises that activates the muscles that pulls the shoulders down and back.

Now, why is that important? Because that down and back position is where you want to be when you're bench pressing. That's where you want your shoulders to be to be stable, so that you can bench press a lot of weight in a safe way and to also hit the target muscles in the most effective way, which the target muscles with the bench press are the chest. So if you prime your body the right way, it's it's targeted. And really it's priming is just targeted warming up. If you all priming is doing what warming up has always promised to do, but has failed to deliver. I mean, gosh, I remember,

do you guys remember how we were told to tell people to get warmed up for the workout? It took 10 minutes to run the lap. And then, yeah, get on the treadmill for 10 to 10 minutes, right? It didn't matter what we did. It's stretching hammies. Yeah, it didn't matter what we did.

It didn't matter what the workout consisted of. Yeah. Or what the posture deviations were, or what the muscle issues were, movement pattern. It was like, oh, hey, Mrs. Smith, cool. Go get warmed up on the treadmill or on the bike. And then when you're done, come meet me over here and we'll start our workout.

That's how we were coached and trained. And you know, trainers embraced it because it was easy. You know, your client got on the cardio for 10 minutes. So I had 10 minutes to bullshit with my trainer friends or whatever. Yeah. But no, that was, it's a little bit better than's, it's, it's a little bit better than nothing, but barely. It's not that much better than nothing. And it's actually, you know, the static stretching stuff, that's even worse.

That actually can cause, you know, more injury. But yes, there's definitely something to the body actually warming up temperature wise. But I want to say this though, it's not, the way it was explained to me is not true. When I was first became a trainer, an older trainer explained to me warming up and said, you know, and you have a rubber band, and if you put it in the freezer and you try and pull that rubber band, it's going to snap. But then if you warm it up a little bit, it's pliable on its stretches. And I'm like, oh, that's what he means by warming up. Okay, no, no, that's not how it works. Your muscles don't work that way. Trust me, you're not getting cold enough to make your muscles brittle.

You imagine if we were all brittle like that, we don't shatter. No, no, no. You're not getting cold enough to know. No, no. No, it's literally your central nervous system that is more active or less active due to temperature. And by the way, this can happen for a lot of different reasons, not just temperature. You could be stressed out.

You could get pissed off and your CNS is gonna tighten things up, just like it would if it was cold, so. Next question is from Harder Life. What books would you recommend to educate oneself on health, fitness and lifestyle? Would you guys think of my Arnold Schwarzenegger and Cyclopedia bodybuilding? That was a great flashback.

Dude, that's the OG version. Oh, that's the first one. Cause I've seen, I used to have a different version that That was a great flashback. Dude, that's the OG version. Oh, that's the first one. Cause I've seen, I used to have a different version that I was a black and white cover and it was thick but it was not as thick as that one. That thing was a monster. No, that's the one that I have. Did you take a picture of that and share it?

You gotta share that to the audience. So you gotta share that to the audience because you've had that since you were a child. I think I was, I wanna say 14. Yeah, the audience needs to see the usage of this book because I don't think I've ever seen a book hanging by, it's dear life. Oh yeah.

I've read the fuck out of that book. I mean, it's got, I feel like you slept with it too. You've got tape all over it, holding the spine together, and it just, at any moment, looks like it's gonna just disintegrate. Isn't it gonna give it character though? It does, no, that's why it's great.

You gotta take a picture of it and share with the audience. When I was 14, is when I really started getting into working out, and my cousin and I were like, fucking serious about it. And that Christmas, we both got a copy of Arnold Schwarzenegger's encyclopedia of bodybuilding. And it's like this thick, it's a very thick book. And in it, you know, an Arnold wrote it, obviously, with the help of, I think Bill Dobbins helped

him write it. But in that book is, well, my favorite parts were the body parts. So we'd go through chest, back, shoulders, biceps, triceps, forearms, calves, abs, obliques. And he would list every known exercise for those body parts up until that point. Now he didn't include every single machine that existed, but every single free weight exercise. He was like, everything you could possibly think of.

Yes. And then he would get other body builders that had the best muscles in that category to model for him, which I thought was interesting. Yeah. So like the back section was Franco Colombo, because Franco Colombo was known for having the most insane back. Like the legs area was Tom Platz, because Tom Platz had crazy, and these are all bodybuilders

from the 70s and 80s. You know, Bertle Fox for the shoulders, because he had big delts and all that stuff. So it's, you know, Chris Dickerson, I think, was Caps. So it goes through all the body parts, but it also goes through diet. And some of the diet information is pretty solid. I mean, he's advising a pretty high calorie diet to put on mass and stuff,

it's kind of the old-school bulking method, but it's pretty solid. He tells the story of what got him into lifting weights. At the end of it, he talks about contest prep, he talks about posing, he talks about oil, how to oil your body up. He talks about, I mean, it's a massive book. I must have read the book a million times. If you're really, really into working out and you would just like to learn a lot of old school exercises, I highly recommend Arnold Schwarzenegger's Encyclopedia bodybuilding.

Even the new one still has a lot of different actions. It's just fun. It's fun to have on your mental. Where I direct people now is different. I mean, I actually used to direct people to national certifications. It sounds crazy because you think that I don't want to be a trainer. I just want to learn this information. I think the way, like in NASM, as structured is in a really good way even for the average,

because I actually had clients that I recommended that to and then read it and it made my job easier when they had a better understanding so they knew what the fuck I was doing and why I was doing it. So there's some certifications that are cool to go through. Now that can be a really expensive way to learn the information that we talk a lot about.

I think a book that I recommend the most now is Paul checks how to eat, move, and be healthy. Yeah, did one. I think that it's a fairly short read in comparison to like a textbook. I think the things that he covers in there were so far ahead of his time. And I think more and more people are getting on board with a lot of his philosophies that

they called him crazy about years ago. I think it's an incredible, holistic approach to training and moving and dieting. I think that's an incredible, well-rounded read for any of you. I recommend that one all the time. The other book is Healthy Gut, Healthy You by Dr. Ruscio, to really help yourself with, because you're asking about this person's ask about health books as well.

You know, there's not a lot of great information out there on how to improve one's gut health, and he really spells it out. He really breaks it down. There's protocols in there you can follow. He does a great job in that. My, well, Courtney got a lot of benefit out of that just from the section on hormones and thyroid and just some approaches that you can take and test out, you know, with nutrition and, you know,

seeing how to improve your overall gut health and performance there. So yeah, I love that. And I also like, and from the way that I sort of came into fitness was more through sports and through movement specifically. So less on the bodybuilding, although I did a lot of bodybuilder workouts and was definitely in that world on some level. But I was reading books like easy strength. And that was, you know, that was something that I thought was very interesting. I started getting into kettlebell training and and drag indoor and all these publications that were promoting things like that. And that that kind of opened my eyes as to more of the unconventional world in different ways

that people were using training and treating strength and simplifying the process of getting strong. And also movement was a big book for me that was more recent by Greg Cook who really outlined sort of a way to identify movement patterns and see where people were falling short and how to recognize those patterns pretty quickly through testing. And I did apply probably about half of it. Like I found that some of it got a little bit like it wasn't really relatable for what we're doing in the training session.

So I would just sort of filter my way through a lot of these concepts. But I really did enjoy a lot of his thought that he put into trying to screen people in their movement and be able to optimize that whole process. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying?

You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You know what he's got good books too. Sorry to interrupt you Mike dude our boy Matthews has got some his books are pretty solid too man. They're very good the way he writes very good clean Basic honest good information for the average person. Yeah, yeah, no, he writes really well. Yeah, Mike's books are great You know, I think he's a great resource. I think for information. Did you guys have you ever read? Did you guys ever read this book? Dinosaur training. Yeah, Dinosaur Training was one I would recommend too. Oh, I love this book. I love that book.

So Brooks, starting strength is an important one. So dinosaur training was really good because that book really got me to understand the value of heavy singles and doubles and odd lifts, strong man type lifts. That book really transformed the way I trained and helped me understand, you know, what strength is all about. Max Lugavier's book, Genius Foods, excellent book on how to eat to optimize brain health or to maintain longevity with your brain.

Another excellent excellent book. Great book. Yeah, definitely book. Supple Leopard. Supple Leopard is a good book. Yeah, that's a really good book as well. So these are all great. The good thing is that there's so many resources nowadays a wire to eat by Rob Wolf That's a great one. That's a great one. Super training. Yeah, these are all great so many great resources now You could literally just go online. I

Like to think though that we curate a lot of that information I mean a lot of the motivation behind the podcast was, we've collectively done a lot of this reading for people and trying to present a very non-biased way of talking about all of these books, because I think they're all incredible and they all have things for people to take. Well, and you can also see how it's influenced

the salt individually and how that's sort of salt individually and how that sort of collectively we've figured out sort of what we all have found to be Things that stand out is like oh wow that method really worked with me and my clients And so that's like definitely something that we should Keep in the conversation right Next question is from mcbaca If you could have one physical feature from the other Mind Pump hosts, what would it be?

Oh, excuse me. Yeah. Justin's calves. Yeah! I was gonna call them. I want his calves. He works so hard for. I do.

You guys don't realize, like, at one point, I was... Do you even know how to use a calf machine? I did use them back in the day. Did you use them a lot? No, but I did, see, I did a lot of sprints, I did a lot of, like, uphill training, I did a lot of jump rope, I did a lot of things that were more plyometric based, explosive things,

so, but not necessarily, like like machines for hypertrophy. So, no, yeah, I can't say that. I've been jumping my whole life. I still don't have cash. So, there you go. I mean, the development there, yeah, my dad has amazing calves. So, yeah, it was just one of those things.

It's always the guy in the gym with the best calves. It's always the guy that doesn't work him. Yeah, it's always the case. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want Justin's calves. I want Sal's quads. Oh, I don't know. So, that's, if I took a body part from each of you, that's the body. Yeah, yeah. I want Justin's calves, I want Sal's quads. Oh, I don't know. So that's if I took a body part from each of you,

that's the body parts I would take. I would love Doug's skin. Oh yeah, I think that would Doug's skin also. Oh, I mean, it's like, it's so, I'm a little freaked out by that. I want Doug's eyes. I get Doug's eyes. You do gazing to him.

Well, you can't help it. They're like crystal blue. Yeah, there you go. So if you have to take a body part right from everybody, I'm with you on that. I'm gonna take Doug Skin, I'm gonna take Justin's calves, I'm gonna take your quads. So I'm gonna ask you.

I would take your shoulder to waist ratio. That's nice. That's a very... Very urn asshole. Like your whole waist thing where you can't get like any body fat there, like, screw you, man. No, you got to hip the waist right. If you talk about bad genetics, but that fucking

really played in your favor. Oh, that was amazing. For men's physique, it's, I think it's arguably the most important thing to win is to have that. I was gonna see your height, but, you know, like I could be used in the other inch. Yeah, you see, that's funny, you say that because I would, I'd rather be your height at six foot.

Like, I'd rather be six foot than six three. Really? Yeah. Why? I mean, being a lanky guy, it's hard to pack on muscle, man. I wish it was easier to pack on muscle a little bit more. I think that if I was six foot, I would have been a monster. Yeah.

Maybe I got pretty monstrous there for a bit. What are you talking about? Yeah, kind of. Yeah. Kind of, maybe a little bit. You know what I want to do is my buddy took the 23-and-me test and they tell you if you have the gene, they'll say, oh, this means that you build muscle easily

or whatever and he took the test and it said that he didn't, he had the gene that means he can't build muscle easily and he's all pissed off or whatever. But I want to take that test just so you can say. I would love to take that test. Do you know why I want to take that test so bad? Because I wonder, I see pictures of myself now when I was 14 and 15.

And yeah, I'm a skinny kid, but I am not a skinny, I thought I was, when I was that age, I thought I was so terrible, but I look at it, I'm like, you know, I wasn't, I look like a typical. You're a cultured and normal than you were skinny. Yeah, and I think it's, see, I wasn't.

I mean, I was so skinny, my ribs, you saw my ribs. I wanna see a picture. I bet you just look like a normal kid. No, no, no, no, no. I bet you look like a skinny normal kid. You know what I'm saying? I'm pretty sure you don't, I think it's, I was on the Abnormally skinny.

But I was, I graduated high school, okay? At six foot tall and a hundred and like 35 or 140 pounds. Yeah, that's a high school kid though. High school kids are like, plus you grew, but you also sprouted late though. I think I was 185, so yeah. Yeah, that's a high school kid though. High school kids are like plus you grew up, but you also sprouted late though. I think I was 185 so yeah. Yeah, that's just, and you were, and you were, and you were, and you were lean.

That was five five, and you were lean. You weren't like a round putty kid. Yeah, no, no, no, no. So he's got 40 pounds. Yeah, but that's hard. You can't use that because, look at, and he's taller. Listen, bro, my girlfriend was 5'11",

and she weighed like more than I did. How tall were you? When did you get tall? Junior year. Right. Of course you were skinny. You fucking sprouted up. Yeah, I know.

You sprouted up. I got 4 years later. No, no, no, no. I went from my freshman year. I was 5'3". So I shot all the way up to 6'4". Well, 5'3. Yeah, really?

My freshman year was a point guard. So I mean, I always say I. Wow, five, three. Yeah, I'm really. Yeah, my freshman year was, yeah, it was a point guard. So I mean, I, I always say I went freshman year of five, three point guard, probably grew a couple inches, but then junior year, I sprouted all the way up to six foot. And then I actually kept growing out of high school. So my junior year in college, I grew the, yeah, so you're really feeling, I feel like I saw had chest hair first.

I know what I just feel that. You know, I'm not a hairy person like that. I probably had pubes before you guys did. I remember having those dad boys in the lab. Show them. No, yeah. I remember that too. Yeah, but I wasn't that hairy.

Both of you guys are hairier than I am. I don't know about that. I don't think I'm hair. My arms, I'm real deceptive with that. Yeah. Courtney was very surprised. You got that forearm hair. I'm like, it looked like Wolfman Jack, you know, with the forearms. But I don't think I'm that hairy. I Courtney was very surprised. You got that forearm. I see. I look like Wolfman Jack,

you know, with the forearms, but I don't think I'm that hairy. I'm not very hairy. You're not. I'm neither mine. I'm not a good representative of my. Yeah, I don't think any of us really are. Doug Deathley is in. Doug saves everything. Yeah, does he? Yeah, he waxes everything. He's a wax special place. Not true. He's a waxer in bleachers. He's a, I'm the hairless variety. He's the hairless variety. He's a bleacher. Yeah. It's a Brazilian thing.

Ooh, it looks good. No, I was six foot when I was a freshman, I think. Freshmen are sophomore. So I got up tall real quick and I stopped. Right. Yeah, so if we went to the same school. Yeah, you'd be like a big tall friend of mine. Yeah, and they know what I'll be like oh shit Slow down, bro. Yeah, you're fast enough. I bet you're like I said you were skinny because you sprouted so fast

I would like to take this test because I bet you especially you and I Adam because we were so insecure about being skinny Yeah, I bet you were gonna take the test to be like you've got good muscle-be building jeans I don't All your excuses are out the window. I mean, I would love to take it and be proved wrong. I don't, but I don't think by any means did I? Did anybody in here take out a test? None of you guys did?

No. Have you done a duck, 23 of me? I haven't, but I bought it. You haven't at home? Yeah, I haven't. You need to do it. How do you take it? I don't know.

I haven't even opened it yet. Really? My parents took it right away. Why haven't we reached out to them to be sponsored by them? That's a good company that I wouldn't mind working with. Have we not sent Taylor on that? Yeah, Taylor. Is it real accurate?

He's a list of these. Taylor, I'm excited to have it. Yeah. We'll start talking more shit about him on the show. Start listening to the show. Yeah. Start having people arous of him all the time. So check this out.

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