Morning Brew Daily - AI Coming for Fashion Models? & Travelers Scramble for REAL IDs
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morning brew daily show. I'm Neil Freyman.
And I'm Toby Howell. Today, your
McLevin driver's license isn't going to cut it at
airports anymore. What you should know about
the real ID deadline that's coming up fast.
Then a fashion giant
H&M is making digital clones
of its models so they can walk a runway
in Tokyo while doing a photo shoot in
Paris. It's Tuesday, April
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So we're following what the data is telling us. And starting this week, we're going to be shifting to an afternoon schedule.
Yeah, we absolutely loved beginning our mornings with you, but we want to meet you all where you're at, which is the afternoon hours.
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Additionally, with that time change in mind, it didn't make sense for us to keep calling ourselves morning brew daily.
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AI models are once again the subject of a raging debate this week,
but this time it's not open AI we're talking about.
No, this week, the AI models that are driving debate are actual models,
digital replicas of real-life people who are indistinguishable from their human counterparts.
It might soon appear in online marketing campaigns.
the business of fashion reported last week.
The Fast Fashion Giant H&M announced that it is partnering with agencies to create AI-generated
twins of 30 or show fashion models this year for use on their social media and marketing campaigns.
The company is in the exploratory phase of the project and stressed that real humans would be
quote, in full control of when the digital twin would be used and it will of course get paid when it is being used.
Still, it's opened up an uncomfortable can of worms in the fashion industry.
Critics say that while models may benefit from having a likeness that can extend beyond in-person shoots,
other pieces of the creative puzzle like photographers, lighting specialists, and hair and makeup stylists are all going to be affected.
It echoes similar worries Hollywood had that led to a strike in 2023, with writers and actors pushing back on AI creeping into the film and TV industry.
Still, H&M are not the first to test out AI-generated models.
Hugo Boss and Levi's have already given it a whirl, and they likely won't.
be the last. But Neil, what I think is especially unsettling about what H&M is doing is just how
scary, accurate the representations are. The first time one of the models, Vilma Schoberg,
saw her digital twin. She said, it was interesting how good it actually was, noting that not even
her boyfriend could tell the difference between her and her AI doppelganger, which both speaks
to the quality of this technology and also landed the boyfriend in the doghouse.
When you think about how much marketing collateral that the fashion industry needs to produce on a daily, weekly, yearly basis is almost unfathomable.
So you can see why brands like H&M or other fashion companies want to reduce costs or find ways to streamline their process so that they don't have to pay as much to produce all this marketing collateral.
And one of them, there's this opportunity afforded by generative AI to create these data.
digital twins. It's been happening in the auto industry for a very long time for marketing,
and it's creeping into the fashion industry as well. H&M has certainly started a conversation
with this announcement, and that's kind of what they wanted to do. Jorgon Anderson, who is the
chief creative officer of H&M, said we saw this as a way, as a big player in the industry to lead a
conversation that takes the model, the agency, and the best interest of the fashion industry
into consideration. You can debate the second part of that sentence, but what they have done is
certainly start a conversation. Right. And I do think that they think being up front about their AI
usage is the way forward here. And involving the actual stakeholders in the process, which are the
models themselves, is a much better way of going about it than, you know, trying to replace them
on the low low. So I do think that that is one of the reasons why this is maybe getting a little bit more,
I don't know, consideration from the industry at whole versus another way of,
going about it. So how does this actually work, though? To create the twins, H&M takes just a lot of
pictures of the models in motion. They go all the way down to details like birth marks, how they move,
how they walk, their movement patterns to generate enough data to create this accurate twin.
And I mean, I mentioned the boyfriend thing, but a lot of people, they surveyed people within
the own company, H&M, and only a slim majority could actually distinguish the difference.
So it looks like the technology is finally meeting the moment where it's,
at. And I do think if you are a model and you want to, you know, expand your visibility,
what a great way to do it is, I mentioned at the beginning of the show that you can be at a
shoot in Tokyo while also at a shoot in Paris at the same time. This allows you to basically
expand your likeness across the globe with no real bounds of geography anymore, which could be
a major unlock of revenue for these people. Yeah, they quoted one model as saying,
she's like me without the jet lag talking about her digital twin.
They quoted another model saying finally away from me to be in New York and Tokyo on the same day.
And the implications of that are kind of massive.
You know, you wonder whether these top end models will get more work and squeeze the bottom
end of the industry because they can be in New York and Tokyo on the same day in a fashion
shoot in Tokyo or on a runway in New York at the same time.
so you only need to hire these people twice, essentially.
So it's kind of mind-boggling to think about what it will happen to the hierarchy of models.
And also, of course, what will happen to everyone working on photo shoots.
That is the main concern about AI replacing people's jobs is that you have all these
stylists, photographers, lighting assistants that currently work on photo shoots.
The big pushback to H&M's announcement is that this will replace their jobs.
I do think this is how far we've come a moment as well, because if you go back
to 2011, H&M tried to work with AI back then. At that time, the technology was not exactly
where it was today. And so they were superimposing the heads of real models onto computer-generated
mannequins for a swimwear campaign. That was universally panned. So there is some parallels and
some symmetry here showing just how far the technology has arrived and just how much H&M has been
trying to do something like this over the last decades. So we'll see if the wider industry starts
embracing this practice or if it's one of those things, much like happened in Hollywood, that gets
a lot of pushback and ends up, you know, not actually becoming a widespread thing.
You all know that tomorrow, President Trump is expected to announce sweeping tariffs on countries
around the world that have higher trade barriers than the U.S.
Those countries are likely to respond with tariffs of their own, escalating this simmering
conflict into an all-out global trade war.
Caught in the crossfire, perhaps more than any other sector, are American farmers.
U.S. farmers help feed the world, exporting an estimated $170 billion worth of agricultural products this fiscal year.
On the flip side, that makes their pork, fruits, veggies, and soybeans prime targets for other countries aiming to strike back against U.S. tariffs.
We've already seen this play out with the first round of tariffs last month.
After the Trump administration raised tariffs on Chinese imports, China retaliated by putting a 15% tariff on U.S. chicken, wheat, corn, and cotton.
and Canada slapped 25% tariffs on processed foods such as wine, sausages, and baked goods.
Given that Canada, China, and Mexico are the three biggest foreign buyers of American farm goods,
the agricultural industry is at risk of losing market share in those countries due to tariffs.
The president has said that domestic demand will make up for those losses in exports,
telling farmers they'll benefit by making more product to be sold inside the United States.
Still, there is a great deal of apprehension out on the plains in a Purdue,
University study, over half of farmers said that trade policy was their most important issue
over the next five years.
Farmers are contending with a lot of challenges right now.
One of the issues is that USDA and aid funding is in limbo right now with the new administration
coming in and pausing a lot of that aid.
And also, you have the tariffs that are being lobbed at their main trading partners,
China, Canada, and Mexico.
And then also deportations are impacting a tight, already tight agricultural label market.
And this is a very uncertain industry.
I mean, even beyond those things I just mentioned, just weather is one of the hardest
reasons why it's so hard to turn a profit as a farmer.
So the government has typically stepped in and tried to smooth over some of those uncertainties
with these aid programs.
But now with those aid programs up in the air, the word uncertainty has just come roaring
back.
And a lot of farmers are going, where does this actually leave us?
Well, last time in 2018, Trump put tariffs on China.
China put tariffs back on corn, soybean.
hogs and sorghum from the United States. The United States stepped in with aid to farms.
They sent direct payments totaling $28 billion to help smooth that over, as you mentioned,
preventing a financial catastrophe hitting farms because they saw these foreign markets dry up.
It looks like a similar thing could happen this time around.
Again, we don't know exactly what tariffs are coming from the U.S. tomorrow, and we don't know
what the retaliation would be, but Agricultural Secretary Brooke Rollins said that the administration
is probably going to provide financial support for farmers if they see their markets dry up overseas.
So that would probably be a lot more than $28 billion because that was just a trade war with China back in 2018.
This is going to be a trade war with the whole world, including Canada and Mexico,
which are two of the top three foreign markets for U.S. farmers.
So we'll have to see how the details play out.
But the U.S. farmers are certainly in the center of this trade war.
If you don't have a real ID yet, you really got to get on.
because the May 7th deadline is looming.
Those who don't use a passport to fly will have to show TSA a real ID,
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A. FEDERALI.A.
in order to board a domestic flight to go visit your grandparents in West Palm.
How do you know if you're already part of the real ID gang?
The marking varies by state to state, but for the most part, look at the top of your card
for a gold star.
There's a lot of you, though, who do not get a gold star when it comes to time management.
about one in five travelers currently flying in the U.S. are not real ID compliant, according to the TSA.
And that has led to insane demand at DMVs. People across the country have reported hours-long lines,
especially in places like Pennsylvania, where the opt-in rate for real ID's sits at just 26%.
In Florida, demand is so high that a network of scalpers has popped up selling off DMV appointments they've hoarded for a profit.
Now, getting stuck in a long line may not be entirely your fault.
The federal government has delayed the deadline for enforcement three times now, but this time
it is pinky promising that you better get your ducks in a row.
Neil, feel like this is something we've all seen on airport signs for years now, but it's
finally happening.
It's finally happening.
And just this morning, I checked.
And it turns out, I am one of those one in five travelers that are flying through
U.S. airports without a real ID.
So I guess I need to get on that.
The good news is that you can use your passport instead.
That will work if you do need to fly after May 7th and you don't have your real ID.
But it just shows that New York was one of those states that issued not fake IDs, but not real IDs alongside real IDs.
And somehow I ended up with a non-real ID.
So yes, I would encourage you to look at your driver's license because this May 7th date is approaching.
And it's been an absolutely long time coming, which I think led to this.
scramble at DMVs over the past few weeks.
This was initially part of a law from 2005, and the goal was to increase security around
IDs.
It was pushed back three times during the pandemic.
And now, I guess, finally, it is coming.
And yeah, you see DMVs all around the country, kind of expanding hours, New York,
said it was opening DMVs on Saturdays, which it hadn't before in order to get more appointments
in.
Yeah, it is interesting, too, the approach that some states are taking.
on Illinois's
Secretary of State's website, they say
don't rush the date,
real ID can wait,
which sounds to be
exactly opposite
of what we're saying
right now.
Basically they're saying
don't put this massive crush
on DMVs right now.
We cannot support you.
You can just fly with your passport,
get a real idea a little bit later.
But it is just classic,
you know, I don't know,
Americans procrastinating
until the very last moment.
I mean, May 7th is coming up here.
I encourage you to get all your documents
in line to
because a lot of these horror stories,
we are reading where people who waited hours in these DMV lines and then show up at the front
and say, oh, you don't have the appropriate documents you need to, you know, verify your
identity to get this new real ID. So make sure you have your ducks in a row. Make sure you get this done,
especially if you have, you know, some trips coming up in the summer. Up next, we're talking about
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Now we need to talk about a letter.
No, it's not the thank you notes you rush through after your wedding.
it's the annual letter to shareholders penned by BlackRock CEO Larry Fink and released yesterday.
This letter is read even more closely in investing circles than Warren Buffett's yearly
missive because BlackRock is the largest asset manager in the world.
It has large stakes in hundreds of public companies.
And Fink has caused tectonic shifts on Wall Street with his statements on topics like
ESG and sustainability in the past.
In essence, as BlackRock goes, so goes the finance world.
So where is the finance world going now?
into private investments, which was the main theme of Fink's letter this year.
Fink said he wants regular Americans to have more access to private investments such as
real estate, infrastructure, private loans that are currently only available to
institutional investors such as pension firms and insurance companies.
In his call to democratize private investing, Fink wrote,
Assets that Will Define the Future, Data Centers, Ports, Power Grids,
the world's fastest growing private companies, aren't available to most investors.
there in private markets locked behind high walls with gates that open only for the wealthiest
or largest market participants. Fink aims to throw open those gates and let us plead start feasting
on private investments that are currently blocked off. Toby, I am curious though. Who do you think
might benefit from that? I think I have an idea. Of course, this is not entirely an altruistic
letter. Over the past 14 months, BlackRock has been shelling out a lot of money to buy these
private asset classes, just shout out $12.5 billion to buy global infrastructure partners,
and it's in the process of completing another $12 billion acquisition of a private credit firm.
And then also, kind of the coup de grace of all this is that they are buying, they bought this
new data provider called Prequin that actually aims to make private valuations less opaque
for investors because it's very easy to come to a valuation of a public company, you know,
just shares outstanding times, share price. But private investments don't have.
shares outstanding. So it's much harder to, you know, assign a valuation to something like a port
or something like that rather than an actual S&P 500 company. So this is all part of this grand
vision to lower those walls. And yeah, maybe it is something that will benefit normal everyday
investors. But obviously, Frank, acknowledge the fact that, yes, this stands to benefit BlackRock
as well. Right. He said, you may assume that I'm talking my book. And he's like, yeah, you're,
You're kind of right. At the same time, the entire finance world is going in this direction.
So BlackRock is now going to compete against KKR, Apollo, these big private equity firms that are just buying up ports and real estate and infrastructure and data centers all around the world.
BlackRock just bought a couple dozen ports from around the world.
It's in the process of buying those two ports at the Panama Canal from a Hong Kong firm.
So this is the direction the finance world is going in.
And right now, you know, people like you and me, Toby and people listening, like have no access to buying private investments.
And, you know, even buying your home is really impossible.
So are you going to invest in, you know, a real estate asset class?
That is where the finance world is going.
And that's why Fink said, in the future, you won't, you know, the 60, 40 stock and bond portfolio that compromises most, you know, 401ks will instead shift to a 50, 30, 20 approach,
50 stocks, 30 bonds, 20% private assets.
And he projects that those funds with that scenario will outperform the typical 401k by 14.5% over a 40-year period.
Obviously, BlackRock is going to sell those funds.
So that is where he thinks this finance world is going.
And usually people listen to him.
And then one thing that people noticed from Fink's letter this year is that if you go back a few years,
one of BlackRock's big new initiatives was, you know, sustainable.
investing, ESG investing. And if you go down through the letter this year, all of that language
has been removed. He's completely changed his tune. It was actually a very apolitical letter in
general, like he didn't want to step on any toe. So that also speaks to just the general, I don't know,
maybe unease of an asset manager like BlackRock in the current administration. They don't want to
step on anyone's toes. And they also are just kind of walking back from some of those hot button social
and political issues that, you know,
is really leaning into as recently as 2020.
One, you know, so one political topic that he did mention very briefly was that
protectionism is back and he alluded to all of the uncertainty and the economy.
He said, I hear it from nearly every client, nearly every leader, nearly every person I
talk to.
They're more anxious about the economy than at any time in recent memory.
But he also did this assurance.
He said, we have lived through moments like this before and somehow in the long run,
we figure things out. So a final note of optimism from Larry Fink.
Now let's sprint to the finish with some final headlines. Up first, Newsmax's stock debuted
on the New York Stock Exchange yesterday and did the max in its name justice. The conservative media
outlet opened at $14 a share, a 40% jump from its $10 IPO price, then proceeded to skyrocket
as high as 735% during its first trading day, raising $75 million in the process.
Compared to other recent IPOs, Newsmax's performance stands out.
Another debutante, Corweave, had a disappointing first trading day, which saw the AI company fall about 10%.
The success of Newsmax didn't come from major funds suddenly getting jazz about the prospects of investing in cable news.
It was mainly retail investors pumping the stock in a GameStop-esque moment, more than anything related to the company itself.
Newsmax lost more than $55 million in the first six months of 2024 on revenue.
of roughly $80 million.
And now it's worth nearly $11 billion.
Insane, definitely shades of GameStop and AMC in 2021 with this IPO.
The question now is, can it sustain it?
And history shows probably not.
So there are two dozen stocks that ended their initial sessions after their IPO,
up more than 300%.
And they've been losers in the long run.
Shares of the average company in that basket are down 85% from their IPO.
price. So when the Reddit hordes kind of move on to the next shiny thing and they get bored with
Newsmax, they get bored with GameStop and they see something else. Then we'll see what happens to
Newsmax because you're right. It is loss making. But it has sort of held its own as a cable news channel.
It is firmly number four behind Fox News, MSNBC and CNN. And it turned its founder, Chris Ruddy,
into a billionaire. So he's got that going for him. Major bummer by next NFL season, we probably
won't know in advance whether Taylor Swift will attend a Chiefs game. That's because the FAA has
introduced a system that allows private jet owners to request their registration information,
such as name and address, be kept private. The change, which is part of the FAA reauthorization
Act of 2024, could deal a potentially fatal blow to the cottage industry of private jet trackers
who had kept us all informed about where Musk, Zuckerberg, Bezos Swift, and Kim Kardashian
were flying via publicly available data from the FAA. That received,
pushback from social media barons like
Zuck and Musk who blocked those flight
tracking accounts on their platforms and Swift
even sent a cease and desist letter
to the most prolific PJ tracker
Jack Sweeney citing safety concerns.
Toby, a big blow to those of us
who want to speculate on football coaching
moves. Wonder which high-ranking
official with direct access to the FAA
made this happen. Taylor Swift
I'm looking at you. No, I'm just kidding.
This new system came down
during the pipeline, during the Biden administration.
So it's been in the works for a while. This has been
something that, you know, the billionaire class has not been happy with for a long time. Now,
they say it's a big safety concern if you know exactly where you are. And you're right,
this cottage industry. I mean, Jack Swinney was this college kid who just suddenly became
the subject of ire of all the billionaires in the world because he ran all these private jet
tracking accounts. I feel like it's just a bygone era of social media. Now we're never going to get
those insights into, you know, those 20-minute private jet rides that some of these billionaires
we're taking from California cities to California cities.
And you're right, yeah, we're not going to be able to track, like, who's going to the
masters or it's bad for the sports industry.
You underestimate the people, Toby.
They're going to find a way.
Trust me.
Another Jack Sweeney will arrive.
Well, we already talked about Newsmax, so let's keep the Max stories rolling with one about
Warner Bros. Discovery's streaming service.
Some of the suits at Warner Bros. thought another rebrand for its max streaming service was in order.
Don't worry, the artist formerly known as HBO is still going to go back.
by Max, but it is ditching its bright blue color scheme to return to a more monochromatic black
and white palette that evokes the iconic HBO logo of old. The reasoning, back when Max's
first launched in 2023, the blue was added to make the service seem more approachable for
families and kids to reflect the addition of discovery content. But the latest decision appears to
swing the pendulum back the other way to bring back the adult feel to the brand, which was
originally known for its mature programming.
How many more revans, though,
Neil, can we take at this point?
Someone posted on X about this logo that it looks like every letter was designed by a different
person.
And once you look at this thing and you have that in the back of your mind,
you cannot think about anything else.
You see it everywhere.
I'm sure there are a lot of people who are feeling a little bit smug about this change
because they criticized HBO.
I don't even know what to call this thing anymore, HBO Max, Max,
for ditching the HBO.
branding and going with Max, and now that it's going a little slightly back towards the HBO feel.
And if you're keeping track at home, what all the colors of the streaming services brands are,
we have Amazon Prime Video Paramount Plus, Disney Plus in blue, Apple TV Plus, and now Max are this
monochrome branding, and obviously Netflix is red.
I think I'm taking a victory lap, by the way, because I was fully one of those people saying,
go back to the HBO branding.
but it does speak to maybe an elevated aesthetic
that Apple TV and HBO are both after.
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Thanks so much for starting your morning with us and have a wonderful Tuesday. Stay vigilant out there
today. Remember the date. For any questions, comments, or feedback, send an email to morningbrewdaily
at MorningBrew.com.
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