Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 936: The Benefits of a Front Squat vs. Back Squat, Training Stubborn Clients, 2019 New Year Resolutions & MORE

Episode Date: January 2, 2019

 Organifi Quah! iTunes & Facebook Review Winners! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the benefits of a front squat over a back squat, how to train a client who is very disobedient and does not like resistance training, how to handle bullies and New Year’s resolutions. Happy New Year!! Mind Pump welcomes in 2019: Solving the transportation issues, mankind not letting ego get in the way & MORE. (4:32) Would You Eat Human Meat Grown in a Lab? (12:15) Thrive Market disrupting the industry and making waves! (13:40) Clash of the Titans: Walmart vs. Amazon. It’s on!! (17:35) UFC Hall of Famer Randy Couture's sex tape leaks online. How the generation coming out now is less worried about things coming out. (18:44) How Instagram is the new high school + Making money off your fame: Have the money or just the fame? (25:30) If the guys of Mind Pump were a movie, what would they be? (28:50) Big recall ordered of pot products after lab is caught faking tests. How the black market is always competing with the legal market. (31:00) Mind Pump addresses the accuracy of food sensitivity tests and tests in general, i.e. Everly Well. (36:24) The great debate: How much money do creators of “at home fitness products” really make? (45:45) Jon Jones also tested positive back in August and September, long before the UFC 232 debacle in Las Vegas. (49:00) Adam’s safe, not so safe story. (50:59) #Quah question #1 – Please explain the benefits of a front squat over a back squat? (54:01) #Quah question #2 - How to train a client who is very obese, disobedient and does not like resistance training? (1:05:10) #Quah question #3 - How to handle bullies? (1:20:25) #Quah question #4 – What are your New Year’s resolutions? (1:31:10) People Mentioned Elon Musk (@elonmusk)  Twitter Enzo Coglitore (@enzocog)  Instagram Bishop Robert Barron (@bishopbarron)  Instagram Products Mentioned: January Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!!  **Code “RED50” at checkout** Thrive Market   **Free 1-month membership, 25% off first order + free shipping on orders of $49 or more** Everly Well **Code “mindpump” 15% any test** Would You Eat Human Meat Grown in a Lab? Online natural and organic grocery Thrive aims to fill niche Walmart to Acquire Delivery Company Cornershop for $225 Million UFC Hall of Famer Randy Couture's sex tape leaks online The American Meme | Netflix Official Site Big recall ordered of pot products after lab is caught faking tests FODMAP 101: A Detailed Beginner's Guide - Healthline The Shake Weight Hits $40 Million In Sales - CNBC.com Jon Jones also tested positive back in August and September, long before the UFC 232 debacle in Las Vegas Mind Pump Episode 922: John Romano Marinovich Training Systems Mind Pump Episode 827: Bishop Barron - Using YouTube & Social Media to Demystify Christianity & God

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. A Happy New Year! Happy New Year! In this first episode of the year of Mind Pump. Now for the first 48 minutes, we don't talk about fitness, but we have a lot of fun having our introductory conversation. Here's what we talked about in the beginning of the episode.

We talked about the year 2018 and the future. We talked about Thrive Market and their Philanthropy work, and all that they did in the year 2018, they're a great company to work for. They are the largest online retailer of non-GMO and organic products, including skincare products and products for your pets. We are sponsored by Thrive Market.

If you go to thrivemarket.com forward slash MindPump, you'll get a free month membership and 25% off your first order. Then we talked about Amazon versus Walmart, Clash of the Titans. Good discussion there. It's going down. Then we watched a great video

before we actually recorded this episode. Randy Couture, he did some crazy stuff in this video. Yeah, he's let it all hang out, you will. You're gonna have to listen to the episode to find out what we think about his leaked sex video. Then we talked about something that made Adam very sad. Cannabis recall. That's right, they're recalling cannabis. What?

Looks like they were messing around with. We want it back with the testing for pesticides and it looks like people were lying a little bit. Then we mentioned our Everly Well testosterone tests. We're gonna do some new ones and see what happens. Let's see if I win again. You never know. Everly Well is one of our sponsors.

They do give you or create at home, hormone tests and food sensitivity tests. If you go to EverlyWell.com, that's eve. E-R-L-Y-W-E-L-L.com and use the code Mind Pump. You'll get 15% off any tests. Then we talked about as seen on TV, fitness product, fortunes, and we talked about atoms, not so safe. Safe. Doesn't work that good. Yeah. Then we get into the fitness questions. The first question was, what are the differences between the

front squat and the back squat in terms of benefits? Like, why should I do one versus the other? How is my body going to respond? Which one's better? All that great stuff. Next question. how do you train a client who is very disobedient and does not like resistance training? Do you force them? Do you convince them? Do you spank them? Or do you do that? That's right. I'll get you. You'll be done with your job real quick with that one. Yeah. The next question was, this person's little brothers getting bullied at school and, you know, the PC world that we live in now, you can't really punch a bully or can you? and the PC world that we live in now, you can't really punch a bully or can you.

We are not experts on the subject, but we give our opinion anyway. And the final question, we all give our new year's resolutions. Find out what Adam, Justin and myself tried to change for the new year, 2019. Also, to welcome in the new year, we are making Maps and Obolic,

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Both of you are winners in the name. I just read to iTunes at mindpumpmedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address, and also include your Instagram handle. Again, send it all over to iTunes at MindPumpMedia.com and we'll get that right out to you. Do it. It's new year, 2019. You know it's crazy. When I was a kid, if you had said the year 2020 sounded hella futuristic. I would have pictured crazy spaceships and stuff. I mean, I would have a pet right now. No, you would picture the scene from Terminator 1, right? Isn't that like 2020 or something like that?

Yeah. It is, isn't it? Yeah, right. I think it's like 20-Sky Net has completely taken over. And yeah. Yeah, I think about that for a second. It's interesting when you think about movies we used to watch when we were kids,

and then the prediction of what 2020 would look like. Well, look at back to the future. What year do they travel to and back to the future? Yeah, it was 2010 or something. I think we like that. Yeah, and they have like hovering skateboards and everybody's dressed, hella weird and it's funny because when you-

That's where they always get it wrong. Yes, they go like Ridiculous with the the fashion all you have to do is look at a calendar and like assume that everything goes in cycles Yeah, so now if I'm gonna recycle like something that you would almost like go in in phases of like well Now everybody's gonna look like they're in the 50s. You know everybody's gonna like they're in the 60s You know movie that that well, oh her really you guys stills. You know, move me to that well. Uh, her. Really? You guys still haven't watched that, huh? I have.

I have seen part of it, yeah. So, I watched it the other day, actually. Good, right? Now, tell me that wasn't one of the more, I mean, realistic predictions of what the future kind of looks like. Like, they didn't overdo it. Like, I think in movies, like, in back to the future,

like, ooh, look, I have a little tiny pizza that I put inside this machine in terms of a large pizza. Yeah. It's like that's silly. Like the Jetsons. Yeah, let's be realistic. Like get out of here. The herr was very realistic. They didn't shove it in your face.

You know what I mean? They didn't make a big deal about the fashion. Look at the way they're dressed. You're like, this kind of looks like a throwback to the 70s, but not a little bit. Yeah, right? Well, that's what I can believe that. That's why I like that, even though I only made it through like three or four episodes that 70s one that was predicting the future. I thought that, even though I only made it through like three or four episodes that 70s one that was predicting like the future.

I thought that was a clever. I thought they did a good job of that, or didn't seem to. Yeah, it was way too weird. But 2020 is going to be here any minute now and a year from now. And it doesn't, we're going to have perfect vision then. It's so, this is a bad joke. That was, thank you. Justin. That was way thank you, trust it. This is through that one in there. Bing, I was waiting for you, Sal. That, there's a lot of things that are not like I thought they'd be.

Like we still have traffic. Traffic, they'll, come on, Elon. In our, in our, in our lifetime, traffic will be laughed at, though. I do believe that there will come a time where we will sit around and go, man, you remember we used to sit and try, I do believe that. Number of lines, that will happen, right? There will come a time where we think that.

Because of self-driving vehicles and stuff. Yeah, just, I think the way we're gonna get around is gonna be so different. And the lack of having to get around is changing rapidly. When you think about, you know, the ability to work from home and the capability to go. Yeah, but that's been around for a while,

and it's made it so you're accelerating though. I think for entrepreneurs, definitely, but for working for other companies, they typically want you to come in a lot more than you think. Yeah, but I'm saying the combination of that with also the, I think, solving the transportation. Well, solving the transportation thing,

people don't realize how big of an impact that'll have on society. It'll be one of the biggest, most impactful, disrupting things that we've seen in the last 50 years. Because the car itself, having that autonomy of being able to drive yourself wherever you want,

completely transformed the world. It's actually what shaped America. Yeah, and that's kind of where we stopped. We haven't really progressed past that. And yeah, once we do, it'll be a whole new, it'll be like the industrial revolution all over again. It'll be interesting what it does for real estate too, because now, how much space is dedicated to parking?

Well, and how much is dedicated to being very close to your job? Because that's, you know, we pay a lot of money to live right here in the Silicon Valley because you don't want to sit in traffic for an hour and a half to two hours you get to work. So you pay top dollar to be 10 minutes away, which technically translates into 40 minutes of traffic still.

So what happens when you solve that problem? Well, then living in Salinas is not a big deal. That's only a 40 minute drive. And if we can do that either faster, right, if you do like Elon deal where we stack tunnels and we take so much more work, right? Or if we just have self-driving cars where I can actually work on the way to work, then a 40 minute commute is awesome because now I can sit and answer all emails and email you've seen that already in the workplace. Like more, I remember when that was a big deal that you well actually I could

work from home today right you know that became like a thing that people sought after and was exciting about a certain type of a job where they allowed them the flexibility to work from home but I think it's getting it's it's accelerating more in that direction to where everything that's relevant is somewhat related to the internet and digital space. Yeah. Well, traffic, a lot of traffic could be solved without having to change the roads if all the cars were self-driving cars that could communicate with each other because then they could synchronize,

and you could fit a lot more cars in a lot less space. You don't have that human error, where it slows down traffic, creates bottlenecks. You know, automatic cars or self-driving cars will zip into merging lanes, better they'll be able to follow each other much closer, because they communicate with each other. So it would solve a lot of traffic alone.

The bottleneck with that is regulation because at some point you're gonna have to either pass laws that says no more human drivers or you're gonna have to create roads that are just for automatic cars because if you have a bunch of human drivers and a bunch of... I imagine it that way.

I imagine that we'll designate lanes, you know, like the fast lane, the commuter lane now will become like a self-driving lane or some shit like that. I think that's the most realistic transition from where we're at, because there's gonna be some sort of a transition period. It's not like all of us one day will be

with self-driving cars, you know, it'll be the rich will have it first and have access to it first, because it'll be expensive. And we'll start on the interstates, you know, the major roadways where it's like, you get all the massive traffic like an LA. And maybe that's exactly how it works,

is it only works on the major highways first, and then as you merge off, you then have to take control again, which that would make it work. Or we could still drive itself, it just wouldn't be the same, right? It still wouldn't have to drive itself. Well, it's interesting with that,

is once we solve all that problem, like we're gonna immediately try and look towards like controlling the weather. I guarantee it. Really? Yeah. You think so? What does that have to do with it? I don't know.

I don't know. What the fuck does the weather have to do with it? Listen, listen, Linda. Listen. If we, if we saw what's the biggest issue that you're going to face on the roadway, it's weather. That's how it is. That's how it is.

You're not much bigger of a problem. Yeah, I know. Control the climate. We're gonna get a God complex. We just solved everything. They're, well, they're already toying with the idea. That's how to say. Yeah, they try that.

They're already toying with the idea of spraying the particulate matter into the air to lower the earth temperature to handle the warming of the work. That's ridiculous. That seems to me like the most, you know what science movies, science fiction movies always try to teach us, is they try to teach us that.

Don't fuck with that. Yeah, like stop trying to be, you're ego gets so big mankind that you think you could do things and then that's the matter. Well yeah, that's exactly what I feel like trying to clone humans and we're going way too fast in that direction too.

Oh, dude. I think what's going to be very interesting is they're now creating, it's just so expensive that it's not market feasible yet, but they're already starting to do lab-grown meat. So you don't need to kill an animal, you could just grow steak. Right, but it's not alive. It's living cells. It's living cells that they grow in a laboratory. From what, I mean, stem cells? They're just like individualized cells, so it's not like a real living organism.

It's well, I mean, it's a collection of cells. It is living tissue, but it's not, it was an animal. Yeah, I just wonder what that, you know, how your body receives that as opposed to like a real soul. You have to really consume the soul. You need that. That's my maricose psycho coming out of here. That's the favorite part of it. That's the reason why I eat animal flesh.

The soul of the animal. Yeah, I don't like the flesh. I like it when they scream first. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's terrible. We just lost all vegan followers. We didn't have any.

But for reals, they will grow me, and it's living cells, so they'll grow a steak, and they could create it in a way to where they can create a particular type of martyac. No, this is the basis of my next science fiction movie, where people start eating this lifeless meat. And as a result, you are what you eat. So then you become a zombie. You're an artificial zombie. You're just giving away.

Yeah. You're science theories today. I tell you what I'm dropping. I'm dropping them hot. You know, speaking of like disruptors and stuff, what do you think of our our sponsor Thrive Market? Do you think that it seems like they're making some really big waves right now? Did you guys read the thing that Rachel sent over? They gave us a recap of all of the charitable stuff that they did in 2018, right?

Yeah. Justin, you took notes on it. I tried. Yeah, I tried to keep up. They're doing so much cool stuff. There was over 106,000 donations that they actually donate to the disaster relief for all these different like,

what were the two main hurricanes? Well, there was also the fires in California. And the fires as well. Yeah, they donated a ton of money. They donated how many thousands of free memberships too to families that couldn't afford it? Because every time you get a membership of Thrive Market. Yeah, there's 74,000 in grocery credits and childcare supplies that they had donated

from that. So, all this money that we're contributing towards this company, they're utilizing and doing really cool stuff with it. Well, yeah, this is all the philanthropy work that you're talking about right now, but I was just talking about the its ability to disrupt a space right now that is, you know, like whole foods is not cheap to buy from whole foods. And right now, Thrive Market is delivering, you know, organic food for really, really cheap in comparison to that, and to your door within 48 hours. Yeah.

Yeah. I imagine as they grow, that'll just become more efficient, the selection, I mean, every time I get on there, I see something new I didn't see before. I mean, the- Pet food, of course, human food. It's the largest non-GMO online retailer. And the skincare product.

And the price points crazy. Yeah. It's really, it's, I think the way they make their money through their memberships, which are inexpensive as hell, but then they also make money through, I think they're on brand products.

The same way Costco does. No, I think that's where they make up. Exactly. It's a very similar model as Costco. It's the membership thing where you do, where you are gonna make money as their own product. No, I got some speculation for you, right? Because Whole Foods now has the power of Amazon

behind that. Right, yeah. And Amazon, let's just be quite frank here, they own shipping. Like they are the kings of getting shit to your door faster than anybody. Do you foresee Amazon looking at a business like Thrive Market and saying, we wanna buy. We wanna buy you guys. I don't know.

So I think if you're Amazon, you do hold. You do hold a lot of the power. I think Thrive is brilliant by putting a lot of their efforts into philanthropy. I think that's gonna be their saving grace. I think if they can grow big enough and fast enough to where they are a billion dollar plus company

and they do have a lot of power behind them and then they're giving so much back and doing so much work, that's gonna be the difference. I think that's what will make people go, well, wow, Amazon- Yeah, it's a distinctive characteristic that consumers are definitely gonna applaud. They're gonna wanna put their money into companies that they know are out there doing good things characteristics that consumers are definitely gonna applaud.

They're gonna wanna put their money into companies that they know are out there doing good things versus, because you see, I mean, you see these big companies getting massive, getting bigger and bigger, and it's like, now, it's all the more relevant to what they're actually doing with all this power and influence. And I think that, I think to your point,

so I think that's their only hope. And I think they're brilliant by doubling down on that, by putting in most of their efforts there, because there will come a time where Amazon will be as efficient or more efficient, and have you have as much access to the things that you are thrive. And so they're only saving grace will be,

well, it's not really that much cheaper or that much better. And I know that my money's going to this and I already have a great relationship with this company already. And so therefore, I feel like. Yeah, they do. Amazon has stopped their efforts acquiring as of late versus Walmart has been on a tear

acquiring companies. Dude, I got some, I got some information from a friend of mine that Walmart is invested, I don't know how much money, but a lot of money into creating their own cloud. Oh, really? Yeah. Wow, that's, that's definitely like tipping into Amazon space. I think Walmart is looking at Amazon and saying, let's rock a roll, because Walmart is a fucking beautiful Pepsi. Walmart is a fucking monster. That's a fucking monster.

Walmart is still a monster, still extremely profitable. Yeah. And Walmart and Amazon will be the two, the two, what do they call them, Titans? Colliding, you know? Yeah, Walmart always had that physical presence, you know, and they, And Walmart owns shipping too.

Yeah. People don't realize this, but Walmart. And they just acquired a shipping company that's like very competitive. They're monsters, they're monsters at it. You know, in fact't realize this, but Walmart. They just acquired a shipping company that's like, very competitive. They're monsters, they're monsters at it. You know, in fact, there was, I forgot what, was a hurricane Katrina, whatever, people were stranded without water.

It was Walmart that was able to get water to people. Yeah. But the government couldn't, because they had all these, yeah, these shipping lanes set up, so it's kind of nice. Yeah, they're super efficient, I mean, they've been around forever. So what did you guys think of that video I showed you earlier? Which one? The Dan she was.

No, this is a trick question, Sam. Which I remember the video I saw last. Randy Couture. Yeah, that one too. Oh my God, dude, because I watched, I love, okay, I don't, like, there's maybe two, maybe three podcasts that I listen to besides when I check up on whatever we're doing That to make sure we're not we don't sound like shit

Fighter in the kid I was literally crying like I was doubled over Laughing because they were breaking down Randy co-tours set leaked sex video and It was like it was so funny because they know the guy like personally and everything and they're like watching him Well, so the video handle themselves. Yeah, so Randy by the but Randy's tore my favorite fighter of all time Right greatest American hero. I think he said. Oh, he's such a badass. It's a leaked sex video of him You know handling is himself. Yeah, by himself and he's he's making it happen You know what though makes me feel better. It's like walking in on your parents going out. You know, he's,

okay, his, his, because Rannicka Torres like a superhero. He's like 40 something years old when he, when he was kicking people's asses in the UFC. Super jacked, you know, charismatic dude. And then you watch this video and you're like, oh, he looks like an average guy. Yeah, okay, you're doing,

you're doing average scenes for the average man. Yeah, that's great. But the, you know, it's funny, I think we've reached a time now in history where a sex video isn't that big of a deal. Like is anybody really care? No, we care. Could you have, like 20 years ago, if a video of a celebrity leaked

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Just the thing I'm always telling you. This motherfucker better start picking up the tab and shit. He looks good for 27 too. Yeah. He's got that mature look. Chris. The window's always open. So she has, so she's got, she's got Julio's phone

and then she has her other phone, right? Which is JJ Albany's right. So the company she works for and then she has her personal one, right? And the work one is 100% related to work beside Julio. which is JJ Albany's right, so the company she works for and then she has her personal one, right? And the work one is 100% related to work beside Tullio and that's what she uses it just for. And then her private one is, you know, anything goes, it's her private one,

where my niece has merged her two phones and to save money, because if the company's like Facebook that pay for you to have a second cell or work phone or whatever, you, what a lot of these kids will do is they'll just say, well, fuck it. I don't want to have two phones. I'll get the extra $100 a month in my pocket and I'll just merge the phones. But then all your private conversations and stuff like that. And the company, the company owns that phone and owns that. So they have access to that

anytime they want. And so everybody at dinner was like giving her a hard time. Like, don't you have photos and pictures you share with your boyfriend and she's like, yeah, no, I have it in there. And they're like, you know, the company could access any of that. Don't you think that's not very smart and they were going back and forth. And you could just tell that she doesn't really care. Like that people, and I guess someone who's working

for Facebook even more so than anybody else is like, you know, they already communicate there. She already knows what they have access to and they're in all your stuff. It's like, the generation coming up now just kind of feels like we put everything out there on social media so much that, you know, who cares? Yeah, you know what I'm saying?

Everybody has sex, everybody does, everyone sends naked pictures to their boyfriend or girlfriend. Yeah, but she's also a 20-something-year-old kid. Like, there's things that I definitely didn't care about in my 20s, then after I had kids, I was like, ooh, I hope that's fine. Oh yeah. No, I'm not defending her saying that that's smart by any means,

because you're right. But who's to say though that that's going to be the norm? Like we speculate about this, that politicians, like, oh my god, in 20 years, you're going to have all this information on them. But it'll be everybody. So I was so different about Trump. He couldn't, it just seemed bulletproof

in the fact that it didn't phase him. Right, don't you feel like he's the first wave of that, what we have to come, and I think the future presidents in 20, 30 years from now, it's like, oh yeah, there's a sex tape out of them. Oh yeah, he did, he was a, you shared, nudes online or he did this. So what?

So did all the other candidates. You know, I'm saying like it's going to, yeah, it's going to become, like it's not a big deal anymore because everybody did something stupid when they were 22 and put it on social media. And so who cares? Yeah, that's the same thing. That's what I think the same thing. I think it's going to be so irrelevant at some point.

Like nobody's going to care about your porn searches because I'll be able to look yours up too. You know, with a simple, you know, there's websites now by the way where you, people could look up your name and they could see like your arrests, your credit history, like they could find all kinds of information about you. It's kind of interesting when you think about like before,

like the evolution of like really clothes and stuff like that, that we're kind of going back to that, right? This, the seeing the naked body, seeing sexuality, all those things like that are becoming, they were so taboo before and now it's like, yeah, not a big deal. It's like any day I get on Instagram, I can see nudity like that.

Oh my God, are you kidding me? Like the average, I don't know, I don't wanna say average, but you look on Instagram and you see these fitness girls who are in their early 20s, their kids, their children. And they're doing poses and stuff in their Instagrams that 20 years ago would have been considered like soft core porn. You know what I'm saying?

Like bending over? Definitely on Skinamax. Exactly. And they're in their early 20s. And here's the crazy part. Back then, there was always this debate like like hey, would you like pose for playboy if they offered you five million dollars this big debate like I don't know be a big deal. I don't know if I do it. These kids are doing for free. Yeah They're not making shit. I know what that's so crazy. They have three thousand followers

You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and it's like and they're posing you know half naked on there and it's hilarious to me It's silly. I just for attention Well, I always wonder because I know everyone's chasing the American meme, you know, Paris Hilton type of model, which is, you know, get all this fame and then pivot into it. Fame was worthless. You don't want it.

If you can use it and leverage it to make a business out of it, that's fine, but you talk to anybody who's got fame and has a business out of it, they'll tell you they wish they could take the fame part of it. Well, I would just be interested to know, that's why I brought this up before about having one on the show, is because I don't think there's that much money in it for them either. I mean, how many things have you guys bought after,

you know, all the butthole models that you follow and you look at in the morning time, like how many of them have you purchased something that they are advertising? I don't know, I don't know. What? Yeah. We're trying to put us I don't know, I don't plan any. What? Yeah. We try to put us on blast. Yeah, that's all about that.

You know what he's doing, right Justin? Yeah, but you guys, you know, because you got in trouble this day. You're in the description. How long do you keep it? Yeah, he got in trouble the other day. So he's like, he's like, he's like, you're treated to the episode last night? Yeah, so everybody does this.

He's got his way worse than me, you know. They're following these girls. Yeah, no. They don't make any money. Contrary to the episode last night. See everybody does this. He's got a way worse than me. They're following these girls. Yeah, no. They don't make any money. What I'm saying is you can leverage fame to make some money if you're smart. But if you make money off of your fame,

I guarantee if you find somebody who's famous and makes money off their fame and you ask them secretly behind closed doors, do you wish you could have the same level of success but eliminate the fame part and be anonymous in private? Nine out of 10 of them, I guarantee you would say yes. Well, I think it depends on where they're at in that, and if they're in the rise or they've peaked already in it,

because I think if some people just want the fame. Yeah, that's where I'm arguing. I think if you get somebody who's on the rise and who's seeking that fame, they would say otherwise, they would say, oh, I love the fame, they love the attention. Maybe someone like a Paris Hilton or someone who's had all the fame, has all the money, been that and then is like, okay,

10 years of not being able to eat at a restaurant without a camera going off or someone interrupting you, okay, I'm over it now. I think, I don't even think it's cool for, think about that, it might be cool one or two times. After that, you're like, that's it think I don't even think it's cool for think about that It might be cool one or two times after that you're like that's it. I don't think about this way That's your personal opinion. Well, yeah, how about this look at this way you lived in a small town And I'm not disagreeing with you. Well, let me ask you this you lived in a small town. Yes. Yes So in a small town everybody knows everybody knows you. Yeah, I can't I couldn't drive down

There was one main strip so it was funny There's a thing that we used to do. I used to drive in my little lower Dacure Antagra and you would drive with a window down. And like I would, I would, I would rest my arm on the side of the window because literally every third car was somebody who you knew. Yeah, you just kind of, it's like how the, you know, like Harley's guys, when they go by or like a Jeep, a perfect Jeep person, passing the Jeep person. Yeah, when they kind of give them, but it's just how the, you know, like Harley's guys when they go by or like a Jeep, a perfect Jeep person passing the Jeep person.

Yeah, when they kind of give them, but it's just, you see so many people that you know in town, it's just, you know, it's just a courtesy, make sure you wave to it when you go by, you do that all day long. Yeah, I don't know, it's funny. It's silly to me. And it's just all, it's all a ego,

like all these kids who want all this attention for nothing, just so they can feel maybe better about themselves, but the reality is it's not, you don't really feel better. It's hollow. It's not a real type of attention. I'm saying it's just a bunch of people. Well, it's just an extension, an exaggeration of when we were kids and we wanted to be popular.

And we wanted to be, you know, well- It's a good like and get invited to all the cool parties. Instagram's the new high school. But you don't know that they put a metric to it now. Yeah, but you don't get invited to all the cool parties Instagram's the new high school. Now they put a metric to it now. Yeah, but you don't get invited to the cool parties anymore. You know, I'm saying you got okay, oh, I don't know. 1000 followers. Nobody's inviting you to anything.

Well, that's just because you don't know. Yeah, but it's I mean, you don't have 50,000. You're not cool. Let's get invited. That's all that they're still happening. I think I get invited. You really? Yeah.

I get invited. I get those invitations. You're the creepy old guy now. Yeah, that's it. A merit time has passed. A merit-id cycle. What was the thing on the forum that? Oh, yeah. No, someone said...

Oh, it's a question, actually. If we were a movie, what would we be? A spirit movie, what would we be? Our spirit movie. Yeah, and they suggest... I thought the accurate, dude. They said that you were a merit-id cycle, which is terrible. It's a spot on.

Mine is cheap. You know, when people try to do that for me, the cheap easy way is some like racist thing about being a tyrant, right? So it's my cousin video's your movie. That's easy. Yeah, but you're a better one. But you're a proud Italian, so it's not that.

I'm not, I'm American, I was born here. My parents are a tyrant. Yeah, but you have Italian pride in you for sure. I mean, you're fucking, I mean, Rocky, or the other one is a guy. Yeah, you, I would have assumed that that's too easy. But yeah, well, they put Bill and Ted's is perfect. Like that is like, I mean, I grew up, that was one of my favorite movies just because of the, uh, the dialogue,

the banter. It was just silly. Wild Stale. Yeah. Nilly, Nilly. Yeah. Dude, 100%. Yeah. I ain't waiting to roll their Bill and Ted's for you for sure. Yeah. I think I would. Wayne's world was great. Oh yeah, I loved Wayne's world. That was a great movie. Classic.

Rocky, I loved Rocky, but mainly he was a great love story. I know we've had this argument before. The first Rocky is one of the greatest love stories of all time. I mean, his delivery was totally true. Don't bring that argument back up. That went on for like three episodes, like 400 episodes ago or whatever. It was long time ago. It was probably like 700 episodes.

That was like one of the first debates on the forum that like grew a huge threat. We were really small. And I remember going back and forth and like you had like- We got a big argument over it. It was a big deal. I'm glad I won that one. I know, sticky dude. So American Psycho, that's the movie with what's his name?

Christian Bale. Yeah, and he's hella skinny and he's just sweaty. He's having sex with that girl. He's flexing and he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, while he's having sex stories like flexing and looking in the mirror, like, yeah. Yeah. I don't think I do that a lot. So good.

Yeah. Not every time. Yeah. You do that. You watch your son a lot. Not a lot. I'm going to bet sheets are all similar,, you know, the mirrors, I get it. Does he have silk sheets in that one?

I feel like he does. He's like, babe, why are you putting a mirror next to my head? Well, we're having sex. Don't worry about it, but it's not for you. It's not for you. I like to look at my face. Well, I have a fix. Fix bump in yourself.

Anyway, dude, that article I sent you on the cannabis recall. So what's the deal with that? I feel like and again you know another apology to me uh... this was yet another to do you forget all the ones where i was a right on something when we discussed way back when on the show about testing with

uh... like steep hill and these in these uh... outside companies for these cannabis and you would go in you would read all its twenty seven percent t h c this shit tell us wrong and i told you man they've been fucking outside companies for these cannabis and then you would go in and you would read, oh, it's 27% THC. This shit's Hell is strong. And I told you man, they've been fucking faking those tests for so long. You would what you would do is you and and this one's about pesticides, right? So what they recalled a whole bunch. I think it was over 10,000 or something pound. Yeah. Yeah, it was it was I think it was it was it was it didn't out 10,000 like a massive amount. Yeah, I thought it was like 850 But it was like so it was a lot right of of pounds of weed a big difference Well, so 850 pounds is a fuck ton of weed still. I mean whatever, you know 850 10 thousand

It's still a ton the point though that I was making back then was that and What this was was bad on the testing lab art? So supposedly the the lab that was testing was falsifying the documents for the push. Saying that they were passing, yes, they were passing. But I was saying that from the club perspective,

because this is what I controlled, we could easily manipulate that by providing the nug that I wanted to provide to be tested. And so, so it's not consistent with my question. Yeah, I mean, I could have a, I could have a massive tree that, that produced five pounds to seven pounds

of marijuana for me. And the bottom three quarters of it has got mold all over it and spider mites. But then I have a top cola over here. That's perfect because it's so big of a tree. And I could take that cola, I could send that in to get tested. Colas is a big nug.

Yeah, yeah. So I call it Dunki Dix too, don't they? Whoa. Yeah, it might be a slang name for it. Okay. Yeah. Colas is not a slang name in my house, that's the way. So you would, you would send that in and get it tested.

And if it turned out great, then you would say that this whole batch from this tree is at this percent THC and it's at this, it's this clean. Bro, it's 850 batches, which is tens of thousands of pounds. Okay, so it was 10 pounds. Yeah, so that are going to have to be returned and destroyed. So you know what's going to happen to the price of marijuana in California? It's going to go through the fucking roof because that's a lot of cannabis in these local dispensaries.

Now here's the thing, the reason why this happened is because the regulations are so strict and stringent on cannabis that they have to measure pesticides in parts per billion. And what they're arguing is that they don't even necessarily have equipment that can do that. And so again, this is, you know, this is again, this is, but is it the state overreaching, overstepping, yeah, and causing some insanity? So it's just going to strengthen the black market. The entire time that I have, the entire time that I was doing that stuff, it was always that. It's like, they, they passed some law or rule

that most people think, oh, this is good. Like, you know, we, if I would want my, my marijuana to be clean and safe, but they don't understand the repercussions of that, or they don't understand the logistics of that, that, oh, but there's nobody who owns. But it's impossible. Yeah, it's impossible to do. Nobody owns that machine.

So what did we really just do? Right now, we just drove the black market up. We literally just, and so they would do this all the time. I mean, they did that with all the taxation. When it got to a point where, like, well, legal, as it but taxed at 90%. Well, not legal. Right. So we were, I remember we were having to sell like an eighth of weed in order to just make the club operate, not to crush, not to make a ton of money just to operate like we are having to sell an eighth

of weed for like $60. And you could go on the street and get it for 40. And as good as good of product or better And so you know they did all this stuff and everyone's like oh celebrating like oh this is great We're you know Yeah, cuz what happens is you have a legal market that's so regulated that the black market then and the black market It's always competing with the with the legal market. That's what people don't realize is it's all a market It's black market legal market gray market doesn't matter. It's all a market And so the black black market, legal market, gray market, doesn't matter, it's all a market. And so the black market is competing with the legal market.

Now the legal market can outcompete the black market with quality, but if the price is super, super high, the wedel end of happening is the producers for the legal market will start going to the black market. Same quality, cheaper price. It's all competitive, it's all a market. And so when people pass regulations and they pass laws, they think, you know, economics is magical unicorns that, oh, if we pass a law

that says everybody should be rich, then that's it. Tomorrow, everyone's going to be rich. Or if we pass a law that says, all food needs to be like this, well, that's it. It's all going to be that way. No, you got to understand how this all works. and they're fucking it up, you know? Wasn't that one article you put on the forum about the standard oil? Yeah, all about that? Yeah, no, that was about that. That was about how there's a common story that, you know, there were monopolies that needed to get broken up

during the Industrial Revolution. It's actually, if you really look into it, it's not true at all. If you really look into the economics behind all that, and that's a whole nother. That's a different discussion. Yeah, that's a whole nother, different discussion. You know what, marijuana oil or oil,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no You know, I actually created it now speaking of cannabis. You've been off or reduced your your consumption for quite a while now Did you take the new testosterone test? I just I just took it this morning. Yeah, I took it this morning I got to send it off so now you suspect that it's higher now it feels higher Yeah, I don't know could could Trina think so Because of my sex drive, but I I'm pretty sure you're not doing anything so, because of my sex drive, but I speculated this with you. I'm very interested to see this test. I mean, I can't...

Because remember what happened to me? I did the Everly Well Test two times, and it was always pretty stable right in the middle, I would say, where it's supposed to be. Then I reduced my cannabis considerably for about three months. Then I went and took another Everly Well test, and my number was much higher. Well, I'm glad you brought up Everly Well right now, because you just reminded me of something,

a thread that I saw on the forum that I think we should address. And there was some people that were giving pushback that oh, there's a lot of things that are coming out in the news in regards to a lot of these at-home tests and the food sensitivity tests. What are we talking about? And how accurate they can be. Yeah, so food sensitivity tests,

the way that they work is they'll take a blood sample and they'll measure, I believe they're called IgG antibodies, which are different than the antibodies that cause a allergic reaction. So when they're testing for an allergic reaction, I believe they're testing for IgE antibodies. Now, when you have a food intolerance, it's not an allergy, right?

So if I eat gluten, for example, I don't get anaphylactic shock, I don't get hives and swelling and all that stuff. But I start to get the digestional issues, and if I keep pushing it, I notice skin issues and stuff like that. So it's a different type of an immune reaction that we label as an intolerance. And there's definitely a connection between IgG antibodies and intolerances.

The problem is, it's not as clear cut as that because there's such a complex array of things that's happening in your body when you react to food that you can't just narrow down to, do you have't just narrow down to, do you have these types of antibodies to that type of food? Now that being said, which is why these food sensitivity tests are not foolproof. So like, everybody well makes these food sensitivity tests where you can take it and it'll tell you foods that you have demonstrated to have these types of antibodies to. It's not perfect.

We've known this for a long time, but what it is, is it's a good starting point. Well, this is my response to this and why I wanted to bring it up is, it's so funny when people get like this. They expect all these things to be so perfect and they want it to be accurate. And they use that as like this, like, oh, I wasn't successful because of that.

It reminds me like the Fitbit argument. Like it's, who cares if it's not a hundred percent accurate to what you're, what you're testing for? What it does, a great job though, is help point people in the right direction of something you would have no fucking idea about, had you not done that. And the same thing goes with the Fitbit stuff.

Like who cares if it's 500 calories difference of what your real maintenance caloric level is, you wouldn't even know that if you didn't start tracking. You wouldn't have any idea at all. Yeah, you wouldn't have any idea at all if you didn't use that tool. We now have very cool tools now that allow us like through a company like every well to test all these things to help enlighten you on something that you may be missing that you had no fucking idea. Like to me, that is, to me, that's worth a hundred dollars. Well, so this is a no fucking, or forty dollars for half a test. So this is how I would use the Everly Well food sensitivity test because the gold standard

is still the elimination diet, which literally means you eliminate most foods, except for the ones you're pretty positive you don't have an intolerance to, which literally means you eliminate most foods, except for the ones you're pretty positive you don't have it in tolerance to, which sometimes means people go carnivore. Like sometimes it means people go carnivore and eliminate everything and then slowly reintroduce one food at a time. Now that sounds tedious, it sounds like it takes a long time, it's pain in the ass, it's very disruptive on your life, because it is. So when you take a food sensitivity test through's a pain in the ass, it's very disruptive on your life, because it is.

So when you take a food sensitivity test through a company like Everly Well, you take the test, it points out a good place to start. So what I would do is I take the test, I go through the list of foods that says I'm intolerant to, and I would eliminate those and start there. So now I don't have to eliminate everything. Oh, much more simple.

It's a lot easier. I was gonna ask you, because I'm not familiar. I've heard this thrown around quite a bit by our functional medicine people that come in. The FODMAPs protocol. Like, what does that entail? Do you know the details?

I forgot what FODMAP stands for, but these are, I think it's fructons, oleo saccharides. I can't remember what it's all, it's all, die, something, anyway. FODMAP stands for a group of things in food that tend to have, it's an abbreviation referring to fermentable,

oligosaccharides, diaccharides, monosaccharides, and polyols. So, with these foods tend to cause problems in people. So, this is another good place to start. If you think you have food intolerances, go in a low FODMAP diet

and see if you get improvement, type of deal. Now, it's only the food general though. And it's only the food sensitivity test that this it's a little it's more the gray area. When you look when we talk about like what I just take what I just took the testosterone test. Well, that's accurate. It's supposed to be really accurate. Yeah, it's measuring your your free testosterone in your saliva. Okay, because that was what the thread was about one of the one of the ladies posted her, I forget who it was, posted her results and her test levels were pretty high. And I think her cortisol levels were pretty high. And she was kind of worried about it.

And she was also on some hormone treatments, I believe, which can definitely throw those things off, if I'm not mistaken. Oh yes, I don't remember the details of her, but I know she posted her results. It caused a big thread and then a lot of people that were kind of calling us out on they were surprised that we would attach ourselves to a company like this one,

so I wanted to address it. I think it's important that people understand that. We 100% support what everyone well is doing, and I think it's a great, great test, and 90% of the tests are extremely accurate, and then you have the exceptions of the role with the food sensitive, which there's just not a lot of really good things

out there to do that. But still, I think it's valuable. It's still extremely valuable information. This feedback is really important. You know, I'm like, I really appreciate what they're doing with that and like to to find and identify these things too, even with my kids like to find out specifics. You know, it really helps to then try to foster more of a healthy.

I make all my family and friends take them. I know freaking Inzo just his dad bought what, 29? 26 tests for the family and so like that. Like, no, I highly recommend. Well look, here's the deal. You can definitely go to your doctor and you can have them prescribe you a host of blood tests and those are gonna be very accurate, obviously.

Here's the problem, you gotta go through your doctor to do it, it's a pain in the ass to do, you gotta go to the laboratory to do it, and then here's the part that I don't like. When I do tests on my hormones and stuff, I like to change my lifestyle and then see what's making me feel better and what's affecting me.

Now you gotta go back to your doctor and be like, hey doc, I know I just had a blood test two months ago, but I just changed this about my diet, can I get another blood test to see if it affected me? You know what your doctor and be like, hey, doc, I know I just had a blood test two months ago, but I just changed this about my diet. Can I get another blood test to see if it affected me? You know what your doctor is gonna say? No. They're all gonna say, well, do you feel different? Well, I think I feel different.

No, we're not gonna give you, you know how big of a pain in the ass. So it's like a year. Yeah, exactly. What I like to do with the Everly Well Test is, a test is $50 to $100. I'll order five of them. And that's the whole year.

And then I'll do one testosterone test every two or three months, I'll order five of them, and that's the whole year. And then I'll do one testosterone test every two or three months and I'll change things in my diet, I'll change my sleep, I'll change my cannabis consumption, I'll take these supplements, here's another one. There's testosterone boosters, one of the largest segment of the muscle building's supplement market, these testosterone boosters.

And for women, there's a huge segment with these hormone balancers like if you're estrogen dominant or if you're progesterone is all whatever take these herbs and pills and they're supposed to help balance you out You don't know for sure unless you test it Well, how nice is it to have a at-home test where you can actually take a testosterone booster for a month Take the everly well test and be like didn't't do anything for me and never buying that again. Right. You see what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah, what's really working. Exactly. Exactly. Like I wouldn't have known. I did know that I felt different when I really reduced cannabis and changed my diet because I also I changed my diet.

I'm just focused on sleep. You know, and like see what that just did for me. Exactly. You just weighed out. Of all the things that you can monitor that will affect your fitness progress, including building muscle, burning body fat, and athletic performance in the jammer on the field,

you have nutrition, obviously, activity, obviously, your sleep, obviously, lifestyle, obviously, and your hormones. That's the other big one. But we go by feel, which is important. You always want to go by feel, but also you just, you might not know, like how shitty would it be that you're,

let's say you're trying, and I've done this with clients before where they're busting their ass, they're working out, doing nutrition. It's just not, some's not right, it's not working, they're holding lots of water, their water fluctuation is crazy every time they get on the period. Like way more than normal, appetite seems crazy.

We're looking at all the factors we can control, can't figure it out. They will get hormone tested and they figure, oh wow, look at this, there's a few things that are off that I would not have known otherwise. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's very valuable. So whatever.

Anyway. Anyway, there's some good rant. No, no, no, no, I wanted to address it. I saw it in the form of it. Yeah, so I wanted to bring something up that I thought was fascinating. So the other day, we brought up, like at home fitness equipment,

like, you know, scene on TV fitness equipment, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. And we were making fun of some of them and you know, how they're all pretty much garbage, okay? So I looked up the shake weight. I was on a walk this morning with Jessica. Don't tell me you're defending it, right? No, no, no, hold on a second.

So I'm on a walk with Jessica and I was telling her about this. And I'm like, you know, I said, oh, it was cold, it's cold this morning. She goes, I wish I had a blanket with sleeves. And I'm like, well, they did invent that. It was the snuggie. Yeah, snuggie.

Yeah, and I'm like, could you imagine if you like,. It was the snuggie. Yeah, snuggie. Yeah. And I'm like, could you imagine if you like, if you invented the snuggie, made all this money, move into this amazing neighborhood, big old mansion, your neighbors come up to you. They're all snuggie, man. They're all successful. And they're like, oh, what do you do for a living? You're like, how embarrassing.

I'm like, oh, I invented the snuggies. You know what I mean? And we were laughing. She's like, they don't make that much money. And so we had this debate. And I'm like, yes, they do. Oh my god, you kidding? I'm like, they make a make that much money. And so we had this debate, I'm like, yes they do. Oh my God, you kidding me? I'm like, they make a ton of money.

So I said, the guy who invented or the girl who invented the shake weight became a multi-millionaire. She's like, no way. There's no way she's like, it's a shitty, it doesn't work. I said, I guarantee it. So I looked it up.

The shake weight, ready for this? It broke a bunch of, it broke a bunch of records. In 2010, eight years ago. 2010, $40 million in sales. Wow. Look up the thigh master. Oh, that one's billion.

It beats all of them. Yeah, billions. All of them. The shittiest product ever known to the fitness space. It's a spring. I don't know. It goes between your fucking, shit, shit, wait, is it fucking close?

Shit, wait, it's like, it's got that ironic, funny, you know, like people buy it as a joke. It's the same thing with the snuggie like, yeah, jokes on you, that guy just made an ask ton of money all at your expense. So that was in 2010. 2010, $40 million in sales. Did it show where they're at now or? No, I didn't look at it. Because you're right.

I mean, I've bought at least three shake weights as like joke gifts. Did you really? You bought one at Walmart for a video. It's like, what am I doing? Yeah, no, we've bought them, we've bought them as like prank gifts for sure. Wow.

So that's pretty crazy when you think about that. Like, you know, you know, you know, market for that. Yeah, if you want, you make something just stupid and ridiculous, like people will buy it. I'm telling you. Yeah, all the idiots will buy it thinking it actually works and then the, then the other half of people will buy it. I'm telling you guys. All the idiots will buy it, thinking it actually works,

and then the, then the, another half of us will buy it. They get it as far. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you get people that are like, oh, that's just sounds like shit. Yeah, that's a bug. I could get, I was by doing this.

Yeah. There you go. Four million dollars. Piece of crap, piece of crap. Perfect. This equipment. Wow. And dumbbells, you know,

dumbbells don't make nearly as much. I wondered too if that person did something like, I think there's a lot of companies and people that do the ass scene on TV and they do multiple products. Of course. Because once you have the formula down, you get it, you're like, oh, all I have to do is I've got all the connections,

I have the relations to get into. It's a hack. Yeah, it's a hack, total hack. And it's like, now it's really, I gotta come up with a cool commercial, get some sexy, rip guy and, you know, dark and sweat running down his abs and he could be doing anything and I'll sell X amount of them, like brilliant, dude. Absolutely.

That really is. The formula, did it still exist? Did you guys, are you guys looking forward to the John Jones fight? Oh, didn't he get, didn't he? Yeah, I can't. Brom's so over that motherfucker. Right. I'm so over. How can you do? How can you fuck up many times? It's the same substance. It's the tarantum I believe that they found the trace elements of that from, I mean, his original argument

was that it was in the supplement, right? And so it's the same substance they found the second time, like, like, how does that even happen? Like, and they're saying that, well, maybe speculative wise, that it still is in his system and they were targeting that specific substance, but like, to have it for that, it's been a really long time. Yes, it has.

Well, the rumor is that Dana's trying to cover it all up just to still make it happen. Yep. Don't they moving it to somewhere else? Yeah, they moved it into California, so that way they get away from Ustadah and all the regulations in Nevada. Wow. So they're able to kind of work around that.

So they can follow. I don't get that. If you're at that high of a level, people are already watching. You got fucked up. Didn't you get, he popped for drugs for antibiotics. He got popped for cocaine, didn't he? Yeah. Well, after listening to Romano and the interview we did with him,

you know, he really kind of changed my perspective on it. It seems to me that almost everybody, if damn, if not damn near 90% of everybody is taking everything and anything. It's just someone had a passive. Yeah, just some of these motherfuckers actually spend the money in time and hire the right people to help them pass it correctly. And then the other ones are just idiots. He needs to fire that guy. Yeah, right. He is.

That's what I'm saying. Whoever not doing a good job, whoever John's listening to, to get him to pass these tests is, you know, he was probably like, oh, dude, they found this. They'll never like, you know, trace this substance again. Let's go for it. This time it'll work. So he's the same guy. The same guy that makes this safe combination 1, 2, 3, 4.

They'll never guess that. That's too obvious. Nobody would ever think. Nobody would guess this. They think in only an idiot would guess that. Test for that same substance. Yeah, right. Did I ever share on this podcast when I was moving?

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That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. First question is from Matt Beat Drum. Please explain the benefits of a front squat over a back squat. You know what? What is the difference? Enough, I really think front squats are not praised enough. No, there's a hard, bro.

They are hard. We talk so much about back squats. You know awesome they are. Front squats. People avoid hard things. Front squats are the incline barbell press of the bench press. It's like the ugly stepchild that nobody likes to do because they're not as good at it as they are flat bench.

Flat bench is, you can do most people can do significantly more on the flat bench. Therefore, they neglect the incline. But I tell you what, I've talked about it on the show before. Some of the greatest gains I ever saw on my chest was when I put the same effort towards my incline chest press as I did as a flat bench, huge difference on my chest. I felt the same way about front squats. Front squats are one of those things that, man, I saw some of my biggest gains

when I really started to push the front squats to see if I could get my strength up in that. When I was pushing over 315 on front squats, man, I felt like my quads blew up. Yep, same. But it's challenging, right? It's like you're always probably going to be able to do a little bit more. It's not technical.

A lot more on the back squat. So people always gravitate towards it. And there's ways to get around it. There's ways of folding your arms and resting the bar up on your shoulders and all that kind of stuff. You don't have wrist mobility. But I'm always in the camp of trying to learn the proper way of doing the technique.

And so there's ways of accomplishing what you wanna accomplish with it too by adding towels and getting a grip there to get your elbows up in the right position. And so there's ways to approach, I just feel like it is, there's a barrier there because it is a higher skill to learn it. You know, I'm gonna debate the higher skill aspect of it because I think the reason why it's more difficult

for people is they don't do it. They don't do it because think about it this way. I'm gonna make a point here. When I train deconditioned clients or people who don't work out and they're new to exercise or even people in advanced age, I start them out with a front squat before I do a back squat. Now I'm not doing weight, like they don't have a barbell across the front of their shoulders,

but it's a broomstick and the way I'm putting the broomstick across the front of their shoulders with their arms straight out in front of them before I'm putting anything on their back. Because doing a back squat also requires a lot of shoulder mobility, different type of core strength. A front squat is, front loaded squats are arguably more natural and maybe even more functional for the average person. Think about it.

You carry things in front of you. You know what I'm putting things down. Nobody ever takes a couch and throws it on their back. Yeah, no, you pick it up in front of you and you carry it. You carry things in front of you. You know, you know, one put things down. Nobody ever takes a couch and throws it on our back. Yeah, no, you pick it up in front of you and you carry it. So sure, but it's way more uncomfortable. And less you have in terms of like your your shoulder mobility, that could be a huge barrier for backloaded squats. But you know, in terms of like rests and just the placement of it, like a lot of people are very turned off by

that. So it's like they avoid it. Well, you're talking about the Olympic living, the real one. The real one, right? I, the way a lot of people can do it, I think, is at the cross grip, the old school body building style, which you can still use,

and it's still gonna give you a lot of the benefit. Or, I mean, a goblet squat is literally a front squat. That's right. It's a variation of it, because the way you're cupping. That's the best way to approach it, yeah, if it's any limitation. There's also getting a little more technical

on the benefits of it. So obviously you are putting a little more emphasis on the front of the body, right? So your quads and your core, your abdominals are having to work more than if it was on your back. So there's the big difference there. I mean, you're much more of an upright squat. Yeah, which that's why I actually love to teach it because a lot of people who

never really squat it before. And when you get them on a back loaded squat, fold, you know, they fold over. They let their chest fall way too far forward and compromise their low back. Where if you do a front squat, you have to be upright. You can't hold the bar up there unless you are upright. So to me, it's actually an exercise like you, Sal, I like to teach early on. So I'm either teaching a front squat or a goblet squat to a version of a front squat first to teach those good mechanics of sitting upright and tall so

they can feel like and that you'll notice too most people can get a lot deeper with that into a squat on a front loaded squat and they can't a back loaded squat years ago I went through a period where I wanted to get really good at a front squat so at this point I had gotten now is a lot heavier at this back when I would bulk up and stuff and I had gotten my back squat up to 420 or 430, something like that, it was in the low 400s, which is a lot of weight for me. I'm not a huge squatter, but my front squat was terrible because I never did it.

So I would go front squat, you know, two plates, and I just didn't feel stable or strong. And so I thought to myself, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna not do any back squats for a while. I'm gonna just try and get really good at doing front squats. And so I treated front squats as a strength move. And I got my front squat up quite a bit. I got it up to the point where I was doing the mid-300s for really low reps, you know, three reps or whatever. My legs got... Oh, I should explode.

Oh, incredible gains in my legs. Yeah. And now keep in mind, I was still deadlifting at the time. I was still doing Romanian deadlifts. I was still doing my normal conventional deadlifts. I was still doing good mornings. So whatever posture your chain, I was losing from not doing the back squats. I was easily making up for with the deadlifts and stuff.

But here's the crazy part. When I went back to back squats, my back squats felt very, very strong. And it's very similar to your story with the flat bench and the incline press. You go back to the flat bench and you're real strong. I think, now, this wasn't true for a long time. What I'm about to say, but it's becoming more and more true today.

Now people know the value of a back squat. They know that it's the king of all exercises. One of the best exercises you could do, but now with that, people are, I think they're ab that it's the king of all exercises, one of the best exercises you could do. But now with that, people are, I think they're abusing it in the sense that that's all they do and they forget that they can get benefits from doing well. And I think we had to highlight the fact that how the importance of the posterior chain and there's really like the, the main, you know, two with back loaded squats in, in dead lifts like accomplish that.

And it's, it's one of those things that because, like even especially in athletics, like you could see like an immediate sort of transfer and carryover of a front loaded squat or even a heel raised front loaded squat and how that applies to strength and performance on the field versus like, you know, the importance of the posterior chain

and really getting that involved, you know, and stabilizing and so I think that it just got more highlighted as a need and then just became, you know, more of the emphasis. One of the best workouts I ever did just for overall leg mass and size. And you guys know my upper legs can get pretty, pretty big.

One of my best workouts ever was back squats to front squats to Romanian deadlift. Like that workout right there. And that's a monster. That's a monster right there. So if you're listening and you're like, well, I wanna try that. Don't do it unless you have good strength.

You're pretty advanced because it'll mess you up. But that's one of the best combinations I've ever done for my leg development. But like I said, I really do think that the front squat doesn't get the credit that it deserves. It's one of the top five best exercises in my personal opinion. It's interesting.

I think I actually front squatted more than I back squatted throughout. If I were to add it up, just because you did so many clean stuff. Exactly, exactly. That was a major focus. And it definitely helped my back squat, of course. Obviously.

Well, I mean, it makes sense. You're the best squatter at all of us, for sure. I mean, strength wise, I mean, you have the best looking squat out of all three of us. And I'm sure that all those years of front squatting definitely attributed to that. Definitely. And however rare a back squat used to be in the gyms, the front squat was even more rare.

Nobody ever front-squatted. Today, do you guys see anybody doing front squats in the gyms? Adam, you're more likely to go to a commercial gym. Every time I've gone. Front-squatting? Yeah, I don't see a whole lot. Yeah, I mean, you do. You see it.

I mean, I'm still blown away by what I see in the gym today that compared to when we first started. Like, it's cool. I think it's really neat to see. You see a lot of deadlifting and squatting front and back. Now, you don't see like unconventional things that we teach in some archers. Yeah, you don't see, yeah, anytime I see something like that,

I almost like, whoa, yeah, I want to feel this as, at any time I see something like that, I almost like, whoa, zertricks squad. I wonder if you listen. A Z-Press, I almost always approach them because I'm like, it's nine times that attendance of Mind Pump Listener who's heard of the show or seen one of us post something like that. So it's rare, not to say that everybody who fucking zertricks squad

or Z-Press is listening to Mind Pump, but at least in my neck of the woods, I never saw those movements and when I do see it, but you'll still see, there's a lot of guys that are, and girls that are inside the golds that I'm at, or the old golds, which is American barbell now, that is, they train for competition.

So most of them are definitely front squatting. I mean, that's a staple move for a competitive lifter, for sure, is. Definitely. Justin, you had said something about heel raised front squats. Yeah. That is a quad blaster. Destroyer.

Blaster. That's one of my favorites. That's an old school exercise. That was in the 70s and 80s bodybuilders did those all the time, especially in the 70s. Well, a lot of, and I really want to get one of the Marinavitches on the show. I know Adam, you have some lead on that, but that was one of those exercises that was highlighted

for their athletes because of getting the guys to be more grounded off the forefoot and drive all their forces to their forefoot. Because you're never flat-footed in the sport. No, if you really want to think about it and be like, okay, well, what applies the most towards any sport where you're running, jumping, cutting, going multiple directions,

like you do not want to be on your heels. Ever, like if you're on any team, your coach is always like, you know, get up off your heels. And you're knocked on your ass if you're on your... Exactly. And that's the truth for grappling on martial arts as well, you know, depending on the position.

Right. But if you're, here's how you do it at the gym. It's very easy. You just take a couple of 10 pound plates, put them underneath your heels. You still want to push through your whole foot. So you're not balancing on your toes and then do your front squats and watch what happens.

It really gives you more knee flexion and extension, really hits the quads, really, really hard, hard. And make sure when you're doing your front squat, that you keep your elbows really elevated. This is where people mess up, is that they let their elbows drop and then it gets uncomfortable because the bar wants to roll down their arms and then you're screwed. Keep the elbows up really, really hard. That's the first cue that I teach in a front squat is elbows up. As soon as you drop down and that's the first thing you just want to naturally let the arms come down.

You're going to think about keeping the elbows up the entire time. Next question is from Mark L.00000. How do you train a very obese client who is very disobedient and does not like resistance training? I like the word, the, how he's disobedient. He's disobedient. He hear like the frustration in the trainer right there. I used to be like this.

Disobeying me. If I could go back in time and communicate to myself as an early trainer, this is definitely one of the things I would say to myself. I used to get so frustrated with clients because the way I would look at it is you hired me to help you get into shape. And now you don't wanna do what I'm telling you.

And I used to actually think to myself, like, we'll screw them, I'm gonna get rid of my clients and get someone who's really serious. Like, if you're gonna hire me and you want to get in shape, either do what I say or hire somebody else or what I used to think of. My way or the highway. Right, or I would have this ego thing

where I'm like, well, if they're my client and they're not having good results, that looks bad on me. So maybe I'll get rid of them or whatever. I remember thinking like that and it was years later that I actually realized that the folly and that type of thinking and the folly really was, you know, you have to consider this when you're training somebody in this position, somebody's really obese, their level of awareness and understanding

is so much smaller than yours in respect to their health and fitness. It's a very, very, very small amount of awareness. And so for them, just showing up to the gym twice a week is a big step. It's a really big step. You're actually, they've actually made a major change in their life just by showing up and working out with you twice a week.

Now, our expectations are high because our awareness is much higher. Like, if you tell me, if somebody said me, Sal, don't drink soda anymore. Like, no problem, easy. I already don't drink soda, it's not a problem. Because of my level of awareness with that. But you tell somebody else who's been drinking soda

two or three times a day for the last 15 years, telling them to completely eliminate soda, that's a big deal, it's a very, very big deal to them. Now, I've reversed this on myself. There's been times where I've looked at very successful people in business, for example, and I think, gosh, how did they accomplish all that? That's so crazy, I think to myself,

it's no different than when people look at me and think, wow, it's so crazy that you can maintain your fitness for the rest of your life. It's like, no, it's just, it's the same application, one step at a time, little by little, and consistency. And so my approach changed with my clients to where I would start to say to myself, like, okay, they may not be changing their diet yet,

they may not be doing other things yet, but they're working out twice a week with me, which is way more than they were doing before. So let's be happy with that, let's start with that, and then let's see what happens. The result of changing my approach was, clients stayed with me for long periods of time, and although many times it took a long time

for them to see progress, they eventually did progress and they made lifelong changes, which is what I was not getting before. Yeah, and I think I could totally identify with this. I have kind of a funny story. My one of my long-term clients that I was so appreciative of, he basically helped me transition from 24-hour fitness to independent and was a major part of like helping me out with my business. And so he actually helped to kind of pay

for my first run of T-shirts. At the time, I thought T-shirts was a good idea to advertise myself. And so, what was your brand name? Remedy trainer, which lame, right? No, that's good. Remedy. But anyway, yeah, I don't like it now that I think back But anyway auto-changes self-conscious. Yeah, it's very insecure. Terrible. My decision is back then

You guys stop judging me So I put this aside shirt and And of course he he's rocking one, you know. He's very proud to be a professor that I'm his trainer and what great results he's had and he lost all his weight and all this stuff. What he can do now, he'd show off and stuff in the gym all the time and do push-ups on balls and crazy shit that at the time I had him do just for fun. He would just not listen to what I would tell him to do nutritionally. And he used to irritate the shit out of me.

And he was getting all this great progress. It was super happy and with the strength gains in his energy. And you could tell he's got this testosterone and everything. Again, he's an older guy. But he was gaining weight. And he was gaining weight all in his stomach. And he's rocking my shirt. And he's out there in public.

And he's giving people my cards. And he's like, yeah, he's so great, he's great. And he's doing it every day. He's getting fatter and fatter. And I'm just like, ah, it's not like ripped a shirt off. But I got over, I'm like, look, you know, he is getting results that he's super stoked on. Like, I'm judging him because what I want out of him.

Like, I want him to be an example, like a physical example of my training as opposed to what was really benefiting him the most, which was psychologically, which was strength wise, which was longevity, like all these other factors that he was getting from the training with me and was stoked on it. And I was the one that had the issue. Yeah, you know, you get lower your expectations man. It's was the one that had the issue. Yeah, it's, you know, you get to lower your expectations,

man. It's in it's hard to do that because you're a new trainer. Yeah. And you know what you're capable of, you know, you know, how you could help them, you know, you have the answers to it, but at the end of the day, if they don't, if they don't want to do it and they don't want to put the work in, there's nothing that you can, can really say or do. They have to first want that bad enough to put the work in. This is part of what actually made me not like training. Like when I had to train, when I had to have a full schedule to pay the bills, like when I relied on X amount of people to be training, I remember this was one of the things that I got, I first got tired of was I got tired of having to train people who I felt like really weren't ready yet.

They weren't in the mental space to put the work and effort in that it would take to get to the place they needed to be. And that was really challenging for me because then I always felt like, man, there's so many people out there that do want the help, that do want to learn, that we'll put in the work that I'm not sitting in front of right now, instead I'm sitting in front of this client that I'm constantly having to trick into doing things right or convince them that they need to do these things,

I'm telling them and fighting them this whole way, when it's their health, it's their journey, it's like, and that's the passion as a trainer, right? You want to help them so bad, but if they don't want to help themselves, there's nothing you can do. So later in my career, I just, I did, I learned to lower my expectations.

Like that's my expectation. I expect like you want to, you have to lose 100, you need a hundred pounds off you. I know I can do that, like I want you to do it. Well, maybe they really don't, maybe they say it, but really deep inside, they just want to feel better, maybe they really don't. Maybe they say it, but really deep inside They just want to feel better or they want to just feel like they're doing something about it And if that means coming to the gym and getting some exercises done with you

Maybe they are a lot happier with just that then then the losing the extra extra pounds And so I stopped trying to push my agenda on clients But yet I was ready to have that conversation if they ever said like if you were three months in a training with me, you bought a hundred sessions and you're not down anyway and you're looking back at me going like, hey, what the fuck dude? Like, you know, I hired you to do all this stuff

and I would look right back at him, and said, well, you're not wanting to do the things that I'm telling you, you need to do. And you still gotta be honest. Yeah. And I'm okay with that as your trainer. I'm okay with, because I know I'm telling you, you need to do. And you still gotta be honest. Yeah. And I'm okay with that as your trainer. I'm okay with, because I know I'm providing some value. I know that you, like you said, so without me, you wouldn't be coming to gym two times

a week. Without me, you wouldn't be working on these exercise that are building strength, that are increasing stamina, that increasing energy that are probably helping your sex drive, helping you mentally. Like, I know that I'm providing value, so I can rest at night knowing that I'm doing a good job. If you're not following what I'm telling you to do nutritionally, like, I'm not gonna waste my time always fighting you on that. You gotta wanna do it first

and then I can provide you the resources. Yeah, absolutely. You gotta realize that everybody's journey is their journey. And what they have a challenge with is very challenging for them. It may not be challenging to you, but I can pretty much guarantee you, you think you're such an awesome person, such a badass. I bet you I can find something

that you would find extremely challenging that somebody else would think it's easy. Well, you gave a great analogy, so by relating it to like these really highly successful people in business, and if you were by relating it to like these really success, highly successful people in business. And if you were sitting here talking to all these billionaires and all of them are saying, listen, the formula for me was five years of my life, I didn't take a day off,

I got up at four o'clock in the morning, I did these thing and they kept telling you this and you're like not getting up at four o'clock in the morning, you're not working seven days a week and you're still going like, why am I not a millionaire? Well, it's like the every one of these guys that are talking to you are telling you, they worked harder than they ever worked in their lives.

They got up earlier than they ever got in their life and you're not applying that, but yet you still are saying you wanna be this millionaire. Well, you're not utilizing the information that's been given to you by people that have done that before that are wise. I mean, maybe you really don't want to be a millionaire that bad, maybe you enjoy sleeping in more

and you're freedom and your family time and flexibility more, and there's nothing wrong with that. That's the same thing with this obese person. It's like, just because you think they should be a hundred pounds lighter, doesn't necessarily mean they really think it. Maybe they just want to feel a little bit better than what they did six months ago.

And it is a journey and many times, I had one client who wanted to lose, hired me because he wanted to lose 40 pounds. Do you know when he lost the 40 pounds? 40 years later. And he lost it in like four months. Like literally finally clicked. It clicked.

Like it took a long time to get him to be consistent with his workouts to me. And then little by little he started working out on his own. And then little by little he started started working out on his own. And then little by little, he started being more active just in everyday life. And then he started to cut out soda a little bit, and then he looked at his sugar and take a little bit, and it was really small changes.

And then one day, it literally was like a light bulb went off, because he'd been working out with me for three and a half years. He'd developed his good relationship with exercise and fitness. He'd developed his good relationship with the and fitness, he'd developed this good relationship with the gym and nutrition, and his nutrition, a relationship was changing, and then all of a sudden, it was literally like a life. I have so many examples of that with the clients I've trained.

It's just somewhere along the line, every seed that you've planted, all of a sudden, like it starts to sprout. You get excited and you're like, oh my God, that's where you did your job. You did your job planting, you fostered it. And now like it's finally, you know, coming to fruition. You know, it's that whole saying,

like you need a horse to water, we can't make a drink. It's so true. If you can still say that. And you guys think what's your desired result? Like what's my desired result with this person? Is it to get them to lose this weight now and then gain it back later and for them not to achieve long-term real success and fundamental change? Or if I really want to help them, if you're being honest and you're a trainer like, I really

want to help people. All right, let's be honest. You really want to help them. How do you want to help them? Do you want them to have lifelong changes? Of course you do. Well then it's gonna take a while because real fundamental change to your life is fucking hard.

And for a lot of people, it takes a long time. And these people who I'm talking about, I still in contact, the guy I told you, that I'm talking about right now, it took him four years to lose 30-something pounds or 40 pounds, I still talked to him. That was eight years ago, and guess what? He still hasn't gained the way back.

And he still works out even though he's in training with me. This also reminds me of a very pivotal moment in my career as a trainer, which was when I started to really focus on the bigger rocks versus just what I've been taught, training-wise and nutrition-wise, and this was the introduction of back then, it was the body bug, and we were checking people's metabolism and their steps that they were taking in the day.

And I started to realize how little these really obese clients moved, that was what was contributing to them being overweight. It's like, and that's a really uphill battle. You come in, they see you for an hour, you train, you could train them hard as you want. But then the rest of the day, they go sit down at a desk all day long, it's really hard for

that single workout that you're doing to make that great of an impact on their life. What I found and I had a lot of success with this and it forever changed how I coach people was starting to speak to the other 23 hours that they weren't with me, which was related to just movement. And I found like, and I used to do this thing with clients like this, where I would take these stickers, right, and I would have them, I would tell them places in their house, like one on the refrigerator,

you know, one on a closet, one on a mirror in their bathroom, and I have them all, all of these places, and whenever they saw that, I would tell them, you know, like, do 10 body weight squats. Like, that's it, like're nothing crazy, not a huge goal that's gonna be able to work out, like, 10 body weight squats every time you saw that sticker.

And over the course of the day, that person might see those stickers five, six, seven times and someone doing, someone that overweight, doing 70 body weight squats in a day is a huge fucking life soon. Or I would say things like, hey, I want, you know, three times in the day, I want a 10 minute walk. Like, it's very small, achievable goals

that don't require a ton of effort and creating those habits. And it's also integrated into their life. Right. And it's something that you touched on so earlier, is something that's sustainable. I know that once they start, and then once they start to piece that together,

like, oh shit, maybe I just need to move more. And that's what's really keeping me from losing a lot of this weight. And they start to make that connection. You can start to slowly increase that over time. And then before you know it, you've taken somebody who moves 2,000 steps a day. And on average, now they're moving 10, 15, that that's fucking huge difference when it comes to weight loss for someone like that, and sustaining that weight loss. So that's something too that I would advise this person or this trainer is, you know,

I don't know how much of the outside of the gym that you're speaking to other than the nutrition piece, because you know, getting someone to adhere to, you know, a trainer's diet can be extremely challenging. This is also where I started to add to people's diet versus taking away, because like you said, against out two, is a, you got someone who's been drinking 15 coaks a day for the last 15 years of their life.

And then also, you put them on this tuna and crackers type of a diet that is completely foreign from how they would ever eat. Even if they stick to that for six months and lose a ton of weight, the likelihood that they will make that lifestyle change forever is very little. So instead of me taking a bunch of things away

from them and giving them this random diet, I would peer into their diet and see things that they should add to it that is going to enhance their nutrition. And then that's what I would do is start to implement better choices in there and then slowly pull away. Next question is from J.M.55987. My little brother is getting bullied at school quite a bit.

In the PC world we live in, where punching a bully is worse than actually the actual bullying, what would you suggest to your own kids to handle these situations? Yeah, you know, it's interesting nowadays where you can't even... Punch them in the face. You can't fight back. You know, there's a lot to learn in standing up for yourself. I mean, you can.

You're gonna get in trouble, but I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of that bubble taping going on everywhere. And I think that it's definitely changed a lot of the energy and the vibe when you go to the school. The kids seem like less aggressive, less violent than when we grew up, but at the same time,

like I don't know, I'm kind of old school to where well, I don't sometimes there's times where you need to handle things. I don't know, I'm kind of old school to where, well, I don't sometimes, there's times where you need to handle things. I don't think either one of you guys would punish either one of your kids if they came home and got suspended for a day or two, and you found out they were getting bullied and they got suspended

because they punched the kid in the face, would you? Well, no, well, what I've taught my kids is, if you get, if somebody hits you, then you have all my support to hit the math. 100%. You have to defend yourself. That's number one.

Let's look, you know what it reminds me of? It's like some of those laws in California, where if you have a gun in your house, someone breaks in, and if you shoot the intruder, he had to have shown that he was threatening your life, otherwise you could go to jail. Well, that's a chance I'm willing to take because the other alternative is,

if I don't do that and I don't know what's going on, then maybe they're gonna hurt my family or me, right? And so then I'd rather go to court than have to go to a funeral for somebody in my family. So, I tell my kids like, if somebody's gonna hit you, defend yourself. It's an important lesson to learn in life, by the way, to stand up for yourself.

You have to stand up for yourself. Yeah. If you don't have teeth, then nothing you do really is gonna make a big difference. It's not gonna matter. People feel like they can walk all over you. Yep. You're weak and you're gonna resent life. It reminds me of when we had Lane Norton on the show, and he talked about the intense bullying that he went through as a kid and how he was taught by his mom to never fight back.

That bullying had a terrible effect on his psyche. Obviously, he missed it. Look at him today. He's picking fights at 40 years old. I mean, you know, I think for last time. Imagine if back then, through all that, his mom said, stand up for yourself.

And if they do something to you, hit them back. I had an experience like this in junior high. I went to not the greatest junior high school and we had gangs and stuff at the school and these kids were, they outnumbered most of us who weren't in the gangs. And I stood up for myself. Now, when it ended up happening,

I got in a fight, then I got jumped, then I got in a fight again. And you know what, at that point, I think they realized that I was not a soft target, and could they jump me and beat me up, they could, but I think they realized that, just too much effort. Just too much effort and time,

and they ended up leaving me alone. He's easy to pick on somebody who's gonna fold and cry. Right, but beyond that, I learned a valuable lesson, because trust me, in order to stand up to a group of guys, we're gonna beat you up and look into it. Very scary as a kid. It scared the shit, it was terrified me.

Yeah. But it strengthened my character. Exactly. And I think if you're getting bullied, you don't necessarily need to throw the first punch, but you need to stand there and not back down. So what's, so in a time like today, like he's saying in this PC world we live in,

I'm assuming bullying looks different than what it was. Like when bullying for me, when I was a kid, it was like literally physically pushing me, throwing shit at me, you know what I'm saying? Like doing physical things to me. Physical, yeah, yeah, physically. Which made a lot of sense for me to all, call off and deque, right?

But what if this kid that he's taught, his little brother is dealing with like Instagram bullying and the calling names and racist stuff and picking on him virtually and bullying like that and calling names maybe and teasing. Some front him in real life. Yeah.

People who do this on the cyber world are actually massive cowards. Big time. Yeah, and if somebody's cyberbullying you or talking behind your back, this happens with girls a lot. Girls tend to bully differently than boys. Not always, but tend to, right?

Where they develop their clicks and they'll talk behind your back. And believe me, you walk up to one of these girls, if you're a girl and you're getting bullied and you walk straight up to them and you confront them in front of everybody, it's gonna make them feel real uncomfortable. And they're gonna, they're cowards, typically,

in the hours. Yeah, I'll lose you back. It reminds me a lot to, like, road rage. And like, for some reason, everybody gets balls of a sudden, you know, and lost, like, mess with you and everything. And then, when you get out of the car, they take off. Oh, okay.

Okay, you're one of those. Yeah, no, I would say stand up for yourself, let it be known that you won't tolerate the bullying, and then if they're being physical towards you, then be physical back. And unless it's a situation where you really feel threatened, but that's kind of rare, right? Well, if you like, okay, I need to hit first

because this is getting dangerous. But I also teach my guy, I've had this conversation with my kids. I don't think he'll ever be in this situation, but I've had this conversation where I'm like, okay, monitor the situation. There are situations where it may be smart to get the hell out of there,

because you don't want to, you know, I don't want you to get stabbed or something like that, but definitely be vocal and stand up for yourself. I really appreciate martial arts for this, and just the way that they teach the discipline of like when to use you know physical contact and you know violence in order to defend yourself and I don't know they have a lot that they can reach and grab if they are getting messed with by somebody that's physically overpowering them. What martial arts does is very rarely

will you have to actually use it in a fight nowadays. Very rarely will you have to actually bust out your moitire, your jits, or whatever. But what it does do is it makes you feel confident. Yeah. So now you can stand up. Yeah. Stand up for yourself. Tell the person, I'm not going to tolerate this. And because it gives you that confidence, because you have it in your back pocket. I remember when we interviewed Bishop Baron, I asked him about the Christian doctrine of turning the other cheek because it comes across as very pacifist.

Like, you're just gonna let someone walk all over you and he says no, because that's not what it means at all. It means if you get hit, you stand there. As if to say, I'm not backing down, hit me again, but I'm not backing down. Here's my other cheek. That's a very different understanding of what I thought. And it's effective.

People, people who tyranny's other people pray on the people, on week, they pray on people who aren't gonna say something, who aren't gonna do something. And this, by the way, this extends to other people. Like, if you, I've had this conversation with my kids as well and my dad taught me this, if you see someone else being hurt, if you see someone else being hurt,

if you see someone else being, someone stealing something from someone else, you just watching and not doing anything means that you're actually implicit, you need to, and let's feel like association. Unless you feel like there's, oh my gosh, this is a really dangerous situation. It's too dangerous for you.

He says, you know, because think about it this way, if people did that, how many less, like how far fewer would we have these terrible situations that happened? You know, if people just stood up and said, no, you know, think about it that way. Like the few people who tend to bully the world are outnumbered by the rest of us. Well, I'm saying. And I just, yeah, and I'm kind of like starting out with leading with that more these days,

just because there needs to be more checks. Like a lot of this bullying has gotten worse because they can hide. And to me, it's, there needs to be a resurgence of people that do stand up and aren't okay with it and aren't gonna with it and aren't going to tolerate activities like that. I'm not going to get mom to fight on my battles. You need to empower yourself. Yeah, I remember in elementary school, there was this kid, what was his name? Mike. I think his

name was Mike. And he was kind of a bad kid, right? And he would push people around or whatever. And this one day, I guess it was my turn to be picked on. And he got in my face and said something, and the school kind of surrounded us. And he was a lot bigger than me. And so I was very intimidated. And he told me to, you know, back down, you know, like, like, be a pussy, like, turn around and walk away, which I did.

I was intimidated. So I got scared and I walked away. And it ate at me. Yeah. It ate at me for that whole day. Like, I went home and I couldn't sleep and I made a plan. I said, tomorrow, I'm gonna go to school

and I'm gonna stand up to him. And if he tries to do something, I'm gonna throw a punch at him. And so that's exactly what happened. The next day, I stood up to him and if he tries to do something, I'm gonna throw a punch at him. And so that's exactly what happened the next day I stood up to him and I told him try doing that again. He pushed me, I pushed him back and I was up in his face and he actually didn't do anything and I think it's because you realize this is not worth the time or the effort.

But man, it was a, but it teaches you character to stand up. It's not just about getting the bully to stop bullying. It's also about building character in yourself to stand up for what you believe in because there's gonna be things that happen in life. I'm gonna talk on a grand scale now, where at one point, slavery was legal. At one point, segregation was legal.

At one point, the Jews were getting rounded up and put into under trains and shipped out. And I guarantee you there were a lot of people on the other side that were thinking themselves, like, oh, that's not, I don't think this, I don't agree with that. I don't really agree with that. You know, and there's going to be things that happen in society where you're a little bit afraid to speak out. Even though you know it's wrong, what's happening, I'm not gonna say anything. Like, you know, you gotta have that courage

to stand up and to say something, because if you don't have that, what are you? You know what I'm saying? You're nothing. So I think situations where you get bullied is a learning, it is a very painful, difficult lesson to learn, but it's a very valuable one. And so if your kid's getting bullied,

look at it that way. Like, he's gonna learn a very important lesson here. It's gonna build some character and it's gonna very valuable one and so if your kid's getting bullied look at it that way like he's gonna learn a very important lesson You're gonna build some character and it's gonna pay off later on definitely sucks to watch You know I hate it. Oh, it's the worst next question is from Ben Burdett What are each of your New Year's resolutions? You guys come up with any have you been thinking about this at all? I have a couple go then I have a couple this is I mean I know our listeners are hearing this, what, on New Year's Day or the day after New Year's,

but for us, this is what a couple of days before. So. I have some, so I used to be like against New Year's resolutions, because I'm like so stupid if you want to change something, just do it. And I was having this, you know, I was having this discussion the other day. And, you know, many times, marking periods of your life, like, let's say

you move, have you guys ever where you move? And they're like, you know what, I'm going to change this about myself. And the fact that you moved in your different place makes it easier for you to change that or a different environment or new set of momentum that that kind of mentality. Yeah. So I used to be against New Year's resolutions, but now I realize that they can be a powerful tool because it is a new year, it's all symbolic. Obviously there's really no difference, but it is a new year, so it can reinforce this belief

in yourself that okay, I'm gonna start brand new. I think the key though is to pick something that you know is challenging but realistic, because sometimes people pick the most insane news resolutions like, okay, this year for sure I'm losing 50 pounds. Yeah, it's like, okay, no. Yeah, start out with just not eating after midnight

or something like that, and I'll start with something small. So for me, one of them is I'm gonna do a lot more writing. It's something I enjoy doing, but it's also something that I have difficulty doing when I feel like I have to. So that's a big one for me. I've already kind of developed a schedule that I think I'm gonna start with on you know, doing more writing for the business. The other one is I'm gonna be on my phone a lot less. This is a big one for me. Because I do find myself wavering back and forth, or sometimes I'm on my phone more, sometimes I'm on my phone less.

And so I think that's a big one for me this year where I'm going to leave my phone at a particular designated spot in my house. And if I wanna be on it, then I have to go to that spot otherwise I'm gonna be off the phone. And so those are the two big ones for me. Well, that kind of reminds me of something that I wanted to do.

So that's kind of cool. You, you know, sparked that, big ones for me. Well, that kind of reminds me of something that I wanted to do. So that's kind of cool. You you'll spark that like you and since what 2017 or whatever, once since I was talking about the whole phone thing, I've been back and forth with it. You'll find I'm kind of silent on Instagram and social media for a while. And then I'm kind of back in it back and forth. And there I have done a few things that I think that if I can just be consistent with that, I'll feel really good about still being able to provide a lot of help to people

from the business side, from my pump, but then also take care of myself and my own health and not get consumed by it. And that is scheduling twice a day for these half hour blocks or so of where I just purely dedicate that time for social media. So using that, and I did this for a while and I had a lot of success. I just fell off the consists. Probably makes you more productive too.

It does. So what I was doing was when I get up in the morning, you know, I'd have a cup of coffee and I would spend about 30 minutes of just answering DMs and responding to people and doing whatever at whatever post or whatever thing I need to do on Instagram, Facebook, all that shit. I would get that out and I would do that. And then again, right before we would leave the studio

at about three o'clock or so, I would do it one more time. And then after that, I would do it one more time. And then after that, I would be done the rest of the day. So the rest of the evening, when Katrina comes home and or and or if I was with family or friends, there would be no need for me really to be on my phone at all. And so that's a that's a big New Year's resolution for me is to get back into a consistent schedule with that. So that's probably the biggest one. Then the main one that I was thinking about before

you had mentioned that is, you know, this is a really big year for my impompant and also for me personally, because we have a chance to move this business into something bigger and greater than anything that I've been a part of before. And that's a very exciting thing for me to do. And I know that much of that will be disciplined. Like you're saying, of riding more and doing more like that, well, that'll require

more effort towards the business and the people that work within the business. So that's my commitment to 2019 is to help push this thing beyond anything that I've ever done before. So that's really where my head is at, but you definitely touched on something that's been weighing on me for a while. And like you, Sal, I've always been kind of anti the New Year's resolution thing just because I am somebody who if you feel that there's something in your life

that needs to change, that fucking waiting for a day to happen is ridiculous that you should make an effort to do that. In this case, I don't feel that. I don't feel really compelled. Like I'm abusing something or there's something in my life that really needs to change. So this 2018 or 19 is going to be this monumental change

for me, but I can jump on the, okay, this is a good time for us to think of some things that I would like to implement and be consistent about. And I think right away, the social media thing number one, and then two, my commitment to the company and what we're doing is extremely important to me. Yeah, I'm trying to think I haven't had like super-specific goals. You said no cheese, right? No, I didn't say that. No. No, it's no sound. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, to I'm trying to shift my mentality in another direction next year. Like this year for me was really just honing in on limiting my focus to one direction and

not bombarding myself with other things that may be adjacent to the big picture. So really focusing on my pump, really focusing on what we got going here and refining that process. And also at home, it's built more time for me to spend quality time because I'm not muddying that process up by being there and then also trying to keep a bunch of other things and ideas going at the same time. So this next year, I just, I feel like that's going to be even more of a focus of searching again academically, getting back into what really has driven like my personal training career and focus and diving into sports science and really just owning that passion of mine that I've somewhat leaned

on old information in terms and ideas and things that I've had in the past where I want to rekindle that and spark new ideas, come across fresh information that will really help to kind of drive interest on the show and just better conversation. So I think that that's going to be a major focus for me That's gonna be a major focus for me to be able to contribute. And then also just, I mean, of course, like electronics and all that and all these types of things and bad habits we have, you want to acknowledge, but my focus is just gonna, I want to stay simple and just really just focus on that

and that'll be it. Awesome. Well, Happy New Year's, boys. Yeah. So check this out, go to mindpumpfree.com, check out some of our free guides. We have maybe a dozen of them available, teaching you how to work your legs, your arms, your core,

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