Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 953: Fresh vs Frozen Veggies, Ways to Improve Brain Function, How Strong You Should Be & MORE

Episode Date: January 25, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about how to optimize brain function to stay on top of the game, how strong the average individual should aim to be in the major movement categories, hinge, squat, push, press and pull, the pros and cons of fresh vs frozen vegetables and the best way to get over a break up. New Product Alert: Organifi Gold-Chocolate. (3:26) How Adam uses NED to combat his dog’s anxiety + is Justin’s dog the dumbest one he has ever had?! (10:00) The origins of the ‘Skateboard Revolution’ + the guys share their own stories. (14:28) How ‘clicks’ have evolved from the 80s to today. Is this generation too sheltered or simply more informed? (19:50) Should there be regulations on advertising to children? (28:25) Not just a game: NBA 2K League quickly becoming serious business for all. (33:09) How things have gotten so good, we have to find things to complain about. Google employees freak out over the word 'family', group identity, self-destructing mindset & MORE. (37:50) #Quah question #1 – What are some things you can do to optimize brain function to stay on top of your game? (44:08) #Quah question #2 - How strong should the average individual aim to be in the major movement categories, hinge, squat, push, press and pull? (55:50) #Quah question #3 – Elaborate on fresh vs frozen vegetables and the pros and cons of each? (1:06:35) #Quah question #4 – What is the best way to get over a breakup? (1:12:45) People Mentioned: Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Products Mentioned: January Promotion: MAPS Anabolic ½ off!!   **Code “RED50” at checkout** Organifi   **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** NED   **Code "mindpump" 15% off first purchase** A Brief History of Skateboarding - ThoughtCo iGen: Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us – Book by Jean M. Twenge PhD Won't You Be My Neighbor? - Documentary Mind Pump Episode 887: The Fastest Growing Sport in the World with NRG Esport Co-Founder Andy Miller Not just a game: NBA 2K League quickly becoming a serious business for all Report: Google Employees Freak Out Over the Word 'Family' The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance - Book by Steven Kotler Stealing Fire: How Silicon Valley, the Navy SEALs, and Maverick Scientists Are Revolutionizing the Way We Live and Work - Book by Jamie Wheal and Steven Kotler Are You Strong? Mind Pump Free Resources

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If you go to Organify.com-mindpump and and use the code mine pump, you'll get 20% off. Then we talk about skateboarding. Yeah. Yes. I'm definitely the best skateboarder of the group. Then we talk about the challenges that youth face today versus past generations. Adam tends to think that the generation today, you know, it's just as hard as it was, you know,

the generation in the 1950s and 60s. Don't make me say it. It's just different. It's just different, you know? I'm looking out for all our millennials and I, I got your back, guys. Yeah, that, that, that, that, I don't know what hurts there, feeling good.

I didn't see that one coming. Then we talk about the viewing habits of children and the self-destructive nature of the philosophy of collectivism. It's resulted in a hundred million deaths in the 20th century. Not to make you feel bad for it, but you might learn a thing. Then we talk about fitness. This is 40 minutes in. We start answering fitness questions.

The first question was, what are some things that you can do to optimize brain function? You want to stay sharp, you want to stay fluid with your words, you want to have good thinking, find out what you can do in that part of this episode. Don't hit your head. The next question was, how strong should the average individual be for health and longevity, but we go a little further. We talk about, look, if you want to be a strong person in the gym, what should you aim for with your lifts?

Next question was, what's the difference between fresh and frozen veggies besides the fact that one is frozen and one is not? Are there differences in nutrition? Should you eat frozen? Should you eat fresh? Find out. And the final question, of course, we're fitness experts, but sometimes we pretend to be experts in other subjects that we're not. This question is, I love doing that. What's the best way to get over a breakup? We give our relationship advice. Also, this month, maps and a balic, the best flagship program that we offer for muscle building and metabolism boosting.

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You will get in shape faster and better if you get the right program for your body. You can find it there, MapsFitnessProducts.com. I had Doug, I saw you take home last night, I saw you take the, organtify the new flavor home. Did you try it? I did, how was it?

Fantastic. What is the flavor? Yeah. It's chocolate with the gold juice, cacao with the gold juice. Oh, and the herbs in there, like a sassafras. Already, already your scoring points. That was a week. and the herbs in there like sassafras. Already, already your scoring points.

That was weak. Listen, that's not bad. Listen, listen, Linda. That was it. Listen, Linda. Perfectly interjected, sassafras. Yeah, you stop with all your sassafras. Well, let's see where you guys can bring it in later.

But I want to hear about this flavor. Well, if you like hot chocolate with a kind of a caramely flavor, you'll like this. Really? Yeah, I like the regular gold juice flavor. So it's a cold jar. It doesn't have to be hot. It can be cold.

Is it better than the original gold flavor? They're different. They're both great, but I'm a big fan of cacao or chocolate. And so I really like this one. You know, maybe our fans don't know this, but when we travel, which we don't do as much but we should travel a lot, each one of us, there's always something that each one of us would bring. It's just a personality thing.

Each one of us tends to bring something and Doug always has a bar of extra dark chocolate. I love chocolate. He literally has it with him every time. I always do. I'm a chocolate fanatic. It has to be very dark. Yes, and while we're working, he'll like break off a piece of it and just...

It's suck it. If it's the one that you eat, it's not really that bad for you. The sugar content on it. It's very low. Yeah, it's like half a bar has like six grams of sugar. Yeah, that's a whole half of it. Do you get stimulated by the chocolate? Like, not like that. Whoa. Hey, easy there. Google that. Yeah. Stimulate me with the chocolate. Do you

get stimulate? Does it have a stimulant effect on you? I don't feel like it does, but maybe it does. Because I know you're sensitive to caffeine. Definitely sensitive to caffeine now. Chocolate, especially dark chocolate or high amounts of cacao have a compound called theobromine that is chemically similar to caffeine. So it'll give you some people give them a stimulant kind of wake up effect. That's the actual chocolate that will kill dogs. Now, did you? Did you do that? So you look at me all crazy. My dogs got in a hold of my chocolate before that kind of thing. And they was okay. Okay. Is it from that? Is it the feeling? Isn't it like, is that kind of a myth like where you know, the reason I supposed to eat from my experimentation? It seems to be a myth because because it's the milk chocolate It's mainly consists of the sugar and milk, but if you actually have like

Concentrated chocolate, that's where the problem is I feel like it's like when your mom used to say don't get in the pool after you eat your sandwich You know after you have your baloney sandwich, so don't get in the pool because you get cramps. Yeah, that's made up Actually, there's a little bit of truth to that. It's not the same It's like what they said what the fuck does that mean there's a little bit of truth to that. It's not the same, it's not what they said. What the fuck does that mean? It's a little bit of truth to everything. Um, I mean, I got, here are my palms a little bit. Yeah, if you've got a shape, there we go.

If you look at it with a microscope. So Doug, when you, when you made the, the gold juice, you used, what kind of, what'd you use? Coconut milk, almond milk, what'd you use? I always use macadamium milk. Do you heat it up? You know, yesterday I just said it cold. Okay.

So it was not the gold juice, it's the gold with the cacao. So have you heated it up and frothed it? Cause that's where it's at. Oh yeah, I'm sure that's great. Oh, I haven't tried it yet. I'm a big frother. Yeah, you are a big frother. Yeah, I'm a sassafraser.

I'm a sassafraser and frothed in some of the beans. So last night actually I did it cold. So I just put the powder into the cold milk. I actually took a froth or to it to just stir it up and I drank that. And it was like drinking chocolate milk and you know that gold juice has kind of a carmoly flavor. And so you kind of get caramel and chocolate

and I don't know. I don't think they put a little salt in there too and make a salted chocolate caramel. I feel like you just made that up. I kind of made that up, but I do feel like that's what it seemed like to me. Add some salt. But if you don't have it in there, you make a salted chocolate caramel. I feel like you just made that up. I kind of made that up, but I do feel like that's what it seemed like to me. Add some salt. But if you don't have it in there, you can always add it.

That's exactly right. It is relaxing, that's for sure. It's got the, was it the turkey tail in there? Little raishi. Makes it feel nice and calm. I slept like a baby, so it worked. Every woke up every two hours. What, yeah.

Yeah, crying. What is turkey tail? Is it a root or what is it? No, if you look at a turkey, the back part of a turkey is the tail, it's not that. It is an herb and it has sedative properties. Similar to Camamil or Passionflower, they increase the release of, I believe, GABA in the brain,

which has got this kind of calming effect. So now why GABA? Why use one and not the other? What do you mean? Like why use turkey tail and not chamomile? Oh, they're both really, really good. That's a good question. I like chamomile quite a bit too because it's very, very mild and it's very safe.

Passion flower is much stronger. I wouldn't give passion flower, for example, to a kid, but I would give Camimil to a kid all day long. So I guess it just depends. Camimil is a flower and so some people can have a, if you have like allergic kind of reactions to flowers, sometimes people don't like Camimil. But I don't know. I'm not quite sure why turkey tail would be better. I think it's probably got more adaptogenic properties.

I try to do camomile with the boys in their water. So I was. Doesn't work on them. They don't like it. I can't get them really to drink it up. Even if you put it in like some cheese. So no, what I do is I took I took camomile tea and I brewed it. And then I put it in theile tea and I brewed it and then I put it in the refrigerator. I got it cool and then I poured it in their bowl for their water. So they would drink it like water. And I did that when I was doing that. This was before we had Ned, right? So since then, I've used dead neds work fine for helping settle them down because they get anxiety when we travel. So when I would take them, when Katrina and I take them

on our trips, I was trying the chamomile thing and it just didn't seem to work. Not as well as the Ned stuff. Camomiles really, really, really mild. It's something you can drink every night. It's not like other sedative types. I feel it though. When I use it, I feel it.

I love it. Yeah, I can tell a difference. I give it to my kids sometimes. My daughter, I'll give it to her, because if she gets, sometimes she'll wake up in the middle of the night, gets cared. So I'll give her chamomile and she goes to sleep. And it's like I said, it's very safe.

I know in Italy, the doctor will recommend giving it to babies who have colic. It's also good for digestive issues as well. So yeah, but yeah, your dogs are pretty anxious. They're anxious, they're all turkey's aren't they? No, they are. They are. They're pain the ass.

It's the one job. And I don't know if it's a breathing or not, because I feel like I've been around bulldogs that are really cool in public, but minor just are pain the ass, man. Do they call me each other down or they worse alone? No, so by themselves are actually really good. They hype each other up.

So a lot of times Katrina and I will walk them separately, just because they're easier to handle. If they're by themselves and other dogs or runners or people go by, our neighborhoods, you got a lot of people walking around and running around and walking their dogs. And when you got both of them on the leash together and you're by yourself, like, especially Katrina,

like they'll pull you. They'll pull on her and it's kind of a headache to try and settle them down. And they really vibe off of each other's energy. If one of them is by themselves, totally different. They don't even care. It's no big deal. I mean, try to thunder vest or whatever.

Yeah, and they... It's like a wife beat her for dogs. Yeah, they work on me It calls me a fuck down. Yeah, you get the same you get the same kind of effect with the undersell just a really tight Sweater and stuff that they wear and they love that they do like that and they're so round and cute I almost want to wrap them up myself. You know what I mean? Yeah, wrap them up like a like a sausage. Yeah I'm yeah, now they're they're they do? Like, have you wrap them up in a blanket? No, no, not at all, actually. It's, you know what I mean?

Funny thing about that breed too is like, so if you, if you go tell them like, you wanna put a shirt on, they'll, they'll perk up because they know what you're doing. And then you go get one of their shirts and they'll come running over to you and they'll sit down and they'll be super excited for you to put the, put the clothes on them.

Yeah, you put your dress on, You put hats on them and everything. That's a funny thing about them is that's the only breed I've ever had that allows you. That's what they fuck with. That's why you always see bulldogs as when you see pictures of dogs and they got hats and shit on them and stuff like that. That's right. Yeah, you could do well. That's a little bit different than clothes.

Did you try doing that? Yeah. You try having right-scape clothes. Yeah, you could do well. Yeah, that's a little bit different than Closed. Did you try doing that? Yeah, you try to have him right escape. So what I'm convinced that it's it's something that they all do because and what I noticed was the first time I kicked this skateboard out, I mean, Bentley literally got on it and he didn't ride far and it wasn't good, but he rode it right away. But why he rode it is because they're so short and low to the ground. And they go to go bite the

wheels. And when they go to bite the wheels, they put their other two feet on the mues and four just naturally. Exactly. So it's almost and I'm sure that's exactly how this happened. I'm sure some guy who was a skater had a bulldog pulled it out one time and the dog went fort right away to chew the to the rubber tires. And when they go to chew the tires, they have to put the, in order for them to get their little fat necks around to bite, they have to get closer to it so that they put their feet on the board and then it naturally pushes the board forward. And they're trying to bite the, they're trying to bite the wheel and the board keeps rolling. So it just kind of, it encourages it.

Yeah, it just encourages them already riding it. It's really funny. And I was like, oh, okay, I get it now. Like this is, this is why people use bulldogs. My dog doesn't have any cool tricks. Yeah, I was gonna say, except shooting on your shoe while you're wearing it. Yeah, that's a pretty cool trick.

And now, like, the problem is he eats all the socks in the house. And so he goes, he actually shit out like three full socks with the other day. And then turn around and eats it again. Oh my God. Like he has to be the dumbest dog I've ever had. No, no. Oh God.

He is. I honestly don't think he's dumb. I think he's just fucking with you. I think so too. He's not. He's not because he's just devious. Does he, when he see, didn't he also like spray your curtains or something with, uh, Oh, with poops, with poops. Yeah yeah, that was, you know, he was sick.

Oh, that night, that wasn't. Maybe. Maybe you think. You guys have this conspiratorial thing behind all this. He just does stuff like that all the time and he doesn't think, he runs into the table to dunk. Oh no, that's what that is. You know, he just does dumb shit all the time.

It's yeah, I love time. It's hilarious. Yeah, I love it. It's crazy. I posted a meme yesterday on my, my InstaStory and has a picture of a wolf. And it says, I think I'm gonna go make friends with these humans, like, what's the worst thing that can happen? And then it says 10,000 years later

and it's got a picture of a little pug with big eyes. Like, it turned into that. It's fucked up. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man. Yeah, it's messed up. You know what I'm saying? Oh man. Yeah, it's messed up. Oh, dude. You were talking about the skateboards,

and made me think about the skateboard revolution. And what decade was it where skateboarded 80s? Oh my God, yeah. Was it the 70s or 80s? Was it called dog town? I think it was the 70s. It's a documentary about the 80s. You know how that all started, right?

The original skateboards had metal wheels and because they've been around for a long time and the problem with that is, you know, imagine a skateboard with metal wheels, you hit one pebble, you're fucking flying. That thing's gonna stir, stop, and you're flying off. You're gonna do an endo.

Yes, it was the invention of the polyurethane wheels that turned them into what they are today. And because you know how it feels on a skateboard they're smooth and they can hit little rocks and go right over them. And then I think it was the 70s where it started to kind of take off in California, right? Is that what that documentary is about?

Yeah, I think it's like 78, it's like late 70s. I just remember Doug Kyle, he was my next or neighbor who actually was considered a professional skateboarder back in the 80s. And he would do the, where they would go to like the drained out pools. And they would do all those tricks and stuff in there. That's where the half pipe was invented, right? That's where they got the whole idea. Yeah. So he was part of that movement of like, they would thrash your magazine and all these things would take pictures of him going

and skateboarding in these emptied out pools. See, I want to say it was late 70s when California, we had such a bad drought that it was ordered that people drain their pools. So it was like a state, like the state said to people, if you own a pool, you got to drain it or we're low on water. And so you had all these people with empty swimming pools in their backyards, and what these kids would do with these skateboards, and they look, you know, different than the ones you see today, is they would look over fences looking for these empty skateboards when I'm

excuse me, empty pools when nobody was home, and then they jumped to fence, and that's how that whole scene got created. And I mean, it must have been cool to be the first kid to come off the board, because at first they would just up and down, and you must have been, I mean, you imagine how cool you were to be the first kid to just kind of come off the board.

Dude, he taught me some of the very first tricks too. Like I remember, like, where, he taught me how to kick flip and then also had to, had a land on top. So like basically the skateboard turned on its sides. It was like straight up. So the wheels were facing up and then he jumped like on top of that and then he kicked back down.

Like, so anyway, he taught me how to do, could you do all that? Yeah. No way, you knew how to kick flip and everything. You needed it. Yeah. Really. It took me like, I ate shit for years, you know, like working on it, but then I gave up because it was just one of those like unforgiving skills,

you know, you start doing it and you just keep landing on asphalt. Mm. It sucks. That's the, did you wear the, what shoes are the Etsy's? Now I had some vans. Vans. Yeah, I? I had some vans. Yeah, I had some checkered vans. Vans in a vision.

That was a vision when we were kids. That was a big deal. I was in skateboarding for a minute there. At my, now, was this just unique to my school? But we had the skaters became a big thing when I was in high school. They had their own click or crew. But they also kind of also look, they also kind of dressed like cholo's a little bit.

Yeah. Was that the thing? That's the California stuff. That's the California stuff. They would wear dikees, they would still wear the penelton sweats shirts or whatever. Yeah. But they would skate instead of, you know, whatever.

Yeah. That's cool. That's crazy. Was it a big Steve Cabal era? I think that was my favorite. Yeah, that was a big thing. You guys was cool too. Did you skate at them? I didn't skate and it wasn't as big in my school.

You guys were standing on horses. Yeah, no. We were country, right? So I had a very small, we were a, we weren't a very diverse school. There's a handful of Mexicans. There was two black kids and then everybody else was white cowboy riding kids for sure. You were like, you were super diverse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I totally was.

That's why I hung out with all of them because I didn't really fit in with anybody, right? There wasn't like a group of guys like me. But you were, you're, you're, you had your jocks and your athletes. So you saw your athletes and then you had like your cowboys and then you had your jocks and your athletes, so you saw all your athletes, and then you had like your cowboys, and then you had your small group of Mexicans, and then you had like the one token black guy that was hanging out with you, but he was an athlete, so he was hanging out with us.

So there really wasn't, there wasn't really the skater click. There was a handful of kids, and maybe that's skated, but the skater kids were more like the stoners of our school. Like you were, there was the trouble makers of that school. You were like, none of them were like really good.

There wasn't really major skate parks there. If you smoke pot, you also had a skateboard. It was kind of like that. You know, it was more of a pot culture with, oh, if you smoke pot, you probably have a skateboard too. It was less of like, you're a bad ascator and you maybe you smoke pot. Yeah, I went to high school in San Jose

and so we were very diverse. Obviously, San Jose being a very diverse city. So it was, I would say, obviously you had your white kids, a lot of Hispanic, large Hispanic population in San Jose, a lot of other minorities, Black and other people. We did have our clicks. And what I'm hearing now from kids is that the clicks are, it's not the same.

They don't have the same kind of clicks that we did. Like we had stoners that hung out and they listened to metal and they had long hair and that's where people bought their pot. You had the cholos which you had the goth, which was totally different to. Goth back then was like Marilyn Manson was huge. You had the Cholos, which you had the Goth, which was totally different too. Goth, back then, it was like Marilyn Manson was huge. Yeah, yeah.

And everybody's dying their hair and like painting their nails and being all gloomy and shit. Yeah, yeah. And they'd hang out in the parking lot and then we had, yeah, we had the Jocks and then we had the, God, what else was there? There was definitely the Cowboys and the Hicks. Oh, we had, we just called them the Hicks. We had one we had one cowboy

Yeah, my school poor guy was outnumbered like he was the only guy That we had a lot of bless them. Yeah, but I read yeah It's pretty but I guess it's a little different now when you talk to kids now They don't they don't I don't think they create clicks like they used to don't seem to congregate like that the same way I feel like everybody is dispersed and doing their own thing I mean based off of what Inzo's saying, it doesn't even sound like there's like high school parties are a big thing.

Really? So weird. That's what he said. He said it's not a really big deal. Like there's not a lot of people. Oh, that was everything back then. Yeah. You're throwing the party a whole week of school

was, you know, 20% get your homework done, 80% figure out where you're getting drunk on the weekend. Really? 100%. Wow. Yes. That was 20% of the time. It was just make sure you get your shit done like carry your three O's so you could play sport. Or for me, it was three O's.

I had two to play sports. Yeah. Yeah. And then the rest of the time, it was like, who's going to get the beer and who's house can you get to? And we're... I wonder if... I wonder if...

Because we read about this, the younger generation and statistically speaking, they do less drugs, they have less premarital sex, they commit less crimes than our generation did, and then we make fun of them for being sheltered and covered in bubble wrap and be, I wonder if it kind of goes hand in hand, you know what I'm saying?

They were, they're so like sheltered, which makes them not do certain things, but it also makes them, you know, easily offended. So that's not what makes according to Igin, the book. That's not what makes them that way. What makes them that way is that information is so readily available that kids are smarter.

Like, for example, part of what they attribute the less premarital sex is the statistics on a kid that someone who has a kid at 16 years old, what happens to them financially and the likelihood of them being on welfare. 16 impregnant was huge for her, defending a lot of her. And they actually talk about that in there.

And so they attribute that to that, not so much because they're vending a lot of them. Yeah, and they actually even talk about that in there. And so they attribute that to that, not so much because they're sheltered because they're smarter. Kids have known forever that you had sex and you people get pregnant. I don't know if that's... I don't know, it's not that part of it. It's that what that looks like.

Yeah, what that indicates and what the predictions of that person and the same thing goes for sex before being married and stuff I think that they have found out that most successful relationship If you get married at the, and I don't remember what the stats are but I remember reading it It's like, you know, if you get married at 17 the likelihood of getting divorced as much higher If you get married at 20 it's lower at 25 it's it's lower, 30. So as you get older, the likelihood of you divorcing gets lower and lower.

So, and kids know these statistics now because it's so easily to access this information. And so it's kind of like, you dummy, you're falling in love at 17. You know the likelihood that you're gonna get married and follow your, you know, meet your sweetheart. Well, it's also, adolescents is also just, it's just continued to extend.

You know, you go back to generations, people were moving out and getting married. But again, that's when it's just getting, they, they, they, they, they attribute that to, to what I just said. Well, part of it could also be this, today, to be a, a, a successful contributor to society, you have to have a lot more skills

than you did two generations ago. You just did, requires more education, more experience. You're a child for longer. You know what I'm saying? A 17 year old in the 1950s could probably be equipped to get a job and then support a family. A 17 year old today,

unless they invent some crazy tech company, it's probably not gonna happen. People live at home longer. I don't know if I can get on board with that. You know, I don't think it's very hard to start an Instagram account, start snap and half naked pictures yourself. Yeah, but are you gonna build a business and support your family?

Fuck a lot of kids do. You know what I'm saying? I don't know if that's a fair statement. I don't think it's any easier or harder today than it was. Requires way more skills. It requires way more look. Let me put it this way. I don't think that's a fair statement. I don't think it's any easier or harder today than it was. Requires way more skills. It requires way more, look, let me put it this way. It's the inflation of, what do they call it?

The inflation of education or skills. For example, in the 1970s, a four year degree was a big deal. Today, everybody has a four year bachelor degree. It doesn't mean anything anymore, like it used to, because there's so many of them. And you go back even further, it's again, less skills required.

It takes a lot longer now to be an adult than it used to. Kids live at home for a lot longer, things are more expensive as a result. I just think it's different. The ability to become an entrepreneur is far easier today than it was 10 years ago. So the skills required, the barriers to entry or much lower.

Yeah, that's a short period though, 10 years, a short period to look at. Yeah, but I mean, that's, I don't know, I just don't know if I agree with you. I don't think it's, I think it's all relative. I mean, I don't, I don't ever believe that like, you know, our generation has it easier or harder. I mean, it's, it's all the fucking same.

It's just different, right? It's all the same, but different, same, same, but different. You know, right? It's like, there's, It's just different, right? It's all the same, but different. Same, same, but different. You know, right? It's like there's just different challenges now. There's just different, different stuff that they have to deal with. So you don't think that the generation today has a lot easier than say 50 years ago, 60 years ago. In what, in what aspect? I don't care.

Just in general. Yeah, I think, yeah. If you could choose. I think that, yeah, well, I think the challenges are different. I think that they have different things that they have to worry about that kids in the 50s didn't have to worry about. And vice versa.

Well, I mean, there certainly isn't cell phone. Kids stuck to cell phones and addiction and depression and suicide rates, like there are today. I mean, they now have to think about these things. And now, is it controllable and is it easy? I don't know, you could argue that putting your phone down and not getting sucked into the social world. And you know what they were doing 50 years ago in schools?

They were doing nuclear bomb dive under your desk. Right. And so if you're somebody in the 50s that you scoff at with the kids at the deal, then you know what we're gonna say, we kids at the deal is, and we say they're a bunch of, I don't know, we say they're a bunch of pussies, but I mean, there's in their defense, it's a different challenge. It's just a different challenge. I think it's always will be. I definitely think it's different, but I also think if they could trade, I don't think they would. I think a lot of them would be like, ah, this is, this is a lot harder than I thought. It's funny. I was reading this article, um, in, uh, I forgot where it was. I believe

it was, uh, reason magazine where people are complaining about how expensive it is, uh, to nowadays. And people were, you know, calculating the cost of, you know, uh, the cost of living today versus, you know, 60 years ago and saying, how, look how expensive it is. And they're saying, well, you got to compare apples to apples. Today, what we consider to be normal expenses didn't even exist in the past. We didn't have cell phones, we didn't have cables, we didn't have two TVs in the house.

Household didn't have two or three cars. Household had one car. So they said, if we count apples to apples, it's far less expensive today than it was back then. The difference is today, we just, we think you need more shit. Way more stuff. And we, it's accepted, you have to.

Now that's 100% agree with that. I mean, we have definitely, I mean, that Mr. Rogers documentary that I talked about, I mean, talks about that. We, when we, when television came, we had this explosion of advertising and marketing to the younger generation that we never did before just didn't exist. Kids didn't get advertised to the way they did when TV came out and then from that point

on, we just became obsessed with being consumers. We just have to have, have to have. It's the next thing. I mean, even if you watch the trend of like clothing lines, there used to be a time when clothes, or if you were like a JC pinning or whatever that, there was seasons. It was like four seasons. Yeah, they got rid of that whole thing. Yeah, no, it's weekly now. So it's there's weekly drops. And that's that's insane when you think about that. Let me ask you guys a question, because I'm all for very open, very free, largely unregulated markets, allow the market to decide what consumers decide, what succeeds and what doesn't succeed.

But one area where I tend to differ from my other maybe free market supporting friends is I do think there should be regulations for advertising and selling things to children because I consider adults, you know, when you're an adult, I think you can make all your own decisions. But I think when you're a kid, it's very different. And I think advertising to children, period,

in my opinion, I don't think should just be free and open. I think that should be strictly prohibited personally. That's a very interesting discussion because I could argue both sides I feel like. I feel like I could say, well, that's the responsibility of the parents to not allow them to be exposed to that. And that's your choice as a parent.

Do you just let your kids roam on YouTube all day long? Do you just let them roam on television all day long to where they can advertise like crazy? Or do you police that a more closely and do you educate them on that? And so I could say that the responsibility still falls back on the parents. But then I could also say like, man, that's a really probably challenging place to be as a parent, to have to police all this shit, not knowing what kind of advertising they're getting bombarded

and it's kind of unfair to be picking off children that don't have... Well, kids are easily... So manipulated. The kids are very, very easily manipulated. You could definitely change how they feel and think, and it's not just trying to get them to buy a product. It's also, we know what advertising does as adults. They're trying to get you to buy clothing, but maybe

you don't buy the clothing. In the meantime, you feel bad about yourself, because you don't look the way that you think you're supposed to now, because of the ad, or you're not cool enough, or, you know, everybody else is having a good time doing this you think you're supposed to now because of the ad or you're not cool enough or you know, everybody else is having a good time doing this thing and you're not. If you watch TV channels for kids, look at the commercials that are going to the kids. Pick out one thing on there that's fucking good. It's all garbage.

It's all shitty, crazy food with crazy amounts of sugar and highly processed this, that and the other. It's toys that are terrible. It's all bad shit. And so when it comes to children, I'm for regulating certain things. And I think advertising to kids, I think silly. It's like, why would, why are we going to, you know, these are children. Now when they become adults, go for it.

Now you make up your own, your own decisions. But I also know your, you know, understand your argument. That should be up to the parents to police this kind of stuff. So I also kind of agree with that. What I personally think is going to happen, what I would like to see happen because of the way the internet works. And now they have all these like parental apps and stuff that I can, for example, I have one on my kid's phone where his phone, he cannot go online after 10 pm or before 7 am. It just can't. I hooked up his phone that way.

And I can also put filters and stuff like that on there. I think that there's a market for stuff like that. I wish there was a market for advertising, but the problem with that is, I don't know, I don't know how that would work, you know what I mean? Yeah, I think it's crazy. It's all kind of wrapped into the business model. Well, I don't know. There's a strong argument on the raffle.

Well, I believe that's like one of the fastest growing markets right now as kids in average, right? Like YouTube and shit like that, it's supposed to be insane. Well, you see how suede they are to like certain channels of them just opening presents and playing video games and that's huge, huge market for potential businesses to wanna advertise into or like get their brand name in there somehow. So.

Yeah, I can waver on this one because I'm against regulation 99% of time, but when it comes to kids, I can also see where, you know, your theory that you've brought up on the show before about what 3D printing is going to do. I mean, it may all be fucking, that even doesn't even matter. Doesn't matter. Yeah. It's going to be like, it may get to a point where it's, you know, and it'll be interesting

to see what happens when anybody and everybody can pretty much have the, as far as all the things. And maybe that's what, maybe that's what it'll take for us to come back full circle when we'll stop valuing things so much because it'll be so readily available for everybody. It doesn't matter if you're rich or poor. We'll start to realize like, oh, this is nothing. Yeah, you'll start to look at it as like,

it's actually becomes more daunting to have a bunch of shit that takes up a bunch of space in your house and things like that. It's just like, oh, this is in my way. I don't even use it. I'm getting rid of it. That's a good point. You guys remember when we had that guy on talking about eSports

and how that was exploding and Andy, whatever? Yeah, so I guess too, and he somewhat brought up some professional teams within the NBA, within NFL, like all these people kind of looking into it. Well, I guess the NBA is like all in, like they already have like this, they're building an actual league for NBA 2K and having that being a new tournament that basically is, is lives as like an eSports tournament. So each one of these like the Mavericks and like franchises already have invested into

an eGgame sports team that they've assembled. Wow. So it's, they're putting like lots of money in that direction. We need to revisit that conversation. I forgot about that. I forgot we were supposed to go down and go see,

wasn't that supposed to be this month too? Yeah. That's why I wanted to bring it back up again because it's, it's, it's exploding. No, it is. It's one to be this month too. Yeah. That's why I wanted to bring it back up again because it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it Kids don't talk about them anymore. They don't they talk about all they talk about gamers Yeah, they know professional gamers names and they know You know video games and this is how they compete and play they were all excited because they recruited certain names within the space and And got them to play for their their squad and they actually the NBA They consider it like so they have four leagues now. So they have the WMBA They have like the

International NBA or something like that and then this this is like going to be their fourth like legit league. Now Do you guys believe that or do you believe that maybe you guys have like kind of a distorted view of that because your kids are really heavy into that like I Can't even if because that gaming was I was a gamer too. I love to play but I was as a kid because I played sports I still was way into professional sports and real athletes more than I and I would were addictive video games I mean to all the way up into my mid doing is changed it is I really do so you know The excitement and momentum in real sports is definitely dwindling now look look at, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, look at, if you go on YouTube and watch the most, because YouTube will tell you what kids are watching.

You could see clearly by the, it's some of the highest views out of anything. Oh, go on YouTube and look at the most watched videos and channels for, for kids, teenage kids even. And it's, it's, it's not just video games, it's people playing video games and competing. Well, yeah. No, I know this.

I mean, I got even my nephew who's 25, like, and work in making great money and so that, you know, he'll tell me like, he's, I didn't even think he's like this because I don't even see him play video games that much, but he watches people play video games on YouTube. My niece. What the fuck?

It's so weird. My 11 year old niece is, she's got this crush on this boy. She Jessica was visiting her last week and you know, you were all on FaceTime, whatever. And then she shows me her phone, it's this picture of this boy. So I'm teasing him, I'm like, you're not allowed to like boys or whatever. And I'm like, looking, I'm like, who is this kid?

I'm like, who is that? She's like, oh, I don't even remember his name. He's a fucking YouTube star. They don't talk about celebrities from Hollywood. They don't talk about athletes. They talk about YouTube stars and fucking internet stars. They could give a shit about, that's totally gonna change the whole game.

It's insane. No, you're right. Gary V. just did a video the other day of, with this little kid, he's talking to him and the kids Like he asks what he wants to be when he grows up and he says I want to be a YouTube star All of them say that yeah all the kids say that yeah, I don't think my kids even said that I don't like I don't know about that You have you ever seen that one video of these kids?

I think they're maybe like nine or no they're probably like maybe 10 or 11 I think they're maybe like nine or no, they're probably like maybe 10 or 11, but like they were supposed to dial using like an old school phone, like a cord phone. Oh, and they didn't know what you mean, it was a rotary phone. Rotary phone, thank you. And they had no fucking idea how to use it.

How do you use it? Of course not. So weird to me, it's not into like, they grab it and like they're like turning the rotary and they don't even understand that you have to pick up the phone first and have a dial tone and all that kind of stuff. Like completely like clueless.

It was crazy to me. Yeah, that's well, shit's changing so fast. It's an interesting time to be alive, man. The new media is replacing old media and there's nothing they can do about it. There's an interesting time to be alive man. The new media is replacing old media and and and there's nothing They can do about it is absolutely nothing they can have answered interesting times the article that you sent to or this morning of The Google getting freaked out over the family statement. It was their employees They I guess they had a big problem with and I guess I don't quite understand this I think what you can do at Google is if you have an issue

You can put it on one of their message boards and then other employees can upvote it and if it gets enough Upvotes then the CEO or whoever will address it and so somebody had a problem with them with Google Referring to family using the word family like saying family friendly, as meaning people with kids, because they said it was homophobic, and it's also discriminatory against people without kids. Because, you know, me and my husband are married, but we don't have kids. And, you know, you need to use different word,

like instead of saying, you know, family suitable, or family friendly, you should say, all people friendly. Collective non-binary group. Yeah, and so, and people had a big problem with it, and so they actually, one of the executives that Google had to address it with their staff and be like, you know, we're sorry, I got to read, I got to find it and read it, what exactly they said, but it's, it's, it's, it's preposterous.

No, I, you hit it, it's exactly what it talks about. Yeah, yeah, no, I'm sorry. That's preposterous. You hit it. It's exactly what it talks about. Yeah, yeah, no, I read it. It's ridiculous. You know what it is? That makes me laugh. It's not things have gotten so good that people were creating problems.

We have to find things. No, I told you. I told you, I shared on this show a while back, my niece had, you know, her friends over from work that they all worked at Facebook and to listen to what, like, you know, it's totally normal when you get like three people. You're in your 20s. You all work at the same place.

Like, what do you do? You bitch about the boss. You bitch about the work environment. Like, I think that's been happening forever. But to hear what they were bitching about, I thought was really fascinating. It was like this whole thing about like, oh so and so, you know, he's, you see he's got all Asian people and he's only got one Indian person.

There's like no white people. And they're complaining. Yeah, they're just, they're just talking about the diversity of the person's group. Like that fucking nice numbers. It's so crazy. It's gone backwards. It's so weird.

That mentality is starting to self-destruct by the way. What, what you're seeing now? What was this, there's no end to it. You did a great meme. Where you're seeing now. What was this? There's no end to it. You did a great meme. It's, what's the guy in, I believe, you know? Thomas Soul. Yes, that's the, that's exactly where you knew what I was thinking.

If you believe in rights of an individual, then there's no such thing as gay rights, minority rights, straight rights, that would all, you don't need to say that. It's all human rights. It's all rights. This whole movement is starting to cannibalize and destroy itself, where you're seeing women's marches get criticized because there's white women that are.

To many men marching. No, or there's white women. Or white women, yes. We need to men marching. No, or there's white women that are white women. We need to have other kinds of, or gay parades or gay events being led by a white male, or by a Christian male. No, no, no, that doesn't count anymore. So now what's happening is it's a self-destructive,

and this is, by the way, this is throughout all the history, it's not a new thing. When you go down the path of collectivization, where you collectivize people based on a group identity and remove the individual, it all starts to destroy itself. You saw this happen in the Soviet Union. You see this happen in any communist regime where it's, you know, it's the other guy, once the other guy is gone, then it's other, other guy.

And before you know it, people are starting to kill each other. It becomes a very terrible environment. So this is what's happened where it used to be, you know, let's just value people for their qualities and their character. Now they're looking at groups and being like, there's not enough Indian people in that group. There's not enough women in that category.

There's not enough women in that category. There's not enough women in that category. And it's like it's, that every day there's a new invented term for something. Yeah. And it's it's just there's no end to it. I just don't see any end to the logic in they say they self-destruct. You see these groups that that form themselves as a as a group to strengthen their group identity. So like we are the, you know, minority Muslim group of whatever. And then within that group,

they'll start to self-destruct. Well, wait a minute, you're straight. And, you know, so that means, but we're gay. We're privileged. So we separate, and then we separate, and then we separate, and it becomes self-destructive. And that's part of the problem. And I think Google's leadership,

and it's this tech, because tech companies are very forward advancing, very fast growing. And I think that there are a lot of times trying things that are different. And one of the things that they try, they try to be very progressive. And they're also trying to give everybody a voice.

We wanna hear everybody, and we'll address any problem. Everyone's looking, a company should allow that, but a company should also have strong leadership that says shut the fuck up, sit down. Yeah, no, follow me. No, this is getting ridiculous now.

If you don't like it here, leave. We'll hire someone else. And so they're just, what they're doing is they're emboldening these people who work and one of the best companies, what was the average pay? Yeah, 250. Yeah, the highest.

It was like 250 grand a year. Besides Facebook, yeah. It was insane, or 100, it was 200 grand a year besides Facebook. Yeah, it was insane or 100 It was 200 grand a year. They get ridiculous perks like working if you work at Google You make up 0.01 percent of the world's population you have incredible benefits You are very lucky individual. Yes, you got there because you worked hard But you're working in a fucking awesome place and they're just sitting around thinking what can I complain about today? Oh when they say family friendly,

then I think I can be offended by that. So let me start this petition at work or whatever, fuck out of here. Yeah, stop complaining. Shhh. Shhh. Quick call. I'm going to have my everything.

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An eagerness landed! Quee-qua- It's the motherfucking world. Eagerness landed! Quiqueau. First question is from Ma name mat. Ma name mat. What are some things that you can do for optimum brain function to stay on top of the game? For example, clear thinking, faster response time, etc. This is a great question, because for a long time, I used to always think about ways of optimizing my muscular strength and physical performance.

But as I've gotten older, and since we started Mind Pump, where so much of what we do relies upon our mental sharpness and our ability to articulate our thoughts and converse and interview people and stuff like that. More and more, I started focusing on what things can optimize my mind and my speed and how I talk. And what's funny is the things that optimize brain function are kind of the same things that optimize physical performance. It's just, I look at them a little differently now. Like, for example, getting good sleep, yeah, that's huge. It is a very big one,

and that also benefits the rest of my body, but it also benefits my mind, eating properly. And here's a funny thing. I feel like I can get away with it more when I don't think of things in terms of mental sharpness. Like if I eat poorly and don't get good sleep, my mental sharpness is off a little bit, but my physical performance, I could take some coffee

or whatever and still have a hard workout. So I feel like I can tell more if I pay attention more to how my mind is working. Does that make sense? Yeah, I think so. I definitely sleep has to be the highest. I mean, that's for me to think clearly and be able to retain information or remember something, it's all based off of sleeping how tired I am for the most part because for me, that's one of the biggest

struggles for me is really to have that ability and that sharpness. When I haven't slept well, it is totally distorted as a result. I know that right away. I feel like the difference for me between when my mind is feeling optimized and when it's just feeling whatever, the difference is my ability to grasp explanations, articulate what I wanna say, my verbal fluency, that there's a big difference there. It's like, when I'm feeling sharp, I'm fire.

When I'm not feeling sharp, I'm searching sometimes for words and I'll capture an idea, and if I don't talk about it right then and there, I'll lose it. Like, we'll have conversation, and I'll be like, oh, that's a great point. And there'll be a great idea that I want to say. And then you'll finish your idea and I forgot. I already forgot my idea.

Sleep hands down is the most important thing that will affect that for me. And then the second movement. But then movement, I mean, for me, movement is vital in terms of being able to have the energy and that type of, just overall energy towards whatever I'm trying to talk about. I need to move my body in order to express all this pent-up tension and everything else.

And so for me to be able to move so much sexual tension. But what? Somebody said that I think I'm listening. He's got to move. And he's got to move his hips. You got to read Rise of Superman and then stealing fire if you like that afterwards, because I think that's a great book along these lines. Personally, there's been some things that I've noticed.

To piggyback off of what Sal said, this job above all other jobs I've ever done in my life has given me the tools to measure this better than anything else. Because we are recorded when we talk and it's live while we're doing it, right? So we don't go back and edit or change things. What comes out of my mouth comes out of my mouth with whether I like it or not, right? And then I can go back and I can listen to it.

And then I can also assess like, oh, what have I been doing this week? And what have I changed? Like, so this job has allowed me to measure that. And the things that I have noticed that have helped me the most or impacted me the most, agreed, sleep for sure,

also agreed with Justin. When I'm in a rhythm of training and I'm being consistent, meaning three plus times a week and I'm very consistent with that, definitely notice a difference with my verbal fluency on here. I also notice too, just when my diet's in check,

like maybe, and it's hard to say, which one is more impactful, because all of these are really impactful. One of the biggest things I noticed a couple of years ago when we did the ketogenic diet for the first time, I noticed a big difference in mental clarity from that. And I just probably attribute that to when I was eating high carbohydrates where I was 300, 500, 600 grams of carbs,

I was probably inflamed a lot. So I probably high inflammatory foods I'm consuming. And so that just caused, you know, probably a little bit of foggyness for me and then switching over to keto really did it. Also, when I we fast and I come up and bring that up fasting was was a big component. Yeah. So the fasting, the fasting, the keto thing I think has made a big difference. I also noticed for me because I'm advocate

of marijuana. I got to a point where I was probably having too much. I mean, it was so fun that we had a job where I technically could smoke in here if I wanted to. Because I had that luxury, I think there was a few times where I would be doing that. And as fun as it may be, and as much as it might have loosened up a conversation, it did take away from my mental sharpness. And so that was something that not only did I have to eliminate that, but I also had to reduce my consumption outside of this. I have a kind of an interesting experience

with that though personally being like, I was able to, I think not live so in my head. So when I started to take like a 5 milligram dose, that allowed me to just express myself, I think with less judgment, which helped me to explain myself, I thought like a little bit more effectively, which was interesting.

Yeah, because probably because what gets in your way is a little bit of anxiety over what you're gonna say. Yeah. So it lowers that, similar to how maybe a drink might do for someone at a party, where it lowers that feeling of anxiety, they're less inhibited, and then the words come out and flow more. And substances can definitely have that effect,

especially if that's what's preventing you from, being able to be sharp in the first place. Not too much, for anybody. I mean, for me, it's starting to start ramp watering. Well, even like the stuff, we are pro, or, you know, organified pure, which is like a new topic, right? Something like that.

That one works really well. I like that. And what I notice is if all those other things are out of whack, I don't really feel that. But if I'm dialed in on my diet, my workouts I'm getting in, I haven't been flooding my system with tons of caffeine. And then I take something like the pure. Oh my god

I'm flying or if I just have came off of caffeine or reduce my consumption a lot and then and then actually Spiked it for a day. Oh my god. I feel like I'm on fire. Oh, yeah, but you have to learn to the challenge of that is this is Okay, I have all sudden today. I decide I'm gonna have 250 milligrams of caffeine, which is, you know, double what I would normally intake. And it's like, boom, I'm on fire, I love this. And then you become addicted to that feeling, so then you run it back the next day, and then you run it back the next day. And then all of a sudden, the same feeling that you were getting that first and second time you did it is starting to diminish. And so, being able to have the mental and self-awareness to see that in yourself, that something's

becoming a habit, pull back from it, and then reintroduce it, you can use tools like that. That's helped. Oh, one of the biggest motivators for me to come off caffeine is to capture the magic that caffeine can provide when you're sensitive to it. Because when I'm using it consistently, you lose that magic. Your body adapts, you get sensitive to it. Because when I'm using it consistently, you lose that magic, your body adapts, you get diminishing returns,

then if you don't have it, you feel totally foggy, and then if you have it, you maybe feel normal, or sometimes even feel a little anxious. And so for me, for what we do with our job, there's definitely times I wanna be on point. Like if we're gonna do a big interview, or if we're gonna have an episode big interview or if we're going to have an episode where I really want to convey a message,

I would like to have a tool like caffeine, which you're right at them, it doesn't do much if everything else is shit, but if I dial everything else in, I can use it like this magic that I can take, and it'll bring out an extra element of a performance out of me. And so this job has really,

I mean, I have a whole protocol, you know, like if we're, when we would travel and do these podcast hard trips and we would, I was gonna bring that. Me with people, I would, the night, you know, the house, that. Yeah, but I would, I would give everybody, you know, you, or get if I green juice,

make sure we go to bed on time, we gotta eat our vegetables, when we wake up in the morning, you know, have our, because I would treat it that way, like I would for a game, like if you're gonna, if you're a high performance athlete, look, here's a deal, if you're a professional athlete, the best professional athletes don't fool yourself, they have a ritual before their games, for sure,

they do things that improve their performance, both psychologically, like maybe, you know, we're putting the same socks on, and you know, physiologically, like, I eat this kind of breakfast that makes me feel the best the night before I do a massage. Well, you have to do that to be able to get yourself into that flow state, that optimal state,

where yeah, you're not too much in your mind and you're experiencing it in the present time. Right, so because of the work that we do now, I treat it very much like I am a professional athlete at what I do, and so it's real important for me to feel sharp, and so I make it, I've never made this much of a big deal about going to bed on time.

Never, I was always, I could get around you're the Michael Jordan podcast. And so, no, not at all. I take it very seriously, and I've noticed the things that it does for my ability to, you know, to communicate. Yeah. And those are the big ones. Here's, here's something that blew me away a while ago was learning that stimulants like Adderall actually did not make people more intelligent. This was, this was crazy for me

because I thought it did. I thought people would take it and yeah, that was great. And perform better. And what they found was they didn't perform any better. They thought they performed better. That was the difference. And so that's the thing about other substances is you may take certain things and feel like you may be doing better. But they're not really improving your performance.

Only things that really improve your performance are optimal health. So all the things that fall under that umbrella of optimal health, which are things that we advocate for optimal physical health, exercise, eating right, getting good sleep, you know, managing stress, those are the things that are going to optimize your brain function. Now as far as supplements like pure, one of the active ingredients is lion's mane and lion's mane is not as stimulant. Lion's mane has been shown to improve cognitive function in people with diminishing cognitive function. And so with people who are normal, otherwise normal, it seems to have this kind of health promoting effect.

So it's not like you take it and then you feel like you have caffeine, but if you take it on a consistent basis on top of being healthy, then you may notice gradually over time, you just feel sharper. Next question is from E. Kuluuke. How strong should the average individual aim to be in the major movement, categories such as hinge, squat, push, press, pull? What is considered the minimum amount of strength you should have for health and longevity? Doug, would you, while we're talking about this, an answering, there is an article that

the T-Nation had, and I know we've shared it on the forum. Like, consider are you strong or are you considered strong? It's just a really good chart. It goes through all the major exercises and it shows you what you should be able to do, which one of these looks. Yeah, and it's like a good, very good, excellent, or elite, something like that. Right, but there's like three categories

to kind of give you an idea of like, where is a good article? I know, and I remember we went through all of them and we all agreed like, yeah, no, these are legit numbers. I think this is a really good article. Oh, here we go. These are strengths standards.

Let's see what they said and see if this is the same article. You know, for health and longevity, it's a little, it's a different question, okay? Or a different answer. Health and longevity, and we'll go through these. This is it. Yeah, this isn't good and great. Yeah, that's what it is. So this is what they're saying, and we largely agree with this from a strength performance

standpoint. So this is more than just longevity and health. So it says here, for a man, if you can squat one and a half times your body weight, that's considered decent. Two times your body weight is considered good. Two and a half times your body weight is great and is considered great for the bench press it's go go to women So for women it's 0.75% of your body weight for squatting 1.25% of your body weight is good and

Two times your body weight is great for squatting and it goes down the list for bench press You know and for deadlift and for they. And they don't really list the percentages for the other lifts. Now, I agree with these numbers for performance. I definitely think if you're a man and you can squat, two times or two and a half times your body weight, you're freaking strong. If you can squat one and a half times your body weight,

you're pretty damn strong. For longevity and health, that's different. Longevity and health, you just need to be strong enough to be able to move optimally, not have any pain, not limit your day-to-day activity. You be able to reach up above your head. Yeah, it really depends on what you do every day, right? Like if you're somebody who loads heavy boxes all day long

for a living, like your strength requirements are probably higher than somebody who has a job where they sit at a desk all day long. And then if you're somebody who sits at a desk all day long, then really all you need to be able to do is all these basic movements that would outside of your job would require you to do, which would be like you said,

reaching above your head and grabbing something, bending over and picking something up at the house. And so, you know, those type of things for longevity purposes, you don't need to hit anywhere near these types of numbers. I think, in fact, I would even argue that if you have great numbers and all of these things, it might not be ideal for longevity. Yeah, if you're, if you're, if you're somebody who squatting two times to three times your body weight, that's a, that's a lot of load.

That's a lot of load. Probably not ideal for long time. Yeah, I mean, that's over 600 something pounds for me. Like if I was squatting over 600 pounds on a fairly regular basis, I can't imagine that the, the impact long term that would be on my joints. I mean, of course, if my mechanics were perfect

and everything like that and flawless, but the likelihood of you being that perfect and even then there's wear and tear. Over the years and you just have to account for that. No matter how perfect your form and technique and what you've been eating and all that, it's just, it's inevitable at some point that you're gonna have wear and tear and break down.

Yeah, strength is, for longevity, strength is extremely important to maintain joint health and movement and to give you stability so you don't fall and hurt yourself, and give you strong bones and stuff like that, and of course, faster metabolism, so you can burn more calories. All those things we talk about,

that's why strength is so important. Now, you can take strength to all kinds of new levels, but once you go into performance, you're taking away from longevity. And this is actually true, this is true for any physical pursuit. It's true for endurance too. If you push your endurance to the max,

you're probably not gonna have the same kind of, I can't help it always. I know Adam brings this up a lot too, but you take that sort of avatar video game character and you have given the attributes that you want him to have. And it's like, you can only fill them up with so many of the attributes before it starts taking away from the other ones.

It's just, that's how these things work. Like your body has to prioritize, its focus and what it's good at. You're not going to be the most athletic person in the world and the healthiest person in the world. It's just not going to happen. No, you're not. They don't, they don't go hand in hand. They both have carryover to each other very much so. But if you are on the elite level of athletes, there's going to be some extra wear and tear. You're doing stuff repetitively, which all those things don't lead to ideal longevity

and health. You know what the irony of all that is? If you are the, if you have the best longevity and health, at some point in your life, you will be one of the most athletic people in your age category. So I'm saying, like if you got super good longevity and health in your 90s, stretch it out. Yeah, and you're like, yeah, you're 75 or 80,

you're fucking for your age group, you're like the most athletic person that they're in. That's a really interesting theory right there. I wonder at what point does that happen, right? So let's say you take two people identical in everything, identical twins. Yeah, I can beat LeBron James, well, she's 92. Well, yeah, right, right, Like you'll be able to do it. Like imagine if you've

been waiting it out. Oh, yeah, imagine you're is 21 on one. You're as twin brother. And you went the the ideal longevity health, you know, and you're doing everything. You're working in, you're meditating, you're walking balance diet, lifting your body weight, you're not doing anything crazy and you've But consistent as fuck your whole life at what age does his elite level athleteness Start to diminish and you guys catch up to each other because obviously right now in his bell curve And his prime he's whooping your ass you go out for a sprint. He's beating you You go to jump as high as you can he's beating you get under a squat rack he's beating you but at some point you will end up catching up and at what age would you guesstimate that that happens?

It depends on the sport. I think if your it depends really on the sport. Right because he diminishes faster based off of what he's doing. If he's a linebacker in the NFL. Yeah. He's probably falling off the wagon by the time he's scored. I feel like golf sport. It was only sports you could do. Like once you're like, yeah, season into your like 80s and 90s, you could still do it.

Yeah, like I feel like if we took some like old, you know, Sardinian man or Okinawan, you know, elderly person in their 80s, and because they tend to have incredible longevity, you know, maybe, you know maybe 50 years or whatever from now, like Justin said, they'll be able to like out run and play, you know, LeBron James, because he's gonna be all fucked up

from all the years of basketball, you know what I mean? Yeah, that's funny. It's so good about that. Now, the other, the other... It's a long game, you know what I mean? The other thing to speculate on is, what if though, in the LeBron James type of athlete who's We're we all know is pushing his body to extremes and isn't ideal for longevity

Retires next year, you know at his peak physically and then switches his mindset to longevity All recovery, right then switches him his his mindset to longevity Then then it'd be interesting to see, because you would think that all the one positive thing of stretching the boundaries and pushing is the adaptation process that over time is gonna have a... You've stretched out your capacity.

Right. So your work's as great as most people. Right, so then we have a different argument there. Well, there's two things. One, I think it'll reverse a lot of the damage. I don't think it'll reverse all of it. But here's something else that's interesting. The genetics that make you an extreme athlete

tend to be the same genetics that make you live a long time. So when you look at the numbers, the very, very tall and very, very big tend to not live as long as people who are smaller and shorter. And athletes tend to be fucking giants. They tend to be these monsters of humans with these huge bone structures. Horse power.

Just big people, and you don't see a whole lot of extremes, is what it is, really. You don't see a whole lot of extremes that live a long time. The people that tend to live a long time besides all the lifestyle factors, like eating the certain way and being active. I just find it. I find it fat.

I mean, this is the God side of me. It just thinks that he played it out this way on purpose. It's like, you get this option, right? You could be the superstar athlete and have the most amazing 30 years of your life, but then it's gonna end short. You know, it's like, and you're gonna be financially wealthy. You're gonna have all these attributes everyone's gonna wanna be you. And then you could going to end short. You know, it's like, and you're going to be financially wealthy, you're going to have

all these attributes, everyone's going to want to be you. And then you could be this guy who's just like, I'm pretty much average at everything. Nobody knows who I am. I'm not tall. I'm not short. I'm not fat. I'm not skinny. I'm just kind of in the middle of the way.

But, you know, you'll probably go and notice forever, but you're going to go and notice for 90 years. You know what I'm saying? Isn't it funny? How that all weighs out. You know, like, just... Well, when I look at Well, when I look at it, it's like this. Would I trade the, and we're talking about extreme like high performance athletes,

but let's just talk about the, like most people, right? Would I trade higher levels of performance and strength and looking in particular way for the negatives that end up that happen as you age where you can't take care of yourself or you're immobile. I don't know, man. I used to train a lot of elderly people and the depression rate among the elderly is very, very high. It's mainly because a lot of them can't do shit for themselves. And, you know, that could be 10 years of your life.

Like, you could be 70 and from 70 to 80, it's just a shit, it sucks because you can't take care of yourself, you can't move very well. It's a chair bound. Your health is just not good. So I don't know if it's worth it, you know, maybe because I'm getting older, I'm not old yet, but as I get older, maybe the longevity is becoming

more and more luring because I don't want to live the last 10 years of my life, you know, to create it. Yeah, just not be able to do what I want to do, not be able to, not be in the band. Yeah, I want to have options. Yeah. You know, next question is from Take a Yes Fit. Elaborate on fresh versus frozen veggies and the pros and cons of both. Yeah, you know, Max, Max,ugovir just to post on that.

Oh, really? What did he say? Do you guys see what he said? Yeah, he's basically, I mean, there's, he actually literally did a pro versus con on fresh and frozen. And what it really came down to is there's not that much of a big difference. And if anything, the, the little bit that you, you lose from the freshness from being a frozen food like this, you gain in the ability to be able to store and keep and have accessible at any time, right? So, well, the thing about frozen that I learned this, I don't know, about 10 years ago, and I thought it was really cool.

I had this client that worked out in my facility who worked in this field, they actually produced fruits and vegetables. And I was having a conversation with my clients with one of my other clients and I remember saying, you know, if you get, if you buy veggies, you should always get fresh. And he says, no, it's just, that's not correct. And so I said, well, why? Because I knew that was this field.

And he says, well, if it's out of season, or if it's getting shipped from far away, they pick it before it ripens, and it has its maximum nutrients and phyto nutrients and antioxidants. And then by the time it gets to you, you're getting something that's less nutritious. It's got lower levels of antioxidants, lower levels of some of these beneficial compounds

that we're finding in things like sulfur, fame, and other types of things, in Dolphory, Carbonyl, and Broccoli, for example. He says, when they freeze them, they pick them at their peak ripeness, and they pick them and they freeze them, and when you freeze them, you literally maintain their freshness and maintain their nutrients.

And so, and I remember being blown away by that could I always thought fresh was always better. So I did more research and he's correct. And where I ended up with that is, if it's in season, if it's a vegetable of fruit that's in season, fresh is good. If it's not, you're better off eating frozen. Yeah, that makes sense. And there's a lot of're better off eating frozen. That makes sense.

And there's a lot of places in America where, I mean, we live in California, we're a bit spoiled that we can get a lot of things in season all year long, not just from here, but from Mexico, which is real close to us. So avocados, you know, we can get pretty much year-round. Have you ever gone to the East Coast or wherever and tried to get fruit when it's out of season and see what it looks like? It's terrible. I mean, oh yeah, you go over to get an avocado somewhere like this is not an avocado.

Because you have to ship it from so far because it doesn't not grow locally or you get some strawberries. And I remember looking at the strawberries I'm like these are terrible. They don't look like one thing. I mean my biggest qualm is just like the texture and the taste and like all that. Like, I definitely anecdotally, I love fresh as much as possible.

And I know that there's CSAs and things that locally that have in-season vegetables and fruits that I can then choose from. So I base a lot of the meals off of what we do have in terms of the fresh fruits and veggies that are available, but I'm not opposed to, yeah, the frozen thing because it definitely does capture all those nutrients. It's not like you're losing it. Well, you and you're, I mean, and I think that's the point that Max was making. And I can totally relate to this being a bachelor of many years, like having fresh vegetables and fresh fruit is really tough.

It's tough when you, when you're by yourself, like what are you gonna buy one banana? You know what I'm saying? No, you buy five or six and that means I gotta have a banana every single day for that, you know, that week. You gotta eat it quickly. Every single day.

And, you know, I don't always want a banana every single day and so then, you then the X amount of them go bad. So not being able to have frozen food is a bit of a challenge. So the only knock that I ever had on frozen is sometimes because they preserve them in sodium, or there's the sodium intake in there. So if you're somebody who's watching, you're a competitor.

Yeah, if you're watching, you're sodium intake and you're taking in a lot of frozen stuff, sometimes that's you'll see that they have. Not for the average person, that doesn't matter. Yeah, it doesn't matter. So if you're a time of health, it's not a big deal. I'm just saying that if you're if you are like a competitor, like I was competing and I'd use this is like for the like few weeks before, what week before competition.

Well, you've just been aware of it. It's not even a matter of like, can I, can I do it? It's just that, you know, when you're somebody who's tracking and paying attention and watching your weight and watching the way you look every single day, if you're eating all fresh stuff and you're eating a relatively, you know, moderate sodium

filled diet and then all of a sudden, I have, you know, a day where I have a bunch of frozen vegetables or fruit in the diet. It could cause me to retain some water for a day or two and that could throw you off. Freezing is one of the, because we always talk against processed food and this, that and the other.

Technically processing means you're taking something and changing it to improve its shelf life. Freezing was one of the first ways humans learned to preserve food freshness, to prevent it from going bad, obviously because you're preventing bacteria and decay from happening. And freezing is one of the best ways to do that. And it's fine. It's perfectly fine. It's kind of cool.

You can freeze something and not make it worse for you. It's not like you're adding salt packing, right? Yeah, so it's not like you're altering the nutrition of it or you're making it unhealthy because you're adding preservatives or whatever. It's just frozen, it costs way less. Frozen vegetables are cheaper because they're easier to ship. Frozen vegetables last longer.

I can take out what I want to eat and leave what I don't want to eat. The nutrition is perfectly fine. Everything, from the antioxidants, the phytonutrients, everything last longer, I can take out what I want to eat and leave what I don't want to eat. The nutrition is perfectly fine. Everything from the antioxidants, the phyto nutrients, everything is in them, just like it would be when it's fresh. I guess the drawback is the taste. You cook a frozen vegetable that tends to get soggy.

You know, it's nasty. It's not as good. Not as bad. I get frozen all the time. Yeah. Next question is from our Brock 74. What are the best ways to get over a breakup? Oh, Jesus. You picked this question.

Probably Justin, he's been dumped a lot. Go ahead, Justin. Yeah, dude. I mean, it's a perfect way to start really working on yourself and working out, all right? I mean, what an opportune time to get buff and awesome, you know? Like it. No, like honestly, though, opportune time to get buff and awesome. You know, like, no, like honestly though,

that I, I remember having to just go right into the gym and just pour myself into the gym. And that was like the best distraction ever to get over somebody and like just kind of get through that. But yeah, I remember telling the story of the break up I had when I was out in Chicago. And it was just like, that was one of those that just totally floored me.

And it was between it being like freezing. I had no friends. Like, you know, I just broke up my girlfriend. And it was just, it feels like everything's against you, man. And the gym was my savior, dude. How long did you stay sad for? Do you remember? I mean, it took, that was a rough one because it took,

it was about four years like, consist like that I was with her. We didn't break up or anything. It was just like a hard break, right? After that and then it was, yeah, it took me, it took me quite a few months, I think. See, it's to finally get over it. What it, it's a, they,

when they do studies on people who go through hard breakups, the effect on the body is like, it's like losing a loved one. No, it's a, it's an interesting thing. I've been through a lot of breakups and only one of them devastated me. And it was the first, my first, like, first love that, and one of the things when I got older and I reflect back on what was so different and what changed me and along the point that Justin just made, I think is so true, is at that point, I was so invested in her and not myself that I felt devastated afterwards. She was my everything.

My life revolved around her. And I think this happens a lot in relationships. I think we get into relationships. And many people lose their identity and who they are. And they don't know anything but each other. And then when it ends, that's why it's so devastating. And all the other breakups I had after that, you know, some people might think that I was cold or heartless, but I never lost myself after that. I learned from that mistake and going forward, I no longer put that much into the other person

if I first was not putting that into myself. And so I didn't lose myself ever again. It's that whole identity thing, right? You just identified yourself as being this person that's with that person. Right. So to be able to now like figure out who you are, like exactly the same lesson I learned

was like don't put that much weight in that area. Like really be comfortable with who you are regardless of the circumstances. Yeah, and I think that area, like really be comfortable with who you are regardless of the circumstances. Yeah, and I think that you do. You get so hung up on this person that, you know, and that, if you feel this way afterwards, and this is the hardest time to do this, because of course you feel rough

and you're feeling sorry for yourself or you're pointing the blame on what they did wrong in the relationship and you're kind of caught up in this whole storm and it takes a lot of discipline to detach yourself from all that and have some perspective and go, okay, you know, why do I feel this way? And nine times at a 10 when you start diving into it, you'll find that the reason why you feel this way is because you feel that you need that person and that's a really bad place to be in any relationship. I used to, one of the things I used to be so turned on

by that Katrina used to say to me, she'd say, I don't need you, I want you. And it's right there. Yeah, totally, right? And I love that. You know, I don't want you to need me. I want you to want me. You know, I want you to want me to be a part of this journey.

You want me to be a part of these things and enjoy this process with you, but you most certainly don't need me. And your life goes on without me. Like, that doesn't make me feel insecure to hear a partner say that. In fact, it makes me feel really good because then it allows, then it gives me permission to also do me to be me and to be the best version of myself. And what's ironic of all that is opportunities to do me. Right. The more self-issue you are with with bettering yourself, the better you will be as a partner. And so use this opportunity of being in this situation to find yourself again and and bury yourself into the things that make you a better person and grow as an

individual. And for me, that was always like reading and work, making money and being successful and then my health and fitness. And I would just, I would pour myself into those things. And then when you get reconnected with those things, don't lose it again when you get into another relationship. You should, the right partner, you should be able to add into that mix and you never lose those things. But if you continue like what happens with a lot of people

is they go, they fall into patterns where they just keep dating the same person, but it's another person, right? It's a different name, but it's the same issues. You still keep running your whole life around them and you lose sight of who you are and the things that make you happy and that fill your cup. And then also you break up again and then you're in this whole fucking cycle again. It's like, find yourself again, find, find what fills your cup that makes you happy, pour everything into that,

and then when the time comes and you meet another person, add them to that, don't take away from those things to try and live for them. Yeah, I think people like to talk about how to get over a breakup because it's so painful and they want a way to take away the pain. And I'm not just gonna say break up, I'm gonna say any kind of a loss

because they all feel terrible. Here's a thing with any loss. The pain is not gonna go away. Okay, what I mean by that is, not that you're not gonna get better at some point, you will, but you're gonna feel pain so accept the fact that it's going to hurt. What will get you through that is a sense of purpose. That's always what gets you through pain. That's always what gets you through the tough times. If your sense of purpose was

that person, you're going to have a tough time because they're not with you anymore. If your sense of purpose is not that person, whether it be your family, your work, your religion, whatever, then you're still gonna feel the pain, it's still gonna suck, but you're gonna have a sense of purpose that's gonna get you through the most difficult times of your life. And this is why... And I've gone through some incredibly difficult losses. You know, I lost... I mean, I just went through a divorce, although I wouldn't put it in the same categories or break up in the sense that it was mutual,

still very difficult. But before that, I lost somebody very, very close to me, somebody who I was like a second mother to me. And they passed away, they died. It was very, very, to me, somebody who I was like a second mother to me. And they passed away, they died. It was very, very, very, very painful, very difficult. Anybody who's ever lost somebody close to them will know how difficult and painful that can be.

And what got me through it was my sense of purpose for the rest of my life. And also what I took from that relationship that I had with this individual. And that's what you have to do. Otherwise, it's unbearable. If it's all about the pain and pleasure, you're gonna be in a situation

where it's gonna be almost completely unbearable. I mean, this is true for any most, look, I had a client who she lost her son. I can't even imagine what they must feel like to lose a child. I can't even imagine. But she did, and you know what carried her, was her other child.

She said she had another kid that she had to be strong for and maintain and continue. So that became her sense of purpose. And she told me that's what helped her survive through that. So when we're talking about getting better yourself, going to work out, improve your business, improve your friendships and relationships, that's what I mean by sense of purpose. If I'm in this pain, this sucks, let me find some purpose that's going to get me through

this difficult time. It could also be just looking at yourself and saying, boy, this is challenging. I can't wait to see what kind of person I'm gonna become at the end of this, because it's gonna be a better person. How can I become a better person? But, you know, it's gonna hurt, man. I tell you what, one of the worst things you could do when you're in a lot of pain is numb it.

It doesn't make it go away. It just prolongs the pain, and it just kicks the can down the road. And you don't want to numb your pain because that's what can get people into a lot of trouble. It can turn into addiction, alcohol or drugs or sex. It can turn into more terrible relationships or terrible situations. So you just have to accept that this hurts like crazy and I just got to feel it and I need to find a sense of purpose so that I can keep taking one step after another and keep moving forward. And that's it.

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