Morning Brew Daily - Apple Tries to Impress at WWDC 2025 & College Athletes Get Paid

Episode Date: June 9, 2025

Episode 600: Neal and Toby preview Apple’s annual developer conference where it’ll try to show up its AI products and impress Wall Street. Then, JPMorgan issues a tough warning to first-year analy...sts who take on any future roles elsewhere. Also, a historic NCAA settlement that allows colleges to pay their athletes will effectively end amateurism, but not every athlete is celebrating. Meanwhile, the iconic Goodyear blimp, see flying over any major sporting event, turns 100. Finally, what’s coming up in the week ahead.  00:00 - Costco cards aren’t REAL IDs 3:00 - Apple tries to impress 7:30 - JPMorgan has warning for young grads 11:30 - Colleges athletes getting paid 17:00 - Goodyear blimp turns 100 20:30 - Week Ahead Check out domainmoney.com/mbdaily and start building your financial plan today  We are current clients of Domain Money Advisors, LLC (Domain). Through Domain's sponsorship of Morning Brew Daily, we receive compensation that included a free plan and thus have an incentive to promote Domain Money. Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.swap.fm/l/mbd-note Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Good morning, Brew Daily show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, can Apple get its mojo back? Don't ask Siri. She doesn't know anything. Then college athletes feel free to add guac to your Chipotle Bowl because schools will soon be able to pay you directly.
Starting point is 00:00:43 It's Monday, June 9th. Let's ride. There are almost infinite reasons why you could be delayed at airport security, but it's time to add a new one to the list. The person in front of you is trying to check in using their Costco membership card. Last week, TSA had to issue a PSA on social media, reminding travelers
Starting point is 00:01:05 that Costco cards are not a substitute for the real IDs you now need to get on a flight. We love hot dogs and rotissory chickens as much as the next person TSA wrote, but please stop telling people their Costco card counts as a real ID because it absolutely does not.
Starting point is 00:01:21 This fake travel hack pops up about every year or so and was most recently spread by the food site Chowhound, which published an article called How You Costco card could save you at the airport. Oh, it can save you lots, but not at the airport. Okay, I see the issue here. It's got your face on it. It's got a gold star on it. So if it walks like a real ID and it talks like a real ID, is it not a real ID? Still, I feel like I have a simple solution to this issue. Let Costco run airport security. Free samples in line, helpful workers, $1.50
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Starting point is 00:03:33 with an opportunity to announce impressive AI upgrades that will help narrow a widening gap with its competitors. But it's not going to do that. Apple is expected to steer clear of whiz-bang AI features and focus instead on improvements to legacy operating systems, an embarrassing acknowledgement that when it comes to AI, the company is just not ready for the big leagues yet. It could be a bump in the road or signify something much worse, Apple missing out on a once-in-a-generation technological revolution. In the past, Apple has used its developers conference to hype its biggest announcements and upgrades. In 2023, it revealed its virtual reality headset, the Vision Pro.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Last year, it debuted Apple Intelligence, a suite of AI features that were supposed to fend off upstarts like OpenAI and spur a new cycle of people trading in their older iPhones for a new one with AI capabilities. That push has so far been a failure. Most of the Apple intelligence features added to iPhones have been underwhelming at best, like notification summaries, and the AI showpiece, an upgraded series that would work just as well as voice assistance from chat, GBT, and Google is still nowhere to be seen. So Toby, Tim Cook is in the hot sea after promises made at last year's WWDC
Starting point is 00:04:45 have yet to pan out. Odds are Apple will strike a more cautious tone at the keynote this afternoon. Yeah, a lot of commentators and watchers of the industry, say that we almost want to see an apology out of Apple because what they promised with Apple intelligence last time around just didn't come to fruition at all. A lot of people were calling it pure vaporware, which is just tech that looks like it's something, but nothing is really there if you dig down to what you're actually dealing with. And so there is probably not going to happen. Like Apple's not going to come out and say, hey, we're so sorry for these missteps. That occurred.
Starting point is 00:05:17 They're probably going to just going to smile and project confidence like they always do. But yeah, certainly a moment in Apple's like WWDC history where it doesn't feel like they have the next big thing to announce. The next big thing to announce for them is just rebranding its iOS and rebranding how it's numbering something. So it's not a big paradigm shifting thing. So they're at this crossroads right now and how they project confidence going forward is going to be very interesting to watch because they don't exactly have an ace in the hole at this moment. No, it was supposed to be Siri, this upgraded Siri, that would work just as well. as chat cheap t you know for the in series history for a time it was the only voice assistant around so we thought okay Siri exists it's not that good but hey that's what voice assistants are they're just
Starting point is 00:06:02 not that good and then chat gbt has come along with its chat feature but also its voice assistant and every single other AI company big tech company has rolled out something like this meanwhile Siri has been just in the development room for so long i know you know we're not expecting apple to issue apology at this, WWDC, because that is not something that they would do. But Tim Cook has come out in the past few months saying that we are not releasing the new Siri because the tech did not meet our high quality bar and it was taking a bit longer than we thought they had these ads that they had to pull from TV starring the last of us is Bella Ramsey. A huge embarrassment. So Apple really at a crossroads right now, it's very interesting to see that all these other
Starting point is 00:06:44 tech companies have these big developers conference. We just came off Google's where they're announcing huge AI features that are truly wowing people and wowing developers. Apple just doesn't have that right now. It does seem like the biggest AI-related announcement that we are going to get is that they're opening up their foundation models, their large language models for the first time that power Apple intelligence. That will let outside creators, app creators, build AI features on that same tech that has powered the pretty scant writing tools, Gen Moji, custom emojis, it's summarization technology. So Apple's basically saying, I mean, this is what developer conferences are. They're like, hey, here's the sandbox. Go play in it. Go create something new. And that is what has powered Apple for,
Starting point is 00:07:26 you know, decades now. Let's see if it's even a sandbox, though, that developers want to plan because Apple's frontier models are not necessarily, you know, the most sexy thing in the industry right now. So they do want to try to attract people and say, maybe you can build something better than what we've rolled out so far and hopefully get us back in this AI. game that we're lagging behind in right now. JP Morgan is behaving a little bit like your jealous X and that they really don't want you talking to anyone else other than them. The largest bank in the world recently told incoming grads that they'd be fired if they
Starting point is 00:08:00 accepted a future job offer within their first 18 months at the bank. The rule comes as the bank is trying to crack down on associates jumping ship over to big, bad private equity firms looking to plunder their junior talent. The bank didn't call out any industry. by name, but the implication is that they want to crack down on PE companies on cycle recruitment periods where firms handout offer letters two years in advance of expected start dates, poaching new hires after they've grabbed some investment banking experience. Wall Street obviously doesn't like this, so J.P. Morgan warned analysts that they could be fired for skipping summer job training
Starting point is 00:08:36 after some junior bankers have snuck out of onboarding sessions to interview for lucrative private equity roles. Neil J.P. Morgan's CEO, Jamie Diamond, has publicly criticize the PE recruitment process, labeling it as unethical to work as an analyst for a bank while knowing you're heading to PE soon after. But this hardline stance puts the bank at odds with some of its most valuable clients as well. Jamie Diamond just doesn't seem to care about that. For years, he's been going after this style of recruiting, which people who are outside the industry must seem a little wild, the fact that these people are getting offers two years ahead of time for while they're working at companies that they don't even work for.
Starting point is 00:09:18 And Jamie Diamond last year, he told a bunch of young undergraduates at Georgetown. I know a lot of you work at JPMorgan. You take a job at a private equity shop before you even start with us. I think it's wrong to put you in that position. You have to kind of decide the next career move before you have a chance to even decide what the company is like. And particularly for J.P. Morgan or any bank that's hiring someone who already has an offer letter. It's kind of like you are a farm team for arrival. So maybe there's this hot new prospect,
Starting point is 00:09:47 a soccer prospect, Toby Howell, and I'm Liverpool, and I basically have to train this guy up. And then two years later, he's going to Manchester United. You can understand why Jamie Diamond says, I don't love this at all. Yeah. And part of the issue is that these, the Manchester United in this metaphor are the PE buyout shops that can offer these newly minted bankers much bigger compensation packages than what they're getting. And even America, Eric, his biggest banks can't compete with what these offered letters are. Associates at PE firms can make up to $300,000 a year with bonuses that, you know, are almost around the same exact thing. Compare that with what Glassdoor filings show for J.P. Morgan figures put first-range associate banker salaries at around $200,000 to $289,000.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Again, it's still a lot of money, but PE firms are coming in and dangling just a larger carrot for these young college grads. You can't really fault them for saying, okay, this is my path. I do my time in investment banking, and then I go on to PE. It's even happening at the very highest levels as well. Goldman Sachs just had to roll out the red carpet for their chief operating officer, John Waldron. They gave him an $80 million pay package this year because Apollo, Mark Rowan's Apollo Global Management, came in and tried to poach him as well. They are a big PE firm.
Starting point is 00:11:06 So you're seeing it all the way from Associates all the way up to the VAL. very top level brass as well. And this is, you know, a free country, a free market that we have. So J.P. Morgan is going to have to change their tactics to retain these hot prospects. So what they've done in response to PE shops poaching their young bankers is they are, they are shortening the promotion cycle for a junior banker to be promoted to associate from three years to two and a half years. So they are taking steps in addition to cracking down. They're doing the carrot and a stick in order to keep their junior bankers at JPMorgan and not going elsewhere. Okay, it's time to reveal our winners of the weekend, the segment where Toby and I pick two things,
Starting point is 00:11:45 whose Instagram stories made you so jealous. I won the pre-show rock skipping contest, so I get to go first. And my winner is college athletes, because you are about to get paid directly by schools for the very first time. On Friday, a judge approved a settlement that will allow universities to pay athletes, which nukes once and for all the NCAA's long. longstanding amateurism model and marks the biggest change for college sports in over 100 years. Under the new system, athletic departments will be able to hand out about $20.5 million a year in name, image, and likeness revenue to athletes over the 2025-2020 season.
Starting point is 00:12:22 They'll also pay $2.8 billion in damages to former D1 athletes who weren't able to sign NIL deals when they were in school going back to 2016. Now, this has been a long time coming. Over the past two decades, college athletes, has grown into a booming industry with a billion-dollar TV deals and coaches who are the highest paid public employees in their state. But the athletes who create the product said, hey, what about us? We're the only ones not getting rich here and launched a swarm of lawsuits challenging the NCAA's cherished amateurism model. They've made some progress in recent years, like when athletes were allowed to sign NIL endorsement deals with third parties, but never
Starting point is 00:12:59 before were they in line to receive a direct revenue share with colleges. Toby, this might be the end of the NCAA as we know it. Yeah, it totally changes things around. Scholarships are now being replaced by this salary cap model where you have a certain amount of money to dole out two players on your roster. The majority of this money is obviously going to go to those revenue-genering sports like football, like men's basketball. So it's going to be interesting to see how the so-called maybe Olympic sports at college and universities get supported because, you know, Olympic sports that don't generate revenue, but do kind of power the pool of Team USA when it comes to the actual Olympics, are they going to have enough money left over after all the money's been
Starting point is 00:13:45 doled out to the other revenue generating sports? Also, there's some Title IX question marks. You know, Title IX states that you have to provide equal opportunities to male and female athletes. How is this new salary cap going to fall under that legislation as well? And then there's also this third party clearinghouse thing where you're going to, to have to have these new rules have been designed to limit the free reign that boosters and collectives have had over the NIL era so far. There has to be a valid business purpose to
Starting point is 00:14:16 every NIL deal that's handed out to an athlete now. So even though that this was a landmark settlement, and now if you are a college athlete, you're in line to be paid, there are a lot of other question marks that have arisen as well. And it seems like with every change that we've had over the past few years with every settlement. The change to the college athletics landscape is that the biggest programs will get bigger and the mid majors and the smaller colleges will fall by the wayside so that gap is only going to get bigger. And so it is with this particular settlement as well. Because if you have $20.5 million to dole out, that is a lot of money. It's not something that every college university can come up with. Can Ohio State and
Starting point is 00:15:00 and Alabama, probably because they are extremely rich. And so they will have the resources to marshal $20.5 million to hand out and create these juggernaut rosters. Meanwhile, other colleges that aren't as rich will have to scramble to raise the money to match the $20.5 million that Alabama and Ohio State can marshal. They could also, you know, NIL is not going away. So there could be third parties that come in and say, hey, you're getting a lot of money from the school, but I'll throw some sugar on top in order to get you to come.
Starting point is 00:15:28 So the gap between the have and the have-nots will only increase from this. Now let's take a quick break before we get to my winner of the weekend. Study and play. Come together on a Windows 11 PC. And for a limited time, college students get the best of both worlds. Get the Unreal College deal, everything you need, to study and play with select Windows 11 PCs. Eligible students get a year of Microsoft 365 premium, and a year of Xbox GamePass Ultimate with a custom color Xbox Wireless controller. Learn more at
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Starting point is 00:16:33 Exclusion supplies, see Home Depot.com slash price match for details. My winner of the weekend is the iconic good year blimp, which recently celebrated its 100th year anniversary of lazily patrolling the skies. The ubiquitous airships created by the tire company have been a feature at sporting events across the country for decades now. Their ability to provide aerial coverage of Pebble Beach's iconic fairways or so the sheer scale of a college football stadium, make them invaluable parts of TV broadcasts. The blimps themselves haven't seen their technology change all that much over the decades.
Starting point is 00:17:08 They're still huge, slightly longer than a Boeing 747, and still putter around at speeds rarely exceeding 70 miles per hour. The Akron-based company originally produced more than 150 blimps for the U.S. Navy, only later using one to cover sports starting at the 1955 Rose Bowl. In the decades since, their ability to fly and hover nearly a thousand. feet off the ground while remaining quieter than a car have made them indispensable. Broadcasters are increasingly looping in more drones to their coverage, but drones can't fly as high or as long as good old blimps, so airships aren't going away anytime soon.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Neil, pretty remarkable how a technology pioneered with the flight over Ohio back in 1925 is still flying around today and still one of the best ways to document a spectacle from above. It is. Their tie-ins with TV networks have only increased and they do this very interesting transaction model with these TV networks where they go to ABC or CBS or ESPN or any company that's putting on a sporting event and they say, hey, we're not, we're not going to actually exchange any money. I will give you a blimp and I will give you amazing overhead shots, which are stunning. And in exchange, you will mention Goodyear 10 seconds for every hour. And the way they do that calculation is say, okay, well, I could buy a 30 second hour. spot over this three-hour broadcast, or I could get 10 seconds every hour for three hours,
Starting point is 00:18:34 and that's about the same, and I'll send the good year blimp there. So it's a very interesting model that they've worked out ever since the 1955 Rose Bowl. So a very, have you seen one of these in real life? Not in person, I'm realizing. They are majestic. They are just hovering over there. They take up so much of the sky. They're almost a football field long.
Starting point is 00:18:54 They are massive. It is just a really cool sight to see in real life. Yeah, people love these blimps too. I mean, it has its own Instagram account with over 160,000 followers. There are more astronauts in the world than there are people trained to fly the Goodyear blimps. So it is this weirdly elite club of pilots who know how to pilot these things around. They aren't quick. That's the funniest part about all of these.
Starting point is 00:19:17 70 miles an hour sounds like a lot, but in air speed terms, that is not fast. They usually don't fly more than 300 miles a day. So they do have to have this calculus in the back of their mind saying, where do we bring our blimps? Because they have some obligations, but other times they just go where the spectacle is. And so maybe it's a college game day, maybe it's a golf tournament or something like that.
Starting point is 00:19:36 But it is funny that they just have to putter around. They have these crews that work two at a time. They always have to have someone on call in case wind picks up because there's not exactly a great autopilot system. So just a fascinating piece of technology, fascinating airship in general that has just remained popular for decades. Yeah, and just a key part of American marketing history. The Goodyear blimp was the first to actually fly at night and project a neon sign.
Starting point is 00:20:03 This was way back in 1930. So when you're in Times Square or anywhere with a lot of neon signs at night, you can thank Good Year. Okay, it's Monday. So here is what you need to know about the week ahead. Tensions will remain high in downtown Los Angeles, where widespread anti-deportation protests have been ongoing for three days. Things escalated yesterday when Trump made the highlight. unusual decision of deploying
Starting point is 00:20:26 National Guard troops to the demonstrations. The first time since 1965, a president had activated a State's National Guard for a domestic operation without a governor's request, sparking pushback from state leaders. The protests, which at times involved setting self-driving Waymo's
Starting point is 00:20:42 on fire, do seem to be confined to the downtown area, and the rest of the sprawling city was carrying on its business as usual, but a lot of eyes are on L.A. as the week begins. And then on Wall Street, all eyes are on Wednesday's monthly inflation report, which is important for a few reasons. It'll show whether prices have ticked up due to the tariffs. And number two, it's the last
Starting point is 00:21:04 big piece of economic data before the Fed makes its interest rate decision next week. The inflation report will be a big test for a stock market that is summer viving right now. The major indexes have climbed back to their highest levels since February, and the S&P 500 is hovering just 2% from its record high. Although I know this is the week ahead. Let's flashback to Friday for a second where the jobs numbers came in showed a resilient but slowing jobs market. US added 139,000 new jobs, unemployment rate held steady about 4.2%. So the market did have this pretty strong end of the week because it was essentially happy that the jobs report didn't come in worse than it did. So each piece of hard data comes in, including the inflation report,
Starting point is 00:21:48 will get a better sense of where the economy stands. And yet another test for a pretty high-flying stock market. And of course, we're also watching trade talks. U.S. and China are meeting in London today to see if they can produce a breakthrough. The talks will focus not just on tariffs, but on those non-tariff barriers. Remember last week we were talking about how automakers were warning that China was withholding rare earths, which could shutter auto production kind of all around the world if China doesn't grant those export licenses. So they're meeting in London today. That will also be the talk of Wall Street to see what happens over there. In sports, the Pacers and Thunder head to Indianapolis for game three of the NBA finals on Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:22:29 with the series tied one-to-one. In the NHL, the Panthers and Oilers are also locked up at one game apiece ahead of game three in Florida tonight. And in golf, the U.S. Open begins on Thursday, which is one of the most anticipated in years. The world's best golfers will take on Oakmont Country Club outside of Pittsburgh, considered one of the most difficult courses in the world. Scotty Schaeffler will be the overwhelming favorite. Again, I'm sorry for looking back, even though this is week ahead, but we have to mention the French Open finals. So shout out Coco, shout out Carlos for putting on one heck of his show.
Starting point is 00:23:04 We really went in men's tennis from the Big Three straight to the Big Two pretty seamlessly. That was one of the greatest sporting events I've ever witnessed. Also, looking ahead, I do just want to get my U.S. Open picks on the books now. Other than Sky Schaeffler, other than Bryson, who one of those two will probably win, I do like Shane Lowry, Ben Griffin, or Harris English as sneaky sleeper picks. And most of all, the start of the show will be the chorus. Seems so hard. So much hype for being so, so, so, so hard.
Starting point is 00:23:30 A new documentary on Netflix out Wednesday will offer a behind the scenes look at the Ocean Gate submersible disaster from 2023 when an experimental sub-exploring the wreck of the Titanic exploded, killing all five people aboard. The doc will look at all the warning signs given to the company's CEO that this vehicle was just not safe for anyone. Yeah, some details have already emerged ahead of the documentary dropping, including the chief submersible pilot getting fired for trying to warn the company's CEO about the potential dangers of doing this experimental carbon fiber hole. So definitely going to be a salacious documentary that a lot of people from, yeah, the business world and everywhere else
Starting point is 00:24:09 will be tuning in. And then finally, at the tail end of the week, we've got a Friday the 13th coming up, spooky, the live action remake of How to Train Your Dragon coming to theaters and Father's Day on Sunday. How to Train Your Dragon, by the way, top five movie soundtrack of all time. And I say that with my full chest right there. Seriously, listen to this movie soundtrack because it is amazing. Hopefully they just bring that back to the live action remake and then everything else falls into place. All right. That is all the time we have. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us. Have a wonderful start to the week. If you have any thoughts on today's episode, send an email with questions, comments, or feedback to Morning Brew Daily at Morningbrew.com.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Let's roll the credits. Emily Milliron is our executive producer. Raymond Lute is our producer. Our associate producers are Olivia Graham and Olivia Lake. Hair and makeup is taking some days off after working so many weddings this weekend. Devin Emery is our president and our show is a production of Morning Brew. Great show today, Neil. Let's run it back tomorrow.
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