Morning Brew Daily - DOJ Sues Live Nation & Car Insurance Hits 50-Year High

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

Episode 330: Neal and Toby discuss the DOJ’s attempt to break up Live Nation & Ticketmaster alleging their monopolistic control over the entertainment industry. Then, the SEC just approved the 2nd-l...argest crypto-based ETF in the country. Plus, auto insurance rates have been jumping up the last 50 years. Then, Moderna as our stock of the week and Lululemon as our dog of the week. Next, cicadas are being featured in menus as tasty(?) delectables…maybe it’s not for everyone. Lastly, shots fired over which state is the pizza capital in the country: New York or Connecticut?  Visit https://www.sage.com/morningbrew for more! 00:00 - Get your MBD Mugs 2:00 - DOJ sues Live Nation 6:20 - SEC approves Ether ETF 10:20 - Auto repairs are getting expensive 14:00 - Moderna is SOW, Lululemon is DOW 19:30 - Cicada snacks?? 22:15 - Pizza wars between CT and NY Get your Morning Brew Daily Mug HERE: https://shop.morningbrew.com/products/morning-brew-daily-mug?utm_medium=youtube&utm_source=mbd&utm_campaign=mug Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:50 Additional terms, conditions, and restrictions supply. It is time to break up Live Nation ticket master. That's not me saying it. That's a direct quote from attorney general Merrick Garland, whose DOJ made the long-awaited decision to sue Live Nation over claims it maintains an illegal monopoly in the live entertainment industry. The ultimate
Starting point is 00:03:09 goal of the lawsuit is to force a breakup of Ticketmaster, the ticketing giant, from Live Nation, the concert promoter, that bought Ticketmaster back in 2010. Many recent antitrust lawsuits have raised eyebrows for maybe being overzealous, but this one, well, the people seem fully behind it. That's of course because Live Nation's industry dominance was on full display two years ago when it botched the rollout of Taylor Swift's Erez tour tickets. An investigation into Live Nation was already underway by then, but the scrutiny certainly ramped up following the massive outcry from the Swifties. But Live Nation is not going to give up Ticketmaster without a fight. The company fired back that the DOJ cave to quote intense political pressure and said that the high ticket
Starting point is 00:03:52 prices fans are experiencing right now are set by artists and are a result. result of surging demand for concerts. It called the suit baseless. Toby, how do you see this case playing out? I see Live Nation as this four-headed monster. You have the ticket sales that comes from Ticketmaster, but then you also have the promotional piece. You have the artist management piece,
Starting point is 00:04:10 and you have the venue ownership piece. And the DOJ is saying that they're using this four-headed monster to set up this very lucrative and anti-competitive flywheel where you capture revenue from concert fans and sponsorship. You use that revenue to lock up artists and these venous. venues into long-term exclusive promotion deals, then you use that kind of powerful library of live content you have to sign venues, and then you start the cycle all over again. So I do think that the DOJ really looked at this whole flywheel and said, this is not fair to
Starting point is 00:04:43 everybody else involved in it. Right. Let's see how this concert promotion arm, which is what Live Nation does really well. And then the ticketing arm, which is when it bought ticketmaster, work in practice. Pick an artist. I was, I really was going to say Taylor Swift, but Usher.
Starting point is 00:05:00 We'll go with Usher. Okay, so I'm Live Nation. I'm promoting Usher's concert. I'm running his tour all over the world. I go to a venue like Red Rocks or something. And I say, hey, we'd love to bring Usher to your venue. I think he would absolutely kill at Red Rocks. Except, you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:17 You have to use Ticketmaster as your ticketing platform. And if you don't, we're not going to bring Usher to the masses here at Red Rocks. So that is how. those, and then, you know, what does Red Rock say? They're like, all right, well, we want Usher, so we have to use Ticketmaster. That is sort of how the DOG sees Live Nation Ticketmaster playing out by using those two arms of its business to work together to squash competition.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Usher at Red Rock would be electric. Those are two kind of disparate types of artists, but that would be fun. Yeah, a major focus of lawsuit too is Live Nations. They called it a competitive d'aunt with a rival venue operator, which is called Oakview Group. some emails that leaked out that was essentially saying, let's not both compete for the same artists at the same venue. Let's just go our separate ways here. It's more lucrative. It would drive up artist fees if we were both competing for Usher at Red Rocks, for instance. So there's a lot of juicy bits to this. And yeah, it really puts Ticketmaster and Live Nation finally in a spotlight that
Starting point is 00:06:16 so many fans have just, so many fans have had that experience with Ticketmaster, like the long queues, the fees, just the super high prices. So I think this is a part of the reason, too, why they want this to be, the Department of Justice wants this to be a jury trial. They want to get people in the building because I think that they know that there's some sort of emotional connection when it comes to an antitrust lawsuit in this arena.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Yeah, and let's talk about Live Nation's response because they are definitely not going to go down without a fight. They say we have nothing to do with setting ticket prices. That is all on the artists, and there's so much demand for concerts right now. So what are we supposed to do? Like prices are going to be sky high.
Starting point is 00:06:55 that is not our problem. And then in terms of who gets the money at the end of a concert, they say that the venues receive most of the money and that their profit margins are actually on the lower end of all S&P 500 companies. So they're going to come with their argument. We'll see how it holds up in court. Right. They're saying it's only 1.4% last year,
Starting point is 00:07:12 which is far too low, they argue, to indicate an actual monopoly. If the past month has been one big old Sunday for crypto supporters, yesterday was a cherry on top. the SEC approved applications from nine different exchanges to list Spot Ether Exchange traded funds. According to CNBC, the SEC's decision does not technically approve the individual funds themselves, so we'll likely have to wait till later in the summer before they actually start trading. But it does give the regulatory pathway forward for the Spot Ether ETFs to be listed on their respective exchanges. So far nine exchanges have applied, including Black Rock Fidelity and Grayscale,
Starting point is 00:07:51 so the big boys of traditional finance world are getting involved. Ethereum, which is the second largest coin by market cap in the world, actually fell a little bit after the announcement, but it has been on a nearly 30% run in the past week as the SEC's decision loomed. It's a little confusing with the delay between approval and actual trading, but still another watershed decision for the crypto industry that is still riding high from the spot Bitcoin ETF approvals earlier this year. Yeah, let's talk about the significance of this.
Starting point is 00:08:19 First of all, it was a huge surprise. I think as recently as a week ago, there was a lot of concern and doubt that the SEC would approve Spot, Ether, ETFs. This is a big wave of potentially retail investors and institutional investors being able to buy Ethereum because right now you have to go to a crypto exchange platform, maybe Coinbase or also Robin Hood offers it. But you have to buy Ethereum directly. And that might provide a lot of hurdles for people who are just on their regular exchanges, brokerage accounts and don't want to, you know, may get a little spooked about buying crypto.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And this just puts it in an ETF. And ETFs are these tracking indexes that track everything from stocks to commodities to anything, any kind of asset class. And it's very easy to buy them. And so they think that this, like what happened with Bitcoin, will open up a new wave of, you know, funding for people to be able to get into this asset class. People are expecting the Ethereum ETFs to be a lot smaller, at least initially, than their Bitcoin counterparts. One, it's just got a smaller overall market cap. But also, if you just compare the amount that gray scale, which is a finance company that has been kind of pushing forward the crypto agenda, their gray scale Ethereum trust currently has around 11 billion
Starting point is 00:09:34 in assets under management, which is much smaller than the Bitcoin Fund was when that conversation was going on. For comparison, the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust had $26 billion in assets under management before it was approved to convert to a spot Bitcoin ETF. One of the reasons why also I think these might not see as big of an uptake as Bitcoin is these funds won't allow staking. Staking is where you can basically loan your Ethereum out to the network for a period of time and you actually earn interest on that. I actually do that right now with my Coinbase. And Ethereum ETFs don't allow this. Staking is a big part of the Ethereum ecosystem.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So there's a few hurdles here that I think will prevent it from becoming quite as big as these Bitcoin. ETFs. Well, we talk about AI as a gold rush. It does seem like these crypto ETFs are something similar for at least retail investors. Larry Fink is the CEO of BlackRock, which is the largest asset manager in the world. And they've gone all in on this Bitcoin ETF. He said that his Bitcoin ETF, I-BIT, is the fastest growing ETF in the history of ETFs. There's so much demand. So it took 57 days for Bitcoin ETFs broadly to cross $50 billion in assets under management. It took gold ETFs more than five years to hit that same threshold. So all these institutional finance companies, these traditional Wall Street firms are looking at Bitcoin ETFs,
Starting point is 00:10:58 Ethereum ETFs as a potential huge moneymaker and they're seeing a ton of demand for it. And it feels like in general, along with a major crypto bill that was passed in the house this week, that the vibes on DC are definitely thawing towards crypto. We're getting some regulatory clarity, which is what the crypto industry has just wanted for, they're like, you can regulate us, but just tell us what you want from us, and it seems like we are making steps in that direction. Not too long ago, getting your car repaired was relatively straightforward. Your bumper got messed up from an overconfident parallel parker. You took it into the shop, and voila, good as new.
Starting point is 00:11:32 But in these high tech times, getting your car fixed is more like taking it to the Apple store. As more vehicles come equipped with fancy driver assist software, cameras, and sensors, car repair has gotten way more expensive with major consequences for insurance and the auto market as a whole. Fixing sensors and cameras now accounts for more than a third of post-crash repair costs in a new vehicle, according to a new study by AAA. One exec at a major auto body repair company said the change they've seen in the last five years is greater than the change in the last five decades. And that's because new cars, sometimes called computers on wheels,
Starting point is 00:12:08 now come with sensors and cameras plastered across the vehicle to enable those safety features like automatic emergency braking and blind spot monitoring. When your car gets crunched by a bad driver, those cameras get damaged and are far more difficult and expensive to repair than bent metal. They just can't be welded back on. Toby, this is another fascinating downstream side effect of all the tech we've been putting in our cars. Right. And the craziest stat from this kind of rise of tech being inserted into cars is that more than one-fifth of vehicles are now declared a ride-off by insurers after examining the claim. So basically they'd rather total these clars than actually go through the process of repairing them
Starting point is 00:12:46 because the math just doesn't math. The repairs cost so much money. And after factoring in insurance that you literally make more money just by totaling the cars. So it is very interesting what these downstream effects are. The rock and the hard place here, though, is you should probably still get these features. You shouldn't be put off by the repair costs because it does make driving a lot safer, like these rearview cameras, the automatic lane detection. And these pieces of software that cost so much to fix also make driving a lot safer.
Starting point is 00:13:15 So consumers are kind of left between a rock and a hard place, but you should still probably opt for the safer vehicle overall. I don't think you have a choice at this point. If you buy a new car, I mean, it's going to come with all of these gadgets. And I know when I go home and drive my parents' cars, like you back out of the garage and there's like 17,000 things beeping you all at once. And I'm like, shut it off. I really don't need all this beeping. But it truly is insane cost to repair. I'm sure a lot of people have been shocked when they've looked at the bill and they've taken it into the shop.
Starting point is 00:13:45 I mean, if you just want to replace a side mirror with a camera on a new F-150 pickup truck, that'll cost you $1,600, which is kind of insane for a mirror. But the thing is that it also comes with a camera. And replacing a camera is not just like slapping another camera off. You have on, you have to calibrate it as well. You have to log some road miles so it can get used to where it's looking. And so all this tech comes at a huge price tag. Another thing to consider here is that auto body repair technicians are extremely in demand right now because you're right. They're not just bending metal back into place anymore.
Starting point is 00:14:19 They are very, very highly trained individuals who have to be able to calibrate these sensors. So that is another downstream cost that's passed on to insurers that are eventually passed on to consumers as well. And it's why we've been having this conversation around car insurance and how it's been leading to sky high inflation. We talked about the inflation numbers that came out earlier this month, and car insurance was one of the biggest drivers of inflation overall. So that is probably why you're seeing your insurance premiums go up. Yeah, they're up 23% from a year ago, which was the largest annual increase since 1979.
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Starting point is 00:16:25 the pre-show windsurfing competition with ease. So you're up first. What's our stock of the week? My stock of the week is the biotech moderna. And when shares of a vaccine maker shoot up 24% in a single week, it's usually not good news for the rest of us. And so, it is this time. Moderna's shares got a boost after the U.S. government said it was in discussions with the company as well as Pfizer over a potential avian flu vaccine program. Yep, bird flu or H5N1. The news of readying a possible bird flu vaccine came as a second human case of bird flu infection was found in the U.S. a worker at a dairy farm in Michigan. Remember, bird flu has been spreading in cattle across the country with the count of dairy farms infected up to 51. Officials
Starting point is 00:17:10 are concerned about this mammal to mammal spread, but still say the public health risk to humans is very low. Still, the fact that the government is talking to Moderna and Pfizer about prepping a vaccine shows they're taking the threat seriously. The U.S. does have an existing stockpile of bird flu vaccines, but it's not nearly enough to cover the population should something like a pandemic happen. Toby, Moderna, Pfizer, and other vaccine makers were all on the rise this week. Their investors love to see it. The rest of us, not so much. Yeah, it's such an interesting thing here because analysts covering the stock is the bull case for Medina as if another widespread pandemic happens. So a lot of them are saying, like, we'd probably expect them to retrace their
Starting point is 00:17:50 gains unless something like a wide-scale pandemic happens. So it's a very interesting stock to kind of cover. This is actively happening, though, that Moderna is going ahead and starting the process of converting some of those raw materials that the U.S. has stockpiled into doses of avian influenza of vaccine, even if it doesn't become pandemic level. Like, if it becomes more widespread, then they will have these ready. So it's just a very interesting stock to cover in general. Yeah, there's a very fascinating debate also happening within the public health community because it's like, all right, well, we know that avian flu is spreading.
Starting point is 00:18:28 It could come to humans. It could not. Most likely not. But shouldn't we be prepared? And shouldn't we ready hundreds of millions of doses of vaccines right now just to get ahead of it? but it's not that simple of an equation because these vaccine makers have only so many finite number of assembly lines, and they have to produce things like the seasonal flu vaccine.
Starting point is 00:18:46 And you kind of have to produce either the seasonal flu vaccine or other vaccines that can save people's lives or this other one for the avian flu that you don't even know if you need. So there is a very much of a question and its uncertainty whether these companies like Moderna and Pfizer should switch out all of their production and start making the avian flu vaccine. It's not as simple as saying, yes, you should just to be prepared. Let's shift over to the dog of the week, and my dog of the week is Lulu Lemon. I'm wearing their pants right now, but apparently it wasn't enough to keep them out of the
Starting point is 00:19:16 dog column. The stock is down 12% in the past week after some reshuffling at the executive level. Chief product officer, son Cho, is out, but the company doesn't plan on backfilling the role. Instead, they plan to pull a money ball and try to recreate Cho in aggregate with a new team made up of execs from the merchandising and brand branches. It's the kind of shakeup that you don't really want to see from a company that does rely on innovative product design to maintain its foothold in the ultra-competitive athleisure space. There is just a general malaise around Lulu after it offered weak guidance last quarter amidst shifting consumer trends and increase competition. How about this, that, Neil? Lulu is the worst performing stock in the entire S&P 500 so far this
Starting point is 00:20:01 year. Worse than Boeing, worse than Walgreens, worse than everyone. Pretty crazy. Pretty crazy. I mean, it came out of the pandemic, riding high. And I thought that along with all these other COVID stocks, it would fall back to earth because people were dressing up again and weren't, you know, weren't wearing ath leisure just to bum around the house because they're going back to the office. But it does appear like there is true competition here from people like from companies like Allo and Vori. And analysts have walked around Lou Lemon stores and they're really not impressed with what they've seen from the selection. And they're like, oh, my God, there's all these colors available and all these different, you have way too much inventory here. It's a sign that
Starting point is 00:20:40 people, that your products are not resonating with customers as much as they used to. And I'm not, you know, an apparel expert or anything. So I don't have any prescriptions for what they should be doing. But it does appear like Lulu Lemon is in a bit of a slump right now. Yeah, and apparently Cho was a baller to. Lulu Lemon's revenue grew by 20% compounded annually during her tenure. Obviously, can't be attributed just to one person, but a lot of analysts were like, listen, she played an integral part in making Lulu the juggernaut it's been over the past seven-plus years. But you're right. The business has just matured at this point. It's an established brand. The hyper-growth days are over. The growth opportunities now lay abroad, and that's always a little
Starting point is 00:21:20 bit of an unknown. So, yeah, it's just a lot of things combined to make Lulu just not as exciting to investors, but hopefully you can bounce back because I do like their pants. I will see. I see a lot more aloe stuff going around these days than Lulu. Moving on, trillions of cicadas are now emerging across the United States. And you know what? I'll go ahead and say it. Those cicadas are looking like a snack. I mean that literally. Adventurous eaters and even some restaurants are using the opportunity to widen their culinary horizons
Starting point is 00:21:50 and eat the bugs, which are high in protein and apparently taste kind of good. A brewery and suburban Chicago made headlines this week by announcing a cicada infused malort. And anyone who's been forced to drink that stuff knows that in adding insect flavor couldn't possibly make it any worse. Elsewhere, people are hosting potlucks where you must bring a dish with a cicada component and a restaurant in New Orleans called Bug Apetit is serving dishes like cicada salad and roasted cicadas. Toby, are you joining this cicada feast? After all, we eat wet bugs like lobster and shrimp. Why not eat dry bugs? I am so conflicted on this because I love the idea of a crispy maybe fried temperate, that crispy exoscelotin sounds very good, but once I start
Starting point is 00:22:34 thinking about kind of the juicier innards, it really is off-putting to me. I do love this from the creative director of the brewery that's making this Malort shot. He said basically, everyone already hates Malort, so it's like, let's just try to make it even worse. So clearly this is more of a stunt in that regard. But yeah, I have seen other things that cicadas have a flavor reminiscent of succulent lobster. I don't know. They are a relative. Yeah. I mean, they are both arthropods, so it makes sense. I'm very conflicted on this. You have eaten crickets, though. Grasshopper, yeah. I ate grasshopper in Mexico City. I am very adventurous. I'll eat anything. That did not taste good. That definitely warded me off to the
Starting point is 00:23:15 insect thing because it just tasted like grass and soil, so earthy, and I really couldn't stomach more than 10 of them. It was it was toasted. It was toasted with a chili sauce and a little lime. But it's the taste that got you, not the texture? It was the texture. It was both. Okay. It was bad. I think cicadas probably might be a little bit better. And there's a lot of people out there that say that they taste quite good and a little more seafoody probably than grasshoppers do. So I'd definitely be down to try it. And I mean, around the world, people eat bugs. Two billion people eat bugs regularly. And there's a booming startup ecosystem that has received $1.3 billion so far about turning insects into protein that people can eat for the sustainability, for the climate
Starting point is 00:23:55 for the climate help. So, you know, I'm all in on it. I just don't know what, I just maybe need, like, you know, somebody good to prepare for me. It definitely is, comes down to how you season it. I mean, you can put, like, I don't know, cool, rants, Dorito seasoning on anything and it would taste good. So it really comes down to the seasoning of it all. We got some good old-fashioned pizza pie drama to take us into Memorial Day weekend. Connecticut lawmakers are drawing a line in the sauce and officially declared New Haven to be the quote, pizza capital of the U.S., which has another city and another state particularly peeved, New Yorkers immediately fired back to defend their honor.
Starting point is 00:24:34 New York City doesn't have to declare itself the pizza capital of the United States because people across the country already know it to be true. One city hall rep told the New York Post, and when one pizza shop owner in Brooklyn was called by the New York Times to get his thoughts on Connecticut's proclamation, he thought he was being pranked called. But New Haven is not messing around. Representative Rosa DeLoro of Connecticut read a statement into the congressional record
Starting point is 00:24:57 that declared New Haven to have the best pizza in the country and it's not even close, she said. Neil, it's a moray. More like Connecticut is a moron. New York for life. Oh, my God. Yes, you told me that the ending of this intro would be pretty wild and it definitely lived up to that.
Starting point is 00:25:16 This was a show of force, okay? They brought 100 pizza makers on a chartered flight down to D.C. and New Haven stake their claim. And to me, the question isn't whether New Haven has the best pizza. It does. It's which of the big three in New Haven have the best pizza. There's Sally's, there's Frank Peppies, and there's modern. They've all been around since the 1920s or the 1930s, and they make this delicious coal-fired brick-oven pizza with this juicy dough and this just like great crust going on, a little burnt and charred in some places.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And so I've personally only had one, which is modern. and it really was the best pizza I've ever had. Simple, delicious, and just the vibe when you go in, you're like, this is where they make pizza. They've been doing this for a century, and they have perfected the art. I just think that you got, you're not playing the numbers game here. There's only 75 pizza making establishments in New Haven in New York. There's 1,600 across the five boroughs. And then also just a variety you get in New York just lapse what you get in New Haven.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I mean, you can get the Neapolitan slice. get the square slice, like the Detroit-style crispy crust one. And I just think that I don't want to be locked into this one very specific type of pizza. That's why I'm on Team New York here. Okay, that makes sense. You would think that. But I just want, you know, there's a very specific type of pizza, and they do it the best in the world. Therefore, they are the best pizza capital in the United States.
Starting point is 00:26:43 And New York can't handle just not being number two in anything. You know, like they just can't handle it. Here's my final thoughts on this. I do think that pizza is more about the memories. the people that you share it with. I mean, I have fond memories of eating Pizza Hut growing up, and that's not top to your pizza, but I will always have a special spot in my heart for it. So I think that pizza is a canvas on which you paint the tapestry of life.
Starting point is 00:27:05 So all pizza can be good pizza as long as you're sharing it with good people. Wow, I think we have to wrap it up there. Thanks so much for listening and have a relaxing Memorial Day weekend. One piece of advice. Get yourself to a body of water if you can. It's legitimately good for you. Research published in the Journal of Environmental, psychology shows that just viewing water for one minutes and 40 seconds,
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