Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 964: Improve Gains with Bottom Position Squats, Maximizing Genetic Potential, Favorite Client Success Stories & MORE

Episode Date: February 9, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the benefits to performing a squat from the bottom position, a person's genetic potential and limit for skill, the difference between allowing women and men to compete together but not trans women with cis women and favorite client success stories. Gym Wars: The crazy games and antics the guys used to do to get customers & MORE. (5:10) The Annual Father/Daughter dance has arrived! (12:14) What is the most fanatical event they have been to? How there is a certain amount of grace required as you get older. (17:00) The benefits of monitoring lifestyle changes with testing using companies like Everly Well. (23:05) Jeff Bezos vs. The National Enquirer: How a tabloid tale escalated and exploded. (32:24) The perfect combination: Organifi chocolate gold juice and macadamia nut milk. (47:38) A bitcoin millionaire created a haven for ‘anarcho-capitalists’ in Mexico. When one of his followers was killed, he said it was just the cost of doing business. (51:09) #Quah question #1 – Is there any benefit to performing a squat from the bottom position? (55:00) #Quah question #2 – Is there such thing as a genetic potential and limit for skill? (1:03:53) #Quah question #3 – Are you now sold on trans women competing in the women’s divisions CrossFit competitions? If so how was he able to convince you, but the representatives in the trans community were not? If not, please break down the difference in allowing men and women to compete together, but not trans women with cis women? (1:15:14) #Quah question #4 – What are your favorite client success stories? (1:23:21) People Mentioned: Joe Donnelly (@JoeDonnellyFit)  Twitter Jessica Rothenberg (@thetraininghour)  Instagram Lewis Howes (@lewishowes)  Instagram John Brenkus (@johnbrenkus_)  Twitter Products Mentioned: February Promotion: MAPS Performance is ½ off!! **Code “GREEN50” at checkout** Everly Well   **Code “mindpump” for $15 off any test** Organifi   **Code “mindpump”  for 20% off** Here’s What’s Actually Going on With Corn Syrup in Beer No thank you, Mr. Pecker – Jeff Bezos – Medium Thrive Market   ** Free 1 month membership, 25% off first order + free shipping on orders of $49 or more** John Galton Wanted Libertarian Paradise in ‘Anarchapulco.’ He Got Bullets Instead. Dinosaur Training: Lost Secrets of Strength and Development – Book by Brooks D Kubik Mind Pump Episode 955: John Brenkus Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, op, mite, op with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this magnificent episode of The Mind Pump, it's majestic. Look, for the first 48 minutes, we don't talk too much about fitness, but we do have some fun introductory conversation. Here's what we talked about in that first part of the episode.

We start out by talking about Jim Wars. All the times we were competing with other gyms and all the ways we defeated them in warfare. Then I talk about the annual father-daughter dance. I'm gonna take my daughter to that tonight. It's gonna be a lot of fun. I have a great time there. We talk about celebrities and aging a little bit.

They're a little bit offensive too. And some of that might be added out. We talked about one of our listeners and how they use the Everly Well at-home hormone tests to see how her nutrition, sleep, and workout could positively influence her hormones and actually gave us some pretty crazy insight. Look, Everly Well is one of our sponsors. They sell at home hormone tests

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Is there a benefit or is it the same thing? Next question, is there a genetic potential and limit for skill? So we talk all about what your genes make you good at, what they don't make you good at, what that potential looks like and give your mom lying to you. And if you should or shouldn't focus on those things, the mailman was kind of buffed. The next fitness question, we had an interview recently with John Brinkis, great interview, you should check that out. And he sold us on the idea of men and women competing in the same category.

Did that change our mind on whether or not trans women are at an advantage when they compete in the women's division in CrossFit, because CrossFit now allows trans competitors to compete in their gender chosen category. So we have a nice discussion there. And then finally, we share some of our favorite past client success stories, really touching, gets emotional.

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Have you guys ever because obviously you both worked in management and gyms and stuff have you ever had a competitor Play try to play dirty with you and then you just fire back at them. Well, it used to be really popular when I first started to have fire wars, where you take, you rip theirs off in a replacement. Well, yeah, you would just go and whip them off. I mean, it was like this rule, okay, you don't come into my parking lot and fire your gym in my gym parking lot. There's just like a no-no.

And if someone does that, then you just, okay, now you just rain down I remember collecting a ton of those. Yeah, and then just littering it like inside their gym Well as cool as with at 24 You know, I had a lot of autonomy and so I could do things like or I would give away like free shit like oh if you have a membership at right stuff come over here And I'll give you a month for free. You know just yeah, Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, okay, we'll play dirty. Bro, I did that.

So when I was down in Palm Desert and Palm Springs and I had a gym down there with with my buddy, there was a gold gym that was in Cathedral City. So we were in Palm Desert. The gold gym was in Cathedral City and they somebody from there put some flyers in our parking lot. And I'm the kind of person like if you start that, I get excited like, okay, we're gonna do this, cool. So my gym, there's was a golds.

And it was a smaller golds, but golds is what is it? Waits, and that's it, waits cardio locker rooms. My facility had waits, cardio, locker rooms, we also had rock climbing, we had a swimming pool, we had a racquet ball, you know, we had a sports bar. It was like a more like a country club than there was. So we have all the weights. We had a great weight area. And then some. And then some, right? So I'm like, oh, this is awesome. Here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to fly your parking lot and give every single

person who brings in a membership card from your gym, a free month and after that month, they're going to pay half the dues that they're paying with. All they have to do is bring their paper showing how much you're charging them or charge them half a month after they get the free access. Kill them. So I had to destroy them. Oh, and then I got worse. Then I sent some of my trainers over there and I gave

my trainers by a membership there. And I said, I want you to take their, because here's my advantage as a personal, someone who started out in fitness as a personal trainer, but then later on manage gyms, is I knew the blood, I knew what the heart of beat of the gym was. And the heart beat of a gym is the staff. And if you could take their best staff, you'll kill their gym. So I went over there, I had my trainers go over there, and I had them take their aerobics classes, their group X classes, their top classes. And I said,

I said see who the instructors are, where the classes are packed. Go up to those instructors, get their names and numbers, I'll pay them 10 more bucks an hour, and I'll have them teach over here. And of course, all their students followed them because they also got a free membership and paid half their dues, murdered them. The guy, the main owner, because then I would fly, he just opened up a cancer.

Oh, bro, it was a beat down. I fly, it was parking lots so often. At one point he got so mad, bro, he busts in our front door with three garbage bags full of our flyers and just throw them. Just throws them and walks out. That's great. I was laughing so hard. It was a terrible.

That's great. Yeah, it was a good time. We used to do some shit like that. You know, I actually, when we, I don't know, if you guys know this or not, but when we were going to that beef with Joe Donnelly way back when I was talking to Casey, our marketing guy, and one of the things that we almost did was to directly target his audience and if you had already been paying a monthly membership with him offer like some ridiculous discount to our programs.

And I just, we took the high road, we didn't do that, but that would have just buried his ass and I was like, that's all good, we won't do that. But we know it was, there was a point there when he was really starting to rub me the wrong way because I was like, this dude just is not gonna go away here. I can't believe he's gonna, he's gonna fucking make threats and do shit like that. And I thought, okay.

So I remember calling Casey up and saying, hey, how hard would it be to target all of his followers with direct advertising to them and give them some like crazy deal. If you already are paying them a monthly membership for them that we would give them free access or give them half off of something is it go we could absolutely do that. There's always ways. I'd rather not play those games. I mean, they can get it.

They can get fun and science game. Yeah, I'd rather not. I'd rather everybody just compete. And you know, that's part of competition anyway, though. That's not, there's nothing illegal about that. There's nothing, not only does it not illegal, I should say. It's, there's being a good sport, but if people raise the bar, then you can,

you raise the bar. Did you see the, was it not coolers? Who did, what beer was it that did the, that was hammering the other two for the corn syrup? What they were doing. Yeah, I hadn't seen something like organic or they did it. They did it. They did it was a medieval thing and he's returning this huge barrel of corn syrup and he rolls up to the first one. He's like, coolers, is this yours? And then they're like, oh no, we have our corn syrup already. It's great, but it's like, they literally campaign

against two of the biggest beer companies. That is brilliant. That is so smart because corn syrup is so, a lot of people don't like it now. It's kind of a dirty word now. Yeah. And boy, that's a good one. No, I thought it was brilliant.

I think it's totally brilliant. But it's, I mean, we'll see if it starts like a war between all of them. That is very smart. No, I thought it was brilliant. I think it's totally brilliant But it's it's I mean, we'll see if it starts like a war between that's between all of them No, I like to I like to be cool and and you know compete normally and you know if we have if we're better great if you're better Great and yeah, and that's that those little tactics Don't they work in the short term, but they don't work in a long term if you don't have to About raising the bar. Yeah, if you're not doing your job of having a superior product or whatever service you're providing. You ain't gonna last.

You're gonna last. I was really close to doing it because I don't think it's really dirty because I knew what our message was. Well, we would keep all those people. Right. What was happening already was a lot of people that had been following his crazy workouts

of 54 plus sets in a workout, you know, they were getting hammered. Yeah, and then they're coming over and they were following like one of our programs and they were seeing all these crazy results. So I knew if we gave a program for free or a ridiculous price to all these people that they would see these great results. Oh, there's the commercial. Yeah, it's a Bud Light. To be clear, Bud Light is not brewed with corn syrup. And you know, it's great about that, by the way? This is how smart they are. They didn't even say corn syrup is bad.

Because if they said that, that would have got fucked. Because then people would have gone after them for all they did was say. Now they let the consumer come to conclusions. It's already a dirty word. It's already a dirty word. And people don't want to hear that their beer is made with corn syrup.

Yeah. It kind of even sounds gross to a beer drinker, even if somebody's not in the whole wellness sphere. No, I thought this was brilliant. That's very, very smart. Yeah. Anyway, dude, you know what I got going on tonight? Hmm.

Tonight. Yeah. Tonight, dude. What do you got? Special, one of my favorite days of the year for me, it's the annual father-daughter dance. Oh, shit, that's already here again. Yeah, that's tonight.

Wow. What are you doing? You can just soot in there. I love it. You know, it's so funny. So every year, my kids school does this father-daughter dance. And some schools are canceling these, by the way. How fun is that?

So good. Yeah, because it's some kids don't have fathers. And maybe if a mother wants to do it anyway, so they why not just let the mother do it in that case. They have a mother we have a mother son activity thing too. Oh, okay. But anyway, our school still doesn't and I love it because it's a very special time for my daughter and me and it's funny because the week leading up to the event

she acts so loving. And so, you know, she's so touchy- Yeah, doing, you know, her thing and she'll draw me a picture or she'll come play with me or she'll hug me or, you know, give me a kiss or whatever. It's like this week leading up to it, I could tell she's super excited

that we're gonna do this thing. It's so great. Now, anything different this year than you've done in the previous year? No, we're going to dinner with her friends and the friends dads. And then afterwards, I get a recourseage every year. I started that the first year, so she puts that on.

You were talking about potentially doing the limo, did you? I thought about that. X and A that, do you know? I think I'm gonna do that when you're saving that. I'm saving that for maybe the last time. I think that's the move. Yeah, because the school goes up to eighth grade and so I think I'm saving it for when she's in eighth grade.

And then I'll get a- Six or six right now? She's nine years old. So what is that? Third grade. Okay, third grade. So Adam has no idea. Yeah, I'm like, what does that mean to me?

Whatever. Yeah, it's good. No, so I'm thinking in eighth grade, I'll do a limo for her and all her friends. Yeah, that does that mean to me? Whatever. Yeah, high school. Yeah, no, so I'm thinking in eighth grade, I'll do a limo for her and all her friends. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah, but because then how do you top that if you do that? Yeah, so this is a kind of lead up.

This is a Disney theme. So we went to the Disney store we got, because it's a whole process. So what are you gonna be? Yes, I pick out her dry. Oh, I just wore a nice clothes. You give me Prince Charming. No, I don't.

Oh, did it be great if you did a character No, I did I'll add it to be a lad. Yeah I'm sick of the same thing. Yeah, why cuz I'm Brunish. Yeah, no, I I'm out of jafar. Jafar. Yeah, yeah, yeah One of the other. No, it's cool man. We picked out her dress and her shoes and we're doing the whole thing and it's gonna be good It's funny to because they get so psyched when her and her friends see each other You can already see the teenagers in them. They're not even teenagers yet, but they see each other They all lose their shit. Yeah, they scream. They ah they run around and then if a song comes on that they like

They lose their mind. Oh my god, and they all sing along and shit and I'll mean, you know Me and the other dad just sit there like with our phones. You know recording All right, here we go. Doug. What was the concert that I took you, you and Bree too? What was, who was that? There was Taylor Swift, logic was there. Is that the one that we all went together? No. What's the one that I went with you?

Because I know there's one that I sent you and Bree, then there was one that I went with you. I think we went together to, yeah, we did go to one together. And because I remember watching the little girls sing, oh, Lady Gaga. I think it's Lady Gaga. I don't remember. I don't remember who it was the first one that you and I went to and we took three and I was just the concert was crazy. We're down below really close and

the girls that are probably ages from like seven to 13 or so in that range, just singing at the top of their lungs every word to see the how excited they get and like whipping their hair on the, oh my God, you sound crazy. I've never seen something like that before. It's so funny. Yeah, the fandom, when you're that age is so much more strong.

Yeah, that like all dies later on as we get older or whatever, but that's like, remember like the new kids on the block and You know those times where like people just had like hysteria over these artists kids lose their minds But especially girls especially girls lose their shit like you're watching is that I don't know what it is It's it's an interesting observation, but you ever watch Old videos like the Beatles and shit were girls are... The Edomania. Yeah, the Teenage Girls literally passing out.

And they pass out and shit. Well, our Virgin will look at the hooligans, right? Like the soccer fans that are out there, like they waffle people through, you know, like fences. Yeah, man, so fucking crazy. Male fans don't scream and pass out. No, he's been to shit, we get violent. Yeah, you know, I get all excited

Yeah, that's why that's probably the parallel right is boys with sports because I think you if you're a young boy You're pretty fanatical like that with sports. Yeah, I mean what's the most fanatical event you guys have ever been to if you guys Have been to something like that where I'm telling you that I don't know the member the wrestling the WWE just watching people like interact with it was weird Yeah, that was interesting to me because that that was a new experience being an adult. I went to that as a kid, and then I don't think it was as commercialized as adults. I was floored by that it was like an eight hour event, and that it was broken up with all these commercial segments.

All their own commercials. Right, yeah, with all their characters. And I thought that, I mean, you got Taco, and there are big companies, Taco Bell and Bud Light, big commercial. But it's their commercials. Yeah, but it's like their characters from that. So everybody who's there is like, oh my God, you know,

they have a stadium full of, you know, 30,000 people. Yeah, so I was, that was pretty crazy. But I, you know, the lady got, I keep saying lady Gaga's, I think that's who it was, but maybe it wasn't. But one of those, one of those crazy teeny-bopper singer girls. Tatsumi-bopper.

Yeah. So like, so like, so like, such a little thing. She's at least got like, real talent, you know, like, pop star-wise, like, she's up there. Well, I think that's why you, I think that's why you have to be so, you have to be, to be that fanatical or gets crazy. I don't know, man. Madonna.

I am. She doesn't have she's talented, but she's in sync very well. But in the 80s with Madonna, you had Courtney. I won't like you for that. You don't think you don't think Madonna's a good singer? No. So I mean, no, she's terrible. She's a terrible singer. But she gets to meet. She's a no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no She and I just ended at have you ever have you ever listen to Madonna my girl mad terrible But Madonna was a brilliant performer. She's a brilliant artist. Let me put it this way if music videos didn't exist She's a performer. Yeah, you're right. What a difference Madonna would have been no one if she came at the right time Music videos became a thing and Madonna was the perfect person. Yeah, I feel like she actually wrote Music though that to me like if I look at the credits on the album, like if they have vested interest in writing those songs,

I respect it. It's the ones for me that they basically have all these people writing all their music and they just sing it and it's like, not even that great, they had the look and then it's like, it's like, TARBEN-NOWN too. Yeah, it's just like manufactured.

To me, that's just bullshit. That's why Taylor Swift is so special. Taylor Swift is incredible, incredible writer. And she's the same. Yeah, I respect that. And she could, yeah, she's very good. But remember in the 80s with Madonna, she had a whole culture of girls that dressed like her.

Do you guys remember that? Oh, she changed, she changed the whole landscape. These were girls that would go, they got like the, the webbed like gloves and shit. Yeah, the thing was to go to the mall and they would dress up like Madonna. She actually created her own style of people. Well, she has brands too.

Permiscus look she has, I think she has a couple ladies. Paral brands, maybe not. Oh yeah, no. She's a monster. No, she's failed the first. She's what they call a queen of pop. She's an absolute monster. But anyway.'s what they call a queen of pop. She's an absolute monster. Yeah, but anyway, where's she been?

Madonna. Yeah, she's too much plastic surgery and shit. Courtney's been going to her concerts with her best friend, like since forever. Oh my god. Oh, do they still go? Still. Oh, that's great.

Yeah. Is that, is that my every like, it's cool to watch? You know, it was they get all dressed up and shit. Uh, that's great. It's sad seeing someone like her try and stay relevant in the same way she was relevant before. Like she's trying to be sexy still. I think at some point, you know,

you keep branding yourself as a sex, you know. I know you're trying to say that. As a sex icon, that it starts to get a little silly. You gotta evolve and kind of act, you know, it's just a little differently. Yeah, just like present yourself a little silly. You gotta evolve and kind of act, you know, just appropriate. Just a little differently. Yeah, just to like present yourself a little bit. Like imagine this, and this is true for men too.

Look, imagine if Mark Wahlberg still dressed and acted like Marky Mark, that's inappropriate for a man his age. But he evolved and he still comes across as, you know, very relevant. I don't know, I think I mean. I think he still always has a scene in every movie with his two shows. Yeah, he's still that that he's still a sex symbol for a male. Well, he still fit his fuck. You look no I know I'm not disagree. I'm just I'm I'm saying I'm defending these people because you gotta think that most of their life

Like that's what that's only no dude like if you were a sex symbol like Madonna or Mariah Carey like like what do you do for 30 years like That's your wheelhouse. that's what you know. And you imagine the mental space on the ground, lapping up milk. Yeah, that's what you think. Whoa. Madonna, bro. As you did.

Could you imagine the mental space that puts you in where you're so loved and so admired for being this hot sexy person? And then watch yourself naturally, that happens to everybody if you're lucky age and become less relevant in that way. What a hit to your ego. We're going to see a ton of it in the next 10 to 20 years because of the rise of the Instagram and Insta Famous and Instagram models. Yeah, that's all changing at all. So you have to show the flaw and all that in terms of everyday stuff. So it's like, well, I think we'll see that a lot more from celebrities, like along with

them as an age. I guess the right thing to say was there's a certain amount of grace that you can develop as you get older that will maintain that. And if you're trying to hold on to what it was before, it doesn't look as good. So here's a good example. You look at Cindy Crawford. She has like this level of grace now and she's a lot older now, right? She's I think Cindy Crawford's 50-something if I'm not mistaken. She was a supermodel in her 20s. Yeah, she's definitely. But she's got that incredible aura about her now and she's not trying to play the same game

she was playing before. She saw triv saw that to Lucians. Is that what she says? I think she saw on creams. That's that thing. Pretty sure. Yes. But, you know, who else was good at that? Jenny McCarthy.

Have you seen her on her podcast and stuff? No, I haven't seen her podcast yet. Is Jenny good? I heard a little bit of it. She's funny. You know, Jenny McCarthy's kind of funny. She's always been kind of funny. Yeah, so I like that about it.

She's got that kind of sense. Well, since we're talking about great bodies and physics, I got a shout out one of our followers, Melly fit. She reached out to me like, I don't know. I want to say it was a couple months ago. Maybe I think it's, oh, here we go. It's back in October, October, November. And she's, she's 26. I asked her if I could share the story. So anyway, it's saying like, oh my god, I can't put her business out there. She said it was cool. She's 26 and she went and saw our doctor and she had extremely low test of australian.

And she's a competitor. So she's a female competitor. She competes in bikini. I think she's actually nationally qualified. So she's been doing it for a while. And they're trying to tell her to get on hormone replacement therapy. And she goes, what do you think? You know, I really want to try it naturally first before I start to take something.

I said, I don't know. I highly recommend that you try to do it naturally first. And just gave her a lot of the advice that we talk about on the show already as far as addressing stress and sleep and things like that. Three-singer food intake probably. Yeah. And I said, well, I said order a test from every well first, get it tested. So you have something to measure. So get two of those, get one now, see where it's registering you right now, and then start

to apply all the protocol that we've talked about. And we kind of talked back and forth via DM for a while, and she reached out to me just a few weeks ago and said, dude, I came to you after my blood work showed. My test hospital was at 13. My doctor wanted to put me on replacement therapy at age 26. I took your advice and it worked hard and it's paying off. Thank you so much.

Oh, so the test now shows that she's in the normal. Yeah, and then she gave me a screenshot of where she's at. And she's at the 43 mark, which is right dead center of the normal. And she's, and she's eating. See, this is what I like about these at home, every well test, is that you, because what people need to understand is

when you get a hormone test, it's a snapshot of where you're at at that moment. And your hormones react to your environment and your lifestyle and your diet and your activity and your stress and all those, pretty much everything. So if you get tested in your diet as a particular way, your sleep is off, your training is maybe

you're training too hard or not training enough or you need to change the kind of training that you're doing, maybe you're lacking a nutrient, whether it be a macro nutrient or a micro nutrient, there's a million different factors. Being able to monitor your lifestyle changes and how they're affecting your hormones is invaluable.

The trouble with doing it through your doctor is it's a pain in the ass, it's hard to find a doctor who will say, okay, cool, we're going to schedule a hormone test for you over the next, you know, you're going to do one every other month for the next six months or whatever. And we're going gonna do these changes and see what's helping. Like, they oftentimes won't do that. They won't let you do that. No, these things have been,

everything well has been amazing. It's been amazing for me. And, I feel bad for the people that I've seen on our forum that try and poke holes in it because it's not perfect. Or there's like, oh, well, I took it in, then I went and did my blood work, and this was off, or this was different. And here's the thing, there's like, oh well, I took it in, then I went and did my blood work and this was off or this was different.

And here's the thing, it reminds me of the same debate that I used to get into people with the wearables. And the individual variance that everybody has, and at the end of the day, it's not about trying to prove the wearable being wrong. It's body fat tests. Right, it's like, exactly. Yeah, same thing body fat tests.

All these things have room for a little bit of air. The idea is that you use it as a tool to kind of measure these things. So the way I use it is I take I always order two of whatever tests I'm looking at. So if I'm taking the Omega, if I'm doing the bottom of the D, if I'm doing test australian, I buy two right away. And I get the two tests, I take one immediately. And then that number where I don't hang on the number and go like, oh it says I'm a 43. That's weird.

My blood work is saying I'm more like a 22. I can't, this thing's bullshit. No, I use it and go, okay, I'm out of 43 right now. I want to be more like a 70 or an 80 is where I want to be towards the upper limit. These I'm going to change X, Y and Z variables, whether that be, okay, now I'm gonna shut my computer off two hours before bed. I'm gonna make sure that- See how you get affected about it.

It gives you a range to work. Yeah, I give myself two or three major variables that I'm gonna give myself as a goal to change. Apply those, be consistent with them for 30 to 60 days. Then re-measure the test again and see what happens. That is, and then I'm looking at the difference from where it was and where it went. I'm not hanging on, oh, it says I'm bad or I'm high, I'm looking at where it went. Well, if it flags you, first off, if you're flagged, you get a phone call from one of them.

And they'll talk to you about what's going on. And you may go get further testing from a doctor. But what you're saying, saying Adam is 100% like, you know, in fitness and health, there's a lot of things that you track. You could track your body weight, you could track your strength, your performance, your body fat percentage, energy, sleep, your stool.

One of the things that's always been difficult to track on a consistent basis are your hormones, because it requires a doctor's prescription, you gotta go to the lab, and then a doctor may give you one hormone test, but they're not going to give you another one two or three months later, and your insurance definitely isn't going to pay for it unless there's a major issue. So you're kind of fucked, but with something like this, inexpensive, you order, it comes

to your house, and so I do the testosterone test, you know, now I'm doing it once every three months or so. Jessica just did the women's hormone health test, and she'll do another one in a couple months, because she's doing this gut health protocol right now. So does that have estrogen and progesterone, like all that, like with the testosterone? Hortazole, DG. So all of that. The woman's health one, doesn't it?

Yeah, okay, cool. Yeah, so they'll do all that in there, and she's doing this protocol, actually she did a really good post on her Instagram at the training hour about how your hormones affect enzyme production and how that enzyme production affects how you feel after you eat certain things. So there's certain times of the month I gotta look it up because I don't know exactly what it is.

She talks all about it, but there's a hormone that is produced, excuse me, progesterone, I believe, tells your body to produce this enzyme that breaks down histamine. And so what a lot of women, what'll happen to a lot of women is that a certain time of the month, they'll notice that they'll get red flushing, more hives, more migraines, fatigue,

and it's due to the fact that their body can't break down histamine. And so what you would do in that particular case is you would take this enzyme DAO, I believe it's called, or DAO or DOA. And you take this enzyme with your meals and then you don't get those symptoms anymore. Would you do that and then also lower your intake of histamine-producing food? You could definitely do that. But she says, because she does, you know, she does coaching, she has people take this particular enzyme. So what

she's doing right now, she's doing this whole gut health protocol right now with these herbs and stuff, because she's identified she has gut issues, and she's doing the Everly Well test. Now, at the beginning of the test, at the beginning of this, all this gut protocol, and then she's going to do it at the end, when the gut, you know, when this gut protocol. And then she's gonna do it at the end when the gut protocol is over. And what she should see is an improvement or a change in the positive with her hormones. Because your hormones are, they get affected. They don't just happen and then you feel a particular way,

because your hormones are a particular way. Many times, your hormones are a particular way because of your are particular way. Many times the hormones are, your hormones are a particular way because of your lifestyle. I've seen it time and time again. I've seen it with myself. I saw my testosterone levels in the middle and I saw myself get them up to the very top because I changed a few things.

I added more carbs and my diet increased my calories, fixed my gut health, reduced my cannabis consumption to testosterone for me, went up. Well, and that's why I love it because it now helps you hone in the individual variants that we all have. Like, maybe sleep was a missing component for you, but it isn't for me, you know. Maybe it was for me, maybe it was I was pushing my body too hard in the gym, and I was overtraining, and that was what it was for me, and that's not for you. Like, that's the cool thing of a tool like this is it's not about how precise

is it to the blood work I did two months ago with my doctor. It's more like, okay, this is where I'm registering right now. Let's apply X, Y, and Z, which are things that I think I need to work on and then go back remeasure again. You know, it's cool about the women's health test that they do, by the way, is they test you twice. They test you on the foreign after your period. Well, it's like, I can't remember what days they test you on, but the reason why they do, by the way, is they test you twice. They test you on a foreign after your period. Well, it's like, I can't remember what days they test you on, but the reason why they do this is obvious, a woman's hormones fluctuate.

And so you wanna see, you could be balanced at one part of your period, but then you could be off at a different part of your period or cycle. And if you go get a normal hormone test, they aren't gonna test all these different spaces in between. They're going to give you one snapshot. And they maybe you're feeling shitty. Like, okay, so here it is. It's estrogen decreases, diming, oxides, oxidase activity.

That's an enzyme that breaks down histamine. And that happens when estrogen peaks, which is midway through your cycle at the end of ovulation, and a few days before menstruation starts. So let's say you're feeling shitty or whatever, and maybe you're not producing enough to senzai, and you get tested not on those days, you're not going to see that, you see what I'm saying? But the Everly Will Test does test at different points. So they're thorough.

I think they do a good job, and they're inexpensive. So anyway, did you guys see what, what's the CEO of Amazon Jeff Bezos? Oh yeah, did you see what happened with it? I saw the article Katrina sent me something this morning, I haven't had a chance to read it. You told me that something to do with blackmail, right? Bro, so you know his whole divorce thing, right? You guys, you guys, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, know, divorces of all time, because he's worth, I don't know,

how many billions of dollars, right? Amazon's one of the most profitable companies of all time. And one of the reasons why he's getting a divorce is he was having an affair with this woman. Well, apparently the people from Inquirer magazine, or the media company that owns Inquirer magazine, obtained photos of that bezos was sending this girl from his cell phone.

Pictures of him, pictures with his dick out or with a heart on an underwear or whatever, right? And then pictures that she sent back to him wearing like, leave it shots, clear air. Yeah, stuff like that. Are you seeing these? No, so here's the crazy describing them. No, here's the crazy describing that.

No, here's the crazy thing. The crazy thing, so what Bezos has been, what they inquire, a lot of people have been saying, has, makes a lot of political moves, like they'll get, they'll get, you know, pictures of something on someone and then they'll, they'll use that as leverage to get what they want. And there was this whole, this whole scandal that happened. Blackmail. Yeah, like when Trump got elected,

he invited them to the White House, and then he connected them with the Saudi royal family, and they got this great deal in Saudi Arabia, because I guess one of the owners of that media company did some business in Saudi Arabia. So it's this big scandal, like all these fuckers, you know, they didn't go after Trump, and they have shit under the people,

and they've got political motives. And it's kind of this big scandal. And so Bezos has been speculating on it and he owns part of the Washington, is it the post or is it? He sure it's the post. Yeah. Maybe we should check on that if Doug can. But anyway, so what they did, what they did is a scent. We don't take your word for it.

Let's just keep going. Well, I want to make sure you get a dog Justin said, could you fact check that please? Check me. Yeah, it's not org. Yeah. So they sent him an email and they said, hey, basically, if you don't stop talking about our scandal

and stuff that we're politically charged, we're gonna post these pictures. And not only that, but we're gonna hold on to them. If any time in the future you guys try to fuck with us. If you don't... They can do that? No. That's blackmail, bro. It's all written down. So he just basically posts this... He made a letter, it's email. Yeah. And so he posted, he put it out there. Brilliant. Yeah. He basically said, I'm gonna fucking stand up and embarrass myself, but I wanna see what's, he's gonna, I'm gonna turn this log over and see what crawls out from underneath it.

So before they could blackmail him and fuck with him, he put it out there in a blog, posted the emails, showing what they said. Bro, all about it, like ahead of time to kind of give you background story behind it. It is the post, good job, Justin. Yes, thanks. Very good.

I am trustworthy. Bro, tell me that's not a gangster brilliant move. Well, I mean, I don't even know if it's a gangster move, but it's definitely brilliant. I mean, I think that's the way you have to handle shit now. I think that with social media and how much stuff is out there that people that try and lie, you're fucked. You did some dirt. If anyone were to call me out on some shit, I would just like right away present it. Yeah, because if, especially

if I text it or sent it in something, it's like, dude, for sure that only gets worse when you try and hide anything. So the best way to handle it is to put it out there right away. And I think that I think more and more of celebrities and politicians and big CEOs like Bezos, I think they're starting to piece this together. I'm better off just admitting yes, my Dix out there than to try and say like, no, I never did. And then for services later. Well, dude, it's crazy what they said to him.

I mean, here's what they said. Here are the proposed terms. This isn't their email. A full and complete mutual release of all claims that American media and on the one hand and Jeff Bezos and Gavin DeBecker, the Bezos parties, on the other hand, may have against each other.

A public mutually agreed upon acknowledgement from the Bezos parties released through a mutually agreeable news outlet, affirming that they have no knowledge or basis for suggesting that American media's coverage was politically motivated or influenced by political forces and an agreement that they will cease referring to i mean it's straight up blackmail so yeah but what is strong on break that down what what exactly are they wanting from baisos they're wanting him to say that the stop saying that

they're from that sottie kind of deal Yes, because a lot of other media outlets are saying, oh, they were working with Trump, and they're politically motivated, and they've gotten that kind of heat in the past, because I mean, they're dirty. That's a dirty business. That's what they do. They get shit on people and they fucking post it

and ruin lives, and that's how they make their money and No, I think it's I think what he did is brilliant because And I think it's the perfect time to I think if this happened 10 15 years ago I don't think you would have been able to do this because people would have just they would have railed on bezels But instead I think technologies of brown been around long enough that people identify more with bezels than they do with it with the other people It's funny and you know what I'm saying? Yes, this is a bad example, but like I'd I still think of how somebody like Charlie Sheen could get more popular and more liked because of like how bad his behavior was, but he completely was honest about he owned it. He owned it early though, dude. I remember like, that's what I mean. One of the best, one of the best like interviews I ever read

was in in Playboy years back of Charlie Sheen. And he just like, I mean, that was like, just like, I'm paying for hookers and snorting. He talked after that. I think he talks about he slept with over at that time over 500 or a thousand women. And so he'd already put himself on front street already. So okay, if now if you guys say that, and I think we're in a grand site, that's how

you should, what do you think about what Lewis Houses is going through right now? I mean, somebody that is up in the, in the, in the limelight right now, he's been on the Ellen show. He's exploding. He's doing great. And now he's blown up. And you have all these rumors flying around of him cheating on his girl. She does this big long post, basically out some, I mean, and she said, has he said anything about he hasn't. He hasn't. He hasn't. He hasn't. She didn't say, she didn't say his name, but the boyfriend and girlfriend. And she talks about her in her relationship to two together. Yeah, no, it's pretty obvious. It's very obvious. Right. So here's the thing

about him is he, he puts out this like really good guy in touch with this feeling type of persona. That's something like that could really, you know, could really hurt him. But I don't know if he's big enough for this to be a big deal. I feel like if he doesn't say anything, nobody thinks so. You don't think so?

I don't know. I don't think anybody's making a big deal about it. And Lewis Houses is becoming more every day a bigger and bigger deal. I mean, the connectors love him. Yeah, he just had Kobe Bryant on his show. Don't you think it would have by now, it would have been a bigger thing? That's why I find it interesting.

I actually find it, I think that's why I'm asking you guys what you think because he kind of handled it the opposite way, which is I'm not gonna pick up the brick. I'm not gonna, it's my, brick. I'm not gonna acknowledge it. Yeah, I'm not gonna acknowledge it. It's my personal life. It is what it is. I'm not gonna, even if people are gonna come on my page

and try and bait him into a conversation around it, he's completely avoided. And I wonder if it's, and he seems to be fine from it. I don't see a lot of hate coming from it. I mean, I think he's well loved and liked. And then we don't't know. He's more trying to weather the storm of it. And we don't know what happened, right? We don't really know what the, if it really happened or what the deal was, I think, you know, I think he, I don't know, he's probably doing the right thing because nothing's happening with it. But at the same time, if something comes out

and you know what's going to come out, I think your best bet is to just take your licks. You know what I mean? Come out, admit it, fucking take your hate. But because at the annual survival, well, or, or, I mean, do what he's done, where I feel like that's not a bad strategy in his situation. It's his person, right?

I mean, nobody in here is, is, I mean, we talk, let's use one of us as an example. You know, having forbid something like this where it will come out or shit like this would happen. But, you know, let's say that happened to one of us, we got caught up in something. I mean, we're a fitness podcast, we're also slash comedy type stuff.

What the fuck does that have to do with anyone's personal life? And if you can separate that, and we've done a good job of separating that, why even address that? Like, are you listening to me because of the, my relations with my partner? Are you listening to me because the information that I'm providing on my show?

I don't know. I think it depends on how you view, what you do and how you view the way you communicate to your audience. I mean, I don't know. It's a tough one. I feel like it depend on what it is. Yeah, I feel like it depends on what it is.

I feel like it would be, if it was gonna hurt the other person, I would keep it quiet. Look, I went through a divorce on the podcast and I was, there's definitely things I did not like, you know, about my marriage. There's definitely things that, you know, but I'm not gonna say anything. I'm not gonna say anything because it's gonna hurt the other person. And I wanted to make sure I maintain a certain level of respect and integrity. So I don't know. Exactly, that's what I'm saying is, okay.

I mean, I guess you would have to respond if let's say your partner was coming out after you and posting pictures and text and shit, then you're gonna have to say something, I think, you know, yeah. Well, what do you do think what she said is is enough? If you're, if you're Lewis's spot, right? Literally, okay. And you know, she came out, I believe she even did a podcast, right?

Hasn't she done a podcast talk? I don't think she talked about it. I don't know. She didn't know how she did. I know she did a long post about it. So would you come forth and talk about it or would you just leave it alone? That's a good question.

Because you just bring up a lot of stuff. You bring up a really good point that I think is true too, is that what we don't know is, and I think when it comes to cheating and stuff like that or a relationship just going south, I mean listen, I've been cheated on. And people that know this or know both her and I, when they used to hammer her.

And I didn't have that attitude. I actually took full responsibility of even being cheated on. I know that I was very distant in the relationship. I know that I wasn't as affectionate as I was early on. Like, you know, I really, I could tell that I, even though I didn't go out and cheat on her, I also kind of was starting to abandon the relationship.

So I feel that I'm just as it fault in that situation and I would take ownership of that. So you don't know that with Lewis, like for all you know, that, you know, she could have been seeking all kinds of attention, she could have been doing a lot of things like that and he may be taking the high road because he's like, listen, I don't want to, you know that she could have been seeking all kinds of attention, she could have been doing a lot of things like that. And he may be taking the high road because he's like, listen, I don't want to, you know, it is what it is. It happened. It's bad. It sucks. Whatever.

But to drag out my relationship and then also have to talk about all the things that maybe drove him to that. Well, you know, when you're hurt and somebody really hurts you, you want to lash out. And I think that's what happens a lot of times. People want to lash out at the other person and hurt them in some way. And what better way to hurt someone than hurt their image. And if your image is one of a good, you know, boy scout who's very in touch with his feelings and, you know, has a huge large female audience like fuck, like that he's vulnerable, you know, he seems pretty vulnerable. But at the same time, that means that his X-Grofen

has to play that role of calling him out, which sure you might hurt him, but you kind of hurt yourself too. You're gonna get a lot of people are like, oh, I feel so bad for you, but then you're a lot of people gonna say, well, why don't you just leave and then start a new life?

You know what I'm saying? So I don't see a whole lot of winners on that, you know what I'm saying? This whole deal with Jeff Bezos, it's not as wife that's coming out and doing this. This is a whole nother publication, trying to fuck with them. That's a different story.

Like if I'm getting fucked with, not by somebody I dated or whatever, but by some media company or some other bullshit trying to make money off of me, yeah, I'm gonna fucking come out. I'm gonna admit it and take my punches and then go for it. But if it's a partner, that's a touch, that's a touchy one, man. That's a hard one. Yeah. You know, it's a different, yeah. Blackmail, you're gonna leave yourself open to other people

fucking with you from then on out. You know, it's, you have to kind of like address it. Yeah, but I do think a lot of people, I think bezels did the wrong thing because I think a lot of people in this day and age identify more with him, I think more people like him than are going to hate him. In other words, for a couple of reasons, one, technology has been around long enough that all of us now feel the sting of someone's privacy being taken like pictures off their phone. Because I can guarantee you right now that if I go in a room of 10 people and I take all their phones and go through all their shit, I'll find embarrassing stuff on everybody's phone.

Something, whether it's a text, taking out a context, a post, or pictures. So everybody's identifying with what he's doing and everybody's gonna say, no, fuck that, don't do that. And I think we've reached that point now, you know what I mean? I agree with that. Yeah, I agree. And the other thing too is he owns a company that, I mean, it's what, 600,000.

And everybody loves. Is that what he's up to? Yes, damn. He said he had, what was it like? I mean, he did all the shipping in his garage initially, like by himself. And then it grew to like 600,000 something employees. That's a great part of the discussion.

Very easy. Because the way they tried to say that they were not liable, because they were trying to say that, oh, you can't come after us for blackmail because all we're doing is informing the public of the person who's running a major company that affects so many different people and so many shareholders. So they're pretending like that's the angle they're going to use, right? Like to consume, to protect consumers and shareholders. And bezos is like, yeah, like I have the most profitable company in the world. I've got 600,000 employees.

I think I've done a fucking good job running the company. And to me, when I- It's so silly, when we- It's so dumb. Like when you have somebody running a company and they have personal issues and they're sending pictures themselves,

but I'm gonna look at the company's performance. You know what I'm saying? Like, okay. I care what it does with his dick. Yeah, like, okay. Whatever, you know? And that's what you do. You do that's something that's another website you're looking at Yeah, and Amazon is a love company So I think that the American media, you know, organization or whatever I think that they might have fucked up here

Yeah, and then bezels has got enough money. Yeah to to play with them a little bit No, he can't a little like it. Yeah, they were in the they were in the ocean And they had interesting to see what happens to them. They was as a result of they went after the great white dude They were you know saying like I got the stick. I think I could take out this great white Yeah, I'd be afraid to what is what is potential connections and backlash could be. Oh, yeah, I wouldn't fuck with yes You're at the most cash right everybody who who works now for the inquire now, they'll never get their fucking prime. You're saying never get your entire staff.

What the fuck, I worship wrong. No more wolf boy, you know, newspapers out there. Oh man. Speaking of good product, dude, are you guys taking the gold juice, the organify the chocolate one? Yeah, no, it's good. I've taken it a couple of times, although I'm on the green juice right now.

That golden brown. Hardcore because of my cold, dude. I'm kicking this thing still. So Doug got us macadamia nut milk. Oh, did you try that? Yeah, I did. Can I tell you something? I haven't tried it yet.

I'm angry that you gave me that, Doug, because. Oh, it's that good. It's way better than almond milk. No, really? It's just the consistency. We've been talking about it for six months. It's way better than almond milk. No, really? Way better. This is just the consistency and the best food I've ever had for six months. Yeah, but now I tried it, dude, and we're all ruined.

That's how long it takes, Doug, for us to adopt it. My kids love it, so my kids tasted it, and they love it. By itself. Oh, wow. Jessica loves it, and then I mixed it with the gold chocolate juice at night, because good for sleep or whatever. Whole, it's just got a much better mouth feel

than the almond, almond milk. Is it thicker or thinner? It's got a little bit more of a creamy consistency, but it's not super thick. It's just got a nice mouth feel to it. And it's mild, it's got a mild sweet flavor to it. Okay, you're selling me. And the macros are really good. Here's the problem. It's expensive. Oh, it is. Yeah, macadamia and nut mouth pro. It's mac a mild sweet flavor to it. Okay, you're selling me. And the macros are really good.

Here's the problem. It's expensive. Oh, it is. Yeah, macadamia nut milk, bro. It's macadamia. Yeah, but through thrive, you don't say it's not as bad. It's not as bad. It's a dollar less than you'd find it.

So, okay, so then what is it? What is it on thrive? What is the almond milk compared to the macadamia milk? Yeah, he's gonna look like that. Look that up, because I'm curious to like how much more money is. Because what I did last, what I do is I put it in You know poured in a a little pot put in the the the gold chocolate in there and then just stir it Wow, he got a profit dude. Yeah, you gotta get yourself a little

Yes, yes, I got one of those that you you tell about mouth feel like that right there will make it be profit Yes, yeah, that's I can't believe you're not with funny. That's a game changer. Justin and I didn't even know the name for it. We both just did the sound for it. I'm like, do you have the, yeah, the, yeah, that thing? Yeah. The frosher. That's also the sound you make for vibrator, by the way.

That's both. It's the frothed. It works for a lot of things. You can use it for both. You froth up your, your gold chocolate with your vibrator. Oh, the plan. I also do this when I'm excited. And then I,

my hands go over my head and I make gestures. The double hand job gesture. Did you figure out the price difference, Doug? Looking it up, give me a minute. Oh, okay, I'm a pro. Sorry. Faster, faster, we're doing faster. Our internet's loaded there, right?

No, what was the thing that Doug had pulled up before when we first walked in the anarchy thing? What was that? Oh, is that like another fire festival thing? Yeah, before I get into that, here we got surprises. So, yes, milk ademia or the macadamia milk is $3.99 container. Whereas your almond milk is gonna be around two and a quarter.

Oh, so more than a dollar. Yeah. It's more expensive, but it's worth it to me. Absolutely. Macadamia's also have a really nice, I like the fats in McAdamia, not especially for muscle building. Well, it does bougie like me, yeah.

Yeah, exactly. I'll spend that extra $1.75. And we'll take a bath in McAdamia. And you're right. And you're right about that gold chocolate with the McAdamia milk. That's just amazing. So either do it hot or do it cold both ways.

So I heated up in the microwave for I think a minute is what I put it in there for. So I normally use like a measuring cup, I do about, it put about a cup and a half. Is it a glass measuring cup? Yeah, it's making like a lot of plastic. Yeah, it's a glass measuring cup. That's whole.

And then I heat that up for a minute. And then I put the, you know, organified stuff in and then I use the frother and whip it up and then I poured in my mug. It's primo. All right, so you want to talk about the Mackees? Yeah, so we the anarchy thing. I came in and we're watching it look like another fire festival.

Yeah, so I run Paul in there and I'm like, run Paul. I'm sorry. There's this guy, John Galton, who started this anarchic polko and an anarcho-pulco. And an-enarcho-pulco. It's like a pulco, but- That didn't work, and Arkey.

For anarchy, you can converge names together. You know, that did not work. In their abunch, now the title of the article is, John Galton wanted libertarian paradise. He got bullets instead. Let's make a few corrections. Anarchy and anarcho-capitalists are not libertarians. They're different things.

I love how they always throw that in there. They get lumped in there. And they also get lumped in of the conspiracy theorists and like everybody else. To be fair, the libertarian party, the actual big owl libertarian party, does have some fucking wackos in it. I mean, they're there.

There's some wackos in there. But anyway, anarcho-capitalism is basically no government whatsoever at all. It's just, you know, let markets take care of everything. Libertarians are more, more commonly referred to as minarchists, which are small government, kind of like the way the constitution originally designed, our government to be. So two different things. But anyway, he puts together this festival where it's supposed to be an anarcho-capitalist heaven, where everything's legal, you could do any drug you want, sex parties, everything's on trade. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Anyway, this guy has been growing marijuana plants and creating this business in Mexico. Now you know who doesn't like it

when you grow marijuana and try and sell in Mexico? Ooh, that's the car tells. Yeah, dude, so they fucking killed him. Wow. Oh, literally this guy, you got shot. You got killed, dude. What? Yeah, they broke into his apartment and killed him

and one of his friends I think it was. What? And then his girlfriend, they scared the shit out of her. For some weed. Yeah, because they don't, I don't know. That's how they handle girlfriend, they scared the shit out of her. For some weed. Yeah. Because they don't, I don't know, that's how they handle their competition. Yeah.

Yeah, so you don't fuck around. Yeah, dude. So that was last week. So the event's still going on and they're thinking that there's even more. Who the fuck is gonna go to that event now? They think there's gonna be more attendance now. What?

What? Because the way they advertise themselves as anarcho-capitalists, they probably attract a lot of people who are like, yeah, fuck everything, you know, and they're gonna just go anyway. Cool, I'm gonna bring my gun. Yeah, who would you be able to do, you know, saying if you're flying into Mexico, how do they operate this? That's what I want to know. Yeah, you don't want to mess with the federalies, you don't mess with, dude, there's a lot of stuff going on there.

Well, time to put it, look at this, ready? So the conference is located in a Ritzi-Ukipulco hotel. I can't say that I would like to attend this. Not to like party, but I observe. Dude, let's just be flies on the wall. Attendees shall have $554 for tickets and then they have options to pay another $500 for an investment summit, $255 for Infinite Man summit with a pickup artist. I guess some dude teaches you how to pick up chicks. That's stupid. Oh, guys, is that guy? It's probably that same guy with the top hat and the goggles. They have $140 for demystifying the... Oh, the stereo. Oh, this is terrible.

It's mysterious. Listen to this, $140 for demystifying the occult. Oh great, this is a bunch of fucking weirdos who are 250 each for various drug ceremonies like the Jaguar Vision, which is an hour long DFT experience. It's basically people paying to go do a bunch of drugs. Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Yeah, and they're weirdos. I might not want to go there.

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what this means. So when you do a traditional squat, a barbell squat, for example, you un-racked away, you're back out of the cage or whatever, or back away from the hooks, and then you lower the weight and squat it back up. Squatting from the bottom position literally means you get under the bar and it's already set low.

So the starting position is the bottom. That's where you start. So you don't get the luxury of lowering the weight and coming back up and start from the, and it is a luxury. Well, there's the spring effect that causes because of the fact that we're going down and eccentrically loading the muscle. You have this elastic energy potential that now you can catapult yourself.

Not only that, but then it also wakes your CNS up on the way down, too. It's like true. You ever notice the difference when you squat with super lightweight versus putting serious weight on there? There's definitely a point where I squat better as I go up and wait. And it's just because everything I feel is like firing and everything's alert as I'm going to.

And you get that when you're dropping into a squat, you're everything is firing, you're starting to just celebrate down in. And then you get to the bottom, then it's like boom, you rebound up like you're saying. A lot of people don't realize that you're stronger if you lower or wait first. So you can lift more, if you lower or wait

and then lift it versus just lifting it dead. Like a dead lift, you be able to lift more if you could somehow... Start the top and then come down. Stores some energy, because... And there's a lot of theories as to why this happens. Some of it's like elastic energy, the muscle fibers connect to each other.

And as it lowers, they build up this kind of stretch effect and then it, like almost like a spring adds more to it. I know coil effects. The stretch reflexes. Is that it? Yeah, I think that's sliding. Yeah, something like, I know it's part of it. Yeah, it's part of it.

So I first learned about this years ago when I read this book, I've referenced it a couple times called Dinosaur Training. And in dinosaur training, it's a great book in the sense that it talks about different concepts of bronisources, of strength training, you know, how to get stronger. And it's all about like how old school strongmen got stronger and what you need to do. And you know, it helped me develop some of my theories when I created Math Centre Ball. It's an old book, it's a very old book. It's not great to look at, but it's got some interesting information. Anyway,

one of the things that the guy talks about in there is the benefit of bottom position squats where he got his squat to go through the roof because he started training throwing in to his routine squats where he'd get under the bar and come up. So I started testing these out a long time ago. I remember the first time I did it, I was shocked at how much weaker I was. So you're so much weaker.

I couldn't believe it. Yeah, it's hard. It's like if I could do five reps with 315, I thought, well, I should be able to do one with 315 if I start at the bottom. Nope. I had to go way the fuck down. And it was a new skill and it took me a long time

to get used to it. But as I started getting better at it, my normal squat got much better. And the position, the bottom position, I got way more stable at. And so I like using this technique for movements for sticking points. So like if you're sticking point for your bench press is the bottom, you can even do this with your bench press. Get underneath the bar to where you have to kind of squeeze yourself underneath it, so it's already on your chest and you have the the safeties and then just press it up from there and you'll see that that sticking point will no longer it'll start to get better.

Well, I love doing these types of lifts. I kind of look at it like it's more of a fight. You know, I'm at the bottom. I like all the benefits or potential things that could contribute towards me, like, aiding in helping me. Like, you take all the help away. And now I'm just at the, you know, the nitty gritty of what I'm like facing. And it's like you're literally like fighting your way

from there up and summoning whatever you can to now over come and get up So it's it's a different mentality going into the exercise other than just going through reps Well, I I think the real benefit is Teaching yourself how to call upon your CNS right because when you when you drop into it like I was saying with the heavy weight You're already set up. Yeah, you you're being to, right? You start to drop down in a squat and your core tightens up and break, because you would fold over. Like you would just completely, if you were relaxed and you drop in a squat, you're going to drop in the hole, potentially hurt yourself, fold over, knees cave, everything.

But because you slowly drop into it, the CNS is firing like crazy to resist the way down. You don't get that luxury. Like South said, when you're coming out of the hole, so you have to learn to mentally call upon all that. You have to ride away, brace your core, grip the floor, make a rigid spine, and then come out of the hole without the luxury of slowly getting into that by coming down. So that's, I think that's the real benefit is the, the ability to call upon your your your entire CNS at one time to fire it to get out of the hole Especially those of us that are tight, you know, I'm a tight person right and when I lower into a squat the weight on my back Forces me into a better position. I have weight on me pushing me down getting me set up

When I get under a bar that's already set up on the bottom, that's much more difficult to do. It's like, I can't even go, I have to get under, like you said Adam, I have to like, really get my positioning right before I lift because I've done it to where it wasn't perfect and then you try and lift them that bottom position and then your form is.

Then you get like a little like a symmetry in terms of like how your forces on the straight ahead. Rock on the toes. Yeah, and then yeah, and that really that really Screasy up. So I agree like it's totally the setup is essential. I won't list like it reminds me to like you guys ever taught somebody how to do like What not not win meals, but what are I'm trying to think of the the rotation the twist that you would do like on the cables. Side job. Side job, right? And when you first teach somebody to rotate like that, and then you add resistance with your hand and you tell them to push against there, so then they can, and then also,

because you're adding that resistance, they can now feel it in their abs. It's like just a way I would coach it. So before I'd even put them in the cable, I'd say put your hands out straight like this, and then I would push against their hands. It's it resists that. And then also they go, Oh, yeah, okay, I feel that in my core. Okay, okay, that's what you want to think every time you go into this rotation. And so that helps them

connect better. It starts an intrinsic conversation. Yes. With your body. Like you're like, okay, I need I need to be able to get this ahead of time before I actually promote this exercise, this lift. And this trains that. So that's how I think of this. Like squatting from the bottom really forces you to intrinsically activate those core muscles, get your grip the floor, get in a great position to come out of there. You do gotta do a lot lighter weight. But I think it's a good form.

Yeah, and yeah, it's tough. It's really tough. I like incorporating this type of technique on all kinds of exercises. So here's a good excuse to curl in the squat cage, okay? You could set up the safety. Sweet. And you could set up your barbell,

put it on the safety so that it's at the bottom of a curl, put weight on the bar, and then from that bottom position, do your curl, lower it back down on the safety, step away, count to two, grab the bar, and then from that bottom position, do your curl, lower it back down on the safeties, step away, count to two, grab the bar, do another curl. You lose the effects of that stretch rebound effect. So in essence, you're doing a dead curl each time. And let me tell you, it's a different exercise. It's a different exercise than lowering the weight

and coming back up. Now, I'm not saying it's gonna replace it because I still think lowering the weight and coming back up. Now, I'm not saying it's gonna replace it because I still think, you know, lowering the weight and coming back, just like a bottom position squat, it's not gonna replace a traditional barbell squat. But when you add it to your routine because it's different and it's different enough,

it's a novel stimulation, your body, you're not used to training that particular way. Watch what happens, you build more muscle and you end up getting stronger. And you can use this with almost any exercise. My recommendation to implement this on a day, so the way I would program it into my routine is on a non-heavy lifting day.

So if I already did heavy squats that week, and I'm on my second or my third time of hitting squats in the week, and I've already done a really heavy lifting day, this is a day where, because you're not gonna, you'll see, it'll be 50% of the weight. I mean, I can't do, I can't do,

that's about what I do, is 50% is about what I can get up to. I can't go anywhere near what my PR, or even my singles doubles or triple workouts look like on a squat, so, you know, so you're not gonna do as much damage to the legs and glutes on these days, but I think it's great, for like I said, the CNS training and I think it's a great way to add into your routine. It's not something like you said,

so that would replace your basic barbell backswalk. Next question is from Zachary Verhessen. Is there such thing as a genetic potential and limit for skill? For sure. Yeah, I think what you end up with, this is for anything, by the way. He gets the NBA is a perfect example of this. Yeah.

Yeah. The cream rises at the top. There's nothing you can do. Oh, there's nothing I can train or do to ever be as good as LeBron James. Nothing. I could train every day of my life, eat perfect, recover perfect, and I'll never reach his potential

of his skill. No, and it's good to know this, but it's also good to know that you have a potential. Like, look at it this way. If you're using LeBron James as an example, let's say he represents the number 100 and zero is an infant who can't even walk or crawl, right? So you're somewhere in between in between that. You have your own scale. And let's say your scale is between 30, where if you never train, never exercise,

never practice your skill, that's how good you're gonna be at basketball. And then let's say 60 is your upper limit. You have a lot of range there. There's a lot of room that you can play within through your training, through your practice, through your, so because I know people who end up getting crapped out when they know this, like people will learn,

like, oh my God, pro bodybuilders, they just have crazy genetics, and they use anabolic steroids. Why am I even wasting my time working out? You still have a tremendous amount of potential for yourself. Well, and you also got to address this. So when you're talking about skill, more than likely we're talking about that being applied towards some sort of a sport and

Your the way your body is also built changes that so you know how you move it's your brain. Yeah, like so certain body types Not just your your genetic potential your DNA, but then your your skeletal structure Makes a difference also. So it's also genetic potential too, though, right? Yeah, that's part of it. But that's what I'm saying. It's not just this, okay, like I was born with this great gene to be an athlete. It's like, if your skeletal structure was designed to be more favorable for a specific

sport, you're already going to have a higher range. So if you use your example of zero to 100, you know, my, my genetic potential is a little bit higher for basketball than maybe Justin is because of his frame, like just because of my skeletal frame. But just if you base it off that because there's also genetic potential for intelligibility, agility, reaction time, all kinds of stuff. But also intelligence, there's also genetic potential for work ethic. I'm sure there's also genetic potential for work ethic. I'm sure there's a genetic potential there as well as far as and also environmental factors.

Like you have to look at all the things that make up, you know, all of your total potential. So let's say I'm competing against, let's say I own a business, and I own a shipping company, and I'm competing against another shipping company. And the guy who owns that other shipping company, genetically, is just way smarter than me. He's twice as smart as I am, but I work way harder. Can I make up the difference?

Absolutely. Maybe he's smarter on one thing, but not as smart as me and other things. Does that make up the difference? Absolutely. There's so many things that make up the difference? Absolutely. Yeah. There's so many things that make up this pie of potential that I think people sell themselves short all the time.

I think you would be blown away. I think the entire game is understanding what those things are, what those attributes are that you want to vest most of your efforts into to optimize, you know, abilities. And I feel, I wish that there was a process like you go through, like going through school, like at a young age where they can really evaluate, you know, a lot of like potential gifts that you have that you didn't really know.

You know, even if it's physically or mentally or, you know, characteristics or things like that, like why it would be so great as if, instead of always comparing yourself to somebody who's three, four inches taller than you, that obviously has certain characteristics and traits about them that they would squash you in, what you could really foster to then compete. There's also so many factors that you can't control

That if we focus on them I tend I think they tend to discourage people and I think that there's so many ways that these factors Can can interact with each other that it's almost moot to focus on them like I'll give you a great example Let's say you have a particular genetic makeup that would make you perform and succeed exceptionally well in a lifestyle that is extremely challenging. So let's say you have the genes that will make you successful if you grew up with single mom, poor abuse, whatever. Then that sounds like you win the lottery if you're in that particular situation, you become successful. Now most people probably do terrible in that situation. So there's also a combination of factors that combines

with your genetics. Like there's some very successful people that had some terrible odds, but maybe their genes combined with those odds is what made them succeed. Well, I would go out on a limb and say that 90% of the population are pretty close. So I like your zero to 100 analogy. So I believe that a good can, so I liked your zero to a hundred analogy. So I believe that a good portion,

and I'm saying I'm throwing a random number like 90, but I would think it a good majority of us could have the potential to make up quite a bit of the difference that someone would say. You may be two or three inches taller than me, but like you said, if I'm smarter and I have better work ethic, then that makes up for the two or three inches.

So I think a majority of the population is closer than they think they are, right? Then you have the 5% or 10% which are the outliers, the people that have that ability to... So I think most of us, if you use the scale that you use, Sal, are somewhere between 30 and 80. They can reach somewhere in there, like 80, but then there's the true outliers, have all the gifts and they work their ass off and really hard. Like, so you mentioned like a little bronze games.

He understood like a Michael Jordan or a Kobe Bryant, like the work ethic was insane. Nobody was doing what they're doing. Yeah. And saw that and applied that. And then also he's cares a lot more about recovery and like treating his body the right way. There's so many factors in the fact that why he is the best.

I think it's a waste of time, honestly, to think about your genetic potential. I really do. I think it's a waste of time to focus on anything you can't control. Well, one thing I will disagree with that is, because I wish I understood my body type and how that could play a role in specific sports. And I always go back to the swimming thing for me.

So I think there is some advantage based off your age. Like if we're just talking about 10 year old kids that are all built about the same at that age, it's not a big difference. But as you start to get older and you're playing four or five sports and you're starting to narrow it down to one, two or three or whatever, I do think there is some advantage to knowing what your body type is better for. Yeah, but you also got to like it.

You got a passion for it. Oh, I agree. You know what I'm saying? I agree. I mean, I didn't ever had a passion for swimming. That's why I didn't follow it. But, had my parents put me in a pool and I swam at a young age and I just naturally be people, I probably would have had a passion for it.

Because as a kid, you like to win. You know what I'm saying? And you tend to just gravitate towards the things that you are good at. And if I was put in things that I was succeeding at, maybe I would have had a platform. Yeah, but I think that goes with the whole, like, like introduce your children

to a lot of different types of sports and activities and see and then take it from there because... See what you would, yeah. Because out of it. There's a lot of people, Spud Web, great example, does not have what you would think would make an NBA player. Yet he was in the NBA because he had a whole other series of characteristics that you

couldn't visibly tell. You can just look at Spud Webb and think, oh this guy's gonna be a pro basketball player, but he had a lot of other characteristics that obviously got him to that level. So I think it's always I always think it's a waste of time to focus on things you can't, you can't change why. I can't change my genetics. Here they are. Great. Let me focus on the things that I do have control over, which is how I apply myself, the things I have passion for, my work ethic, my practice. I mean, I agree and disagree.

I agree with you that I don't think you should focus on it. I don't think it should be something that you're, oh, you should discount yourself, because you tried something one time and you weren't good at it. Oh, my genetic potential for this sport is just not there, so I should just give up. I definitely don't agree with that.

But I do, I do think there's, there is some weight to, you know, recognizing your body type and, and maybe applying yourself to, there's a million sports out there, a fucking million sports out there that you can try and play. So it can be a little daunting. Like that you may never fall in the one that was really you were designed for. And so, well, that's why I think too. It's good to, it's good to like put yourself into these types of things that you suck at and realize how hard you have to work in the work ethic part of it. You can develop and then apply that into something you're actually good at.

Otherwise, you don't learn that process. If you go into the thing you're really good at, immediately, you don't develop the work ethic. You tend to like the things that you're naturally good at. And the stuff you tend to get great at is the stuff that you're naturally good at and you also fucking love. When you find a good combination like that where you have a kid who, let's say, is built for swimming

and you put them in the water and they fucking love it on top of it. Now you've got a winning combination. Yeah, but the way I fell into sports wasn't like, wasn't that romantic, you know, I was a kid who wanted to play. And on the playground, there was a tether ball. There was, you know, got kids throwing footballs out on the dirt. And then their soccer ball kids were kicking that around and there was a basketball court.

And it was like, I played what my friends wanted to play and what got me good at the sport was because I wanted to play and I wanted friends. It really was that. And then the work ethic towards that is what made me continue that on. Like, okay, now I'm getting decent at this because I've been practicing and practicing and practicing.

And I don't think that when I grabbed a basketball, I was like a natural. I didn't just like, oh, this just feels like it was meant to be. It was like I wanted to play with kids and I wanted to have fun. And so that fed into it, you know, again, going back to what I'm saying. Like I think that there's nothing wrong with a parent who has a kid looking at your kid's body types.

Oh, sure. I'm gonna introduce him to X, Y, and Z, because I know he's built like me. Like, I know I'll do that with, you know, when I have a kid, I know that's what I'll do. I know I'll look at his structure and go like, I wanna introduce them to these sports and see, you know, if he or she ends up liking them and see where they go from.

Yeah, that's just it. You gotta see if they enjoy it and they have a passion for it. No, of course. I mean, actually, in fact, I had a message, was it, no, it wasn't a DM, it was in our forum. Somebody said that they were talking about their kid, and they were talking about how

their son is really small for his age, but they'd like to put him in sports. Which sport should they pick because they want him to build confidence, but he's not very big, and I'm like, wrestling. Put him in wrestling. There's weight classes, you'll be competing against kids his own age, and it'll give him a great opportunity. He learns technique skill, it's very competitive, and the kids you'll be competing against kids his own age and it'll give him a great opportunity he learns technique skill it's very competitive and the kids you'll be fighting will be kids that it warns weight class so it'll be as even as you know as it can be in that sense.

Next question is from Rachel Elena. In the interview with John Brinkis you seem to be sold on the idea of men and women competing in sport together. Are you also now sold on trans women competing in the women's division crossfit competitions? If so, how was he able to convince you, but the representatives in the trans community were not? If not, please break down the difference in allowing men and women to compete together, but not trans women with cis women. Yeah, so that was a great episode. So if you haven't listened to us, or any of you have women. Yeah, so that was a great episode. So if you haven't listened to us,

or interview John Brinkis, what am I saying, right? It was a great episode. So here's where we ended that conversation. Okay, he made a very, very compelling point that boys and girls should just compete against each other. And what you'll find in the younger ages in particular is there's no difference.

In fact, some ages girls, they go through puberty and the four boys do and they make faster. They make faster Excel. And I think this is where we all agree in this. Yes, and I think if we're going to, and here's his argument, his argument is maybe at the upper echelon of competition, like professional football, professional basketball, like at the 1% of the 1%

You're probably going to see men dominate most of those sports You may see some women here and there who are exceptional, but it weeds is out But it weeds it out because at that level, you know, the best of the best will play and sure and a lot of sports We're especially where size and strength make a big difference like football It's probably going to be mostly, you know, mostly man. Maybe you'll have women do certain positions, but probably mostly man. But at the younger ages, you're going to see women start to compete with men. And look, here's the deal. A lot of guys will be like, no, you know, guys are better than girls and this and that. But look, when people say, like,

when I say that, if I say that, am I better than most women? No, there's a lot of women strength athletes that kick my ass in lifting weights. There's a lot of female martial artists that'll kick my ass in a fight. And so, that was the argument he was making. Now, the argument that the trans community was making with the CrossFit is that there is no competitive advantage because they were biological men before becoming women. That's where we disagree. I think there is a competitive advantage,

especially when it comes to strength sports. However, we did say in that episode with the trans athletes, if you want to do that, why not eliminate all categories and just have everyone compete at the same time? Right, right. In which case, then it'll be totally fair. Right.

And that's kind of the argument. So is there a competitive advantage that men have over women when strength plays a major factor? Of course. That's a fact. Yeah. And I liked his way he presented it was more about which human is best in this particular direction. Rather than it would, yeah, the best man. Yeah, and so what we're talking about now in terms of like, you know, with trans community and like involving within, you know, it's sort of dividing the sexes between two

and but also incorporating, like what we're trying to do. It's convoluting the whole process of that. Like, it'd be clear, you know, CrossFit is a private organization. So they can do what the hell they want. And I think they should be able to do whatever they want. But CrossFit is a good example of one of these sports that potentially actually could do this where they just eliminate boys versus girls. It's no longer boys versus girls.

Let's just make it the fittest human in the world. And so here's what happened. And then when they deadlift, probably the men are going to have some advantage, but when they do maybe some upper body or endurance parts, yeah, probably the men are gonna have some advantage, but when they do maybe some Upper body or endurance parts. Yeah, maybe the women. So fucking a I mean if there's anybody who could actually put this this theory to test It would be like the cross-fit. Well, here's my theory if this ever happened on a large scale Where we were truly competing equally, okay, true equality everybody competes against each other and the best of the best are the best humans, doesn't matter for your male or female. I think you'll get a lot of pushback from women

because it'll start to reduce their opportunity. Like imagine if all the pro sports were men and women and there weren't a female pro sports because there was no more allowed, you weren't allowed to just say one gender to the other. There wouldn't be a lot of women in these opportunities some of these sports. Now in other sports I think there would be, like golf,

for example, the best female golfers probably can do a, actually in fact he brought that case up and talked about how I thought it was. Yeah, in terms of like where I thought it might get muddy too is how they give scholarships and how, you know, like where we can it might get muddy too is how they give scholarships and how, you know, like where we can actually like look at in terms of like which sports we're recruiting men versus women and you know how that all is going to play out in terms of colleges funding, you know,

athletes and getting the results. Exactly. So let's say college is elite, right? So let's say they have college basketball and or college football and it's all it's There's no more men's you know college basketball and women's college. It's just college basketball and it's the best of the best. You know, you might be in a situation where out of 10,000 college basketball players who are going division one or how do How many players 500 or whatever who are getting a scholarship? Maybe no women get it now because they're competing, against, or they're competing now in open categories. So I don't know, but if we're heading down that path and everybody wants to be equal, because this goes...

It's all about fairness, you know? I don't know. It's kind of like, I don't know, be careful what you wish for sometimes. Interesting what would happen. It goes both ways though. Like, if there's certain police departments, fire departments that, you know, military that has different criteria for women than men, like that would have to erase also.

We would just have the best people for the job. You either pass or you don't. So I don't know if people would even want that, but he brought up a good compelling case. And I do agree in kid sports, it makes perfect sense. I watched, you know, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, like... Shit, a lot of the girls beat up on the boys in the age. Oh, but they're faster than the boys.

Yeah, a lot of times, and, you know, it was interesting though, because I was thinking about it. And I remember two years ahead of me, like on the football team, on the varsity team, they had a female kicker and she did awesome. And it was like, it made perfect sense to everybody. It's like, she's great. She plays soccer, she's a great fit.

She kicked like 40-yard fuel goals. She had like a leg and it's like, why wouldn't you want her on your team? You know, there's things like that and where it makes sense to me. And I'm like, well, there's also a difference, I think we have to point out because they brought this up that there's something different

hormonally too with a girl who's playing soccer with the boys at 9, 10, 12 years old. And then somebody who has grown up as a boy gone through puberty become a man and then changed, had a sex change and then now gets to compete with it. They've got a lot of permanent bones there. There's a physiological difference with that versus what we were talking about with John Brinke.

So I think just because we agree with John, that I think that would be awesome to see women and boys and girls playing sports together longer, maybe heading all the way up. And he brought up good points. Like if girls were competing like that at that level, they'll look better. How much better?

Yeah, it might change. Yeah, the competitive is my ramp up substantially. They do, look, they're female when it comes to endurance, women in some categories are better. Swimming, long distance, women do a fucking exceptional job and beat man at it. There are definitely physical pursuits that women can do as well or better than men do.

So it would be interesting, but here's the thing. I don't know if society's ready for that. Like I don't know if society's ready to watch a football game and watch a woman, even if she's big and strong, get tackled by a big man, you know, who's gonna, maybe if he lays her out, people get laid out all the time in football. Men get blasted all the time.

Is society ready to see a female kicker get just hammered like if it was a man. Like we see a guy get hammered, nobody cares. But if it was a woman, I think a lot of people would be like, oh my gosh, what's going on here? And that's that whole like never hit a woman thing. And so I don't know if society's ready for it. But again, John made a great compelling argument, I think.

So check that episode out. Next question is from Taylor Becca. What is your guys favorite client success stories? Oh wow. Take us on memory lane. Yeah, yeah. You know, the first one that comes to mind for me is was one of my last clients that I ever took.

And towards the end of my career at 24-hour fitness, I really didn't take a lot of clients on. I mean, a majority of my time was spent on developing trainers, but I always kept a handful of clients. I probably trained, 20 clients tops, most times probably like five when I was a manager. And the way I went, and most of those were like long-term clients, I had already changed their lives and they were easy to be honest. They weren't, I wasn't taking hard cases on.

But if I did take a new case on, I would want it to be someone that was challenging. And so my last client that I took, this young girl, and the reason why I took her was I really wanted to challenge myself. And she came in, I'll never forget when she came in and she signed up for the membership. And she was like biggest loser overweight.

And she was young. And when I sat down to meet her, one, I liked her personality right away. She had a great personality, great sense of humor. And she was very intelligent. She was, she was a nurse. She had a sports medicine degree. So she had a, she had a higher formal education

than I did in the field. So that I knew would already be a challenge. She was an athlete, her entire life. She had been obese and she was in sixth grade. So most all of her life, she's, she's battled with weight and she's played sports. She's knowledgeable. She understands nutrition really well. And so I thought, okay, this is going to be really tough for me to take on. And so I did take her on. And this was really, and we, if you go way back to mind pump and we were talking about, because it wasn't but four or five years ago did this whole, you know, metabolic damage thing was talked about.

I mean, before that, nobody really talked about it. It was a made up thing. They didn't believe it. Nobody was discussing metabolic damage. But this, at this time in my career, I was, I'd already started to piece this together that, you know, this was common. You get these clients that, you know,

when they tell you that they're only eating two or three salads on a bagel a day and they're a hundred pounds overweight, this could be possible. And before that, I didn't believe that. I was on the science side of things that we didn't, there was no proof of this that that it happened. And so most of these clients were probably lying. But at this point in my career, I now believe of what I've seen. I've seen enough of this.

This person probably has a broken metabolism and then how do I go about this. And long story short, I had her for a few years and, you know, we lost a hundred pounds, but it was a hell of a journey. You know, when I first got her, she was eating about 800 calories. She's eating about 800 calories. She was 280 pounds and she had a long, a long way to go. She was a nurse on her feet all day long, so she was moving a lot already. She was playing softball at the time in a league.

And so it was very, very difficult for me to get her in a place. So it was, and I had to first build trust with her that I knew that I was doing, and that we had to fix her. I went as far as I used to prepare her meals. That was, I wrapped in part of the deal with her purchasing sessions was also to pay me come in,

because she was at that point in her life. She's like, Adam, I'll pay whatever. I know I need help. I feel like I understand nutrition. I know this, I know all these things, but I just can't seem to get the weight off. And no matter how hard I try, I understand nutrition, I know this, I know all these things, but I just can't seem to get the weight off, and no matter how hard I try. And we did, I cut her out of her,

she was also running and doing shit like that, so I had to cut her running out, I had to look at her food first, and we had to slowly build her calories up. And I brought her all the way from 800 over the course of the year, all the way up to 2,800 calories, without running, without doing it,

she was still doing like her softball leg and stuff like that. She was also moving at work a lot. And then I reversed her back from there and then it was a slow, cutting 250 to 500 calories out a day and then slowly adding more walking throughout to eventually to where I could let her jog and run. And we lost a hundred pounds.

And she's remained a close friend of mine and I've now seen her get married and have two kids and it's been cool to see that. Somebody who was on that, you know, reaching, you know, getting super, super obese and that they could affect her homonally and the fact that she may not be able to have children. And so to now see her in a place

that's more comfortable and manageable and her to be able to eat 2,000 plus calories and maintain her weight. That was a big success for me. And it was a challenge for me because I knew that I was getting somebody who probably had already tried a lot of things and knew what the fuck they were doing, helping somebody who's completely oblivious

and doesn't know anything. I found that to be pretty easy towards the end of my career. You just pointed them in the right direction with a few things or changed a few things, you could get them to lose a ton of weight. But she was probably one of my success stories that I was most proud of because it was one of the most challenging ones that I had to deal with. I think what's cool about the success stories, I'm thinking and there's a lot of them that are going through my head, right?

And I'm thinking about how much they impacted me through the process. It's funny as a trainer, you go in thinking, you're gonna help people and you wanna get people in shape and fit and healthy and that stuff. But you don't realize how much you're gonna get out of it yourself through that process. Because if you do a good job, you'll be working with people for years.

And there's a lot of personal growth that goes through that process, especially as you learn how to become more effective at helping people. And it takes a long time to really learn how to become better and better at what you do. But one stands out to me for me, it was early, actually one of my very first clients.

This is when I was a, you know, for all intents and purposes, if I ever compare how I was then versus now as a terrible trainer. But I had a very strong passion for what I was doing and I also had a very strong passion for people. In fact, I used to tell people that my true passion is people and my favorite hobby is fitness, so I combine the two. And this was me when I first became a trainer.

I was like, I love people. I know a little bit about fitness and this is what I'm gonna try and do. It's good a job as I can for you. So I'm 18 years old, just became a brand new trainer. And this family comes in and it was mom and dad, little girl and son. And the son was young kid, he was 13 years old,

and he was obese. And they came into the gym, they weren't members. One of the sales guys took him on a tour And then they brought me in to do what's called a T.O This is where my job now is to talk to them about personal training and see if I can get them to buy personal training and top of their membership and by this point I had established myself about two or three months in my career Everybody's like, oh, you know bring Sal and because he'll get them to buy personal training So here I go. I sit down in front of this family

and they're sitting there and the mom and dad are both obese. The son is overweight and shy. And the daughter is just a little, she's a little kid so she's not interested. It was really just for the parents and the son. And the dad was kind of like, who's kind of a dick. Like we're, we're, we're talking about fitness back and forth

and you know, he's looking at me and you know, he's saying well, we'll see you know I don't know if I want to buy him anything because we'll see if he uses it. He's talking down to his son Now keep in mind I'm an 18 year old kid, but I had balls like this always very assertive So I'm sitting there looking at this guy. I'm getting irritated because I can see this kid Really getting insecure by the way his dad's talking about him. He's not gonna, you know, he needs to prove it to me and he's not gonna do it. And, you know, I don't wanna spend money on him

and waste whatever, so I looked at him and I said, I said, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't remember, I'm not gonna use his last name. So I'll say Mr. Johnson. I said, I'm gonna be honest with you, Mr. Johnson. The reason why your son, your 13 year old son is dealing with all these weight issues is because of you. I mean, looks at me like, huh? I remember two of the sales guy sitting next to me, he was like, well, fuck 13 year old son, is dealing with all these weight issues, is because of you. He looks at me like, huh?

I remember two of the sales guy sitting next to me, he was like, well, fuck you're doing, bro. You're gonna lose my sale. And I looked at him, I said, this is your fault. I said, he doesn't buy his food, and the examples that he's follows with the examples that he watches from his parents. I said, that's what most kids learn from.

And I said, right now you're making me feel terrible. I looked at his son and I said, how do you feel about yourself right now and he's looking down, I said, how do you feel when you hang out with your friends? And he goes, I don't have any friends. And the little the boy kind of started tearing up and then the mom gives him a big hug and the dad looks something y'all angry. I said, if you want to do something, do something right now. Make the choice, get him a professional and put that in my hands. I'll take care of this. I'll make sure this happens. And so he did. He bought him a bunch of training,

and I started training his 13 year old son. And the kid was so insecure when he first started with me. He'd come in, he'd look down, you would be very shy when he'd talk. But I talk about this all the time in the show about how one of the reasons why I used to love to train kids was that fitness is such a clear black and white example of you put work in

and you get a result. And that translates to everything. Like if a kid comes in and I have them do 10 pushups today, they come in next week and I do 12 pushups, I'm gonna point it out to them. I'm gonna show them the chart. Last week you did 10, today you did 12. Do you know what that means? And you know, no, I don't know what that means. You are not the same person. You are fundamentally different person than you

were last time. Biologically speaking, you are not the same human being. Because you worked out, you could do two more push-ups. You could not do that last week. And it just, for kids, it just fucking clicks. There's like, whoa, like like I'm changing like if I put this effort in I get this out of it and so this kid was just Fucking loving it like I'm showing them like look what you can do now look what you do last week Look at your improvement and little by little this kid will come in and just Smile next thing you know he's talking to people Before you know it he's like

Fucking one of those members in the gym that everybody knows, you know what I mean? Come in everybody high five. I'm it was I say hi to everybody became the super confident kid his mom would come in His grades are getting better. He's making more friends completely transformed his kids personality in the meantime lost 15 pounds Building muscle. I had gotten promoted to manager and then I had moved out to run another club and kind of lost contact with them and You know years later he found me and the guy is a personal trainer You know he he told me how much I changed his life how much fitness changes life and it's just I remember that because I remember It was the first time I had ever seen because after that I saw saw that many times. I could see the impact that if you apply real fitness and health, if you really teach someone to care about themselves,

if you teach them to feel good about themselves, you show them the work that they put in, what they can get out and actually value that. You see that happen time and time again, but that was my first time really witnessing that remarkable transformation, not just physically, because yeah, physically lost 15 pounds, he looked different, but he became a different person on the inside, completely different.

You wouldn't recognize this kid in a five-month period from a shy, insecure kid who was almost going to cry at the membership sales desk to five months later, high five and people making jokes across the gym and basically becoming this confident young man. And of course, like I said, later on, telling me how it just impacted the rest of his life. So that's always gonna stand out for me. Yeah, not have to follow that up. Thanks a lot. We lost 100 pounds. Yeah, this guy had kids live. Oh, let me one up you here.

Just like I increased his kids load a quart by like half an inch over a second. So, in the NBA now. And he pays me, like, still, it's great. Yeah, no, I have a very similar story, but it's... This kid I have who was... I got a kid's story, huh? Well, he's not a kid. I say kid, like now that we're old,

but he was in a community college at the time. So, you know, his whole thing was he wanted to get into this college and to play rugby and to play this sport. And he kept applying to this school. And his goal was to really get in. And his grades just weren't good enough and he was overweight.

And I mean, everything that you had mentioned, like not having friends, like he just was coming to me in destitute. His parents were with him and signed him up in same situation where the parents didn't reflect health at all. Like they were just, you know, they were obese themselves. And this kid was like had found some success with rugby and with playing sports in that

there was like a position for him. Like, like almost like a lineman where like the big, being big was, was, was worth something. Right? almost like a lineman where like the big being big was was worth something right like this was a great place for him to to start you know building community. But he had higher aspirations he wanted to get better and it was just great to work with him because. He came in with just like nothing but the self deprecating like I'm terrible at everything, like just this humble attitude of, I'm completely your canvas, like teach me everything. And you know, obviously that's easiest type of client to receive. I have many stories like Adam as well where I've had the most difficult people in the planet that have turned around and have become like lifelong friends, but

that have turned around and have become like lifelong friends. But this one stuck out just because I saw how that affected every single component of his life. Like, it was so crazy to me to see changes in relationships. So not having friends all of a sudden, like, you would bring a friend to the workout and they'd kind of watch because the friend was really curious what he was doing and how confident he was getting and how, like, so sooner or later, I had an impact with his whole team, you know, in his community college. And then I'm talking to his team and everybody's kind of getting around it. And it became this sort of, like, community where we were all trying to lift this kid and get him into this college. And so after training him over and over again,

he's seen improvements and we're getting more technical. And I'm able to teach him more technical lifts. He's learning power cleans. He's learning, you know, snatch. He's learning power cleans. He's learning, you know, snatch. He's learning like dead lifts. And, you know, it took almost a year to get to that point where I'm like, okay, let's start learning like higher skill stuff. And let's see how that translates for you on the field. And he would see that. And then their coach would ask me what I'm doing with him because the strength coach

was really curious to see that how well he was performing. So anyway, it just kept compiling. And then now he's getting an interest with a girl. And so now he's got this girlfriend that's he's bringing along. And then he goes to file and apply again. And this is like his second year in junior college. And then he's just like real nervous. And he actually opened it with me.

Oh, that's cool. And in his parents, and so he got in, and they got accepted, and so it was like this big deal. But anyway, so that was like very memorable for me. Doesn't that, don't you feel like you got in when you opened that? Yeah, I was just like, yeah, I mean, we had this like huge celebration.

It's, you know, fitness is the ultimate self-improvement, the ultimate, and here's why. There's a lot of different ways you can improve on yourself, but they're all so complex. And I'm not saying fitness is easy because it's hard as hell. I'm saying it's simple. It's way more simple than other forms of self-help.

Like if you really want to improve yourself, if you go get active and start watching your food intake and just start eating a little bit cleaner, you're gonna see improvements, and that's boom result right away, boom result, and automatically it builds your confidence, automatically kind of changes who you are. It's the ultimate self-help.

This is why I love fitness so much because I can talk about it and help people. I can get to people, look, imagine trying to talk to someone about self-help but not through fitness. Like, hey man, let me help you out with your life. And you start to, like, fuck you, I'm not listening to you. But if you say, hey, I can help you get your shape, make you stronger.

Yeah, it's- Motivationals. You're right. But fitness I think is the ultimate way to do it. I had one, this one lady, I had a, believe it or not, I have a client who a Stanford study was created around. Believe it or not. Wow.

So I had a lady who came to me, she was a professor, college professor. Can you go into another story? No, I had to tell you this is short one. I was gonna say, bro, we're gonna do this all day long. No, no, this is short one. This is really cool. She came to me because she had osteop you this is short one. I was gonna say, bro, we're gonna do this all day long. No, no, this is short one. This is really cool. She came to me because she had osteopenia,

which is before osteoporosis, and she had low blood, low red blood cell count. So low that they thought she had leukemia years ago, and they thought she would die, but she didn't die, but she had this weird condition where her red blood cells were low, and they were doing all these treatments on her, and she'd suffer from these bouts of severe cold,

where her body couldn't warm up and she'd be fatigued and they didn't know what the fuck it was and it would slowly go lower and lower and she wasn't dying for some reason, they couldn't figure out why she wasn't dying but she obviously wasn't doing well. So she hired me as a trainer and I thought, I bet you this will improve your red blood cell because bone marrow produces that, bones get stronger from lifting weights, we're gonna definitely strengthen your osteopenia. I bet it's gonna help.

And sure enough, everything started to reverse. And her doctors at Stanford called me and asked me what I was doing. And they created this whole study around her because her condition was so rare and how weight training had started to reverse it. It was really freaking rad. Yeah.

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