Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 993: How to Avoid Overtraining, Successfully Training Deconditioned Clients, the Value of College & MORE

Episode Date: March 22, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by MAPS Fitness Products (www.mapsfitnessproducts.com), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about the what constitutes overtraining, how to handle clients that are very deconditioned or have mobility issues, what they preach that they don’t practice enough and whether or not they will encourage their children to go to college. Organifi Pure gets the guys on FIRE and ready to go! (4:43) When did Adam start to lose his ‘luxurious’ locks? (6:30) Is brand loyalty still alive? Most Amazon brands are duds, not disrupters, study finds. Why quality matters, the importance of reviews & MORE. (13:19) Will Netflix go under?? Disney officially owns 21st Century Fox. The guys speculate on the fallout. (24:40) The future of gaming. Google unveils gaming platform Stadia, a competitor to Xbox, PlayStation, and PC. (27:08) The new frontier of Digital Wellness and creating practices around technology. (29:11) Housekeeping notes: Mind Pump switching platforms, new website & MORE. (40:55) Mind Pump & Mimosas: Live Q&A event. (42:13) #Quah question #1 – What constitutes overtraining? (44:25) #Quah question #2 – In the beginning of your career, how did you handle clients that were very deconditioned or had mobility issues? (54:34) #Quah question #3 - What do you preach that you don’t practice enough yourself? (1:02:47) #Quah question #4 – Will you encourage your children to go to college? Do you think there will be enough value to it by the time they are ready? (1:09:38) People Mentioned: Mike Matthews (@muscleforlifefitness)  Instagram Enzo Coglitore (@enzocog)  Instagram Products Mentioned: March Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic is ½ off!! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Organifi **Code “mindpump” for 20% off** Vuori Clothing **25% off** Won't You Be My Neighbor? Movie | Official Website Most Amazon Brands Are Duds, Not Disrupters, Study Finds - Bloomberg Disney-Fox Entertainment Merger Is Official In $71.3 Billion Deal Google Unveils Gaming Platform Stadia, A Competitor To Xbox, PlayStation And PC Microsoft Will Roll Out Video Game Streaming Service in 2019 | Fortune Mind Pump Episode 982: Improving Digital Wellness with Tommy Sobel Mind Pump Live – Register Now Prime Pro Bundle | MAPS Fitness Products - Mind Pump Mind Pump Free Resources

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In the beginning of our careers, we handled clients that were deconditioned or with mobility issues in particular ways, and that evolved as we got better. How do you handle people with mobility issues? How do you convince them to work on the mobility? Because all they wanna do is lose 30 pounds. Next question, what is something that we preach, but we don't practice?

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Yeah, every time. Well, we need to get more water bottles because we missed today here. I think I got it in my mind. It's the first day. Oh, you did? I mixed it in there. You're a dog, dude.

Well, you're hiding it from me. I do my thing, you know. I, I, I, they have to be one of their best sellers. It has to be. It's one of the best products I've tried. Did I tell you, I, I actually just, uh, Sean, I know she would get, I don't know, should get mad at me for talking about this.

We had to like read, negotiate, or identify contract because our code leaked out to one of those. coupon code sites. Yes, coupon code sites. So, and next month, I believe we're announcing the new code that we had to redo everything like that, which, you know, so they're still making us change the code?

Yeah, yeah, we have to change the code. It's going to be Mind Pump 20 is what it's going to be. So much. Yeah, it's not their lives. So if you're listening to episode right now, it's to Mind Pump Cove. And it will still exist. You'll still be able to use either one, but we had an arena go, shake the contract because they wanted to split that and separate it.

And I was like, well, that's going to screw us because there's going to be half of our audience that's been trained to use Mind Pump, they always use Mind Pump. Plus episodes are evergreen, they just live on the internet. Yeah, that was quite the hassle to go back. That's gonna be the new challenge for these companies is how are they gonna try, because it's gonna be like old school commercials because yeah, okay fine, we'll change our code, guess what's gonna happen. That new code's gonna be used on another, gonna's gonna throw that up on another website or whatever.

I mean, at the end of the day, it's went all the way around for them. I was saying it's just exposure. Yeah, yeah, so for real. Them it's a went all the way around, but it was the first, I think, first time that's happened to us that we had to kind of figure out our way around, how to navigate around that.

So that was an interesting thing. Congratulations to her, by the way, she just had her baby girl. Oh, it did, she did just have it. Did you see the pictures do a lot of hair, huh adorable, right so great. You just love kids What a miracle I do they're wonderful. I can't wait for yours to come that I'm pretty I'm pretty excited I'm it you know, it's neat to hear my we're just I'm gonna teach a kid all kinds of shit He's gonna come out all kinds of hair just despite I'm like I'm gonna fuck off Justin. I used to have, I used to have just,

oh, just locks. Beautiful. I remember. Beautiful. Gorgeous, full afro. Curly, yeah. No, luxurious hair. Yes, luxurious hair. Wavy. I would say, hold on a second. Wait, when did it start to thin? Not when it went, not when it got like where it's at now, but when did you notice it start to thin? About 26 is when I really start. Not necessarily. Yeah, so the funny part is it's Justin Jared and myself, there's three of us really, and Chris actually,

there was four of us all through high school that were like best of friends. And I remember the summer where the guys had said something to me. So I think I've told you guys had said something to me. So I think I've told you guys this before that when we'd wakeboard, we used to make these videos, like we'd film ourselves wakeboarding, and then we'd edit them and put music behind them.

Yeah, yeah, totally. It was the HS. Yeah. And I was the last one. So Chris went first. He started to go in high school, Jared went, his freshman year of college, Justin was around 24, 25, and then me, I was about 26, 27.

When it just started to happen, and the only way you could tell was when we used to go boating. And you heard him go wet? Yeah, my hair would get wet, and it would separate from the crown a little bit, and that was like the big joke amongst all of us, is we used to fuck with each other and take video clips of it. Yeah, hold on a second, they were started before you. Oh, yeah. Did you guys all grow up in the same area? big jump amongst all of us is we used to fuck with each other and take video clips of it. Yeah. Hold on a second. They were started before you. Oh, yeah.

Did you guys all grow up in the same area? Yeah. Because that's kind of early. I wonder if you guys were exposed and talked some or some shit. Maybe some pollution. Did they have a lot of like a body hair for, because my friend, like a couple of my friends

that went bald, like real early, like there was a first to get like, you know, the chest hair and all of them. I just remember like them having like the facial hair and everything before everybody and like sixth grade. And I was like, oh shit. It's all about DHT receptors and the density of them in your scalp. And if you have a lot of DHT receptors there and your high, maybe your DHT levels are

high, high testosterone, I'm sure. I was the first to get gray to go gray. Well, I'm pretty, all my friends, I'm pretty certain that it was messing with master on for me because up into that point, which is a, it's a steroid derived from D.H. Right. I'm also sounds like a cool heavy metal band. I'm almost certain that that was the main cause because up into that point, I never really noticed it.

And I had already messed with steroids before that in my even or younger 20s And I didn't get in and I didn't know what the fuck I was doing with master on I use master on and since then That's when I started to notice you were predisposed, but then you turned it on turbo That's what I think I think I think that I was I there was a good chance that I was gonna thin at one point And I think doing that in my early 20s just to kick that up. So they say that the pattern which you lose your hair will determine if you can stop it or slow it down or how much of a potential you have for slowing it down. If you tend to lose hair in the front and top, that's harder to stop.

If you lose it just in the back, they say that that's easier to slow down. If it's like, it just goes peak, like it's like a V. Dude, my brother, dude, my brother is like. It's like, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, it breads that way. No, my brother's started, man, it started going.

It means, yeah. And we tease him all the time about it. And he was making fun. You got white hair, Sal. And I'm like, will my white hair stays in my head. Yeah, you're just committing stuff. I would rather have grays than I would want losing. There's nothing you can do about that.

But I have the back. And I tell you what, ever since one, not taking any steroids or testosterone, for sure, never taking a master on ever again, I've kind of managed it where it's at. It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten really that much better. I've mentioned before using the tools like Juve

and you're using the Saul Paul Metal shampoo now. I am. We'll see if that does anything. It takes like a while of using it to know. Yeah, I'm very consistent with it. So since you gave it to me, I've been using it every single day and I'm about halfway through the bottle.

So we'll see. I think you gave it to me about a month ago. Yeah. And it has to be a myth. The whole like your mother side determines it is because yeah, dude, because everybody told me that and like, I mean, my, my grandpa was like, like super thin, like barely any hair. And then also like, I mean, my mom is kind of going really thin too. And my dad, super thick, you know, bushy hair.

Crazy. I was sitting with my daughter, we were watching TV, and I was kind of falling asleep a little bit, and that little shit, man, she starts pulling on my ear hair. She's like, what are you doing? She's like, why do you have hair there? Yeah. Yeah, I think she was expecting some kind of,

because I always explain things like, well, and human evolution, whatever. I had no explanation. I had no idea why that exists. No, it was here, Earhart, dude. So I was watching the Mr. Rogers. Finally, I watched that documentary. Amazing, amazing.

Oh, dude, I feel. It was my field, dude. Definitely, and I needed that after watching Waco in Michael Jackson and Michael Jackson I was like I felt like everybody in the world is evil and horrible Everybody's horrible right now. There was one beacon of light you know out there but What I was noticing was as he was aging his the bushy eyebrows were at a control

And I was like oh my god, I think that's happening to me. The court news called me out on it, and I'm like, oh shit. I'd take care of this, it's getting out of hand. Do you trim your eyebrow? Yeah, dude, I do. Otherwise, it would look like that. Like it would squirt.

It would squirt the bushy, get squirted. Yeah, it got like hedges, and just, I need to take care of this. It's, you know what, you gotta be careful, man. You fuck up a little bit, you're fucked. I know. Like you fuck up on one eyebrow. You gotta make it look like it was on purpose.

Like have like some lighting bolt thing in there or something like that. You look like a futuristic. Anytime you watch a futuristic movie ever noticing out weird eyebrows, pay attention. It's always some weird shit. Like what the fuck? Well the weirdest things when yeah, they shave it off

and then you're like, you can't like identify right away. What's wrong? It on you. You stare at them and you're like, you can't identify right away what's wrong. It on you, you stare at them and you're like, wait, they don't have eyebrows. They look surprised. Whoa. Yeah, I had a friend who passed out at a party. Here's a little tip for you.

Never pass out around your friends. Yeah. They will mess with, they will do terrible things to you. But this way, they passed out. And so of course, they shaved his eyebrows. So he woke up. He didn't even notice it for like a day or two. No.

No. He didn't notice it. Nobody two. No, no, nobody told him. Yeah, nobody said nothing. But horrible, dude. And yeah, and he was like, we took him much later. He's like, what the fuck? So what do you do then? Do you like take a sharpie and like, you know, pretend for a while? He's a guy, he just let him throw it.

He just let it happen. So I got to bring up something that we've talked about quite a few times on the show. So we're big on sharing things that we've been wrong, right? So I pride ourselves and pride myself and being somebody. First of all, speak for yourself. Yeah.

Maybe just to you, that was wrong. Yeah. Well, this is something I talked about and then you've actually doubled down on it. Since I've talked about that, and one of the things that we've said is that, you know, the whole idea of brands are dead. And this is kind of a cool thing to share with the audience

because this is like an internal argument that we have. So we have Taylor on the other side who is Mr. Brand guy. Like he is all about building the brand and creating a brand for Mind Pump. And one of the frustrations that I even have sometimes is like getting him out of that mentality sometimes with where things are going.

And so we've been talking for some time now on the show about companies like Amazon that they are destroying the old model of the importance of building this reputable brand because it won't matter in the future because everybody will search the five star thing. Well, this article comes out, I think it was yesterday and we'll have Jackie link in the show notes, but it's just talks about how they've done some research on all these brands like batteries and clothing and shit that Amazon is producing, you know, because they own the platform, they hack it and automatically put it towards the top

and it's getting a ton of sales and traction, but people are reviewing it not so great. And there's household brands and names that we're so used to, people are still staying loyal to it, because, and it makes sense because, and let's use clothing, for example, like, because they even try to get an hack into that space. And, you know, we work with a brand like Viori,

who, you can just tell by the quality of stuff that they create. Hands down, it's the best. Hands down. No, it's amazing. It fits comfortable, it looks great, you can tell the materials amazing. There's a wash it a bunch of times, it looks brand new every time. So you see brands like this and then you go like like man How are they gonna survive with Amazon who eventually if they wanted to one day all send get into that But if you've done a good job like I feel like a Viori has done as far as creating a solid brand And you've got a community enough people once you try it and you wear it like even us Let's say we weren't sponsored by Viori anymore. There's no doubt in my mind, I would still be buying it. Yeah, that's a hundred percent.

Because I've now, I've wore it, I loved it, it's great. It was a massive difference. I mean, and that was the thing too, with the whole merch side of things, you can find materials out there and you could just put a logo on it. It's not even going to compare to somebody who actually like, can tailor the fit to people's bodies. They understand what it takes for certain frictions, certain ways that it should stretch,

certain areas. And somebody who is up on culture. That too, obviously the fashion of it. What is the jack of all traits? But what part will we wrong on? I don't think we said that Amazon would, that all these, I think that the argument was that in the past for a new brand or an unknown brand

to penetrate the market was very hard, but now people look at reviews and even Amazon's products will get shitty reviews unless they lie. Yeah, and they somewhat do, right? They have control of what they want it. Sure, really some of that platform. Sure.

I don't even get very similar to Costco. I mean, it's like, I don't know. Like, maybe their quality isn't as good yet, but it's like, if it's a little bit cheap, there's always going to be people that will prefer something that's a little cheaper. That's a great example, Justin. Cause it's not like Costco has put

linarities at a business. No. It's not like, I mean, I, I, they didn't put out the, my, I forget the name of my store that I go to, and I see how funny it is that. I don't even remember the name of the market that I go to, but I, I'm so sold on the experience of going there because of how I, they make me feel when I walk in,

everything from the butcher to the person who greets me when I walk in to the person I that check out, I can't, I don't even remember the name of the company. No, Costco's not a great experience. No, it's not. No, it's a nightmare, right? It's a nightmare going on there, but you go there,

and so there's a bulk up on shit that's like the essentials, but like, you still want, even like produce, it's great sometimes, but like you're like, no dude, I want something from the CSA, I want something that local, or I want, you know, quality that's like perishable.

You know, like, well, one thing that Costco did well was they did their Kirkland brand, but here's what they was smart about. They didn't, they're not making the, in producing and manufacturing those products. They're buying them from people who already, so like their vodka is, you know, I forgot who their vodka was. If it was, I think it's sky or, or someone really good, they're buying it from them in bulk and then selling it through, through the way.

I don't think Amazon itself is gonna kill brands. I think they're gonna have the power to do kind of what Costco does buy from these brands, produce it themselves if the brands allow them to. But really what they've done is they flipped, the big part of the model that they flipped on their head was when I went to the store and I bought a supplement, for example, or a product, I went with familiarity.

Like I've used this before, I know it's good. I don't know. This new product looks interesting. It's got a nice label. Maybe I'll try it, but most likely I won't. But if I go on Amazon, I have reviews that I can read. Like I just bought a dust buster. You know a dust bbuster is a little vacuum.

And we were on there and Jessica heard that the Dyson one was great and Dyson's a great brand. It's got a lot of familiarity. I've used their price. Dyson's hilarious. They overengineered like everything. What's crazy. So good, good.

Like everybody's like, oh, they're the best, right? It's like I was like a fucking $250 dustbuster. And I'm like, look at this one on Amazon for 60 bucks. She's like, there's no way it's gonna be good. I'm like, okay, it's got 150 reviews. Let's read the reviews. And the reviews were all very positive. So I'm like, let's give it a shot and see if we like it.

And we got it. And I'm very satisfied. But if I didn't have that review process, no way I would have gone, I would have gone, yeah, sure. So it's gonna, it's gonna get, it going to tap into the people like you that are cheap and probably didn't own and didn't own a dust buster from Dyson before. But anybody who owned the dust buster from Dyson now maybe has something to compare to and they might tell you they might

say otherwise. But there's enough people like you who said, hey, it got the job done and I paid only $60 and that's good. And so what you're talking about is the option loyalty. And exactly. And that's what they're saying here is in this article, it talks about how important this brand loyalty is and people are becoming more savvy to that Amazon does own this, does have control of all this. And so they're not being as swayed

as what they initially were by the reviews. Like what we said is people are going like, okay, like no shit, it's number three. It's fucking Amazon's brand. No shit. It's got 5,000 five star plus views. It's Amazon's brand. That's not enough to sell me any as it was before on doing it, especially if it's something that I I already have been married to that brand like Dyson, but you bring up a good example. Maybe I've never owned a deskbuster before, and I'm thinking about buying one, and that review is enough to get me to try the $60 one, and I never know, I never experienced driving a Dyson. It's interesting to see what's happened to Yelp, right?

They were along those lines of reviews, like that was the standard. You know, that was like everybody would go to Yelp to like find out about like certain restaurants and certain businesses and it was like complete shenanigans like like people buying off bad reviews so that would just like bury the reviews like there's all kinds of shit going on with that yeah and it just got this this general mistrust I'm not saying Amazon has it yet all those gamers if it will those games are being played on Amazon right now. We talked to Mike Matthews about that a while ago. Right. Here's the future.

Okay. Reviews, 100%. The future of reviews is when Facebook is able to connect with these companies. And instead of seeing 100 reviews, you're going to see five reviews from people I know. Yeah. That's when the fucking shit's going to happen.

Yeah, if it's people like, yeah, like related to you or your friend or yeah, that's when it's going to change, you ever like related to you or a friend or yeah That's when it's gonna change when you're looking up a product and it's gonna pull up the products that friends that you know Well, you know if if Facebook ever collabs and actually does that which I don't know if I see that happening right now That's giving away some of Facebook's power because right now Facebook owns that power of the connection to the friends and the ability to do that And right now that's exactly what this article is arguing is that the power of brand connection to the friends and the ability to do that. And right now, that's exactly what this article is arguing is that the power of brand loyalty and with people like that is higher.

You, like, let's say, what if you were about to shop there and I told you, oh, don't waste your money on that cheap shit, trust me, do the fucking dice and one, it's worth the extra. So we go, oh, trust you. You would trust me, of course. Right, so even, so it would, that still supersedes the five-sorry.

Now, so what I mean is, so take it a step further, I think A, that's going to happen at some points, two valuables, two valuable of a tool for people to see, people that they know, review something, because I want to see what Justin said about this creatine. Yeah, but what if Facebook does that alone and doesn't collaborate? They might, but I think that that's gonna happen. The other thing that I think's gonna happen is they're also gonna start showing you reviews from people who are like you.

So rather than reading reviews from a bunch of different people, it's gonna be like, we should just start a review service. Yeah, that's it. As if we don't have enough. That's a great, great, great answer. Yeah, just do that. We should have been charged for it. That's a great, great, great, great, great. Yes, just do that.

We should invent that. It'll be reviews from like, menu or age interested in muscle building who've been working out for this long, or it'll be people who also like these other websites that you go to. So you can be listening to reviews from people who are more like you that I think

it's gonna keep getting more and more fine tune to that point. But ultimately, for 100%, I know me, if I see a product or whatever, and I see reviews from people I know, that I'm gonna trust way more than these random ones. Right, but I don't predict, or what I don't think is gonna happen is what you just said is that Facebook will integrate

with Amazon, that's giving up your power as Facebook. If anything, Facebook will try to create a competitive type of a platform with Amazon because they do know that, that you're right, that hey, friends, trust other friends, recommendations, more so than they can trust Amazon's five star rating revenue. This is why Facebook, for me, is such a, like this is a big buy.

Like when I talk to people about investments, I am by the way, no investment expert at all. So just take a little, it's definitely a long place. I, you have over, I don't know, how many billion people are on Facebook now, two billion, it is as a company, it has the most detailed information

on its customers and people by far. Now all these tech companies have all this information on you because they know how to track you and see what your purchasing habits are and what your searches are. Facebook has that plus it has all the voluntary shit. Plus it has all the articles. Political and as emotional, like it has like way too much information. Pictures, everything. That is so much power. I don't even think that people need to can comprehend what that can potentially mean for the future. So like in terms of investment, Facebook's a. I'm constantly investing in because I'm like with all that Of their nation constantly being conflict with the government the government's already paying attention to them

They're trying to fuck with them. It's it's like a dance that they're on on those notes of things that we're You know speculating on what's gonna happen company wise. What do you think is gonna happen with Netflix now? Is Netflix gonna go under? I think what's going on. I think so. Last night was the big signing, the official signing of Fox with Disney acquired Fox now. So Disney owns Fox, owns.

That is way more interesting. I'm fucking super interested in that. Justin and I were talking about this while you were on your interview. Man, look out. Look the fuck out, dude. Disney is on there. And, you know, I bought them too.

And Netflix has been, yeah, no, I'm in on them too. I, that was HubSpot and Disney is what we said this year is the two companies that I think I'm interested in watching more than anything else. And I really think that, you know, Netflix has leveraged the farm, dude, they have leveraged hard on buying people and content. They aren't this super profitable business as you would think they are.

You know what I love about this? It just goes to show you when you start to see these companies blow up and you're like, oh, they're gonna dominate the market. Competition. Competition comes in. It always fucking comes in with all these companies Here's what I think it's gonna be I think it's gonna be these are just networks like CBS NBC whatever and they're just gonna compete

And you're gonna be like hey, I watched this new show. Where'd you see it on Hulu? Oh awesome. Where'd you see it on prime? Okay, I said on Disney that's all yeah, you say that but Disney motherfucker bot like all the networks Dude, they just they just swooped up Fox and Hulu Dude, I heard somebody to like bring up a really interesting point about YouTube and that YouTube is getting so many views and The content is not necessary. They might have some paid for content, but not much. It's all Freely given and it's almost like it like it's almost like an outsourcing thing like or what do they call it open source? Well, we're providing the content for everybody's paying attention to it.

You know, talk about profitability like your margins there versus like somebody like Netflix that has to pay for, you know, the production. They have to pay for like this director. They have to pay for, you know, like so many things that like they're constantly gonna have to pay to play. You're gonna see a lot of new, up and coming content producers. You're gonna start to see the caliber, it's already exploding on YouTube,

but you're gonna see a lot of these independently funded and filmed, you know, videos and films uploaded to YouTube. Like here's where I'm gonna get my start, and then when they get good, good and good. And then, well, speaking of YouTube, because that's Google, right? Google, did you see what Google just did with gaming? They just put their hat in the ring

for to come after Xbox and PlayStation. Oh, they're doing like a console? No, it's console free. That's what you do. And it's streaming in 4K. Oh, shit. And it's multiplayer worldwide. I mean, you have like controllers it's streaming in 4k. Oh shit. And it's multiplayer world wide. I mean, you have like controllers and everything they offer.

But yeah, oh, it can be controller or controller free. Or controller free. It can be streamed to your phone. It can be streamed to your computer. Any system. They promise it's going to go up to 8k. Yeah. Like, what does that even mean?

Yeah. What the fuck? They're going to see the future. You see, you see atoms? I'm really curious though to see how Google This is and this is not like the first time this has been attempted and by the way I know I'm saying that Google's doing this Microsoft has plans also by the end of this year to to release its You know competitive

You know, it's I forget what it's called and I don't even remember the name and Jack Jack you will Link this article for the actual. So not Xbox, another gaming streaming. It is streaming, so the future of gaming, the one knock on video game consoles right now, is it's like a massive computer, right? It's a console. Yeah, it's a big console that you have to have,

and so wherever you go, where the future is to be able to game like that with your friends worldwide anywhere at that that great of you know speed and clarity on your phone or TV without this. And so with your talking about what you're going to be able to do imagine the advertising on this too. So they they say that you'll be able to imagine your kid playing on the stream, up pops this new game that advertises to them. They will be able to, right away, link and play it. Well, right away, click it, go through.

Oh, I'm going through the download. Yes, it's whatever. It's downloading anything instantly streamed right away, and then you'll see a bump sell for $50 by the whole game now. But it's all cloud-based gaming innocence. What a time to be alive. I mean, it's insane.

This is so crazy. The advancements are just moving so quick. So fast. Actually, I remember, so this morning I was on an interview and one of the questions that I was asked was, what do you think is on the, like, the new frontier of fitness, health and wellness? Like, what are the things that you think

health and wellness you're gonna have to focus on on and hands down 100% its digital wellness. It's going to be on how to manage all this tech, how to develop practices around all this tech because I see that being the biggest health challenge now or the new big health challenge that we're all going to be facing because think about how it's just like anything else. We're so inundated with this incredible advancements and technology and we have no practices around them. Nothing, we don't even know how much of a detriment, certain practices can and can't be.

So we just kinda like open the floodgates, use it, go for it, have a good time. And the scary part is that the speed at which it's compounding. So when you think of exercise, if we were to go back, you know, 5,000, 2,000 years, go back just a thousand years, and if they were to able to see what we're doing for exercise, they would laugh at us. Yeah, because you didn't go to, right, you didn't have to.

And really that, would it took for Jim and exercise to happen involved, I mean, have a practice. Right, you didn't have to. And really that, what it took for Jim and exercise to happen involved, I mean, that was decades. It was a lot of, it was a lot of side effects. Yeah, slowly though, right? It wasn't like all sudden we were this healthy nation that did exercise and we did these laborious jobs. And then the next day, we were literally sitting on our asses all day long and we were all obese and fat.

This has been something, it's been something we've been watching escalate decade over decade over decade. It's taken time for us to become so sedentary and so overweight. And this is fast. This is, that's what's scary about these fasts. We went from just 10 years ago, nobody really carrying a phone in their pocket or maybe a little bit long on that now, right?

So it's 15 years. Yeah, 15 years ago, nobody even really had a phone in their pocket too. Not only do you every single person, including Bums, today have a phone in their pocket, but now you're fucking glued to it. You're glued to it for multiple hours a day. It's sucking you.

So, wow, and just in a decade's time, we see that. That's why I think this message, we need to spearhead this, we need to hammer this home, because this is now. I wanna start a monthly, I wanna start a monthly thing from Mind Pump, where we shut down tech for a day. Once a month. Once a month, we start off that, we announce a day, we let our audience know that, hey, we're going dark.

For one day, one day, can you discipline yourself as a person to not be on your fucking phone and your computer and your TV all day long and you know, and encourage people to just do anything but that. Go be social, go read a book, go take a walk, go spend time with the family. It's a digital fast, just like fasting from food, it'll give you better perspective.

It's really all it's gonna do. Because technology's not bad, technology is not good or bad, it's like any other tool, any tool. If I take a hammer, a tool can do great things about things that depends out its wielding. It's about analyzing your own behavior with it, right? For the most part, with fast, for me, specifically, it was enlightening in terms of how I scheduled food,

how I felt like I was hungry, but I wasn't really hungry. It revealed a lot of interesting information to me about my own behaviors with food and how I constructed my day around. At the bottom line is today, if you wanna be healthy with your nutrition, you have to have practices, you have to.

Because if you just go out and just eat and do whatever, you're gonna end up in trouble because food is everywhere, it's really, really good. There's all kinds of amazing flavors. You don't have to worry about, you know, not having food or you don't have to worry about any of that. You just eat as much as you want. So you have to have practices.

You have to develop a particular relationship with food. You have to understand it. 5,000 years ago, you wait what you killed and it was all fucking healthy because that's how we evolved. With food today, you have to have practices. With activity today, you have to have practices. I'm saying this right now, with technology,

if you wanna be healthy, you have to have practices around your use. I find myself and it fucking blows me away. I find myself, sometimes I'll get on my phone and I'm going back and forth between platforms. I just checked in Instagram. I'm going back to Instagram. Now I'm going to Facebook and I'm checking my email.

What's on my text? Go over here, boom, boom, boom, boom. And before I know it, an hour and a half has gone and it was mindless. It wasn't even intentional leisure. You know what I'm saying? No, wait, that's a little fun. Look what the thing that I've noticed,

because I've been trying to put some of these practices in place already for myself. And I've been playing with it, allowing myself, not allowing myself, paying attention to, and the biggest thing that I see that suffers more than anything, because like, I guess who cares? If you're all by yourself somewhere and you've got an hour to two hours of burn,

who am I to say, you shouldn't do it on Instagram or whatever, but where I'm noticing it, starting to bleed into my conversations, my relationships with other people, and primarily with my partner. I see how distracted I am when I allow my phone to even be close to me. Katrina's in the kitchen, she's cooking,

we're kind of talking about her day, and my phone's right there. You guys are texting Instagram notifications or popping up, and I'm doing it while she's also telling me my day. And I can see how distracted I am. And many times she catches me and she's like, did you even hear what I just said? And I'm like, fuck, bro, how dare,

and then what I realize is, and that transfers into the whole rest of the night. Then they come bedtime like the intimacy and the catch connection just isn't there because I've been distracted all day and I haven't been focused on my partner. I put the thing away as soon as I come home and then I allow and it takes a while I notice this like it is not like I set my phone down that also numb this ultra present person I'm into our conversation and then the romance all starts no it's like it takes a little bit of detoxification from it to get my mind completely separate from

it and actually forget about it. Well dude, here's what happens, okay? So when you're getting these constant dopamine hits, your brain starts to adapt to these dopamine hits by reacting less to these dopamine hits. So this happens with all dopamine releases, whether it's a drug or novelty, you go have sex with a bunch of random people, dopamine, dopamine, dopamine, you keep doing it, keep doing it,

that dopamine becomes less and less as your body adapts. Here's the problem with that. You start to model your brain after that, and then guess what happens when you don't have dopamine around you. Boredom and being bored becomes much fucking worse. It becomes more painful to be bored than it used to be. And I noticed this.

I used to be able to stand in line at the grocery store and you know, look around and think a little bit. If I stand in line now and I don't have a phone, it's painful. It changes how you perceive being quiet. Now, here's a thing that's happening right now. There's an explosion of anxiety, an explosion of depression, especially among the youth. And you can see that the charts will show you

cell phone usage, you know, smartphone usage, and depression and anxiety among children. Going through the roof, I think a big part of that is these, you were busy with nonsense all the time, not having that quiet time, not being distracted. And so you're in this hyper state of dopamine all the time, that is a recipe for anxiety. So now I'm not saying that these things are bad.

I do think that leisure, I think going on your phone, checking Instagram, Facebook, reading, nothing wrong with that, but make it intentional. Okay, I'm intentionally gonna have some lazy leisure time right now for the next 30 minutes. Just like eating bad food or not being active. It's the same thing. I wonder.

You just need to have practices. Yeah, I wonder if it's like, because I notice that too, like it sucks. It sucks. It's really tough to kind of just stand there and stare at something. Like how much of that time, like that quiet time though, you know, us like putting all this busy shit in between that has stifled creativity, has stifled innovation, like all

these like ideas that you need time to formulate, to, you know, put it all together and your mind does that all subconsciously, like you're not like really all the time in control of that. You need to open up that process and it's like we're fucking just inundated with all this like nonsense, just like look at this, look at this light, look at this thing, look at that thing. Here's an easy one, practice this, try this. When you go to the bathroom, don't take your phone with you.

And I know right now people are listening like, oh, fuck that, I don't wanna go. Now, here what you're thinking, you're really freaked out about taking a 10 minute shit without your phone because that's gonna suck so bad, it's 10 minutes. It's 10 minutes and it's suck so bad with that. I know people who will stop half shit,

wipe their ass, go out, get their phone, go back in and finish. Yeah. Everybody's laughing, but I guarantee you a lot of you guys have done that. I haven't done something that bad. I have walked upstairs and go say shit though, realize I didn't have my phone went all the way back downstairs to get my phone back in.

I pinched it and went and got it and then came back. You got a serious problem. You got to break the back in. You got to break mid shit to go get your phone. My point is, take your phone. How do you know you're not it? Don't take your phone and get back in there and if that freaks you out you know that this is a practice you

probably need to do I told I don't know if I share this on the podcast you know after we had the Tommy Sobel was that was his name yeah that came on with the the brick whatever episode what I love about having Inzo he's such a self-aware kid and he's so intelligent and he's only 17 and so to have somebody on the staff that is that young that also listens to all the Mind Pump episodes gives us a really good pulse on that generation coming up and he said, man Adam, after I listened to that episode, he goes, I felt really compelled to start to discipline myself to put my phone away.

He goes, he goes, when I hit about 15 minutes, I can't take it anymore. I go 15, what do you mean? You can't go 15 minutes all day without looking at you. He goes, yeah, he goes, I start to get anxiety when I don't have my phone for 15 minutes. Fuck, and this is self-aware kid, right? This is a kid who is open to learning,

open to growing, open to being a better person. That's very mature at 17 years old. Not a lot of kids are gonna grow up with it. I mean, what do you know otherwise? Right, it's part of you. It's part of you. We're kind of the last generation that really knows what it's like to be bored.

And I want to be careful, I want to be careful and not try to promote the idea that it's all bad. It's not bad, it's a part of our lives, it's a powerful tool. It isn't going away. Same thing we do about food. I feel like I think that's such a great analogy. We're not, you know, there's ways for you to accept

that there are very bad habits within it. And there's things to say that there's, okay, it's okay to indulge and do things at certain points. It's all about developing practices. And so I hope we can start to come up with some solid ones, promote them to people and practice them ourselves, just like we've designed workout programs

and come up with ways and strategies to get yourself to eat better in an easier way. I think there needs to be some tech practices. And I think the effects will be wide reaching and long lasting. I've already done a few myself. I've done very stupid, simple ones. I don't take the phone on the bathroom with me anymore

and I leave it plugged in in one spot on my house and I don't look at my phone for the first 40 minutes to an hour when I wake up. Those three, small things, huge difference. The whole do not disturb is I'm driving game changing so far. Yep, love it. It's crazy, right?

Yeah, things like that. So stupid like that was built in there, but nobody's been advertising it. Yeah, it's crazy. So I want to make a quick announcement. We're switching platforms for our website and where you get your programs and stuff. So there may be some possible disruptions unlikely.

But if there are, please don't. Yeah, we're not officially alive, but we will be going possible disruptions unlikely, but if there are, please, uh, Yeah, we're not officially live, but we will be going officially live this week, which is exciting As hell because it's a complete, uh, re-facing, complete re-facing that I'm, I've seen lots Of the website already. It's fucking awesome. We've separated the podcast from the program and the fitness product. So I think it's going to be easier to navigate I think it'd be easier to connect with us. I think it's going to be the UI is amazing. It looks amazing. I'm so pumped about it It was a huge huge project for us that we've been working on over the last six months It should it will go live by the end of this month or earlier. And just, we really appreciate,

and there's very good chances that someone will find a misspelled word somewhere or find a broken link somewhere. So we appreciate if anybody does run into that to email us at info at myimplantmedia.com and just let us know what you guys see so we can fix it as soon as possible. But, you know, we've been running it and practicing with it for the last month or two

to make sure that it's good to go and we should be up and live really soon here. Another announcement that's really exciting is our tailor has put this together. So first time we're doing something like this. We're excited about this. We're doing this in our hometown. It's in San Jose. It's on 420. Okay.

So it's April April April April 20th. It's a Saturday. It's going to be from 12 to 4pm. It's called Mind Pump and Mimosas. We're going to do a live Q&A where there'll be it's at this place called SP2. It's a San Pedro Square in downtown San Jose and Beautiful place outdoor. Hopefully we'll have hopefully the weather will be great for us And like I said, they'll be serving mimosa's there'll be other drinks and stuff if you want to order those It this will be the first event that we're we're charging obviously It's not free for us to do all this stuff. So we're not trying to make money on it It's only $20 to reserve your spot. We will cap it at 100 people.

Once we get to 100 people, that'll pretty much fill up the space completely. And the website is live to go there and book your reservations if you wanna come. It's at minepumplive.com. So if you go to minepumplive.com, you can reserve your spot. It's April 20th on Saturday from 12 to 4 p.m.

It'll be a live Q&A with us. Get to interact, hang out, drink, have some mimosas and have a good time with us. If this is something that goes over really well, people really enjoy it. This is kind of falling into that promise that we're trying to make to get out in the community more. This will be something that we potentially do every single month with people. If we have a great showing and it goes accordingly and people like it, we hope to do it on a regular basis. It's going to be a blast. Yeah. We call it. We call it.

We call it. We call it. To lose calls brought to you by Max and the Bollocks. If you're looking to maximize your overall muscle and strength, Max and the Bollocks is the perfect place to start with a full The first question is from Kyla Elise. You guys talk a lot about the dangers of overtraining. If I work a sedentary job and do a program like MAPS split with MAPS hit sprinkled in, is that really overtraining if I sit eight hours a day

and generally do not get more than seven thousand steps? Now this is funny that this is how people would correlate. I know, I know the Southern interpret the whole. Yeah, that's interesting to me. What a great I'm glad you picked this question because I I would that's not how this what this means like no you could be completely Sedentary and never move all day and then very much so Over-trained over-training is is what you're doing within that hour over applied intensity. And in fact, somebody who is the more sedentary or the more subject you are to overdoing it. Of course, the people that can handle the most volume and load and intensity

are the ones whose bodies are trained and adapted to lots of volume and load. So here's the thing, overtraining is extremely individual. It's all based on the person. And it's all based on your ability to recover from the insult. It's based off of how much other stress is in your life. And it's also based on how your body responds to that stress. So I'll give you an example of what I'm talking about.

Let's say Justin and I are driving home from work and we almost get in a car accident. We almost get in a car accident. Like we're almost at someone, car spins, we're on the side of the freeway, we almost die. We get out of the car, a little freaked out, get back in the car, drive home. When we get home, I can't stop thinking about it.

It scared the shadow of me, I saw my life flash before my eyes. Oh my God, I almost lost my kids. Just in on the other hand, is like, well, that was, who stood again? We survived, big deal. And he's on with it. That same insult is gonna affect us differently. So it's also how you react and respond

to the stresses in your life as well. All of these play a role in your ability to handle the workout. So why is this important to understand? Well, it means that a workout that I can normally handle today may not be the same workout I can handle tomorrow. Because maybe tonight I have some stressful event or maybe my nutrition is off, for example. Maybe my diet is terrible.

That's another big one. Like I notice when my diet is on point, when I'm getting adequate protein, when my foods are whole and natural for the most part, when I'm eating in a slight surplus, the workload I can handle is way higher than when I'm on a cut, or my diet is bad, or my sleep is off, or I'm all stressed out.

So, we talk about the dangers of over training Because we're communicating oftentimes to these you know fitness fanatics And it there's probably less of these people and there are the people who don't move enough But that's why this is a challenging message. It's a challenging message because it really does depend on who I'm communicating, right? Like if you're somebody who is addicted to the gym and you don't eat enough calories and you train like crazy, like my message to you is completely different than the person who eats like shit, never moves. But still though, okay, the person who doesn't eat very well or like this person who does

only take 7,000 steps or less a day, you are more likely to over train by doing something like this than the person who has a very physical job moves 15 to 20,000 steps a day already consistently trains five to six days a week and has done that for five years of their life. Them training maps split and sprinkled and hit is less likely to be over training than the person who doesn't do a lot of exercise Doesn't move a lot and is trying to throw too much at it. I don't understand Why there's still people in the audience that hasn't figured this piece out and I've said it enough times You should have it fucking tattooed on you, okay?

Our goal is to do as little as possible to elicit the most amount of change. I like how you're in non-seated that too. Right, so. So, if you are trying to get to a point, which there's nothing wrong, if you have built up to being able to handle maps split and maps hit, which is a ton of volume, and I would never recommend that somebody starts here at all, I think that's a total mistake. But there's nothing wrong with working up to that.

So what that would look like, maps anabolic, maps performance, maps aesthetic, maps split, then maps split with a little bit of hit sprinkled in. You know what that takes to get there? That's about a year and a half of training. If you follow each program to a T like that, then it should take you a year and a half to build up to that volume.

And what's beautiful if you've done it in that chronological order, like we designed the programs that way, when you get to map split and hip, you should be at your ultimate goal of what your physique and you wanna look like or be like. To me, this highlights the misconception that basically any type of magazine workout, or any kind of chalkboard workout, or any kind of carbon copy type workout, if I'm going to look at this as a math

equation, I'm not moving this many steps. So therefore I need to make up for that and I'm going to get it all in in this like really condensed amount of time. And this is something I do think a lot of people have this idea and they don't realize that all those factors that you're trying to mention that like in terms of like your body being able to adapt, there's a sweet spot. And when you exceed that sweet spot, now all we're doing is we're eliminating the ability for your body to really adjust and create this new standard, you know, throughout your body. We're just now telling your body like, oh my God, this is gonna happen

and now I gotta freak out and weather the storm. Yeah, you're such a good point. After you pass the sweet spot of the right amount of working out in intensity and you go past it, all you're doing now is compromising your ability to adapt and recover. That's all you're doing.

At that point, you're not getting any more results. Does that make sense? So let's say my potential for getting my muscles to build and burn body fat and adapt is a 10. Once I've hit the 10 with the perfect workout, which is different from person to person in this entirely context-driven, once I've hit that 10,

if I throw more at my body, I don't go up any higher, it can't. It doesn't go up any higher. All I've done now is slow down the process more and more and more. So, it's very important to train smart. Training harder is not training smarter. Only training smarter is training smarter.

I would never want to be doing split with hit combined unless I am at where I want to be. I would want to be my ultimate physique and now I just love to train. I love being in the gym so much that I'm sprinkling some hit training in there. I love doing split. I'm basically training six to seven days a week in the gym.

I have my ultimate physique. I'm not trying to make any change. At this point, I'm just loving what I'm doing. You most certainly would not want to be doing split and hit together on your journey of health or on your journey to getting really fit or on your journey to build muscle or to burn a bunch of body fat. Like, that is a ton of volume and a ton of training to be thinking that your body is not

going to adapt to all that within a few four to six weeks and then your body is in a slow down at the progress and then eventually plateau hard, and then where the hell are you gonna go? Yeah, it's such an individual thing. I've known people who have an incredible ability to handle work and workload, where they could just throw anything at their bodies and they seem to recover.

And then I've known other people who, I mean, I had to be very careful. I had to be very, very careful with how I train them because we would over do it very easily. And when we would over do it, they would stop progressing. So that's the thing you want to keep in mind. I don't even like telling people that they're be okay and they can handle it

because a lot of people mistake the fact that their body can handle it. And they think surviving is the same thing. Right. And they think just because they're like, oh, well, okay, I mean, I do this, you know, orange theory class or CrossFit class five, six, seven days a week and I can handle it.

I feel fine. My energy's good. I feel great after my class, but you're not seeing any progress anymore. The reason why you're not seeing any progress, you've adapted to all that. You don't want that. You want to do as little as possible

to elicit the most amount of change. So if you're just getting started with a maps program and your choice was to go by split and hit first, I don't advise that at all. And in fact, you should start with anabolic. And then from anabolic, you build into performance. If you're a beginner beginner, start with map starter. Right. That's why we created that. If you're somebody who's really sedentary, that's what I'm saying. If you're somebody who's really sedentary, you're more likely to overdo it at the beginning than somebody who's super active

and been training for a long time. Because that person should start and regress as low as you can in our programs, which, like Salah just said, map starter. Like, you should start there because it is as low of volume, as low as intensity, that we have created a program.

It's really designed for somebody who's just thinking about getting started, it working out. It doesn't require a lot of equipment or barbells and so that it's very basic to get your body moving in the right direction. And then you build on that by progressing through the program. I don't know if coincidence or not, but split plus hit equals shit. I think I think about it. Thanks. Thanks. That's a lot, dude. It's bliss plus hit. That is a lot of volume and intensity and yeah

highly unlikely that that's going to be an ideal combination for you unless you're super advanced. Right. If you're at that level like I can that's I mean shit. I mean, it's possible so but you're gonna be like an elite one percent and and you would already be at a place place I think where you're pretty content with your you just you just want to just go for it. Yeah, I think it's for those fitness fanatics who fucking love working out. Yeah, then you can do it. I can see that. Next question is from yes, EG O. In the beginning of your career,

how did you handle clients that were very deconditioned or had mobility issues such as a recent knee surgery, hip issues, et cetera. How did you reassure them? And what steps did you take to gather the information you needed to start their programming? So in the beginning of my career, I had very, very little knowledge and understanding of correctional exercise.

I just didn't know, but I did have enough knowledge to know that I needed to start some people off slow. And so what I used to do, when I first started before I understood correctional exercise was, we would do the exercises that we were supposed to do with low weight and we would just go real slow and focus on the form,

which is actually not a bad way to help someone get to a point where they can do exercises. It is not a bad way to help someone get to a point where they can do exercises. It is not a bad way to do correctional exercise. It's not the ideal way, but it is a way, and so that's what I used to do. Now, later on, I learned about correctional exercise, and I was able to be more specific and focused with how I would help people. Now, here's the other thing I want to communicate here, because part of this question was, how would you reassure them?

And I understand what they're talking about. As a personal trainer, someone's coming to you and saying, I want to lose 20 or 30 pounds, you do an assessment and you identify bad hip issues, you know, poor recruitment patterns. You need to now tell them, sorry Mrs. Johnson,

we're not going to do workouts, they're going to make you lose 30 pounds. We need to do correctional exercise for about four weeks because you can't move right and we can't do all those other workouts that you think you need to do. That requires amazing, excellent communication skills, which is why I've said time and time again,

the most important skill you have as a personal trainer is your ability to communicate what you know because you have to sell it to that person. Because what happens with a lot of trainers is that they fall prey to what the client thinks they want. They know that they know what's good for the client because they're trainers, but they know the client wants a hard, sweaty, crazy workout.

And because they're afraid of losing that client and they don't know how to communicate it right, they just give the client what they want. And in essence, doing what they shouldn't be doing, just to keep try to keep the client and make them happy. So at this point, it's important to understand how to communicate to these people. Talk about the process, what's happening with their body,

show them how they feel, do it with a confident assertiveness so that the person wants to follow you and follow your lead. And then once they see how their body responds and how they feel, you'll probably never have to ask them to trust you again after that first time. But it will require some really good communication skills. And that's everything. I think, so I went through it.

I don't remember what year I went through CES, but that was one of the best certifications that I got through NASM, their corrective exercise specialist. I learned a ton that I was able to apply to a lot of my clients. And when I got somebody, knee surgery is very, very common. I learned to communicate this way. I would explain to them that after their surgery is that, listen, what we do right now over the next six

months to a year, maybe some of the most important things that you do for the rest of your life in regards to your overall health and fitness journey. And then I would explain to them why and what I mean by that is that it's very common that when someone gets an injury that they go right back to everything else that they've been kind of normally doing. And what they don't realize is that when they've gone through a major injury like that, the body doesn't know any better. It just then prioritizes neurons and muscles to fire and activate on an opposite side

to compensate for the one that's now been injured. So if the knee goes down and you're not using it for X amount of time, the body then prioritizes its focus on other parts of the body to compensate for that injury. And what ends up happening is you get underdeveloped muscles around in the area of the injury. You get overdeveloped muscles on the area that is now supporting that or compensating for that. Now if we get you back and you've just finished this surgery and we don't want to address

this, that is just going to continue to get exaggerated as we go through all your basic movements. So if we just get into squatting and doing all your exercises that we're doing for or get into running an exercise and moving, you have now established these new patterns to compensate for the injury that we now have to go back and correct. If we do not do that, you can still get by. You can still exercise, go about your day, but it's now going to start to exaggerate the imbalance. And so it's very important that we address that now. And how do we do

that? We're going to do that by strengthening all the muscles that support the area that was injured. And then we're going to make sure that we start to make sure we do a lot of like unilateral work so that we can start to even that out because if we do a bunch of bilateral or we do in both feet at the same time, the stronger side is going to take over a lot of the movements and we don't want that. So that's why we're going to do a lot of this one-legged stuff. I'm going to constantly be doing you in a split stance where I put the weight on the knee, the bad knee, so you're having to stabilize that area.

This is where those types of things that we kind of tease. That's what you're for. Yeah, this is what they're really for. When you see a trainer doing a one-legged balance, or this is where I utilize a tool like this, is I know that this person has been on the other foot and using it so much that now I want them to bring back that all that attention to that bad side. So if I have a left knee that my client just had surgery on almost every isolation exercise

that I do for arm, shoulders, shit like that, I'm going to have them in a split stance with that front bad knee forward and all the weight on it to where they're kind of having to stabilize and balance on that because I don't care about that back like that back latest got so much attention for the last six months. I want to put the attention back on the side that's been neglected. So I think if you can explain that like South said really well to the client so they understand that this is where our energy and focus should be to make sure that we don't set you up for something that's going to cause you aches and pains for the rest of your life. And the irony of it is when you do this right,

you'll build way more value with the client than if you didn't do this. So the stuff that you're afraid of communicating, if you do it right, get some buy-in, that's very important. You want them to understand and agree, and you do it, you will be so much more valuable. It was my correctional exercise stuff that got me all my value with my clients. The weight loss and muscle building stuff is easy. I'm gonna be honest, if you were to focus on anything as a new trainer, you should dive head into correctional exercise.

This is why we created Prime Pro. I know you, someone's rolling their eyes because I tend to shamelessly plug the fucking programs whenever these, but this is why, because we know this is a, if you're a trainer, 100% you have to have this program, because you have the resources now to just go to that and look at the joint or the area where the injury is most likely

because someone's gonna have an injury either in, near the ankle, near the knee, near the hip, near the shoulder. Guess what we did in Prime Pro. We went through it and we addressed every major joint. Those are the type of movements that you should be teaching those people. Well, you're not gonna value it till you really educate yourself in that direction. And, you know, in terms of like how we, we sort of addressed this in the very beginning as trainers like for me, it was always, well, I still want to work with this person in their, you know, limitations and I'm trying to find

the thresholds to where, you know, their abilities lie. And I don't want to exaggerate their problem. And so I had to like, immediately I freaked out and was like, oh, fuck, I got to get, you know, more education. I got to go research, gotta go research the proper ways to train somebody that just came off of a knee surgery. That I don't wanna make it worse. I don't wanna add something to where they're gonna go back to their doctor and they're gonna be like, what have you been doing?

And so the pressure is on you. And you need to take and own that and go do your homework. Next question is from Adam Pullman Fit. What do you preach that you don't practice enough yourself? Oh, I don't know. Just to pick this one. Yeah. Damn it.

Why did I? I didn't know you could string it right after that. You gotta call ourselves out. Yeah. We just talked a lot about digital wellness and practices. That is the hardest one for me. Well, that's brand new, so that's easy. That is hard, that is so fucking hard.

Like, I find myself getting on my phone when I'm with people around me, you know, during conversations, I find it, doing it with you guys and that one is, that's a frickin' hard one. That's a monster right now. And I would say that's gotta be the most difficult one for me at the moment. Maybe I'll think of another one.

Mine is definitely caffeine intake. And I'm always trying to like, yeah, I'm totally working on it. You know, like lowering it and then I ramp it up more. You know, and it's like, you guys are like, it's great because you guys kind of notice all my patterns. And I think that's what's great about us having like the three of us like brutally honest.

Like it just makes its way back in. And I notice it, but at the same time, I don't do anything about it because it does serve me. It serves me when I wake up to have that stimulus. It serves me to talk better and it does a lot of things that I associate with it. And so it's really fucking hard for me to ramp that. I know I need to do it.

I have to bring it down for me because I'm so high right now and I don't want to. Yeah, it's bad. I would actually say following our programs to a T, I think that we preach that a lot on the show and tell people how important it is that you follow these programs to a T. But I also think I have a good excuse for why I don't.

I think that every one of them I've been through and followed to a tee and the philosophy behind all of the programs I completely understand and comprehend. Therefore, I get to I get the cheat. I get to weave in and out and pick what I want this week and to focus on certain things that I want to because I really understand the philosophy behind it's kind of like when your teacher in math, like would teach you you know long division Or like working the problem out. It's like you don't do that every time that you have to Divide something that's pretty basic that you can do in your head That's kind of how I feel about our programs is they really were designed not that oh this is the ultimate program

But it's really designed to teach people to understand the principles behind good programming. It's a framework at the template. Right, so you then could do that. So if I were to say there's something that I preach a lot on the show that I don't do myself, it's following our program. So I mean, what I'm doing right now with our swimming with my swimming,

and we don't have a program that I'm following, it's, I've got pieces of pieces of prime in there, there's's, I've got peace, there's pieces of prime in there, there's pieces of prime pro in there, there's pieces of performance I was doing the other day, I was just doing aesthetic the day before that combined was, I mean, it's, I'm all over the board, but I understand, I understand the philosophy, the principles, the rules of good programming,

and then I have now molded it into my specific goals right now. Which is what I think is the message that we've always tried to get across. Well, the foundation is theirs and it's established. So now, like, I mean, we all kind of, I mean, I definitely can identify with what you're talking about. And I would love to just stay regimened in like really structured, you know, with my workouts, that would be great, because I know what that would do for me.

Wait, the bottom line is, I know if that I actually had a very specific goal, like to start shaping my body for stage, you know, following aesthetic and split, I would do. But I'm not, that's not a goal right now, you know. I don't have these like major, I don't want to change, I'm not trying to change my body composition majorly right now. I'm not trying to really improve my overall performance. I want to get good at swimming right now.

I want to enjoy that not only for the fact of getting better at swimming, but also for the relaxation, the meditative benefits that I get from it. And so a lot of my exercise right now is not geared towards a goal or a performance in an answer that I want to get to. It's really more personal. I got a good one for myself. That really just dawned on me. I preach all the time about how supplements play such a minor role in your fitness and health

and they're not, it's not a big deal. There's a few supplements that are out there. You first should take the most out of them. And I fucking love them. I love them. And I know it's like candy to you. I know that it's not really, but I have a lot of fun with him.

And now that we're mind pumped and shit gets sent to us. Like, we get supplements from everyone. Ooh, yeah, they're a little kid. Try this, try this, try this. The odds that we're gonna sign with the supplement company are, you know, 5%, 1% maybe. You have to blow our mind so you can send us products, I encourage it, send us all the samples you want

if it blows our mind, we'll like it. And so I end up trying all these fucking, I have a covered full of suggestions, like what are you taking now? I'm like, I don't know, it's company sent to me. I'm gonna see what happens with this. That's the one thing. I think people would be shocked

because I'm always like, ah, you know, supplements, you don't need them, you hold natural foods this and that. But if people saw all the shit that I would had had and took and mess with, that's a good one. They'd be like, oh, this hypocrite. You self-experiment a lot though. Well, I think it makes a lot of sense.

Well, I also think too, you know, in your defense that the message why we came out so hard on supplements was because too many people were sold that they are that important. Sure. And when you take them, you're not thinking like, man, I got to take this because I want to burn some fat. Oh, I want to take this because I'm trying to build a bunch of muscle. It's like, you're, I get what, how you use them. And I know for sure that you wouldn't go out and spend a bunch of money on it, especially how cheap you are. Oh, it's the Ben Greenfield side of me.

It's the fucking, let's, oh shit, this is the new new tropic from whatever. I'm going to combine it with this and let's see what happens here. And I take it, it's like new formulas. Oh, shit, it gave me diarrhea. Cool. I thought you'd have to do more in the, now let's oh shit. This is the new new tropic from whatever I'm gonna combine it with this and let's see what happens here And I think new formulas. Oh shit. It gave me diarrhea cool Now let's combine this yeah, oh I couldn't sleep. Okay, let's not do that one You know, but I think we I think you know Again defending you I think that the message is was really to to save all the people's money that were out there Spending hundreds of dollars every month in hopes that that was gonna make a big difference.

Yeah, and it's not like I don't work out and don't eat right. Those are paramount. And I'm not taking supplements to make up for that kind of bullshit, but 100%. Again, if I had people over my house and they saw what I took in the morning and whatever when I take during the day, I walk around with a bag full of supplements. Well, I for sure, I for sure have taken more supplements in the last three years that I have in my previous fucking 12 part of that's because of me I end up giving you guys shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, try this.

Yeah, give it like a handful of shit. He's like, what is this? I don't know. Take it. That was interesting. That was a good one. I got to go. One next question is from healthfully happy. Are you going to encourage your children to go to college?

Do you think that there will be enough value to it by the time that they would be considering? Oh, good question. Interesting question. And I know our kids are going to listen to this episode one day. I know, right. I mean, I'll tell them what I've had this conversation with my son. So my son's about to go to high school. And we've had this conversation. He actually talked to me and he said,

do you think college, because he's heard me talk before. He goes, should I even go to college? And I said, it all depends on what you want to do. You have just like anything else, you have to look at the cost and the benefit, the value. So if you want to be a YouTube entrepreneur, is spending a hundred thousand dollars going to a prestigious college,

is it going to be worth it? No, definitely not. You're going to learn more by learning on your own online and by being maybe mentored by people who do it, way more valuable than going to university. Do you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or maybe? Any kind of clinician. Yeah, maybe an engineer of some sort,

then yes, it definitely can be a value. I think you gotta look at what you wanna do. That is necessary. Some of those things. Some of those you have to, right? I mean, engineer may be not necessary, but if let's say you're gonna work in tech management or something like that,

and it depends on the school too, are you going to MIT? That might make a difference if you're gonna try and be a management at Google. It might not either, because if you compare that with someone who say develop their own program and has now worked on their own and showed all the stuff and has that kind of, go get them attitude on their own, it might not.

It all depends on what you're going to do. Look at what you're going to get the degree for, how much you're going to earn making that, and just do the fucking math. Now the hard part about what you're saying right now is that how many 18-year-17 year olds that are talking about the turn 18 Really know what the fuck they're gonna do, you know at that at that age I think I thought I was gonna go into debt. That's my advice to those kids is you don't know what you're gonna do That's fine. You could still go to college to figure it out

But don't go into debt while you're doing it. That's dumb. Community college. There you go. There's also state schools. That's it. State schools are much cheaper. And I wish I would have stayed at the state school.

I went to private school, which was like, way, way more expensive. But I was one of those kids, and I'm glad you brought that up because I didn't really have the clearest idea of what I wanted to do career-wise. And that was something that I had to go through the process of, like, well, I've always been interested in this, but I didn't even consider that as a potential career.

And so breaking away from school was honestly that, it felt like the most freeing, liberating thing ever. And it was like the possibilities were endless at that point. Some kids might come to that conclusion early. And for them, I would say, yeah, definitely don't get into debt. That's not something that if you know specifically, this is a passion of yours. There's a company that you can come in and you can provide internship or

you can get yourself an apprenticeship, which I feel like is the most undervalued way to learn anything. I think I highly suggest people look into that. If you know, and you can specialize right away. To be honest, for my kids, I'm just gonna evaluate it once we get there. It's like, I don't know what that even looks like. This is like totally speculative, a speculation of what college is gonna become

in the future. The rules I have for my kids are, don't be lazy. Okay, hey, dad, I don't know what I wanna do. That's fine. Let's go to community college then, even though whatever, to do that, get a job, get different jobs so you can kind of see what you want to do. That's fine. Let's go to community college then, even though whatever, to do that, get a job, get different jobs, so you can kind of see what you want.

Let's start experimenting and see what happens, but you don't get the luxury of sitting at home and playing video games and being lazy ass. You gotta go out and make should happen. Let's figure it out. Hey, dad, I know exactly what I want to do. Great, what is it? I want to be a fitness entrepreneur.

Okay, you're not going to go to college because there's nothing you're going to learn in college that you can't learn interning for my pump. Come work for us. I'll train you myself. You know what I'm saying? Like it all depends on what you want to do. And some careers and some jobs,

you'll do better off going to college. It'll be worth the cost. And some you're just not. They're not going to be worth it. I kind of feel like it's a, I answered a question recently from somebody who asked if, you know, when the time comes and if, if Maximus is wanting to play tackle football, what would I say or do? And I think I would handle it the same way that I would

handle college. I think that I would, I think I would educate my, my son on the, the pros and the cons of it. I would make him aware of where, where he fits in that because what if your kid is, I mean, if you have a kid, like, you sell, you have a kid like this. I mean, your kid is about to go to one of the most prestigious schools here. He's in robotics. He's a four-o student. He may get into fucking Harvard. And boy, the benefits of going to a school like Harvard is, and you already see the benefits of, if him potentially going to the school school he's going to right now, like man, the benefits of that community and being around that are extremely valuable, right?

Sure, but if he goes and he fucks off or he goes to Harvard to get a degree in, you know, liberal arts or, you know, ancient art or something like that, nothing wrong with learning those things, but you can learn those online, you don't need to go spend 200,000 dollars going to debt to learn those things. But my point is, like, you know, your son and where he's at education-wise, the way he values education, the way he is.

And like, let's say, what if my son's more like a 3.2 student? And he's just thinking about going to some prestigious college that, you know, and maybe he barely gets by in the... that conversation's probably a little bit different than if I'm talking to your son. So I just, again, I think just like if I was talking to my son who's playing, who played Pop Warner is now in high school and he's kind of average at football and he's thinking about really continuing it on.

Like I'm gonna let him know. I'm fucking, I'll definitely be a dad like that. That's a reward. Yeah, like hey, son, this is kind of where you fall in the mix and that's fun. I'll definitely be a dad like that. Yeah, like hey son This is kind of where you fall in the mix. That's fun. Right. Here's the people get a lot bigger stronger fast Right, and here's a chance here's a chance of you going professional This is where you fit in that these are your 40 times. This is your vertical this like I can break all that shit down Because I'm into that stuff right and say you know, hey, it's up to you if you want to keep going on this path

But this is where this could potentially lead and what's most hey, it's up to you. If you want to keep going on this path, but this could potentially lead and what's most likely where it's going to lead, here's the chances of it going this direction. I think I would do the same thing with college. This is where you, in the whole, you know, going through school, where you match up, where your grades are, and where you want to go for life down the road.

Here's the pros of doing this this way. Here's the cons of doing this way, and then let him decide on that. And I most certainly would not be a parent that just because I had the money sends you off to a four year college, just go to get drunk on every Thursday Friday, Saturday, and then skate through school just to get a degree, just so you could say you have a degree. Like most certainly I wouldn't do that. No, and you know what, there's study, and people always bring this to me, like,

oh, this study shows that people who have a 40 degree earn this much more in their lifetime than people who just graduate high school. Terrible study, they're terrible because there's a bit of a selection bias going on. First of all, everybody that decides to go to college, that group of people who decide to do a 40 degree have a different mentality than a lot of people who decide decides to go to college, that group of people who decide to do a four-year degree, have a different mentality than a lot of people

who decide not to go to college. What we need is a study that shows the focused people who don't go to college versus the focused people who go to college, compare those to it, and I bet you will find that the difference is not gonna be that high. If we look at all the people who are like, I'm not going to college, but I know exactly what I wanna do.

I'm gonna do this business, I wanna start that business, I'm a hustler, I'm gonna work my ass off, I'm gonna learn from this person. That person's probably gonna succeed. At the end of the day, if I were to determine, if I had to make a prediction on future success, and you were to show me the schools they went to and all that stuff, but you also showed me their attitude,

guess which one's gonna determine, yeah, their character. Their me their attitude. Guess which one's gonna determine their character. Their character and attitude, by far, because I didn't go to college. Look, we started mind-pump when I was, I did maps when I was 34 years old. It was my first creative map, so I was 34 years old. Now by that point, I could have gone to college,

I could have had a PhD and a master's. I would have been $250,000 in debt. Would I have been better off? No, not at all, not for what I want to do. Now I didn't go to college, but I definitely didn't leave high school and then just work a part-time, you know, minimum wage job and live with my parents.

I was fuck, I knew what I wanted to do. And this whole time I've been working and driving towards it. So it's a big, big, big difference. It really depends on the child and the person. And it could vary, look, I have two kids. It could very well be that one of my kids, I tell them, yeah, college is a good idea for you. I'm gonna help pay for that.

And the other one would be like, it's not for you. I think you should do something else. It very well may be exactly that. And with that look, go to mindpumpfree.com and download our guides for free. We got a lot of them on there. Lots of great information. And they're totally free again.

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