Morning Brew Daily - Instagram’s Map Feature Sparks Backlash & Sweetgreen’s Future Wilts

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

Episode 645: Neal and Toby chat about the Trump administration preparing an IPO of mortgage giants Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae that could raise $30B. Then, Instagram releases a new feature that can sho...w the location of your friends…and people aren’t happy about it. Also, Sweetgreen continues to struggle to bring customers in and is trying to switch its focus away from greens to proteins. Meanwhile, AOL is finally discontinuing its service which begs the question…how did it last this long? And Bed Bath & Beyond is mounting a comeback with its first store in Nashville since its bankruptcy.  00:00 - Join MBD Password 3:40 - Fannie and Freddie go public? 8:50 - IG Maps causes a stir 11:30 - Sweetgreen sours 17:00 - Bed Bath & Beyond comeback 20:00 - What a run, AOL 23:00 - Week Ahead LinkedIn will even give you a $100 credit on your next campaign so you can try it yourself. Check out LinkedIn.com/mbd for more. Submit your MBD Password answer here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Yzrl1BJY2FAFwXBYtb0CEp8XQB2Y6mLdHkbq9Kb2Sz8/viewform?edit_requested=true Subscribe to Morning Brew Daily for more of the news you need to start your day. Share the show with a friend, and leave us a review on your favorite podcast app. Listen to Morning Brew Daily Here:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.swap.fm/l/mbd-note⁠⁠⁠  Watch Morning Brew Daily Here:⁠ ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@MorningBrewDailyShow⁠ Check out Per My Last Email! Spotify link: https://open.spotify.com/show/0nLoZjMIpr7AhG61xsZlWs?si=83e893071dd44696  YT link: https://youtube.com/@permylastemailshow?si=aMa5d8vjKlFdeZlb  Show page: https://www.permylastemailshow.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:26 Terms and conditions apply. Good morning, Bird Daily Show. I'm Neil Fryman. And I'm Toby Howell. Today, Instagram Maps has entered the running for the most hated app update of the year. Then Trump wants to bring the mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac back to the public markets. It's Monday, August 11th. Let's ride.
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Starting point is 00:04:20 On Friday, the Wall Street Journal published a report saying that the Trump administration is making plans to potentially sell stock in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, valuing the two companies at roughly $500 billion combined. They sound like they could be. your neighbors down the block, but Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac stand for Federal National Mortgage Association and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation. Despite both having mortgage in their name, neither Fannie nor Freddie actually lend money directly to home buyers. Instead, they buy mortgages from banks, bundled them into investments, and promise to cover losses if too many homeowners can't pay, which helps keep mortgage rates low. But it also caused them to suffer massive financial
Starting point is 00:05:01 losses when the housing market crass, prompting the government to step in and keep them from going bankrupt. And there they've remained under government control, albeit with a small float of publicly tradable shares for the last 17 years, despite numerous stops start attempts to end the conservatorship. Neil, this could be another one of those failed attempts, but Trump, in a slate of wealthy investors, including Bill Ackman, have been pushing for this idea for a long time now. Are Fannie and Freddie finally going to make this partial stock market exit that's been teased for so long? Think of the biggest, most complex financial transaction you can imagine. And then this is 10 times more complex and bigger than that.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It would be the biggest IPO of all time. They're looking to raise $30 billion. That would top Saudi Aramco's $29.4 billion listing in Saudi Arabia in 2019. That's currently the number one biggest IPO on record. And then the second one for the U.S. market, which is the top one in the U.S. market, is Alibaba's $25 billion IPO back in 2014. So this company could, these combined companies could be worth $500 billion raising $30 billion. They're aiming to have this happen by the end of the year. And they're convening the right people a few weeks ago. The White House gathered all the CEOs of
Starting point is 00:06:19 the largest six banks in the country, Morgan Stanley, J.P. Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc., because this IPO is going to be so big that you need all of these banks on board to help out. Investment banks certainly want this because it is such a complex deal that it would be a massive boon for Wall Street banks because remember, they're the ones who get the fees for advising on their deals. And just the size of this listing alone would mean that a lot of different bankers would take part. So they're kind of licking their chops at this. Also, a lot of the big hedge fund investors want this as well because Bill Ackman has been kind of betting for years that this exact thing would happen. And it has been slowly accruing share. in the public part of these companies. Again, this is a very confusing thing because even though it's in a government conservatorship, some shares are traded over the counter. They're not listed on your normal brokerage app
Starting point is 00:07:09 that you could go in and buy this morning. But a lot of more sophisticated investors have been saying, like, hey, we think this is coming down the pipeline. Let's start accruing a stake. And since Trump has elected, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's shares have been inching upward. They've more than doubled in value. So after this latest report from the Wall Street Journal,
Starting point is 00:07:27 they were up 20%. So again, you have a lot of very powerful people from Wall Street banks to sophisticated hedge fund managers who have a vested interest in this, which is why a lot of people are saying this time around, we could see them return to the public markets. But there are critics of IPOing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. As you mentioned at the top, they have been credited with keeping mortgage rates low for Americans for decades. And I know mortgage rates don't seem that low right now. They're around 7%. But compared to the rest of world, the United States, Americans do pay a lower mortgage rate and they have this 30-year fixed rate mortgage, which is kind of unprecedented around the world. And Fannie Mae and
Starting point is 00:08:07 Freddie Mac do get a lot of the credit because they create this incredibly liquid market for mortgage-backed securities. And they take so much risk off the table because there's this implicit government guarantee that they will get bailed out should many borrowers default on their loans. So the reason that you're not paying even more in mortgage rates, is because of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And the concern is that if it goes away from this government control through an IPO, then mortgage rates will spike. And that's why people are saying, well, hold your horses here.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Think of the broader implications for the housing market. Yeah, and there is no deal, no guarantee a deal will come together. Remember, IPOs are complex things. They take a long time to prepare, especially as one as complicated and complex as Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. so Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. So some bankers are still skeptical whether this timeline is likely. But this probably is the best attempt to privatize these firms that we've seen over the last 17 years. Instagram has spent the past few days putting out fires after a new location sharing feature was panned by users.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Last week, Instagram quietly rolled out a new map view that allows you to passively share your location with friends, and it'll show the locations you recently tagged in posts or stories. If that sounds familiar, it's because Snap has a similar feature with SnapMap and Apple has Find My Friends. Instagram called the function a new lightweight way to connect and continued its infamous run of copying features pioneered by Snapchat. But the launch was a complete mess. Many Instagram users believe their locations would be immediately broadcast to the world without them consenting to it, leading to concerns about stalking and harassment for high-profile figures, children, and women. And it even caught the eye of lawmakers.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Two senators, Marsha Blackburn and Richard Blumenthal, wrote to Meta urging it to get rid of the Maps feature. This backlash led Instagram CEO Adam Messeri to take out his mop and clean things up. On Thursday, he wrote that your location will only be shared if you decide to share it. And if you do, it can only be shared with a limited group of people if you choose by default, location sharing is off. Still, the most popular reply to Messeri's clarification was, literally no one asked for this, which pretty much sums up how people feel about Instagram's latest update.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I can see why they did it, though, because it is very much a part of Gen Z culture to share your location. A lot of us have been raised on GPS where your parents have your location through Find My Friends or something like that. SnapMap map obviously brought it to social media many years ago. So there is a desire to see what your friends are doing in real time. I think Instagram did correctly judge that. What I don't think that they realize is that, one, people have trust issues when it comes to Instagram's the biggest social media app in the world. They have trust issues with meta in general. So it's just a different vibe they bring.
Starting point is 00:10:57 And then also the fact that it felt more public than something as intimate as they find my friends where you have to explicitly give your friend permission to track your location. Just small little calibration errors led to a pretty big backlash to what should have been a popular feature rollout. So if you are wondering what this means for you and whether you have location sharing on, you can go to the DMs page in Instagram, tap the new map option. If it's the first time you're accessing this feature, you will get a pop-up I just did this morning. It will notify you that no one can see your location until you share it with them, and you can change your settings at any time. Then you can go into your settings and choose which people you want to share it with,
Starting point is 00:11:38 whether it's friends or close friends or certain users or no one. If you're wondering whether your location is being broadcast, by default, it is not. But you can go into the DM's page and then drill down to the map and turn it off or turn it on. You can do whatever you want, but that's kind of how you can use it. I still don't even have the feature for some reason. I've been updated my app and now I kind of wish I was on it. So I'm just left stocking by my friends with the rest of everyone else. All right, let's move on.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Despite selling salads for nearly $20, somehow Sweet Green has never turned a profit. Wall Street has been okay with that since it was growing, but Sweet Green's earnings just before the weekend changed the narrative, sending the stock into a tailspin. Same store sales failed nearly 8% in the second quarter, pushing operating losses to over $26 million. It caused a 23% wipeout in its share price on Friday, which means the stock is now down 70% since the beginning of the year. CEO, Jonathan Neiman, thinks part of the issue is the chain strayed too far away from its core salad offerings. That's a not-so-settled jab at the recently introduced French fries side called Ripple Fries, which are getting the acts even though customers love them because they were too hard to make. Talking about the Ripple Fries, Neiman said,
Starting point is 00:12:51 we realized that it became a complexifier for us, which is a word you should definitely remember next time you're playing Scrabble. But Neiman also says a turnaround plan is in place that includes giving customers bigger scoops of proteins and leading more heavily into seasonal menu items. So, Neil, Ripple fries are out for being too complex and too good. Bigger scoops of chicken are in. That's the plan to put sweet green back in the green. Well, it needs to because this company is really flailing right now,
Starting point is 00:13:18 and the CEO said there were a couple of different factors at play. One is macro trends. He said it's pretty obvious that the consumer is not in a great place overall, and spending on restaurants is way down. It was the worst first six months of a year for restaurants in the past decade. They had better growth during COVID than right now. So clearly, consumers are pulling back. back. And he also pointed the finger at himself and the management team in saying that our stores are
Starting point is 00:13:44 not delivering right now. They went out across all of Sweet Green's locations and found that only one third are performing at or above standards. Two thirds represent a meaningful opportunity for improvement. $15 salads is just not a great value proposition right now when people are looking for cheaper and discounted options. I do just want to pour one out for these ripple fries, though, because we talked about it when they debuted because a lot of people at Sweet Green were very excited for this. They were these air-fried, healthier versions of French fries. They weren't as oily.
Starting point is 00:14:15 I actually did go and try them, and they were quite good. And they kind of shot themselves in the foot here because so many people liked them, and they were very popular, but they were not very easy to make. So it's just that classic, do we sacrifice efficiency for this one menu item? Probably not. They gave them the axe, even though they did have a good, strong quarter. So just kind of a microcosm of everything that's going wrong with Sweet Green right now, that even their successful menu items are somehow,
Starting point is 00:14:40 biting them in the butt. And then the one final thing that I do think that they messed up on was getting rid of their seasonal menus. Consumers love seasonal menus. We've seen this in many different industries from Starbucks with the pumpkin spice latte. It's one of their biggest sales drivers. Sweet Green had a similar thing when they'd bring out a bowl that kind of match your season that you're in. They got away from that cadence and said, big mistake. Customers clearly liked that. We're going to go back to more seasonal menu items. So I do think a lot of these were kind of self-inflicted wounds and that they do seem to have a better grasp
Starting point is 00:15:11 on what consumers want going forward. Who's going to say no to bigger scrups of chicken? That's definitely something that people want. But yeah, in a rough spot right now because not a lot of people are going to these overpriced salads in urban markets. That's why I think the biggest thing they need to do is offer value and lower the price if they can.
Starting point is 00:15:27 They're going to do these $13 menu bull drops. And that to me is the key because last year during summer, it was a complete reversal. So we talked about fast casual chains doing so well, Chipotle, Kava, and Sweet Green, they were booming and fast food chains like McDonald's were doing poorly. McDonald's over the past year has gone to great lengths to broadcast to consumers that there is value here at McDonald's.
Starting point is 00:15:52 They rolled out value menus and other things that gave people more bang for their buck. Sweet Green did the opposite, rolling out steak and going in the more premium direction. And now these companies are failing. Chipotle had a really bad quarter as well. So I think you just got to go back to value. That's what people want right now. Now let's head to our winners of the weekend. Own it all.
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Starting point is 00:17:07 musical chairs, so I get to go first. And my winner is anyone with a bed, bath, and beyond coupon stash because those are redeemable once again. On Friday, a bed, bath, and beyond store opened in Nashville the first new location since the company filed for bankruptcy two years ago
Starting point is 00:17:23 and closed its 300 stores around the country. The new owners of Bed Bath and Beyond, the brand house collective, are firing up the hype machine by saying they'll accept the 20% coupons that became synonymous with the chain, and also offering new ones at the door. But can coupons resurrect bed, bath, and beyond from the retail graveyard?
Starting point is 00:17:41 Back in 2023, the company filed for bankruptcy after being late to the e-commerce game and struggling with higher costs. The business changed hands a few times through a series of complex deals and is attempting a small-scale comeback in Tennessee. The new owners say they'll have six stores planned for the Nashville market, and if that goes well, maybe they'll expand further. If you end up checking out the new store, you'll notice at least one thing that's different from the previous edition, the name.
Starting point is 00:18:05 It's called bed, bath, and beyond home, probably to clarify that the beyond just means the rest of the home. Toby, you think this comeback has legs. They're just going to keep adding modifiers to their name. Bed, bath, and beyond home, and then also lawn, and then also maybe your bathroom and this and that is just a funny, you know, modifier. I think they're going to run out of signage space. But I do want to dive into this confusing journey to coming back because you said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was the most complex deal that we could think of. but listen to what Bed Bath and Beyond 2.0 has had to gone through. So Overstock.com, this ecom website, bought the brand's intellectual property in 2023 after
Starting point is 00:18:44 its bankruptcy. It rebranded that to Beyond Inc. and launched an online-only version of Bedbath and Beyond. But then eventually Beyond Inc took an ownership stake in this new brand Kirklands, which is a home decor chain with around 300 stores. Then it gave Kirkland exclusive license to develop and create Bed Bath & Beyond home stores. And then just for fun, Kirkland later rebranded to the brand house collectives and plans to convert some of its Kirkland home stores into Bed Bath, Beyond stores. It is literally so complex, so many things to, you know, revive this iconic brand, albeit with an extra word attached to the end. So all that to say, still think it's a tough time in home decor. The housing market isn't great. You need people to be buying houses to then go
Starting point is 00:19:26 buy stuff to put in those houses. So I think they have a long road ahead of them. It's a good lesson that when you're a retailer and you file for bankruptcy, it's never the end of the story, whether it's Circuit City or Radio Shack or Toys R.S. I mean, Toys R Us filed for bankruptcy a few years ago. And now they've relaunched in the Mall of America in Minnesota and inside the American Dream Mall in New Jersey. So they're also attempting a small scale comeback. We'll see what happens to Clare's, which we didn't talk about, but filed for bankruptcy for the second time last week, that tween store that, you know, millennials loved. So yes, probably not the end of the story for Bedbath and Beyond. It's making the comeback.
Starting point is 00:20:04 in the Nashville area. If you end up going, let us know how the vibes are. My winner of the weekend is AOL dial-up internet because it lasted a lot longer than you probably thought it did. The service that brought millions of people online at the dawn on the internet
Starting point is 00:20:17 is actually still around and kicking, but AOL revealed on Friday it would wind down its services by the end of September. The end of an era was delivered in a small article on its help portal that some eagled-odd users caught, hardly a fitting send-off
Starting point is 00:20:31 for something that brought so many people online. Still, it comes as a shock that AOL in the year 2025 was still providing dial-up internet service to users. Some of those are in rural areas with limited access to broadband, while some are just tech nostalgics who still love the outdated digital serenade that dial-up was so famous for. Still, it's worth eulogizing this part of internet lore. Back in the early 90s, the internet wasn't a thing. Connecting to it was hard. Into that void stepped AOL, who at its peak had over 18 million subscribers in 1999.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But eventually the technology was supplanted by other internet service connection methods, and subscribers have since dwindled to the low thousands. Still, that's a winner in my book because despite losing its relevance decades ago, it still managed to last 34 years. So many memories of dialing up to the internet on your telephone network. Did you do it? Yeah, of course. I'm old.
Starting point is 00:21:26 I never. In the 90s, yeah, I absolutely had AOL, and that's how you connected to the internet. What you didn't know at that point was it was really, slow dial-up speeds don't reach over 56 kilobytes per second, which means they're too slow for streaming video or audio playing any sort of game that was developed recently. Now we measure internet speeds in megabits or gigabits. So we've come a long way. Broadband has brought us to a new place. Absolutely poor one out for something that connected so many people to the internet. I didn't know that the dial-up tone was functional. Oh, I guess I did know it was functional,
Starting point is 00:22:02 but that process of beeps and words and whatever noises you're hearing, that's establishing connection over a phone line. Those tones are actually specific tones and sounds that modulate and demodulate data into an audio signal. So maybe a lot of people know this. Maybe I am just too young for that. But those things that you're hearing is not just, you know, some internet nostalgia thing. It is just a very, it's a way to transmit data over a telephone phone line.
Starting point is 00:22:28 So, yeah, never had the pleasure of actually. using AOL dial-up internet. I don't know if I would call it a pleasure. I mean, it's a nostalgic pleasure, but I do have an AOL email address. That was my first email address. I just looked at that. I have 70,000 emails in that somehow
Starting point is 00:22:45 because it's just been accruing marketing emails from whatever I signed up for when I was a kid. So maybe those will become a nostalgic thing going forward as well because, yeah, it's all about Gmail these days. It's Monday. So here are the major events you need to know about to stay ahead in the week ahead. Today, Intel CEO Lip But Tan will visit the White House to talk with the guy who wants him fired.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Last week, President Trump called on Tan to step down from the position, calling him highly conflicted due to previous investments in Chinese companies. Trump's move was extremely unusual. The government doesn't typically involve itself with management decisions at private companies, but fits with a pattern of the president pushing companies to make major strategy changes, whether it's Coke using real sugar or telling Walmart to eat the tariffs. Tan is expected to explain his background to Trump and vouch for Intel's role in American shipmaking a key national security issue. I mean, we just had Tim Cook come to the White House, pledge to invest in America, give Trump
Starting point is 00:23:40 a gold statue. And Apple stock is up 12% in the last week. So it looks like the tech CEO pilgrimage to the White House can be fruitful if you play it right. We'll see if Tan comes armed with any statues and if he can explain his business ties and, you know, lay out a plan for how Intel could work with Washington. On Friday, another meeting will take place that could not have been an email. President Trump will hold a rare face-to-face chat with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska. It comes after Putin proposed a ceasefire in Ukraine, but only if Ukraine were to relinquish large swaths of territory in the eastern part of the country.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenskyy has rejected giving up any land for a ceasefire, and European leaders are concerned that these Trump-Pooten talks would sideline Ukraine. But Vice President J.D. Vand said yesterday that they were working on, including. including Zelensky in the talks in Alaska. So seems like there are a lot of moving pieces before this meeting takes place. The biggest event for the economy will come tomorrow with the release of the monthly inflation report for July. With prices for some items ticking up in June due to tariffs, Wall Street will be watching whether those price hikes have accelerated.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Plus, everyone's curious to see Trump's reaction since this is the first big economic data release since he fired the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics after the previous jobs report. Also, earning season is winding down, but we should get a few interesting reports from theater chain AMC and recent IPOs Corweave and Circle. Man, it feels like every government data drops us has taken on heightened importance these days. If, you know, this inflation reading comes in hot, then it makes the Fed's dilemma even worse because those horrible, no-good, lousy labor market numbers dropping has the market
Starting point is 00:25:18 all but guaranteeing the fact that there will be a rate cut come September, but hot inflation numbers could complicate that. And then finally, in sports, the signs of summer coming to an end are everywhere. The always fun Little League World Series begins on Wednesday. The same day, Madden 26 is released to get us amped for the upcoming football season. Then on Friday, the new English Premier League campaign kicks off. My team, Liverpool, cruised to the trophy last season, and they're looking even more dangerous this year.
Starting point is 00:25:45 I don't think so. Salomon missing two penalties in preseason. They look vulnerable immediately after they turn over possession, just lost at Crystal Palace and the community. Shield. So don't know what you're watching, but if you want to tune in to see the Premier League champs play, Manchester United take on Arsenal on Sunday at 1130 a.m. All right. That is all the time we have. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us and have a wonderful start to the week. If you have any thoughts or feedback on today's show, send a note to
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