Morning Brew Daily - Apple Wants to be Your Bank, $776M for Angry Birds?!, Hamburglar Returns

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

Episode 41: Neal and Toby discuss Apples brand new savings account and delve into the tech giants partnership with Goldman Sachs. Speaking of Goldman Sachs, we delve into the earnings reports of them ...and Bank of America from Tuesday morning. Plus, writers in Hollywood are preparing to strike and the maker of Angry Birds is over $770 million richer. Toby breaks down the latest TikTok trend and the Hamburglar has made his return. Finally - happy Tax Day! The guys share some things you may not know about this year's tax trends. Learn more about our sponsor, Fidelity: https://fidelity.com/stocksbytheslice Listen Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:27 Good morning brew daily show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. On today's program, so official program, we're going to talk about Apple joining the battle for your cash with a high-yield savings account. And on tax day, we'll talk facts that you need to know about taxes and things you don't need to know at all, but they're fun to drop in conversation. Then we'll talk about a potential Hollywood Rider Strike that could kill your favorite late-night talk show. Not James Corden, protect him. And take a trip down memory lane with some news about an OG iPhone app, Angry Birds.
Starting point is 00:01:00 It's Tuesday, April 18th. Let's ride. Neil, I was probably in the 1% yesterday. I was watching the Boston Marathon on my computer all day long. I love Boston Marathon Day. I know. You were just talking about it nonstop, and I was just nodding my head along. I know. I love all the cast of characters.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Although Kip Chogi, who broke the two-hour marathon, who is the world record holder, one of the best athletes of all time lost, just didn't have it yesterday. Damn. It was kind of sad. So you're definitely running next year. Were you extra motivated or less motivated by watching? I don't know how you can be less motivated. It's so fun.
Starting point is 00:01:49 It's so fun to watch. So, yeah, hopefully I'm out there next year. All right, and you got a triathlon coming up. We'll pull them for you. We'll talk about that in two weeks' time. All right. Let's start with Apple. So I feel like yesterday we successfully read the tea leaves because remember how we were talking
Starting point is 00:02:03 about how Charles Schwab was losing depositors who were pulling their money and putting it in higher yield savings account? Well, literally just after we recorded that, the pod, another company entered the ring for your savings, and it's not one that many expected, and that is Apple. So in partnership with Goldman Sachs, Apple launched a savings account that has a meaty 4.15% annual yield. The average savings account rate in the country is 0.37%. So this could be attractive for a number of reasons, including because everyone has an iPhone in their pocket. Yeah, I mean, Apple calls it like the all-out war to be at the top of your wallet.
Starting point is 00:02:40 So they already have the Apple card, which is issued by Goldman Sachs. Now they have this savings account that I'm not going to lie after I heard the news. I opened one because I'm like 4.1%, 4.2%. It's so good. Right. And it's pretty easy to access. I mean, but you didn't have. So here's the scope of what you need. You can go into your wallet app on your iPhone. That's where you can find it. And then you can carry a balance of up to $250,000, all of which is insured by the FDIC. And that's because they park it in Goldman.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Apple is just kind of the conduit. Goldman's actually doing a lot of the heavy work on the back end as an actual bank. You do need to have Apple's credit card, which is called Apple Card. So you got that? I did all that. I did all that last night as I was going to sleep. It's very, very easy. I mean, it's the Apple design philosophy.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Like it was beautiful, easy to do. I used it to pay for my subway this morning. So I already broke in the Apple card. But yeah. And we were also talking about the relationship between Goldman and Apple. And we were like, what is Goldman really getting out of this? And it turns out not a whole lot because so far Goldman Sachs has lost over a billion dollars through its partnership with Apple. And the whole reason behind it was they wanted to get into the consumer space, which they actually reported earnings this morning.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And we learned another tidbit about their consumer business that Marcus, their consumer banking division, lost a lot of money again. kind of drag down their earnings. So it's all tied together right now. We should talk about the big picture here. And that's because Apple is by far from the only online financial institution. I can't believe I just called Apple financial institution. That's another story that are offering higher yield savings accounts or money market accounts or CDs as the Fed has raised interest rates. So I wrote, I said that stat at the top that the savings, the average on a savings account was 0.37%. But there are a lot of options where you can get at least 4% out there.
Starting point is 00:04:42 There's Goldman's Marcus, where we're just talking about, is offering 3.9%. You have Ally Bank, which is an online bank, offering 4%. UFB Direct, 5.02%. And then something called CFG Community Bank is up there also at 5.02%. Wow. So, yeah, if you go to, if you just Google, you know, savings accounts, money market accounts, they're all, you know, up there in the 5% range as the Fed has raised interest rates. So while the Fed's interest rates have definitely rocked your stock portfolio, it's actually made it a more attractive time to be a saver.
Starting point is 00:05:14 Yeah, it's a good time to shop around for to find the best interest rates. Like, because where you park your money right now can have some lasting effects. And eventually, if rates do go down, we might see these numbers start to fall. But at least for right now, go get those savings. But this is why Apple sees an opening here, because when I just read all of those things, did you, you know, did you recognize any? Yeah. CFG Community Bank, UFB Director,
Starting point is 00:05:40 all these online-only banks that can offer this high interest rate because they don't have a brick and mortar location, not a lot of overhead. But Apple is kind of leaning on the fact that it's a super trustworthy brand. You've bought products from it for over a decade.
Starting point is 00:05:53 So you, you know, Toby, you never had a financial product with Apple before, and you were just like, well, I know Apple. And I don't know, you know, ally bank or whatever. I'm actually excited, too, because just the U.X is so exciting, where the card turns different color based off what purchase you last made. So my card's blue right now because I just purchased, I just used it on the subway.
Starting point is 00:06:16 So I just love everything, Apple. Just real quick, before we move on, Bank of America also reported earnings, another big bank. They were kind of looking at to see how's the health of the banking sector. Pretty good for them, honestly. The big thing that we're looking at is deposits because that's been the story of the last few earnings. So Charles Schwab deposits were down 30% year every year. For Bank of America, they were down just 1% from the previous quarter. So it's looking good.
Starting point is 00:06:46 As we expected, they received an inflow of deposits during the Silicon Valley Bank kind of debacle. So big banks, doing just fine. Yeah. Okay, that's Apple. That's banking. But now let's go to Hollywood. So, Neil, usually I have a pretty long and creative and loquacious intro to our stories, but today I'm keeping it succinct in solidarity with the writer's strike that is on the verge of potentially
Starting point is 00:07:13 happening out in Hollywood, even though that wasn't that succinct. So the Riders Guild of America has a three-year contract with the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television producers. A lot of words there. That's the trade association that represents the Hollywood studios, including some of the streamers, Disney and Netflix. So that contract is set to expire on May 1st, and the Riders Guilds want some changes. The bulk of the negotiations surround streaming with the riders accusing studios of basically
Starting point is 00:07:42 using streaming as an excuse to consistently underpay them. So one of their main gripes is that streaming seasons are actually a lot shorter than traditional TV seasons. So they last around six to eight episodes, which is back in the day. Average television length was like 20 to 20 more episodes. So they're just not getting paid for as much. And then plus, there's no royalties from episode reruns. So when you see friends on constantly late night, people are getting paid for that.
Starting point is 00:08:09 With streaming, kind of wipes that out. So those are some of the gripes that the Writers Guild has right now. Yeah. I mean, this has happened before. They voted in 2017. Two, they authorized a strike. I think there was 97% of them voted in favor. That was averted at the last minute, so we didn't have the strike.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But I don't know if you remember 2007. Were you of a TV watching age then? I don't remember it, but tell us what happened. I mean, yeah, so they went on strike for a hundred days span. And I do kind of remember this. It was kind of burned into my memory. SNL went off air. So we didn't have a lonely island or whatever the name was.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Then late night hosts like Jay Leno, Conan, and David Letterman ended up paying out of pocket some, the non-striking workers to keep working. And then we also had shows like Gossip Girl Heroes, remember Heroes. Remember heroes? Yes. Breaking Bad, 30 Rock. They all had to truncate their seasons because of this. So we've been here before.
Starting point is 00:09:05 And what would happen this time is that late night shows, again, would bear the brunt of being, you know, just going off air because we know we kind of work in the similar industry where you have to write the next day's thing. But in terms of like TV scripts and film scripts, what they've been doing is stockpiling because they know this might happen. So they're just like scrambling to get scripts ready so they can produce shows. and not have any sort of stoppage in programming. Yeah, it's so interesting that, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:34 the studios are sitting on a stockpilot script so they can keep operations. Maybe one of my pilots, too. Right, yeah, just get back to them, Neil. And then also, just to give a sense of how widespread this strike is, they voted on, if they wanted a strike or not, 98% voted for guests. Yeah, a record high.
Starting point is 00:09:53 And it actually is crazy. They are being extremely underpaid right now. So pay is actually declined. If you ingest for inflation, the median weekly writer slash producer pay has declined 23% over the last decade. So they're not really, they are very valid in their complaints because they're just clearly not getting compensated as they feel like they should be. So we have a May 1st deadline for whether they're going to strike or not. And actually, they said that the overwhelming majority, the fact that 98% of writers are authorized a strike means that a strike, is maybe less likely because they have so much bargaining power right now because they're all in
Starting point is 00:10:32 solidarity. So the studios might have to come to the table and sort of give up some things that they may not want to because of just how united the writers are altogether. I kind of hope we get a strike so then it would lead to some wacky ending to some shows where you're just like, oh, that clearly was not written into the show. Yeah, maybe that happened to Game of Thrones and we just don't know. Exactly. Okay, Neil, let's go to the gaming sector now. So, Rovio, the Finnish game studio behind Angry Birds, has been acquired for 776 million by Sega, the Japanese game maker responsible for Sonic the Hedgehog. A lot of animals there. So this made news, and it made me super nostalgic, honestly, because Angry Birds was really that first app I
Starting point is 00:11:16 can remember playing on the iPhone. It was from that first generation, Fruit Ninja, Temple Run, just good times. I remember going to the Apple store, picking up the iPhones on display and like immediately opening Angry Birds. I'm seeing from your face. No, I'm just not a gamer, but I can see you having a very precise thumbs that could maybe utilize themselves in that game. Thank you. So I'm not alone in that because Rovio was one of the first game studios to ever amass a billion
Starting point is 00:11:45 downloads. It calls itself the first ever. And by 2014, that $2 billion, it's sitting at over $5 billion now. So this is really a cultural phenomenon. They've actually released two Angry Birds movies. So the first one grossed $347 million worldwide. It was a great video game adaptation that, you know, we're talking about. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:03 No one was talking about it back then. And then there's an Angry Birds 2 movie. That was a flop, though. Yeah, a little less successful. But so Sega is kind of betting on the fact that this is their chance to snag kind of like a Mario-esque, Hello Kitty-esque character IP, and also is their foray into the mobile gaming world. But I also just want to quickly talk about how big the film. the Finland game development community is, it's just an absolute juggernaut.
Starting point is 00:12:31 They have not only Rovio who just sold, but they have Class of Clansmaker Supercell, which did $1.8 billion in revenue last year. It's actually the highest corporate taxpaying company in the entire country. Yeah. It's probably similar to Spotify and Sweden or other, you know, outsized tech companies, but you're saying it's all because of Nokia. Yeah, Nokia back in the day was founded in Finland. and has kind of just created this tech hotbed there. And the government has been really, really kind to game studios in particular, kind of subsidizing them because they are such big taxpayers.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I love that. When one company does really well, and then it has a huge IPO or exit creating a lot of millionaires, and then they each all start their own companies and then create a particular ecosystem around a specific industry in a particular place. Right. That's literally how it works. Silicon Valley.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And then also, there's Silicon Valley for, game development in Finland. There's 260 studios right now, which is just crazy. But we should talk about this is kind of disappointing. How so? For Angry Birds. I mean, Rovio was IPOed in 2017 at a billion dollar valuation, which was that, that was seen as underwhelming. There was this fast company that I was reading in fast company article that I was reading back from 2012. And Rovio's CEO and their execs were talking about being the Disney of the 21st century, building this eco-eco-eastern. system building this universe around these characters and these characters would just be one of many and they they quoted analysts valuing this company at nine billion dollars now it's worth 755 billion so
Starting point is 00:14:07 yeah it doesn't seem like it you know went to the potential that its backers initially thought it did yeah i think they shot a little too big because yeah it is been a relatively successful franchise like over five billion downloads but yeah you're right i did see whatever someone calls themselves the Disney of X. Yeah, red flag. It's usually not going to work out. Okay, before we jump into our next story, we're going to take a quick break. It's time to refresh your yard during spring backyard days at the Home Depot.
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Starting point is 00:15:39 explained to you, a millennial, what the heck the youths are doing these days on the internet. I don't like this intro because you just always remind me of my age. You're a, I actually had you as a young and hip millennial, but then I actually took that part out because I don't know. Yeah, no, you are. Okay, so today's trend originates on TikTok as most of my trends do. So right now, the hot thing is to film a mundane event in your life, like going to the park or going for a walk, in the aesthetic of the film director, Wes Anderson. So all the videos creators are making start off with the same hook.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And it's, I quote, you better not act like you're in a Wes Anderson film during blank, where the blank is some activity. And I also just want to call out that it's a Wes Anderson film because he is a filmmaker. He's an artor, an artist. And I love this trend because honestly, Wes Anderson has such a super recognizable aesthetic. You have the color grading, the iconic color grading. You have the iconic symmetrical shots that you see in all of his movies. And then you also have just this soundtrack that everyone's using too. So it really captures the aesthetic of a Wes Anderson.
Starting point is 00:16:55 movie. And I guess my big takeaway is I just love creators and how creative they are in the sense that they're taking one of the premier artists of like the last generation of filmmaking and making it on their iPhone, making it via the editing apps that we have at our disposal. It really is just like this amazing. If you really take a zoom out and think that these people can make the same kind of aesthetic as this filmmaker, it's an awesome development. Well, maybe my thought initially here was maybe what he's doing is not that difficult. Potentially. People are doing it.
Starting point is 00:17:29 You know, it's just kind of setting up the shot. And the fact that he pioneered this type of aesthetic is impressive. But maybe actually executing it. And I could be completely wrong. And we're going to get a bunch of people yelling at me. But you're saying that, like, the fact that they can do it is amazing. But maybe the fact that they can do it is normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 It's not a high level or not high level, but not a high level of difficulty. technically wise. Yeah. Well, I think you kind of hit the nail on the head is that it's art because he's the one who created it. Yeah, I mean, it's an ingenious thing to create this particular world that you know it's a Wes Anderson movie.
Starting point is 00:18:08 I kind of want to Wes Anderson nize our show. Oh, we should. Do like a little clip. Hop on the trend. Our little social team, if we can get... I'll be Edward Norton. Neil and I just very symmetrical in here, just like standing there looking at it.
Starting point is 00:18:20 So that... Go ahead. No, well, West Anderson has a new movie. coming out about the Southwest and space, which I think is a really cool setting for him to do his stuff in. Yeah. So maybe this is crazy that our minds always go to this, but is this an undercover marketing tactic for Wes Anderson that he's seeding TikTok with his aesthetic?
Starting point is 00:18:41 So then when his movie comes out, people go watch it. It could have been spurred by a trailer. You know, I think the trailer was released two weeks ago, and it kind of got him top of mind again. And then people started doing it. But I would not be surprised. Yeah. If there was some marketing agency behind this, because they always seem to be behind everything.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yeah. Speaking of marketing, fast food. Chicken sandwich wars are out and hamburger wars are back. McDonald's and Burger King have launched new strategies to boost sales of their core beef patties. Let's start with Burger King, which calls its recent $400 million rejuvenation strategy, Reclaim the Flame. It updated its kitchen tech and released new marketing campaigns like the viral, Whopper, Wopper, jingle.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Now, I gave you time to start singing it. Now that that's past, it's over. Now it says it's selling more Woppers than ever before. Meanwhile, McDonald's is focusing on improving the product itself. It says it's making its cheese gooeyer, its buns more pillowy soft, its onions more caramelized, and its Big Mac sauce more plentiful. Senior Director of Culinary Innovation, that's a great job, said that they're adjusting their grill settings for a better sear. I'm obsessed with all this.
Starting point is 00:19:51 love the fact that these really small tweaks on the margin, meltier cheese, can just make this huge difference. That sounds like a huge difference. No, I know, exactly. But if we're really thinking about what's happening, like how much more melty versus non-melty. Have you not changed your grilled settings to get a better sear? It changes the game.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Right. No, I'm, listen, I'm on board with this. And I love whenever you hear about these tech companies trying to, like, innovate and do anything. When you're in the food space, you can innovate as well. Like, there are these. you can use tech as well to innovate, but I do love that this is like kind of a back to the basics. Let's just make a better burger thing. And I love that we're seeing competition happen to.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Burger King went on this big upgrade. So McDonald's like, we got to step our game up now. And I do think it's funny that in the post-Chicken Wars era, it's all about beef babies. We're back on beef. I know. I was looking it up to see whether beef still reigns supreme. I mean, it does still reigns supreme. And it's because that the prices are very competitive. So compared to pork and poultry, beef prices are currently at their most competitive since 2017. So while pork and poultry prices have skyrocketed during the inflation, beef has not increased as much.
Starting point is 00:21:03 So people are really jumping back into that comfort food core thing. And also in terms of like the general vibe around McDonald's in Burger King, I feel like it's cool again to say that, I don't know if it's cool, but it's okay to say that you like it and want to go. There was a time from maybe 2015 to 2019 where, you know, for ethical reasons or health reasons or wherever, you could not. You kind of had to like eat your McDonald. It was the post-super-sized-me era.
Starting point is 00:21:30 Yeah, right. So you couldn't go to McDonald's or you couldn't do it in public without being kind of shamed by your vegan friends. And now I feel like, you know, we walk into work today and everyone's like, oh, I can't wait to get some McDonald's. Right. It sounds good, honestly. Yeah, I'm hungry now, honestly.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I think I might go partake in their new cheesier beef patties. Anything else, Neil? I think that's it. All righty. Okay, let's move on to our final story of the day, which today is Tax Day, which I hope everyone listening new before listening to the show, honestly, because if you didn't, well, go get to filing right now. So in honor of Tax Day, Neil and I did a little digging and came up with some fun tax facts,
Starting point is 00:22:15 some not-so-fund tax facts, to end the show. So Neil, want to take us home? I'll take it away. Well, first of all, just at a high level, why is April 18th tax day? Tell me. It's not. April 15th is tax day. April 15th.
Starting point is 00:22:28 But today is April 18th because the 15th was on a Saturday. And then D.C. had this holiday called Emancipation Day yesterday. So we got delayed for three days. So that's the first stat. And then as of April 7th, how much can you expect to get on your refund is always the biggest question that people have? The average refund in the US to taxpayers was 20. I never know how to say numbers. $2,878.
Starting point is 00:22:54 So that's pretty good, but it is actually down from $3,100 last year because a bunch of the tax credits or tax breaks that were offered through COVID policies like the child tax credit have kind of expired now. So you can expect maybe a little smaller return. And this comes at a time when the IRS has been flushed with. $80 billion in cash from the government to step up enforcement and hire more people so the there's a thread running through tax day is that next year the IRS is about to crack down the L Yellen has instructed IRS agents to not go after anybody who makes less than $400,000 but the government thinks that they're leaving $600 billion a year on the table by not going after rich check tax cheats so that's the whole point of this IRS
Starting point is 00:23:39 revamp go get them go get them IRS all right so let's get into some history of taxes and really interesting how taxes can shape behavior in very, very powerful ways. So Amsterdam's houses are so narrow because of a 16th century law that taxed the width of a property's facade. Oh my gosh. See?
Starting point is 00:23:57 The unintended consequences of taxes are incredible. And then I mentioned this in the newsletter this morning, but England imposed a tax on the number of windows you had as a way of taxing the wealthy, right? It was this progressive tax. The wealthier you have, the wealthy you are, the more windows you have in your house. But all that did was,
Starting point is 00:24:13 cause builders and constructors to not have or everyone to close up the windows they had leaving to poor ventilation, no sunlight, and then everyone got sick and died. It's ridiculous. Final one is, or maybe not the final one, 24 states have this streamlined sales tax, which taxes non-grocery items like candy, but Twix, do you know what it's made out of? Flower. Right. So it's not considered a candy.
Starting point is 00:24:37 Yeah, it's a food, right? Yeah, it's like a grocery product. So it's not tax as candy in 24 states. So it'll appear in the same aisle, people right next to a Hershey's candy bar, but it might be cheaper because it doesn't have an added tax in half of states. Oh, I see why Twix. It's considered a cookie. It has a little, yeah, it has a little cookie. The wafer thingy.
Starting point is 00:24:57 Interesting. Yeah. Good for Twix. You have any tax facts? I got some tax facts. I have a little more modern one, actually, which was during the 2022 filing season. Only 10% of calls received live assistance if you called the IRS. And the average hold time averaged 29 minutes.
Starting point is 00:25:13 So if you ever felt like the IRS is impossible to get in contact with, you're not imagining. Literally 10% of calls reach someone. That's ridiculous. And then my tax fact number two is from Ireland and Denmark and a few other EU nations have begun taxing cattle owners on cow flatulins. So given that cow farts account for approximately 18% of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, those governments started taxing cow owners. In Ireland, it's $18 per cow. while Danish farmers pay $110 per cow in cow tax.
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah, I mean, this all leads to, this is my entrepreneurial and mind going, but all of these taxes lead to business opportunities because if you can create a cow feed or a fertilizer that cows can eat and they don't fart as much, and this is actually happening, then you will make a lot of money. Is it out of sargassum?
Starting point is 00:26:05 I don't know if it's art of sargassum, but it's happening in New Zealand too. If you can get some cow feed that doesn't cause flatulence, you will make a lot of money. Give me some of that cow. I've never had this business mind before, and I started podcasting, and I'm just popping out Gary V ideas. There you go. All right, that is our show for today.
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