Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 991: How to Bring Up Your Weaker Side, the Diet & Training Differences Between Men & Women, Muscle Preservation Tactics & MORE

Episode Date: March 20, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the misconceptions some people have about the difference between men’s and women’s training and nutrition, training your weaker side, how to maintain fitness without gaining more size and the most important things to keep in mind as an online trainer. The many benefits and durability of Felix Gray glasses. (4:38) That one time Sal got laser eye surgery. (8:00) The people of Ned doing things the RIGHT way + why quality matters. (10:58) Update on the Noxzema girl: Rebecca Gayheart in a threesome sex tape. (18:44) Why Adam is convinced Billions is the best show on TV. (20:58) The Wire: shows that changed the landscape of television. (24:05) Mind Pump recommends Waco - The Rules of Engagement on Prime Video. (25:48) Harvard University uncovers DNA switch that controls genes for whole-body regeneration. Would you want to be immortal? (29:18) Mind Pump ‘St. Patty’s Day’ Weekend Recap. (37:06) Live call in with Max Lugavere! His take on the recent egg study and how this is the classic case of why correlation does not equal causation. (45:50) #Quah question #1 – Can you guys talk about the misconceptions some people have about the difference between men’s and women’s training and nutrition? (53:02) #Quah question #2 – What do you recommend when training your weaker side? (1:05:57) #Quah question #3 – Once you met your muscle building goals, what should we do to maintain fitness without gaining more size? (1:12:20) #Quah question #4 – What are the most important things to keep in mind as an online trainer? (1:20:04) People Mentioned: Enzo Coglitore (@enzocog)  Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Products Mentioned: March Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic is ½ off!! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Felix Gray **FREE Shipping & FREE Returns** NED **15% off first purchase** Eric Dane/Rebecca Gayheart Threesome Sex Tape Surfaces | HuffPost Billions: Official Series Site | Showtime Amazon.com: Watch Waco: The Rules of Engagement | Prime Video Harvard University uncovers DNA switch that controls genes for whole-body regeneration Can Retirement Be a Depression Risk? | Patient Advice | US News Eggs: Three or more a week increase your risk of heart disease and early death, study says - CNN Prime Pro Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Mind Pump Free Resources

If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this super duper awesome episode of Mind Pump, Super Duperist. So look, for 50 minutes, we do our fun time conversation. Before we get into the fitness stuff. Here's what we talked about. We talk about Justin's bad eyesight. He's an old guy now.

Damn it. And how he's going to get the Felix Gray prescription blue blocking glasses. That's right, they make those. Slow down. Now we do work with Felix Gray. They are one of our sponsors. If you go to Felix Gray glasses, gray is spelled g-r-a-y, dot com, forward slash, mind pump, you'll get free shipping and free returns.

Then Adam talks about how he stepped on his glasses, what a clutz. I talked about my laser eye surgery. Sound like I was gonna be a superhero. Laser eyes. I got laser eyes. Then we talked about our call with Ned. Now they are the makers of the best quality,

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Then we talked again about the Nogzima girl. She had a sex tape back in 2009. Oh, very interesting. Apparently you can find it online if you look it up. Adam brought up the new season of billions on showtime. Oh, so good. Talked about the wire. And then I brought up Waco on Amazon Prime.

That shit's crazy. Yeah, you really crapped us out with that one. Spoiler alert, by the way, if you don't know your history, don't listen to this episode on that part there. We'll give away the spoiler a bit. Then we talked about a study on the DNA switch that Harvard researchers found that can turn on whole body regeneration.

That's right, you can grow new limbs, Justin. Sweet, finally. Then we talked about our St. Patrick's Day weekend, and then we called our friend Max Lugavir and asked him his opinion on this study that's circulating that talks about how eating eggs increases your risk of mortality. Then we get into the fitness question. First question was, what are the misconceptions about training men and women and the differences between training men and women and the differences between training men and women? There's a lot of marketing out there that says, this

workouts for women, this diets for men. Should you listen to them or is it just clever marketing? Next question, if you have a weaker side, how do you bring it up to match the stronger side? How do you balance your body out? We give some strategies in that part of this episode. Next question, once you've gotten to your fitness goals, what do I do to maintain my fitness? How do I keep myself where I'm at? I don't wanna improve anymore, I don't wanna look anymore, awesome, kinda sounds awesome to be you, whatever.

Give yourself a high five. So we give the best workout that you can do to not change in that part of the episode. And the final question, what are the most important things you need to do to be in a successful online coach and trainer? Also, this month, MAPS aesthetic, this is the Body Sculpting Body Building,

Physic Competitor, Bikini Competitor Program. It's a lot of volume, hard workouts, okay? So just putting it out there, hard workouts. That program's 50% off. It's half off. All you got to do is go to maps, fitnessproducts.com and use the code black50black50. Also, we have other programs on that site. And we have bundles, for example, we have something called a super bundle, which is a full year of workouts and exercise programming all planned out for you can find all of that at maps fitness products calm Teacher And it's teacher time. Oh, shit. You guys know I love this time of the week. Oh, yeah

Our winners for my iTunes are Brittany Butler, stronger every day OT KGJS HSUTH, the froggy Viking. And on Facebook, we have Heather Kosha and Jesse Aslan. It's a for Justin and I had a kid. Yeah. Right. Yeah. It's all of you are winners. Send a name I just read to iTunes at MindbuttMedia.com. Send your shirt size, your shipping address, include your Instagram handle, and we'll get that shirt right out to you. Yeah. Yeah. You and I were talking the other day, and we were talking about your getting prescription

glasses, and I suggested you why don't you just go through the Felix Gray, and I don't think you even thought of that. No, I didn't even think of that. I mean, have both of their glasses right now for nighttime and during the day. And it's funny because I've been, I love using it during the day for the computer, but I was switching them off and on

because I was like, oh, I was still getting a little bit of a headache because obviously I need glasses. And so I went through this whole process of testing them again. I was like, ooh, I was still getting a little bit of a headache because obviously I need glasses. Right. And so I went through this whole process of testing them again and it's depressing. It's like a little bit worse this time. So what's your vision? Do you know what they said? I don't remember. Yeah, I don't remember that.

So are you needed to drive? I do, I do need it to drive. Yeah. So I'm starting to wear them as a drive and then also every time that I'm reading something on the computer, I have to it to drive. So I'm starting to wear them as I drive, and then also every time that I'm reading something on the computer, I have to have them on. Yeah, the eyesight that, how you focus on things close to you, the muscles that help you do that start to lose their, I guess their elasticity or whatever.

So you're gonna have to be, you're gonna wear bifocals at one point. You can't see far away, can't see close. You can do the laser, I searchery. That's hell expensive. No, it's right. It's right. No, I'd rather do that.

You have it? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know you were a lot of poor. Dude, I had to work. Dude, you were a lot more poor. You're cool, like just looking right into lasers. Like this, I have to be able to. Sssss.

Yeah, that's not like that. No, it's worse. That's how I imagine it. No, so I did it. I did it. Let's see. I probably got my eyes done 13 years ago, back when they first. Wow.

Before they even threw it. Yeah, that was risky. I know. That is risky. Yeah, no, you know what they do. I stepped on my Felix Craze last night. No. Yeah, I did.

I stepped on him. Are they broken? No, I bent the shit out of him. And it was all frustrated and pissed. And then I thought I was, I thought they were gonna be done for it. I'm like, well, I already bent in my craze. Let's see if I can kind of bend it back. And I actually bent them right back.

Can't even tell. Oh, wow, they're pretty durable. Yeah, no, they're really durable. I don't recommend people step on their feelings, but I mean, they were in my lap. So I was watching TV. And I don't know what did I took them all for. And I set them in my lap. And then was watching TV, and I don't know what I took them off for, and I set them in my lap,

and then I got up to go get something, and it must have fell off on the floor, and then when I came back and I felt crunched, yeah, I was like, oh! So they didn't break? No. You think if Justin stepped on them, they wouldn't break? Yeah, you would be.

You would be. Yeah, I'm pretty good about not breaking. No, I mean, they're there are a lot more Durable than I would have expected so shout out to Felix Gray for making some glass Well, I couldn't find my night Felix Gray ones So I had to use my old school, you know blue blockers the orange ones fucking hate them. Oh Yeah, you know, yeah, I want you go when she once you get away from those it's hard to go back to those Well because you watch TV or whatever it was everything and the whole TV's everything's orange. Yeah, it changes all the colors

You look like a door. I was watching a documentary on nature thing. Yeah, I got fucking door You know, if you're at home, I don't know but I don't care about but I'm watching a nature TV show and One of the wonderful things about watching nature, you know, documentary the vibrant colors and so yeah, especially you know, 4k or whatever you like, whoa, but you put on the orange glasses and you're like, okay, okay, I see two colors. Doesn't look that great. Anyway, no, I got my I got laser eye surgery 13 years ago and you want to know what the process is like, it's actually not that bad. No, tell me because it yeah, I just seriously, I imagine like it's like the cyclops.

It hurts for like a day, doesn't it? Like 24 hours? It wasn't bad at all. I wanna hit your eyeballs. I kept thinking of what's that one, was it a clockwork or orange, were they have the guys eyes open? Making the force in them to watch it?

Yeah. That's what I was worried about. No, I went in there and they have you fill everything out and then they say, hey, would you like a volume? And I'm like, I went in there and they have you fill everything out and then they say, hey, would you like a volume? And I'm like, I'm not nervous, but sure I'll take a volume. So I took of it. Yeah, you can offer me it.

I mean, for free? Yeah, I'll do it. Cool. So you go in and they put eye drops in your eyes and then this thing holds your eye open. And the procedure is literally a minute. That's it. It's like a minute long. But you see the,

cause it holds your eye open and you're just laying there. You see the thing peel back. Ooh, the part of your eye. So all of a sudden they peel it back and everything's super cloudy. And you're like, oh shit, like I'm blind. Wow. And then the laser goes,

around your eye or whatever. And then they pull, peel it right back. And instantly. That's amazing. We can do that. Who the hell figured that out? It's amazing we could do that. You know what I mean?

Who's the first person to do that? Yeah. Yeah. You know that? I think this is going to do something. You know what I'm gonna do? No, and instantly when you come out of it, you can, I mean you see everything with a little halo.

You know when you go swimming too long in a pool? Yeah. You see that for like a day or two. But I went home, took a nap, opened my eyes, and I remember for the first time I was looking at a tree outside, and up until this point, trees just looked like green kind of past, or whatever. I'm like, last like a little blob.

All of a sudden I can see all the leaves. I was like, oh shit. Now it's a happy day. Yeah, and then I looked at people in their faces and I was like, everybody's got pimples. I remember, it's like going like four or five K or a- Dude, it was, everybody had like a Valencia filter on it.

I was seeing everybody in Photoshop. That's just like when the actors, they got all pissed because like everything went high-deaf. Yeah, obviously. And it's like before that they could do the filtering, like the makeup and all that. You didn't see all the cakes of makeup. You know, it's funny.

I remember the transition of, you know, before 4K, but when high death first came out, 1080p. And, you know, being a big sports guy, I'd be watching, like, and that's where I noticed the most, is the men's make, you could see the men's makeup line because the high death was, and so I, but there was like this, I don't know, probably a six month to a year process of like where they probably had to start doing the makeup different

because I'm sure. All the way down the neck. Yeah, and you probably had to go all the way down to the shirt. Right. Or even just like lightening up on it because it's like, hey, you know, TV has become so clear now. You can see, you can clearly see all the makeup products.

Well, that's how it was for me. I used to see people in their faces look kind of nice and smooth like you Photoshopped it. And then I got the eye surgery and all of a sudden a police face was wrinkled and pimpley Yeah, I was like holy shit the whole world looks worse. Like damn It was so much more attractive before or more beautiful or more. I look at it anyway Dude I really really really enjoyed that call we had with with Ned the other day. I like those guys I you know what I like about them. They're not full of shit. They are

these guys are doing it the right way like we were on the phone with and I want to tell the audience this because you are seeing a massive influx of hemp oil and CBD type products in the market. Most of which are bogus because real CBD is expensive. And so most of it's just garbage. But these guys know their shit and they're talking about all the benefits of the other cannabinoids, which I really appreciated. The terpenes, which are also the things that give hemp its aromatic properties.

Those things also have health benefits. Well, what was enlightening to me too is the extraction process. I know Adams talked about this on some levels as far as using butane and all these like is the common way to be able to do it cheaply. Well, this blew me away actually, where I like, I had questioned him when he said it

because I had never heard this. So when I was in the space and we were part of the the beginning of like the the the wax and the shatter and the clear and all this stuff that's now evolved and You know, we used to blow with butane everybody did because it was easy You know, you could go down to home depot you can make a at home kit and tube you get a coffee filter Get your shake and shit and throw it in there. Now you say blow with butane, what do you mean by that? So you make a, you make like this, you ever seen like a potato gun,

you know, the homemade one, like a few of those, yeah. Yeah, like at an add up. Have you really? Yeah, I have things are real, those are a real deal. And so you take like, you know, two cartridges, you take a PVC pipe that's about, you know, about yay long, so I'm about, I don't know, what's that four feet or so?

May three and a half, four feet long. And then you, you wrap a, we do a coffee filter on one end, and then you stuff it with all your trim and shake. And then you, and you have a cap on it that has just a tiny hole where the, the butane goes in and you blast the butane through it and the butane goes through it and then it kind of it freezes all the tricomes and crystals and everything off of it and then it drips through the filter and so what drips through the filter is the wax. It gets all that's a concentrate.

It falls off but then it melts again and then it's not that it then it freezes it off and liquefies it. So when you, the butane is so freezing cold that it drips the, you know, I can't fuck, I don't know what the science fucking word I am trying. I'm searching for here, right? Science word, where are you? So it's make one up, dude. Right. So it blows it. Yeah.

Right. I'll just make something. It blows it off and then it tickles it off it trips It's a trip it trips It trips through the filter and then you know Then you let it harden and then you heat it back up and then you whip the gases out of it That's on say what do you how do you get the butane out of it? You I mean what you do is I think it's like I can't remember the exact temperature But we we found the exact temperature,

but we found the exact temperature that these gases are that burn off. But then you don't want to get it so hot that it actually melts and melts the wax. So there's like a perfect temperature. You keep it on. I think it's like around 108 or some shit. I can't remember what it was. So there's, but so is it safe to say that there's always a little bit of always. So it's impossible to whip it all the way out. So 90, I would say 95. Well, back when I was doing it, I have 100% there was no 90. We, in fact, we were some of the first people that started to look into and

and I say first people in in the California in my area. So I don't know if there's some fucking kid out in Timbuktu that was doing this yet. But which is by the way a real place. I know I love that. Tim Buck too is a real place. I didn't know that. It's like a couple of years ago. No, I didn't know that. It's T-I-M-B-U-K-T-U or something like Tim Buck too. Is bum fuck Egypt a place to? Nope. That's that. Nope. B-F-E. That's depressing. B-F-E was a better one. So anyway. So anyways, back then, that was kind of like how you made this. And everybody pretty much did it this way. And then we find out that you're getting all this butane in and then you started getting clubs that were saying,

hey, we've heard that this has got this in it and it's not safe. And we're like, well, yeah, that's how everybody does it. And so then we started doing research on like, how else could we do this? Well, CO2 became like the elite way to do it. Now it was really expensive to get a CO2 machine to actually do this. So, you know, and at so at first we couldn't even forward to do it. We had to wait until we had made enough money to where we could afford these things, but

it was known as like, that was a big deal. That was a huge selling point when you could go to clubs later on and say, hey, ours is blown with CO2, which is the cleanest, purest form of that. So when he brought up the food grade ethanol, I had never heard of that. And that was unheard of, and I didn't know anybody that was doing that.

So the fact, I mean, it's good because the product that you use, how they extract the fact, I mean, it's good because the product that you use, how they extract the cannabinoids, how they extract all the, you know, the oil or whatever, it's important because some of that's in there. Yeah, it's going to find swaying the oil. Yeah. Exactly. And imagine consuming and if you can if you actually look up, like what butane does inside the bottle, like it doesn't get rid of it. No, it doesn't get rid of it. And you're like, it's, it'll forever be drinking gasoline.

Oh, it's so bad. That's why when this whole dabbing culture took off and I knew that's how all this stuff was being blown. And by the way, just because your shit was told, some fucking stoner kid behind the counter told you that this stuff has been done pure and clean. It's not regulated. It's not regulated and it's so much cheaper to blow with butane. So you know how many people say, it's not regulated. It's not regulated and it's so much cheaper

to blow with butane. So you know how many people say it's not blowing with butane, but it really is blowing with butane, all of them. Yeah, because how are you gonna blow with it? How's the average consumer gonna know? And how is the even the club, the club's not going back and checking that bullshit. So now I know like there's now more processes

that are happening where you take it and you get it tested and yada yada. So it's more competitive now too. But I mean you're I mean you're burning that off too with a blowtorch like that's just such a The way that they explained it the reason why they use the food grade ethanol is Is it's a better extraction process and it keeps it? He keeps the extract as closest possible to its natural forms

Not only it's adulterated the least that way. Not only that, but what I, when we were talking to Ned, what I was so impressed by was somebody who, you know, you're in the business of trying to make money, right? I get it. And the process that they're doing

is not only is it more expensive, but it's also way more time consuming. I mean, we could blow this stuff out with butane and a pipe we could have it ready to go by tomorrow Where their process takes like eight days just to get a batch through which you know time is money in business So for them to do things like that. I mean it just appreciate I appreciate the partnership and you know I'm glad you did the homework and research when we first Met with them because I know I was very skeptical because quality matters because think about this way. Let's say you're taking with them because I know I was very skeptical because of it. Well, quality matters, because think about it this way.

Let's say you're taking, you know, hemp oil because of its inzealitic properties. Let's say you like it because it helps relax you in your anxious individual, which is a lot of why a lot of people, the message is I'm getting, that's why a lot of people use it. But now let's imagine you're using this hemp oil that's, you know, blown through butane or whatever. And so you're consuming these small amounts of butane

over the course of months and months. Next thing you know, anxiety is worse. Now I feel like shit what's going on. I'm gonna blame the hemp oil or the cannabinoids. When the reality is because you have shit product, you have something that's not made very well. Quality makes a big difference. And it's not cheap, that's the thing. Quality is Anyway. So remember we talked about, was it last week, the Nogzima girl? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's the, so I was a great reference.

Did you get people messaging you? So yeah, people were messaging me, like, oh yeah, I fucking, we loved everybody who thought she was so hot. Then somebody sent me an article that, so her name is Rebecca Gayhart, forgot all about, I didn't even know her name, I just knew her is the Nogzima girl

Apparently she was in a three-some-sex tape that came out yeah that came out about 10 years ago Wow Yeah, you know who she was with that guy Eric Dane you know what that is? He's like a good looking actor dude He'll recognize him so he's actually a picture He looks kind of like Leonardo Capriol So her that guy and some other girl

had sex and videotaped internally and apparently when I was like ten, when was Paris Hilton's? Because Paris Hilton was like the first person that the sex tape thing started happening, right? That's a good question. What was that? So Paris Hilton, and I think so wasn't there rumors to

around like after that happened? How, how much more famous that she became in 2004. So it was with Paris Hilton then. Yeah. So Paris Hilton was first, right? So for sure, she was the first like, one night in Paris. And not the first person to make a sex tape.

But the first person, first person that ever got, that was a celebrity who got released and turned into a massive thing. Then I heard that a lot of these celebrities were doing that. Stage him. Stage him. St stage is the other girl. Is she like a crest, you know, toothpaste commercial girl?

Or was no, I don't know who the other girl was. That's a good question. Yeah, I'd be kind of, you know, this guy's like, yeah, I love these commercials. It doesn't say I got to find out. Double mint gum. There was there was a hot pair of twins that were in the double mint. The double mint.

Yeah, go that route. Yeah, you want to do that. That was that. Yeah, that was the one that I thought you were when you were trying to old commercials of hot shakes that was the first came to mind when the twins and double you pleasure with double man gone. Yeah, those commercials sounded they sounded terrible like what was the one? What's the yellow pack juicy fruit? juicy fruit. Yeah, juicy fruit is gonna move yeah. What did they say? Put in your pop it in your mouth. Oh yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, Hello pack, juicy fruit, juicy fruit. Juicy fruit is gonna move. Yeah.

What did they say, pop it in your mouth? It's not too, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. And you're popping in your mouth. Yeah, the whole song was like, oh. Yeah, it was very, it's talking about. It was very suggestive.

A little bit, it was a little bit. Oh, you know what, you know what I watched last night? Dude, I am convinced that billions is the best show on TV right now. Oh, I'm so jealous. you got episode one in, huh? Yeah, so it's Sunday nights show time. If you don't have show time, you can stream it for like 10 bucks a month.

Dude, that's been one of my favorite shows I've seen on TV. Bro, it's, you know, around, and here's a thing, like any TV series, when you start getting beyond three seasons, I feel like most writers can write like a really good three-season show. When you start getting to four and five and you get beyond that, it really starts to lose its luster to me. It's hard to keep up that long of a storyline that's

intriguing, that's not redundant, where it's just like, okay, it's the same shit just different. Especially the characters don't have that much depth to them. Right. So it's like, but this show, like they did a good job of like, man, it's just so much depth. Each one of the characters are so like crazy, like amounts of like backstories. Such a cool fucking show, man.

So it's season four and the episode one comes out, I'm just like so fucking good. I can't wait. What's interesting about the way that they're making these shows now is they're making them knowing that people will watch the episodes back to back. So you don't have to, you could tell the story much more in depth and not have to do the recap. Yeah, the recap every time's annoying.

Yeah, because you know, before you step the way to week or whatever. Although that's what, so that's how they are doing it. You have to wait. Like, so that's what's unique unique about so they're not releasing them all at once. No So what about the old seasons? Well, yeah, you could go watch old you could watch the old season I do find that kind of interesting like the strategy from Why showtime and HBO do this? You know, Netflix that's something that Netflix is figured out right what to your point Sounds that you know, they know that people binge watch it so instead of just really put it all out there Yeah, and so it's interesting to see HBO

Do you think it's cuz maybe HBO and showtime are like okay someone's just gonna pay for the month watch this whole season All ones and can't well you would think it would be for advertising purposes That's why you would assume but it's not that. You know, because you would think that the whole idea of one episode per week and how people coming back is that you're drawing them to that channel, they keep coming back this way, they can't just binge it forward through any sort of commercials or whatever,

but HBO and Showtime don't do commercials. Yeah. So, you know, when I sit down and I watch the one hour of billions, it's straight billions, and then I shut it off and I'm not watching anything. So what is the purpose of having me keep coming back to the channel every week? Why is that more beneficial? I'm not sure. Yeah, that's interesting I wonder if it's just old way of doing things I haven't changed yet, you know

I mean they are they're putting out this type of content first and then Netflix was trying to do the same But they again they allowed you to watch the entire season. That's really what, when you think about it, that's, Netflix is really just like a newer version of HBO Showtime. Like, that's, they were the first ones to really put money into creative like series and show like that. The documentary. Yeah, you remember when all that stuff first came out, man? I started to watch Wire again.

This is the fourth time I've watched that show, and I forget how much I like that. I, Katrina and I were turning our nephew onto watching that, and it's such a, you know, they did this thing on one of those shows where they talk about shows that really changed the landscape of television and that were like during times that where it was very taboo. And now that I'm rewatching it, I'm realizing that now because it, you know, this, they have a character in there that was like this gangster guy, but he was like super like gay

and aggressively, like aggressively, like you just had a different character that you would never back then. First of all, it was already taboo still. We are still in this weird phase of not everybody realizing there's fucking tons of fucking gay people in this world. So you still had that kind of going on in our culture. And then you cast a character who's like this badass fucking gangster and he's like openly gay,

making out with his partnership in front of all these other gangsters and you're like, it just blew people's mind. It's possible. You could be gangsters and you're like, it just blew people's mind like, huh? It's possible. You could be a gangster and you could be just, yeah, but you see that. And you know, then they talked about, you know, they're showing like a lot of talk around AIDS and stuff.

So they were doing a lot of things on that show. When did that show first come out? Oh my god, this was, uh, I don't know, maybe Doug can Google when the wire was, but it was, it was, they were the first ones to do this. Then they talked about that, like how groundbreaking that was. I remember the show got pulled off an air after the first season because of the shit

that they were showing in there. I know part of that was because they were showing basically how drug dealers can get away from being prosecuted by the... 2002, that's that old. Yeah, it's real old. Oh wow. It's so good. Yeah, it's real old. Oh, wow. It's so good.

Wow. I watched more of Waco. Oh, man. You got to finish that. I know I got to finish too. I've been watching it too. We're watching it last night and Jessica's like, they can't do that.

They can't do that. And I'm like, they did do that. What happened? This is the recap. I mean, the FBI or the ATF and the FBI literally went in there to fucking kill people. Yeah. They weren't the one who tried. No, they weren't even trying to like, let's settle this. Let's just start shooting and start blasting things. And it's crazy. It's a crazy story. It's crazy. The story that we got when that first happened. That's what that's to part

that. That blew my mind was how different it was from what I had thought like I remember I remember that I remember when that was all happening and Because I'm the way I'm getting my information is through the news. Yeah, I just chalked it up as this fucking crazy cult guy I got it got convinced all these people to do a mass suicide. Well, yeah And I was in the time of a lot of these cults with the, you know, the mass suicide, like the heaven's gate and like a gym Jones, yeah, Jim Jones and where everybody like took a Sinai or poison or whatever all together as a group and they all died and then you see this and I remember the only I remember seeing the news and I saw tank just like mowing through this building and then just this fire everywhere. And that's literally all I got in terms of my knowledge of Waco.

So this was like, holy shit. Like I was like, man, I was bummed out. It's a crazy situation because when you watch the beginning how the agents shoot the dog, which then the other agents hear the gunshot, so they start firing in the house. It comes war after that. He gets shot, he, you know, you know, David Kresh goes inside the house,

and then his guys, they're all armed, start firing back. What do you do at that point? Do you fire back? Even if it is the, you know, law enforcement, but they're shooting at you, even though, you know, and there's no cause, like it's a crazy, what a crazy, I'm watching the whole thing and I'm just so like, what the fuck,

I can't believe it's actually happened. It was a cragmyre. I don't know how. That's absolutely insane. Well, it's also too, like, how do you watch that and not support the second amendment, dude? How do you watch, how do you watch that and go, because that, I mean, you think that could happen to

a lot of people in a lot of different situations, and especially now seeing the way I'm folded, I go like, man, wow, we could actually get it that wrong where we send fucking military in and and hold somebody. If you put me in a building, which by the way, too, I didn't realize how many of those were like, that was his family. Like how many of those kids were like his kids and connected to him and related to him. You know, if I was in a building and I had that many of my family members and I don't give a fuck who it is that shootin on me like I'm fire Well, you know, you don't know what's kidding me. You don't know what's going on and you're just trying to protect it

There's been it's it is very very crazy. I mean the second amendment was specifically Included to protect against tyranny and I definitely don't advocate, you know It is very, very crazy. I mean, the second amendment was specifically included to protect against tyranny. And I definitely don't advocate, you know, using violent force against anybody, but what a crazy situation. And I'm not, you know, I don't wanna come across like I'm defending the guy.

I think he was crazy. I think that it was kind of cultish. I was very manipulative. But I don't see, there was no just the viable right to go in and kill a bunch of innocent people. Anyway, it's definitely one of the biggest black eyes on the FBI in history. Ugly, but it is hard to watch.

Anyway, dude, I got this, I think Enzo's the one that sent it. Kind of blew me away. I wanna read this to you guys real quick, cause it was a study from Harvard that got published. So Harvard University uncovers a DNA switch that controls genes for whole body regeneration. So they have found this switch in the DNA

that acts like a power switch, which can turn your abilities to regenerate on or off. this switch in the DNA that acts like a power switch, which can turn your abilities to regenerate on or off. What, dude? So, this is like Wolverine shit. Yeah, so theoretically, you know, if they figure out how this works or whatever, could they make you like a lizard?

Or you lose your, you know, you lose an arm or something like that and then you just start, or like what's his name, Deadpool? Where is this little baby arm comes out? What how crazy is that dude? Thank God for comics, right now We know what happens. Yeah, when we fuck with this stuff. Who's the who's the comic? Oh was the lizard. What's his name? Spider-Man'sville the spider-man villain exactly. That's why he saw that played out. Yeah No, I mean, it's it's what it's an interesting one right?

Why is it turned off in humans to begin with and why is it on in other animals? Because we have an ability to regenerate, but just limited, like if you, obviously get a cut, it'll grow, it'll heal, but if you cut your finger off it ain't coming back. Yeah. But some animals do have an crazy ability to regenerate.

They're confident that they found that link. They think so, dude. And this isn't just, I mean, this had to be multiple trials. And this is all three animal studies I'm assuming. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna look and see, well, I don't know. So check this out.

They discovered in the 1990s, scientists had discovered that there's a type of jellyfish that switches back and forth from being a baby to an adult. So they call it the immortal jellyfish. How do we know that? I don't know, I have no idea. I have no idea. Yeah, I like how you like that.

But there are jellyfish that do this, where they can basically, unless they get killed, or they starve, can live forever, essentially, because they just keep regenerating back over and over again. Yeah. How wild is that? We are going to be immortal. I, I, I, I, I, because they just keep regenerating back over and over again. Yeah. How wild is that? We are going to be immortal. I, I, I, I think that'll pose the some of the biggest challenges mankind has ever encountered. Yeah.

I don't think our psyche can handle that. Yeah. I don't know how to navigate through that. Would you not want to be immortal? What do you think? I, I, I think it would be. I would want to be. I don't know why I, I find it fascinating when people would say no. Like why wouldn't I, why? I think I would want to also. I think most people would want to, but I also, I think most I would want to be. I don't know why. I find it fascinating when people would say no.

Like why wouldn't I? Why? I think I would want to also. I think most people would want to. But I also. You'd be surprised a lot of people say no they don't. Well, I think it's because we inherently know that. Or they hate their lives.

You look, humans evolved with this kind of progression forever, right? Since the beginning. And imagine taking that away, would that change, you know, meaning wisdom, would that cause people to become depressed and, you know, well, yeah, when things are finite, it gives you like sort of a framework of like, well, if I'm going to work, it's going to be for this long. And if I have, I'm going to get vested in this,

going to be for this long. Now it's like open ended. Like, that's, I don't even, like our brains, I don't know, it'll take us a long time to wrap our head around. Do you think we would do more or less as a society? I think we would do less. Yeah, there'd be less of a hurry, right? There'd be no way.

Yeah, we'd do creative shoot. Yeah, if you knew you lived forever and you could stay young forever. I'll get to that. I'll have kids in a hundred years. I'll get to that later. I'm gonna party for a while. You know what I'm saying?

You won't retire, because that wouldn't make any sense. How can you retire? So you just have multiple careers. I still think retirement doesn't make sense. It's yeah. I mean, I take that back. It makes sense if you did dedicate, you know, 40 years of your life doing something you hate,

and I would understand why you'd be done with it after 40 years, but I think that that's, I think we see, I see examples and I'm seeing more of it now because I have a lot of friends that their parents are now retiring. Our parents are getting at that age. We're at that age now where our parents are starting to retire and a lot of the friends that we hang out with. And the most common thing I see right now is this depression that they go through where they have lost their

purpose. The kids are all, their kids are married and have kids and their grandparents now and they've saved up. They've worked so hard, invested just right to where they have mathematically figured it out that they can now, you know, live the rest of their lives without having to really worry or stress about an income to get by. And then it's kind of like, okay, what next? And everybody at first, all of them at first

would talk about, you know, can't wait to get there because they think of like, yeah, we're gonna travel and I'm gonna golf and I'm gonna do all these things and say I'm fish and then you're not needed. Well, and then you need struggle. Yeah, well, like the job or whatever opportunity you find yourself in, it's like, there's a need for you there. Well, and then you do those things, right?

Because maybe when you were in full work mode, you couldn't do 12 fishing trips in a year, and you couldn't do 15 golf courses in three months' time. But then now that you have all this free time, you do. And then it's kind of like, okay, now what? I've already did all that stuff that I couldn't do. Now I can do it whenever I want. Now I'm kind of over it.

Well, depression and death actually goes up. There's like a spike in it after people retire because they come home and- It's a dramatic spike. I know. It's a big, because I think you need something to drive you. And there needs to be a little bit of a challenge and structure and a little bit of a struggle. So imagine being immortal.

At some point, you have to imagine. At some point, you have to imagine you would get bored. At some point, I mean, I don't know how many years it would take, how many hundreds of years, but you may be like, okay, I've had a master's degree in all these different subjects. I've studied Buddhism, I've done this, I've done that. Like, I just bored, like I wanna go.

Yeah, it's interesting. I wonder if that would happen. If you can regenerate, like, that's like, the struggle is gonna be temporary, you know? It's like not anything you're doing isn't gonna be as like crazy and demanding and long term as it is now, you know? If I could just know that like,

I'm gonna destroy myself, but I can regenerate like I'm gonna have a totally different mentality. That's a good question. I mean, imagine if you could totally fix any damage you did to your body. Yeah. So there were no physical repercussions from anything you did, alcohol, drugs, you know, sex, motorcycle crash, whatever. How would people live? Yeah.

How do you guys think they would live? Oh whatever, how would people live? Yeah. How do you guys think they would live? We push limits for sure. Yeah. Because I mean, you still die, would. Yeah. People would want to find that threshold. Well, you know, where do I actually die?

You want to know it's a good comparison to that. So, and it's not nearly as insane, but for all human history, having sex came with the, whatever you want to call it, consequence or the result, potential result of getting pregnant, having a child, right? Having a baby. And then we invented birth control, where all of a sudden, for the first time, you had kind of this long-term preventative, and you could separate getting pregnant from sex. And that completely changed society,

completely changed how we viewed sex. It led to the sexual revolution of free love. People just like, yeah, we could just do, you know, kind of whatever we want. And now people are trying to have kind of going back and trying to revisit some of the old wisdom that came from, you know, maybe watching who, you know, who you have sex with

and being careful on stuff, but it's posed some challenges. So having a life with no potential physical risk, that would be like times of trillion. I could only imagine challenges. Who knows if it will good or bad? I don't think it'll be bad. I'm just saying it'll be different, you know what I'm saying? Totally.

And I could just imagine people being like, pff, all right, let's just do all the drugs today. It just happens. Did you guys do all the drugs today. It happens. Did you guys do anything for St. Paddy's? Did you, I had some whiskey. I was just saying, I thought I saw you post like a beer thing, once you're doing, did you drink? Well, I wore a shirt and I drank a lot of water.

Normally, what do you do all I did? Just the shirt. He was sitting on the couch with the green shirt. No pants on. Festive. Yeah, you don't need pants on the same Patrick's Day. You just need a drink. Just sit with your, yeah, you're weighing out.

No, I was like, I actually like to go out on the same Patrick's Day. Everybody's like friendly and having a good time. And I just, you know, I'm just not in that same kind of life style anymore. having a good time and I just, you know, I'm just not in that same kind of life, like style anymore. So I was just like hanging out and like, I was like, cheersing nobody, you know, just like putting it down the hatch.

Sean sad. I just picture on the couch with the shirt on. Whiskey, nobody's around singing like Irish, like bar songs all by myself. This is for you, Petty. Yeah. I down it. Yeah. And we went. We went to Singletaire.

Yeah, no, we didn't do. We went to Big Sur. We just drove up to Big Sur and Big Speed Bridge up there and very, very scenic, beautiful place. We got to Julie Fyfer Park. I think it is. I think that's the name of it. State Park over there in Big Sur.

Yeah. And we drive up there. And it was closed. Oh, why? So we go all the way over there. This Park over there in Big Sur. And we drive up there and it was closed. Oh, why? So we go all the way over there. This is because from the fires, I have no idea. Well, I think the storms, right?

So it was all closed, but nobody gave a fuck. Hell of people were jumping the, jumping the little gate and walking through. So like, let's do it. So we're walking through and you could see areas where the storm must have washed things down and the bathroom they're a tree fell in and smashed there whatever and then two rain and

literally I'm not even exaggerating as at least hundreds of people in this park nobody's listening there's there's 15 signs that say it's closed everywhere nobody cares everybody's in the park doing what they want two ranges come in and they're so flustered how do I know how many signs how many signs we have to put up it's closed the places closed And I remember I was laughing so hard so like you can't do shit. There's too many of us Are you gonna hurt us all at first thing I scared like you get bear spray? That's all they have right? Oh No, he was carrying a gun. Oh Make it ranger's guns this guy had a he was carrying a piece a Ranger Rick gets guns. I didn't think that I thought you had to

Nothing to get bear spray. No, no, he had a gun But what's he what are they gonna do? There was everybody you know, I mean so many people he's just like all flustered. How many signs? Oh, I got put up I'm like not enough like trying to scold everybody. Did he get everybody out there though? They're really leaving everybody was just kind of like okay And yeah, nobody gave a shit I parked my car in front of the gate like an asshole and just walk I parked my car in front of the gate like an asshole and just walked you know I was like I love it with that happens. You know what I'm saying, but anyway, what did you do anything on them? I had my godsens first birthday, so we were we were over in I know you got some

Yeah, I didn't either until a few months ago I do what did you baptize the prize? No, so my actually Jen and Justin asked Katrina and I Officially like we got gotta go down and actually, I guess there's paperwork and everything we gotta do. So this Catholic, are they Catholic? No, it's not even that, just it's not a matter of it being a religious thing.

It's that hey, if we die, we've never, we wanna make sure that our kids taking care of it. Oh yeah, that's funny, cause my other friend who's Catholic, I was like saying I took communion and all this is like, well you're not even Catholic. I'm like, it's not just for Catholics, bro. Mm.

Yeah, we've taken that to the other team. Yeah, the Godson thing isn't a religious thing as much as it is for a lot of people. I know it's not. It's just that, hey, you got to think about these things. Katrina and I fly together. We do think like so of Soda Day. And so they're like, hey, if anything ever happened to us,

we would like you and her to take care of our son if you be willing to do that. Of course, man. So yeah, no, that was just like a month ago. They did that. That's an honor. Yeah, no, it is, right? I think that's really cool.

And I think that, you know, I think that he would probably be that for me. And I haven't thought about any of these things until just recently, right? So this type of stuff has become conversation. And of course, when you first start, then this is what they said to me too, we were like going down the line like fan,

cause a lot of people think family first, right? You would think, like keep it within the family. But they're like, I don't know, my brother, my sister, they're kind of doing that stuff. They're like, honestly, like I would, I would way rather see my son with Adam and Katrina. And that is a major honor.

I guess that's just a testament to our character and who we are. Do you have any other God children? No, this is the first one. Yeah, this is first, this is for you, man. Yeah, it's first, first one. So I think that's really cool. And I think I would do the same thing with him

because I think we, a lot of our morals and our personality, a lot alike. And so when I think of like who I would want to raise my kid, my sister would probably be a close one too, because she's a lot like me. And so, and I love her husband, like they, I could see her. We could have the mind pump, just, you know, LLC be the God for, you know what I mean? Yeah. Something happened in my brain by my pump. One of us will. It's not true. Always. That's a big responsibility.

It's a big honor. In my family and in our culture and then of course in our, you know, Catholic religion, you're also supposed to be one of the spiritual leaders of that child. And then you, you, they have a, they have a special connection to you. So like in our family, they say that the child takes after the, the God parents. So whoever baptizes your kid, make sure that they, you know, somebody you want your kid to be like or whatever. Well, that's what I think of, right?

When I think of the God parents is like, you know, I have a lot of people that are friends or close family that I think could do a hell of a job and take care of my son. But I think of two, like, man, if I'm gonna have my boy take after somebody else's traits other than myself, that's kind of how I would think about it. Like who would I want to raise my kid and have the moral compass that I have and the ideas that I have?

Like I think that Justin and Janet are similar as far as their views and personality, how they would raise their kid, how they interact with their kid. And he's such a cool, I mean, he's one years old right now. And they got these new, they have these power wheels now, which I know the one year old you would think way too early, right? Because he can't push pedals or drive in that. But it's, it's remote control for the parent.

Oh my God. That's so terrific. Oh, it's probably has a Bluetooth radio in parent. Oh my God, that's so terrific. Oh, it's, bro, it has a Bluetooth radio in it. I mean, you go, how fast? Yeah, it goes, it goes really fast. And it's, it's, it looks like a full-size normal power will with the Bluetooth radio in it now. And he can move the steering wheel, hunk the horn,

but Justin controls it with the remote control. But he obviously thinks he's driving it, so it's hilarious Oh my god such a such a cool toy. That sounds that sounds like so much I mean I'm just thinking of all the shenanigans a dad would get into with his kid. Oh, you know, I mean He has a Single friend like figure this out. He starts like ramming you Make him go over jumps. I don't want to.

Some hot girl over there is just. Oh, sorry, my son bumped into you. I'm sorry about that. So there must have been, I'm sorry. There must have been 30 kids, you know, 20 something adults. I mean, they threw a big old, they had two, the jumpy houses on their front yard. And, you know, I was doing, they did a pinata. And I like doing the the pinata thing right and I was in charge of the row. You're doing the ballet? Is that what that's called? No, on the lay on. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm doing the rope thing right and

after and I must have been doing it for like 20 minutes I'm going like man this line in the line of kids just can't continue to look like it grew and afterwards I look over at my boy I'm like hey I don't recognize like half these fucking kids. So the party got so big and it was out in the front yard that it attracted like neighbor kids. Oh, that just came into the point. Yeah, and there was so many people that I didn't know and recognize there.

Anyways, I don't know all of my buddies, friends, and family that's connected to them. They're so typical to kids. Yeah, what in the hell? Totally. Yeah. They hear and invite it That's so typical to kids. Yeah, oh, one in the next. Totally. Yeah. They hear it uninvited. Right, they hear the parents like, okay, line up.

If you want to do the piano, line up. What was the pinata in a shape of? Oh, so his whole party was themed. Did you see my post? Yeah. I was, I wanted a boats and hose theme. Oh, yeah. I got you.

Shut down. No, so he's a big fisherman, right? So the whole theme was fish. so the the Pignata were fish they had like real tackle boxes that you opened up and they were all candies Of like fishing lures and so yeah, it was really great. It was I wonder how PETA I wonder if PETA gets mad that people hit like a fake animal. Yeah, I bet you nobody's mad about fish Yeah, nobody cares about fish. There's four bastards. Yeah, nobody cares about fish. They're not for real now. Yeah, they don't smile.

So anyway, you know what I want to do real quick? Is I wanted to, you know that study that came out last week that talked about how they correlated eggs, eating eggs to a higher risk of death. They did that big bullshit surveys, that whatever, that was talking about. Yeah. So I wanted to call max look of here and

Ask him his opinion because he's he's always real real well read on this time stuff. Yeah, so what do you guys think? I think that's awesome. You know if he's up enough on it yet. Yeah, yeah, well, I'm a tax. Let's let's see what he says all right Hello, oh maxi What's going on long time no speak speak. How you doing, bro? I'm doing pretty good. It's great to hear you guys. Your guys voices on this Monday morning. Did I wait? Did I wake you up, buddy? Yeah, long seen Patrick's day weekend. I didn't sleep in a man with this kind of stuff, you know, we've been talking about this egg study that came out that showed an increase in risk of mortality if people consumed whole eggs versus people who didn't. It was supposed to be this big study or whatever. What are your thoughts on it? Yeah, I mean, it's the classic case of correlation, not necessarily equalinging causation and yet the media has taken

the study and ran with it. When you look deeper into the study that was published in JAMA, the Journal of the American Medical Association, you can see that there are so many flaws to it. I mean, not even necessarily flaws, but just indications that this is not something that should cause you to alter your diet in any way. So, I mean, for one, the study had one, it was based on one food questionnaire given at enrollment, the time of enrollment in the study. Oh, it's a big one. Yeah, I mean, so that's basically like asking you about your dietary pattern

and then the follow-up, the average time of follow-up was 17 and a half years later. So, basically, it's like, think about how many times your diet is going to change over 17 years, right? And then trying to tether that to your health outcome. It just doesn't make any sense from a plausibility standpoint. So what you're saying is that they got the group of people, they asked them about their their diet like how many eggs a day do you probably eat and a bunch of other questions and a bunch of other questions and then 17 years later they follow up on them say hey what did you continue eating that is i don't understand what the follow up question looks like is the same questionnaire No they didn't give a follow up questionnaire they they basically related the answers that they received on the questionnaire related the answers that they received on that questionnaire with how their health did 17 and a half years later. So they looked at the number of people that had heart attacks

and they basically related that to the amount of eggs that they consumed 17 years prior and they used the number of eggs that they ate on average to come up with a cholesterol score. Now, what is your theory on why? Why do a study like this? Why are we trying to demonize egg yolks? I don't understand. What's your theory behind that?

Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure. It's the whole thing about dietary cholesterol and how it affects our blood cholesterol and more importantly, a risk for heart disease. It's complicated, but I mean the truth is that for the vast majority of people, dietary cholesterol has no impact on blood cholesterol. I mean, if you think about the fact that your liver produces four egg yolks worth of cholesterol every single day, then, you know, if you're eating two, three eggs every day, all

that's going to do is tell your liver to produce less cholesterol, because we actually need cholesterol. It's a vital nutrient for life. And the other danger with these kinds of studies is that eggs like meat are consumed in a way in this country that really ranges. I mean, it's a huge continuum. When you talk about eggs, like, are we measuring the amount of vegetable scrambles that people eat with extra virgin olive oil? Or are we looking? Are we measuring? Is that a surrogate marker for the amount of bacon, egg, and cheese croissant, which is that Americans are eating? Yeah.

Not that. Delicious. That's a great, that's a fantastic point that you're making there. And the other thing too that I was thinking two maxes, for the last 30 years, we've been, it's been hammered into our heads that, you know, eating whole eggs is bad for you. So you automatically kind of have a bias because for the last 30 years, the people that eat the most eggs are also the people that might disregard their health and other areas. Yeah, I mean, it's the same with, you know, people in this country that eat more meat also tends to smoke.

And we know that the meat consumed in this country is a very poor quality from animals that are essentially tortured in the industrial farming complex. And eggs are kind of no different. I mean, you know, they're consumed in a myriad of different ways. And it's their most frequently associated, I think, with, you know, egg and cheese sandwiches and the like. So this study I really would not, you know, these study scientists know that these studies are meant to basically stoke further research, but the problem is that media tends to take these sensational headlines and run with them and use scare tactics that basically cause anxiety in their

reader bases because that's what gets a person to sustain attention. And you know, having worked in media, I know that if it believes it leads, and so you are always gonna have media taking studies like this and using it to make you feel anxious about your dietary choices, because that's just what keeps you around and keeps you clicking. And so, but yeah, it's, if we look to more rigorous trials that have been done, which are a lot different than the association highlighted

by this study, I mean, we've seen that egg consumption can actually improve markers tied to cardiovascular disease. For example, eggs can raise HDL cholesterol. They can change LDL cholesterol to the large fluffy subtype, the pattern A subtype that is associated with protection against cardiovascular disease. So that's where really where trials come into play and come in handy because that's where you can really kind of get, you know, into things and assess, cause and effect. Well, I really appreciate you getting on the phone and answering this for us.

Max, you're kind of like our, you know, the guru on this kind of stuff, so we really appreciate you getting on the phone and answering this for us. Max, you're kind of like our, you know, our, the guru on this kind of stuff, so we really appreciate it. My pleasure, you guys. Love talking to you. Thanks, man. Have a good day, brother. Thanks, bye. This quaz brought to you by Organify. For those days, you fall short on getting your organic veggies or whole food nutrition. Organify fills the gap with laboratory-tested, certified, organic superfoods to help give your health a performance-the-edit edge.

Try Organify, totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organify.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MindPump for 20% off at checkout. Our first question is from Steve Neal. Can you guys talk about the misconceptions some people have about there being a difference between men's and women's training and nutrition? My wife has been hearing that men's fitness advice doesn't apply to women. This is just marketing. This is just marketing.

There are general differences between men and women in lots of different areas, but it all completely breaks down to the individual. And here's the thing, men and women respond the same to exercise. So there are no men exercises and women exercises. There is no men's nutrition and women's nutrition, although there may be different needs. But again, it's all down to the individual. This is 100% a marketing strategy, and the reason why it exists is because it works. We've been in a constant struggle for a while with people who want to market our fitness

products because they're like, hey, let's just say, let's do a maps program for women and we're like, there is no maps program for women. It's a workout for everybody. There is no difference, but they're like, you'll sell more if you do it for women. It's like, no, no, no, no, it's for everybody. So in this, you see this in everything, by the way. You go to the supplement store and they have Crateen for women. I've seen that before. It's like, it's Crateen. Pink and blue. And they changed the color and they changed the... Well, the marketing marketing is very similar to politics.

And the strategy is to divide and conquer. I mean, it's very, very similar to the way we handle politics. It's really funny to me. And I don't know if we're going to win this battle ever because it's obvious that men and women are different. And when you talk about hormones and things that play a role with building muscle and mood and sleep. And it's pretty easy to make a case that there should be a difference between men and women on the way we exercise. What was biological reasons why women will store more body fat? This is for a reason.

So it's tough because like you know, there'll be frustration there if like the weight You know, you see like your significant other maybe losing it like a little more like quickly and So there's there's that like you kind of notice things that are different along the process But in terms of like what actually works. It's it's a very similar formula I also think there's something that that people are always like wanting to Reach for a reason why they they're not seeing results or they're not seen changed for Following a diet or a program and there's a lot to be said about How marketers find these these buzz terms or ways to make you feel like oh, it's because I was following this thing That was for men and this is for me, you know like oh, this is something that I need to do like I knew there was a reason why I wasn't seeing results following with those guys were saying it's because I was following this thing that was for men. And this is for me, you know, like, oh, this is something that I need to do.

Like, I knew there was a reason why I wasn't seeing results following with those guys were saying, it's like, I need what these girls are going to tell me what to do. It's just, I don't know. It's, you want it when you do, when you do, it's undermining, I feel like it's, it's really, it is and it, it promotes myths.

There's a lot of myths in fitness and that's, and that just pushes and promotes it. A long time ago, gyms were places where men worked out, men wanted to lift weights and get stronger and train and that was a society, that was culture. And then gyms wanted to attract women. And so the way they did it is they created separate areas within their facilities that were women only, those were one within their facilities that were women only. It was one of the ways that they attracted women.

And they came up with terms like toned and sculpt and shape because at that time we associated lifting weights with looking like a huge male bodybuilder. And so women were like, I don't want to do that. That's very masculine. And so I said, no, no, don't worry about it. We have these women's machines that are pink and you won't, don't worry, don't lift like the guys. They're lifting heavy.

What you should do is just lots and lots and lots of reps and that'll just kind of burn the body fat off of air as your body and make you feel toned or whatever. And it's all bullshit, we know this, it's all, if you want to tone your body, lift heavy, just like if you want to build your body, but it's the same thing, toning is building. And so then later on,

gyms, women got a little bit more comfortable with weights and so they got rid of the women's only area. So now gyms, most gyms don't have a women's only area. Any more now, it's kind of like a big area. But there's still a lot of myths that float around. Like, you know, I don't want to lift weights because I don't want to look bulky, but I do want long lean muscles.

So what should I do? Oh, don't worry, I have this want to lift weights because I don't want to look bulky, but I do want long lean muscles. So what should I do? Oh, don't worry, I have this program. It's for women only. And when it comes to marketing, a very effective way of selling a product is by talking to a person, by putting them in a category, making them feel like you're speaking just to them.

So like, I could make a program that, you know, here's a fitness program. And if I sell it generally, I might have more difficulty selling it than if I say, this program is designed for men over the age of 40, or this program is designed for women, you know, who have children or something like that. And people who are following that category and look at this program, be like, this is the one for me. All the other programs for all these other people, but this one says specifically, it's for men over 40, therefore I'm gonna do this one.

Now, yeah, that's always gonna exist. And marketing has gotten so much more sophisticated now to where we can see behind a lot of, like, you know, more of the analytics in terms of, you know, where you live, like how old you are, do you have kids, Do you not have kids? Like, like what kind of magazines do you read? Like, so like peering into a lot of information

you're already receiving, if we can communicate in a way that sounds similar to what you are already sort of constructing in your own mind of how it goes, that's where they see opportunity to just present it like that to you. So it could be like pure crap or it could be like us where we're trying to find a way to present the information that sticks out where it resonates with you

but now you're exposed to better quality information. Now do you got, there are certain things, don't you guys think though, that women tend, like when you're talking about fitness goals, to get, let's just use the most common about fitness goals, like to get, you know, to let's just use the most common one, when almost everybody wants to lose body fat, right? So, lose body fat, get leaner. There are some common pitfalls and mistakes that men make and there's common pitfalls and

mistakes that I think women make. And so, there is a way, I think, to speak to men and women differently about exercise and nutrition. The irony is the stuff that I think that we talk about on this show, though, really applies to women. Most of my career, I trained women. I mean, 80% of my clients tell, or women. So when we talk about the things like the application of over intensity, fasting correctly,

not feeding the body enough, nutrient, Like when I think about those things, I'm really thinking about my female clients because it was very common that I would see this. I would see the, or the high repetitions and not letting cardioes the answer for everything. So there, I think there is something that we can talk about that there are some common, you know, mistakes that men make

and there's common mistakes that I think that women tend to make. And so I think you could speak to them differently about the common things, but in general, I think that- Wait, it just, look, at the end of the day, you're a personal trainer. A client comes in. You ask them questions. The question on the questionnaire that means the least to you is, are you a male or female?

That doesn't change anything. I'm gonna ask you your fitness history. How long you been working out? I'm gonna do an assessment. I'm gonna look at your posture. I'm gonna look at what your goals are. How are you moving when you, then it doesn't matter.

None of that matters because it's all down to the individual. And then the way I apply my exercise in training is based off of the individual. Has nothing to do whether or not you're a male or female. Now, are there different challenges? Yeah, I mean, especially if you have a baby and you're a woman, there's pelvic floor muscles, you need to strengthen, you know,

there's TVA activation that we may need to work on. There's things you're gonna say though that are going to spark or trigger the interest of a male and spark and trigger the interest of a female. Oh yeah, if I talk about getting big arms, I'm probably gonna talk to a male audience. Right. if I talk about getting big arms, I'm probably going to talk to a male audience. If I talk about building a rounder butt, getting jacked, more women are going to be into that.

And I get that. But the way that you apply your exercise doesn't change. Well, yeah. And the way that a guy, the way that a girl gets a rounder butt is the same that a guy would get a rounder butt. Or a bigger arm. The way that a girl would speed up her but is the same that a guy would get around her. Or a bigger arm. The way that a girl would speed up her metabolism is the same way that a male would speed up her metabolism.

That's right. It's just the terminology that you use to connect more with the male or the female. Or like I said, I think there's more, it's more likely if I have to sit down with a male or a female, I'm sitting down with a female. It's more likely that she has neglected strength training and probably over applied hypertrophy or endurance type training. It's just statistically speaking a majority of... Because they've been told...

Yes, they're still for some reason. Right. And I think that's why it's hard, like when you get a question like this, where you have someone, you know, a husband and wife, and the wife is just like, no, I need to listen to these girls that are giving me advice or these women that are telling me these things. And I think that's because whoever's providing that information

is doing a good job of connecting to her, whatever they're talking about, like, oh, she's like, oh, that is me. Oh, that is me, I've done that. Totally different descriptors, you know, things, like it's all about the language. I mean, but if you want to get down to like what actually works, it's very similar.

The formula is there for both. Like it works for both people. Yeah. So like, for example, if I sold a fat burning pill and I said, burns body fat, right? I'm going to get so much attention. More effective way to sell a pill would be like burns belly fat. All of a sudden, I'm gonna get way more attention

because people who are really sick of their belly fat, like I want that pill because it works on. So the pain points, right? Exactly. What was it? We were at a restaurant not that long ago and they were selling something on TV and I don't remember what it was

and I remember thinking it was absolutely brilliant. Do you guys remember it? And I'm like, oh, they're taking an old product and now they're changing the focus now making it. Do you guys remember what that was? I like, oh, they're taking an old product and now they're changing the focus now making it. Do you guys remember what that was? I don't, but I know the, what's the, there's biotin. I see, or no, bio freeze right now is one that's like a rebrand or something.

That's been around forever that you see coming around. We're seeing the, just the old school, like icy hot type of creams and things like that that have been around forever. I'm not talking about cool sculpting for a minute. No. No, are you guys, are you familiar with bio freeze? Yeah, I know that. like that that have been around. I'm sorry, I'm not cool sculpting for a minute. No. No, are you guys, are you familiar with bio-freeze? Yeah, I know that.

Yeah, that's been around forever and it's being rebranded, remarked, I think that's the biggest challenge that we have had on this show and building this company. I mean, we have this internal struggle that a lot of people don't know about that. If you listen to Mind Pump, like, okay, nobody deal, it's easy to communicate to you guys in a long form, right, to explain. But do that in an ad.

Yeah, do that in an ad, and attract somebody who's never heard of Mind Pump or any of us guys. Like, man, it's really, really tough. And, you know, it's tough because one, we want to keep our integrity, and that's very important. But two, we also want to grow this business and reach people that we're not reaching. And if you don't know that you don't know, it's really tough to grab that person.

And if you were to grab 10 random people off the street that don't know any better, I would argue that 9 out of 10 of them would say that exercise and nutrition is different for a woman than it is for a man. And so that's the fact of the matter is like, how challenging that is for us. And I get, so I get the pain that this person going through trying to convince them. And we need to be clear, there are general differences.

Women have general nutrient differences in terms of nutrient requirements. Generally, they're smaller, so they may need less calories, less proteins. They may respond a little bit more harshly to fasting than Ben-Dew. Men may need more zinc, for example, a mineral that tends to be, needs to be a little higher

in men. But at the end of the day, it goes down to the individual. If I'm looking at somebody, and I'm assessing the nutrition and workout, it doesn't matter what the general, whatever your gender is and whatever the general advice is for that, doesn't matter, it comes down to the individual. And when it comes to exercise, the rules apply.

And the rules are, if you want to build muscle and strength, you got to apply a heavy enough resistance and you got to train in a particular way, the exercises that are the most effective ones for most people are the most effective ones for most people, to build muscle and strength, you gotta apply a heavy enough resistance and you gotta train in a particular way. The exercises that are the most effective ones for most people are the most effective ones for most people regardless of gender. And those rules all apply. I'll tell you this much right now, I can tell you with pretty good certainty that if

a workout says for women, it's probably crap. I'm gonna put that out there right now, 100%. If I, you send me all the workouts, I say four women, and I can almost always guarantee that that workout is a shitty workout, and it's not as effective as one that would be made for everybody or whatever. All right.

Next question is from Justin Neal. What do you recommend when training your weaker side? Do you ever drop the weight or do fewer reps for your weaker side, or do ever drop the weight or do fewer reps for your weaker side or do you always train symmetrically? You know, I think it was you Adam that said this on an episode of WILEGO and I thought it was brilliant. Correct me if I'm wrong, but yes it was probably me. Unilateral training is always real good if you have a weaker side if it's significantly

weaker. So you know, one leg at a time, one arm at a time, dumbbells versus barbells. But something Adam said a while ago, which I thought was real smart was, do your first set with the weaker side, and then match it with your stronger side. So rather than constantly keeping the difference, let's say I can do three more reps with my rider

on the I can on my left, and trying to make my left do the three more reps that it can't do because my right can do it. Rather than doing that, do my left first, do as many as I can. And even if I feel like I can do more with my right, stop right there. Because the only way you're going to catch up is if you slow down the progress of one side and speed up the progress of the other. It won't, there will never become even if you just progress in both. You'll always be ahead by three reps or whatever.

And it'll balance out relatively quick if you do a good job of this. I definitely, I had this with my chest and I had it with my arms. Both, I had one significantly stronger, more developed on one side than the other. And this is exactly what kind of balanced that all out was. I just started doing a lot of unilateral training and I always started with the weaker,

less dominant side and I would take it right to where form broke down to. Like you said, don't try and squeeze out three more or push it to where your form is shitty. I take it with, I stick with perfect form, and the minute I start to fail, or I start to deviate the perfect form, I stop right there, and even if it was like a quarter rep, right? Like I did nine and one quarter. I couldn't even get a half of a rep.

Then when I do the dominant side, I do nine and a quarter. Like I literally stop it. Copy it. Yeah, copy it. I literally mirror it. Even if it feels like I can do three, four more reps. And if you stick with that and you're consistent with that for a while, you'll see it start to catch up.

And the reason why the unilateral training is so important is because it's hard for us to see this, but like, and we're just gonna use biceps and we're talking about them, is if you don't do the unilateral training and you go to do a straight bar curl or a camber curl, sometimes you don't realize it, but the dominant side is taking more of the load.

And so if you're constantly doing machine exercises and doing things with both your arms together or straight bar exercises where you're doing both arms together, what ends up happening is you don't even realize it, but the more dominant side is taking more of that load and you're not allowing to catch up. And it'll just always stay ahead.

You'll never have that balance. Yeah, so that's been the answer for me and it's worked well with all of my clients. And it does, like I said, if you're consistent with it for a few months, unless you have some crazy dramatic discrepancy, but it's typically normally a couple reps different.

Which is normal. I mean, everybody's right or left-handed. So you're gonna be, and really the strength difference, and I wanna be clear here, for most people, not all people, but for most people, the strength difference isn't necessarily a difference in muscle. It's more of a difference in skill.

Well, and it's never going to be completely balanced. I think it's good to have that in mind of trying to be able to lift a similar amount, but just because of all the patterns that you're doing consistently all day long, the priorities you have in terms of which arm or which leg that you're going to utilize the most force with. There's going to be a little bit of imbalances, but that's why it's good in the training process to address that. So to single it out with unilateral training is very essential, and this is why the argument of whether or not it has value, I'm all in on the unilateral,

and then also the bilateral to see how that training has helped to benefit the whole. I don't know what old time boxer was, because this is reminding me of a story. It might have been Jack Dempsey, but I might be wrong. But there was a boxer from Back then who was just a killer with his right hand and was doing well and knocking people out, but he never really became a champion.

And then he broke his right hand or his right arm. Dude, is this Rocky 3? No. No, it's just a left rock. But that was based on a true story, a true story not that not that literally you know what happened But but this box or broke his hand or his arm and then continued training and just practice with his left and then became so good With his left hand. Yeah, that he became a champion because you know being a south paw really fucks people It's interesting because I broke my arm my right arm twice in the same year when I was a kid and And- Lord, how did you trick off with the other hand?

I just, it was like natural. Like it. It was like a new friend that became an old friend. Yeah, like it was as great. But yeah, I got really proficient with my left arm and was actually started throwing. And I could actually, for a while there, for a brief moment, I was pitching left-handed and right- handed in a season and did, you know,

the thing is it wasn't like, I mean, it kind of took a little bit off the performance overall. Like, I used to be, I could throw a lot harder with my right arm. I noticed this. It was like, I could do a good job on both, but it kind of dropped my right arm down a little bit. It was interesting. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of theories as to why we evolved being one-handed. One of them is that because we're such specialists, especially with throwing, that it can divert more brain energy to one side and make more precise. But I mean, you can get really good and really strong with the other side if you allow it to catch up and you have to allow it to catch up. That's why I brought up what you said at them because I think a lot of people

are like, cool, you're in lateral training. But then they keep pushing the stronger arm like they always have. And so it's just always going to stay ahead. But you have to kind of let it trail back a little bit by matching the weaker arm. And that's where you'll see the balance come out. Hopefully. Next question is from Team PASIC. Once you've met your muscle building goals, what should we

do to maintain fitness without gaining more size? What is the rep range that we should stay in while trying to maintain and burn calories but not build size? So they just want to mean, what a great place to be. You know what I mean? Look in the mirror, I don't, I'm good. I don't want to change how I look. I just want to. This is where, you know, and this kind of takes me back to how I used to train, where I could see some value in somebody who's not trying to make a lot of change, doing a lot of creative workouts that are, you know,

very random as far as the how you train, where I would come in and every workout would look different and I'm doing plyometric work in there, I'm doing strength stuff in there, I'm doing hypertrophy stuff in there, far as the how you train where I would come in and every workout would look different and I'm doing plyometric work in there, I'm doing strength stuff in there, I'm doing hypertrophy stuff in there, I'm doing, you know, balance stability, should I'm doing all this crazy weird stuff just to challenge my body to be able to be resilient to all these different ways of throwing exercises at it. I'm not really progressing very far or changing my physique, but I'm challenging

it in different ways. I could see value in training that way. I could see just purely out of keeping your workouts fun and unique and different and sprinkling different stuff on it because you're not trying to gain more muscle or you're not trying to lose a bunch of body fat. Well, muscles either build or shrink. So this is something that's a kind of a reality. They don't maintain, like they don't just stay the same. Now, when you do stay the same,

what's happening is you're building and losing at an equal amount. So you're going through processes of building and losing and building and losing and that just kind of keeps your body steady. And the reason why that's important to note is, if you start to train to maintain, sometimes you'll start to lose your muscle as well. Now, I like what you said, Adam, I think changing your focus from how you look to just having fun.

Just go to the gym and enjoy yourself. Enjoy what you're doing. Stop taking the focus off your body. Now I'm just working out to enjoy my workouts and be okay with losing a little bit of muscle and performance and then ratcheting it back up to build it back. And so what's probably gonna happen is rather than just maintaining,

as you'll go through these little processes of, you know, increasing a little muscle, decreasing a little muscle because now you're doing maybe a more yoga or maybe less intensity. Oh, I want to build a little more muscle. Now I'm lifting heavier again. Now I'm going back down again. And you just kind of bounce up and down a little bit and change your focus, but have fun

with your workouts. This is such a great place to be. And this is where I want everybody to be. I always talk about getting to a place where you're working out for the sake of working out. You're not there to dramatically change. Oh, that was a great moment. And that's what it got me into unconventional training. It was like, I was at a time where,

I mean, I had, you know, like working out in the gym, I had that down. I had that down, I had, you know, barbell lifting down, like dumbbell lifting down, but then there was, you know, I saw people doing, you know, these things with, you know, the Olympic rings with, you know, kettlebells and m you know, the Olympic rings with, you know,

kettlebells and mace bells and all these types of things. I just thought it was cool. And you're moving your body, you're challenging your body in other ways. So, you know, yes, maintain through my regular type workouts, but I also was drawn to these new skills. And that was, that was a great time where I just had fun with that shit and realize it was benefiting my body and then bringing that back to my workouts. It's like, wow, my shoulder is even more

stable now. So, you know, there's just new skills, new attributes that you can kind of bring into the mix. Yeah, I think if you want to reach your destination, which many people never do, but if you've reached your, your, your aesthetic goals, you've built the muscle you want to build, like, I think my focus would become all about performance then, you know, like being able to utilize this, all this muscle that I've built now, like in different ways and explosive ways and endurance ways, and, you know, I would get create, this is where the creative workouts would come in, and I think it would be totally okay and fine to train this way.

I don't think that is the most methodical way to go after a specific goal. Like if someone came to say, I want to perform better or I want to build more muscle or I want to burn fat than phasing your program out and structuring it in a certain way. So you're seeing week over week change, I think there's a much better approach. But hey, if you're there, if you've got to that place, now my goal is enjoying my workout, and learning to challenge my body and finding ways

to express this new found muscle or this new penicule that I've reached with the amount of muscle that I've reached to obtain. I've had a lot of members who are in the space of gyms I've managed where they just come in and they just enjoy their workouts and a lot of them do a lot of outdoor stuff. That's what I noticed.

People who tend to be comfortable with where they're at. They'll come into the gym a couple days a week and then they'll be, oh, I do hikes the other days a week and I swim and I did some indoor rock climbing and I did some cycling. These are people that are literally just, and I'll tell you what, these are the most consistent people they'll ever find. No joke, people who don't have an aesthetic goal, who just work out and they enjoy it.

These are the people that tend to not stop working out. They just love doing it. That's why they do it all the time. You made a point, so I think it's important to reiterate is that you are always gaining or losing. And if you do reduce volume, there is a chance that you're going to see a little bit of muscle loss, right? It'll probably be so minimal if you're still training consistently the same. But if you are following a very structured program and you've scaled up to a certain amount

of volume, and that's what got this physique that you now have. And you go away from that, because now you want to enjoy high x or you want to get into swimming or you want to try plios in there, you want to just be creative and you work out. It's pretty inevitable that you're probably going to not maintain that exact same physique.

You might get other attributes that you may add, but it's inevitably, it'll probably lose a little bit. But at that point, if you've reached your, where you wanna be muscle wise, it's not gonna be so much that it's gonna bother you or you're gonna lose it all over. You're gaining your back, it's so weird. Yeah, exactly.

And if you could gain it right back. But, you know, and the other option too is to continue training how you are right now. I mean, you could technically follow your favorite maps program and you could continue to go through. We've phased it all up. I mean, because the big thing that you would want to be careful of, and I was just talking to my nephew about this the day is, you know, I've just found out that he's been in maps phase one for like six months, you know, and I like it. It's a fun one. Right. And I was and I was expecting what why it was so fun for him. You know, great point. He is never

trained, you know, doubles, triples, five reps. Like he'd never really gone for strength training. And he was just loving it. You know, he's hitting PRs like every week. And but what I told him, I said, well, you know, now that I know you've been doing it for that long, I'm sure you won or started to plateau quite a bit too You're probably also starting to encounter some achiness He's like, yeah, I know my knee here in this then I'm like, yeah, dude You just you've been in that for too long you need to walk through the other go through the other phases So if you're somebody who

Follows the maps programs and you and you love one in particular, whether it be performance or strong or black, or I mean, they're designed to wear, you could just keep rotating through them and you should maintain pretty good health and your joints shouldn't bother you and there's nothing wrong with doing that, especially if you've obtained the physique that you want.

Next question is from Miss Fit Nerdy. What are the most important things to keep in mind as an online trainer? This is getting, a lot of questions now on becoming an online coach. Well, I think they're growing field. Yeah, I also think we probably struck a nerve a little bit last week.

Was it last week when we talked about this? I think it's because we said, be unqualified people getting into the space. It's interesting. Yeah. And how we think think it's because we say, be unqualified, people getting into the space, it's interesting. Yeah. And how we think it's probably smart for most people to train people in person. I stand by that 100%.

I don't even think it's smart. I think it's necessary. I think it's irresponsible of us to become an online coach. I mean, there's always exceptions, right? But you're right. There's exceptions. There's exceptions to rules in everything that we do, right?

But for the vast majority of people, I think it's very irresponsible to online coach somebody. Because then at this point, you're only real experience of helping somebody get in shape as yourself. And then you're going to go from that to coaching people virtually, which is already an extreme challenge in comparison to coaching somebody in person. I mean, coaching someone in person is challenging. I mean, I spent most of my career being terrible at it just to get pretty good at it. And to try and skip that whole process and go right into telling people what they should do via email or DM or text message.

Like reading the cliff notes to some massively long journal versus somebody else who's gone through every single page of that knows it. Not just that, they've gone through every single page and then they've taken that information. And then they've applied it. And then they've applied it and then they've measured it. That's the part you can't read.

You have to go and you have to do that and see that. Well, I mean, to be honest, like this job or like being a trainer is really being a problem solver and knowing things and predicting things before they occur. And just because of like, you have to understand patterns. And you don't understand patterns until you literally like immerse yourself in it and go through each one of these individuals that present you

with so many different variables that throw you off, you get frustrated, but you know what? You learn every time like, oh wow, okay, I didn't even consider that this might have been a potential issue, you know, like with somebody who's coming in and they didn't even consider that this might have been a potential issue, you know, like with somebody who's coming in and they can't even, they can't even like sit up properly. So what do I do with this? I think that's, to me, it answered like, okay, what's the most important thing to keep

in mind as a long train? Well, the most important thing to keep in mind is that every single person you're going to talk to is going to be completely different. Yeah. And just because you've helped, you know, some girl that is 5'4 and, you know, works out four days a week and she loses body fat and loses weight on, you know, 1600 calories does not mean that the exact same body type, same age girl who trains the same amount is gonna be the same. There's no carbon copy. No, and that's the part where we can get really in trouble with coaching people online is assuming that,

oh yeah, I've trained, I've trained this person before. I've trained this type of a person before. Or this goal. Or yeah, exactly, because the goal looks the same or because the same sex, the same age the same weight Means that the the same rules are gonna apply like no, it's That's the that's the hardest part is recognizing that you still have to go through and do all the the dirty work and really figure out this person Individually and so the most important thing for me is the tracking

process that they have to go through for me then to what and this is why I make weight in the morning, weight in the evening, weight, weigh your water out and track all your food, track all your steps, consistently do that for weeks. And then I'm paying attention to to learn this person. I used to say this when coaching somebody online, I would never coach anybody for less than a minimum of three months. And it was because I said, man, the first six to eight weeks, you're just aggregating data. Yeah, I'm just learning who you are, you know,

just because I've trained. And three months is even shorter. Right, it takes you like six months to nine months. Right, and that's why it's a minimum of that because the first month or two is literally just me figuring out exactly who this person is, exactly how they respond when they eat a certain way, when they move a certain amount. So I can then take that information and come up with what I think is the best place for them to start towards whatever their goal is.

And again, like Sal said, just because somebody has the same goal, it doesn't mean that I'm going to take them in the same direction after that first month or two of learning about this person. No, I would say some other important things that you need to consider is what kind of an online trainer do you want to be? Do you want to be an online coach that just gives people macros and workouts? Like, okay, here's your goal. All right, how many calories you eating now? Here's your macros, here's your workouts.

You're off on your own, which is fine. That's one way to do it. The other way to do it is to be in daily contact with them. Hey, how you feeling? What's going on? How was your workout? Can you send me this video? Can you send me this video? Can you send me that video?

Much more in depth, much more in contact with the client. So determine what kind you're gonna be and then communicate that to the people you're working with. I do some coaching now. I'm not nearly as in contact with them as my partner Jessica is. She's the one that does the day-to-day talking with them, I kind of evaluate and help them with their workouts

and they know that. So you have to know what kind of coach you're gonna be and then express that because I've seen people getting trouble by saying one thing and doing another or people expecting something and getting something different. But those are the most important things. It's also, look, also understand this.

You're only gonna be able to coach the information that you get from the person. And when you're working with someone in person, it's much easier to get more information. If I'm training someone for an hour and we're face to face, it might take 40 minutes for the conversation to get to the point where I'm getting real good, deep understanding, understandings and information.

There's so much body information that you acquire just by watching them go through this process versus them trying to describe it. People are terrible at describing things to you about themselves to begin with. Well, my God, you'll ask people, how's your sleep? Oh, it's great. And then you'll be, you'll work with them and then you'll be, you'll find out that they wake up two or three times every night. And you know, it's like, wait, I thought you said

you had good sleep. The shone of bags under their eyes. Oh, I feel great. Yeah, no, no, I have good sleep. They have no idea. So you only good, coach is good as your information. And so I would say, learn to ask a lot of questions, learn to keep asking questions

because you'll get information that the person doesn't even know that you need. Oh, I think you have, it has to be mandatory that you make them track and log a lot of this stuff. And, you know, I also used to make them send me videos every time, like they were running through a map, Santa Bob program, like I want to see their squat, their deadlift, their overhead press, like I would make them video that to me and so that I could watch it. So you've got to get all this data and information before you can even try and provide really

good direction for them. And even then that's challenging because I'm not there. When I'm there coaching somebody through a squat, I can put hands on them. I can put hands on them and say, no, you need to feel this here or you need to pull this back here and I could like move them, you know, try doing that without seeing them. And then try doing that without even seeing a video like, huh, like that's not possible. Like, you're not like, you can't quote, quote, quote, squat to somebody who you don't see the squat. So that's, I think that's another necessary evil here is that you're an important thing that this you need to get from these people is, I want to see your major lifts on

video. So I can see how you're moving. I want to see all the information that I was talking about nutrition, water, and weight because then I can start to kind of pick up on okay and steps. Okay, I can see where your metabolism is at so that I know if I need to reverse diet you, maintain where we might be lacking nutrition wise, fiber wise. There's so many things that I need to gather in order to even be a decent reader. I would love to tack onto that, some kind of checklist of joints,

like have sort of a scale of how they're feeling and restrictions, tightness, pains, things like that. I'm always asking about that within the workouts because it's gonna reveal a lot of information in terms of how I'm even programming the workouts going forward Well, if you if you're an online trainer and you don't own maps prime and prime pro shame on you right away Because that I don't know how you could coach what without tools like that unless you make your own videos This was I mean we all collectively understood that that was a massive

You know need out there because we get all these questions, well, my wrist hurts when I do this, you know, my, my lower back is killing me for this. Like, we needed to come up with something that was pretty simple and straightforward, but it had real answers for them so that could go through it and like, be work on this. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that's a must. That's something that we put a lot of effort into to try and help simplify that. Yeah, I think, again, being a long-line coach is a difficult, it's difficult in different ways than training people in person.

It's growing, it's a growing field. So you're going to get a lot of bad trainers, but if you got to decide what kind of coach are you going to be, one isn't necessarily better than the other. I think one is more valuable than the other. My cost more are you going to be the one that just gives people instructions or are you going to actually try to personal train them virtually. And if you are, you need lots of information, you need, I had a client a while ago where I always ask everybody, do you have any food intolerances that you know of? Oh no, I'm fine, I can digest everything.

And of course later on, you know, oh, I get heartburn every night at 6 p.m. and I get bloating. And so they don't know, they don't know to communicate to me that they have a food intolerance because they haven't made the connection. And so I have to ask all these questions to get those answers.

Otherwise, you could, you know, oh, I have no problems at all with my joints. And then later on, you find out that every night I have to sleep a particular wake in my back hurts. And so if you wouldn't know if you don't ask those questions. Well, this is why too, I just, this is not a very scalable business. Not the way you really want to code.

No, when I was doing this, and that's why when I was around about 20 clients, it was really the most I could meant because most most these people, so when I was online coaching, I had more communication with my clients than I ever did with my clients that I saw in person. It was all day. Yeah, because I have to be constantly talking to them. And I would encourage it, it's to say, hey, if you have a question and you don't understand something, it texts me or let me, if you feel weird, text me.

So then we can talk about what you're going through, what you just ate, what you feel, what you notice. Like I need to know that stuff as you go through it so I can better guess because at the end of the day, I'm guessing, I'm not there, I don't know for sure. I mean, so I don't know what's going to happen in this space in the future. I'm trying to figure it out.

Is this going to be, are we going to evolve to be all online training and very few people will ever train in person anymore? I don't know. Are we just going to figure out all these things and are we going to evolve and get better at being these online coaches? I see a huge miss right now.

I see a lot of people that get in shape, build an audience of people that are following them because they look good themselves. And from there, they pivot into, I can be a health coach or an online fitness coach or whatever name we want to call it. And now they're advising people virtually. And not that it can't be done.

I mean, I've done it. I just think that it's much harder learning that way to be a good coach than to be actually seeing people in person. So it's gonna be an interesting next five to 10 years with the exploding Instagram models and trainers on what's this gonna turn out as far as how our people are gonna see results from this. I don't know if it'll last forever or not.

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