Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 981: How to Break Through Training Plateaus, Fixing Skin Issues, the Truth About Energy Drinks & MORE

Episode Date: March 6, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the best way to break through a training plateau, the effects of daily consumption of energy drinks, the best way to approach nutrition with a family member who had a serious health scare and if skin issues like acne automatically indicate food sensitivities. Coffee + NED = Perfect combination. Why being hyper wired is NOT always good for performance. (5:00) Does cannabis help cure cancer? How at the end of the day antidote is not evidence. (8:07) Mind Pump Recommends Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse and Green Book, now streaming. (15:15) Why Sal couldn’t sleep two days after watching Free Solo. The guys breakdown the types of people that do these kinds of feats. (17:45) The benefits of being able to test yourself at home, using tests from Everly Well. (27:38) Why individualization is the future (i.e. the A.I. Diet). (35:25) #Quah question #1 – What is the best way to break through a training plateau? (48:21) #Quah question #2 – What is your opinion on frequent daily consumption of energy drinks for people that are into training? Especially the zero calorie ones with taurine? (59:10) #Quah question #3 – What is the best way to approach nutrition with a family member who had a serious health scare which was likely caused by years of poor awareness and food choices? (1:12:24) #Quah question #4 – Do skin issues, like acne, automatically indicate food sensitivities or do caffeine, stress and lack of sleep all contribute as well? (1:19:15) People Mentioned: Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Dr. Michael Ruscio (@drruscio)  Instagram Products Mentioned: March Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic is ½ off!! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** NED   **15% off first purchase** Everly Well   **Code “mindpump” for 15% off any test** WHO | Cannabis - World Health Organization Why CBD Oil Is Basically a Scam - Muscle For Life Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (2018) Green Book (2018) Free Solo on iTunes The Dawn Wall The Rise of Superman: Decoding the Science of Ultimate Human Performance - Book by Steven Kotler Joovv  **MAPS Prime w/purchase of $500 or more and free shipping** The A.I. Diet Healthy Gut, Healthy You – Book by Dr. Michael Ruscio Mind Pump Free Resources

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Is it just Spider-Man? Yeah, it's just Spider-Man. Anyway, it was awesome. Then we talked about the movie Green Book and the documentary that gave me anxiety for two days in a row Free solo that shit was crazy. I hope we can get that guy on the show. That would be awesome It gives me tingles then just then talked about his vitamin D test From Everly well the according to the test he needs more D go ahead and say it

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bowl, those kinds of things. Like, are they good for you? Are they bad for you? Should you switch the coffee? Find out in that part of the stuff. News flash, it's not water. That's it. The next question was, what is the best way to approach nutrition with your family members who are in poor health? Like, how can you get them to move over to the good side because they're on the dark side? What can we do? Slap their belly.

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and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Dude Adam, I see you drinking coffee, you know, all the time now, and adding some net in there. Is that help it taste better? I see you drinking coffee, you know, all the time now and adding some Ned in there. Is that help it taste better? I know Courtney for, I've been trying to get her consistently to take it because it's been doing wonders for her and her thyroid and everything, but she can't stand the flavor. It's like, it tastes too much. I hate to say it, it tastes a little bit like weed. Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's

derived from that, right? So of course, you're gonna get that flavor a little bit, and you're supposed to let it sit on your tongue. So for me, if I'm, if I'm having it's it's derived from that right so of course you're gonna get that that flavor a little bit And you're supposed to let it sit on your tongue So for me if I'm if I'm having it in the morning, which I actually did today I will have it and then I'll drink my coffee and it actually goes really well coffee. Oh canabino I told you guys this a long time ago Where was it that I gave you guys when we were out in I already know discovery bay was it discovery bay? Yeah, that was the first time that we did that. There's an interesting kind of love that. Yeah, when you combine cannabinoids with caffeine

and the way that the liver process caffeine, it creates this interesting kind of duality. Like you got the wired feeling from the caffeine where you kind of feel up. And then the cannabinoids have that endosolidic kind of calming effects. You get this smooth focus, which this is a good

actually good topic. I think a lot of people think being hyper wired and hyper up is what is good for performance, but that's actually almost as bad for performance as being like fatigued and tired. And I know you guys have experienced this. You ever been you ever get too psyched up with too many stimulants and you get exhausted. Then you go workout and you get tired. And I know you guys have experienced it. You ever get too psyched up with too many stimulants and you get exhausted. Then you go workout and you get tired at a breath or when you're too psyched up and you're trying to read something and it's like your scatterbrain, you're all over the place versus the alert calm focus that gives you that good performance. Right. You notice the total difference if you've gone too high versus the added because then it can last a lot longer too.

I feel like if you hit that spot. Now, you mentioned with with Courtney and her thyroid, are you talking about because the it helps her with the anxiety? Yes. Yes. Yeah, that's one of the main things that I've noticed. That's the the feedback I'm getting from a lot of people is the the hemp oil is helping them with just feelings of anxiety.

Right. And so that's the thing too. And I was wondering because I mean, she still drinks coffee and been trying to lower that two together because I mean, she's not quite on the level, not even close on the level there. Or I'm at. And that's something I've been working on. But her intake has been a lot less. But usually at night she'll take Ned, but then in the morning, she's been starting to take

Ned. So I didn't know if like, maybe I'll try that. Maybe we'll do first thing in the morning and try and introduce it that way. Yeah, I literally, I drop two drops underneath my tongue while I'm like my coffee's being brewed, so I mix my coffee, pour my coffee, it's setting under my tongue, and then that first sip when it goes down,

it just mixes well coffee. I don't know, I don't know. You're doing the strong one. The 15, I don't know. I am this time, yeah, that's why I'm only doing two. Big difference. Yeah. You can feel it. Yeah, no, it only takes, the other one I was having to this time. Yeah, that's why I'm only doing two different. Yeah, you can feel it. Yeah, no, it only takes the other one I was having to do like four drops. At least drop or folds or whatever.

Yeah, full drop. And I like to now that net actually has the their it's measured now, right? You guys noticed that the droppers actually have no say. Yeah, yeah, the original ones didn't and you were just kind of like guesstimating where now I can be a little more precise. It's an interesting, this is going to be an interesting time because I was just looking at some of my investment in my portfolio. One of them is GW pharmaceutical that makes CBD medication. So epidiallex for kids with epilepsy or people epilepsy, they're also using it for certain types of pain. I think they're starting to market it towards or testing it

for anxiety and all that kind of stuff, but that's a medication. And now you have how hemp is legalized and hemp contains CBD along with other cannabinoids and now you have companies producing that. How is that gonna work? You know what I'm saying? Because you have the medicinal version,

which is prescription only and expensive. And then you have, and I think that's why the FDA has, is having an issue with companies saying CBD, rather than saying hemp oil, I remember saying that. Yeah, not to use like CBD title. Yeah. Is there any fear for you being that you, you have stock and GW of that actually kind of hurting it a little bit because that was probably a big reason why they've been driven up lately is. No, no. Because they were one of the first to really start to move in that direction. Yeah, no. There's so much hype around cannabinoids and cannabinoid research and just cannabis in general. That alone, I think it's very speculative. So I'm not saying, you know, go do this.

But I think because the very speculative, so I'm not saying, go do this, but I think because the hyperlone gets it to increase its value, because everybody's excited about it. The other thing too is I know what the research, what research is currently doing, and what's, I'm predicting what's gonna come out. What's exciting to me, and what I'm betting on is the cancer research with cannabinoids, because I've seen preliminary results,

I've seen research on animals, I've seen in vitro research, I've also seen red tons and tons and tons of anecdote, and even the American Cancer Association says that cannabinoids have a favorable effect on cancer. I think, and I don't know if GW pharmaceuticals are gonna do this, I don't know what company's gonna do this, but I think, and I don't know if GW pharmaceuticals are going to do this, I don't know what company is going to do this, but I think at some point they're going to show

cannabinoids being high dose cannabinoids being a very effective adjuvant therapy to with chemo. So like instead of taking X amount of chemo for your cancer, you can take much less, throwing lots of cannabinoids and it's more effective. So that's the mitigate some of the side effects. And the side effects also. And whether or not that's gonna make be a blockbuster in terms of treating cancer, just imagine the headline, you know, cannabis does help cure cancer, something crazy like that.

That'll just blow the little effect. Have you and Matthews discussed this very much? Cause I know where his stances on on his he Matthews is very you know his stance is just based off of exactly what the specific human research shows and he's right the human research is you know limited like like treating it you know epilepsy right now is the main application in medical research for CBD in particular, but I'm looking at all the other stuff on top of it. So I like to look at, I mean, at the end of the day, anecdote is not evidence, but when you have lots of people,

and when I say lots of people, I mean, I mean, tons, there's forums dedicated to some of the other effects of CBD. I've also noticed the effects on myself with just CBD, and this is even before I use temp oil on my gut health. And then of course, with a company like Ned, now we have people writing into us saying, oh, it helps me here, it helps me there. I'm very, very positive. I'm very, very positive.

But yeah, Mike is very much like, if it doesn't say specifically in the research with human studies or whatever, then I'm not positive. I'm very, very positive. Yeah, Mike is very much like, if it doesn't say, specifically in the research with human studies or whatever, then I'm not gonna support you. That's the area where he's kind of like Lane, right? Where they're both kind of like that. Similar, similar. He's just not, you know, Lane can be a dick sometimes. It's a people, Mike doesn't try to be that way to people.

Yeah, and I sums it up. And I actually really, I mean, Mike wrote a really good article on it. And I thought it was really good, you know, because I do believe that, you know, even us, like I kind of feel it sucks because, you know, we were working on Ned shit almost a year before it even happened. We talked, we came out on the episodes, first 10 episodes. I think we discussed this. And we also called that it would turn into what we're seeing happen right now, which is it's

now becoming the cure all for everything. The magical pill. The magical pill. It sucks because I feel like it devalues the partnership that we created and we work so hard to get by finding somebody like Ned. It's because by no means does anybody in here think that you should be taking it every day for all these other weird reasons and think it's gonna give you a build,

a bunch of muscle from it and it's gonna give you this amazing sleep. It's like there's applications for it and I think that there's... It's like any supplement, but there's two things that I think that will hurt the hemp oil market. One, number one, this is the big one,

is you have a lot of companies who say, hey, this is our hemp oil, it's got lots of cannabinoids, it has great CBD, it's gonna work great for you, has none of those things in it. There's no testing, there's no regulatory agency, there's no independent labs have gone out and tested these hemp oil companies and found little to no cannabinoids.

So that'll kill it because what'll end up happening is someone's gonna people are gonna try all these other hemp oil products and be like it did nothing for me and they're gonna write it all off forever. And if there was ever a supplement where it makes sense to you know pixie dust It's this one because marijuana is not cheap to get your hands on or and and and or to extract it from it. You mean hemp. Yeah, it's not it's not at all. Yeah, no, it's not it. You want efficacious doses of cannabinoids You have to do a very good job and it's gonna be expensive. It's not cheap So when you buy a protein powder that says you know now with CBD or pre workout with CBD

You know no if it has any CBD it has not enough to do anything, and it probably has none. And that's the big thing. The other thing that I think is gonna kill people is focusing just on CBD. As that CBD is the, the cannabinoid that does everything and all the others don't matter, what the evidence is showing so far is that

there's an entourage effect with cannabinoids, where it's not even additive. So in other words, it's not like you get the benefits of CBD and let's say CBC for example, which is another cannabinoid. It's not that you add the benefits when you combine them, they seem to multiply, they seem to work better

when they're all present. And real good, hemp oil extract has a full spectrum of cannabinoids like the one that we're working with Ned, they test them at the end of the lab and they have, they show you all the cannabinoids that are present. It's a full spectrum of hemp oil and it's funny because that's just the way things that work well and nature tend to work well that way. You know what I'm saying?

Extracting vitamin C from a plant and taking it probably won't be as good for you as beneficial as getting the whole plant and eating it with won't be as good for you as beneficial as getting the whole plant and eating it with the vitamin C and other bioflavenoids and things in it that seemed to you know work better in the body. So that's you know my two cents on that. Yeah switching gears a bit I this weekend a little rainy weekend so Katrina and I were in we watched I watched two movies that I had been told to watch that I hadn't seen yet. One was the cartoon Spider-Man the most recent one. Oh, dude. How'd you like it? It incredibly wasn't a great so good incredible the way they did it like a comment. I wish I was on shrooms

That I don't know man. Oh man. That would have been a blast. I tell you what You know, it's it's it took a minute to kind of get into it because it was so unique and so different. So it was done like a comic book. Yep. The whole thing, I felt like I was reading a comic book watching it. That's a spin-off on Spider-Man

is that whole alternate universe thing, right? Right, you know? It was really, really, really well done, especially for a cartoon. And that's why I waited. I don't have kids. And so it's not like I was gonna go to the movies to go watch a cartoon, but I know, you guys had said it, other people had said it, and it was.

It was phenomenal. So if you haven't seen it, I think it's worth watching, even if you don't have kids. The second one that I watched, holy shit on Matt, I didn't go watch this. And the reason why I didn't watch this movie was because the preview sucked on it. And so if you've clicked through on Apple, or if you almost went and saw this like, I did, because I saw the reviews and the reviews were stellar on Green Book. But the hype video, the previews to get just this didn't. What's it, Green Book? Green Book. What's it about? Movie the air. Got me. I'm going to say, I don't, I don't, yes, I was,

Yeah, I'm not heard of it. It just came out on Apple. It was in the theater. And it was always like, I think it was like 87 or 90 on, on Rotten Tomato tomatoes. And Katrina and I kept talking about going to watch it. Every time I watched the previews, they just didn't tell the story enough. They didn't sell it well. Yeah, they didn't sell it well at all. And so what's it about? So it's a true story. And it is a, it's based in 1950 something. It's a black pianist and he hires a white driver. Oh, I saw the camera.

I remember seeing the... Oh, they didn't celebrate. Bro, epic movie. It's a must watch. It's really, really well written. It's, the acting is incredible. The store, it's a true story. Great, great movie.

I can't believe that I had not gone and seen it, but I know why because every time I look and it got amazing reviews, so it's obvious why it was so good. But you know, the previews are just kind of like, I'll get around to it. I'll watch it. And we just didn't have something else to watch. And we watched it. And Katrina and I both looked at her like, Oh my God, that was such a good movie. Mm-hmm. Well speaking of movies, I watched Free Solo. Oh, you finally watched it. Which, you know how you don't like... Are you terrified of heights?

Well, you okay. So you know how I'm always trying to get Adam watch scary movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's always like, nah, makes me too anxious. Yeah. Okay. That's how I felt watching this.

I don't get like scary movies, excite me. This, talking about it, no joke right now, talking about it, because I just watched the end of it the early this morning. I see the goosebumps on your face. Bro, my hands and my feet were sweating like crazy. You're not feeling you getting your feet

where you're like they start to tingle. So tingly. Bro, how crazy. I don't even want to talk about it. Yeah. First of all, the guy, so you watched it, right? Yeah, we're trying to track him down. Okay, we're trying to get him down. I'm just gonna guess he didn't die. So I'm not gonna ruin it for you. This first of all the guy. So you watched it, right? Yeah, we're trying to track him down. Okay. We're trying to get him down.

I'm just gonna guess he didn't die. Um, so I'm not gonna ruin it for you. All right. But the dude is legit. Um, he's not, he's very intelligent. But he's, he's, when they do the brain scan of them, they find out why this fucking guy is so driven. This is crazy. Doesn't he come off a little someone else autistic? Well, I Well, I was gonna say, being Ben Greenfield-esque. But. That's it. Oh my gosh.

Just on the spectrum, a little bit different, you know what I'm saying? But brilliant, you can see his mind working, he's a really intelligent guy. Well, as he's doing this, right? So he's free solo and he's the craziest rock climber of all time and does this all without, you know, he's known for doing shit without any safety. So like if you he's dying, he'll die if you fall. In fact, that's one of the most dangerous things in the world that people do. So some of the best free solo climbers ever are not with us anymore because they died. That's how crazy this sport is or whatever. And so as we're watching it, Jessica's like,

she's like, what would drive somebody to do this? This doesn't make any sense. And so as we're watching it, Jessica's like, she's like, what would drive somebody to do this? This doesn't make any sense. And we're trying to figure this out. And when you see this guy talk, he's kind of weird. He's kind of off, super smart. So you're kind of like, well, he is kind of weird. But why would he do this?

They did a brain scan and MRI of him. And they're flashing images in front of his face. No, no, they're flashing images in front of his face. And the, what they're doing with this test is to try and see in front of his face. No, they're flashing images in front of his face. And what they're doing with this test is to try and see how parts of his brain react to certain images. And the part of the brain that the, what's it called, amygdala?

Amygdala? Oh, amygdala. The amygdala in his brain, it takes way more stimulus to get that part of his brain to light up. Normal stimulus that would get that to light up in my brain or your brain, his is off. So this guy literally is numb all the time.

So he's just seeking that. He feels nothing. So like if you hug, when you hug your wife for your kids and you get that warm feeling, he's probably like, blah, nothing, not wakes up in the morning, nothing, you know, almost got a car accident, whatever, nothing, not wakes up in the morning, nothing, you know, oh, almost got a car accident, whatever, nothing feels nothing all the time. Yeah. Huh.

And so when he climbs, this is his way of feeling alive. And that's why he's not terrified. It's because in order for him to even feel okay, he has to literally put his life at risk, which I love that they did this part in the movie because it really does explain a lot of these people because you got to think That's probably one of the things that the all of them have in common. Yep. They probably have and you know There's obviously probably a spectrum and he's on the extreme side of it But the people that seek these types of things that's gotta be it is that the way their brain is relaying it to them

It's just they need that to get that same except the same excitement that you or I get when we go over a little rollercoaster Hill, you know that that's exactly that's enough that you or I get when we go over a little rollercoaster hill. You know that that's exactly that's enough for me like, oh, that was really fun. But even more than that, it's that he probably feels nothing normally. Right. So imagine if the only explains his personality and it does. It totally does because imagine if you felt nothing all the time and the only time you felt something was you're yeah, you'd have to you would seek it out right to just create

it's insane. And when you look at the video, because I've been to Yosemite a few times, by the far the most beautiful place, I've ever been to, ever in the world. But that wall of, what is it, Al Capitan? Yeah, it's insane. It's a massive, how big was it?

It's like vertical, right? It's pretty much just, it's just three. A whole face of it straight up. I wanna see it. How many thousand? I wanna see it three thousand something. No, I think it's, no like vertical, right? It's pretty much just three whole face of it straight up. I wanna see. I wanna see it. I wanna see it 3000 something. No, I think it's way more than that. But the way he had to climb it was just,

and there were two or three parts on the wall, where people fall and he's like, he couldn't figure it out and he's trying to come up with strategies, but he's so neurotic about it. He was literally reciting 7,500 feet. Wow. He's, he's, he's, in his mind, he's telling, he knows every single part of it and like,

oh, put right thumb here, left toe here, push off here, and it's all like detailed and just insane. Wow. Guess how long it took him to climb the whole damn thing? Three hours, right? Three and a half hours. Yeah, that's correct. You know, it's 3, 3000 is there's, I think 3000

of like sheer flat wall on it. There's a crack. There's one point he's just climbing a crack. Yeah, the whole way. It's crazy. Cause I remember people climbing it, but then they would bring like a tent that they would like spend the night up there.

It's been the night. Yeah. So watch in this order. I know Salah watch Free Soul and they're both great. So it doesn't matter, but watch Don Wall first and then Free Soul because the guy who he brings along, that's the guy who's in Don order. I know Salah watch Free Soul and they're both great so it doesn't matter, but watch Don Wall first and then Free Soul because the guy who he brings along, that's the guy who's in Don Wall. So the guy he starts, his training buddy who motivates him the whole time, Don Wall is about the first climb that he did up. He's the one who first made

this guy even think that this was possible. But he did it with, with gear though. Yeah. Yeah, because this was the first, but it's free to watch. All right. I actually think the Don Wall guys more the story is cooler. Well, if you're the first guy to even map out how to climb out. Not only that, I don't, and I won't ruin it.

There's something that happens to them and you're like, get the fuck out of here. It's crazy, as I'm watching this, I'm thinking to myself, like, cause these kind of people do exist in the world in different degrees, right? People who need to seek out. Well, I was just gonna say too,

like, I mean, it's a totally different, like dark path, but like sociopaths, like they don't feel like empathy or, you know, like, they don't connect to people like the same as the rest of us. So they try and like seek that out certain directions and obviously it doesn't always go in a great way. That's a good point.

I wonder what the connection would be between the two or what's different between them. Cause obviously he's not a crazy killer. He's a good person. I'm sure it's access to like a little less from a different part of the building. Yeah, well, you know, as I'm, and by the way, the types of people that do this,

that do this extreme, crazy, ridiculous shit, that requires a few different things. It requires number one, a relationship with fear that is not normal, totally different from any other healthy relationship with fear. They have a type of focus that is neurotic. It's totally unbalanced. Like this guy for eight years dreamed about climbing this

and lived in his car and traveled the world climbing boulders and that's all he did. Like writes notes on it, visualizes, talks about it, practices does nothing else. So that's like the first time he like felt something, probably when he was like climbing and then had like a dangerous encounter. He gets to the top of this, okay.

Now if I climbed the El Capitan at the top of it, I would probably ejaculate. I don't know, I'd be so excited. I would not stop. Yeah! The mic is just so... I would definitely celebrate. I'm not sure if I would do that.

Trust me, you would. There's people just down the bar. Yeah! Oh God! Yeah! Why? Oh, sound climbing to the rock. Yeah. Oh God. Yeah. Why? Sound climbing to the rock. I guess he finished.

Oh God. No, he gets up to the top and he just smiles like this. And he's like, I'm very delighted. Yeah. That's exactly where it's very delighted. Very delighted. Like, motherfucker, you just climb. Right.

You just said I have a cup of tea. An all-time record and a thing that will be talked about probably for the next 50 to 100 years. Oh, but so what I'm so- What I'm gonna say is that of tea. An all-time record and a thing that will be talked about probably for the next 50 to 100 years. Oh, but so what I'm, what I'm gonna say is that the types of people that do this are disproportionately men, probably because we're expendable. So our brain, evolution allows us to do crazy shit, but there's a purpose for it.

As crazy as it is, the reason why it exists and the white people do the frickin, what are the, what those those suits flying squirrels Also like more than half of that's got a similar. Yeah, like why are people doing this at some point it was We needed certain people to do crazy shit just to get us to advance, you know these are the guys that like oh we need food Yeah, but all the food is in the cave over there with the fucking you know bears Who's gonna go in the case the outliers all do it in red line? Yeah, that need food. But all the food is in the cave over there with the fucking, you know, bears, who's gonna go in the cave? Outliers.

All the thin red line. Yeah. That rises Superman gets into all that. That's a, I mean, I think it's just a different thing. We live in a different time now. We don't, like you said, we don't have to go into some cave to get food and shit like that. So it's, so we have to find these other things

to push us to those things. Well, think of this. This is kind of crazy. In my grandfather told me this years ago, and my grandfather's an immigrant, right? He came here with my mom when she was four, and he came here, had no skills, or whatever, and speak the language.

And obviously was the first person in our family to come to this country. And he's a huge pro-America. My grandfather's always like America's greatest country in the world, and you guys are lucky to be here, and this, that, and the other. And he says that one of the fascinating things about America was that because it's a new country, if you look at all the all the nations in the world, America's pretty damn young. But he says it was built by people by it was mostly built by people who

took big risk to come here. So it's like a self-selection bias like we are the products of Took big risk to come here. So it's like a self-selection bias like we are the products of And I mean it's changing now because more and more now it's not the case right so but for a long time The people that made up this country were people who willing to make the leap took huge risks coming from other countries people who Traveled out west and you know There was no there were no roads or whatever to figure out was going going on. And they're the ones that settled and did all. And so he said, look, it was founded by all these crazy risk takers. And he said, that's why you have all these

entrepreneurs and businesses. He's like, they're all from the same kind of history. And history. Yeah, which I think is interesting. Justin, did you fix, I know you brought up on the show, I don't know if it was a few weeks ago or what when it was, but you brought up that you'd done the Everly Well Test and did the Vitamin D and you

were low. Yeah, no, I just tested again. Oh, you did. I did. And I was hoping that some of my progress was going to make quite a bit of a dent. And to be honest, it didn't really move the needle very much. Oh, I'll do it. I'll do it at all.

Not, I mean, just a couple of points, like it wasn't enough to be substantial. So this is what I found also, this is what Blume, except for mine was the Omega. So I was so under on that, and what I thought was crazy was I was actually supplementing. Now I wasn't supplementing high doses, I wasn't consistent every single day, but I was taking in my Omega three,

like I used to say, I used to like what I would do is, okay, if I didn't have fish two or three times in the week, I would take my Omega supplements, but it's looking like I gotta take it every day. Yeah, so for me too, I was thinking about it in like vitamin D, and like I, my skin and everything else too, like I need sun, like I feel like I'm already,

like I'm just always deprived of, you know, exposure, and I'm not doing myself any benefits by always being indoors and being under this fluorescent lighting and all this kind of stuff. But how much vitamin D were you taking? I'm trying to remember, I don't know the exact thing. I was only taking what I originally was taking. Suggested amount.

5,000 I use. And after we talked to Dr. Lyon, she's the one who's got me to boost up to 10,000. So when you, if you go to the doctor and they test you with low vitamin D, many times they'll give you even more, like 15, 20,000. I'm not recommending that to anybody, but see. Well, I can definitely do that.

See, here's the value of being able to test yourself. This is why I think, everly well, is tapping into a market that is, while they are exploding, and why I think Everly Well is tapping into a market that is, while they are exploding and why I think it will continue explode is because there's such an individual variance with stuff like this, like how would you know if you weren't able to test yourself regularly? And then for the average population, for the average person, there's always that barrier where, okay, I got to go to the doctor, I got to tell my symptoms, I got to get a prescription to go to the lab to do the test.

And so people just don't do it, where you can order this at home, you got it at home. Because the way I recommend people do it is, if you have, you get two, so you have one now, then one in 30, 60 days. And then test different protocols, because what may work for one person may not work for another person, like your vitamin D barely went up

and you were taking, I don't know how much vitamin D were taking. Yeah, I was just the recommended amount, so it was probably similar to what Adam mentioned. But yeah, if I could go up more and dose with that, that's what I'm gonna play with next. And then also, it's just stuck in my head to where I'm gonna be outside a bit more.

And so naturally, I mean, we're in winter and it's been less exposure, but still. Try this, try eating a high cholesterol meal and then going out in the sun, because the cholesterol is used in the synthesis of vitamin D from the sun. So I would surmise that that might help out the process. My vitamin D was, it was in bad at all, it was pretty good,

but I always supplement with it. And I've always taken cod liver oil, which is. Oh, you do that. That's what I was talking about. You're really good about doing your walks with your shirt off all time and doing shit like that. Like those are all that stuff matters, man. And I really think why mine is so bad was because I think I,

my body adapted to the amount that I got for half of my life. There's literally like, I'm right down the middle right now, because I'm coming up on, coming up on 40 years old. It was about 20 when I really stopped spending almost all of my day outside. I was always outside. I was always on the lake. I was always, I mean, shirt off and tan and like I just don't, I don't, and I can see it by my complexion.

Like I don't, my color that I have is nowhere near what it used to be in my early 20s and teens. And I think I got used to taking in so much from the sun. And then I'll send, I go to like Justin said, like the last 15, 20 years of my career now, or my life, has been in these buildings with fluorescent lights, and I'm not out in the sun at all, like I used to do that. So what, and some of the, you know, like having a deficiency, like, energy is one of those that gets affected quite a bit from that, right? For energy.

Well, vitamin D acts like a hormone in the body. And when it's low depression, anxiety, you could feel foggy, brain fog, it could affect hormone levels. So testosterone can be low. From low vitamin D, low fertility, skin issues. I mean, it's an extremely important, all the vitamins are important,

but vitamin D in modern times is, you know, this people have written books on it, how it's kind of a chronic deficiency. And it's because we don't, we're indoors all the time, and because we don't consume foods that are naturally high in vitamin D, which would be like organ meats and, you know, like, like cod, think about this, cod liver oil. This is a fish oil from the liver of cod. So it's not just fish oil, they actually take the liver out. That's where they're getting the oil.

And so in these arctic countries, in these countries that are, you know, where they don't get much sun, if you look at the traditional diets of these people, their diets are very high in vitamin D, because they've evolved to, you know, to get their vitamin D that way. And people who live in the warm areas typically don't have diets that are high in vitamin D,

but they're outside, but now nobody's outside anymore. And so you get in all these issues. Your, how does your psoriasis respond to? Well, it's in supplementing with vitamin D. When I'm on it, it's just like the Juve Light thing too. It's like when I'm consistently doing these things, I notice a difference when I fall off of it. And I think that's the thing that's important

to note with people is like, you're not gonna take a vitamin D supplement for four or five days and also increase your bench press by 500 pounds. You know what I'm saying? It's not like that. It's like it's getting your body to work more efficiently and it's something that you're obviously not getting

enough of what your body needs. And so for me, like with my autoimmune, like that's something that when I'm giving it that attention and I'm supplementing it, it doesn't eliminate my psoriasis, but it suppresses it, which makes a big difference. Then I'm not itching it. It's not getting all scabbed over.

Sure, it still has kind of this kind of pink look where I can still tell that it's there, but it's a big difference when I want it. And I've definitely connected glue into flapping that up, which sucks because I know that like, that's something that I like to like intermittently come in there, but I've now done this enough times where I've been like dialed nutritionally and then I allow I allow that in a diet And then and then it's like I now and I used to think like is that just

You know my it's in my head that I'm thinking this way. I'm like no, I've now tested this enough times where I've been perfect And then we'll have like a burger two burgers from five guys or whatever, and it's like hours later, I'm picking it. And you've compared it to a no-bun burger or a burger. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, this really highlights something interesting in that, let's say you think you have low vitamin D and you supplement with vitamin D, like you're supposed to, not retesting and not knowing that it really isn't enough, you may just think, oh, I guess my anxiety or fatigue

wasn't a result of low vitamin D because I've been taking it and I don't feel better, not knowing that, it's not enough for you. You know what I'm saying? Like you've been supplementing, you're like, I don't notice the difference. Well, it actually hasn't raised your vitamin D levels. So that's why I love testing yourself.

You gotta be able to test yourself throughout the year. Like the ones that I like to do are the, I like to do the testosterone one just so I know my workouts, my sleep, what makes my testosterone levels more optimal, what brings it down. But individualization is the future. It's this, which actually I was reading an article earlier

on a diet now, a new diet that they think is gonna be kind is the future. Actually, I was reading an article earlier on a diet now, a new diet that they think is gonna be kind of the future of diet, they're calling it the AI diet, artificial intelligence diet. And we talked about the computer chips. No, I don't even know what this is, but I hope it's like this, because I think it would be brilliant,

and it's kind of what I do manually right now, which is you assess like your foods that you've eaten over the weekend and then based off the types of food you're eating, you're going to know it's just like the way I picked my own three organized it. Well no, it'll tell you like you've had foods that are low on vitamin C, you've had you haven't had enough omega, you haven't and then it tells you like these are the things that you should be supplementing for based off of what you've consumed. Is it like that? It's similar because if you consider that, now we talk about intuitive eating.

Intuitive eating is doing what this AI diet is trying to do. And intuitive eating is really learning your body, learning what works for you, learning how to read your signals and be connected to your hunger and fatigue and your skin and your hair and all that stuff. And it takes a long time and it's an ongoing process. What the AI diet or what this article is talking about

is how artificial intelligence will be able to do this for you by measuring all these and testing all these points of data. So like everything from your person's health, lifestyle, family history, medical conditions, your immune system anatomy, physiology, your environment. But then also in real time testing, blood glucose levels and hormone levels. So now when you eat a food, it's going to compile all these billions of bits of information that would be impossible for a coach to do for you that you may be able to do for yourself

intuitively or learning, but that could also take a long time. Instead, this will just tell you, hey, by the way, when you eat, you know, if you want something sweet, here's your better options. Don't eat bananas. This is what bananas do to you. So choose figs and apples instead. Or, you know, it's gonna be better for you today

based on your current physiology because you didn't get good sleep last night. Your macronutrient breakdown should be this. Here's your food options. Here's your better options for protein because these proteins, amino acids affect you in this way. This is what affects your digestion. It's going to be all so individualized and all

and only AI will be able to do this. I would love for you too. It was pretty cool. Reach out to somebody who's behind it to talk to them. This would be a great interview. Well, that's very, very interesting to me. And here's a thing, there's always gonna be, it's like even the Everwell test.

I tell people to use it like a Dexascan. It's not like you can't get hung up on the exactly, oh, it said this and it was off by 2% or I had to retested this, I got my blood worked on and it's like no, use this as like a compass for you to kind of point you in the right direction. It's not, you don't need to hang on where it's like, oh, this was off by two and then you're going to get people that are going to shit on this AI diet because of course there's going to be exceptions to the rule and there's, you can't, there's things that you just, you got to

take into consideration like stress, like something, something can alter everything inside of you, immediately that you did not control, that that would potentially throw off with this AI thing that's doing well. It would always be human error to you until actually implanted. Right, right. So, you know, you know, you know,

those things like this is guides. Yeah, and stress, stress will spike your blood sugar. You get, you get stressed out right now. You tell your body, you tell your liver, to dump, you know dump sugar into your blood to give you more energy. But so check this out. In the same article,

they did, they had a bunch of 800 people without diabetes. And they had to meet, they had to meet over 5,000 standardized meals. And then 47,000 meals that consisted of their usual food and take. So they did 5,000 standardized meals that were provided by the researchers and then 47,000 meals that they just did on their own. So that's a lot of meals, right?

Yeah. And they, there were over 1.5 million glucose measurements that were made. You know what they found out of this? This is the trippy thing. What? So what they found was the biggest determinant in the blood glucose was not the food itself. It was the gut bacteria. That was the biggest determinant in terms of how a person's blood glucose response was

for a food. So it wasn't so much cookies are going to cause this in you. It was your gut microbiome, you know, microbiome is going to determine how your blood glucose responds. Healthy gut this in you. It was your gut microbiome, microbiome is going to determine how your blood glucose responds. Healthy gut, healthy you. How crazy is that? But, yeah, we're so far off from the technology, but at some point it'll be like that

where you'll have an implant in you that's measuring hormones, measuring maybe something you swallow that stays in your gut, that's going to measure your microbiome, you know, your blood glucose or whatever. And literally in real time, you'll eat and it'll say to you, you should probably stop eating this and that or here, why don't you get this food and look up, what's an ideal meal meal for me right now in your app? It'll say an ideal for me right now.

You say the other... You say the other... You say the other... You say the other... Grow like a beneficial bacteria that they'll end up sending to people's like a probiotic, you know, that will like, well, this particular strain of bacteria will get you lean and, you know, have all these like beneficial traits to it and you want to like

repopulate. I think they're going to go and try, I think it's way more complex. I know, right. But if we could, of course, did you imagine that if you just take a pill and it would replace your current microbiome with this new one that's beneficial for all these different things? Yeah. Absolutely. Do I, are they going to make mistakes on one the way? Sure. I think they'll be like, here, take this pill. Oh, awesome. I feel so much better now. It'll react differently

to different people. Yeah. Oh, no, you're a zombie. Yeah. Well, we're cool. But anyway, so the future is this individualization of diet, of, you know, exercise. I can even foresee AI helping people with workouts. Imagine if in real time while you're working out, the AI will be able to tell you, do one more set. Or the right dose of stress, like, it'll just tell you your parameters.

How rad would that be? It would be awesome. Imagine if your AI machine, which was super accurate, was telling you, no, you need to do five more sets of squats in your tire. You have one power bar for longevity and then one for performance and you're kind of fluctuating. Yeah, at some point, it might even be like that.

But then I also think for that advanced, we probably won't need to work out. It'll just create the right cascaded events in your body for it. We'll just be floating on it. It'll be interesting. I think it'll be good for the person who's, who's getting into it. Because I think part of what has made mind pump successful is us discussing like to, or speaking to the general population. We were just talking about this yesterday with Taylor

that a lot of people in our space are really speaking to themselves or like this elite group when you think about the real hardcore serious workout people. But one of the things that we knew when we came to space was to try and really address the average person that doesn't really love to work out. They don't have this passion to train in the gym five, seven days,

but they want to be, they're aware that they're not in a healthy place and they want to be healthier. They want to do it the right way. And so I think that addressing those people, I think this tool like this is going to be incredible for someone like that. That it's like, hey, it's going to give them all the information that they need that will be truly beneficial to them. The only thing it won't be able to do is make them change behaviors. That and let's be honest now okay all of us sitting in this room right now who have trained we've all trained a lot of fucking people. Is it really

the information that's that's if it is a lack of fucking people. Is it really the information that's, is it lack of information you guys think that's preventing people or do you think it's the fucking behavior changes? I don't, but I do think that the first step in changing behaviors is awareness. So I think that there is a big chunk of people too, though they're just not aware at all, have no idea.

And if you, something like you brought a good example, like if you just knew that you're the, but instead of having the banana having an apple and a fig would affect you this much or this much better than it would be if you had a banana. I think if people were just aware of that, they probably would still have a banana. I would hope so. But how many people know that a slice of pizza is worse for them than a salad or something like that. And yet they still choose. You know what I'm saying? Like that's the part that's going to be really tough. That's why it's not it won't be game changer. It's not going to come in and change the world and we're not going to illuminate obesity like at the end of the day there's there's still people that are doing things to their body. They know damn well that it's not ideal for them. I think it'll be game changer for the for people who do the short, like, I'm going to

get shredded real quick or I'm going to, like, you'll still see the yo-yo stuff. It'll just be more effective. Oh, I think it's going to be, I think the person is like the one who's who is aware that that shit and they want to make the change and they're, they want to make the right steps because what we've seen in all the years we've been training is what's really common is there's someone who gets to a point whether it be a tragic thing that happened in their life or they got results back from their doctor and they're like oh fuck I need to make this change and they have they've made the decision their mind like no more of the pizza no more doing the shit and then the mistake they make is they go from one extreme to the other they go all in

they go all in to insidine everything yeah Yeah, and that's just, that's really, really tough to maintain that. And I was just going back and forth in a DM with this lady. And it was, I got to read this now that we're bringing this up because I just feel like these are my favorite on these type because I know there's a lot of people that listen this and they just, in one year out the other. Just wanted to let you know that I may F 45, you know people that listen this and they just in one year out the other. Just wanted to let you know that I'm a F 45,

you know, that class and hit junky converted over to maps and a ballock. I'm just moving into phase three and I'm loving my results. I fought for years doing hit to get these results. I've gotten in a legit handful of weeks. It was a big adjustment for me to let go of the hit mentality that unless I'm dying and sweating, I'm not getting results.

I love it. I'm a marketing rider by day. So if you're looking for a guest blogger to ride or anything like that, let me know. I would love to. This program's been amazing. Thanks for the great program. You guys are great. That's awesome. Right. But I feel I feel like the convert. I think that's the more common person is somebody who's aware that they need to make better choices and they've been marketed to a certain way. And so that's the idea that we are mean the marketing that we see in our space that's so common is the eat less, exercise more, the motivation hype, the no days off, the beast mode,

the leg memes that are going out there, there's these high intensity group training classes that are all hyped up with loud music and energy. It's like, that's just not for 90% of the population. It really isn't. Yeah, it's weird. The challenge is always gonna be how you get people to, even with the right information to add here.

Yeah, not just adhere, but fundamentally, I have a cousin and I brought him up a long time ago. He's actually visiting right now for Italy's staying with my parents. This kid lost 200 pounds, okay? On his own. He didn't do any gastric bypass, he didn't do anything crazy,

and it was literally an epiphany that he had. He went from eating tremendous, tremendous amounts of food. I mean, when you have 200 pounds to lose your, this is a big, big dude. Cause now, what is he? He's one like 180 pounds now. So he was a big dude. He just had an epiphany and the epiphany was,

he wanted to come visit America. And oh, you know what it was? His mom was taking him to go get a gastric bypass surgery and on the as he went up there they were talking about all the different complications and stuff and he saw the stress it was placing on his parents and he just said that's it I'm gonna do this on my own and he literally decided that moment then he decided he wanted to come to America lost a bunch of it came visit us went back to the lost a bunch of it, came, visited us, went back to the rest of it, and now came back.

200 pounds on a zone, and it was all with the most rarest way you see people do. He just, that was it. He just changed his mind. And I talked to him about it, and he talks about like it's no big deal. And I told him, like, do you realize how rare that is? Like nobody ever does it that way.

Like, what was it, and he he goes I just decided I mean just crazy Yeah, right? It's just absolutely insane. We do have that kind of power. We do we just forget This quaz brought to you by organify for those days you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition Organified fills the gap with laboratory tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health a performance the added edge The first question is from Island Inversion. What is the best way to break through a training plateau? This is the the the big question that a lot of people in fitness will have because at some point whatever you're doing I don't care how great it is or how effective it is. At some point it will simply stop

working for your body's just gonna stop responding. And I can't think of anything in fitness that's more frustrating. Like it's so frustrating to be the kind of person that's very consistent, works out hard. You know, you haven't missed the workout, plans everything out, strength is going out. Yeah, everything's going up, everything's doing great.

And then all of a sudden it slows down and then all of a sudden it stops and, and then all of a sudden it stops, and you're like, okay, what do I do now? Now, of course there's a, this answer is different from person to person, so I'm gonna answer in a very general way. And what I find for most people, the problem is that they've just been doing the same thing

for too long. The focus on the adaptation is the same. That's it. What I normally tell somebody who's trying to break through a training plateau is to change your goal. So if you hit a plateau, let's say if you're a strength athlete and your goal is strength, strength, strength, strength, strength, strength, strength, and it's inevitable. If you've been following some program or some protocol for a certain amount of time,

eventually you hit a plateau. And the answer is, oh, put more bar on the way or add days to the week because you've already hit the ceiling on all those things. The answer is switch your focus. Instead of being so strength focused right now, let's switch it to something else. Work on your mobility.

And let's make that be your main focus and really improve upon that. And since it hasn't been a focus, you're going to see positive change and working on your mobility, probably get better connectivity, better joint support. And then when you go back to your strength protocol, you should, it'll help progress you

through where you plateaued before. Right, and many times changing your focus can be in something that is like almost a completely different sphere, if you will. It's ideally that. Well, so let's say that you're training for strength, like Adam was saying, which is a performance type of adaptation focus.

Maybe I, okay, now my strength isn't going up. Now I'm gonna change and try to get, try to just get leaner. Now my goal is to get leaner, not necessarily get stronger. So it's not a performance type goal. And then vice versa. If your goal is always, and here's a bigger one, if your goal is always to get leaner, not necessarily get stronger. So it's not a performance type goal. And then vice versa, if your goal is always, and here's a bigger one, if your goal is always to get leaner and you're hitting a training plateau, maybe you should stop trying

to get leaner and try and get stronger for a little while. I would say that that's probably the most common, you know, in terms of like everybody that I, like most clients I've, I've received are usually trying to get lean or lose body fat and that's usually the main focus that they're coming in with. To get them to think differently and to approach something more performance-based, a lot of times it's just that little bit of a different intent going into the workout. They start to see results almost immediately. Yeah, and it's also important to understand

that you're not gonna progress, at some point you have to stop anyway, right? So there is no such thing as perpetual progress forever. It just doesn't work that way. At some point, you have to change your relationship to exercise. So, I can't always be super hyper performance and aesthetic focused.

Sometimes the focus of my workout is simply to, the goal is to feel better during that workout or to alleviate stress during that workout. I think one of the other problems with this is constantly attaching measurable progress to workouts. And that's okay sometimes, but not all the time because you can't progress forever. Otherwise, we'd all be bench pressing

5,000 pounds of all. Well, I think you can, I think you can progress forever, just not in the, the same measurable things that we're always attached to, which is weight on the scale, body fat percentage, strength, numbers going up. Like, yeah, those are, but you can always be, I mean, part of your progress could be, you

know, improving concentration and focus on what you're doing. Or like I said before, improved mobility or improved, I mean, I believe you can progress for the rest of your life. I do. Now, do I think that you can focus just on one thing and progress on that? No, then you'll reach your genetic potential at one point and adapt to that.

But I think there's so many ways to reframe your goal or reframe what you're trying to do in the gym that if you are hitting a hard plateau, you've probably just been focused on whatever that adaptation is for too long. And the best thing, and Justin, I think hit it right on the head with, the probably the most common is my clients coming in,

trying to lose body fat percentage or reduce fat, and they've been driving at that goal for a really long time, and they are my favorite. They're my favorite to put on a bulk. Nothing like taking a girl who is already 20 pounds overweight and then saying, hey, you know what we need to do? We're gonna bulk for the next three weeks and freak her the fuck out.

But guess what? What ends up happening if you can get them to make that mental switch, focus on adding calories and focus driving like strength and saying, let's, we're gonna add calories in your diet, we're gonna get stronger over the next two or three weeks, then we'll come back to this weight loss goal. And if you can get them to make that mental switch,

it blows them away when they go back to their goal. Even if you have very specific goals, like even if I am an athlete and I wanna be the best at this particular, these set of movements, like I need to master these, there still needs to be an interruption in that where you have to take a break from you know always to having this repetitive stress that's like in a similar path. So if I were to now take a break do a different phase of a

different focus so maybe it's even hypertrophy or you know have a different goal like you said out, something like that. For me to then refocus, do something different and then come back to that same strength focus and those same skills that I wanna master, you'll find that your body's gonna respond again. And so it's like to be able to notice that a plateau is inevitably going to occur to get ahead of that is everything. Well, this was the idea behind the RGB bundle or the

original three maps programs was that you've got the first one that is the strength focused and your foundation and helping rebuild someone's metabolism and it's Lower volume in comparison to like black and then you progress to yourself to a performance based program Which is totally different than that and we're really addressing mobility and then we move into this third program Where it's aesthetics and the way we look and we're focusing on certain body parts and it's a much higher volume program and the idea is that even if Your goal isn't to be a bodybuilder, it doesn't matter. It's what that program serves to keep you from plateauing. And that's why I always tell everybody, like, even if your goal isn't to be a strong man, it doesn't mean that map strong won't greatly benefit you. I mean, look at the feedback we're getting

on it right now. People are blowing away by what they're seeing. They're starting to see PRs and lifts and see their body shaping up and changing more than, well, that's because it's so different. It's not because there's this magic sauce in the program to make you look a certain way or get strong. It's just that it's so different than how most people would train. And then it's allowing you to help to break through. Looking at the body with a holistic perspective too, like even if it's a, you know, if you're looking at all these different attributes, like if you're just solely focused on a few attributes,

you're not gonna be as, you're not collectively, you're not gonna be as great as you would as a whole if you consider, you know, filling those other cups up, you know, occasionally. Yeah, I think part of it also is just doing something different is also just more fun. I mean, the point that I was trying to make earlier is

there's also a relationship with exercise that you wanna develop where you do it for the sake of doing it, you enjoy it for the sake of just what it is. And the reason why that's important is because being goal focused is an important thing, but being only goal focused, in many times, you'll forget the enjoyment of the process of getting to that goal.

Like at this point now, I don't work out necessarily to accomplish any progress or goal. I like it, and sometimes it is, for goals and progress. But I also just like it. I like it and sometimes it is for goals and progress, but I also just like it. I also just like working out. And so that's the point that I was trying to make earlier is it is important to change up your workout, it keeps it fun, it keeps your body progressing. It's important to do it in a structured way,

so you don't just change every workout, but stay on one goal until you've kind of exhausted it for a second and then moved to the next one. Again, that's how our programs are designed, but also learn to enjoy the workout for the sake of it. Like while you're exercising, it's time to yourself. You're enjoying the process of it, it's fun. Maybe you like listening to music while you're doing it, you're off your phone,

so you don't have to worry about work or social media or anything like that. Enjoy the process as well, because always, always always, always just being focused on, I need to progress. I need to progress in some specific way that can make, sometimes make the process unenjoyable. And sometimes it can lead to, you know, okay, I'm not progressing. I don't want to work out anymore because, look, the fact that you're just moving is a great thing. But at the end of the day, yes, people listening right now most of you your body if you're in a plateau

Most of the people listening right now you will get out of that plateau Simply by changing the focus of the type of adaptation you're going to Changing it from whatever you're doing if you're powerlifting try something that's more Mobility and athletic minded or bodybuilding mind it if you're a bodybuilder something that's more mobility and athletic-minded or body-building-minded. If you're a body-builder, try going more strong-man-minded. If it's all about mobility, just try pure strength. Try the high volume, try the lower volume, try the higher intensity, lower intensity.

Stick to it long enough to get your body good at it, so you can squeeze out the benefits. But don't stay in it so long that it becomes stale, both mentally, stale, bored, but also physically stale, where your body just stops responding. And you see people like this at the gym a lot where they do the same thing over and over

every single day, and they're definitely better off than they were if they weren't doing it, but they're so stuck in the same thing that they don't do anything else that they never really get a lot of the other benefits that you can get from exercise. Next question is from Dene Jor. What is your opinion on frequent daily consumption

of energy drinks for people that are into training? Especially the zero calorie ones with touring. Energy drinks. You know, so energy drinks, largely the reason why you get energy from them is the caffeine. So I know they say I've let lots of other stuff in them, like the toreine, which is an amino acid that, you know, is supposed to improve, you know, increased certain neurotransmitter production, all that stuff. Now, it's not really doing anything for you. What you're feeling is the caffeine from the energy drink.

Now, caffeine itself is not bad if it's used appropriately. In fact, some studies will show that moderate caffeine usage may have some health benefits for the brain. That being said, boy, is there an individual variance with caffeine? It is massive. What may be healthy for one person may cause hypertension, anxiety, sleep issues, which then conspire

on to other things, other types of poor health. And so it depends a lot on the person. And caffeine is a classically addictive substance. Classically, you develop a tolerance with draw when you go off, lots of side effects, and the amount that you need to become bad for you isn't really a whole lot if you really look at the like in comparison to other compounds like a 300 milligram dose of caffeine would be pretty strong for most people, a 3000 milligram caffeine dose would kill most people, right?

So all at once. So it is one of those substances we should treat, I guess, with respect. Personally, if you like energy drinks because you like the caffeine, coffee. You've got any oxidants. It's all natural. And coffee's got health benefits.

Energy drinks don't. Nitro coffee. Nitro coffee. You get rid of that acid too, and also it's a lot easier to digest for me, especially. But yeah, that was one of my things from switching, because I used to drink a lot of energy drinks. I mean, I know Adam too, we've talked about this, but it's one of those things that, yes,

I was driven to work out. I was part of a ritual where I would go grab an energy drink and then it would provide me with just enough stimulus where I felt like now I could go power out an intense workout. I was very much depending like the performance of my workout based off of how I set myself up for that with an energy drink attached to that. And so I had to go away from that mentality for a while there too, where I would actually go fast it into a workout. I would go without caffeine into a workout and just try to not be so attached to that as

being part of the ritual of having a good workout. And there's a lot of people with who high are high stress, don't get good sleep, maybe HPA access dysfunction. Right. They should stay away from caffeine, because caffeine, it produces a stress response in the body, raises cortisol, it stimulates your sympathetic nervous system.

If you're a perfectly healthy, get good sleep, have good balance in your life individual and you and your liver processes caffeine really well. You're okay consuming a decent amount of it. Most people are in that category. A lot of people that I talk to, a lot of clients I talk to, they're sleep is shitty. They work a lot, they're high stress, and I get them off caffeine, and the funny thing

is when they get off of it, they hate me for about a month, then their body starts to acclimate and they feel way way better. It's interesting too, like how the body responds. Like if you're that type of a person where you know, you cut it out at first, you think like it's going to be super detrimental. You know, I'm not going to have good workouts. Like my bodies, you know, not going to get the right stimulus. It needs when actually you need less stimulus for your body to fully recover,

to then rebuild and then actually progress. So it's interesting, yeah, it's a great point. Yeah, and although caffeine does increase performance while you're working out, in my opinion, if the context isn't great, so if you're the kind of person that's high stress, not getting great sleep and you're pushing the limit, let's say you're pushing the limit of like too much,

maybe I'm on the line of doing enough working out and maybe almost doing too much. Caffeine may tip the scale over into the too much, too much stress, prevent, you know, good recovery type of thing. It's funny you were bringing up the energy drinks that we had when we were younger, it was a speed stack. To be stacked.

Dude, so just to give people context, your typical red bull has between 120 to 160 or 180 milligrams of caffeine. Rockstar, I think it's up to 250, right? The speed stacks that we had was 200 to 250 milligrams, because then they had speed stack extreme. Which I'm like, I'm like, I had 350. So, three so ready for this

350 milligrams of caffeine plus 25 plus 25 milligrams of a fedra alkyloids Okay, a fedra by itself is yeah, and this so now jet fuel. Yeah, I'm surprised that were Yeah, well you that you guys are asked me up you guys are doing a good job of addressing the caffeine part, but there's another part to this question that I think is important to address. And I got asked this question on my Insta story with the zero calorie drinks and the artificial sweeteners. And, you know, what do I think about that? And my response to that was, you know, what we do know is this. What I do know is that

it's not serving my body. There's nothing healthy about it. And so I think there was a misconception for a long time that these are in the health category drinks. So I think that's the first thing that what we do what we do know is it's not a healthy drink. So we need to get it's not free. It. So we need to get it. It's not free, it is affecting you. Exactly, it's not something positive for my body. So that I'm fucking fully aware of. And so the way I look at it is I know that it's not a healthy drink. But then I'm also very aware too that there are many other big rocks in my life that I need to address.

And so am I stressing myself out so much that I'll never have one of these energy drinks? No, I've openly talked about that on the show. I've talked about the way I've used Diet Coke, but I'm also not ignoring the fact that I know that it's not ideal for my body. So I think that's the answer is that you need to be aware that these zero calorie drinks, and that's not all of them. I know I'm lumping all of them in that category, but I'm thinking of like the energy drinks, and I don't know any energy drinks, especially when we talk about rockstar speed stacks, red

bold ones, you guys are talking about all of them have the artificial sweeteners and stuff inside of them. So you're getting that stuff in there. It's not ideal for me. And so I try to become aware if I allow these, and they become, to your guys' point with the caffeine, very addictive. I remember when I started drinking speed stacks

and drinking half a one was probably what I started off with, like half a one. I was like, I was flying. How many were you having a day at your peak? Four. Yeah, same here. I was drinking four a day, man. I don't know how I tolerated four. I was, I was, I was close. This is how crazy it got don't know how I tolerated. I would kill me.

This is how crazy it got for me. It got so crazy that I actually bought a mini fridge. That's like the good size, one to good size, three and a half, four feet tall. I bought a mini fridge that went into my home office. I used to drive two L.A. It's a five hour drive for us with my buddy's pickup truck. And we had a hook up down at this guy's GNC where he would actually, if we bought cases

of them, he would give it to us for like five cents over wholesale. So I was getting these speed stacks, which are normally costing people like, I think they're like three bucks each. Yeah, three, four bucks. They were for me, they were like a dollar seventy five because I was buying them by the truck load. So we would drive down there and I would come back up with like 20, 30 cases of the speed stack

and we would fill my entire fridge and then we had boxes that were warm. I don't know how we're still alive. Oh, yeah, you're here. But bro, if Fedra is what they take to make into crystal meth, you guys know that, right? Right. That's like one of the building blocks of,

now it's not crystal meth, but it works in a similar way in the brain and you're drinking four a day. That's a hundred milligrams of a federal alkaloids with a shit. I used to do the same thing. Shitana caffeine. It worked. It definitely, I want to how much. So that to me, that's the real takeaway is, I know that I didn't go from overnight going from the guy who drank half to having

four in cases in every single day. It started with the occasional one here and there to then one every day, then to two every day, and then it just leads down. And then I'm pretty sure almost even the Lane Nortons would agree that that's probably not a healthy dose of caffeine, a fedra, artificial sweeteners, right? I even think he would say like that's a little crazy. But the reality of it is, if you're justifying it as a health drink or you're not thinking that it's not ideal for your body, you might be okay with that. And then real easily, you're having these things all the time. Well, the reason people justify it is because they do the either or thing. So it

would be like this, like, oh, hey, why are you smoking a cigarette? That's not good for you. Like, it's better than four cigarettes. Like, that's a stupid argument. Like, oh, I drink this zero calorie energy drink. And I'm like, well, why are you drinking? It's not good for you. It's better than four cigarettes. That's a stupid argument. I drink this zero calorie energy drink, and I'm like, well, why are you drinking it? It's not good for you. Oh, it's better than a sugary one. Okay, that's a stupid argument. It's not better than nothing is the point. And here's the other thing we want to consider also.

We completely mitigate this. We completely separate this. The perception of sweet, even though you get no calories, even though it's coming from a chemical instead of sugar, the perception of sweet still changes things in your brain and in your body. Just the simple act of you perceiving sweet. It doesn't happen, you don't just perceive sweet

and then because there's no calories attached, it does nothing to you. Something has happened, you are perceiving the taste of sweet, and what it's doing is it's changing how you want food for the rest of the day. It definitely affects your appetite. And it changes how food tastes later on from there. Have a bunch of artificially sweetened foods,

and then go eat real food and see the difference. It kills it. And that's, God, what a great point you're making right now, because this was something that it didn't, it wasn't until I competed. So this not till I'm 30. Did this, this light bulb fully go off for me. When I had to be so strict,

I was eating nothing but whole foods, but I had ruined like that connection for myself with fruit my whole life. Like even if I had fruit, it was like forcing it down because I needed, or I needed to, or I blended it in my protein shake But I could not eat an apple and enjoy an apple. I couldn't eat grapes and enjoy grapes They weren't sweet to me and that's because I was a candy fanatic and I was drinking all these drinks like crazy

And I've I completely altered like my how my body perceives these foods And it when I went on when I went competing and then I came off and And when I went on, when I went competing and then I came off and I remember the first time, or when I was competing and I was dieting, I remember the first time I came off all the sugar and artificial says, what I meant to say. And I had the first bite into an apple. I mean, I had the first, what I thought was the first time

I had ever in my life, tasted what an apple was supposed to taste like, because I've been allowed since I was a kid. Candy like crazy, fucking ice cream like crazy, cereal like crazy, right into my high school years of all the energy drinks and sugar shit, and I mean, I was a candy fanatic. So I didn't really take my first real break.

And even as a trainer, I learned to work it in to my training and I was like, that and playing basketball so I I could afford to have it on there. And I wasn't fat. So I never, I never thought that, oh, I, I shouldn't have any more of these things because it's not causing me to be obese. I've worked it into my diet. But the major effect on me that I didn't realize until I competed was how much it had changed my connection to real-hole foods. And up to that point, dude, I did not like fruit or vegetables at all. Well, look, here's a good analogy.

Okay. If you, we've all had bad dreams, right? Where you're getting chased by a monster. Your body reacts as if there's actually a monster there. You get the chemicals, you get the hormones, because you're perceiving a feeling, okay? When you eat something, and it tastes a particular way, even if that taste is not accompanied by calories, things still happen in your body. It is not like having nothing. So when people say,

oh, it's healthy, it's great, it's a great alternative to food because it's low calorie, they're completely negating that. And all the studies show that people who consume lots of these types of drinks tend to not be very healthy. And people will say, well, it's not because of the drinks, it's because of the other food they, and they'll wait, well, obviously, obviously it's contributes. That's right.

So I always tell people, just look, if you wanna have one here, then that's fine. If it becomes a part of your daily ritual, and everything else is dialed in, you're, you want to look at fixing something else, take them out and watch the improvement in your health and watch what happens. And it may be it's something that's related, it may not be directly related to the zero calorie drink, but I think, again, you cannot separate that experience from what the, you know, what comes with the food, which is the

calories. Next question is from Mike Strength Coach. What's the best way to approach nutrition with a family member who had a serious health scare, which was likely caused by years of avoidance and poor awareness? Dude, this is such a hard one. And we've been asked at least, I would say four or five times since we've started this podcast, a question like this.

And it's been a while since we've addressed it. And I think originally I tried to find the answer for people to help them out. And the first few times we got asked, and I think they'll probably the last time I talked about this, because I think I had something really recent at that time. I had lost Katrina's father, who's now been passed going on three years that he's been gone. And I remember when he got diagnosed with cancer and being this person who has a background in nutrition and I've experienced this with other clients and knowing how this person should be eating and then wanting them to and them not wanting to. And like, fuck what do I do?

And you feel like you want to help in their family. You love them. But the reality of all of this is you can't. They have to want to make the change themselves. They have to because even if you tied them down and you force them to eat the way you want them to eat, it would never last anyways until they have made that choice themselves. And I feel like the more that you try and you force it on somebody, the more they naturally

will push it back, 100%. And the only way I have had success or seen long-term success and converting family members into making better health choice in them is to live as the example, as to be that person so much that they look at your life and they go, man, Adam, you are always full of energy and you always are fucking this and you're always this and that and then you can attribute that to your discipline to taking care of yourself.

And that's your opportunity to then coach that family member into making healthier, better choices for them. You're trying to convince them when they're not ready to receive it. It reminds me of when I, in leadership, and managing others and trying to develop them. Like if you try and point out all the flaws

that a trainer was doing, like I never would break through. It wasn't until I just tried to be the example and they would come to me with an open mind of wanting to learn what I'd be able to change behaviors. So you have to do the same thing with nutrition in your family, like until they come to you seeking that, you're never going to really change their behaviors. And so if you can't get them to come to you seeking that, you're never gonna really change their behaviors. And so if you can't get them to come to you by saying something, then the best route is to be that example for them in hopes that they do.

Yeah, there's no better way. It's really not much I can add to that. I think, you know, what's that quote? Be the change you wish to see in the world. Right. I mean, that's true for anything. It really is. Be the best version of

yourself and hopefully they'll recognize it and ask you about it and then you can help them out. I guess I think the best thing you could do It's just be there for them. Love them. Care for them. Don't judge them. You know look at the end of the day We all do stupid shit that we know we shouldn't There has to do with some, they, you know, there issue is something that you feel like you have a grasp on. So that's why you're thinking it's stupid,

but I'm pretty sure you may be doing things that they probably think is idiotic as well. So just be cool, be accepting, and just be the example. Just be the example, and at some point, they might ask you, and if they don't, don't beat yourself up for it. It's impossible to force someone, just not going to happen. You got to be careful too, because there's an area too where I think sometimes you have

to really ask yourself what your desired outcome. And if your desired outcome is to help them improve their life and the relationship that you have with them, sometimes fighting them in this area. If you look back and go like, oh my God, I spent the last year trying to get it. Yeah, it ruins it. It's like you, where you would have been better off like fuck it. They're gonna eat McDonald's and I'm gonna love my uncle. I'm gonna love my aunt for who they are and spend time and build, again, focusing on the other aspects of their life that you can, that you're a part of versus trying to fight them on what you want them to do. They got to want to do it first. It's funny because I'll have family members that I'll like push, push, push, push, push.

And then they'll go get help, fitness help from like some book or someone else. Yep. Like why the fuck didn't you ask me? 100%. And it's like, oh, I know why because I'm the asshole that's always pushing you. Yeah, I just experienced that recently. I found out my dad was doing the ketogenic diet under my nose. I had no idea. He was even like trying it out. You know, and was my mom kind of comes aside and is like, how can you help him, you know,

like keep this up or like do something similar that he can actually adopt and make practice wise. And I was like, you know, like he knows I'm there for my, I give him little bits that I know will stick. And so like one little practice that I know, like he can easily do and then he sees success in it. It's just a matter of like, he loses momentum, goes right back to the same habits,

but is more conscious every time it goes to the doctor, there's these markers that keep popping up. And there's these pills that keep getting thrown in the mix. And you know, at some point, like he's realizing that, like, nutrition is a big part of this. And so he's asking more questions. So it's not completely hopeless. And in that, they're never going to change. It's a matter of just always knowing. Them knowing that you're a resource,

but not enforcing that. Like it really like imposing, because that never sticks. You know, like so there's opportunities when they present themselves, I wanna be there. And I wanna be like, you know, hey, I'm going shopping, you won't come with me. Like my dad and I were just gonna go to grocery store.

He wanted to know what foods I buy. I'm like, fuck yeah, that's an opportunity. So you never know. This requires a lot of self work. The big work that you have to do on yourself is just to be accepting of what is. So you know, you got a family member and their blood pressure side. They just had a heart attack and, you know, but they survived and they're still eating shitty.

You just gotta accept it. Like, okay, this is their life, and yes, they'll probably gonna die earlier, but I can't control everything, so I just gotta love them the way they are, and just accept it, and that's fucking hard, because when you're with somebody that you care about, or you have a parent that you care about,

or a friend that you care about, and you see them going down this path, it's hard not to just, you wanna strangle them. No, do what I say, so that you don't have you see them going down this path. It's hard not to just, you want to strangle them. No, do what I say so that you don't have to put me through pain. You know what I'm saying? But it's their life, so it does require a lot of self work. Next question is from Corey San Moodoski. Do skin issues like acne automatically indicate food sensitivities

or do caffeine stress, lack of sleep, all contribute as well. Boy, I love, let me tell you why I like this question so much. It was always so infuriating to me, to have clients who would have all these acne issues, go to their dermatologist. Yes, and then they come back and they'd be like, well, my dermatologist says my acne has nothing to do with anything that I eat. It has nothing to do with anything that I eat.

It has nothing to do with my food. Yeah, I was like my dermatologist said about my psoriasis and you were the one who just dropped the vitamin D thing on me. I was unaware of that fucking four years ago, or whatever it was when you first said that, because I had asked my dermatologist multiple times, like, you know, is there something I can do to change my diet nutritionally that would help this?

Nope, nope. No, you didn't have a cream for that, I'm sorry. That's it, that's it. It's because the training is like, what medications can you get? What are the medical interventions you can do to solve this acne issue and they don't look at lifestyle interventions?

Now, maybe it's different now. Maybe it's different now, but it's to frustrate the shit out of me. Because then these clients, what they would do is they would clean up their diets, we'd remove certain things, we'd find food intolerances, and sure enough, light clockwork, skin, usually would start to clear up.

It would usually start to clear up. And it all had to do with, I mean, the guy listed them here, you know, stress, lack of sleep, food sensitivities. Here's the thing, like, if you have a chronic health issue, which acne is, I think you could put that in that category, right? It's not an injury, like you didn't like hurt yourself and get acne.

It's on your skin and it's chronic, it won't go away. If you have a chronic issue, then your body's out of balance. It's not, it's very rarely a genetic issue. Very rarely do it just have a genetic issue for a chronic ailment. What's more likely is that your body, like most people, and you're just off balance.

And it might be something as innocuous as, you know, something you're putting on your skin that's giving you acne. And it may be something as complex as your emotional state, you know, from, you know, something you're putting on your skin that's giving you acne, and it may be something as complex as your emotional state, you know, from, you know, can stress cause chronic health issues? You better fucking believe it. And so I'm not gonna rule out anything with stress, including acne.

And I know there's some medical professionals right now that are rolling their eyes, like, ah, stress can't cause acne. You see, no, stress can cause a lot of different fucking weird things. And, but it's just so hard to tackle, and it's just so hard to work with. I mean, you're talking about something that's extremely complex.

So, in my personal opinion, whenever you have anything that's chronic, there's just something that's at a balance and you gotta figure that out for yourself. I would start with food, because that's the easiest place to start, and maybe do a classic elimination diet where you eliminate all the common food intolerances, gluten, dairy, maybe all grains for some people.

I know Dr. Ruscio likes to put people on a low-fod map paleo diet. That's his elimination diet starting point. So you could start with something like that and then gradually reintroduce foods and see if something, you know, things pop up. Here's the thing with acne though. Acne takes a while to go away and it takes a while to surface. So it's not like you eat something today. Some people do this. We'll eat something today and break out tomorrow. But many times it takes like a few days to a week for you to notice things. I know with, go ahead. Oh, don't you see like typically acne coming about around the teenage years where you're

like getting this huge influx of hormones and like this change of hormones is pretty substantial. Is that where like typically like the most of the times you see it start to arise or is it like? Yes, but I would... Individual variants. Yes, but I would like to see, I would like to control for other factors. So I wonder how many teenagers would have all that acne if they were eating really well,

getting good sleep, getting good sunshine, you know, good activity. Would we still see, you know, it be as bad as it can be? Because some of the medications for acne are, I mean, like, what's that one that you take? To actin. No, what's that? Corrective.

No, not prog. That's a commercial brand. God, what's the one? The prescription drug that you'll get at the dermatologist that you'll take orally. And one of the side effects of it is like it could completely wreck your gut. Like people develop gut issues afterwards and all kinds of other immunist uses as a result of it.

Is it written, what's it called? Look up acne medication, Doug, so I know what I'm talking about. Some of the side effects of that are fucking crazy. That's an interesting theory that you have that you think that there's a possibility that we would see potentially a dramatic difference in these teenagers if they weren't, because let's be honest too,

a lot of the really bad food choices you're making around that time. I mean, you're taking fire, you're junk food. Fire, ice cream. Acutane is the drug I was talking about. Oh, I agree. Yeah, Acutane has got some pretty nasty side effects. And they'll give it to these people.

They'll take it and it gets rid of their acne and they're like, oh, but the side effects of it are pretty nasty in the long term effects. They've connected it to some pretty bad shit. They're considered antibiotics. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I believe Accutane is a antibiotic if I'm not mistaken. Oh, I didn't know that.

Yeah. Anyway, I really do think that there's just a balance issue. I think here's a thing. If you have Acne, Acne is a really, and I know it can be painful to have Acne because it's your image, right? How you look. But it's a very visual, clear representation of there being something at a balance.

A lot of people don't have something that's quite so visual, and it's something a lot worse. So when I used to get clients who come to me like it's my acne, they're like, okay, cool. We're dealing with something that we could see that's not gonna kill you. So let's see what we can do to make that better. And in my opinion, elimination diet,

that typically will nip it in the bud. And then if it's not that, then it's getting more sunshine and getting better sleep. Usually the combination of those three in my experience, and again, I'm not a dermatologist. I'm just a personal trainer but in my experience, the people that I've worked with have seemed pretty big improvements. I know my girlfriend Jessica, she identified, took her two years to identify what the hell

was causing her skin issues and it was chocolate and peanut butter. Those two foods right to her to my, you know, she was super pissed about that because that's her two favorite things, especially together. But it was hard for her to identify and we did a whole elimination diet and there it was. Well and the question is is it the chocolate and the peanut that's causing the acne was the chocolate and the peanut that's potentially upsetting her gut because it's getting through and then that's something inherently wrong with those foods.

Right I think that's what but I think it's important to say that on the podcast people understand that because I think there's all there's like these ideas that certain foods cause acne, where it's more likely that it's what it's gonna be individualized for that person. It's whatever you probably have a intolerance to, then is what flares up, and that's a response. It's kind of like my, my psoriasis, right? It's, I notice with my psoriasis that there's just, there's certain foods that if I allowed in the diet

It flares it up and when I'm eating really clean and all whole foods. I noticed I don't I it doesn't it keeps it suppressed Right. Yeah, so if you develop an intolerance to food any food can start to do that I had a client who got Exima from bananas and it took us fucking forever to identify it We had to do elimination elimination elimination and we got him we got him down to a few foods that he was eating. Eximus started going away, then we reintroduced his banana, and we were all like, well, fuck, there you go. It's the bananas that are causing that. It's not accepted right now, though,

in Western medicine mainstream. So 100% guarantee you right now there's you know doctors listening and You know skin doctors listening who are like ah that's all rubbish and that's all bullshit Five to ten years you won't be saying that I guarantee it'll be mainstream. It's like it isn't already so And with that look if you go to mindpumpfree.com You can download any one of our guides for free. In fact, you can download all of them for free. We have guides that teach you how to squat more weight, build better legs,

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