Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 961: Tom Brady's TB12 Method Review, Pros & Cons of Exercising Fasted, Training in Person vs. Training Online & MORE

Episode Date: February 6, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the pros and cons to exercising in a fasted sta...te, the good and bad of Tom Brady’s TB12 Method, the importance of training in person before training online and their passions they may want to turn into another business. Mind Pump recommends Sex Education on Netflix. (6:15) Will we see more epic series/novels go towards the streaming platforms rather than straight to film? [11:35] The guys recap Sal’s birthday weekend in Vegas, how with age you realize the network of people you WANT to be with & MORE. (12:53) The importance of having life insurance, like Health IQ, when you unexpectedly lose a loved one. (25:46) How Microsoft and Google played to America’s heartstrings with their Super Bowl commercials. Why technology is a powerful tool. (29:23) Beijing's "Anger Room" lets people smash away their stress. The significance of having an outlet to let out your negative energy. (33:30) For millennial's, cancers fueled by obesity are on the rise, study says. (37:17) Israeli scientists claim they're on the path to a cure for cancer. (40:25) #Quah question #1 – What are the pros and cons to exercising in a fasted state? (44:32) #Quah question #2 – Can you discuss Tom Brady’s TB12 Method? (53:27) #Quah question #3 - Would you recommend building clientele through one on one training or jumping straight to coaching online and selling programs? (1:05:42) #Quah question #4 - What is something each of you would be passionate enough about to start a business on if you were developing a side hustle project? (1:16:46) People Mentioned: Marc Weinstein (@warcmeinstein)  Instagram Jordan Peterson (@jordan.b.peterson)  Instagram Dominic D'Agostino (@DominicDAgosti2)  Twitter Products Mentioned: February Promotion: MAPS Performance is ½ off!! **Code “GREEN50” at checkout** NED  **15% off first purchase** Health IQ   **Free Quote** Sex Education | Netflix Official Site Bazaar Meat by José Andrés Las Vegas | Restaurants - sbe Episode 957: Fyre Festival- The Story Netflix did Not Tell with Marc Weinstein iGen: Why Today's Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us – Book by Jean M. Twenge PhD Irresistible: The Rise of Addictive Technology and the Business of Keeping Us Hooked - Book by Adam Alter All The Rage: Beijing's "Anger Room" Lets People Smash Away Their Stress Comment on the APA Guidelines for the Treatment of Boys and Men For millennials, cancers fueled by obesity are on rise, study says - CNN Emerging cancer trends among young adults in the USA: analysis of a population-based cancer registry Israeli Scientists Claim They're On The Path To A Cure For Cancer TB12: Homepage The TB12 Method: How to Achieve a Lifetime of Sustained Peak Performance – Book by Tom Brady MAPS Fitness Prime | Muscle Adaptation Programming System Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this post-birthday episode of The Mind Pump, you feel older, don't you? I know, I do feel it. Probably because we drank so much this weekend. All of us are a little tired. Look, for the first 37 minutes, we do our introductory conversation. That's where we talk about fun stuff and not too much fitness. After that, we get into the fitness stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:29 But to begin with, we start out by talking about the show on Netflix, sex education. We're all into that show right now. I think we've talked about that a few times. You gotta go check it out. It's hilarious. We give a little bit of a Vegas recap. We were all in Las Vegas this weekend celebrating my birthday.
Starting point is 00:00:45 Partying like animals. Yeah, it was a big one. 30. Wow, I finally turned 30. Crazy. Nice try. And we talked about using Ned Hemp Oil Extract to help with sleep.
Starting point is 00:00:58 It helped me and Vegas go to sleep after a night of parting. And I'm recommending it to Adam right now who's got the sniffles. Poor fella. Look if you go to helloned.com, H-E-L-L-L-O-N-E-D.com, 4-S-Mine Pump, you will get 15% off your first purchase of their full spectrum hemp oil products. Then I mentioned some statistics about widows to talk about our other sponsor, Health IQ that provides life insurance to fit in healthy people.
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Starting point is 00:01:46 to get rewarded for your fit and healthy lifestyle. If you go to healthicue.com, for slash mind pump, you can take the health IQ quiz and get yourself a free quote. Then we talked about Microsoft and Google's feel good, super bowl commercials. Are they trying to make themselves look good? Because-
Starting point is 00:02:04 Man, they're getting kicked out look good? Because- Man. Yeah, they're getting kids to talk to me. Yeah, let's see what happens. Justin brought up something interesting and Beijing to have anger rooms. I feel like someone can benefit from that in this room. We need those here in the States. Then we talked about the Cancer,
Starting point is 00:02:17 an obesity study that came out showing that there is a rise in obesity-related cancers among the younger generations. These are millennials. You guys need to get up and work out. Oh my gosh. And then I mentioned, this you might have been seeing this all over social media.
Starting point is 00:02:33 Apparently there's some scientists from Israel saying that they will have the cure for cancer within the next year. So we do our little speculation there. Bold statement. Then we get into the fitness questions. The first question was, what are the pros and cons to working out in a fasted state? So what are the benefits of working out after having a meal and what are the cons to it
Starting point is 00:02:53 and what are the benefits and cons to working out without having any food? The next question, someone's asking about Tom Brady's TB12 method. This is all over the internet now. And of course, he just won his, I don't know, what number Super Bowl that was. Six. Sixth Super Bowl. So anything he says is pretty much, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:12 it's in stone. Yeah, it's like talking about eating alcohol and I'm using foods and working on plus-of-bodies. Plenty of units. Just throw terms. A lot of other cool terms. We give our opinion on his TB12 method.
Starting point is 00:03:25 The next question, this person is a personal trainer and wants to run their own business. Should they train one-on-one clients for a period of time before going and doing online coaching? Do we think it's a good idea to put it in a different way? Our online coaches who've never worked with clients one-on-one, is it a good idea to work with them or they crap?
Starting point is 00:03:46 And the final question, what is something each of us are passionate enough about to start a business on the side? And we kind of get into talking about what those businesses would look like, how you can organize them so that you can still focus on your main job, and then we talk a little bit about passion in that part of the episode. Also, this month, maps performance, I love this program. This program trains you like an ancient athlete. What is an ancient athlete?
Starting point is 00:04:17 Well, if you picture a sculpture, a Greek or Roman sculpture, and you look at their bodies, what you see is proportion, aesthetic, but you also see function. You see developed muscles that are needed for movement. These were the ideals of gods. They were sculpting gods, what did they look like? Well, they based them off of their top warriors and athletes.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Well, that's what mass performance is designed to get you to look like and perform like Like an ancient athlete. It's a functional based program. The workouts are very different Yes, they are very hard a lot of people have a tough time getting through some of these workouts. They will kick your ass And there's a special emphasis on Mobility movements some of which you've probably never seen before Well, that program is 50% off all month long, half off all month long. You got to go to maps fitness products.com, use the code green50, GREN and 5.0, no space,
Starting point is 00:05:15 green50 for 50% off. And we also have other maps programs on there for different goals and different people. All of those can be found again at mapsfitnessproducts.com. T-shirt time! And it's T-shirt time. Oh, it's my favorite sound of the week. Adam's favorite. We have a number of winners here from iTunes and Facebook. So the iTunes winners are I squat for peanut butter.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Yeah, Jank Jake Kunk, Dominic Roman, GRG BDD. And on Facebook, we have Ashley Stati Southern, Ashley DeGite and Tommy Lebo. All of you are winners. And a name I just read to iTunes at mine pump media.com send your shirt size You're shipping address your Instagram handle and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Thanks guys. You're welcome So are watching that show the sex head show. Oh, you started watching it. Yeah, good right? Yeah, it's funny I didn't know like the first episode I was gonna see like shlong right away. Yeah It's like okay the mom's bad ass, right? She's funny. He's fuck. Yeah, that's a bunch of all these little boys
Starting point is 00:06:32 Yeah, such a she's gonna take advantage of she banks all these young guys She doesn't take advantage of them. She totally does. She's episode what? Maybe like six She should have already banged by three guys by now. Yeah, but not, but you say boys. You know, you're not, she's not being their friends. It's fun. They're like 30 small.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're younger than her, but they're man. Oh, I mean, you're 18, you're a man. Yeah, I guess, but she's, they're 20, 30 years younger than, she's the point is she's a psychologist. And she's taking advantage of weak men, even if they're 50, she's their 23 year younger. She's the point is she's a psychologist. She's taking advantage of weak men, even if they're 50, she's still taking advantage of their insecurities and she's working it so she can get sex.
Starting point is 00:07:12 It's a good show though. That's a great show. It's a great show. It's hilarious. What I like about it as how they, it's almost like an alternate universe because so many things happen in that show that would never fly in any other school or whatever. Yeah, you see somebody like banging somebody on campus like
Starting point is 00:07:30 I was laughing, but they I like the way that they show One of my favorite parts of the show is that the main character on there that kid his best friend is a gay is a is a gay dude But they don't make a big deal about it. Yeah, they're just friends. Yeah, whatever. And they're not trying to push anything or whatever the studies. And they're really good friends.
Starting point is 00:07:51 They're way like that, you know, about the show. They don't feel like they're trying to push you. Yeah, I like that. Do you feel like we still have stuff that's pushing the agenda like that? I think sometimes when you watch a movie or TV, you feel like they put it in there
Starting point is 00:08:03 just because they think they have to. Like they want to be politically correct so that you don't offer a business. Yeah feel like they put it in there just because they think they have to. They want to be politically correct so they do it on purpose. Yeah, or they make it a big deal. You know, like this is not a big deal in the show. His best friend is a gay dude and they're both guys. Nobody cares. Nobody says anything. It's more relatable. Where is it based out of again?
Starting point is 00:08:16 It's like it's somewhere in Europe, right? You're okay. Is it? Yeah. So are they more forward thinking with that than we are or were they behind? Do you know? It's a good question statistically speaking when they do studies on open-mindedness around
Starting point is 00:08:33 interracial relationships around relationships with gay people America tends to rank among the highest Although all the Western European nations are pretty pretty great. We still have the most diversity out of, I mean, is that the case? But, actually, we are. Yeah, countrywide, definitely. So, but, but, like I said, I like the way that they don't seem to push anything. It's just the part of the story. How far, how far are you guys? I'm only two in. Okay. I'm like six or seven. I can't, there's some, there's
Starting point is 00:09:04 some stuff coming up that it'll be interesting to tell you guys. I called something that Katrina was like, how did you see that? I'm like, I could just tell. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see. I don't want to ruin anything for you guys to get further along. Yeah, as I'm watching this series,
Starting point is 00:09:16 it blows me away about how new, like these new formats like Netflix and I say new, but for someone like me, it's new. How the reason why they're so fascinating is in the past, when you would watch a movie, they could only really develop a minimum amount of characters, right, you could only really, really develop like three or four characters.
Starting point is 00:09:41 You only have so much time. That's it. But with the series that are, where you're watching one series, one season is 10 episodes. Each episode is an hour long. So we're looking at about, are almost an hour long.
Starting point is 00:09:53 So it's nine to 10 hours worth of content in just one season. They have the ability to develop all the characters. And they have the ability to develop the character so much that they can be complex. In the sense that in the past, a character was either good or bad. Where with this kind of format, a character can be both. Like, they're all flawed. Like, you can see how you like them. You don't like them. You like them. You don't like them.
Starting point is 00:10:18 That's interesting that you point that out because I think that's what made like, um, Game of Thrones. So epic. Probably. That could have never been a movie. No, there's just way too much involved. What they did was exactly what Sal just pointed out, which I find it fascinating that you use that point when you haven't seen Game of Thrones yet, because that's what I think is what makes it so special
Starting point is 00:10:41 in comparison to almost any other show I've ever seen. It's rare. It's rare that you have a character that you go back and forth on how you feel about them. And Game of Thrones pulls you around like that with so many characters. I mean, they make you fall in love with somebody then they fucking die. Or you've what you love someone, then you hate them, then you love them, then you hate them, or you can't make your mind up because they have so many different. I mean, Sam, what to the point of the,
Starting point is 00:11:05 they had like novels can actually live in these types of formats. So I remember actually reading that they were gonna redo Lord of the Rings again. And it was like, I don't know if HBO or Netflix bought the rights to it, but because there's so much more, content wise that they could have produced. And they tried by making four movies. And they were epic.
Starting point is 00:11:28 And I thought that he did a good job with what he could do in his time frame. But it's like, so deep. Do you guys see series like that? For example, Lord of Rings in the future may not even go to movies, may end up being this big Netflix series over nine. Because that could easily stretch probably over like five seasons. If it's an epic novel like that,
Starting point is 00:11:49 it almost has to live more in that type of a format. Well, and for me, it's more than just looking at the specific show itself, like you're bringing up the show you were just talking about that. You know, it was so epic. Be I'm looking beyond that and witnessing how this format is changing the way we are able to communicate ideas and stuff to each other. Because remember, this drives culture, movies have driven culture for a long
Starting point is 00:12:17 time, TV has driven culture for a long time. But now you can get so much more complex with what you're trying to communicate. I think it's going to be very interesting. Like podcasting, for example, our ability to have a conversation, you know, over a topic for an hour and a half, whereas before you had a TV, you know, you had a talk show or whatever, and a topic would be covered for maybe 10 minutes. So I don't know, it's kind of interesting.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Look at that Amazon body. Wow, I was wrong. Yeah. It's confirmed too, huh? And exactly a five season five seasons. Yeah. Wow, that's interesting. You know, speaking of driving culture like that, you know, the commercials for Super Bowl, one of the or three of the commercials were around Game of Thrones. They were the Bud Light commercials, but light totally piggybacked off of that, which I think was brilliant, you know. Did you guys see some of the other commercials
Starting point is 00:13:09 that were on there? Well, the ones you showed us, I thought they were. Yeah, we were like in transition, trying to get a plane while everything was going on. So yeah, we just got caught up on the commercials. Oh, you didn't come earlier either? You can come on. No, we were on the same plane, but our plane got delayed
Starting point is 00:13:27 Yeah, we didn't get back to like the bathroom The plane was delayed because the bathroom was we had a lot of turbulence. How was you? Yeah, it was gnarly Yeah, I fell asleep. That was a hard work. It was just like freaking out. How you feeling there, buddy? I'm sick you're a dog man You had a fucking piss you had a hard on my birthday there, buddy Dog man. You ain't fucking pissed. You ain't hard on my birthday there, buddy. Oh man. Oh, dude.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I got video of you, by the way, and I haven't posted it. I don't think I'm going to post it, but I'm gonna save it. I got video of you getting down. Oh yeah. I don't really get down actually. You know who really got down on video, Doug. Doug was losing his shit a few times. I loved the dance floor. Doug was cutting a run. Yeah. Doug looked like he got down pretty
Starting point is 00:14:07 good. I really was disappointed with the music, dude. I was, yeah, T.S. Yeah. T.S. still was, I'm not a fan, man. I think that must have been the first time I heard him spin and I was excited for it. And when he came out, well, first I didn't like the opener because I was like, man, this guy is so choppy. I can't get into my rhythm. And, and then I'm like, I kept telling Katrina, I'm like, you know, he'll come out. He'll come out probably at midnight. And I don't think he came out to a one, right? Yeah. One o'clock. He comes out. And I'm pumped that he's coming out. And I'll hype. Yeah. All right. Here comes the main event. It's going to be great music here on out. And he stayed with almost the same rhythm as
Starting point is 00:14:43 the guy who didn't. It didn't change. It did change. I told that to Jessica, I'm like, I can't tell when the guy came out and we were before. I had no idea. The same thing. I mean, he'd have, he'd drop one that'd be great and he'd be going for about 90 seconds or so
Starting point is 00:14:55 and I'd just be starting to get into it and then I would, he'd switch and I'd be like, man. Yeah. And it was like a hard contrast. I was like, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, oh shit, what do we do now? Yeah. I was like trying to like, man, yeah. And it was having a good time because of the people, but I was having some realizations like, this is the last time I'm ever gonna go to a club.
Starting point is 00:15:30 You're so loud that I don't understand anymore. Why it's so loud. And I don't think it's because it got louder. I think it's because I got older. Probably. You know what I'm saying? It was so a couple of times I was looking at Justin like, I might have to go.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah, I was probably plugging my ears. Yeah, it was so fucking loud in there. But that's how loud they always am. Oh man, that's nice. No, it's always been my thing. Oh, my ears, dude, we went back to the room and I'll hear deep, all night, all night in bed. Yeah, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:15:57 Just trying to sleep all night. You know what helped those fun though? Thankfully, I had the Ned with me. The, the, the, the, you double that up or what? Yes, dude, because I'm laying there, I hear the bee. And I also thought to sleep when I drink. Yeah, I just, I'm in and out. So I just pounded a bunch of the, a bunch of the hemp oil.
Starting point is 00:16:14 And that helped quite a bit. Yeah, you should actually use that tonight because you're, you're not feeling so good. No, that's a good call. I mean, it's on my, I already did like our, you know, organifi stack and all of our other stuff this morning to start. That's like good call. I mean, it's on my edge. I already did like our, you know, organifized stack and all of our other stuff this morning to start. That's like the first thing I do.
Starting point is 00:16:28 If I start feeling this, like, I've taken the Musin X, I took the Sudafed. I've got the elderberry. Oh, you said it right. Yeah. And I've pounded my green juice and I'm drinking water like crazy. And then tonight, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:42 I'll probably take some Nike Will and the then net and that'll be like the night quilt, net knockout. Dude, how about the dinner the first night though? Best steak in my life. Tell me that wasn't the most. Bro, I am a steak snob too. And I've gone all over the place. And you talk about Ruth Chris, Alexander's,
Starting point is 00:17:03 Willard Hicks, the sellers, the Forbes mill, I've had them all, dude, and I'm telling you right now, that was the best fucking steak I've ever had in my life. Well, I'll go back just for that. But what was it called, bizarre? Bizarre, bizarre meats, SLS, which was a Brian Gay, who's in our forum, wanna give him a shout out. Hell yeah, oh dude.
Starting point is 00:17:22 They really took care of us. Much love. We go in there, first of all, the restaurant was gorgeous, but then they bring the food out, and it was like, we were sharing or whatever, and how about the, what was that in the beginning? It was a cotton candy.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Far grot. Fully grot. That was weird. That was a weird combination. The duck liver, I didn't understand it, but I ate it, and it worked. It was like raw, it was like tricking you, It was like, Rod, got tricking you. It was like, you candy, what?
Starting point is 00:17:48 Huh? Yeah, Rod. Rod, duck liver with cotton candy around it. That was definitely different. I mean, all of it was great and amazing, but I could have just ate the filet and the rib eyes with those mashed potatoes. I mean, I would have loved to just go orange.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Those are insanely good. And then the wine pairings between like every single quote was like six seven courses or something. It was just like, okay, here's a wine pairing with this one. And I told part of the reason why I gambled as much as I did was I told Katrina, I was like, I'm we're coming back here just for dinner. I'm like, that was that good of a stake that I'll fly out to
Starting point is 00:18:22 Vegas for like a night just with her. Yeah. And I'm like, and I told her, I was like, I'm just gonna, I'm gonna put a lot of time on the tables while we're here. So I get a comp to room. Did you, did you do well? Or did you lose?
Starting point is 00:18:33 No, I got cracked. Did you, did you? Yeah, I got cracked. You were hot the first night. Yeah, I had, I mean, I had my moments, like when I play Crapside, definitely how it's, it's all about riding the wave. And I think that if we, if I wasn't so tires that night, what?
Starting point is 00:18:47 I think we're just hanging loose. Oh, yeah. No, you have to be able to ride the wave. All you need is like one good roller in hour if you manage your money and you bet correctly. And so, you know, when you see me, sometimes you'll see like those little runs and I'm making good money and I'm raking back. But overall, it was like this kind of slow, losing money, losing money, losing money.
Starting point is 00:19:09 I get back and then I lose money. I think only one time was actually up like four or 500 bucks. I mean, I walked away the first day up a few hundred, I think it was up like three, four hundred dollars of first day and then the second day I was up maybe four or five hundred at one moment, but I mean, that was after hours and hours, if I could. I barely gambled, but I did come out $60 on top.
Starting point is 00:19:29 You wanna know how? So we were on our way to the airport. I probably had broke even. I'd only taken out a couple hundred bucks to gamble, because I'm not a gambler. And I broke even, so I'd say whatever. We get to the airport and I had a $5 bill in my wallet. And I know that the slot machines in the airport,
Starting point is 00:19:48 the tightest, those are the ones that they, they never win, right? Because they know it's your last chance. They're gonna stream. Why would they wanna give you money? At least that's what I've read, right? So I put a $5 bill in one of the machines and I'm like, let's see what happens.
Starting point is 00:19:58 And I just pushed it one, 60 bucks, one 60 bucks. Shut up. Yeah, so thank you, Vegas. So that was, my cousins loved you guys. Yeah, fucking law, they're great people, man. Yeah, yeah thank you, Vegas. That's it. That's it. My cousins loved you guys. Yeah. Fucking law. They're great people, man. Yeah, I had a great time with them.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Yeah, it was a really good fit. Really good group of guys. Yeah, really good. And gross. I mean, everybody was coupled up. And Courtney had a great time with them as well. She was telling me. I saw them.
Starting point is 00:20:21 They were hitting it off. That's cool. One of the best feelings in the world is when you get a bunch of people that are important to you together and that they don't all necessarily know each other and just to see them all, you know, gel. It's a very nice feeling to see that, you know. I think that's something that happens, like maybe as you get closer to adulthood, when you're younger, I don't think that happens as much.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I think it's really tough to bring different groups of people and mesh them all together. Maybe because you're different with each of them so different that they don't necessarily. I think it's really tough to bring different groups of people and mesh them all. Maybe you kind of filter them out. Maybe because you're different with each of them so different that they don't necessarily. Yeah, I think that's something. Yeah, I think too, as I've gotten older, you start to lead off a lot of people that are, maybe you have your friend who you love, like the difficult one. Yeah, you love certain things like sports or video games or Vegas-type trips or there's like aspects of your life that maybe are seasons that you went through
Starting point is 00:21:07 that you were really into something and that you like them like that but then maybe they're not necessarily the friends that you bring around your family. Yeah, you just know better to kind of invite certain people. Yeah. You know, if you have groups of people, like yeah, I know that right away I have friends and I'm like, okay, we're gonna hang out and do our thing like with the three of us only. Yeah, that's it. I think when you're younger, a lot of times what happens
Starting point is 00:21:27 is you've got your buddies who you party with, but you don't connect on anything else. Then you have people you connect with over here, over work, or whatever, but not them else. But I think you're right, Adam, as you get older, you're yourself around more people. You don't have to change so much, or be different, because you yourself around more people. You don't have to change so much or be different because you're around other people.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Well, we talked about this a long time ago on the podcast and it was probably one of the harder things that I had to do as I've aged because I did hang out with a lot of people. I had a lot of friends and a lot of different circles and groups and you do. You create bonds and attachments to certain things and I became more stressful as I got older
Starting point is 00:22:08 to have people in my network that took a lot of energy from me. Either they were needy because they wanted to do a lot of stuff or I had to give them a lot of attention to keep the friendship happy or they weren't just content with sometimes, hey, let's just chill and do nothing. You know, let's just chill and do nothing.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Or, you know, a lot of it was based off of competitiveness. And so there was this kind of, you know, always trying to be one up on each other or cutting down at one of the friends in the group. And so, you know, I had a lot of friends that I had built relationships with as a young man. And as I got older, you know, that felt like, fuck, do these guys are, fuck, these guys are,
Starting point is 00:22:45 some of these guys are sucking energy from me or aren't supportive of other people in a group. And I think it's, I think a lot of people get stuck in those relationships. They get stuck and then they allow that, this drama, you know, with friends. And I just, at one point in my life, I realized it like, you know, if you're a real friend of mine, you're gonna be, you're gonna be about my success and it be about me and all of us, like all of us being good, not about taking it, cutting each other down and not being, you're not supposed to be trying to suck any life out of this relationship. We should add to each other's lives.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Otherwise, it's just not worth it. And that was a really tough time for me to, to start to piece that together. But over time, you know, you start to realize that, and I think you can tell that we're older because you've done that. You've got your network of people that, like this is who I'd wanna be with for stuck for three or four days with all day all night,
Starting point is 00:23:36 and you could feel that when we were all together. They really love dogs. Yeah, that's good energy. They really like dogs. I kept getting taxed, like, dogs demand, we love dogs. Apparently, Doug was out energy. They really like dog. I kept getting tax back. Dogs demand. We love dogs. Apparently Doug was out. You're out to like 4 a.m.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Dogs that hit each time. I was. Yeah, I'm a trooper. Jessica and I were in bed by 1 2 a.m. at the latest each night. Doug was out till so they told us to go in the distance. He did.
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Starting point is 00:24:38 and we decided to pre-drink before dinner, which is like five o'clock we're drinking already. And I had, I think I had three crowned cogs before we went to dinner, and then dinner, which is like five o'clock we're drinking already. And I had, I think I had three crowned cogs before we went to dinner. And then dinner, he wine paired every, every, every serving, right? And it started with champagne. And then I think we had, I think I had four or five glasses
Starting point is 00:24:56 of wine before. Yeah. And then we went out to another place afterwards. Bro, you forget that we drank. We should be mixing it all. You forget that we drank in the limo to the hotel. Remember that? Remember that we stopped at the liquor store and we got those pre-mixed like jack-and-cokes
Starting point is 00:25:12 and Moscows. That's a bad call on your part. You're like a gallon. That's a bad call. That's a bad call. I knew better to me stop. I remember when I you said it, you're like, oh, it's those stuff at the liquor store right now.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I'm like, what? We just got here. I'm thinking, wait a second. We got to go hard tomorrow. I ain't got two back-to-back nights, but I'm a hard I go hard in the day as soon as it hits like then the sun goes down I start to go out I've done I don't know you tell like one a.m. First one to go to bed on your birthday Dude, yeah, isn't that a rule like you can't do that? I was supposed to bring up Health IQ to talk about, you know, because they're one of our sponsors. And I was thinking about what I should talk about
Starting point is 00:25:52 to the audience, because that's a hard, it's a hard thing to talk about oftentimes because we're talking about, you know, life insurance, right? You gotta get life insurance. So I thought, how can I communicate the importance of it? And so I looked up some statistics, I thought would be kind of fascinating. For the audience.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So this is interesting. A widow's total income, they can expect it to go down on average by 37%. That's what it ends up being in the long term. So a lot of times, I'll try and make more money to make up for it, but overall, it cuts down about 37%. And they can expect to take three months off of work after the death of a partner. Now, based on that statistic, wouldn't that mean that they're making 73% of the income
Starting point is 00:26:33 then? That's just what it averages out to. And I think what ends up happening is they end up having to make more or try to make up for it, but they're showing on average, it averages out to about 37% of a reduction in income. The cost of funeral and all that stuff is like $7000 to $10,000. So people take three months off of work, $710 grand to pay for all that stuff, plus a drop in income, the increase in poverty after a loved one has passed away, a partner has passed away, is astronomical.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So, no, it's tough, man. Like, I'd to kind of go on this sort of morbid path. Like, I was in the process of like, when my grandpa died, or not my grandpa, my grandma died, and I was there with my dad, and we were going through that whole process with the person at the corner, not the corner. Who is it that the funeral home, trying to kind of sell
Starting point is 00:27:28 like what, which coffin to get and all that kind of stuff and it was like, because there was no insurance involved, it was astronomical. And so my dad actually had the decision because he's a woodmaker to make it himself. And we had to go through all that whole process and it was insanely difficult. And I just don't wish that on anybody else did so.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Did he actually make the coffee? Yeah. Oh shit. No way. Because in the thing was like for me, I'm like, just burn me. Give me the ashes. Like let's make it easy for her by.
Starting point is 00:27:59 But when somebody has the specific wish to be buried, so he wanted to honor that. and so he did that for her. But yeah, it was, man, and I was a kid, so I was watching this whole process and how difficult that was. So it's like, you just wanna think about these things ahead of time. Yeah, go ahead, don't you?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Y'all just gonna say one of the things that these statistics don't really reveal, I don't think is you got a widow, and there's children involved, and now the main breadwinner, possibly, possibly the main breadwinner is no longer there Now the widow has the kids. What are you gonna do with the kids now? You don't have a partner anymore, so you have extra daycare expenses possibly now you have to go out and try to make up that gap In your
Starting point is 00:28:40 Go up huh. Yeah, you're your gap in income So now you're taking on a second job. You're, you know, if you're the person who left the person behind, you've left them in a real mess. Cause now they're working over time and that type of thing, just to stay on a float and the kids are suffering as well.
Starting point is 00:28:57 So, these are all the things. I don't think statistics actually reveal. No, and it's not expensive, especially if you're fit and healthy. When I went through and did mine, what was it for half a million dollars? It was like 50 something dollars or something like that? I'm 40 year old male, so even if you're younger and fit and healthy, it just, I think it's dumb not to, not to do it.
Starting point is 00:29:15 Jesus, you guys are playing on all the heartstrings this morning. It's like, this reminds me of the Super Bowl commercials that I watched with the Microsoft and the... Oh, that tore me up, dude. That made me want to cry. Well, that's probably why this is turning into that kind of energy. Well, you know, and what I was trying to show you guys
Starting point is 00:29:32 is I found it interesting because we just had this podcast episode with Mark Weinstein, and we were talking about fire, and we kind of wrapped it back into this whole tech thing and being, you know, like everybody's talking about how amazing it is, but then there's all these like, these side effects that no one's really talking about. And I find it fascinating that Microsoft and Google
Starting point is 00:29:54 both, big bohemus in the tech world, were smart and had these commercials that I think played on everybody's hard strings. I really did. And I thought, you know, we were right around this time, you know, these books like Igen, Irresistible, they're starting to come unplugged, they're starting to come out,
Starting point is 00:30:11 and more and more information is starting to surface on how these companies are building tech for it to be addictive and to get us kind of sucked into it and basically connected to it 24 or seven, and what a smart way to market on the biggest platform of the year, Super Bowl, and kind of show you like the amazing things that tech does. Show how it's been helping people with disabilities. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Like just looking at these kids and, you know, how happy and excited they are to play with their friends on their level. And they're like, oh, God, that got me. You, you, they're, it's just technology is just, in social media being part of it, they're powerful tools. And like any powerful tool, it's got lots of different potential uses.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Some of them are amazing, and some of them are terrible. Anytime humans have ever discovered or created any powerful tool, it's been that way. Look at nuclear power, right? It has the promise to provide us with endless energy, but also, we created nuclear bombs as a result. So, and I've always, I've compared tech
Starting point is 00:31:16 to our ability to process food, and what that did to us. There's a lot of good things that came from being able to process food too. Like we now have food that has a long shelf life. We can mass produce food, whereas before people starve to death now people have to watch out about eating too much. We can transport food much easier now.
Starting point is 00:31:34 There's a lot of good aspects of it too, but then there's the bad sides. That's all it is. In tech just represents that as well. With social media, look, I can be in contact with family members all over the world and see what's going on with their lives, way differently and way better than ever before. I can get news and information from around the world, totally decentralized, much faster, much easier
Starting point is 00:32:01 than ever before. It spurred on revolutions in the Middle East and in protests from people who normally were able to communicate with each other and see what's going on. So I think there's some really good things about it and they're just, they're being good with their advertising. They're just, they're not gonna show pictures of little kids and babies stuck to iPad and iPhone.
Starting point is 00:32:21 They're not gonna show that. No, they're gonna make everybody feel the weird thing. That's why they get brilliant. You can't watch those commercials and not like, to iPad and my phone. I'm not gonna show that. No, no, no, no. They're gonna make everybody feel the real good. That's why they get brilliant. You know what I'm saying? You can't watch those commercials and not like, oh man, Google's such a good guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:31 You know what I'm saying? They're helping disabled kids. Well, there's both. You gotta love them. You gotta be concerned, you know, that there are like, detriments to it. And I think that that's, you just forget that like, well, I mean, you see, it's so visible,
Starting point is 00:32:43 people walk around the street and they're just like glued to their phone. No, you are such a potential. You are not going to be able to stave off the negatives of social media and technology without practices put in place. You're not. It's just not going to fucking happen. It's like trying to say that you're, you're just going to grow up in America and your through sheer willpower,
Starting point is 00:33:05 you're gonna be able to maintain a lean fit and healthy body. It's not gonna happen because daily activity there is none. Daily life is very sedative. And food is everywhere and it tastes really good. So you have to kind of learn, you have to learn and then put in practices. Okay, I'll work out for an hour and a day.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Obstaining from things is the new thing. That's what everybody needs to learn, how to implement that in their daily lives. What's interesting to me, I was gonna bring this up with you guys, there's a place actually in Beijing, where they've created it to alleviate tension. And instead of like the whole cry closet thing
Starting point is 00:33:40 that we've talked about here with like schools that have had that as an option for people that get super stressed out and like, you know, feel bad. Like on the opposing end of that, like they've actually created a place where you could go fucking smash stuff and like let out your anger and like, what? Yeah, they take like old technology like old TVs, old computers, like just old stuff and you get a bat, you get like a shield, a face shield, you get like this whole jump suit and everything, and then you could stay in there as long as you want
Starting point is 00:34:10 and smash the shit out of whatever you want. And this is all, this is the government, put these together? I think it's an independent company, but control by the government. Yeah, and I think Beijing's a little, isn't that a little bit different than Hong Kong, I would say.
Starting point is 00:34:24 I was Hong Kong is okay So maybe maybe it has something involved. I have no idea how the government is going to go into an anger room because then they're like watching you And they never want to go well mark down Right, he's been pissed off three times this week They said they said some people have come in like this lady came in with her her wedding Album and everything and they just like smash the shit out of it. Oh wow. Yeah, like it got, but think about that though.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Think about being able to have an outlet for negative energy. You know, it's like people don't consider that. Like let's get rid of it. Let's sort of exercise it. Wow, he's showing the video right now of these, of these smash rooms. I'd wanna go in there just cause it's a lot of fun. I'd want to go I mean the sound of breaking glasses amazing. That's pretty that'd be fun. I
Starting point is 00:35:10 Ever tell you guys I got oh man my cousin and I when we were in fourth grade My uncle had a backyard that he he used to keep all these bottles in the back he just bottles everywhere because he recycled like couple of years. And we thought it would be funny to go back there. And we're fourth grade kids. Sorry, I'm so we're throwing rocks at all of it. And we shattered all kinds of glass.
Starting point is 00:35:37 He got, and he was, oh my God, for that one. He was storing them all for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, for, and you guys just crushed them. I mean, you don't think of that as a kid. He's like, oh, I'm close got all these glass bottles out here. Let's throw rocks at him.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Sounds like fun. Yeah. This reminds me of a article that Jordan Peterson just posted. He wrote this whole commentary on, they were talking about, he was talking about that, the, that was at the American Psychiatry Association. I think it's called, or Psychology Association, how they pointed out how masculinity,
Starting point is 00:36:08 traditional masculinity is bad for boys, and you did this that and the other, so he was countering it. And one of the things he was talking about was how, statistically speaking, boys who grow up without fathers are far more aggressive and violent, and anti-social or whatever, then boys you grow up with fathers
Starting point is 00:36:26 or with male role models. And the point that he made in the article, which I thought was brilliant, was that what boys get from their fathers or from a male role model, one of the important things that they get from them is learning how to integrate their anger into being a productive member of society.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So like males biologically may be born with a tendency towards more aggression. And but learning from a positive male role model, what you learn from them is how to integrate that. So that it doesn't come out in ways that are bad or whatever. Yeah, so I thought that was not malicious is actually being productive. Like, you know, using that as a competitive edge or you know
Starting point is 00:37:06 However, you're gonna channel that or just or just how to express it You know I mean without yeah properly without hurting people and being violent and all that stuff. Yeah, so I thought that was really interesting Speaking of kids Another article that I shared to you guys really this morning if you guys read about the cancer and obesity article that came out? No. So millennials, I'm gonna pull it up right now because I wanna make sure I get it right. There's certain cancers that are on the rise
Starting point is 00:37:35 and they are the obesity driven ones and they're finding them start to spike now in millennials. So there's quite a few cancers that are obesity related. And so I'm gonna find a few of them here. So they are like colon cancers, endometrial cancers, gallbladder cancers, kidney, pancreatic, and multiple myelomas and cancers of the bone marrow. And they're seeing a spike in those cancers in millennials,
Starting point is 00:38:06 which, you know, millennials are young, and they're a low risk for cancer, but now they're starting to see it spike, and it's because they're just eating shit. They're just out of shape. So this is a higher majority that are obese that they've found and they correlated to. Well, all those cancers are related to being obese.
Starting point is 00:38:23 So if you're really obese, then your odds of certain cancers goes up quite a bit. And that we're seeing a statistic or trend right now in millennials, where those particular cancers are growing, getting those cancers is starting to grow. So I was a little bit, um, I thought they were considered more healthy. So that's what I thought too. Yeah. And I don't know if it's maybe not, you know?
Starting point is 00:38:49 I think they're more aware. Yeah. Yeah, I think they're more aware about it. I don't think, I think, like they're being advertised two different. What I would like to see, because I've thrown the statistic about the average, you know, or the total steps that the average American takes in a day.
Starting point is 00:39:05 And a lot of that's based off of like the information that I was reading and getting back when I was a trainer. And I would think it's far worse now. I mean, now with, you know, Uber and DoorDash, your food and Uber Eats and electric scooters everywhere and then the, what are the fucking two-wheel things that everyone rides around now on?
Starting point is 00:39:24 Two of those, the little hover hoverboard. Yeah, I mean, it's it's gotten to the point that, you know, do we even walk anywhere anymore? And I can't imagine the and we do everything on these computers and phones now, I can't you don't ever see people outside playing or walking or riding normal bikes on the street. It's just really rare. It'd be interesting to see what the the movement looks like for the millennials now, too.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I would think that that has a lot to do with it. Obviously. Oh, I would bet, I would 100% bet that millennials move far less than previous generations. Just because you, just because like you're saying, Adam, the lifestyle, just your normal data of the life is so different than it used to be. But I mean, remember those cancers that I mentioned,
Starting point is 00:40:07 those are cancers that happen to people in their 60s and 70s typically. And they're seeing it spike now in millennials. So this thing is spike in people who are born in recent decades. And they're all these ones related to obesity. I mean, which actually brings me to another interesting article. Have you guys seen on social media, people posting that Israeli scientists are saying that they'll
Starting point is 00:40:29 be able to cure all the cancers? Did see that article you said to us. Yeah, I think it's within a year they said. Did you guys see that? Yeah. So the way they explained it, I've been doing a lot of reading on this. As you guys know, cancer to me is a, it's a, it's a big thing right? I lost somebody, cancer to me is a big thing. I lost somebody very close to me to cancer. So anytime something pops up in regards to cancer,
Starting point is 00:40:50 research really perks my interest. And these scientists are saying that the way that you are going to treat cancer is in a similar way to the way we treat HIV. So if you have HIV today, they give you what's called a cocktail of different types of drugs that work on the virus through different means. And this cocktail is what's been effective.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Now people with HIV today can now live pretty good lives versus 30, 40 years ago where it was pretty much a death sentence. What they're saying with their figuring out what their cancer and what they're going to let us know in a year is that they're putting together a cocktail of drugs that will be able to eradicate cancers, all cancers within a few weeks, like an antibiotic almost. Now, here's a thing. These same scientists are from a group that won a Nobel Peace Prize for some other discoveries
Starting point is 00:41:47 before, so everybody's real skeptical about what they're saying. Yeah, but it's so that you got to be honest. It's a bad issue. Well, let's see, because all these different cancers are also different. That's been the problem, is that they're all very, very different. So what may work for one, they're fine,
Starting point is 00:42:01 doesn't work for another one, or whatever. They're saying you'll be able to cure all of them. So I think that's gonna be interesting. I think they would make that claim if they haven't already had some test subjects with like full recovery. It's crazy, right? Yeah, I don't know, it's a little bit shrouded in history.
Starting point is 00:42:16 That's pretty bold to come out with that. And then of course you've got the conspiracy theorist who are like, you know, the scientists are all the time. They're all gonna be dead, you know? They're all gonna be killed because the pharma companies are gonna want them, you know, the scientists are all the time. They're all gonna be dead, you know? They're all gonna be killed because the farmer companies are gonna want them, you know, to come out with that cure. But, you know, it makes me wonder, like we were talking
Starting point is 00:42:32 about millennials and how their obesity rates or cancers related to obesity is going up in activity, all these different things. As medicine figures out to cure more and more of these chronic ailments, I think we're gonna realize more and more that it's not gonna be everything that we think it's gonna be. It's gonna be good,
Starting point is 00:42:52 but like if we could cure obesity with a pill, if we could cure diabetes with a pill, if we could get rid of cancer with the drugs, that's not gonna give you all of the benefits that you'll get from leading a healthy life. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're still going to be dependent on these substances to provide you with that, you know, the answer for that versus like having ownership of the process of it getting there.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Well, think about if you have an obese, we've all worked with clients like this, like really, really obese people. And, you know, if you could snap your fingers and then boom, they were lean, would they yield all the benefits that would have come from getting there through the process of, you know, why they're treating food a particular way, why they're not taking care of themselves, that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So when I heard this thing about the Israeli scientists, I was like, fuck yes, that's so awesome. But then also, I wonder how people, if we get to a future where you don't have to worry about a lot of these diseases, what will people do? How will they live? It'll be a different psychological state of mind. Yeah, like, oh cool, I'm gonna smoke.
Starting point is 00:43:55 I gotta think for that. Yeah, I'm just gonna smoke now all the time. As if cancer was the only bad thing that came from smoking. It's gonna be a new problem. Yeah. This cause brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition,
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Starting point is 00:44:37 I like the way his question was asked, because sometimes the question, usually the questions are, should I work out in a fastest state? And there's a lot of individual variants here. I'll speak from personal experience with the pros and cons. So what I've experienced personally, and we can talk a little bit about what's the best.
Starting point is 00:44:56 Which is a smart way to do it, since everybody does probably have a lot of the different. I think we all have a different experience with it. So when I work out fed where I've had, and when I say fed, I don't mean right before my workout, I don't think that's a good idea for most people to eat and then work out immediately afterwards. So I'm talking about when I'll eat like an hour or two or three before. The benefits are I feel a better pump in my workout. I can go longer in my workouts because I feel like I have more stamina, more endurance.
Starting point is 00:45:27 The drawbacks, I might not have the same kind of stimulated energy. So I may go into the workout feeling kind of little less motivation, not as hyped. When I go into workout fast, I feel light, and I feel stimulated, and I feel like I could go real hard. I just can't go as long. So I know if I'm gonna do like an hour and a half workout, I probably want to eat something before I end. If I work out,
Starting point is 00:45:56 if it's gonna be a 45 minute hard workout heavy lifts, that kind of stuff, and I want to be amped, then I'll go into it fasted. The other thing too to consider is, oftentimes I work out early in the morning. So if it's 6 a.m. in the morning, I won't eat anything. And I know it's technically fasted, but I ate dinner the night before, at let's say seven or 8 p.m. And then I went to, I didn't do much.
Starting point is 00:46:18 So your body still stores a lot of the energy. So it's not as if I fasted all day, was active all day, and then worked out. Yeah. I think that's another thing to kind of consider. I think it depends to, you know, for me, especially with fasting, like, I could, I could totally agree with a lot of your points
Starting point is 00:46:36 in terms of like feeling like I'm more mentally sharp and I have like more of a focused energy. Uh, when I'm fasted, but if it's, if I'm like a few days fasted, it's more like, I'm not prone to lifting heavy. So for me, I know just like, I'm not going to be able to exert myself to the level that I could if I had some energy stores there to pull from.
Starting point is 00:47:02 But I definitely, I really enjoy days where I'm doing more of like, you know, like just a few wraps and I'm just focused on central nervous system style training versus like high-paragraphy or doing some kind of like endurance-based workout. I definitely need to, you know, eat a few hours ahead of time. I just, I perform better and it does make a substantial difference. But there's times where I definitely, I, I will fast and I will have PRs just because like all of my focus can be in one direction and it works very well. That's, that's, it's exactly, it's a great way of putting it. It's like focus energy. Like if I'm fasted, I feel like stimulated. Stimulated differently.
Starting point is 00:47:48 It's a different kind of energy. I know Dom Diago Stino did a long fast and then went and deadlifted 500 pounds. I'm like, 10 times or whatever. I've actually hit a couple of PRs in a fastest state as well. Hormoneally speaking, working out fasted, if you're a healthy individual, you're going
Starting point is 00:48:08 to have higher cortisol and higher growth hormone. So technically, you know, from a hormonal standpoint, could be more body fat burning, but technically may not be as good for building muscle. I say technically because I think with split hairs a lot of times, I don't recommend fasted workouts to people who are dealing with a lot of stress. You know, like if I have a client that I'm working with who's not sleeping well and working really, really hard all the time
Starting point is 00:48:37 and has a stressful life and maybe they're pushing their body to the edge with their workouts. And I wanna make sure that they don't get sick. I wanna make sure that they maintain their health. Or if they have hormonal imbalances, I'm not gonna have a workout fasted because it's just a cortisol bomb.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And it feels good. You know, you get a lot of these people addicted to that cortisol feeling who are always in that state of high cortisol, who feel like they need more and more of it. So these are people who drink lots of caffeine, people who tend to be late to appointments because they get that cortisol spike,
Starting point is 00:49:07 people who seem to always be in high stress situations. What they'll do is they'll go and they'll work out fast that and they'll drink coffee or steak stimulants because they like that cortisol feeling. You keep doing that long enough and you'll start to crash. And so those people, what I typically will tell these people is I don't want you to fast, I actually want you to eat at least every four hours or so. And I I don't want you to fast, I actually want you to eat, at least every four hours or so,
Starting point is 00:49:27 and I definitely don't want you to work out fasted. And at first, it kind of sucks for them. They'll tell me that they don't have as much energy or whatever, but it's the only way to do it. Otherwise, like I said, they'll kick the can down the road and end up in a bad situation. I'm not a fan of training fasted. I don't, in fact, and yet I'm pro fastings,
Starting point is 00:49:44 I think for the health benefits, I think it's a great practice for everybody. I think that, and also too, with the convenience of food, I mean, we've talked about that. I think one of the best benefits that you get with fasting is just the relationship with food, realizing like, oh, I don't need to eat all the time and realizing that, you know, this breakfast, lunch,
Starting point is 00:50:04 and dinner thing is a made up thing and learning to really get in touch with your body signals of hunger versus craving. So, I like fasting for those purposes. So when I fast right now, it's typically once or twice a month and I schedule it on non-workout days. And if I'm going to be working out that day, you know, to like Justin's point, it's definitely not a day that I'm getting after it because agreeing with
Starting point is 00:50:30 both of you, I can tell my, my energy isn't there, my strength isn't there, my stamina isn't there. I don't like it. I'm not, I'm not a fan of it for those reasons. Now, I do think there are lots of cons if you're trying to build. If you're somebody who's right in the middle of a bulk and you're trying to build muscle, I think it can be a terrible strategy to be trying to fast during that time. I do like using it when I'm cutting though, because what I've noticed is if I go into, let's say a workout like around noon and I, let's say I skip breakfast and I'm kind of feeling hungry a little bit but I know that I'm challenging myself to stay fasted.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I notice when I go train it kind of suppresses that appetite craving hunger feeling and then I can stretch the fast out longer. So I love to incorporate it when I'm in the middle of like a cut for like a show or I've been leaning out for a few weeks. I will incorporate fasting more when I'm training than when I'm actually bulking or in just normal health training. That brings up a good point too, is when I'm talking to a client and they're asking me about fasting and they've never fasted before,
Starting point is 00:51:37 I don't think the first step is to fast and work out fasted. I think that's a step above just fasting. Do you know what I'm saying? Like if I'm that's a step above just fasting. Do you know what I'm saying? Like if I'm working with a client and they're asking me, hey, Sal, I've read about intermittent fasting or I think I wanna do a fast, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:51:53 And otherwise the nutrition's good and I think it's a good, okay, this might be a good time for you to try it. I won't recommend that they work out fast it. I'll say, yeah, let's try fasting, but let's do it without a workout. We're gonna do it during a time when you're on the weekend, you're lounging around whatever.
Starting point is 00:52:08 I think the next level would be to work out while fast it. When I do prolonged fast, I don't work out. I just don't. I don't think that's there's too much benefit from it. My fasted workouts today are just like I said in eat breakfast. Like I'm not talking about a 24 or, you 24 or a 48 hour good point, you know, type of fast. But again, you gotta be kind of balanced and be healthy and feel good because you can get a stress response from fasting.
Starting point is 00:52:37 If you're already teetering on that edge of too much stress, fasting may push you over that, and women tend to be a little bit more sensitive to it than men, so it's, and again, like you'll find, you'll tend to find that these, you'll get two types of really stressed out people, either the ones that overeat or the ones that under eat, and so you kinda gotta look at each one individually.
Starting point is 00:53:00 So look, if you have normal workouts, like regular 60-minute weight training workouts with a little bit of cardio, is the difference between fasting and not fasted going to make a huge difference in your results? Probably not. You know, this is where we answer the question in a way that I think gets people's nerves, but it's, again, you have to find what works best for you. And from person to person, it's going to be a little bit different. Next question is from Sonali Lifts. Can you just guess Tom Brady's TB 12 method, especially his recommendations to eat alkylizing
Starting point is 00:53:35 foods and to do muscle pliability work to lengthen and soften the muscles? Do you guys know who, it's not his, he didn't invent this, right? It's his trainer or someone that he's working on He's a core plan. Yeah, of course not. They're using his name to market I mean, I'm sure he has a fucking nothing to do with the programming It's just smart marketing for sure. Yeah, so I mean we looked at the website and went through all the they don't give you a ton of Information your little sound bites here and there. Yeah, so muscle playability is an interesting term.
Starting point is 00:54:08 And really what they're referring to is, you know, if you have a muscle that's relaxed and you push into it, does it feel pliable or does it feel tight? Yeah. And working on playability can definitely improve performance, but not because you necessarily perform better, more so because tight muscles that are tight in that particular sense may cause movement pattern issues. So like when I used to train clients, many times they come in and a lot of them would have forward children, sort of a common one, where the shoulders come forward
Starting point is 00:54:45 because they work on the computer and they don't have strong mid-backs. And so what I would do is I would work on getting them to be able to strengthen the action of bringing the shoulders back and also bringing them down to offset that kind of forward shoulder. But on top of the fact that those muscles were weak, their upper trap muscles, which are the muscles
Starting point is 00:55:09 that connect the shoulders to your neck, right? Those are the big muscles, you know, football players and stuff, but those upper trap muscles were tight, and they were tight because their shoulder girdle, the structure of their shoulders was trying to be stabilized by the next available muscle, because those other muscles were weak in the mid-back. And so what I would have to do is in between sets,
Starting point is 00:55:28 sometimes, I would push on their traps with my thumbs like a deep tissue massage wood. And what that does is it sends a signal to the central nervous system telling that muscle to relax. So if you ever have a muscle knot and you go to the massage therapist and they push on it and you feel the knot dissipate and you feel like, oh my God, I feel so much looser. That's kind of what's happening. So I would do that in order to get those traps out of the way so that they weaken strength in the other muscles. But the working on
Starting point is 00:55:56 pliability alone wouldn't do a whole lot because... Well, most certainly wouldn't lengthen and soften a muscle. No, no, no, no, no, that's what they say with information. Yeah, I think this is a branding tactic. They're all turrets, yeah. Well, it'll soften it in a different, so when we think soften, we think you're actually changing,
Starting point is 00:56:17 like if I took rubber and I heated it up rubber and it gets squishier, and if I put it in a fridge in the freezer, it gets harder. That's not really how what we're talking about with the muscles. The temperature of the muscles is the same. It's not softer because it's changed in the sense that it's a softer material. It may be softer feeling because it's not partially tensed, I guess, would be a better way to describe it. It's not flexed.
Starting point is 00:56:42 Yeah, it's not partially flexed. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Because to me, this really kind of speaks more into like overly specializing. So I'm just focusing on movement for the most part. Like I just want to make that process more fluid. And I'm just going to 90% of this program is bands. And so it's like, you know, we're not really trying
Starting point is 00:57:01 to build muscle, you know, that's not like the highest of focus. We're trying to like get restorative and it's all about water and it's about, you know, just like these nice fluid pumping type movements and then foam rolling. And so I think it's, I mean, as far as an emphasis on like recovery mobility type practices, there's a bit of that in here, but I don't see
Starting point is 00:57:23 a whole lot more than that. It looks like a shittier version of our prime. Yeah. That's what it looks like to me. I mean, it's something that you just pointed out, just 90% of it is band work, so already we're not going to build a ton of muscle off of this program. It's obviously tailored to a group of people that are going to want to be active, care about muscle pliability that are probably aches and pains, just need to move better, feel
Starting point is 00:57:49 better. I think it's a smart marketing tactic, but I don't think it's, you know, it'd be hard to say how customized this will be. That's what the thing that I thought was so brilliant about Prime was the Compass Peace 2 Prime was, you know, we built in an assessment in there for people to test themselves and to figure out, where do they have these imbalances? Where should they be doing these specific priming movements to address some of these issues
Starting point is 00:58:15 versus just someone blanket a generic program? That's just a bunch of... It's interesting because like to me immediately, you know how we always talk about somebody who's reached the pinnacle of success personally, across the board whether your body builder, your high level athlete, obviously Tom Brady's the best of all time, and what's been working for him the most
Starting point is 00:58:37 has been yoga, eating more lower inflammatory foods and recovery has been a big focus of his. And so you see that is like all the emphasis in this program is like, but for your average person, it's like, okay, I still need to like build muscle. I need to like right. And again, that's another great point because you're this is great. And then maybe he does follow something like this, you know's not like, sometimes they use like somebody like Tom Brady, they write a program that has nothing to do with what he probably does, like nothing at all. But I, you know, looking at what they have put out here,
Starting point is 00:59:14 I could see that this is something that Tom Brady's doing right now. You're 41 or 42 years old. You've been playing in the NFL. It isn't about, he doesn't need to build a bunch more muscle. He doesn't need to get faster than what he is. This guy just needs to stay healthy. Yeah. And so, if you're somebody who's like that,
Starting point is 00:59:30 I could see how you could easily use this program to market to those people, but even then, is it a superior program? I don't think so. I think if you're the same person that I think that this appeals to, I think prime would be a much better option for that person and much more customizer individualized for them.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Well, the two problems I saw with this, and I didn't dive into the program, we were just on the website going through the whole site and seeing how they're marketing it, and what things that they offer. One problem is with their dietary recommendation, which is to go vegan. There isn't anything that is inherently better
Starting point is 01:00:04 about vegan than an omnivore diet. It depends what makes up the vegan diet and it depends what makes up the omnivore diet and then the individual and context also depend a lot as well. You can either be very healthy diet that reduces all your inflammatory markers, keeps your body fat low, keeps your hormones balanced and gives you longevity and have meat in that diet. So that part right there, I was like, okay, that I don't agree with. Some people do great on vegans, some people, most people don't.
Starting point is 01:00:34 Okay, that's just a fact. As far as the other aspect that I didn't like, it seems like there's a huge reliance on foam rolling and foam rolling type activities, where you have the ball that you roll on or the tube that you roll on. Now, foam rolling has got some benefit, it's got some utility. And I remember when it first came out and it became a big thing with personal trainers, we thought it was the answer to aches and pains, we thought it was literally the answer. But we quickly discovered that it wasn't. It's just the bandaid. It's a tool, but it can be used as just the bandaid.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Now I know why they're focusing so heavily on the foam roller devices. Well, number one, they can sell them. So now they have a product that they can sell. Like if I'm saying supplements, yeah, like priming requires no equipment. You know, we teach priming because priming is actually correcting the issues that are making your IT band tight. It's correcting the issues that are making your piriformis tight, your hips tight. It's correcting the issues that are making your joints ache and makes it hard for you to get into good movement
Starting point is 01:01:38 patterns when you work out. But priming requires no equipment. Priming is using your body, activating muscles. It's a lot of it's intrinsic. Fome rolling requires tools. And so they're putting a lot of emphasis on those tools because they can sell those tools. And the other reason why I think they're putting
Starting point is 01:01:53 an emphasis on it is foam rolling is going mainstream. It's about time now, right? It's how it works with fitness. At some point, things that have some validity take a while to penetrate fitness. And then it kind of starts to go mainstream. And so I think you're gonna start seeing, and now is it gonna go mainstream
Starting point is 01:02:08 and are people gonna love it? I think so because the first time you ever foam roll, it feels amazing. Oh yeah. That's what's smart. Yeah, oh my back doesn't hurt anymore because I foam roll. Well good job, but now you have to foam roll every day.
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah. You know, why don't we correct the issue that's causing that pain to begin with? Now to be fair, if you exercise to correct pain, you have to exercise all the time as well. However, if I'll make this argument right here, if you foam roll and foam rolling takes away the pain and that's all you ever do, eventually that'll stop working too. Eventually that band-aid isn't gonna be enough to get rid of those issues. And this program looks like,
Starting point is 01:02:47 cause they talk a lot about liability, liability, liability. I think people are gonna love it initially because it feels great, but it's incomplete, I guess, to say the least. That being said, I am rocking the Tom Brady Jersey. Yeah, as you say. I don't watch Super Bowl, how did it come out?
Starting point is 01:03:03 I'm supportive over there. How was it? I mean, it was, it was, it was the least watch Super Bowl in 10 years. A lot of people said it was incredibly boring. I on the other hand, enjoy a coaching chess match. And that's what it was to mean, it was, it was Bill Bellach. I mean, the Rams with the number one offense coming into that game, you know, averaging like over 30 points a game to hold them all the way to three points. Just talk about the brilliance of scheming. Yeah. I thought that was just, so I like those things. It's like when you're, when you're someone into Jetsu and you're watching MMA, you will appreciate the laying on the ground stuff,
Starting point is 01:03:42 different than people that just want to watch a fight. Yeah. And people, a lot of people think it was a boring super than people that just want to watch a fight. And people, a lot of people think it was a boring super ball because you just want to see fireworks and scoring. That's why the NFL's gone that way. It was the least watched in 10 years. Yeah. Well, that's all the politics that's been happening in NFL.
Starting point is 01:03:55 For sure that's been happening. It's been, I'm sure it's a buff, right? So, what do you think the NFL's gonna do? You think they're gonna try and now that they've seen the hit, the money hit, are they gonna start to clamp down, you think? No, no, no, no, I don't think they anything, I mean, I think it just because it panned out that way. I think it was, you know, the, I think the NFL wanted,
Starting point is 01:04:11 we'll come back strong next year. The NFL wanted the Patriots versus the Saints. The two oldest quarterbacks in the game, playing, it would have been history being made. I think we would have seen more of a shootout. I think that Breeze is a better quarterback. Well, those controversy with the halftime show too, with Maroon 5.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Did you guys read about that? All these artists were pressuring them to not perform because of what happened in the past with Kaepernick. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, and so they were getting shit because they performed because a lot of acts turned the NFL down So we're not gonna perform and in maroon five was looking for people to perform with them and was having a tough time Nobody and yeah, okay
Starting point is 01:04:52 I don't I don't know man. I think I think the I think the politics hurt them You know more than people realize I didn't know that I didn't know that at all Yeah, cuz they always bring in other acts to kind of cuz it's it's a big show It's not like a concert you throw. It's like you want to throw an experience out there. And so you always see people bring on somebody else to kind of like guest appear or whatever. And you didn't see any of that, I guess.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Well, they consider it the biggest concert of the year, always. Yeah. Yeah, because you think about, well, yeah, just think about how would people, how would people learn the stadium and how many eyes are on it? It's by far the biggest concert of the year that anybody throws. So, well, I didn't know that. Yeah, we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Remember what happened with baseball when we had tainted for a while and then you had the, you know, Mark McWire and all those guys coming. Yeah, that killed it for me. Yeah, I stopped watching for quite a while. But they brought it back with that. So we'll see if the NFL can do that.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Next question is from Amelia Rosland. As a new personal trainer wanting to run my own business, would you recommend building clientele through one-on-one training or jumping straight to selling online programs that anyone can purchase? I feel it's important to train in person, but also feel I can reach a wider audience through online programs.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Train one-to-one first. Yeah, that's my biggest. It's not even, it's not even, I can't even, it's not even a question. Yeah. If you're gonna be, how would you, there's so many things, how are you gonna know?
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah. How can you like, like construct parameters for people if you haven't done it first? I think online coaching, good online coaching, is far more challenging than coaching one on one. I don't, and it's hard because there wasn't online coaching like this when we first started. So I got to have all the experience first and then have the learning curve of online coaching. But I know for sure what has made what made me successful on as an online coach
Starting point is 01:06:44 But I know for sure what made me successful on as an online coach Was the ability to troubleshoot without seeing the person like and I would not have been able to do that Had I not had 15 years prior to that of experience of seeing so many cases and hearing like they're texting me something And I'm like that's not the first time I've been told this right? I know that oh you're feeling this ache or pain when you do this? Oh, check this, check this, check that. Could be one of these three thing, think it back to me, right? Or, oh, when I'm eating these foods, X, Y, and Z Adam, I'm feeling this way. Okay, well, let's eliminate this, this, and this, because this could be what's going on.
Starting point is 01:07:17 I mean, and those are all things, and I'm not seeing this person. So that is way harder. I mean, if I'm squatting with you and you're like, oh Adam, my right knee is hurting. And I'm like, well, yeah, no shit. I can see what they're doing. And I can totally correct it right there because I'm, but you know, tried coaching online and having to communicate, you know, oh, what did you do yesterday and your workout? What did you feel? What did you notice? Would you, whatever. And then a client who doesn't understand anatomy or biomechanics is trying to explain to you what they felt. I mean, that's challenging to do in person, you know, when they're trying to explain to you what's
Starting point is 01:07:53 feeling because most people can't communicate that well. So it took all the years of experience for me to be a good online coach because I had to lean on that. I had to lean on my experience and go, oh, you know, maybe they're dealing with this, maybe they're dealing with that. Okay, and then communicate that. If you don't have that, I can't imagine what it's like coaching online. Then I just feel like you would do what a lot of these people do,
Starting point is 01:08:18 which is generic program, generic copy, whatever, and just throw it out there. Yeah. One of the things that makes you effective as a personal trainer is peeling back layers. The more connected you can get with your client, the more honest that they are with you, the more you can observe, which allows you to train them better. All those things allow you to become a better trainer.
Starting point is 01:08:41 What ends up happening with an online client is you're just adding a trillion more layers. So now, now I don't see you in person, now I don't spend an hour with you conversing while we work out. That's a big part too. You know, when you're doing it online coaching, it's, first of all, let's put, let me put it this way. Having a conversation, an hour conversation in person versus a hour conversation over the phone, that can even be different. Because you don't have that, you're not looking at the person in the eye, lots of communication is done non-verbally,
Starting point is 01:09:12 a large percentage of conversation is done non-verbally. You're not able to pick up on any of that through the phone. And online coaching doesn't even involve lots of phone calls. Most online coaches operate mainly through tech. So it's not even like you know. Yeah, so when you're trying to client in person, I see you, I'm working out with you, I see how your body moves.
Starting point is 01:09:31 We're also talking about fitness and health and your fitness and health and your process, that entire hour. And if I see you two or three days a week, that's two or three hours a week of work I get to do with a client. And then if you multiply that at times years, now I've done that with 100 clients or hundreds of clients,
Starting point is 01:09:50 or maybe even thousands through proxy, right? Through having other trainers work clients and meet with them and all that stuff, like we would do when we would manage gyms. So you get to kind of learn people that way and know which directions to go, which you need a lot of when you go online. When you're online, you're not able to peer as deep,
Starting point is 01:10:09 you're not able to watch what they're doing. You have to have that wisdom going into online coaching. Otherwise, what it ends up turning into, which is what I've seen a lot of, is, here's your cookie cutter stuff. Here's your cookie cutter stuff. And you're just gonna just cut your calories. Yeah, and if you have a question more.
Starting point is 01:10:27 And if you have a question, you know, you can ask me a question type of deal, which it kind of turns into anyway. Online coaching is fucking hard. I had them hit it right on the head. It's hard, not physically difficult, not time-intensively difficult, but just difficult to be able to deliver quality to somebody.
Starting point is 01:10:47 So that's actually, this is a good question to ask an online coach, in fact. If you're trying to find a good online coach, you might want to ask them, do they train people in person, and if they do or if they have, how long did they do that for? Because if someone says to you like, no, I just got my certification,
Starting point is 01:11:04 I just went straight to online, or oh no, I'm a competitive competitive, you know, be any competitor whatever and I just do online Probably not a person you want to work with. Well, I also think it's it's turning into a race to the bottom to where You know online coaching is becoming so prevalent that everybody is starting to do it if you're a trainer Even if you don't have that much experience and then it's just a price war who's willing to, who can create the best, you know, automated systems online and organization piece to handle as many clients so you can drop the prices as well as you can. And that just wasn't my model when I was doing it. I, I increased my price after every time I, once I filled my schedule up and I couldn't
Starting point is 01:11:41 take any more clients, every client that I onboarded after that, I raised it $50. I just kept doing that, kept doing that until I was charging $500 a month for online coaching, which is significantly higher than anybody else that I knew that was doing that. That was because I knew it was providing a really good service. I knew that I was really helping these people. I still put a lot of weight on them. They had to check in with me every single day. So they had, you know, weight in the evening,
Starting point is 01:12:07 weight in the morning time. They're screenshots from their fat secret app and then weekly pictures of a front side and back view for me. And then I would go from there and I would adjust their nutrition and I adjust their workouts. And then they had the ability to text me 24, seven
Starting point is 01:12:25 and a time they wanted to on my phone. So that's a lot of talking, but it required that because I've never trained anybody that doesn't have questions. I think if I was training client in person every hour that I saw them, most of the hour was filled with them asking me either nutrition questions or asking me workout questions
Starting point is 01:12:41 or complaining about aches and pains. Or so I gave them that ability to still be able to communicate with me and answer that stuff. Yeah, it just reminds me of, you know, whatever is hot right now are ways to make money. And I get it too as a trainer, like you're always like paying attention to the revenue streams that people kind of find themselves into. Like, you know, boot camps, group classes. There's a lot of opportunities out there to increase income and get yourself more clients
Starting point is 01:13:12 in exposure, but we always wanna just jump ahead. And there's a process to that. And we could argue all day whether or not which method is valid or not, but the core of personal training is the one-to-one interaction and you learn best when you're focused on that person and then that will reveal somebody else will have a completely different set of variables that are going to present to you.
Starting point is 01:13:43 So it's like being able to problem solve and get really good at that is essential. Yeah, think about this way. If you were to see a doctor virtually, would you want a doctor that is inexperienced or one that has a lot of experience working with people because you're not in front of them? If you want someone to diagnose your car
Starting point is 01:14:02 because would you want someone who's worked on lots of cars in person, or has ever only worked virtually? This is a good question that people are gonna be asking about a lot of jobs. Yeah, no, I'm glad we took this question. I think Taylor sent it over because you must have got it in like a DM.
Starting point is 01:14:18 I saw a friend of mine this morning who, she's really fit, great shape, competed, got herself in an incredible shape, has got a decently sized Instagram following, and is now decided that she's going to start coaching and training people virtually, and is joined an app of where there's a bunch of other trainers that do this. And so, you know, these, and there's smart companies right now that are jumping on board of this, they see the opportunity in this space, and they're smart companies right now that are jumping on board of this. They see the opportunity in this space, and they're creating these cool ass apps
Starting point is 01:14:49 where they feature all these trainers. I know a couple of these girls that do this, and I know they really, either one of trained zero people in real life, they've only worked out themselves, or two, they've trained a handful of people, and their entire business is gonna be built off of their image that they built, their look, and now they're gonna be giving advices to,
Starting point is 01:15:11 who knows how many people out there. If you're a consumer, buyer beware, just because somebody looks awesome or has a cool Instagram and they're promoting themselves on some looks like a legitimate app as a trainer. Doesn't this mean they're going to be a great trainer? They're going to be able to help you get to your goals because in my experience, it was rare that I got somebody
Starting point is 01:15:33 that I could take the Apex meal plan that got printed off the computer, handed over to that person, write some generic workout, and that person gets great results, has no problems, follows a meal plan. I mean, they're one in 10. The rest of them, there's issues. Their metabolism's fucked up. They've got all these muscle imbalances.
Starting point is 01:15:53 They've got all these aches and pains. They have a bunch of psychological issues going on. You've got all this shit that you gotta deal with as a trainer and the experience of the one on one, that's where you get all that. And still to this day, I don't have the answers. But I've referenced and I've looked at so many different articles and read so much that it's like, okay, I know if this person might be dealing with these things, they should read
Starting point is 01:16:16 this, this, and this. And that is now help me when I'm online coaching. I can take all of that, that past experience that I can pull on to help troubleshoot these seasons. It's like I'm training blindfolded. Can imagine walking into the gym and someone say, all right Adam, you get your next client, oh by the way, we're gonna blindfold you.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Good luck, go have a good session. And then I'd have to train that client for an hour. Like imagine how hard that would be. I could do it, you know, I could get by maybe, but it would be really tough to do. That's what online training is. You're training blindfolded. Next question is from free willy fitness.
Starting point is 01:16:48 What is something each of you are passionate enough about to start a business on if you were developing a side hustle project? Hmm. I think this is kind of a cool question because we've all done this. None of us are doing it now because mind pump has completely consumed all of our time. But is that how he worded it? I thought it was worded a little bit different than that. Did you type that up exactly how it was worded?
Starting point is 01:17:14 I thought he was asking how passionate we needed to be about something in order to start a side business. Like from where we are now. Right. And I thought that was a really good question, because there's things that I've started up that I wasn't passionate about. And I know we talk a lot about passion, and mind pump we are, there's a lot of conviction that is brought to this business from all of us.
Starting point is 01:17:37 And I think that's important if it's something you're going to do a long time, full time. But if you have a side hustle, I've always had a side hustle, except for now that we're in mind, other than that, every job I've ever had, I've always had one or two little side hustles that I've doing, and I don't need to be passionate about it. I wasn't passionate about car detailing, I wasn't passionate about marijuana, I wasn't passionate about vending machines, I wasn't passionate about those things at all, but I saw an opportunity, and I felt that I was smart enough and capable enough to do it on the side And so I feel like if you feel that way about something you're smart enough you're capable you see an opportunity Why not why not have a side hustle that you do that?
Starting point is 01:18:16 I think where people make a big mistake is they they do something that they're not passionate about as a Career or thinking that they're gonna make all this money. And like, I never fooled myself when I started the mobile car deal, a car deal detailing business. I didn't think that like, oh man, I know that industry in and out. I'm gonna crush this.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I was like, hey, this is smart. I've got, I have a network of people that are clients of mine, that are GMs and VPs, people that have good money, drive hummers and corvettes and nice cars and work 10, 12 hours a day. So I can use my network of people to schedule cars to be cleaned at their location. And because I've built all these relationships in the gym,
Starting point is 01:19:03 I can leverage my current job to make money. And that's something that I always recommend to somebody who's doing a side hustle. If you're going to do a side hustle, my, in my experience, the ones that I'm most successful are the ones that I leverage off this car business. So a good side hustle for us, if we were to do it, would be like coaching online.
Starting point is 01:19:22 And I know Sal's done that with Jessica, where it's like, you're already getting a flux of, you're getting DMs by the hundreds now, you know, and tons of them want that. What an easy thing to do as a side hustle is online coaching because this works as a feeder to that. That's how the mobile car detailing business work for me. The vending machines was a side hustle from when I was running
Starting point is 01:19:46 cannabis clubs. I've got a cannabis club. I've got two of them that I'm running and then I knew every owner for all the cannabis clubs in San Jose and all the way up until I had about 170. So I knew all these owners that had these clubs and I knew them before they even opened their clubs so I had to create these relationships so I could have these little vending machines that I could started to put in these clubs. Well, it was great because my current business that I was doing worked as a feeder into that one. I think when it's really challenging is when you have something that's competing or has nothing to do. That's a good point.
Starting point is 01:20:22 You know, with what your main hustle or your main hustle. Because then it'll take away from your main joy. Exactly. And then you end up running into problems. Right. I think you have to look at also what your goal is for having a side hustle. Is it to make more money or is it to bring more quality to your life?
Starting point is 01:20:41 Is it because it's something that you enjoy doing? Like if you, if you're doing a side help hustle because you're passionate about it, then you might not want to look at whether or not you're making a lot of money doing it, in which case it becomes kind of a hobby. I know people like this who they do have a side job, it kind of breaks even, but the reality of why they do it isn't because they're trying to make money doing it, because they really enjoy doing it. Like I have a buddy who is a very successful entrepreneur.
Starting point is 01:21:12 He also is very passionate about mixology, mixing drinks, no joke. He's not like, and apparently there's a lot of science and stuff that goes beyond how to make drinks taste the right way and all that stuff right there. There's a lot of creativity. So on the side, for fun, he goes and bartends and takes classes and stuff and really it just pays for the courses that he takes and it's just something he does for his own passion. So you want to kind of consider that as well. I'm the kind of person that I, it's hard for me to do something aside from what I'm really passionate about. So I like what Adam was saying about it being a part of what you're doing,
Starting point is 01:21:49 because it becomes kind of an extension of the current main thing that you're doing. It's more of an extension rather than something completely different, because splitting your mind that way and splitting your attention that way can be difficult. Oh, that's very difficult. And I know for me, obviously the first thing, if you go back in the way, and splitting your attention that way can be difficult. Oh, that's very difficult. And I know for me, obviously, the first thing,
Starting point is 01:22:07 if you go back in the episodes, I was on my kick of trying to create and develop a product and invent something, which to me was totally purely a passion project for just to see something go through fruition in terms of an idea to full, you know, discovered like this could help people. And like that was the passion that drove axon when I was working on that.
Starting point is 01:22:33 And for the most part, for me, I realized that yes, it has potential benefits and it will help to my thought process around it was like, oh, this could be something we could incorporate, you know, programming wise and this could be something great, but it's completely in competition of what we're trying to do. And like in terms of like distracting and getting me productive. And so, you know, those are like hard things that you have to understand that if you have like competing projects or goals or you're trying to accomplish a lot of things, you're going to have to weigh it out. And so, you know, you just have to move forward with the
Starting point is 01:23:16 one that really drives you. And for me, it's mind-pump. And so, that's something that I know some people have asked me to kind of wear's at and this and that. And you know, a perfect example of this. So we just had, and I don't know when this is gonna drop, but we had this guy on who created a product for jazzer size. And like it's so revealing because what I do see, and what you see predominantly with products that make it through and have a breakthrough are the ones that are so insanely
Starting point is 01:23:49 cheesy and gimmicky, but they serve one purpose. And people out there just want something that's gonna answer one little thing and promise a lot of things attached with it. I just have too much integrity to develop a product like that. I just don't like I don't like marketing with that intent. And so for me that has no appeal at all. And like I don't hate a guy for coming out with a shitty product like that that people will buy and be like super pumped on it. Like he's going to make a lot of money off of something like that
Starting point is 01:24:20 because people want that. And that that's what the market market wants and I realize that. And so for me, I'm more passionate about things that will benefit, you know, and have a substantial reason behind it that will actually like produce results with people that will be long lasting. I really like the ideas of side hustling for somebody who has already established himself as an entrepreneur and is heading that route because I believe it's the average millionaire has seven, I think it's seven lines of income. And that's tough to do if you're just doing one gig or one job. So starting to create side hustles that may supplement income.
Starting point is 01:25:08 When I was running boot camps, when I was doing online business, I was also working other places. So it was always nice to have a business that, even if it was only generating me 20 to $50,000 a year, that is still a lot more money than none at all if I wasn't hustling it on the side. And so I like the idea of doing different hustles like that, especially if you're leveraging
Starting point is 01:25:30 it off the current business that you're doing right now. Because then it's like, oh, this is this little thing I'm doing on the side, it generates a little bit of money, and maybe it goes somewhere, maybe it turns into something, and maybe I'm enjoying it, like Sal was saying, maybe it's just something I like to do. I, you know, people ask a lot of times to what, like my favorite or at least favorite business that I ever started up or did. And one of my favorites that I think people,
Starting point is 01:25:54 the Vinny machine thing was so cool. And I don't know what it was. I think it was just something about collecting all the $1 bills or something. I don't know how easy it was. Just like a stripper. All I had to do was fill these soda machines up and you know once a week basically and then I go back and then I would pick up all this
Starting point is 01:26:11 money and I go buy this and it was such a fun little gig for me. You mentioned the statistic about on you know millionaires having seven streams of income. The other thing about having a side business is that you probably want it to be passive. If you want to make money off of it, then it should be passive. Otherwise, it's going to take up a lot of your time. I mean, if you're super passionate about your side hustle, at some point, you probably want that to be your main hustle, right? If you're doing it because you want to make extra money,
Starting point is 01:26:39 you probably want to be able to leverage the main thing you're doing. And you want it to kind of be passive. You want to be more of like an investment. Yeah. And like diversify your investments versus like creating a whole another mega company. And for me, what drives me now is like building a skill set that's going to benefit what we're doing in terms of, you know,
Starting point is 01:26:58 being on the show and making the show better. And so, you know, there's some things like writing scripts and doing these types of things that are passions of mine that I, you know, there's some things like writing scripts and doing these types of things that are passions of mine that I dabble with, but it's, again, it's something that's gonna kind of benefit us going forward. Yeah, I like buying a business that's already run, that's making you income, that's one thing you could do, you could buy property, rent it out,
Starting point is 01:27:21 making come like that. I think if you, when you count all the streams of income of these millionaires, you're gonna see a lot of that kind of stuff where they buy things, they have their hands off of it, and then it's just kind of paying them. But, I'm also a firm believer in this. If you're really focused on what you're doing,
Starting point is 01:27:38 you probably wanna maintain most of your focus on it. I have yet to see anybody really succeed who's super spread out. Or they're doing 15 different types of things. Typically people who really succeed are people who are really focused on what they're doing and putting most of their energy on that one thing. So like when I had trainers that would work for me
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