Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 969: The Brittany Dawn Fitness Scandal, How to Improve the Mind-Muscle Connection, Full Body Workouts vs. Body Part Splits & MORE

Episode Date: February 16, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the pros and cons of full body workout programm...ing vs body part splits, best tips for focusing on the mind/muscle connection, lifting weights while pregnant and the Brittany Dawn fitness scam. Have the guys always been anti-establishment? (3:50) Mind Pump talks politics. Why we NEED more objective voices to stand up and how ONE person should NOT have so much power. (6:50) The drama over the ‘Scouts’. Why there is a HUGE problem with humanity. (14:45) Will Adam finally get life insurance now that he is expecting?? (19:44) Introducing the Joovv Go. (25:30) Why if we remove processed foods from our diet, our bodies can reach their more natural weight. (30:03) Mind Pump recommends Strongland on Netflix. (37:48) Are there any feats of strength that the guys have witnessed in person? (44:15) #Quah question #1 – Can you please go over the pros and cons of full body workout programming vs body part splits? (50:02) #Quah question #2 – What are your best tips for focusing on the mind/muscle connection? (1:00:33) #Quah question #3 – What are your thoughts on lifting weights while pregnant? (1:09:30) #Quah question #4 – Can you speak on the Brittany Dawn fitness scam? (1:15:52) People Mentioned: Bill Burr (@billburr)  Twitter Bishop Robert Barron (@bishopbarron)  Instagram Ben Shapiro (@officialbenshapiro)  Instagram Dr Gabrielle Lyon, DO (@drgabriellelyon)  Instagram Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Ben Pakulski ® | Official (@bpakfitness)  Instagram Grace Barga (@gracebarga)  Instagram Brittany Dawn (@brittany_dawn_fitness)  Instagram Products Mentioned: February Promotion: MAPS Performance is ½ off!! **Code “GREEN50” at checkout** Health IQ   **Free Quote** Joovv   **MAPS Prime w/purchase of $500 or more and free shipping** Senate has uncovered no direct evidence of conspiracy between Trump campaign and Russia Get Me Roger Stone | Netflix Official Site Girl Scouts sue Boy Scouts over name change - CNN - CNN.com Sunday Special Ep 31: Bishop Robert Barron Boy Scouts organization inaugurates first all-girls troops Mind Pump Episode 967: Dr. Gabrielle Lyon NutriXiv Preprints | Ultra-processed diets cause excess calorie intake and weight gain: A one-month inpatient randomized controlled trial of ad libitum food intake Strongland | Netflix Evaluation of Strength and Irradiated Movement Pattern Resulting from Trunk Motions of the Proprioceptive Neuromuscular Facilitation Amazon.com: Watch The Business of Being Born | Prime Video Instagram fitness influencer accused of scamming followers Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Oh, oh yes, right there. I'm confused. They're not the Boy Scouts anymore. They're just the Scouts. Yeah, that's it. Let's get it right then we talked about Adam Because you know, he's gonna be a dad now and I think Adam he's finally gonna get
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Starting point is 00:01:44 and you're gonna get free shipping. Then we talked about motivating kids to do well in school. We talked about the processed foods study and we talked about the show on Netflix called Strongland. And then we get into the fitness portion of this episode. The first question was, this person wants to know the pros and cons of full body workouts versus body part splits, which ones are better for what and which ones are better for you.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Next question, what are some good tips we can give on helping people develop a mind, body, muscle connection? Sounds all weird, right? The third question, we give our thoughts on lifting weights while pregnant, of course Adam's girl, is pregnant right now. And Justin looks like he's pregnant.
Starting point is 00:02:35 So we talk all about, every day after every exercise that you should do. Screw you, Sam, I'm gonna give you. The last question, we give our input on all that drama that's going on with the Instagram star. Oh snap. Brittany Dawn, did she rip people off?
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Starting point is 00:03:56 Convention. Yeah, I'm not a conventional guy. Someone's like, hey, don't step there because it's a hole in the ground and you're gonna fall and kill yourself. And I'll be like, fuck you. Oh yeah, I'll do exactly this what I want You know what I'm saying and then as I'm falling like I do it. Oh wow you didn't tell me what to do My I broke my ankle. Yeah, were you guys like that worth it? Were you guys like that as kids like we're just you just didn't like people telling you
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah, I wish I wasn't 100% I was like that. I was, I mentioned it on the podcast the other day and actually Katrina brought it up wanting to know where I thought I'd stem from. And I'm like, you know, I don't know where that came from. Like, it's probably something that you had as a child that it started then like where you, like I was never somebody to go do what everybody else
Starting point is 00:04:44 was doing. That just, I didn't somebody to go do what everybody else was doing. That just, I didn't like to do that. I always wanted to do my own thing, or have my own thing, or create, or be the first to do. See, this was interesting, because I had a group of friends that would party and would do things with sports, and we'd hang out, and then I'd also have my church friends that would, you know, with sports and we'd hang out. And then I'd also have like my church kind of friends
Starting point is 00:05:06 that would like have you over and like you'd have like Bible study, you'd have all these things. Like I couldn't get fully vested in either or, you know, ever. It was always like, why don't I do that? And then like nobody would have my back and be like, okay, I'm outta here. Yeah, I'm always been critical,
Starting point is 00:05:23 and that critical skeptical of the mob. You know what I mean? Of the crowd, I'm always been critical, not critical skeptical of the mob. You know what I mean? Of the crowd. I've always stood back and looked at it and then like, what's going on there? Bill Burr, the most amazing bit on this about fuck groups. I completely agree. As in like screw groups or like these are groups that like fuck groups.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Yeah, no. Yeah, not fuck groups. I don't know if Bill Burr is. Bill Burr is the best. He's just got such a great perspective on it. Yeah. He's like, yeah, don't everybody needs to think individually. Dude, and I'm, which is the opposite of what we do.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Yeah, and I would, I would be a terrible, like I wouldn't do well in prison for this one reason right here. I would get, I would get murdered in there, because even as a kid, if there was a big kid or a group of kids, or when I was in junior high, there were gangs, and if I felt like any of them tried to punk me or tell me what to do, I couldn't live with it.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I would last approximately a day. Like if something happened, I'd go home that day. Several times this happened, one of them would bump me and there'd be like 15 around me or whatever. I'd go home and I'd just all night, I'd be thinking about like, I have to stand up to them. I have to say something. And I did the vise plan, fully prepared
Starting point is 00:06:39 to receive an ass whooping and be happier with that than having had to back down. Right, right. And just a terrible, terrible, anyway. Right, that's hilarious. Hey, you know what you haven't brought up? And Doug hates when we do this, but someone do it anyways. But you have to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I mean, you're our boy Trump yesterday. Yesterday or they before, he's in the clear, right? Well, the Senate committee said that they found no evidence that there was any oh yeah anything going on yeah dude my boy was convinced he was going to get impeached of course that was going to be the the descends yeah of course everything so politicized it's insane it's funny too because I post I posted a picture of an article that said that. The article said, you know, Senate committee, you know, says that there's no,
Starting point is 00:07:27 they found no evidence or whatever. And I posted like a picture, like a little gift for whatever of a woman eating popcorn, because I'm like, this is gonna be very interesting. Like I can't wait to see, from a distance watch what happens with this next election. Right. And this irritates me.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Here's the thing that irritates me. And now, I'm very clear on the podcast. I didn't vote for Trump. I'm not, there's things he does I like. There's things he does I don't like. I'm not necessarily a huge fan. But some of the stuff he does, I'm a fan of. Again, some of the stuff he does,
Starting point is 00:07:56 you're taking the emotion at it. I'm very critical of, right? And so, I'm not like a huge fan. I posted it and I'm like, with the popcorn gift, like, oh, let's see what happens. And immediately I get people who are like, oh, you can't trust that website or that newspaper. I had this lady's like, oh, that website,
Starting point is 00:08:11 or that news organization, they're all, they're all right leaning whatever. So I'm like, okay, how about NBC? How about political? How about CBS? How about, because everybody's reporting it. Yeah, and I understand where she's coming from, but what gets on my nerves is, not all information is going to be fake. Some of it will be do your
Starting point is 00:08:30 own research before you jump to defend your own political bias. If we had more objective people, here's a thing. A lot of people are the people who are afraid of Trump are afraid of the power that he has and the things he could potentially do, but he wouldn't have that power if those same people Didn't sit by idly while Obama gained all that power and all the people were afraid of Obama Wouldn't he wouldn't have had all that power if they didn't sit by idly if Bush when Bush expanded his power like we wouldn't be in this situation If the president had the amount of power he's supposed to have, which is not that much. He really is not supposed to have tons of power. He's not supposed to be able to invade other countries.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He's not supposed to be able to do executive orders all the time. And because they do now, people are so afraid. He's like, look, we should be in a position where we laugh at the president, like whatever, do what you can to shit, you have the power. But instead we're in this situation, you know, but I'll tell you what right now,
Starting point is 00:09:24 from an outsider standpoint, from somebody who tends to not like aspects of either side, although right now the left is frightening me a little bit with their how they want a sensor speech and stuff, which is kind of frightening considering they're the ones that I like. Irony of it, right? Well, they used to advocate for free speech. It's really their biggest proponent of it. It's really scary because they're the ones pushing
Starting point is 00:09:46 for banning speech, putting, finding people for what they consider hate speech, which here's the thing with hate speech. Who determines that? That's always the fear. Jordan Peterson did a bit on this. He talked about how in the UK, there was that one comedian that taught his girlfriend's pug
Starting point is 00:10:04 to do the Hitler salute. Oh yeah. Remember that guy? Yeah, that's in the UK, right? Yeah, it was in the UK, there was that one comedian that taught his girlfriend's pug to do the Hitler salute. Oh, yeah. Remember that guy? Yeah. That's in the UK, right? Yeah, it was in the UK. I mean, no, it was in the UK. He thought it was funny, some people thought it was funny, some people thought it was offensive,
Starting point is 00:10:16 whatever. It's just a fucking pug. And Peterson made a great example of, he says, look, it wouldn't be, it's funny because it's a pug. Like if he's teaching children, or if it's like a German shepherd, you know, and they're trying to, you know, that maybe, but he's like, and not only that, he says, we have to, you know, back in the medieval times,
Starting point is 00:10:36 the jester was the one that was able to tell the truth to the king and get away with it. And everybody knew that when the king executed the jester, they were dealing with an evil person. And so comedy needs to be able to speech only. Is that the role that was the role of the jester was actually to make fun of things that were like, be ironic?
Starting point is 00:10:54 He was the only one that could get it. He or she was the only one that could get away with. Oh, I didn't know that. And so they'd get up there and poke fun at the key. It's parody. It's stupid. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:04 I thought it was an entertainment for the king, but it was more for the people and like of like the voice of the kind of like what comedians do today when you think about it's the history of like what comedians do because comedians do political commentary and say things that shit taught me some most people can't a lot of people can't say you know but you can say when it's a joke and comedians have for forever gotten away with shit. And so it's kind of scary because the left is like, they're the ones that are pushing for speech censorship,
Starting point is 00:11:31 which is kind of frightening. But anyway, I disagree with things on either sides often times, and I'm looking at this from the outside and brewed. The economy's crushing. I don't like the debt, but I don't think the debt is gonna crash on us anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Trump's gonna be, I don't think any, but how are they going to beat him? You know, it's going to be hard to beat. The thing that I'm most, you know, worried about with all this stuff is, I'm, I've always been Mr. I don't give a fuck about politics. I joke about it all time, saying some sports for nerds and, you know, I've talked about it more in the last ball. I've talked about it more in the last like eight years and I have my entire life. And I don't think that has anything to do with my age getting older. I just think it's the climate right now.
Starting point is 00:12:15 I've never felt such a division. Because I see it within my own circle of friends, friends of mine that we didn't really care. Talk about that stuff anymore. You know, there's definitely this clear division of ones that kind of work for the government and work on that side of the house and then those of us that have like built our own. That's really where I see it too, and it's people that are employed, you know, and have, and that's the thing. Like you have a perspective because like who's cutting you checks and and what initiatives do you want to pass because it's going to affect your environment in right in front of you. There's clear things I don't like that Trump does. And so when people criticize and say, I hate him, I like to ask them, like, okay, what is it that you don't like? Let's have a great conversation. And I fucking hate it
Starting point is 00:12:55 when people do this. This happened with previous presidents too. It's not unique to Trump. But they'll be like, oh, well, you just I don't like I just don't like him. He's a bad person. You don't know what to criticize, because you don't know. There's plenty of things to criticize. Talk about the tariffs, talk about debt, the debt that he's doing, talk about some of his
Starting point is 00:13:16 kind of strange relationships with certain figures in the Middle East or whatever, talk about foreign affairs. But no, I don't, oh, he's an evil person. I just don't like him. You, my friend, are a blind individual who's just got a strong political bias. Doesn't fucking matter who the person is, just because they're on the opposite side,
Starting point is 00:13:35 you don't like him. And that's the game that politicians play. And that's why there's only ever gonna ever be two parties. That's why I know it's funny when a third party tries to come in. The only time the left and the right work together. They had to crush them together. They saw that with that Roger Stone documentary
Starting point is 00:13:52 on Netflix is like, instrumentally was behind trying to make sure that the Ross Perot factor did not happen. Oh yeah. It just doesn't matter. It fucks one side or the other completely. And so nobody wants that third party. No, they work together and they do it in a very sneaky way to to get nobody else in the conversation. And then they force you to think those are your only two options. And the way they do it is. If you ask people who vote for one side or the other,
Starting point is 00:14:22 oftentimes what you'll hear is oh They're the lesser of two evils you know, I'm saying you hear that will be like oh no. Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Hillary, but I hate Trump or I'm not a fan of Trump, but I hate it Hillary I just voted libertarian. We're just wasting though. Yeah, or you vote a green party a little. Thanks. Yeah I can't have my own thoughts Fuck oh yeah, well with me. me, I were touching third rails. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:48 What's going on with the Boy Scouts thing right now, man? Oh. I know that's Refflin Feathers right now and there's a bunch of shit getting stirred up with them. Well, so they made it, now they're just the Scouts. By the way, do you guys know that the Girl Scouts are suing them? Yeah, well, they're going, on the bank crop, so they're going at like, it's hurting them substantially. The Girl Scouts are suing the Boy Scouts well, they're going, they bankrupt, or they're going at like, it's hurting them substantially.
Starting point is 00:15:05 The Girl Scouts are suing the Boy Scouts. So I did some research. I'm taking a lot of business with them. I did some research again, this is an issue that's become politicized. So I'm like, okay, I want to get through the politics. Let's look and see what's going on. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:16 The Boy Scouts have been losing money for a long time. They were embroiled in lots of controversies, sex abuse and misunderstanding of money and all that stuff. The Girl Scouts, the girl scouts and the boy scouts are separate entities. Okay, they're not like one organization doing their separate entities. One is cookies, one makes a crash.
Starting point is 00:15:32 They're separate entities. Okay, so the girl scouts are going after the boy scouts because they're both called scouts and now that they change it from boy scouts to scouts, the girl scouts are saying, you're people are gonna get confused and think they could just go there basically saying, hey, we're not the same.
Starting point is 00:15:48 And the fact that now you're just scouts and allowing women or girls to come in isn't cool. So I found that fascinating. You know what, and this is a really touchy subject. I'm just in this mood, I guess, today. But I heard something that Bishop Baron talked about, and you just said something with the boy scouts and that because they've had they've had the child Stuff go on to you right with the boys. Yeah, I'm just like sexual
Starting point is 00:16:10 Have you ever heard Bishop Baron talk about that with the Catholic church? No, so it's kind of entry I was listening to it. I don't remember what interview he was doing and I was and oh it was a bench Shapiro Great interview so they they get in this and Ben Shapiro asked them some really challenging questions and that was one of them. He went into that and he explained and he did it way better than I ever could. So, you know, those that are going to get offended right away by this topic, like go listen to the way he articulates his points. But the way he kind of talks about it is, you know, it's one of those things that because where it came from, like the Boy Scouts or like the Catholic Church, we know, it's one of those things that, because where it came from,
Starting point is 00:16:45 like the Boy Scouts or like the Catholic Church, we fucking make it crazy. But when you look at statistically, like, how many thousands of Boy Scout leaders are there, and what percentage of that actually did this, and then you compare it to the rest of the world and all professions, it matches up or it's the same or it's less. That's actually an interesting point. Yeah, like so he goes, you know, if there's, I don't remember this number, so don't quote me on these numbers,
Starting point is 00:17:10 but he said something like, there's, you know, 4% of child abuse that happens in the world. And so when you look at the church, or you look at the boy, you look at these things, there's 7,000 leaders within that, and 4% have done that.
Starting point is 00:17:27 Yeah, we're having a queues. But what we do is we isolate that, I mean, there's this huge problem with, no, there's a huge problem in humanity. In general, in humanity, that's fucked up. And you're not just because you, you could probably have that same stat like going through like daycare centers.
Starting point is 00:17:42 That's my problem. I thought that was fascinating. It is, my problem with, and I wanna go back to the Boy Scouts cause there's something else interesting about that. But my problem with Catholic church isn't that, it's that the cover up that happens as a result of it. Of course, and by no means did he, was he, that's why I wanna be triggered
Starting point is 00:17:57 that everybody that I triggered by talking about this. He did a really good way of talking about it. Wasn't like he was justifying it, but he was explaining it. He's actually, he's actually a huge proponent of fucking opening it all up, letting everybody know what they know, and what's going on. Prionish people who need to be punished. But that was just something that I had never even thought
Starting point is 00:18:15 about that, because I too, I remember when that all happened and came out, I was like, holy fuck, but if someone had, imagine if you just presented that information different to me, that it looks like even the church is tainted with this But if someone had imagined if you just presented that information different to me that you know, hey It looks like even the church is is tainted with this as as the rest of the the Yeah, so back to the the Boy Scout thing So I had seen that now there's you know, there's more girls like coming into the scouts and
Starting point is 00:18:39 They've actually created their own all-girl Scout tribe in the boys like girl scouts within the boy scouts, but not boy scouts is the scouts. It's what the fuck is going on? Again, it's poor kid. How could you be very confused, you are a kid? Like, where do I side up, dad? Well, it is a politicized to make it look like,
Starting point is 00:18:58 oh, boys are, you know, they're going against boys, but girls get to do this to that. So we gotta look at it this way. The boys consider them both separate entities, right? And yes, one was all girls and one was all boys, but forget that for a second. The girl scouts did very different things in the boy scouts.
Starting point is 00:19:14 So the boy scouts did a lot of camping and survival stuff, and the girl scouts didn't do that kind of stuff. And so there's a lot of girls that wanna do that stuff. They wanna do that stuff. Now, that makes sense. Yes, and so here's what I think is going to happen. I think the Girl Scouts, if this ends up being a big deal,
Starting point is 00:19:29 Girl Scouts are going to have to change and start adding those types of things in. You see what I'm saying? That's what I think to compete. Although the Girl Scouts have done pretty well, it's the Boy Scouts that they've lost money or whatever. Right, so that is really interesting. Talking about not doing what people tell you to do,
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Starting point is 00:20:03 but honestly, at this point in my life, there was not a heavy reason for me to do that. I do have a heavy reason for- Emergency now, huh? Yes, so there is a little bit of urgency to make sure my ass is dead. Do you remember what your health IQ test score was? It was high.
Starting point is 00:20:19 It was the same as yours. It was like 97, it was like that. No, no, no, it was hard. That was, we were one something, weren't we? I think out of 100, I think it's out of 200. No, I don't know. It was like 200. Yeah, it was like 200.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You and I scored exactly the same, I remember. Yeah, I was like 187. You pretty much copied me. Yeah, exactly. I copied your homework. You know what trips me out about that when I was on the phone with them is that they use that score. It's not just a bullshit way to get people to get leads or whatever.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I thought it was that. I saw it. Yeah. No, no, no, no. You take their health IQ test, which the questions they ask and they're good. They're not stupid questions. They're not like, you know, is it good for you to work out?
Starting point is 00:20:53 No, they're really filtering people out with it. They, like, you need to know fitness. And, you know, you need to know fitness somewhat. Right. And the, when you take the test, they actually use that score and that score helps bring down your price because they've identified that people who score well on that test, which I think is fascinating.
Starting point is 00:21:11 People who score well on that test are a good investment on their part. They know they could charge them less because the fact that you have a higher... Very logical sense. Like you're gonna care about your health and so therefore you're gonna educate yourself. How cool is that?
Starting point is 00:21:23 The fact that you know more about health and fitness, they've now been able to connect to the fact that you're probably gonna live longer, therefore we're gonna give you a cheaper rate. You know what I mean? The other thing that was cool, Adam, that's gonna work in your favor, is they don't look at cannabis use
Starting point is 00:21:38 like other life insurance. Yes. This is a big deal. Yeah, because most life insurance companies, if you smoke weed, they count it like tobacco. And if you smoke tobacco, life insurance, you's okay. No, this is a big deal. Yeah, because most life insurance companies, if you smoke weed, they count it like tobacco. And if you smoke tobacco, life insurance, you're fucked. I think your price will double or. And I'm sure like our fan base, there's this.
Starting point is 00:21:53 I'm actually gonna stop anyway. Can't do this. Completely. Or just reduce a lot. Yeah, I don't like saying that because I know that I'm gonna get a bunch of DMs and people asking, are you done or you this net? Or good?
Starting point is 00:22:03 I'm not gonna let this isn't something that I'm like, I could never have it again. I'm going, but I don't want my son to be born in a house where that aroma, but now I don't give a fuck, it's my house. I smoke in it, I do whatever the fuck I want, but even if my family comes over and they smell, I don't give a shit, they know, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Like I don't care, but I will care when it's my son. I think when he's in the house, and I don't want him to, they know, you know what I'm saying? Like I don't care. But I will care when it's my son. When I think when he's in the house and I don't want him to even get used to that aroma. So for sure, it'll be out of my house. Maybe do it like when you guys have a date now. I can imagine we're traveling somewhere. I mean, for sure, I'm gonna light one up with you guys. In fact, I'll probably enjoy it even more than
Starting point is 00:22:41 because I rarely have a date. Hey, that's what I noticed, man. Yeah, that's what I've noticed. I've noticed that I've reduced my usage considerably and I noticed that I enjoy it more now when I do do it. Yeah, and really for me, I don't want my son to see or in ever even misinterpret my use as anything. Like I don't want it to be a part of his life. Now, when that time comes and I have to have that conversation
Starting point is 00:23:05 and he asked about it and wants to try it, it's not fine. Yeah, absolutely. And I'll educate him and talk to him about it, but I don't want to make that decision that much easier. You don't want to make it a normal part of his life. Absolutely. I know I hear exactly what he said.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Absolutely. And I've never cared enough to even potentially just completely, but again, this is why, this is this is why I've always been pro cannabis is I don't have a problem just stopping. Oh, it was 100% harder to get off caffeine than it was to go fast off of Canada. I've done a really good job in my opinion of keeping a nice bounce.
Starting point is 00:23:43 Now on the show, we talk openly about it, and you know, I'm known as like the marijuana guy because I did the two cannabis clubs, and I'm pro at it, but it's not like I'm stoned. You know, like I'm worth a dog, dog is stoned. He's got push buttons here. Not true. So, yeah, you know, absolutely, one of my favorite things in the world to do is, you know, when the warriors come on at 7.30 at night,
Starting point is 00:24:08 before I go to bed, as I sit down and have a little bit and watch the show or whatever. Here's the other thing too, about life insurance, I was talking to Doug and Doug says that, obviously when you get it, if a health issue comes up, after you've got it, they're not, they can't cancel it.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's your right. If a health issue comes up now, you may, not only will you rate go up, but they'll deny you many times. So oftentimes people will go in to try and get life insurance. And they just had a healthish thing. So now they're like, oh, I should get life insurance. Sometimes that point is too late.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You know what I mean? So getting it when you're fit and healthy is the way to do it. I'll have to, why don't I have to do a physical dog? Yeah, you have to do an exam, probably blood urine. You can probably know EKG. If it's on how much you get, it's far too long. Why don't I have to do a physical dog? Yeah, you have to do an exam, probably blood urine. Prostate. Probably no EKG. If it's on how much you get, it's far too much like insurance.
Starting point is 00:24:49 You're gonna put all kinds of things in the book. Oh, so like if I do like a really high, high life. Yeah, the more insurance you get, the more comprehensive it is. Well, I'm gonna need some help with you to probably sit down and talk because I wanna make sure Katrina and my son don't have her have to worry,
Starting point is 00:25:03 but I don't want them to be fucking make out big time. You know what I'm saying? You don't worry. I don't want any motivation for my death. So I want to find that sweet spot, but you know what, to figure out inflation over the next 15, 20 years with to figure out like what? I think you're overthinking it.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Yeah. You know something happened. No, the truth is you really want your family to be well-taken. Of course, of course. And I don't think anybody has a real motivation. Nobody gets much at this point in you way to knock you off. Is that, is that, is that on right now?
Starting point is 00:25:34 You have the Juven right now? Yeah, yeah. Dude, how do you like the little, the little carry? Well, you see me using it right now. I mean, I'm, I'm digging it because it's, it's smaller than, it's even smaller than I thought it was. It fits in your hand. Yeah, yeah, no. It's like the size of a really big iPhone.
Starting point is 00:25:48 But it's thicker obviously, but it's got the same. Yeah, it's actually, that's a good, it's almost a Samsung note. A tiny bit bigger than the big iPhone, right? And like you said, thicker obviously, but you charge it, so this thing, you just plug it in, doesn't take long to charge it up, then it's pretty much charged up. I don't know how many hours it lasts for, but it has these
Starting point is 00:26:08 three little dots that show me where the battery life is. So this one's a little more dim, though. I saw the other one that was like super bright. So they sent us a bunch of them, right? And I tried two of them and one of them was fucking crazy bright red. I mean, it looks like you're entering into a new dimension. Then the other one that Adam has, you can barely see the lights, and if you turn the lights off, you can see them a little more, but it's barely, so at first I'm like,
Starting point is 00:26:32 is there something wrong with this? But then I remember the big panels, have a combination of those two lines. Near and far. Yes, so that's what it is. So the red one, which is called the, I think it's just called red, is a different wavelength of this of red light.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And that's the one that's absorbed by the superficial layers of the skin. So that one's good for skin. So collagen production, skin clarity, improvement and skin's tone and texture. It's good for the eyes, the thyroid. That's the one that's probably... All the surface stuff. Yeah, anti-inflammatory support, hair restoration.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So you want to make your hair grow, you want that one. The near infrared one, which is NIR, that's the one you have. That's a deeper penetration. I say muscle soreness. Muscle and joint health. They also say on their site that it helps with gut health and organ function because a greater percentage of the energy is absorbed into the deeper tissues.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Now, ideally, if you want to go balls out, you use both of them, but if you get that little mini one and you know exactly what you want to work on, like, like, like, I go balls out with it right on top. Right, exactly. No, like, if you want, like, you want to help with wrinkles or you want to, you know, help with just your skin tone and that kind of stuff, go with red.
Starting point is 00:27:47 If you're more like, I want muscle recovery, go with the anion. No, you know, and I'm glad you actually did that because I actually thought it was the other way around. For some reason, I thought the brighter one would be the deeper penetrating one and then the lighter one would be the other one. So I have that lighter one right now, but that's not what I want it right now, because I'm more about the skin and the hair, right? It's the, for me, I've noticed, I noticed when I used it on my head, my hair's fuller, and by no means does it fuckin' fix me being thin, but it makes it,
Starting point is 00:28:16 it's definitely thicker and fuller, which is nice, right? If you know it's FDA, that red light therapy is FDA approved for hair regrowth. Well, it's not like a bullshit. It sounds like it's bullshit, but it's not. No, even every doctor we tell, we just had a great conversation with Dr. Gabrielle Lyne.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Yeah, Gabrielle Lyne, and she was just a huge advocate of it also. I mean, everybody I've talked to is pro at it. And I remember, I told you guys way back when we first got sponsored by them, and when I was sitting in front of it, the two things that I noticed, the biggest difference. I had a hard time noticing recovery stuff. That was a really tough one. It wasn't something so dramatic. I was like, holy shit. Like Ben said, because Ben's that made us sound like it was a big deal. And I couldn't see that. What I did notice was
Starting point is 00:28:58 my psoriasis was 10 times better. And then my hair was thicker and fuller. That's it. Like that. But I also noticed too. I neglect it. I don't do it, and then it's back to kind of how it is. Like my psoriasis right now is because I haven't been consistent with this, I can see it. I was just worried initially when we were part of them because it was like such a barrier to get these panels and these units because it's so expansive. And like, I know people were looking for alternatives, you know, online and they could find them
Starting point is 00:29:26 but didn't have the quality that was like tested like Juve has. And now they have like this smaller one that's actually affordable and like it's more reasonable. It's like, oh wow, finally. It's still not cheap because it's the hike cost. It's like 300 versus like thousands of dollars. Yeah, that's 270 bucks for it.
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's not that, but it's, it's fucking quality. No, it's dope. I mean, even the, even the box and shit you get it. And you get, that's $200 something bucks for it. It's not that, but it's. It's fucking quality. No, it's dope. I mean, even the, even the box and shit you get it. And you get it. Well, I remember when we were first talking with them, I talked to Greenfield about it. And he's like, oh, yeah, he goes, there's a lot of red lights on the market that are bunk.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah, like you're just getting red light, but you're not getting the kind of red light that, you know, all the study's supporting all that shit. So, yeah. Anyway, so you know what I love more than anything? Being right. Isn't that know what I love more than anything? Being right. Isn't that feel? I fully believe this.
Starting point is 00:30:08 That's my way. It's such a good feeling. Was this something who was arguing? No, nobody was arguing, man. It's okay, so a study. She's arguing with herself, I'm rough. Damn it, I'm right again. So a study was, just came out and they studied
Starting point is 00:30:24 to look at how people operated on two different kinds of diets. Ultra-process diets versus more of a natural food and take natural food type of diet. And what do we always talk about? What is the main reason why we tell people avoid heavily processed food? Right. Yeah, high jacks, your system messes with, yeah, your palate. That's it, because you can, can you eat highly processed food that's more healthy than the unhealthy stuff? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:55 It's not inherently unhealthy, although more often than not processed food isn't super healthy. Or the whole natural foods that aren't as healthy as other foods, yes, but more often than not, whole natural foods that aren't as healthy as other foods, yes, but more often than not whole natural foods are healthier. But that's not the main reason why I tend to tell people avoid processed food. What they found in the study is that the reason why people gain weight when they eat processed food
Starting point is 00:31:19 isn't because insulin spikes or anything like that. It's because their consumption causes people to overeat like crazy. Yeah, fuck duh. Yep. And so this was a tightly controlled study, which I love, was carried out in a metabolic ward. So they're controlling what the people are eating.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And they found that when people are allowed to eat unlimited access to highly processed foods, they way more than when the foods are on process. So the bottom line is if you are trying to manage your food intake so that you don't overeat, you're gonna, it's gonna be really, really, really hard if you have a diet that's high in highly processed foods. In fact, I would go as far as to say,
Starting point is 00:31:58 if all you did was eliminate processed foods, you would probably see your body weight move towards a healthier, more natural place. I don't think you'll get shredded, but I think a lot of people will automatically lose weight just because they find they don't want to eat nearly as much. It's interesting because you see like Whole Foods diet and you see this like kind of like surface.
Starting point is 00:32:18 And I know a lot of people have had like this sort of epiphany just going through that process. And it is because when you really start to gather whole foods and you have to spend the time chopping it, you have to spend the time preparing and then cooking it and then you go through that whole process and you realize what's involved with that, it's just another one of those things where you see the opposite of that, how easy it is to just shovel it in,
Starting point is 00:32:45 and then also it's like you crave more. Well, make no mistake for thousands of years, humans now have been trying to make food more palatable. I mean, every culture has their own particular style of cuisine, and some styles are more popular than others. You know, Italian food tends to be really popular, Mexican food, French food. And really what they're doing when you're looking at them and the whole natural foods that
Starting point is 00:33:11 they cook with and stuff, is they're trying to make whole natural foods more palatable. And we've been doing that for a long time. The thing is processed foods takes it to a completely different level. It's like an exponential factor. They are literally fucking with your chemistry to a point where it's almost not fair, you know what I'm saying? Well, I, you just did a really cool post on abstaining from things.
Starting point is 00:33:35 And I think it's just, it's just that. It's, I'm not mad at all that stuff. I think it's awesome that with sciences evolved us so much that we have this ability to make some, like how amazing was going to that stake restaurant we had. I mean, that's science right there. They have learned to pair wines with certain meats that you're doing. They've put all these different things together to, you know, make our brain go bananas
Starting point is 00:33:59 as we're eating it. And it's fucking amazing. And I love it. I would never, I don't think I'd ever wanna go back the other direction, but I think that the same old school principles of whether you're somebody who's religious and take that from biblical stuff or you just believe in that as a good practice, but learning to abstain from things is such an important practice.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's like awesome, sex is great, but it can get out of control too, it can take over your life. Just be aware, like be aware of what you're dealing with. If you, if you, be aware that when you're dealing with highly processed foods, lots and lots of engineering and money has gone into making that food so palatable that it's going to hijack your system and that as much willpower, all the willpower in the world,
Starting point is 00:34:43 the odds are stacked against you in essence, and just know that, know that, it's like an alcoholic, a recovering alcoholic, going and getting a job in a bar. Like they're putting themselves in a pretty shitty position, and they think they'd be aware enough to know that's probably a job I shouldn't get, because as much willpower as I have,
Starting point is 00:35:00 you know, being around alcohol a time, it's gonna really encourage me, well, these processed foods are like that. And I'm not talking about it like it's an addiction. The average person, like you put a bag of potato chips in front of me and FIE one or two of them, it starts to send those signals off way more than whole natural foods do. A baked potato won't do that. I don't care how much butter you put on it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:35:20 It sends those signals into motion. Boy, trying to maintain a diet where calories are appropriate. It's gonna be really hard because, you know, we all, we all, in conjunction with what's happening right now. I mean, what are we seeing with tech in the last 10, 15 years? I mean, we're not having to drive anywhere. We're not having to move to do anything.
Starting point is 00:35:39 I mean, it's, so you, you, you pair those two things. Science is getting better with the hijacking of the flavors and making your brain go nuts when you eat stuff. At the same time too, we're making things so convenient for you, you don't have to get off the couch and go to it. I mean, the combination of those two of those things, it's no wonder we're getting worse. I think what you need to do really is look
Starting point is 00:35:59 at processed food and respect it. Does that make sense? Like, I know people who, you know, drink alcohol, I know people who do drugs, but they, no, and I'm not advocating for those things, but they also respect those things enough to know. Like, okay, I like, how powerful that. Yeah, I like doing these drugs.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'm not gonna, but I respect them enough to know, if I do them every day, it's not gonna be good. Like, look at processed foods that way. Look at them and be like, okay, I'm respecting the power that these things have. So you kind of treat them that way. I'm not talking about demonizing these things, but treat them that, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:36:32 We all understand and talk about how humans evolve during times of scarcity for the most part in that. Our bodies are hardwired to wanna eat when food's in front of us. But there's another thing that's hardwired into us that we don't talk about much, which is it's just as bad as it is for you to starve. It's almost as bad for you to overeat and cause yourself to get sick and cause digestive issues and become obese. And the human body knows that. And so when you have whole natural foods in front of you,
Starting point is 00:37:03 it'll stop you many times from eating past a certain point. It just fucking does. Like go and try to eat just whole natural foods and try to overeat that way. And you'll see how much more challenging it is than when you're throwing processed foods at yourself. Because the body naturally wants to maintain a little bit of homeostasis. And we're just hijacking the fuck out of it with all these crazy foods and I love that a Study came out to support that because we always talk against process foods and then we got people who go against us like it's all about Yeah, your food is bad food. Yeah, it's like you're completely negating human behavior out of it like all the the psychology of it You're totally pretending like that doesn't exist when that's like 90 something
Starting point is 00:37:44 Percent of it. That's crazy. like that doesn't exist. When that's like 90 something percent of it. That's crazy. What was that show on Netflix? I wanted to talk about that that's the one. Yeah, yeah, I was just going through that series. I watched the first one. It was in Spain, I believe, and they're doing these crazy lifts with... They basically fashioned their own kind of rocks out of it,
Starting point is 00:38:03 and to where it was like cylinder size, like square, all these different types of shapes and they kind of made like a sport out of it. And it's like their own, you know, really popular thing there, which was very, I didn't even know it existed. So I didn't see this, I thought, okay, no, that was the legend series,
Starting point is 00:38:21 which I think you're thinking of with Eugene Seagull. I watched what you're talking about. I watched that first episode. So what is that about? They show different strength sports around the world? Yeah, they show different strength sports, like how different cultures kind of use, like a lot of laborist practices,
Starting point is 00:38:36 you know, like in terms of like tilling the fields and like, you know, farming or, uh, in terms of like, uh, what's it called when, when, um, you know, you're a terms of like, what was it called when, when, you know, you're a brick layer or like a stone mason. Like you were a stone mason. So the second one I just watched was, it kind of got into the history of the Highland Games
Starting point is 00:38:56 and then also just like the different historical stones that were like around the country and how they had all this like historical significance and like everybody, like it was a test of a feat of strength as a warrior to be able to lift a certain type of a stone and then place it upon the top of this stone. Oh, I love that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah, on the top of the stone. I got all like, you know, like sentimental about it because it was like, I just traveled there and it was just like, I didn't even know, like I was like, oh fuck, they have, like, you know, like sentimental about it. Cause it was like, I just traveled there and it was just like, I didn't even know, like, I was like, oh fuck, they have these like, like crazy stones in like certain locations, like at this grave site, at this corner, and it was like, it's known that like,
Starting point is 00:39:35 this stone was like lifted by all these great warriors. And, oh, that's so awesome. You know, yeah, I totally got into it. That's so funny, cause you know, I got, when I was sick, someone DM me to, I got a couple of people. I always, if I get enough DMs about one thing, I'll go watch it, right?
Starting point is 00:39:50 And that was another one that I got several DMs. I couldn't quite get into it as much. I obviously know why Justin loves it. Was it Ireland where it was at? That's where it was. It was Scotland. Okay, so, and the premise that I got from it was just that it was showing the history of like
Starting point is 00:40:06 way before strong men competitions and these games even existed. People have been doing this in other countries for a very, very long time. And it's so basic, like one of the ones they have is just this huge block stone, right? And you get this little metal handle and a chain that goes to it. And it's just, you drag it one inch at a time. You know what I'm saying? It's like, and it's like a race from one side. Just feats of strength.
Starting point is 00:40:31 Yeah. And every almost everything that I saw, or at least what I saw in the first episode, I might have watched too, that I saw were all things that you had to do on the farm, like somewhere else. Yeah. That's how it became a thing was like, this is shit you gotta do anyways.
Starting point is 00:40:47 You know, let's see who the best farmer or the best. Let's see who the strongest and most able bodied person is to do this. Yeah. And then it like catapulted, God, I'm trying to remember the name of these two very famous stones. What are you talking about with the handles on it? Mm-hmm. And people from all over the world have come over there to try and lift these two stones.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Wow, so I have a special place in my heart for these types of things. First off, I love seeing old cultures and their their their their feats of strength and their sports that are kind of unknown. And what I find that's fascinating is you find these types of events in a lot of countries. There's a lot of countries that do these types of things and when you know Part of the reason why I have a special the special places when I went to Sicily to visit my my dad's side of the family When I was 12 my grandfather told me about all the Feets of strength that him and his friends and stuff would perform and And it's funny because he would tell me, and then some of his old friends would tell me about the things that he would do. And the way that they would do these, for a long time, my grandfather...
Starting point is 00:41:53 Ten East Ends, I'm sorry. My grandfather tended to lemon orchards, so Sicily is known for growing lots of lemons. So my grandfather would go manage some of these and help pick them or whatever. And he would talk about how many, how many, what do they call palettes of lemons they could lift. And oh, your grandfather lifted four. He could live four on his head and carry him all the way up the hill. And other people couldn't do that and it became this big deal. And I find this stuff. My dad is, he gets into this kind of stuff. So when I used to go work with him, you would see at lunchtime, him and his workers would take a shovel and they'd hold it
Starting point is 00:42:28 by the very end of the handle. So this is a big, heavy shovel. And the goal was to lift it with your arm totally straight. And then they'd be able to do it sometime. And then what they'd do is they'd put sand in the shovel and see if they could do it and who could do the most. Or they'd get a sledgehammer. This one's actually quite common
Starting point is 00:42:41 where you hold a sledgehammer at arm's length. And then you'd tilt with your wrist. You tilt it and you touch your nose with it. I've done that one. So if you're not strong, you're going to smash your feet. You're going to smash your face. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and I love these types of feats of strength because I find them so just so bonding and so fun. Yeah. It's also, I mean, God, when you think about what we do, you know, for a living and what we've done for a living for so long, teach other people how to lift dumbbells and barbells long before all that.
Starting point is 00:43:09 This is how it started. Before a barbell or a dumbbell was created, some asshole took a tool and touched it to his nose, and was like, oh yeah, that's really unavailable. Right, I bet, I bet, Guaranteed, they did things, which is crazy how we just are as humans that we just found these things to compete with each other. And then somebody probably got competitive and wanted to get good at it, so training began.
Starting point is 00:43:32 Yeah, the Denny Stones is crazy because you have to like, you have to hold them together. And so it's like the only way you can do it is in this kind of split stance. Oh, I've seen a one in fact, I don't want to back. Yeah, so you lift it up almost like in kind of a lunging position and then you try and shuffle forward. And so apparently this diny guy was able to take it across this bridge and back. And so that was like the whole thing was the distance of how, not only do you pick it up, but you'd like carry it with him
Starting point is 00:44:01 and then like set it down and pick it up, carry it with him. It was like 340 something kilograms, which was like over well over 600 pounds each stone. So it's just like it's insane Have you what are there any feats of strength that you guys have ever witnessed besides like professional strength athletes You guys ever witness any feats of strength with like I know you guys have worked blue collar and farm You ever see anything where someone's doing something and you go to try to do it and you're like what the fuck My dad could do some really cool stuff with my stepdad Like the way he carry like two by fours up Flight the stairs or across like beams on time there that always it was already heavy as it was and then he could balance it on a shoulder with like no
Starting point is 00:44:41 Hands as he scaled across like the framework of the building. And then he used to do this thing and this is less of, well it is some strength, strength and skill here. He used to take 16 inch pinnayles and he'd take a roll of them in his hands like this and he'd make a tight fist. And this was, I remember when he was teaching me, you know, we'd be somewhere and all I had to do was, you know, two nail, two 16-inch pin nails, to the roof, and then move
Starting point is 00:45:05 the next two-by-four or two-inch pin nails. And I mean, it would take me a half hour just to work like one little side of this. I mean, I'd tap it in and then you clean, clean, clean, clean, anyway. So he would come over, and it's two hits. One to set the nail, and one to sink it. Set sink. Set sink. Yeah, I would watch him do what, think, think, think, think.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, I would watch him do what just took me a half hour to do, I would see him do that in literally less than a minute. He was perfect at the process. Oh, and yeah, and just perfect. And it was like, whoa, and as a kid, I was so impressed by that, that ability to do that because I've been, and still to this day, if I ever have to hammer, and I don't want to do it a lot,
Starting point is 00:45:43 but if I have to hammer a nail, and I always think of that memory of like, fucking, fuck my dad, dude. You just have to get this one down. Yeah, just think of this one nail, and it takes me 15 minutes where it's a tap to set and then a sink, and it's like, that's the strength. You don't realize that short in the form
Starting point is 00:45:59 to be able to bury a 16 inch pinning nail into a two by four? Yeah, I've seen a guy that played football with me. There was this car that was like kind of blocking another car and we're like, oh fuck, we need to get a bunch of guys. We're gonna move this thing and he's just like, ah, and just went over there, picked it up and started sliding it himself and like moved it over. And then we all like tried to like,
Starting point is 00:46:22 we're like, oh, that must be a like a light car. It was not a fucking light car. That was a legit like one ton car. It was hilarious. I was like so baffled by that. Yeah, my dad's still to this day. And I have a little bit of his strength, I guess, for size. But I don't have 100% of what my dad has.
Starting point is 00:46:43 My brother has more of it. You guys met my brother in Vegas. Right. And, you know, my brother, he's a big guy. He's a big dude. He's a big kid. He doesn't lift weights, and he'll come in here, and he'll squat three plates and bench two plates,
Starting point is 00:46:54 like nothing, but he doesn't even work out. He just rides his bike for distance. Three does. He rides like literally 50, 60 miles on a weekend or something, silly like that. And he's got more of what my dad, my dad used to trip me out And when I was a kid I thought I'd be able to do what he did when I got older
Starting point is 00:47:10 I still can't I'll never forget one time I was I want to say I was 16 years old I'm in the backyard and I for the first time ever was able to clean and overhead press 135 pounds with the barbell for a 16 year old kid That's fucking strong, right? But I had been working out already for two years. So I was waiting for my dad to come home from work. Like I'm gonna show my dad, he's gonna be so proud of me or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:32 So he walks in, he's tired, right? It's like five o'clock at night, he's got cement all over him, whatever. And I'm like, hey, come here, I'm like, look what I can do and I fucking clean it. And then I boost it, and I press it up, and then I drop it and he's like, whoa, he goes, that's really good. good goes. Let me try that out and the fucker cleaned it with one hand
Starting point is 00:47:49 He cleaned it up to it like a snatch it wasn't even like a press He just fucking snatched it up with one hand and then years and then years later and I can't do that now I still can't do that years later. I was probably this is probably I want to say seven or eight years ago So my dad's not like a young guy at all. And he's got arthritis in his spine and this and that. He came into my personal training studio because we were going to have lunch. And he's asking me how much the kettlebells weigh. And I said, oh, this one's, you know, 25 because they were in kilos.
Starting point is 00:48:19 I said, this is 25. This one's, this one's 78 pounds, I think, was the, was the bigger one. And he says, can you press that, you know, can you lift that above your head? So I do a one arm press with it. And it's pretty heavy for me. I'm not a huge overhead press guy. And so my dad goes, you ever try to push it, press it while it's upside down? And he goes, oh yeah, that's a call to bottoms up press.
Starting point is 00:48:38 I said, I can't do more than 30 pounds like that. That's hard. I mean, you guys know exactly what I'm talking about. You hold it by the handle. Again, he does it with, and he was in his, he was, you know, 50-something, he's all, he did it with the fucking 78 pound kettlebell. In front of all my trainers. And all my trainers are looking at me like, what the fuck? And everybody goes and tries to do it and we couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:48:57 And those are some of my favorite, you know, my favorite things. I'll remember those. Remember when you used to think that like, old man's strength was like a myth. No, it's real. Oh, it's very real. Oh, it's very real. No, it's very real. And until I really started to understand how the CNS works, and I know there's still a lot of things
Starting point is 00:49:12 that we don't know about it, but we know enough about it and the importance of its role that it makes total sense that old man strength is a real thing. It's because you've trained a certain way. You've done so many things for so many years that you're CNS when it calls. And you refine those movements and systems
Starting point is 00:49:27 like so long that it's like that well established. Oh yeah, that's a good time. This quads brought to you by Organify. For those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition, Organify fills the gap with laboratory tested, certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edited edge.
Starting point is 00:49:48 Try Organified, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I dot com. And use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Our first question is from Tiki Taki Talk. Can you please go over the pros and cons of full body workout programming versus body part splits? The age old debate. Tiki Taki Taki.
Starting point is 00:50:13 The debate between the full body and the body part split. You know, there's, I think we have to do, it's kind of talk about the biggest differences between them. Now, I'm typically partial to full body workouts because in my experience, working with lots of just everyday people, you know, who want to build muscle strength, burn body fat, just everyday people, the full body workouts are much more often than not more successful. And I think there's a couple reasons why. One of the main reasons is the amount of frequency
Starting point is 00:50:50 that you hit a body part. So when you do a full body workout, the typical full body split is a three day a week workout. So you go to the gym, you know, classic, right? Monday, Wednesday, Friday, each of those days you're working out your entire body. And really what that looks like is hitting each body part three times a week. Now the traditional body part splits, the more the popular body part splits are where you take a body part one or two body parts, you train it on one day, then the next day you train one or two other body parts and so on.
Starting point is 00:51:21 And those usually allow for once a week body part frequency at the most two times a week. And that's becoming more popular nowadays, but for a long time there, it was all about hitting a body part once a week. So it was literally, well I think that's why we came out, you know, we came out so much more in opposition to splits,
Starting point is 00:51:41 initially, because that was still the old formula. It was like once a week We're gonna hammer our legs as much as we can to carry us throughout the entire week and And then like split the muscle groups accordingly, so you only hit it basically once maybe twice a week Yeah, and we can measure the muscle building process Post-exercise by measuring something called muscle protein synthesis and when that's post-exercise by measuring something called muscle protein synthesis. And when that's elevated, it's a really good indication that your body is synthesizing protein and building.
Starting point is 00:52:10 That's primed to grow. Building muscle. And that signal spikes right after workout, but then it follows pretty quickly. And for normal, for normal intermediate, you know, beginners, that falls at about 48 to 72 hours. For advanced people, that can follow about 48 to 72 hours. For advanced people, that can fall right after 24 hours. So peaks and then goes down real quick. And what ends up happening is if you hit your chest
Starting point is 00:52:33 on Monday, only on Mondays, even though you may have damaged the hell out of the packs in your sore, that muscle building signal is gone after Wednesday. It's pretty much done. And then what ends up happening is when that muscle building signal is gone after Wednesday. It's pretty much done. And then what ends up happening is when that muscle building signal is gone, the body usually starts to go in the opposite
Starting point is 00:52:51 and then starts to take muscle away. And so this is why people get trapped in that whole, you know, tear down, you know, process where they go to the gym, they hit their body parts were hard, they get real sore, they recover full four week, they go back to the gym, they work out real hard, get real sore, and they do this over and over and over again, never getting stronger. The breakdown recovery trap.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Yeah, never progressing. I think the real takeaway from the difference of these two is what you just hit on and that it's not that it's a full body versus a split. It's that one of them tends to have much higher frequency than the other. And that was the big takeaway for me when I switched from a split type of routine versus a full body routine, is now I was hitting all these muscles three times a week. And even if I did that occasionally, because I had done this previously,
Starting point is 00:53:41 I would do back when I was originally getting started as a personal trainer and we were reading all the same magazines we talk about, I was doing a body part split and then basically hitting every muscle once, maybe twice. But then there'd be like a muscle group I really wanted to focus on and so I would try and increase the volume on that and sometimes that meant more frequency on that
Starting point is 00:54:03 and I'd see a little bit of development, but then what would it happen is my consistency would drop and then I would that would not be sustaining that size anymore to kind of go back. And it never really didn't click for me yet, like the secret to that. And also, when you make the switch, and this is where I think a lot of people struggles, when you make the switch from a body part split, which I think a lot or a majority of people tend to gravitate towards, when you make the switch over to the full body, you have something that's very key, is you have to now adjust your
Starting point is 00:54:35 intensity. And the previous times that I tried to make my way over to a full body routine, I made the mistake of trying to carry over a workout volume that was equal to my... All in one workout. Yeah, all in one workout. And so what would happen is I would, you know, because I trained myself to hammer a muscle so hard that I'd go, okay, I'm going to do like this full body routine today, but then I was hammering each muscle.
Starting point is 00:55:01 And then I was incredibly sore and then I had to come back two days later and hit a lot of those muscles again and I'm like, fuck, I'm so sore, it's hindering and then I was like, this doesn't make sense, this isn't for me. And I kind of gave up on it. I didn't think that the body part or full body routine was as good as the split for that reason. The problem was I wasn't modifying my intensity. So I think that whatever camp you're in right now, that you believe that it's the best.
Starting point is 00:55:27 First of all, like I always say on this show, more than likely the best thing for you is actually the opposite of what you're doing right now because you're probably pretty adapted to whatever it is you're doing. So I don't care if you think you respond better to splits or you think you respond better to full bodies. If you've been running one or the other
Starting point is 00:55:41 for a very long time, the opposite probably right now is one of the best things you could do. Now the problem is, whichever direction you're going, whether you're going from a split to a full body, if you're going from a split to a full body, you need to learn to back off the intensity. And then if you're a full body person and you're going to a split every muscle,
Starting point is 00:55:58 you're probably gonna have to pick up the intensity because you're only gonna get to hit that muscle once, maybe twice in a week. So, the other thing, too, to consider with hitting more, a body part more frequently or doing a full body, is the exercise selection tends to change. So, again, if I'm hitting my chest, and I'm doing 15 sets for chest,
Starting point is 00:56:18 and I only hit my chest on Mondays, let's think of all the exercises I'm gonna do for those 15 sets, right? I'm gonna have two or three bad ass ones in the rest of the fillers. Yeah, I'm probably going to do my bench press and my incline press, but then I'm pretty fatigued by that point, so it's going to be a bunch of machines and cable exercises to make up those 15 sets. Now versus hitting chess three days a week and doing five sets each day.
Starting point is 00:56:39 So remember, same total volume. So I'm still doing 15 sets for the week. The difference is now I've split up the workout. Well, when I go into the gym and I know I only have five sets, I'm still doing 15 sets for the week. The difference is now I'm split up the workout. Well, when I go into the gym and I know I only have five sets, I'm going to pick the big gross motor movements. I'm going to pick the big bang for the buck type exercises. And so people also tend to do more of the effective exercises because they have more energy in their
Starting point is 00:56:58 gas tank. They have, they're not as as fried as they would be with a typical body part split. The other thing to consider is this, there is this, most of the stimulus that you get from a workout is localized and focused on the area that you're working. So if I work out my legs, most of the muscle building stimulus goes to my legs, okay? But we do know that there's also this systemic effect
Starting point is 00:57:23 and for people who've never worked out their legs, and then all of a sudden they work out their legs, first thing that they'll notice is that arms grow too. Like what the heck's going on? I'm doing everything else the same except I just threw in some leg exercises. Now my chest, the arms, and back are growing. I feel like, and I would love to look this up at the law of
Starting point is 00:57:40 radiation, like, yeah, or irradiation I should say, you know, covers a lot of that just because it helps to explain how other muscles are still contracting and stabilizing and also like contributing even though your main focus is the legs. Well, they've known this for a long time with studies where if they'll have people exercise one arm, most of the strength gains will go to that one arm. But some of some strength gains will actually go to the other arm Even though the other arm hasn't been exercised and so what is how does that apply here with the with full body over split? Well when you're working your full body you are sending the loudest overall
Starting point is 00:58:15 Muscle building Annabolic, you know central nervous system Signal because you've trained the entire body in that day if you're in the gym and you're only hitting your chest, shoulders, you're not going to get as loud of a systemic muscle building effect. And so, look, my best estimation is this, if I were to take 10 normal people who all want to build muscle, eight of them will do better on a full body routine. I would say a full 80% just do best on a traditional three day a week, hit the whole body, one or two exercises per body part type of routine. Now that there's a lot more complexity in that,
Starting point is 00:58:56 of course exercise selection and tempo and how you phase your workouts and then of course you'll feel if you want to go and really have something that's programmed even better than you have programs like maps that most of our maps programs tend to be full body. Although we did write a split routine because there is some benefit to maybe backing off a little bit on the frequency so rather than hitting the body parts three days a week, you're hitting them twice a week but you're doing more volume within that workout.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I think Adam hit the nail on the head, you stick to one for long enough, you go to the other one you start to notice some benefit. Right. And that's where I think we created the second program. And I would love to challenge the people that are listening right now that are in one of those camps to go outside of that. And we do. We have a program on both sides.
Starting point is 00:59:38 I mean, most of the programs are based, like, you know, maps green, red, and black are all based around the full body type of routine. But we did create split for that reason that, you know, if you've been running a full body for most your life or most your training career, or even in the last year or two consistently and you've made your way through like red, green, and black, I would highly recommend going to a split and seeing how your body responds. In vice versa, if you're somebody who's been living in the split forever, I think
Starting point is 01:00:07 one of the best things that you can do is go to a full body routine and do that for a while and see how your body responds. The thing that just reminding you of the biggest thing that I've had to coach to is the intensity. It's got both of them have to change. No matter what direction you're going, you've got to modify that. Either you're ramping it up for somebody who is dropping down to less frequency or you're decreasing it for somebody's doing it more often, right?
Starting point is 01:00:33 Next question is from Kristen AML. What are your best tips for focusing on the mind muscle connection? Mind muscle connection. This refers to your ability to isolate or contract and feel a particular muscle. Well, that's why I think isolation exercises are great for this. That's the best if I'm going to nail it down to like where the focus should lie. It's now let's consider single joint movements. Oh, absolutely. I remember, you know, when I was younger, it was really hard. The last part of my body, I was able to know, when I was younger, it was really hard.
Starting point is 01:01:05 The last part of my body, I was able to really feel when I worked out with my back. I could feel everything else, you know, after about a year of working out, I could feel my chest when I bench press, I could feel my shoulders when I do overhead presses and of course, quads and hamstrings and glutes when I do certain leg exercises. But when I would do back exercises, it was kind of hard to feel. Part of the reason is I think we don't see those muscles contracting. Looking at a muscle, by the way,
Starting point is 01:01:30 really helps with the mind muscle connection. So I remember I do things like pull ups and rows. And, you know, I feel a lot in my biceps and my forearms. And I knew I was working my back, but I couldn't really connect to it. And the first time I ever felt my lats was when I did a superset where I did dumbbell pullovers, which is generally an isolation exercise for the lats,
Starting point is 01:01:55 much more so than, let's say a row or a pullup, and then I went straight to pullups, and then all of a sudden, I could feel a pump in my lats. Now, once I felt my lats, then I could feel the pump in my lats. Now, once I felt my lats, then I could feel the more with each subsequent exercise. And I wanna make that point because some studies have shown that priming a muscle before a lift
Starting point is 01:02:14 does not activate it more. However, they are completely negating the psychology of why you prime a muscle before you in order to feel it more. Like if I have a client who's doing squats a particular way and she's like, I don't feel my glutes, then I do a bunch of isolation exercises so her glutes get really, really, really, you know, start to burn and get a little bit of pump. Then she does squats.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Now she can feel what her glutes are doing. That's going to help her connect to the glutes during some of these exercises. That's going to affect her mechanics in that exercise because she can feel the process of that where the recruitment of it is contributing. And I think that that matters in terms of, if it's all quad driven and you're going down into a squat, the limitation of maybe your depth, or even it will affect all those things like just having that Connection that that feeling of of responsiveness from where you're supposed to feel it, you know muscles contributing I have a couple thoughts on this. I think that it I think it really doesn't matter and I think it matters a lot
Starting point is 01:03:19 So I think it doesn't really matter if you're somebody who doesn't really care as much about doesn't really matter if you're somebody who doesn't really care as much about aesthetics and trying to sculpt and shape your body. Because you can for the rest of your life, get under a bench press, muscle it up, and not try and isolate your chest and your shoulders will contribute a lot, your triceps, your back contributes a lot, and you're going to build muscle. You're going to burn calories, you'll burn fat, you'll build muscle, you'll build a stronger stable, stable body. But what I've really enjoyed about competing was the aspect of almost sculpting your physique. And for example, I can take a lat pull down and I can make a lat pull down super focused like on my rear delts by keeping my shoulders in a rolled forward position.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Yet, it looks to the average person totally normal, but because I allow the scapula to roll forward and keep it forward while I'm doing the lap pull down, my rear delts take over a majority of that movement. Now, some of my backs still kind of works and my arms are working too, but because of that, it's gonna start to develop my rear delts more than my last. And then I can take that same exercise and just purely retract my shoulders
Starting point is 01:04:32 and now most of the lats take over. Now think about that. If you do that every single time you work out, you can start to develop parts of your body more so than others and you can take exercises and you can make them be more for a certain muscle than another muscle Even though the body doesn't isolate a single muscle so even when we talk about isolation exercises It's impossible to isolate a muscle your your body will always be using an antagonist and there'll also be other secondary muscle effects
Starting point is 01:05:00 Quite a bit more right studies will show that you can use more of one muscle over another simply by knowing how to feel that muscle. Right, yeah. I can do a row and I could barely grab the bar, have a lightweight, make it feel so heavy because I don't engage my biceps. I can actually do a row without engaging my biceps. I can make a row more rhomboid dominant
Starting point is 01:05:23 and then I can make a row more lat dominant. Or more bicep dominant. Right. Yeah, I just look at it as like, do I want to build my body off of like compensations and get excellent off of like, would I can already compensate and make happen? You know, I could get this weight up without like,
Starting point is 01:05:39 you know, any certain like specific pathway that's like the most optimal. Or can I build my body off of the most optimal mechanics involved with that process and really connect to that process? Yeah, and look, there is a general, I think, benefit to being able to connect to your muscles. It gives you really good body awareness. It really does.
Starting point is 01:05:58 I mean, I've done, I'm not by any stretch of the imagination, a flexible individual. I've done yoga classes, maybe a grand total of 15 times of my entire life. But when I do do yoga, which is very, very seldom, I've instructors have commented that I have really good body awareness, even though I'm tight and I'm not able to get in certain positions, they could just tell me to move a particular muscle or squeeze this or activate that. And I know how to do it. I have really good body awareness because I've been focusing so hard on muscle mind,
Starting point is 01:06:28 on my muscle connection for so long. So I do think there's some benefits. And of course, if you're listening because you wanna sculpt your body and focus on an area, that's where the real value lies. Now here's some tips. Isolation exercises at the beginning of your workout. Now this isn't the most effective way to build muscle,
Starting point is 01:06:46 but this is a great way to feel the muscle that you're not feeling. And so in that particular scenario, I would tell people, do your isolation exercises first in the workout. Like if you don't feel your chest when you bench press, do some really good slow flies, then go bench press, you're gonna feel your chest.
Starting point is 01:07:03 That's, this question would have been better asked if it was more specific to an exercise because we could talk all day on this topic, but I could give you even more specific answers. If you said, hey Adam, I'm having a real hard time connecting to my triceps. I'm having a real hard time feeling my chest when I work out, hey Adam, I'm having a really hard time
Starting point is 01:07:20 feeling my lats. And then I could give you specific exercises that I think you should do before we start the normal routine. Because if you have a hard time engaging your lats and you do like, you know, really heavy bent over rows, that's not a great exercise for someone who's having a hard time utilizing their lats in a movement like that. I would start them in like a single arm cable row where I can help them really exaggerate the movement, go really light. Another tip I like to give somebody when we're trying
Starting point is 01:07:49 to isolate or feel or get a better connection to a smaller or a specific muscle is to go really, really light and then pause at the end of the rep. So whatever I'm trying to feel, I gotta wait so light that I can kind of pause and hold in that position. And just squeeze. And just squeeze the muscle I'm trying to feel, I got to wait so light that I can kind of pause and hold in that position. And just squeeze. And just squeeze the muscle I'm trying to think about the one that I want to work. I'm going to just really squeeze it and think about it with that. And it's
Starting point is 01:08:12 hard to do that with a heavy weight or a weight that you have to keep a tempo that is a faster cadence. Do something that's so light that you can pause in that area and think about that muscle. Slow tempo. Ben Pekulski actually pointed that out. He said that the place where people have the worst connection to muscles that are lagging or whatever, is at the shortened contracted position.
Starting point is 01:08:33 So it's the squeeze that's most important. But I'd say isolation exercises first, Adam gave a great tip, go light, focus on the squeeze. The other thing is look at the muscle you're trying to work. So if you're working here's do help in this situation. Yes, watch them. So even if I'm bedspressing, look down at your chest and watch your chest work.
Starting point is 01:08:52 It actually helps. If you have a training partner, have them place a finger or two on the muscles you're trying to work, getting that touch feedback helps tremendously, I have to do this with clients all the time. And I think that's it. I think that's all, oh, and also lastly, if you go on Google and look up the action,
Starting point is 01:09:09 what is the main action of a muscle? Once you understand the main action, you can envision what the muscle's doing as you're moving. So if I know that the pecs bring my humerus, which is the top of my arm, closer to the midline of my body, I know what part of the bench press I need to focus on. It's not the pushing up the bar, it's the bringing the elbows in I know what part of the bench press I need to focus on. It's not the pushing up the bar.
Starting point is 01:09:25 It's the bringing the elbows in. Part of the bar. Next question is from Dill's Law. What are your thoughts on lifting weights while pregnant? Hell yeah. The best possible. That is one of the best things you could do while you're pregnant is lift weights. It's, you know, maintain that strength and ability that you've put in.
Starting point is 01:09:43 There are issues with insulin sensitivity issues that can happen with women when they're pregnant. And muscle is one of the greatest protections against having those issues. You wanna have that muscle? Dr. Lyon's episode is live, right? It's already up, right, Doug? Yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:09:59 So it's up, that's a great episode. We touch on this and that. I mean, she talks a lot about that. And obviously Katrina and I on this and that. I mean, she talks a lot about that and You know, obviously Katrina and I discussed this a lot and I think it's crazy I mean, Sal recommended the the business of birthing or whatever it was Yeah, the business of being born and and one of the things that I remember my buddy who just Is him and his wife just had their kids. There's two of them and they talk about you know when she gets It's the epidural right that numbs, when she gets, it's the epidural, right, that numbs them.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Yeah. So when they got the epidural, she says like, all of a sudden, I couldn't feel my lower part of my body. And so right away, knowing what I know about like my muscle connection and being able to activate a muscle, if you can't feel it because it's numb, it's really tough to activate and fire it or know if you are squeezing or fire it. So it's crazy to me that we do that. And you have somebody who's an average person who probably takes off training during pregnancy
Starting point is 01:10:51 or they don't train it all even before pregnancy. And so they have a really bad disconnect there as far as those internal muscles in the abdominal region and area and the pelvic floor. And then you ask them to push, okay, that's already challenging enough, and then you give them a drug that numbs that? Like, are you kidding me? So I think the training, you know, when you're pregnant is, and she talks about this
Starting point is 01:11:14 in that episode, you know, around those muscles during that time is extremely important, because you want to be able to... Strengthen the pelvic floor, you work on your core while you can as the baby grows, you're not gonna be able to do core exercises floor, work on your core while you can as the baby grows.
Starting point is 01:11:26 You're not going to be able to do core exercises. Strengthen your hips and your legs. Another thing that happens when you get pregnant is certain hormones start to improve or increase flexibility in your joints. And hips get a lot more flexible because they have to. They do. Now here's a problem with that. If you're not strong and you all of a sudden become more flexible, now you increase your
Starting point is 01:11:48 risk of hurting yourself. You see a lot of women hurt their backs or their hips start to bother them. You want to be strong. You want to be really, really strong. It also is good for the baby. Obviously being healthy and being able to respond well to insulin and carbohydrates while you're eating, you know, while you're pregnant.
Starting point is 01:12:06 All these things benefit the baby as well. But at the end of the day, if you watch a birth, I've seen two of them, and especially if it's a more natural birth, that is a, it's a long thing. It's a hard, long thing, and you want to be strong for that process. But besides all that, besides the actual process of giving birth and all that, if you want your body to bounce back, I can't think of anything better that you can do than lifting weights. I've had lots of female trainers that have worked for me and I've had quite a few of them while they were working with me for me, get pregnant.
Starting point is 01:12:45 I've also had aerobics instructors and some of the gins that I manage get pregnant. And the difference between the trainers that are just, that like to lift a lot of weights, the difference in speed and how fast they bounce back versus the, it's very significant. Oh, it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Oh, look at our, you know, our girl Grace Barga. I mean, you guys want to see someone who's like, popped out the kids and then like right back to her. She went to later, she looks like she didn't even have it. Yeah, right, Primo Fizikrite after. I mean, we had her shoot the, the math program, what was it? She wasn't that far that long.
Starting point is 01:13:13 It was like one year's old. Yeah, not even, I don't think would she've been shot even thus. Yeah, yeah. And that's a lot of the, I remember watching her videos why, you know, she was, you know, deep into her pregnancy and squatting and overhead pressing and rowing and still training.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Because the key is, and I think the mistake that happens is I think most people are realizing importance of training while they're pregnant. But then the problem is a lot of them weren't doing it before. And then now they're like serious, I'm having a kid. That's not the time to go. It's crazy shape. It's not.
Starting point is 01:13:46 And what I'm learning about what Katrina's going through right now, first hand, the first trimester is, it's crazy, you know, and it made me feel good after we talked to Dr. Lying, because she was talking about how, you know, she's inconsistent, never missed more than two days in a row before. And she's like, I can't believe how fatigued I am.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I can't believe how nauseous I am. She's like, this first trimester has been so hard. It's interesting to see, especially with a lot of type baby, who people are really on it all the time, like how that first trimester really knocks them on their back. Yeah, Katrina has struggled with, because she's normally super consistent. And she's been pretty good. I mean, she's making it in there, but I mean, I can tell that she's...
Starting point is 01:14:26 She don't feel like it. Yeah, she just doesn't feel like it. And I'm really patient with that. Like, I don't wanna be telling her what she needs to do. She needs to listen to her body, you know, all those factors need to apply. And like you said, it's not about like trying to improve. It's about like maintaining the strength
Starting point is 01:14:41 and the abilities and like, that's what you wanna carry in with you. Yeah, I've always, it always blows me away. I've also had lots of clients that I've trained before, during, and after pregnancy, actually, over the last 15 years I've trained about five of them. I'm still in contact. Their kids call me Uncle Sal now because they were literally, you know, I trained their mom while they're pregnant and then they were born. Then they bring their kid in so I could swing their baby in the chair or hold them while their mom worked out. I used to do this all the time, I used to love doing it.
Starting point is 01:15:09 But their moms would bounce back so quick and it was so funny. Every single one of them told me how shocked their doctors were. Like, man, my doctor can't believe I'm already working out and I've already looked the way I do. And it's like, it's the strength training, man. All of every single one of them worked out
Starting point is 01:15:24 two or three days a week with me. Like none of them were these hardcore fitness fanatics. We just built a really strong base with weights. And so it makes a tremendous, tremendous difference. It's the first number one thing I recommend to pregnant women is, before you get pregnant, develop a good base with weights, and then maintain lifting weights
Starting point is 01:15:42 throughout the entire pregnancy, as long as you can, of course, don't hurt yourself and don't push yourself beyond what you can do. And then you'll be blown away how fast you bounce back. Next question is from eBroga06. Can you speak about the Brittany Don fitness scam? Oh, wow, I've been getting a bunch of DMs right now. Dude, so I feel like we're at the beginning of a huge social media influencer backlash.
Starting point is 01:16:10 I feel like fire. Fire exposed a lot. I think that started a little bit of a trend. I think people now are starting to give or start a backlash because even before that, I mean, look at, and I don't know how much we played a role in this or not, but like you saw like, you know, not Joey Schwil with the Devin Fiseaks, I think that got exposed in terms of like the coaching.
Starting point is 01:16:34 And, you know, the promise of all these things not getting delivered, and there's this huge backlash for that. And then you saw that sort of trickle out amongst influencers. Yeah, she has a huge Instagram page, like half a million people on all her platforms or something like 800,000. And apparently what she did, she sold all these fitness programs
Starting point is 01:16:54 and she promised them to be individualized and they weren't. She promised to be in contact with people and she wasn't and people were just not happy at all with what they were getting and they, I guess they formed a group and there was a YouTube video and now it's blowing up and I think she's getting singled out because she's not the only scammer. Oh, of course, yeah.
Starting point is 01:17:16 There's a shit ton of them. I think she's being made an example of to be quite honest. But I don't even, it's just like consumer beware, you know, this is the type of stuff. It's like you gotta ask yourself, why was I buying this? And I don't even know if,
Starting point is 01:17:31 I mean, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. So I don't even know if this is like, as much of a scamming thing as it is, you think you've got this great idea. You take sexy pictures of yourself in front of your car, in your bikini, people wanna look like you. You cool little motivation stuff you grow your following to a half a million or a million people And you see that people buy digital workout programs online and you can make a lot of money doing it and you start doing it And you think that you can provide a service and because you've probably never built a legitimate business or at least that legitimate business and know what that entails.
Starting point is 01:18:07 And the floodgates open up and you don't know how to scale. Exactly. I think that's what happened at Devin Fazika. I think that she was onboarding so many people that they probably had the best of intentions like, oh, I'm going to create custom plans and I'm going to talk to all them. They're just too stupid to realize like, oh, what happens when 5,000 people buy this? Oh, shit, I need like a whole team to do this. Yeah, what's gonna happen?
Starting point is 01:18:28 And then what ends up happening is they're probably just giving people whatever they can to just to give them something and they're scrambling to stay alive. And I think that's just poor management, poor leadership, poor business, just they don't understand that. And that's, we're in this world now of this Instagram and Insta Famous, where, I mean, I get it now on a very regular basis.
Starting point is 01:18:52 I was just talking to somebody via DM and they were asking me, hey, you know, I was, should I get a certification if I'm just gonna be an online coach? And I was like, wow, this is crazy. You know, like this is happening where, that's the thing. They don't even do it in person. And I was like, wow, this is crazy. This is happening where, nobody even did a person backwards. It's like backwards of the pyramid.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Like not only are you considering not getting a national certification. So it's like now. Not only are you considering not being educated in this arena, but then in addition to that, you were gonna just skip the whole process of what it would be like to coach somebody in person. They look dude, unpopular, you know, and I can sell. So why like to coach somebody in person. Look, dude, I'm popular.
Starting point is 01:19:25 You know, and I can sell. So why don't I just do that? Exactly. That's what's happening. And I think we're seeing it like crazy. And it wasn't evidentable that it would get there would be a backlash. I mean, I remember even, I mean, today people ask us, I just turned this down again on the forum.
Starting point is 01:19:41 Like, how come you guys don't do nutrition program? Well, you know why? Because we're smart enough to know what scaling that would look like. We cannot handle that. Yeah. Do you know what it would take to customize a real nutrition plant? I know what it takes every time, because you know why? I've done fucking tons of them. When I've sat down and wrote a custom meal plan for someone, you have to modify that. It takes tracking on there and tracking on your own. I mean, we're trying to reach the tens of thousands and millions of people, even with the staff that we have, we couldn't do a good enough job for these people. So we stayed out of that arena.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Like, we don't wanna go there because we know that we couldn't fulfill the needs of all those people. Yeah, you know, it's, you're also seeing now on Instagram, when people post, I just started seeing this now, well, no post like a mention, they have to put in there that it's a sponsored ad, whereas before they didn't have to do that, because I think they're afraid of being liable,
Starting point is 01:20:33 which is fine, this is all a market response. What I don't wanna see is regulation around this, like I don't wanna see, because I could hear people being like, you know, there should be a regulatory agency that you have to pass through this and learn. A different body for all this stuff. I don't feel sorry for people when you get scam,
Starting point is 01:20:49 I'm sorry, and maybe this is where I know I lack empathy, but if you are allowing some girl who you've never met in your life who takes pictures in front of her Range Rover and in her bikini and because she has a before and after picture and you just based off of that you're going to ask nutritional guidance and advice and you're going to ask training advice. I mean shame on you. It's the same thing for me. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Tell a evangelist. I'm sorry, but you deserve what you get. You pay for what you get. You don't say, and that's all you were looking for for
Starting point is 01:21:25 qualification, like, I don't feel sorry for people that fall into these scams. I want, if I'm going to pay for a service, it's no differently. If we, there's a picture of a guy right on Instagram, and he's in a lab coat, and he has a stethoscope, and he just takes all these cool pictures of like checking your heartbeats all the time.
Starting point is 01:21:43 And so then also I'm asking him medical questions, and I gave him a bunch of money to solve some medical problems. For $300, I'll do heart stuff. Right. And just keep right. You know what I'm saying? Are you kidding me? Like that's not enough, that's not enough for me to take those.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Well, it's people are starting to understand what social authority, the distortions of social authority. Like in the past, in the past, if you knew that there were half a million people who were following and listening and attending to somebody's words, that usually meant that they were good. That's what it usually meant. True, true. True.
Starting point is 01:22:19 True. True. And that's what's confusing. It's like you see someone, well, they have all these followers, they're making these good videos. They had the blue check. And so it looks, it's, it's, it's, they look awesome. So that's confusing. You see someone, well, they have all these followers. They're making these good videos. They have the blue check. And so it looks, it's, it's, they look awesome. So that's something. It's distorting our, our understanding of real authority.
Starting point is 01:22:32 So it's like, well, they look legit. They have all these people. Well, no, it's different now. It's a different world now. Now, well, if you want half a million followers, you just got to be kind of hot, post-Samashthot. It's different and it's the same still, because something is still true,
Starting point is 01:22:47 and that is, you know, people buy from people they like. And some of these Instagram influencers have done a really good job of being likable. You know, I'm cute. I just wish they'd stick with the pet rock. Yeah, I mean, like do something like that that's not gonna like harm people. It's, we're gonna see a backlash. It's not gonna last very long. I agree. The people making money doing this, that's not gonna harm people. We're gonna see a backlash.
Starting point is 01:23:05 It's not gonna last very long. They're the people making money doing this. It's not gonna last that long. People are starting to, social media's new enough and all the stuff is new enough that people haven't learned their lesson. Five or 10 years, you're not gonna have a career unless you're really providing good value.
Starting point is 01:23:20 My advice to people are this, look, if you want, first of all, the best thing to do is if you're referred by somebody who's already had a service from that person, they say it's good, that's the best. But if that can't happen, look at the content that they're producing, look at the stuff that they're providing.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Are they already providing you with a tremendous amount of value that's free? Because the more free, good quality information and value that you get from someone, the more likely that they're probably gonna put time, energy, and effort into the value that you get from someone, the more likely that they're probably going to put time, energy, and effort into the thing that's paid for. You see what I'm saying? Like, if a person has a YouTube channel, they've got blogs, they're offering you free guides,
Starting point is 01:23:55 you look at their information, wow, this is really, really good. And you're absorbing all this free stuff and they're putting a lot of hard work into it. Then the odds might be a little higher that they might be kind of legit. And of course, you could take it a step further, what are the qualifications, what have they done, who have they worked with? Are they certified, are they experienced, do they have a degree, I mean, all that other,
Starting point is 01:24:14 you know, normal stuff? And then kind of take it from there, but we're in a strange time, man. It's a strange time, there's a lot of pages with millions of followers that appear to have real value and authority that are complete idiots and morons. They just are. They don't have any real value
Starting point is 01:24:32 when it comes to nutrition and fitness. I can pull up a 10 of them right now if I wanted to. Well, I guess maybe that's, I think too, there's this, and there's always been this perception. So it's not that much different than having a gym, right? I remember when I'd get a client that would come in and they want to buy personal training and then they want one of my trainers and the way they would if I allowed them to pick if I lined my trainers up all the buffed one they would pick the one that looked a certain way and Honestly of most of my staffs nine times at a 10 my buff is trainer was never my smartest trainer was never my best trainer.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Just wasn't he or she was really good at getting themself in shape, whether that because they had insecurities, they were neurotic or they were discipline or whatever, but they had definitely hacked the formula to keep themself in shape and good for them for that, but they weren't the best communicators, they weren't the most knowledgeable, they weren't the most experience, and that's just becoming exaggerated now in the Instagram world. There's that same perception of, because you see somebody with their shirt off
Starting point is 01:25:33 and they take professional photos and they're jacked and they're ripped, you assume they must know a lot about metabolism, they must know a lot about nutrition, they must know a lot about working out. And the truth of the matter is, no, that's not a good indicator. It isn't at all.
Starting point is 01:25:46 All it means is that they have figured out what to do for themselves to get in or to maintain that shape. It does not mean that they will be good at advising you in any sort of manner. So you just buyer beware, man. You gotta watch out for this shit. Yep, yep, and with that look, if you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can download any of our guides for free.
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