Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 939: Muscle Building Potential of Short People vs Tall People, Combatting Seasonal Depression, Exercising in Different Planes & MORE

Episode Date: January 5, 2019

Organifi Quah! In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to combat seasonal depression, if it is true that shorter people will put on muscle mass quicker than taller people, favorite exercises outside of the sagittal plane and working out with horrible allergies. Why do women find androgynous men sexy? (3:18) All good things must come to an end. San Jose Considers New Safety Regulations for E-Scooters. (12:21) The Motorcycling McGuire Twins + asking the important questions you want to know. (15:45) Who pays attention to warning signs anymore? Thoughts on the survival of the fittest. (22:35) The World's Most Successful people don't actually start work at 4 a.m. Why people are chasing after what others define as successful. (28:24) The many ways we try (and fail) to replace religion with cult politics. (36:44) Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson become latest internet celebs to Leave Patreon over bizarre 'Hate Speech' policy. (40:30) Organifi hit it out of the park with new ‘Pure’ product. (44:30) Future of sports viewing? Steve Ballmer and L.A. Clippers debut new augmented reality NBA experience. (47:12) Do kids love the ‘Skinny Dipped’ almonds? (49:30) #Quah question #1 - How to recommend to combat seasonal depression? (53:40) #Quah question #2 - Is it true that shorter people will put on muscle mass quicker than taller people? (1:01:53) #Quah question #3 – What are some of your favorite exercises outside of the sagittal plane? (1:08:36) #Quah question #4 – How do you go about working out with horrible allergies? (1:18:52) People Mentioned Jordan Peterson (@jordan.b.peterson)  Instagram Dave Rubin (@rubinreport)  Instagram Sam Harris (@samharrisorg)  Instagram Products Mentioned: January Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!!  **Code “RED50” at checkout** Organifi   **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Skinny Dipped  **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Labyrinth (1986) - IMDb San Jose Considers New Safety Regulations for E-Scooters 1978: Heaviest Twins | Guinness World Records Liebeck v. McDonald's Restaurants - Wikipedia The World's Most Successful People Don't Actually Start Work at 4 a.m. They Wake and Work Whenever the (Heck) They Decide Why I Don't Work Gary Vaynerchuk's Schedule and Neither Should You From Astrology to Cult Politics—the Many Ways We Try (and Fail) to Replace Religion - Quillette BISHOP BARRON’S DISCUSSION WITH DAVE RUBIN AND RABBI WOLPE Dave Rubin, Jordan Peterson Become Latest Internet Celebs To Leave Patreon Over Bizarre 'Hate Speech' Policy Future of sports viewing? Steve Ballmer and L.A. Clippers debut new augmented reality NBA experience 3 Turkish Get-Up Variations - Tutorial with Kettlebell Master of Sport Add Windmills to Your Workout to Increase Your Deadlift Strength The BEST Leg Day Workout You’re NOT Doing (TRY THIS!!) Mind Pump Free Resources Brain.fm   **20% off** Joovv   **MAPS Prime w/purchase of $500 or more and free shipping** PRx Performance

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Adam talks about why he painted his toenails. We talked about the lime and bird scooter regulations in San Jose. Lame. You sons of bitches. Always. Then I talked about the McGuire twins and the growing business of obesity

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What? What is that? What is that? Steve Bully did, you know? Oh yeah! I'm afraid of Americans. You know, my girlfriend told me the other day? That she finds him very attractive.

He's like so androgynous. Yeah, and then she's like, yeah, you know what it is? We had this whole conversation. Women, a lot of women, not all women of course, but a lot of women find a draw androgynous men very attractive. I know, Prince did fairly well to ladies. Yeah, why is that?

Why do you guys think that is? Let's speculate on that because... I think it's androgynous men are by nature, not... I think it's traditionally not here. Well, define androgynous, please. David Bowie, prints. That's not a definition. What is the definition of?

Androgynous, male, female, kind of. Some hybrid of the two. Yeah, that's what it used to mean. Look up the definition. That's an obvious answer to me. It's because, I mean, part of what, I mean, I would say that I have some of these traits on the guy who paints his toes.

I'm very confident in my, and secure in my manhood that I'll do things that are, that would be arguably feminine. So you have both masculine and feminine traits, right? Yeah, but you're not an androgynous. Yeah. I wouldn't say you're an androgynous. No, you have a masculine portrayal, but you do.

But I mean, you think you get attention. But my point, my point is, no, and it's not that. It's that I'm comfortable doing those things regardless of what sex it's supposedly attached to. And that this would be a more extreme example of what I'm using for those things regardless of what sex it's supposedly attached to. And this would be a more extreme example of what I'm using for myself, but what I think that what's why it's been attractive to women and those characteristics that I think

that I have is because they can relate and connect to it. It's why, you know, they, it's why, like oh nice shoes Adam. Well, there's, where are those? Well, you got right, okay. So, no, not like that. It's more like, oh, they can appreciate that, oh, you're into fashion and things like that too,

which tends to be, it tends to be more of a feminine type of a trick. I have a different theory. I think it's, I think it's because of displays confidence. That's all. Well, I think it's somebody who's just, they're just confident. Who they are, they're a constant control.

That's exactly what my point is right now. I'm trying to tell you that you have the confidence to be okay with having traits that tend to be more feminine and masculine and you're okay weaving in and out of that, the confidence of that and the relatability of the opposite sex have got to be the two things that draw.

You know what I think too, it can only work if it really is who you are. But you see, so like for me, trying to be like all of a sudden, paint my nails and shit, like it just wouldn't, I couldn't make it work because it's not my am. You don't know that. Try it out and see what happens.

Trust me, I've. So, yeah, so, yeah. That's full of. No, a lot of my buddies have tried all that stuff and because they saw the success that I had with the opposite sex with that, they assume that they would try the same way too. Problem was, I wasn't doing it like that where it's like oh I'm gonna do this to try to try people

it's like okay I can respect this I can see where this is cool and I can totally embrace it and be okay with somebody teasing and making fun of me and it wouldn't waver how you would have still done it if girls didn't give you attention over it. That's that's hard to say. When I'm 20 years old, I'm sure that accelerated it, right? I'm sure of getting the attention from it and seeing the positive. Yeah, of course. Yeah, almost everything people do when they're in their 20 years. Right, I'm, yeah, right. I mean, I think, I think,

I'm so consciously, I'm sure I was. Because you saw in the 80s this big sort of explosion of that, even like heavy metal, which was like a very testosterone-driven, like music, that was the end of metal. Yeah, it turned into like this crazy perm and it's kind of it's it's counterculture thing too, right? It's kind of this counterculture thing. It's not normal for men to paint your toe.

So I'm going to do it. But this is cool because of that. This has happened forever though. Like what's his name? Who's the famous that a famous Italian guy from way back centuries ago that all the women, what's his name? Cassinova.

Cassinova, thank you very much Doug. He had, I think he displayed some feminine quality. I think he was a drawgeness for the day, for those days. And of course he's famous for being like the most famous womanizer, I guess, of all time. I think it's the confidence thing. The whole feminine thing is interesting to me because I think of a man acts too feminine. I think that's going to backfire. I don't think it's necessarily because I think a David Bowie, did David Bowie, he was, did he

both teams, but he didn't move. Was he really in real life? He was definitely both. He didn't move feminine though. You know what I mean? He didn't have feminine. He kind of wore makeup and stuff, but... Yeah. No, he, he, he dabbled like in, you know, the feminine realm. But like he, I think what it was is just like, I don't know, it was a confidence thing, but he had a coolness about him, you know, in the way that like he just was large.

Like he really embodied the rock star kind of look to it. And I think that, I don't know what it is, but it's a presence, it's like a stage presence a lot of times like people see, like even with prints and all that, like he had like a lot of real feminine type regalia that he'd wear on stage. But like he was just such a good performer. And like I think all of that was just like,

well whatever, like Prince just rocks. Well, that's another thing that's attractive is when people are just so good at their craft, it doesn't really matter. Well, it's more than being good at your craft. It's getting lost in your craft. And then watching someone get lost in the craft because it displays confidence also.

Like you're confident enough to act crazy. Like when you ever watch a musician, when they're so into their music, you can tell that they're not aware of their facial expressions, they're not aware of how they're moving. They're just in it. That's an attractive thing because it displays like an incredible amount of confidence, right?

Like you're just lost, you're lost on what you're doing. Yeah. So I think that's probable. And I can get them bored with that. I think it's a confidence thing. I definitely think that's a lot of it for sure. Yeah, yeah. But that was David, yeah, David, boy.

She said she watched, what was that show that? It was like a movie for kids, but kind of not. Labyrinth? Yeah. Yeah, love it. Labyrinth, dude. So, I don't know, I've never seen that. You never watched Labyrinth, man.

It's actually kind of, it's actually kind of scary for kids. Have you had your kids watching yet? Yeah, they, yeah, they didn't like some of the parts for sure. Cause like the puppets in it, it was like, that was when muppets were like everywhere, right? Like they had like dark crystal and they had all these movie kid movies had a lot of like puppeteering involved and so like some of them were real creepy

and in labyrinth. Like I remember they had like some scenes where just these real like creepy creatures were coming out and you know, out of nowhere and it was pretty scary. I had a, the girl in labyrinth wasn't, that's what's her name. Yeah. Yeah. So we said that.

Yeah. Full of labyrinth though. Yeah. She was hot back then. She was hot back then. How old are the movies it? This 90s. Um, That's a good question. Is it early 90s or late 80s?

Yeah, good question. It might be late 80s. Oh wow, that'll... It might be like 1987, 88 or something like that. Are you finding out for a stug? Yeah, he's on it. Yeah. Yeah, we'll see what, let's see.

Let's look at the picture here. I'm trying to remember. Oh, Jennifer Connolly. Yes, she was in rocketeer. She was man. She was in rocketeer. Did you ever see that movie? Yeah, she rocketeer. Yeah, she was smoking hot 1986. Wow. Yeah, look at that. No, I do not remember this dude. You never watch this, huh? We got to look at like the cover photo of the right there. Oh, yeah, you got to see it. It was great. And using this like He totally looked he had this

Yeah, but you got to see it was great. And I was in this like, he totally looked, he had this spiky kind of mullet, like rock star mullet with like this makeup and like, he had these two crystal balls that he would like roll in his hand. Oh yeah, there's like this weird trick he did. Yeah, and it's, oh wow, I don't remember any of this. Yeah, and he's got the hair and he's all weird.

What's it rated? Did it get really good? Like it's not, like, I think it's like, it's not G. No, no, no, not like that type of rating. I mean, like how did it get like rotten tomatoes. What's it rated? Did it get really good? Like it's not, I think it's like, it's not G. No, no, no, no, no, that type of rating. I mean, like how did it get like rotten tomatoes? How's that? Oh, Labyrinth is a very famous, well, at 7.4 if that. Oh, dude.

So if you've seen Legend, it's like, in that same kind of fantasy category. Oh, you know what? Now maybe I've seen clips of this, like running on old HBO, you know, rerun stuff. Yeah. Labyrinth was awesome. Um, so was legend.

Both, both of them had a girl that I was extremely had a legend was I was scared of legend. That's someone with a dead. The big devil guy. Yeah, yeah. That guy was crazy. Yeah. That's probably the coolest looking devil I've ever seen on any movie. They killed it on that one.

Yeah. It's what's a neat. What's his name played the devil? What's the actor's name? Oh, maybe Doug can tell us through the act, the guy that played the devil, it's someone you wouldn't even know who played the devil. But like a well-known actor.

It's a well-known actor that you would never, Well Tom Cruise is in legend. Yeah, he's a kid in it. Yeah. He's a kid, I don't know, maybe you can find out. The girl in there, she's, I had a huge crush on her too, 1985, huh? Look at that. It's Jennifer Connelly.'s, I had a huge crush on her too, 1985, huh? Look at that.

It's Jennifer Connelly, yes. It's definitely one of those. Yeah, who knows? Anyway, Tim Curry. Tim Curry, yeah. Tim Curry played the frickin' devil guy. What? Yes.

I did not. Yeah, and exactly. I did not know that. Exactly. That's crazy. I just learned that the other day. So you guys, fun facts. You guys know all the scooters that we're seeing outside.

Yeah. You know, these little... Nerd and lime. Yeah, first off, what do you guys think about those? I think they're awesome. I love them, man. I think they're freaking amazing. I think it's awesome.

Isn't that great? Liberating. I think it's great. I think it's getting people... We want to save the environment. You know, these are electric scooters. Yeah. A lot of people, I know people who live in San Francisco

who use the scooters and the electric bikes now entirely. They're like, I don't need to get on, I would love to see us go that direction. Well, what's happening is a lot of people are not using public transit and stuff as a result, which I think is great too. But yeah, that's awesome. But anyway, of course.

So with all good things, the local governments have to step in. So San Jose City Council now passed an ordinance that is going to start regulating the scooter riders and the companies that put them around. So each company now is going to have to pay an annual permit application fee of $2,500 and $124 per device each year to operate. They're also gonna need to limit the scooter speed to 12 miles per hour. How fast are these things going?

Where's my money? I think they're going like 20, I think. Are they really? Yeah, they move, they keep going. So they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna, well, it's gonna make it more expensive, that's all. So you're gonna get out,

because right now what is it? It's like a dollar to turn it on. No, it's even cheaper, it's like 10 cents to turn it on. No, no, it's a dollar, I think, first. And then it's like certain amount of cents per per. I don't think so. They're cheap, dude. It's super cheap.

I think it's like 10 cents. I think it just goes right away. I think you were soon to turn it on and you're getting charged 10 cents and then it's like 10 cents every mile or something like that or I'm starting to see them by my house now. I mean, it's inevitable. Of course they're gonna want their cut, you know?

Do you know who, It's so stupid. You know who forced all this, right? Who invented the Segway? What's his name? Oh, I don't know. But they thought that that would be the future of transportation when they invented it. But of course, it was way too expensive and all that.

I need to do the work, right? What do you mean? No, that's the one where you hold. It's like, oh, Paul Blart, maybe I said that thing. Have you guys ever rid What do you mean? No, no, that's the one where you hold. It's like, oh, Paul Blart, maybe I said that thing. Have you guys ever ridden a segue? No. Never?

It's way too dorky. Really? Yeah. Do you have ever seen, so there's like, there's a bunch of them in Santa Cruz. San Francisco's got to go onto like the boardwalk and everything and they sort of lead. They wear these dorky-ass bike helmets

and they're like standing all upright. I just can't, I can't imagine myself being in that and be like, go, look at me. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr spikes on it or something. It would need something. It reminds me like a trike. You know, say like the tricycles, the motorcycles that are three wheels, you know what I'm saying? Oh yeah. You know that you're not gonna show but a biker bar really.

Hey guys. Yeah, with your trikes. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not welcome. When I think of a trike, there's two things I think of. One is, did you guys ever read the Guinness Book of World Records when you were a kid?

Sure. Did you guys did? I love that book. I mean, like literally like from cover to cover. I would kid? Sure. You guys did? Love that book. I mean, like literally like from cover to cover. I would deal or look at the picture. Yeah, I got it. I thumbed through it all the time. Hold on, hold on.

Did I read it? I sit down and like, no, no. Listen, I know you guys have seen this picture. You guys ever see a picture of the world's heaviest twins? Have you ever done that? Yes, on those little tiny mini bikes? Yes, yeah, do you? See, I think of that.

I knew you would have seen that. World's heaviest twins, anyway. I think of that as an iconic photo. And it's like the back of them, like riding away in the really obese. Yeah. That, and then I also think of that, I remember reading that, oh, the McGuire-Tint twins.

There they are, look. Yeah. Yeah, I totally remember that. The ones that were going away from the camera. Yeah, now I don't think those are mini bikes, bro. Because I'm regular, I'm not a mini. That's a regular sub-bots. That's a valid point.

Look at those guys. Oh my god, those guys are big. Yeah, they're big dudes. Wow. Yeah, I think those are regular motorcycles. They're not alive still. No, I think they died in 1970s. Like a day after that picture.

You did a day after that picture. Yeah, after that picture. Whoa, go down that little bit more dog. When we see the how heavy they were, they were, whoa, 764 and 814. No way. Wow. I'm gonna say wait. Bro, those might be regular bikes.

You might be right. Why would, why would, why would, I'll tell you what, I'll be heavier than the other one. He steals the food from his brother. He does. Well, that's not, I mean, 30 pounds is nothing when you're talking about 7,800 pounds, right? That's like, isn't that crazy?

That's like a day. Like they wait that day, he was heavier. He's like, waterway. Just think about that. He had more salt. How much do you fluctuate when you're that big? Like I've gotten to a point when I was at the biggest fluctuate, three pounds.

I fluctuate nine pounds through the night. Like, these guys are fucking four times my size. That's not a good, that's a fucking good, 36 pounds, right? You're four times my size. Why could you not fluctuate 36 pounds? I would think so. Maybe his brother pooped before that way. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Right. Do, do, do. So I, I used to have a lady that worked in my personal training studio who was a physical therapist and occupational therapist. And she would work with people that were like severely disabled obese,

like, you know, 700, 800 pounds. She said she's worked with them. And so I would ask her questions that you've always wanted to know the answer to, right? Like, how do they? Like how they clean in the folds. Yeah, how do they clean like, and so she would say when they would bathe them, you would, you would have to lift folds and scrub and clean, otherwise they would get like infections and rashes. And then I said, what about like poop?

Because that's a lot of, it's a lot of volume. It's a lot of butt cheek too. Like, all right, like there's gonna be a lot of paste. Yep. Yeah, on the sides. Just that I fucking visual. Just get to it. You know what I mean? I know you're trying to say paste. He said no, what is Robin Big say, mud butt? Yeah, he's mud butt.

A lot of mud butt. Paste. No, as she said, that's exactly right. She said they wouldn't wipe because they couldn't or whatever. Oh my God. Because it goes through, right? Because you got the anus and then there's a lot of cheek before it comes out.

Well, that's why, so I would just spray it. That's what Robin, on Robin Bigg, he talks about mud butt and that's why he would stick a piece of toilet paper after you go to the bathroom. He's still stick a toilet paper up in there. So you don't get shit all over your underwear. Wow. Yeah, you don't remember him talking about that? I don't remember that part. I do,. You don't get shit all over your underwear. Wow. Yeah, you don't remember him talking about that?

I don't remember that part. I do, but I don't remember what that was exactly. Yeah, yeah, I remember Mud Butt, that's the thing. Yeah, because they were teasing him because he had toilet paper in his butt cheeks. Rob was giving him a hard time or some shit, right? Oh my God. And he's like, oh no, you gotta do that.

And he's talking about how he folded the toilet paper and then he wedges it between it. So he did, because of mud butt, because that dude takes his shit, because it's probably impossible for him to get all of it. So you make sure he puts a piece of paper in there, so he didn't consider. Well, these are all questions I always have,

you know, I always want to know the answer to, like astronauts, how do they poop in their suit, and stuff like that? These are questions that are important to, well, that important, but when you're a kid, be honest, when you're a kid, you ask these kind of questions like, okay, that's cool that the deepest submarine went this deep,

like what does the bathroom look like? You know what I mean? Like what do you do for, so anyways. You know some of them, some of them all, most successful companies that are like online are companies that cater to people that are like morbidly obese that we don't even see.

It's a growing market and open intended. Yeah, no, it is Yeah, no, really though. I remember when I was coming to a client of mine, I think I might have shared this on the podcast for a long time ago. And I was a part of this company. This was probably 13 years ago. And we had created this ergonomical office chair.

And it was the shaft of it had a 15 degree play we had created this ergonomical office chair. And it was the shaft of it had a 15 degree play in all directions, so you had to kind of stabilize your core and then the C's that really expensive chair? Yeah, it was like 300 zone of bugs. It was right after the dot com and we were on the way down. And here we are trying to sell a chair for really expensive. And one of my clients, really smart lady that would always like give me, you know, business

and entrepreneur advice, like totally shit on this idea. And she's just like, you know, you're thinking backwards. She's like, you know, this is, that's you and what you want because you're a health and fitness guy, but you are talking about a very small percentage of the population. You want a growing market that's, it's accelerating in a far larger market than you should appeal to the morbidly obese So instead of like trying to create things that for the healthy and fit conscious person Why don't you create a tool to help fat people open the door? You know or help fat people with their phone punch the numbers on their phone or use you tend oversized utensils or thing and she's like

There's no she was right. Yeah, she's right. It is a market. It's a huge market. Yeah, again, open and tender. Yeah, no, she's like, there's way more money in that than there is in your idea. I was just like, you kind of like a chair that is like wider in the seat. Right. More comfortable. Yes.

Whatever, fridge underneath it. Right. Yeah, stuff. A peeling tool. Well, I mean, you know, you guys laugh like a hole. You can just open up so you can just dump right., I mean, hey, you know, you guys laugh. Like a hole, you can just open up, so you can just dump right in. No, no, no, not going that far.

But you know, think about the market that you be catering to. Look at airlines are having to, you know, have a big conundrum now because they're getting sued over people having to buy two tickets or whatever to take up to chairs. I find that crazy.

I think that's stupid. I don't think you should be able, I think suing a company is silly. Imagine going to a store. Imagine if I went to Pizza Hut, and I'm like, can I have a burger? We make pizza. I'm gonna fucking sue you because I want they winning those shoes, I don't think they are. If they, I think we hear about them and then we make a big deal about them but I don't think they actually fuck mine. If they position it as a discriminatory thing,

I mean, it's not like how the, it's not like the lady who made a ton of money who dropped the coffee from McDonald's on her lap. She got a lot of money, right? She's a lot, right? Yeah, she actually had, I think, second and third degree burns on her vagina. Oh my God.

Because that's where she dropped the coffee. Yeah, I know it was her inner thigh, I know she actually got her vagina. Are you sure? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I might remember how hot that coffee used to be. Very hot. Oh my God.

They had to change it because of that. I believe they had to change it and they had to do the caution thing and all that stuff because of her. I remember, like, my friends' parents, like, we would go on a ski trip or something and they would stop and that was they had to have it and they wanted it like molten lava hot like that. Yeah, yeah, Starbucks, you can ask for that, you know that.

Extra hot? Yeah, that's crazy. Like why? I don't understand. Just look at it, you can have it from all over the country. Well, so I'm up in Tahoe where I just came back from, I think they, all the Starbucks and all the coffees that I drink, all of them were fucking surprised

because it's so freezing outside. So I think that's the idea is they probably, they probably boil it at a higher temperature because of the fact that- Well, boiling water's the same temperature. Well, you, I mean, they serve it at a higher temperature. Because what makes me, I mean, because back in the day, you know how you check

if something, you know, if something was dangerous, you just kind of looked at it and like, well, I don't know if I should do that. And then that's it, that's your decision. I think it's crazy that people are getting sued for stuff like that. I mean, I thought that's always a suit that people bring up and uses a silly example, but I do think it's silly.

The fuck out of here. You know? It's our state too though, right? We're the ones that allow like weird shit like that. California's the worst. Yeah, unbelievable. You look at the tags on some things. And you know, it's gotten so ridiculous now

that the warnings don't mean anything. That I mean anything. Who pays attention to a warning anymore? Nobody does. If you read the tag on something, it's 15 feet long. There's three or four cancer risks associated with something. There's a bunch of like, please don't use this hair dryer to drive your car

or some weird shit like. You are using it in the back. Yeah, please don't use your hair dryer in the back. In the shower. While you're in the back. Don't use this in the shower. Well, you know, let's back up for a second. If you're using a hair dryer while you're wetting your hair,

maybe you should be electrocuted. I don't know. You know what I mean? It doesn't make any sense. That's it, don't, yeah. Don't use scratch and stickers on the bottom of the pool. I'm with the survival.

You're toasting your bread. Well, you're taking a bath. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're, you're, what are your thoughts on the survival of the fittest? Um, yeah. I think if you're,

if someone's malicious and they're trying to hurt someone, of course, they should be liable. But I mean, should companies be liable for, if they're lying, that's different. Like, if a tobacco company says, no, our products are totally safe and it's found that they knew that it wasn't, that's different. But should dessert companies be sued for making someone over money? Yeah, I think if they're definitely hiding information and like, you know, there's this potential dangers and things that they're not disclosing fully Like that's where I get really adamant like this is, you know, we got to do something Yeah, like if the woman ordered a cold coffee and then she got it and then it was in a burner like that's different Then can I have a hot coffee please and then she spills it?

No, but what's your thoughts on the survival of the fittest? Like a lot of people still, that's how we were supposed to evolve anyways that just these natural people that are stupid or weaker that die off, that's how it was meant to be. Still is, it's already still that way. It's just different if it's still like that. No, that's what I mean.

It is the same thing, right? Well, how do you feel about it? When you say fittest, people think it means strongest, or this is the way it really is. I think it's survival of the most mindful and responsible, is usually what it is. People who tend to be responsible have integrity, conscientious and hardworking,

tend to do better and succeed and tend to make better choices and everything, right? Like they tend to make better food choices. They tend to do better and succeed and tend to make better choices and everything, right? Like they tend to make better food choices, they tend to take care of themselves better, they tend to pay more attention to their relationships, they tend to do better in business. And so, if you want to live in a society where you have kind of free will and you reap the benefits of your decisions and you also, you know, the pay your consequences of your own stuff and if you want to live in a society like that then you have to be okay with that.

If you're not okay with that then you have to come up with a way to make everybody exactly the same and just, you know, FYI, every attempt at ever doing that has created far, far worse problems. I mean, that's like the biggest, the worst things that humans have ever done has been in pursuit of that, of trying to make everybody the same. Build everybody up while taking the top performers down. Yeah, just eliminating everything there is not, but it doesn't, it doesn't work that way because.

I feel like we see that a lot of people trying to do that. Yeah. Oh, are you kidding me? Yeah. All, that's, it's a luring thought, but it's a very dangerous one. Well, the majority are somewhere in the lower end to middle range, right? That, you know, all we see is like the, you know, the few that are just, you know, dominating. Nobody wants to take responsibility for themselves. It's hard to do.

It's speaking in our field, if you're overweight or unhealthy or whatever, you have a health problem. You don't want to look and you don't want to say, you know what? This is mostly my fault. You want to say something like, well, it was my genetics or my environment or cheap food is not good for me and that's why. You don't want to do that. You don't want to bring responsibility. You especially don't want responsibility over shit that happens to your kids, even though a lot of it is a parent's responsibility. But you talk to a parent of a child,

for example, who's obese and try telling them it's their fault and watch what happens. You're going to get some fucking spikes thrown at you, you know what I mean. So it's just human nature. But the irony of that is that being responsible and taking ownership is actually quite empowering. It's difficult as it is. It's a very empowering way to be because then you actually realize you have more control than you thought you did. You know what I mean? Or at least you feel like you do. Right.

So anyway, that's that's that. Hey, did you read the, you sent over or somebody sent over you were Jackie sent over the The not a study but the article on people waking up at 4 a.m. To work. I didn't read it. Oh, yeah Damn it, dude. I wanted to always hope in somebody I skimmed it. Yeah, I skimmed it. I guys now that you've got these guys sending articles over there sending so many, like I read the dairy one because I worked on a dairy. Yeah. And I was a part of that.

Did you read that one? No, I didn't. Yeah, so that was, that was that interesting to me and who is it, who's it? It says in the article, the world's most successful people aren't worried about what time others wake up. They wake up and work on the schedule that works for them.

Yeah. And that's, that goes against the whole like, you know, successful people need to wake up at 5 a.m. or 4 a.m. Early bird gets to worm. No, I think. I love that. Some of the successful people of all time were late,

what are they called? Late birds. They slept, they stayed up all night. Yeah. And they woke up late, especially creative people. Yeah. And that's the thing, especially creative people. Yeah. And that's the thing, there's such an individual variance to that.

And like, what it is is people idolize certain people. And they wanna give what's been working for them. And it's like they're wiring. That's the way they do things specifically just to them and their business and what they created. Has nothing to do. I love what they're I love hearing that because that it one of the things that I just struggle

with I know we've gotten recommended multiple times about interviewing some of these Navy seal guys and stuff on the show and they're all kind of like hype motivational dudes and and the thing that it just doesn't appeal to me because I'm not that guy. Yeah. I've already tried I've tried to be the guy who gets up at four o'clock in the morning and does all this stuff, and it's just like, I don't perform best there. I am the guy who will stay up at two, three o'clock in the morning.

That's when my mind is running the most. That's when I'm taking the most notes. That's when the most ideas come to me. And no matter how much I try and train myself otherwise, it just doesn't feel natural to me. And so instead of trying to fight what feels natural to me, I'd rather feed what is already working for me and get better at it. That's same for me. If I left it where I would just do what felt natural to me. And so instead of trying to fight what feels natural to me, I'd rather feed what is already working for me and get better at it.

That's same for me. If I left it where I would just do what felt best to me, I would stay up late and wake up late. I wake up early because I have kids getting to school and so just, it wouldn't work for me. You're adapting to yeah, whatever schedules can work best for efficiency. I hate that message that they all present

because they present it so biased like all successful people that they all have this morning routine it so biased like all successful people that they all have this morning routine. I'm like, get the fuck out of here. That's not true at all. I'm very successful. I don't fucking have a morning. Muscle them, they have to get up earlier because there's so much work to do because they're

so bombarding. I'm like, oh fuck, I gotta get a little bit earlier just to get this before the meeting. Yeah. Well, you know what it reminds me of is human psychology in which when we see someone doing something right or someone that's successful, sometimes we have a tough time, a tribute, like connecting what made them successful, the activities and the habits that they have

that made them successful. So instead we look at everything. So for example, let's say you idolize Steve Jobs and you're like, oh, I wanna be just like Steve Jobs, you know know And so then you like the turtle neck. Yeah, so then you get everything Yeah, you worse clothes or you brush your teeth the same way he did and oh, maybe it's because the way he walked like none of that stuff You know was the reason why he was successful. I think we should look at the more obvious stuff like what do all successful people have in common? They probably work hard So instead of trying to wake up at 4 a.m., I just, how about you just don't be lazy?

Yeah, it's funny though. Why do we gravitate towards that? We want to hear like this, everyone's looking to hear this like secret or this breakthrough. Like, oh man, you think there's a cheat code people at home? He runs five miles every morning at 4 a.m. and then does a thousand push ups and then they're like,

oh my God, that's why I'm not a millionaire. Like I've been missing this piece. Well, the reason why it keeps getting perpetuated is because like successful people know that's what all these people want. And so they produce a book or they produce like some sort of candid response that feeds into that idea that it's just like,

it's just that easy. Here's the formula, just replicate it, and it's gonna work. And that's called MLM. Yeah. Well, it's like fitness. People are looking for the secret to fitness. Oh, okay, so it's when you, if you work out at this way,

or if you make it cold in your room and you eat, then it does this. And it's like, well, actually, no, it's just consistency. I mean, really, that's the key. That's the main key. Like, if you worked out and your workout was like, okay, and your diet was pretty good, but you were like that every day, you're going to do way better than the guy over there. That's like, you know, he's doing the heart rate monitor variability and he's got all

the perfect everything. It's all about refining your process each and every single day. Get better every day. Figure something out that's going to help within your process, whatever it is that you're trying to get towards, like make that more efficient and always think like that. Don't ever stop thinking you can make something better and improve. I like that. Doug just pulled up and I said, I don't work Gary Vander Chucks schedule

and neither should you. Let's see, I'll title of that article. Yeah. Whatever works for you man, some people are very successful operating in a particular way and other people have to operate a different way and they're very successful. And there's different paths to success

and then there's different definitions of success too. Right, you know that's another very big. No, that's a's different definitions of success. That's right, right. You know, that's another variable. No, that's a major one to me too. A lot of times we're chasing after what somebody else defines as success, and it really has nothing to do with what you would probably find as successful for yourself.

I know that was, I know that, and I also think that's also involved in changes I've gotten older, like there's different things that I value today than what I valued 15 years ago. And so, you know, part of my definition for success today that's different than before. Mine was a number that I was driving after. Well, then what happens when you achieve

and surpass the number you realize, oh, shit, I'm not that much happier than what I was before. Then you start looking at other places, well, what else do I like or important to me? Oh, well, I find that the ability for me to have balance in my life and have flexibility to go take off and do vacations or do things that I love to do, wow, I actually value that than an extra $30,000 a year. So, you know, maybe I'll make less money, but then do something that I am allowed to do

this. So, you know, finding out what success is to use, important too, before you start emulating somebody else's fucking routine that they did to become successful. It also helps too, because sometimes you'll look at someone if you don't have your definition of success, you can become envious of people and not even realize that you shouldn't be. You know what I mean?

You could look at someone like you said who's making tons of money and be like, I want to be like that. And really not realize that if you were like that, you would not be happy. Well yeah, especially when, like for example, that's a great analogy where we talk about like a Steve Jobs or whatever,

like, you know, you think you want that because of the money, the fame, the excess, but then you also owe a person that values your family and relationships and stuff like that. And then you have no idea that that person has terrible relationships with people because they have no time for anybody else because they're so driven on their goals.

Like, you don't even know that because you don't see the behind the scenes, especially, and I think this is more today than ever because of like Instagram and social media and the way people present themselves. And in our space, I see this a lot with like, some of these physiques that, you know, these guys, my peers, you know, present themselves

at this 4% to 6% body fat range almost year around. I know what it takes to do that. There's very little balance in your life when you have that. And they try and present it that way, because they show a picture of a pop tart and fucking having a pizza on Friday night. It's like, get the fuck outta here. Like that's what, you're full definition of,

of, of balances that you get to have a fucking pizza every once in a while. Meanwhile, you're obsessing over this look and this body fat percentage year-around. No worth it. Yeah, not. I know what my life was like with that. And it's not to say that it was so miserable. It's just that I'm way happier today

in a softer looking physique than what I was three years ago at my prime physique. So it's not what everybody thinks it is when we present this on Instagram of us driving around in our cool cars and our abs and all that shit. It's like, yeah, then you see the real behind the scenes that person's like, by themselves all the time. Look, no friends, no social life.

Like, fuck that dude. Where? Did you guys read that article I posted maybe like a week or two ago, and I wanted to bring it up, I forgot to bring it up. It was on my Insta story, and the title of it was, from astrology to cult politics,

the many ways we try and fail to replace religion. Did you guys end up reading that one? No, I didn't. It was a really, really well-made written article, and it was about how there's this movement, there's been this movement now for the last 20, 30 years away from religion, but it's what's happened is people aren't moving away from religion.

They're moving away from what's traditionally been called religion. And they're moving towards. I said this when we all first, when we first got together, this was my big thing when we are talking about Iohasca and all these people the all these spiritual yet not Religious people and I just I scoff at it because it's it's fucking the same thing Yeah, it's the exact same thing you you sit here and you talk down about religion But then you turn around and you create your own

But it and but talk down about religion, but then you turn around and you create your own, but not call it religion, but yet you're enlightened in this other spiritual thing that you're chasing. It's just, you know who talked about this and it's a rebrand. It is a rebrand. That's a great way to say it. It's a fucking rebrand. Bishop Baron and Rabbi, whatever that, that, they touch on it a little bit in there too. Yeah, it was really good.

Yeah, that was excellent. That was really cool. Yeah, that was excellent. That was a really cool interview. It was a great article. If someone had posted it on Facebook, I don't remember what page it was. And there was this, there were comments back and forth. I love to read comments because I like to see what people think about certain things.

And there was this one person who was saying, oh, they were railing on about Christianity, which of course you know and again I'm not I'm not a super religious individual, but It's socially acceptable to rail on Christianity, which is I think is a little bit Hippocritical so this his guys railing on Christianity and when you click on his profile picture He's got like he's he's got pictures of himself with crystals and shit that he and I'm like buddy Why why is it cool for you to worship your crystals and it's not cool for someone to worship something else

It's all the same thing right so this article is really good because it's talking about how when you eliminate The religion the traditional religions people tend to replace them with other things and one of the things that that this guy speculating is being That's replaced from religion is cult politics where people are becoming almost treating their political party or leaders like religious figures, like they're worshiping them. The Communists knew this. They've always known this. Why Communism always tries to squash religion because they want nothing above the state. And they know that once they do that, then people tend to worship their collectivist ideas or whatever.

They touch on that interview that you sent. They touch on that too. Did they talk about that? Yeah, they talk about that too. That was a really good interview. Why can't they give his name? Rubin Report. It was the Rubin Report with Bishop Baron and Rabbi.

I would love to get that Rabbi on the show. What a... I don't remember his name, I'm not name. I love what he's doing right now. I mean, he's putting, he's, I love that he's interviewing these people that he completely would not agree with. Well, people don't know this, but Rubin, with the Rubin Report great show, he's, he's an atheist gay guy.

He's an atheist gay guy. Yeah, right. And he's bringing on a bishop and a rabbi to have a discussion. Just have discussions. Fucking awesome. I think it's so, and they're all respectful. And they're having, but they're also standing their ground

because there was a point there where Bishop Baron and the rabbi were talking about the differences between Judaism and Christianity. Right. And I was like, oh, here we go. Yeah. Yeah, like nobody ever wants to talk about, you know, especially those two sides.

They were sort of ends. And they did. Oh, rabbi, whoope, Wolpe, wants to talk about, you know, especially those two sides. It's sort of ends. And they did, they did, oh, Rabbi, whoop, whoopie, how do you pronounce that, W-L-P-E. Yeah, great, great, great. You guys hear that Rubin and Peterson are leaving Patreon? I did hear that. Yeah, why, why the, what's going on with that? Patreon has been taking people off their platform

for hate speech, but what they're doing with their new censorship policy is they're saying if we identify any of your speeches hate speech on any platform ever, then we will remove you from our platform. So in other words, first off, what do they define as hate speech? I mean, right away, what happens at freedom of speech?

I mean, you're just, that's totally infringing on that. They're a private organization so they can do whatever they want, but it's a little scary because they've been selectively eliminating people who would be considered conservative, like there was this one group that talked about, they were called, they were against

the extremist Islamic extremism, but they were labeled as a hate group, and so they were taken off, but then they also have these really hateful left groups that even call for violence, and they still have them on. And so, Rubin and Peterson are kinda like, well, this is too vague, we don't know what your definitions are.

If you were consistent about it, it was all clearly defined, that's one thing. But they have like, obviously, have a bias, and that's where it's like, come on. What's his name also left? Sam Harris for the same thing. Sam Harris left. And by the way, these guys are making millions

of dollars on Patreon, so they literally left and lost all that money. Yeah, those are huge accounts. They lost. And Sam Harris said he feels like it's, there's a political bias going on as well. Yeah, it's kind of scary Well, I don't know It's actually interesting and we talked about it because I think that it's gonna be cool to see what emerges as a you know

Competition wise like who's gonna create sort of the next platform for us to look into and you talk about people like Sam Harris and Rubin and him and Jordan like These are some of the most influential people right now on social platforms. And then a lot of ways. So yeah, so then making a stance already is, I mean, that's what I love about. Well, that's actually a great example of how the market should work.

Yes, that's what I love. That's why I never checked them. I don't ever get that scared about what we see going on because I would be more scared 100 years ago when it takes a long time for things to travel. So if you saw a movement or a change or something in society that was scary, like, oh my God, I would be more freaked out 100 years ago than I am today. Today, like if it's that scary or it's that ridiculous, it's like it's only a matter of time. It's sort of enough people are speaking out the opposite direction and because stuff can Travel so far and we can connect sure why not create a different type of patreon and have it

You know have all these people on who don't want to be on patreon now you have a competitor Right and we talked about this before and you've brought it up as a concern like with YouTube and that's a platform that we utilize And it's like well what happens when YouTube starts to do things like that and they start to control more of it, we wanna make sure that we own our audience and they don't own that. It's like, I don't really get that scared about it because I think that will also open up an opportunity for a competitor that will come in

and that won't be that way. And that would probably be the platform that we'd ended up using. And then the people that really cared to listen to Mind Pump would travel over there. And YouTube will realize how badly they're gonna hurt their business. Yeah, yeah.

So I don't know, those things, they don't, they're interesting to talk about and discuss and I think it's important to. Well, it's a big deal because Ruben, Sam Harris, and Peterson, I believe, and there was another individual, I don't remember what it was, it was a podcast in fact, it was on Patreon. They represent like, they're all the top five or 10

on Patreon gone. Oh wow. So they lost, now how much does Patreon make, what percentage do they make of? I have no idea, I have no idea. But I know at one point, Peterson, before he took off, there's been like a million a month or something like that. Well, no, it was hundreds of thousands or something,

but that was a long time ago. So he could very well have been making. Oh, I thought I read somewhere that he was getting like a million a month or something, but then, but that was a long time ago. So he could very well have been making money. Oh, I thought I read somewhere that he was getting like a million a bottle. I don't know. Something crazy. Sorry, you guys still liking the new pure, pure, organified pure.

I just had some. Isn't it? I do like it. They hit it out of the park. I think it's because it's more subtle. That's why. And I know you said it. Lions main.

You think that's what it is? I think it's the Lions main. I really like, every time I've taken lion's mane consistently, I feel, I notice a difference. It's, what do you feel from it? Let me ask you guys that, because I don't want to, you know, give my two cents yet. I don't want to hear what you can get.

Well, one, I've had, we've had new tropics before that have upset my stomach, that I've gotten headaches from, that I feel racy. I've had, that I've tried. And that's what I mean by it seems more subtle. I don't feel any of those things. I feel clear-minded. I feel like I have energy,

but not like the same kind of energy I get from coffee or something that affects my central nervous system. It feels like I'm just full of energy. It's like recalling information, I think it's a little bit of sharper process. And I think that's, that was the main benefit to a lot of those new tropics that I experienced, but it did have those moments where it was like I get the tension headaches or you know, it'd get a little bit more of the shakiness, like you get from like too much stimulation in caffeine. So, but it was nice.

I took the pure, like the last five days where, you know, we were all kind of off on our separate thing. And I only had like maybe one cup of coffee or no cups of coffee and just had, you know, some of that. And it was nice because it was, it was very great, like a gradual kind of energy that sustained. You guys should have seen me because I put together a guide and then I did a few blogs and I sat down, I had my brain FM on, I had my blue blockers glasses on, I drank my, you know, pure and I was in

the zone and I'm sure part of it's the ritual, you know what I mean, like wearing the same socks or whatever to go. Well part of it's that and I was actually thinking zone and I'm sure part of it's the ritual. You know what I mean? Like wearing the same socks or whatever to go. Part of it's that and I was actually thinking about the same thing because I was so creative. You know, and I think it was, it was this interesting feeling where it's the end of the year. You know, we did a lot of work this year and we were all kind of like accepting sort of, you know, what was coming in and like getting excited about it, but it was like, it felt for the first time we could allow ourselves to kind of relax

and take some time to really just be apart from it. And just being apart from it allowed for that creativity to really come back and it came back in floods. It was crazy. Yeah, that's such a big part of what we do. We have to continue to make sure we foster that creative aspect of what we do. Yeah, I mean, I really I really enjoy it. Yeah. Did you guys so we brought this up one time on the show about the virtual reality and augmented reality for watching NBA games? Yeah, Oculus. Yeah, and so there's that

opportunity as far as at home viewer, but actually the Clippers rolled out something for People that actually would show up to the event and so like what they have it's called court vision And they offer like three different modes. There's a mascot mode There's a coach mode and a player mode. I fucking knew it was going. Yes. Tell me I know. I know That's why I wanted to bring it up because I was like dude Adam I remember you talking about this and they literally are tell me I did not. I know, I know. That's why I wanted to bring it up, because I was like, dude, Adam, I remember you talking about this.

And they literally are doing it. And it sounds so cool, too. So in coach mode, fans can watch plays drawn on the screen as they develop. Player mode shows real-time advanced statistics, such as their probability of the player making or shot. Yeah, in mascot mode, the system generates animations and stuff when they do a big dunk or a three pointer app in, so it's like, it just makes it kind of exciting.

Yeah, so you're seeing all this augmented, more interaction. Reality interaction while you're watching it, real time, sounds awesome. Oh my God, you imagine that in MMA, he's gonna hit him and say, yeah, that's that explosion or something. But it's fucking really brilliant when you think about it.

That's gonna dramatically increase. Because it's super entertaining. Yeah, it's gonna bring in people that would normally not watch sports because it's just it's. So one of the big problems I read an article on this, one of the big challenges that sports are having right now with viewership is that kids aren't watching sports like they used to. Like when we were kids, we grew up watching

professional athletes and sports and it was a big deal. Kids don't give a shit anymore. This I think would save that because now kids are gonna wanna watch this augmented reality athlete doing like you said, dunks with freaking animations and shit going on. Then you have the hardcore fans watching with the statistics and the coaching and stuff.

That's gonna blow them up. Is it active in going? Or is this something they're launching? Yeah. It says that they rolled it out as something that they're offering the things. I gotta get the Oculus thing. I've been talking about doing it for a while now.

It's not that expensive. I wanna do it so I could talk about it in first hand and see, because it looks for cool, man. It'd be really interesting. Speaking of kids, do you give your kids the skinny dipped almonds? Yeah. What's their response?

Their favorite is the raspberry. Really? Yeah, that's the one that they always request for me all the time. Have you showed them the Doug's peanut butter mix yet? What's the peanut butter and jelly mix? Doug does the raspberry and then he adds the peanut butter and then he eats them both the same time.

So he gets like a peanut butter and jelly type of. Oh, that's brilliant. No. Yeah, no, it's cool because I mean, they used to want to eat those. What was it? They're like granola bars, but they're like real popular or whatever.

So I've been giving them like the skinny dip ones instead of a treat. And it's nice because like it's, it's, you know,, you feel a little bit better in terms of like if they're gonna have something, you know, to go along with lunch or whatever. Well, it's all men's and then the whole packet is what five grams of bread.

Like very little amounts of chocolate coating over it. Yeah, you want to talk about little versus a lot of sugar. We, this atahoe was, Jalen's birthday. He turned 24 and he requested this thing from Pinterest for his mom to make. And it was one of those, what are the roles that you get that are? Oh, Crescent roles, or the roles that you, yes, Pillsbury roast, right? So it's deep fried Pillsbury ball rolls, right? So the deep, you deep, I'm in already. You deep fried, Pillsbury ball rolls, right? So the deep, I'm in already. You deep fried those. And then you take jelly and you insert the jelly

in to the doughnut, and then you take peanut butter and you heat peanut butter up with butter, and you mix it so it's hot, and then you drizzle it over the top of this thing thing and then you let it harden So the peanut butter hardens like a like a soft candy. I haven't even had lunch yet. You're killing me Soft candy. She's good. I mean it wasn't my thing. I shit on it a little bit. Oh Yeah, while they were serving it. Yeah, I did that's mean. I know well. Yes my opinion She literally made this for her boy because he didn't like a chili dog. Yeah, it was like,

if you're gonna be shit about my choice, this is a fucking white trash. You want to be honest? Yeah. What did you say? I said it was like, it reminded me of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich that my mom made for me in my sandwich bag that sat in my fucking in my in my in my school locker for the whole day. And then I ate it. You didn't go easy at all. So you're nice about it. No, I was not. I wasn't nice at all.

Well, because I came out and said, like, ah, it's not really for me. And then we're going back and forth about it. And it's funny that Justin just said that because there is some truth to that. I was here at Tady because he was giving me shit about the chili cheese dogs. And so he's busted my balls on the chili cheese dogs.

And then you request this fucking white trash dessert. Like, what's up with this? Here it and then you request this fucking white trash dessert like Here comes dude Trash dessert Look at Pillsbury Pillsbury Jello fill bucket peanut butter all over it. You take corn chips. You sprinkle sweet You put them on white bread you roll it up. I always it's always wonder bread now I'm under bread in my in my teller in my sister's defense who made him for my nephew They she did I think she didn't

Allow the peanut butter to cool and dry and I think you're supposed to let it Harden more like a shell and it was still kind of hot and drizzly and so I think that kind of ruined the effect of it So they just it wasn't for me, but I've never been that's way over sweet and fat to me It's too much deep fried's deep fried, you got butter involved, you got sugar, I mean that's just, I would, my stomach can't handle it. It's mouth explosion. I would eat deep fried butter stick.

Oh yeah. Oh you too? Yeah, see, you're my, I'm a big. You're my boy. Butter guy. I would eat that fucker. It called me butterball. Yeah.

That's right. That's true. I'm just gonna own that from now on, I guess. Get it, get it, get it. Get it, get it. I don't know why that's your sound. I don't know. They'd tickle me right in the stomach. Yeah.

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Yeah, seasonal. Do you guys ever get that where you find your moods changing and shivering? For sure, cause you get, yeah, darkness. Yeah, dark and rainy and inst your indoors all day long. You're not getting the natural light. Like I definitely think that is a, I mean, I kind of feel it in myself.

Like I'll get, if it's been kind of a week where we've had a lot of rain and I've been indoors a lot, after a while I get like cabin fever, right? They say, you get restless and I just want to be out and do something like. So I mean, yeah, I think it's really common, right? Especially if you live somewhere like Seattle or Alaska or some of those places, like I could see that being a major issue. Yeah, they've identified that the lack of sunlight can cause that in people. So one thing, believe it or not, this has actually been a prescription for some, I'm not recommending this by the way, just saying.

Tanks. For some people, yeah, as a good or a tanning bed. I think red light therapy is probably going to help you with that. There you go. And it's not a harmful UV rays like you'll get from, you know, tanning about 100%. So, you know, maybe do something like that. The other thing too is the lower synthesis of vitamin D because you're not getting that

much sunlight. And I've read some studies that show that supplementing, well, first off, low vitamin D levels has been linked to feelings of depression. So you could take vitamin D and that might help, but you know what the best thing is? Take the D. You know what the best thing is to combat or prevent kind of this run of the mill, occasional feelings

of blueness or feeling sad,, feeling sad. Exercise. Oh, yeah. Nothing, nothing is better than exercise. It's just hard to get to that when you're in that mode, right? That's the, the hard part is when you're feeling this way, getting out and exercising and putting work in as one of the harder things to actually get you to do. Well, I just read an article like driving down to the tanning salon is much easier than or standing in front of your Juve light is a lot easier to motivate someone to do it, but I agree with you if you can get your ass to the gym and go work out and

exercise the feeling that you have afterwards it's it's it's it's peace for itself. It's also long lasting. It also changes how the brain actually operates it feeds different parts of the brain to perhaps keep feelings of depression and sadness away, not just post workout, but long term, I just read an article where there was another study that came out that showed that exercise. There's several now that have come out to show that exercise.

It's probably gonna start to become a recommended prescription for people who have these kind of mild forms of depression and anxiety. And one of the challenges was exactly what you just said at them in the article they said, one of the challenges is getting someone who already feels that way to get up and move. And so what they're talking about doing is trying to establish strategies for getting people to get started.

Because once you get started, exercise can't, if you do it right, exercise can be self-motivating. Like once you do it, and once you start to feel the benefits of it, especially if it's because you're sad, and you start doing, you start to feel better, that in and of itself may actually help motivate you

to continue doing it. No, I agree. I think you just gotta make that connection. I think a lot of the average people probably don't connect those dots, right? That was from the exercise why you feel so positive today. So I think making that connection, and we're always so driven by how we look and the scale and things like that.

And if you stop thinking so much that direction and think more about your mood and how you feel and attach that to your exercise. I think you'd be more likely to do that. And then you would also probably treat the actual exercise time differently. Like it wouldn't be about, I need to get this hardcore sweat in

and I need to make sure I, no, it feels kind of sore. Yeah, I'm gonna go move. Like I'm gonna go do some movements and I'm gonna practice squatting and I'm gonna go practice deadlifting. I mean, we talk about this on the show a lot. And I'm definitely, this is movements and I'm gonna practice squatting. I'm gonna go practice deadlifting I mean we talk about this on the show a lot and I'm definitely this is kind of where I've been even though I'm inconsistent with like my like regimen

I still am moving, you know I'm still working on my mobility. I'm still going and practicing squatting and so I'm still doing a lot of things that benefit My overall health which is probably why you think I look healthier now than I have since we've started this, is, you know, I'm not just letting myself get out of shape and just eat like shit and not fucking exercise at all. I'm doing movements. I'm just not training like to build muscle like crazy. I'm just, you know, sometimes I'm getting in there

to move and feel better. And that's kind of like what I'm looking. I recognize right away too, and especially after it's been dark and gloomy and like how quickly like I find myself being drawn towards like sugary foods and like processed stuff and that like it doesn't even really seem that appealing, you know when it's nice and sunny out and like I'm very active and I'm just doing things constantly.

And but man, when it starts to get super cold, dark gloomy, whatever, it's just like, for some reason, it's just, that's one of those comfort things. You're like, ah, exactly. Think about how those foods are often used. They're often used as a way to, what's the word? Not medically, but you're trying to, you're trying to treat yourself, maybe you're feeling a little down,

so you're going to treat yourself with a little spike, with a drug like substance of processed food or sugar or whatever, to make it feel a little better. Plus carbohydrates do increase serotonin, so it could also be a part of that. But you're medicating, you're self-medicating, that's the word I want to use. It's yourself medicating with these foods, and the consumption of these types of foods does go up when people start to feel a little down,

because you're just trying to feel better in the moment. But exercise is the absolute, in my opinion, absolute best thing you could do. Now, now if it's hard for you to find the motivation to exercise, like to get started. One of the most widely available mild antidepressant substances that you can take, that actually has an acute effect on you, unless you're super addicted to it already, is caffeine.

So if you're feeling kind of down and you're like, oh, I can't get motivated to go work out, have a little, you can try having a little bit of caffeine, take some theinein with it. That's an amino acid that when taken with caffeine helps negate the nervousness or anxiety inducing effects that caffeine can have. Wait about 30 minutes as you start to pick up a little bit, take advantage of that feeling and then go exercise and move and you may yourself, starting to feel a lot better. The other thing too is just, sometimes you might have to change your outlook

on the seasons. I know a lot of people get kind of sad around the holidays, because it reminds them of lost loved ones or events. We tend to connect milestone seasons or holidays to tragic events. Like I went through a divorce four years ago or whatever. Christmas could might be more sad for someone like that, right? Maybe reframing the seasons that way. So if you hate the cold,

maybe try to identify the beautiful things of the cold. Maybe start to identify the awesome things about the rain. You know, it can be gloomy, but when's the last time you went outside without an umbrella and put on some old clothes and played in the rain? Kids do this all the time, and as adults, we're like, I don't want to get wet. You know what? One thing you learn with having kids is you start to appreciate some of the stuff that you forgot, that was kind of awesome.

And I'm gonna tell you something, that's fucking fun to play in the rain. Totally, that's so funny, bring it up. I remember it was raining not so long ago and I saw down the street on this field they were playing mud football. And I was like, oh my God, I remember doing that. I would look forward to it rained

because then you call your buddies and be like, yeah, let's get after it. Get all muddy and disgusting and, you know, loved it. Yeah, it is all about how you look at it. Next question is from S Miller Fit. Is it true that shorter people will put on muscle mass quicker than taller people? Oh, this is a cool discussion. Yeah.

This is a cool discussion. I bet you, I bet you $50 that Adam, I know you went through the same thing I did because we were both skinny ectomorphs when we build muscle. I bet you, at some point, you wish you were not as tall. Oh, 100%. I still say that today, I tell people all the time like that, that say, oh man, I wish I had your height. I'm like, if I could pick the ideal height,

I would say it was six foot, and that's because of this reason. Because, and it's less of, can shorter people put on muscle mass quicker than taller people. It's less of that. And it's the factors that you have to think about that you're probably not considering. Like one, if you're six three versus five eight, the six three person is typically going to be heavier.

More, they're going to have more mass already naturally on their body. And so that person needs already more calories just to sustain the mass they are. And then if they have to eat additional to build, the calorie intake they have to eat in order to put the same amount of mass in ratio to the person who shorter is significantly higher. And so, and I remember, I remember, because this was when I was a kid, my buddy, who was much shorter than I was,

and he was super muscular, and I was the tall skinny, lanky kid. We ate identical. We ate identical, we trained together, we did everything pretty much the same, we took all the same supplements, we did everything the fucking same. We were like best friends,

and he just looked fucking super muscular, and I didn't, it was so frustrating to me. And the fact is was he was a, you know, a five, six guy who only needed 3000 calories to put on good mass. And I was a six foot three, lanky kid with a fast metabolism that needed to eat five to 6000 calories. If I wanted to put the equal amount of mass on that he was. And then in addition to that, when we do put mass on,

let's say he puts five pounds of muscle on and I put five pounds of muscle on, it looks different on those different bodies. Yeah, yeah, way more surface area. Yeah, it's all spread out over your long ass body. Yeah, if you're a lanky person, five pounds of muscle stretched out over six foot three, looks totally different than five pounds of muscle

put on on somebody who's five, eight. So it's not that they actually put on mass quicker than taller people. It's those other variables that you don't think about that you're thinking to consider. It's like what we talked about earlier in the episode when we were talking about the heavy world heaviest twins and you said, oh, 30 pounds, you know,

if you weigh 800 pounds and you lose 30 pounds, nobody can tell. Well, if you weigh 130 pounds and you lose 30 pounds, everybody can tell. Right, if you weigh 130 pounds and you lose 30 pounds, everybody can tell. Right. If the reverse is also true, if you're a smaller person and you gain a little bit of muscle, it just seems more pronounced.

I mean, the average height of a pro body builder, I believe it's 5.8 or 5.9. Super sure. I think it's the average height. So there is kind of an ideal height. Now, that being said, would I, you know, I'm six foot, now that I'm kind of over the insecurity of the being skinny thing and whatever,

would I trade my height for being more muscular? No. No, you know, I'd rather be taller, you know? I can build muscle, I can't build taller. So I mean, so if you're, people listening right now. I'm trying to stretch. Yeah, and let me tell you something, I mean, so if you're, people listening right now, I can't stretch it. Yeah, and let me tell you something,

you know, there's people who are insecure about being not so tall. I mean, I'm sure they would trade that shit for being skinny or losing muscle. Yeah, you know, all day long. Cause they know the grass is always greener. Oh, like you said, thank you, Justin. You can, you can change that, right?

You can change how big or small you are by how much weight you lift or not. You can't change your height. Now, shorter people also tend to have better leverage with their lifts, not all lifts, okay, because dead lifts tend to benefit people with long ass arms, but squatting, yeah, if you're shorter and you've got short femurs,

your squats look amazing. Like if I watch, you watch a squat or like, like Tom Platt squat. I mean his upper body is nice and erect and he's got great posture and he sits in the hole and he comes back up and it's like gorgeous. You see like Arnold squat and he was tall, he had long femurs and it kinda looked awkward

and painful a little bit, you know, when he was squatting. So I remember that too, like you'd see the guys in the gym who'd be able to bench, hell to wait and they'd have like these short arms and these'd have, you know, like these short arms and these really wide, you know, kind of barrel upper bodies or whatever. What's my like about powerlifting? Is it sort of, you see those discrepancies?

Are you see where, like, one person has like a massive, like advantage, like leverage wise, like with deadlifts versus bench press and where that, you know, it doesn't really carry over. So it's sort of a good equalizer. It's true, actually, the best benchers deadlift versus bench press and where that, you know, it doesn't really carry over. So it's sort of a good equalizer. It's true actually the best benchers are always typically not the best deadlifters. Well, no, I would argue that the only thing that lends well to being tall and lanky is

deadlifting. Lived, lift wise. Yeah, everything else, it would be, it'd be more advantageous to be shorter and compact everything else. The only thing that would be to your advantage is deadlifting. Every other movement, it's a longer lever. It's a longer way you have to travel. And that's the only thing, having long limbs with a deadlift,

you're shortening the range of motion up. You know, versus if you are doing any other movement, you're actually lengthening the range of motion because you're longer. So it's funny too, because I remember it's thrown a ball, you know, longer lens obviously will help. Oh, well, I mean, most sports, most sports you want to have. You want to have advantage. Yeah, like I remember too, as a kid, I was like,

oh man, I wish my arms and legs weren't so long so that I could look like I was more muscular and lift more weight this and that. And then I also would get into martial arts and then I realized like, oh, the best fighters have these really as long as arms are right. Yeah, they're like spider. Yeah, it's not to say, it realized like, oh, the best fighters have these really as long as arms are. Yeah, they're like spiders. Yeah, it's not to say it's like, okay, well, you know, what's good for one may not be good for the other.

But yes, this is definitely a true statement just because they're smaller. Now, that all being said, again, grass is greener, right? I can talk about the benefits of one over the other. So the benefits of being shorter, you don't need to put on that much muscle to look like you put on a lot of muscle. But on the other hand, if you're a tall person benefits of being shorter, you don't need to put on that much muscle to look like you put on a lot of muscle.

But on the other hand, if you're a tall person and you put on a lot of muscle, it looks way different. Pretty impressive. Yeah, you see a six foot or taller built person next to a 5-8 built person. I mean, it's the reason why Arnold used to beat Franco on stage all the time. Franco Colombo, super ripped, super muscular, very comparable to Arnold in many ways. You could argue that he was significantly had way more symmetry, like way more symmetry as far as his muscle balance, but Arnold is so impressive.

And his back dominated Arnold, and we all know that that wins bodybuilding competition. But when he stands next to Arnold, he looked like a kid. Like a child. Yeah, because Arnold was what is six to. Yeah, I think I think he says six four, but I don't think so. I met him. But you know, he's tall in front. That was short. Yeah. Next question is from H. Mezz 4. What are some of your favorite exercises outside of the sagittal plane? I'm more good question. He's a good question. Yeah, I like that. This is definitely something a lot of people don't even consider. Well, maybe you explain the planes first so that people understand like your traditional what a sagittal plane is. Yeah, so sagittal plane for basically in front of you

and behind you. So if I'm going to cut my body and focus just on movements that are in front or behind me, that's going to be a sagittal plane. Which are all your basic movements, squatting, deadlifting, overhead pressing, all the basic movements, squatting, deadlifting, overhead pressing, all the basic. Everything you're used to, basically.

I mean, most gyms are completely set up to keep you in the sagittal plane. And so you almost have to really think about and have intent on your workout, incorporating something else. And the frontal plane where our movements are based left to right, and I'm more focused on moving in that direction.

And then the transverse plane where there's rotation involved. So do you guys have a single, I have one, my single favorite movement outside of the sagittal plane or eating compasses that too, though, would be the Turkish get up. I think the Turkish get up, you get, it's like, all, yeah, that's why it's so great, right? It kind of, it kind of, everything, it kind of gives you. And I remember, I think it was shallow when we were hanging out, was teasing about the Turkish get up because he's a power, power strength guy, you know what I'm saying? And it's like, it doesn't have, right. Yeah, getting great at the Turkish, if you have, if you are super strong with the Turkish get up, doesn't mean you're ever gonna be that great

at deadlifting squatting overhead pressing or any of these other major movements for powerlifting. But I would argue that it's one of the greatest and underrated movements that are out there because when you talk about all the different planes that you would move in, it's one of those things that really addresses all of it. And it's a full body exercise, everything from

the entire kinetic chain. Yes. Activated all at once. And you can really kind of, I mean, and it's a slow exercise to where you really have to pay attention to all those little nuances that your body, it really highlights any compensation that's there.

Just such a great movement. Yeah, and the other thing to consider too is, you develop, if you develop a lot of strength and performance in one dimension, and you neglect the other dimensions, you actually can set yourself up for a higher risk of injury. So, you know, it's like you get a car and you give it a ton of power to go straight and

run. Right. But terrible brakes are suspended. Yeah, and it was like drag racing. Yeah, it's like now you have, so if you're a power lifter and you're super, super, super strong in these sagittal plane movements, right? You're squat, you're deadlift, and you're bench press. Now you've got all this amazing power that you can generate in this sagittal plane, that means that although

your lateral stability is probably way better than the average person because the discrepancy between your lateral stability to the stability of going forward and back is so off. The risk of injuries quite high. I mean, you take somebody who only trains in the sagittal plane is extremely powerful and you put them in an environment where they need to exhibit power laterally and you watch what happens you see a lot of rolled ankles or something more simple analogies like somebody who can deadlift six 700 pounds has no problem carrying something that's like 150 pounds right but it asked them to rotate that and set it on something so you pick up this heavy boulder and you set it to your left or your right because they don't

train rotational movements and they're always training the schedule plane. And because they think that it's only a hundred pounds, it's not a lot of weight and I'm used to, I could deadlift 600, how did I hurt myself with a hundred pounds? Well you hurt yourself with a hundred pounds because you don't train rotational strength. Right. And even though you are really strong picking that up, you're not used to moving outside of that point. Right.

And as far as developing your physique is concerned and your body, doing things that you're not good at and then becoming good at them tends to develop your body in better ways. Now, this is true for basic exercises. If I only ever do barbell curls for my biceps and I get really, really good at barbell curls and then I go and I do drag curls. And these are by the way, where you're on an inclined way again. A skirking.

Yeah, I mean. No, it's where your elbows are behind your body or another version is where you're dragging the bar up your body as you're curling. And now you're not good at it, so you practice getting good at that. You might notice development in your bicep, because you're learning a new movement.

It's muscle fibers have to fire a little bit differently, central nervous system has to fire a little bit differently. And this is true for a lot of things. So if you're trying to develop a very well balanced body and you're kind of plateaued, try getting good at some of the stuff you're not good at. So let's say you're really good at a squat, like you're excellent at squats,

but when you go to try and do like a Kosak squat, which is one of my favorites for the frontal plane. Yeah, you're in your terrible at them, start getting good at them and then watch what happens to your leg development. So what are your, I mean, I gave you guys my Turkish classic for frontal. Yeah, I was gonna mention that one for sure is a go-to for me, you know, or even just a lateral lunge for that matter. You know, any step ups, I think are great to just if you want to simplify, and you don't want to get like super creative, but just like add load to different movements, you're not really used to doing like something in the frontal plane or wrote with rotation.

I feel like a step ups is a great way to do that. with rotation, I feel like step ups is a great way to do that simply just by stepping to your left or your right or rotating and twisting. So you're just sort of slowly figuring it out with your body and what it takes to generate the proper amount of forces and stabilize while your body is moving in a new sort of direction. Well, one exercise that I never did before we all met was a windmill. I'd never done a windmill. And that rotating and bending, I love deadlifting. I'm a big deadlifter. I love to pull a lot of weight. It's something that comes natural to me.

I've always enjoyed doing it. And I thought I had done everything that would contribute to having a better, more stable deadlift. Well, to my surprise, and the reason why I practiced windmills in the first place was, I think it was, I don't know if it was Justin,

I think it might have been Justin who showed us how to do a windmill and we put it in one of our programs. And I remember I went to do it without any weight and I couldn't, I couldn't do it without weight. I couldn't get into the position without weight. It was very frustrating to me. And I knew it was because I had no connection

to that movement. I had zero connection, so I tried to do it. And I would feel stiff and I could tell it's like I couldn't find the right, I couldn't find the right connection of muscles and firing to get myself in a position. So I said, okay, I'm gonna practice this because this is silly. So I started practicing this movement and two benefits I myself in a position. So I said, okay, I'm going to practice this because this is silly.

So I started practicing this movement and two benefits I got out of it. One, my deadlift started becoming more stable because what used to happen with my deadlift sometimes is I start to feel pain in my SI joint and windmills really works that range of motion, especially with the QL muscle, the quadratus and bone. Yeah.

And it made my deadlift feel stronger. The second thing it did is it worked my shoulder mobility because of the bottom position. But you know, it's all because I tried moving in a plane that I normally don't work. Well it's interesting you brought that up because that's what led me to windmills because of I strained my cue when I was dead lifting heavy, and there was just like that slight shift and my body reacted to it, it braced way too hard, it overreacted. I went through a process of just trying to regain mobility and ability at the same time. I started doing windmills, you know,

without weight and then started adding weight. And it really helped to fortify that area of my body that really didn't have any support. I also like the side chopping exercises, whether they be with bands or with a medicine ball. And there was one point where I was doing a lot of these, these medicine ball throws to the side. And I'd bounce them off the wall.

And I got really good oblique development from that. My oblique's got so strong and defined and built from taking a medicine ball, bring it to one side of my body and slamming it to the opposite side. I know Danny just did a good video of this, but I love using the landmine for a lot of these, for like rotation moves as well. I just bought one from my home.

Yeah, yeah, and there's a cool, like, what do you call, Adaptment? Adaptive piece that you can add to this quad rack from PRX, I just got for landmine that you just sort of attached to it Attachment that's what I was looking for But yeah, so you know just doing like a rotational move from side to side with with the landmine is is one of my favorites And you can also do that while you know lunging and I love lunging with rotation because now I'm also You know in that sort of you know lateral kind of stability where I'm also, you know, in that sort of, you know, lateral kind

of stability where I'm accounting for that, but now I'm also like controlling and rotating at the same time, which is way more likely of something in a sport because sports are multi-directional. Like, there's no getting around that. Like, you have to be able to stabilize on command. And not only just from what you're doing, but from somebody running into you, or surface and ground surface, whatever it is, like you're having to overcome all these different forces

and account for them. And so, to me, that's why all these things are so much more relevant than just muscular development. Yeah, I think one of the biggest reasons why people feel sometimes stiff and robotic from resistance training is because they literally train like a robot all in the front, all in the back, like they don't do any other front of act movement and how you train is going to be how you end up moving. So even for those you listening right now that are only focused on aesthetics. First of all, I think it will improve your aesthetics,

but second of all, it just makes you feel better. Next question is from the Dave lifestyle. Of course, you shouldn't go hard when you have a cold, but what about when you are having horrible allergy issues? Oh, man. Yeah. It's a Dave lifestyle. Yeah's all I know. Adam, you have pretty bad, or you've had really bad seasonal allergies. What's it like working out with all, like what do you do? It fucking sucks. It sucks is what it did, what it's a, I mean, anybody who has really bad allergies,

which by the way, I actually, the last couple of years, my allergies have not been nowhere near. You think it's dietary? I do. I do think that I was eating high inflammatory foods that I didn't realize were contributing to my allergies. And I think as I've cleaned the diet up over the last couple of years, I think that especially when I started to reduce the amount of carbohydrate intake,

when we went through that whole ketogenic process, and then I never went back to that. I've never gone back to where I was at 1.5, 600 grams of carbs a day. Now it's way, way less than that. And so I would attribute part of my reduction of symptoms from allergies to that if I had to tease it out, but I've definitely had really bad allergies, most of my life, and it sucks, but it's never stopped me from training hard.

It's just I'm carrying tissue with me. I've been like that before where I'm training hard and I'm blowing my nose in between sets and that's just, I would't because my seasonal allergies could have could be and at times It's been so bad that I've got it every single day. I wouldn't let it I wouldn't allow it to really affect my training now do I know if that's ideal or not? I don't know. I can't tell you that like I know that you know when you have your allergies, you're inflamed So you know am I inflaming myself even more because I'm training hard to

and should I modify my training and reduce it? I never really did. I never modified my training because of my allergies. It would just be like this fucking sucks today that I'm wiping snott on my fucking t-shirt or blowing my nose between sets, but it never adjusted my intensity based off of that. Well, the drugs and medications that people will take

to reduce allergy symptoms are typically histamine blocking times seen out. I would have I avoid that at all cost. So I would rather. Is it a drug? Well, not only that. But some of them do. Some of them, yeah.

And you build up a tolerance for those really fast. And then before you know it, you're having to take, you know, Benadrill's and Zerteck and, you know, a leg run. And then when you go off, you gotta rebound. Yeah, so I, at all cost, I avoid those. Unless I'm just so miserable that I've gotta take them. And plus, I think you've shared Sal too. Like it's, if you're taking a lot of those,

it doesn't, it doesn't affect protein synthesis too. Well, histamine's got an interesting effect on performance. It's a vasodilator. Histamine actually goes up with cardiovascular activity. Now, funny enough, studies will show that resistance training doesn't raise histamine. So I have to look deeper into this, but I think if you're having really bad allergies

and you don't wanna make your symptoms worse, you should probably not do heavy cardio, and you might be okay with kind of slow traditional resistance training to not raise the histamine again. Yeah, I mean to that point, I don't ever feel like when I train hard in the gym that it affects my allergies.

Like, it doesn't make them worse. But if you were to go running and shit like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was then trying to breathe while you're having it. Oh, for sure. But weight training, my weight training never got adjusted based off of allergies. I did colds if I was sick, if I was sick, I would reduce my intensity, but not if my allergies were bothering me. My allergies bothered me just annoying. If I was sick, if I was sick, I would reduce my intensity, but not if my allergies were bothering me.

My allergies probably just annoying. You can also look, I mean, you mentioned diet. You can look into reducing potential food intolerances. They tend to cause an immune reaction. That makes allergies worse for a lot of people. So some people, if they have a mild intolerance of dairy, for example, or a gluten eliminating those, they find way less symptoms of their allergies. I know when I was a kid,

I was an asthmatic and it got worse with dairy and I got better if I eliminated dairy. So look at those types of things. Also look into the that you may be having some histamine issues with the types of foods that you're eating. And there is an enzyme that you can buy, and I think the enzyme is known by its acronym DAO, I believe, DAO or DOA. And you could take this enzyme before your meals and see if that reduces your allergies. And all it is is an enzyme that helps break down the histamine that's found in certain foods. Like some foods are very high in histamine. Avocado. Avocado or sardines, canned fish, processed meats, tend to be high. Certain nuts tend to be high in histamine or at least or cold histamine, um, releases if I'm not mistaken. Which I guess you should be careful with. I just talked about being on the ketogenic diet

and how that's if sets. Yeah, because you could go keto and then go high histamine diet or limits your options. Yeah, because your options are kind of limited. Which I never had that problem. I mean, I really think it had more to do with the systemic inflammation that I was probably getting from the high carbohydrate and taking what I reduced at. But my allergies have significantly reduced. I mean, I can count on what a great sign.

Yeah, I can count on one hand. It's funny too that we actually haven't talked about this much because I guess it's just slowly over time got better and better and better. But I can count on one hand how many times I took an allergy pill this year. I mean, I for sure took it less than five. Wow.

And at one point in my life is a young adult in my mid and early 20s. You know, in a season I could go every single day taking a Benadryl or a legra, or in fact I used to keep three different bottles and I would rotate through them so I wouldn't get used to one strain or the other and I just keep using them all the time.

So I went from somebody who used to use, you know, allergy pills every single day almost during a high season to pretty much none. Yeah, because histamine is a bit of, as a vasodilator, sometimes what people will do is they'll, if they work out too hard, like they do that cardio, get more histamine up, they'll find that that working out with allergies gives them a migraine or really bad headaches as a result. So I would say it's fine to work out with allergies, but you know at the end of the day you gotta

listen to your body. So if it feels like you gotta go easier or slower, then go ahead and do it. And like I said, look into your diet to see if it feels like you got to go easier or slower, then go ahead and do it. And like I said, look into your diet to see if that affects your allergies and if it makes it feel better. And it totally speaking, I've had a lot of clients who've had success with that. And so, so I buy. So look, check it out. Go to mindpumpfree.com right now and go check out our free guides. I believe there's like 10 on there right now. So you can go check them out, you can download all of them and they cost nothing.

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