Morning Brew Daily - American AI Companies Fend Off Chinese Copy Cats & Gen Z Loves Love Island

Episode Date: July 8, 2026

#884: American AI companies are sounding the alarm on Chinese companies copying their models through “distillation.” Stellantis officially opens its doors to the sale of the tiny car priced at und...er $15,000. The US is seeing its middle-aged population slowly shrinking and which could harm the economy. Love Island USA has been a rare hit that has captured and retained Gen Z’s attention.  Get 10% off using MORNINGBREW10 at altrarunning.com/morningbrew  Get tickets for our trivia tournament! https://caveat.nyc/events/the-morning-brew-trivia-tournament-2026-07-30  Grab tickets to our Performance Revue show! https://www.morningbrew.com/events/brew-performance-revue-2026?utm_campaign=performance_revue_2026&utm_source=mbd Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.swap.fm/l/mbd-note⁠⁠⁠  Watch Morning Brew Daily Here:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:34 Good morning for Daily Show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, America is going through a middle-aged crisis. Then why Gen Z is obsessed with this reality show. It's Wednesday, July 8th. Let's ride. Good morning. The most livable city in the world has been crowned, and Hans Christian Anderson couldn't write a better story. It's Copenhagen, Denmark.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Copenhagen beat out Vienna, Austria for the second straight year in the Economist Intelligence Unit's annual Global Livability Index. The ranking examines 173 cities across the world along criteria like stability, aka crime, healthcare, culture, environment, education, and infrastructure. So essentially, how pleasant it is to live there. Copenhagen and Vienna are followed in the top 10 by Melbourne, Sydney, Zurich, Geneva, Osaka, Adelaide, Vancouver, and Tokyo. Toby, would you live in Copenhagen? Better hours for the pot at least.
Starting point is 00:01:37 Twist my arm. Fine, I'll move to Copenhagen. First thing I did when I saw this list is check out where New York fell. New York is improving, but not by much. It climbed three spots, who, to numbers 66, driven by the Knicks win. No, just kidding. The improvement was largely driven by better stability scores thanks to falling crime rates and lower perceived risks of terrorist attacks. So we still have a ways to go. of the highest ranked cities in the U.S., Honolulu takes the cake at number 25, although it slipped two places. Vancouver was the only North American city to make the global top 10 at number nine. Here's what I noticed. Of the top 10, only Switzerland advance passed a round of 16 in the World Cup. So you either have livable cities in your country or you're good at football. Choose your path, I guess. And now we're from our sponsor, Ultra running. Toby, where do you like to run? I love running on the beach. I go straight into the wall.
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Starting point is 00:03:09 AI companies are copying each other's homework and it's turning into a major geopolitical issue. Last month, Anthropic told Congress that the Chinese e-commerce giant Alibaba was copying its models via a process known as distillation. Then this week, Alibaba said it will ban its employees from using Anthropics AI tools the latest chapter in an escalating feud between the U.S. in China for AI supremacy. Alibaba Anthropic alleged created tens of thousands of unauthorized accounts
Starting point is 00:03:36 to access cloud, ask it a bunch of questions, then use the outputs to train its own models. This process of distillation is very much like how I made it through high school. One model, Neil GPT,
Starting point is 00:03:47 for instance, is the No-It-All Smarty Pants. The other AI model, Toby GPT, is the Freeloder. Instead of reading every textbook yourself, the Freeloder makes the Smarty Pants answer every practice exam and then studies only those answers. It's not a new technique, nor is it inherently illegal.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Distillation was invented by Google researchers back in the 2010s to create smaller, cheaper, and faster AI models. Elon Musk has admitted, generally, AI companies distill other AI companies during a testimony in court. But when competitors are distilling proprietary models like Claude or Chachibati, that's where things get murky. China in particular is apparently distilling at an enormous industrial scale to close the gap with the U.S. Anthropic claims Chinese companies generated over 16 million clod conversations using roughly 24,000 accounts to accelerate their own frontier models. Neil, this is the next phase of the AI race.
Starting point is 00:04:44 It's not just about who has the best models, but about who can cover their homework from prying eyes. The subtext here, which is crucially important, is that China is catching up. Experts say that China is trailing the United States in AI prowess. in AI development by just about six months now. Last month, we heard that this Chinese startup named ZAI release a model called GLM 5.2. That's about as powerful as the most powerful American models in terms of some cybersecurity tasks. It can go toe to toe with mythos. And remember, Anthropic held back mythos from public release because it was too powerful and too dangerous.
Starting point is 00:05:23 So China is catching up in these American AI companies that have poured so much. money into AI development are basically like a leader in the Tour de France and saying that these guys are just drifting off of me. I'm in the lead, but they're basically all, I'm taking away all the resistance from them and they are my competitor and I don't want them drifting off me. Drafting? Drafting. Drafting. Oh my God. I mean, you could drift too if you want. I'm thinking that. I'm mixing NASCAR and Torto France. And Mario Car right there. Anthropic has been trying to pull out all these stops to guard their, you know, closely developed models here In March, they dropped an update into Claude Code that checked whether a user's computer was set to Chinese time zones.
Starting point is 00:06:05 They also were checking whether a computer was using web domains associated with Chinese AI companies. This was a little bit controversial because they basically installed spying software to try and prevent Chinese companies from distilling their models. Eventually, it was discovered. They said it was simply an experiment that they since rolled back. But it just shows that they are willing to kind of compromise some of the privacy of their users. in order to try to prevent China from stealing their homework. The subtext here also is that distilling is not necessarily the only thing that makes models good.
Starting point is 00:06:37 A lot of skeptics are saying it's really not that big a deal. If you're trying to produce Frontier AI, you're not going to get there specifically through distillation alone. It does help polish existing models. It can make cheaper models more easily, but it's not going to get you to the very top of the leaderboard. So maybe people are over-indexing on trying to. and prevent distillation in the grand scheme of the AI race.
Starting point is 00:07:00 But maybe right now you don't need the most expensive or the most powerful model because we've had American CEOs like Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong and Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky come out and say, yeah, we're using Chinese AI models because they're a lot cheaper and we don't have infinite money to spend on AI. Just look at this price comparison. Deepseek, remember this is a Chinese company that kind of melted down markets 18 months ago. Their flagship AI model cost about 80. cents per million output tokens versus about $30 for open AI and $25 for Anthropic.
Starting point is 00:07:33 And it seems like Anthropic might even raise prices further. So when you look at that cost comparison, even if you're an American CEO and you're a little wary of using a Chinese model, I mean, the choice is pretty clear. And when it comes to open source free AI, China dominates the U.S. If there is any question, though, whether distillation is happening, which is what, you know, this entire kerfuffle was about Anthropic went to Congress and saying, look at, they're They are copying us. There is great evidence for that that comes from Chinese researchers.
Starting point is 00:08:02 A February 2025 paper from researchers at Pecking University found that Alibaba's Quinn, which is their model, frequently behaved as though it was Claude. During one testing sequence, Quinn identified itself as Claude roughly one third of the time. So if that isn't a red flag, that I don't know what is. I mean, we all want to be as smart as Claude. Moving on, all the Europeans coming to the U.S. for the World Cup have reminded us that, yes, everything is bigger here, the stores, the food portions, the cars. But those audacious Italians think they can get us hooked on something a lot smaller, a tiny electric vehicle called
Starting point is 00:08:37 the Topolino. Yesterday, Global Auto Giant Stalantis said that orders were now open in the U.S. for its Fiat Topolino electric vehicle, starting at just under $15,000. This truly is a car for ants. It measures roughly 100 inches long, which is slightly longer than a queen bed, about as long as a three-seater sofa and probably smaller than the TVs in some of your basements. And it does not go fast, maxing out at 19 miles per hour. However, Fiat is offering a conversion kit that makes the Topolino street legal for some roads, boosting its top speed to the stomach churning 25 miles per hour.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Like speed, variety is also limited. The EV arrives in just two models, one, a hardtop version with doors, another a soft top convertible type that replaces the doors with a rope. As for the color, you only have one option. Verde Vita Mint, which is a soft retro mint green. Since its European introduction in 2023, the Topolino has been turning heads much in the same way. You'd greet a cute dog in the street.
Starting point is 00:09:35 But you have to wonder whether it's barking up the wrong tree here in the U.S., where buyers have opted for larger trucks and SUVs and historically shunned anything that looks like it would get knocked out in a fight with those bigger cars. So I actually like this from Fiat. Their CEO, Olivier Francois, which by the way is a great name for Fiat CEO, said it's not trying to compete with SUVs. We don't do big cars. We do small, which is one great self-awareness.
Starting point is 00:09:58 But I do think there's skating where the puck is going to a certain extent because we have seen a shift towards much cheaper cars, smaller cars here. And the U.S. Slate Auto plans to roll at a $25,000 electric pickup truck later this year. Ford is trying to get their small electric pickup truck under $30,000 next year. So clearly there's been a concerted effort to meet consumers. where they're at, give them cheaper priced options. This is very cheap, but also extremely small. So I think that they know what their identity is, are leaning into it. And they're saying that clearly there's demand for this price point. Let's give it to American.
Starting point is 00:10:36 There's demand for this price point. Yeah, sure, everyone wants a car with $15,000. But do we want one that's 100 inches long? I mean, historically, no in the United States. So Stalantis, right, is the parent company of Fiat. It's also the parent company of Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, and RAM, well, Fiat represented way less than 1% of Stalances's total sales in the U.S. It's great in other countries. It's huge in Brazil. In Brazil, Fiat accounted for one in four cars. But in the U.S., I mean, we've had this smart car.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Fiat was not in the market for years. It just doesn't seem like Americans may be willing to buy this. But this is a very, we should say, this is a very specialized use case. The max speed on this is 25 miles per hour. going on any highways. This is for hospitality companies. This is for resorts. This is for gated communities. So if people are turning more toward golf carts, they're really competing with golf carts and not competing with actual cars. Yeah, car driver described it as more like the Birken bag of golf carts than any sort of useful commuter. So I don't even know if that's
Starting point is 00:11:38 a positive or a negative right there. One thing, again, though, that I do think that they are reading the regulatory environment correctly is that Donald Trump has been publicly praising Japanese K cars, which with a meeting with Stalantis' CEO, he called them really cute and questioned why similar vehicles weren't common in America. And Fiat said, we were planning to roll out the Topolino before Trump made those comments. But it does show that maybe there's going to be a softening of some regulations around these teeny tiny cars because K cars are extremely popular in different parts of the world. There's some talk that they will become street legal in the U.S. sometime soon. I think the Topolino is riding that similar way.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Fun fact about Topolino. It is the Italian name for Mickey Mouse. Well, it means little mouse. It's actually the Italian name for Mickey Mouse too. I guess it works both ways. It is. It's Little Mouse, so it's more like me. I promise you look it up. All right. Let's move on. The 45 to 64 age bracket is a load-bearing one in our society. They pay taxes, run businesses, manage governments, and care for both their children and the elderly. and yet America is running light on middle-aged people. Axios notes that the 45 to 64 population has declined from 84 million to 81.3 million
Starting point is 00:12:53 between April 2020 and July 2025, a 3.2% drop. During that same time period, the population of Americans over 65 grew by 16%. This is not an unexpected development. Baby boomers are a very large generation, and as they age into retirement, they are being replaced by the comparatively smaller Gen X population. But decline comes with economic and social consequences. You have fewer peak earners paying taxes, exacerbated by more retirees drawing on Social Security and Medicare.
Starting point is 00:13:26 There's also a smaller labor pool for crucial manager and executive roles. So even though America's population is still inching up, having proportionally fewer people in this exact stage of life creates outsize ripples. Neil, we need Gen X. Do we? They are considered the forgotten generation. They've never given us a president. They've basically only given us Pearl Jam. But no, they are very important, especially in the corporate world. They are the veteran leaders with institutional know-how. About half of Fortune 500 CEOs are in Gen X. So they occupy a really important position in the corporate landscape for training
Starting point is 00:14:04 younger workers and also as far as caregivers are concerned as well. They are often parents and they're also caring for their elderly parents as well. But as we saw kind of this statistic come out, there is another insight that shows that maybe this is not the worst thing for the economy because a new paper from the Nobel Prize winning economist Darren Asimoglu argues almost the opposite that you don't need, you know, a younger population. Their conclusion, lower birth rates have made economies more productive because labor scarcity forces businesses to innovate.
Starting point is 00:14:36 So basically what they are saying is that as populations get older, and as they become smaller, actually GDP per worker rises as the result of having less workers overall. It's basically constraints breed innovation. So when you have fewer workers, you're going to have to innovate more. And so their findings were an older and smaller population is actually okay, which is not necessarily what a lot of demographers have been saying. No, that is completely a narrative violation. We've heard that gutting of the older population, shrinking population means gutting of the tax base, fewer people to pay for Social Security and, the safety net for older folks, and it just kind of drains the resources of a country.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So these are some heavy hitter economists, Osamoglu, David Alter, like, these guys are from MIT, and people pay attention to what they say. So when they say that actually a shrinking population is not so bad, it actually raises the wealth of everybody who is still left, then, you know, you're going to pay attention. However, this is certainly not the last word on it. And there is certainly a real threat and risk to the fact that we're not having, America is going through a literal middle-aged crisis by having a bunch of people in middle-aged just disappear. It's not really disappear. It's age up into a higher-age bracket. All right, we're going to take a quick
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Starting point is 00:17:38 Yesterday, we talked about a TV strategy that is failing. Netflix hemorrhaging viewers after a show's first season. Today, let's talk about a TV show absolutely nailing it in 2026, and I do mean that literally. That show is Love Island, which drops a bunch of bathing suit wearing singles together on an isolated island villa and encourages them to couple and break up. Love Island USA, an adaptation of the UK series that started in 2015, has become appointment reality television viewing at a level we haven't seen. since the early days of American Idol. And even more surprising, it's hugely popular among Gen Z. The current season, the 8th, wraps up with the finale on Sunday and has set the internet
Starting point is 00:18:19 and its streaming service, Peacock Ablaze. In the first two weeks, the show reached 2.3 billion minutes viewed, which compares to scripted rivals like the bear or House of the Dragon, Bloomberg reported. Meanwhile, its retention is off the charts. People stick around to watch this show. Among viewers who started season 8 in its first two days, 80% have watched. watched at least 15 episodes. Oh yeah, that's another key piece about this show. There are tons of episodes. It's released six days a week, over six weeks in the summer, essentially in real time.
Starting point is 00:18:50 So if you're invested, you're all the way in. Toby, Love Island has cracked the code on how to capture the use attention. Part of it is that it just nailed its relationship with social media because the fear was that TikTok and short form video would cannibalize television watching. That's what all the streamers have been nervous about because there's only so much time in the day and there's only so many things your eyeballs can focus on. And yet, social media is just enhanced Love Island in every way. After every episode drops, you get reaction videos, you get memes, you get people building their careers off doing recap videos. Apparently Love Island's producers troll Reddit threads to figure out what people are talking about. So it's symbiotic relationship with social
Starting point is 00:19:30 media is great. It also makes the show feel bigger than it is because after the show drops a one hour, and a half hour episodes. They get another multiple hours of programming every night as user-generated content rolls out. And it makes it feel bigger than it actually is. The comparison that kept coming to my mind is that it is closer to sports fandom than actual passive television watching. Love Island behaves a lot like sports.
Starting point is 00:19:56 It's got a nightly schedule. It's got playoff style eliminations. It's live discussions like basically talks to us in the same way that Stephen A. Smith is ranting about whatever's going on. There's plenty of people on TikTok doing the same thing. People are betting on it. There's prediction markets. There's statistics. So it really has become these de facto sports fandom of Gen Z, which is why I think it's so successful. That might be one of your better takes. I like it. Also, I think it's important to note that Love Island has spawned sort of an in real life ecosystem as well with watch parties.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Because I mentioned this is appointment viewing. It's basically the opposite of what Netflix has done with its binge model. They say, here's eight episodes of this series. You can watch them when you can, but Love Island says, no, you have to be available and ready at 9 p.m. six days a week, which, first of all, this seems like a full-time job to watch this show. And based on conversations in our audience, there's a lot of people working for it. But if there's bars are having all these watch parties, there's a guy as a content creator who has rented out a bar in Bushwick, Brooklyn, where he sold more than 900 tickets across just two viewings, priced at around $5 to $10 a person.
Starting point is 00:21:09 You talk to bar owners, they say we're seeing the level of engagement and attendance that rivals the Knicks or big sporting events like the World Cup. This is, you know, whenever Love Island drops every single summer, we see huge flocks of people coming to our bars. And it's not just people. It's Gen Z who are well noted for not going to bars, not drinking. So this is something that brings them out. You know what this made me miss was American Idol?
Starting point is 00:21:31 I forgot just how massive it actually was. It peaked, its peak audiences were pulling in 35 million viewers. That is more than, you know, the World Cup games we've been talking about. That is, you know, NFL playoff games that we're talking about right there. So the fact that American Idol was so big, it just feels like in completely different time. But Love Island now, you don't get that exact same one-to-one viewer metrics. You get minutes watched, so it's a little bit more difficult to approximate. but that was an absolute behemoth of reality show.
Starting point is 00:22:00 So I'm glad that we're returning just a little bit back to our more collective appointment viewing type of show. Shout out Chris Daltry. All right, let's sprint to the finish with some final headlines. Oil prices are shooting higher this morning after President Trump in Turkey for the NATO summit said he thinks the ceasefire with Iran is over. Trump's comments follow a flare-up in violence between the two foes. Yesterday, the U.S. carried out airstrikes in Iran in retaliation for attacks on three
Starting point is 00:22:26 commercial ships transiting the Strait of Hormuz. The U.S. also reimposed sanctions on Iranian oil sales, saying that Iran had not followed its commitments from the Memorandum of Understanding that had been reached over three weeks ago in Switzerland. We'll see if this marks a return to a broader war or if diplomatic efforts can snuff out the escalation before it spirals. Up next, a tense scene unfolded in Midtown Manhattan yesterday after floors began to sag inside Pfizer's former HQ on 42nd Street. Passer-by is reported falling. bricks while construction workers inside who are working on converting the office building into residences, notice two steel support columns buckling on the 21st floor.
Starting point is 00:23:05 As a precaution, officials evacuated nearby offices and a school as engineers assess the risk. While city officials warned the structure remains a danger, they emphasize that because it's a steel frame building, the concern is that one floor would collapse, not that the entire building would come down. That was echoed by the developer behind the project. This incident is nothing more than a typical construction mishap, Nathan Berman, founder of Metroloft, said, this is a well-engineered, well-thought-through, and well-executed, with the exception of those two columns that could not take the load. By yesterday afternoon, Cruz got in to install temporary supports to stabilize the weekend floors, but for a moment there, Neil, no one was sure if a very
Starting point is 00:23:45 large building in the heart of Manhattan might be coming down. This is the biggest office to residential conversion in the country, and you know, this is a huge deal, huge trend that was sparked by COVID where demand for office space was down. What are we going to do with all the office buildings in Midtown and financial district and all across the country? Well, one of the solutions is to convert them to apartments. And this developer has been doing some big projects across New York City. And this is the biggest one converting the old Pfizer headquarters. But you were directly affected by this, right? You had an appointment and you got a text or an email from them saying it was canceled. And you turned to me and you were like, yeah, something's wrong with the building. And then all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:24:25 we realized, yeah, the building next to it might collapse. Yeah, I feel pretty grateful. It was a fitting for a golf driver. So it wasn't exactly the most important thing in the world. But I literally was like, what the heck could possibly be going on? And then you got a push notification on your phone. You're like, I think this is what's going on. This building next to it might be collapsing.
Starting point is 00:24:43 So it looks like everything is stabilized at this point. But yeah, for a moment there is looking dicey. And I'm going to have to make up that driver fitting. Up next, if someone you know is taking a suspiciously long time in the bathroom recently, you might want to check in on them. A parasite that causes, quote, explosive diarrhea is spreading across the country with outbreaks in more than a dozen states. The parasite is known as cyclospora, and when you eat food or drink water contaminated with it, it can cause your stomach to churn for over a month if untreated. Experts say it's not new or life-threatening,
Starting point is 00:25:14 but yeah, you don't want this. Problem is, far more people are getting it than usual, and health officials are trying to understand why. In the hardest hit state, Michigan, the number of documented cases spiked from 170 on July 1st to 572 by July 4th, and that 170 was already tripled the number the state finds each year. The CDC said there's currently no evidence of a single multi-state cyclospora outbreak linking all cases. Investigations to identify potential sources are ongoing. So past U.S. outbreaks have been linked to things like raspberries, basil, cilantro, salad mixes, snap peas, and fruit mixes, which unfortunately sounds like a really good salad to me. And so... If you eat salad. I was thinking like, that's fine with me. I'll just have a steak.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Oh my gosh. I'm not going to get it. I just had so many summer salads over the 4th of July break. I was like, that sounds delicious, actually. So that's a bummer. But it does sound like this is a seasonal thing. Most U.S. cases occur between May and August. So basically survive the summer. Fall will come and hopefully everybody's stomachs will calm down. But wash your produce. Wash your produce. Finally, every Wednesday, we end the day with suggestion box where Toby I share a recommendation to help you get over the hump of the week. I'm feeling generous. Toby, why don't you go first? My rec is a Chrome extension called Knock Off Shopping.
Starting point is 00:26:34 So we know that the online shopping experience has been insidified. So many ads, so many knockoff brands that just create clutter when you're trying to buy something. Well, this guy, Josh Pigford on X, fixed it. He created a Chrome extension that lets you filter out the cheap knockoff brands on Amazon. So when you're searching for drill bits, for instance, you'll get DeWalt but not trademark squatting pseudo brands. It is free.
Starting point is 00:26:58 It is calming and it's great if you want Amazon to only surface legit brands. Shout out Josh Pigford. And my recommendation, next time you're near a computer, I want you to open up your browser and type in the URL readingmaps.com. That's readingmaps.com. It's maybe not as useful as the Chrome extension that you just introduced. But basically, this is a site that overlays famous journeys from books, and movies, both real and fictional, onto a map, so you can see where the characters actually
Starting point is 00:27:28 went. And there are hundreds of options to choose from, like Moby Dick, Life of Pie, the Odyssey, the Da Vinci Code, Hatchet, remember Hatchet, Harry Potter, Forrest Gump, the Born Supremacy, Indiana Jones, you got the idea. It's just super cool to see geographically where these stories take place. And there's lots of good info on the site itself. It's very well laid out. I love this site. It's so fun. It's probably going to be a tribute. You introduce it to me, so it's a stolen valor a little bit. It's probably going to be a trivia category coming in the near future because just watching the points to points and trying to approximate, all right, I think this is in the north. This is probably Frankenstein right here.
Starting point is 00:28:04 It is so fun and it does give you little tidbits about each journey. It made me, again, everything goes back to the Odyssey for me, but the dude was all over the place. I mean, come on. That's the point of the story. I know, but when you see it overlaid and you see his journey, he really was being blowing off course a lot. So lock in Odysseus. Very fun. Great recommendation, reading maps.com.
Starting point is 00:28:27 That is all the time we have. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us and have a wonderful Wednesday. To share your thoughts on the episode or anything else, send an email to Morning Brew Daily at morningbrew.com or DM us on Instagram at MB Daily Show. Let's roll the credits. Emily Milliron is our supervising producer.
Starting point is 00:28:43 Raymond Lute is our senior producer. Our producer is Olivia Graham, and our associate producer is Olivia Lake. Technical direction by Nina Miller. Hair and makeup. Yep, got a text. Devin Emery is our president and our show is a production of Morning Brew. Great show, Daniel. Let's run it back tomorrow.
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