Morning Brew Daily - Get to Know Good Work's Dan Toomey

Episode Date: July 3, 2023

Episode 94: Neal and Toby chat with the face of Morning Brew's social media, Dan Toomey, on this special Holiday edition of Morning Brew Daily. Dan recently launched his own franchise called 'Good Work' after having been with Morning Brew for the past few years. Dan discusses how how he arrived at MB, how he manages his mental health as a creator, his future aspirations and even what his go-to Dunkin Donuts order is. Watch Good Work Here: https://www.youtube.com/@GoodWorkMB Follow Good Work Here: https://www.instagram.com/goodworkmb/ Follow Dan Here: https://www.instagram.com/dhtoomey/ Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here: https://link.chtbl.com/MBD Watch Morning Brew Daily Here: https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Good morning, Brew Daily show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. So we are off today because it is Monday before the 4th of July, but we have another special episode in store for you. If you have followed Morning Brew on social media or YouTube, you will be really excited for our guest. And if not, you should still be very excited. Today, we are getting to know Dan Toomey. Dan makes some of the most hilarious videos we've ever seen, skewering work culture and the business world.

He's been with the brew since 2020 and recently launched his own franchise. called Good Work. We're going to talk to Dan about his comedy career, the creator economy, and his go-to-dunkin order. Today is Monday, July 3rd. Let's ride. All right, gentlemen, to start off this interview, I actually want to take us back to August 18th of 2020, where I got a DM from Alex Lieberman on Slack, the co-founder of Morning Brew, saying, I want to get your eyes on something. Tell me what you think about this. That something was a self-tape of young Dan Toomey auditioning for a role at Morning Brew. Sure, I was eight. It was very inappropriate. He was eight years old. It was this awesome video,

but I actually have my response that I replied to Alex with that I'm going to read here, slightly edited for length. Wow, that was a wild ride. I legit laughed out loud, would have to tone it down a bit, but I think he's pretty polished. He clearly put a lot of time into it, so I give him props for that. And here's the kicker. Overall, seven out of 10, because some jokes didn't really land. All right, big guy. Listen, I'm not sure if I almost tanked your career before it began or if I launched it. Seven out of ten?

Are you kidding? That was a good video. I gave you props, though. I gave you a lot of props. What do you mean? What did you mean by tone it down? I didn't make any, like, offensive jokes. I think at that time, I thought that Morning Brew is a much more polished brand than it was.

You ran the Twitter. That was the least polished thing. I want Dan's review of Toby. I know. I just couldn't believe that I had... It was 7.6.5 now. All this to say that it's kind of crazy that we're sitting here now.

That's where, I guess, it all started. That was the first time I laid eyes on you. And now we're sitting on these couches together. You impressed Toby a lot. But we have a bunch of questions to ask you. I know you have pages. I have pages. All right, here we go.

This is the best we're going to. ever get to know each other. Absolutely. Dude's never asked this many questions to each other. I know, we're about to get real deep. So our first question, Dan, I want to imagine we're at a party, okay? And I don't know you, but we start with a small talk, you know, and it's classic New York City.

We eventually land on the question. So what do you do for work? How do you typically respond to that question? I get this party. We have mics and headphones. Oh, yeah. I'm sitting at a couch. What, uh, I say I'm a comedian.

That's why I say now. When I first started this job, I had no idea. Because I didn't know. Like, it wasn't even, like, mostly comedic stuff either. It was just a lot of, um, uh, just making videos. And so I said, like, oh, I make videos. I would always do, I work for this company called Morning Brew. And it was like one.

Sometimes that hits, though. You have to admit. So there's some, well, when people know it. Yeah. But like, you're, I'm still at this phase where like, I'll be like, it's this like, company called, like, it seems like a burden. Your voice, your inflection of your voice goes up. my face, I'm just like, you can leave if you want this conversation. You don't have to be here

for this. But then I said, I would like make videos for them. Yeah. Um, and what was funny was that when I first started this job, I was living at my parents' place in back in Massachusetts. And so most of those questions would come from like their friends. Right. And they'd be like, whoa, you make videos. What is, what is that mean? What is the video? I make like TikToks for them. And then their heads would explode. And then they go, what's a TikTok? Yeah. You're like, what's a TikTok? And then they just kept, then they just like kept me under the stairs like Harry Let's jump to the before times a little bit. What were you doing before Morning Brew?

And did you have kind of career goals at that point? And have they changed that all since you've joined Morning Brew? This isn't even like a conversation podcast. It's very question, question, question. This is awesome. Before Morning Brew, I studied journalism, the journalism major at the University of Southern California. California. And yeah, I worked for a year in politics doing political journalism in Washington, D.C., before that.

So graduated class of 2020, was super unemployed for a little bit, and then got a job over in D.C. Did that for about nine months, all the while, like, talking to you guys and maybe figuring something out, and then eventually came over here. Was the goal comedy, or do you think the goal, was that always a long term? Did you want to be like a Brian Williams? No. Well, Brian Williams pre-standle. My favorite thing about Brian Williams said, apparently people would send him ties and he would wear them. That's cool.

I love that. But I want to go to when you were in D.C. when you were, who were you working for again? I was working for ABC News. ABC News. It was kind of an eventful time, right? And there was a particular January day in 2021 where you had quite an eventful situation. mind walking us through that? I mean, maybe if you want to hear about it.

I do. No, it was January 6th. Yeah, and so I worked the, all right, yeah, I worked the overnight shift at ABC News. So I worked from midnight to eight every day. Well, we would rotate, but at that particular time, I was on from midnight to eight. And we had seen protests leading up to that before. Um, so when people started to come out, we heard that there was going to be a rally and we were like, oh, you know, that's just like all these other rallies that have happened. Um, we like keep eyes on it. And I was the only one in the newsroom that night. Um, because that's like during COVID, it was like pretty much only young people could be in the office like with each other. Um, because people were still worried. And so I was the only one in the office at like 3.30 in the morning. And we would see. rallyers start to like trickle in and I'd be like oh she keep eyes on this and then like more people

started to come in and then and then I left it was 8 a.m. and people like there were some people who were still on like the sidewalks and pouring into the city and coming out of the train station but like that was the end of my shift and so I think it was like all right I'm going to go home now. I think you guys got this one and then I went home and I fell asleep and then I woke up a phone call at 2 p.m. which was like 2 a.m. for me. It was my brother and he was just like, they took the Capitol. And I was like, what does that mean?

And then I, and then, my favorite part of this whole thing was, you start watching it on, on the news. And like, you know, it's just insane. I was like, oh, I got to get to work tonight because, like, I still have, like, I have to do this. And I'm not going to, like, walk there because I live pretty far away from our offices,

which were near the Capitol building. And so I called an Uber. and in two seconds I got an Uber right into the middle of a scene and I was like can you drive me in? And he was like, yeah man, I don't see why not. So we were just like weaving in between protesters and then yeah and then eventually I just like slept in a hotel room

that they put me in for like a day and then worked the rest of it. But I also met a lot of my colleagues for the first time that day. Everybody came in because it was like the biggest news story aside from the election and it was like all hands on deck. I'd be meeting people on the day of the January 6th fries. I'd be like, I'm Dan. I'm really trying to work my hardest here. So, yeah.

What a story. Like, what a moment in history to be entering your first job in and, like, working the night. And then a month later, I was like, yeah, I'm going to go join this company morning. I'm like TikTok. Yeah. Absolutely. All right. Well, let's move on to kind of the creative process.

Do you mind walking us through your creative process? Like, how do you come up with your ideas for your? your videos and then how do you go from ID in Dan's head to like a finished product? Yeah, the, I don't know, a lot of it is just like when I, when I joined, again, there wasn't really like a whole model for what we do now, I guess, at least at morning where I don't know what it was like at other companies, but even when I graduated being like a quote unquote creator, that wasn't like a like a job, you know. and then when I joined, all I knew was like late night.

Like that's what I really looked up to. And so I tried to model my day after what I knew a late night writer's schedule to be, or what I assumed their schedule was like. I've never worked there before. But I was like, I'm going to get up in the morning, read the news. By like 9 a.m., I'm going to have like four pitches for videos. And then I'll send them to our editor and she'll be like, three of these are garbage. and one of these might work out.

And then I would write that one. We would film it. Or I would write it. I would send her the script, get her approval on it, film it, edit it, and then get it out by like 2 p.m. And we did that Monday through Friday every day for like probably like eight months, I would say. And you're filming this all yourself. Yeah. And editing it all yourself.

Yeah. In your apartment, too, for the most part. In your large apartment above carbone. Toby had seen that. that to we had seen that apartment your bed is in your living room which is also your kitchen he pitied me so much you ever seen that meme of like Hillary clinton walking in like an apartment and being horrified as to how small it is that was toby entering my West village apartment he was beautiful toby was my Hillary Clinton he was like you live like this do you have my vote so how do you come up with your ideas like what what is a good idea and what is not a good idea how do you filter that through your brain I literally I never know what actually no that's a lie. Sometimes, like, sometimes you will know, you're like, oh, this is, this is going to be great. But those are, like, I would say more rare than I think what a lot of people expect, because

most people don't see the fact that, you know, especially through those first eight months, probably 99.5% of what I pitched got rejected. Or was a video that bombed. And at the time, it feels like super consequential. And you're like, oh, this is so emotionally damaging that, like, what I tried to do, the first comment I ever got on a video that I put, posted for Morning Brew. It was on Twitter. We posted it. And this was like our first like foray into comedy, my first time being like a on-screen

presence for Morning Brew. The comment was got maybe I think 12 likes. And the only comment was a guy who posted a jiff of an overweight baseball player swinging at a t-ball stand, missing and tripping. And his comment was swinging a miss. I was like, what a start. Actually, you know what? Covering January 6 overnight

sounds a lot better than this. But that's a good segue, because I wanted to know about how you balance sort of like your mental health when you're laughing. But it's an serious question. And when your career, compared to so many others,

is so tied to approval on the internet. And you must, like, whenever I have a tweet that gets more than like 15 likes, all I can do is refresh Twitter or Instagram or whatever, and it messes with my whole day. Yeah. And that's kind of your job is to garner views and likes and retweets and things like that. So have you sort of developed a mechanism for shutting it off or kind of separating yourself from that?

I've tried to, definitely in the past. I would say, like, dude, I'm probably as addicted to my phone as, like, a smoker is to cigarettes now. Like, straight up, like, I will be in public and I'll just, like, start checking it. And I'm like, why am I on Instagram? Like, I have no idea why I'm on this. right now. I used to like, whenever I would post something, I would try to like walk away for like an hour and do something else.

But then I quickly learned that that actually hurts like the performance of the video is that you, if people comment on you want to like reply to it. So the casino of social media is literally designed for you to stay on the air immediately and be addicted to it. Obviously I think therapy helps. Like it's very important to like have somebody to talk to. And so balancing.

mental health, that was very tough when so much of like what you do is is geared to metrics. Like, think back to late night, it's like you had one metric to go off of, which was views. And that was it. For like a certain demographic and that was it. And now it's like you post a video

and you are given more data than ever before on, and like I was talking to a few comics last night who were just like, did you know if you film at this frame rate, then it's actually more likely to go viral because like the eye is more keen to this. And I was like, what?

Like, comedians are like, forced to just look at all this data. And it's, so it's not, it's not healthy when you analyze it that much, um, which goes to show that like, the mental health balance. It's really just a matter of like, unfortunately, doing it enough to the point where you get like a little bit, yeah, like a little bit numb to the feeling. And you're just like, okay, like, I truly is. Yeah, you, once the views get bigger, it paradoxically becomes like easier. to not check them as much. Because, yeah, when you're in, like,

you've had videos that go extremely viral. And when you're in the hundreds of thousands, millions of territory, like, each individual one is not as much of a dopamine hits. So, you're right. But, I mean, and, you know, like, Twitter is the same thing. It's just all just, like, dopamine straight to the veins.

But it's not, like, dopamine that, like, feels good, like, hanging out with people. It's a very solitary form. Because you're just in your room, just getting affirmation from a screen that's the size of, like, a matchbox. It's not conducive to healthy living. Being a creator's great, guys.

You're thinking to doing it. You should definitely do it. It's great. Do you ever look back on the early videos from Morning Brew and say, like, oh, my gosh, I've evolved so much as a creator. I assume you do, but like take us through. I'd really try not to rewatch. You don't.

You don't go back? I rewatch, like, videos that I made, like, probably like a week ago. But early early stuff, no, I really don't want to do that. They were funny. That sounds terrible. I know, but why we're really funny? I just can't. Like, I can't do it.

It's like, oh, no. But you do review your own work. I see you edit it. You must hear your own voice more than anybody else because you are your own editor. Hell yeah, brother. So you are just listening to yourself like six hours a day while you're editing. And I can't even listen to my own podcast once for fear of just freaking out. But I think that's different than watching you.

from like a year ago. Like when you're editing, you're trying to like really perfect something so you can like ultimately publish it and you're seeing the rough draft. But it's, I mean, like maybe I'll go back and watch like

one of like the really early hits that we've had. But again, like there have been a lot of bombs, man. And which again is just part of a process. But I think revisiting those would just be like, ooh, like I hope that I would be better now. And, you know,

I don't want to like, I don't know I'm going to be inspired, but I don't really know what the point would be. You know. Yeah. So you said you were a creator, and I kind of want to like zero in on that word a little bit because a lot has been written. You win still for all the people just listening.

But it is, do you say that word with pride? Do you wish you could be something else? And sort of where do you see yourself in this broader creator economy that has, you know, come up recently. And just to define it, I guess, it's that, you know, social media and various other tools have sort of empowered individuals to, create their own brands online and we don't know what else to call them so we call them creators because they create things yeah yeah i think that i go back and forth on the term a ton um what i will say

first and foremost having worked in more traditional media throughout college and then in my first year out of college i think that the creator economy the the blessing of it is that it opens doors for more people than would be traditionally allowed in in you know the media that we're used to because people can build their own platforms. And previously, like, you would have to know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy who was probably like paid off by your parents. So, but what's great about this is that more people than ever are able to just kind of like come up on their own just by being active in publishing their own material.

And I really do believe in how important it is to make your own things. I think that's one of the most important skills anybody in media can develop today is just knowing how to like publish and create your own content or at least be a part of the creation process. So that I think is the blessing of it. The curse of the whole like creator title is that like, what does that even mean? You know, like creator is such a vague term. And I feel like that's kind of on purpose.

And where I can sometimes feel like it's exploitive for people who are hired in that position is that they turn around and they're like, I'm being asked to make a podcast, make a video, write my scripts, edit these videos and then also have like a line of merch that I, need to design it. It's like not everybody, you shouldn't be, that's so much for one person. So I think that it's, again, it's, it's an amazing opportunity that more people than ever before have had right now. But it also requires you when you step into that role to define your parameters a bit and be like, look, this is what I want to do. That's a really important thing too, is like knowing what you want to do ultimately rather than what other people will ask you to do as part of your job. Because if you're a creator, they're going to ask you to do like, you know,

as many tasks as possible because you're like, well, you're a creator, you create, isn't that? Which is just like unfair to be hired for, you know? I mean, I guess following up on that, you exist in kind of this weird, liminal space of you are your own personal brand, like you have Dan Toomey,

you have a large following on Instagram, but then you're also under the Morning Brew umbrella. Yeah. What is it kind of like being, existing as a creator underneath an organization versus just being like a pure creator on your own? Um, at morning brew, it is abusive. It is fully abusive. They creeping horribly. And I just saw the recording go red. First time I keep a muzzle on when I'm not on camera. It's terrible. This is the first time I've talked to people in months. I will keep going on this bit for 20 minutes. You go over time. What I have loved about working here was that when I started, I had like no following at all. And it was like shocking to people that I was like making videos. They're like, oh, you're doing. doing this, huh? And so, uh, but I was able to like be bad for a while and also practice at it,

um, which was like props to, you know, Toby thinking I was like terrible in my eyes. But props to some people having a little more faith in me than Toby did. Um, and I've really enjoyed that. Like, I'm a very risk-averse person. So I was like, I, I enjoy working at a company or I'm able to like practice consistently. Um, and like give me time to get better. Uh, which, you know, I really do think it probably took like a year, year, and a half until I was fully comfortable in the job of being like, okay, I know how to make a video now. I know what stories we should cover. I know when there's an opportunity to make like a really good video about something. So I've enjoyed the security of that and just kind of like the support

system. Right. You know. Kind of like a trust fall. Like when you fall, there is kind of a very comfortable bed of feathers. Yes. Yeah, exactly. Which is Toby's hair. Yeah. I just fall on Toby every day. Whenever I have a video that bombs Toby just, he cradles me like an infant. He has a little Bjorn that he carries me around in. And I just come hither. I'm curious how social media. You're also a comedian. You're doing a lot of stand-up shows around the city, right?

How has social media changed that industry? Like, why are you doing stand-up shows for 30 people when you could be taking that time to make a video? I've done it for far less people. 30, well, why are you doing it for 30 people when you could essentially make a video and reach millions of people at the same time? Like what value do you find in that? And what kind of conversations are you having with other comedians about how TikTok and Instagram have completely disrupted the industry? Yeah, dude, man, I did a show last night at a startup. And wait, like, a startup hired you? They, yeah, is like a corporate show. Yeah. I get there. Their offices are in Williamsburg. It's like a pen. It's like it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like it's like, it's like, you know it's like, it's like, you're like, it's like, it's like, it's like, you know, it's like. It's like, it's like. It's like, it's like, yeah. It's like. It's like, it's like. It's like. It's like, it's like, it's like, it's It's like Kendall Roy's basement is what this office looked like. And we get up and we get there. And this is the most startup thing ever. Like they have they have like video game controllers in the office.

They have more beanbags than like lawyers, right? And you get there. And the only stage that they had was just like this little tiny like thing. And then they go, oh yeah, we don't have a mic for you guys. Just like what? They just gave me three topa chikos. And then they were just like, get on stage. So I got on stage with no mic just like delivering a TED talk to

this crowd of like 22 people, none of them wanted to be there at all. They, like, it was like a poor, I'm sorry, this was not your question at all, but it was just, I was like, oh man, it's, we gotta go up from here. I think it does speak, that is kind of answering the question a little bit. Like, you, when you're making a video,

you have all your props, you can edit it to make yourself look the way you want to look versus stand up. Sometimes all you got is three Topochica, so it's a much more, more raw. But it chisels you for the future. Sometimes you have a lot less than that. 3WJG is nice. I've paid money to do stand-up.

Here's the thing. I think, like, there are, if I had to write, like, a book about comedy now, it would be called Everybody's in and There Are No Rules, because social media has introduced more people to the idea that they could be comedians than ever before. And that has led to a lot of people when you think, oh, okay, I want to be a comedian, what should I go do? Your mind just goes to stand up. It doesn't immediately go to, like, making good.

videos because traditionally that's not your idea of what comedy is for a lot of people they I'm going to move to New York and I'm going to be a stand-up comedian. It is a completely different art form than making videos. What I love about making videos is like like you mentioned earlier, I edit all of my things and there are like different jokes you can hide in the editing. And like that's a completely different art form than stand-up where it's just you on stage and you're telling jokes. But then you can also mix up stand-up like Bo Burnham. Like he would sing songs and he would have all of these, it would be like a performance too. And like I have a buddy, Jack Reichert, who, uh, he has like a whole, like musical instrument

thing that he does at the end. So it's like a lot more fluid, I think. Um, and you can use a lot of like skills that you have in video editing to inform stand up and to like make it a little more interesting. Right. If you want. Or there are some people who are just killer standup comedians. That's all they got to do is just stand up on stage.

Going back to what you said about like how is social media impacted it. You see a lot of trends where people, will just upload like crowdwork and that will help them go viral which other people have opinions of I really I'm just like hey man if that's what helps you then like go for it again there are no rules to any of this stuff

but there are more people than ever doing stand-up because they're like oh I went viral for this impression on Instagram I gotta go be a stand-up comedian now which is like it's just so different and like props to you if you're going to try it you know but it's a fascinating time it's definitely

way different than it was. Right. When I was doing it 20 years ago, very different. Back when we were over at Zappies, listening to Joey Steaks, give it to the crowd. I love that. All right. I think final question for you, Tumi, before we wrap up with a couple of a rapid fire, but final big question. This was so fun. It's already over.

We're getting there. We still got more left. Okay. What is kind of the Holy Grail for you? Like what do you think you're building towards? Is it, I don't know, a spot on SNL? Is it you want to go to Hollywood? Is it a lead writer on a comedy show?

Like, do you have a North Star? Are you just trying to, you're just totally in a way? This is a job interview right now. Yeah, right? Careful what you say. I'm trying to leave Morning Bird, dude. I'm trying to get out of this ball and shame. I don't know.

What's interesting is that when I graduated college, I had no idea that this is the job that I would be working in. And this wasn't even like a goal of my, I thought that I wasn't going to work in comedy when I graduated. Every year I would apply for a late-night internship, like literally consistently freshman to senior year, and I got rejected every single year. So like when I graduated, I kind of just gave up and I was like, well, I guess I'm not going to do it. And then this just kind of ended up happening. So I try to like have a vague idea of what my five-year goal is, but never be too married to it because if I stuck to my five-year goal when I was a senior, I would not be here.

Right. I think we can all say that, by the way, too. Like, no one, the fact that we're all sitting here is a miracle. I have zero one week goals. Yeah, I don't even know I'm going to do tomorrow, man. But yeah, continue. Yeah, I mean, like, in terms of what I want to do in the future, I always just try to see it as a scaled up version of what I'm doing right now.

So I do stand up, I write scripts, and I make videos. And if I could just do that on like a larger scale, maybe with a bit more resources, but, you know, to like work on a show. to host live shows myself. The Dan Humi show. I do want to do... Before we go to the Rapid Fire, I do want to do a quick not-so-suttle plug

for your new franchise that you're building, which is called Good Work. Good work, yes. Do you want to tell the people what that is and sort of what the concept behind it is and what they can expect? This is like hot ones. If you make it to the end of the interview,

you can put your plug. You can plug it. Good work is the only fake business news outlet that you need to know. We cover everything from meetings to LinkedIn, into why every celebrity has a product now. I wear a trench coat sometimes in the videos. It's produced by me and Henry Stockwell,

who's a hilarious writer and a very good friend of mine. And you can find us on YouTube and Instagram and Twitter and TikTok is Good Work MB. But what's the point? You mentioned some of the examples, but the point of it is kind of like to skewer work and business culture. Sure.

You're like, I didn't really write it. I just wrote you a mission. Yeah. No, that's great. man, that's awesome. Okay. It has been pretty... I think we're trying to figure that out.

It's been very successful and I think it kind of talks about a lot of the unspoken things like why is LinkedIn so weird? It's kind of, you know, we all kind of beat around the bush and we don't really talk about it, but you kind of nailed it and I think what makes these videos so successful is that you actually, in between all of the jokes, you offer a very insightful commentary and ask a question and then answer it. My favorite thing about them is that like we're, we've gotten amazing. guests. And I don't know how these people have said yes to the show, but like we've had three New York

Times reporters. We had Derek Thompson on the show. We had Kyle Cook from Bravo's Summerhouse on the show. And I'm like, it's amazing that you guys are willing to do this. Just wait, man. It's not like we're like Eric Andre or we're like going to like bully people. One time you might even get Toby me. I don't know. One time. Right now, you guys are giving me like a six out of ten for this performance. $7.5. During these next questions, you could bump it up to a ceiling of I can't wait to see how many, like, what do you guys measure your podcast by downloads? Downloads, baby. How many downloads this one gets compared to it?

I think at least tens to maybe 20. It depends on whether you promote it or not. Family is going to gather around the radio, the radio on July 4th and be like, we got to listen to this one. Yeah, it'll be like, you know, it would be like Winston Churchill in 1942. Like, come on everybody. Some dad's yelling at his kids. All right. It's important.

Rapid Fire question. Kiss, Mary, Kill. Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. Uh, wait, Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. Kiss, Mary, Kill. Yes. Got it. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay. KK.M. Um, Kiss Mary, Kiel. Instagram, TikTok, YouTube. And this is a rapid fire question. Where I have to answer.

And you're out of time. Sorry. Yeah. We have to answer in a rapid fashion. I'm watching the downloads. Um, I marry YouTube, kiss, Instagram, kill, TikTok. Wow. I thought TikTok.

gives you the greatest chance to go viral, though. Not anymore, man. Not anymore. And I'm just in it for the virality. Sorry, babe. There it is. Plus Dan thinks it's a national security threat. I do, yeah.

All right, next rapid fire question. Who is the comedian that you most admire? I hate this question. I really do. Okay, then who is the comedian you would want to open for? Like, if I name like some random Brooklyn comedian, you got, I don't know. All right, well, okay, then they may one. really difficult.

Anyone that everyone knows, but that you also admire. Who I would want to open for. I was listening to Nate Bargettsey this morning, so Nate Bargettze.

Nate Bargettze. It would be a great one. There you go. Danny Hates us now. You're up next, Neil. What's our next? That's just such a stressful question.

I just like, there's too many people. Yeah. All right. If you could give your younger self one piece of advice, what would it be? Sleep is really important.

Sleep. You're talking to some people. Yeah, I was going to say. I'm actually, that was just advice for you to. Sleep is very important. Yeah,

that's my biggest one, sleep. All right. That's actually solid. Yeah. All right. Actually, so what did you think I was going to do?

No, I mean, nothing good happens after 2 a.m. Yeah, I thought it was going to be something, I don't know. I'm going to take that to heart there. All right.

We know your big mask guy. Hit us with your go-to Dunkin order. Medium ice black. That's it. Yep. Keep it simple. Yeah. And if they can't,

dude, one time I walked in, and I said medium ice, because usually that's what you just say, like medium ice, and it was at the one down the street, right? And I just hit your lamp, I'm sorry. And the one was so confused.

She was like, really? You sure? And I was like, yeah, just medium ice. And then she looks at me, turns around, fills up a cup of ice. And it turns back around, like, she was like gifting it to me. She was, this all you want?

And I was like, of course. Of course not. No, that's not what? So I didn't know that that was a message. Massachusetts thing. Also, a Massachusetts Duncan is the only place I've ever been to where I was at the drive-thru. And I asked for a medium-ice and I think I got like a donut or something and they went, all right, why? Why? I was like, why you want that? And I was like, oh, because I'm hungry. It's early in the morning. He goes, all right, good enough. I was like, what happened if I gave you a bad answer? Would you just say like, oh, sorry, man, you got to turn around. You got to work on that pitch again. Asking for a donut in a Massachusetts, Duncan is like asking comedian who is your, you're, you? favorite comedian. So we're going to not note those down. Yeah. I would have been like, well, I guess I don't now.

Yeah, I guess. And then just back out. I guess I'm not worthy. Absolutely. All right. Final question. What is Future Dan doing on July 4th? Because this is coming out on July 3rd, actually. Future, what's Future Dan? Oh, oh. So we're recording this in June. Oh, but you mean like this year, July 4th?

Yeah. What are your plans? Are you coming to my plan? Are you coming to my plan? I won't be alive at 2090. I'll be so dead. The Google pod. Yeah, I'll be, yeah, I'm hanging out with you. I'm hanging out with you guys. Hell yeah. Recording a pod. Record another episode of this.

This is my first episode on The Daily Show. And coincidentally, it's also your last. It's also my last. Dan, how should we rate Dan's performance? I'm going to bump you up to a seven. Let it be known to the people listening that I brought donuts, but I cannot show them for legal reasons. So we're going to...

You'll have to guess the brand. You'll have to guess what brand of donut I brought, but I cannot bring them. because we were not given approval. I know. All right. That is our show, Dan, you are welcome every time. You're such a talented comedian or creator or whatever you want to be called.

Thank you. Happy July 4th, everyone. I hope you have a great few days off here at the beginning of the week. And we'll see you when we see you. All. Pay off your home. Travel for Life. Drive a Ferrari.

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