Mind Pump: Raw Fitness Truth - 994: Build More Muscle with Blood Flow Restriction Training, the Differences Between Training in the Morning vs Evening, Strategies to Keep Clients Motivated & MORE

Episode Date: March 23, 2019

In this episode of Quah, sponsored by Organifi (organifi.com/mindpump, code "mindpump" for 20% off), Sal, Adam & Justin answer Pump Head questions about modifications to training/programming for train...ing early morning vs training late afternoon, BFR bands, accountability practices, tools and methods to keep clients motivated and on track and when they think their sons will overtake them in strength. Adam’s allergies are at it again! (3:52) Yes, you heard that correctly, Justin had a tumor on his adrenals and he named it. (7:40) BBQ’s, endless Taco Tuesdays and Butcher Box. (9:33) Layne Norton will not let things go. The guys discuss his recent post on artificial sweeteners. (12:45) Unique visual stimulation may be a new treatment for Alzheimer’s. (15:23) Drinking very hot tea nearly doubles the risk of esophageal cancer, study says. (21:21) This Japanese company wants to 3D-print custom sushi for each diner. (29:05) Excellent! A third Bill and Ted movie has been confirmed. (30:58) Mind Pump recommends ‘The Men Who Built America’ and ‘Lorena’ on Prime Video. (36:10) Mind Pump testimonials. (46:10) #Quah question #1 – What modifications to training/programming would you recommend for training early morning vs late afternoon? (47:56) #Quah question #2 – Do BFR bands actually work? (56:19) #Quah question #3 – What accountability practices, tools, and methods do you guys use to keep clients motivated and on track? (1:04:50) #Quah question #4 – At what age do you think your sons will overtake you in strength? (1:14:04) People Mentioned: Layne Norton, PhD (@biolayne) Instagram Max Lugavere (@maxlugavere)  Instagram Products Mentioned: March Promotion: MAPS Aesthetic is ½ off!! **Code “BLACK50” at checkout** Butcher Box  ** FREE Bacon, 2 Ribeye’s, $10 Off + Free Shipping on Your First Order** Layne’s post on Sweeteners and Microbiome Unique visual stimulation may be new treatment for Alzheimer’s Drinking very hot tea nearly doubles risk of esophageal cancer, study says Hot Ones - YouTube This Japanese Company Wants to 3D-Print Custom Sushi for Each Diner - MUNCHIES Excellent! A Third Bill and Ted Movie Has Been Confirmed Amazon.com: Watch The Men Who Built America | Prime Video Amazon.com: Watch Lorena - Season 1 | Prime Video Leave a Mind Pump testimonial Philips Wake-Up Light Alarm Clock with Sunrise Simulation, White (HF3500/60) Mind Pump Media | Occlusion Training Guide Occlusion Training Tutorial- How to Increase Muscle Size Using Blood Flow Restriction Mind Pump Free Resources

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Starting point is 00:00:00 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, MIND, with your hosts. Salda Stefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this super duper awesome episode of The Mind. Pumps, so look, for the first 44 minutes we do our introductory, fun time conversation, that's before we get into the fitness questions. Here's what we talked about. We started by talking about Adams allergies
Starting point is 00:00:29 and Justin's adrenal tumor. He had a tumor a long time ago. That was a fun little guy. He named it Little J. Little J. Then we talk about butcher box and their ground beef for life promotion. You heard me right, ground beef for life.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Here's what you do. Go to butcherbox.com, forward slash mind pump, and you will get $20 off, and ground beef for life, by the way, this promotion ends March 31st. Then I bring up a study on Alzheimer's with mice, and how they got rid of these amyloid plaques, with light and sound.
Starting point is 00:01:03 I know it sounds like they went to a nightclub. Maybe they did, I don't know, but the study will be in the show notes. Then we talk about how drinking hot liquids may double your risk of esophageal cancer. So if you like to drink really hot tea or hot coffee, you might want to cool it off a little bit first. Then Adam brings up an article on 3D printed sushi
Starting point is 00:01:24 based off of people's poop urine and saliva. We found out we know nothing about 3D printers. That makes it so appealing. And then Justin brings up how Bill and Ted is coming out with Bill and Ted part three. Excellent. Killer Reasons such a good act too. And finally I talk about a documentary called The Men Who Built America,
Starting point is 00:01:45 Frontiers Minutes on Amazon Prime, it's freaking awesome. Oh, yeah, and that's right. There's another series that Adam talked about. It's about Lorena Bobbitt, you know, that's that woman that cut off her husband's wing-wang. Yeah, sounds terrible, but he says it's good. Then we get into the fitness questions. The first fitness question was,
Starting point is 00:02:02 what modifications would we recommend for people who train in the early morning, like 5 a.m., versus in the late afternoon, like 5 p.m.? Next question, do blood flow restriction bands actually work? This is actually another word for this is occlusion training. And say, relatively nutrient technique that builds muscle, we give our two cents. The next question, what are some accountability practices that we'd like to use that help keep clients motivated and on track? And finally, text them constantly. At what age do we think our sons will overtake us in physical strength? It's never going to happen so.
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Starting point is 00:03:44 of exercise programming. Literally, an entire year planned out for you, all set up, just go to mapsfitinistproducts.com. You know what you do sometimes with your voice? What do I do? Talk out the side of my mouth as you said. No, no, that's what else you do. That's when you're on videos.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Every once in a while, you get nasally. Everyone's like, like you just think it was a- Oh, that's a low blow because I have my allergies manage is dude are brutal. I've been brutal the last the last week again, too It's like is it bad? Yeah, you know why why cuz it rained like crazy and then the sun came out Yeah, dude We were when I was driving up to big serve the weekend Everything was like green is fuck yeah. It was hella green.
Starting point is 00:04:25 Yeah, it's like one of those commercials for Claretin. Yeah, outside. Thirds in doesn't really work either, by the way. Yeah, no. I cycle through all of them. What do you cycle through? I snort one, I take one. I'm talking about allergies.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Rectally and in my mouth. Oh, wow. Yeah, the triple cover all. I call it the triple threat of allergies. You use a double penetration of allergies. Triple threat. Triple threat. You should be a spokesman. In lieu of a March Madness. Triple cover all I call it the triple threat of allergies double penetration of allergy Triple threat you should be a spokesman in lieu of March Madness. Do you you get terrible huh? I do I actually don't take the medic I'm lying. I really don't take I haven't taken any medication and probably about I don't know two months or whenever last time I was bitching about allergies really bad
Starting point is 00:04:59 So I try and never to take it until it gets like really I'm sure it's a case of trees those things fucking kill me. It's what's funny is they and I remember I I was starting to piece together What it was there was a time when I actually watched the news and I watched the news and I'm up anymore and having for a long time You have me now did Did you see that on my Q day with that's what I would I defer all I defer all signs questions to sell Yeah, so now political things I'm like hey, Sal shit. I even do the fitness ones now to People are like what the fuck asshole your fitness come on man, you know what it is I do but I I still defer wrong
Starting point is 00:05:40 He loves this stuff. Oh, ask me a business question. I'll answer those ones. I was high, which one was low. Today's high if you're allergic to pollen. Today's low. And so when I was following that, what I pieced together was I'm fucking allergic to a ton of things. It's not just like one. So like you mentioned certain trees or whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:18 Like there's a lot of different things that bother me. I think I get most of them. But what I notice, and this is interesting is, but I haven't exactly connected it, is certain ones definitely affect the allergies, definitely. So I get the, you know, stuffy, congested, flimmy throat where I want to spit all the time, which drives me crazy. Or I get, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a mouth. Katrina. Katrina loves that. Oh, she tested it. It's a bit straight. It's right here. Yeah, yeah Trina love that And then another time I'll be just itchy red eyes. I don't get all of the symptoms together. I get them separate
Starting point is 00:06:54 It's really we wonder if if you see the news report and it's saying the allergy bad Of course, you know, I'm saying like would you what if it's like oh, you get a rash? Hell a good today. I'm it? Like, what if it's like, oh, so you get a rash. That's how I get today. I'm it. Like, what the hell is going on? Incidentally. I don't, I used to never get allergies. Now I get them in just a little bit every once in a while. I had them real bad once.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So only one time I know what it feels like to have those types of allergies. It sucks. No, I skip my greens all the time. When it fresh cut grass and like, it used to really bother me. Like I used to, like, and I don't know specifically if it was cut grass and like it used to really bother me. Like I used to like, and I don't know specifically if it was because too,
Starting point is 00:07:28 like back then I didn't know, like my blood pressure might have been a little bit higher than normal, you know, just because of like, I think that tumor I had was like there for like a long time and I just didn't realize it and just live with it. It's not the tumor. It's the tumor. It's not the tumor.
Starting point is 00:07:44 We're the only benefits to having the tumor on your adrenals. Benefits? Yeah, like did it make you more hyped? I mean, are we looking at the positive side? Well, I mean, if you had it for a long time, did you notice that when you took it off, you got skinny.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You got the ice. The tumor ate a lot of my food. It's highly suggested. Did you name your two words? It's a little jester, a little jay. He just likes to eat all the fat stuff. But serious, because you were producing a lot of adrenal hormones because it was a tumor on their adrenals, right?
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yeah. So what I'm saying is that you were on like 24-hour day fat burners or something. Maybe you like that. Maybe that was the kid. I don't think so. Did you gain weight when you cut it off? I became immediately addicted to stimulants.
Starting point is 00:08:34 Oh, so you needed more. Yeah. Mm. That's, and so you're trying to get another one. Yeah. No, I'm just kidding. You think you're worse with stimulants today than you were before? I do. Oh, I don't know if that's just because Adam feels guilty of the ramp I feel I feel less guilty now
Starting point is 00:08:51 He thinks he caused it. Do you know that no, I give him shit about no way dude That's just told I had it there. I think it I think what happened was you helped it to you know Exaggerate it more so I knew I had to get it out of my body It was already there anyway. Yeah exactly like you know, exaggerate it more so I knew I had to get it out of my body. You was already there anyway. Exactly, like you helped me like find it. That's how I look at it. That's a spin it.
Starting point is 00:09:11 So I didn't give it to you. No. No, you actually helped them. No, it was there, but it made it larger. You helped them identify it. You actually saved his life. Yeah, I like, I like how those speed stacks. Right, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:22 That is a terrible sense of denial. That's weird. You're like taking abusive relationships. speed stacks. Right. Yeah. That is a terrible sense of denial. That's weird. You're like taking abusive relationships. You really helped me. I deserve it. Face hurts. And you know what happened to, so I listen to this. Listen Linda. Listen. So I get ready to go barbecue. My butcher box meet in my grill and I'm not able to grill. And why? Well, I open up my grill.
Starting point is 00:09:48 I haven't opened it up since winter. And I have one of those like, you know, nice covers that you put on it. Have you guys, and this has never happened to me before. I open my grill and the mold. Yes. Yeah, that's happening. I've never had that happen before. So what did you do?
Starting point is 00:10:02 Well, we did the sous-vie. I did the, I did, I did. No, no, no, no, no. What are you going to do about your grill? Oh, it's burning off. Yeah. So I just grabbed the shit of that. Then I had to, you know, I had to light it. I put it on high for like an hour. Yeah. This is fucking just cooked the shit out of it. Yeah. I've already done that once. I'm probably going to do it again. Oh, it's been so wet. Yeah. I always like have to deal with that. I have one of those webbers, too. And I'm like, I make sure and close it and put the cover on everything. But still the moisture gets in there. And I, dude,
Starting point is 00:10:28 it's inevitable. You can get that speaking old speaking of butcher box. Their ground beef for life is still going, right? Is it still going? It ends this month, though. When's this 31st? Okay. So that's what I'm saying. Analyst taco Tuesday. So if you think about it, so you enroll in butcher box, get your grass fed meat, you get ground beef for life, which I don't understand how it's company. That has a company even do that. Well, I don't know, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I hopped on the bacon when they do that promotion out. So anyway. It's even better. Still going on. But I have a question for you for barbecues. You know the little grills that go on the barbecue? Yeah. What is that called?
Starting point is 00:10:59 Am I saying it right, grills? That's it right. Yeah, the grills that go on the barbecue. Yeah, pretty sure that's what it's called. You can buy the grates. You can buy new ones, right? Yeah, because I have mine are all funky. I need new ones.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Where do you get them? The funky is what gives the flavor. Any hardware, dude, like I've got there, they have a lot of accessories. The flavors in the funk, bro. The flavors in the funk. Is that what you tell the ladies? Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:11:20 There's so many that makes that case where like, I mean, I know for like the iron skillet you try and keep a certain amount of that Yeah, you don't you don't you don't you can't on there or whatever. Yeah, you after we she normally lets that sit over night And then she's included would you call it? Did you use the word the dog try to use her idea? Yeah, no, come on dog Yeah, I think it's a thank you. Tina. That's right. I meant What is the other one mean that I said just it's just sophisticated
Starting point is 00:11:48 See you guys are listening No, that's called it's a seasoning right but a barbecue. Yes, isn't like that. That's you got it You got a clean. No, you let that shit gritty. Let it you let all the good get on there, man Don't be afraid you don't want mold on there We're about carcinogens and all this yeah,, dude, little leftover grease from the last time you grill. That's the guy with the tumor. No, you know what? You know what they say, though?
Starting point is 00:12:13 They say, charring your meat or the burn parts that they're carcinogenic. But here's always my argument for that. How the fuck did we cook meat when we were hunter-gathering? Right. Forever. We didn't have sous-vis. we were hunter-gathering? Forever. We didn't have sous-vis. We were fucking, I'm sure we grilled the shed of everything.
Starting point is 00:12:28 Well, that just proves your point too, about how much we freak out about a lot of little things. I mean, that's shit that we've been doing forever and that we've never been able to measure that to see how much. It's just, again, it's the spitting hairs thing that we always do. I think a lot of, I think we obsess. I think the body needs a certain level of...
Starting point is 00:12:42 Persinogens. Speaking of that, we're all over the point. Hey, we're all over the place today But you're we are saying shit. It's popping the lane Norton post which one all about artificial sweeteners He just won't let that shit go. No, of course not doesn't he sell supplements or artificial sweet? Probably whoa, there's a connection. Yeah, not honestly though in lane's defense even if he didn't sell Supplements with our he still would go hand on course. He does.v- he still would go hand on. Of course he does. No, he still would go hand on. No, the reason why I like like a pound
Starting point is 00:13:07 of fucking monsters all the time. Yeah, the thing I like about Lane is he's got integrity for his beliefs, so he just didn't try to bullshit, but I don't like it when people talk about artificial sweeteners in that way because he's trying to say, oh, it's healthy for the gut microbiome where it's not that bad because the mouse study showed that it was okay.
Starting point is 00:13:24 And I'm like, we don't know, and we don't even know, we don't even know a little bit about the microbiome where it's not that bad because the mouse study showed that it was okay. And I'm like, we don't know and we don't even know. We don't even know a little bit about the microbiome. I think about it. My, my, my subanet and rat poison for fucking a hundred years. They've evolved. They got a hell of stronger guts than us anyways. Yeah, I think I'm not sure if that's true, but yeah, I agree with it though. Adam theory. The way I look at it is.
Starting point is 00:13:41 You know, think about that. How many might, every mouse has got a family member that's eight rat poison? You can't tell me that it has not been some, somebody survived. Is it a Pajanic link there? Yeah, for sure. Some miles survive. Why would it work?
Starting point is 00:13:54 You'd be different there. I think the mice that they use in studies have been bred for a long time to be in studies. Really? Yeah, I don't think they're from a lineage of like mice in the wild. Well, that makes a set even more fucked up. Yeah, I don't think they're from a lineage of natural like Mice in the will in the wild all the that's if that makes a set even more fucked up. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly Is it really like that? I'm pretty sure I look at the mice and studies. I want to see this a certain type of mouth mouse
Starting point is 00:14:17 Breed and I believe it's the white ones. They always use right mm-hmm with a little pink feet. Yeah, yep I don't know I have no idea what color they are. I don't know what they're, they're using, you know, multi-cultural mice. Yeah. Spotted mice. Yeah. Yeah. White mice. Laboratory mice are of usually of the species musk-musculus. Oh, look at that. That's a good one. Look at that. I just think that what I said, the white ones, red eyes, pink feet. Yeah. They're used for research and genetics, psychology, medicine, and other Red eyes pink feet. Yeah, they're used for research and genetics, psychology, medicine, and other scientific disciplines.
Starting point is 00:14:47 They belong to the, I'm not even gonna say that word. Let's see, you can say that word, right? Wait, wait. Your contour glirious. Your contour glirious. Glad. Yeah, that one didn't. Which includes humans.
Starting point is 00:14:59 We belong to the same clad as mice. Interesting. What's a clad? I don't even know where a clad is. Is that clad as mice. Interesting. What's a clad? I don't even know how to do it. Part of a clad. Is that a clad or a clay? C-L-A-D-E. It's not a clan.
Starting point is 00:15:12 It's clay. I would say clay. It's a clay, but it's a clay too, does it? Clad. Clad. Yes, but the clad. If you want to be sophisticated again, that's what you say. Speaking of mice, I got a story, I got a study on mice.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Of course you do, of course I do. You wanna hear something cool? Yeah. So scientists have figured out how to clear Alzheimer plaque from mice brains using only light and sound. What? Yeah, so they take mice who have Alzheimer, who have symptoms of Alzheimer's
Starting point is 00:15:44 and have, well they essentially have Alzheimer's and have, well, they essentially have Alzheimer's. They have the beta-amoloid plaque, build up in the brain that we know causes the problems with Alzheimer's. And so what they did is they took strobe lights and low-pitched buzz to recreate brainwaves lost in the disease, which in turn removed the plaque and improved cognitive function. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Side effect. They died. No, remove the plaque and improve cognitive function. Wow.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Isn't that crazy? Side effect, they died. Yeah, but the plaque is gone. Well, I don't know. I think it's pretty, well, previous studies show that burst of ultrasound make blood vessels leaky enough to allow powerful treatments to slip in the brain. So that kind of encourages the nervous systems
Starting point is 00:16:19 waste removal, you know, experts, the microbial to pick up the pace. That's crazy, dude. Yeah, so So I don't know maybe hopefully in the future that could be like a brain treatment. Yeah, maybe we want to go to a rave and Here are all same. That didn't work for me. We went to the club in Vegas I came out and I felt like I had Alzheimer's afterwards. Yeah, I didn't feel like I got the obstinate Yeah, I felt like my cognition declined Crazy as a result of that loud music and thumping.
Starting point is 00:16:46 But we never felt we didn't find out about the mice if they were, if they're, they have a study lineage going on there or if they were random. I just don't think that they're collecting mice from the wild for studies. I feel like they're just breeding them and they have been breeding internally. Internally. Yeah. Yeah. That would make the most sense.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Yeah, it is. It would, that's kind of weird though. Don't you think that would be different than two? What do you mean? I don't know. I'm inbreeding. For one. I just feel like that would be a flawed study too, because what animal, including ourselves,
Starting point is 00:17:15 is in a perfectly controlled environment all the time forever like that. And wouldn't that, wouldn't it? Mouse studies give us ideas of what to study in humans, but you can't make a direct comparisons. And do you have an idea how often that the mouse studies are correct or? It's low.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I don't remember what the percentage is. I remember looking it up though. Oh, is it really low? Yeah, that's not very high. Really? No. Like under 50%. I believe it's under 50%.
Starting point is 00:17:42 First of all, studies are hard to replicate anyway. You take human studies and you get a result and then you copy the study and then there's not the same result. Does that just predate half the bullshit that we all argue in debate over all the time? I maybe, here's the way I look at it with like for example, artificial sweeteners.
Starting point is 00:17:57 I'm not in the belief of innocent until proven guilty. That's for our justice system. But when it comes to things you put in your body, I'm on the side of guilty until proven innocent. No, I love that. Okay, here's something that we made in the lab. I'm gonna assume it's not good for me until it's totally proven fine and healthy
Starting point is 00:18:18 and not a problem. Until then, I think I'll just have regular sugar and maybe stuff without sugar. And if I have such problems with food that I need to eat something sweet, that's artificially sweetened so that I lose some weight, probably not gonna be successful anyway because my relationship to food
Starting point is 00:18:35 is at a point where I have to do that. You know what I'm saying? It's not really a great strategy to begin with. You know what I'm saying? No, I think that's a beautiful way to put it. Yeah. Plus, I think we totally negate the sensation or the perception of sweet.
Starting point is 00:18:49 We pretend like it's just all about the calories that come along with it, but the perception of sweetness, that does something as well. And at the very least, it'll change the perception of future sweetness. In other words, if I eat lots of artificial sweeteners, then I'm probably less likely to perceive
Starting point is 00:19:05 natural sweetness like in a fruit as good. I'm saying my taste is more bland or whatever. Right, because I mean, you're not getting any nutrients paired up to that taste of sweet. Well, not yet, not only that, but it's like, it's overload. That's what I'm saying. It's like one sweet and low packet is like,
Starting point is 00:19:23 what compared to six or eight tablespoons of sugar or something crazy like that? Like, I mean, you're the level of sweet is like what, compared to six or eight tablespoons of sugar, something crazy like that. Like, I mean, you're the level of sweet. And so then you take some natural, this happened to me. I swear to God that I did not like fruit at all until I was 30.
Starting point is 00:19:36 It wasn't until I actually dieted and I actually got rid of all the, because even all through fitness, even as a trainer, I allowed ice cream and candy in my diet I just trained I trained I never I was able to include I FYM hints why I also I'm so fucking anti that shit Because I know what it was like to live that lifestyle be fine be fit be okay But I also see what it did to me like I 100% became addicted to sugar still have battles with it If I allow it to come back in or out of my diet,
Starting point is 00:20:05 I hated fucking fruit and vegetables. And it wasn't until I eliminated it for months consistently before I had this feeling of biting in an apple and going, and now I love fruit. I mean, every day I have some sort of fruit. There's always fruit in my fridge, and I'm always eating fruit. And it's enjoyable as shit.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It feels sweet. It's just makes me laugh because it's like, people, it's like, I have to have this sweet soda every day, but I don't want the calories, so I'm going to do an artificially sweetened one. You have to ask yourself why you have to have a sweet soda every day. That's the bigger question, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Like, I never have sweet soda every day, but if I am going to have a sweet soda, which I will do occasionally, by the way,
Starting point is 00:20:46 I may have one here and there, so I'm not demonizing it. If I do, I'll just do the real thing, and I end up, I don't even like the corn syrup one. I go for the Mexican Coke, the one with the real sugar. And I'll have that one, and okay, here we go, and I'm enjoying myself. So I just don't like the whole idea around
Starting point is 00:21:01 artificial sweeteners, and then here's the thing, they're putting all of our supplements, and these are health supplements. So now people are taking them every day, and they think this is my, this is good for me, and you're probably taking them in your coffee, because I would say a good, what, 75, 80% of people sweeten their black coffee
Starting point is 00:21:16 with some sort of an artificial sweetener. Sure. Now speaking of hot liquids, a study came out that got everybody up in arms, and it said that drinking hot tea doubled the risk of esophageal cancer. What? Yeah. Now people freaked out because it said tea. So everybody's like, oh fuck tea. I drink tea. Tea gives me cancer. No. It's not the tea. To be quite clear, it's the hot liquid that is increasing people's risk of cancer.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Really? And this is a specific, like people, you know how some people like things really hot? You know, versus like just kind of like a little bit past lukewarm obviously. But you know when you drink something real hot and I kind of burned your mouth and you're throw it a little bit. Yeah. Okay. At least a bit of a callus.
Starting point is 00:22:02 That is what is doubling the risk of cancer. And so they're saying don't drink really hot liquids. But this is nothing new. We've known this for a long time when my, you know, when my ex-mother-in-law got stomach cancer, I did lots of research on this and they connected stomach cancer also with the consumption of really, really hot foods, temperature wise. You know, it's crazy because you know that's got to be hard for most people to judge because you may be somebody who drinks something really, really hot. You don't even realize it because you know that's gotta be hard for most people to judge because you may be somebody who drinks something really really hot You don't even realize it because you've adapted slowly over time. That's my grandfather. Yeah, my grandfather
Starting point is 00:22:31 I swore to God if I put if I I could make pasta that the the the the temperature of lava and he would it doesn't matter I when we were kids me and my cousins just to trip out because my grandma would serve everybody their bowl of pasta Yeah, and it would be just steaming hot. Like she literally just took it off the stove. Steaming hot, we're all trying to eat it, but burn it in her mouth. And my grandfather eats his pasta like a lot of old school attains with both hands.
Starting point is 00:22:55 He has a fork and a spoon. Then just sucks it. One in each hand. And I'm not joking. So I'm talking about a bowl that's this big. So it's like a, it's a big ass fucking mound of pasta. Like a popcorn bowl. Like a big bowl of pasta with sauce on it's a big ass fucking mound of pasta like a popcorn bowl like a big bowl of pasta with sauce on it and it would be three three gulps one two gone and it
Starting point is 00:23:11 would be gone and we would all laugh and because we thought it was so funny and I remember after doing this for years I thought as I got older I asked my grandma I'm like how does he we used to tell him that he has his mouth has is lined with his best those like how does he do that? And my grandma said he's he's embarrassed He doesn't want to tell you guys why he can do that. This will you know tell me so he wasn't home one day And she said when he was a kid they were so poor that when my grandfather was I believe he was like 10 or 11 He used to have to sneak on a train so we'd get on the top of a train or hang on to the side of a train go to other towns
Starting point is 00:23:45 and find work because his family was poor and he'd try and work and bring back money. And oftentimes the way that they would pay, sometimes he'd do work and they wouldn't pay him, they would just give him food. And when they would do is they bring out a big-ass pot of hot boiling beans or pasta, and he would be working with all these men.
Starting point is 00:24:03 So he's an 11-year- old kid, all these men around him. And if he didn't eat that shit right then and there, he was getting no food because the men were eating all. So he learned how to just scarf it down. To deal with the pain. And till this day, that's what he does. No jokes. It goes one, two, three, gone.
Starting point is 00:24:19 So that's the scary part about information like this. And I can imagine somebody who has drank tea or coffee every single day And you like it hot and you ask it hot or hotter hotter I mean and you so you don't think it's hot to you But that's because you've adapted over that time and you have no idea how much probably your cow Calist your freaking It's interesting because I too like even with soup and things like that Like I know on certain days where I feel like under the weather and Courtney's gray about making this homemade chicken soup, but it makes it like really hot.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And I don't know if, I mean, it's one of those things where it's like, I don't know if it's that it's really hot and it warms up my core temperature, like almost emulating like a fever or something, but like there's part of me that like wants to believe that you know The soup does help to kind of you know make me feel better the next day But yeah, the heat that's the only time I like heat. I don't like like you know with coffee and all that I've never gotten you drink cold cold. Yeah, I love yeah, you do huh. Yeah, only just cold around
Starting point is 00:25:19 I have I have an issue with I'll go I'll eat something hell hot. That's just I'm impatient The food's in front of me, I'm just gonna eat that. Yeah, I like my food really hot. Me too. Yeah, yeah, that's, now spicy is another one. Spicy is different, spicy actually has anti-cancer effects, but man, the tolerance for spicy food varies. So you guys ever meet someone who could just tolerate
Starting point is 00:25:41 fucking spicy ass? Also another thing, it's got to be somewhat cultural. Well, it's not only that, but it's also something that increases at you age too. Yeah, what does your tolerance for? Yeah, your tolerance for you. Yeah, because you become taste buds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oh, you ever give a little kid some study? I'm already someone like that. I remember as a kid, I remember watching my stepfather put red peppers on his pizza. And I remember thinking like, oh my God, you're crazy. Yeah, you're crazy that would burn my mouth. And I remember thinking like, oh my God. You're crazy. Yeah, you're crazy. That would burn my mouth.
Starting point is 00:26:06 And the amount that he put on there. Oh, I love it now. That's how I do it. That's me with Tabasco on. But I would have never done that as a kid for sure. And I didn't like it. It would have burned my mouth. But, and I could pour them on now.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Well, like a child's palate is much more sensitive to things that aren't sweet. It's probably because they're more susceptible to, you know, being, to dying from eating things that may not be a hundred percent clean or whatever. And in nature of something sweet, that usually means it's safety. If it's bitter or if it tastes, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:36 anything other than sweet, it's, you have to be more careful. It's probably why. But my buddy who's Indian, and Indians eat fucking a lot of spices. Oh, dude, some parts of India eats food so spicy it doesn't make any sense at all in my brain.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It makes no sense. He took me to an Indian restaurant in Los Gatos and he takes me in the back because he knows the cooks back there and there are these Indian, like they're legit from there. And he starts talking to them and they all start laughing and he's laughing with them and then we leave and I'm like, what did you tell them?
Starting point is 00:27:11 And he goes, I told them to make this fucking spicy. I'm like, oh man, I love spicy food. He goes, no, I told them to make it spicy like the way we like it. I want it to hurt my mouth. So I'm like, ah, I like spicy food. Let's go ahead and enjoy this. Bro, they bring it out. First of all, it was so spicy that was like paste.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Whatever the curry was on it. Yeah. It was like thick paste because whatever they put in it. Bro, I touched that shit to my lips and I got an asthma attack. So it was so hot, it made no sense to me. Dude, that was like the first time I was it was sobby. And I ate like way too much of it.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And man, I was like, my eyes were watering, like my nose was running, like I did not react all that. Have you guys seen the YouTube show that does the Hot Wings? It's called, oh yeah, Hot Wings. Yes, I love that show. I didn't even know that existed, I was putting an asshole.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I think two years old, right? Isn't it different? No, that is such a great show. Oh, it's good. It's really good. It looks painful as hell. Yeah. They sell, apparently there's this,
Starting point is 00:28:07 potato, this corn chip, I think it is, that you can order online, and they'll send you just one, and apparently it's the hottest chip in the world. Have you guys seen videos of these people eating them? No. Yeah, and so people, like they'll eat it on YouTube, and then it's, apparently it's terrible. And there's a part of me that wants to try to do.
Starting point is 00:28:25 Yeah, I'm not that good. No, I can't. I can't handle that much. Yeah, I know my limits, dude. And it's, yeah, I'm pretty. I get my ass kicked at any of those hot wing places that have like levels, you know, some of those hot wing places
Starting point is 00:28:36 will have like, you know, seven levels of it or whatever. What's that one place in San Jose where you few could eat a dish? What's it called? It's right over by the university. It's over by Santa Clara. Is it called the 911 challenge?
Starting point is 00:28:46 You or something? Is that I think it's called a Cluc-U. Yeah, and then it's like the night, isn't it called the 911 challenge? It's something like that. I forget what the challenge is, but I know you, if you have to go all the way through. You have to sign a liability waiver.
Starting point is 00:28:58 You do? Before you eat the frickin' weak. Yeah, well, I'm sure somebody's have a heart attack. Yeah, I know. Hey, speak it of food and restaurants like that. Did you guys see the sushi, the 3D sushi thing somebody's have a heart attack. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, speaking of food and restaurants like that, did you guys see the sushi, the 3D sushi thing? So explain this to me. Okay, see this.
Starting point is 00:29:10 This is super cool. This is brilliant. So I forget when it launches, but they do kind of like how everything well does the saliva or blood test. So they they they test you like that before you come in. And you and what they find out what nutrients your body's lacking in and then they make custom roles to support that So saliva test they have saliva blood and I forgot with the other and you're in so you go in there and you they they hold on a second You're going to the restaurant like did you bring your poop? Okay, so I don't know no I doubt it's like that
Starting point is 00:29:42 It's probably like you probably have to send it in Before time above ahead of time and then you would come in I would imagine I doubt it obviously wouldn't go to happen that fast Right, so I'm gonna read it here. It says the Japanese company open meals is turning the idea on its head in the name Okay, so what they're doing is there saliva urine and stool. Yeah, oh, yeah, and then open meals will create a 3d printed sushi That's tailored to each diner. How do they 3d print fish? and then open meals will create a 3D printed sushi that's tailored to each diner. How do they 3D print fish? I don't think they 3D print the fish, do they? This is weird, what are they 3D printing? Sushi cubes, I have no idea what this means.
Starting point is 00:30:17 That's weird. Well, yeah, maybe it just cuts it up or something. You know, it's all, this is a total, what's the word, fad? Because we don't know nearly enough about the microbiome to start like making- Or 3D printers, apparently. So, you could say whatever, we just, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:33 there's some wizard back there, it does all this, and then boom, it's, it's match perfectly to you. I don't know. Wow, it's amazing. You're like, we don't know the, like, the God, I'm just, we don't know about 3D printers. I'm like, I don't know any of I'm just if we don't know about three three I'm like it. I don't know any of the intersecuses involved.
Starting point is 00:30:49 They bring your sushi out and it looks like poop. This is what it came up with. We don't know. The computer came up with this. Oh, it's not a bit. Dude, do you guys know that they're coming out with a new Bill and Ted's? What?
Starting point is 00:30:59 They've been working on this for years. Are they both in as counter-reves and whatever they got? Yeah, Alex, I forget his last name, but yeah, the guy he was also on Lost Boys and all that. So yeah, the original guys are in it and the director, I guess it's the same director, but also the guys that wrote the series. So it'll be interesting,
Starting point is 00:31:17 because that's one of those that was like kind of a cult classic, but you know how that goes when it's like years later, I don't really know like a franchise like that that like hit it when they're like old. Well, one of the first, this is what happens. I can't wait to watch this, but I watched the old building Ted the other day with my kid. Dude, isn't it so great?
Starting point is 00:31:36 Oh, yeah. Do you know what they say? Yes. You know what they say? A lot on that. Yeah, not the effort fuck like that. Like, you know, yeah, yeah, the disparaging like they hug each other than they say it.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah. And that's amazing. And since that movie started, you know, that old movie, that word has now become total total. It's kind of like you can't. Yeah. So I wonder what they're gonna say now.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I don't know. Dirk. I'm like so lame. They're all old now. They are. This is gonna be an interesting show. Did you guys like the second one too? You know, I didn't like it as much,
Starting point is 00:32:06 but there was like classic lines in that too, like where, you know, so they were like with death the whole time and they're talking shit to death, which I thought was kind of funny. And they had the evil, Bill and Ted robots. And you just, I don't remember that. I don't remember that. I don't remember anything.
Starting point is 00:32:23 They go on the phone booth. Remember the phone booth? Just gonna take some. Well, yeah, I remember that. I remember. What that. Yeah, I don't remember anything. Who's good? Remember the phone booth? Just in a picture. Well, yeah, I remember that. I remember. What are they gonna do now? Use this cell phone? Yeah, I had no idea.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Apparently, you know, they're one song. The premise is they have one song. Obviously, that's gonna save the entire universe. Like, that's the thing. And they got all these like, musicians lined up, like famous musicians are gonna appear in this. So who knows what this is gonna be like. But this is what happens, right?
Starting point is 00:32:45 I mean, you can't redo Bill and Ted's, like five years or 10 years later, you have to wait like the 20 year plus mark, right? For a whole entirely new culture. Yeah, right. And then it'll be new to them and it'll probably be absolutely funny. And then we'll be like the old parents,
Starting point is 00:33:03 they'll go like, oh, it's not like the original one's toy. Yeah, no, I want I want to like it So that's where I'm at because I love I love those guys That's normally what happen if they remade bill and Ted today because they're not remade as part three But if they remade it today it would end they'd end up making it two girls is what they do because that's what they're doing They do everything. Yeah, like oh, we're gonna make it with girls now and it's like okay. Yeah, is that true? Ghostbusters? That's one example. Yeah. It's one example.
Starting point is 00:33:27 I'm so mad about that one. I can see. It's like, that's the only one I could think of. Yeah. They were all funny, like comedians and everything. That just was kind of a problem. No, they did another one. Well, that's the only one I remember.
Starting point is 00:33:38 That's the first one they came to my mind. When you said that's the only one they came to my mind. No, there was another one. I remember. There's two movies they maybe even chicks. Always do it though. Yeah, all the time. Yeah, Susan and Karen They're so like that instead of Bill and Ted. No, no, it's Bill and Ted. Uh, Kiana Reeves is is it just me or is he played the same character? He is a he is a stoner surfer in every movie. Oh, but he kills it every time. You know, like you don't like him in every single movie.
Starting point is 00:34:06 I love a lot of his movies. I guess a terrible act. No, yeah, but I love a lot of his movies. He's a terrible. The only movie that he did was perfect in was Matrix. He was Neo 100%. Because he only said five lines. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Yeah, he said five lines in that. Whoa. Yeah. He still was a stoner server in that though. He's he's point break in every. Yes, I was just going to say. Yes, he's point break. stoner surfer in that though. He's point break in every movie. Yeah, so I was just gonna say. Yes, he's point break. That movie is classic and epic and he's a surfer in it.
Starting point is 00:34:30 And it so it fits. I really believe. Yeah, but what's the latest one where they killed his dog and then he went on a rampage and just destroyed everybody. I didn't watch that. I asked, oh, you kidding me, dude. I hate that I don't remember the name, but I'll give you the name.
Starting point is 00:34:43 There's two. There is. And it is a good action movie. It's just pure action. Yes. I heard the fight scenes were amazing. It's sick. Just for that.
Starting point is 00:34:53 But again, why you liked that matrix? Because there was a lot of cool like revolutionary like fight scenes. He's been in great movies. He's never did an speed. I mean, come on guys. Another eight lines. That's right, speed.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Whoa, we gotta, you know, take over the ball. We can't go over 51 miles and it was a 51. I'm gonna say it everybody. Anyway. Dude, you know what documentary I've been watching? What? It's called, let me see what it's called. Doug, did you write it down?
Starting point is 00:35:20 John Wick, that's what it's called. John Wick, John Wick. I heard it was, I heard the fight scenes. We're gonna fucking like it. Yeah, it's trust me. Am I? It's like it's like Rocky. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:35:31 It's like you're watching it for the the action and you know what you're going to get. Well, there's one thing asked. What's the one where all the guy all the old 80s all the guys get back to Oh, it's spendables. It's like, you know, it's like that. You know what you know you have some of the worst actors all getting together, but some of the baddest action figures.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah. I just don't like seeing worse. No, I saw one scene from John Wick where he's fighting someone and the jujitsu and judo moves that he does in the fight are actually really good. And oftentimes when you see fight scenes, it's a bunch of, they don't put grappling moves in there too much because it's hard to make them look as cool.
Starting point is 00:36:05 But he did some really good ones, and I think it's from John Wick. Probably. Yeah. So the documentary I'm watching right now is called The Men Who Built America, and it's about the Frontiersman. And I've only watched the first episode,
Starting point is 00:36:17 which talked about Daniel Boone. Davey. Davey Cruckett. You guys gotta watch it, it's crazy. Those motherfuckers were crazy. Yeah. They were crazy, bro. You know this guy did? That guy, but in gotta watch it's crazy. What those motherfuckers were crazy. Yeah, they were crazy, bro You know this guy did back in the wild west was crazy brother going out into like they don't know where they're going Just to start their own settlements or whatever and the middle of Native American land
Starting point is 00:36:36 So they're constantly being attacked and fighting or whatever the Shawnee Indians kidnap his daughter While they're out there because obviously they're in these other people's land, you know what I mean. So whatever, they kidnap his daughter. He hikes out there and tracks them because his daughter left pieces of her clothing to track them. He finds them, ambushes them, kills them, takes her back. Then he goes out one day with his men, man they get kidnapped he gets taken like 300 miles to another village or whatever
Starting point is 00:37:06 Escapes again runs back to his his outpost or whatever and outpaces the the Native Americans that were chasing him and then the The Shawnee Indians attacked them Because the British told them to they were working together whatever and they had this huge war that that lasted like and it was part of the revolutionary war I had no idea I had no idea that there was like a western front to the revolutionary war where the the Shawnee Indians were trying to take out these Outposts outposts and it lasted like 11 days already That's the world trends. We got them. We're taking out the mouth. But these fucking dudes were tough dude.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Outgrade is it. That's the docu series you watch. You don't know. Docu series I watch. I'm gonna watch that. Bro, these guys were so, makes you feel like the biggest wimp of all time to see what these men and women did just to live and survive. They had to stay behind their, their, their,
Starting point is 00:38:05 their fort or whatever for like it was like an 11 day siege where the, the shanis would come and attack and they'd fire back and they only had 40 men that were 300 Indians attacking them. 11 days they had to stay in there and fight them the whole time. That's crazy. And you're, what do you watch?
Starting point is 00:38:19 What did you watch? So my docu series I'm watching right now is the Lorraine Obawet. What? There's a whole series on that. Bro, she just cut his dick on the shit. No, it's it's you like threw it in the freeway, right? Yeah, but again, you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me the wayco.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It reminds me the wayco story where you get they're doing a really good job. The you know, kudos to was a lifetime special. No, it's on. I think it's on prime. I think prime's got it. I think prime's got it. I think prime's got it. I'll double check that tonight. I've watched the...
Starting point is 00:38:48 You wronged me. You have watched the first two episodes. I think it's like a six part. Did you hear what happened when you threw it on the freeway? Let's hear that joke. Let's hear that joke. Let's hear that joke. Oh, I know it's coming.
Starting point is 00:39:00 No, no, no. You almost got me. This is the part people don't know about. She was driving. She obviously had cut off her husband's dick. She throws it is the part people don't know about. She was driving. Yeah. She obviously had cut off her husband's dick. She throws it out the window. It lands on the windshield of another car.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Okay. The driver of the car was a father and his little girl who's taken her to school. So the little girl's like, and so the dad sees the dick hit the windshield, freaks out. He turns on the windshield wipers, Rup and it pulls it off the windshield. And he was real like, oh fuck, what do I say to my daughter? And so and so the little girls like daddy? What was that on the window and the dad goes?
Starting point is 00:39:29 That was just a bug and she goes well, yeah, the huge dick You son of a bitch. I do he was gonna do some shit You ruined us man. Anyway, you gotta watch the series though. It's fascinating. You had me real did bad dude. That was real did. Even knowing I knew there was a punchline coming. I saw the fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:40:01 I know it was it. You want to hold on to the whole document? That's all things. That bug. We know. I still got real. You want to know the whole document? No, that's all things. That bug. We've gotten to that part already. So we know it happens. So does she justified? Do you think she did a good, like she should have cut us down?
Starting point is 00:40:12 So I don't know. Does he raped her right now? No, yeah, but it's imagine watching the first two episodes of Waco where you would, you're a stancer. But right now I'm just, what, there's more to the story. Right? Like this, what we, I was under the impression that he, you know, he beat her, raped her, and this was her, you know, paying revenge or revenge on him.
Starting point is 00:40:30 And that was kind of, she threw it and like, that's kind of like the vague story that was, but there's a lot more backstory. And what I'm being told right now, so I don't know how far I don't want to ruin it for people, but it's definitely not what I was hearing on the news. So I find that fascinating. How do you sneak up on a man enough to be able to cut off? You know what I'm saying? He's probably, I asked him a deep sleeper.
Starting point is 00:40:51 No, he was awake. She was like fondling him and stuff. Oh, so she planned it. Yeah, oh yeah. And then Huju, yeah. Oh, yeah, she planned it. She was fondling him. Stretch it out.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Well, if he raped or he deserved deserved it. Yeah, that's my opinion Yeah, I don't think he did though. Oh, no, oh, oh, that's what the dog yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, that's that's we're up that they're leading you to believe where I'm at right now that there's a lot more The story and it's it's like I said it's fucking fascinating. You shit. Wow. Well again, it reminds me of as a kid because these are stories It came out when we are I was 90 93 so that what are we I'm me as a kid because these are stories that came out when we are I was 93 so that what are we I'm Su- Su- Su- Su- You're like a me- 6- 6- I'm like a me- 6 or 7- Yeah, yeah, so I'm 6 or 7th grade and I was a 6th grade 6- Oh you pay attention Yeah, I totally remember that I remember us making jokes about it I remember it being big news for quite some time and talked about all through school
Starting point is 00:41:41 You know, he remember he made a porn after that. Yeah, so did back on. He made a porn. So do I. So I remember that's I even watched it. I Wow. You guys didn't come on. You're the penis drawer. Of course you did. Yeah. Of course.
Starting point is 00:41:54 You didn't look like it. You did it. Freaking penis. Hey, you know, it's funny. I bet you part of the we tease you about that. But I bet you that was around that time when you were doing it. I mean, that was big news. That was that made world news.
Starting point is 00:42:04 I know. yeah, dude. So it's interesting to watch some of these stories that I were very memorable for me as a kid. And then to go back and then kind of watch them put it all together to both sides of the story and how the news unfolded and what happened in court. That's gotta be, how do you not bleed to death? That is such a, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:42:23 Yeah, he clamped it off right away. He clamped it off right away. And clamped it off right away and he had, I think his brother was in town, knocked on the door next door. He rushed him to the hospital. And then they found the dick in the road. The funniest part, like a simultaneous crossing of legs. I will give you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I will give you, that's funny you say that because they talk about this in the documentary, like the whole day, like, so this was like so crazy. Nobody has ever heard this. So the part that was, I think, the most comical or crazy when I was first watching it is right away it opens up to like the 911 call. And all the communication back and forth between the police, the fire
Starting point is 00:42:55 department, the ambulance or nobody's nobody wants to say penis on air. Because up into that point, nobody had ever said the word penis like on over the radio. It's like not in newspaper print. The people tripped out when they had a print. Is it like vagina had been introduced? But penis had not been introduced into our news network. What were they saying? Like, fallacy? The organ, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Like a man's. The massive organ. Yeah, there is his organ. It was really funny. And you hear all of them having running into the same issue. I'm reporting over here, but then I know it's being picked up by it's on radio. We gotta be careful. Yeah, we gotta be careful what's being said.
Starting point is 00:43:33 But we gotta explain the severity of this. Yeah, so they don't just think a little thing got cut. This is a big deal, right? So they go all into that. That part was kind of comical to see that all happen and the same thing went for they printed the story the first time. They were all this is the first time. What is this on Amazon? I think it's I think it's Amazon Prime. I'm pretty sure I'll double check tonight. Well, they're name is now. I'm sure it's their name is notorious now. Bob it. You can even say like oh, she bob it at him or what?
Starting point is 00:44:00 Oh, dude shirts were made shirts were made over it. I mean it gets into all that. Yeah, she became a little bit of a full-currow for women because she said that, you know, he raised her. Big time. So get into that also. I'm just keep spoiling this document. I'm only watching, like they said the first two episodes and they get into all of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:44:16 But it set off a trend of men. Of dick cutting? Yes. Somebody else mentioned this like nostalgia. Like, you know, it's like really like what's going like popular right now, like the OJ trial, like all these like, you know, Waco, like, you, you know what I said, like all these like major news
Starting point is 00:44:33 events, we sort of briefly remember are like, that's what everybody's paid attention right now. Well, think about it. Think about what Donald Trump's mantra has been for the last four years. So this whole fake news thing, it's your, what great stories to tell. Oh, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah, no, think about it. All those stories were manipulated by the media one way or the other, right? And you could argue either way. And so getting to see a whole documented series with interviews of people that were actually there and it allows you as a... I could have done without the Michael Jackson one,
Starting point is 00:45:01 thank you, though. Right? But don't you feel like that's what all this is? It's like a lot of the reason why that's probably so popular is because fake news has been this mantra for the last four or five years. And now we're getting these stories at his kids. I remember hearing about it in the news.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Imagine if you're like somebody who is in this terrible news cycle, you did something horrible or something happened to you. Everybody knows you 30 years later, you're like, fuck, finally, like nobody remembers. Like I had to do. And then fucking do it. Primed as a documentary. Ah, no, all the dirt. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:45:35 I would imagine they get paid though. You think so? Probably. Yeah, if you're in that documentary, especially if you're somebody who would be that, like, I would have dumbed decision for him to do a porn. That only kind of makes him look like a scumbag. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:45:49 Maybe, they kind of, okay, so again, this is stuff that I remember too. He's probably like, women wanted to work. You know, so he's gotta show it works. Yeah, apparently, I remember reading an article, he said something like, it's bigger now, so he's still like that, but how's that happen? No, I'm interested to see a rest of it. Oh, also we have the, what is it?
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Starting point is 00:47:55 I don't know if I would do any mods for the training, but I would definitely maybe look at my nutrition before my workouts. I know when I work out at 5 a.m., it's fasted. I just don't have time to eat before my workout, unless I wanna eat right before my workout, which isn't a good idea. Yeah. When I work out in the afternoon, I typically am fed,
Starting point is 00:48:16 and I'm not gonna lie, I've been working out, you know, 6 a.m., 5 a.m. now for a long time. It's been now at least a few years, and I've done it long enough to where my body's acclimated, but it still is not the same. My PM workouts, I'm stronger, I have more energy, more drive.
Starting point is 00:48:35 The benefit to the AM workout though, is that I feel good afterwards. Right, it makes it your day. Yeah, exactly. I think that's the main benefit is just the way that the effects of it for the rest of your day and how you can sort of be productive and feel like you have energy and like it's it really energizes me if I can be disciplined about working out in the morning, but I much
Starting point is 00:48:55 prefer working out later just because of the fact I know I'm going to be stronger. I'm going to feel like I can do more at that point. So I train this morning at 6am, right? So that's early for me. I don't normally train that early in the morning. I'm like, Sal, I'm not gonna get up at four o'clock and have a big breakfast. So it's ready to use by six, right?
Starting point is 00:49:16 So, and eating a big breakfast a half hour or even an hour sometimes is not enough time to get that fully digested before I'd wanna get a lift in. So I typically will lean towards if I'm gonna be training early in the morning like that. I'm going to lean towards my workouts that I'm not trying to get after it. Like, I'm not squatting and deadlifting in the morning. I just don't. I mean, that's if I'm going to go do a bro workout or I'm doing kind of isolation stuff, stuff that does not require, I'm not looking to get after it really hard. I can go in there and get a good,
Starting point is 00:49:45 does not say I'm not getting a good workout. I can still get a very good workout off of doing buys and tries and shoulders and isolation exercises or like what I did this morning swimming. I can still have a good swim, but if I'm bouncing back and forth from sometimes night, sometimes morning and then I'm trying to, how do I set myself up?
Starting point is 00:50:03 I'm choosing the, and this could be the opposite for you too, though, you could be the opposite of us, and you're five A and workouts, you could feel amazing. Like some people are like that, like I don't feel strong in the morning time at all. No, I will say this, if you do workout early in the morning, you really have to make an emphasis on going to bed on time.
Starting point is 00:50:21 This becomes a much bigger deal than when you work out in the afternoon. It just does. So I always make sure, if I'm going to work out of five, I make sure I get a full eight hours of sleep and I treat my sleep even more importantly than I normally would, worth my night routine and stuff like that. Here's something else that's helped me a lot. And I'm actually getting a lot of messages now from people who are trying this and are seeing that it works for them too. That alarm clock that I told you guys about a while ago. I just ordered it.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Game changer, you just ordered one? You just ordered it, we ordered it yesterday. Yeah, that's what I could train to ask me about it yesterday. It's game changer and what it is, it's an alarm clock that, rather than waking you up with that, or whatever, it just, it slowly starts to glow and it mimics a rising sun. So if I set my alarm to wake me up at 6 and about 545, the low glow starts to glow and it mimics a rising sun. So if I set my alarm to wake me up at 6, at about 5.45, the low glow starts to come up. Very, very slowly.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Now by the time it hits 6 o'clock, it's full brightness, and I have like light, like bird sounds that are tripping. But it almost never gets to 6 o'clock. I almost always wake up about 5 or 10 minutes after the light starts to come on. And I wake up, like, you know how you wake up on your own naturally when you wake up in the morning,
Starting point is 00:51:28 so if you don't have an alarm, what are you just wake up now? That's how I wake up every single time. I don't feel like I'm being woken up. Makes a difference with my morning workouts. Because if I wake up in the morning abruptly with my alarm and then I go do my workout, it's like I feel like I'm dragging ass.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Yeah, like I'm dragging ass. Yeah, like I'm dragging ass. So that makes a big difference. I also typically will need stimulant in the morning to workout where in the afternoon, I like having a stimulant before I workout as well, but I don't need it. I'm the same one.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Like I do in the morning. Like if I'm gonna workout at 6am and I don't have caffeine, that's gonna suck. Oh man. That is a tough, good luck. Now here's the benefit of it though. I love having a nice breakfast after a hard work in the morning.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Feels good, I don't feel bogged down. And then the energy for the rest of the day seems to be pretty good, but you're right Adam, when it comes to like heavy squats and deadlifts and stuff like that, I mean I do them. But if I had like a mix of times, where some workouts are 5 a.m. and some workouts are 5 p.m. I would save the heavy, hard, you know, shit, especially the lower body stuff for the afternoon.
Starting point is 00:52:33 Because I just get more, I get more nauseous and tired so fast. And we're making a general statement right now that could very well be the opposite for some of the people. Like there's just some people I know that are all spry in the morning and they just... Yeah, wasn't there some study about like know that are all spry in the morning. And they just, wasn't there some study about like 7am, 1pm, or yeah, 1pm and 7pm. We just talked to somebody. Yeah, I think it was max maybe.
Starting point is 00:52:54 But they were trying to like identify what was the best time for, like the most optimal time for your body to respond to, you know, exercise and working out. And I think it said 7am was the most preferred, but one PM had the most... The best performance. The best performance, which made sense to me.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I'd deal the perfect time for me to work out. If I could construct my day just around my workout would be around noon or one. Yeah, one to three. That's my sweet spot. One to three, I love. Anything later than three tends to get my adrenaline. I have, I suppose you've got a really good workout.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Has a hard time coming down for me to sleep. Sure. If I do like four o'clock or beyond, fucks up my sleep. Anything earlier, I don't feel like I got enough gas in the tank, but man, I hit somewhere between that noon to three range right there and it's night and day. Now do you guys think that, well, I guess't feel like I got enough gas in the tank, but man, I hit somewhere between that noon to three range right there and it's night and day. Now, do you guys think that,
Starting point is 00:53:48 well, I guess we read the studies that say that 1 p.m. is best performance for most people, but I wonder if part of that is because the three of us have worked so long in fitness that the dead time is always right there. Yeah, we've also tri-worked out that way, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I trained most of my career,
Starting point is 00:54:04 although I have had definitely bouts of all over the place. Like I was consistent for a while. I was a five, six amp guy. I was consistent for a while. I was a 10 p.m. guy even. Like so I've done, you know, bouts. But the majority of it. But yeah, but the, because I think that's, because I kind of love, I love with that. I found that, and here you know what's funny?
Starting point is 00:54:21 What I found is on the most consistent with that time. I like my workouts the most on the most consistent with that time. I like my workouts the most. On the most consistent with that. Yeah, I like that time. Yeah. That's the thing. And I've tried multiple times too. Like five, six, seven, eight, and was,
Starting point is 00:54:34 I really tried to make it happen and was consistent with it, but it just, I never felt the way I felt when I kept to like one, two, p.m. Well, you know, today, right? So I swam today. I got an incredible seat left, and? So I swam today. I got incredibly blessed now. We are bed by like 10. And I've been noticing you, to your point of the alarm clock,
Starting point is 00:54:51 making sure my room is really blocked out. Sometimes I can allow my, my blinds from the other hallway, the, the, the street lights kind of coming in through the window and I can see it or we have a night light out in the hallway when you are, and that glowing comes in there And so when I take the time to actually make sure everything's blocked blocked out I and get to bed early. I'll sleep like I'll sleep hard. So I got great night sleep Had a great swim this this morning the problem is though and I felt I felt all of it
Starting point is 00:55:19 But I'm I'm already starting to feel coming down like I'm starting I'm tired like I can go home to get nap right now That sounds so good. That's what I don't like about the morning. It affects me like, like midday. Yeah, yeah, I get tired. Yeah, midday, I'm tired. That's why I used to love the afternoon workout. And it also would break out my day.
Starting point is 00:55:36 So I train clients in the morning. I usually start work at 7am or 8am. I train clients till noon. Then I'd have a break till three. And I'd do my workout and I'd have time afterwards to eat and go for a walk and do my paperwork And then I train again from three till usually seven or 8pm and I just was very productive that way That would be ideal But yeah, if you work out early early in the morning you got to give it time
Starting point is 00:55:59 You will start to acclimate you'll get better at it I don't know if you'll ever be as good as your favorite time to work out, but it does get better. Next question is from Bare Bowen. Do BFR bands actually work? We haven't talked about blood flow restriction in a long time. Yeah, we haven't. We have a guide. A lot of people don't know this. We have a blood flow restriction guide or occlusion training guide on our website. And the reason why we made a guide is because, if you do it right, it definitely works.
Starting point is 00:56:29 For 100%. This is one of the few, single, weird techniques that I've learned in the last 10 years that has actually legit. Has some substance to it. Yes, and so basically the way it works is, and I'll use the arms as an example, is you'll use knee wraps or BFR bands
Starting point is 00:56:46 they now make, and you kind of tie off your upper arm up by where your armpit is or where your arm meets your shoulder, and you tie it off tight enough to where it starts to restrict blood flow coming out of the muscle. Now you don't want to tie it so tight that it makes your hand dumb. That's too tight, But tight enough to where you can feel some pressure in your arm and your hand because of the blood flow restriction. And then what you do is you go and you do a few sets of lightweight in your arms with a relatively short rest period. And when it ends up happening is because the blood pulls into the muscle and it can't come out like it normally does, you have this pooling of waste in the muscle and the burn that you get from doing this is,
Starting point is 00:57:29 it's the most unreal burn you'll ever get. And the pump you get from this is insane. And you can't use very heavy weight. If I do curls with this, 20%. It's gonna be 20% of your load. And it should be so light because the very first set, the protocol, like the, I mean, is,
Starting point is 00:57:46 and you could play with this, but they think they've done enough, and I remember Lane had shared information on the studies that they did, and the protocol should fall something like this. 30 repetitions for set one, 15 seconds rest, and then you go 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15. So five total sets, 15 second rest periods in between first set is 30 go 15, 15, 15, 15, 15. So five total sets, 15 second rest periods
Starting point is 00:58:06 in between first set is 30 and 15. And it should be a weight that you can do all the way through that. And you'll see if you, that's always an indicator that you chose a weight. I'm saying, we're saying a number like 20%, right? But the fuck is 20% everybody? You should be able to grab a weight that's so light
Starting point is 00:58:23 that do the math right there. You know, how many repetitions you're gonna do with hardly any rest? It's gonna have to be super light. And when that waist buildup kicks in, you lose your strength quick. Like by the third set, 10 pound dumbbells feel like they're 50 pounds. And I can barely curl them.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And the pump gets so intense, it's insane. And so the reason why this works is because signals muscle growth not through damage or through heavy mechanical stress. Like it's just like how we would if we were getting a pump and high-perturface. Yeah, you're just, but to the 10th degree, it signals it through waste buildup
Starting point is 00:58:59 and it sends all these signals to build muscle. Now can you compare building muscle with occlusion or BFR training to traditional training? No, not the same. all these signals to build muscle. Now can you compare building muscle with occlusion or BFR training to traditional training? No, not the same. You can't replace it, but you want to do it in addition to. Now I use this pretty consistently when we first started the MindPump podcast where Adam and I were going through this period of trying to get our calves to grow. And those were just body parts that. Him and I had neglected for a long time where they just didn't grow like the rest of our body. And so we started seeing how much we could make our calves grow. And man, when I did the BFR,
Starting point is 00:59:34 I saw a good quarter inch come on my calves real quick. No, I think the reason why we stopped talking about it so much was kind of similar to the fasting thing. It's like, we wanted to introduce us, or introduce, introduce our audience to it when it was first of the similar to the fasting thing. It's like, we wanted to introduce our audience to it when it was first coming out, when the science was just getting revealed kind of, and we were learning about it ourselves, we were testing it on ourselves, we were very fascinated by what we had seen. And so then we introduced it with this guide,
Starting point is 00:59:59 and then we also at the same time called what we were going to see, which was this, everybody now turning it into like this another way to market it. So, yeah, and it's not, and what? And what replaced regular work? No, it doesn't, and what I noticed was, if I train my program exactly the same, how I always train my, in my CAS,
Starting point is 01:00:18 but then I introduced that, the BFR, in addition to what I stay consistent with, then I saw great results. If I started going, well, I didn't train my calves, I can normally be on Tuesday, but I'll just do BFR, and then that would replace it. Like, no, then I saw my, I started to see my calves dip back down.
Starting point is 01:00:36 So I had to keep the same amount of volume of training on my calves to maintain the size they were at. And then when I added the BFR, it was like, and what's cool about it is it's so easy. I mean, and, you know, doing calves, a great example is I would tie off and use my stares and just my body weight. Because with calves like that,
Starting point is 01:00:56 I mean, that's, I'm only, I'm not, I wouldn't be able to stack very much on my shoulders anyways or I could hold, I think I got up to like, holding like a 20 pound, you know, down that. Well, it's also a valid way to rehab. That's the best so that's why so that's why how it started. Yeah, it started that way and and I believe you see a lot of I think it started in NHL. It's made to win NBA now now all all professional teams use this. It's flat. It's protocol. I mean if you get you tear an ACL now keelilles, you think that, like,
Starting point is 01:01:25 you're using blood, it just makes total sense. Because what you used to have to wait, like a major injury on like a, your ACL, MCL, whatever, if you had something go like that, you had to wait until it was like, fully, fully healed before you're doing any sort of quad training or calf training or anything surrounding that joint
Starting point is 01:01:44 because you wouldn't want to re-endure it. Well, it's cool about doing the blood occlusion any sort of quad training or calf training or anything surrounding that joint because you wouldn't want to re-endure it. Well, it's cool about doing the blood occlusion is you're doing such a light load, the risk for re-enduring it is really, really low. But you get the muscle building. But you get the muscle building. Yeah. So it allows athletes.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And I've used this stuff with the Achilles stuff. I've used it with my knee. So I've already used it multiple times injuries. I have clients. I've already used it on for those purposes. Well, it's a lot like, I mean, a comparison for me has been isometrics and why I got so vested in that because it's such a valid technique, but it applies to like certain like aspects like that rehab. Great. Awesome. You know, like certain performance hacks. Great. Awesome. You know, but it's like, it's one of those things
Starting point is 01:02:25 that you wanna introduce and bring in intermittently, but it's not, it's not gonna replace heavyweight training. And that's where I think we stopped talking about very much. And we didn't wanna send that message that it was like, BFR is like, didn't fucking to make it. And you can overdo it, I did, I overdo it. I started doing BFR trigger sessions. So, you know, I would do the maps and a ball of protocol
Starting point is 01:02:43 of trigger sessions, and I thought, wow, why don't I just occlude my arms? Every time I do these trigger sessions. So, you know, I would do the maps and a ball of protocol of trigger sessions. And I thought, wow, why don't I just aclude my arms every time I do these trigger sessions, I should get better gains. And I actually started to feel the symptoms of over training. So you can also overdo this. But I think rehab is its best application. And if you're advanced, this is not something I would have somebody do. They're not working out consistently. I was I was up to five days a week of training my calves already. So I'd built a strength training, normal training straight sets, and then I was starting to tack that on a couple of times a week.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Now what they're trying to do is sell these bands that are supposed to be great for using. Fucking knee wraps. Just use knee wraps that have a velcro closing, so you can close them really easily. I found knee wraps to be superior because there's the wide circumference, the wide, you know what they are. Yeah, you don't want those thin ones. No, the thin strap cut off too much and it doesn't do as effective as job. Yeah, when I use the knee wraps, that was the
Starting point is 01:03:39 best, especially the one with the loop where you can put the knee wrap loop through the arm and then just it's velcro at the end and you tie it off and boom you're done. I actually did a video on this. I believe I did a video with what's that dude's name that YouTube guy that came to visit with us? GG Mufu. No not GG Mufu. What's the name Keto? What's the name? Oh you did that on his channel. Did I do it on his channel? Yeah you did it on his channel. That was Brandon Carter. There you go. Brandon Carter. We did a whole video of BFR on his channel
Starting point is 01:04:09 where we kind of showed it to his audience. But it is a new technique, relatively new. It definitely does work. Doesn't replace regular workouts. If you're advanced and you're already working out consistently and you're just looking for every little hack to maximize your gains, give it a shot. Here's the thing though, it only really works on your extremities. They do say that there's this kind of carryover effect working out consistently and you're just looking for every little hack to maximize your gains. Give it a shot.
Starting point is 01:04:25 Here's a thing though, it only really works on your extremities. They do say that there's this kind of carry-over effect to the other parts of the body. I have you to see it. So it's really good for arms and legs, including the calves. You can't really do it for your chest, your back, or your glutes. Next question is from Justin Eze. What are some accountability practices, tools, and methods you guys use to keep clients motivated and on track? This is why, and I know this is hard because I get pushed back with the new trainers and
Starting point is 01:04:52 I get it because it's tough at the beginning to be like, you know, when you're trying to build your business and you just take every client, right? You take people that you probably know damn well are not going to stick to it and are you know, you're going to fall off, but you need business, you're know damn well are not gonna stick to it and are gonna fall off, but you need business, you're trying to grow your business. But you eventually wanna get to a place where these types of conversations are had before you run into it.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Like I would tell clients, like, you know, we're gonna do these things because the majority of people, and I wanna say that because I don't wanna single them out and make them feel like they're lazy or they're gonna fail, but most people have a really hard time staying accountable to XYZ, whatever that is. And the longer I become a trainer, the less I actually did as a trainer,
Starting point is 01:05:39 and the more responsibility I learned to put on the client. And what I realized was the people that were willing to take on that responsibility and to do those things were the same ones that always got the results. And the ones that weren't willing to even take on the responsibility of tracking for themselves or paying attention to the things I'm telling them to pay attention to, those are the fucking ones that never get the results. And I would I would tell that into a presentation on the very first time sitting down as I would tell the person, these are, there's two types of people I take on as clients. The ones that see the results, the ones that don't. Let me tell you who the ones that do are. And then I would lay that out for them. So then when I turn around and I say, so these are the things I need from you. I need you to weigh your food. I need you to to to get on the scale. I need you to track your water.
Starting point is 01:06:23 And I expect those things because if you really are that series about which one I do and you want all of my expertise, then fuck if you give me all the information, you provide all the information, I can give you a lot of fucking knowledge. But if you come to me every day and say, I think I did this and I kind of did that. And yeah, I'm sure I was under this or, oh yeah, I'll remember to get on the scale next week. It's like, I can't help you. Yeah, it's not your job to be, to hold people accountable.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Or at least if you think that's your job, it's not gonna be a very effective, you're not gonna be very effective personal trainer. No. The key is not to be the trainer that's calling people and I used to do this early on, I'd call people, hey, what did you eat yesterday? I know we're not working out today,
Starting point is 01:07:06 but what are you eating? You know, hey, what's going on? Did you do your cardio, you know? Kind of staying on top of people? That's not gonna work long-term, obviously. Just doesn't work. Your job as a trainer, if you wanna be successful, is to be an effective guide.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Your job is to be a maven of information, and a guide. And to also walk this person through their process of modifying and changing their behaviors permanently, permanent change, real change, that happens slow. And so your job really is a trainer is to communicate that to people and to say to them, okay, because here's the bigger challenge.
Starting point is 01:07:44 What's really going to happen is it's more often than not, you're gonna get a client that comes to you gung ho and says, I'm ready to do, I'm ready to change everything all at once right now. That's really gonna say to you, okay, give me your diet, give me a diet, give me my workouts, I'm gonna lose this way, it's gonna be great. That's the more often than not client
Starting point is 01:08:01 that you're gonna get. Your job is to explain to them, look, I'm glad you're excited and pumped up and motivated. That's gonna help us a lot. In my experiences of training and I've trained lots of people, what works the best is if we tackle one small thing at a time. We tackle something that you think you can do
Starting point is 01:08:19 realistically and that you think you can stick to forever and we'll do that first. And once you do that and you do it consistently And it becomes a part of your life to the point where you're never gonna go back to the old way again Then we move on to the next one and it doesn't matter how long it takes you however long it takes you however long it takes you because the goal here is permanent change That's your job as a personal trainer your job is not to hover over them and
Starting point is 01:08:42 Watch what they're doing and and and talk to them about why they screwed up and why did they eat that? No, because they didn't ask too much about you. Did you try to just like all these motivational turds on Instagram? That's all your whole business is built. Your whole business is built around fucking being a raw raw cheerleader.
Starting point is 01:08:59 That shit will get old so fast. You know the people that works for? People who are already super self-motivated, like, if you're a Rauron inspiring type person and I met you when I was 19 years old, that would have worked on me, but I was already like that, you know what I'm saying? The average person, that'll work for a very short period
Starting point is 01:09:16 of time and then they're gone. Not to mention when someone hires you as a trainer, like, that's like, fuck, it's school. It's a school time. This is you paying me for all the all the knowledge, all the experience, all the shit that I've learned over all these years. You're paying me to take you through school in a crash course. So I need as much information from you as possible for me to send you off with as much knowledge as possible.
Starting point is 01:09:41 This is this is just as ridiculous as this analogy I'm gonna give you. Imagine if you went to a Kung Fu master in China, you went to a Shaolin monk who'd been studying Kung Fu for 40 years, and you said to him, I'm ready to be a Kung Fu master, I wanna be one in three months. He's gonna fucking laugh at you because the practices it takes to become a master
Starting point is 01:10:03 takes a very, very long, long, slow time and it's work. No different than taking someone who's never worked out who has no idea what their macros or calories look like. Doesn't even know what's good for them in terms of nutrition. Just kind of thinks they know what's good but really does have any idea. It's no different than taking that person from there to a point where fitness and health and wellness is now just a part of their life.
Starting point is 01:10:26 Yeah, and all that said, what you can do is be consistent, is be there, be scheduled, be regimented, be on top of your shit every single time, be the most professional, you know, have the rock. Yeah, you're the rock, you never change, you're unwavering. No, that's a very good point. The consistency on your part,
Starting point is 01:10:48 even down to like laying your program out. Another thing that I always tell trainers that listen to the show and ask these types of questions will be talked. This is type of stuff I talk about DM a lot with, is we laid the blueprints out so you can become more of a professional trainer. I mean, really, it's designed one so the consumer can pick up the program, learn and read from it, but really
Starting point is 01:11:09 we've built all these skeletal programs for trainers to lay out the same way that I would coach my trainers that worked for me for many years. It's like listen, when you have a client, you have established what their adaptation goal is, what they want to do, you, you're, they've only signed with you for 12 sessions, which only gets me through about a month or a month and a half, but I know I need them for three, four or five months. Lay your program out for that way. So you know what types of workouts you want to do over the next three, four, five, six months. That's a great way to set them up. Resign wise, plus a forecast so they know what's coming ahead of them. You be this
Starting point is 01:11:43 consistent person. It's a lot easier for you to hold them accountable when they've been told from you that, oh, next week you're doing your foundational day and then you've got this, then you've got that. Oh, you didn't make it? Oh, I was there. Right. You know, it's funny too, early on when I first became a trainer,
Starting point is 01:11:58 my goal was like, I'm gonna get them to lose that 30 pounds just like they want. I'm gonna give them a meal plan. I'm gonna motivate them. I'm gonna inspire them. I'm gonna hold them accountable. And I would get clients that lose that 30 pounds just like they want. I'm going to give them a meal plan. I'm going to motivate them. I'm going to inspire them. I'm going to hold them accountable. And I would get clients that would lose weight and stuff like that. Later on, I understood it's a slow process.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I understood that these are behavioral changes. The irony is, when I understood that later on, I kept clients for 10 years, 15 years. Now the weight would look as like this. Client would start with me right now. We're going to train three days a week. At some point, I start to notice that they're more consistent with things on their own. They're doing better.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Then when I have a conversation with them, and I'd say something like, Susan, you're, you're, looks like you're kicking ass, you're doing stuff on your own. It's been six months, like your nutrition start to look better. I don't think I need to train you three days a week anymore. I think two days a week will be fine. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Then she hires me for two days a week. Then we do that for a while. Eventually, over the course of the years, I had a ton of clients that I would train once every other week or once a month. And they were doing the rest of it on their own. And the funny thing is, I don't train these people anymore. We're talking four years later,
Starting point is 01:12:59 and these clients, they're all consistent. They have made these are lifestyle changes that they've made, and these are permanent changes. And I'm talking about people who did not work out when they came and hired me. That's success as a personal trainer. And it does not come from being the person to hold them accountable.
Starting point is 01:13:16 It comes from guiding people, guiding them the right way, and letting them be okay with the fact that it takes time because a lot of times, the clients themselves are like, hey, I'm not getting to my goal as fast as I want. You can sit them down and be like, that's okay, it's not time yet. It's taking some time. Here's what you've already done. You've been consistent twice a week with me. Looks like you're drinking more water.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Your sleep's better. We're already winning on some things. I know you want to lose the weight, but we know what that takes. It doesn't seem like you're ready for it. That's how I would have conversations with clients. Sometimes I would actually get people to get their ass moving. Sometimes they'd be like, oh, okay, he says I'm not ready. I'm going to show him or whatever and it would work.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Next question is from Looney Moment. What age do you think your sons will overtake you in strength? Do you hope it happens sooner rather than later? Oh, man, it's funny. I remember the day I realized that I was stronger than my dad, or at least I could beat him. We talked about this. Yeah, we were at least a grapple in my living room. We'd move the couch to the side and we had to carve it and we'd wrestle.
Starting point is 01:14:15 He'd always kick my ass and I got older and stronger and lifted weights and practiced judo. I got better and better. I think I was probably 18 or 19 and by this point I was already pretty strong I was a personal trainer already and I got him on an ankle lock and I caught him good And I started I cranked on it and he didn't want to tap out and he tried to roll and I cranked harder and I popped his ankle Let go yeah, let go real fast and he stopped and, you know, he had to kind of wrap his ankle. And he was a weird fucking vibe. I bet it was.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Cause he knew, and I knew that I got him. And I don't like the feeling. I'm like, oh man, I beat my dad. And then after that, I never did. I never went crazy hard against him again. And it was a very strange feeling. It's because I respected him so much. Yeah, no, I'm right.
Starting point is 01:15:03 I told that story of when I was wrestling with my dad and he used all of his body mass to just smother me. And I couldn't even move. Because I mean, he's 6'7, he was 250, 260. And so he's just like, just like all of his weight on me. And then there's that moment where I finally, I've been lifting weights crazy, just motivated. motivated, you know, over the summer trying to get ready for football and I was able to just sort of buck him off and then just term and then
Starting point is 01:15:33 I pushed him up and off me and he just had this look on his face like of pure surprise and like he never even would have thought that would happen. I honestly, this makes me wanna like interview him or like today I'm gonna ask him like what he thought, you know, because I'm sure you're members at. Cause for me, I don't know what that's gonna feel like. Cause you're tonight, it's like, yeah. I mean, I can't even picture that
Starting point is 01:15:56 because it's like, I wrestle with the kids simultaneously. And I'm like, you know, I'm like pushing this one over here. I'm throwing this one over here. And I'm like, I always got a good handle on it. But there's gonna be a day, you know, I'm like pushing this one over here. I'm throwing this one over here. And I'm like, I always got a good handle on it. But there's gonna be a day, you know, where they're gonna like grab my arm and like twist by my back and I'm gonna like squeal or something.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Yeah, I think it's gonna happen. Well, it depends on if our suns really get into heart because I was into, they get an uphill battle for this. Yeah, because I train, I'm never gonna stop. Oh, I'm not gonna stop, dude. That's motivating. If my son starts training and he takes it seriously, like I did, I have to anticipate by the time he's in his 20s,
Starting point is 01:16:33 I'm gonna be at that point in my 50s, he's probably gonna have an upper hand, I would imagine. Now, if we were to wrestle, I'll probably have an upper hand just because I did Jitsu for six years and he didn't. But I don't know, it'll probably be around his 20s. Now if he doesn't lift weights, it's gonna be a lot longer than that because I'm gonna keep training, you know. Yeah, that's how I see, figure, I got Max,
Starting point is 01:16:53 who's gonna be born just this year. So 20 years from now, yeah, 20 years from now, maybe 58 or whatever. Yeah, 58, that's probably, his best shot is, he starts at like 15 years old and it goes ham till 20 Mm-hmm That's his and that would be that and I'm almost 60 at that point. Yeah, you might be all geared up at 60 Sure, that's not even a question. Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:15 So he's still gonna have but I mean still I'm gonna be I already know how I'll probably be lifting at that age and Comparison to probably have the things they put the same way you start to like tailor off of like how I snowboard now. Like, I don't do anything I used to do because I know the risk versus reward it there. So I'm sure I won't be trying to deadlift no five six hundred pounds anymore. Like when I'm almost 60, right? I'll deadlift, but it'll probably be more modest, you know. So you start picking contests that you know you can win at. It's what I said up excited.
Starting point is 01:17:42 My dad to this day, my dad's very competitive. Till this day, my dad's very competitive. Till this day, he's 61 now. And till this day, he'll start, he'll fuck with my brother and I, and my brother's even bigger than I am. But my dad's hands, they're just made out of a different, they're not even human tissue. I don't know if they're made out of, he's been working with his hands since he was a child. So his fingers are just like made out of cement. So he does this thing where he makes his hook fingers like this and then we twist
Starting point is 01:18:05 and the other guy has to give up. Well just hooking around his big ass finger alone is difficult and then he squeezes and twists and so till this day he probably could fuck with us and so that's what he tries to do with it. What he does, he picks the battles. Did I tell you guys about the time? What are you gonna do? Did I tell you about? Well my brother How are you gonna do? Did I tell you about when my brother was, I wanna say my brother was 17, and we were all driving to, or I wasn't with them,
Starting point is 01:18:31 but they were all driving up to Sacramento to visit family, and my brother wanted to take his own car. So my brother, I don't remember what car he was driving at the time, he had some little rice rocket all souped up, and my dad had his Accura, and he was with my mom mom and my brother was in his own car and they were driving up to Sacramento and my, my brother and my dad saw a racing and my mom's fucking yelling
Starting point is 01:18:55 screaming but you know she can't stop my dad. So they're racing up the freeway up to up to Sacramento and they both get pulled over and get a ticket. So my dad's my dad's my dad's the cop was like wait a minute That's your son. He's 17 and you're racing him. You're a fucking terrible example. What are you doing? So he got a ticket racing my dad and it's like nobody could get mad on my brother because So my dad's the one that got in trouble for that shit But I can I can see stuff like that, you know My I know my son now could kick my ass at certain things. Like, I won't play chess against him.
Starting point is 01:19:26 He'll bury me, no problem. Oh, wow, he's that much better. Yeah, dude. Wow, now see, how did you let that happen? Because I could never play chess. My son was on the chess team. Because I say, I play, I've played, I'm not great, but I play chess.
Starting point is 01:19:37 And so I want to stay higher. I want to say better than my son for sure. No, no, no, no, my boy can already kill me. And then we have this game called, I think it's called roomy cube run me cube I told you guys about this and it's a numbers game Well my son's a fucking wizard when it comes to math and and I'm not I never have been so we're doing this and this This shit comes out and he does like Ten steps
Starting point is 01:20:00 I won and so he starts talking shit to me now So he's won like three times and I've won once and so now he talks shit And he's like can we just end the game? We already know him in a win like he does stuff like that But here's what I have she what a slap him well here's why I have the advantage I have the advantage of being older and I can handle shit talk. He's only 13. I know he can't handle shit talk Yeah, so I'm waiting for when I win and And so this happened to me then I won, and I was relentless. I was just talking shit all night, just relentless. He was so bad at me.
Starting point is 01:20:32 He didn't like talk to me all night. I had to take up a side, and I was like, listen, I'm like, you gotta be able to handle that, dude. I'm like, that's what's gonna happen. You're gonna go to high school, call. It's like dudes are gonna talk crap. Yeah, especially if you talk shit. Yeah, come on, buddy.
Starting point is 01:20:42 Yeah, you know what I mean? Yeah, take it. Yeah, so it's talk to you. Yeah, come on, buddy. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, take it. Yeah. So you should out. But it's, it's fun, dude. I, there's a, there's a passing of the torch moment, I think, with your kid. It's certain. It's, it's almost inevitable. I guess the only way that it, it's not is, because I don't see any of us slowing down as far as ever. I mean, stopping training. So continue to train. And I can't,
Starting point is 01:21:01 the, my son would have to be really dedicated for 10 years of lifting to even have a shot. Because I'm stronger today than I, I mean, at 37 going on 38, I'm stronger than I was at 25. So, I mean, and a lot of that is just from years and years and years and years of consistent training.
Starting point is 01:21:20 I feel like, I definitely feel like they're gonna be gone in for it because already They're competitive with me with food like they're they're trying to like take all the meat, you know They're trying to take all the bacon. They're like They want they want my seat At the kitchen table. It's my seat, you know, and they're they're all like both on there like trying to ha ha You know like my god of my seat. Yeah, but they do that stuff all the time on there, like trying to, ha ha ha ha, you know, like, I'm like, get out of my seat. But they do that stuff all the time, because they know, like, you know, it makes me like,
Starting point is 01:21:49 flip my handle, you know. You know what's great about that? My grandfather, when we were kids, he was like that. He was like that with us too, when we were kids and teenagers, my grandfather was fuck with us. But you know, he was obviously my grandfather, so he's older. And I'll never forget this one time, my cousin and I,
Starting point is 01:22:02 were probably 17 or 18 years old So we're kind of like these big you know teenagers by this point and We went over to my grandparents house to say hi my grandfather, but this point now he's old or whatever We go inside and my grandfather comes inside and says that some kids you go There's some guys stealing some of my oranges and I tried to tell him to stop and they threw one of the oranges at me And my cousin and I fucking book it outside trying to find these dudes, right? He was so proud. He was so proud that his grandsons were you know doing that So I hope there's a moment like that with my boy. You know where I'm like I can't lift any desert for me
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