Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 986: How to Overcome Food Obsessions, the Dangers of Chronic Undereating, Keys to Becoming Successful & MORE

Episode Date: March 13, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about escaping the “living for the weekend” mindset when it comes to food, how to get clients to eat more when they severely undereat, how to define and achieve success and the times they have failed clients. What is the ‘Halo Effect’ and how does it pertain to celebrities? (5:18) Health IQ by state: How someone’s knowledge about fitness and health can correlate to their health literacy. (12:27) Justin’s upcoming ‘jet fighter’ experience + when was his last physical?! (16:15) That one time Sal had a bad prostate exam + will Adam finally get that coffee enema if he loses the contest to Ben Greenfield? (18:20) Updates on Adam’s swimming protocol: What currently has him excited + has he seen any detriments to his weightlifting? (20:40) Why Justin is trying to be more ‘powerful’ when it comes to his training. (24:40) Why Sal is going ‘keto’ again. (28:07) The benefits of chaga and its immune modulating effects. (30:37) In other news: Jewish diamond tycoon dies in penis enlargement operation. (33:39) The woman and homeless man plead guilty in $400000 GoFundMe scam. Why these scammers are affecting people with real issues. (35:35) When will wars be autonomous? US Army assures public that robot tank system adheres to AI murder policy. (39:10) Sal’s daughter signs up for her first 5K. (41:52) #Quah question #1 – How to do I escape the “living for the weekend” mindset when it comes to food? How can I find more balance? (44:32) #Quah question #2 – How can I explain to clients that they will have better progress if they eat more? (55:24) #Quah question #3 – What do you consider or define successful? (1:04:24) #Quah question #4 – Have you ever felt like you failed your client as a personal trainer? (1:12:47) People Mentioned: Ben Greenfield (@bengreenfieldfitness)  Instagram Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne)  Instagram Products Mentioned: March Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic is ½ off!! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Health IQ  **Free Quote** Four Sigmatic **Code “mindpump” for 15% off** Leaving Neverland | Documentaries | HBO - HBO.com Jewish diamond tycoon dies in penis enlargement operation Woman and Homeless Man Plead Guilty in $400000 GoFundMe Scam U.S. Army Assures Public That Robot Tank System Adheres to AI Murder Policy The Complete Contest Prep Guide | Biolayne The Dawn Wall | Netflix Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mite, ob-mite, up with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this super awesome episode of The Mind Pump, look, for the first 39 minutes, we do our introductory talk. Before we get into the fitness questions, here's what we talked about. We talked about Michael Jackson, gosh dammit. And the Halo effect.

Why do we worship celebrities? Why do we always think that they're supposed to be better than they actually are? I think it was his moonwalk. Then we talk about the health IQ of each state and the life expectancy of each state. Now a health IQ is a rating you can get by the company, health IQ, they provide amazing life insurance

for fit and healthy people. What you do is you go on their site, you take a test and you get a health IQ, and that's how they determine what your life insurance score should be. And the crazy thing is, they did a test with all the states and found that the states with the higher tests

also had higher life expectancies and spent less on medical bills. In other words, the more you know about fitness is strongly correlated to your life expectancy and your health, they have figured it out mind blown. It's pretty crazy. If you go to healthiq.com, forward slash mind pump, you can get a free quote and take your own health IQq.com, forward slash mind pump, you can get a free quote and take your own healthiq quiz. Then we talked about Justin's pending physical. He's about to get a physical,

because let's get physical. He's gonna fly in a jet and we're teasing him because the doctor is gonna put his finger up his butt. He is not. Then we talked about Adam's swimming again, but Justin's power training, Justin just wants to get powerful. I'm gonna get powerful. I might be going keto with my diet.

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He died getting his penis enlarged. Man, kind of sucks. Then we talked about the irony. The homeless $400,000 scam, those bastards. We talked about the robot tank that the military is testing. And then we talked about how my daughter is entered her first 5k. I'm so excited. Then we get into the fitness portion of this episode. The first question was, how do I escape the

living for the weekend mindset when it comes to food? A lot of you are really good with your nutrition Monday through Friday, but then Saturday, Sunday, come along and all hell breaks. We give you some tips and tricks on how to avoid that binge property that happens on the weekend. Next question, this is a personal trainer asking this question. They have a handful of clients who severely under eat in an attempt to lose weight. How can we help this person convince their clients that they need to eat more and build some muscle

so they can get to their goals and be healthier and happier? It's more fun. And the next question, what do we consider or define as being successful? How do you define success? What does it mean for us? And the final question, have we as personal trainers ever felt like we failed our clients, spoiler alert, we failed a lot of them.

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You just woke up. Ha, ha, ha, ha. All right, our winners are this week. We had very few reviews because we were recording this episode early. For iTunes, we got KT Collins and for Facebook, we have Johann Hubeschmanman Both of you are winners in the name. I just read to iTunes at mine. Put media.com send your shirt size your shipping address Include your Instagram handle and we'll get that shirt right out to you Did you did you guys see that with Michael Jackson? I heard you guys here. Did you hear that Adam? No Michael Jackson apparently they're talking about closing down his place.

So I don't know what the whole deal is. They're selling it, they were bin selling. So what's the whole deal? Was there a documentary that came out? Yeah, there's a documentary, I guess, on the HBO that just came out, so I'm gonna have to watch it. About people who he, like, molested in shit when they were kids.

Fuck, I don't wanna watch that. Why? It's gross. You know what, yeah, it is terrible. Love his music. You know what? I don't wanna look at it. So this is a- It's terrible. No, I have to feel it's terrible. Love his music. You know what? So this is a sterile one.

No, I have to feel the same way too. This is actually a good topic. Have you guys ever heard of the Halo effect? So the Halo effect in psychology talks about how as humans, when we see somebody that's really good at something, we automatically assume that they're really good at everything or they're really good people. Like if you see a businessman who's really, really smart at a particular aspect of business,

you think that they're gonna be good at all aspects of business or they're gonna be good fathers or they're gonna be good mothers or they're gonna be good people. This is why celebrities have so much sway over us because here we have a celebrity because they're famous for singing and performing like Michael Jackson, incredibly talented performer.

Yeah, one of the best of all time. And people don't wanna know that this guy was a fucking creep. He was a predator against children. It's hard to hear that because your brain automatically assumes it's Michael Jackson, he's a good guy. When you hear some of these stories, because I heard some of them, you can't believe some of these parents

would even let, like, there was one kid that he met and Michael Jackson became friends with us. He was like 10 years old, not even, six years old or something like that. And he invited the mom over with the kids and the mom left the kids with him and he slept with them

because he's Michael Jackson. She just trusted, oh yeah, yeah, here you go. Go spend the night in his room with him. You know what I mean? That's crazy. It's crazy, but it's something that's important. We talk about because. I also think it's even crazier that,

because someone of that much fame, that big, that much power, that much money, how much of it too was covered up. Like you have a team. A lot of it. Right. A lot of it was covered up. That's, you gotta know that, you know, whatever's leaked out,

what goes through my head is like, wow, it's got to be 10x this because you don't get that far in life. You don't have that many people surrounding you and protecting you. And I can't help it. Yeah, I can't help but think of Bill Cosby, you know, and all that stuff too as well. It's like you, the moral, like you looked at him as like being a moral example, you know, and all that stuff too as well. It's like the moral, like, you looked at him as like being a moral example, you know, in that community and like it comes out way later that, you know, all that, like, just droves of women talking about like. Now, did you guys ever feel as a kid? I don't know where, why for me, but I've never looked at celebrities this way.

I just, I've never looked at the, I actually see somebody and if I see just excellence in something, I automatically assume that they're way out of balance somewhere. Somewhere. Yeah, just automatically go, and that's not to take something away for them and be like, oh, just cause he's a great actor or just cause he's a great musician.

I'm hating and I think he's bad. No, it's just a fact. I mean, normally when you become so obsessive in an area, something else is out of balance. Something suffers. Yes, it's give and take. That's true. And so when I see excellence, I don't praise it. I'm enamored by it. I think it's like, oh, wow, that's really cool. He's super talented snowboarder. Oh, really cool. He's an incredible musician. But I don't like idolize them because I know for sure, I'm like, that's great. He's a great singer, is he a great human?

I don't know. I don't know enough about him to even think that. So, and I would assume that there's other areas that he's probably fun. I get so annoyed when I get lectured too by celebrities on TV or social media telling me, this is what we need to do to, I like the ones that do the preaching about

saving the environment, get all my nerves the most, because you see these celebrities talking about lowering your carbon footprint and do this that. And then meanwhile, these people own homes that and yachts and private jets that produce more carbon, have a larger carbon footprint than me and 5,000 of my friends. For you, for a lifetime.

And they'll sit there, or they'll lecture us about, there was this one commercial I saw for a while, where they were talking about how we need to ban guns or make sure nobody has guns. These motherfuckers are protected by arm security at all times. So of course you can say that asshole. Like, easy for you to say.

Yeah, who are you talking to? Do you know what about the dude, the single mom that lives in a bad neighborhood and she needs to, you know, want to feel safe because she goes grocery shopping at night because that's the only time. And that's her freaking equalizer is to be able to have a gun.

So anyway, that kind of stuff really gets on my nerves and it's, but it's something that we need to pay attention to because we have all these celebrities telling us what to do when people listening. And most of these people are just like, look at it, let me put this way. Most of these people are idiots like most people are. That's what, you know, the odds that they're gonna be

in human beings. That's it. That's exactly it. Don't you feel like we see this, like in a micro-casm of that is the social media world? Totally. You know you have these people that reach a million or two million followers and we call them social influencers and we got all these kids that are following liking loving everything they're doing whatever they tell them to do. Meanwhile a lot of them are fucking terrible people. Terrible people or just not an authority in the space that they have created themselves as an authority.

You see a lot of this. Crazy. But like with Michael Jackson, for example, pretend he's not Michael Jackson for a second. Pretend he's some dude who radically changed the way he looks through all kinds of plastic surgery who spoke very strangely when you would hear him talk in person, who dressed the way he did,

who had a big fucking mansion that he turned into a, like a theme park. Like a theme park for children had weird pets, wouldn't let anybody in there. Was a grown man. You would never get away with that if you were anybody. No, it's a grown man whose best friends are children. He didn't hang out with normal people, he would just hang out with kids. Somebody would have blown the whistle a long time ago. You know what I mean?

I don't know, and it also makes me think like more into his childhood, like what else happened? You know, like what besides the abuse, like was there sexual abuse there too? To turn him into that. Right, cause like a lot of times, I mean it doesn't happen every time, but a lot of times it stems from,

you know, something like that that carries on. I think it's actually a very high percentage actually. I don't, I you look that up. Like kids that are people that sexually offend what the percentage or likelihood is abuse. Are Kelly's going through that right now? There's the big thing around him. It's like, I mean, he was sexually abused and then now

you see this all playing out, you know, within his lifestyle. What's the state, what's the quote, hurt people, hurt people? You guys heard that before? I have heard that. Hurt people, hurt people, hurt people, hurt people. Oh, gosh, yeah. And that, and it makes perfect sense, but it doesn't excuse your actions.

So I think everybody has their own personal responsibility. If you've been, I have empathy for you for what you might have gone through, but you hurt other people you are responsible for that. You have no excuse, so at the end of the day. Anyway, did you guys see the, the Health IQs got such a great website? Did you see what they did with their Health IQ by state?

No. So they listed, and I was doing some a little bit of research. I wanted to see, you know, which... Are they competing states in terms of their knowledge and literacy? I lost the site. I gotta, oh here it is. So what they did is they show, so you know on Health IQ, you can go on their website

and you can take a Health IQ test. And it tests you on your fitness and nutrition knowledge. And they're decent questions, right? I mean, I can serve myself a fitness expert, if you will, or we didn't ace it. So I didn't ace it, I did well, but I didn't ace it. But I was pretty impressed with the questions. And they actually used your test score

to determine what you get for life insurance, but what they did on their website is check this out. They did a median health IQ by state. And so what I did is I looked up the states by life expectancy to see if there was a correlation. See what I'm saying? So like for example, California has a higher health IQ than like Texas or than Florida. Then when I go back and I look at the life expectancy, California's life expectancy is much higher than both Texas and Florida. California is at 80, and if I scroll way down, I can find Texas at 78, and Florida is even lower than that.

And I found that fascinating. And what they also did on the site is they showed that a lower health IQ correlates to higher medical costs. So like Tennessee, who had a very low health IQ of 134, you know, in comparison to like Hawaii or California or Washington, Washington's health IQ was, or Oregon was 164, right? Who's the highest?

The highest score, I'm trying to, I think it might be, I think Oregon did the, or not Nevada, what's next in Nevada, what is that there? Oregon did really well at 164, but look Tennessee, low health IQ score their Medicare Cost per capita $3,900 the lowest cost was North Dakota at

$1,400 and their health IQ was a full 20 points higher than Tennessee's How crazy is that that they're correlating and showing to interest see interesting. That, I mean, and this is like great data, because usually if you want to test whether or not somebody's gonna be a good candidate for life insurance, you do all kinds of like measurements on their health, like your blood tests and you know, physical and all that stuff, these, they're showing that someone's knowledge

about fitness and health. It makes perfect sense, right? It does, but it's fascinating. Yeah, no, it makes a lot of sense. Nobody's really used that angle yet, too. It was interesting, too. They said that studies showed that, you know, the average retiree will need 280,000 just to pay for their medical expenses,

but that number drops substantially, you know, the more you know, in terms of, you know, your health and wellness. That's crazy, yeah. It's crazy money. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy money. It's crazy to me that they're figuring out these other metrics. I wonder if the medical community

will start using something like this. Have you guys started seeing all the health IQ commercials? They're all over TV. Popping up on TV. Oh yeah, yeah. They're making some big moves. Yeah, no, it's all about health, they call it health literacy. And it's funny because this is kind of a market driven way of figuring out someone's

insurability. And the market might drive the more regulated markets like medicine, like who knows, maybe one day you go to the doctor and part of your physical is, hey, let's ask you some questions. Do you know what a carbohydrate is? Do you know what a protein is? Do you know what a protein is? Do you know what, you know, between these two foods, which one's better, what kind of activity is this? Is it strength training, or is it cardiovascular,

or whatever? Yeah, I think that's freaking. When's the last time you had a physical? I'm only asking because I got a good next week before I do this big thing, this event that's going on. And I'm like, worried, I haven't been for like years. Can you talk about what you're gonna do? Can I talk about that?

Yeah, sure you can. Yeah, so you're flying a jet, bro. You're flying a jet, dude. Yes, with the Air Force. Like with the jet, right? Is it F-16 that you're in? I don't know. I don't know.

It is? I don't know what it is. Yes. Oh, that's the best kind. So the guy that... The Thunderbirds, yeah, they contacted me and they said, hey, I wanted to see if one of you guys would like to come up

and take a ride around and one of our jets. I thought I was fake. I'm like, you're sound checking out, pass it off. Hey, oh, no. Man, those things, the, the, the geez that those things will pull, oh, man, it's insane. So at first I thought, oh, shit, they want all three of us to go out.

How am I going to chicken out of this one? Luckily, luckily he can only take one of us. I don't know, I was like, oh it's so bummed because I thought we were all gonna do this. It's like a team, you know? Then it was just like, it got more real because I was like, oh wow, it's just gonna be me. Are you, now, are you, you have to get a physical

before you go up there? I have to get a physical and it's like rigorous. Like they wanna know everything. And I, of course, because like, talk about if like my blood pressure is too high, like any factor is gonna, you know, intensify substantially when you go to the gym. Oh, there's still hope for me.

There's hope that you don't pass the physical. So there you go. Am I passing off to you, bro? I mean, you're more healthy than me. When was the last time you had a physical? Ah, well over 10 years ago, I'm sure. Really? Well, you're age, bro.

You know what a physical entails now, right? No, I'm not. I'm not allowing any finger to get a, that's finger to the butt, dude. You're gonna get a, you're gonna get a digit. No. Yeah, no, no, no, they're not happening. They're gonna test out your wall.

I think it's worse if you try and fight it actually. Yeah. You gotta relax, dude. I'll bring my own lube. Yeah. No, I don't, I don't, yeah. I'm gonna trust them. No, dude, and they't. I don't, yeah. I'm trustin'. No, dude, and they're not gentle about it, man.

I'm gonna find the doctor the smallest hands. You're like, you're my girl. You imagine fucking Shaqilo Neal walks in and shit. I'm your doctor for today. No, I, the celebrity doctor. They're not gentle with that shit. I tell you about the time I got, the doctor put his finger to my ass.

Did I tell you about that? No, you did not share it. I like Dee, Bajio. No, that was not share it. I like DeeBee Geover. No, that was terrible, dude. Talk about it. I ate, I was hanging out with some buddies and I went on a binge and ate just terrible food. Like we had cereal and donuts and it was just terrible.

I just went nuts, I don't know what was wrong with me. Anyway, the next day, I just had the most painful poops of all time and anyway, it wasn't good. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't good. So I thought something was wrong. I mean, you guys know I'm paranoid. Yeah. So I go to the doctor and he's like, well, I can take a look and see what's going on. So I was like, oh, what does that mean? He's like, well, you know, land your side or whatever. I'm like, look in there real deep. Yeah. So, you know, roll your over to the way they do it, too. You got to roll over on your side.

So it's a really kind of compromising, strange position. And it was just right in there. He's like, no, you're fine. I was like, no, I'm not. I'm not a scarred friend. I'm not a scarred friend. I'm not a scarred friend.

But anyway, I've never had it. Have you had that? I have. I see how far this is thing. That's not only got to do it, because a long time ago, like my blood pressure was through the roof and everything. This is before I had my adrenal gland removed.

And so they thought like, you know, maybe prostate, like whatever. Like they had to like check everything. And so I've had that experience already. Yeah. This, yeah, this middle eastern guy of big ass fingers. I will never forget it. So I am not, yeah, I'm going to. You remember his face.

Yeah. I tried not to. So both of you guys already have there. Yeah, it has happened. Adam's like, I never heard the doctor just, you know, at the parties. No, no. Katrina, Katrina's tried a couple times.

Oh my God. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait a minute. So, okay, like the whole deal with Ben Greenfield and the race, didn't this like, if you lose I do the coffee in them. I put that on my story Somebody will hold you to that. So if you lose you have to do the coffee in your butt

Yeah, I told so I people were talking about Ben and I like it's obviously since we've we've put it out there There's been people Talking shit back and forth and on my Q&A's that I do which I think today I'll do one of those They at they asked me you me something about doing coffee in them before with Ben, I said, listen, I have no desire to do that, but if Ben beats me in the pool, I will shove coffee at my ass.

Well, you just learned something new, right? You're kind of telling us, like, what is it? Yeah, so you know it's funny too. Did you guys see the swimmers who came on the forum right after I talked about swimming right away? No, well, you know how our forum is. Ingel, you're talking about all the wrong things. Yes, exactly.

Right. Okay. But I'm a 14 years of swimming and I had two Olympians and I jerked off the Michael Phelps six times. So I sleep in water. Yeah. So you're doing it wrong. You know, it's so because what I was trying to share with you guys about the

legs thing, that was mind blowing for me. Well, that was one of the first like steps into what I was trying to share with you guys about the legs thing, that was mind-blowing for me. Well, that was one of the first steps that I was reading for me to practice. And the point of it, okay, wasn't that don't use your legs. No legs are involved in swimming whatsoever. It was that, I think most people that were to get in a pool and swim across the pool, kicked like crazy as hard as they can to get across the pool. And that's not the way you learn technique. And that was the first mind blowing thing was holy shit. If I actually put more effort into not kicking my legs and reducing the drag and using all I was moving much fashion to

pull. So that was the point of me sharing that. And by the way, I shared that and a ton of people have now been, I guess the episode that we talked about this has now inspired a ton of people to be swimming. And so I'm getting a lot of DMs of people asking my experience and what book I'm reading and I'm sharing all this stuff. And that was the first big thing that I learned was that. And now the most recent thing is actually learning to generate the power from my hips. And it was like this light ball went off

and I was reading it like duh, Adam. It's like a golfer or a baseball player that swings really hard with their arms. So first the book is like, So instead of using your knee extension and flexion. Or even my arms, like your hips actually are what propel the whip of the arm and everything and it's supposed to drive

from that's where the power comes from. Just like in a baseball player, baseball player goes to swing a bat and you can muscle it with your arms all day and connect with all power in athletics. Yeah, derives from the hips. Yeah, so the hips and the core, so the newest thing for me is to try and get that

and sink together and get that rhythm down and it's been a man It's been a it's been a blast. I'm really Yesterday, before yesterday was my first thousand meter swim Which that's 20 laps. So that's that's quite a bit for me. I took me a long time to work up Are you timing to see how fast you are? Not formally. I'm watching the clock So it it's now it took me a 30 minutes to get a thousand meters in. And that's not, I'm not aggressively going.

I swim 100 meters right off the gates to start to warm me up. And then I do these 50 meter sprints or 50 meter techniques for 50 meters. I will work on a specific technique, whether that be breathing or the way my hand hits the water or the way I rotate or now with my hips or... Now here's a good question. Have you seen any carry over to the weights or any detriment? Because it's a different type of activity.

I'm wondering what you, detriments I've seen. Okay, what kind of detriment? Well, I mean, my core is really sore, my back gets really sore right now, and so that's hindering my weightlifting. Got it, okay. So, but I think I've shared this before in the podcast. My number one goal is swimming first,

and of course I'm training to keep my physique, the way I want to keep it as much as possible, but it's taking a backseat to swimming first. So there's a lot of times where I thought I was gonna do deadlifts on Wednesday and I was planning to do that, but then I'd swim a thousand meters and now my back is really sore

and it's like, well, I'm probably don't need to be crushed deadlifts after that. And so that gets kind of, okay, I'll just do some walking lunges today instead. Right. So there's certain things like that that have now happened where I'm modifying my training to compliment the swimming versus swimming is complimenting my training.

Cause I'm up to now, the last two weeks have done four times in the week of swimming. So I'm getting quite a bit of a swimming in right now. I know Justin, you said you're, you're trying to be more powerful. I have, I know. I see that the waiting yesterday. He meant it literally. Yeah, like trying to be doing power train. Yeah, like literally. Yeah, I got a complete team laugh at it I was actually knew that was gonna happen so I delivered it that way

But like yeah, I I've been doing a lot of power like specific training. So Clean's clean and jerks been grabbing the clean and jerks, I've been grabbing the the sledgehammer and like striking the tires with it again. And I'm actually like trying to rig up some cool things around my house to really express that accelerated speed and power and generating maximal force.

And this is stuff I've always loved. I just love that kind of training and just getting back into it. It feels fucking good. I don't know, I know a lot of people like to look physically awesome and cut and diced and all these kinds of things. For me, it's always been about like, oh my god, I could fuck some shit up right now. That's how I feel.

That's a good feeling. Where's the tires that you're hitting with the sledgehammer? So I actually buried one in my backyard. Yeah, buried half of it. And so my next move is, and it's great because my best friend's from childhood owns a tire shop. So I'm always like, hey man, can you throw me

like one of those in your lot? And he's like, yeah, totally. So I got one tire buried and he's gonna get another one for me. I'm gonna chain it around a tree. And then I'm gonna use it to kind of strike the tree instead of chopping a tree down I'm gonna basically emulate that to so I can get some side chops So but anyway, just kind of my own rig. I get me outside gets me physical like I just enjoy that kind of So here's how do you organize what movements you're gonna, because they're all power movements, right? Are these workouts all power-based?

Or are you doing like power and then doing some like, curls and shit like that? Well, yeah, no, to be honest, it's mainly power specific moves with mobility type in rotational kind of reinforcing type moves in between. So I still keep up my shoulder rotational moves with clubs and with Mace Bell, and that also still, I do a lot of mobility type workouts on the off days.

But to be honest, I'll spend an hour where I'm deliberately resting a minute, two minutes, three minutes in between, depending on how vigorous I go. And I'm deliberately resting a minute, two minutes, three minutes in between, depending on how vigorous I go. And I'm starting to, since January, I'm starting to slowly ramp up the load. So my power cleanser getting heavier,

and my snap is still there. So that's all coming back. But I've been really hesitant to add a lot of load. So I haven't really, again, this is Instagram, right? Like you don't want to post all these, because I follow people that just do ridiculous lot of load. So I haven't really, again, this is Instagram, right? Like you don't wanna post all these, because I follow people that just do ridiculous amount of weight. So it's always like crushing to like post something that's like, you know, like 135 pounds or something.

Like, I'm going through the skill. Yeah, everyone's like, yeah, we have boring. Look at the bar speed, look at the bar speed. Look how tight my path is. You know, like, go and get this shit. No, I'm trying to incorporate a little bit more power, nothing like what you're doing, but I have the sled now at home, and so I'm trying to practice doing just power sprints with it, and as it warm, it's been raining like crazy.

As soon as it calms down with the raining, I want to start doing some hill sprints and stuff like that to get more power. But at the same time, and I'm eating it away, that's not going to benefit that, I actually started to go keto a little bit more and I'm going to start more power. But at the same time, and I'm eating it away, that's not gonna benefit that.

I actually started to go keto a little bit with my diet, believe it or not. Really? And then after that awesome blog. Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, I love that about you. You know what I guess? You gotta know how to use these things.

And I'm definitely not gonna be keto forever. And I'm not gonna do the whole rebound craziness. I'm doing it mainly because I haven't done it for a while. And I think it's important every once in a while, if you get to a particular point with nutrition, to change things up and identify how your body reacts, responds and how you feel. And it always changes my perspective. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, if I go keto for a few months, it'll probably change my perspective on food again, just like when I went off keto a long time ago, you know, changed my perspective. So I'm gonna do that for a little while and I'll keep you guys up to date on what I

notice. I'm ready. I can tell a little bit loss of strength, but I don't know if it's, I don't think I'm in ketosis yet. I think it's just from the reduced calories. I was gonna say, so you're gonna be reducing calories. You're not increasing calories right now. I'm trying to keep them relatively high, but I always find it hard to do that when I go keto, because it kills my appetite. Yeah, interestingly that you're choosing to do that at the same time, you're also choosing to do

sprints and power stuff. I know, I know, it doesn't make any sense. That's it. Yeah, very counterproductive. I realize that as I'll say it. Like I'm doing more power too, and I'm gonna eat in a way to make it impossible. Yeah.

Yeah. Just love adversity, right? That's the, I like doing power work when I don't have power. Well, you know, to touch on that though a bit is, it's okay when it's okay that your power drops, right? It's not a big, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, And that's your main issue. What I like about, here's what I like most about going on a keto diet for me is that,

and this usually happens the first month or two or three months into it is, I get real sharp mentally. And that's the part that I, and I want to see if I notice that again, because in the past it was really helping my gut health. And my gut health has been fine now, whether I eat carbs or not. So I wanna see if I still experience that mental sharpening that I had before, because it was fun. It's a fun experience to kinda go through.

Did you tell me that I should check out, like I should include more chaga. And you're talking about immunomodulation. Can you explain that to me more? Okay. I'm trying to explain this. Yeah, that's a good question. So, you know, I wonder, does chaga grow in California for us to, Doug, maybe look that up? So, excuse me, chaga is a mushroom that grows on certain types of trees. I don't know which one,

but anyway, it's a one of the most prized medicinal mushrooms That's out there. I know that in Chinese medicine. It's used To kill viruses. It's anti-cancer. In fact, there's a lot of studies done on chaga for its anti-cancer effects Here's why I like chaga the most It's immuno-modulating effects now. What does immuno-modulating mean? Immuno-modulating means It it helps and out of balance immune system become more balanced. So, if you have a depressed immune system, because you're fatigued, you're tired, you're not getting good sleep, it will boost your immune system. If you have an overactive immune system, like someone might have with allergies

or maybe even autoimmune type issues, Chaga helps bring that back down. And so that's what really fascinates me about Chaga because so many people's chronic issues today are have to do with their immune systems. These chronic health issues like acid reflux or skin issues or I just feel super fatigued,

not realizing it's kind of a mild immune issue that's going on, whether it's due to their food intake or they have inflammatory issues, whatever. Chaga is one of those things that kind of brings it down. So I notice when I take chaga, I get I feel more balanced, I just feel good, I feel better, but it takes me about five days of consistent use. So I started doing that with the four-sigmatic,

you know, chaga. Was it the coffee or how do they? No, it's just the regular chaga and it's a little green pack. Okay. And what I do is I warm up some, if I wanted to taste better, I warm up some almond milk and I'll mix it in there. Or, you know, sometimes I'm ganked,

so I just pour it right right my face. I'm trying I'm gonna try to you know like I know like it's not the best flavor like some of these but like for those purposes like I'm I'm gonna give it a go. Well it grows in wild birch trees or in birch forest I don't there's no birch trees where you live right Justin? No, yes Tell me what the chocolate does they dark chocolate. I know I mean the fuck I had that sold out I mean the fuck out that's on the website though. No, it's sold out Dude, I mean I'm I still offer it, but I think they're out of stock Yeah, it's so good. I never again Yeah, tell me tell me well

It's our two children over here like it's dark chocolate, it's low in calorie, and it's got all these medicinal mushrooms. And when we talked about it first, I must have gotten 15 DMs from people. Like, chocolate? It's healthy. I want it. See, there's more people there on the same boat here

than the same boat as I am. No, shit. Hey, I got some Justin news for you guys, right? So Justin likes to bring these types of things, and this came across my desk, right? So Justin likes to bring these types of things and this came across this came across my desk, right? So this this Jewish type diamond tycoon dies yesterday at 65 years old. You want to know what he died from? He died in a he was 65 65 was the owner of Omega diamonds and worked in the industry for over 40 years. So he sells diamonds and is just a super rich dude.

Right. So he said, yeah, Tycoon, dies in a penis enlargement operation. Wow. Wow. What a way to go, huh? Oh, no. That's embarrassing. Oh, no.

65. You know what I mean? You know what, here's what I mean. If I was that rich and I was going to get a penis enlargement. You don't need a big dick if you're that rich. Yeah, like who are you trying to impress? Show them your big rock instead. You got big diamonds.

I thought you all said something. You know, here's the thing. Obviously, you didn't have one. If I was that rich and I was gonna wait surgery to enlarge my penis, I would do something with my lawyers where if I died, the news that would come out would be different, because that's a terrible way.

Yeah, it's so I would know. I had a Fred die. What? Penis and he had it. Not only did you die from having a weird surgery, but you died and everybody knows you had a small one at the same time. You could get the doctors to make something else up

in the document ahead of time. I know it's so bad to laugh at someone dying, but a guy would crack me up on my soul. Well, that's like that. What like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like,

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And choking himself, I get, well choking himself, both ways. Showing the double-chuck move. Yeah. So I'm coming in a embarrassing way to die. I'm coming with all the crazy news today. I had another one that came across that, I guess this was happening in 2017. I'm late to the party for those that have already

that knew about this story. I didn't know about this story and I had to share it with you guys. There, and I think it's because the charges just came down this last week is why it got resurfaced. In 2017, it was when the scam hit, they were, they were working through the courts for 2018. I think the charges just came through. The couple that did the GoFundMe account and fucking did a bamboozle homeless guy? Yes, I saw that. So they end up, so what they do is they fabricate this story

and they find a homeless guy and they actually go in kuhuts, right? Did you hear what the story was? Yeah, so the story was that she had ran out of gas and she was out in some rural area that was kind of scary, right? And this guy, this homeless guy saw her and she didn't have anything. He said, I'll go get you gas.

He went and he told her, stay in your car, lock your car, stay safe. And he hiked to the nearest gas station, used his last $20 to get her gas, get a gas can and fill it up and then fill her car up. So this is the story. And so then she decides that she wants to pay him back the best that she can and she claims

that they don't have a lot of money too. And they put this story together, they put it on GoFundMe and it ends up raising $400,000 for this guy. Holy shit. And the way it all comes undone was they had agreed upon this like three way partnership. Because they were all in on it, huh-way partnership because they were all in on it

Yeah, cuz they were all in on it and they cut him out on a lot of the a lot of the profits And then I think he was the whistleblower on it and then it all came on came on is that crazy dude? I wonder how many people are doing that? Yeah, right how many scammers like how many of those how many of those things get away? How many people get away with stuff like that? I hear about all the time I mean like seriously like firsthand experience. I mean, seriously, like firsthand experience, I remember, like, especially during the holidays, you'll see people out kind of begging for help

and stuff under the overpass. And there was this guy that looked very disheveled, like old clothes, like the whole deal, like felt really bad. Like, I think I even gave him money at one time. He was there, like, consistently. And then I actually saw, I went to get a drink at Starbucks and I saw this same guy go into the bathroom,

come out dressed in a suit, get in a Mercedes car and drive off. What the fuck, for reals? For reals. Like literally saw, and I was like, oh my god, I was like so pissed. So what, here's what annoys me most about that. It's not that he lied to you

because that's kind of annoying to. It hurts everybody else. He hurt like these people that you're talking about Adam. Like it hurts all the people who use GoFundMe as a way to help them. Like they actually need help. It's like an extra form of evil. You know, it's like you're fucking people

that really need help by doing like you're like a special kind of asshole. Well, that's kind, I mean, it's real similar to what we just saw with that Jesse Smollett guy or whatever. Very soon. Exactly. You know, there's real, there's still really hate, there's hate crimes that are happening across this country,

but because of this jackass that does something like that, you now a fuck tip, now you can't help it. Just human nature now when another story like that. You're gonna second guess it. Right. You know what that story tells me about this? It's really sad me about this country? What?

That there's a high demand for racism and a very low supply. The guy had to go out and pay people to act racist towards them. He couldn't find it. He couldn't create the story. He had to invent it, which to me, it tells us a lot and it tells me that

it still exists in this country when it happens. It's fucking terrible. But we're actually a pretty good place to be for most people, you know? Anyway, did you see the other article that Jackie sent over about the robot tank? No. Dude, the military is testing a AI-powered tank.

Yeah. And it looks like it has actually a fully automatic guns on the top. So it's basically, it looks like a little mini drone tank. I kind of assume we had that already. Yes. I did. I would think that drone planes would be harder

to build than a tank. But this is a lot more personal. It's like driving right up and like mowing, you know, people down. Dude, that's gonna be, now what they're they're what they're there's gonna be a human Element to them. They're saying to help control what's going on But how long do you guys how long do you guys think it's the future, bro? It's before they they're they're they're just what was your Economist wars are gonna be settled like video games. Yeah, it'll be like a country will call you out

And it'll be like fortnight versus you know the will call you out and it'll be like Fortnite versus, you know, the champion Fortnite. Yeah, it's just to be all human collateral damage, you know, because we'll get in the way of all these fucking phones. I hope we evolve enough to say that we have like a grant, like we go somewhere out in the desert, right? And it's just like, okay, no nukes, there's rules,

there's rules to this war, go to town. Bro, well, then recreating all these new ethics around it, because it's like, yeah, they're just gonna keep coming out with machines and AI and, you around it because it's like, yeah, they're just gonna keep coming out with machines and AI and You know like it's like what are we gonna do? How are we gonna like control and manage all this? It just gets it gets worse. It just keeps getting worse. It's not I don't think it'll I don't think it'll get better If we ever get evolved to the point where we do that at them then we'll evolve to the point where we don't have war What is what I what's what I think will happen is that war will get so dangerous

for everybody that people will stop doing it for fear. Well, aren't we kind of there already? With nukes. Yeah, it's why you don't see countries who are nuclear powers go full out war against each other. They just don't. Well, yeah, it wasn't there like real heated between like India and Pakistan just recently.

If they were. Dude, if India and Pakistan didn't have nuk newks they would have a full war but yeah it would happen if the soviet union and the u.s. didn't have newks we would have gone full war with them what kept us from doing that we because we did we did a lot of proxy wars were we would fund these guys and they would fund this guy and we let them fight it out but we didn't like directly go against each other because of the fear of mutual destruction yeah it's like, imagine getting in a fight with someone. No one wins.

Yeah, imagine getting a fight with someone and knowing for sure we're both gonna die. Like there's no, there's no winning. So that's my only hope, but with drones and machines, that kind of gives them the false sense of like, oh, we're not really hurting, you know, no one's gonna die, no, so I think it makes it worse. Definitely concerns me.

Yeah, and how do you turn off the killing machines? Haven't they seen the terminator? I know Come on man, like it's all there. How's going on here? Yeah anyway Here's some good news. There's some fun stuff. So my daughter signed up for a 5k. Oh, yeah Where she can do that at well so at her school they have like a girls on the run Is it like a donate thing is Is this a charity or a charity? Probably raise funds. Probably, but they now they meet and they go running,

you know, after school. And I think it's so, it's so cool. It's so cute. It's a little daughter. Do your guys this kid's school? I know I know, I know, I know, you got him in private school, right? Do they, my good friend or Katrina's good friend,

Christina, they have this, it's so cool. Her kid right now is doing like one of those walk-a-thon things or whatever. And they do like a full-on production video to get you to donate to their kid. And it's all web driven, right? So I get this like email and it's a Hollywood production type of video, but they use green screen type technology

to pull somebody else's face and put the kids face in there. So he's part of the movie. Have you guys seen this? I've seen this before. Yeah, it's real, so the one this, and every year it's something different this year. They have a back to the future theme

and a doc holiday type of guy comes skidding in and he pulls up the newspaper and he's just like, we're looking for this kid. And it's him, right? It's her son and it's done really well. It's like it's really clever way. And then it's at the very end of the video, it's like click here to donate, save the world.

You know, it's like, yeah, you can't help but not want to click. Bro, you just very craft. You just wait for all the frickin' fundraisers. You just wait till you're with fundraisers and the apps of like paying attention to your kid and what they're doing like real time It's funny. They have all there. They have ones where you'll buy like gift cards for like gas or shopping or whatever And they've set up deals with these businesses to where they'll match it or whatever so the school actually gets money

So if I like buy gas from Chevron for example I could buy these gas tickets from the school and the school gets money from Chevron for selling them to me. It's kind of smart. Oh yeah, that's... And all the Amazon links you go through, so it pays the school, it's great. Yeah, it's really smart. I appreciate that kind of stuff, but you just wait.

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And when I started to realize that if I put more effort into my diet and my training on the weekend, it may getting to whatever, whatever my fitness pursuit at that time was a million times easier. And this still, this rule still applies. Like if I work out on Sunday, day before heading into the week, right? It sets the tone for my whole week. It really does. And if I make sure I get up on Saturday morning and I go get a workout in or I start my day

off right with some physical activity, it sets the tone for the weekend and the rest of the week. And before that, I used to live by the other world, exactly like this girl saying right here is, I was a trainer, I was dialed Monday through Friday. I mean, I was weighing and measuring my food, I trained my ass off, and then the weekends, I live for the weekends.

It was, I'm going out on Saturday night or Friday night, dancing and drinking and having a good time. On football Sunday, I'm having some pizza and a beer. And my thought process on that was, I was so dialed during the week that I was allowed to get away with this. And you know what? I was a decently fit person,

my whole fitness career with that mentality. But it also was a difference between me going to the next level. When I really wanted the next level of fitness, when I wanted to get shredded or really change my physique, this whole idea had to change. And when I started to put all of my focus

on my restricting and my discipline on the weekend, it made, because it's really easy during the week for me to not fuck up. It's really easy to say no to go now for drinks on Monday night. It's really easy to say no to go out for drinks on Monday night. It's really easy to not go get a cheeseburger or a pizza when my meals are all prepared for me throughout the day. And so this was one of the biggest, plus I also remember,

and we have shared this when I had the body bug. I was gonna talk about that. And when I was tracking, I realized that during the week, my body was burning, and this is a guesstimation, doesn't matter the exact number, but it was saying that it was burning 4500 to 5,000 calories every day, Monday through Friday. And that was also when I was eating the best.

But then it comes Saturday and Sunday, that would like a cliff. Now listen, it was 2,500 calories, I was burning. And so if that was also the days that I was fucking up, then I was actually doing enough, quote unquote, damage to stifle my progress and to kind of keep me at that level. And if I wanted to push through that,

then that's something had to change. And so when I coach now and I tell people this or share this with them, I always make sure they understand their goal and be very realistic about it. Hey, if you're a college kid and and you care about socializing and going out on a Saturday night, and and that's why you train so well and you eat well all week long, then who am I to say that you can't do that? Sure, you can do that and you can maintain a pretty healthy balance and a pretty good physique. But if you're coming to me as a client and you're saying, Adam,

I want to look like the cover of this magazine or I'm just stuck at this plateau. I can't break it. But then you're also telling me you kind of don't really do, you don't really stay on course on Saturday and Sunday. That's the first place I go. Yeah. It's funny. You brought that up. I was totally thinking that the whole time, the biggest impact and from that body bug experiment we did and competition wise, that's a common, very, very common thing amongst all of my clients is that, you know, that's the mentality

is yes, it's the weekend. And so it's the pizza Friday night with the family or it's the added amount of calories that we're piling on on top of the inactive moments during the week, which really was where it accelerated, added up, and it didn't really calculate as to how much that was keeping their progress really, really stifled.

It just kept them sort of from moving forward and just those little things, like just thinking about just standing up more and being more active, not just like plopping on the couch was game changer for a lot of them, just to realize that. Yeah, it's, there's a couple of things here. First off, there's nothing wrong with enjoying yourself on any day.

Remember that weekend day is a day just like any other day. It's Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. They're all arbitrarily named days. And of course, we worked during the week, typically and all that stuff and schedules change. But it's a day like any other. And this, this person here isn't talking about, um, Hey, on the weekends, everyone's smile. Like what, what it sounds like it's going through is the wagon off the wagon mentality that happens

to some people where during the week, they restrict only to allow themselves to binge on the weekend. That's the thing that you need to, that you need to visit. The way you find more balance in this is not in restricting yourself on the weekends. It's in allowing yourself to be a little looser during the week. Absolutely. And not have that binge. You're hyping it up too much.

That's the exact thing that I, someone who struggles with this, what I allow them to do is this. Tell me what it is that you're enjoying on the weekend. Oh, it's a pizza, oh, it's a burger, oh, it's a glass of wine. Great. I actually want you, when you,

somewhere between Monday and Friday, you're now allowed to have that. I would allow them to have that during the weekend, but let's tighten your weekends up. Let's be more strict on the weekends. If you really want those things, I don't want to tell you you can't have them. You can, let's just try and schedule them a difference.

What ends up magically happening is because they're so dialed normally during the week, they go, oh, I don't really feel like. Dude, this is, it's all about that mentality. The psychology, like, what ends up happening with a lot of clients in this situation who live for the weekend. I mean, think about that for a second.

When I say that statement, live for the weekend. You can picture the feeling of during the week, okay, I'm gonna eat this chicken breast and rice, I'm gonna eat this broccoli, okay, I'm gonna just think, it's okay, because Saturday's come in, so I'm gonna be strict, I'm gonna be strict, breast and rice, I'm gonna eat this broccoli, okay, I'm gonna just think, it's okay, cause Saturday's come in, so I'm gonna be strict, I'm gonna be strict, and it's this restricted, restricted feeling then when the weekend comes, of course,

you're gonna open the floodgates and you're gonna go over, and when it ends up happening is, it's not that people enjoy themselves on the weekend, that's not the right word, you're not enjoying yourself, the reality is a lot of people overfeed themselves and feel shitty. When you're with, when you're with, when you see people who do this, you'll see them eat on a weekend and then they'll eat so much that they're uncomfortable.

Or they'll eat so much that they don't feel good anymore. That is, that's an overreaction to the restriction. That's like the pendulum swung in one way and they swing it fucking hard in the opposite way. Because truly enjoy, here's the thing Truly enjoying yourself when it comes to food is not eating until you can't breathe anymore It's not eating until you feel sick. That's not enjoying yourself. That's just trying to stuff as much That's trying to make up for restriction as much as possible Yeah, it's interesting is it reminds me of you know these nine to five jobs in this work week kind of schedule or people like really like

of these nine to five jobs in this work week kind of schedule or people really like loathe their job. Like they're there, but they're just doing time until Friday night comes around and now it's like, oh, it's their hair out and fucking party. Like let's go all in and then you start all over the cycle all over again. And I mean, that's a tough way to live. Like it is.

It's tough to not really recognize things that you enjoy during the week and you're a part of it. And like, so in terms of fitness and working out, like you got to find those things you really enjoy in terms of food, you got to find those those healthy things that you really enjoy and just like, like, enjoy the process of it more. This is actually very, very common, very common. And one, I was definitely somebody stuck here for a really long time. And I actually started to shift the way I coach because of this.

And when it was that moment or that light bulb went off for me, and I realized that I was one of these people too. And I started realizing, wow, if I just put all of my energy and focus on mastering Saturday and Sunday, it was actually really easy and Monday through Friday kind of fell in line. And so that's kind of how I coach to people and this is like, hey, instead of like restricting

so hard, you know, Monday through Friday and then letting your hair down on Saturday and Sunday, actually I would like you just give me two days of being dialed Saturday and Sunday. Give me Saturday and Sunday and then throughout the week, if you feel like you want a burger or you feel like you want a glass of wine and you really want it, then have it. And it it blows my because what ends up happening on the weekend?

Well, it's because they don't go to work. Yes. They don't have the same schedule. Yes. They're sitting around Yes, so that's when you probably need more you need more structure You need more structure when there's less structure in your day when you have a day where you could sleep into 11 Yeah, and you could order food in and you could end up watching TV all day long those days are gonna kill you in comparison to a day where you worked until 11 and you could order food in and you could end up watching TV all day long. Those days are going to kill you in comparison to a day where you worked all day long and you got to the gym that day, you were acting and then you decided to have a burger or a glass of wine that day.

She didn't do that much damage to you. It's the binge mentality that gets you. Yeah, think about it this way. Who, if we have two individuals, one person lives in a modern modern society works a desk job in front of a computer the other person Lives in a rural part of the country has to chop their own wood for for fire Has to go get their own water from a creek or whatever Which of those people should put in or will benefit more from having practices to ensure activity the person who's Chopin wooden shit to get themselves warm or the person who sits at a desk all day long, okay?

The person who needs the practices is the one whose life just doesn't lend itself well to activity. The days that tend to lend themselves poorly to just eating whatever I want tend to be weekends because we don't have that structure. And so what Adam's saying is 100% correct. The key to getting out of this is not to become

stricter on the weekend per se, but rather loosen up a little bit during the week and just put some practices on the weekend. That's all, that's how you balance yourself out. Because otherwise what's gonna end up happening is if you continue to restrict yourself as hard as you have been during the week and now you just add the weekends on top of it.

Instead of having the binge on the weekends, you'll have the binge as soon as you finish with that restriction. And whatever dramatic hardcore restricted fashion you were living before, you can have an equal but opposite reaction the other direction. Just like when we have competitors

who do a 12 week prep for a show, the binge that they do is just, it's insane and astronomical. It's literally an example of what we're talking about. Next question is from Brian Allen-Nigue. I have a handful of clients, usually women, who severely under eat in an attempt to lose weight. I try to explain that they need to eat more to support their training, but they see it

as counterproductive. How can I explain to them that they'll have better progress if they actually eat more. As a trainer, the number one job that you have, the one skill that will benefit you more than any other skill, is your ability to communicate. And here's an example of why. If you do a good job selling why this person needs to eat more food, they will eat more food. They're just afraid to have them bought in yet. And so the things that I like to explain to people is just how the body

adapts, how the body adapts to both exercise and how it adapts to food. And so what I like to do and the way I like to explain things I like to use analogies, and analogies are quite effective at getting people to understand your point because it takes them away from the subject that they're having difficulty understanding and it places it in a different context unless it's ramp water unless you're using Justin's analogy of ramp water If you if you use an analogy oftentimes people kind of get what you're talking about So what I like to use in this case is I like to create a scenario where let's just imagine you have a and a super advanced AI car, okay, it just it's brand new. It's super advanced AI car. Okay? It's just brand new, it's super advanced.

Runs with Schmessler. And this car adapts according to the demands that you place upon it to make itself better at what you're asking it to do. So if I take this car and every day when I get in, I turn it on, I drive it as fast as I fucking can from my house to a mile away. The way the car will adapt is it'll probably

not worry so much about gas mileage because I'm only driving a mile and going as fast as possible. It's gonna make a big, powerful, fast engine. Now on the flip side, if I'm driving a car and I'm driving it slow and I'm going long distance and I'm trying to push how far I can go, the car will adapt by shrinking its engine down.

Maybe it'll go down to one cylinder or whatever. Use very, very little gas, but it won't go very fast because that's what I'm asking my car to do. Your body is very similar. If you feed your body very little and you do lots of cardio, your body will learn how to become very efficient with calories and it's going to make it very, very difficult to get for you to get lean and stay lean with a small engine per se. This individual, if you need explain to them is look, we need to build muscle and build strength and we need to feed that process.

If we feed that process and if we send the stimulus that tells your body to have more muscle, which is strength training, you will get a faster metabolism. And Mrs. Johnson wouldn't you rather burn 200 to 300 more calories a day just being alive than having to get on cardio to make that happen every single day. And I guarantee that person can look at you and say, fuck yeah, absolutely. I think I'll do that. This is a hard one. I actually think that, I mean, I agree with Sal, but I also disagree that it's just an easy communication thing because

I think I'm a really good communicator. And if there's anything that I've had, I mean, I just read a text the other day about somebody who's trained with me a million times, they've been competitive before, and I still find myself having this conversation. I think it does, it is tough for people to understand because it does seem counterproductive, right? And it only seems counterproductive because of the bullshit we've been fed for so many years. We've been told for so long that if you wanna lose weight,

move more, eat less. And that's just, it's only half of the story. And I think that's why we came out on those types of statements early on and try to dispel them. Okay, sure there's some truth to that that if you eat more, I mean, if you eat less and move more, you're going to lose weight. But you also have to explain to them that, okay, listen, if wherever we're at and they have to know that, like if you're at

x amount of calories right now, it's inevitable that if I restrict your calories, move more, you're going to see a little bit of weight loss. But sooner or later the body then adapts to that. And then we have to do that again. And I always, it's explained to them like how that. So that typically happens every two to four weeks. So if you've got somebody who's already moving like crazy, and they're only eating 1500 calories, and they want to lose 30 pounds, it's not very realistic. And eventually what's going to happen is they're going to be down to seven or nine hundred calories And then you can look back with the client say is that something you think you would want to sustain for the rest of your life

And you know, yeah, it's a rhetorical question. You can answer. I know you don't want to do that So what I want to do is I want to slowly build your metabolism up to where you're eating so much that you look back at me And you go Adam. I don't want to eat anymore food. I'm eating so much food I'm like, awesome. Now it's time for us to go the other direction and start to restrict calories from you. And then hopefully what ends up happening is I can restrict calories from you. And now that we've built up this metabolism, your body is burning more calories more efficiently. You're losing the weight and you're also satisfied food wise.

So I think that you just, like Sal saying, and you've got to paint this picture for this client. But you got to, you can't stop. You have to keep painting. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean by effective communicating. It's a constant. There was never a day that I would train a client or work with a client that I wasn't trying to solidify

the things that we had talked about. And by the way, once they start to see this working, once they start to feel it working, you don't have to sell it as much anymore. Like, once you get a client to, and you had to point these things out, by the way. Like, I'll take a client, I'll be like, okay, you know, they'll tell me, oh, you know,

I've only lost like two pounds in the last six weeks. I'll be like, yeah, but let's look at your food intake. You're eating 300 more calories a day, and you still lost two more pounds. You have a much faster metabolism. Once I show them that and explain that to them, the looks on their faces are like, oh shit, you're right. This is going to make it a lot easier. Look, here's the thing. It's so hard to burn calories manually and it's so easy to eat calories. It only makes sense to try to get a faster metabolism in a

in the context of modern life where we don't move much. So we talk all the time about moving more, but let's be honest, even if you get 15,000 steps a day, you're not moving that much, modern life is just fucking sedative. And not only that, but there's food everywhere and it tastes good. And you can get it whenever you want and get whatever you want.

It only makes sense to speed up your metabolism. So you as a trainer, you need to explain this to your client because if your client wants to succeed, but they also want to succeed in a permanent way, the best way for them to do that is to find a way to get their metabolism to speed up. Otherwise, it's gonna be very difficult. Otherwise, you're gonna have to constantly worry about

how they could structure extreme amounts of activity in their life and how they can restrict their food intake to really low calories, forever when food is everywhere. So it's very difficult. You know, more to your point, Sal, you as a trainer, you need to really understand adaptation. You really need to understand that.

And so, because Sal uses an analogy with the car that I've never used in my entire life, but I didn't need to because I have other ways to explain that to my client. So if you're struggling getting through to your client, then maybe you need to continue to expand your knowledge on that with understanding adaptation, understanding the importance of reverse dieting. Lane has a great guide on this.

Get on his stuff and check out his reverse dieting. There's a lot of really good information for a trainer in there on how you should take a client through this process. So I highly recommend that you just continue to push your education in this because this isn't going to stop. You're always, that is always the number one thing that I have to overcome with one of my clients that sits in front of me that is 30 pounds or more or even less overweight. And the first thing I zi tab them track and almost always, we do not go right to a cut. Almost always, it's about changing what they're eating and trying to introduce more calories

with their strength training is the first thing I always do. So I'm always having to explain this point. I just had a girl that I'm coaching right now who I bumped her calorie, she was, when I first got her same story, right now who I bumped her calorie, she was, when I first got her, same story, right? She'd overworked herself under eight, metallisms kind of slow or whatever. So I told her to the process.

And by the way, you got to explain the process to people. Let them know, like, okay, you're not going to lose weight for the first few months because here's what we're doing. You got to let people know ahead of time what's going to happen. You don't want them to be surprised. But same thing, same story, and she worked with me and little by little I got her to eat more and she's doing strength training. And then finally, I did another calorie bump on her. So I said, okay, I'm going to increase your calories by about 120 calories

a day. She's like, well, you know, still freaks me out every time we do this, but I trust you. So let's go ahead and do this. So she bumped them and three weeks later got a body fat test. She lost 2% body fat. She went up in calories and lost 2% body fat now at this point How difficult do you think it's gonna be for me to convince her to work in the way that I want it get it to work It's not that hard now. She's seeing it But initially you got to kind of explain it to people and get them to buy in and you got to keep explaining to them as you continue training them Next question is from febes creque and you got to keep explaining to them as you continue training them.

Next question is from Febes Kraeke. What do you consider or define as successful? How do you achieve success when it's hard to define? Only you can define it for yourself. It's individualized. You can't do not let anybody else define success for you because it'll be miserable. Some people say success is being happy.

Chasing happiness is the opposite of being happy because you're constantly chasing it. So I don't know if I would personally define it like that myself. For me, I define success as am I living a life that I believe to be worth living. Do I feel like there's meaning and purpose behind it? Do I feel driven throughout the day? Do I feel like there's meaning and purpose behind it? Do I feel driven throughout the day? Do I feel fulfilled and content? And that's it. At the moment, I'll be quite honest with you. I feel all of those things. Although I'm constantly searching to try to grow and get better at the things that I do. If everything were to stay as they were now forever,

would I be happy? Probably, I mean, I've got great friends, I've got great family, I love what I do, I get to come into the studio every day and talk my favorite thing to do, and that's my job, which is great. We've got great team working with us, and we're doing something that I believe in firmly. It doesn't mean I'm not always trying to grow.

It just means that I feel fulfilled at the moment, which is really good. Yeah. I think for me, if I assess, I mean, there's so many different things I could see whether or not I'm successful in or I've failed in or what I, like, I just want to know if I have been leveling up, if I have been leveling up if I have been Self-critical enough to where I can see progress in a lot of different avenues of my life And it's affected people around me and I've helped people to the best of my ability and you know I I can look back and be proud of you know things over all of where I ended up. But in terms of like, I've hit the ultimate success.

I don't know if I see a moment where I'm gonna be like, yes, you know? This is the time, right now is like the ultimate bitical because I still have the self-criticism and the daily motivation of trying to be better. And there's just way too many things that, again, we mentioned in the beginning of this episode on kind of a Debbie Downer part of the episode

where you kind of look up to people and you look up to like successful people that have accomplished something in like one direction to the ultimate, you know, level that they could possibly achieve, but then, you know, but what about the dark side of it? You know, what about the other, the unbalanced portion of that, you know, and it's like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if like, I'm going to evaluate I don't know, I don't know if like, I'm gonna evaluate me just hitting one thing as the ultimate pinnacle because I wanna go more

in a well-rounded approach. Well, everybody wants to be like the successful person, but nobody wants to do what it took to get to that point. I'm saying. And I don't even know if success is a real thing. Like success to me is, sounds like it's a destination and I don't believe being successful is a destination. I think it's an ongoing moving target

and I wanna be a successful person but I'm not searching for success. And so I think that's where a lot of people fail is they think it's this destination. They think that I need to get to a certain dollar amount. I need to get to a certain achievement in my sport. I need to get to a certain place because what ends up happening to all those people when they reach there is they don't feel successful. They reach that that pinnacle. They get to that point and a lot of them are unhappy like Justin was alluding to in their life. And so I don't think

success is a destination. I think it's an ongoing moving target and I'm always seeking that. Now that doesn't mean I don't think that I have. But the question is, are you enjoying the journey? Right, that's it. And so to me that is being successful, right? And you touched on it, Sal, is having purpose.

Like everything that I do, I mean, right now, swimming, right? That's a new goal, it's a new thing that I'm into. And I think I'm being successful right now. Because every time I get in that pool, I'm better than I was the day before. I'm watching myself progress. I'm enjoying the process. I'm loving it while I'm doing, even though it's hard.

And frustrating, I'm gasped, I'm gasped, I'm winded. I suck. I'm not very good at it, but I've learned to love those things. And that, to me, is actually the part of that that's successful. I'm being successful because I'm setting a goal for myself, I'm making daily improvements and I'm loving the process while I'm doing it. To me, that is what being successful is all about. And I think that carries, I use a simple dumb example like swimming, but that applies to much larger goals in your life too. And I think there's nothing wrong because I know everyone's kind of shying away from the money thing.

I've set many times in my life, I've set financial goals for myself where I wanna be financially, whether that be an annual income or saved a certain amount or bought something for myself. I don't see anything wrong with that either. I think there's nothing wrong with saying that, hey, I want to go out and buy this thing or I want to be at a

certain place financially. And that, to me, is defined success, the process to get there while I'm working there, but also remembering why you're in all this shit, and then you're in the middle of it, and it's hard, and you have setbacks, and you get frustrated, that's the shit you've got to learn to love, because that is being successful, because you're working towards something that you care about. It is and when you achieve something, it's only beautiful because of what it took to get there. It's never, a trophy is worth nothing. If I think of the things that I won at or whatever,

you could give me all those awards, but if I didn't do anything to earn them or get there, those awards would be nothing. They wouldn't be worth anything them or get there, those awards, there would be nothing, there would be worth anything. And when I think back at all my most fun memories, you know what I remember? The struggle, the journey, the work, the, all the stuff. And this reminds me of when people are like, oh, I wanna achieve the ultimate body,

and then I'll be happy. You know what, that's never gonna happen. The happiness you're gonna find, if you find it at all, is in the process. And then that's what's going to give you the side effect of having that great body. And the heart of the process, such a good points out. And the heart of the process,

I would argue the more success you'll feel from it. Always. Because I've done some things, and this is why too, that only you can define this, is there's been a lot of things in my life that somebody else might look at and go, wow, that was really successful. Or, wow, he made this much or he did that or he built this or he's been here. When I think of some of the things that like I remember going pro as a

men's physique guy, I've shared this on the show before, maybe one of the most epic successful moments feeling that way in my life. I was not making any money from it. It didn't do anything other than I achieved it. But what makes me feel that way is I know what it took and all the effort, the sacrifice, the rough mornings, the grinding, the consistency, the percentage of people that will actually go that far.

The difficulty of that is what made that so successful for me or made it feel like I was so successful for going through that. It really is. It's really the process part that really dictates how successful you are if it was fucking really easy to do then it probably wasn't that much success or that fulfilling for you, but the harder it was,

probably the more successful. Well, I mean, and look at like we were, like we all talked about that documentary, Don Wall or whatever. I guarantee you, a week after they finally accomplished a great thing, they were like, ah, that kind of sucks. You know, it's all done.

Like I'm done with that journey. I'm done with that. Yeah, now what? It's all about, it's all about the journey. So if you find, if you can find a way to enjoy the journey, success is already yours. It really is. It's really already there.

And like right now, I'm having a blast with the journey. That's why I made that statement. Like, I'm nothing ever changed. I'd be happy because I'm having, I'm just loving the whole process. Now the irony of that is when you love the process and you love the journey and you bust your ass at it because you love it so much, success is yours. One way or another, it's going to happen.

Next question is from Ricky Rondeneff. Have you ever felt like you failed your clients as a personal trainer? Oh, you picked this one. You can hit us right in the fields. Great. Yeah, I mean, honestly, I feel like I failed a majority of my clients for at least the first five years, at least the first five years at least the first five years and even the ones that had success I still think I failed them because in my early career I Was measuring my success as a trainer and their success as clients purely off of the goal They came in they gave me and then trying to push them to that so someone walks in they say Adam on those 20 pounds I trained them over the next six seven months in, they say, Adam, I'm on those 20 pounds,

I train them over the next six, seven months, they get to their 20 pounds, I had success. So I thought that was success, I thought that I was doing them a service, but what I have realized later on in my career is I actually failed a lot of those people because what I didn't do was I didn't instill new habits and change their lifestyle. I didn't, I didn't fundamentally do was I didn't instill new habits and change their lifestyle.

I didn't, I didn't fundamentally change them for the rest of your lives. What I did was I held them accountable to the knowledge that I had to get them to a certain place. And that as a personal trainer to me, that's the easiest part. We were just touching the surface in the beginning. I could totally echo that as being one of the,

I'm super critical of that, that whole process because of so motivated to provide this service that was asked of me. And I wanted to be the best at it. And I was only teaching them how to be dependent on me in that entire process. And I wasn't giving them the tools for them to then apply it and internalize it personally. And so yeah, it's kind of, it's rough because you do, I have run into one or two clients that I've had in the very beginning.

And it's kind of, it's tough because you can see that it didn't, like it's there, but it didn't really stick like the ones I had, you know, proceeding them. Well, I'm better now, I'm better now. Yeah, it's like come on, come back. You realize that you actually probably perpetuated the problem.

Of course. And you're right, Justin, like, I had a lot of clients that, that was the MO was you hired me, we kicked ass for six months, I got you in some of the best shape, then you went off on your own for like six months or a year, and then you came back to me when you got fat again and out of shape. And you knew it and I'm for business and it was time. It was, it was great for year, and then you came back to me when you got fat again and out of shape, and you knew it. It was great for business. And it was great for business, and so I fed into it.

That's just how it is, right? When you need me, without me, you can't get in shape, and it was better for my business that way, and I know there's trainers out that think that way. Well, you think it's better for your business, but the irony is you've got better. No, you're right. Yeah, because then what it turned into later on,

as I got better as a trainer is, I would train a client three days a week, and then they'd go down to two days a week, then they'd go down to one day a week, then they'd go to like once a month, and they would just, once a month, they'd come in and give them a new workout, but they would be very consistent on the round and keep, you know, the one time I felt like,

I was, I don't know, failing is the right word, but one of the hardest things I've ever done was doing a full transition to mind pump. At the time, the majority of the clients that I had been training had been with me for 10 plus years. So these were relationships I had with people that I mean think right now in your life, how many people do you see, you know, between one to three days a week and hang out with for a full hour for 10 years? Besides each other. Yeah, like nobody, right? Like these are people that I, and these were people that I took from complete novices,

never worked out, poor health, whatever, and I took them all the way to, you know, becoming or fitness became a part of their life, where they really understood nutrition for themselves. I saw these people have children, I saw their kids come into infants and then grow up, right in front of me, some of these kids now are adults. And it was hard to leave them because at the time, I was so afraid, like, fuck man,

like what am I, like I hope they can keep going, I hope, even though I knew I did a good job it was really really scary I felt really bad it was really pulling at me now the cool thing is this is four years later and I know a lot of these people I'm still in contact with them through social media and stuff and they're all still working out they're all still working out they're all still consistent and and I think I did a pretty damn good job, but at that time, it was really scary. But yeah, in the beginning, when I was a trainer in the beginning, man, it was tough. It was like everything that I, all the, my learning curves that I went through, my clients had

to go through too. So it's like, when I first became a trainer at the time, I was reading about, you know, heavy-duty training by Mike Manser. And his theory was, you go to the gym, you do one set to family or per body part or beyond, and then you're done, leave it alone. Set the gears in motion for muscle growth and then leave it alone, that was this whole thing.

You just need to go super intense. So I fucking train, I would train clients like that. They would come in and they'd hire me for an hour. We'd be done in 20 minutes, but they were fucking happy to be done because I was doing a hack squat with them with two and a half pound plates all the way down, and we're doing strip sets all the way. Oh no, one set to absolute failure,

then we're done with your legs. And I'm pretty sure I didn't do them. I'm pretty sure I didn't do them any good. I'm pretty sure they didn't get any benefit out of that. And so I would do shit like that. I'd make mistakes like that, or a client would ask me about diet. And so I'd say, oh,

if you eat two of these shakes a day and then just have one meal and these shakes are all complete nutrition, you're gonna be totally fine. And I did that to some people and all, I was misled as well and I was a young trainer. So I remember scoffing at clients that would tell me that they walk. I remember someone would ask me,

what do you guys do for what you're doing activity or finishing, but I walk for an hour a day or a day, I'm like, oh, you don't work out. Yeah, right, and I would not take them serious, and I never used to tell people that. And now it's like the first place I start. So very first place I start is to address their steps.

I'm like such a firm, and I think maybe why when you hear this show, there's certain things I think that probably even annoy our audience that way and I hope that if you've been listening to my Pump long enough that you know that that comes from a good place for us I know it may sound annoying because you know like for example I repeated irresistible the book a million times I've talked about tracking your food a million times for the first two weeks I've talked about only changing one thing but the reason why I think I speak so passionately

about these things, because I too was on the other side and I was fucking up and not doing that. And when I figured this out, it became a game changer as a trainer and it really, really truly started to help people. So, you know, the things that I used to scoff at and not even speak to are some of the things I spend most of the time, like steps

and sleep and this type of mitigating stress. I just never spoke to those things because again, I was so focused on the goal, and especially being a numbers guy like I am, I was so focused on the science and the numbers on how to get you to the goal you gave me versus, let me really dive into the psychology of you, learn all about you, learn what you're where you're at in your life, and then all the areas that I can slowly start to fundamentally change forever. Yeah, I was interesting to think back to it,

because for me it was like a total split and division of like one focus was very much more like, well, everything clinical. Like everything I've learned in a clinical setting, I need to apply this to each person that's like, sort of, you know, has some experience, the very little experience, you know, and so I would have them go through this,

you know, standing on one leg process and, you know, all these really ineffective exercises that I thought was like, you know, very much needed in order to gain stability and like go through this whole pyramid process, you know, through NSM and whatnot. And then on the other flip of that, I would get somebody that, you know,

was either thought they were an athlete or they're experienced and I would like, totally grind the shit out of them. And like way too intense, way too hard, and would try and teach them things that were way above their level because I thought, because I could do it, you could do it. You know, and this is a hard lesson I had to learn was like how to really, you know, peel that back and teach each step of that process that led me to where you have.

This is also where we battle people like our friends like Lane Norton who's a good buddy of ours, but we still don't agree on a lot of things. Because when you've been in the battle with these people for as long as we have, you know, there's certain, yeah, yes, okay, where the science is at with artificial sweeteners and shit like that, like we still don't know how bad it is for us. And we could say here in debate, round and round circles

on it is or it isn't, but what I fucking know for sure is the habits that that promotes in people. And when you justify it and you let and you give them the free pass that, hey, it's totally okay to eat bars and shakes and processed food all day long because as long as the macros fit, you're fucking fine. The problem with that message is what it does to 90% of the population. Does that mean that somebody who really understands nutrition can find a way to integrate those things

into their diet and still live in our life? Sure, but I'm trying to talk to the fucking masses. I'm trying to talk to the people that I've been helping my entire career. And those people don't even, they're not in touch with their body. And so when you eat something that hijacks your signals that make you think you're hungry or want more.

And find more ways to include it. Right, just natural. Yeah, I'd say the ones I feel the worst about, the clients that I feel the worst about, or the ones that, because when I first started, I was a super passionate, I'm gonna get everybody in shape

whether they like it or not type of attitude. And I feel the worst about the clients that I would blow out of the gym because I'd have these come to Jesus talks, I used to call it, where they come in and they're not progressing. And I'm gonna fucking hammer this person's gonna get in shape. And I'd sit down come to Jesus talks, I used to call it where they come in and they're not progressing and I'm gonna fucking hammer this, this person's gonna get in shape.

And I'd sit down and I'd blast them. And I had a few people cry. I had a few people cry, made me feel good, made my ego feel good, like yeah, you know, they know that they need to do this. And they didn't come back. You know what, I had a couple of them that never came back. I still think about them.

And I still think to myself, like, fuck, I failed you, man, because you were at least showing up, but you didn't meet my expectations, which were insane for you, knowing what I know now. That's terrible. The other ones I feel bad for, the ones I used to beat the crap out of, in the gym. That used to be a badge of honor.

It's still like that. By the way, one of the easiest ways for me to determine whether or not a trainer is very experienced and has had a career for a long time, or if they're new, is how hard they train. If I see a trainer beating the shit out of a person in the gym inappropriately, where I'm looking at the client and going, that is not a super fit athlete, hammering.

And yeah, you're having them jump up and down on benches and do circuits with all kinds of crazy shit and they're almost dying, and you look like an everyday, soccer mom or dude. Get up and go, come on. Yeah, I know I'm looking at a new trainer. Like, okay, that guy's not been training for longer than a year. Yeah.

This is what they think they need to do. On the flip side, the experienced trainers, the ones taking their time, understanding movement, correcting movement patterns, and the clients leave the gym, smiling, feeling happy versus looking like they just, they just, they just, they just, throw up. Yeah, exactly.

And I did that, man. I did that early on It was like it was funny to trainers. It's almost like you brag about it like dude. Do you see how I train my client? Yeah to throw up and I remember I client threw up once Went outside and puked because we were working out legs so hard You're gonna badger. Yeah, and you know and the trainers are like like fist bumping me like yeah Do you fucking you're a good trainer terrible trainer? What a shitty trainer? I was yeah, you know, the trainers are like like fist bumping me like yeah, dude you fucking you're a good trainer terrible trainer What a shitty trainer I was yeah, you know back then so if I trained with you back then my apologies I got a lot better. It's almost like that girl that you like made out with that was super hot

But you didn't know what the fuck you were doing and then much later you run into it explain. Yeah, I'm good at it now My first attempt like now that guy's Yeah. That's my first attempt. Like, no, that guy's gross. He should've seen the way he clanks my teeth. I weigh better now. It is weird tongue breed, I think. I didn't like it. Anyway, look, if you go to mindpumpfree.com,

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